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00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast number 90 may [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► this is jason l your host and in this [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► episode we're going to be talking about [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► television show that has come to us we [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► American evens from across the pond from [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► the UK it is Sherlock the second season [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► of the modern-day retelling of Arthur [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► Conan Doyle's famous detective executive [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► produced by Steven Moffat who also runs [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► a show called doctor who that you may [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► have heard of as well as Mark Gatiss who [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► has written some doctor who episodes as [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► well and did League of Gentlemen not [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► League of Extraordinary Gentlemen just [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► regular gentlemen hilarious sort of [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► bizarre comedy show from the UK anyway [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► gave us and Moffat are back with three [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► more movie length from 90 minute long [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► episodes of Sherlock starring benedict [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► cumberbatch sherlock holmes and Martin [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► Freeman who you may know from the office [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► and you'll soon know from The Hobbit as [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► dr. Watson so I joining me today to talk [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► about the second season of Sherlock [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► which aired in the UK in january i [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► believe and is airing in the u.s. in the [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► month of may in fact by the time you [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► hear this I believe the second episode [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► we'll be hearing about the same time we [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► post this episode so join me today are [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► Dan Morgan hi Dan [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► Jason thanks for being here my pleasure [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► and it's elementary that John syracuse [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► it would be here as well hi jon is this [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► the alternate universe version of this [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► podcast where the shows are just now [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► airing we just saw them I can't keep [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► track of which universe wherein it's [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► plausible denial isn't it great that the [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► people at the BBC think so highly of the [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► incomparable podcast that they sent us [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► screeners generator here to the US much [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► appreciated it's very nice of them and [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► also with me today is greg NOS hi Greg [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► hi Jason good to have you here thank you [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► so we'll talk about Star Wars now no [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► wait what oh no [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► oh don't cross the streams uh so uh [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► let's say well I guess we could start [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► with the first episode of sherlock [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► season two and will fire off the spoiler [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► horn as we go through the episode so if [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► you haven't gotten through the whole [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► season yet will try to hold off on the [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► season wide spoilers until we get there [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► so the first episode is a scandal in [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► belgravia which was written by steven [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► moffat and it is loosely based on a [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► scandal in Bohemia which was the arthur [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► conan doyle story then introduced the [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► American Irene Adler and belgravia i [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► looked it up is the region of London [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► where buckingham palace is located so [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► very clever little turn of events and [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► this also picks up from the cliffhanger [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► from the first season of Sherlock where [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► Moriarty has Sherlock and Watson dead to [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► rights by a swimming pool which I don't [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► even remember how they got to the [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► swimming pool so so what did you guys [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► think of this episode III thought this [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► was one of the one of the better ones if [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► not the best of the three of the series [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► I i think it was one of the best of the [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► three and it's because in large part we [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► see homes going up against something [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► that he never really has before which is [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► to say a female i could not quite [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► antagonist but competitor in some ways [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► and we see him for the first time sort [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► of not only finding his wits match to a [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► certain extent but also seeing him [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► somewhat discomforted by this idea of [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► you know dealing with a woman with of [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► such you know brain power so that [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► provides us with a number of interesting [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► scenes in which we get to watch him sort [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► of puzzle this through and also his [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► interesting relationship with her where [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► it seems like he can't quite come to [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► terms with how he feels reason willing [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► doesn't know we're just it is totally it [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► totally foreign concept to him so we get [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► to see him a little bit more out of [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► water but you do have that question and [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► it's dealt with in the first season as [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► well of Sherlock Holmes as it you know [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► does he does he have a a romantic [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► thought in his body is it you know is a [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► purely an intellectual who who has no [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► other thoughts about it or not and you [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► know Irene Adler is a challenge for him [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► on all those levels [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► I think actually one of the reasons that [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► he finds her so intriguing is that like [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► Moriarty she's not an average person he [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► sees the entire world sort of [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► mechanistically that people are utterly [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► predictable and she's not i mean she [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► walks into the room at the beginning of [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► the episode stark naked [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► it's not something normal people do well [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► it's 10 librarians haha its titillating [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► and get it in in a way it's titillating [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► to Sherlock in a totally different way [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► and this is this is maybe my favorite [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► thing in the entire three episodes is [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► that moment where she walks in stark [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► naked and we we do that the the trick [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► that they do where they have sort of a [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► readout of like thinks he's observing or [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► things that he's reading off of his [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► phone from a text message and as they [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► pan over parts of her skin [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► there's just these question marks and [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► that the whole idea that she's her being [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► naked as a challenge to him [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► not necessarily in a sexual way even [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► though she's been introduced as being a [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► dominatrix and all the stuff but that [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► she has erased all traces of her you [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► know her tells her background things [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► that Sherlock Holmes will be able to [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► reveal so it's such a great clever [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► double meaning by having her just walk [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► in naked and say well try to judge me [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► now right there's no there's no clothing [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► for him together any information on or [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► you know sort of adornments it's all [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► just it's all just out there you know [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► after the first season of the first [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► three episodes of this i was i also [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► don't remember how they got to that pool [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► and I was so long ago been a little more [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► already said pool party [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► come on yet and i had gotten not tired [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► of but I felt like they had done enough [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► of the oh isn't relax so clever and he [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► can just look at people and figure [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► things out any Superman so this episode [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► where he's well you know where he's he's [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► kinda bored with that in the beginning [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► with these cases you know he's rejecting [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► cases and he's got a case with the guy [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► with the car backfire stuff accounts [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► like yeah you know like he's bored with [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► it which I felt was a nice reflection of [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► the viewers possibility of being bored [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► with that and he's immediately [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► confronted with something [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► that I like with the question marks by [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► the naked person I i like that because [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► not because i thought like oh now [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► there's nothing that he can read because [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► i thought if he was actually at the [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► level-headed automaton that we thought [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► he was he would be able to read a lot of [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► things from just like how she applied [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► her makeup her hair or like marks on her [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► body or something but the reason he [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► couldn't is because as Jason pointed out [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► he was intrigued and intellectually [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► titillated by in this person who was [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► acting in an unexpected manner and also [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► just plain old attracted there was no [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► this is not we're wondering like does he [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► have romantic feelings in this episode [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► it's pretty clear that he definitely [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► does that even mean just like everybody [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► else is just a little bit weird [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► so this episode was by far my favorite [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► episode of the entire series on being I [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► can't use that I hate the British [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► terminology of series and season of the [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► entire six shows that have aired oh yes [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► so this was my favorite not even close i [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► I just loved it [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► I and it's because i think this episode [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► it make it builds on the first three of [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► like all these guys really smart and [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► then turns it on its ear but it's also [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► in itself a nice smart episode and i [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► love the fact the conclusion of this is [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► not so much Sherlock figuring out [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► something clever but Sherlock using like [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► his heart as well as his brain to get [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► somewhere you know what I mean I mean [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► the ASI guess again