97: Everybody Loves Hypnotoad
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the incomparable podcast number 97 july
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welcome back to another episode of the
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incomparable i'm glenn fleischmann
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substituting for Jason L who is
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he's been disposed of somewhere in the
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Pacific Northwest right now and this
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week we're talking about futurama the
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animated TV series that has more lives
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than any program I believe ever on
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television to TV show that's one of the
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geekiest most scientifically accurate
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programs of fiction ever broadcast and i
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have with me tonight three guests to
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talk about the show and Enoch oh you
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know and Enoch oh great guy that guy we
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love him he's on many podcast you hear
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him on macbreak weekly is that right
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that's true on your mom the incomparable
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here mon boy squeaking podcast and any
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runs the celestial excuse me the
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celestial waste of time saying sightron
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selected you'll waste of time
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a celestial waste of bandwidth because
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this is located on the internet or
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bandwidth this used to be a one-point
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important no longer finance so thank you
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Andy for joining us and also have been
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but knee-deep Brittany of Boing Boing
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the code wrangler they're responsible
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for its back ND and welcome to the
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incomparable I want to thank you and
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Dean has recently completed watching
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futurama back-to-front so he can talk in
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depth about anything that we forgotten
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how much more recently and i also have
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Jonathan self who is a first timer on
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the incomparable John is executive
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editor at a funny publication that
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writes about shiny objects that some
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people buy that are aluminum and pretty
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tight right my shiny metal Mac bite my
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shiny metal that's right so thanks for
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being on everybody and so the futurama
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was funny it's a I want to think it was
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an acquired taste that when I first
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found out about the show I thought I was
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the only one watching and it turned out
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that was sort of true at one point you
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know futurama has this crazy history of
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being on the air it comes from for
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listeners who don't know the show and
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you'll have a chance to explore its has
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had several seasons now those seasons
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have broken up in a sort of ridiculous
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way it was an outgrowth of some ways of
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the simpsons is co-created by matt
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groening a simpsons creator and one of
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the longtime writers and showrunners
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david cohen David X Cohen x not his real
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middle name who came up with this notion
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Matt back to it and they created this
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spinoff show that was supposed to run
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around the same time as the simpsons on
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the Fox television network in the end
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fox for some reason they had this
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strange antipathy for the show it's not
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that disrupted poorly but they like to
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move it around a lot so it first aired
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from 1999-2000 three on broadcast
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television with any given week you
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wouldn't know where you'd find it on the
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what time would be on that week because
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of football and other things then it was
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in reruns from 2003-2007 on cartoon
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network but it was did so well there
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after a reboot of family guy
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direct-to-dvd the Fox home television
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network a different part of box that was
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little clever 20th Century Fox
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television portion i guess in the home
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port heart commission for direct to DVD
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movies that later within aired on Comedy
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Central which they took over this
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indication of the previously our
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episodes and that's been on Comedy
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Central since they did 26 new episodes
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in 2010-2011 and the new season just
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launched in middle of june with a two
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back-to-back episodes in the season
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premiere sort of crazy and i had the
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opportunity for Boing Boing a few weeks
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ago to talk to David X Cohen about the
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show and and he you know he laughs it's
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amazing laughs first here's the show has
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not been continuously produced you know
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since 9i tension is produced in fits and
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starts but it's pretty amazing to
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survive that long and its tribute I
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think to the great great fan ship behind
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it so anyway that's the that's what we
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got to here now so this week we'll talk
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the show more in-depth we like it's some
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of our favorite episodes of new episodes
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and in the future of futurama so and i
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know that your big fan you you're one of
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the folks who are advocating for
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futurama seemed uncomfortable episode
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what do you like about the show so much
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have you been a fan from the beginning
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yeah i mean you start off as a simpsons
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fan and so you just hear the same team
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that does the simpsons doing a new show
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oh my god are you on board for that but
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I really think that
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futurama surpassed the simpsons probably
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and that's not a slam against the
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simpsons I think it's just because the
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writers and approaches they get a break
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and enforced break unfortunately but I i
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think that they have had enough time to
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really develop the characters time off
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to explore other things and I do think
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that they invest far far more in every
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episode than any writing staff on any
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other great animated series ever there
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every to every time i'm at the end of a
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really great episode
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you're really aware of how they spurned
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every opportunity to take a shortcut and
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on so many other shows
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they'll come up the they'll be an
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interesting idea they lead off with and
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then it sort of Peters out for five
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minutes and they jump off and go into
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something else I think the futurama it's
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like they come with a really bizarre
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idea that's really great Gilbert and
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Sullivan style idea and then they sort
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of like stop that part of the creative
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meeting and they just sit around all day
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and think about what are the
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consequences of this like if if if
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bender really was able to create a
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60-percent scaled-down virtudes
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60-percent scaled-down duplicates of
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themselves at will
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what would eventually happen based on
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not only what we know about these
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characters but also what we know about
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science and they will play it out to the
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very very very and I was watching a
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bunch of episodes over the past two or
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three days and it really occurred to me
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that how many different times have we
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witnessed different characters or maybe
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the entire cast experiencing the
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entirety of the universe's evolution
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from start to finish
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I was that I was watching one of my
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favorite shows a clockwork origin and
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once again here's another one where they
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get to watch everything
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from start to finish was looking at the
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late Philip J fry in which they
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refreshments the time machine that can
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only move forward and they have to watch
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the entire creation and death of the
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universe three times they have a beloved
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kind of OCD that said no no we can't
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skip anything if they have a time
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machine that only goes forward this is
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the only way they can possibly get back
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the science is wonderful but and the in
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here again they're doing things in a
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really difficult way I I loved a
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clockwork origin because it starts off
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the way that you would assume that a
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very nerd geek oriented show would go
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over we're going to talk about
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protesters protesting the teaching of
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evolution and you serve clasping your
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hands are great they're going to really
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stick it to those people who want
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although textbooks rewritten to say that
