The Incomparable

◼   ► the incomparable contest number 66 [TS]

◼   ► November 2011 [TS]

◼   ► welcome back to being comfortable [TS]

◼   ► podcast i'm dan moore and sitting in for [TS]

◼   ► Jason Snell we are convening once again [TS]

◼   ► our book club this week we're discussing [TS]

◼   ► ready player one by Ernest Cline and [TS]

◼   ► with me i have an elite group of [TS]

◼   ► panelists i am joined by scott McNulty [TS]

◼   ► hello dad [TS]

◼   ► insert random eighties reference here I [TS]

◼   ► I see you came prepared [TS]

◼   ► I did in addition we are joined by John [TS]

◼   ► siracusa hi John little bit sleepy [TS]

◼   ► tonight Dan but maybe my anger or wake [TS]

◼   ► me up [TS]

◼   ► we are also have Monty Ashley hi Monty [TS]

◼   ► hello [TS]

◼   ► intruder alert is that a video game that [TS]

◼   ► was in this book if not it's the only [TS]

◼   ► one that wasn't you could have just said [TS]

◼   ► video game in this book and then we will [TS]

◼   ► with laughed knowingly haha [TS]

◼   ► and of course serenity Caldwell Iran hi [TS]

◼   ► our topic tonight as i mentioned ready [TS]

◼   ► player one by Ernest Cline this is I i [TS]

◼   ► think this may be his first book but he [TS]

◼   ► is a screenwriter I believe he wrote a [TS]

◼   ► movie fan boys as i recall which [TS]

◼   ► surprisingly enough is about science [TS]

◼   ► fiction and geeks who would have seen it [TS]

◼   ► coming but ready player one is a scifi [TS]

◼   ► books said in the i guess you could say [TS]

◼   ► the near future [TS]

◼   ► it seems to borrow from pretty much [TS]

◼   ► every property if you're within the age [TS]

◼   ► of what say 2240 maybe like every single [TS]

◼   ► thing that you grew up with seems to [TS]

◼   ► have found its way into this book [TS]

◼   ► somehow does that make it a good book [TS]

◼   ► doesn't make it a band does it just make [TS]

◼   ► it a book i guess we'll see [TS]

◼   ► so to start off I thought we talked a [TS]

◼   ► little bit about the story of the book [TS]

◼   ► itself and then we can we can delve a [TS]

◼   ► little more into the the numerous [TS]

◼   ► limoges but the story sort of follows [TS]

◼   ► this this young guy [TS]

◼   ► Wade we learn about him through this [TS]

◼   ► massively multiplayer online game [TS]

◼   ► that he plays which may sound like other [TS]

◼   ► massively multiplayer online games but [TS]

◼   ► there seemed to be a it seems to be one [TS]

◼   ► big metaverse style world in the in the [TS]

◼   ► in the ways of william gibson and neal [TS]

◼   ► stephenson and I i will start off by [TS]

◼   ► saying that I thought the the [TS]

◼   ► introduction part of this book where [TS]

◼   ► that story is laid out for us was [TS]

◼   ► somewhat horrific and almost made me put [TS]

◼   ► the book down horrific and waterway dan [TS]

◼   ► I think it was I think they'd be the [TS]

◼   ► information dump aspect of it not the [TS]

◼   ► ideas the ideas were fine i mean the [TS]

◼   ► ideas we seem like science fiction the [TS]

◼   ► kind of stuff that were used to but it [TS]

◼   ► was all shoveled at you so quickly that [TS]

◼   ► I got bored because i felt like i was [TS]

◼   ► reading you know like a history book for [TS]

◼   ► something that never happened [TS]

◼   ► well you know he just wanted to get all [TS]

◼   ► that information out of the way so we [TS]

◼   ► could delve really into his characters [TS]

◼   ► and tell us about their backstories and [TS]

◼   ► yeah I asking inside their head exactly [TS]

◼   ► richly paint them or just reference [TS]

◼   ► eighties movies a lot you so I'm I'm [TS]

◼   ► getting the feeling that you guys feel [TS]

◼   ► similarly about so at you know as [TS]

◼   ► someone who has never written any real [TS]

◼   ► fiction and doesn't write anything I [TS]

◼   ► think there's something that everybody [TS]

◼   ► knows about the craft of writing fiction [TS]

◼   ► even if you've never written any fiction [TS]

◼   ► i never tried to write infections like [TS]

◼   ► one rule that people know and this book [TS]

◼   ► dances on its little gray from what is [TS]

◼   ► that rule show don't tell [TS]

◼   ► for the love of God people this book is [TS]

◼   ► like a giant exercise and what not to do [TS]

◼   ► and did the first little part the damage [TS]

◼   ► talking about what did you do [TS]

◼   ► he tells you a bunch of stuff it's like [TS]

◼   ► I don't I don't want you to tell me show [TS]

◼   ► me show me this cool world that you have [TS]

◼   ► don't tell me everything about it and it [TS]

◼   ► just never stops [TS]

◼   ► I would have really loved if there had [TS]

◼   ► been a way to just frame it so that the [TS]

◼   ► entire story is just holidays video the [TS]

◼   ► prelude and then we have to get the [TS]

◼   ► information from there instead it's [TS]

◼   ► holidays video along with oh let me tell [TS]

◼   ► you all the backstory about holidays [TS]

◼   ► video let me tell you about holiday [TS]

◼   ► oh let me also tell you about the world [TS]

◼   ► it just doesn't quite work the way you [TS]

◼   ► wanted to a lot of telling it reads [TS]

◼   ► original I mean of course client like I [TS]

◼   ► said you know he was a screenwriter and [TS]

◼   ► i think it is summer reads not so much [TS]

◼   ► like a screen look like a synopsis right [TS]

◼   ► like the premise like [TS]

◼   ► right so here's my concept it's a world [TS]

◼   ► where there's a big video game and [TS]

◼   ► everybody's looking for this one [TS]

◼   ► easter egg that's inside the video game [TS]

◼   ► how and then it's like it's got like the [TS]

◼   ► end is like he wrote the entire [TS]

◼   ► wikipedia like or it's a bad voiceover [TS]

◼   ► in a world where voiceover the trailer [TS]

◼   ► voiceover for the first scene of the [TS]

◼   ► movie before you get to the actual movie [TS]

◼   ► but nothing that is really the point of [TS]

◼   ► the book the idea is to get into a world [TS]

◼   ► where you're obsessive memorization of [TS]

◼   ► Monty Python actually matters all geeked [TS]

◼   ► streams yeah we basically all kind of [TS]

◼   ► hope right that all this random data [TS]

◼   ► that we've acquired over the many many [TS]

◼   ► years that we've been alive will come in [TS]

◼   ► handy someday somehow and in this world [TS]

◼   ► in some ways the geeks you know are the [TS]

◼   ► ultimate class because they are the ones [TS]

◼   ► who have all this esoteric knowledge [TS]

◼   ► yeah practicing joust for hours and [TS]

◼   ► learning how to get through store in 15 [TS]

◼   ► minutes [TS]

◼   ► that was an important skill that's gonna [TS]

◼   ► pay off at some point it's it's this [TS]

◼   ► book reads a little bit like like like [TS]

◼   ► cognitive dissonance reduction or [TS]

◼   ► something like this like I didn't waste [TS]

◼   ► my childhood these skills have used see [TS]

◼   ► mom I could be a I could be a superhero [TS]

◼   ► it would be getting out the geek mine [TS]

◼   ► repels repels of the idea that they need [TS]

◼   ► this such a vast world of things that [TS]

◼   ► geeks do that this book in this contest [TS]

◼   ► can necessarily only include tiny subset [TS]

◼   ► of them and the odds of that subset [TS]

◼   ► exactly overlapping with your particular [TS]

◼   ► subset of basically zero so the only [TS]

◼   ► thing that's believe bonus is that the [TS]

◼   ► Sixers could have a vast network of [TS]

◼   ► highly paid people who cumulatively [TS]

◼   ► could have these skills and they didn't [TS]

◼   ► waste their sales but individually the [TS]

◼   ► odds of any individual one person having [TS]

◼   ► the scales let alone like the three or [TS]

◼   ► four good guys all knowing exactly these [TS]

◼   ► specific things that human brain can't [TS]

◼   ► hold that much information you know well [TS]

◼   ► the the point of the whole beginning [TS]

◼   ► prologue right is that they they [TS]

◼   ► obsessively study what holiday they [TS]

◼   ► study but you can't you just can't this [TS]

◼   ► too much you just can't study that [TS]

◼   ► matter is it's it's the there there are [TS]

◼   ► the script they are led by the script to [TS]

◼   ► have memorize these particular movies [TS]

◼   ► news but not actually they've memorized [TS]

◼   ► every moving it is also a photographic [TS]

◼   ► memories it's you know [TS]

◼   ► so in the future yes I've nearly spent [TS]

◼   ► my life learning exactly what these [TS]

◼   ► characters have learned but I can't go [TS]

◼   ► play pac-man and get a perfect score [TS]

◼   ► just because I on your first try [TS]

◼   ► yeah but well that's because you're not [TS]

◼   ► trying hard enough ah well that's [TS]

◼   ► because that's because you're not [TS]

◼   ► trapped in the story where every single [TS]

◼   ► thing that happens has happened for an [TS]

◼   ► obvious reason its television stars like [TS]

◼   ► I wonder why this packing able that be [TS]

◼   ► important now certainly not rule I i [TS]

◼   ► have to say remind me a little bit i was [TS]

◼   ► watching at a friend's house a kung fu [TS]

◼   ► movie the other night and this is a this [TS]

◼   ► come from movie from the seventies it [TS]

◼   ► was awesome and by awesome i mean [TS]

◼   ► terrible but the end up the the moral of [TS]

◼   ► the story ended up being that this this [TS]

◼   ► random sort of chinese kung foo kid this [TS]

◼   ► cube and studying it like under his [TS]

◼   ► father accidentally challenges like all [TS]

◼   ► the greatest masters of Japanese kungfu [TS]

◼   ► and like all the great masters of [TS]

◼   ► Japanese kungfu show up and somehow this [TS]

