The Incomparable

◼   ► ok [TS]

◼   ► the incomparable podcast number 84 [TS]

◼   ► market 2012 we're back on the [TS]

◼   ► incomparable podcast I am Jason Snelling [TS]

◼   ► your host and i'm joined by a single [TS]

◼   ► guest this time it is John siracusa hi [TS]

◼   ► John [TS]

◼   ► hello Jason we are here to talk about [TS]

◼   ► the films of one particular director and [TS]

◼   ► the it is heiio miyazaki the Japanese [TS]

◼   ► director of animated films many of which [TS]

◼   ► are near and dear to our hearts so we [TS]

◼   ► thought we would take some time and and [TS]

◼   ► we've been running up to this because we [TS]

◼   ► did our children's film episode where we [TS]

◼   ► talked about this a little bit and in [TS]

◼   ► the in the draft of films John [TS]

◼   ► specifically avoided drafting miyazaki [TS]

◼   ► movies and I had one of my own honorable [TS]

◼   ► mention but I didn't draft any anyway [TS]

◼   ► but you may you may or may not i mean [TS]

◼   ► he's kind of a cult figure right i mean [TS]

◼   ► the people who know him really know him [TS]

◼   ► and love him and then there's lots of [TS]

◼   ► people I think who quite sadly have no [TS]

◼   ► idea who this guy is and he's actually [TS]

◼   ► one of the great figures in animated [TS]

◼   ► film history [TS]

◼   ► yeah I'm kind of disappointed in our [TS]

◼   ► crop of nerds that I thought there would [TS]

◼   ► be more miyazaki nerds even you were not [TS]

◼   ► a miyazaki nerd you had seen some and [TS]

◼   ► like them but you have to do a bunch of [TS]

◼   ► homework for this episode to go back and [TS]

◼   ► watch the newcomers I thought for sure [TS]

◼   ► they would be a better representation in [TS]

◼   ► the incomparable crew of people who are [TS]

◼   ► really into anime or no miyazaki is but [TS]

◼   ► it looks like it was just me and then [TS]

◼   ► you as the person who was willing to [TS]

◼   ► well as the host as the host I am always [TS]

◼   ► up for well that's not true there are [TS]

◼   ► some things that I'm not going to the [TS]

◼   ► research on but in this I was happy to [TS]

◼   ► do it because a couple of his movies are [TS]

◼   ► among my favorite movies of all time and [TS]

◼   ► ones that i love watching with my kids [TS]

◼   ► and so I was happy to explore further [TS]

◼   ► but it's true i'm sure there are some [TS]

◼   ► listeners out there who cannot believe [TS]

◼   ► that we couldn't chin up a third or [TS]

◼   ► fourth guest for this episode but I [TS]

◼   ► figured at this point you know between [TS]

◼   ► the two of us to to survey this guy's [TS]

◼   ► career when we're talking about miyazaki [TS]

◼   ► with what does he have like nine feature [TS]

◼   ► film [TS]

◼   ► so there's a lot to talk about i think [TS]

◼   ► we could probably go film by film and [TS]

◼   ► talk about them a little bit and [TS]

◼   ► honestly i think that that we could take [TS]

◼   ► one or two of these movies and spend a [TS]

◼   ► full hour just on them so between the [TS]

◼   ► two of us you can you can go you can go [TS]

◼   ► with a deep knowledge or i guess the [TS]

◼   ► broad knowledge of his career and I can [TS]

◼   ► go deep with a few films and then I can [TS]

◼   ► chime in on a few others but so so where [TS]

◼   ► should we start hehe miyazaki actually [TS]

◼   ► did some some comics some manga before [TS]

◼   ► he he started doing films right that's [TS]

◼   ► one thing I don't know about i'm not a [TS]

◼   ► miyazaki historian and i followed his [TS]

◼   ► career from so my understanding is that [TS]

◼   ► NASA is actually based among get that he [TS]

◼   ► working out yeah a lot of his movies are [TS]

◼   ► based on works that are not his so he's [TS]

◼   ► right one of those people who have to [TS]

◼   ► write everything that he creates or [TS]

◼   ► originated the intellectual property as [TS]

◼   ► we now called right right and he's also [TS]

◼   ► got some interesting at these films are [TS]

◼   ► fascinated me the first the first movie [TS]

◼   ► of his that I saw was actually spirited [TS]

◼   ► away which won the Oscar for Best [TS]

◼   ► Animated Feature and that is a that is a [TS]

◼   ► really strange movie and I remember [TS]

◼   ► seeing it and thinking parts of this are [TS]

◼   ► really beautiful and then there are [TS]

◼   ► things that happen in the plot that I i [TS]

◼   ► just got the distinct feeling that [TS]

◼   ► despite all of the presumably careful [TS]

◼   ► translation that went into the movie in [TS]

◼   ► making it for an english-speaking [TS]

◼   ► audience that the that they were massive [TS]

◼   ► cultural gaps that I could not [TS]

◼   ► understand that and I kept thinking to [TS]

◼   ► myself I'm sure what I just saw it made [TS]

◼   ► sense to people in Japan but i have no [TS]

◼   ► idea what is going to happen now like [TS]

◼   ► took things that happen completely out [TS]

◼   ► of the blue at which I actually love I [TS]

◼   ► mean there's some scenes in there that [TS]

◼   ► that I wear it in spirited away where [TS]

◼   ► there's that what the the faceless the [TS]

◼   ► no-face guy and he ends up like vomiting [TS]

◼   ► everything its he's eaten and and I [TS]

◼   ► thought well sure of course that would [TS]

◼   ► happen he there's like a slug that gets [TS]

◼   ► thrown up and mph at and it just it was [TS]

◼   ► so weird and and so I didn't watch any [TS]

◼   ► other movies of his for a while because [TS]

◼   ► that is a very strange movie I do [TS]

◼   ► have you watched any anime and your [TS]

◼   ► sordid past of being a teen comic book [TS]

◼   ► nerd so whatever [TS]

◼   ► no I am completely anime layered beyond [TS]

◼   ► the beyond the American a Americanized [TS]

◼   ► version of i guess it was a battleship [TS]

◼   ► yamato but its star Blazers basically [TS]

◼   ► with the only i'm only anime that I ever [TS]

◼   ► at that I ever saw and so when I saw [TS]

◼   ► spirited away I was like whoa this is [TS]

◼   ► interesting [TS]

◼   ► that's so so when you watch a lot of [TS]

◼   ► anime or I'll up you tend to get steeped [TS]

◼   ► in Japanese culture without even knowing [TS]

◼   ► you are because you don't know where [TS]

◼   ► these things come from but once you see [TS]

◼   ► the same type of thing in 20 different [TS]

◼   ► and you're like that must be a thing is [TS]

◼   ► surely these 20 different people aren't [TS]

◼   ► didn't arrive at this strange thing that [TS]

◼   ► strange to me as a westerner on their [TS]

◼   ► own and so by the time spirited away [TS]

◼   ► comes along if like me you spent here [TS]

◼   ► teen years watching all the anime you [TS]

◼   ► could find at speedway seems i mean i'm [TS]

◼   ► not going to say it's not weird it is [TS]

◼   ► weird but it's kind of like the same [TS]

◼   ► kind of weird that are used as [TS]

◼   ► consistent it [TS]

◼   ► yeah and within the realm of anime i [TS]

◼   ► would say that like if if you have never [TS]

◼   ► seen a movie before and then you saw I [TS]

◼   ► don't get to pick a director I gotta [TS]

◼   ► terrence malick Quentin Tarantino's I [TS]

◼   ► gave if there is something you know [TS]

◼   ► there are directors and his films and [TS]

◼   ► then there are the ones that we put up [TS]

◼   ► on pedestals these great directors or [TS]

◼   ► whatever [TS]

◼   ► anime is similar there's anime that's [TS]

◼   ► you know those Michael Bay anime to come [TS]

◼   ► to put it bluntly I and and then [TS]

◼   ► miyazaki is definitely one of those big [TS]

◼   ► names in Scorsese's the coppola he's [TS]

◼   ► right [TS]

◼   ► even the the quentin tarantino sometimes [TS]

◼   ► kind of all rolled into one so although [TS]

◼   ► i was a big anime fan when i was a teen [TS]

◼   ► as i got older i came to narrow my [TS]

◼   ► appreciation of Japanese animation so [TS]

◼   ► why I only want the good stuff kinda [TS]

◼   ► like you with the with watchman i just [TS]

◼   ► listened to that watchman episode where [TS]

◼   ► you said that after watch men you're [TS]

◼   ► like why why am i bothering with this [TS]

◼   ► yeah well read this crap because like [TS]

◼   ► look at the watchman showed how it's [TS]

◼   ► done and anything doesn't live up to [TS]

◼   ► that standard seems like I'm wasting my [TS]

◼   ► time [TS]

◼   ► so once I discovered this video jibley [TS]

◼   ► movies and miyazaki and discovered this [TS]

◼   ► little little [TS]

◼   ► tiny sliver as it isn't all media of [TS]

◼   ► really really great japanese animation i [TS]

◼   ► became much less interested in the more [TS]

◼   ► sort of schlocky stuff right and i'm [TS]

◼   ► sure i mean i-i don't wanna say anything [TS]

◼   ► negative about anime fans because I'm [TS]

◼   ► sure there's a lot of really cool stuff [TS]

◼   ► out there but i do get the sense that uh [TS]

◼   ► it can be well as an outsider I find [TS]

◼   ► that kind of off-putting right there's [TS]

◼   ► so much detail and people who know about [TS]

◼   ► this stuff and and so when I say we're [TS]

◼   ► spending an hour talking about a [TS]

◼   ► japanese animation director I know that [TS]

◼   ► might even come across as being kind of [TS]

◼   ► like really esoteric and I think that's [TS]

◼   ► the the primary point i wanted to get [TS]

◼   ► across in this episode is you know [TS]

◼   ► Miyazaki's got some stuff that's that's [TS]

◼   ► more out there but he's got some he's [TS]

◼   ► he's made some movies especially for [TS]

◼   ► kids that i would put up against any any [TS]