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you know that the universe was created
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600 they're going to really stick it to
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them and by the end of the show they're
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actually saying well actually there's a
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possibility that creationism really
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exists maybe we shouldn't actually
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dismiss these people as idiots because
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there is a way that evolution and
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creationism can actually sit
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side-by-side that is not only a
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difficult thing to do
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it's a risk keeping to do it really is
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that idea that they always take the hard
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way out and they make it so much better
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for all that well I don't agree with
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that too is where they see everything
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through their conclusion they don't make
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a cheap joke and right if and you know i
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think another running joke in the show
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is never agree is that the number of
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times that Philip J fry dies he dies and
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dies that he beat doctor who you know in
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Doctor Who the current weather character
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pains Rory Rory dies many times but I'm
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afraid Philip fry has to hide don't know
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how many times for real and fantasies in
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you know with cloning and robots and
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reassembly really is a thousand years
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old so that was also he's also ancient
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writings of thousands been frozen for a
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thousand years i suppose in place should
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be cap the you know for people who
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haven't seen the shell there may be some
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incompetent listeners the show
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essentially follows Philip J fry is a
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pizza delivery boy on the eve of the
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terminal nem comes two thousand falls
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into a cryogenic suspension chamber is
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working in the year 3000
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and meets up with his many time
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great-nephew dr. Farnsworth who is a mad
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genius and runs delivery company and
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hijinks ensue he falls in love so do you
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just watch the entirety of the show
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again the themes that emerged for you
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from watching the whole thing from front
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yeah actually there are few things in
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particular the way they the show changes
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after its in cancelled and brought back
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I and it like when they first come back
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they take they they come back with think
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season five numbers got weird to so i
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think the four DVD movies or straight to
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DVD movies i think are all supposedly
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he's like 16 episodes of season 5 mm
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technically well five on IMDb is the one
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with Jurassic bark and the staying the
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Farnsworth pair Farnsworth para box
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those types of things on that season I
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think technically that season four is
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not once a season 5 says five on mtv
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it's a little it's a little weird but no
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but I don't you start to let that was
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the last one of the farms work paradox
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this was the last that was part of the
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season was this 2003 yes one of the last
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ones i realized i was looking at my
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favorite episodes and several them come
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from the end of the last broadcast run
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and David Cohen said we talked recently
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reminded me that the show is really
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cancelled after season three and they
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had so many episodes in the hopper that
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the fourth season was bits and pieces of
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everything that they hadn't yet aired so
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a lot of good stuff showed up there but
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they were just trying to be running it
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out if you look at the production
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numbers for those they're like third the
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third season of production and they
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aired and what was called the four
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season and the season was mostly the
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fourth season production like it's
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really confusing especially when you're
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trying to rip your dvds and then tag
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them you have to try to figure out the
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dvds have them in the production order
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not in the running order so gets really
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confusing when you're watching him from
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the disk it goes from being kind of like
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I jokes about the future
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and things like that to this really
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think II season all of a sudden it gets
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very deep and it's talking about like I
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you know fries dog and it's it's a very
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emotional where his relation fries
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relationship with Leela grows it grows a
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lot and it changes quite a bit and then
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it kind of it stops again there
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we're not guiding a new Watchers to is
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so Leela is the one I'd we first think
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she's an alien the early seasons turns
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out spoiler alert
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Leela is actually a mutant from the
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sewers underneath the city of New York
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and she's the captain of the planet
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express delivery ship that's one by one
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by dr. Farnsworth and fries love
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interest but she's always rejected and
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partly because fries kind of an idiot he
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sort of a homer simpson great idiot
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within extreme streaks of cleverness and
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persistence so that's part of the
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running thing right is that this is a
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the tension between whether they will
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actually become a couple or not any more
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of a slob and Homer Simpson actually so
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he's got that going for him he goes from
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just kind of being a slob and being
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uninformed to kind of being an idiot and
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and Homer Simpson kind of does the same
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the same ah traversal there where he's
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just he becomes the butt of the joke on
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his own intelligence rather than his his
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ignorance or his like misunderstanding
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of situations and and it's a subtle
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difference but it's it's kind of
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disappointing i think to see him become
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like such a brew basically wasn't the
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problem in the simpsons to is that
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homeowners intelligence varied from sub
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Neanderthal to like almost normal for
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episode episode and sometimes he came up
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with a brilliant business ideas and
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executed them at the same thing with fry
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like if you look at the episode one of
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my favorites the devil's hands are idle
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playthings which fri does a deal with
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the devil and compose this opera this
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holographic opera but he has the ability
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to compose an operating extra
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intelligence just got the hands you like
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he is such a sensitive soul and
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intelligence to compose this you know
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lyrical work and yet he can barely tie
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his shoes remember to swallow it
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listen I think he's more like Homer
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Simpson without the without the ability
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to get completely distracted and
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unfocused disease easier basic guy in
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his you know early to mid-twenties where
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he hasn't found his life's goal yet he
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hasn't found that drive and ambition I
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don't think he's in he's a super idiot
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he's just a little bit a bit of a
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surface surface into let's just say but
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but once he once he realized that
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something has to be done
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he's gonna work it out he's gonna get it
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done we've seen so many feature on
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episodes where he is absolutely
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dedicated focused and devoted and yes
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yes he has faithfully as a pair of lucky
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pants that gets any situation but but
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but but then you realize that the
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writers actually like it appreciate that
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because he's one in this episode in
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which they need to evacuate the earth
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there's an escape ship with a limited
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number of seats on it
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the government creates a machine that
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the professor's old old old man probably
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die soon anyway brilliant brilliant
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inventor pass your ticket delivery boy
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nowhere no or no valuable skills past
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Leela like overcomes all these
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ridiculous like I detriments that he has
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he rearranges the stars for her he lets
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her onto the spaceship there he he's in
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he's in this in the sting he's going to
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them most of the things his when he's
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it's in the defense or in the wooing of
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selfless a lot of the time like he's
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gets freaked out and does things but i