◼   ► random kid beats all of them with in all [TS]

◼   ► their various disciplines it was the [TS]

◼   ► main character you see that's how it [TS]

◼   ► works the more the camera points that [TS]

◼   ► you the more powerful you are [TS]

◼   ► it should have been obvious to me so to [TS]

◼   ► develop the plot a little bit so those [TS]

◼   ► who are falling on haven't read the book [TS]

◼   ► and who may now never read i liked it i [TS]

◼   ► I you know that i enjoyed as well but [TS]

◼   ► the to sort of spell of the world [TS]

◼   ► basically there's this massively [TS]

◼   ► multiplayer online game in which the [TS]

◼   ► Creator james halliday has hidden [TS]

◼   ► various easter eggs that will sort of [TS]

◼   ► lead people on this treasure hunt at the [TS]

◼   ► end of which they'll come into [TS]

◼   ► unimaginable power of course and of [TS]

◼   ► course everything is locked into all [TS]

◼   ► these geek culture references movies TV [TS]

◼   ► shows video games from the eighties [TS]

◼   ► because that's the time when the [TS]

◼   ► inventor grew up so our main character [TS]

◼   ► is a huge geek who is really into all [TS]

◼   ► these subject areas and is trained and [TS]

◼   ► you'll memorize all this in the hopes [TS]

◼   ► that he can find this easter egg which [TS]

◼   ► of course he never does in the book is [TS]

◼   ► really boring and ends [TS]

◼   ► wait no that's not this book okay that [TS]

◼   ► would have been too sad i'm curious as [TS]

◼   ► to what you guys thought about the sort [TS]

◼   ► of the moments that we spend outside of [TS]

◼   ► the game in this future which looks [TS]

◼   ► pretty grim [TS]

◼   ► talk of her moment about the stacks [TS]

◼   ► because trying to imagine that visually [TS]

◼   ► gives me a son can you can you explain [TS]

◼   ► what that yeah so the stacks it there [TS]

◼   ► are is where our main character grows up [TS]

◼   ► and it's basically from what I can [TS]

◼   ► gather it's that the the cities of the [TS]

◼   ► United States and of the world are still [TS]

◼   ► you know fairly five functioning things [TS]

◼   ► however power and and various other you [TS]

◼   ► know important livelihood type things [TS]

◼   ► have basically died out everywhere [TS]

◼   ► that's not a major city so people drove [TS]

◼   ► their RVs and their mobile homes and [TS]

◼   ► their trailers in an attempt to try and [TS]

◼   ► get near the big cities and then failed [TS]

◼   ► and so they decided to stack their [TS]

◼   ► mobile homes on top of each other and [TS]

◼   ► create virtual apartments and it [TS]

◼   ► it all sounds very dangerous and very I [TS]

◼   ► every time there's a couple chapters [TS]

◼   ► where we're in the stacks and every time [TS]

◼   ► i'm reading about the stacks I feel like [TS]

◼   ► I'm about to step on something with [TS]

◼   ► tetanus and it [TS]

◼   ► that's what I felt like in their heat [TS]

◼   ► our main character has a place to sort [TS]

◼   ► of hide away thats in this junkyard in [TS]

◼   ► this old van that's like half crushed [TS]

◼   ► and that's what I kept thinking was you [TS]

◼   ► know the same the same idea of this [TS]

◼   ► seems really really dangerous and [TS]

◼   ► alternatively also reminded me of [TS]

◼   ► anybody who ever read The Three [TS]

◼   ► Investigators they had a trailer that [TS]

◼   ► was buried in a junkyard which was [TS]

◼   ► awesome I totally won i remember that i [TS]

◼   ► decide you just activated a memory [TS]

◼   ► achievement unlocked they had a [TS]

◼   ► chauffeur that drove them everywhere all [TS]

◼   ► the trailers are all stacked up there [TS]

◼   ► the better to blow up my dear [TS]

◼   ► yes true because what wouldn't be [TS]

◼   ► complete with a giant evil corporation [TS]

◼   ► blowing stuff up by topic like dominoes [TS]

◼   ► in the movie adaptation just wait [TS]

◼   ► they are so essentially yes oh so our [TS]

◼   ► hero does manage to sort of be the first [TS]

◼   ► one who unlocks it part of this this [TS]

◼   ► mystery and he comes across up against [TS]

◼   ► this major corporation that is as John [TS]

◼   ► was talking about earlier that sort of [TS]

◼   ► assembled all this raw talent to try and [TS]

◼   ► you know cheat the system or less and [TS]

◼   ► they essentially blow up his home with [TS]

◼   ► his family for remote remains of his [TS]

◼   ► family in it but that's okay because we [TS]

◼   ► didn't really like them anyway we did [TS]

◼   ► like the downstairs neighbor in that one [TS]

◼   ► yeah we felt bad for her for about the [TS]

◼   ► page and a half [TS]

◼   ► that was a weird I mean even even the [TS]

◼   ► thing with like the well the answer is [TS]

◼   ► really awful the Anthony lives with is [TS]

◼   ► really awful that's still it was such a [TS]

◼   ► bizarre choice to be like I'm just gonna [TS]

◼   ► kill these people often really no [TS]

◼   ► conscious yet they went right from like [TS]

◼   ► from future world video game into murder [TS]

◼   ► like that transition was not smooth [TS]

◼   ► I think that's still just pure geek [TS]

◼   ► wish-fulfillment though because they [TS]

◼   ► stole his computer wouldn't let him go [TS]

◼   ► online so naturally they must die [TS]

◼   ► I wish our corporation would blow to my [TS]

◼   ► mom up about my trouble since Cinderella [TS]

◼   ► would have done the same thing they took [TS]

◼   ► her laptop that's always been so then we [TS]

◼   ► enter into this strange period where our [TS]

◼   ► character sort of goes on the run but [TS]

◼   ► he's much more well outfitted now [TS]

◼   ► because he's become this at least in the [TS]

◼   ► virtual world the celebrity so he sold [TS]

◼   ► himself out to sponsorships [TS]

◼   ► I mean that sounds like the future to me [TS]

◼   ► that that whole thing especially right [TS]

◼   ► after he finds the first key and then he [TS]

◼   ► gets the opportunity from the big giant [TS]

◼   ► corporation to come join them and be [TS]

◼   ► their head and he tells them to screw [TS]

◼   ► off and then they blow up his trailer [TS]

◼   ► and then go to survive he sells himself [TS]

◼   ► to all kinds of companies and it just it [TS]

◼   ► it felt a little i mean i understand why [TS]

◼   ► it's necessary and context of the book [TS]

◼   ► but it felt very much like yes I am I am [TS]

◼   ► totally badass i'm going to be on a [TS]

◼   ► sneaker company and a milk carton now [TS]

◼   ► and I'm totally above light [TS]

◼   ► I'm above retribution and I'm above you [TS]

◼   ► know finger-pointing with it with a [TS]

◼   ► sneaker company and the milk carton [TS]

◼   ► different things because like milk [TS]

◼   ► cartons because he's like missing and [TS]

◼   ► it's not him it's his avatar and you [TS]

◼   ► know you know and have a target never be [TS]

◼   ► copied because there's no way to copy [TS]

◼   ► the amount of the American avatar know [TS]

◼   ► whatever do that would've been more [TS]

◼   ► realistic they all agreed to pay him but [TS]

◼   ► that is paypal account got frozen for [TS]

◼   ► fraud and he was never get there we'll [TS]

◼   ► get any money because he couldn't get [TS]

◼   ► through human to do the resolution it's [TS]

◼   ► also extremely convenient that the first [TS]

◼   ► key that he goes looking for happens to [TS]

◼   ► be on the only planet that he can [TS]

◼   ► actually get to [TS]

◼   ► justify that in my head I figured out [TS]

◼   ► that naturally the keys would have to be [TS]

◼   ► on a planet that holiday had created so [TS]

◼   ► naturally it's not going to be on one of [TS]

◼   ► these far-flung new plan well they did [TS]

◼   ► they justified like crazy in the book [TS]

◼   ► they were like kinda makes sense you see [TS]

◼   ► because it's gonna be that's a near [TS]

◼   ► school and have to be someplace because [TS]

◼   ► you wanted two kids find it was a kid [TS]

◼   ► like it they went they bent over [TS]

◼   ► backwards to justify that was the least [TS]

◼   ► of his first key it doesn't bother me [TS]

◼   ► because again we are reading a book [TS]

◼   ► where presumably things happen and for [TS]

◼   ► the main character you know presumably [TS]

◼   ► there's a reason why we're following [TS]

◼   ► this kid so I can it's like charlie and [TS]

◼   ► the chocolate factory right once to get [TS]

◼   ► into the world of crazy solving puzzles [TS]

◼   ► i have no problem with whatever deus ex [TS]

◼   ► machina you want to invent so all right [TS]

◼   ► he finds the key because it's the only [TS]

◼   ► plan to visit great he lived he goes to [TS]

◼   ► a perfect school because no one can [TS]

◼   ► bully him because he's in virtual world [TS]

◼   ► fine that that all works for me it's its [TS]

◼   ► subsequent layers that where things [TS]

◼   ► begin a little interesting interesting [TS]

◼   ► is one way of putting it i think so did [TS]

◼   ► it did anyone else find it like speaking [TS]

◼   ► of the other keys it's not the first the [TS]

◼   ► second or third key they made a lot of [TS]

◼   ► especially the first key but even the [TS]

◼   ► second one a lot of like all these these [TS]

◼   ► experts especially the Sixers and [TS]

◼   ► everything racking their brains trying [TS]

◼   ► to figure out like they just can't get a [TS]

◼   ► foothold they don't even know where to [TS]

◼   ► begin they're just making not making any [TS]

◼   ► progress every one of them if you knew [TS]

◼   ► any part of the reference you're like oh [TS]

◼   ► yeah I think that's probably the you [TS]

◼   ► know something to do with the name of [TS]

◼   ► the DNG module and you know i got the [TS]

◼   ► first one the two before yeah [TS]

◼   ► and-and-and suppose the second one again [TS]

◼   ► I forgotten already [TS]

