74: I`m Definitely Not a Girl
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the incontrovertible contest number 74
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january 2008 well welcome back to the
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incomparable podcast I'm your host Jason
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smell our topic today is movies for kids
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kids movies we love and joining me today
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Lex Friedman hi Lex hi how are you I'm
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doing well you have children i do I have
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three and you were once a child yourself
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where you're not as I recall I was okay
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good thank you no further questions for
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now another gasps John siracusa hi John
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hello jason i made it you made it it's
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good to have you here you have two
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children i do and also wants a child
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yourself that's what they'd only oh
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that's right there are the dye is there
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documentation for its is this a couple
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of Polaroids that's it alright fair
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enough we'll take that that's that's
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physical evidence so I guess we should
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start with but let's start with the
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rules right we have a list of of things
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we have to talk about we have talked
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about what kids movie is and how we
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define that and then we also have some
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movies that we're not going to talk
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about because we've covered them before
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or we might be covering in in the near
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future so to start I think we should
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talk about what a kids movie is I mean I
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i define this as movies that i would
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like to watch with my kids I that I
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think are of good quality that I enjoy
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watching but that they also enjoy
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watching I i tried to steer away from
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movies that the kids don't like the
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things that I find appalling that my
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children do like because I would like I
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would like it to be a family experience
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where everybody find something that they
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value does that sound about right what
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do you have with you guys to find this
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it's interesting that you said that
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because you know we did not speak about
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this before the show and my definition
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interestingly almost exactly the same
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like before add kids i would have had
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one definition of kids movie but now my
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definition of a kids movie is basically
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a movie that i want to show my children
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it's something that of course I think
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they'll enjoy it won't be too intense
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for them or whatever but also a good
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quality we like it you know i think my
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kids need to see this move
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because it's not just something trashy
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think they'll like like you know I don't
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know what your examples of horrible
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things that children do like but that
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you think is an adult horrible these are
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the movies that i want to show them so
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that's yeah that's basically my
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definition of a kids movie today is
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something that I really want my kids to
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see and you hope that they like it and
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enjoy it i would only add a to piggyback
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there that it's it's gotta be something
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that I'm willing to have them watch
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multiple times and quote and reference
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all the time because my kids if they
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really liked the movie will ask to see
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it repeatedly so it's gotta be something
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that I think will withstand repeated
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viewings for my own sanity in addition
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to their enjoyment and the definition
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for like when I was a kid that's a lot
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of overlap with that but some pre
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children were so what's the kid's movie
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i would say well there it would be the
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movie that i have fond memories of
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seeing as a child and there's a big
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overlap with that usually of this I
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movie that i liked as a kid I something
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that I want to show my children but
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there are exceptions of the things that
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I may have fond memories of as a kid but
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now as an adult either when I we're
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rewatching even without rewatching i
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know that you know in hindsight that was
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just garbage and really has no redeeming
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value and I see no reason to expose my
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kids to it right now I'm not a movie but
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I call about the scooby-doo factors i
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watched a lot of scooby-doo when I was a
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kid I saw an episode you know five years
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ago 10 years ago and was absolutely
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appalled at how awful it was on all
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fronts the everything about it was awful
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and I now think there's some stuff that
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I don't even want to see from my
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childhood because I hold it in in such
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high regard in my memory and I know that
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if I look back and it's going to take
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some things are better left to the
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memories of your childhood
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alright so we should also talk I think
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we've got a pretty good working
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definition of what we're calling a kids
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movie we should talk about things that
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we have already talked about we have
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done a couple of podcast about pixar
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although there's there there's probably
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more we could say about it maybe we will
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when the next pixar film comes out but
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we're not going to talk about pixar
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movies tonight because I we could this
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could just turn into another pixar
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podcast if we did that so suffice it to
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say I think gentlemen that Pixar movies
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are good in large part and and we're
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just gonna cite that and say yes they
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are and and you can listen to our to
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podcast about pics
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or if you'd like to hear more right
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where the pics are limitations not in
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place my selection tonight would
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certainly be a Pixar movie right and all
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the good things we said about pixar on
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that pixar episode assume that they all
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apply also to children because pretty
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much all those movies are suitable for
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children and pretty much suitable for
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children of all ages and all
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temperaments with the possible exception
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of like maybe the incredibles and maybe
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monsters inc for kids who are afraid of
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monsters right as some kids are i'm also
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going to say we're not going to talk
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about Star Wars even though we've talked
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about the Star Wars movies a lot and I
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think kids enjoy them and adults enjoy
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them but we've talked about the link so
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we won't talk about them and will
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continue to do so in future podcast and
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yes at least return the Jedi are not
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quite sure what happens after that but
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yes we will talk more about Star Wars
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and let's see what else we did an
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episode about the princess bride so I
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even though i think that's a movie that
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kids and parents can watch and enjoy
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their own levels we already talked about
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it so we shouldn't bring it up again
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other than right now agreed agreed
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alright and what does that leave us with
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miyazaki one of the things i wanted to
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do actually was talking about
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kiki's delivery service for this episode
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and jon said wait wait no no we should
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do a whole episode about miyazaki and I
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he convinced me we should do that and so
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we will do that we get a whole episode
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just on Kiki's Delivery the reasons i'm
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concerned but that may be a little bit
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too intense for the biggest so yeah yeah
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yeah so we will offer yes we'll do some
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miyazaki in the future so we're going to
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take the miyazaki stuff off the table
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but yes John John and I could probably
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do a couple hours about keys to recovery
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service so and and totoro possibly two
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so what we'll leave that for for a
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future podcast so now that we've talked
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about what we're not going to talk about
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and the subject matter i guess we should
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go around and talk about some kids
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movies we love we've got into the heart
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Lex tell me about tell me your selection
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so I'm gonna I'm gonna lead in with some
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that failed to make the cut very briefly
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however awhile flight of the navigator
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was my my top choice flatter than ever
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Gator being one of my early
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introductions to time travel was that
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back to the future which we've also done
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an episode about but flight of the
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navigator involves a boy who wakes up
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and it's five or so years in the future
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from when he went to sleep
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he's reunited with his family and they
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have to understand what happened in paul
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rubens in the movie
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well he's a voice in the movie and it's
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a live-action movie with a robotic voice
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involved it's even a blew my mind as a
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kid my problem is it's still good on
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repeat viewings but it is very dated
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visually and dialogue usually and it
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doesn't hold up very well so I decided
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my kids would not have the patience to
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sit through all the flight of the
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I would pick the princess bride but