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think it's it's a weird character in
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that I'm that he's willing to always
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write throw himself
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whatever to do anything he gives up
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there's an episode in which it's the one
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with the spaceship gets a new
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personality that with the sigourney
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weaver's voice love and rocket fuel
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love and I'm in little rock and there's
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a bit of course we're recreating part of
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the scene from 2001 and disabling how
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space and space suits pushing out cans
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of slur much are like memory core units
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oxygen tank was empty and fri without
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telling your pops is chosen to her so
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that he might die so she can let me just
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and there's a thousand incidents like
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that in the show but yeah I'm i think we
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should talk favorite episodes before we
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get too far along i think we've
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introduced some of the basic concepts
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think we've pointed at you lease so i
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think you should come up what's one of
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your favorite episodes of this program
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well you mentioned film or a second ago
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Hermes Conrad who is the rasta
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bureaucrat who sort of runs the office
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and those all the paperwork and
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everything and he's definitely one of my
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favorite characters and there's an
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episode called how hermes requisition to
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his groove back and that you know the
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the title the title alone is great
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because it makes you think of the the
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movie how stella got her groove back
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but it's it's just this really fun
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episode with you know him and he's so
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excited about being a beer creditors you
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know that the whole society so
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bureaucratic and they have numbers and
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you know you you get promoted your
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number gets lower and and i just love
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the beginning of the episode that they
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have these you know pneumatic tubes and
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he says I look it's a letter from the
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central bureaucracy and it says
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attention Hermes Conrad you're about to
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receive a letter from the central
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bureaucracy and then he gets the letter
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from the central bureaucracy eh you know
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it's just this whole thing and it's very
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it's very Brazil like in the whole this
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this whole thing comes together and I
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you know fri has an affair with the
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bureaucrat who comes to inspect the
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office and then bender finds out so to
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cover her tracks she removes benders
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brain which is in his entire personality
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fits on a three-and-a-half inch floppy
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and she puts it in the tube and it
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disappears and they have to go find it
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and it's just just this great thing
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where he goes and he has to sort this
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entire gigantic inbox master inbox pile
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in four minutes and it turns into this
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big song and dance routine he's doing
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the scar number and there's lindo wing
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and everything and it's just one of my
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favorites and and the best part is I you
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know near the end he finishes everything
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and the the number one bureaucrat who's
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number 1 point 0 something like yeah you
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know you finished you did a great job
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but you finish with two seconds to spare
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anything early so I'm demoting you
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something like that and it's just one of
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what one of my favorite as hermes is
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just such a great character and that's
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that 16 in my mind I really haven't
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explained vendor to listeners who are
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not don't know the show and maybe you
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should take a crack at what what is
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bender who is bender bender is a robot
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designed to bend girders he's like a
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manufacturing or construction robot but
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he in the very first episode he's going
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to go commit suicide with I he tries to
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get a double suicide and suicide
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telephone booth it's a suicide booth
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that shaped exactly like a telephone
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booth and fries trying to place a call
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so they are he's there to go commit
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suicide and I he and fri wind-up sort of
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intertwined and becoming good friends
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because they decide not or fri sort of
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help spender decide not to commit
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suicide and and they later on a bender
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ah electrocute is antenna on a broken
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light bulb and his programming is all
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change so he has a lot more free will
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then the other robots and he cannot he
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can be lazy and not be totally committed
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to his programming
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yeah he's the he's got a lot of the best
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taglines the show like my shiny metal
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smoke cigars alcohol is necessary to his
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proper functioning naturally so Andy
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tell me tell me sir what is one of your
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favorite episodes of futurama I gotta go
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back to something I mentioned during
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winter that others episode you're
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talking you're talking about we are
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favorite nerdy TV shows
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previously on being comfortable i love
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the God fellows episode so much hit real
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it really is one of my favorite episodes
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full stop what happens is that a bender
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gets shot into space irretrievably but
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he's leaving these leaving the
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university's just completely stranded
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and the the premises that there are like
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microbes that like circling his body and
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as has happened so often the show
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features a vendor course gets to witness
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the entire rise and fall of an entire
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new civilization as these tiny tiny
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microscopic beings go through evolution
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on his chest plate and of course they're
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worshipping Him as a god because he is
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their entire planet and he has faced and
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he can actually say okay now you're
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gonna want to grow crops and been free
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for how to bring me some beer and it and
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as is going to happen they they become
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into two different factions of society
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disagreeing on how to please bender
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bender because he's bored starts off by
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being the God but also starts off by
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being stopping the angry god saying all
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well okay I guess I can see if you're
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praying to me to save your kid okay i'll
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try to save your kid how about if i hope
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i get if i put more water here to give
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you something to give you make your
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crops flourish and of course you want
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some flooding out the entire village
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gets to see everybody died and there are
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wars on his chest and he's trying to
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stop and try to help things and finding
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himself in these increasingly futile
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situations and the Beast story
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what a wonderful b-story fri showing the
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sort of care for his friends that is a
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that is a constant for his character he
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knows that his friend is gamma rays you
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must be out there somewhere so we
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conduct this huge huge search to try to
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find bender and get him back though but
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at the end of bender story he's now it
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is the entire civilization on his honors
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on the robot or so has died out killed
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he's actually a lot sadder than you
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imagined he would be given me such a
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selfish individual and he winds up at
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the end of the universe to this sort of
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sentient cloud of whatever the fill in
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the blank and the subtext is that this
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could be this cloud is could actually be
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the god of our universe
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when do you see a show like this
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actually any show period that tries to
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tackle a spiritual topic without making
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it endlessly dreary like touched by an
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angel or any other intentionally
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uplifting or spiritual or God oriented
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show i love the early shows including
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this one they have sometimes you know
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there's there's always the A&B story
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thing like that's a traditional sitcom
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or short story on works a lot of
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different kinds of the theatre and
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television we've got a main stories the
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a story that's kind of thing you're
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supposed to be paying attention to them