◼   ► I think the second one was or yes the [TS]

◼   ► second one also was like you know I'd [TS]

◼   ► not that I'm saying I solved me that I [TS]

◼   ► knew exactly what it was because he [TS]

◼   ► couldn't there was enough information [TS]

◼   ► that really but I I had an inkling I [TS]

◼   ► knew what I know what references they [TS]

◼   ► were making and how it manifests right [TS]

◼   ► and it's hard to believe how hard to [TS]

◼   ► believe that these super experts would [TS]

◼   ► just be totally stumped and not know [TS]

◼   ► where to go and be missing the obvious [TS]

◼   ► well not just that but I mean you see [TS]

◼   ► how many people you know today come up [TS]

◼   ► with the you know tell in document every [TS]

◼   ► possible little obscure thing in the [TS]

◼   ► world right just type the closing to [TS]

◼   ► google and he'll get how there's no [TS]

◼   ► google in the future John yeah right [TS]

◼   ► google [TS]

◼   ► Scott there's only oasis I mean I work [TS]

◼   ► at the company that makes dnd and i [TS]

◼   ► still play text adventures so those [TS]

◼   ► Clues didn't even read as close to me [TS]

◼   ► was oh tomb of horrors [TS]

◼   ► oh dork i know that's that's something [TS]

◼   ► like that they're trying to balance it [TS]

◼   ► when you're writing the book you don't [TS]

◼   ► want it to be so obscure that the [TS]

◼   ► average reader is gonna be like no human [TS]

◼   ► could have gotten that but on the other [TS]

◼   ► hand you don't have to be super easy and [TS]

◼   ► I felt like if this book is aimed the [TS]

◼   ► geeks every gig had some piece of [TS]

◼   ► knowledge they're like well that seems [TS]

◼   ► like it's going to be this thing it's [TS]

◼   ► the thing that makes it hard to set up [TS]

◼   ► right because the idea is supposed to be [TS]

◼   ► bye-bye premise alone right [TS]

◼   ► he's were locked into a world where [TS]

◼   ► nobody has found this thing yet right so [TS]

◼   ► I I think we're kind of stuck in that [TS]

◼   ► regard so it's really hard to pass that [TS]

◼   ► bar as the author and be like here's why [TS]

◼   ► it's so hard you know in a brainteaser [TS]

◼   ► fashion for everybody to have figured it [TS]

◼   ► out maybe they should just put a lot of [TS]

◼   ► guns around it or something it's kind of [TS]

◼   ► like scripting comedy show right where [TS]

◼   ► your show it like twice the joke why [TS]

◼   ► studio 60 failed is that the comedy on [TS]

◼   ► the behind-the-scenes comedy show wasn't [TS]

◼   ► actually funny it's the same basic [TS]

◼   ► principle we're all right i need these [TS]

◼   ► clues to be hard but at the same time [TS]

◼   ► they need to be brilliant and there's a [TS]

◼   ► certain level where the clues are fun [TS]

◼   ► but they're not they're not you know the [TS]

◼   ► hardest cryptography or puzzle that I've [TS]

◼   ► ever come across and that's maybe where [TS]

◼   ► we run into trouble that's the danger [TS]

◼   ► with using real information because had [TS]

◼   ► had this all been synthetic you know [TS]

◼   ► total fantasy world no relation to our [TS]

◼   ► own then you can make very clever [TS]

◼   ► puzzles you don't have to account for [TS]

◼   ► you don't you don't have to account for [TS]

◼   ► the varying levels of knowledge in the [TS]

◼   ► reader because all your readers have [TS]

◼   ► zero knowledge about your new world but [TS]

◼   ► if it's like yeah that's what's our [TS]

◼   ► world but I really now you're kind of [TS]

◼   ► screwed but as it is I jump right past [TS]

◼   ► our brilliant protagonist say Oh tomb of [TS]

◼   ► horrors and then I get mad because to [TS]

◼   ► move forward was actually reprinted in [TS]

◼   ► different editions for 2nd edition D&D [TS]

◼   ► and 3.5 with which version is it so what [TS]

◼   ► you're saying is the books not geeky and [TS]

◼   ► now [TS]

◼   ► not to mention that likes of the rules [TS]

◼   ► of Oasis are probably not you know [TS]

◼   ► standard D&D rules if you're going to [TS]

◼   ► open the door to super geeky stuff you [TS]

◼   ► absolutely have to get it right you [TS]

◼   ► better know it's going to come in [TS]

◼   ► otherwise you're asking for this kind of [TS]

◼   ► complaint it is true now I knew I was in [TS]

◼   ► trouble with the first clue when I knew [TS]

◼   ► the answer and I thought okay so he's [TS]

◼   ► written this book about really geeky [TS]

◼   ► things so that geeks like me will buy it [TS]

◼   ► and then he wrote this clue so that [TS]

◼   ► geeks like me could solve it easily so [TS]

◼   ► we would feel special and he's pandering [TS]

◼   ► to me and now I hate him [TS]

◼   ► it's just a it's just a set of dominoes [TS]

◼   ► not going over right there it's true and [TS]

◼   ► then I I didn't like the book from them [TS]

◼   ► because every reference I thought more [TS]

◼   ► pandering I hate this guy but I think [TS]

◼   ► Jason made this a comment and I'll often [TS]

◼   ► for him he was like the pandering it's [TS]

◼   ► it annoyed me to the same reasons and [TS]

◼   ► Scott but the thing about it is and I [TS]

◼   ► didn't think this would happen to me but [TS]

◼   ► it did like three quarters with a bucket [TS]

◼   ► like an hour and reference reference [TS]

◼   ► reference reference reference what [TS]

◼   ► they're trying to do is like the night [TS]

◼   ► and when you see an interesting [TS]

◼   ► references like oh wow you know I didn't [TS]

◼   ► think anyone knew their reverence with [TS]

◼   ► me but these were so common like who [TS]

◼   ► doesn't know all these things like first [TS]

◼   ► bueller's day off thats obscure right [TS]

◼   ► our John Hughes movies or whatever herbs [TS]

◼   ► here in the dark future jail [TS]

◼   ► well you know i know they didn't talk [TS]

◼   ► about pandering to the readers but then [TS]

◼   ► finally towards the end he threw in a [TS]

◼   ► reference in like hey I didn't think [TS]

◼   ► other people knew about that like he got [TS]

◼   ► me with one out and soon as i read my [TS]

◼   ► damn you know 8950 references later one [TS]

◼   ► of them finally lands that I don't [TS]

◼   ► discount the rest of you Father and [TS]

◼   ► right into my trap and it was a it was [TS]

◼   ► black tiger the arcade game that I [TS]

◼   ► played way too much of that very few [TS]

◼   ► other people at least in my group of [TS]

◼   ► friends even knew the game existed miss [TS]

◼   ► this game only existed in the lobby [TS]

◼   ► outside modells it wasn't even in it [TS]

◼   ► wasn't even that in the actual video [TS]

◼   ► okay that I used to go to go to Modell's [TS]

◼   ► just play black tiger as you can see i [TS]

◼   ► enjoyed having a barrage of references [TS]

◼   ► all things that i love and then I got [TS]

◼   ► mad when i got to the chapter about rush [TS]

◼   ► because i don't like ride [TS]

◼   ► I don't recognize this at all something [TS]

◼   ► went wrong with my book [TS]

◼   ► yes and then he plays an interlude on a [TS]

◼   ► different if you had an older brother [TS]

◼   ► who was born in 10 years earlier than [TS]

◼   ► you you know if you shake the book a few [TS]

◼   ► times this little shuffle it up for you [TS]

◼   ► get sticks why wasn't it dr. Demento [TS]

◼   ► song definite you know I agree with [TS]

◼   ► Monty I i mean i have my criticisms of [TS]

◼   ► the book and I have places like one [TS]

◼   ► looking back on it I'm like a but the [TS]

◼   ► first I want to say the first love the [TS]

◼   ► books broken up into levels the first [TS]

◼   ► level i could not stop grinning because [TS]

◼   ► as absurd as it was and all of the [TS]

◼   ► references and although so it's [TS]

◼   ► post-apocalyptic world and there and yet [TS]

◼   ► they can all play this crazy video game [TS]

◼   ► in and final time into it [TS]

◼   ► all that aside it's really fun [TS]

◼   ► it's it's the kind of book where you [TS]

◼   ► don't have to concentrate a whole lot to [TS]

◼   ► figure out what's going on so you can [TS]

◼   ► bring it really fast and just be like oh [TS]

◼   ► yeah playing video games i feel like i'm [TS]

◼   ► 12 again and that kind of highest kinda [TS]

◼   ► is fun it's not necessarily world [TS]

◼   ► literature but it was still a lot of [TS]

◼   ► know or you could just play a video game [TS]

◼   ► I wanted to say something about one of [TS]

◼   ► the parts of the book that I actually [TS]

◼   ► kind of liked which is so about midway [TS]

◼   ► through are our hero has removed himself [TS]

◼   ► to its cleveland right [TS]

◼   ► yes yeah mm-hmm this is how you can tell [TS]

◼   ► this book is fiction because cleveland [TS]

◼   ► is important well it was known as a [TS]

◼   ► holidays hometown that's why it wasn't [TS]

◼   ► there yes yes yeah well that's that's [TS]

◼   ► where their company that's where they [TS]

◼   ► help the company and that's where he [TS]

◼   ► goes so we can power and is good [TS]

◼   ► internet good internet yeah that's how [TS]

◼   ► you know he's not just Lord British and [TS]

◼   ► so he realizes at a certain point that [TS]

◼   ► he's going to be sort of stymied unless [TS]

◼   ► he can get in [TS]

◼   ► inside this corporation that is that is [TS]

◼   ► his main antagonist and so he sets up [TS]

◼   ► kind of up you know a scenario in which [TS]

◼   ► he ends up having to infiltrate them [TS]

◼   ► from the inside and get some information [TS]

◼   ► and get out and I kind of found that to [TS]

◼   ► be that might have been my [TS]

◼   ► my top five favorite part of the book [TS]

◼   ► with that I i really enjoyed those [TS]