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rules preclude me from doing so and i
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gave heavy thought my most controversial
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rejection i think to galaxy quest which
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was originally conceived as an art movie
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the tim allen horny Weaver star trek
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sort of parody movie but they decided it
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would do better as a family movie and
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edit it down to a PG thing and you can
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even see the mouth saying very bad words
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when the audio is dubbed in saying much
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nicer words instead but I decided that
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since it's really you know it's a family
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movie and not as much of a kids movie
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that it didn't deserve to be here so
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that preface in mind i went with since I
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couldn't choose pixar I choose the the
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next best thing I went with Shrek I
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think that dreamworks does a lot of
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mediocre at best kids animated movies of
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that sort but I feel like the original
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shrek the first one and the first one
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only they really sort of nailed a unique
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niche of parodying the stories the kids
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are very familiar with by this time
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really making still very lovable
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characters having a very good sort of
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moral and having a great pics are asking
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two-tiered storyline where things are
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really geared for and very
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understandable and very clear to kids
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you know what's happening who the good
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guys are who the bad guys are and what
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but at the same time being very
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entertaining to parents we're watching
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Shrek I've sky little skeptical
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okay well we're all pixar stops here so
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we're already looking down her nose at
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your selection is like allow you know I
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good for DreamWorks move see but what
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where I think that pic that dreamworks
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really succeeded with track was that it
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was they could get away with not being
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as good as pixar because in many ways it
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was parroting a lot of what Pixar's all
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about you know Peck you know they they
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had a disney ask place to parody and
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they you know they had these characters
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who were anything but lovable you know
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shrek is literally an ogre and his love
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interest turns into one as well spoiler
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yeah but i mean i think it's probably
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Eddie Murphy's best work since the
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nineteen eighties in his role as the
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donkey and you know it's mike myers is I
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like mike myers more the early nineties
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than I did when he did this movie which
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came out in 2001 and he was actually as
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you may know filling in for Chris Farley
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who had already started recording the
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role of shrek but then died during the
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process and had to be replaced but i
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think mike myers a very good job he
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gives a lot of heart and emotion to
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shrek I think Cameron Diaz a good job
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and I and the reason i think it's i mean
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i agree if I could pick a Pixar movie i
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think i would pick monsters inc which i
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think is one of the best movies ever
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made but the shrek can get away like I
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said with being a little bit on the you
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know maybe not quite as good or as quite
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as polished as your typical pixar film
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would be because of its sense of humor
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it's a very different sense of humor
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from every other every other dreamworks
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movie and it's a very different sense of
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humor from what pics are usually goes
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for it's got a different kind of heart
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and it'sit's aware of its own faults and
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it's proud of them and it so it it
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doesn't mind and i don't know i really
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feel like the storytelling in shrek is
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very well paced the characters are very
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fun to get into the the you know the
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scary characters Lord Farquaad John
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Lithgow's voice of being 15 aren't very
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intimidating every any character that
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could scare you they've done something
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to make it not scary you know Lord
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Farquaad being very small and ridiculous
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41 and it's in the you know the dragon
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that you think maybe you're supposed to
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be scared of turns out to be really nice
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and falls in love with the donkey so I
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to me what makes it works so nicely is
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for kids you know my kids especially my
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oldest is five and she gets terrified of
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everything you know if there's a witch
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in an episode of dora the explorer she
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runs from the room but she can get
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through shrek without panicking because
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of its sense of humor in the way treats
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its scary moments and she loves the
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funny moments and their slapstick and
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there's thinking humor and there's
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really funny setups and confusion and
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all sorts of things that I feel like are
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really very well paced and very well
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structured for a kid's enjoyment you
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find a pickup on the cultural references
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not it was not nearly as bad as for
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example robin williams and aladdin but
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there are a lot of jokes and gags and
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shrek that are of their time sort of the
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edges that do find your kids missing
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that or does if they miss it doesn't
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take away from the movie it's it's the
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latter when they're definitely missing
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it i mean there's there's jokes that
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certainly go over your head their heads
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when they're watching Trek and they just
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have you know no idea that they don't
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even recognize that they're missing this
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it's the nice thing is the references
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are done in a way that leave you
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confused about what am i missing right
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now you just have no idea that there's
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even a reference being made I think
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that's even true on the you know with
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with Pixar films where you know there's
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there's where's Jenny joke that's for
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the adults it you don't realize that
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you're missing the joke if you're the
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kid who just are continuing to be
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entertained by the parts that appeal to
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you but it's not like cultural
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references like where Robin Williams is
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doing you know what's this is William F
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Buckley yeah we're even or even whatever
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what's that guy's name it Sullivan yeah
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i'm going to doing that impression I
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mean kitty I didn't you know I barely
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knew who had sold was my chemistry
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classes are as all the stalker right
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kids did have no idea what that
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impressed me i'm not sure and a little
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kids then it's gonna sail right over
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their heads my concern always with Shrek
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movies it is that those like with Latin
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they are baking it feels like there's a
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freshness date on the movie and I i
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remember at the time thinking really is
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this the right way to do this because
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pics are always and we mentioned this in
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pixar podcast always seems to be
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shooting for a timeless classic and
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trying to trying to have it be something
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that in 10 or 15 years it won't seem
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dated and with Shrek they you know and I
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think Jeffrey Katzenberg has something
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to do with us he was behind Aladdin when
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he was at Disney and obviously was one
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the three founders of dreamworks it I
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felt like with Shrek that same feeling
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of like well we're going to be current
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we're gonna go in the theater with
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topical references and I don't think
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kids are going to be confused by it but
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personally I look at that movie and
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think wow thats you know that this movie
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is going to date rapidly and I you know
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I should actually go back and watch
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track i think which because it is a good
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movie and I wonder how I feel now about
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you know ten-year-old topical references
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yeah I mean I I really feel like you
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know there's a also smash mouth
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yes you know it's got smash brothers got
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all star which every I believe every
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movie in 2001 was contractually
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obligated to include but I i believe it
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holds up well you know I only learned
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you know when I was prepping for the
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show i was reading a little bit about it
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and I only learned now that the Farquaad
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character was meant to be a caricature
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of michael eisner that then disney's CEO
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I mean I knew at the time the Farquaad
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was you know and i think you know
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certainly my kids miss Farquaad itself
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is a word or name that sounds like it's
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very borderline vulgar or crass which
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certainly my kids don't get and I i
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didn't get at the time and I it took me
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to reading you know earlier this week
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that it was that Michael Eisner
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reference and I feel like all the all
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the other references references that are
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a little bit dated now they don't phase
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me and I don't think they face my kids
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at all it's because you know they get
