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so can you explain something to me John
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or Casey but both of you are sports
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people compared to me
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okay why are the highest end video games
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called triple AAA games but in baseball
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the triple-a teams are kind of like the
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it's just the same it's the same word
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using two different contexts don't try
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that's a terrible answer that that's not
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even an answer that's the answer it's
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like it's like what you know like the
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why we park on the driveway and drive in
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the park with whatever like its it yes
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it's the same word and it's spelled the
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same way you've got 3 a's what why is it
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the the people that come when you have a
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flat tire where is that Triple A is just
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the same set of letters but it's not the
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don't get confused about it at work this
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week i am learning to use scala the
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programming language and Sokka which is
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entirely different outfit too is it's
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callous Colorado instrument or you're
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the ones get on learning it
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I've everyone seems to be saying scholar
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I'm sure to a New Yorker it's kayla i
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was assumed it was scalar like scaling
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you know what i mean i i've literally
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never heard anybody ever mention it you
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know in person and totally and it seems
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like definitely one of the first things
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that you should learn about languages
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it's pronounced bozell John anyway so
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the point is I'm learning scholars gala
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gala and it's weird it's super weird and
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I i presume that neither of you two
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really touched it but what the little
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bit I've seen makes me makes it very
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obvious that not only is it is it not
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only does it look weird but it seems
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like only weird people use it it's one
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of those like esoteric languages like
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erlang that like all the really out
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there programmers use but most people
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yeah it's not as is i don't know
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esoteric is is my understanding of say
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like Haskell is yeah that's a good
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example but you know I've seen some go
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and although it looks peculiar i feel
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like i can get the general gist of
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what's happening if i look in an
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arbitrary go program I I feel like even
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before i could read objective-c and
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you'll see them see through the matrix
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I could at least understand vaguely what
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was happening in objective-c and before
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I started to really understand Swift it
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was very easy to at least
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generally understand what was happening
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in a swift app this crap is out of
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control though and I think you know how
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I'm how anyone who's ever written any
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c++ ever in their lives is broken
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well that and has this like tremendous
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utter fear of operator overloading my
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admittedly ignorant impression of
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scholarly is that it's operator
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overloading and functional programming
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gone crazy in so like what was that we
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were doing it we were doing something
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that was not scholarship itself I think
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is something related to a co which is
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like a I don't know it's a weirdo like
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networking framework that's a terrible
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summary but we'll just go with it and
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talking about this is weird
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it's so weird well they by overloading
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operators in doing weirdo functions and
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the way that you can like well in
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curried functions and the way that you
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can like leave out crap and that's valid
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source of scholars syntax it's as though
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you have an entirely different language
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like visually it looks like an entirely
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different language even though it's all
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completely valid scholar because they
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went nuts with operator overloading and
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weirdo like shortcuts and whatnot
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it is the most peculiar thing I've ever
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seen and beyond that using IntelliJ as
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an IDE is a visual assault on my
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eyeballs like it's a decent ide and it
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does a lot of things and it's very
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powerful but my goodness it's hideous
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it's even worse than the shouting
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version of visual studio that's it file
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edit view you know when it was when all
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the menus were all caps for some reason
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but I don't know about this one was yes
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yes it is like in dots and 2012 no no
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this is the 2010-2012 something like
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that what I forget exactly what it was
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but you know the typical windows menu
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you know the same menu that you have the
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mac but it sits on each window in
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Windows anyways it was all caps for like
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one or two generations of visual studio
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for no good reason so it wasn't file and
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it viewers file edit view it was like a
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wrestler shouting at you constantly
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Wow anyway so in summary scholars
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SuperDuper weird and I don't know what
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to make of it and i don't think i think
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it and I and I can't tell if that's just
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because I'm ignorant
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and i'm still learning it and I can't
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see the matrix if you will or see
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through the matrix i guess but man is it
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weird and you know in summary i guess
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this is what being a programmer feels
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like the whole if you had a proper
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grammar you would have been introduced
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all the concepts they're encountering in
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the language that you choose to call
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scala they wouldn't be able to you just
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like oh my god sent to expedite in this
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language the advantage of hanging out in
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a multi-paradigm programming languages
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languages go don't seem that weird and
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everyone's got their own syntax is the
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same reason that you felt comfortable
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with like go and Swift is because like
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I've seen structures and classes and
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methods and types and inheritance
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partying all night before so this is
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just a different syntax for doing that
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type of stuff and I've seen it you know
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exceptions and case statements and you
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know maybe options for a little new but
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you know one new concept is not too hard
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for you to swallow but if Scarlett has a
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whole bunch of stuff that you haven't
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seen before you get the weird syntax
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also weird syntax for a thing you
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haven't even done in a different syntax
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before that you can like map it to you
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know well that's the thing is that you
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know as I've said many times in the past
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I think swift is kind of everyone can
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look at swift and see their their
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preferred programming language you like
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I feel like you as a programmer John
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could look at swift and say oh yeah they
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totally stole that from us and Marco is
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someone who does whatever you do with
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PHP you can look at that and say oh yeah
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that's how this one should have worked
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in PHP but doesn't and as a c-sharp
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development and marketing objective c
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developer you know you can see that
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stuff and Swift whereas in Scotland
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install I can see some of the same stuff
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like I can see when you when you do very
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arm I guess what kind of rudimentary is
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the word I'm looking for but like basic
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scholar i can see oh yes with took that
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from scholar like optionals weigh
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options work is a great example like
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that taken from scott like all these let
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you get to the family tree it's like for
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example is almost nothing in PHP that
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wasn't you no it didn't come from pearl
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shell or something else before like so
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there's a big family tree of things just
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depends on like this is the first
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language you encounter this stuff
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forever you will think oh that's from
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scholar but really it's totally not it's
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something realistic or whatever and yeah
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yeah no that's totally fair but you see
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what I'm driving at right is that basic
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scholar that we're we're things make
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sense and it's like written for news
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that i can understand right but then you
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start getting this crazy crap we're so
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as an example acha which is again this
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like I'm gonna I'm gonna summarize it is
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like a networking like client-server
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framework that's completely unfair but
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III can't come up with a better way to
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summarize it so the way you you send a
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message in using acha with in Scala is
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you do like either the client or the
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server so the line of code would read
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for example server friend print because
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servers a function ! message so ! has
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been presumably operator overloaded to
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send a message that you define on the
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right-hand side of line to the
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destination to find on the left-hand
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side line i know this is really hard to
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verbally basket is like source code on
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podcast is kind of amazing this is this
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is this is not going well for me but but
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but you don't like it's just imagine
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it's a function call an exclamation
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point and then a variable like what what
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the hell is happening here and and I
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again I think a lot of this is probably
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my problem in and if this makes in the
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show we're gonna get all the scale of
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people yelling at me about how I just
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don't know what I'm talking about which
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is accurate but as it as someone who's
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new to it but it's been writing code
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professionally for over a decade in you
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know casually for 20 years now
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man is it weird and different and I
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think a lot of this it comes down to
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almost every programming language I've
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done looks or I think traces itself back
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to see and yes on the surface colleges
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to but I feel like there's the the
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family tree diverged and took like like
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hunger right-ho it is scala where most
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of the other stuff even Swift kind of
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just march down down the line the way it
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was supposed to do if you will with
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scare quotes i know it's trippy I mean I
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think a lot of what you're seeing two is
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just like languages have have certain
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cultures and communities around them
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based on their attributes and and
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there's a community so for instance like
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you don't see a lot of cleverness in PHP
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code that you find online you're lucky
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if it works and the reason why is
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because PHP is B is used by people
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pragmatically for the most part these
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are people who are at all skill levels
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you know bottom to top and there's a lot
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of people on the bottom of course
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because it's an easy language to learn
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if you're new be something a lot of that
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and then even people who are good using
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it or their 10 they tend to pick PHP
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because it is pragmatic and it helps
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them get some kind of job done and as
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you get the languages that become more
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dynamic and have all sorts of weird
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little syntax sugar that's that's
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possible with them
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I mean pearls the king of this but also
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you know you obviously see this in a
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language Ruby was a big one for a while
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and of course then once you go
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functional languages then all bets are
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off functional people are like living on
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the planet and so as you get like more
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more esoteric and with more clever
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not only are they will do the language
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make a lot of like crazy complex
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unreadable but cool things possible but
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also generally more generally way more
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skilled programmers are the ones who
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choose to use those languages or people
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who are language nerds who really who
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really love the weird things you can do
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with these different languages that you
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that you can't easily or at all do
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another language of the right so you
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will see people using an obscure
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language like scaling or or Haskell in a
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way that like they're almost showing off
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what they can do because it's fun
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because you know whatever that whatever
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crazy thing they're doing they enjoy
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doing that because they can't do that in
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objective-c or PHP yeah I know it's
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weird it's not getting none of this is
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really bad it's just peculiar and and I
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think what's frustrating to me is as low
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as an experienced developer by no means
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an expert industry as an experienced
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developer it's it's very frustrating for
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me because I feel like I'm not catching
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on as quickly as I'd like and I feel
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like Scala is not as approachable to
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someone that happens to have my
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background as other languages have been
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it doesn't make scholar worse or bad or
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wrong but it's just I i have not even
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objective-c I feel like it was easier
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for me to pick up then this and it's
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just it's weird man super weird in any
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case John tell me what's going on with
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your buds earpods excuse me is that my
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new iphone 7 to talk about last week i
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got a new complaint talk about the fat
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lightning connector last time
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that's still annoys me but if you're
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going to get over that but one thing
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that I was accustomed to with the old
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headphone jack iphone 6 when all my ipod
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touches before that my ipod shuffles
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before that was that if it was playing
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audio and I put the earbuds in my ears
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and then i plugged in the headphone the
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audio would change to coming out of the
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headphones and the other thing I took
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for granted is if I had my headphones
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plugged in and audio was playing and hit
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the little remote thing he would stop
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the audio from playing or started
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depending on whether we stop you're
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starting to sound like basic functions