◼   ► scenes that were you know because i felt [TS]

◼   ► like it took a little bit of a leap from [TS]

◼   ► the you know we were outside of the the [TS]

◼   ► game and we get a little more picture of [TS]

◼   ► this world that he lives in and [TS]

◼   ► particularly this this company and I [TS]

◼   ► thought that was really interesting [TS]

◼   ► I was just gonna say it reminds me of a [TS]

◼   ► terry gilliam's Brazil yes where you [TS]

◼   ► know they knocked on the door and take [TS]

◼   ► away because he is out of he's bankrupt [TS]

◼   ► or something and that he needs to enter [TS]

◼   ► into indentured servitude so he can [TS]

◼   ► repay his debt to his corporation and [TS]

◼   ► then he uses his mad hacker skills to [TS]

◼   ► figure out what's going on [TS]

◼   ► I love the idea by the way of indentured [TS]

◼   ► servitude due to credit card debt and [TS]

◼   ► I'm surprised that no major credit card [TS]

◼   ► corporation has figured out a way to do [TS]

◼   ► it yes this is not a political podcast [TS]

◼   ► no politics now I'm just amused by the [TS]

◼   ► idea as in science fiction book know as [TS]

◼   ► a science which ensure i mean you know [TS]

◼   ► it's not necessarily particularly [TS]

◼   ► original and so on right either but a it [TS]

◼   ► at least that was the part of which I [TS]

◼   ► felt from a plot perspective I actually [TS]

◼   ► felt there was some tension in this book [TS]

◼   ► well yeah because I mean you have him [TS]

◼   ► throwing basically throwing himself into [TS]

◼   ► a really sketchy situation whereas [TS]

◼   ► before it's like oh my virtual [TS]

◼   ► characters at stake but that's okay [TS]

◼   ► because I'm locked in this high tech [TS]

◼   ► room where everybody brings me my food [TS]

◼   ► and I have a virtual butler to make sure [TS]

◼   ► that i'm running and fit never used it [TS]

◼   ► really buff now [TS]

◼   ► yeah they're nerd fantasy right finally [TS]

◼   ► they'll find a fun way to get fit in in [TS]

◼   ► that world it's really it's very sterile [TS]

◼   ► and you and you do you step away from [TS]

◼   ► the game world so you're not being [TS]

◼   ► bashed with references every 10 minutes [TS]

◼   ► and I feel like it actually gives [TS]

◼   ► earnest clients writing a bit of a [TS]

◼   ► chance to breathe it's you know you're [TS]

◼   ► you're playing with actual plot [TS]

◼   ► developments here not just I missed a [TS]

◼   ► couple of references on top of each [TS]

◼   ► other and try and morph it into oh we're [TS]

◼   ► going forward he didn't necessarily have [TS]

◼   ► the crutch to lean on of the game and [TS]

◼   ► all the the 0 Maj but and like I said I [TS]

◼   ► felt like there was actually some [TS]

◼   ► tension here as opposed to like run was [TS]

◼   ► saying in in the game world where it [TS]

◼   ► seems like [TS]

◼   ► is the the what's at stake feels very [TS]

◼   ► vague in some way so if the bad guys get [TS]

◼   ► this will suck because they'll take over [TS]

◼   ► the game and I make everybody pay for it [TS]

◼   ► and capitalism is bad it's very very [TS]

◼   ► confusing what's at stake for about a [TS]

◼   ► hundred pages his life's in danger until [TS]

◼   ► the literal deus ex machina other [TS]

◼   ► founder of the company shows up and says [TS]

◼   ► you can all come to my super secure [TS]

◼   ► fortress [TS]

◼   ► it'll be fine hey guys its cool fly on [TS]

◼   ► my private too [TS]

◼   ► did anyone else picture him as he was [TS]

◼   ► the okay good thank you thank you [TS]

◼   ► because that's exactly what I imagined i [TS]

◼   ► read this book right after Steve Jobs [TS]

◼   ► died it was impossible not to think of [TS]

◼   ► that well let's let's a detour first [TS]

◼   ► going to talk about some of the other [TS]

◼   ► characters in the book since you brought [TS]

◼   ► up the great and powerful log but we we [TS]

◼   ► do have you know the character Wade is [TS]

◼   ► not easy he's got a couple friends who [TS]

◼   ► are helping out with this we have h [TS]

◼   ► who's his sort of only friend [TS]

◼   ► great you know is supposed to be his [TS]

◼   ► sort of kindred spirit and then we have [TS]

◼   ► Artemis was another hunter who is a a [TS]

◼   ► basically our love interest they don't [TS]

◼   ► get much more three dimensional that and [TS]

◼   ► that is about all those two japanese [TS]

◼   ► guys is actually kinda like I actually [TS]

◼   ► kind of like those guys even if they are [TS]

◼   ► kind of ridiculous and stereotypical I [TS]

◼   ► thought the interesting part of these [TS]

◼   ► other two hunters Amy to he assumes are [TS]

◼   ► brothers for the longest time of these [TS]

◼   ► two japanese hunters and I think you [TS]

◼   ► know I guess I was more interested when [TS]

◼   ► I found out like more about them you [TS]

◼   ► know the people who are playing their [TS]

◼   ► characters when that twister comes up [TS]

◼   ► later in the book that these two people [TS]

◼   ► had like never met in real life despite [TS]

◼   ► going around basically pretending to be [TS]

◼   ► brothers and this online world it that [TS]

◼   ► was more of an interesting dynamic to me [TS]

◼   ► but you know we don't spend a lot of [TS]

◼   ► time with them because they're kind of [TS]

◼   ► secondary did you guys have like it was [TS]

◼   ► there any characters that you felt that [TS]

◼   ► we were particularly liked or felt were [TS]

◼   ► well thought-out and well-drawn I like [TS]

◼   ► startimus before she got introduced as [TS]

◼   ► the love interest when she's talked [TS]

◼   ► about more as oh there's this really [TS]

◼   ► badass girl who is right you know who is [TS]

◼   ► writing all about this in her in her web [TS]

◼   ► blog and keeping updates and and so [TS]

◼   ► she's great until she cums on screen [TS]

◼   ► until when she comes on screen then it [TS]

◼   ► becomes I mean I don't get me wrong I [TS]

◼   ► enjoy coming some of the banter between [TS]

◼   ► her and the lead character and and she [TS]

◼   ► has a couple of nice moments but once it [TS]

◼   ► gets into the no we can't be together [TS]

◼   ► because what if we what if we don't find [TS]

◼   ► it before the Sixers do it's our oh I'm [TS]

◼   ► not as pretty and realize you don't know [TS]

◼   ► what i look like and what what's the [TS]

◼   ► reality she's exactly is pretty issues [TS]

◼   ► in real life she just has a scar or some [TS]

◼   ► kind of like birthday yeah birthmark but [TS]

◼   ► still those those are hideous [TS]

◼   ► yes yeah i think with was it that with h [TS]

◼   ► AI right kind of story that was going [TS]

◼   ► but I felt there was even a bigger cheat [TS]

◼   ► too just like it it's just I where I [TS]

◼   ► thought it was going to go on it was [TS]

◼   ► gonna be like well that she's real is as [TS]

◼   ► a girl obviously and it seems logically [TS]

◼   ► logical that should be in love with the [TS]

◼   ► main character but I don't know we don't [TS]

◼   ► want to have that kind of conflict so [TS]

◼   ► let's just make her lesbian [TS]

◼   ► it's like you dodged that bullet [TS]

◼   ► well and they they kind of they kind of [TS]

◼   ► sock away any chance of actually making [TS]

◼   ► that interesting if you know if they [TS]

◼   ► were actually wanted to make a one [TS]

◼   ► triangle with her an artifact bigger the [TS]

◼   ► inmate would make perfect sense that [TS]

◼   ► should be a girl masquerading as a guy [TS]

◼   ► to you know be friends with this person [TS]

◼   ► but that she would be you know that it [TS]

◼   ► would be a triangle situation but not [TS]

◼   ► United interest she just bout just past [TS]

◼   ► the newbie don't wanna i unduly burden [TS]

◼   ► weighed with any sophisticated [TS]

◼   ► complicated emotional situations [TS]

◼   ► well let's be fair we don't wanna we [TS]

◼   ► don't want to love triangle in this book [TS]

◼   ► anyway I we're talking about please [TS]

◼   ► assist the silly infatuation triangle [TS]

◼   ► whatever I still say Artemis has more [TS]

◼   ► dimension than most of the female [TS]

◼   ► characters in The Wise Man's Fear [TS]

◼   ► because she does have skills of her own [TS]

◼   ► she's cheap she makes choices on her are [TS]

◼   ► you socially disengages for silly [TS]

◼   ► romantic reasons it's because she wants [TS]

◼   ► to more or less concentrated on her work [TS]

◼   ► which is [TS]

◼   ► noble I'm sorry honey I have to [TS]

◼   ► concentrate on my blog [TS]

◼   ► well you know i just showed she's not [TS]

◼   ► just like a no I'm not sick and I shan't [TS]

◼   ► Emma center and she's like I've got work [TS]

◼   ► to do she's not she's not pine and she [TS]

◼   ► and she does stuff on her own she didn't [TS]

◼   ► need to be rescued in the NHL she finds [TS]

◼   ► the second key before anybody else know [TS]

◼   ► mhm no I mean they're they're definitely [TS]

◼   ► things about her character that I like I [TS]

◼   ► the interaction between the two main [TS]

◼   ► characters just kind of like yeah but [TS]

◼   ► she has she has good qualities [TS]

◼   ► h-has interesting qualities even though [TS]

◼   ► we they're all they're all very tertiary [TS]

◼   ► if the problem is is you you get these [TS]

◼   ► hints that these characters could [TS]

◼   ► actually be really really interesting [TS]

◼   ► but because the book is so very Wade [TS]

◼   ► focused you don't get much more than [TS]

◼   ► that [TS]

◼   ► well we're in his head so you like that [TS]

◼   ► regard we are sort of walked into him [TS]

◼   ► what about the the antagonists who the [TS]

◼   ► Sixers cardboard cutout uh so [TS]