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references that are built in just for
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them like you know my five-year-old
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again pointed out that the story of
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shrek and fiona is very beauty and the
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beast ask only floating around right
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yeah and that's what you you mentioned
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something about about wet track is
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parenting it's not really parenting
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pixar it's parenting disney movies and
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right and does a great job of that and
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and and those are classics and so
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parodying these classics is that that's
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my favorite stuff in this movie is when
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it's really taking on the you know sort
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of overly prissy disney movies I i think
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really it's attacking the disney
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attitude about its movies from the past
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and saying oh these are classics and we
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love them and tweaking that a little bit
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or a lot but i love that part of this
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but i would even argue its broader I
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don't feel anything I think you're right
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it's certainly the number one
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disney movies but I feel like it's all
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of fairytale land no it'sit's all
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children's stories and children's movies
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hear it i think my favorite scene
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remains you know when i'm fiona is
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singing and I don't even want to ruin
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the scene now in the movies 10 years old
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know if you wanna everything these
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high-pitched music and causes i believe
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if memory serves properly to explode
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because she's being so high i love that
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joke i think that joke works on any
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level and that's right out of what does
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that snow-white that's right yeah it's
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like culturally relevant to children
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because usually the first movie show
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very young children are the ones that
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are kind of pricey and and gentle and
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not scary so a lot of those are the very
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early disney movies and then when they
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can get a little bit older if you show
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them attractive it's relevant to them
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because for their entire life up to that
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point they had been read these stories
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and now it's skewering it you know it's
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like it's like a twist for them like wow
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skewering fairy tales you know I thought
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the dress for fairy tales and obviously
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the FBI the concept of turning something
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on its ear you know anything i think
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that it that the kids really like about
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shrek is that it's just you know the
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same thing we got out of maybe tom and
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jerry are just slapstick kids love slaps
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the end there can be that you know
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hollow slapstick that's not really of
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any value but if you can put good
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slapstick in a movie with kind of a
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point and you know and a lesson is not
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it you know shrek has that going forward
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amidst all the pop culture references
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and everything so I i wanna say
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something about what they do with
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Princess Fiona which i really like is it
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in terms of turning the fairytale and
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the images of the fairytale on a TED she
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starts out and I mean it's cameron diaz
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is where she starts out as this pretty
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princess pretty pink princess basically
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and turns into an ogre and stays as an
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ochre right in stays with Shrek and in
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terms of you know she's because she
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starts as a little pretty thing and she
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turns into an ogre and she's big and fat
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yeah it's not a city manager sexy
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Cameron Diaz over its not Sam Freddie as
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in green and that's her being herself
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and that's how she remains and i love
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that that's what happens in this movie
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whole kind of all the pretty all the
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pretty supermodel e skinny princesses
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with the blond hair and you know it and
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and Fiona it you know ends up becoming
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embracing her life as as an ogre in her
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in her body that is you know big and
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clumsy and and and hers and it's who she
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is perhaps the bravest artistic choice
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ever made by DreamWorks okay haha i will
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say the one but the one reason that I
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you know I really do like moving i think
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it does it state withstand the test of
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time I think it's even still looks good
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today the one reason that I was hesitant
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that was it has several instances of
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very much geared towards adults I guess
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teenager humor where it's we're leading
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into more adult and I think it needs to
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go there's a line when Shrek and Donkey
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first sea lord farquaad's castle and
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tricks as you think he's compensating
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for something and you know kids probably
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think well Lord Farquaad shirt so that I
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met with a short but that's that's an
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adult joke and there's multiple
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occurrences and I I like these jokes I
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just I feel like the movie could have
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done without them and maybe been sweeter
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for it i think i think that comment
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section joke is a perfect example of a
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double meaning that where you can read
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it as the innocent way and that's fine
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right right was gonna but there's a
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couple of this is where they especially
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with rhyming they lead into where you
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think they're going to say something
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audience then don't you know that
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there's the disney style song when you
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first get to to the the castle where
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they watch that little the video we're
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seeing you know please keep off the
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shine your shoes wipe your face and
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there's a hyatt that there's a line we
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think they're going to say that somebody
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likes to get laid to run with word made
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but they actually anything that he likes
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to get paid but with a little pause
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there first and it
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my kids don't get those jokes but you
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know one day we'll get those jokes and
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then a movie that was sweet and innocent
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will be slightly less serious business
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and I don't think it's I think it's
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terrible but it was the one element that
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gave me pause before I endorse it but I
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stand by my endorsement of shrek it's
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really good to watch it again all right
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in a previous podcast I didn't even
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mention this when we were listening all
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the rules and conditions and terms that
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precede this a this podcast i mentioned
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in our superhero episode three works as
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movie megamind which not for me to have
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the incomparable praise will ferrell
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movies but i really like megamind I
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think it's you know it's not the
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incredibles but what is but I actually
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think it's a very good movie and it's
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the DreamWorks animated movie that i
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have liked the best
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and in that it's maybe not as brave a
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choice but the fact that they cast Brad
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Pitt as Superman and make him not even
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the villain but make him a coward
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uh-huh i think is kind of great anyway
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so good choice Lex Thank you Thank You
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so my choice is the neverending story
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and this is a little bit of an older
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kids movie I think about when I showed
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it to my kids and when i'm thinking of
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things I want my children to see it's
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like the same criteria said before so
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it's something that I loved as a kid
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something that I think has redeeming
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value but the third category is
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something that I think will like bring
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them into the next stage of emotional
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development or whatever so obviously
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when the kids are very young you're
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showing them only very gentle rated g
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movies you don't be scared you're trying
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to figure out what your kid is like is
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the kind of kid who is going to run
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screaming from the room the moment
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something scary comes on the screen your
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power so as the kids get older you start
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to get a feel for what they can handle
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and the neverending story for me I saw
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when I was much older them then when I
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showed it to my children but I remember
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just being it being like the the most
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emotionally wrenching movie i had seen
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to date because apparently i had only
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been exposed to I guess star was
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probably would have been worse but that
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was just so ingrained in my psyche that
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it wasn't like i don't know i i'd seen
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it so many times you know I couldn't
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really remember what those scenes did to
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me in the same way about the neverending
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story it's like it's gonna be like a
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fairy tale and we're going to see you
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know princesses and it's like a boy and
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a horse you don't know anything about
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what I'm always gonna be like before you
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go into it when your kid and the stuff
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that happens in that movie like it it's
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not it's not the wire ok it's not it's
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not gritty drama or whatever but for