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both of them have failed multiple times
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today playing audio I'm i think that and
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you know I haven't quite gotten to the
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point where I'm plug in the headphones
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it playing out playing the speaker for
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two seconds i plug in the headphones
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just keeps playing through speakers
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unplug the headphones plugged my god
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just keeps playing through speakers like
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whatever man you know
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pause the thing plugging in hit play now
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place through the headphones playing
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through the headphones you know I'm
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doing dishes my wife said something to
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me I want to stop the thing so i can
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hear hit the remote it doesn't stop
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playing it smart again
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nope not stopping playing the road again
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nope not stopping playing this is no
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you can have that you got its got to do
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the basics when i plug in the headphones
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the audio should start coming with a
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black headphones like and I'm I'm
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assuming this is a software thing so
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there's hope of being fixed like I don't
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think it's I have bad hardware anything
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because it fixes itself i wait a few
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seconds or plug the thing back in a few
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times or you know hit play pause and the
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thing or whatever i like it i give it a
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big thumbs down i hope this goes away in
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a point update to iOS it won't good i
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haven't had this week they had this
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experience but to be honest i've only
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used the Lightning your pods a handful
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of times and they have worked outside of
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that original software issue that Scott
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inconsistent as it always has been and
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the lightning adapter sucks it functions
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but I'm angry every time it functions
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especially as my phone discharges itself
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and the stupid dongle to keep track of
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now and it really is kind of a cheap
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far we get with with the lack of air
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pods being existing yet the whole story
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like all right well we moved the
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headphone jack and now we have well the
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same mediocrity we had before with some
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slightly accurate so I thought it was
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pretty obvious and I did listen back to
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what we were saying and I thought it was
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fairly obvious that for me anyway what I
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copy on my computer I don't want to copy
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on my phone I don't want to copy my ipad
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i want to copy on my computer and it
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would be neat if that copy didn't have
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to fall off the back of a truck that
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does not exist so for all of you that
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said you idiots you could have
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downloaded Grand Tour well yes that's
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true but it doesn't help Casey however
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being able to download it and keep it in
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app might have had might have helped
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John because John I believe you were
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saying that you didn't want to buffer
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and you wanted to make sure it was full
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res etc etc so in principle that would
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have helped you i was looking for it
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mostly to say like I demand 1080
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download as much as you have to so that
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i can start watching it you know i mean
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i guess i suppose i can sit down with
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the whole thing first but that's you
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know it's going to value when you sit
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down to watch a thing especially if it's
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getting that the crappy version i don't
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want to say oh it's going to be
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downloaded in 15 minutes to come back in
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15 minutes I wanted to buffer up as much
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as it needs to buffer to buffer 45
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minutes or something you know I
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basically wanted to say don't give me
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the stream if you can give
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me 1080p can't give me ten eighty then
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just keep trickling in the 1080 until
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you have enough that you think you can
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start showing me in real time maybe that
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would rather wait 15 minutes or
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something maybe just a bad are now
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anyway i'll try it next time I haven't
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watched episode 2 because I heard you
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guys say bad things about it so I'm well
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is motivated to watch it
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yeah it was so quick sidebar we have to
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bring it up and I was gonna bring it up
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wow I'm so too is from did you watch it
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Marco no I had to spoil it I i have to i
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keep hearing though that it is a kind of
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a step backwards and quality so yeah I
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don't want to spoil anything but i will
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just summarize my thoughts by saying our
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host seem to have forgotten that they
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oh no and yeah whoo-hoo-hoo it was bad
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it was not good it's worth seeing like
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so here's the thing like again no
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spoilers I definitely laughed a fair bit
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so in that sense it was successful but
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half of that was laughing through the
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cringing and half of it was generally
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laughter would you have left if you were
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watching it alone
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I understand the question i would say
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yes but not nearly as emphatically mm
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it's worth your time but unlike the
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first episode I wouldn't rush to watch
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it you might even want to wait until the
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series is 0 season whatever they're
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calling it is a disease announced its
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kind of an American show anyway
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wait until it's over and then go back to
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episode 2 but yikes coming back around
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we should also mention that breaking
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news as of a few hours ago actually
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apparently netflix is allowing you to
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download stuff onto your devices as well
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I I didn't look into this very much i
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would guess that this is not onto a
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computer but just onto a iOS or perhaps
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android device but this never used to be
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a thing there was no mechanism for
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netflix to contribute to be able to
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refer you to be able to download netflix
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movies and TV shows and whatnot now
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apparently you can which is exciting
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there were a few thoughts about the lack
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of the arms or ears or whatever you'd
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like to call them on the power brick on
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the new macbook pros
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a lot of people thought that this was a
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deliberate choice because the existing
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cables do we cover this the existing
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cable on the on the prior version with
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magsafe oftentimes when you would Bend
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that cable in order to wrap it around
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those arms or years or whatever we're
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calling them you would put a pretty
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extreme bend on the very very end of
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that cable the end that attaches to the
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power brick and apparently that was just
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a tremendous point of failure across a
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gazillion people's power bricks and so
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perhaps they were the reason they got
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rid of the little ears is to prevent
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that from happening but I agree with you
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that I don't think that's what it's
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about little it wasn't just the part
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where comes out of the brick is that a
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lot of the people's theory was that the
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ears it you know even if you were very
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gentle with that part merely wrapping it
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around the little years that come out of
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that bend radius was too sharp for the
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wire and I don't
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well I don't buy this theory for a
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couple reasons of the first of all many
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people have used those years four years
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and not a problem with it was actually
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blow the threshold you feel like there
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would be many more failures now i have
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seen all the failures of the the point
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there comes out of the brick and that is
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just you know you're wrapping it too
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hard or whatever but if you are gentle
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with a wrap it around a little years I
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feel like it is sustainable but either
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way if people want to wrap it they're
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going to wrap it as evidence in Marcos a
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video that we'll talk about in the after
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show you just wrap it around the brick
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like it's the same radius as the ears
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I mean I guess maybe maybe it's a little
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now it's it's I guess yeah it may be a
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little bit broader because the years
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were not the same width as the block but
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either way if people are want to wrap
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that cable they're going to wrap that
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cable and the People wrapped tight are
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going to wrap it tight
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Apple's job is to make an adapter that
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will withstand what people do to it if
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you can make it after that will not make
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people need to wrap up the cable like
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the cable magically zips back into or
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by all means do it but if you're going
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to make an adapter that most people when
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they pack it in the bag want to wrap the
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cable around something and it got the
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square thing that I'd like to wrap it
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around you better make that cable so
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people can wrap it around the square
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thing without breaking it and I think
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for the most part they did that with the
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old adapters yes everybody breaks every
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cable that they are
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you know they're like sponge cutters
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which I think was talking about in the
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some people just cable operators they
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eventually destroy all the cables and
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other people don't and apples cables
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need to be more durable and strain
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relief needs to be more robust but in
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general I don't think apples square
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power bricks that have existed for many
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many years have a reputation as being
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fatally flawed like I feel like that is
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a workable design that they should
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concentrate on making veterans and
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instead of you know if the idea was
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these years cause people to wrap things
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and therefore the cable breaks removing
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the ears doesn't solve that problem
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the the cable breakers are still just
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going to break their cable so i don't
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think that was the reason if it was I
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would imagine Apple would have cited at
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some point but and if it was the reason
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i would say Apple your job is to make
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the cable not break not take away the
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thing that you think people are gonna
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wrap it around that something to like
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you know the the argument here is and
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out before anyone says that you know the
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another counter argument we heard was
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that now it isn't just carrying power
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now the cable is a full USBC 3.1 cable
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so it has more wires inside of it and so
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and that's why that's why the new power
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cable is actually noticeably thicker and
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less flexible than the old one and end
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to that my answer is it didn't need to
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be necessarily like this is a cable that
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the vast majority of people using it the
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vast majority of the time are going to
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use as the power cable to the laptop
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it's going to be effectively a dedicated
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most people are not going to be like
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swapping Internet between different
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cables all the time like with you know
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between using this cable as a power
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cable and then unplug it from the power
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brick using it to plug in a hard drive
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for a few minutes like no in practice
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most people are going to use this cable
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as the power cable for its entire useful
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life time you can solve that the Apple
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way the way they used to solve that is
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make the end that connects to the brick
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not a USBC connector and then you just
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make it a straight-up power connector
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does not work as a USB connector because
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only one is USBC the other end is some
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weird thing that would things together
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with is the keyboard remember the old
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apple keyboard that supported the power
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button the connector that went to the
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keyboard and had a kink in it and you
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couldn't put a regular USB in there just
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before our time anyway
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yeah so that it used to be that there
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was a the power button to turn on your
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Mac was on the keyboard and to support
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that basically just before turning on a
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turned off computer by pressing enter on
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the keyboard they had a special cable
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with a special whatever and the USB at
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taipei connector had a little V shaped
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like a groove in it and so did the end
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where went to the keyboards if you tried
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to stick a regular USB type a connector
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wouldn't go in because the little
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rectangle would hit the little triangle
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shaped David that was down there and
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that was your signal that all I can't
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just take this cable and use the right
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this is not a regular USB cable is a
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special one so for their power brick and
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I might be able to complain about this
[TS]
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but they have two options when they
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could have permanently affixed the end
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of the powerbook like the old one has
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disadvantages too because that part
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breaks right and the second is make it a
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power only cable with the big thick
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heavy gauge you know wire for the power
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and no wires for data have a USBC
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looking connector on one end and have
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whatever the health connector you want
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to put on the other end but that
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definitely isn't USB so they would like
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basically be a proprietary power cable
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or whatever many solutions of this is
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deciding that the power cable to your
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laptop because it has to be a fully
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functional USBC cable that you can take
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mac for some reason
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hey I don't even know if that's true
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market Marco can try it out and see if
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it is I you know if that's true and B
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that's not a useful application is true
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like that's that's not useful thing to
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penalize all other mainstream use of
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this computer for the fraction of people
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occasionally plug it in without having
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power or are going to break other cable
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time like that I feel like that's it
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that's not a good trade-off like eat the
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dissolution to some people afraid this
