The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the Intolerable 190 december twenty well [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome back to the uncomfortable [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► podcast I'm Jason smell your host and [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► the topic today is something near and [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► dear to my heart is my favorite [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► superhero of all time [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► spider-man yeah he does whatever a [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► spider can and to talk about many [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► aspects of spidey from the comics too [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► animated shows to we can talk about that [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► crazy japanese TV show we could talk [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► about the 70 show with Nicholas Hammond [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► didn't of course we can talk about the [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► movies with both of the same Ramey [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► version and then the new version the [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► amazing spider-man which came out the [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► summer [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► joining me to talk about Spidey are two [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► people who i think are fairly expert in [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► the ways of the webhead five-by-five is [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► very own damn Benjamin is back and it's [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► great to have you here hi Dan [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► hey man thanks for having me back i like [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► this i can dark can be a gas that can [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► relax it's like the party [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► there's no stress when your guests i [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► love being a guest when you're the host [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► like oh god what do I do now but just [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► relax sit back we'll talk talk about a [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► talking about Peter Parker a little bit [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► and also joining me is an do not know [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► who else but india naka what i call on [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► in my moment of need hi Andy [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► hello Jason did you uh actually sadly [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► tragically my Uncle Ben was killed by a [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► miscreant he said before before he died [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► he said with great power comes a [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► responsibility to book Indian art Kohn [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► more podcasts so he let that's [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► interesting because two days ago I made [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► some uncle ben's rice and the box said [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► add butter be about 10 minutes before [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► it's done so that they're so uncle uncle [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► uncle has been there always just packed [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► with wisdom [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► why why were they living in that crappy [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► place in queens if he was the heir to a [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► rice fortune and I think he was on the [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► exile from you know from from very basic [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► by you based right interesting LOL most [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► grains are controlled by their media [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► Marcia had to kick him out and 17 sir [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► it's something that every time I I I go [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► to New York I'm coming from JFK and we [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► go through queens and forest hills and I [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► and I think that spider-man territory [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► it's funny how the geography of New York [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► for me in so many ways is is to find not [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► just by marvel comics because they would [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► set you know unlike DC which has [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► metropolis to Gotham City and things [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► like that he's a fictional city [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► he's the new york city stars in the [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► Marvel Comics and for me it was always [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► spider-man and so to this day I will see [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► things other than a few places where [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► like how that's in ghostbusters right [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► but mostly it's it's spider-man it's all [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► the various bridges that horrible things [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► have happened on and in spider-man lower [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► and and even even going to queens it's [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► like how does he get to the city from [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► all the way out here in Queens [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► I try to think about the geography is [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► like is to jump on the back of a subway [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► does he [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► I I don't even know well of course this [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► is calls to mind a legendary a Peter [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► Parker at the peter david issue of I [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► believe Peter Parker the spectacular [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► spider-man which he has discovered that [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► the first the person who's chasing is [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► actually hold up in a New York suburb [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► and so he has to basically do exactly [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► there no tall buildings to like web [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► swing by there eat essentially has to [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► like wet himself to the back of like [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► buses [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► yeah the d train that's why I'm taking a [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► a pedestrian spider-man is not exactly [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► the most movie movie oriented a visual [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► history get you want him to get there as [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► fast as to the big buildings as fast as [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► possible [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► what's going on in Brooklyn these days [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► maybe he'll be a around Brooklyn more [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► now let's say that the let's see that's [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► the other thing to like because that you [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► because Marvel uses like real New York [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► locations they always try to put him in [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► well he's broke all the time so let's [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► put them into all the low-rent district [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► of new york but that's kind of like a [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► map like the trendiest places imaginable [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► to go up because one of those hip [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► Chelsea apartments know but 1973 that [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► was a really bad place to live i was [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► taxi driver neighborhood but you know [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► it's interesting Jason because you [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► mention you know Marvel always picks the [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► relocations in DC dozen so that I just I [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► just shown I just seen this Dark Knight [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► Rises which we're not talking about and [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► I have come to understand [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► yeah can I haven't seen yet we will why [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► shall I was showing you know my kid just [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► turned five he's not old enough to watch [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► that movie again he seen the first three [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► the tobey maguire spider-man despite the [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► fact that he was not old enough to watch [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► those either sir but definitely not [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► enough for dark knight rises but he [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► really he a for his birthday one of the [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► things he got was the bat he got a bat [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► wing that goes with this Batcave set [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► thing that he had and and so I said well [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► you know there's some really cool like [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► bat wings they don't call the batwing [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► they call the bat in this movie there's [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► animal ruining and you've seen this in [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► previous but there's couple cool scenes [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► that I want to show them this [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► so show them this and and then he [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► recalled that I have met Batman I don't [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► know if you guys know this but there was [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► an awesome comic con year ago and i