◼   ► movie made animated appropriate for [TS]

◼   ► children in the history of film he you [TS]

◼   ► know it's it is like you said he's not [TS]

◼   ► only a master of the anime shandra but [TS]

◼   ► he somebody who who really transcends it [TS]

◼   ► and that people who've never seen like [TS]

◼   ► me who've never been swimming in in [TS]

◼   ► anime can really appreciate the work [TS]

◼   ► he's done because it is remarkable some [TS]

◼   ► of the films are really transcended and [TS]

◼   ► once you've seen his work you watch [TS]

◼   ► other movies of his I've been doing it [TS]

◼   ► winding up you know my research for this [TS]

◼   ► episode and you will as with a great [TS]

◼   ► director you begin to see his style [TS]

◼   ► everywhere it in in his work and his [TS]

◼   ► influence and other work which is [TS]

◼   ► actually great so you know don't if you [TS]

◼   ► haven't seen miyazaki's movies we're [TS]

◼   ► going to talk about them but you should [TS]

◼   ► see them they're really good [TS]

◼   ► yeah and I think that that the the [TS]

◼   ► strangest of Japanese culture is kind of [TS]

◼   ► a barrier it it's maybe kind of like [TS]

◼   ► someone who hasn't read a lot of [TS]

◼   ► superhero comics and being able to [TS]

◼   ► appreciate the watchman because the [TS]

◼   ► watchman is in like a typical superhero [TS]

◼   ► comic but it really really helps to have [TS]

◼   ► a background in superhero comics to [TS]

◼   ► fully appreciated and so you don't get [TS]

◼   ► like put off by the things that are [TS]

◼   ► weird but that are not weird if you just [TS]

◼   ► soaked in superhero comics for four [TS]

◼   ► decades [TS]

◼   ► alright so something a lot of people i [TS]

◼   ► know we'll see Studio Ghibli movie or [TS]

◼   ► means [TS]

◼   ► documentary any kind of anime and our [TS]

◼   ► and can't get past the things they don't [TS]

◼   ► understand whether the japanese cultural [TS]

◼   ► things and make things are simply [TS]

◼   ► different standards and what we think [TS]

◼   ► it's appropriate to show two children or [TS]

◼   ► how you should be structured they can't [TS]

◼   ► get like they're looking at it they're [TS]

◼   ► expecting it to be like a Disney movie [TS]

◼   ► or even like a Pixar movie and I would [TS]

◼   ► say that miyazaki's movies as well see [TS]

◼   ► when we discuss them are so far from [TS]

◼   ► being like a Disney movie and they're [TS]

◼   ► far from being a Pixar movie they do not [TS]

◼   ► have any interest in the formula for [TS]

◼   ► american western movies for adults or [TS]

◼   ► children yeah they are structured [TS]

◼   ► differently the characters active and [TS]

◼   ► leave things happen there are different [TS]

◼   ► and it's sometimes difficult people to [TS]

◼   ► get a grip on ethnic and sometimes [TS]

◼   ► things happen [TS]

◼   ► I mean this is and this is my thought [TS]

◼   ► while watching spirited away again [TS]

◼   ► was I my wife and I watched that movie [TS]

◼   ► and am I turned to her and after this [TS]

◼   ► one scene which is something i think it [TS]

◼   ► might have been the vomiting it was [TS]

◼   ► something was something like that the [TS]

◼   ► stink spirit that enters the bathhouse I [TS]

◼   ► think it was the stink spirit and [TS]

◼   ► everybody's like oh its distinct spirit [TS]

◼   ► that it's here in the bathhouse and i [TS]

◼   ► turned my wife and I say of course right [TS]

◼   ► and and really it's that moment of like [TS]

◼   ► going with it just like I'm sure that [TS]

◼   ► there's a reason why this makes sense i [TS]

◼   ► have no idea what it is [TS]

◼   ► we'll just go with it you know and I [TS]

◼   ► love that it's kind of there are plot [TS]

◼   ► twist that happen in miyazaki movies [TS]

◼   ► that are that i love because i cannot [TS]

◼   ► anticipate them because all of my [TS]

◼   ► programming and as you said all of my [TS]

◼   ► Hollywood movie plot point programming [TS]

◼   ► fails and its crew actually it's great [TS]

◼   ► it's great to go wow I had no idea that [TS]

◼   ► would happen and you're completely [TS]

◼   ► unbored from what you realize it's kind [TS]

◼   ► of track that you've been on your on [TS]

◼   ► your honor on on the rails and you're [TS]

◼   ► moving through the plot and then with [TS]

◼   ► miyazaki realized that that you're not [TS]

◼   ► it's not really no there is no track [TS]

◼   ► it's a big open greenfield and you're [TS]

◼   ► lost in it yeah I i was feel that that [TS]

◼   ► Westerners get more of a kick out of [TS]

◼   ► miyazaki than even the Japanese because [TS]

◼   ► a lot of things that are boring and [TS]

◼   ► normal and expected in Japanese culture [TS]

◼   ► are exotic and strange to us [TS]

◼   ► you're like wow what that how could you [TS]

◼   ► come up with that idea and it's some [TS]

◼   ► sort of Japanese tradition for 300 years [TS]

◼   ► old that everyone in Japan knows about [TS]

◼   ► and it's not interesting to their eyes [TS]

◼   ► just like you know what I have all their [TS]

◼   ► washing the floors by holding little [TS]

◼   ► things and running with their little [TS]

◼   ► feet behind it like it's an interesting [TS]

◼   ► i'm now we came up with that like well [TS]

◼   ► couple centuries of Japanese culture [TS]

◼   ► brought that about [TS]

◼   ► yeah alright so i should be fun we [TS]

◼   ► should dive into one of ya so that his [TS]

◼   ► his first feature in the in the studio [TS]

◼   ► ghibli Cayman is naka of the valley of [TS]

◼   ► the wind from 1984 which is a nice post [TS]

◼   ► apocalyptic fantasy patrick stewart is [TS]

◼   ► the first voice we hear you know you're [TS]

◼   ► going to talk about the very act of this [TS]

◼   ► we do ya discussion dubbed vs sub well [TS]

◼   ► remember a brief moment on this so yes [TS]

◼   ► we should you watch the dubbed version [TS]

◼   ► of all these I i did I watched dubbed [TS]

◼   ► version even though in some cases i had [TS]

◼   ► access to the subtitled version i am a [TS]

◼   ► i'm a savage and also many of them i [TS]

◼   ► watch with my kids and it was really not [TS]

◼   ► an option to show that the the subtitle [TS]

◼   ► version so the reason most japanese [TS]

◼   ► animation fans dislike dub so much is [TS]

◼   ► that historically the people doing the [TS]

◼   ► dubbing or not talented and not numerous [TS]

◼   ► not numbers mean they have like one guy [TS]

◼   ► three voices in a movie and because they [TS]

◼   ► didn't really care you read the lines [TS]

◼   ► try to put something into it whatever we [TS]

◼   ► could have done after this we could have [TS]

◼   ► reached the voice of another character [TS]

◼   ► and had a four-person project [TS]

◼   ► yeah I call lots and that for the [TS]

◼   ► miyazaki movies though they were [TS]

◼   ► acquired by disney and everyone who's an [TS]

◼   ► animator worships miyazaki of the [TS]

◼   ► current generation of animators and so [TS]

◼   ► the deal was structured such that they [TS]

◼   ► couldn't touch the frame of the movies [TS]

◼   ► is understanding the content frame of [TS]

◼   ► the movies right so they couldn't chop [TS]

◼   ► it up into little pieces and the dubbing [TS]

◼   ► has been done with basically a-list [TS]

◼   ► actor so you talk about who who is a [TS]

◼   ► wife and pull of this page before I [TS]

◼   ► started this but who is voicing [TS]

◼   ► not Monica you've got Patrick Stewart [TS]

◼   ► that's not bad for a voice [TS]

◼   ► uma Thurman tile above isn't it actually [TS]

◼   ► chris sarandon from the princess bride [TS]

◼   ► is an edward james olmos and of course [TS]

◼   ► mark hamill is the mayor [TS]

◼   ► yeah its finest Joker from Batman so [TS]

◼   ► they're not skimping on the voiceovers a [TS]

◼   ► but that the one the one other reason i [TS]

◼   ► think most people who are into japanese [TS]

◼   ► animation won't admit why they like the [TS]

◼   ► listening to the Japanese is a side if [TS]

◼   ► they think they like they like learning [TS]

◼   ► japanese and it's interesting time for [TS]

◼   ► them to learn a foreign language and [TS]

◼   ► picking up words and phrases is because [TS]

◼   ► when I'm Westerners watch a an animated [TS]

◼   ► movie in Japanese they don't know and [TS]

◼   ► honestly don't know Japanese they can't [TS]

◼   ► tell when the acting is terrible and so [TS]

◼   ► they imagine that the acting and the [TS]

◼   ► dialogue is much better than it actually [TS]

◼   ► is [TS]

◼   ► sometimes it is great and is much better [TS]

◼   ► in fact almost all the time it is better [TS]

◼   ► than the dubs but in the ability to do [TS]

◼   ► not it and it's free because you're like [TS]

◼   ► well that the line could have been [TS]

◼   ► delivered terribly but i don't know what [TS]

◼   ► the worst words just me so I have to [TS]

◼   ► read the subtitles and then you're at [TS]

◼   ► the mercy of the person doing the [TS]

◼   ► subtitling which is also an issue right [TS]

◼   ► and the second reason is that when [TS]

◼   ► they've doubled it into English they [TS]

◼   ► tend to add stuff almost never remove [TS]

◼   ► the ad stuff and if you should try this [TS]

◼   ► experiment for a couple sections of the [TS]

◼   ► movie they will add usually expository [TS]

◼   ► dialogue that does not exist in the [TS]

◼   ► movie often when no characters on screen [TS]

◼   ► because they can't match it up with [TS]

◼   ► mouth movements because there's no no [TS]

◼   ► audio here at all and they're putting [TS]

◼   ► the exposition in there to try to [TS]

◼   ► explain to American audiences what the [TS]

◼   ► heck is going on something they wouldn't [TS]