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wire is not well let's make it sucks for
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everybody like no that is not the right
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solution here the right solution here
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which Apple I think used to be good at
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doing is like find a better design if
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you need to and and do the thing that
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that functions best for the most people
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on removing the usefulness of it for
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most people to accommodate some edge
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cases and I simply don't agree with that
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yeah I I think you're right i'm coming
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back around to you know well what do you
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advantages of this new power supply
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last time now but a lot of people have
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assume you destroy that cable by
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whatever mechanism doesn't really matter
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how it's a regular USBC cable so instead
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of buying a new $80 brick you can just
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buy a presumably maybe 10 or 20 or 30 or
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even $40 USBC cable and your break is
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still fine and so and that's really
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awesome additional forty dollars for us
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bck but I hope not i don't have the
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famous died well but this this is like
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these are high power USB cables that can
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carry that much higher wattages of the
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13 and 15 inch macbook pros compared to
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like a little skinny ones that could
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maybe charge the macbook one so the idea
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that we that we can get third-party
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replacements here i think most for the
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most part it's gonna be pretty much only
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time if it might be forever you know it
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the pc industry could decide to go a
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in all likelihood it's probably going to
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be if this cable breaks you hereby one
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from amazon that will like melt or catch
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fire or not charge your laptop at full
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speed or you can go and buy apples for
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40 bucks like that's probably going to
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be the answer here and so i think the
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the third party potential as like a
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counter argument here is is kind of made
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less significant by you can look around
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the USBC ecosystem you can see like all
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the stuff that's been out for the
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macbook one so far which is now almost
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two years old so that's how a while now
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it was very clear from the beginning
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like yeah yeah but it'sit's a niche
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product Mitch whatever else that we're
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not really and and so but is there any
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way you can look at the ecosystem of
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things that have become available for
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that so far from third parties and what
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you basically have is a mess of like
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hubs and port splitters some of what
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you're okay most of your crap and it's
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kinda hard to tell which is a pitch and
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then you have a very small number of
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external batteries and external chargers
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and and third-party charging cables a
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very small number of those most of which
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are of questionable quality i would say
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so even after two years the third-party
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ecosystem for us bc in the realm of like
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high power to things like laptops has
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barely materialized and so to to figure
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it to assume that anything meaningful
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will come out for a 15 inch which needs
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85 watts like in the next couple years I
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don't I don't see it being very likely i
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think what's more likely is we just lost
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features and when things break we we
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still have to pay apple for the
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replacement we just might have to pay
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them less money depending on which part
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or parts broke making removals a good
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idea though I like the idea is removable
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it's much better to be able to buy
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replacement cable I just don't care
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about buying like oh and when you buy a
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replacement cable it's just the USB I
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was like Marcus said hey it's not just
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us being able to special one and some
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firepower and be just make a proprietary
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and one in like i'll pay apple the the
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20 bucks for replacement if I'm a wire
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killer and I killed the thing it's much
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better than buying a dollar break right
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and removable cable you know thumbs up
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everybody likes it like it was an
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opportunity to take an existing design
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and fix some of the things that are
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wrong with it just like making the
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iphone success less slippery or whatever
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like you got the bricks I mean you could
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read it on him entirely and reimagine
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and counseling way better but if you
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don't have the time or budget to do that
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just like the one you have to make it a
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little better and making a removable
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cable does make it a little bit better
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but moving the years and making it
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removable but making it a big thick USBC
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table that's not easy to wrap
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I mean like that's the thing was just
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like cook don't wrap it around anything
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just entirely coil it into a circle with
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a nice bend radius and now you have a
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circle that's about the same size as the
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square and you just don't stick them
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together with a rubber band or something
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in there you go i think that is what you
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should do instead of trying to wrap
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around the break to be clear but people
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are going to do what they're going to do
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i'm not sure people are going to take
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advantage of that and that cable i
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didn't realize i think it was all
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markers video is its that's pretty
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cumbersome yeah so the replace
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cement USBC charge cable that
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specifically in the product information
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noted to be for the macbook pros and the
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macbook adorable the six-foot-two meter
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version is nineteen dollars from apple
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so I I when I said forty dollars earlier
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I just had no idea and the chat room has
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provided a link to put in the show notes
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its twenty dollars from Apple that's
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again 2 meters a one meter or three foot
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equivalent cable from anchor is fifteen
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dollars and this one from anchors
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specifically noted in the product to
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product description to carry up to a
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hundred watts so it's not terribly
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expensive to replace these and it's Jack
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of a lot less expensive like i said
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earlier than replacing an eighty dollar
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brick which is awesome
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additionally and I think John you just
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disconnected and I think part of the
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reason that I lamented losing the years
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was because I wanted some way to wrap up
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that part of the cable that used to be
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attached permanently attached to the
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brick and it didn't occur to me without
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when i was talking about it last episode
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that i can just pop the darn thing out
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and like you said John coil it up by
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whatever mechanism i feel appropriate
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and then I don't need those ears anymore
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also i've been really bombed in
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principle about the lack of years and I
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i am i am standing down from that I
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think that was me not thinking the
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problem through i am still a bit bummed
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by magsafe and I know that they're the
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there's the belkin Griffin
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whatever-it-is thing that you can kind
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of hack magsafe back in i don't really
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care for that but i would I I understand
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why it's not magsafe i think is probably
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the right decision overall but I am
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bummed about the loss
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thanks a lot so if you if you happen to
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break both pieces of your power adapter
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or if you want a second power adapter it
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appears that the new one is more
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expensive in the old one
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what a surprise is is that i didn't know
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that the old the these the 85 way
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assuming a 15-inch the 85 watt actually
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looks like it's true for the 14 13 as
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85 watt max safe to power adapter which
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not only does include the the magsafe
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cable and brick obviously but i think it
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even includes that extension cable
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the $19 anyway even if you did something
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so that is $79 so that's what it was
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yes $79 field for the adapter for the
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alternation I'm sorry I thought you
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talked about the new on my part the new
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one is $79 just for the brick part
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oh wow so if you want to match what you
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got before you have to spend another $19
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for the USBC cable and optionally
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another $19 for the actual three prong
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extension cable that used to come with
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I'm gonna check my order that when i
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ordered my my adapters my work thing i
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don't know if i took that into account
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because I ordered a second powerbook
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like for home so don't bring the power
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brake back and forth but i don't know if
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i ordered the power cable thing probably
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not so so actually what we have here is
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a price hike by either twenty or forty
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dollars depending on whether you need
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the extra long three-prong cable or not
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thatthat's thanks to him yet another
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accessories price hike added to the
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dongles added to the now two-sided ipad
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cases keep you keep added up to him
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yeah and there were some article that
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flew around it doesn't matter where it
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was but I read somewhere somebody saying
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you know a lot of these things i can
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just buy like we were just talking about
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with the magsafe you know the loss of
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magsafe yet stock so i can justify it
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and yea losing your sucks but you can
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justify but man these sorts of price
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hikes and I'm maybe there are a lot more
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complex on the inside and I don't know
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i'm not aware of it and and I'm not
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giving it do credit but golly it's hard
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for this not to just seemed like gouging
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or you know or nickel and diming for the
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sake of doing so like when did Apple
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become Porsche in many ways
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tim has continued Apple doing things
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that we think are right but there are
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going to be changes on a big scale when
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the operations guy who's really good at
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profit and operations takes over the
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company from the product visionary and
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it's not to say that Steve didn't care
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about profit he very much would charge
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outrageous amounts for whatever he felt
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like because he thought he could and
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sometimes it works and sometimes it
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didn't but if you when you have the
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operation take over the company
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there are going to be changes like this
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it's inevitable Tim Cook he means well I
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think he means well for the products and
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for Apple but he is very much numbers
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and profit-driven that shows in a lot of
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things apple has done in the last five
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years it really really shows you as
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never mentioned last show like with a
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lot of Apple changes you can kind of
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take that the charitable explanation or
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you can realize like you know well
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there's also this other side effect for
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witches apple makes more money now or
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things got more expensive with this
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progress that we made or things like
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these kind of changes are inevitable
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when with tim cook when the company it's
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going to keep happening
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we're going to keep seeing things get
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cut we're gonna see features to get cut
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we're going to see accessories that we
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used to be included that now costs money
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we're like it was going to keep seeing
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this because the way Tim Cook operates
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is to find profit and extracted that is
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what he's really good at and it's going
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to keep happening as long as Tim Cook is
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as long as Tim Cook is the CEO of Apple
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it's going to keep going down this path
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for things are going to get more pared
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down and more expensive and it's gonna
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yeah i mean i don't know it'sit's again
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there may be perfectly valid reasons for
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all these things but golly looking from
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they're there are a few justifications
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for this change but then also apple now
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makes 40 bucks more every time you buy
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it's like yeah like you have to look at
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both sides that like it's it's important
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to be to at least try to figure out a
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also they do this with a profit
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yeah yeah and i think the perfect
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that goes to the three prong connector
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because not all of our plugs need
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you if you're British blah blah but
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British people cannot complain about our
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plug that plugs the size of a Buick oh
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don't even get me started it's absurd
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understand why it is that that
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twenty-dollar cable is no longer
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included in this 22 five-thousand-dollar
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laptop like that it's just hard for me
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to understand why that could be
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maybe there's a reason I mean not only
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you not only just him need your just him
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just is really good at at profitability
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increasing that but look a lot of apples
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numbers are not doing so well recently
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if you look at their you know their
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earnings there Walter result their sales
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figures they have a lot of pressure on
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them to increase profitability and
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obviously no one way you do that is by
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selling more units another way to do it
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is by making more money from each one
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and so the pressure is is very strong on
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Tim Cook personally because that's the
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kind of thing like if if that starts
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going south for a while you tend to want
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to replace the CEO so the pressure is
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very strong at the top to increase those
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those revenue numbers to increase those
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are those margins to Italy to keep
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basically combat what's actually
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happening in the market which is kinda
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general cooling of a lot of the market
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the apples in right you know you have
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you have ipad sales kind of you know not
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going great you have the mac kind of
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slowing you have the iphone kind of you
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know leveling off a little bit