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often subsidiary characters have Abby
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story if you're really lucky that could
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be a sea story with even like less going
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on and futurama sometimes that ad in
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East or either episodes i can think of
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where I'm you know also held Allah
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subway into one of my favorite episodes
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is the one in which frys all 300 big
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boys is the one in which fri decides to
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drink three hundred cups of coffee
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there's a it's a play on george w bush's
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rebate early this administration the
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Nixon who is president of course in the
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future mix-ins had had a jar he decides
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to take a show windfall from one of the
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inept captains of the dupe was that
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Brannigan that branding a voice
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originally intended to be voiced by phil
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hartman we passed away but but still
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very well for a comple done so Zapp
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Brannigan defeat some space spiders and
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take all their booty other gems
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tapestries and so Nixon issues a
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three-hundred-dollar of rebate to
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everybody and prices i'm gonna buy three
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cups of coffee and across the episode he
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does it so in that episode I love this
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because there's a romance going on
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between kids at brannigans
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second-in-command is long-suffering
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amphibian the second-in-command and a
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one and A me who's one of the
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explore express employees who's the
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daughter of the richest man think in the
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galaxy owns most of Mars and they have a
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romance brewing fries try to do
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something for Leela there's a whale
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involved everyone's got different things
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going on bend the professor uses stem
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cells to look young and falls in love
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you've got i think four or five
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different romance is going on you guys
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enjoyed trying to figure out what the
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secret of life is our happiness and at
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one point hermes has bought his son
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bamboo still boots and they get stuck on
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these boots that take them running
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through town and the whole thing is
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crazy set of different plots and it
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comes together at the end they're all in
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one place at this reception where
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they're showing off all the booty from
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the space spiders that they've stolen
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and Hermes comes in sets fire to the
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tapestry lights on fire but the windfall
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is destroyed everything is burned up
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everyone's life is in danger and fri
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drinks his 300th cup of coffee and i
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think is one of the most beautiful
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moments across all the series of the
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show where this the haha music starts
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and fri his consciousness expands and
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time slows down any very competently and
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serenely he looks out the window and
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there's a hummingbird you can see it
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swing and slowly flapping and he takes
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everybody out of the fire take small
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outside they have no idea what happened
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but I mean I I really think I don't know
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if there was a G and H and I plot in
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that and they pulled it together it was
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hilarious and it was beautiful and I
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think it's something that maybe you need
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the the lack of limitations animation to
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pull that off could you do that in and a
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series in which you had actual physical
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factors where you wouldn't this would be
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enough time to make everything happen so
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it is interesting you mentioned that
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episode was based off of
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ah the bush rebate I I hadn't really
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thought about that I find I've been
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watching these so much later and I was
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like nine when the show started
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so what are you 14 known
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Dean is a young yeah you're making us
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all feel really able to on so yeah I
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guess we never really i don't know what
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it's never come up before but I'm no
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one's rs200 that is so dependent is
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a gentleman never asks a lady never
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tells though I i I've actually been
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kinda disappointed and then the new ones
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because they rely I mean I'm so I was
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going to mention this when you were
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talking about God fellows on where
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they're making this really beautiful
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poignant I point there and it's and it's
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relevant to a lot of different things
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today and but it's not really about any
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particular on any particular instance or
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any particular thing in present day and
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I feel like the new episodes really very
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heavily rely on current things going on
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like yo wila the davinci code
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proposition infinity proposition
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infinity is a good right that mean
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that's that play on the California
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Proposition about legalizing or banning
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or in validating a same-sex marriage
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right they made that relatively quickly
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after proposition 8 right question
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finity being a outside
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that's a joke with the you know they
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don't shy from was asking David about
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this when i did the interview and said
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you know you could they seem to actually
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willing to address and engage political
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controversy because like all good
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parodies it's through the lens of
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something that's so ridiculous they can
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get away with it where maybe hitting it
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directly i would be seen as much too
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controversial for you know comedy
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programming or something besides like a
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late night stand-up comics right the
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early episodes that that approach these
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kinds of issues like a big piece of
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garbage where a a giant ball of garbage
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that at some point shortly i think it's
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like 2,000 I don't like the 2200 or
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something like that they shot all the
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garbage from New York into space and now
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in the year 3000 it's coming back and
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it's going to crush it's going to crush
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the city it crushed the world they're
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approaching that issue in in this
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ah very broad sense and you know what is
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origin to where they're having these
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gore the runner sure that's the case not
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certainly helped but I'm he's you know
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he likes they did a cartoon bit for his
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inconvenient truth there's a cartoon
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bumper that they did for it but he's
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talking about being the Emperor of Mars
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internet and it makes fun of himself
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know just like having algo around as a
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guest voice to have a sense of
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contemporary politics there's another
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issue the show I think that I'm it
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brings people back again and again as
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you know we like individual episodes
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there's ones will does we call out i
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that the detail attention they take 22
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at most times I was remembering how to
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look this up because I remember that
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from the very first episode they design
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multiple languages to be using the show
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and one is a simple substitution cipher
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alphabet is substituted with a symbol
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but there is also an alphabet that I
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reading a david cone back years ago
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talking about this they put it in there
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and they figured that people would
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freeze frame their VCRs at the time and
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then later they're dvrs and dvds and
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sort out how to decode this
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like an alphabet if I it's a wikipedia
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summation of all previous letters plus
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the current letter but i believe it also
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has code inside it so you can't just
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it's not just substitution and they also
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use other languages and there's an
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episode in which they wander in to a
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robot mitzvah and it's the in Hebrew it
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says today I am a robot of course in a
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manner because why wouldn't it be and
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why they're hosting the robots and spin
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them around but there are other details
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you'll notice when you watch the show
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you you say oh wow they're really paying
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attention to this and making this
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universe and making a consistent yeah
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like when they laid that that episode in