to use the brain as [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► well but i like that it was kind of like [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► a romance story like a love story with [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► Sherlock who's this very very damaged [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► individual and you know you got Watson [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► mixed in there is the the other love of [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► his life is a worked every part of it [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► work for me I just loved it [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► I think you're exactly right and you [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► know the first three episodes or the [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► first season or whatever i play out like [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► a high-class version of psych and they [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► mix it up and I'm actually looking [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► forward to the third season which [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► unfortunately doesn't begin filming in [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► 2013 just to see how much farther they [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► push it [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► it's they started from a very [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► predictable place with Sherlock show and [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► they gone and second episode opens up [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► with a place that starts heading in a [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► different direction and ends in a very [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► different direction Sherlock is a [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► character at the end of it because the [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► BBC sent us these advanced copy yes [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► at the end of the sixth episode is a [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► very different person than the one who [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► starts out mocking Lestrade at the [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► beginning of the first episode RR least [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► we know him or I feel like he's the same [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► was always the same person but we [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► deserve because we're only seeing what [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► he wanted us to see what has you as we [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► better you that he does grow and change [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► throughout these these course even if [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► it's only to become more like himself in [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► some ways yeah his walls come down a [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► little bit [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► ati don't think he had the capability of [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► carrying about what's in the waitresses [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► exactly and they needed the beginning [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► also is our Sherlock and Irene Adler the [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► two most alabaster people have enrolled [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► little bit on [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► yeah she's got a lot of skin showing and [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► it's very pale as a sheet and she says [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► to him I cut my hand slapping those [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► cheekbones there's some nice there's [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► some nice touches and your two of two [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► the as a sort of as Moffitt and yes I've [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► done all along with the callbacks to the [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► original Doyle stories which is of [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► course this was this is a callback [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► mostly to bulimia scandal in Bohemia [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► which is the the one and only story in [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► which Irene Adler ever appears which is [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► was always fascinating to me how much is [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► made of her given that she only appears [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► in one story I think she might get [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► mentioned in one of the other ones but [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► she does become such a singular [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► character in the Sherlock Holmes [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► repertoire that you you inevitably see [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► her paraded out for every adaptation but [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► i like the callbacks and indeed my [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► favorite who was a scene because I not [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► long a year or two ago we watched much [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► of the jeremy brett granada series from [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► the what ladies early nineties and they [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► didn't adapt an adaptation of a scandal [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► in Bohemia there as well and the scene [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► where he tries to basically suss out [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► where she's keeping these is [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► incriminating pictures by essentially [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► the United they like take a fire alarm [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah and so that's there's the [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► same sort of thing they do the exact [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► same thing in the original story which [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► is a a fake a fire to see her go to [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► whatever you know she is most likely to [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► protect protect what's the most valuable [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► possession because they sort of gonna [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► trick her into revealing that way yes he [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► has Sherlock has John out in the hall [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► with a magazine holding it up to a [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► to a smoke alarm right so I mean nice [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► little things like there was a you know [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► a tip of the hat for those who are who [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► are familiar with the source material to [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► say look at where were inspired by this [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► is to take it in a very different [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► direction and of course a lot of a plot [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► does not follow directly along the plots [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► of the original story but they they put [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► just enough in 24 those fans to [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► recognize which is I think a nice touch [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► that's the hallmark of like good nerd [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► media is that if you're adapting [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► something you have callbacks for the [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► people who know the source material [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► right and it doesn't distract you if you [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► don't I mean it's still not only doesn't [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► distract it doesn't rely on that because [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► I know nothing of the source material i [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► missed all these references until they [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► were read the wiki page and I still [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► loved everything about this episode so [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► it's just so great that it's like it's [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► just icing on top of icing it's not even [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► you know like Oh hint nudge nudge and [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► then you'll get this know you can get [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► the whole episode without it it's just a [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► little bit extra for the people know as [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► lifelong doctor who fans and [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► professional screenwriters Moffitt and [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► gave us both have I have learned how to [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► temper their their enthusiasm so fans [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► from the professionals writers and you [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► see it here because they are also both [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► insane [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► sherlock holmes fans my understanding is [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► that like Moffat before he was the [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► showrunner of doctor who he was actually [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► online a lot more than he is now he's on [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► Twitter but he used to be used to post [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► stuff all over the place and one of the [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► things he did was he actually hung out [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► in a doctor who forum in the off topic [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► section talking about sherlock holmes [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► all the time hehehe apparently is knows [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► you know that all the movies backward [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► and forward and can tell you about like [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► which Rathbone ones are good and you [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► know it and it's kind of amazing so here [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► you've got this case where where these [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► guys are are steeped in the history of [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► the Canon of Arthur Conan Doyle but they [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► also are smart professional you know [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► writers writing for a modern mainstream [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► bbc1 you know me here it's on PBS but [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► this is a mainstream channel big budget [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► production and they know they're not [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► going to blow it by making it obscure [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► and so they don't so they it's funny you [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► know because you think about sort of [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► sci-fi nerds and these guys are also [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► sherlock holmes nerds and they're doing [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► the same thing we're dropping in [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► continuity sort of like they do with [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► oh this is a [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► an alien who has mentioned briefly in [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► the first doctor in 1966 right it's it's [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► a lot like that but it's just there as a [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► garnish and it doesn't take away from [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► the main part of the story and some of [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► the adaptations are so clever just [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► Sherlock's nicotine patch addiction [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► oh yeah he can he can lay on the sofa [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► with his sleeve rolled up and you know [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► he slaps one of those odd leans back [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► just you know like he's taking a shot of [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► heroin for instance i wanted to mention [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► somebody mentioned it briefly the the [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► opening montage after we resolve the [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► cliffhanger which was just say the [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► clicker is resolved in very amusing way [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► we're essentially Moriarty is about to [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► have holmes and watson killed and as [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► they're standing there silently with the [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► little laser sights trained on Sherlock [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► and Watson's heads we here staying alive [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► the beginning of staying alive begin to [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► play and it turns out they are looking [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► at you like well what's that and then [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► Moriarty rolls his eyes and pulls out [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► his phone [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► it's his ringtone and he gets a call it [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► basically says something presumably he's [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► got something better to do [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► and so he goes well I gotta go by and [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► that's hit which is which is really [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► funny and phones in general and the [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► first season the phones and the texting [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► and and messages were really a major [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► part of of the of the story and here it [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► is as well we've got this interesting a [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► ringtone of Irene Adler where she [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► there's an it a nice sort of sighing [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► sound let's say and then the lock code [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► on her phone which contains all of the [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► all of the pictures that are [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► incriminating is a major plot point so i [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► think it's also funny that in depth in [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► these stories the cell phone which is so [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► important all of our lives is at the [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► core of the stories that they're telling [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► well show in and you know in some ways [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► in some ways in in the UK and Europe you [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► know that texting culture is even more [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► prominent that it is in the