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it's very very intense and and that's
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that's what sticks with me about the
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movie and I wanted to show it to my
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children to sit to sort of open up that
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world of deeper emotions associated with
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movies where there's not there's not
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slapstick it's not the hero is not
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protected by by the magic script and
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everything turns out okay for them and
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you know like it's more of a movie with
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an arc and at the same time I think it's
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great for kids because it's got you know
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monsters and and berries and magic and
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and and the framing story of a boy is of
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a similar age you know and all that
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stuff up so really i was going to my son
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who was it was seven my daughter is a
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tough cookie and she wants to see
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everything that he sees and she's not
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really scared by stuff but i think i
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think a lot of it was lost on her but
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for a seven-year-old boy think it's
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about the right age as long as I can be
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too scared by this type of thing to
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expose them to this movie and the real
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test of what that the part where i was
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watching i do this one I'm trying to
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make it i will it i watch her with them
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but a certain point i'm not watching the
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movie i'm watching them to see what
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their little faces do and you know
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something obviously if my daughter
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leaves the room she to the board or
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scared or if she wants that curl with me
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or whatever my son is kind of past the
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age where you will curl up he's got a
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little bit of a macho thing going but
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you can see it on his little face so the
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scene i always think about my was
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watching then watch this movie was when
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the horse our text starts to sink in
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that was the name of that the swamps of
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sadness or something like that where
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went that as you get more sad that the
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the swamp follows you and the only way
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the hero can stay above this by keeping
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himself for being said but eventually
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they been wandering this month or so
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longer the horse starts to lose heart
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and the horse starts to sink and pretty
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much in every movie these kids had seen
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up to that point when you have a scene
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like this where you know environment or
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monsters about to eat the beloved you
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know pet or especially with animals so
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much it seems like it's almost easier
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and kids movies to off a bunch of kids
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are getting my monsters but never the
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pets right so the horse starts to sink
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and i know you gotta keep trying artex
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you got you got to believe whatever
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eventually the horse gets out and
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the triumphal music plays after the sad
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music and yes you rescue the horse and
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wasn't that close this one
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no the horse sinks she sinks into the
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mud and the kids left sitting there
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covered in mud and his favorite little
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horse is now dead and that like that's
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the turning point I feel like that was a
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turning point in my childhood that like
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the whole the horses got no he's going
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to come out of that mud right
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no no it's gone I mean obviously they
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have the big turnaround the end where
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the entire world is reconstructed and
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thats all thats when it would then you
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know so it's not it's not a downer movie
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for kids but there's so many parts of
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the movie they're like that the hero in
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this movie doesn't do well in many of
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the hero type things in both the framing
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story and and then in the major story
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things go very badly and not badly in a
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way that you think can be recovered by
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the end of the movie just Little Rock's
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floating in space and everybody's
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depressed and everything nice creampie
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why are you reading me this thing yeah
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thats good friends private princess
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bride sort of goes like that but it's
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more slack it's kind of like you're
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talking about how shrek makes the scary
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undercutting them with humor right this
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beyond that were you know where you can
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say no we're actually not going to
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undercut this for you you know like
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stepping up the ladder of you know
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movies that you might watch because I
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feel like you have to see a movie like
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you're exposed to I don't like like a PG
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I can't think of a good example but yeah
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this movie is it definitely kids movies
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for kids and stuff in it for kids it's
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it's aimed at that age group but but it
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pushes the kids and if you should if you
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were to showcase you go to write from
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like a Disney friendly movie to one of
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those movies that supposed to have
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dramatic things happen and it said
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things happen I don't know they would
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make the transition or it was just like
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bounce off them or they were rejected or
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whatever and this is just a great bridge
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movie into the larger world of movies or
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actual dramatic things app I've never
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seen this moving never oh my god you
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need to see the smoke now sit in this in
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rewatch I must admit I have only seen
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some of the neverending oh my god i
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thought this is one of these movies that
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like every text is that why you didn't
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do the holiday a christmas story in the
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holiday movies you've never seen a Jason
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and I have seen that you can talk about
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seen that so it once what I will say
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what i will say on re watching this
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movie because the memories of this movie
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loomed very very large in my head and so
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we're watching with my kids was the
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first time I'd watched it I don't know
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decades a long long time and it had it
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it held up pretty well but it did have
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that that thing that most kids movies
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that you haven't seen in awhile have is
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that a you don't realize how short it is
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like that there's like five scenes you
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know it's like this happens that happens
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that I'm in the end users like wow that
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seems so much longer the ark and the
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journey of this hero seem like so much
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more arduous and really it's like yet 20
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minutes of film right because when your
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kid the time expands and you feel like
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the movies longer so the movie is
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shorter than you think and I was also
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worried about the effects because it's
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all know what year was this movie made a
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1984 so it's all latex and there's not
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even any green screen is just latex and
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strings and maybe there's a little bit
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of green screen at one point that's what
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I was gonna ask you that I feel like the
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effect would appear dated to fit the
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effects are dated but the movie doesn't
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hinge on them especially I i would say
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that the parts they really work for me
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like a resemble the horse in the swamp
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it's a real horse ok so that works fine
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it's real mud it's real you know
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physical effects everywhere and even the
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bit were at one point I can't just ruin
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the horse time for Jason I love your
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kids will get hosting is dangerous
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student John I i'll take the boards at
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one point that that the hero is climbing
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on top of a giant beasts which I'm sure
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is like a model or miniature some sort
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of composite must have been done there
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but but it's a practical effect you know
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it was something with some it's all in
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camera or maybe some optical compositing
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but it comes off really well not the
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things that don't come up well as
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obviously the budget was low and set
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your small a lot of times they're
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they're inside a studio and they have to
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make it look like it's outside its
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clearly inside and it's kind of like it
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a bad TV show on PBS with a bunch of
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people wearing rubber latex stuff but
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that's just not what the movie is about
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and like so many of these things kids
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seriously can't tell i'm not getting
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back to another long-standing top that
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we should do a show about eventually but
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like video games when I show my children
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look very old video games they they
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honestly a cannot distinguish and be
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just can't tell you which game looked
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better or look fancier or is new or
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anything like that they just they just
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simply don't see it so the effects of
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this are dated but I still highly highly
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recommended and Jason yes I can't
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believe well you're probably too old to
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tune to get the magic this movie and you
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can sort of my kids
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it may be too intense for your younger
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child but alright I give it give it a
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watch by yourself you may have to get