◼   ► have to explain to Japanese audiences [TS]

◼   ► like oh this is the temple of whatever [TS]

◼   ► or this is where the spirits that were [TS]

◼   ► you know something that's like obvious [TS]

◼   ► to anyone in Japan and that kind of [TS]

◼   ► exposition is extremely grading to [TS]

◼   ► people who are you know it imagine they [TS]

◼   ► took your favorite movie just added a [TS]

◼   ► bunch of texts nothing worse than and [TS]

◼   ► expositions like it's okay just stop [TS]

◼   ► stop talking we know what this is and [TS]

◼   ► for someone who watches a lot of [TS]

◼   ► animation room Japan we know this stuff [TS]

◼   ► to we don't want those extra lines at [TS]

◼   ► its all these movies are filled with [TS]

◼   ► every all the ones that you watching the [TS]

◼   ► dubs and these are the some of the best [TS]

◼   ► dubs available anywhere good acting good [TS]

◼   ► effort generally an effort to be true to [TS]

◼   ► the spirit of the original lines and not [TS]

◼   ► a direct translation but anime nerds [TS]

◼   ► tend to like subtitles literal [TS]

◼   ► translations know adding of any words [TS]

◼   ► see I think that's a that's a high bar [TS]

◼   ► for for watching us that as a you know [TS]

◼   ► and and normally I would I mean I would [TS]

◼   ► always choose a in a live-action movie i [TS]

◼   ► would always choose the the subtitles [TS]

◼   ► over a dub I i feel like with with [TS]

◼   ► animation sense there is there's a [TS]

◼   ► degree of matching of the dialogue but [TS]

◼   ► you know it isn't it isn't an actor who [TS]

◼   ► spoke those lines at that time or or is [TS]

◼   ► looping their lines exactly it is you [TS]

◼   ► know an animation track that's recorded [TS]

◼   ► and then the air the audio track and [TS]

◼   ► then the animation happens so it's a [TS]

◼   ► little bit artificial so I feel like [TS]

◼   ► it's not that far removed as a as [TS]

◼   ► somebody who is not well versed in this [TS]

◼   ► stuff having those little bits of [TS]

◼   ► exposition probably helped me understand [TS]

◼   ► it and also i have to admit the miyazaki [TS]

◼   ► movies have have generally good dub [TS]

◼   ► tracks right like you said with with [TS]

◼   ► good actors and I i would rather watch [TS]

◼   ► the you know watch the animation then be [TS]

◼   ► distracted by having to stop looking at [TS]

◼   ► what's happening on screen in order to [TS]

◼   ► read and go back and forth that said i [TS]

◼   ► will probably go back and watch these [TS]

◼   ► movies it with the subtitles but as a [TS]

◼   ► first watch I really wanted to just have [TS]

◼   ► the experience of watching them and and [TS]

◼   ► not have to read the subtitles to go [TS]

◼   ► along with it but and if you and if you [TS]

◼   ► see these things enough times I think [TS]

◼   ► you'll be shocked to see [TS]

◼   ► wait isn't a dialogue during this [TS]

◼   ► section that's long sections long [TS]

◼   ► sections where there is no dialogue at [TS]

◼   ► all and it's so weird because very [TS]

◼   ► rarely in live-action like if you see a [TS]

◼   ► foreign live-action movie [TS]

◼   ► very rarely do they insert a bunch of [TS]

◼   ► English dialogue where there was no no [TS]

◼   ► lines at all from the actress because [TS]

◼   ► they happen to be off-screen huh [TS]

◼   ► interested and it's not eat they do a [TS]

◼   ► good job in these movies but large [TS]

◼   ► sections of the movies there is no one [TS]

◼   ► talking about anything and they just the [TS]

◼   ► plot advances by them showing pictures [TS]

◼   ► on the screen so when Master yuba [TS]

◼   ► emerges from the from the the horrible [TS]

◼   ► plague and we hear that he's patrick [TS]

◼   ► stewart or in your version great [TS]

◼   ► japanese actor Goro nya but I guess [TS]

◼   ► thank you wikipedia uh-huh [TS]

◼   ► anyway so that we should we should get [TS]

◼   ► on with with not [TS]

◼   ► which is I was surprised by it is this [TS]

◼   ► apocalyptic adventure story with what is [TS]

◼   ► that there's this there's this the toxic [TS]

◼   ► jungle the sea of decay that is [TS]

◼   ► destroying everything we're in like the [TS]

◼   ► far future and there's the apocalypse [TS]

◼   ► and and there's a princess of course [TS]

◼   ► who's like a fighter princess and I i [TS]

◼   ► was surprised by this movie I was my [TS]

◼   ► wife and i watch this without the kids [TS]

◼   ► it was a it's a it's it's really a crazy [TS]

◼   ► action movie more than anything else is [TS]

◼   ► not yet and and think consider this out [TS]

◼   ► you're saying this is his first movie I [TS]

◼   ► don't know about his history to say [TS]

◼   ► whether his first tooth he did movies [TS]

◼   ► before I think studio ghibli was formed [TS]

◼   ► proper I think they called consider this [TS]

◼   ► the first in the cannon right and and it [TS]

◼   ► really is like especially for someone [TS]

◼   ► who had seen kiki's delivery service in [TS]

◼   ► total it's not gonna watch a miyazaki [TS]

◼   ► movie probably weren't expecting like at [TS]

◼   ► a blockbuster action movie structured [TS]

◼   ► pretty conventionally from from the you [TS]

◼   ► know looking at the whole of his work [TS]

◼   ► you know it's it is like an action movie [TS]

◼   ► like where is this coming from is this [TS]

◼   ► and this is not like he eventually [TS]

◼   ► developed into making these big giant [TS]

◼   ► action movies not right out of the gate [TS]

◼   ► like it you know with his first official [TS]

◼   ► studio ghibli movie it is it you can [TS]

◼   ► imagine this as a Hollywood movie only [TS]

◼   ► of course you wouldn't have a female [TS]

◼   ► protagonist and the the plot would be [TS]

◼   ► different but like this threat this this [TS]

◼   ► post-apocalyptic world this giant [TS]

◼   ► insects there's battles there's Army's [TS]

◼   ► all that stuff like where is this the [TS]

◼   ► guy who made totoro the big floating [TS]

◼   ► teddy bear thing it's not the same got [TS]

◼   ► up at the end of the reason I wanted you [TS]

◼   ► to see this and a couple other ones too [TS]

◼   ► is that in many respects when I look at [TS]

◼   ► his work it seems like he's really made [TS]

◼   ► this exact same movie several time that [TS]

◼   ► without without with minor variations i [TS]

◼   ► think just a little bit that you've [TS]

◼   ► watched you can kinda see that in it [TS]

◼   ► ok it is and it is a different thread of [TS]

◼   ► his work he makes these movies that are [TS]

◼   ► smaller and quieter and quote unquote [TS]

◼   ► for kids [TS]

◼   ► this one was like four teenagers and not [TS]

◼   ► quite a lot smaller explosions there's [TS]

◼   ► guns there's blood this gut says [TS]

◼   ► everything [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's um it it reminded me you're [TS]

◼   ► right it was very different from the [TS]

◼   ► movies [TS]

◼   ► his that I had seen before it didn't put [TS]

◼   ► me in the mind of the you know extremely [TS]

◼   ► limited other kinds of Japanese [TS]

◼   ► animation that I've seen that were more [TS]

◼   ► of the action variety and I and I [TS]

◼   ► started to theorize as I was watching it [TS]

◼   ► you know maybe this is director who kind [TS]

◼   ► of went in the other direction a little [TS]

◼   ► bits and sort of like started with [TS]

◼   ► things that were more the usual subject [TS]

◼   ► matter and then you know and then kind [TS]

◼   ► of rebelled and did things that were [TS]

◼   ► very very different from these kind of [TS]

◼   ► sci-fi adventure stories but uh you know [TS]

◼   ► it was fun it was a lot of fun I mean [TS]

◼   ► there's the the the princess and she's [TS]

◼   ► got her she's got her like little flying [TS]

◼   ► machine right wing yeah yeah which is [TS]

◼   ► pretty cool and there's create the crazy [TS]

◼   ► giant bugs though move that that just [TS]

◼   ► kind of like they go on a rampage and [TS]

◼   ► made you know III they they come out of [TS]

◼   ► the out of the the jungle and they just [TS]

◼   ► keep running until you i guess like [TS]

◼   ► soothe them in some so I so I could be [TS]

◼   ► soothed admit they're ok strange even [TS]

◼   ► the subject matter see though it seems [TS]

◼   ► like to you that it is very similar to [TS]

◼   ► the typical anime subject matter [TS]

◼   ► post-apocalyptic world we are weird [TS]

◼   ► creature is fighting he treats me [TS]

◼   ► Rockies all of his movies are there's a [TS]

◼   ► definite flavor to them two totally [TS]

◼   ► separate them in my mind away from other [TS]

◼   ► anime and similar subject matter you can [TS]

◼   ► tell the second just just the way he [TS]

◼   ► treats the story and the characters and [TS]

◼   ► and how it's all built on us now but I [TS]

◼   ► don't think I'm spoiling anything for [TS]

◼   ► anyone who's an adult is going to watch [TS]

◼   ► this movie but like that and this this [TS]

◼   ► is a sequence you see many other things [TS]

◼   ► where there's an introduction to the [TS]

◼   ► world and then there's a credit sequence [TS]

◼   ► and I love his beautiful credit [TS]

◼   ► sequences where they will usually [TS]

◼   ► through still images or murals or [TS]

◼   ► whatever [TS]

◼   ► show some sort of like and here's the [TS]

◼   ► world you're entering into and as you [TS]

◼   ► know the credits roll over this musical [TS]

◼   ► score and it says like here's this world [TS]

◼   ► there was a world and then this these [TS]

◼   ► big Giants came along who have heads the [TS]

◼   ► top of which shaped like ballistic [TS]

◼   ► missiles hint hint everybody [TS]

◼   ► yeah and then the world ends and then [TS]

◼   ► you know that there's just these legends [TS]