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Apple has a lot of pressure on it now to
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make more money somehow and it used to
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be not you know I'm not easy in absolute
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terms but it used to be easier take it
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well they just keep selling more these
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things that's great everything's going
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well but now with the the cooling off of
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their numbers in the market there's tons
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of pressure them to just increase
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profitability so we're seeing the screws
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tighten all over the place all over the
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product line the services all the screws
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tightening because they have to keep
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making more money and they have they
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have to do it for any way they can now
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because otherwise numbers are going to
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start maybe getting worse and you know
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so we're going to keep seeing this
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there's a reason what like we're going
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to keep seeing products that give us
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that are somehow you know little bit
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cheaper to make maybe or at least we are
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including include less without paying
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extra you know we're not going to see
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massive increases in like iCloud storage
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for free regulate apple needs more money
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from us and that's gonna keep happening
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yeah we'll see final bit of follow-up
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business which we knew but we had an
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email from an anonymous employee of a
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major company that makes products that
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integrate with Wi-Fi routers and this
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individual said we're sad that Apple is
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not making Wi-Fi routers anymore because
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out of all the equipment that we deal
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with worldwide the airport's had the
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fewest problems and the two problems
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that we had seemed to have gotten
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themselves fix some way somehow and
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that's a pretty glowing recommendation
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from someone who presumably is in the
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additionally JD Power and Associates
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apparently rated apples routers is
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having the highest or best or
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what-have-you customer satisfaction or
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if you're Tim Cook customer sat of all
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available Wi-Fi routers so whoops well
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the customer sad thing is kind of funny
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because there's you know that you got
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the endowment effect or whatever the
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hell it's called when you buy something
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expensive you're more inclined to say
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that it's good because you don't be
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foolish for making the purchase and so
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apples routers are very expensive and
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therefore people who buy them are more
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likely to say that they're good and also
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it's got the apple brand where even if
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your Wi-Fi router is the same or worse
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than other ones because it's the apple
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brand because it looks nice and because
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it matches your other Apple software
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also inclined to say that it's better so
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those two things are working towards any
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know empirically performance-wise levels
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Wi-Fi routers are not the best you can
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buy but that's just you know it's it's
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another not a data point for Apple to
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consider is that they were selling an
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outdated product that doesn't perform as
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well as the competition and cost more
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and people were still satisfied with it
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is to believe that you know their people
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they're willing to pay more money for a
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less good on paper product that I in my
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experience was actually reliable so you
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know most companies would like to have a
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product like that but Apple it's not
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it's not along the critical path raffle
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these days so oh well enough
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alright we are out of follow-up and the
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topic list says that the next thing we
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well I should ask you to it's been so
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long since 10 most present haha gotta
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remember what it is
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did you watch the day you and it came
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out we did I did yeah it's like a boy a
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boy puppy right yeah yeah so you already
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know about specific looks like a puppy
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here are so many other people
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yes so I I don't feel like even though
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I'm the official summarizer in chief for
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the chief summarized in chief I don't
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feel like I'm the best person summarizes
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because I don't really care for video
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game consoles but what I remember from
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the video was it was pretty people in
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pretty apartments playing with this
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thing that could either be a handheld or
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could be connected to your TV and it
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seemed to also facilitate using like two
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controllers if you're playing by
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controllers to a friend and hold on to
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seemed like a very compelling very
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different an interesting take on a video
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game console but truth be told I've
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known the video game console since the
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original wii and I got that console for
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all the reasons that all the people who
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don't play video games got it was
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because it looked interesting and
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exciting and different so I don't market
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let me start with you anything you want
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to add to that and then John why don't
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consoles and not frequently but there's
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usually like one or two great games that
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she wants to play so badly any system
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that we end up buying it anyway and then
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usually its sister and collecting dust
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forever and we feel bad about it
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afterwards so these systems are in my
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house I could play them occasionally I
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have but it's basically not a part of my
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life i'm basically not a gamer I I used
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to be and i would like to be still same
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opportunity comes up to play a game I
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gamer but in practice I never choose to
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it's usually the way it works against
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don't play games forever and ever like
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the game comes out they play it for a
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actually know well i was i was also kind
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of using it as like Twitter methadone
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yeah well anyway did you see that thing
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i sent you by the way that doesn't
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girlfriend someone found the end yeah
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yeah it's almost at the 16-bit in limit
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yeah so basically the intense which
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some of the things about that that I
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people like me so things like it you
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know like the wii it is kind of the
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casual gaming system it is not like the
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hardcore you know ps7 vr + / like I
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don't care about most of that stuff I i
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probe ER i know i would use it like once
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i know i won't use it and I just don't
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care and all the games you want to play
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the systems are all like everyone
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shooting each other and calling them
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racist names and it's just like I don't
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you know that's yeah yeah I have most of
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like modern management gaming is really
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not for me for a number of reasons so
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anyway what I like about the Nintendo
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approach in general is it tends to focus
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on just what the fuck with the fun
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gameplay and the general playability and
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quality of the games themselves not just
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when you're playing a an army simulation
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yeah that doesn't do anything for me but
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the idea of racing around a rainbow
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racetrack shooting turtle shells of my
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friends and like that if like I like
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that you know that sounds fun and so I
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like the theory of what Nintendo does
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and maybe what they used to do in
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practice while I've had very little
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experience with it and almost all butch
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was at johns house a couple years ago
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for his birthday
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playing playing the wii u it seems like
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Nintendo's recent efforts are so much
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more complex than they used to be that
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for somebody like me it doesn't really
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pull me anymore like 8i i would i would
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love if I could just go by entendo
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system and bring it home and have it be
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just as nice and simple and playable and
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accessible as their older games were
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like in the nes in Super Nintendo era
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but just new games inside just playing
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the same old ones over and over again
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like I would love that i would love to
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go out and pay for that and and enjoy it
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with my family that be fun but in
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practice the game now are so complex
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because they just had so many years to
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accumulate crap so like mario kart has
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like 50 characters now and all these
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different crazy things happening all
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over the track like it's hard for me to
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even keep up its kind of manic it's kind
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of like they've advanced even past this
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my level of casual gaming so when I see
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the switch and it won't want to the
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video of the sort of the promo video the
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switch with all the pretty young people
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who have nothing to do apparently
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playing video games all day sorry young
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people when i see that it looks
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appealing it looks like i would love to
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have this little puppy gameboy and be
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able to take the controllers and have
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local multiplayer anywhere i take this
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that's awesome like the two player that
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is so great to have two player local
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multiplayer in a portable like this
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that's fantastic i hope they really do
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well with that and i hope they really
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use it but if i look at the games they
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made recently it's all stuff that I that
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I think i will like unless I try it and
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I realize oh this
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yeah i don't i don't know if this is too
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much for me i don't i don't care for
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this so it's the kind of thing where in
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theory i might really enjoy this thing
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but in practice i probably won't
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so John what do you think well my i am a
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console gamer and I do like gaming
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consoles and I've had a whole bunch of
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them have had it but having my house now
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the ps3 for pro and the Nintendo 64 game
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cube we did I skip on anyway I got a
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bunch of different consoles know
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Microsoft one sorry at and when the we
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came out I was disappointed that
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Nintendo had given up the race for
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console power that they were no longer
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pursuing that they were content to
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produce a console that was basically
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previous generation hardware and I was
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disappointed in that because I knew what
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that would mean for the games that are
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produced and I know what it would mean
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for the software support and it
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eventually did like very quickly games
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would be out for playstation 3 xbox 360
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and pc that was a list of supported
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platforms you would see all the time on
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games the most popular games are out for
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those platforms the best sellers the
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triple-a games as i told them i was a
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call them playstation 3 xbox 360 pc
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never we port if there was a wee part in
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the rare case it looked terrible they
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played terrible it had disadvantages
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because you just can't make a cross
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platform game targeting three platforms
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that are sort of on the same level
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and then one platform that is an entire
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generation behind that didn't end up
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hurting the wii because that we appeal
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to all the cases of the world who are
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like I want a regular bowl too and it
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was fun right and it was it was cool and
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interesting and got tons more people to
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play to buy a nintendo console and by
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Nintendo console games and play them and
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have a good time and so the wii was a
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success as a product but for me who is
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just a plain old boring console gamer of
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the old stripe not of the new on a bowl
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of my living room strike but the
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old-style it was interesting i like
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mostly like the fact that i could play
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gamecube games on it
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still it was nice that backward
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compatibility which you know it didn't
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get on the the ps3 or whatever and i
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enjoyed those games two and i enjoyed
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the Nintendo exclusive games as the
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first party games as i always do it
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because they were all very good you know
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nintendo does a good job with this offer
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they're not too complex for me so I was
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i liked the the expansion of those games
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into the new platform oh I did play
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zelda on the Gamecube instead of the way
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on purpose because the controls are
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better on the Gamecube one then then on
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the way version but give them a pass
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because like all right well if you have
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to do this it's going to be successful
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product rather than to have a successful
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product and unsuccessful one because I
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want them to be successful so you
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continue making the games i like and i
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did like the games that they made the
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wii u was a similar thing previous
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generation hardware right so there it is
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better than the wii but they're still
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basically one entire generation behind
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if you want to measure in terms of
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performance wasn't going to get the
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ports for all the ps4 and xbox one games
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which are its supposed contemporaries
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more or less so you're still going to
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see games their ps4 xbox one and pc
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that's all you're going to see and it
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had a novelty factor with the second
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screen and also supported all the wii's
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motion control stuff on top of that in
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fact there was so many different role
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options probably too many but it wasn't
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successful instantly people weren't as
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interested in and obviously this time
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the wii stuff was interesting to them
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because they had already seen all that
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and if they had been like Casey it
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scene that played it and then you know
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it goes away they want something new and
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the second screen didn't appeals that
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because it wasn't like marker set it
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seemed more complicated even more
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complicated than just using a controller
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you know that we've seen less