u.s. [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► surprisingly enough that it's been it's [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► been around longer and it's a little [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► more ingrained so it's nice that they [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► you know they filled i like when they [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► bring in the the modern the model [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► elements it's not necessarily [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► over-the-top I enjoy that they have [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► Watson instead of writing you know [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► newspaper accounts of homes is you know [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► cases that they have been maintaining [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► his blog and I see in the first episode [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► that his blog actually has become rather [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► popular and Sherlock has become kind of [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► a minor celebrity which leads to one [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► particularly oh you know i'm using scene [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► which even if you're not familiar with [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► Sherlock Holmes lower I think you'd get [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► the reference when they're forcing their [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► way out of what is it a theater and he [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► grabs a hat to disguise himself and of [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► course in your stalker for soccer so I [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► love that I love that they bring that in [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► eventually and they say everybody takes [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► pictures and it shows and montage very [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► cleverly done that they've got that that [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► shot of him in the deerstalker from [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► multiple angles in different papers so [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► you can see how it was like the all the [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► different cameraman for the different [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► papers were there and they all reprinted [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► it you know and then you've got Watson's [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► blog and that that's all part of a [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► montage that that the post-credit [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► sequence which is really excellently [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► done at that's what i was getting out [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► before that the lots of funny jokes and [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► references to different mysterious [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► circumstances including references to [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► the cannon there's a speckled blonde at [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► one point which is making reference to [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► the speckled band which is Sherlock [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► Holmes story may do a geek interpreter [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► which is a reference to the Greek [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► interpreter [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► oh yeah and the show doesn't like that [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► title and he doesn't think anybody's [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► gonna get it [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► have you actually been to the blog they [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► run the blog yeah they write up the [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► right places that aren't on the show on [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► the blog and the first season I went and [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► visited and it was great because all the [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► comments were also from characters in [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► the show and for many of the characters [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► in the show had their own websites like [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► a return is it Molly is she the other [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► the woman yak Molly Hooper he has her [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► own blog and it's all got pictures like [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► cats and everything on it it's an [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► excellent they did a very good job with [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► like you know flashing that all out [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► I'm reminded that they did a Twitter a [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► twitter account 244 Irene the the [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► whipping whipping hand or the whip and [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► that that that there was actually a fake [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► Twitter account too so you know lots of [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► really clever stuff but also that [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► montage just it not only does it serve [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► the purpose of of setting up with an [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► important plot point which is that [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► Sherlock has become much more well known [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► but it's also just really funny as they [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► have these like there's the guys they're [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► like the 323 nerds who who say well you [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► know it's like these things we see on [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► the internet and they sort of stayed you [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► pain away from them because Sherlock's [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► obviously not interested and then as [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► your painting away they said but then [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► they all came true in the end the pan [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► reverses itself and comes back because [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► suddenly like hope that sounds [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► interesting cause he's trying to find a [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► case that will hold his attention and [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► the best they can come up with is this [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► guy who shot out in the countryside [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► well there's the earth like there's a [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► backfiring car and and the guy out in [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► the countryside and what was it [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► something fell out of an airplane or [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► something in this message was a [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► boomerang [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► oh right it was the boomerang right [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► that's it airplane was a theory that was [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► that failed [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► it's like I didn't watch this episode [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► recently we also have like the the [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► person who says that is a from the [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► wikipedia page i think is the what the [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► wife's ashes or something weren't hers [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► and you know I that they created my [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► mother but these ashes are right i could [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► tell right and it all ties back [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► eventually it all ties back together [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► like a good TV show to the central [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► mystery case we're faking airplane crash [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► and everything right [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► we also get Mycroft who's played by Mark [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► Gatiss and he's a at a cog in the wheels [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► of the British government and you get [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► the sense of various points that he is [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► you know he's got a strained [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► relationship with his brother and he's [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► sometimes help but more often hindrance [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► and he gets Sherlock involved in the [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► case with Irene and the and the royal [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► family members that have been [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► compromising photos of them in [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► compromising positions it i don't know i [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► agree with John I i think this is the [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► strongest at the first episode of the [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► first season was also very strong but [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► it's certainly the strongest of this [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► season easily at and also liked the bit [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► with Molly you know you mentioned before [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► the attack has a crush on Sherlock and [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► she said she's kind of played for laughs [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► mostly in the first season or the first [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► series if you like yes thank you a [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► little british and yes splendid and in [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► this one in the first episode here kind [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► of the same thing happened [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► but then Sherlock kind of realizes that [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► like he hurt her feelings when he told [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► her that her sweater was ugly or [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► whatever the christmas thing and [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► everything later makes up for it so good [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► is it to humanization of sherlock and [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► whether it's because he's growing or [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► because we're getting to know him more [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► because he's lowering his walls it's the [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► development of the characters [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► interesting and it was desperately [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► needed after three episodes of Sherlock [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► Superman right well I think that's you [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► know a lot of that is the influence of [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► Watson to write like we've got you know [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► you've got Watson encouraging becoming [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► sort of his is interface with the public [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► but also sort of feeding that back to [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► him and encouraging him to become more [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► personable to a certain extent or just x [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► is sheer influence you know providing a [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► a example of look you don't have to be [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► this totally withdrawn character either [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► you can still relate to people i think [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► the casting is great because it really [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► brings that out i mean Cumberbatch looks [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► strange [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► yes alien and I mean only 0 he's all [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► angles and tall and handsome alien but [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► not not conventionally right he's gotta [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► be I agree with Greg he's got this very [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► weird face right but it works perfectly [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► for this role [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► well he's a printed British celebrities [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► Veila kinda weird red and then Martin [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► Freeman looks totally normal in every [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► way and they they fit their roles I mean [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► it's it i just think that works really [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► really well is the guy who is alien [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► looks to me at least odd and even Irene [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► Irene Adler who like it is beautiful but [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► is also for from the respective American [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► television shows where they always show [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► a grizzled detective the 22 year-old [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► woman right Irene Adler is not is not [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► funny too and it's from coming for [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► American television viewers refreshing [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► to see a woman who is not 18 to 22 or [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► playing you know it's like and someone [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► who was that successful and establishes [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► a dominatrix is not likely to be someone [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► in her early twenties right in the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► latter will be cast because right there [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► the most attractive on American TV so i [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► don't know i can express it without [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► making her feel like I'm saying she told [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► she's not very beautiful but also she's [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► my age [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► oh well then she really is yeah he's a [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► reduction over the incident but but [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► generally really good and then the [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► ending i thought was great because it [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► the notes I mean maybe you guys felt [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► differently for me at the end when we [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► find out that that she's that she's been [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► killed and we see sherlock sort of [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► checking his phone and you the setup of [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► it being this