◼   ► two-dimensional nothing going on but [TS]

◼   ► it's not literally [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's come on their the evil [TS]

◼   ► corporation and what did they do to show [TS]

◼   ► their evil they blow up a stack of [TS]

◼   ► trailers and they cheat in a game and [TS]

◼   ► they do everything possible to win [TS]

◼   ► unfairly Bob ya ever so not today all [TS]

◼   ► dress alike they have caring avatars [TS]

◼   ► it's true that's just offensive from [TS]

◼   ► this you know purely aesthetic you know [TS]

◼   ► they're evil their Stormtroopers they [TS]

◼   ► are ya era counts man you just don't [TS]

◼   ► know you don't know where that accounts [TS]

◼   ► been anything that's unsanitary true [TS]

◼   ► they have a starship so don't think [TS]

◼   ► writing so that's kind of cool end up [TS]

◼   ► planning they like a rude everybody gets [TS]

◼   ► a robot later on which is pretty awesome [TS]

◼   ► and so there are benefits to be evil but [TS]

◼   ► I wondered about the today or else what [TS]

◼   ► about the intellectual property is yes I [TS]

◼   ► was just going to say well that was [TS]

◼   ► exciting but there's obviously a movie [TS]

◼   ► adaptation of this coming and this is [TS]

◼   ► gonna be a nightmare from licensing [TS]

◼   ► perspective I think they'll just have [TS]

◼   ► everything from one property rights to [TS]

◼   ► do and I love you can keep making a [TS]

◼   ► movie yeah i don't know like GE and NBC [TS]

◼   ► owned enough things that surely you can [TS]

◼   ► just that's not our wizards of the coast [TS]

◼   ► not yet i mean you can write you can [TS]

◼   ► write a decent amount off on parody but [TS]

◼   ► that being said it's something its [TS]

◼   ► entirety when you're mouthing the words [TS]

◼   ► to Ferris Bueller it's not happening [TS]

◼   ► yeah that's seen it's gonna be hard to [TS]

◼   ► do but because we're gonna have to watch [TS]

◼   ► the entirety of Ferris Bueller inside [TS]

◼   ► its entirety of ready player one this [TS]

◼   ► movie's gonna be like eight hours long [TS]

◼   ► they do have that as a game now on [TS]

◼   ► connect it's just I just a scene and [TS]

◼   ► apparently it's really annoying to play [TS]

◼   ► more than once but I wondered how this [TS]

◼   ► actually worked in the world of the game [TS]

◼   ► because they have all these like they [TS]

◼   ► have the spaceships from like Firefly [TS]

◼   ► and Star Wars and Star Trek and it's [TS]

◼   ► like oh yeah intellectual property [TS]

◼   ► seized to exist for the same [TS]

◼   ► inexplicable reasons that all other [TS]

◼   ► values that we have today or disappeared [TS]

◼   ► once they ran out of gasoline [TS]

◼   ► I mean look at look at the mud that [TS]

◼   ► popped up in the eighties and the [TS]

◼   ► brushes I mean no one had the rights to [TS]

◼   ► create a star wars much for a cowboy [TS]

◼   ► bebop yes but that was text but I'm [TS]

◼   ► still saying it's the same its well but [TS]

◼   ► this this game is free to play this is [TS]

◼   ► this is a world-spanning right but it's [TS]

◼   ► the world it's the world but branching [TS]

◼   ► out of our world right look at city of [TS]

◼   ► heroes [TS]

◼   ► you can't even have a character named [TS]

◼   ► wolf are keen but doesn't he mentioned [TS]

◼   ► in the book that so everyone gets an [TS]

◼   ► oasis free oasis account right and then [TS]

◼   ► you your avatars kind of playing and you [TS]

◼   ► have to pay to get other cool stuff so [TS]

◼   ► one imagines if everyone in the world is [TS]

◼   ► playing oasis all these companies would [TS]

◼   ► license their property so that you know [TS]

◼   ► players could buy you know you know an [TS]

◼   ► enterprise for you know whatever a [TS]

◼   ► hundred bucks and then paramount get a [TS]

◼   ► hundred dollars or you know probably [TS]

◼   ► thirty percent or whatever would be so [TS]

◼   ► kind of I mean I don't know if he went [TS]

◼   ► into that detail in his head but i will [TS]

◼   ► assume he did and that is how it [TS]

◼   ► explains all of those things in the [TS]

◼   ► oasis [TS]

◼   ► I guess it's just a good thing that [TS]

◼   ► everyone of holidays childhood [TS]

◼   ► obsessions was owned by somebody who is [TS]

◼   ► willing to sign a license fee to this [TS]

◼   ► exactly i also thought it was strange [TS]

◼   ► that the most powerful person you know [TS]

◼   ► that we have this character holiday and [TS]

◼   ► I also thought it was weird that his his [TS]

◼   ► character in the game is named after [TS]

◼   ► like a jacket yeah and in some ways this [TS]

◼   ► whole week when I mean everything about [TS]

◼   ► this book is is basically a trope right [TS]

◼   ► like the plot the characters and the [TS]

◼   ► amaj and I guess you know it seems like [TS]

◼   ► it's one of those situations that should [TS]

◼   ► be a perfect storm of things that people [TS]

◼   ► like and yet it doesn't quite seem to [TS]

◼   ► succeed just community it doesn't have [TS]

◼   ► that one thing that people like which is [TS]

◼   ► a story is a story that keeps them [TS]

◼   ► guessing and I mean like with fine [TS]

◼   ► pandered to whatever but you want to you [TS]

◼   ► want to be kept like I'm i was going [TS]

◼   ► through the story but it was just you [TS]

◼   ► just saw where was going in there wasn't [TS]

◼   ► much surprised that's why the pacman [TS]

◼   ► steam so it out so much because there [TS]

◼   ► was so little in this thing that you [TS]

◼   ► knew kind of like in a movie that you [TS]

◼   ► know anything they show you it's like a [TS]

◼   ► wall you know that's gonna be [TS]

◼   ► significant is probably gonna save them [TS]

◼   ► in the end and because no one else is [TS]

◼   ► doing it like there wasn't enough stuff [TS]

◼   ► for you because it like a good mystery [TS]

◼   ► even a short little mystery although I [TS]

◼   ► mean enough stuff going on that you can [TS]

◼   ► immediately pick out a hobby when that [TS]

◼   ► guy came into the room put that thing [TS]

◼   ► down that was important because so much [TS]

◼   ► other stuff happens in the story and you [TS]

◼   ► wrapped up in the people in this thing [TS]

◼   ► it was just everything was just poking [TS]

◼   ► up out of the the ground really tall [TS]

◼   ► like here's this tower which is this [TS]

◼   ► plot point this power which is this plot [TS]

◼   ► point and it wasn't any meat on the [TS]

◼   ► bones you know you can't blame part of [TS]

◼   ► that on again [TS]

◼   ► ernest cline being a screenwriter first [TS]

◼   ► and foremost but I think also it reflect [TS]

◼   ► its kind of a microcosm of the eighties [TS]

◼   ► culture that represents because I feel [TS]

◼   ► reading the book I feel like it's going [TS]

◼   ► and watching like an eighties movie and [TS]

◼   ► it's necessary you know watching war [TS]

◼   ► games where war games isn't higher and a [TS]

◼   ► lot of its predictable but it's still [TS]

◼   ► careful careful youyou've anger John [TS]

◼   ► siracusa hear you [TS]

◼   ► hey war games is one of my favorite [TS]

◼   ► eighties movies it's a it's a two-hour [TS]

◼   ► movie you know it's it like this yes is [TS]

◼   ► a much longer than a screenplay but [TS]

◼   ► isn't much of it is a much longer book [TS]

◼   ► but i'd say it reads it reads like a [TS]

◼   ► two-hour movie for better or for well [TS]

◼   ► that's because it is a two hour [TS]

◼   ► will be and it's you know it's not the [TS]

◼   ► film has already been options so it's [TS]

◼   ► clear that he broke this and he is a [TS]

◼   ► screenwriter right so he wrote a screen [TS]

◼   ► play in book form and now it's going to [TS]

◼   ► be a movie and the movie is going to [TS]

◼   ► know and maybe even more so just out of [TS]

◼   ► curiosity debut seen fanboys yes i have [TS]

◼   ► some stories just to share of fanboys [TS]

◼   ► please Marty okay actually I want to [TS]

◼   ► tell a quick story about Ernie clients [TS]

◼   ► first screenplay which was a fan written [TS]

◼   ► script for the theoretical buckaroo [TS]

◼   ► banzai against the world crime Lee ok so [TS]

◼   ► this is not his first half at writing [TS]

◼   ► something full of fan references [TS]

◼   ► somewhere in the early nineties he got [TS]

◼   ► impatient because buckaroo banzai is a [TS]

◼   ► great movie and it claimed to have a [TS]

◼   ► sequel and it wasn't happening so he [TS]

◼   ► wrote one that kind of mash it together [TS]

◼   ► with big trouble in little china as you [TS]

◼   ► do and it's pretty fun I actually [TS]

◼   ► contacted them back then emailed him and [TS]

◼   ► told him I liked it [TS]

◼   ► a friend of mine did too and he put her [TS]

◼   ► hong kong couple your character into his [TS]

◼   ► script but not you [TS]

◼   ► now not you I'm sorry much he didn't [TS]

◼   ► like my uncle your character as much i [TS]

◼   ► maintain the name platinum cowboy is [TS]

◼   ► totally buckaroo banzai appropriate [TS]

◼   ► anyway for fanboys I don't know if [TS]

◼   ► people know this but the basic plot of [TS]

◼   ► fanboys is that people want to go see [TS]

◼   ► the phantom menace before it comes out [TS]

◼   ► because that's when people thought [TS]

◼   ► Phantom Menace was going to be a good [TS]

◼   ► movie [TS]

◼   ► so these band of geeks getting a van [TS]

◼   ► they go cross-country and they break [TS]

◼   ► into Lucasfilm and I think they get [TS]

◼   ► caught and they see the movie what's [TS]

◼   ► weird is that the movie as made cuts out [TS]