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into that childlike mindset to get over
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the fact that it seems like you know
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it's like 90 minutes long or whatever it
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is it's there's not much there but trust
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me when your kid there's a lot there
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alright well i watch out for that i'll
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neverending story i had how do you feel
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about the sequel by the way out now this
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equals it's kind of like Star Wars those
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those are the movies just don't just
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pretend I'm not understood i just always
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think of them the the attorney John
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let's let's on the simpsons when he says
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you know this will be the biggest class
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that case online advertising Lionel hats
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this will be the biggest case of false
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advertising since the neverender is
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never ending story the neverending story
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that's that's what I think I don't think
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I ever even got through then everything
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started with her i think i started
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watching everything started part 2 and
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and watched like whatever year it came
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out and was just disgusted by it and
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said right now forget it
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no and if there are more movies it came
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out six years later and was it sounds
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like the the adaptation of this book was
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a complete disaster
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business-wise and he sued because he
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thought the movie was not enough like
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his book and you know there's a whole
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you can read it all on Wikipedia but
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yeah I know I never a movie is the movie
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I've never had any knowledge of the book
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and all I know is the second movie was
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so awful that even or whatever age I was
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at that time I could not watch it and
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then I think I rode off
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it's very impressive that something
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called the neverending story actually
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that's what does see it doesn't actually
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I don't want to ruin it ok that there is
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a point of the story which I my children
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quiz me on this to at the end of the
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thing that likable then why was it
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called a never-ending started to explain
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it Im hopefully I won't have I want two
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horses to you Jason wants to do with a
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dead horse but rather to be glue in
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rather than beating a dead horse
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let's move on i am going to talk about
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well maybe we'll do a second round here
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for a quick a quick second round but
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first let me talk about my three good
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oh boy i'm going to talk about the iron
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giant a strange lost movie for I think
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it's now being recognized as a classic
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but it didn't really do when it came out
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written and directed by brad bird you
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may have heard of him
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he he he went on to do the incredibles
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and ratatouille and and mission
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impossible for I guess right John
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yeah but just so that today it was no
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incredible tell you that now but what is
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again the iron giant I is a traditional
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hand-drawn cel animation are animated
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feature voice I don't know who the kid
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the voice of the kid is his mom is
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jennifer aniston his buddy is a is Harry
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Connick and the voice of the Iron Giant
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is Vin Diesel and unrecognizable
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basically as the Iron Giant and it's
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just it's set in the fifties in height
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of the Cold War and an alien robot that
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alien robot killing machine crashes to
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earth and is essentially taken in by a
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kid who learns to hide them in his barn
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and learns how to how to feed him metal
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scraps in order to in order to keep him
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alive and and it's just it's an
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incredibly sweet story it's got some
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scary parts where the the where the kid
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discovers the giant this kid Hogarth
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whole Garth as the giant says and it's a
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and the army there's that there's a a a
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really awful kind of slimy government
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man whose God who is the actor place
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that mr. McDonald christopher mcdonald
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who does a great job playing slimy guys
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in general invested a fantastic job
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playing that the government man who
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comes John Mahoney is is the army
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general he kind of dupes into the into
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into believing that there's a giant bear
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giant robot there which turns out there
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is a giant robot there it and and so
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then the Army's called and they're going
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to destroy the robot they're gonna and
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it gets dark they're going to the US
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Army is going to nuke this seaside town
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in Maine in order to protect the rest of
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the country from this robot who is not
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threatening anybody and uh and so the
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robot has to save the day and and it's
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just a and there's a their references
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for superman and and the robot has
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aspirations the robot is a killing
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machine that is rethinking its
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programming so there's kind of an
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anti-war message and how even though
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even people with weapons or robots who
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are weapons can choose not to use them
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which actually made me think a little
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bit of war games when I when I watched
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it seems like it's got a simple it's a
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it's a an anti-war movie about weapons
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anyway I think it's a fantastic movie
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that is overlooked because it you know
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it's not a Disney movie it's not a Pixar
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movie kind of fell through the cracks
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and and it and yet anybody who loved
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pixar movies including including the
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movies by brad bird really should check
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out the iron giant I i do believe that
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it is an animation classic that just is
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not as widely known as it should be
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because it was released by Warner
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Brothers i think in kind of sunk beneath
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the sea when it was initially released
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but it is it has become a classic what
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kind of animation is it is a computer
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animators you know it sell it sell
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hand-drawn cel animation to a lot of
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talk about the Iron Giant is CG though
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so that's one of the is one of the first
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movies to use computer graphics in a in
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a Cell drawn movie so they don't make it
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doesn't see Jason she in the same way
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that a lot about is Rama in futurama cg
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it's a siege its 3d animation affecting
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a 2d look exactly
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yeah and that was one of the first
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movies to do that and I think it works
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extremely well because they chose to do
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all the humans obviously and hand
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drawings and all the backdrops more or
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less it sometimes they do vehicles and
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roads and camera pans with some 3d
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romantic stuff but then the iron is
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and so he looks like the other and did
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the big imposing thing I'm a and gives
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that it's kinda like either use 3d and
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futurama suffix so to draw in
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traditional animation things with the
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sweeping cinematic camera moves that
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were used to nowadays it's very very
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difficult to draw that in a way that
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yeah that did you keep the perspective
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exactly right and the things don't look
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like they star becomes shape and whereas
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if you do 3d model you know swing the
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camera around all you want to the
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whatever dramatic scenes and they take
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advantage of that and that in this movie
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doing those type of camera moves and it
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and it makes the movie I remember him
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when I originally saw this movie I think
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I when I first came out it looks very
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very different from any other animated
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movie you've seen the same time you know
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it looks like traditional cel animation
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but it looks different and it's not and
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it's not really it's not just the art
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but it's also the setting this is this
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is a movie about the Cold War and the
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Red Menace and you know the fifties at
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and an age that I don't think really
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resonates with kids who heard it you
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know when that movie come out it was a
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1999 know seven or eight year old boy
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has any idea about anything about the
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fifties unless this is parents are
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history nuts you know me right but it
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resonates for people from the 50 so it's
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kind of a shame like this is a movie
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that like that like missed its audience
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where people who lived through an error
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i think would enjoy this movie but in my
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experience people who live in that area
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era are more dismissive animation movies
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you know those like is the kids movies
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like a cartoon or whatever this movie
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it's a great kids movie and I showed it
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to my children they enjoy it but they're
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they're missing so many levels of this
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movie I feel like this is a better movie
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for adults who are you not to be a baby
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were very cute baby over his kids of
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baby boomers whoever can appreciate
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animation without you know it at all