went [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► to it and there was a man who was to [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► come [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► I mean I'm talking the full suit i mean [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► the d the real deal [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► this was the dark knight suit full-on [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► and he was just tall australian dude I [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► said listen my kid doesn't believe me [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► that I no man can I get a picture with [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► you so I had on my buddy take a picture [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► me Maurice I think took it and sent and [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► I sent that to to my kid [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► long story short he immediately was a oh [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► my god i got the coolest dad in a world [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► he knows bad it really does know Batman [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► yeah so ever since then like it once in [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► a while bringing up and he said cool [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► where does where does Batman let loose [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► in gotham aces well where's Gotham is [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► Gotham real like he's knows Batman [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► thrilled but he's not sure about java [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► and and and so you know he knows [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► spider-man lives in New York knows I've [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► been in New York so why didn't I meet [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► spider-man was it's an interesting [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► decision right to have that real [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► geography instead of that someone [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► fiction metropolis their arguments about [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► where metropolis is and-and-and Gotham [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► and what is its central city where the [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► flashes and cola right coast city and [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► they're all kind of like these you know [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► slightly rewritten versions of cities [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► but it's like it's a parallel universe [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► and marvels trick was always to just say [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► that you know this is this is real Peter [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► Parker lives and in queens you know it [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► you know this is part of downtown in [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► manhattan and and there is no Empire [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► State University though sadly my [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► application was rejected to State on [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► account of the fact that it doesn't [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► actually exist its and I guess nyu I [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► don't know but um that but Peter Parker [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► went there so let's talk about the movie [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► first just because it's it's new this is [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► the andrew garfield reboot which is this [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► is a topic of its own because do we need [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► to reboot ten years after the last time [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► we told this story and and that is a [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► frustration for me the fact that they [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► decided not just to keep making [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► spider-man movie that's great spider-man [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► 3 was really bad some it was time to [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► change the creative team I think [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► to tell the same story again I remember [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► being really upset that they were going [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► to you know tell the the origin story [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► again because I feel like how many [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► origin stories do we need to see about [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► how many times can you tell the same [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► story and and what's interesting about [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► these characters isn't their origin [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► right it'sit's all the things that come [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► after the origin the origin is like one [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► issue of a comic book and then you move [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► on and yet they they went back and they [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► told the story again and it's a [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► different take [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► I wonder what you guys think I mean in [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► watching it again a few weeks ago when [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► it came out on video [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► my take on it cause I saw in the theater [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► was that this was very much like a [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► modern ultimate spider-man kind of [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► retelling whereas the sam raimi movie [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► from a decade ago felt like it was [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► really honoring the sixties original [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► kind of steve ditko Stanley version of [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► spider-man i felt like i was really [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► watching the that was that was very much [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► kind of honoring the past and this one [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► was happy to try to make it much more [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► updated they were thinking you know but [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► they just going into this and we we [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► talked about this a little bit before [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► the show there were things that I had [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► heard about about this movie that [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► concern me i was i thought well like [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► that they had sort of changed the the [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► the concept of Peter Parker's that [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► what's his first name do we know it [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► doesn't matter is Richard I think okay [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► so they had sort of changed his the [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► backstory on this a little bit to me [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► I mean do we need to mention that you [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► need to see this movie before you listen [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► to rest it was funny will fire off the [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► spoiler horn that's a good idea [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► I mean it had this point if they don't [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► know that they're in trouble [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► you're listening to a show it's a hot [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► portal that merited so you know here's [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► here's the issue of that I have with [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► this is they wrote it now [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► originally you don't really need for a [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► long time you don't really know the mom [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► and dad Parker you don't really know [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► that you don't need to know you know [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► been you know MA in your Peter and [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► that's good and the other way back in [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► the past it's not relevant right and in [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► this story that they added the whole [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► concept of well they you know his dad [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► was the scientist and he was doing [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► things with spiders and is it didn't die [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► by accident right yeah and I didn't know [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► that like I was very apprehensive as you [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► know I was a little nervous as a little [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► i had to lay down as the scares her but [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► it went it was alright it wound up being [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► alright i thought it was gonna like that [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► part but I did really didn't it didn't [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► it didn't do much to bother me [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► that's a story straight out of brian [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► michael bendis ultimate spider-man which [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► i should say is my favorite comic [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► basically in the last 10-15 years and it [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► it you know about a hundred fifty issues [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► to tell the whole story then they had a [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► it came to a conclusion and now that [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► they're doing something different with a [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► different character but yeah but that [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► was part of the story and I always [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► thought that was really interesting it [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► was it was like let's take what we know [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► about