The Incomparable

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00:00:08 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast number 30 marks [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► we're back on the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► this is jason cell i remember fondly [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► growing up watching the original Star [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► Trek every single night and but this is [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► not a podcast about Captain Kirk mr. [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► Spock it is instead about in some ways [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► the most successful Star Trek TV series [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► from the late eighties and early [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► nineties when I was in high school and [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► colleges Star Trek The Next Generation a [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► show that that really existed at a time [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► when there wasn't a lot of sci-fi on TV [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► it was one of the first popular [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► syndicated drama series it's sort of [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► broken new ground there and became [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► extremely popular at a time when there [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► were a lot of us I shows on TV at all so [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► I think it kind of gets lost when we [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► look back because there's such a glut of [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► sci-fi on TV now and for the last decade [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► and I think people don't necessarily [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► think about the next generation so we're [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► going to talk about it so it's a little [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► bit of a retro incomparable classic or [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► as my wife said before we begin [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► recording this podcast oh you're being [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► timely yes so joining me here to talk [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► about to talk about the ladies in the [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► early nineties i have a delightful [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► collection of guests joining me [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► Lisa Schmeisser is here hi Lisa hi also [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► joining us Dan Moore and Dan hello hi [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► Jason are you great glen fleischmann [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► hello there hello and Scott McNulty [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► hello hello so so so next generation I [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► guess what i want to start with his way [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► what you guys were doing when you [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► started watching Star Trek The Next [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► Generation did you watch it when it was [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► first on we in high school or college or [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► something like that [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► my oldest person on the podcast out i'm [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► 43 my the oldest yes I win you will haha [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► i watch to college with undergrads and [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► everyone hated the first season but we [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► still made it through and watch that we [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► were so desperate for entertainment [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► those days before the computers i [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► watched in nursery school haha [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► they said you're in high school right [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► yeah i started i started watching high [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► school my dad I had watched the original [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► series or sent the reruns of the [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► original series so i started watching [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► high school I didn't watch TV in college [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► because I went through a kill your TV [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► phase and then I resumed watching it [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► right as it ended once i was a graduate [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► school so alright that is that is my [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► briefs to and what about you Scott i [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► started watching it in grammar school [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► and then I watched throughout my high [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► school you see this really seriously [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► yeah how young are you [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► oh no really I I am 34 [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► wow you're a youngster grammar grammar [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► school [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► how did your mother so you can step to [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► record this podcast fellow and Danny's [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► younger than I am [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► dad was watching it in diapers and did [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► you watch Star Trek The Next Generation [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► when it was initially on or did you [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► bought passage by is that does not [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► explain your bitterness and hostility [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► toward your hatred for Jean Luc Picard I [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► he's French that says enough for me [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► oh alright guys i'm at the English kind [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► of French he is very is very English [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► French i came i think it'd be later [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► seasons were still airing and it went [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► off the air in 94 anymore [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► yeah i was so I watched the last few [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► years i think um maybe seasons five [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► through seven or so pretty regularly but [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► I be local station in my area set in [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► syndication so it was on like everything [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► every weeknight and so i think when i [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► stumbled upon it when I which again was [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► probably in 10 maybe something like [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► 1990-91 because my cousin showed me some [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► episodes and it seems a huge star trek [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► and I think I sort of started watching [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► all the syndication episodes then and [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► then later put in you know start [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► watching it was on the air so you're six [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► years old when it first season aired all [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► 87 sick [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► yeah okay I wouldn't seven so alongside [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► haha i was i was saying this to somebody [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► the other week I I for me the next [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► generation the seven years that was on [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► brackets i think one of the most notable [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► periods in my life because it premiered [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► when I was a senior in high school [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► and it went off the air when I in the [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► spring of 94 where I was living with my [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► future wife in berkeley finishing I was [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► actually just graduated from grad school [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► and was working at my first full-time [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► job so i went from being a kid in high [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► school to being basically an adult over [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► those seven years that Captain Picard [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► and Rikers beard were out there solving [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► interstellar crimes [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► that's a much better coming-of-age TV [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► series know when I associate with that [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► period for me which was Beverly Hills [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► 90210 right which is itself had its own [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► next generation later yeah I will watch [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► that that's just terrible and I didn't [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► like a Love Boat the next generation [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► also the next game Robert Urich Robert [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► your that's right it was the next wave [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► just wave so so I you know we could talk [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► we go to a lot of different directions [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► here I thought it was interesting as we [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► were about to press the record button [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► button somebody mentioned the season one [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► was was terrible I i guess one of the [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► interesting things about the next [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► generation is that when it started out [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► Gene Roddenberry was very much in [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► control it was also the they hadn't they [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► really didn't know what they were gonna [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► do it was a new thing [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► how are they going to build it that they [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► you know it was this non-network [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► syndicated show they did 26 episodes a [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► year which is actually a lot now but but [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► they needed them because that was half [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► of a year's worth and so they could do [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► they could fill a year with 26 new ones [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► and then 26 repeats so you know that [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► first year I remember at the time [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► thinking hey this is pretty good and I [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► and then I realized like a couple years [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► later [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► oh no it was terrible now and we just [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► watch the season i watched the season [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► one finale the neutral zone which is one [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► of the better episodes of that year was [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► about to say is you can totally tell [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► it's a writ that Gene Roddenberry is [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► still very much in charge because the [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► whole premise of the episode is that the [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► enterprise runs across three people from [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► the 20th century who have been [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► cryogenically excuse me cryonically [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► frozen and they thought them out and the [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► entire episode is about these people and [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► how awful they are you know all the what [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► do you mean you guys don't watch TV in [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► the future what do you mean there's no [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► money in the future and why don't you [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► guys take drugs and partying rock and [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► roll and and [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► and picard and the rest of the crew [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► walkthrough with you sanctimonious [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► expressions that will you see we now [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► have these greater purposes we're [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► dedicated to exploration and bettering [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► ourselves and elevating the [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► understanding of the world around us and [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► that the fact that there was this diet [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► that the fact that well your petty [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► concerns like currency and entertainment [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► free time and I thought yeah this is [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► this is the typical that this is the [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► stuff that I think kind of hampers the [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► star trek universe because right when [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► when running was in charge she basically [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► said you can see how the babies with her [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► friend would be great man if people [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► didn't have religion and money and Lord [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► Brahma have the end and he tried to be [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► no sin to to the next generation and it [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► just died i think it actually really [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► limits the storytelling because if you [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► are going to have an entity that is [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► large enough to keep flinging you you [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► know vast crews of people into space [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► we're perpetually getting lost or killed [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► you're going to have to have a culture [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► that's based on some some when [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► allocating resources efficiently and [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► unfortunately my market with currencies [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► a good way to do that and incident as [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► well we're all going to band together [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► and go answer questions because that's [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► what enlightened people do and and have [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► you ever really looked at your hands [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► before and it's in many ways the show I [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► think only really got good when [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► Roddenberry took a step back and the [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► liquor they turned over the creative I [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► mean it's not that the people who were [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► on the show the first year or two or bad [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► because actually there's some really [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► town people including some of the [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► original Star Trek writers I think it's [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► just a heavy hand Roddenberry just [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► killed a lot of something lots of [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► stories about him saying no we can't [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► have conflict you know the people need [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► to be perfect and that goes back to the [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► original star trek into the same way you [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► know Harlan Ellison stories yet had a [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► hot like drama i know on phone oh it [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► yeah it's and you can see especially in [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► that first season that there there it's [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► very difficult there and there is no [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► it's a happy crew and there's not a lot [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► of internal conflict and I do think [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► that's actually one of the reasons my [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► favorite episode from that first year is [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► the big goodbye which is a holodeck [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► episode [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► yeah you know the fact is it was it was [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► like the escape because they could say [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► well it's Picard in a detective noir and [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► it's the trappings of drama but it's all [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► ok because it's just pretend [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► and that was their escape and I point [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► out written by mel torme son crazy Torme [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► who went on to create sliders by the way [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► so that's just another fine [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► science-fiction series that will be the [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► next podcasts like a lot lighter tell me [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► another cat lighters by guess Josh [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► Malina had a guest on sliders I guess we [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► have to talk about and and it's the [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► freaking out and breathe in alloy yeah [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► yeah it's terrible things to her [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► characters on splatters I really hate [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► the way they ended it when I can't [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► believe we're talking about slept ok so [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► episodes have it so the thing is i was [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► reviewing the episode list for season [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► one and I realized I think of it as a [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► like an extra couple season the [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► lieutenant yar is captured by evil black [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► people episode that was my favorite won [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► the West leads Wesley steps on the [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► flower is condemned yeah so don't worry [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► about what's don't forget the the [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► bizarre introduction of the Ferengi who [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► are who are totally unlike anything that [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► they go on to be definite the bizarre [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► introduction of the type of deanna trees [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► hairstyles i just have every she was so [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► poorly [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► not that I'm a huge tour defender but [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► she was so poorly served at first season [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► because they just putting these [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► escalating ridiculous outfits and her [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► job was to come in and say something [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► blindingly obvious then blocked off [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► screen again and I sense hostility [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► I sense great joy and happiness I sense [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► he's hiding something [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► he's looking for validation captain [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► can't you understand what he insist on [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► standard the first season though when [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► you look through the episode list and [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► I'd forgotten this it did actually set a [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► lot of the plot elements for all the [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► ones that followed like there we had [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► really like a lot of the most [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► interesting stuff that happened like wil [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► Wheaton's character Wesley Crusher who [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► is so you know x coordinate will witness [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► the is the greatest geek in the world [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► today and service created in his time [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► and they're all these terrible episode [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► with him in which he had a i'll be so [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► cringy awful but it set the stage for [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► his character being his being the next [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► evolution of man accuses the very first [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► episode and comes back the hope that [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► they're making homemade better things [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► out of some of that style but it was [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► years datas long-lost brother the other [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► robot lower appear or [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► yes the was a crystalline entity the but [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► I mean a lot of stuff you can wear the [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► killer snowflake you mean your snowflake [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► and at least they killed Tasha Yar it's [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► like what can you make with your cgi [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► systems we could make a really [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► good-looking snowflake then let you make [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► it so that's what is evil make it a [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► murderous snowflake [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► ah laksana Troy good character that [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► locks on the train well one of my [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► favorite episodes menasha try precisely [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► because Roxanna Roxanna takes it was a [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► great title for one thing [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► yeah yeah roxanna's fantastic especially [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► and their nose that wonderful scene at [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► the end where you know they find them to [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► convey to Picard that the way to get get [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► her back from the frankie is if the the [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► the Frank you think they're about to get [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► killed and Picard breaks out the [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► shakespeare and just goes to town and I [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► it all it's just it's a fantastically [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► communicate was brought up the Ferengi a [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► couple of times I think that I to get [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► back to something that I think dan may [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► be mentioned in the introduction of the [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► frig is fascinating because at the time [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► that the Frankie were meant to be the [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► Klingons of the new series they were [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► going to be the recurring villain and [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► after one episode they realize there was [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► no way they could do it because they [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► were ridiculous i'm just amazed the ADL [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► didn't let go after the show because the [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► dome is God [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► yeah it's no it'sit's you know Phil is [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► not a sci-fi personal and he wandered in [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► when i was in the middle of my next [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► generation marathon watching during [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► maternity is your husband [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► yes and he's like so the Ferengi are the [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► Jews of the Starfleet right i remember [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► first watching and being just appalled [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► like every Jewish stereotype like [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► because there's no Jewish writers in [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► Hollywood of course they never found [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► this gotta be Jewish stereotype is [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► trying to become not just facial [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► features over there avaricious they're [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► like slavery after the pretty women and [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► they had this like they have these [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► strict orthodoxies and they've got the [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► reform Ferengi and if it's just I don't [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► know I always enjoyed their development [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► and later in later seasons in series [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► especially benefit space nitride-based [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► I'm very differently [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► I have so much more depth there and [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► onions yeah Andy space-time because by [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► that point you've got them going to just [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► to Starfleet Academy and get you through [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► they've turned them into one more than a [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► more fully formed races at work but in [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► with the next generation its i can get [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► it for you wholesale dilithium rods and [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► you just hold deep space nine there was [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► a Ferengi a main Frankie character so [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► there were no you know I next-generation [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► there were not many [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► well I mean so in deep space nine did [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► with the Ferengi what next generation [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► did with the Klingons right like going [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► on the verge of strategies in the [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► original Star Trek series mtng you know [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► you put a Klingon the bridge [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► automatically you know [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► wow this is not like the show that we [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► used to watch and the Klingons become [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► hugely rich culture and I think you know [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► those are some of the episodes that i [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► enjoy i guess like you know looking back [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► on it where some of the ones where you [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► sort of delve into that culture and [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► especially Worf Worf is one of my [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► characters who develops the most in the [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► course of the series right and then [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► moves on to deep space 9 i'll write more [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► and more who went on to make a name for [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► himself doing battlestar galactica that [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► was how he basically I mean he his spec [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► script that got him higher was not a [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► Klingon episode but his first I think [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► script after that and then thereafter he [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► became the go-to guy for the Klingons [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► and really did make a potentially kind [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► of stock villainous rates you know other [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► than wharf and really kind of started to [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► flesh them out through wharf and also [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► through his interaction with the others [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► and that was when I started noticing his [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► name in the credits was like Ron Moore [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► he's the Klingon guy he any degree he [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► just