kind of bittersweet ending [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► for for Irene and that this was the [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► Sherlock sort of i equal match or or [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► close to a match and then in and i would [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► have to say true Steven Moffat fashion [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► because he does seem to hate he's like [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► the anti joss whedon sweetie loves [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► killing characters and and Steven Moffat [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► loves making you think they're going to [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► die for certain and then have them all [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► live at the end we get this crazy [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► flashback to her execution where [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► Sherlock Holmes is like he's he's posing [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► as well as the person who's going to [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► executor and he helps her escape from [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► the terrorist camp and presumably she's [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► now often you know off hidden somewhere [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► i wanted to see a happy ending and I was [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► glad i got to see the happy ending but [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► we got both right we got the sad ending [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► that could have faded out right there [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► and then boom we get this other ending [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► but we also had them them handling [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► Sherlock of like one of the first times [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► that now we're his friends were going to [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► do something to spare his feelings which [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► is a fairly unprecedented event in in [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► this show so far is that what you can't [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► like they want to tell her how she's in [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► the witness protection program because [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► they knew they knew how we felt about [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► her and I knew this is a delicate state [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► but this guy usually doesn't feel these [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► things and expresses things but we as [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► friends reality is killing them so we [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► better you no telling when its [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► protective of course then meanwhile you [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► know he's knows making you know yeah oh [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► yeah i'm up i'll keep looking at these [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► old texts are more than 300 it's also [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► said I know because I'm such [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► intellectual but really you know he's [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► fine he's saying out when I give a [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► thumbs up also to a nice usage of mrs. [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► Hudson where they at one point have her [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► tied up and interrogating her and she's [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► you know all tearful and pretending you [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► know I'm just [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► just the landlady or whatever and then [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► we have a nice little scene with them in [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► the kitchen where q reveals that she was [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► holding the information they were [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► looking for all along and totally played [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► you know these thugs for fools which I [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► just thought was a great little seen it [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► also did I mean mrs. Hudson is a bit [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► somebody else that Sherlock cares about [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► very very much yes he goes berserk it's [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► totally got the window [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► yeah exactly i love i love their [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► relationship with her again something [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► that's a nice callback to the original [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► source material while still being [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► treated in a way that feels you know [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► makes like it makes sense right in this [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► particular setting it would be it would [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► be really easy to have sherlock holmes [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► be mr. Spock write that to have him be [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► just a it was an emotionless kind of [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► computer would be ornery kinda huh maybe [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► he should maybe he should he should be a [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► star trek with fight mr. Spock in a [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► future star trek movie but uh but no I [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► mean Sherlock as a human being he has he [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► has feelings he's got problems we see [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► that with his many nicotine patches you [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► know and and he is he can be emotionally [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► affected just because he lives in his [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► own little what they call it it's like [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► his spot palace that he lives in this um [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► he he does he is affected by the world [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► it's just he's not affected by it like [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► we are because he's not like us he is [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► this special character but he definitely [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► feels and can get really mad and and [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► react accordingly final bit of credit to [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► this episode is that i liked it so much [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► that I managed not to spend the entire [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► time obsessing over the way they were [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► showing how I cell phone work or lock [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► code is that because i really was just [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► terrible but I giant praise indeed just [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► went with it you know but now that I'm [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► thinking about the episode like you know [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► it's for character password and like he [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► could have just brute force that in the [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► time you spent thinking about it but [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► anyway just what were there are a number [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► of wasn't gonna wipe itself after a [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► certain number of failures i think that [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► was the weather was also has a bomb on [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► the inside as many there was many things [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► about that phone they were like and I [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► know you would never have made a copy of [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► it yes i did but i was watching the show [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► I did not think about that so to the [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► shows Chris you gotta love you got you [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► got a cell phone with a bomb inside you [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► got a safe with a gun inside and safe [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► with the gun that's that's old school [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► right oh yeah we start saying [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► super-secret sealed cell phone you can [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► never get data off of because of my god [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► there's magic tape that holds the actual [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► Sherlock's an affinity for technology [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► seems to bounce back and forth at the [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► beginning of the very first episode you [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► know he's texting all the reporters [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► during last rods press conference [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► you know and they don't know how he's [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► doing it and then later on he just seems [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► nonplussed by like Watson's blog [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► yeah because of the technology or is [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► that because those technologies magic on [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► TV okay right but that's the thing that [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► the reason that lock code work for me is [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► because the be a UH the climax of of [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► that thing was that he had realized that [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► she had feelings for him and it was a [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► climactic emotional moment in the annals [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► of typing in the phone and I am [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► sherlocked and all that stuff was just [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► so beside the point you're just happy [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► that this this character development has [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► happened that he realizes that she has [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► feelings when he realizes that he has [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► feelings that also helped him solve the [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► problem all burst into song in it but [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► everybody know and she realizes that [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► heat that she had she is now revealed [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► and she's cheating herself as naked [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► despite the fact that she was naked in [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► the first thing now she's like you know [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► revealed and we see that Sherlock was [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► also still his brain was still working [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► when he was holding her wrist and [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► everything like that great episode she [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► knows that he knows that she knows that [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► he knows that turtle giving away down [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► there too bad about the second episode [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► yeah so yeah so from your thing [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► funny thing about the first season of [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► sherlock i remember watching it and we [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► talked about it briefly on a previous [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► podcast and you know people talk to me [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► about so do you like that and I said [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► well I like the first one I like the [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► third one the second episode of the [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► first season was really not very good it [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► kind of didn't make a lot of sense and [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► it was it wasn't it wasn't good it was i [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► can say now the worst of the sticks of [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► these i would say but this but I feel [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► like the pattern is repeated itself [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► where the middle episode of these three [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► this time this is the mark gatiss [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► episode he wrote the third episode last [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► year the hounds of baskerville adapting [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► obviously the Hound of the Baskervilles [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► and it was bad i thought it was bad i [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► again i thought that the first three [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► episodes were pretty good and that the [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► second episode was just not so good [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► there was stuff i really liked him that [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► there were individual parts of it that i [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► liked as well but as a whole it does [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► fall sort of flat and I thought that [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► climactic scene was just too ridiculous [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► which parts did you like no I mean there [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► are individual scenes I just like the [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► characters i like the estradas used well [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► here I think I think he feels like a [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► person there's a cover it what is the [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► line that there's a great dialogue scene [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► where they have something with you know [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► they they try to pull out the old you [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► know how i could tell you but I'd have [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► to kill you he gets office since you [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► know yeah it's as if I just didn't want [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► this up so recently but you gotta get [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► off the snappy was that there's some [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► funny writing there's some funny guy a [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► lot i like when they're down in the town [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► and they go to the pub and trying to get [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► information and there's some funny stuff [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► I think when they talked their way into [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► the Baskerville research facility or [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► whatever it is