◼   ► that you know that really show that [TS]

◼   ► being able to get that is a thing that [TS]

◼   ► he loves to do and it is pretty [TS]

◼   ► effective [TS]

◼   ► and that's kind of like your [TS]

◼   ► introduction to this world in any the [TS]

◼   ► entire movie is kind of a lot of his [TS]

◼   ► movies are like this i have a pretty [TS]

◼   ► simple message but they're delivered in [TS]

◼   ► a way that smuggles that message and [TS]

◼   ► much better than say like Wally like a [TS]

◼   ► you we should really put the earth like [TS]

◼   ► this one is basically hey we should [TS]

◼   ► really put the earth and we shouldn't [TS]

◼   ► kill each other with nuclear weapons [TS]

◼   ► beautiful poison yours for generations [TS]

◼   ► in order but as well as a younger kid [TS]

◼   ► when I first saw this I was fascinated [TS]

◼   ► by the sci-fi story like wow that would [TS]

◼   ► be like if the earth was totally [TS]

◼   ► wearable totally destroyed it was like [TS]

◼   ► 2,000 years after that reason but you [TS]

◼   ► know some people are still around how [TS]

◼   ► would they live it we like medieval it [TS]

◼   ► was kind of like or where they have [TS]

◼   ► technology and what kind of creatures [TS]

◼   ► would be prowling around within this [TS]

◼   ► world but they do have this you know [TS]

◼   ► flying message about can't we all just [TS]

◼   ► get along and don't poison the earth and [TS]

◼   ► don't be mean to the bugs and stuff like [TS]

◼   ► that but these characters and and the [TS]

◼   ► way they live and relate to each other [TS]

◼   ► in particular the way the protagonist [TS]

◼   ► like her path through the story is very [TS]

◼   ► very unlike anything in western movies [TS]

◼   ► like when you have a princess and a [TS]

◼   ► western movie she does not follow the [TS]

◼   ► plot arc this character follows in this [TS]

◼   ► movie [TS]

◼   ► definitely not this is the male lead [TS]

◼   ► role she's a hero [TS]

◼   ► she fights things she saves people but [TS]

◼   ► she does it in a way that's not male [TS]

◼   ► testosterone or whatever she's like [TS]

◼   ► she's like a pacifist hero like if we [TS]

◼   ► ever talk about return of the jedi we [TS]

◼   ► can discuss loser after all that she [TS]

◼   ► wants to go she finds the baby right she [TS]

◼   ► saves the babydome yeah that's like [TS]

◼   ► she's defending and she's helping the [TS]

◼   ► terrorists home baby yeah yeah and you [TS]

◼   ► know and cheap she fights but she also [TS]

◼   ► has you know typically stereotypical [TS]

◼   ► female sensibilities like I don't kill [TS]

◼   ► the baby bug you know and it this this [TS]

◼   ► also will talk about the other movies [TS]

◼   ► who is the enemy in this movie who is [TS]

◼   ► the antagonist [TS]

◼   ► well isn't the i mean it's like the the [TS]

◼   ► people with the guns right [TS]

◼   ► basically it's legal it's the soldiers [TS]

◼   ► in the government [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's not the Bugs know but they're [TS]

◼   ► things that kill everybody or whatever [TS]

◼   ► it's the people fighting each other but [TS]

◼   ► every person who's fighting each other [TS]

◼   ► for the most part is given a legitimate [TS]

◼   ► motivation for doing so who's who's the [TS]

◼   ► real enemy hear that though the woman [TS]

◼   ► who was horribly mangled by the insect [TS]

◼   ► you [TS]

◼   ► clearly understand her motivation she's [TS]

◼   ► not a cartoon the the the Sioux City's [TS]

◼   ► their warring with each other and let [TS]

◼   ► the bugs over on their own city so they [TS]

◼   ► can get the enemy there you know what [TS]

◼   ► everyone has some yeah but you can [TS]

◼   ► easily we're doing [TS]

◼   ► you definitely read it is the people in [TS]

◼   ► the valley are are being invaded by [TS]

◼   ► these more militaristic people who don't [TS]

◼   ► you know who don't get it and that's the [TS]

◼   ► kind of we like why can't we just get [TS]

◼   ► along and they're the ones who you know [TS]

◼   ► the bugs do a lot of damage but the bugs [TS]

◼   ► are kinda egged on by these by the kind [TS]

◼   ► of militaristic people who invade the [TS]

◼   ► little peaceful peaceful valley that's [TS]

◼   ► trying to just get along and survive and [TS]

◼   ► and and they lose their innocence when [TS]

◼   ► the giant flying airship thing crashes [TS]

◼   ► and and no you see it you see another [TS]

◼   ► princess the other princesses briefly on [TS]

◼   ► screen what happens to the princess you [TS]

◼   ► see here briefly she's in Chains and use [TS]

◼   ► you have you see the main character see [TS]

◼   ► that she's so badly injured that she's [TS]

◼   ► going to die and then she dies [TS]

◼   ► yeah not quite the same type of screen [TS]

◼   ► treatment that princess to get in disney [TS]

◼   ► movies no no said you liked this one how [TS]

◼   ► do you rate this one at this is this was [TS]

◼   ► the first miyazaki movie I saw I saw it [TS]

◼   ► when I was very young and I made a huge [TS]

◼   ► impact on me even after all the anime [TS]

◼   ► I'd seen I I didn't know enough about [TS]

◼   ► anything really because there was no [TS]

◼   ► internet to know what why I like [TS]

◼   ► japanese animation so much but i but I [TS]

◼   ► could pick out that among japanese [TS]

◼   ► animation this one was different i had [TS]

◼   ► no idea who made it or what it was or [TS]

◼   ► anything like that i'm like there's [TS]

◼   ► something different about this one and [TS]

◼   ► that sensibility I just grabbed onto now [TS]

◼   ► in his cannon it's not one of my [TS]

◼   ► favorite favorite movies but there are [TS]

◼   ► certain aspects of that I really loved [TS]

◼   ► by a lot of my love anime acid was [TS]

◼   ► visual design and character design i [TS]

◼   ► really loved the world that He has [TS]

◼   ► created there i love the bugs I love the [TS]

◼   ► wing yeah that that whole that the way [TS]

◼   ► the airplanes look that stuff goes a [TS]

◼   ► long way from me just the art and the [TS]

◼   ► imagining of this place and the plot is [TS]

◼   ► one of his more conventional plots at [TS]

◼   ► that he's repeats many different times [TS]

◼   ► but i still enjoy it and it's and it's [TS]

◼   ► for some reason I had no problem showing [TS]

◼   ► this movie to my fairly young kids even [TS]

◼   ► though it's filled with blood and things [TS]

◼   ► dying stuff because I think all the [TS]

◼   ► violence in this movie is handled in a [TS]

◼   ► way that I think it should be handled [TS]

◼   ► you know like it's not it's not [TS]

◼   ► glorified it's not gratuitous there are [TS]

◼   ► consequences for all of it and the main [TS]

◼   ► character is against it basically right [TS]

◼   ► so we should move on to castle in the [TS]

◼   ► sky which is next [TS]

◼   ► chronologically yeah 1986 also referred [TS]

◼   ► to as at what a la la puta por la ayude [TS]

◼   ► they pronounce it differently than you [TS]

◼   ► would actually pronounce it and because [TS]

◼   ► it's I think it's a reference to [TS]

◼   ► Jonathan Swift yes but then that means [TS]

◼   ► something really bad and in Spanish [TS]

◼   ► which is jonathan swift intended but i'm [TS]

◼   ► not sure [TS]

◼   ► nice ahi this is the reverse this is [TS]

◼   ► Western culture get him getting put [TS]

◼   ► through the grinder then coming back [TS]

◼   ► it's like a game of telephone yeah it's [TS]

◼   ► wacky but just a mean castle mr. i [TS]

◼   ► really liked this 1i I like this a lot [TS]

◼   ► this is this is a and this one is stuck [TS]

◼   ► with me longer actually then then the [TS]

◼   ► nautica did the you know the the the [TS]

◼   ► there's a while plus there's like [TS]

◼   ► Zeppelin's right that's true well if you [TS]

◼   ► think of the opening this movie this is [TS]

◼   ► nausea go alright take to know it opens [TS]

◼   ► with the action scene that is a credit [TS]

◼   ► sequence with music showing a bunch of [TS]

◼   ► images explaining that how the world got [TS]

◼   ► to the state you're going to see it and [TS]

◼   ► then there's this big adventure and you [TS]

◼   ► know it is very much an adventure movie [TS]

◼   ► an action movie I and very different [TS]

◼   ► than the typical kids movies i gave [TS]

◼   ► think of all the things that happened to [TS]

◼   ► these kids first of all this the the [TS]

◼   ► main character parts who it was [TS]

◼   ► he's living on his own he has no parents [TS]

◼   ► but that's not that's not a big deal [TS]

◼   ► it's like yeah of course he's just like [TS]

◼   ► he's got a job yeah he's working there [TS]

◼   ► is a princess type character who is more [TS]

◼   ► of the typical princess type thing but [TS]

◼   ► one of my favorite that one of the [TS]

◼   ► things that sticks with in this movie on [TS]

◼   ► my favorite part is that in the very [TS]

◼   ► opening you have what's the girl's name [TS]

◼   ► actually remember [TS]

◼   ► yeah she that is a escaping from these [TS]

◼   ► people who look like a fairy's [TS]

◼   ► government people whatever inches on the [TS]

◼   ► outside of this thing i think was an [TS]

◼   ► airship wasn't it yes well it's yeah [TS]

◼   ► it's an airship alright and she's and [TS]

◼   ► they're trying to get her whatever and [TS]

◼   ► chief she slips and falls supposed to [TS]

◼   ► presumably to read it properly [TS]

◼   ► your death then they roll the credits [TS]

◼   ► and the credits show you know that [TS]

◼   ► people made this technology that made [TS]

◼   ► these floating things makes loads than [TS]

◼   ► all the Crashdown the people came out [TS]

◼   ► and they're back to being farmers right [TS]

◼   ► so after that Christ sequences first of [TS]