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complicated that you just stand in front
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of the TV with thing looks like our
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motor wave your hands around like an
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idiot right that but this was now I hold
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this thing with all these buttons and
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the screen here but there's also a
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screen there but sometimes they're
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combined it was too much the first party
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games for you have been really good
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intentions against was really good i
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think mary kart 8 is one of the best
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entries in the memory card series i
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don't think it's to manic I think it's
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about equally mannequins the nintendo 64
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version that Marco probably liked but it
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you know it's I think it's a great entry
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in the series i think almost all the
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antenna first party games for wii u
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really good especially the ones that
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sort of harken back to the 2d Mario's
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where they're technically 3d but they're
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the freedom of motion is decrease so
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it's a simple game to get into them you
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know a quarter full fledge merrier like
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you know sunshine galaxy or Mary 64 but
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it wasn't successfully you was not a
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success it was they stopped
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manufacturing its top-selling it way
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before the normal active life time of a
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console so the wii u is no more you can
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find a cheap it is if you really can
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find a cheap the first party games were
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absolutely worth playing and you should
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get them but i would say that we use a
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failure of a console you know I almost
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as much of a failure as that we was
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success and so the successor to that the
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hastily ready successor because if
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you're going to can we you have
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something to replace it is the switch
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thing and the rumors were for long
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before even the wii u was cancelled that
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Nintendo's next council was going to be
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some kind of hybrid thing that was both
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portable and regular and as soon as
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rumors came out you're like well for the
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third time in a row
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nintendo is not going to try to make a
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gaming console whose power is comparable
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to the current generation of consoles
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which at this point are the like 2.5
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releases you got the ps4 pro which is
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not really the next generation
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PlayStation 2 PlayStation five but it's
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more powerful than playing playstation 4
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and xbox has that Scorpio thing I forget
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Lynette that's coming out next year or
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whenever it's going to be even more
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powerful than the xbox one but backward
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compatible you know so that the other
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console makers are doing this half
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generation thing but either way the
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switch is not going to be there
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contemporary in terms of power so they
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the Rangers thing it is a hybrid if its
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hybrid and portal and how can it be how
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can be comfortable and power to
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something that you plug into the wall
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and the state's plug in the whole time
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and that is the size of lunch box this
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is small its portable the screen is
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right in it is going to be under power
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this thing uses an NVIDIA Tegra process
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this thing uses an NVIDIA Tegra process
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so which is a mobile thing I think it
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will be more powerful than the wii u
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because it was pretty pretty hard not to
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be but I don't think it's even up to the
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power level the PlayStation 4
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what does that mean for the third
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generation there will be games that are
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available for playstation 4 and
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PlayStation 4 pro for xbox one and the
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scorpio thing for pc and you won't see
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the antenna switch on that list right so
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it will continue to operate in the world
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where it doesn't get the first the the
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the Triple A titles from the big
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third-party vendors the multi-platform
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big titles are in general not going to
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be in all of them that they are and it's
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going to be a cut-down version but isn't
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that kind of like a feature not a bug
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like to me it's like you know if you
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want to have like you know call
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desensitized to violence 17 like is that
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really the kind of game that you want to
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play on a switch I I think your view of
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the console game world is very narrow
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compared to the actuality of it for
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example I would say one of the games
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that if it hasn't already played I think
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she will enjoy is uncharted 4 which is
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very very far from that have a bunch of
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twelve-year-olds call you racist names
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why you should people with realistic
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military guns stereotype that you are
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putting in an even though it is a
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multimillion-dollar Triple A game with
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huge budgets it's not cross-platform
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this case its platform exclusive we
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might actually have that with which game
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came in the bundle that we bought the
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ps4 with so the typical play fallout
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probably you probably have uncharted 4
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but if you sit and watch her play
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through it i think it's all the wrapping
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I think you if you if he decides to play
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through it and you watch her play
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through it i think you will be
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thoroughly convinced that despite having
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the trappings of you know in movie
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parlance a big-budget movie it's got all
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it costs a lot of money to make it's got
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super realistic graphics everything you
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know like it's that type of game exactly
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that type but I think content-wise is
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not what you expected to be and that's
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not even going into considering the
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games that are into John's that you're
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not even thinking about and we're
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japanese things that are you know like
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anyway i think is much more diverse than
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you think it's been no also who is
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acceptable time follow-up ATP tipster
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who knows everything
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apparently he says I have the collection
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not for 12 and 30
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well anyway all the games are getting a
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rumor of my own game collection for me
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p tipster which is probably the reason I
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look at you I don't know what W but i
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haven't been to your house to see which
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the thing you have but there's much more
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writing everybody the right i like to
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have available to me the menu of the
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best games and I don't play war games
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either i don't play any realistic
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shooters and play military shooters i
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also don't play any sports games and and
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you know like I have generous that I
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like to but i would prefer to have the
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menu of all the big important cause
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performance which is one of the reasons
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i have a playstation also as I brought
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up many times power console power you
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know computing power is not just like
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I'm just going to make them look
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prettier and it's totally pointless and
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we should concentrate on the gameplay
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more power gives the ability to make
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different types of games you can their
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gameplay advances that are only possible
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due to power 3d is one of them if you
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don't give you if you kept making 2d
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hardware and just let it control more
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and more sprites you never get married
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64 if you never crank up the computing
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power and you know for wearable shaders
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everything you don't get a game that
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looks like ego or shadow of the colossus
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of you if you can't do large crowds you
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don't get dead rising like it affects
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gameplay and like making things thinner
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you like well do I need something is
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incremental more powerful just make it
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is not that big of a deal
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well who like a Viking i get like
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slightly bigger crowds are slightly
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longer draw distance if you opt out of
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that are always lagging behind you won't
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be you won't be able to make that next
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leap like so nintendo is always one
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behind what they can do I always at this
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point you know it hasn't been talking
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about the last show some people have
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been fantasizing about what it would be
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like if Colin makers can make max was
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like boy if someone you know someone was
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willing and able to make like the mac of
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your dreams with the features that you
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want or whatever and apple let them do
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it for many years now basically since
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anything about can you imagine what a
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zelda game would be like that ps4 pro
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you know same developers like it made by
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nintendo because they know how to make
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great Zelda games that I enjoy people
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like zelda games they do not make right
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but having available to them to consult
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aren't used to be well you can't do that
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because Nintendo makes its games in
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harmony with the control schemes which
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is still true but at this point if
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they're always going to like behind hard
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it's like I'm almost willing to
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sacrifice some of their control
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innovation especially after something
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like the wii u where their control
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innovation didn't really work out that
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way like Star Fox on the wii u that's an
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interesting control scheme but i'm not
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sure to make starfox better and and even
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on the wii for traditional types of
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games like Zelda I preferred to play it
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on the Gamecube all those cards are
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obviously was a thing that only work on
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the weekend i'm glad i played that game
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even though it has some issues anyway so
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switch not pursuing that in exchange for
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not pursuing it has more than the wii u
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does the wii u did not pursue power did
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not have a novelty to get people to buy
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it but it didn't it didn't have anything
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the only thing I had to offer was how
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you've got second screen is lots of
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different transcripts which I think was
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interesting but ultimately wasn't enough
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the switch has something to offer which
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like you said markers you can take it
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away from your TV and carry with you
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like that is that is a pretty big
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selling point and if nintendo is going
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to opt out of the console war as they
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you know the console power water
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basically to be in their own market like
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we are not selling a thing that's the
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same as the xbox and playstation we're
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selling a different thing like you and
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you can tell it's different because you
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can pick those up and walk away with
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them they don't have a screen right it
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is a different thing and so then it you
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don't have an expectation that the
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multi-platform games going to be on all
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of them and now the question is where do
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they find they find a place in the
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gaming market where they can fit that is
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not competing with microsoft and sony
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over there making the consul's not
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competing for with the pc gamers also
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not competing for the phone and tablet
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games is their place somewhere like it's
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not one of those places that's making
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games that you can use portably but also
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on your TV but aren't console games and
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aren't fancy like pc games but also our
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casual like mobile games it's a strange
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place and i think i think the switch it
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has the ability to potentially carve out
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that appeal and I think actually the
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thing that gives you the power to find a
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market is both it has an advantage the
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customers and see but also because it's
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less powerful this was true the way you
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in the way and it was enough to save
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them but because of less powerful there
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is the potential to attract
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games that are I don't know there's a
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word for it but like not triple I but
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how about double-a games or just a game
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is basically games made on a much
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smaller budget because the assets will
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be you know fewer polygons lower
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resolution textures like it's still
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there still happen definition right but
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in theory that so the theory goes you
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can make a game more cheaply for the
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switch then you can for the playstation
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4 or the xbox one because there is lower
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fidelity and lower-cost heart in the
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assets and all that other stuff and so
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if there's an interesting game idea that
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doesn't they can never get the
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multimillion-dollar budget behind it
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maybe that will appear on the switch why
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wouldn't a game appear on iOS maybe it
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that's bad for Nintendo but maybe also
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is the type of game that really expect a
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traditional controller and you can't put
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a game on iOS that demands the
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controller and apparently you can do an
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apple TV and no one cares because no one
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games on apple TV and you know honestly
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don't know which camera is it was gonna
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probably be more powerful more capable
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in a much better game system in the
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apple TV and regular TV connected box so
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I I'm not optimistic about the switches
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chances but I'm not as pessimistic as i
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was about the wii u of it intends going
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to do anything it was either come back
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and try to compete with micro zoning and
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they're not doing that now and then to
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be clear that would be very dangerous
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and difficult than the other kind
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understand what they didn't do it or
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find a new market and this is their
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attempt to find a new market and just
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just staring at it like it's not up to
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me what I think it is not the market he
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thinks of its it's on mass like if you
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know you're busy it's okay so you think
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that people is yeah right
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it really is though is the thing that
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people want to buy right because people
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already have they can already play