using my crops [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► information and and Sherlock just fakes [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► his way in think that's a really funny [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► scene that that and and they're worried [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► that you know they're going to place [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► that call and figure out that it's that [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► he's not the right homes and it's not [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► going to work as unlikely it is as it is [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► that that you could talk your way in and [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► there would be no like photo ID or [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► approval or something that they just [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► court sorta sure i'm i'm i'm Mycroft let [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► me in [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► but it's good stuff in there the biggest [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► problem with this episode is its [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► fundamental premise it it presumes at a [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► supernatural solution in the show that [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► is very much not about the supernatural [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► you know it's not going to be yet it's [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► not the x-files talking yet that's the [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► fake out the fake-out is that it's gonna [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► be awful but it's supernatural horror [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► spend a lot of time with the guy you [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► know staring out into his backyard being [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► afraid and you know that ultimately it's [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► not going to be a giant red-eyed hound [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► and it's gonna be dumb you know I did [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► you can just sense the second come on my [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► god this is gonna be so dumb i guessed [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► what the solution was and if I can guess [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► what the solution was you're not trying [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► because you're no Sherlock so so I'm [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► with the recent release [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► I just saw the other day of the avengers [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► movie I i was thinking back to this [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► because this is the solution is no hound [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► how does a an acronym for a special [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► orders a special you know and and the [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► Avenger of universals the marvel comics [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► were like that to wear their was like [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► their shield and has a ridiculous [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► background him and and and aim and Hydra [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► they all have their own little acronyms [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► that makeup & Hound is is a just right [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► out of that which is like really really [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► hound is an acronym for a military [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► laboratory and that somebody's wearing [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► you know live Liberty Indiana and that [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► would make this this kid think he is [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► he's got werewolves going its just oh [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► this nose so terrible I I think this is [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► the worst of the entire show [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► Wow but by far worse than i can run yes [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► i agree yeah I like 2i I didn't love the [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► second one from the first season but I [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► enjoyed it and this one was a little too [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► alright just too ridiculous we can agree [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► that episode to czar bad we can ya bring [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► happening something's wrong and they [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► finally they find the need to like [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► balance that you know the first one you [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► sort of got the coattails of you know [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► you either got the pilot or the [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► coattails of the last season right and [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► they stay put some good stuff up front [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► and in the last one as the cliffhanger [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► and the sort of the bill to the [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► conclusion where the middle ones just [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► like let's just come up with a story to [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► put in it they converted the star trek [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► curse but with with the show like this [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► where there's only three episodes per [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► season that kind of like you have room [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► for pirates in a doctor who thing right [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► you got more understanding that there's [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► just no there's no with three of them [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► please God just don't let there's no [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► room for pirates but he has no room for [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► that you can't have had the bad virus [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► across the black broken up because now [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► you've taken a third of the entire [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► season and dump it down the toilet [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► yeah it's yeah i heard i read an [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► interview with Mark Gatiss and he said [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► that he felt obligated to be more [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► respectful of the source material [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► because the hounds of Baskerville is so [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► well-known and I just think they worked [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► against what it is that establishes a [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► really effective formula was the source [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► material dumb because i don't know the [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► source material but this was no I mean [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► the source material even originally [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► really works is it does work but it's [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► cuz you got that you got that whole [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► victorian-era spooky gothic go stuff [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► right and that those even though you [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► know a lot of the stuff is going to turn [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► out to be explained rationally i think [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► the atmosphere of it works a lot better [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► than the original [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► I would be chemical weapons causing you [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► to causing my here's a good way said [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► fake it i believe it at some point in [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► here we're talking about genetically [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► altered you know or or read and at [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► attackanimal tonight with a bit i felt [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► like that would have been a better way [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► to go is to have it you know to have it [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► be that these are like biological [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► weapons or there's a breeding program [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► that control something that would be a [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► little more science fictional because we [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► live in an era where the oh it's ghosts [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► and specters it just doesn't get it you [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► know it just doesn't fly and so to use [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► that as the threat and say it's her I [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► remember turning my wife while you're [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► watching this and and saying is this an [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► x-files episode now because I just [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► that's not the frame of mind I'm in with [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► Sherlock Holmes I'm expecting a rational [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► solution and and then you know to [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► instead say well it's a military [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► conspiracy and there's a conveniently [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► you know if you're gonna commit a [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► horrible crime don't wear the t-shirt [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► that says found Liberty Indiana oh and [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► by the way if you're going to have a [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► secret government research lab don't [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► make t-shirts t-shirts with your [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► location written on them it's like any [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► other startup I didn't care about the [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► guy with what's-his-name the guy who's [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► having the nightmares arrested right he [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► was such a focus of the episode but I [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► don't [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► they're about him I don't care that he's [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► got problems like he's not that you know [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► especially after the first episode but [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► they made you care so much about your [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► lead characters you want you want to see [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► them like you want to see them growing [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► through you know even just like [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► Microsoft or Moriarty like that's that's [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► your main cast here and the other guys [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► they focus so much on a chair was having [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► nightmares I know it's gonna be dumb and [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► it's not gonna it's not stressing out [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► with other guys to solve this stupid [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► case there's no debate Mulder and Scully [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► style even between them to saying oh I [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► think it's go sorry can't because now [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► there's none of that it's just you [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► wouldn't have cared you wouldn't have [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► cared who it was because it was stupid [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► yeah I mean yes and water gets locked in [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► the lab and he's terrified you don't [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► care because you know as soon as you get [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► some fresh air is good it was it was it [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► I was a senior editor see was better [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► though and this and this is what I'm [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► getting from this conversation is is [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► this is an example of a very good show [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► doing a bad episode and it's bad because [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► there are some overarching problems with [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► it that just sort of make it fall apart [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► it's not to say that there is some stuff [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► in it that's good because I like i said [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► i like the village i liked the stuff [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► with a straw coming down I like stuff in [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► the pub where there to where we're [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► Watson and homes are sort of lying to [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► people about their identities to get [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► them to talk to them and give them [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► information there's like a therapist and [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► they get that get day to get his [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► therapist to break confidentiality which [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► is I thought that was funny i like the [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► scene with Watson trapped in the lab I [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► thought that was I thought that was [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► scary but i like that Holmes did it but [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► if I didn't it was just tedious but it [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► all you know even even if you like that [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► stuff i mean III agree with the [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► overarching idea here which is that it [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► all is for nothing because it it made no [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► sense and and this and that the the end [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► is this kind of foggy it's supposed to [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► be this like spooky were on the more [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► kind of thing accepted is it fog or yes [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► it is fog but it's also chemical [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► hallucinogens and and you can't [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► understand what's going on it just [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► yeah it was like they ran out of ideas [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► and time and said well you know we give [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► up the store and then the story is over [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► it was just a mess on all fronts [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► now I guess that we've settled that hope [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► you're not looking for an argument sorry [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► Marcus [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► while it has a nice let's not forget the [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► ending there is a brief little hint at [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► the end where we see we see Moriarty [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► again it doesn't get released by Mycroft [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► and yes which is an interesting you know [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► sort of brief moment of what is going on [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► heat we see him briefly show up in the [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► first episode as well as a contact of [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► Irene Adler's right she's working for [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► him right so we have that thread is [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► still going micro you know [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► Moriarty's left them alone for now but [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► at the same time you know he's [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► constantly in the back there as a threat [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► and so we have these nice little [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► building scenes with him but we don't [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► entirely know what's going on right [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► so in the Reichenbach Fall this is our [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► episode that is obviously based on the [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► final problem which is the episode where [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► are the current oil decided he was tired [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► of sherlock holmes was going to kill him [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► which worked out great for him and uh [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► and so he plunged in a battle with [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► Moriarty he plunged the feet [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► theoretically to their deaths over the [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► record block Falls and so this is the [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► episode about Moriarty and Holmes and [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► Moriarty moriarity's diabolical plan to [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► destroy sherlock holmes haha uh this has [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► got that flashback structure that is [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► still kind of invoke although you know [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► it's it's used i guess to a purpose here [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► i'm just really tired of that where [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► where you start off with something that [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► was at the end in this case Watson says [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► sherlock holmes is dead and then we [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► flash back to see how it happened and [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► it's all about this kind of Moriarty is [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► a master criminal and he breaks into the [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► crown jewels and the banks and has a [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► computer virus or something and and [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► allows himself to be caught so that he [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► can be put on trial and then I guess he [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► bribes the jurors and they let him off [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► or threatens the Germans them through [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► the cable TV [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► well I like the fact that he's a [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► magician's episode 3 doesn't have actual [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► magic he's a magician how do you get to [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► get a put off on a trial you get [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► something all the jurors how do you [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► break into you know the crown jewels you [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► bribe the guards and party and I didn't [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► like that that the eventual solutions [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► like you idiot on a code breaks also [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► carried it what is that some stupid [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► thing you see on TV you know just kind [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► of making fun of itself [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► yeah i paid I paid the guy and and all [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► the things that it's done well that's [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► imagine that whole set that whole anyone [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► else get a little freaked out with that [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► one bit where he's pretending to be an [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► actor I really you know what they're [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► going for there and it's like I know [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► that they're gonna what they're trying [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► to go for me i know that there is but [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► did you did you still make it go on long [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► enough they make it go on loan until [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► like you started to go with Sherlock [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► crazy is this and I just another not so [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► much that but like really are it are the [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► creators of this show so daring that [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► they're going to go with this like [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► straight up you know and say oh no [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► really act [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► those first those last four things you [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► saw where the delusions of a madman you [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► know and he was it unknowingly setting [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► himself up to solve these cases tyler [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► durden style right because I mean why [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► couldn't why not do that right so I they [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► did that seem long enough where I was [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► like I guess they could oh no you got me [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► all right it's Moriarty yeah but it's [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► good and you're right there's that [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► there's that great fake-out of the we [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► actually see the the guards at as the [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► dynamic the computer is the stuff [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► unlocks and you're led to believe that [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► we're seeing that standard kind of like [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► Oh something's happened to our computers [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► and that may be back to it later and [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► show that know it was you know it wasn't [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► it was social engineering basically that [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► led to that and it wasn't at all what we [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► were what we were led to believe which [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► we tend to believe right because that's [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► like the typical sort of plot [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► imaginations in a modern TV drama [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► including on the show including on the [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► show that's right so I i like the the [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► little cells and like when this episode [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► started they're like oh Moriarty's doing [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► these magic things and he's going to get [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► the crown jewel so I was like after the [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► the hands of basketball's my god know [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► how they're going to blow number 32 [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► I liked how they turned it around and [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► said no no he just get his pride people [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► yeah that was it that was a nice was a [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► nice touch [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► I mean it brings it brings it home maybe [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► appreciate having him sitting there on [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► the throne with the ground rules on [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► which was silly and hokey but that i [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► still give it a thumbs up right that [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► this is all a plot scheme by diabolical [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► Moriarty [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► whoo-hoo let's see what's the sequence [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► of events here is similarity is is [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► acquitted and he sets up Sherlock to be [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► viewed as a fraud and then Moriarty [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► threatens Sherlock's friends and he ends [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► up on the roof of a building right but [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► not always good idea it's gotta be [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► assassins out in the world to do his [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► bidding any basically says if I don't [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► give them a call the great kill everyone [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► you care about Sherlock me it's not me [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► on this on this building right right now [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► it's a battle of wills [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► shut up a showdown at high noon your [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► brain against my brain right before he [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► goes there he visits in the morgue with [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► Molly and then he goes which is [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► important because that's totally a setup [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► for the resolution of this mystery but [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► uh so they end up on the roof and in a [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► moment and again we're we're we're [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► talking about the third episode so if [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► you do not want to be spoiled [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► do not listen to any further let's we're [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► gonna talk about what happens here the [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► the moment that is shocking and and [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► brilliant and surprised me is when [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► Moriarty makes it perfectly clear that [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► he's the only one who can call off the [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► assassins and if he doesn't call them [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► off they will kill mrs. Hudson and [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► Lestrade and Watson and he blows his [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► brains out [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► I love that was the trump card because [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► he's like you know this battle will i [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► know that you can call them off so i [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► just have to figure out from what I know [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► of you are you the kind of puma up sorry [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► but thank you yeah the end so great to [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► have sherlock standing on the roof and [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► there's that moment like all right mr. [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► big brain [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► yeah what are you gonna do now he has [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► contingencies [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► yep just like a you know just like Lucas [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► got Plan B and C and B it reminded me of [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► the end of seven where the completion of [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► his plan happens to be his own death [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► except at the end of 7 it you know he [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► got to see it all the way through the [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► bullet entering his brain was [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► confirmation that it worked here he [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► kills himself too early and I i I'd like [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► the Moriarty character even though he's [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► you know kind of the the supervillain [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► who runs everything behind the scenes is [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► a little overdone [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► no I can't blame them for using it [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► because it Arthur Conan Doyle kind of [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► invented it but I yeah I don't think he [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► would have killed himself before making [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► sure that he had defeated Sherlock well [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► the thing is he didn't get what he [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► didn't go up there planning to shoot [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► himself he seems like he came to that [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► realization on the roof that in this [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► battle of wills this was the only way he [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► felt like he could decisively win and I [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► think he didn't think like but I think [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► he realizes they thought it was a [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► checkmate [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► yeah if he stands you yeah if he stays [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► alive he's gonna lose this battle and it [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► but it figures but I've got that one [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► trump card because I'm crazy and so he [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► didn't go up on the roof figuring I'm [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► gonna go up on the roof and kill myself [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► he just got sort of drawn into that and [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► its