◼   ► all the shocking thing of like here's [TS]

◼   ► our princess girl very important [TS]

◼   ► she's falling to her death that's how [TS]

◼   ► you open a kids movie right and and we [TS]

◼   ► haven't been introduced any characters [TS]

◼   ► that are going to swoop in and save her [TS]

◼   ► halfway there is no like Superman it's [TS]

◼   ► not a Superman movie there's no [TS]

◼   ► assumption that she's going to live [TS]

◼   ► after the credits over what did they cut [TS]

◼   ► back to the girl she's still falling [TS]

◼   ► just in case you're wondering if he's [TS]

◼   ► unconscious she's falling to her death [TS]

◼   ► let's follow her now with the camera as [TS]

◼   ► she falls through death which is [TS]

◼   ► unbelievably audacious I think too i [TS]

◼   ► mean even an action movie you wouldn't [TS]

◼   ► roll the credits and then now in [TS]

◼   ► progress we just we don't want her to [TS]

◼   ► die off camera even in what is that [TS]

◼   ► movie The Good Shepherd where they throw [TS]

◼   ► the woman out of the plane with her [TS]

◼   ► bride bridal soon on sorry if I spoiled [TS]

◼   ► that for anybody [TS]

◼   ► they don't show her falling like that [TS]

◼   ► you see her from the plane audio soon [TS]

◼   ► well she's going to Dinah they cut back [TS]

◼   ► to and the girls still falling to her [TS]

◼   ► death and she's unconscious and she's [TS]

◼   ► going headfirst and here she is [TS]

◼   ► and of course you know she doesn't [TS]

◼   ► actually died but house is how the rest [TS]

◼   ► of the week was out that's an amazing [TS]

◼   ► amazing sequence that I could never [TS]

◼   ► imagine a Western director doing the [TS]

◼   ► rest of the movie much more conventional [TS]

◼   ► except for perhaps if you watch the [TS]

◼   ► original you know if you watch the [TS]

◼   ► japanese version of how the the pirate [TS]

◼   ► mother isn't everything that all sorts [TS]

◼   ► of inappropriate strange maybe it was [TS]

◼   ► also because it was the eighties non-pc [TS]

◼   ► interactions of that group of pirates [TS]

◼   ► that's what I i read i'm on wikipedia [TS]

◼   ► although what I wanted to say is there's [TS]

◼   ► actually something else very funny that [TS]

◼   ► happens in the opening of castle in the [TS]

◼   ► sky which is that you've got the pirate [TS]

◼   ► it's a pirate attack on the airship and [TS]

◼   ► you think the Pirates are bad except [TS]

◼   ► she's actually being held captive it [TS]

◼   ► turns out by the people who are on the [TS]

◼   ► airship she doesn't like them either but [TS]

◼   ► your setup to feel like you this pirate [TS]

◼   ► attack and they're trying to grab her [TS]

◼   ► her her jewel and then she falls to her [TS]

◼   ► death and you're thinking those pirates [TS]

◼   ► are bad was about those are bad pirates [TS]

◼   ► are bad guys which is totally not true [TS]

◼   ► well is it then don't they never have [TS]

◼   ► the scene where it's like okay I return [TS]

◼   ► ice got like the Pirates still have [TS]

◼   ► their mercenary motivation hallway [TS]

◼   ► through their true [TS]

◼   ► themselves that there isn't but their [TS]

◼   ► honor when pirates yeah kind of [TS]

◼   ► honorable but also kind of shady and not [TS]

◼   ► really fuzzy and kind of like all sharks [TS]

◼   ► we all love you pirates you know it's [TS]

◼   ► clear who's on different teams and the [TS]

◼   ► government guys is the most people can [TS]

◼   ► surprise you want to take over the world [TS]

◼   ► with this super powerful weapon or [TS]

◼   ► whatever but you know no one is is [TS]

◼   ► they're not bending over backwards to [TS]

◼   ► make anyone cuddly right now the leader [TS]

◼   ► of the Pirates is still graph the whole [TS]

◼   ► way through and pods and innocent little [TS]

◼   ► boy he is the whole way through yeah [TS]

◼   ► this is this is very not a lot of [TS]

◼   ► character development this movie much [TS]

◼   ► more of an action rollercoaster I think [TS]

◼   ► now it goes a stronger movie just [TS]

◼   ► because there are character arcs and [TS]

◼   ► people you know do it's the how they are [TS]

◼   ► starting the movie the things they [TS]

◼   ► thought they were capable of doing [TS]

◼   ► by the end of the movie they've grown [TS]

◼   ► whereas in this movie know they kind of [TS]

◼   ► going and eventually discover [TS]

◼   ► interesting things and and eventually [TS]

◼   ► tried to help of others but it but it's [TS]

◼   ► a great adventure though but you're [TS]

◼   ► right as much of a story of a character [TS]

◼   ► arc i love the robot in your robot [TS]

◼   ► orgasm is too that's again the character [TS]

◼   ► design and just the way you know because [TS]

◼   ► that's that [TS]

◼   ► that is some amazing stuff there is just [TS]

◼   ► sort of this mournful incredibly [TS]

◼   ► powerful strange-looking thing my kids [TS]

◼   ► were very affected by the fact when we [TS]

◼   ► meet the first robot which is there to [TS]

◼   ► protect her and it does protect her and [TS]

◼   ► it dies it's destroyed [TS]

◼   ► although it is it guys several times [TS]

◼   ► because it keeps coming back to life and [TS]

◼   ► getting destroyed even more brutally [TS]

◼   ► until it's finally completely destroyed [TS]

◼   ► and I am my son was very sad that the [TS]

◼   ► robot died because the no I like that [TS]

◼   ► robot and is very he was very sad when [TS]

◼   ► the robot that fortunately they made [TS]

◼   ► many more of that terrible [TS]

◼   ► that's the thing with robots into my [TS]

◼   ► daughter for the lot was very effective [TS]

◼   ► but it probably showed this movie to her [TS]

◼   ► when she was too young but she for the [TS]

◼   ► longest time called this the robot movie [TS]

◼   ► that was the new school shoes concern i [TS]

◼   ► can see that room wanna see the robot [TS]

◼   ► movie what we talked about these movies [TS]

◼   ► with my kids and I were watching ponyo [TS]

◼   ► and and my son made reference to the one [TS]

◼   ► with a robot so it is just like every [TS]

◼   ► featured in this movie like it's not [TS]

◼   ► it's not in many seasons are no but it's [TS]

◼   ► such a great-looking character and of [TS]

◼   ► course it behaves honorably and is is [TS]

◼   ► it's very heroic and trying to protect [TS]

◼   ► the other characters [TS]

◼   ► from preserve the monarch yeah clapping [TS]

◼   ► a class system is accepted and it's [TS]

◼   ► moving don't know royalty [TS]

◼   ► he's like yes he's the he's the [TS]

◼   ► protector of the of the royalty of the [TS]

◼   ► of the floating city but I i love the [TS]

◼   ► yeah I love that robot look really great [TS]

◼   ► great-looking robot and I don't know I [TS]

◼   ► assume that it was an least partly an [TS]

◼   ► inspiration for the iron giant it may [TS]

◼   ► seem to have something in common i know [TS]

◼   ► that there was a book about the the book [TS]

◼   ► that the Iron Giant is based on was done [TS]

◼   ► in the sixties and I don't know if [TS]

◼   ► there's any relationship there but but [TS]

◼   ► when i see that with a robot and castle [TS]

◼   ► in the sky I that's immediately / god is [TS]

◼   ► that was very iron giant it's gotta be I [TS]

◼   ► mean he was not intentional just it's in [TS]

◼   ► it's in the water for the the animators [TS]

◼   ► of this generation [TS]

◼   ► yeah just did you felt like a very [TS]

◼   ► similar kind of really cool apparently [TS]

◼   ► on the the roof of the studio ghibli [TS]

◼   ► museum or whatever it is [TS]

◼   ► in Japan there say there's one of these [TS]

◼   ► guys is a robot now it's not protected [TS]

◼   ► yeah that's good big brother on the roof [TS]

◼   ► but it but I like this i have I thought [TS]

◼   ► it was a lot of fun it's just a really [TS]

◼   ► fun adventure and and I thought pretty [TS]

◼   ► well paced I didn't feel like it it had [TS]

◼   ► dragged at the end or anything I mean [TS]

◼   ► they got this crazy adventure inside the [TS]

◼   ► floating city where we just at one point [TS]

◼   ► is like falling apart and you know [TS]

◼   ► there's all this high-flying action [TS]

◼   ► because they've got you know it's all [TS]

◼   ► happening in the air and their the [TS]

◼   ► various airships and and although you're [TS]

◼   ► right i mean we have five flying action [TS]

◼   ► in Nazca to yeah i think this movie [TS]

◼   ► could wait forever Western director or [TS]

◼   ► studio did this they would have [TS]

◼   ► tightened it up there's a lot of like [TS]

◼   ► it's just gloriously flabby just [TS]

◼   ► everything is everyone gonna have a [TS]

◼   ► train scene we're gonna have this fight [TS]

◼   ► we're gonna have people you know chasing [TS]

◼   ► each other through kathy had a robot is [TS]

◼   ► destroying we're going you know [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's how much that they're like all [TS]

◼   ► right could we tighten this up maybe [TS]

◼   ► have an ARCA story here is really the [TS]

◼   ► story of like discovery of this the [TS]

◼   ► castle in the sky and her favorite [TS]

◼   ► people going after the jewel but there's [TS]

◼   ► just so much like we can do everything [TS]

◼   ► to do yet stupid a scene with the tree [TS]

◼   ► which is a great the train stuff is [TS]

◼   ► great but you're right it's like okay [TS]

◼   ► it's everything I didn't actually mean [TS]

◼   ► yeah that this movie I don't know it [TS]

◼   ► should have been tightened up but it [TS]

◼   ► would [TS]

◼   ► been tightened up I think it came out of [TS]

◼   ► Westminster but here you know they just [TS]

◼   ► said this is what he wants we're going [TS]

◼   ► to go with it and it's just kind of a a [TS]