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better golf they can already play angry
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birds on their phones right and they
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already have another console and they
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already have pcs is you know is nintendo
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slowly becoming the company that sells
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products only two people who want to
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play first part in nintendo games and if
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so is that a viable business and if it's
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a viable business is it a viable
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business that supports the creation of
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hardware or will they inevitably end up
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merely being a game developer for other
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people's hardware which no one wants to
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see happen but as the Nintendo that we
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knew it seems to be fading from view and
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as intended was forced to
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I'm not gonna say pimp out its
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properties but forced to expand its
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intellectual property into new realms by
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you know making mobile games like Mary
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run and having and pokemon go by teaming
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up with universal to make a theme park
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doing things that have previously hadn't
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done because look they have very
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valuable intellectual property and if
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you want to make some money you can make
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money by giving University of characters
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having been making the theme park you
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can make money by making a mobile
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version of mario because it's going to
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sell a lot of copies just based on the
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name but as they do that the Nintendo
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that was the Nintendo that made Mary 64
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and the controller and that whole
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console you know to to usher in a new
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age of 3d gaming all the piece hardware
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and software and you know in gameplay
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altogether that one is fading from view
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and it makes me just think more and more
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about the idea of nintendo making a
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zelda game for ps4 and stop selling its
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own hardware entirely like if they if
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they keep trying you know if they've had
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11 success in one failure
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the third one will kind of be the
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tiebreaker if they didn't do it with
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what is the net what's the next
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generation move is the next generation
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to say no more hardware entirely or do
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they go back to fighting with Microsoft
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Nintendo for with real full power
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consoles or has that ship sailed
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I don't know anyway i'm buying another
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switch because i want to play the next
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mary zell the game as i always do and
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whatever other weird game surprises me
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because there's always one for each and
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a platform and when I buy a console and
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play only two or three games on it
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I don't feel bad or guilty I feel like
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it's money well spent because you know
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that's the amount of time i have to
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invest and I'm totally willing to to buy
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a contact i bought two consoles now to
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playstation 4 consoles the vast majority
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which have been playing a single game
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destiny only to play uncharted for a few
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other things on it and I'm fine with
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that but it doesn't really matter
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I'm not the customer Apple is going for
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and neither is marco i think nintendo
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continues to go for Casey which is
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someone who's not really into games but
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maybe the bodies thing just because it
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looks cool and and we'll see we'll see
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but the the sales numbers i will see
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what the third party software support
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looks like because the third party
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software support for the wii u just
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basically disappeared after
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everyone realized that no one was buying
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them and you can't put your existing
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titles and it's not worth making a
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custom title because it's not enough of
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them out in the wild and no one knows
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what to do with that controller anyway
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so I'm not buying one of these it
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doesn't a nintendo I mean John you know
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better than I do it doesn't end o still
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do well in portables that's not
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something i don't know what had been
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following is close to the question is do
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they continue to sell the 3ds order then
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a lot of the stories that say about the
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switches like oh this is great because
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Nintendo being a small company had
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difficulty making software like you know
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for example for the wii u is a long wait
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between first-party titles and third
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parties were not filling the gap and
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that's you know if Nintendo didn't have
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to spend some of these resources making
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3ds games and so much resources making
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me you games instead the head teams just
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making games for their one and only
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platform that happens to be portable as
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well as television connected want that
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solve that problem but on the other hand
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I you know I haven't seen any official
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announcement that they're going to stop
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selling that the two TDs and 3ds and
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those are still lower power devices that
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are going to way better battery life in
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this thing is that you know so as far as
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I've been able to determine i admit that
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i have not been following this closely
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i'm sure we'll follow up about it i
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think they're going to sell the switch
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and continue to sell the 3ds least for
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some period of time so i don't know i
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don't see that they're going to get the
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big win we're like concentrate
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everything under this one console in
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theory they could in theory they could
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say this is it from now on it's intended
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switch and all other console lines will
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fade out and we'll put our wood behind
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this one arrow but you know i don't i'm
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not sure that's advisable this point and
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you know what if the switch is a dud and
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you have a hard kaur fading out on the
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the 3ds then what have you even got left
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so I don't think that's going to happen
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i have read about it happening and if it
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is some old Senate you know well maybe
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maybe this is the head right maybe maybe
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the switch is maybe right now they plan
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to launch the switch keep 3d surround as
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kind of like a fallback plan and then if
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the switch does well then you basically
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replace a 3ds then you just in 3ds and
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and move everybody to over the switches
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to me like if you look at what nintendo
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is is good at where they succeed and if
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you look at the what holds us in the
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marketplace today you know yeah I think
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you're right it is it is worth
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questioning like you know does a whole
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exist for a portable system that isn't a
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tablet sort of that also is not a 3ds
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and that also is not like an xbox and
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ps4 and I think the answer there is
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maybe because that the tablet tablet
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gaming has basically shown that a whole
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lot of people want something
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approximately that size to play games on
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either for themselves or their kids and
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actual like computing tablets of what we
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think of today basically iPads and
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occasionally cheap amazon android
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tablets that somehow cost less than a
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cable from Apple they used to be really
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well the Amazon was kind of neverwhere
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but the apple ones used to be good for
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gaming until appstore economics kind of
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ruined iOS games on a pretty grand scale
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and it's to the point now where it is
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very very hard to find games that i want
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my kid to play on iOS that aren't full
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of ads or in-app purchase garbage i'm
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willing to pay but it doesn't matter
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because it's not even an option anymore
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so basically i can see a potential
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market here where this is the system
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that you buy either for yourself or for
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your kids if you / they want a really
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good portable gaming experience because
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console games that's kind of like
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desktop computers that's like--that's
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the high end of the market you're gonna
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have the the real enthusiasts going to
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like the big TV kind of consoles that's
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fine but i think almost everyone else
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just wants a handheld thing and I think
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tablets have proven that it you know it
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3d obviously you know the as far as
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another great success that line has had
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also helps to prove this but basically
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people want like you know handheld
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gaming now for the most part most people
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want that but it's really hard to get
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good quality games on the on the app
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store around on a play store and
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whatever amazon's garbage store is named
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and so the way console market ourselves
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like the way intended would be set up
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for this you could actually have good
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games because you can actually charge
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like 40 50 bucks for them and it
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wouldn't be a market where when you
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release a game two weeks later a billion
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people have cloned your game and it's
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all and still enjoy yourselves for free
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because it doesn't even have console
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licensing was like people can't even do
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things that quickly and you can't get to
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market that quickly and like so the way
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consoles are setup is more amiable i
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guess or more facilitating of higher
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quality games and they don't have to
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rely on like gambling mechanics they
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don't have to rely on tricks in
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psychology to get you to pay for an app
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purchases over and over again like it
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isn't that kind of game it's a much
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higher quality expect experience and so
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if people want good games in handheld
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systems nintendo i think has a pretty
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good shot with this and ultimately i
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think people do want that and i think
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the tablet world and the mobile world
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are have largely failed that in recent
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years as the economics have gotten so
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brutal that everyone is forced to make
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really crappy games for the most part i
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don't i don't really see how this could
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ever really work and the reason is is
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that I so we talked a lot if not the
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three of us than our industry talks a
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is going away not just a windows machine
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you know anything any sort of computer
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that sits on a desktop is going away the
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three of us don't want that to happen
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and it probably won't ever truly happen
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but for an average consumer the desktop
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is going away in even a laptop mean
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aaron has a macbook air that yes has had
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water spilled on it but he's running
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right now and she barely uses it
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compared to her phone and that's just
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one data point but i think that's one of
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many that are similar and if we treat
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the continent that traditional consoles
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of like the Playstations and the xboxes
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of the world as you know that that the
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pcs or perhaps even like the pc the pc
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of gaming you know like you mention
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markets at the same thing all the
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high-end of gaming's consoles on the pc
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gamers rolling their eyes when they
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that's a fair point that's very well
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yeah after I pc LOL that no I might need
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to go there but let let's just take that
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as an aside it because it's going to
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ruin my whole point here the point of
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driving it is you know that the super
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hardcore will perhaps have a pc game
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that the reasonably hardcore will have
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like an Xbox or Playstation everyone
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else will probably have their phones and
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their tablets probably their phones
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I don't feel like I
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understand that yes this is unique and
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it's a different spot than either a
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phone or a pc or a traditional console
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but there's no freaking way that this is
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going to work i mean how well as the
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surface book really working
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I don't think it's working that well I
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feel like this which is like the surface
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book or that the surface in general of
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the video gaming industry and and i will
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give you guys a chance refute that but
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another thing I wanted to ask practice
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John more than anyone or maybe Marco
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since this used to be your bag
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what how do we feel Sega has done since
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they abandoned hardware in his indoor
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now doing almost always the cautionary
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tale that everyone says no nintendo
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don't do that because just look at sega
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but I don't you know say you did not
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have the kind of IP and talent that
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nintendo has saying I had one good
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successful system that was well-timed
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and while playing the market it was the
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genesis yeah every other sago hardware
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release had some kind of massive law
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whether it was bad market timing a weird
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architecture too much complexity too
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expensive like every literally every
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other sega platform they all yes even
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your beloved dreamcast dream has people
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like that was bad market timing like it
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was it was it everything that say every
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piece of hardware so you never released
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was about the time or said some other
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major flaw that held back from
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succeeding except the Genesis that was
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the only time that ever worked so I
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really consider I don't consider setting
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a great example because they like it
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it's almost like they just kind of
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lucked out with the Genesis and that
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kind of fuel than the rest of the way
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but everything else that it was like ham
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fisted and wrong
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icic which one of these like if if you
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what makes you think you're not gonna
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end up like the next sega great
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regardless about their hardware was
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eventually they stop making it because
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like basically consolidation and they
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were the weakest player and you know so
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on and so forth when they became
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software only because they can make your