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which there's a body swap machine in
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which you can spot bodies with somebody
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else but only if that person had never
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been body swapped before and so hot
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hijinks ensue as well as the crew went
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up like trick each other because they
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want to do stuff and treat each other
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response let me be the one of the guys
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body and so the solution to it of course
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professor figures out a mathematical
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equation to determine how many bodies
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would how many swaps would it take to in
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to put everybody back where they belong
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involving fewer than X number of people
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who've never been spot before and
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there's the the formula that the
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calculation and the proof is on screen
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for maybe all of like a second and a
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half but it turns out that yes that is
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actually absolutely correct because one
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of the writers on that show has a
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doctorate mathematics we actually proved
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this theorem to the satisfaction of
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everybody in the writers room because
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this is the sort of show where someone
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as good as AI excuse me
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clearly you're doing arrest of some
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algorithm there when the other
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scientists and span space nuts in the
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and David Cone was getting doing a PhD
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in mathematics when he got tapped for
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the simpsons and Anna you know leave
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akadema there was a first season episode
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in which of fries gets a little bit
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homesick and when he finds out that you
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can actually take tourist flights to the
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so this is great i could actually be
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where like Apollo 11 landed and of
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course you land there finally they go
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there and it turns out to be more like
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like a disney world theme park you're on
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the moon but it's like a disney world
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version of the Moon and they wind up
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just sort of like breaking out of the
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the place actually go to the lunar
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surface and they actually come upon the
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Apollo 11 landing site and I i remember
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reading a story about this that in the
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in the episode you actually see the the
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the descent stage and the ascent stage
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both together on the on the surface of
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the Moon and of course any nerd would
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know that actually it's only the descent
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states that would be bad
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that was left there really get leaked
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the crew went back into the ascent stage
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within took off and rica and redock with
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the command module and so I remember
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reading that there's actually a
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last-minute addition was like a plaque
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that they think they have time to
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reanimate the entire thing be enough
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time to put in like a little plaque on
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the things that a sense stage were
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restored hereby by bike bike by a
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unified by generous grant from the
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nitpickers of America
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yeah I think I mean there's the other
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running element of the show is this the
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number of them of things that are so
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unpleasant beyond the pale that you're
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surprised you'd ever see them on
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television and they try to make them
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funny like bender is so incredibly
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amoral I think someone of the DVD
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commentaries that when they shot the
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episode well as other robots which is
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one of the great things in Helena those
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are the robots which was in this and 9th
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episode was the first season that's
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right introduces a robot devil is a
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terrific character occurs but later the
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robot devil spins wheel and a fourth
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season has a list of every robot on the
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show and you realize there are hundreds
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of thought out characters hundred
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thought-out robots not to mention human
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characters and aliens who appear but the
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that I think it was hellas other robots
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because there's a bit in it where Leela
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and fry get tired of bender his wrist
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experienced a religious conversion has
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now become incredibly straight-laced in
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dollars drinking mineral oil instead of
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alcohol experience and they sort of miss
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his evening pouring sand and insanity is
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a moral behavior so they
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get them off the straight and narrow and
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I think it's from the DVD commentary
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where they mentioned yeah we had a staff
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member who wouldn't work on this show
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she had moral objections to it she just
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found it you know too vile and they had
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to essentially supported her in that
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decision but I mean can you think of
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that fellow's it's like that I'm the
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number of things that are just like i
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like the robot or uh Santa Claus the
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evil Santa Claus the future suicide
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booth what do you think about the fact
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that they push the envelope on kind of
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acceptable things by wrapping them in
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yeah there's a just last week with was
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one of the new season episodes in which
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every time friday associate take my hand
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Leland some disaster happens and
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farewell to her as a little bit out
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there the last the last season she
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rescuing her off of a doomed planet to
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take my hand Leela and takes the hand
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and then rise up ripping off her arm of
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the socket and then like 10 seconds
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later his own arm gets ripped off by the
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socket as well last seen the two ripped
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up arms swirly in space with pretty
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music playing and that we do we want to
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switch is lovely
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exactly sweet lovely but yeah well let's
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talk about you really should talk about
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the new season is I'm you know one of
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the things David said interview so
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they're going to i think there's just
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asked acknowledgement and we look so we
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could talk about this bit is I thought
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season I think it's number six the 26
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episodes that were aired in 2010-2011 I
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felt they were weak compared to the
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first for broadcast seasons I I felt
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like I didn't feel that richness of
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multiple plot elements the interval i
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thought some of them with a very thin
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idea and extended and some I quite like
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there was something i thought were
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terrific like the creationism
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evolutionism a revolution parody that
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made a sort of rethink aspects of it
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when presented that light but do you
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think that as anyone think that that was
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the case of the first or do you think
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know the last two in effective season
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the 2010-2011 episodes were as strong as
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the first four I think that it's
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interesting because like you're looking
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at this show about a guy who's frozen in
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time for a thousand years and then he
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comes back to life and then the show is
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sort of stopped and comes back to life
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when fried comes back to life it's like
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this oh my god everything is you know
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look at all these wonderful things out
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here and and I have to take full
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advantage of it and in the new seasons
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I feel like they're they they're also
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trying to take full advantage of their
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there we given time I guess and trying
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to like create almost cram as much in
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there as possible i'm like it's much
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faster paced they're bringing back like
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lots and lots of characters in for even
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like small parts like Zapp Brannigan
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appears for like a minute or two in the
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latest episode here where he's on he's
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piloting this this spaceship and he's
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just kind of thrown into it all mouse
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and they they're forcing these jokes and
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making like I don't you know just kind
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of pushing things a little too far and
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maybe you know if they relaxed a little
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bit they kind of be able to i get back
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to where they were back into their
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stride a little bit ok what do you think
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John you would you be as big a fan of
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the earlier later once you have a funny
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and substantial differences between them