ripped off a bunch of great [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► episodes I think starting in the third [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► season [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► yes sins of the father wharfe goes to [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► prove his father's innocence yeah yes I [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► really got it [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► they stretch that out of a couple that [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► was a great source of dramatic tension [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► and well it was one of the few things [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► where they did that it affected [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► everything that Wharf is one of the few [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► things that has a lasting impact over [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► the course of the series which a lot of [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► things don't I also a big fan of Zeno [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► law so getting to see the Klingon law [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► system was really important to me [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► yeah that's good go ahead well who [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► doesn't who doesn't see it a lot in Star [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► Trek six the Klingon lawyer who defends [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► Captain Kirk Earl Warren is it work [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► that played by Michael this is his [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► grandfather as I recall that's right [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► yes yes yes indeed so now bat backing up [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► a little bit that one of the things [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► about the second season of on to the [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► next generation [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► yes so so so there's a fired Beverly [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► Crusher because gene roddenberry didn't [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► like her I don't even know why because [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► she was like totally hot and I I'll [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► second that x fill the third that for [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► you every time dr. every doctor doctor [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► that's correct sounds great way they [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► replace her with Diana mold are as dr. [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► plasma down mold or good actress she was [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► she was in LA Law she was actually the [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► original Star Trek and she was actually [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► kind of a hottie when she was in the [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► original star trek xi and Captain Kirk [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► had a little thing going on as did every [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► male or female character on the realest [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► Roderick and so there's that meant and [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► what from the the backstory perspective [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► season two [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► there was a writer strike and and the [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► show didn't get on the air for like [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► three months and when it did they were [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► these episodes that had at were [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► literally dusted off [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► I mean there was dust on them they were [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► they were scripts for the star trek [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► phase two series which was going to be [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► in which they didn't do instead of doing [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► Star Trek the motion picture and other [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► when they were so much so terrible so [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► that that season was like this entering [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► interesting thing where they were really [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► trying to get their bearings it was much [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► better than the first season but it's [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► very hard to to really say that next [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► generation came into its own until if [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► its third year which is kind of amazing [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► it's you know that they were they were a [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► good 50 episodes in before they really [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► figured it out that would never happen [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► no will never happen to have never [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► pulled this one out yet no show would [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► get on there long enough what you think [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► about it for me it was when they did the [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► episode q Who which introduced the board [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► which is basically q appearing and [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► saying you guys are far too comfortable [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► i'm going to screw this up for you [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► here's the board they're really scary [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► and now they know about you and they're [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► gonna come and get you by and for me [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► that was like the moment was like all [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► right now we got something and that that [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► really was what turned it around [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► another great episode from that season [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► was was actually a spec script which was [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► Melinda Snodgrass's a sci-fi writer [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► wrote this episode called the measure of [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► a man [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► which had no budget because they were [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► like it was all standing sets and it was [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► speaking of Zeno why was a courtroom [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► drama about whether data was about a [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► sentient being or not which is a great [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► episode [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► yeah i was very good there's that [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► there's that bet great britain that bit [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► in that episode where they pull out the [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► Holograms data you know there's this [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► holiday how about ahsha our former you [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► know that are late security officer [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► why do you have this is like well you [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► know we're friends like what we had a an [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► intimate relationship like oh ma it's [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► actually family function that episode [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► and the episode yesterday's enterprise [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► where where there's the the alternate [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► timeline with tasha it and a few others [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► there are a few other cases where it [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► turns out that the death of Tasha Yar as [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► ridiculous as it was incinerated [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► reverberates through the Syrian and NS [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► as kind of questionable character she [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► was it's not the worst thing that they [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► killed her off but but the ramifications [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► of her death they actually handled well [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► better than the death itself [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► she was better dead if yes when the [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► series finale one of one of the nicest [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► touches in the series finale is when the [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► carnage time shifting through all those [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► different realities and he's got to have [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► them converge and he's trying to work [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► with Tasha Yar and every time he looks [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► at you can tell he's thinking that he [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► wants to say things to her and he wants [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► to try to drink it in because he knows [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► that she's dead and he's heroically [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► restraining himself and it's it's it's [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► it's a tremendously affecting sequence [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► we can't you can't break the temporal [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► project and that would have been made [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► possible if she'd stayed alive the whole [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► way through i mean there's more emotion [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► with the way he regards her it was [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► really nice to have that element of the [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► you know something that had a lasting [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► impact I think that's one of my my [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► complaints about TNG is that there it [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► felt like there were so few things that [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► seem to have a lasting impact from [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► episode to episode like it would be [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► priced the reasons before before the [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► trend of having see realized storylines [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► I always loved those episodes though in [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► which they either brought back a [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► familiar character whether it be you [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► know wax on Troy your cue or whatever a [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► large works girlfriend that was our all [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► or [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► for Alexander the later seasons and then [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► episodes like no I were kind of like [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► it's kind of like the tiger mother 20 [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► years early i mean i like Wars parents [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► more than I like Alexander OS but I mean [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► horrible [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► yeah well i mean but i like I felt that [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► there was a reward in their right and [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► like something like and so even when you [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► have the cliffhangers from the later [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► seasons to like the best of both worlds [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► you know those were things i really [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► enjoyed where it's like there's [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► something at stake here right [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► I don't have that like oh I'm sure [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► everything's gonna be fine not by next [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► week you know will solve this problem in [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► 15 minutes [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► I watched a lot of the next generation [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► on through january when i was still on [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► maternity leave because mom my daughter [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► wouldn't go to sleep in the crib and so [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► I would hold her for I would hold her [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► for naps and things like that and I'd [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► watch and I'd watch the next generation [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► while she was asleep Will Riker will [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► soothe you to sleep baby oh my god more [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► left [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► I don't do not get one of my one of my [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► cousin's daughter's when she was like [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► three or something like her parents are [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► avid Trek fans and she walked into the [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► room and like one of her like early [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► words with tar Trek Star Trek in memory [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► of Tasha Yar but one of the things that [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► so striking is start is star trek the [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► next generation is just such a product [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► of of its of the time of its creation [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► and I thought wow you know for sure that [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► supposed to be set a couple centuries in [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► the future [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► it really is pretty firmly fixed in the [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► late 1980s early nineteen nineties in [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► terms of the future is going to be like [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► in terms of aesthetics in terms of [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► sensibility and I recognize that part of [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► the problem with aesthetics comes down [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► to budgetary limitations and technology [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► limitations because i'm sure we can [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► offer one incorporating cgi was like a [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► huge deal on Babylon 5 [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► right right that it was all along it was [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► all model work not much more advanced [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► than what they had in the sixties right [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► because you had the enterprise going [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► like in every episode was don't forget [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► it was just me was also just the look of [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► it was very brightly lit and optimistic [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► and they're willing to much [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► serialization and it was a very end and [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► that goes back to the fact that when [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► they were building the sets and coming [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► up with the aesthetic Gene Roddenberry [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► was there saying the future is great [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► everybody loves everybody else analogy [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► to show Syria and in the future no one [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► needs wet wipes in the future yeah it is [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► it's not it's not a very complicated [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► future and that that never stopped right [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► with me because I because I just kept [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► the key you're gonna keep running into [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► into civilization after civilization [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► after civilization you're going to tell [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► me that you're not going to find a [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► planet that insist on absolute morality [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► and can't handle the cultural relativism [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► that the Federation is based on and [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► you're and you're going to tell me think [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► about the traumatic episode 2 like how [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► long did it take for them to get to a [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► point with a universal translator failed [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► and you have a culture that I mean that [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► I think that was a child and her son has [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► isolated 102 is how long it took them [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► 502 and that is one of the that is one [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► of the things like Darmok it's called [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► right episode season five and that is [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► one of the one of the few times in the [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► series when they did something even [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► though i like the show as a whole and i [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► watched it fairly religiously is um I [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► thought they did something totally [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► unexpected i watched it when holy cow [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► they're doing hard sigh finally ok what [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► I'm going to use this as an excuse to go [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► around the room and see if everybody's [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► got an episode they want to single out [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► as one of their favorites and i'll do [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► that because my favorite Star Trek [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► episode is Darmok I'm by jovanovski [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► which is that that is that is it by a [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► mile my favorite episode because it's [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► about having to communicate and the [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► translator not working and having to [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► understand with metaphors and you know [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► their steaks and Picard is alone and and [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► then he joins up with this alien captain [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► is your friends UFO there's a beast a [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► monster that's trying to kill them there [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► you know the captain doesn't make it out [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► alive so there's there's really a some [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► serious you know sadness and I real high [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► stakes kind of thing happening and yeah [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► so for me that episode is absolutely the [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► pinnacle of that what what they did so [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► that's my favorite and pollen feel does [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► not have a good rep you know a good [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► restaurant run are you in Star Trek yeah [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► was that he's always dying that's right [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► because he was he was captain Darrell [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► instructor to take what creatures in our [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► bodies [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► it made us say lies will start to [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► podcast is coming but oh my god you know [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► I was traumatized by that scene 4 year [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► made us realize do things but I laughter [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► that's going on the ear he was [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► are you yeah oh poor check off screams [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► again star trek do all he does this [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► creep any other any other favorite [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► episodes out there now that I've [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► professed my love for glare mark [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► enchilada to Naga haha i love that um [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► just ok everybody could just okay with [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► me haha that's the best you know I'm [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► gonna I'm gonna throw a weird one [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► because i figured with somebody because [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► you mentioned German Oscars how to look [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► at another episode I'm gonna throw out [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► mass oh man I knew you were gonna do [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► that because that one not have other [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► episodes that content fast masks was [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► again with the experimental final season [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► of next-generation said ya was like it [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► was a little bit like I'm not saying it [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► was the best episode [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► oh no it's the epicenter bright spider [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► gets to chew the scenery by channeling [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► all these different personalities but [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► you're including like an ancient [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► fertility goddess who also kills and oh [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► yeah but the reason I think you liked [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► that episode and I'm not surprised that [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► you like it is that that episode is [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► definitely like something that could be [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► you could write whole dissertations [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► about because it is like jovanovski kind [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► of discouraging myth in just myth [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► figures into and the meaning of myth and [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► why we have myths and just pouring out [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► of here but that was it and it may be [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► more inclined to think about them maybe [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► to watch it's his Joseph Campbell [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► episode clearly rights it's his it's his [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► star wars telling but I I like I'm not [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► going to side i'm picking an oddball one [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► because i forgot about mass until just [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► looking upstairs like I would you [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► normally I would say the inner light [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► everyone's gonna pick a night so I'm [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► gonna take that what I'm taking masks [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► because masks again you're watching a [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► show on mainstream television and [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► they're doing something that is almost [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► in comprehensively strange and their [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► packaging it in this science-fiction [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► rapper while telling a bigger story and [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► I've always had a soft spot for brent [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► Spiner don't think is a fabulous actor [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► but I think he's some amenities like you [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► know it's great like like I think about [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► on afterwards patrick stewart for [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► instance right but I mean and also many [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► guest stars it had the show or just [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► really fantastic but I've always liked [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► brent Spiner is total commitment to what [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► he's doing and so I i like that episode [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► quite a bit and now you know despite the [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► fact that i'm not the hugest eng fan I [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► was like going over my list and liking [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► it a lot of really good episodes [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► that's right here that I do like I'm I [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► I might pick lower decks from season [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► seven oh that was my life is good which [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► is which is a really good episode about [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► final war basically one of those [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► episodes like let's ignore the entire [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► main cast for most of the episode and [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► focus on these younger officers on there [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► but again it was an episode where there [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► was something at stake [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► oh and there's something they kill ya [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► someone dies and is and yeah and it's [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► it's kind of it I enjoyed that there was [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► a like there was an episode with with [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► drama and and steaks there and i think [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► that would and in getting that [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► perspective i love the protective ship [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► but we talked about that about Buffy [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► about the episode the sepo where yeah [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► it's just you're following sander and [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► his random adventures and everything [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► else in the plot happens in the [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► background the lower decks is that same [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► way worse because you wonder like well [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► there's hundreds of people on this ship [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► right right like and like we never hear [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► about like you see the people like I had [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► a pad to somebody or like they get shot [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► if they're you know a security officer [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► whatever but you never get stories from [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► any of them and so I i really enjoyed [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► that love that you have the stories by [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► the way at least we can talk about [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► everything that they got wrong but they [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► nailed the ipad yeah that's true to 200 [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► years our lady elected nail the only [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► thing they didn't get right is the fact [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► that they thought of pads discreet so [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► you can have a stack of pads or four [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► different paths that were pre-programmed [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► people didn't have tablets that were [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► associated specifically with them needed [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► maps I will see to that we have a pad [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► app store during the back of Kindles [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► next to me soon maybe a writer that you [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► have done volume yeah alright those are [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► good choices [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► Lisa the masterpiece Society wow its [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► feet well okay great great title one of [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► the things that I always thought about [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► TNG that I was sad about was that they [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► didn't have as many good titles that [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► original Star Trek at these crazy like [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► Shakespeare on the edge of titles and I [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► for the world is hollow and I've touched [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► the sky and and whereas next generation [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► had episodes like ethnic background and [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► Rome you know it's just like that you [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► know episode is dictionary word but that [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► one was a great with the masterpiece [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► Society which is like the society in a [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► bottle [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► yes and it's one of the few episodes for [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► Deanna Troi is is not completely useless [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► right so I wasn't annoyed about that [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► which which of course vaulted with me [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► the others the actually makes horrible [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► ethical breaches of that episode that [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► delightful but the thing I love about is [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► how Jordan posters stuff the street I if [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► you'll pardon me for being up and he's [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► dealing with this brilliant scientist [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► and she's all we would have never [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► thought about this and George's like [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► well you would have thought about it [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► because I thought about it and I'm blind [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► and I would have been aborted and never [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► allowed to exist in your society [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► am I right yes yes you were right [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► awkward that is why Georgia is my [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► favorite character just like the fact [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► that he gets short shrift to the entire [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► damn series but it is y over his eyes i [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► know for Barbie the happy-go-lucky [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► cheery cheery guy and his girlfriend is [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► a hologram [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► well among haha the hologram girl us I [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► mean hologram I as it as well as a [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► biologist that as a biologist the [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► science behind masterpiece Society [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► doesn't doesn't hold up at all because [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► they're always we've planted society out [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► for successive generations and it's all [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► the genetics interlocking blah blah blah [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► i kept thinking about that's not how [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► population genetics works alright but it [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► makes that social point about the fact [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► that they've created this locked off [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► society has this rigid role that they're [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► born two and one of the characters [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► points out that having to come into [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► contact with with forces beyond their [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► control and and people who are [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► completely random has forced him to [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► question the integrity of their other [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► society and has forced them to question [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► whether it's really a same way to live [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► if you are born saying oh you were [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► engineered to be a leader or your [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► engineer to be a brilliant scientist [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► this is your role go forth and flourish [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► i just saw that episode recently it's [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► funny and and one of the things that [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► struck me about it is that the original [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► Star Trek that would have been a story [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► where Captain Kirk happens on this [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► planet and says you people are crazy i'm [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► going to ruin everything you would [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► understand everyone must live their own [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► lives in the way that's intended for [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► them to live and then he would create a [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► logical fallacy in the computer that [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► controls the entire society where mode [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► and then they believe right to let me in [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► this episode we'll see you later the [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► nice tiger has [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► that's why i love that that's actually [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► that episode the taste of Armageddon [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► this one my favorite original Star Trek [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► episodes for that reason works like this [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► is this is best up i'm going to break [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► everything in and little relieved by you [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► have prime directive kill yourselves or [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► not but I'm going so masterpiece Society [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► is basically an intractable problem that [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► the enterprise doesn't cause it but then [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► their presence is there and they're like [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► well we gotta do something and they and [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► and there are no good solutions which is [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► great because they're right in the [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► middle of it they're like what we do [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► where kevin kirby like haha you actually [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► see them really fret over Picard is [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► really torn [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► Scott do you have a favorite i do have a [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► favorite and I like it more because of [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► the character that is the central [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► driving force than the actual episode [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► itself the nth degree which mostly [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► original Barkley who is working with my [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► favorite character instructor [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► organization AKA is no howling continues [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► howling mad Murdock guess it was another [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► jovanovski episode and i love that [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► episode 2 and I think it gets short [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► shrift among all that kind of reg [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► Barclay episode but you know what [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► starkly is all of us that's why we love [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► Him were all that's true because [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► everyone starts with a next generation [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► especially on the enterprise because [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► it's the flagship of the Federation that [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► are like the cream of the crop [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► yeah everyone's perfect invention Rodney [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► exactly the screwed-up is a little [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► insecure he likes to go to the whole [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► deck and have the bridge crew in his [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► fantasies spent I and nef degree he [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► becomes becomes super intelligent [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► intelligent and and finds that the [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► enterprise's computer is to slow so he [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► hooks his brain into the the enterprise [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► and takes over so they can solve this [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► problem which I don't think he end up [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► solving but no happens it's actually a [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► like a Trojan horse to get them to [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► transport to there's an alien race and [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► that that doesn't travel they just send [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► out these probes that may be smart and [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► then they open wormholes the United [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► kinda yeah and they say hey welcome [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► let's talk laziest race oh yeah it's the [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► s very advanced but very lazy [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► they're not good travelers they prefer [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► their home box settles on the stomach a [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► little yeah you have a second favorite [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► up to say go ahead because [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► this format is is over and i also have a [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► second favorite everything again with [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► the others [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► there's like 7,000 episodes does anyone [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► remember the survivors the man and his [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► wife found a planet the rest of the [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► planets been destroyed yeah yeah yeah [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► this is a beautiful episode is a [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► beautifully constructed episode because [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► it is a mystery introduction a [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► successful mr. you can't figure it out [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► of the first watching it ends with [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► something so chilling that i can recite [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► you know part of it because it it was it [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► really affected me so the plot of the [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► the survivors is a third season episode [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► in fact so early but very thoughtful [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► they come to this planet the whole [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► planet is completely burned out except [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► for one house and there's a guy there is [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► Wi-Fi they claim because they refuse to [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► fight against some alien race they were [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► spared and the aliens destroy the rest [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► of the planet because people resisted in [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► and they feel bad whatever in somewhere [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► along the line then like but go on your [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► way we're fine here we have enough [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► supplies for the rest of our lives see [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► you later and the enterprise's like well [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► I guess there's nothing we can do will [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► put an APB for this alien race and at [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► some point that they think something's [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► wrong so they keep sticking around in [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► Troy gets her mind jam by the music box [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► just to get put in a coma and try to [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► feel what the hell goes on so finally [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► turns out the guy is actually q style [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► super powerful alien and his wife is a [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► projection that the solving the mystery [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► is finally Picard says your wife doesn't [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► really exist does she and she says what [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► are you talking about thousands i'm [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► sorry you're not really here everyone [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► went to fight including the wife [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► everyone's killed except the guy and [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► he's so angry and he's so all powerful [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► this is the thing that showed me is so [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► he's like he's like so I killed them all [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► and Picard says what do you mean you [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► killed everybody on the spaceship is [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► like no I killed the entire race 4 [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► billion beings everywhere they existed [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► in the universe I killed them all and [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► they also to say this is committed [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► beyond our ability to judge like you [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► have torture yourself we gotta go wait [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► in setting up there is a computer would [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► be [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► to mess up you guys gonna go to a logic [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► test livejournal you might want to check [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► out the hair who look at that Syrian [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► just glad I'm glad you brought that up [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► that period that's beginning of the [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► third season that is when they kicked [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► into gear because if you look at those [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► first few episodes the first episode is [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► evolution which I people don't like it's [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► got wesleyan nanites in it but ken [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► Jenkins who was later on scrubs is in [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► that and he's this kind of baseball [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► obsessed astrophysicist who is kind of [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► this is his only shot at glory and he's [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► afraid it's going to go badly and i love [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► that episode I think that he Jenkins [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► performance is actually really good and [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► he's annoying and people don't like him [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► because he's annoying but I think it's a [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► really human character and performance [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► of a guy who knows he's being a jerk but [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► is so desperate because he knows this is [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► his only chance and that's followed up [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► by an episode called instance of command [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► which is basically a great data episode [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► where he gets stuck on a planet by [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► himself have to try to get these people [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► to evacuate their their their homeland [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► or they're all gonna die and that's a [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► wonderful episode then there's the [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► survivors and then the episode after [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► that is the one with Ray wise from Twin [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► Peaks which is who watches the Watchers [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► which is where they break the prime [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► directive by accident because they're [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► observing primitive people and they they [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► like think the card is a God and they [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► try to beam them up to the and it just [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► keeps getting worse and worse and that [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► the contamination gets worse than those [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► four episodes you know i remember [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► watching those four episodes of saying [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► wow I i thought the first season was [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► kind of good it was terrible compared to [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► this and that's when they got it i think [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► that's right in that little collection [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► of episodes they had the good uniforms [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► and the good universe with the college [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► party in three [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► yeah yeah that was with those the [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► episode was at the we don't have a [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► gentler costumes down episode season [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► yes that's right on the button to [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► preserve the others crazy whatever that [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► something yeah they drove the actors [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► crazy because they talked about it all [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► the time like oh my god when they [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► finally got us out of his terrible for [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► every time we see it up [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► yeah that was that was a draw more came [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► on and and had his first trip there and [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► that was when it all it all came [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► together right right around then so i [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► think that's that's a great episode and [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► it is chilling that 15 did something [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► similar weather is a disease that wiped [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► out an entire race weekend [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► and and that's one of my favorite [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► episodes of Babylon 5 that same reason [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► it is it goes to a deep dark place that [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► you don't see a lot of stuff go and and [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► that only sci-fi can really take you [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► there i think to make that to really [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► think about ultimate kind of genocide [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► and how horrific it is so and if you [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► play the Star Trek The Next Generation [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► collectible card game Kevin Oxbridge the [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► Kevin Oxbridge card is very wins he does [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► he just want everybody to be nice yeah [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► tap him to destroy every other card in [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► the game but that's right but only when [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► you kill his wife other other favorite [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► store I guess second favorite episodes i [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► would i would throw it I guess maybe [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► this is kind of like you know maybe a [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► little bit obvious but I went throughout [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► all good things because its leaders and [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► I think I create a great capital one of [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► the best it's hard but now we're serious [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► for those finales that I've ever seen to [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► be i agree well excellent series caprica [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► they're gonna be really hard to do [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► without like they didn't screw up the [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► format i like that data turns into crazy [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► cannon what they're not there they're [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► not it's not like it's a big event right [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► i mean that's one of the great things [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► about this there's a lot going on it's a [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► spectacular story but it's not like the [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► enterprise is reached the end of its [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► voyage and everybody's saying goodbye [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► it's not that now [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► no its you got your cute comes back you [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► got Geordie in the future with realize [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► you've got the enterprise that flies in [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► three dimensions which is migrating [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► foreign aid the Irish show also a very [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► good card in the custody bacardi [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► features Deanna they've killed off [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► deanna troi inexplicably which I i and [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► and and all that every crime writers [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► always cold bitter right yeah see that's [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► great i love that i like you and records [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► bitter it's my feathers on ship and she [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► dresses down [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► that's higher too so you never do that [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► I'm like really and I was going to do [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► and he's kind of like everyone thinks [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► he's crazy right [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► he's like yeah it seems in space because [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► you crazy fear because yeah yeah it's a [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► fantastic episode because he had gone to [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► 10 Divine's and next thing you know he's [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► busy Colin chips and and babbling about [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► alternate timelines and people like [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► whatever whatever old man it was Don [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► Quijote I do have a have a jonathan [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► frakes connection [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► really other than my beard is up i went [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► to my college Lehigh University and I [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► was an English major and so you need to [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► have an academic advisor my academic [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► advisor was javaserver knows professor [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► freaks and I thought that's odd [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► and I went to his office and he had a [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► giant cutout jonathan frakes in his [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► office because professor Frakes don't on [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► jonathan frakes the father wasn't much [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► better if it was copper pipe it was not [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► his dad there would be much better if [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► you did have a cutout of jonathan frakes [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► just as a guy right [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► it was it was a Riker cut out and is [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► that look around the brakes with a cup [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► of coffee and a script a little baseball [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► cap a little science is it had a little [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► sign on it that said hi pop which I [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► thought was sweet that is sweet [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► yeah i mean i think the character Rikers [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► a big mobile block of cheese but i have [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► no complaints whatsoever about John [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► about reichert Rikers one of those i [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► mean i think what writer was [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► specifically I don't like a response [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► well it was a response to the fact that [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► they got a lot of criticism for the fact [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► that Captain Kirk you know was the [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► captain of the ship and very important [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► and yet he was always out there doing [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► the most dangerous things and so the [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► response was to sort of split into the [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► older kind of authority figure Captain [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► Picard and and the younger kind of [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► headstrong Kirk like character who [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► especially that first season is very [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► correct like who is who is who is Riker [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► the problem is that you know first off [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► the original star trek with Kirk doing [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► all those things [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► it worked and second for drama I mean [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► how can you not have no cards not going [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► to sit on the bridge and you get you got [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► Patrick Stewart how are you going to not [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► use him and so in the end it's like okay [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► then what is Riker for yes that's a [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► question we all live here we can all ask [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► ourselves what is record for he plays [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► the trombone [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► what is the name of the episode where he [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► thinks that he's aged 16 years and lost [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► his memory turns out to be answered [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► ecolution future imperfect which is also [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► one of my favorites and then you're [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► perfect [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► yeah and i like it i also like it [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► because he's very compassionate towards [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► the person that the child who has done [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► it towards i mean if if anybody else had [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► been like okay you tried to momento me [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► for for--why [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► they might be tempted to smack the kid [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► around a little bit and use in cities [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► like oh you poor lonely because in the [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► future and let me take you back yes [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► that's right hehe is a memento which [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► wasn't made one of the stronger you just [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► read con that episode and shoe second [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► chances is a good app is one of my [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► another episode i really enjoy which is [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► worthy if they find the duplicate record [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► has been stuck on this planet [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► yea years because of a transporter a [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► little Riker yeah thomas armstrong this [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► right yes and so and you get these weird [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► like they're they're the same person [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► only kind of not because he's been stuck [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► on a planet every years and he actually [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► get somebody did you get some traction [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► in deep space nine later I shows up and [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► kind of goes rogue basically by [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► pretending to be Riker and stealing the [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► Department it didn't anybody loved the [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► scottie comes back episode of star child [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► and I love sky love Scotty period just [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► like I reactionary right i love that [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► episode because once again it's so [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► Scotty