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games you know dreamcast had really good
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games which is one of the reasons people
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always say that it was a good counsel
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even though it totally wasn't
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controllers gross but that they've made
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lots of good games and even you know for
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super monkey ball even for Nintendo's
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content like it's not like they they
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lost the ability to make good software
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is just that they they're pale shadow
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what they want when they were one of the
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platforms it was like you're in there
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you're in the race your you know even if
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you're in third place whatever you're
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you're in the mix right and when you're
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just a software maker you live and die
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based on your software things and it
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becomes more like hit driven business
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and they just didn't have the solid sort
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of it's like you know it's like the star
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wars franchise like it would it takes
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you know it would take a lot to me that
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you can make three just hypothetically
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three execrable movies and still the
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star wars brand is very strong and is
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worth a lot of money right
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Sega and Nintendo has as Mario Zelda has
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metro has so many franchises so many
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franchises that have enough great games
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and enough goodwill and enough
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consistency in the games even those
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think every once in a while like other
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and metroid which really was no source
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to was a teenager anyway so many
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franchises to lean on that if they just
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cranked on those as a software-only
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vendor they could last for a long time
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just making the next good 3d marry again
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the next cell the game the next metroid
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game the next pokemon game the next
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smash brothers game like they have just
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so much intellectual property where sega
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well they try to make them and Sonic
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game for a long long time and just their
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average went way down and there are
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other things you know you got making
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garbage that wasn't really second i know
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you got to get Shenmue you got you know
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all the the virtuous here you are you
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all they have lots of franchises do but
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none of the mathletes sonic spinball
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John sonic spinball well they may
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metroid pinball to you know so there's
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you know there's a lot of free anyway I
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feel like Nintendo has a stronger stable
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and they have more consistency making
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those games now giving up hardware is a
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big deal because that means you're never
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going to have the ability to do a
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hardware software synergy on the level
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of the wii or and we sports or nintendo
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64 and Mary 64 like all those things
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that you can do or i would argue the
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awesome gamecube controller and all the
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games that they work with that like yeah
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you know you won't be able to do that if
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you're not a hardware maker so it's a
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big sacrifice but I think intend the
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reason intended won't be another sega is
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they're better at making games and they
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have more bankable properties that even
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if they mess up a few of them the
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property in the same way that star wars
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is still bankable a bunch of stinking
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games are not going to make it so that
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you know that a nintendo loses the
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ability to make that and be they're not
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gonna sell so poorly that people will
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stop by Mary games because there have
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been sticker Mary games like are ones
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that people like less than 11 same thing
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with metro and all the other franchises
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and arguably even Zelda not stinker but
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like less less beloved let's say and yet
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still people clamor for the next one
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because the average is high enough
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yeah now that the thing that Marcos
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going with the switch in the app store
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was thinking when you're talking about
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that is that console games are more
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apple like in the old and been in all
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senses the world then the app store
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because the app store like you said is
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filled with crap and junk and scams and
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figure lockdown in 40 bucks and thank
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you and things that are you know things
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that are not like this they're not nice
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like normally the whole thing was apples
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like you pay more money for a nicer
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experience and the app store is the
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opposite of that you pay less money for
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worse experience on consoles games are
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like you pay more money
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sixty bucks for a nicer experience it's
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not vested with ads and in-app purchases
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and you know I mean that's creeping into
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the console world with downloadable
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content as they call it and micro
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transactions and stuff like that but in
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general if you have to compare them
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which one of these is more like the
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Apple experience it's the one where you
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pay more for you said the proprietary
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that you know thing but that you get a
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nicer experience but the switch is the
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problem the switch has in terms of
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trying to tread that middle ground
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first of all you know this is totally
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not finished hardware switch is almost
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certain to be the atari lynx affordable
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gaming systems into that battery cannot
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last a long time as compared to with
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3des because come on that's a big screen
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is way more powerful power-hungry
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processor in there
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this thing is not going to last as long
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as a I mean I don't know how long the
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3ds last but like there it looks like
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it's basically like a souped-up tablet
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right so if you look at like what can a
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what can an ipad get if especially if
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you made a little bit thicker it is
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thicker but it's playing games
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constantly yeah but I i think that it
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wouldn't surprise me a battery life was
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better than you expect
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well anyway it's got a better life from
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butBut the more serious thing is the
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switch is like if you're looking for
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something in between the two
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this is not the problem the switches the
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advantage of this which people like me
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the games that are available in the
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switch are for the most part going to be
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full-fledged console games the only
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difference being is that you can't do
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anything that couldn't be running last
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generation harbor so that they keep
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showing Zelda on the switch zelda is not
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a casual gamer game it is a big
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sprawling complicated game that probably
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it would help if you have played other
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zelda games in the past the people who
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are waiting for the game the millions of
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people are going to pay for it know what
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they're getting and what they're getting
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is more complicated than almost any iOS
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game ever been made and how there is a
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little closer iOS but in general tablet
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games do not have the wherewithal or
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budgets or inclination to be that
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complicated if only because you can't
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sell them for 60 bucks right almost
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every game on the switch even be simpler
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ones are more complicated because they
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can be like they're more like console
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games that they are like phone or tablet
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games you've got this thing that looks
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like you're saying oh this is this is a
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better version of tablet gaming but i
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think they will be very few games that
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are like you're not going to see cut the
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rope for the switch for 60 bucks maybe
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you'll see cut the rope for the switch
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like literally cut the rope for the
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switch from their little downloadable
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store which by the way intended was
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terrible at selling things
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electronically through the downloadable
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stores maybe you'll see that but i don't
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think that that type of thing is going
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to support this this thing is going to
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play essentially console games and one
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of its selling points hey quote-unquote
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full-fledged console games on the go and
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that is totally aimed at the market of
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people who might buy a console but you
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know this will be cheaper than them
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right and you know but are are intrigued
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by this and I don't think it's going to
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pull people from the tablet and phone
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game well because they just want dessert
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golfing or cut the rope or angry birds
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or something that is way simpler or
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flappy bird for Cronulla something is
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way simpler then like if someone gets
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intense which things like you know the
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thing that and they see like Zelda
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advertising I get zelda they're going to
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be in so far over their head they're
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gonna be like whoa whoa whoa i just i
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don't understand even how to make
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forward progress in this game and how
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it's just that is too much fun that is
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because that is going to be that that's
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the experience which is providing and
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that's its appeal to all the customers
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so I still think they're they're
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shopping amongst the people who been
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maybe already have an xbox and maybe you
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already have a playstation 4 but you're
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looking for a second console nintendo
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nintendo has been staking out the second
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console market for three generations now
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okay you got your real console but would
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you like something fun and quirky and
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has the ability to play the first party
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properties that you come to know and
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love and in general
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America is just as fun as you imagined
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it has always been and if you're into
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cells that we have one of those two and
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mario games are are you know the the
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plano Mary platformers are fun like
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that's what they think they're staking
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out with this and the new appeal is
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you've got one console but you can't
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pick that one up and bring it with you
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so if your console gamer by this one and
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I you can play console games on the go
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and by the way to get a bunch of unique
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properties have a hard time seeing them
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pulling people from the app store even
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though as Marco said the experience is
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so much better than the appstore games
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was just filled with scams and traps
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in-app purchases and everything I don't
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see this is going to change in tendo's
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fate and he's wasted perform and and I
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mean the most of the playstation vita
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whatever that portable one was that I've
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seen like three of them in my life they
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made like a phone I if memory serves
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that have like a quasi playstation
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branding that that played like these
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video games i just i don't know like I
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admire it I definitely think it's clever
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and I think it's very nintendo and I
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admire it but I don't see how this is
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going to be a blockbuster because it
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serves a non-existent market it's not
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going to serve the hardcore gamers it's
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not going to serve the people who have a
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pretty darn fine video gaming platform
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in their pocket today
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yeah the idea don't think it's that iOS
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device is that like the games are the
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games are creditor and filled with
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in-app purchases and they're not as
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sophisticated like that one of the
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things you can do with this type of
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thing that bring people over who liked
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save someone who grew up playing phone
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games and never really considered
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themselves a gamer but by this thing on
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profits been up profits been down the
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is that the end of the world it is that
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enough to sustain the company it is
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probably because the ups and downs even
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out over the long haul and you continued
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being a nintendo that you are it's just
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that nobody likes that no one wants to
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see Nintendo limp along its subsistence
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levels they want to see it occasionally
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be more successful than that they want
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to see where is the next week coming
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that you know and and arguably pokemon
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up but i don't think the switch is going
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merely sustains them like case it's like
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still ok and we get to speed up we will
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it out generation placing really fun
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games and see if they have a different
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idea the next time and that's one of the
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great things about Nintendo people are
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excited about the playstation five and
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Xbox whatever the hell they're go stupid
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name they're gonna give to it that's
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going to be the generation after this
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assuming they don't continue to just
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read this generation backward compatible
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more powerful upgrades but within Tendo
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you never know what the hell pocket like
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they are there more of a wild-card the
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ps4 ps3 ps4 both name and and inform and
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interesting player in this field and so
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is another failed experiment but
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nevertheless the company says afloat
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based on you know a partnership with
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universal studios and so on billion iOS
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people a fairly creddie infinite runner
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recognize Mary oh they don't recognize
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Mario but not your ridiculous
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pronunciation thereof upset show back up
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this she's the only one
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intend oh and thanks for the responses
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this week zero backblaze and mail route
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because it was accidental it was
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so breaking news
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by fit which is interesting i guess i
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bought / scraped off the sidewalk
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yeah evidence but that's our dreams
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acqui-hire like they even said in the
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tweet that the pebble brand will not
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continue so the Sun setting it
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off the earth and is well below the
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fair enough but other breaking news that
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recording so shortly before that I