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yet the you know the those first four
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five seasons whatever you want to call
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I'm had a have a different feel to them
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they felt a little bit richer and and in
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some ways moments there was a lot of
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sweetness to some of them like you know
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we talked about that devil's hands are
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idle playthings and the sting and then
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one of the other ones like the look of
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the frying fish which is about the
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history of you know fri thinking that
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his brother stole his identity and in
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all things he wanted to do and you get
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these flashbacks and it's it was you
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know some really sweet stuff where you
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see like the emotion around around fri
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and that stuff seems like it's either
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missing or forced in the in that last
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season and the first to that that aired
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last week I thought the first one where
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bender has has a kid was pretty strong
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the bots and the bees and then the one
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after that that the one with the arms
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totally off into space that what kind of
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left me cold I just never really felt
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like you got going
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so it feels more like these
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the previous season then starting with
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this that they're kind of hit or miss
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and that the other ones maybe it's a
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nostalgia thing you know because they
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were so long ago already those other
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ones seem like classic and they seem
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like there's so much richness and then
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we can go back and watch them over and
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over again whereas those that last batch
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they really don't they don't feel quite
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as I mean there's still fun to watch but
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they don't feel like they're quite the
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same its kind of intermittent or you get
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some episodes that are good and some
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that are really not very memorable and I
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felt like the older ones you know
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they're there wasn't a lot of throwaway
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it's probably you know you probably have
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lots of really good ideas at the
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beginning and lots of stuff to put in
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and you get to a point where where your
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maybe forcing a little bit
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well you know it felt like I agree with
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you that I thought there was that thing
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the saying at the outset that I think
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this is has the most heart of any almost
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any show I mean you see this in some
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long-running sitcoms we're even if the
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show is sort of farcical or nonsensical
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they figure out a way to have a
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relationship or a kind of sensibility
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and friendship at the middle that makes
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it work and you know their shows like
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mash that are in other words ridiculous
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parts but it really was kind of a strong
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Center show and it's hard to think of an
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animated show that that could be
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anywhere near the silicates are a few
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that have that much are and you do the
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relationship like no one of another of
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my favorite episodes would be when I
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think i mentioned before is the devil's
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hands are idle playthings and in that
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that was a thought that might be the
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last episode as with so many times
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David Cohen said that Ken Keeler is one
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of the main writers for sho kin is
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written all of the finale episodes of
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futurama is up to four now
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corporate last episodes of the show and
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the devil's hands are idle playthings i
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think was partially intended to be the
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end of the broadcast run and there's
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this beautiful thing where you know even
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though it's sort of you know heat fries
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stupid and the whole thing is ridiculous
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is that you know he has this great love
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for Leela she doesn't always believed
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interested herself and she's not sure
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she's in love with him partly because
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he's an idiot that comes up again and
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again but probably because she's not
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sure she trusts the way the intensity of
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the sincerity realism that he
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as per business goes on over seasons and
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vendor speeds a dictionary definition
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teach in english classes but but there
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pursuing Leela but whatever i'm david
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said in an interview again that they
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were intending I mean I think there's
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because he said this season is going to
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be more like the early seasons we're
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gonna sort of go back and they'll be a
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long arc over 2012 and 2013 which is
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centered around kind of finally
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resolving the leela fri relationship and
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I don't know how that will materialize
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we've got 24 more episodes to work with
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i am going to happen will prosecute that
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22 strongly only because there's so many
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shows I can't get into because there are
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deep profound season-long arcsight I
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can't get into Game of Thrones I can't
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get into so many of the shows because i
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feel as though if I start now I've got a
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lot of work ahead of me get caught up
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and then I'm sort of obligated to watch
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the rest of them I do like the fact that
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futurama exist you can dip into almost
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any individual episode and pretty much
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get it it's true they have I mean they
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have some mythology but not the same
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kind of thing as any other show there's
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not really too much of an arc you know a
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season-long are queer fri discovers you
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know the order of human beings were all
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invented another planet but but there
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you know there are there are
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consistencies others and you know i was
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looking through wikipedia 4 episode
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descriptions they talk about
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non-canonical episode was sort of
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cracked me up because you know what is
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canonical and a cartoon universe in
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which anything can change but I mean
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there are things like nibbler the Lila's
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little istock Pat turning out to be one
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of the Masters of the Universe very much
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like the Masters on a
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ah no ah in the Green Lantern's the
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people the blue man who control the the
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safety of the university's little
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incredibly adorable creatures are in
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fact the ones who who make everything
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work in that and keep the universal
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falling apart from john i know your
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music made and what do you think about
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the music on the show I I've always
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loved it to UW noticed is that something
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that that strikes you how they use music
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as an element across the seasons
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yeah I i mean III like yeah especially
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an animated shows the music and the sort
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of musical numbers a lot of them go over
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the top like you know something like the
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Simpsons family Guy do a good job with
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it but in vitro my eye I really do like
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it you know i mention that first episode
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with the with with Hermes doing his
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little little scar song and it's funny
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that you mention and now I'm drawing a
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blank to think of other musical examples
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from the show that that I can actually
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think of any right now but you but it is
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it does seem like such a big part of the
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of the show and the devil's hands are
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idle playthings is one of the ones i
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think of the most because that there was
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almost a musical they had songs every
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few minutes culminating with with price
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opera his hollow opera for Leela right
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he learns to play the the holophone or I
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think it's not always like a recorder
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basically but it projects Holograms and
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he could only do it when he has the
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yeah that's right because he needs he
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has stupid fingers apparently no
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so you know I think we've cycled through
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quite a bit about the show what what if
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we will be missed in this program we
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were watching and obviously all of us at
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some extent for I don't know how many
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episodes of shows had no hundred and
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twenty or something we're getting up
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there between those seasons and you know
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it's something that I look forward to i