comes back and you know in the [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► original series he could fix everything [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► and he comes back and he is or he [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► doesn't know anything about the new [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► stuff and George's like please we can [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► fix it [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► just go back to your cabin that's what [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► it's like oh but he they read they do [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► the holiday that excel story how to do [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► his job yeah how to manage his boss also [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► there's a lot of good mockery of Bad [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► episodes in that episode I don't [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► remember this where where where there [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► are several scenes majority is telling [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► him sort of the end of a plot of a bad [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► episode we scoured the movie state right [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► was gonna go that's funny that wasn't a [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► very good episode haha and and Scotty [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► also reveals how he got his reputation [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► as a miracle maker by overestimating how [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► long it will take up and delivering good [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► driver but that's what I like about that [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► episode is where he basically tell he [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► tells George you have got to stop being [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► honest about what you can do you manage [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► your bosses expectations so that would [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► be a lot more impressed with you also [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► Jimmy doing is just a delight [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► like anytime he's on the screen he's [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► just I don't know he's great i love him [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► do we have any more episodes that we [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► would like to call out of the hundred [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► and seventy something that were what [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► would someone like to know [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► does anyone have a heated episode as [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► opposed to like oh yeah Susan OEM [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► ability to episode myself [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► oh yeah i got i got a couple let me I'll [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► give you one from the first season and [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► i'll give you one from the last set [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► stories location that [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► isn't the first season that episode code [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► of honor which we mentioned earlier [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► which is the the people with its it's [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► black aliens in a Chinese culture and I [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► guess they were trying to be all kind of [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► multicultural and it is so it is not [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► only offensive but poorly acted and so [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► terrible you put that double feature [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► with one where Wesley steps on the grass [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► and it really you gotta wonder why they [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► were allowed to continue making episodes [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► yeah and then and then I'm gonna throw [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► out there but from that experimental [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► wacky last season where they do did [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► interesting stuff like lower decks and [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► and the one with what parallels the [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► world they're all the different versions [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► of parallel universes [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► I love those episodes like right in the [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► middle there is an episode that was [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► called I believe called subrosa which [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► was crusher which is definitely a [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► rushers Gothic romance [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► oh yeah those are we going to read that [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► was visiting my mother [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► one of the famous perhaps the worst [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► episode & Rice novel it is like an ant [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► has no Tim saras & Rice novel that what [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► were the words basically the same [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► premise for this family women is haunted [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► by a ghost that ravishes them and and [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► gives them supernatural powers and and [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► just this episode is pretty much a [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► direct descendant or parallel to that [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► one so but by the weapon amazed that [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► nobody actually mentioned best of both [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► worlds Part one or 12 as the best [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► episode because in many ways it's the [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► definitive i think next generation [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► episode it's the it's the episode that [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► my husband again who doesn't watch the [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► sci-fi loves it's got everybody talking [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► about i think that's what made it a [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► mainstream kind of hit is that episode [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► with wood that great cliff hanger and I [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► think it brought black brought back the [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► season-ending cliffhanger TV too because [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► they didn't used to do that believe it [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► or not and that you that episode was [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► such a great cliffhanger then brought [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► back so I god it's data's head [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► why is it buried precipitation is not [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► know that's times everything that was [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► good and not-so-good anyway and i'm a [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► sometimes those are my head and I know [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► yeah I kind of rest rattles that's kind [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► of a door no I hate children [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► that's where the victory of sovereignty [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► is really an episode disaster when they [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► were 14 cards in the turbolift with the [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► children [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► oh my that is another one of the first [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► episodes i ever saw that that that I [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► remember I remember watching that in [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► college and saying disaster could good [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► title one of the things I love that one [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► of the things I love about Picard is the [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► fact that he's uncomfortable around [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► children because you know typically when [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► imagining things right does not begin [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► its thing and that is ridiculously [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► well-rounded people or their animals [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► animals are gentle by their touch and [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► children instantly trusted of women's [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► swim that men want to be them and [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► instead you have bacardi is like you [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► short human come back after you've been [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► socialized in ground and I I just enjoy [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► that he's deeply uncomfortable with [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► children he just I I kind of like to [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► imagine him as somebody was deeply [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► uncomfortable being a child and you [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► what's the what is the episode it's the [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► saw pisode of Star Trek wear Drakkar is [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► stuck in a space they can't get out of [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► with like not enough food and three [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► alien races and they're trying to open a [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► door and one of them is some kind of [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► leonine me and wants to eat the other [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► and you're talking about it turns out [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► that might be experimented on by [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► transporter beings is the craziest of [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► systems is that it that is that schisms [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► is that the one where they really yes [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► school are indoctrinated experiment no [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► no that's a different of that of the [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► abduction that's something to do with [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► subspace this was an episode in which [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► Picard finds himself suddenly with an [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► enson supposedly Anson a leonine be some [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► kind of like another creature and [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► they're in a room and it's basically saw [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► it's a it's a gr8 no PG version of saw [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► where they have to get out of the room [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► and they can't figure out what needs to [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► happen is not enough food for everybody [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► and eventually they sort of solve the [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► puzzle which that the answer is really [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► an instant she knows too much [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► information that secret and it's some [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► race of beings who are trying to start [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► studying other people who are separate [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► because they're always bonded together [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► very Gene Roddenberry kinda feel like [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► that or hate that i aided that location [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► good alright can I can I give them [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► episode it's not an episode but it's [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► going to be a rather controversial [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► contribute which is that I don't like [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► data [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► oh but he and always immaculately so no [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► I didn't ask you to discuss that with [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► you because here's my ears my complaint [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► about the star trek ethos as a whole is [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► you first you have data the android to [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► what is it for you humans to love oh I [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► yearn to feel as you feel it and then [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► when you get to avoid all what makes me [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► want to slam my head into yeah and then [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► you get Voyager with the hologram who's [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► all I want to be an enfranchised [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► sentient being every Star Trek has it [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► haha got the doctor you've got Spock you [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► got odo but here's the thing is I can't [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► help but think that you might have a [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► form of artificial intelligence he was [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► like look you know you meet sex with [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► your hormones have enough to distract [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► you the fact is I don't need to sleep [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► I don't have any feelings I can kick [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► your ass and productivity you can take [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► your humanity and shove it just just [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► leave me to do my word i think it [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► progresses a little bit there where you [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► do see that he kind of likes the fact [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► that he that you know he said he seems [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► in the end I think they compromise there [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► a little bit they have to be more [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► curious about the things that he [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► couldn't experience that he wanted to [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► but they jerked around someone they did [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► motion to share like that thing bug me [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► it's like everything that maybe I'm [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► ready on emotions no really not ready [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► for this I'm just gonna take him out [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► again all these emotions there's some [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► addictive i love being angry all my gosh [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► what am I going to do it's an ethical [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► game over the classic moment