◼   ► a giant fun ride [TS]

◼   ► well let's let's move onto 1988 and I [TS]

◼   ► the movie that i assume is it's got to [TS]

◼   ► be the most famous and most loved of his [TS]

◼   ► movies which is my neighbor totoro among [TS]

◼   ► Westerners maybe yeah wasn't this i [TS]

◼   ► thought this was like one of the biggest [TS]

◼   ► grossing movies involving all those 10 [TS]

◼   ► came out it was the biggest grossing [TS]

◼   ► movie spirited away came out it was the [TS]

◼   ► reason your hand alright so i think [TS]

◼   ► there's generally blood in Japan but [TS]

◼   ► yeah because it has something you can [TS]

◼   ► make into a stuffed animal i think yes [TS]

◼   ► it is under there are many totoro [TS]

◼   ► stuffed animals so my neighbor totoro is [TS]

◼   ► one of those two movies that I that I'm [TS]

◼   ► i mentioned earlier that I that I just [TS]

◼   ► love of his and one of the things i love [TS]

◼   ► about this movie and kiki's delivery [TS]

◼   ► service which we can talk about in a [TS]

◼   ► little bit because that's the next one [TS]

◼   ► up one of the things I love about these [TS]

◼   ► movies is that you've talked about ways [TS]

◼   ► that you wouldn't structure something if [TS]

◼   ► you were making a western movie for [TS]

◼   ► being a hollywood movie who is the [TS]

◼   ► antagonist in my I would go from 0 to [TS]

◼   ► what is the plot of this movie [TS]

◼   ► what is the plot of the plot of this [TS]

◼   ► movie is that girls have moved into a [TS]

◼   ► house because and their mother is sick [TS]

◼   ► and a hospital and their dad has to [TS]

◼   ► commute and they feel lonely and they [TS]

◼   ► want their mother to come home which is [TS]

◼   ► it about a plot like it to imagine if [TS]

◼   ► you have to write like the two sentence [TS]

◼   ► thing that used to fit in like the TV [TS]

◼   ► listings and taking yakety want to get [TS]

◼   ► out of the three sentences [TS]

◼   ► what's the three sentences or two [TS]

◼   ► sentences for total you can't do it [TS]

◼   ► you're like a giant creature be friends [TS]

◼   ► and like that's not what it's about yeah [TS]

◼   ► like you can't there's nothing you could [TS]

◼   ► write for this and that [TS]

◼   ► that's what what's so wonderful about [TS]

◼   ► this movie yeah I it [TS]

◼   ► totoro is probably it's it's close we [TS]

◼   ► can keep toner which is my favorite [TS]

◼   ► miyazaki movie which is probably [TS]

◼   ► surprising to someone who looks at the [TS]

◼   ► camera like Shirley like two big action [TS]

◼   ► movies or princess mononoke or which is [TS]

◼   ► like the fifth attempt to redo nas ago [TS]

◼   ► you know it says it happened it's not [TS]

◼   ► these movies [TS]

◼   ► ya have someting those other ones don't [TS]

◼   ► because that they everything maybe it's [TS]

◼   ► common in Japanese stuff i don't know [TS]

◼   ► enough about culture this is common but [TS]

◼   ► what what this movie is about when kids [TS]

◼   ► watching what it's about is a big fuzzy [TS]

◼   ► magic creature [TS]

◼   ► yes that does hilarious things that's [TS]

◼   ► crazy cat buses even kids recognize this [TS]

◼   ► is nuts right and it's just it's wacky [TS]

◼   ► everything that some wacky think it's [TS]

◼   ► like a Looney Tunes cartoon like they're [TS]

◼   ► in the house you're looking around these [TS]

◼   ► weird things in the house is something [TS]

◼   ► in the forest they have a bath it's [TS]

◼   ► windy outside what you know what [TS]

◼   ► but the kids are like poop you know that [TS]

◼   ► if you show this to most adults are [TS]

◼   ► teens are like what the house is some [TS]

◼   ► sort of Stuart stupid kids me or [TS]

◼   ► whatever but if you watch it and it like [TS]

◼   ► it connects with you which is definitely [TS]

◼   ► connected with me and you think about [TS]

◼   ► what the movie is actually about you [TS]

◼   ► I think that obviously connected with [TS]

◼   ► you because you were getting closer to [TS]

◼   ► like this movie is about kids who have a [TS]

◼   ► sick mother [TS]

◼   ► yes right no the antagonist in this [TS]

◼   ► movie is their mother's illness that's [TS]

◼   ► really yet but they do not like a no [TS]

◼   ► point did they say like it's not if you [TS]

◼   ► made a movie about kids have a second [TS]

◼   ► mother first you'd never make that movie [TS]

◼   ► I don't like a Disney types that you [TS]

◼   ► never get kids more like the whole point [TS]

◼   ► of the movies like live-action my mother [TS]

◼   ► is sick i'm sad and we've just been [TS]

◼   ► talking about how your mother is sick [TS]

◼   ► and you're upset but that's not how [TS]

◼   ► children work they don't relate to their [TS]

◼   ► feelings or things that are especially [TS]

◼   ► kids this age movie you know they don't [TS]

◼   ► relate to their situation in life in the [TS]

◼   ► way they would like it now a very [TS]

◼   ► special movie or 10 mins mother is so [TS]

◼   ► good at talking to tell me about they [TS]

◼   ► relate to it in a very very different [TS]

◼   ► way and this is something i get into [TS]

◼   ► with adults who watch this movie they [TS]

◼   ► say so what is like what is going on [TS]

◼   ► here and that is the real world or is [TS]

◼   ► totoro like magic why doesn't total help [TS]

◼   ► make their their mother better as total [TS]

◼   ► really there or is he just in the kids [TS]

◼   ► imagination at and like how do I like if [TS]

◼   ► the kids are just kids imagination has [TS]

◼   ► total help them find the kit but they it [TS]

◼   ► blows their mind but this is a perfect [TS]

◼   ► representation of the world the kids [TS]

◼   ► inhabit because the stress of having a [TS]

◼   ► sick mother and that like it manifests [TS]

◼   ► in children in very strange ways and [TS]

◼   ► it's not talked about it is not [TS]

◼   ► intellectualized and sort of discussed [TS]

◼   ► as a thing [TS]

◼   ► they go through their life hopefully [TS]

◼   ► with a loving parent which they have in [TS]

◼   ► this movie and this stuff just finds its [TS]

◼   ► way out in two different places with [TS]

◼   ► Toto sometimes scary but also sometimes [TS]

◼   ► comforting and sometimes helps them you [TS]

◼   ► know it get over things and and in the [TS]

◼   ► end with me running off try to go to her [TS]

◼   ► mother and getting lost that as a real [TS]

◼   ► things happen in the real world which by [TS]

◼   ► the way that's one of my favorite scenes [TS]

◼   ► from the movie that they're looking for [TS]

◼   ► majors a what if you like three in the [TS]

◼   ► movie or something she's lost and there [TS]

◼   ► are people in the rice paddy things with [TS]

◼   ► sticks waving the sticks around you [TS]

◼   ► don't find live children with sticks in [TS]

◼   ► water you know that's not what they and [TS]

◼   ► they find that they find a shoe and they [TS]

◼   ► think it might be hers and they think [TS]

◼   ► that she's drowned [TS]

◼   ► yeah and and this is that the plot of [TS]

◼   ► the movie girls second they find her [TS]

◼   ► know this is just these children's life [TS]

◼   ► it during a period of uncertainty about [TS]

◼   ► something that should be certain and [TS]

◼   ► everything you see the happen whether [TS]

◼   ► you decide that it's a real or it's not [TS]

◼   ► real is if you know this is this is what [TS]

◼   ► it's like to be a kid with the sick [TS]

◼   ► mother and it's really strange to say [TS]

◼   ► that a movie about what it's like to be [TS]

◼   ► good with the second mother has to [TS]

◼   ► involve giant magical fuzzy creatures [TS]

◼   ► and floating things and cat buses and [TS]

◼   ► but it really it really should it really [TS]

◼   ► does let mixture of be you know it's the [TS]

◼   ► it's the it's a fairytale on one level [TS]

◼   ► and kids are the ones who we tell fairy [TS]

◼   ► tales 2 i'm on another level it's I mean [TS]

◼   ► really the plot of this movie is that [TS]

◼   ► these girls lives change that because [TS]

◼   ► their mother is sick they have to move [TS]

◼   ► out to the country and their dad has to [TS]

◼   ► be a way because he has to take the bus [TS]

◼   ► to the University and it's a long way [TS]

◼   ► off and so they have to have a new house [TS]

◼   ► and they have a new school and they have [TS]

◼   ► this big tree outside their window the [TS]

◼   ► very things out there and yeah it's kind [TS]

◼   ► of scary but kind of fun at the same [TS]

◼   ► time like it you everything warning if [TS]

◼   ► you can connect to your own childhood [TS]

◼   ► memories are feelings you have from back [TS]

◼   ► and this is kind of what it's like [TS]

◼   ► they're everything is kind of scary and [TS]

◼   ► kind of fun and kind of uncertainty and [TS]

◼   ► nothing makes sense to you and you don't [TS]

◼   ► know why things are happening and then [TS]

◼   ► your melody of magic right and you're on [TS]

◼   ► your imagination blends with reality in [TS]

◼   ► the seamless like this like it's a [TS]

◼   ► continuum it's not like well here's the [TS]

◼   ► real world news imagination it's all [TS]

◼   ► it's all one thing well I said it's such [TS]

◼   ► a charming movie I mean it [TS]

◼   ► is and it's not just the cute fuzzy [TS]

◼   ► creatures although they are incredibly [TS]

◼   ► cute and incredibly fuzzy but but it you [TS]

◼   ► know the dad is a great character and [TS]

◼   ► he's being you can see in his scenes [TS]

◼   ► that he's being he's obviously troubled [TS]

◼   ► about his and his wife sickness but he's [TS]

◼   ► being as good a father as he can be [TS]

◼   ► and.and but he's struggling because he's [TS]

◼   ► also got a got a commute night when that [TS]

◼   ► the opening scenes when they're opening [TS]