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kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding bags are
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oh my goodness but you did post
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something to youtube I posted something
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to youtube that's right my youtube
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account has existed for something like
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six years or something or longer even
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videos to it that none of which were
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anything substantial really got more
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videos and that my channel probably a
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yeah so I i decided to do a video review
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of the new macbook pro as kind of my
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testing the waters of being a YouTube
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person there are a number of reasons for
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this YouTube is a massive place where
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it is kind of unwise business to ignore
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such a massive place i can say anything
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about facebook and i don't have a
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presence there either and i can say the
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same thing about snapchat and I don't
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have a presence there either but i think
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i had to get into one of these things
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like you can't ignore all of them keep
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you have to be up to have a presence and
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something if you don't have to you don't
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you all just pick at least one and it
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was easier for me to turn my office into
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a video studio then to log into Facebook
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the one I chose the reason so i decided
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to start now in particular because i
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wanted to review the new macbook pro and
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i had had more thought you had briefly
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about last week by I had more thoughts
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about it then would
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fit or make sense in this podcast and
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things that I wanted to actually show in
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video or picture form there certainly
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were things that I want to actually
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write in advance so i wouldn't mess them
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up and express myself properly and i
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want to explain myself and there were
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certain like it would have felt weird to
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just monologue here for 15-20 minutes
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like about even though i do that
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sometimes accidentally but I try not to
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do that here because that's not really
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what a podcast is and that that's kind
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of not really our format here so it
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would kind of be weird if I was sitting
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here just doing all the talking with
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this big script i was reading for you
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know 20 minutes about the macbook pro
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basically i had some more things to say
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about I wanted to see them somewhere
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else ate it made sense to have some kind
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of visual components of my choices were
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either i could make a video or I could
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make a blog post and I don't feel great
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about the future of blog posts right now
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and YouTube is the kind of thing that I
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wanted to get into for quite some time
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all so much of my success in in business
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depends on a steady trickle in of new
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audience growth and i feel like i have i
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have done well with blogging in the past
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but not really so much currently I've
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done well with podcasting and done well
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with like app things but I wasn't
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expanding anywhere i wasn't getting new
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people in from anywhere I really and a
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lot of things I was doing like blogging
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we're kinda like contracting and
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podcasting is growing very very slowly
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and they feel like it will help all of
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my other things if I have someplace
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where I can reach a new audience where i
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can get new people in to the you know
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Marco folio or whatever God please kill
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me you're going to hurry up and get
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million subscribers so we can release
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our podcast on youtube with the bunch of
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stupid images in front of it and get
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millions of views so hurry up and build
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that channel i have i have thought about
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ways to do that actually I but it's
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probably gonna have anytime soon but i
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have actually thought about like doing
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ATP youtube channel because it's not and
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it's some work but it's not like a
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massive amount of work
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and we know that but it's pointless work
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until you develop your YouTube audience
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of a million people so get on that yeah
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so basically I i wanted to have some
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participation in this massive thing that
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I'd I know very little about so far like
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I feel like because of the businesses
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i'm in its almost irresponsible not to
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know about it you know and and it is you
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again like I your facebook ignore a lot
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of things that I shouldn't ignore you
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should ignore facebook
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oh yeah probably and I also i think also
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liked this also builds on skills i
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already have I already had almost
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everything almost all the equipment
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required to make videos i bought a
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little bit but you don't have you would
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love to buy exactly true got a couple
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like LED lights for like 40 bucks and
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like just a little battery powered ones
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like so i got like these two lights and
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then that was basically all i needed
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already know some things about shooting
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video not much but I know some things
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about it i know a decent amount more a
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photography and a lot of overlap and
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know about sound recording and that's
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part of video and so like I already had
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a lot of the skills and toolset
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necessary and and kind of get the
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vocabulary necessary to to do this
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it was way easier to do this then it
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would have been to figure out facebook
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or and/or to spend any time on there and
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just want to escape but anyway I really
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like facebook so i decided to do this
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much I'm going to do it but I think if
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I'm going to invest my time creating
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reviews of products i think YouTube is
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the better place for that now that my
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blog it's not necessarily less work is
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actually somewhat similar youtube I
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actually you know it's less in certain
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ways like you can you can kind of rift
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somewhat on the on the script part of it
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video you can kind of show a few quick
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things like what the product in your
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bunch of different like perfect photos
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perfect and getting all the dust specks
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there are some things that are faster
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those overalls gonna be a similar work
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taking longer who knows but ultimately i
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think it is it is the best move for my
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career right now to expand into youtube
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and also for the type for the format of
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things i do I realize like I don't even
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read people's along blog articles
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anymore about almost anything if I'm
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looking if I'm looking for product
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reviews i hardly ever read along for
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review i almost always just look for
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look at youtube for a video quickly
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review if if there's if there's a big
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review for like some new product like on
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the verge of something i will end as a
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video at the top i will almost always
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just watch the video and like maybe skip
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the article at best friends of the topic
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bail because you still read a big giant
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eight years so that's sent understand it
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really depends on the topic if you only
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video but if you really want to know if
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you're if you want to find out if the 5d
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you're going to read the whole dpreview
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thing and seven other giant reviews
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about it to try not his this you know is
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it worth buying in a way that the mark 3
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wasn't or whatever
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yeah so anyway for the most part though
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i think i and i think the numbers prove
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many other people choose to get a lot of
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information now in video rather than
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reading blog posts and there's lots of
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things about this the better i that
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obvious downsides to me you know
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videos are less capable they are locked
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this proprietary platform for the most
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part I mean yes you can put a video
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wherever you want but nobody will see if
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it is on youtube or facebook but anyway
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I'm sure if I good on facebook or just
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reboot my videos so it won't even matter
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all I will automatically be on facebook
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at you know again I don't I don't have
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like incredibly concrete plans yet i'm
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going to basically feel around do some
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experimentation see what I want to be
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so far it's gone surprisingly well this
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video took a few days worth of
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notetaking about what I wanted to say a
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day of figuring out the handful of
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things i had to buy to make this happen
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well and then I shot edited and posted
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that video entirely today so AI feel
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like if i get good enough
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it is certainly possible obviously
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everyone who's ever produced video knows
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it is very possible for video production
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to basically eat any amount of time and
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money that is given it you can go
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completely off the deep end and have
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incredible production values and people
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do and that's great i know that as as a
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what and what Mike for the my I'm that
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with microphones generally being close
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to your mouth is way way more important
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than having like a really good
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microphone that's five feet away
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you know i get if you can get any
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generally better idea then our than a
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that tomorrow but yeah so there's lots
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casual stuff already mentioned if you're
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show it to me every single time not that
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hide the mic well though
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yeah wake the dog up occasionally that's
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everything about it was fine it's just
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because the macbook was too far away
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to show me anything it's like well that
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I can't see that
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so forget it I i think what I'd like in
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the future is again a lot more b-roll
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shots like a lot more of the closest and
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everything of the computer doing doing
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things I'm talking about things that i'm
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showing again this was kind of rush at
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the end because I was trying it all done
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today and again like I I gotta find that
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you know part of the balance between
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finding out like you know what like what
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kind of style video i want to produce
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and what content should be part of that
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balance is also figured into the rest of
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my life because i'm also a podcaster and
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i'm also a software developer and i'm
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also lazy and and so had to have to find
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I i have to figure out the schedule of
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where does this project fit in my life
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how much time can i really devote to
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and again these are all things to figure
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out over time but overall I do agree
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like I think future videos will be like
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less of just me talking and more showing
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the things that i'm talking about that
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being said i was surprised how many
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responses I got already so far with
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people pointing out people who noticed
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that i made very few cuts in the video
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that is mostly just me talking with only
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a few cuts here and there a lot of
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people complimented a lot of people said
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this is kind of a relief from the more
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highly produced videos that are coming
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every four seconds like that because
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that's you know pro video usually makes
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tons of cuts like watching a movie
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trailer just cut cut cut gauges constant
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right and the kind of more amateur you
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get I think the less cuts you tend to
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make and a lot of you actually said they
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like that and again it depends again it
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is all going to depend on what what is
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what what are my goals here what I want
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to do when I say audience growth it's
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not i'm not saying i'm gonna try to do
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whatever it takes to to get 10 million
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subscribers or whatever like that would
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I don't expect that to happen I mean I
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never even had that big of an audience
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on my blog its peak so I wouldn't i
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wouldn't expect that to to happen on
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youtube but I i want to find people who
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are compatible with me and so just some
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degree i do have to kind of come on the
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terms of the medium and and do it you
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know quote correctly but also to some
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degree I don't want to like totally
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change who I am for this medium so like
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like some of the comments also pointed
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out how they were happy to see me talk
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about things that people weren't talking
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about about this machine and I think
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that's kind of because I'm a ramblin
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podcaster who wants to talk about in
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great detail that like I'm not going to
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cut out the big long section with the
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power brick that's why you can do the
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long the long sequences without cuts be
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as you are accustomed to spilling out
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your thoughts in a long sequence that's
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true without cuts essentially your it
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even the podcast like this podcast is
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edited but it's not as if you're taking
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any of our soliloquies and chopping it
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up into a thousand pieces and piecing it
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together that's not how that's not how
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that all I mean some shows are like
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about the show is not so you're used to
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doing that and whether the current
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youtube stars are using now the fact is
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they don't like they will you know two
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sentences about this cut two senses
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about this cut two cents about that
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often those cuts are because they're
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showing you the things but i think they
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didn't even say those in sequence i
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think it's a they are assembling they're
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creating it there there thing in the
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editing room for the most part which is
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yeah you know a perfectly valid way to
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work but it is not the way this podcast
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or I think even he was on top for it's
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not how that works as far as I'm able to
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tell us a listener so I think you're
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coming at it from that perspective and
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that is it that is a difference that
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