◼   ► an essential plot element which is that [TS]

◼   ► one of them is dying of cancer [TS]

◼   ► yeah I've heard the story at us well and [TS]

◼   ► that's that was actually that actually [TS]

◼   ► is [TS]

◼   ► I i would call that being in the version [TS]

◼   ► that i saw i thought they put that back [TS]

◼   ► i thought he basically held out until [TS]

◼   ► they put it back in because it was it [TS]

◼   ► was a big deal like i remember them [TS]

◼   ► going back and forth about like whether [TS]

◼   ► or not to take out this plot because i [TS]

◼   ► remember seeing it with some friends and [TS]

◼   ► like saying like telling the Masters [TS]

◼   ► like oh yeah they wanted to cut that [TS]

◼   ► whole thing out there like that makes no [TS]

◼   ► sense without like the movie has no plot [TS]

◼   ► without without that but when i saw it [TS]

◼   ► didn't have that in [TS]

◼   ► I may have to go back and watch it again [TS]

◼   ► as the version i saw was just people [TS]

◼   ► decide to go break in and see the movie [TS]

◼   ► a week early for no reason which seemed [TS]

◼   ► odd [TS]

◼   ► yeah which is which is a week a week 1 [TS]

◼   ► this little bit anyway what's especially [TS]

◼   ► odd about the movie is that these sound [TS]

◼   ► was done by THX sound so Ernie actually [TS]

◼   ► got to go to Skywalker Ranch where THX [TS]

◼   ► sound is located in a giant barn and he [TS]

◼   ► was walked very carefully because [TS]

◼   ► apparently somebody who's written a [TS]

◼   ► script about people breaking into [TS]

◼   ► Lucasfilm is not entirely trusted while [TS]

◼   ► walking around loose on Skywalker Ranch [TS]

◼   ► I'm going to call his star wars [TS]

◼   ► credentials into question that always [TS]

◼   ► the events section where he talked about [TS]

◼   ► that he had gone through all the Holy [TS]

◼   ► trilogy with Lord of the Rings the [TS]

◼   ► matrix and stuff like that all the one [TS]

◼   ► of the ones listed with Star Wars and he [TS]

◼   ► says you're supposed to watch the [TS]

◼   ► original and prequel trilogy in that [TS]

◼   ► order and the fact that he telling you [TS]

◼   ► to watch the prequels at all [TS]

◼   ► Matt right now now I i actually just [TS]

◼   ► consult wikipedia tour by myself and i [TS]

◼   ► did now i recall this so basically the [TS]

◼   ► director [TS]

◼   ► they took my cancer story line out and [TS]

◼   ► then before they released it they gave [TS]

◼   ► the director 36 hours to react it back [TS]

◼   ► in which he did and it was released with [TS]

◼   ► that in a release there was a release [TS]

◼   ► with it [TS]

◼   ► oh my it was it's it's not it's it's [TS]

◼   ► actually a pretty good movie I i would I [TS]

◼   ► thought it's pretty entertaining I mean [TS]

◼   ► clearly it's from a guy's huge stars [TS]

◼   ► heard it also has one of the best ending [TS]

◼   ► lines of any movie so I each clearly [TS]

◼   ► this is you know he this is a guy with a [TS]

◼   ► lot of appreciation for for pop culture [TS]

◼   ► I guess what get stabbed me in the end [TS]

◼   ► is the the curiosity of whether he has [TS]

◼   ► anything sort of his own to say because [TS]

◼   ► I feel like everything he does [TS]

◼   ► piggybacks on this and if you strip away [TS]

◼   ► all those so much like another another [TS]

◼   ► series III really love that that is big [TS]

◼   ► on the lodges is spaced which is a show [TS]

◼   ► that it is a sitcom which is slightly [TS]

◼   ► different but there's a lot of a margin [TS]

◼   ► there but it it somehow is only adds to [TS]

◼   ► its in service of its own story that's [TS]

◼   ► telling about people [TS]

◼   ► I I mean there's there's if you clip [TS]

◼   ► that out it would the story would still [TS]

◼   ► hold on that's more like it's part of [TS]

◼   ► the character of a space use references [TS]

◼   ► the same way like regular people like us [TS]

◼   ► to use references and then it's part of [TS]

◼   ► our life but it doesn't define our [TS]

◼   ► flyers you know it will be older and [TS]

◼   ► used them to illuminate a situation you [TS]

◼   ► find yourself in the situation itself is [TS]

◼   ► not directly related to some sort of [TS]

◼   ► fire pop culture thing you know I guess [TS]

◼   ► what i like about Ernest Cline is that I [TS]

◼   ► believe his obsessions are sincerely [TS]

◼   ► felt it's not like he went IMDb and said [TS]

◼   ► I'm going to make reference to the top [TS]

◼   ► five science fiction movies I are you [TS]

◼   ► sure about that because that's one of [TS]

◼   ► the that's one of my complaints like I [TS]

◼   ► have some of them i can say are [TS]

◼   ► sincerely felt but in one particular [TS]

◼   ► aspect which is very essential to this [TS]

◼   ► book had me questioning whether he [TS]

◼   ► actually plays modern video games and [TS]

◼   ► the most in particular I think it's easy [TS]

◼   ► to like pac-man fine we all this not you [TS]

◼   ► don't need to be like into pacman to [TS]

◼   ► understand the concept of the perfect [TS]

◼   ► game and stuff like that but the way his [TS]

◼   ► game world works makes me think and the [TS]

◼   ► way he describes technology in general [TS]

◼   ► makes like is maybe he's not like maybe [TS]

◼   ► he doesn't play modern video games maybe [TS]

◼   ► he's not really that into technology you [TS]

◼   ► know well yeah I think his future world [TS]

◼   ► is not so much based on a logical [TS]

◼   ► expansion of mmos so much as reading [TS]

◼   ► snow crash I did the things he didn't [TS]

◼   ► put it's far enough in the future you [TS]

◼   ► know I had like I have a whole bunch of [TS]

◼   ► the whole list of quibbles and notes [TS]

◼   ► maybe i'll save them for the end more in [TS]

◼   ► style but a lot of the stuff in the book [TS]

◼   ► easy made me think that just gave me [TS]

◼   ► hints that like if you set your thing [TS]

◼   ► really far in the future i'll give it to [TS]

◼   ► compare with another sci-fi author who i [TS]

◼   ► like but who just makes up ridiculous [TS]

◼   ► like vintage vintage make his technology [TS]

◼   ► of engine makes up to just nonsensical [TS]

◼   ► but it's so far in the future and so [TS]

◼   ► distant we have that as long as a sort [TS]

◼   ► of internally consistent you go along [TS]

◼   ► with it and i found vintage stuff more [TS]

◼   ► believable than this even though this [TS]

◼   ► was like ninety-eight percent the same [TS]

◼   ► as our technology just you know a little [TS]

◼   ► bit extrapolated but then he messes it [TS]

◼   ► up i think the problem is if you set [TS]

◼   ► this book 200 years in the future [TS]

◼   ► you've got people living in a weird [TS]

◼   ► cargo cult obsessively redoing things [TS]

◼   ► from [TS]

◼   ► really long will you joke about [TS]

◼   ► everybody's remaking movies over and [TS]

◼   ► over and over again and soon we won't [TS]

◼   ► have any movies left to remake I feel [TS]

◼   ► like yeah that runs out after about 40 [TS]

◼   ► or 50 years [TS]

◼   ► well I think that be an interesting book [TS]

◼   ► do that but it rate over that for a [TS]

◼   ► thousand years and showed me that book [TS]

◼   ► is habits have been less recognizable [TS]

◼   ► but then eventually realize way i figure [TS]

◼   ► i see what's going on here there you [TS]

◼   ► know this is what John Hughes movies are [TS]

◼   ► like in the future you mentioned the [TS]

◼   ► cargo cultures may be compared this even [TS]

◼   ► more to snow crash [TS]

◼   ► yeah which I which i think is you know [TS]

◼   ► obviously one of the sort of seminal [TS]

◼   ► metaverse style you know pieces and I I [TS]

◼   ► feel like it kept crashing up against [TS]

◼   ► this in some ways and yet at no crashes [TS]

◼   ► for me on arguably a better book but it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't quite have the same links into [TS]

◼   ► popular culture i guess but i guess [TS]

◼   ► maybe they're also just very different [TS]

◼   ► things [TS]

◼   ► did you have any of you guys find [TS]

◼   ► anything in particular that you felt [TS]

◼   ► like stood out from this is a book [TS]

◼   ► because I heard that was talking to a [TS]

◼   ► friend about ready player one the other [TS]

◼   ► day and he said you know there's been a [TS]

◼   ► lot of people saying that this is you [TS]

◼   ► know this is a nerd classic and we [TS]

◼   ► should replace you know [TS]

◼   ► ender's game with ready player one and i [TS]

◼   ► just both of us were sitting there going [TS]

◼   ► how working do you think this book will [TS]

◼   ► last is that backlash against orson [TS]

◼   ► scott card now [TS]

◼   ► well I mean and that's one thing like [TS]

◼   ► you know that's a whole separate issue [TS]

◼   ► but i think i would say ender's game is [TS]

◼   ► a vastly better book than this I me and [TS]

◼   ► it's just [TS]

◼   ► or perhaps that is suggested by people [TS]

◼   ► who have not read ender's game and this [TS]

◼   ► is the only science fiction book they [TS]

◼   ► have ever read what i like is this a [TS]

◼   ► game is this a game is a book and this [TS]

◼   ► is a game specifically a real and it's [TS]

◼   ► hardly has a book that has any longevity [TS]

◼   ► to it or you know now this book has an [TS]

◼   ► expired eight and it is like six months [TS]

◼   ► ago [TS]

◼   ► yeah I feel like it has to be read by [TS]

◼   ► somebody exactly my age with exactly my [TS]

◼   ► background somebody 10 years younger [TS]

◼   ► isn't gonna care about half of it [TS]

◼   ► I mean speaking as the 10 years younger [TS]

◼   ► contingent you're probably more than [TS]

◼   ► that I think I have to interrupt this in [TS]