one of the [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► movies though we're walking along and [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► data is going blah blah blah like hey [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► candy shakes his head he's like okay [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► it's off [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah they had better see the [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► captain [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► I'm scared and a car like turn off the [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► most handle it better and in first [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► contact we're out which by the by the [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► way that that is for me that's the not [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► only the definitive you know Star Trek [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► The Next Generation movie but yeah I [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► think I actually think that that and and [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► star trek to and and i think i guess i [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► would throw in the JJ Abrams movie too [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► I mean those are the those are the best [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► Star Trek movies i think that i think [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► first contact is the the one if you're [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► gonna if you're gonna hold it out there [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► that is a great great moving and [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► directed by Jonathan freaks out of [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► breaks and I'll and I is AI i really do [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► like Star Trek six and yeah and i think [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► is no trick for you [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► wales and for that one as well right on [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► reviewing i have found generations [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► yeah I you know what it is it's ok it's [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► got into his moments it has gotten [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► moments and it's got its you know [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► yeah I like seeing the Picard Kurt team [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► up I I kind of enjoy that at the end it [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► sounds like a lot but doesn't mean who's [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► like Malcolm without identify are in [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► which rebored grateful have didn't well [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► and again you have the kids thing right [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► like the card he's like nephew or [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► something is dead right out right and [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► this can only guess why did a problem [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► yeah the one fund ones who are in that [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► episode after he gets he's rehabbing [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► from being taken by the board i guess [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► yeah and I guess I guess one of the [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► things I don't like about you know it go [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► back to the data thing per second is [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► that I feel like the problem one of the [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► problems of TNG is that they focused [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► like Picard data and to a certain extent [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► Worf like Gus all the attentions and [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► like I said I always felt a little [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► miffed because I loved Georgie as a [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► character and I felt like he never got [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► his do like he doesn't progress much [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► from the beginning of the show to the [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► end and I don't know why I like him so [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► much I'd rather always enjoy and come on [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► no these data is best friend well I can [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► tell you why I like George so much is [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► because he embodies he actually embodies [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► better human qualities that run Barry [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► I'm sure was trying to strive yeah John [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► memories and intensely loyal friend he's [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► endlessly patient he's the one who helps [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► you manage data because he's going that [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► explains things like here's how pets [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► work and no looks like spots expecting [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► and he also becomes you you the Borg's [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► best friend [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► well there you have it yeah the board [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► while he likes he knows how everything [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► works you know he runs the damn ship [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► right i love that he's a tremendously [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► observant and pragmatic and [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► compassionate character and those are [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► three trip really appealing personal [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► qualities to have and for all the the [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► these characteristics be really perfect [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► Compassion's in pretty short supply [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► if you take a look at you know I mean [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► data data is capable of having it when [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► it's an abstraction or one of the [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► logical thing to do work has to step on [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► his own baggage to have it [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► Picard has been the abstract half the [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► time I'm not sure record even knows what [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► it is but you're trying to destroy has [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► way too much except it's probably [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► doctrine is just pure comedy action [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► well that's why i left around is because [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► it's it's it's false currency with her I [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► mean she's nothing else she's not [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► discriminatory but you know Georgie [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► seems to have this intent that this [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► fantastic internal moral compass that [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► you know got that guides his decision [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► you know when to be pragmatic and and [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► then went to upgrade somebody for for [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► their flawed society and you know he's a [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► consummate observer games already i say [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► i just want to mention the episode that [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► I hated was called allegiance is season [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► i miss engine 3 episode 18 so actually [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► relatively early but I hate it what what [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► is this I forget the name of the episode [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► where that alien thing latches onto the [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► enterprise because only way old man [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► yeah yeah galaxies and I didn't know a [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► swale booby-trap he biologist or is a [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► galaxy two follow-up galaxy's child [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► galaxies challenge that's good yeah [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► that's honorable it's like it's like a [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► lamprey or something i want to i want to [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► bring up another episode that i just did [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► I that i forgot to mention that i like [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► i'm going to switch back to the positive [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► i forgot i can't believe i didn't [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► mention this one I love ship in a bottle [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► which is a holiday episode and worse it [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► is a Trolloc homes or Moriarty and so [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► you're going to do what I love about it [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► is because the plot is the craziest [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► thing I think i have ever seen on TV in [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► that in the end they solve the mystery [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► by creating a holiday inside a holodeck [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► outside a holodeck and and and when [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► you're watching it you're like what is [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► going on [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► thanks to the original Barkley extra [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► sparkly and the best part is Barkley [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► after all of that at the end of the [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► episode and we have these imaginations [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► where's holodecks inside a holiday so [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► there's a great moment where they step [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► out of the holodeck and say m program [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► and and then it goes away and then they [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► step out of the holodeck little eyes [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► again right at the end at the end of [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► Berkeley is a low and everybody else [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► leaves as well that wrapped up nicely [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► and they all leave and berkeley standing [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► there he goes [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► computer end program who I would point [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► out that sweet is that parodied an [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► excellent episode of futurama where it's [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► like oh no the hollers shed is the ocean [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► is malfunctioning again and we have evil [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► Lincoln Lincoln Genghis Khan and [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► Professor Moriarty [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► so actually that that's great because it [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► leads into into something that i [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► mentioned at the beginning that i want [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► to bring back at the end here which is [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► this you know the show wildly successful [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► seven years on the air [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► LED 24 I think feature films you know it [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► it's introduced the worlds of patrick [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► stewart i think which is a good thing [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► but at the same time I feel like it's [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► its people don't talk about it and it it [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► it was it had its cultural moment and I [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► feel like it's just going to talk about [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► on by right well but the thing is people [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► i think if you if you scratch the [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► surface so enough people will say that [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► they watched it [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► they just don't talk about watching it [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► and I bring this up because i have a [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► email list with a group of girlfriends [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► where i was mentioning I'm overdosing on [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► Star Trek right now my maternity leave [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► i'm losing my mind i'm watching these [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► shows and everything one of my [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► girlfriend's like that Patrick Stewart [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► oh captain picard and Miles O'Brien well [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► no seriously he is catnip to the ladies [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► and every single one of these people who [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► are not science fiction names at all [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► were like I love that show because I [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► loved watching Captain Picard so I i [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► think there it may be up one is cultural [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► constants like jagger nobody talks about [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► watching it but everybody did it well [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► and and I think it's one of those shows [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► that also like we're saying paved the [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► way for a lot of stuff that came after [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► it I mean in terms of you know science [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► fiction and and you know that kind of [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► genre stuff that wasn't necessarily as [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► welcome always kind of campy or whatever [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► before that I think you know there is it [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► was a show that was intellectual at its [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► best right arm and I think that was not [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► something that was very popular at that [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► point on television and and it really i [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► think it had a big impact that got [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► nominated for an emmy for best drama in [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► its last season sort of a valedictory [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► kind of thing but it's for sci-fi 4 star [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► trek I you know it really ended up with [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► that broad appeal and i did it i think [TS]