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try to watch HD episode comes out what
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would still strikes interview about you
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know why we're staying well we stick
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with the show even though it's doesn't
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have you know our episode of a series
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long plots and things like that what
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brings us back to watch this again and
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again I mean it touches on so many
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ah different things that references
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startrack references
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ah the twilight zone it's it and it's
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and it's these deep references that you
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can't you kind of need to know what's
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going on where they're referencing very
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specific twilight zone episodes or
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something like that and it touches these
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little things where like yeah I've spent
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all this time going back and and looking
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at these different shows and and and
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trying to find out more about specific
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things and you see it all reflected in
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the show where you know just because you
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understand these other these other
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things and it's kind of like oh you know
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they get it to they they are also on the
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same wavelength and they've also spent
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this time finding out about these
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different weird little corners of things
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I and appreciating them i think it's
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rich with illusion right as if you're if
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you can watch the show and everything
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seems to be no there's a reference to
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omega man there's Logan's Run there's
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that episode there's to serve man and
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then they even have the parody the show
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with it and he was the name of the
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shower now you'll notice the is it the
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the closing door the parody of twilight
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zone the scary Dory necessary to write
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like imagine the world in which there's
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a guy no week has been my balls you
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can't read the thing and you know it's
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just everything is everything is like
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that yeah I'm so Andy interrupted you
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before I'm sorry no I was just going to
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say that I think that it's the reason
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why keep watching us because they keep
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that level quality way way way way up
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they keep finding little nooks and
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crannies wish to put extra little jokes
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and they're not just clever witty
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sayings but also if there's a corner of
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the frame in which they can put in a
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keychain that's a souvenir keychain but
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Lela has from her trip to the moon
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saying i'm with stupid on the moon and
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you do have to sort of like we're
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watching on TV is it wait whether what I
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just missed your scroll back in your DVR
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in order to get the joke it's it's not
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all about just catch phrases and
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pop-culture references and it also just
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comes down to the fact
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that they have well-defined characters
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each one in that cast and they have
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never decided to weaken that that sort
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of formula never weekend that sauce they
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so this is true i think of almost every
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single said comments out there
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eventually the producers and the writers
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they get just sort of into a punch the
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clock sort of mechanism where they no
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longer understand why this line is
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appropriate for this character but this
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other character would never say it
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they don't understand what the relations
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are between these characters they're all
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just about by the final episode by the
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final season of seinfeld and friends
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these are a cast these are five
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characters who get together every once
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in a while who don't like each other but
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they only get it to the only get
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together so they can they can like
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launches fingers at each other and yeah
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you don't understand why they keep doing
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this why they keep meeting at a coffee
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shop every single day just to insult
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each other about someone are really some
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profoundly painful moments from their
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lives you know what why do I keep coming
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here publicizes comment about the show
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that way before I can't watch friends
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anymore it so it's absolutely true but
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with futurama not not every character is
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designed to have designed to be this
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really deep involved character but it is
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always about fri who profoundly cares
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about his friends
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Leela who's responsible but it's also
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kinda kinda weird herself
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hermes who's the bureaucrat who can
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figure out an analytical way to get
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the professor who was absolutely dotty
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but creative and a fantastically mad
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science way and then why not
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Evan why not zoidberg that was a burger
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mean arrived there I things I
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environment last now things are at
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everything is heading Zoidberg yeah i
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mean it that significant that's a good
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to stick the distinction why one of
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things i hate's there's such a link to a
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whole episode of why it's family guy
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because at that hour talking everybody
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trying to interrupt but one that one of
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the running one running things on the
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family guy is that everybody hates that
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the daughter Meg and they don't give
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nobody ever explains why they hate him
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later but always just nothing but hatred
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and incredibly caustic abuse order all
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Lloyd berg has that may
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grow on futurama but somehow they write
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it so cleverly they just feel like well
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he's a kind of a stupid Lobster guy who
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if you get your arm cut off one up so
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your leg back on this place is kind of
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he's always horrible smelly monster too
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and he's it's always like yeah he says
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he's a doctor but he doesn't understand
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the human anatomy and he's but what kind
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of girl are you your mouth
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no your other mom yeah their first
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appearance he's no he's trippin because
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he's a sad sack and occasionally has his
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moments of victory that's the thing is
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occasionally he comes through and where
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has no who's enjoyed bugs in charge now
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but yeah that's the out i'll tell you
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that the funny thing i think about
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futurama is my wife is not a
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science-fiction fan futurama is the only
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science fiction that she tolerates she
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loves the show we watched much of it
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lately because we don't have actual
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broadcast television anymore so we have
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to go through you know buying itunes and
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netflix and so forth to watch it more
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but but it's it's a show i think the
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characters like soy burger like the fact
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that there's so much in the show that's
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just you know they are the things that
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are conventional but it doesn't have
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that because doesn't take itself
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seriously I think that's why she enjoys
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it more so she doesn't necessarily get
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the layers of science fiction illusion
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because she didn't read sci-fi but she
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the show's fun it's interesting and they
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have characterization so it succeeds
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there yet even though I you know I love
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the major characters that some of the
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minor characters i think or what makes
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the show good because if you have if you
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have you no more both alien newscaster
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in there for a few seconds i'm talking
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about about how the earth is doomed and
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then you have his pepe sidekick you know
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laughing it off the core you know
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Calculon who is the robot soap opera
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star you know people like that and then
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of course you know you can't forget
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lower from Omicron Persei 8 out like
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those people you know they they can be
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an episode for a few minutes and they
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can kind of make they can make or break
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it for me and you know i love bender
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alone fry and Zoidberg but the little
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people mix-ins head you know and like if
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they go to the head museum and you know
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that just the stuff they can do with all
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the little side characters it it's what
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can make or break