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levels without dismissing it because its
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animation because it really is it you
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know you could do a live action version
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this movie at with it with a different
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tone and would you know like all this
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such a serious important movie and the
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Oscars were but because it's animations
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like met you know some silly kids movie
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yeah well also the giant robot but but
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no i i i i agree with you i think that I
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it came out 99 I think that given how
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much fear people felt in you know in the
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decades that followed that the movie
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might see more relevant than I think
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everybody was feeling a little
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comfortable in 1999 and the idea that
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that you know the people are afraid and
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the government is afraid and there's
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paranoia only a few years later that
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that feeling was back and i think it had
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a little maybe more applicability than
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it did when it was released I know this
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is a little more symmetrical because the
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whole business was the iron giant being
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a weapon doesn't become weapon ice until
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he's attacked and that was much more of
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a cold war analogy and then the
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terrorism and yeah but it has the
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similar type of thing with people people
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living in fear right the military people
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you know being so afraid they're going
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to nuke town on their own soil that but
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there and indicates movie that actually
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its plot point is we're gonna drop a
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bomb on that's the thing like the big
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the big climactic emotional moment
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towards the end which lexus you seen
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interesting and kids love it but this
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whole other mass underneath the surface
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that's there for adults if they're you
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kind of like look past the parts that
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it's as successful as a Pixar movie and
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making sure that every single scene
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every single line works for every single
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very good and if there are not a lot of
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yeah i know it gets me it gets awfully
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dusty in that room every time they
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should put that little section and
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especially since for the rest of the
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movie you kinda like yeah I'm with this
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movie you know it's not like you know
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punch in the gut you kind of know what
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win and then again this is like got you
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all you got me again you know it sneaks
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yeah yeah really don't because it starts
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out and you're thinking oh this is just
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another kid's movie it's you know
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hand-drawn animated and it's like every
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so yeah and and I think that it's only
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unfolding for people who are her older
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plot-wise what's happening
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fine but there's one against though it's
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the boy's adventure of he's out yeah
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it's going to mysterious thing and it's
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their monster and the kids are worried
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eventually the kids are worried about
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the iron giant things very quickly you
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get on the side of the giant you know
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like that it for the kids it's an
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adventure story and they are concerned
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for the people that care about being in
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parallel you know right that would you
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say let you know what what age is the
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minimum age for appropriate because some
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of these topics like you know
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threatening the nooks and everything
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else had a little bit scarier than like
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a five-year-old friendly movie my pic I
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it all depends on your on your kids my
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kids are more comfortable with this at
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four or five-year let myself think my
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kids are pretty pretty sensitive and
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they were comfortable with this movie
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452 that's great
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there's a lot of Menace intention will
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watch it this week i think that the
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nuclear stuff and that all that I mean
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they're bad guys with guns and there's
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some threatening but it's all abstract
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and yeah it's surprisingly not not
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worrisome in in a way that some other
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movies might be so I think younger kids
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will like it because it because they
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don't identify with a boy and they left
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the robot very cool alright who doesn't
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yeah he's a friendly ribbon is Vin
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Diesel it's the best it's like that big
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diesels Carly forward to play
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Oh Garth it's um like I said it's the
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only movie of these three that's
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available to stream on netflix alright
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so should we go around really quickly
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and have another another set or or just
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talk about movies that we we should have
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talked about but didn't like what do you
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have what what what other movie do you
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mice um I'm not ashamed of this
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collection either although i think it's
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another unexpected one and I hear some
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shame creeping into your voice already
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there it is the 1995 Rosie O'Donnell to
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melanie griffith christina ricci hit now
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when that basically the female stand by
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me and the reason I pic now and then
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me ok and to apply I thought I i think
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it's i think that stand by me excuse
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scary and I I'm very sensitive to scary
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because i have a kid who's very
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sensitive scary things I think that now
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and that is overall much less scary when
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there's topics that are way over her
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head but it's I don't know now that is a
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very sweet movie i think they did a very
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nice job casting the adults with kids
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you know they were really nice job
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casting the kids to resemble and reflect
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the personalities of the adults
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oh I i know this movie I did not
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recognize it from the title go on it
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yeah but you know it's it's for
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childhood friends you see them as
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they're adults first and then you go
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back and see them when they're young and
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it's just their lives in the summer of
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nineteen seventy and it's I don't know
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it's it's it's very well done and
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basically if you've seen a few scenes to
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him by me it'sit's kind of that movie
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only girls and but another dead body
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there's well there's there's no dead
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no suppose you're spoiling our stories
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for our for Jason I haven't seen this
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movie you notice how we don't care about
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spoiling for the audience but somehow
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spoiling it for people on the podcast
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online there there's the audience knew
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what they were getting into right
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there's an intense séance seem that's
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the sarkodie this movie is the séance
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science but it's I don't know it's very
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i would say this is it you know it's not
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exactly a tearjerker movie but the the
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friendship feels very real you feel like
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the girls must have been friends onset
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if you're watching as an adult and I
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don't know and it's there's a lot you
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know the when John was before was
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talking about how sometimes movies that
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you appreciate it as a kid don't hold up
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and i don't know i was i was 15 when it
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came out so I wasn't so so young but
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sometimes I noticed in movies that i
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really liked that the when there's child
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actors that the acting doesn't hold up
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that you don't realize how bad you know
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mary-kate and Ashley Olsen were at the
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time but not there in this movie but the
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the kid acting really holds up and I
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mean really Wilson's it and she's always
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really good i don't know i really like
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it i think it's very sweet and it has
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nice the girls learn nice lessons that I
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like my girls to learn and I think it's
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very very sweetly doesn't show my
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ten-year-old daughter watches people
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actually just kind of young adult almost
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always stand by me is definitely young
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adult and this is true that's just this
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is closed too young to die just that
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still counts as a kid but I i endorse
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this movie too although i had not
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remembered that existed until I pulled
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up on stage and I realized yes I've seen
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this many many times and I endorse this
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selection even more than Shrek probably
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why don't you it's it's very sweet
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it's a very sweet movie and it's got
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Hank Azaria to I just remembered him all
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right now and then
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yes all right John when I will continue
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this theme with with a movie that i have
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tried to show my daughter but my
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daughter is four and she's not ready for
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this movie and there is nothing scary in
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well maybe her four-year-old this little
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scene suspension but it's one of my
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favorite movies as an adult one of my
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wife favorite movies and yes i'm
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cheating piece is not actually a movie
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it's I don't know what you want to call
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it a miniseries its its many hours but
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it's not a television series and its I