◼   ► every show you know [TS]

◼   ► no I only because you all make me [TS]

◼   ► speaking as someone who's young and hip [TS]

◼   ► this is jive turkeys it's something that [TS]

◼   ► I was kind of considering was reading [TS]

◼   ► the book and then also afterwards I for [TS]

◼   ► some reason after i finished reading and [TS]

◼   ► I was contemplating the idea of a [TS]

◼   ► language built up entirely of pop [TS]

◼   ► culture references because i feel like [TS]

◼   ► and not to go all high and mighty [TS]

◼   ► judging society here but why not do it [TS]

◼   ► go take it society we're about 50 [TS]

◼   ► minutes in the podcast so decide no [TS]

◼   ► younger younger children I kind of feel [TS]

◼   ► like on the whole a lot of the big [TS]

◼   ► things in the the big important stuff [TS]

◼   ► that were into is all it's all older [TS]

◼   ► culture like it's cool and hip for a 13 [TS]

◼   ► or 14 year-old to like nineteen eighties [TS]

◼   ► movies right now it's cool and hip to [TS]

◼   ► dress in 1980 styles [TS]

◼   ► there's not really a defining you know [TS]

◼   ► dammit only missed it by 25 years [TS]

◼   ► yeah i was so close so close but it's [TS]

◼   ► it's strange and what the people who are [TS]

◼   ► saying ready player one is going to be a [TS]

◼   ► seminal classic I kind of wonder if [TS]

◼   ► that's not based on the the trend of [TS]

◼   ► culture right now which is basically [TS]

◼   ► regurgitating old things [TS]

◼   ► well what goes in cycles i remember [TS]

◼   ► american graffiti was not released in [TS]

◼   ► the time when people were dressing like [TS]

◼   ► that but there was a nostalgia for that [TS]

◼   ► period and there was kind of that that [TS]

◼   ► craze of bringing back that thing but [TS]

◼   ► that you know that past you know did we [TS]

◼   ► ever bring back the sixties and we [TS]

◼   ► brought back the fifties for a long time [TS]

◼   ► still do that you get the fifties diner [TS]

◼   ► sixties totally I mean you know i think [TS]

◼   ► when i was growing up in like the [TS]

◼   ► nineties when I was a teenager like [TS]

◼   ► there were a lot of people were very [TS]

◼   ► into the hippie culture that was clearly [TS]

◼   ► a big part of the 60 silent mode when I [TS]

◼   ► grew up in the eighties you know I [TS]

◼   ► listen to the beatles a lot when I was a [TS]

◼   ► little kid and you know i think that at [TS]

◼   ► that point you know that band had been [TS]

◼   ► broken up for over a decade [TS]

◼   ► so you know we always look back to the [TS]

◼   ► but the Beatles it's the Beatles is a [TS]

◼   ► good example something like long-lasting [TS]

◼   ► that will go on for a long long time [TS]

◼   ► because it was like you know the first [TS]

◼   ► big important rock band stuff like that [TS]

◼   ► but this is not the first big important [TS]

◼   ► scifi books on the first big important [TS]

◼   ► five book involving video games it's not [TS]

◼   ► the principles first of anything early [TS]

◼   ► well its most emphatically not the [TS]

◼   ► first of anything that's the whole [TS]

◼   ► planet and it's not even the first like [TS]

◼   ► iteration on pop culture it's not for me [TS]

◼   ► it's not even the first meta meta [TS]

◼   ► science fiction now so I don't think [TS]

◼   ► it's not sticking around to me know [TS]

◼   ► yeah and if it is we will hunt it down [TS]

◼   ► and kill it [TS]

◼   ► it's a fun but i still liked it [TS]

◼   ► oh alright so we have Monty and Ashley [TS]

◼   ► on the side of its it's a fun book those [TS]

◼   ► are both me you have Scott and John on [TS]

◼   ► the side of the angels I mean on the [TS]

◼   ► side of its terrible and i would [TS]

◼   ► probably lean towards that side but I [TS]

◼   ► mean I enter i enjoyed parts of it i [TS]

◼   ► don't want to wipe it entirely from my [TS]

◼   ► brain I guess which is which is a win [TS]

◼   ► for a brother that was fun to read it [TS]

◼   ► but I you so I read it [TS]

◼   ► my uh well I turned against the author [TS]

◼   ► partway through which is not good but [TS]

◼   ► you chained up in your basement here I [TS]

◼   ► don't have a basement so I killed him [TS]

◼   ► the no place to put I I came through so [TS]

◼   ► I would you know the height on this book [TS]

◼   ► was like oh my god this is going to you [TS]

◼   ► know redefine the field of science [TS]

◼   ► fiction and you have to read this book [TS]

◼   ► because it's gonna be super great so I [TS]

◼   ► was like all right i'll read this book [TS]

◼   ► it's gonna be super great those are all [TS]

◼   ► people who have never played video games [TS]

◼   ► are saying that apparently i wish i had [TS]

◼   ► the copy I have which I got out of the [TS]

◼   ► library because i read the if you read [TS]

◼   ► the back the quotes they had on the back [TS]

◼   ► I no quotes are the blurbs are terrible [TS]

◼   ► because they're always you know people [TS]

◼   ► pimping stuff but I went down the list [TS]

◼   ► of the people like these are people i [TS]

◼   ► really like and respect in these are [TS]

◼   ► good people but they're all that [TS]

◼   ► guarantee you they're all old [TS]

◼   ► some of them are in that module here is [TS]

◼   ► a list of names I have the book right no [TS]

◼   ► thank you [TS]

◼   ► top charlaine harris author of the [TS]

◼   ► sookie stackhouse series although our [TS]

◼   ► don't play video games i was there was a [TS]

◼   ► older girls but I want to offend anybody [TS]

◼   ► who ever to terry brooks author of these [TS]

◼   ► genera series [TS]

◼   ► nevermind i think back everything I said [TS]

◼   ► operating now later on the ground [TS]

◼   ► skullsy and patrick rothfuss yeah like [TS]

◼   ► scalzi and I like rafas with but it's [TS]

◼   ► weird that I mean scholars and brothels [TS]

◼   ► like getting your friends though too [TS]

◼   ► today bloggers book I mean it's like [TS]

◼   ► it's like marketing that's like I mean [TS]

◼   ► yeah those that's your crowd right like [TS]

◼   ► your you figure this cross-promotional [TS]

◼   ► marketing is my secret i guess that's [TS]

◼   ► neither here nor there but it was I like [TS]

◼   ► like Scott was saying about it being [TS]

◼   ► hyped up was like wow that sounds pretty [TS]

◼   ► cool and like the idea of it sounds cool [TS]

◼   ► enough but yeah found the execution did [TS]

◼   ► did fall kind of analyze and speaking of [TS]

◼   ► execution of like some1 people [TS]

◼   ► especially people on the show like Monty [TS]

◼   ► or glad or whatever say they're like one [TS]

◼   ► or two or three degrees separated from [TS]

◼   ► the people who actually wrote the book [TS]

◼   ► I've I start to feel bad about saying [TS]

◼   ► bad things about them about the people [TS]

◼   ► who wrote the book is like I don't want [TS]

◼   ► to hurt people's feelings [TS]

◼   ► wo you know Jason is best friend with [TS]

◼   ► best friends with val kilmer oh and I'm [TS]

◼   ► i find myself like censoring myself one [TS]

◼   ► of the things i had in my notes here and [TS]

◼   ► like and upsetting myself in this first [TS]

◼   ► several reasons but i think i should [TS]

◼   ► just say it and go against my better [TS]

◼   ► instincts here was 12 it well i'll start [TS]

◼   ► with our meetings this the central [TS]

◼   ► question to me when I'm reading this [TS]

◼   ► book at all [TS]

◼   ► I've already like turn the Scott corner [TS]

◼   ► and I'm like against it and you know I'm [TS]

◼   ► fuming about various things for the [TS]

◼   ► central question but I don't know if I [TS]

◼   ► want that to be called the Scott move it [TS]

◼   ► is a good corner he's got your name and [TS]

◼   ► printed in the cement is is this book [TS]

◼   ► supposed to be written at like it was [TS]

◼   ► written by a teenage boy like it's his [TS]

◼   ► journal or is it just supposed to be a [TS]

◼   ► book from the perspective of a teenage [TS]

◼   ► boy but written by professional writers [TS]

◼   ► and I'm saying is when i read it reads [TS]

◼   ► like if I was 13 years old and started [TS]

◼   ► my little salt and pepper notebook to [TS]

◼   ► write myself a novel about an idea of [TS]

◼   ► this world and that sounds awful but but [TS]

◼   ► like but then I stopped my supposed to [TS]

◼   ► wait a second know what he's a [TS]

◼   ► professional author like I maybe I don't [TS]

◼   ► really know much about this guy maybe [TS]

◼   ► he's trying to write it like it's that [TS]

◼   ► thirteen-year-old busy really does read [TS]

◼   ► like Wade the character in the book [TS]

◼   ► wrote this book so what do you guys [TS]

◼   ► think is it mi is he a genius and it's [TS]

◼   ► supposed to written that way or is he [TS]

◼   ► just a terrible writer don't give him [TS]

◼   ► that is it's very much in Wade's voice [TS]

◼   ► you can't deny that it's in in the 18 [TS]

◼   ► year olds voice and they were in his [TS]

◼   ► head [TS]

◼   ► I think it I think it reads very much [TS]

◼   ► like a screenwriter tried to write a [TS]

◼   ► novel it's supposed to appeal to the [TS]

◼   ► thirteen-year-old Deacon all of us [TS]

◼   ► the question about it being written by [TS]

◼   ► like Walt it's it's as if it's written [TS]

◼   ► by weight is ok then can i write a book [TS]

◼   ► that looks like a book written by [TS]

◼   ► someone who has no idea how to write [TS]

◼   ► fiction because i can write that book [TS]

◼   ► right now because I have no idea how to [TS]

◼   ► write fiction and when they say this is [TS]

◼   ► a horrible box and no no you don't [TS]

◼   ► understand its it's from the perspective [TS]

◼   ► like this it's you know its first person [TS]