final triumph from like he's [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► cornered you know and so I'm going to be [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► defeated but I've got this one last [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► thing I think he was triumphant as he [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► shot himself he just didn't think it [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► through quite long enough it is hard to [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► believe that he is willing to go to that [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► link i mean it does make an and a a [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► breathtaking moment while he is he's [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► also crazy i love the way it worked out [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► in the story i mean i just it the moment [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► where he shoots himself is kind of like [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► oh my god [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► odd but I don't know that somebody who [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► had spent so much time [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► rising up through the world with so many [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► his finger in so many different things [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► suddenly comes across Sherlock as [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► something that is not going to bore him [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► and then ends the game [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► well he wants to win I mean that's the [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► thing about I like the fact that he was [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► that he does he does do something he [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► does do something kind of rash and [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► everything because I you said Moriarty [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► as the like I'm the mastermind and I'm [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► gonna be around for 20 more seasons of [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► the show and it's I liked it better when [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► he's he's silly and flawed and just a [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► common criminal but wants to match with [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► Sherlock this is the culmination of his [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► life basically found the guy who he [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► wants to defeat to prove himself he's [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► bored he could be rich if you wanted he [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► could steal anything he wants you can do [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► anything you want but he wanted to meet [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► sherlock and he comes to this inclusion [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► doesn't stay around for it though he [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► doesn't stay around for Sherlock's to [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► feel he thinks that's the final move but [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► he can't be sure i know well it was the [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► final move Charlotte is dead right [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► not quite but what you don't like from [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► his perspective as far as he's concerned [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► that he's got all his eyes and cross [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► those teas and he kind of got into the [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► corner but he says I i see i can reach [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► her victory so he goes out think he's a [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► hundred percent one and if it wasn't a [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► show titled named after the character [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► who you want to die he probably would [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► have won [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► it's a big series finale of Moriarty you [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► have read Moriarty back for anything i'm [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► even by name i'm gonna be pissed off he [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► has a 22-21 killing him and he just [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► needs to disappear [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► yeah yeah although I you know jumping [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► off John's point I i think it's also the [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► way to view it is that this is the only [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► way he could plausibly win and he [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► doesn't want to lose so he's willing [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► essentially because he's crazy to kill [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► himself in order to give himself the [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► best chance of ruining Sherlock even it [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► even if it's not a hundred percent sure [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► it's gonna work [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► I think he figures this is his he's bees [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► that he doesn't matter living lot now [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► he's got it he's dead [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► every move he can make the same only [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► move left and hopefully it will work in [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► this better living in a world where he [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► knows he's been defeated but that's the [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► Sherlock oh yeah I hate him I just [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► couldn't walk out five minutes before [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► the end of a show not knowing how it [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► turns out for any if you're in the show [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► well you're not Moriarty well [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► so so I'm great moments on the rooftop [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► with Sherlock after that moment [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► afterward where he's standing there and [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► that there's the body on the roof and [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► then we've got Sherlock calling Watson [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► and a leaving his suicide note right [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► where he admits everything is is true [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► because he's trying to save them and [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► then he he jumps off the building and we [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► see somebody fall off the building and [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► land and smashed into the ground behind [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► a dumpster and widened Watson is about [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► to go a look at run to the the spot but [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► he's hit by a guy on a bike [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► coincidentally huh and you can't hear or [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► anything he's in a daze he's all [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► confused by the time he gets there the [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► people from the morgue are carding the [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► body away recording something like [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► something's happening [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► he's kinda fuzzy obviously efficient [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► morgue yeah interesting it's as if they [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► were tipped off in advance [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► is that something might happen but one [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► of the nice things about the way that [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► this works is all the pieces are there [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► and we get to think about how they [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► interlock but it's not solved for us and [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► that's like you know we need anybody who [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► knows the history of Sherlock Holmes [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► knows that the oil conan doyle tried to [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► try to kill them off and then brought it [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► back and so if you go to go into this [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► knowing that then you know that [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► Sherlock's not going to be dead you know [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► because it's a british show who knows [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► they could kill them at the end of it [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► but you know that you have to fake kill [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► him because that's part of the mythology [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► so how and I appreciate that they that [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► they left turn it right from the again [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► speaking of those who know the sort of [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► the cannon going into it thinking all [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► the Reichenbach Falls right you know at [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► the end they wrestle at the waterfall [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► and fall off the waterfall in their [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► bodies aren't seeing or whatever and so [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► we have that nice little bit at the [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► beginning where he recovers the painting [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► of the Reichenbach Falls and so I was [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► waiting the whole time for like oh [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► they're going to like you know how [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► closely are they going to adapt this and [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► then they go in a totally different [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► direction and it works so much better if [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► you see if you've seen the [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► robert downey jr Jude log Sherlock [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► Holmes to they he wrestles more audio [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► and downfalls and it's dull well I mean [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► it's a different it's a different sort [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► of adaptation i think and i agree that [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► this wonderful definitely want to turn [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► know it's great that they that they [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► showed to you at the end right it would [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► be really I was really concerned that [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► they were going to play completely [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► straight as a cliffhanger of is he dead [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► hmm well I'm not much of a cliffhanger [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► man here will be back for a season three [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► of the guy who killed himself also the [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► kind of creepy he hangs out his own [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► grave site [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► well what you know see who shows up [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► she's living there right [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► ok here are ppl say about him I mean but [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► every every character whoever fakes his [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► death rides always to their owners you [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► neural right if you're ever going to see [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► someone who you think is dead but might [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► not be checked behind the tree next to [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► the grave that's another always are [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► yeah okay I didn't like that man it's a [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► nice moment the way they pan over and [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► he's behind the tree and the music [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► swells and that's the end so it you know [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► I thought this was AI thought this [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► episode was pretty good [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► um you know I love the interplay between [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► on the rooftop especially some of the [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► setup stuff [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► yeah i don't know i mean some of it made [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► me feel uncomfortable because they [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► really are attacking the you know [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► attacking Sherlock and the whole premise [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► of the show and you're like oh what's [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► what's he really doing here although the [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► the tone when Moriarty's breaking in all [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► the crimes that are possible to be [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► broken in England simultaneously it's [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► kind of fun and like what is he doing [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► because you know you can't not watch it [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► on the metal level of like what's the [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► real story here this is too simple [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► Moriarty must have some sort of plan so [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► you have to have that going in [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► but I thought it was good as a little [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► overly dramatic i mean they're going to [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► see how it's got to be all about [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► everything you ever cared about is [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► entire series will put you put into [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► question one final episode that will be [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► unsatisfying cliffhanger but really he's [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► alive I mean there's a little bit of [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► that that's why didn't like it isn't [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► nearly as much as the first episode of [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► but it's alright it was certainly a big [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► step up from the stupid hounds you don't [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► really get the you've run along race [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► there been retold these many stories and [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► now you get your big resolution when [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► it's a three-episode season record ya [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► know