◼   ► up the house for the first time in the [TS]

◼   ► girls are exploring and he's encouraging [TS]

◼   ► of them and and yet it's also it's also [TS]

◼   ► all very funny because you can see that [TS]

◼   ► he's got a dry sense of humor and they [TS]

◼   ► don't necessarily get that he's being [TS]

◼   ► funny but he's actually being really [TS]

◼   ► funny and then there's the little boy [TS]

◼   ► who is seems standoffish but is actually [TS]

◼   ► it's actually adorable and and be the [TS]

◼   ► scenes with the little boy in the [TS]

◼   ► umbrella stand for for people who don't [TS]

◼   ► have kids too i'm at i guess they might [TS]

◼   ► think that the good little boys a good [TS]

◼   ► example that uh that he doesn't act like [TS]

◼   ► little boys act in typical movies if you [TS]

◼   ► had a neighbor boy was like spunky but [TS]

◼   ► really was you know like the girl or [TS]

◼   ► whatever like the people write dialogue [TS]

◼   ► for kids as if there if not adults that [TS]

◼   ► at least like preteens or something [TS]

◼   ► this boy that sees the girl who was [TS]

◼   ► caught in a rainstorm watched offers [TS]

◼   ► umbrella as a scowl on his face James [TS]

◼   ► the umbrella of a single huh huh I'm [TS]

◼   ► just make grunting noises you're like oh [TS]

◼   ► come on what kind of kid make if you [TS]

◼   ► have a boy that age [TS]

◼   ► this is the epitome of communication for [TS]

◼   ► them because they don't know how do they [TS]

◼   ► don't they don't they're not going to [TS]

◼   ► chat up the they don't have a way to [TS]

◼   ► express this at all and so you see this [TS]

◼   ► grumpy boy jamming this thing in her and [TS]

◼   ► then he runs off with a smile on his [TS]

◼   ► face [TS]

◼   ► that's what kids that age do they're not [TS]

◼   ► adults and and also like so that happens [TS]

◼   ► but that's not the point of the movie [TS]

◼   ► it's not a love story between his two [TS]

◼   ► little kids they're just little kids [TS]

◼   ► leaving their lives in the way the [TS]

◼   ► little kids do that one precocious kid [TS]

◼   ► in the movie [TS]

◼   ► Watsky who is kind of our you know here [TS]

◼   ► or whatever sure even even she has the [TS]

◼   ► moment of like you know there is one of [TS]

◼   ► my favorite things than we were [TS]

◼   ► she's looking for her little sister and [TS]

◼   ► the sun is setting which they indicate [TS]

◼   ► just with a little bit of you know [TS]

◼   ► changing the lighting of everything [TS]

◼   ► nobody exposition about we must find her [TS]

◼   ► before dark because if the darkness [TS]

◼   ► comes in but no she's she's running her [TS]

◼   ► feet are dirty she takes over [TS]

◼   ► shoes and she's panicked find your [TS]

◼   ► sister and they don't know where she's [TS]

◼   ► anywhere at that point your panic too [TS]

◼   ► right yeah if you're if you're invested [TS]

◼   ► in the movie I every every part of this [TS]

◼   ► movie I just connects with me if it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't connect with you it might seem [TS]

◼   ► like we're talking nonsense you're gonna [TS]

◼   ► watch this movie and say this is this [TS]

◼   ► movie they love if it connects with you [TS]

◼   ► what we did say up front that that [TS]

◼   ► nothing happens and over at least it has [TS]

◼   ► no plot to speak of and there's not [TS]

◼   ► really any conflict and it's just sort [TS]

◼   ► of a story about some girls whose mom [TS]

◼   ► attic and they're learning about where [TS]

◼   ► they live and also there are some [TS]

◼   ► magical creatures who are adorable and [TS]

◼   ► that give an umbrella to one of them so [TS]

◼   ► what do you choose to blow actually two [TS]

◼   ► things that's before I get that what you [TS]

◼   ► choose on but this is one of the things [TS]

◼   ► where the dub i think make some jokes [TS]

◼   ► that I'm glad they they change from the [TS]

◼   ► original or whatever like the voice [TS]

◼   ► acting with us and everything looks a [TS]

◼   ► little global picture of like a maze [TS]

◼   ► doing whatever it's making her crabby [TS]

◼   ► here's a picture of me as a crab [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah Michael lines like that they [TS]

◼   ► crack me up or or the one she was creepy [TS]

◼   ► that's kind of you know those are jokes [TS]

◼   ► made in in the dub that either are [TS]

◼   ► written differently or land differently [TS]

◼   ► in the subtitle versions and since I've [TS]

◼   ► seen the double design times because I [TS]

◼   ► kids can't read subtitles or couldn't [TS]

◼   ► when they were watching this I like most [TS]

◼   ► access to this dub even though some of [TS]

◼   ► the voices are grading and some of the [TS]

◼   ► things they do or a little bit you know [TS]

◼   ► weird i don't want to ask is what is [TS]

◼   ► your take on the on the movie is what [TS]

◼   ► happens in the movies total a real [TS]

◼   ► distro take them to see their mother [TS]

◼   ► Oh or is he entirely a figment of your [TS]

◼   ► imagination well i think i think it's in [TS]

◼   ► this this is intentionally left it is it [TS]

◼   ► is i'm just asking lat where are you [TS]

◼   ► well i mean i think that's the beauty of [TS]

◼   ► I mean I i guess i would argue that if [TS]

◼   ► that in the end when they'll win the the [TS]

◼   ► messages left for on the windowsill for [TS]

◼   ► their mom that they couldn't have gotten [TS]

◼   ► there by any other means and so [TS]

◼   ► therefore total really took them there [TS]

◼   ► if you really are looking for any [TS]

◼   ► evidence but in the end it doesn't [TS]

◼   ► really matter right it's just like the [TS]

◼   ► way that the scene where they have a [TS]

◼   ► giant tree grows out in the backyard [TS]

◼   ► because it's just enormous in the [TS]

◼   ► backyard and and they wake up the net [TS]

◼   ► extend their dad is sitting there the [TS]

◼   ► whole time and he doesn't notice [TS]

◼   ► anything and they wake up the next day [TS]

◼   ► and it's gone and you think haha see [TS]

◼   ► nothing really happened but the things [TS]

◼   ► they planted sprout over threat so you [TS]

◼   ► know was it something maybe did happen [TS]

◼   ► it just wasn't the big thing that they [TS]

◼   ► that we saw that you know or that was [TS]

◼   ► all that in the end was left after after [TS]

◼   ► this kind of dream that they that they [TS]

◼   ► all had or the solution or whatever it [TS]

◼   ► was or magic with with totoro but you [TS]

◼   ► know in the end does it doesn't matter [TS]

◼   ► but the fact that they you know that [TS]

◼   ► they left a little a little message for [TS]

◼   ► their mom on the windowsill how else [TS]

◼   ► would have gotten there yet the Western [TS]

◼   ► audiences always wanted always wanted to [TS]

◼   ► have included in different you know it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't matter i also want to say I have [TS]

◼   ► beautiful this movie is that pit the the [TS]

◼   ► just the pictures of the Japanese [TS]

◼   ► countryside it is i love i love it just [TS]

◼   ► for that it now looks so good and like [TS]

◼   ► the house like it's exotic to us because [TS]

◼   ► we don't know what Japanese right tubs [TS]

◼   ► look like from whatever year this was [TS]

◼   ► supposed to look like and just get their [TS]

◼   ► enable screens and yeah he obviously [TS]

◼   ► loves nature and he loves putting lots [TS]

◼   ► of our stuff and the people who do the [TS]

◼   ► enemy and whether Mr that's a big [TS]

◼   ► weather guy [TS]

◼   ► yeah miyazaki is yeah I as we're going [TS]

◼   ► to get to anything more about 20 before [TS]

◼   ► we move the key [TS]

◼   ► I don't think I've reason i ask you [TS]

◼   ► about whether you thought he was really [TS]

◼   ► notice because that's the type of thing [TS]

◼   ► that Western audiences demand out of [TS]

◼   ► their movies yeah well so is he real or [TS]

◼   ► not we have to know and the little the [TS]

◼   ► corn you know thing at the end seems [TS]

◼   ► like he's leaning that direction but [TS]

◼   ► it's not a conclusive no type of thing [TS]

◼   ► and the whole point of the movie is that [TS]

◼   ► to children's lives [TS]

◼   ► this is all of a piece there's no [TS]

◼   ► separation because they have no they [TS]

◼   ► haven't settled things down like that [TS]

◼   ► imagination is reality is imagination [TS]

◼   ► right [TS]

◼   ► emotion is manifestation in other sorts [TS]

◼   ► of ways that's totally seemingly [TS]

◼   ► unrelated to an outside observer the [TS]

◼   ► thing they're actually upset about and [TS]

◼   ► it's clear from the movie is a thing i [TS]

◼   ► like about the parent the parent you [TS]

◼   ► know that the two parents except for the [TS]

◼   ► little thing did you see a gigantic cat [TS]

◼   ► with a humongous claws and teeth in that [TS]

◼   ► tree a second ago [TS]

◼   ► now you know that's a little knot at the [TS]

◼   ► end there but in general for the whole [TS]

◼   ► rest of the movie they pay no attention [TS]

◼   ► to what these crazy kids are doing [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's great it's it's great I I it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't matter might my son my son is [TS]

◼   ► seven and it's reading calvin and hobbes [TS]

◼   ► who discovered Calvin and Hobbes and [TS]

◼   ► this this I think is very comfortable to [TS]

◼   ► what you just said which is he thinks [TS]

◼   ► calvin and hobbes is a story about a boy [TS]

◼   ► with a magic tiger who only turns real [TS]

◼   ► when nobody's looking [TS]

◼   ► yeah but of course the rest of us would [TS]

◼   ► view it as a boy who has an imagination [TS]

◼   ► and he makes his stuff tiger he believes [TS]

◼   ► his stuff tiger is real and has [TS]

◼   ► conversations with him but to my [TS]

◼   ► seven-year-old son [TS]