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don't know maybe his television series
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people could tell me it's anna Green
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Gables has anyone seen that the it's a
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miniseries I'll get 40 it's it's because
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it's not a TV series really it's a
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miniseries that they play abs like a
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really long movie right I think that's
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fair that's based on the Lucy Maud
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Montgomery books that I've never read
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that my wife has read but if there's one
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set of you know movies or TV show
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whatever that I want that I think I
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a young girl would like obviously older
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it's these because they're just it's
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just a gentle sweet story about coming
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of age for girl I it's supposed to I
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don't know what year it takes places so
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the nineteen hundreds 1905 or whatever
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so things were different back then but
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it manages not to be a sort of images
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not to dwell on the difference between
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gender roles now and then and has a
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strong female character as the lead and
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she comes of age and is you know
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self-possessed intelligent confident her
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of all there are obviously as a romance
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angle her you know she goes on later and
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of Avonlea of things to be successful in
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her professional life doesn't spend your
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time worrying about romance and boys and
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stuff like that and and but and green
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gables forget the and family which is
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kind of more of young adult and green
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gables has that she's an orphan she gets
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adopted by these these are friendly
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older people and there's some you know
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things that happened there that are
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somewhat dramatic but just it's
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basically a series of vignettes it's a
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lot like a little house on the prairie
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which I have a feeling that everyone
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back and watched I would find doesn't
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hold up as well as I thought I did my
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sister loves left my free to yeah
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but-but-but I am gables and evidently i
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have seen in my adult life and I really
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believe they do hold up and I just think
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they're beautiful sweet little stories
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and i can't wait until my daughter is
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old enough to watch them and appreciate
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them the way I do
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wikipedia agrees with you referring to
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it as a TV movie but it's got a running
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time of a hundred ninety nine minutes so
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it was generally aired into but it sure
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I think you can call that I very long
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movie and it was released theatrically
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all 3 at wrigley in Europe Israel and
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Japan so there it's a film John did you
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watch the the 2008 release that
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wikipedia talks about the fourth in the
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series and of Green Gables a new
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beginning I was aware that existed I
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believe I may have tried to watch a few
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minutes of it and then ran away and
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discuss similar to a neverending story
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part but it has this great line
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wikipedia the film is both the sequel
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and a prequel to soul of astrology I
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mean that to me is because it's it's the
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neverending story
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it's just yeah no that's good that's
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great when I that came out a little
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seeing this one have not seen it this
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one I don't have the heart heartily
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recommend her daughter holding in 10
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maybe she's too mature for now we'll
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find it went being babyish but I give it
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a try if it sticks that she like Little
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House on the Prairie have an exposure to
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that she's real I think she read a
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couple of books so yeah I will give it a
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shot i'll report back and try watching
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yourself it's gonna seem like it's I
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don't know it you have you have to have
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a certain temperament I hate to sound
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sexist but it's this people say this
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movies and it girls but I really like
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this movie i'm definitely not a girl and
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I i think it's great for boys as well
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but you do have to we're talking about
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Kiki but I think there's a certain
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mindset you have to begin to appreciate
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this movie as an adult and it's a good
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mindset to get into it's not a check
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your brain to the door mindset so we're
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gonna try your side with my wife
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I'm looking forward to it my second
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selection i'm going to i'm going to be a
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proxy for Monty Ashley who could not be
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here tonight he basically forgot
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shame shame auntie but I was with his in
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your selection Monty wanted to to talk
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about this movie and it was on my list
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as well which is the muppet movie the
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original original Muppet movie which is
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it's a movie with puppets and they're
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funny and they they do songs and some of
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the songs are sweet and some of the
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songs are wacky and there are celebrity
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cameos and you know already from the 70
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yeah they're corneal from the seventies
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and before ya up there are corny jokes
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and you know what I've watched this
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movie a couple of times with my kids and
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everybody seems to have a good time
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it's just it's a sweet movie it's got
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some some jokes that I probably like
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more than i should just because I have
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such fond memories of seeing this movie
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when I was a kid but um and and of
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course the moment that was a kid that
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blew my mind and I think I mentioned
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this in a previous podcast is that
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moment where you see Kermit the Frog
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riding his bicycle and you see his legs
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moving pushing the devil's little that's
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foreshadowing is
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far as a major it's a major plot point
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where frogs legs could be importantly so
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if you had said frog leg with Kermit
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safe because he doesn't have legs
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release we've never seen ya what Charles
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Durning looks happy 6a pop yeah yeah
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Charles turning a fine role as doc
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hopper there's a giant you know what a
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giant beaker runs rampant you know
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it'sit's and it and it's also got a
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story within a story right because it
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ends up that the movie is telling the
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like it's not even like a
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straightforward framing story it's like
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meta storytelling like what's going on
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this movie is the movie i'm watching the
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movie you're watching the movie of the
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movie was just a movie of the movie the
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movie it's one of those pictures it's
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got a picture of itself and it just
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keeps going infinitely so anyway the
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muppet movie I what else can you say
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that I i love it
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The Muppets are are there they're hard
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it's the you know how many puppet movie
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french spices exist out there about the
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dollar store which also could have
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listed an elaborate those the two other
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ones that cover speaking of puppet
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movies and Jim Henson yeah and they're
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there are other good Muppet fine Muppet
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movies too but the muppet movie i think
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is and i haven't seen the new one so i
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can I was about to ask i haven't watched
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the old ones get real the real voices
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yeah you know that's true that this is
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the this is your your jim hansen and
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Frank Oz and right if I think that's
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that is the challenge with today is that
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they all sound like they have head colds
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yeah yeah well how do you rank the other
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movies can you speak to that really
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because my favorite is always been the
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muppets take manhattan but you're going
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back to the original I feel like the
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original one is to like certainly my
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kids would enjoy that i should show it
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to them because the Muppets are just
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inherently funny but I feel like they
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wouldn't have a clear understanding of
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what the heck is happening in the story
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especially because you know they're
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watching it at home and not in a movie
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theater but when ya don't think it
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matters because it's just kind of you
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know a frog and a bear and a Studebaker
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going across the country having
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adventures and there's big bird and then
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they are in a church for a while and
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minutes like a I mean it's like a road
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movie it's a caper
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it's a series of unconnected and random
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events and bear left right frog and
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speakers which is the best of elements
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have you know a road trip and big bird
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and unconnected randomness i will say i
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wouldn't put it on my list of the best
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but a very good Muppet friendly movie is
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is follow that bird when big bird gets
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lost man to find a big and it's it's
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really well done
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all right just throw that out there ok I
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to answer your question in my mind the
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movie is without peer
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and then there are many of perfectly