the episode length really works in [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► their favor i think i agree or not [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► having to frame things into an hour and [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► they get to stretch them out to a [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► mini-movie and I i think that has really [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► benefited the series being able to tell [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► larger room your stories even if it does [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► mean a three-episode season it's an [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► equivalent of six doctor who episode so [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► it's sort of a half the length of what a [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► season of doctor who is but they stack [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► those episodes together and I i agree i [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► like the fact that they're the they're [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► there many movies that also means we had [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► a two-part a two-part hound series you [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► can you imagine if we had a two-part [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► part pirate episode would be killing [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► ourselves like come on and we have the [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► two-part silurian episode of dr. that's [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► pretty bad but yeah we still don't know [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► what you're talking about she is doing [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► this more than they used to but they [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► there's another series which the BBC [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► sent me a pretty much greater yes called [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► black mirror that is 3 90 minute [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► episodes or 45 minute episodes and I [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► think and it's it's it's just it it [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► works in a way that that I haven't seen [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► in dead it in black mirror they're [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► totally unrelated but there they just [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► function is nice little chunks of [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► content they do short seasons over there [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► and one of the reasons i think is to get [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► more stuff on the air that the other [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► budgets are limited and so they're [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► willing to 23 episodes here and five [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► episodes there instead of in the [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► American model where everything's 13 or [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► ideally 22 episodes a year you know it [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► is i like i said i wish i wish it was [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► more like six but at the time it takes [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► to do it like I don't think first off [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► Steven Moffat I mean doctor who is [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► almost year-round and he's doing this [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► and then i'm not sure whether Benedict [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► Cumberbatch which I just love saying it [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► is is available or Martin Freeman is [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► available to do [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► much more than this a year anyway and it [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► sounds like they want to keep doing this [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► it we should say no Benedict [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► Cumberbatch's we will mentioned earlier [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► he's in currently filming the next star [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► trek movie Martin Freeman has finished [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► or is still in the midst of filming the [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► two Hobbit movies one of which is coming [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► this fall for this winter [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► so these guys are in demand and Martin [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► Freeman is becoming like the game movie [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► god [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► yeah well anyways don't forget batteries [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► Benedict Cumberbatch also in The Hobbit [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► no invoice only oh yes he's a dragon i [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► believe i believe you up so so these [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► guys are busy and so we you know maybe [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► three episodes all weekend getaway we [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► can ask for more but given the day that [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► that they only are making to good [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► episodes he hit her yeah that's an [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► invention like how much good writing is [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► then we talked about this with Doctor [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► Who to like maybe they just maybe they [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► just don't have that many good episodes [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► in the moment like maybe if they did [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► could be trim off the bad episodes of [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► Doctor Who make a shorter season I'd and [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► here they just have to do three and they [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► still they just can't hang out three [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► that are up to the left the highest [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► level like it's really uneven for a [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► series that has three episodes a year [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► you know really uneven and he said you [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► up down up [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► I mean it's yeah so maybe maybe cut back [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► two to two-and-a-half or what I don't [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► know what you have to do anything you [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► think back to that some of the shows [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► that we love for American TV just like I [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► mean that was part of the sopranos or [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► something like we're at the sopranos has [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► ups and downs but man they did like [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► umpteen episodes that ended the there [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► was much the standard deviation was you [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► know how much longer this was very more [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► of an even keel like highlights and a [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► couple of lights but not these big dips [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► you know it seems like they just don't [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► have I don't know if Steven Moffat is is [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► over committed or they don't have the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► time or they just have bad judgment [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► about what's gonna work and what's not [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► going to but it is different when you're [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► trying to make things which are [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► essentially you're essentially making [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► three movies right i mean i think that [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► has a different in some ways you know a [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► different proposition than making you [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► know what it's like extra 30 minutes but [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► again think of the sopranos a lot of [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► those things were two episode arcs that [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► they just happen to be split up because [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► the episodes were only an hour longer or [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► whatever and they would come in little [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► batches like that but you know our pick [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► any other series that you want that has [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► just better consistency with men [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► much much more content and I don't know [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► if it's this because the writers don't [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► have time the actors don't have time or [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► there's some some other functional I [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► don't watch many british shows as Doctor [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► Who and Sherlock mainly in and the both [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► have the same problem of course both of [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► them involve Steven Moffat so maybe [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► that's part of the well I mean I watch a [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► lot of pressures I don't think that's [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► anything necessarily endemic to to you [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► know stuff produced there i think the [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► space was a hundred percent good there [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► goes another example [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► well I want to put in it and there's a [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► lot of stuff that just has to be much [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► more even keel but it may just depend [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► with the writing staff in this [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► particular show i do think that it's [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► exacerbated by the small sample size [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► right i mean if if you do 20 episodes [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► and you have three or four bad ones you [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► kind of shrugging off a little bit more [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► with I know with doctor who with 13 you [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► know you have that pirate episode and [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► you're like wait a second you know you [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► only have 13 make them all good and I'm [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► sure like you only have three [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► why can't they all be good and and it [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► does [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► I you know I don't know whether it some [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► some of it may just be the production [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► system that they don't have the ability [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► to Commission eight scripts and then [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► pick three good ones they commissioned [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► three scripts and if you get angry at [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► his finger and probably also with roses [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► this case it's from the one of the [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► co-executive producers so is there [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► somebody really there to say you don't [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► think you might not have time like it if [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► it's not working you have to just go [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► with it because we don't have time to [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► write a new one and filming new one we [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► have to just go without I guess yeah [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► yeah but but that said I mean even with [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► these these clunkers in the middle [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► uh you know even with a bad episodes [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► there are things about them that are [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► good and the way their shot and and some [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► of the scenes and when this show is on [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► I you know it's really quite good and [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► and a fact that this is we're talking [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► about sherlock holmes right i mean that [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► they have taken this character that has [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► been on not just you know was written [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► about more than a hundred years ago but [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► has been interpreted in film and TV time [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► and time again and done something that [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► is successful and interesting and fresh [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► and modern you know all it is a great [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► accomplishment because this really could [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► have stunk right i mean Orban boring [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► and/or Orban like those two robert [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► downey jr movies and it's not so i'm [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► looking at wikipedia which is the source [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► of all knowledge as we know [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► uh and it looks like uh oh yeah they're [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► not gonna even start producing the show [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► until early 2013 notnot Aaron 2013 are [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► going to start producing it so it's [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► gonna be a long time before we see more [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► everyone's going to be old but yeah [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► Benedict Cumberbatch's gonna have one [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► aa2 academy awards for all the film [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► roles that he'll be taking in the next [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► two years so any other final comments [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► about Sherlock before we before we close [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► the door on season two series to make [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► more making yeah so I think what I mean [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► despite our despite our complaints i [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► think you know there's no argument that [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► will all turn in tune in for the next [TS]