◼   ► is from the perspective of a character [TS]

◼   ► and the character in the book doesn't [TS]

◼   ► know how to write fiction so this is his [TS]

◼   ► journal and that's why i'd make all the [TS]

◼   ► same mistakes that have you known him [TS]

◼   ► saying I'm going crazy reading this book [TS]

◼   ► Thinking is horrible writer i am I going [TS]

◼   ► crazy [TS]

◼   ► if you can do that and simultaneously [TS]

◼   ► tell a good story than yes PG Woodhouse [TS]

◼   ► created Bertie Wooster who's an idiot [TS]

◼   ► but birdie as a protagonist and as the [TS]

◼   ► narrator still manages to somehow convey [TS]

◼   ► a complicated story that's what's it [TS]

◼   ► like yeah they're there are books like [TS]

◼   ► that where there will be written you [TS]

◼   ► know its first person and the character [TS]

◼   ► tells you everything and it's in the [TS]

◼   ► voice of the character but the thing [TS]

◼   ► that burns about this is that Bernie [TS]

◼   ► doesn't come across as a if there's a [TS]

◼   ► difference between the weights rewrite [TS]

◼   ► it's not as if this comes across like [TS]

◼   ► bad like not quite dramatically bad [TS]

◼   ► writing because it's an automatically [TS]

◼   ► bed but like the point of it's very it's [TS]

◼   ► very simplistic writing like a lot of [TS]

◼   ► sentences are like he did this and then [TS]

◼   ► he did this I i pulled out i pulled out [TS]

◼   ► a couple examples here okay so this is [TS]

◼   ► all right so let's start with this one [TS]

◼   ► this move was a shut your hole penis [TS]

◼   ► ville IROC replied using his favorite [TS]

◼   ► mispronunciation of my avatars name [TS]

◼   ► using his favorite mispronunciation my [TS]

◼   ► avatars name you don't write that like [TS]

◼   ► you don't you don't expect we understand [TS]

◼   ► that his name is possible you have the [TS]

◼   ► guy say panvel you know it it's you [TS]

◼   ► don't put confident it's your show not [TS]

◼   ► it's your show Yeah right and you know [TS]

◼   ► what what a pumpernickel this was a game [TS]

◼   ► we played always called him by some [TS]

◼   ► random h named Harry Hubert Hogan Knows [TS]

◼   ► you Bob we will get if you just keep [TS]

◼   ► calling major his name is H in the game [TS]

◼   ► we're not idiots like but that's what [TS]

◼   ► you would write if you were like if [TS]

◼   ► you're 13 years old because you wanted [TS]

◼   ► right out the part that says see how [TS]

◼   ► clever it is i thought that they should [TS]

◼   ► always be called my agent you know and [TS]

◼   ► that stuff is what a kid would write in [TS]

◼   ► his little notebook when he's writing a [TS]

◼   ► story but it's not what Wade would think [TS]

◼   ► you know it's [TS]

◼   ► it's I don't know if I Drive myself [TS]

◼   ► crazy when he would think but it's yeah [TS]

◼   ► it's not something that should actually [TS]

◼   ► be in the box yeah well it's something [TS]

◼   ► you think when you're not feet because [TS]

◼   ► when you think you don't filter your [TS]

◼   ► thoughts right like they just all happen [TS]

◼   ► whereas when you're writing stuff down [TS]

◼   ► your choosing right and that's what [TS]

◼   ► makes it either a good writer better and [TS]

◼   ► and the worst the worst thought I had [TS]

◼   ► which is that when I reading this was [TS]

◼   ► especially after I like all the reviews [TS]

◼   ► it and all the things you're talking [TS]

◼   ► about everyone saying this is the [TS]

◼   ► greatest book ever and stuff like that [TS]

◼   ► I i would I thought to myself and this [TS]

◼   ► is not true but i actually have this [TS]

◼   ► thought that I could write something [TS]

◼   ► like this this is famous guys getting [TS]

◼   ► famous i could write this which is not [TS]

◼   ► true I totally cannot write i cannot [TS]

◼   ► even right you know not even close right [TS]

◼   ► but the fact that thought occurred to me [TS]

◼   ► shows how angry I was at the the craft [TS]

◼   ► of writing on this malay in this book it [TS]

◼   ► is angered me huh [TS]

◼   ► alright so for everybody listening out [TS]

◼   ► there John syracuse a highly recommend [TS]

◼   ► it and also claims that he can write a [TS]

◼   ► better not [TS]

◼   ► well I I think we're nanowrimo John [TS]

◼   ► we're getting we're getting we're [TS]

◼   ► getting your only eight days late get on [TS]

◼   ► that [TS]

◼   ► ya know I know I can't but the fact that [TS]

◼   ► thought even entered my head to show us [TS]

◼   ► how to better place this book romito [TS]

◼   ► alright so we're getting close to really [TS]

◼   ► be our allotted time here so I'm gonna [TS]

◼   ► ask if anybody else wants to throw out [TS]

◼   ► anything about this before we before we [TS]

◼   ► wrap up the name by did I not hit [TS]

◼   ► anything something on any of your lists [TS]

◼   ► that i would say what I liked was the [TS]

◼   ► references because they were directed at [TS]

◼   ► me when I would be fascinated to read [TS]

◼   ► the version of this book where all the [TS]

◼   ► references are either imaginary or [TS]

◼   ► things i didn't get and see what I [TS]

◼   ► thought of it [TS]

◼   ► mm so it's all a book entirely about [TS]

◼   ► rush but haha the umberto eco book the [TS]

◼   ► mystery of Queen Lana is also a burrata [TS]

◼   ► preferences but it's a broader [TS]

◼   ► references to umberto eco's childhood in [TS]

◼   ► Italy and it makes no sense to me at all [TS]

◼   ► there [TS]

◼   ► I think this podcast maybe the only time [TS]

◼   ► that this ernest cline will be compared [TS]

◼   ► to PG Woodhouse and umberto eco [TS]

◼   ► it's just let that go and open that echo [TS]

◼   ► book is just a series of somebody saying [TS]

◼   ► oh and then i'll pick up this book for [TS]

◼   ► my childhood memory memory memory [TS]

◼   ► oh and there's a picture i liked so it's [TS]

◼   ► like a like a seven-year-old tell the [TS]

◼   ► story [TS]

◼   ► well no the sentences are a lot longer [TS]

◼   ► marketplace because he's a freshman [TS]

◼   ► semiotician like unless my favorite [TS]

◼   ► thing from you think my favorite thing [TS]

◼   ► about this book was is that you've it's [TS]

◼   ► over you finished it was that a it has a [TS]

◼   ► bright color on the cover to show [TS]

◼   ► something that I said it shows something [TS]

◼   ► that I suspected for a long time does [TS]

◼   ► that you could make a good story about [TS]

◼   ► the things that we enjoy about video [TS]

◼   ► games like you know when you're playing [TS]

◼   ► a video game and you get you know you [TS]

◼   ► it's an enjoyable experience and it's [TS]

◼   ► hard to relate let's relate that [TS]

◼   ► experience to somebody who doesn't play [TS]

◼   ► video games perhaps and I like to have [TS]

◼   ► this this book even though it's kind of [TS]

◼   ► just a minor aspect of it could show [TS]

◼   ► like having this artificial rule the [TS]

◼   ► world with this set of rules and the [TS]

◼   ► things you can do it in the end exploits [TS]

◼   ► that you have there can be fun and I [TS]

◼   ► like the fact that it was it was so [TS]

◼   ► close to modern MMOs that it wasn't like [TS]

◼   ► like ender's game or some other fantasy [TS]

◼   ► type thing where it's just so far in the [TS]

◼   ► future it's like well we have nothing [TS]

◼   ► like the now it's like we have things [TS]

◼   ► like this now and people experience [TS]

◼   ► without the trail blowing up part but [TS]

◼   ► you know experience in games this type [TS]

◼   ► of experience and see its kind of [TS]

◼   ► exciting and I'll be interested to see [TS]

◼   ► if they can make a movie out of it that [TS]

◼   ► also expresses that you know this is the [TS]

◼   ► fun that people have playing games and [TS]

◼   ► here it is in the screen because [TS]

◼   ► whenever they do it in movies it's [TS]

◼   ► always so horrible and even this book I [TS]

◼   ► was kind of stay at the end or like sea [TS]

◼   ► and in the real world is the only place [TS]

◼   ► where you can really have any fun know [TS]

◼   ► the game is fun to you know that [TS]

◼   ► moralizing at the end i just want to [TS]

◼   ► punch him [TS]

◼   ► it's like it Indian don't you know that [TS]

◼   ► we have to like yes okay fine to have [TS]

◼   ► actual sex instead of cyber sex that's [TS]

◼   ► better I'm with you there but like video [TS]

◼   ► games are fun too [TS]

◼   ► that's real there's a real fun [TS]

◼   ► experiences so that was my favorite part [TS]

◼   ► of this book is it showed it can be done [TS]

◼   ► and you don't have to pretend it's in [TS]

◼   ► some fantasy world has no relation to [TS]

◼   ► our own so maybe the movie of this won't [TS]

◼   ► be good but the video game adaptation of [TS]

◼   ► the movie will be a daunting want to [TS]

◼   ► think about just like the matrix video [TS]

◼   ► games are awesome and then the [TS]

◼   ► novelization by umberto economical [TS]

◼   ► quick little know-it-all comes around [TS]

◼   ► and then the DNG module based on the [TS]

◼   ► adaptation of the novel of the video [TS]

◼   ► game of the movie of the book will be [TS]

◼   ► available in stores all right i think [TS]

◼   ► i'm going to leave their we're going to [TS]

◼   ► come back next time on the book of and [TS]

◼   ► talk about another book that also [TS]

◼   ► strangely enough deals with multiplayer [TS]

◼   ► online games although that it takes a [TS]

◼   ► sharp left turn and that's Neal [TS]

◼   ► Stephenson's Rudy it takes a sharp left [TS]

◼   ► turn and then goes for six miles on foot [TS]

◼   ► six you think it was just six anyways [TS]

◼   ► that's for next time so I'd like to [TS]