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Muppet productions after that I i I've
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rarely seen them up a movie that I
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didn't find you know least worth my time
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to watch it because there are things you
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can find in some of them i found to be
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pretty good but in my mind this is the
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one that's the definitive one now I
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tried to show this to my kids and I
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think the missing they they seem not to
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be engaged by it as much as I thought
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they would and I think the main problem
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is that i grew up watching them up and
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show every single night it was almost
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like my ritual right and you become
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something like see you I want right from
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Sesame Street smooth transition directly
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into the muppet show which is like on
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right before my bedtime right right so
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I'm so invested in the muppets the world
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of them up with these characters that
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seeing them in a movie it's like you
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and now there's a whole movie of puppets
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and it was just but if you've never seen
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them up as before with my kids didn't
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because they hadn't spent a lot of time
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with sesame street and had never seen
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them up and show it all
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it was like what why should I care about
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these characters and I guess I didn't it
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didn't it didn't hook into them
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yeah there's a business context there
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when we saw Kermit singing in the swamp
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like you know in the rainbow connection
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and all that you know like that we we
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already were on board with come around
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the karma train already I but with my
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kids to like yes what am I you know why
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do I care about this frog
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yeah yeah i know i think if you were to
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plot making your children love the
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Muppets you would need to start with the
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muppet row which is a lot easier love
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like you sketch comedy yeah stick you
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know right up their alley right all the
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celebrity appearances are again not
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perhaps have have the you know I think
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when you're a kid I I don't think you
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care right it's like well
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our car goes on there so they can have
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this episode's right and saying look
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look how young is surprised you didn't
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choose luke from The Muppet Show in your
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character draft I well not to disparage
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more camels acting ability but you're
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gonna pick one actor from the Star Wars
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saga with Harry go with Harrison Ford ok
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I'm ok with you he could have been awash
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I guess because remember it was casting
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right firefly right I got that would
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have been funny but before we go I want
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to go around and just see I know we've
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got some other movies that we didn't
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mention let's uh not to stave off some
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of the angry emails say why didn't you
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mention this and mention a few more if
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you've got any any others on your list
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that you didn't get a chance to talk
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about now is your chance to just throw
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him out there Lex what you have
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well I i mentioned it be some of the
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beginning but the two that you've done
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shows about that I really I i haven't
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shown either to my kids yet but I'm
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eager to our back to the future trilogy
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and the princess bride because i like
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those movies can't I like the movies now
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and I think they're gonna really like
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them to my kids like the princess bride
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and we have watched the first two back
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to the future movies and thats not
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pretty well those repeat those RPG and I
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i have to point out to my daughter you
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yeah they said a bad word there but you
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know but we're going threw him out there
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they are and they're enjoyable why my
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son wants a hoverboard now so mission
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accomplished you know they exist but the
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toy the toilet won't let him sell them
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yeah yeah that's what I hear John what
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I already threw out the only with you I
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had a labyrinth of the Dark Crystal both
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of which are also a little bit intense
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and scary and our kind of the meeting I
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don't think dark crystal holds up as
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well as I thought it would but again for
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because it's so dark and crystally I
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guess I i like i like expose my kids
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stuff like that when I think they're
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ready and labyrinth I I like as a good
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strong female protagonist to isn't so
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strong in the beginning and find
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strength right it's not as it's not the
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feminist fairy tale that it really could
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be but it's it's very amusing and also
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as a little bit sinister and it's got a
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kind of a scary David Bowie in their
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right mind third that I that I would
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like to mention even though it wasn't
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one of my first two selections is babe a
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movie about a pig that learns to be a
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I you know I love this movie
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it's kid-friendly it's a little scary in
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the sense that it does mention that
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people eat animals but you know they do
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and and so it's it needs to be known
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james cromwell great performance it is
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the problem with babe is that babe led
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to a slew of computer graphic enhanced
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talking animal movies the most if not
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all of which are terrible but babe
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itself i have to say it is it is like an
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animated movie it except it is live
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action with some CG it is weird and
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silly and a fairy tale about a pig that
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learns to purge sheep by talking to them
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and recently with them and asking them
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nicely if they wouldn't mind being
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herded and it's a it's adorable and I
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just showed this to my son about a month
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ago and he got a-you got a real kick out
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of it so I i love that movie too
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kids love animal movies yeah you know
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it's it's you know you mentioned animals
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i had considered putting chicken run on
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my list but i decided to doesn't hold up
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as well either wallace and gromit yeah
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that whole that whole you know
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arbonne animation world I've shown my
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kids and they really do love it but a
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lot of the I don't know if kids get
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I don't think they do so then that's
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right out the window at them and a lot
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of the charm the British charm they
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don't have a cultural context for and
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finally I think a lot of the lot of
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humor like a grommets expressions with
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his eyebrows are expressing feelings
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that they don't get relate to yes but
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but they put they enjoy it just on the
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level of like oh you know there's a
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little dog in this slapstick also showed
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my kids recently shown the sheep and the
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state looks really i was going to say
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have you sit should kiss on the sheet
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because my kids love love insanely love
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Shaun the Sheep which is also argument
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yeah and that's it's it's basically like
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a silent movie shown the shape is not
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there's no there's and the animals don't
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they just go about their business and do
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their little slapstick think so yeah
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alright so i think we've reached the end
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of our time but i think given the fact
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that we had many people say they would
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do this and disappear at the last minute
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it was just the three of us I think we
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can put some great selections things
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racine which actually excites me because
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I can go and watch those and show those
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now that is called them for you well I
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will not be surprised when the horse
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sinks into the don't i won't i won't be
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now i might have to hold my wife's hand
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part just because already so why did you
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show this to our kids
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yeah what are you doing it's jhanjar get
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my bleep John show and she'll say you
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always blame him for everything you just
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alright so this is great we should
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probably do this again sometime because
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there is an endless supply of and I
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for people who are either in that
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childlike frame of mind as you said John
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or have kids and are wondering what they
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should show them I think coming up with
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suggestions and talking about them a
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there's a lot of fun so we should do it
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again sometime anyway so until our next
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edition of the incomparable I want to
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thank everybody for listening i want to
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Lex Friedman thank you for being here
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and coming with such interesting and
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delightful suggestions
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thank you always a pleasure i was
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interested and delighted you see and
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John siracusa thank you very much for
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coming as well thanks jason and i hope
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you remain a child at heart
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always always and thanks to everybody
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for listening for the uncomfortable
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understand snow will see you next time
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