◼   ► no it's a magic tiger who you can only [TS]

◼   ► see like snuffleupagus right he's only [TS]

◼   ► he can only move when nobody else is [TS]

◼   ► looking except Calvin well he's like the [TS]

◼   ► weeping angels yes slightly less Hobbs [TS]

◼   ► is slightly less thread by murderous in [TS]

◼   ► the weeping angels but yes and to Calvin [TS]

◼   ► he's a boy with a real tiger like [TS]

◼   ► California has no account doesn't think [TS]

◼   ► it's just that one is far as columns her [TS]

◼   ► psyche as real as parents [TS]

◼   ► yeah his parents yes and more agreeable [TS]

◼   ► sometimes so let's move onto I believe [TS]

◼   ► the next year in 1989 kiki's delivery [TS]

◼   ► service which I actually I i would say [TS]

◼   ► this is my favorite of his movies and [TS]

◼   ► this has more of a plot [TS]

◼   ► yeah and more sophisticated than total [TS]

◼   ► refrigerant boil it still doesn't really [TS]

◼   ► have an antagonist somebody asked me [TS]

◼   ► okay who's the bad guy in kiki's [TS]

◼   ► delivery service i have two answers [TS]

◼   ► there's a mean girl at one point who [TS]

◼   ► says something mean but she has nothing [TS]

◼   ► to do with the plot there is nothing out [TS]

◼   ► the antagonist and there are many people [TS]

◼   ► who are graphing mean write it and but [TS]

◼   ► don't know it [TS]

◼   ► bear with me for a second i think the [TS]

◼   ► antagonist kiki's delivery service is [TS]

◼   ► the wind there's a strong wind that [TS]

◼   ► causes trouble late in the movie that's [TS]

◼   ► it folks [TS]

◼   ► seriously these winds during the summer [TS]

◼   ► it's the wind the wind is the worst the [TS]

◼   ► wind is the enemy in this movie and it's [TS]

◼   ► not that strong and then what [TS]

◼   ► but it's not just want to get it there [TS]

◼   ► are scenes with the wind in it but [TS]

◼   ► I guess I think I've said this on past [TS]

◼   ► fog podcast the the antagonism kiki's [TS]

◼   ► delivery service is life not gonna life [TS]

◼   ► happens that's not what the movies about [TS]

◼   ► and what the wind could be a problem in [TS]

◼   ► life to it you know and blows things off [TS]

◼   ► the rain the rain does things that were [TS]

◼   ► you know people who are or not [TS]

◼   ► interested in the same things you're [TS]

◼   ► interested in disinterested strangers [TS]

◼   ► situations beyond your control it's just [TS]

◼   ► it's at right happens right and what's [TS]

◼   ► fascinating to about Kiki is that this [TS]

◼   ► is a movie where Miyazaki's interest in [TS]

◼   ► European yeah fairy tales and and [TS]

◼   ► there's a lot of stuff in here that is [TS]

◼   ► modeled on a couple icon stockholm where [TS]

◼   ► I've been and actually seen stuff and be [TS]

◼   ► like oh my god that's like a key still [TS]

◼   ► every service scale and there's this [TS]

◼   ► movie set [TS]

◼   ► it's like a Scandinavian northern europe [TS]

◼   ► for the most part it it's at mean it's [TS]

◼   ► not it's sort of not said anywhere but [TS]

◼   ► it's very clearly in it said in Europe [TS]

◼   ► and it's about a girl who's a witch and [TS]

◼   ► has a black cat and ride a broom so the [TS]

◼   ► writing is all in Japanese right right [TS]

◼   ► on japanese but it's he's definitely [TS]

◼   ► trying to to tell this use this instead [TS]

◼   ► this in a story and and the Western kind [TS]

◼   ► of view of a witch on a broom with a [TS]

◼   ► black cat and sets it in a European town [TS]

◼   ► which is fascinating to Justin daddy [TS]

◼   ► it's like a different a little bit [TS]

◼   ► different palette that he's painting [TS]

◼   ► with ya and so when i'm comparing this [TS]

◼   ► to totoro the reason I can flop back and [TS]

◼   ► forth because I'm like well tour was the [TS]

◼   ► pure essence of of his work like if you [TS]

◼   ► just keep tearing everything away until [TS]

◼   ► all that's left is nonsense and emotion [TS]

◼   ► you get total yeah he has more of a [TS]

◼   ► structure and it's more sophisticated [TS]

◼   ► not connect more with me as an adult [TS]

◼   ► which is strange because if you describe [TS]

◼   ► this movie to someone you can probably [TS]

◼   ► actually write a little capsule for this [TS]

◼   ► because you've got a clear main [TS]

◼   ► character she's a witch Westerners know [TS]

◼   ► what witches are she's young witch in [TS]

◼   ► training and it's going to be a kids [TS]

◼   ► movie [TS]

◼   ► so what kind of wacky adventures could [TS]

◼   ► she get into right but beyond that [TS]

◼   ► premise it's not structured at all like [TS]

◼   ► you know she's a kid who acts her age [TS]

◼   ► the adults are not buffoons she doesn't [TS]

◼   ► sing I there's there's no evil wizard [TS]

◼   ► trying to [TS]

◼   ► a harm her she goes out on her own and [TS]

◼   ► leave your family behind and you're [TS]

◼   ► expecting it to be that she ends up in [TS]

◼   ► this town and she's taken advantage of [TS]

◼   ► and made to do terrible things [TS]

◼   ► she's not she's given a place to live [TS]

◼   ► and she's given a job and she starts to [TS]

◼   ► deliver you know baked goods are all [TS]

◼   ► things you could have a witch do it like [TS]

◼   ► she's gonna have a battle with magic [TS]

◼   ► wand and fly her broom to firestorm to [TS]

◼   ► the Wizards now she's gonna do [TS]

◼   ► everything right and the big the big [TS]

◼   ► tension is going to be like will she [TS]

◼   ► deliver the cake on time right and and [TS]

◼   ► better are like where am I going to stay [TS]

◼   ► or had to do i navigate the adult world [TS]

◼   ► because she can't get into the hotel [TS]

◼   ► because she it's you know what you want [TS]

◼   ► to stay in the hotel by yourself but [TS]

◼   ► you're just a kid and she doesn't know [TS]

◼   ► what to do with that one of the greatest [TS]

◼   ► things mrs. there she's despondently [TS]

◼   ► eating her sandwich that she packed for [TS]

◼   ► herself after landing in the city full [TS]

◼   ► of hope and finding she was not even [TS]

◼   ► able to successfully issue you almost [TS]

◼   ► got in trouble with the police messed up [TS]

◼   ► traffic was not even able to get into [TS]

◼   ► hotel like she's not able to function in [TS]

◼   ► the adult world but she's just the kids [TS]

◼   ► like I'd they wouldn't let me in but [TS]

◼   ► like I don't actually just sitting there [TS]

◼   ► and you realize she's eating lunch and [TS]

◼   ► she packed for herself she has no other [TS]

◼   ► food she doesn't know where she's gonna [TS]

◼   ► stay she doesn't know how to become the [TS]

◼   ► witch for this town or whatever and just [TS]

◼   ► threw serendipity or whatever she [TS]

◼   ► happens to get a job at a bakery and [TS]

◼   ► figures well what can I actually do i [TS]

◼   ► guess i can fly that's good i guess i'll [TS]

◼   ► deliver things because if you can fly [TS]

◼   ► you can don't like it its home you know [TS]

◼   ► a mix of of pragmatic reality and people [TS]

◼   ► acting their age and oh by the way we [TS]

◼   ► have which is neckline everyone cool [TS]

◼   ► with that yeah yeah it's fine it's fine [TS]

◼   ► and there and it's great and then [TS]

◼   ► they're so then there's wind [TS]

◼   ► yeah and and her friend I mean that's [TS]

◼   ► really the climax right as her friend is [TS]

◼   ► accidentally lifted into the air by a [TS]

◼   ► runaway blimp [TS]

◼   ► yeah her love interest to is interested [TS]

◼   ► in her but it's not like oh we're going [TS]

◼   ► to be together and she will spend zero [TS]

◼   ► time mooning over tom but she sounds [TS]

◼   ► like the boy on the bike who kinda likes [TS]

◼   ► her and that I mean right and again like [TS]

◼   ► with us some other movies that we've [TS]

◼   ► talked about it's the it's it's a more [TS]

◼   ► realistic sort of like there's a boy and [TS]

◼   ► he's sort of interesting and that's [TS]

◼   ► really kind of it and this this is [TS]

◼   ► probably a good point to talk about or [TS]

◼   ► why I indoctrinated my children with [TS]

◼   ► Studio Ghibli movies from [TS]

◼   ► young age it and tried to keep them away [TS]

◼   ► from disney movies particularly my [TS]

◼   ► daughter because miyazaki goes in the [TS]

◼   ► other direction all the characters movie [TS]

◼   ► or women and there are you know the main [TS]

◼   ► characters the protagonist the important [TS]

◼   ► people and this women are in general [TS]

◼   ► with some exceptions treated very well [TS]

◼   ► so the ones i like to say Nozick up here [TS]

◼   ► is the woman she's strong she does [TS]

◼   ► everything a man would do but still with [TS]

◼   ► the sensibilities of a woman [TS]

◼   ► totoro the two girls are the main [TS]

◼   ► characters and kiki's delivery service [TS]

◼   ► she'sshe's the clear list of the center [TS]

◼   ► of this movie and the movies are not [TS]

◼   ► about getting married [TS]

◼   ► finding love or like any of these girl [TS]

◼   ► things like they're they're treated as [TS]

◼   ► normal people [TS]

◼   ► Kiki what she doesn't this movie is [TS]

◼   ► grows up a little bit in the way that [TS]

◼   ► people actually grow up by making [TS]

◼   ► friends getting a job not being [TS]

◼   ► confident yourself now but her brain [TS]

◼   ► challenge in life is that she's you know [TS]

◼   ► it doesn't quite know how to relate to [TS]

◼   ► people and fit in how do you become this [TS]

◼   ► person who is a working person but has [TS]

◼   ► friends and in does all the stuff you [TS]