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episode four me a lot of the time and
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that's when keep it going as if you
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throw in some of those it's it's like
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any other animated show we have all
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these little side characters and you
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know they get their moment in the Sun
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but that there's just such a weird
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creepy and bizarre characters on here
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because there are so many aliens and you
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know with it being a thousand years in
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the future you can pretty pretty much do
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anything you want
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I'm kind of like the fact that they
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don't make any default choice in the
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show it like nothing works the way that
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it should now so we know when they like
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the bungalow i love the bungalow that
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suddenly they go to Mars it turns out
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Mars and a half of Mars is a ranch owned
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by anyone's family and is you know this
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is the wrong place right that's really
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what happened it's and of course so the
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cattle people reading giant bugs sort of
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ladybug like things that are marked like
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cattle it's like nothing is certain
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studies nothing is normal it's more like
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they never take the easy choice of just
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saying okay we're going to make it a
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this is gonna be a parking meter that
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talks or there's the running gag that
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nibbler when nibbler takes a number to
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that he poops dark matter and that's
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what they used to fuel the ship and one
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of my favorite throwaway lines of as a
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prize that walking nibbler he lands a
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steamer and the police come to write
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about for a citation they say pick that
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up basis but it weighs as much as 200
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songs and this little little clever bits
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like that you know you never just
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nothing is ever quite what it seems the
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robots have robots to help them out of
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the greeting cards the greeting cards
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have a chip in them that that mom of
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moms robots can mom the evil mother
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there she cannot activate a switch and
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greeting cards along with all the other
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robots on the planet must do her bidding
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it's just that there's never was never a
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default basic easy choice made in the
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show maybe that's the theme of the show
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they don't make the easy choices
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well let's not forget the real reason we
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all watch futurama hypnotoad rear
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hypnotoad if the new I knew that was
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coming it had to be said deed is under
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his power boat is the greatest throwaway
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character that didn't get thrown away of
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all let's just let's just replay what
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just happened here one person set up a
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line the second person knew exactly what
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he was talking about
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bye-bye making a sound effect a
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third-person recognize the sound effect
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and I'm to hypnotize to speak
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oh it was it's a great fit the best part
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is on the notes of DVD extra one of the
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early season dvds is everybody where
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everyone loves hypnotoad and it's david
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described as 22 minutes of show 45
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minutes of payoff it's just tiptoed
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staring with some various dialogue and
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so for that comes we have to watch the
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whole thing only you can fast-forward
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through you missed some of the dialogue
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but the most popular show on television
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everybody loves hypnotoad but that's not
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all that's what's great about the show
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is like they can throw in the thing
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that's the most absurd thing in the
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world that you have these little
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romantic situations it it doesn't isn't
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funny you know one thing we didn't talk
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about how sort of hilarious but she'll
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like this the voice talent I mean they
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have some of the best voice talent any
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show that's ever been assembled I think
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you got Billy West whose do the original
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who are was original Stimpy and then had
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to rent after John quickly Lucy was cut
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from Ren Stimpy show John Billy West is
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done you know hundred million voices
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plus the long run the Howard Stern Show
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and he's got his own band these
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fascinating guy really naughty fell out
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but he's one of the best voice talents
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you got film are the green lantern and
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samurai Jack's voice and Trust McNeil
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who is the voice of a million million
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women on the show and on any damage so I
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think you listen to their stress
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um maybe five anybody have favorite
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voices from the show the Eagle like
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that's what I really listening for like
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frank welker or someone like that it's
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it's it's if it's one it has to be
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sapper and again but we do that all the
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dominoes will fall over like a house of
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cards it's really wet right he's doing
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exactly and again right hey guess what
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you can you're right you could totally
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hear Phil Hartman voice doing that
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it's best ship you to write to him when
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up you know it's funny to you get
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Katie's the galleries of major you know
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she's a major sitcom star and she she's
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doing one voice in the show and she's
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been involved all along Lauren Tom who
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does a lot of animation voice but she
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comes in and does a nice with anyone and
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a few other voices for it some kind of
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just a or john dimaggio so here's the
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thing you find out when you actually are
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in the room with john dimaggio the role
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of bender which you think of as absurd
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larger-than-life ridiculous thing it was
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written for john dimaggio that was not a
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joke he is bender he is the flash
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version of vendor so the episode of
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futurama in which bender is reverting to
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the term investor says I've discovered a
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way to reverse internal the process and
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what demon arrival of returns bender
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from a in this fantasy scene from a
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robot into a human that's pretty much
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what happened the other way around to
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make john dimaggio into vendor not much
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doubt there's a there's a great video on
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YouTube where this Comic Con has
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collected a bunch of voice actors from
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different TV shows including Billy West
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and John DiMaggio and I handful of other
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people and they go they have they have
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the script of the first Star Wars movie
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of episode 4 and they're going through
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descriptive episode 4 with each of the
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voice actors doing different voices and
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in each different scene they change all
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the voices so they're doing and they're
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doing the ender there don't appear right
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it's it's amazing they do fri the design
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berg they then it and it's the whole
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movie so it's like an hour and a half
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and it will just go I'll just blow your
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mind it's it's unbelievable that is
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well gentlemen I think we've reached the
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end of the time it's time to put our
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quarters on the string into the suicide
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booth and and sign off so any any final
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any parting words anyone good news
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everybody it's time to go to sleep
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I'll conclude on hulu the broadcast day
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whenever you're listening to the show by
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thank you everyone thank you Andy
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anarkali broken the curse and we've been
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on a podcast together
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longmate sale we've broken one curse and
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started a new like I got Dean it's well
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past your bedtime and i think i think
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it's time to brush your teeth thanks for
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being on the shaft thanks for having me
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pleasure i know your love for the
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hypnotoad true at all and john hope will
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be back on the copper for future
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episodes of things that are not futurama
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thanks for being with us if you have
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people and all be on again it'll it'll
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happen and thank you dear listeners tell
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us what you like about futurama in the
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comments and the speed back i'm glenn
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fleischmann thank you for listening to
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this episode of the incomparable
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