spider-man and then kind of retail [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► it in this more modern way and that was [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► one of the plot points was that the [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► Peters parents dying was was part of the [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► story and it is Norman Osborn and [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► research into various kinds of things [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► that these shadowy companies are doing [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► and that and that there was more to it [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► than that and and they did that in this [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► movie too and yeah I didn't let it [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► bother me either i thought i was going [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► to be questionable bored by just like oh [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► you have great power great [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► responsibility they don't even say that [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► in the movie don't even say it now what [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► did you think about them not saying it [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► don't they have to say it's so hokey [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► though it's so smoky sixties I mean I [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► love it and yet it's it's to have [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► regular human beings say it out loud son [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► with great power comes great [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► responsibility it so it just feels you [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► know is that so that I think that I [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► think that's a little bit cynical that's [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► something they're a little okay because [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► I think I think of every single great [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► moving line from every great moment [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► every every great movie i mean [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► casablanca you know our two part of the [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► problem with two people don't amount to [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► a hill of beans the student that's not a [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► really really naturalistic sort of piece [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► of language but breadstick to you and if [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► you were there if you're there in the [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► scene in that actual location you could [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► sense that communication between Uncle [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► Ben and Peter through gesture through [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► movement through the way they interact [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► with each other but you don't have that [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► available to you so a great writer and [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► Stanley is a great writer comes up the [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► line like with great power Sun comes [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► great responsibility and also it allows [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► its it's this is like a musical theme [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► that in the soundtrack of Peter Parker's [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► life time and time and time again that [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► every time he wants to be taken back to [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► his greatest failure and the thing that [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► will haunt him and motivated for the [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► rest of his life [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► this one absolutely locked in your brain [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► phrase has to be revoked and that [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► instantly brings all of that together [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► and that's actually why i didn't i [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► didn't like this development i didn't [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► like it and the two other times I find [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► where at where it turns out that there's [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► a there's a there's a dark secret to to [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► Peter Parker's parents being kept from [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► Peter Parker we so saw that movie of [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► course we saw an ultimate ultimate [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► spider-man later on when Marvel writers [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► seem to have run out of things to do [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► with this character they actually made [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► Peter Parker's parents spies and their [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► killed off because they're actually [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► supermarket spies and this is something [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► that I just never I it's it's it's a [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► tricky thing i don't like it because [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► it's in elegant I don't like the fact [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► that it's difficult to create civilians [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► inside a superhero universe that i like [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► the idea that he is a normal kid in a [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► normal life he had this piece of tragedy [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► that so many of the people who are [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► paying their ten cents to buy that comic [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► in the sixties through the through the [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► nineties have had where my lost I never [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► really knew my parents they died when I [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► was really really young I have felt as [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► though i don't really have my own [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► identity and then when you say all [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► actually your parents were SuperDuper [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► Spiner special that's kinda removes that [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► touchstone that makes it gives that [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► extra emotional have now in terms of the [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► well citing thank you very much a bit in [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► terms of the movie I don't like it just [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► because [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► simply because now this isn't the story [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► about Peter Parker and spider-man [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► this is the story about Oscorp this is [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► the story about this district research [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► being done [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► oh and by the way incidentally in the [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► course of evolving this story this is [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► kid gets Spider Man's power yoga but [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► he's just one of several people who gets [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► panel powers because this planet but [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► really really want to know about this [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► Oscorp that's the feather that's the [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► thing that that brought us through fit [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► through 40 years of continuity as [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► restoring her yet and well but i think i [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► think it's an issue of emphasis though [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► we're in bandar TSA's ultimate [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► spider-man over the course of again a [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► hundred and fifty issues that it becomes [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► a part of the story but it's not the [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► whole point of the story and there's [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► several things an amazing spider-man [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► that I felt like you know it's forced [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► because they only have two hours to tell [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► their story or two and a half hours or [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► three hours or whatever it seemed kinda [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► long over long but in in Venice itself [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► somehow felt more natural they weren't [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► the solution to the entire story right [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► it was an added little quirk that they [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► might have been involved in some of this [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► and and you know what about you a clone [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► of his father comes back and it's not [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► really following whatever but it felt a [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► little more natural because it was not [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► shoehorned into the first five issues [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► right it was something that was kinda [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► dropped 50 issues down the road and and [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► that's I mean there's a lot of stuff in [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► this movie that feels like they just [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► they cut corners because they need to [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► jam it all into a single movie and movie [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► storytelling is very different from [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► long-form comic book story telling in [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► the way that you know the original comic [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► was was done or the way that bends told [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► ultimate spider-man sofa if you felt [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► much less kind of offensive to me coming [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► from Bendis than it did in this movie I [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► didn't even mind it so much only because [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► it was different and I was really [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► dreading more than anything [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► another faithful retelling of Leanne [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► Ditko because they already made that [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► movie they made that movie like nine [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► years ago it was not at larger to 11 [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► years ago was not very long ago so I [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► wanted to see something different and it [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► was different [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► i'll give it that for sure but but two [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► points there [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► why do they feel as though they need to [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► completely reboot the franchise they [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► could simply recast the character and [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► find new things for spider-man to do [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► there's so many great stories libraries [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► assuming this is my [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► retail the origin is rather than that [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► Peter Parker in some ways is more more [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► interesting when he's new to the role as [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► a kid in school and that in I i was i [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► was really love that an ultimate [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► spider-man he's in school he's in high [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► school the entire run he never graduated [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► from high school or anything like that [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► and with tobey maguire who was already [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► like 30 women started right they had to [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► get him out of there as quickly as they [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► could write i think in in in this one in [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► the Andrew Garfield one they wanted to [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► go back to that he's a kid in school [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► thing so that's the reason but you're [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► right did they even then did they really [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► need to do anything but have like an [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► origin in the opening montage and then [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► just tell stories let me put it this way [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► we never as far as I can recall we have [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► never ever ever heard James Bond origin [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► story we have never there's never been a [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► movie in which we hear about here is [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► worried what he was doing before he [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► became a secret agent [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► there there it's in the books was never [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► the movie the movies just simply say I [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► see my guy he's James Bond he's a spy [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► and we often run where you come from [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► who knows and it would migrate I think I [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► superhero movies in general over to the [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► origin story thing you know and it and [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► it infuriates me because it's not [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► necessary right i mean it's not the most [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► interesting story for the most of these [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► characters is there anybody on this [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► planet who does not know who Superman is [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► at this point you can just put it a shot [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► one Scene one of the movie is Superman [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► in the red and blues in the Cape [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► fighting and we're on our cat catching [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► somebody who's fallen off a building I [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► mean you know and that's okay i don't [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► know if we're ready to did I mean [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► Jason's your show but I don't know if [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► you're ready to dive into this point but [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► I I there there I have issues I have [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► issues with with spider-man in this [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► movie i guess i gotta say guys i like [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► this movie I liked it a lot [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► really enjoyed it but but but i gotta [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► have some problem let me before before [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► we go into the problems i want i want to [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► mention something happens very early in [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► this movie that and I this movie is [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► really flawed and I did like it and I [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► think the reason I like it is because it [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► got me on its side very early on and [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► it's a a single scene that I felt [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► encapsulated the character better than [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► any of the samurai movies were really [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► any other filmed spider-man or animated [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► right the 60 spider-man always that was [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► that was some work i'm tired of all [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► these teenagers right that was me i ee i [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► watch that show when I was a kid jenna [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► jameson really hate teenagers anyway and [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► there's no daily bugle or Jameson in [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► this movie either which is interesting [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► no wait a minute that masonry straight [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► yeah there was a Daily Bugle always [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► there Daily Bugle just you know if you [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► remember when they are showing the news [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► on TV there is a little bugle and it is [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► underneath Daily Bugle where the CNN [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► logo might have been not so it's in the [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► world but if we haven't seen it in [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► quarters and part of it [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► ok so anyway the scene that gets me on [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► its side is in the in the lien deco you [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► know he's a Wimpy click kid with glasses [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► correct and he gets beat up and and or [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► or you know taunted and biomass Thompson [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► yeah and I'm the jocks and he's a he's a [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► pencil-neck geek and then he gets these [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► powers and and we know that story right [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► and he BN his his uncle dies and he [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► feels really bad with great power comes [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► great responsibility and decides to be a [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► hero [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► what I really liked about the scene [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► early in this movie is he gets he gets [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► bullied by flash and then flashes out in [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► the quad and there's another kid that's [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► getting bullied right and and Peter [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► Parker and he's like hey Parker take a [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► picture of this and he says put him down [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► flash end and then flash basically beats [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► the crap out of Peter because peter is [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► not playing along with flash being a [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► bully to somebody else like the shoes on [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► the other foot [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► Peter could play along it would be easy [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► or you could walk away but it was [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► something about that scene the decency [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► of Peter Parker as a human being i [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► really liked how they did that because [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► what they said is this is a person he [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► doesn't have power [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► he's a weakling but he's a fundamentally [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► decent human being who understands right [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► and wrong but he doesn't have it the [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► ability to do anything but he's brave [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► enough to stand up to the bully he just [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► get the crap beat out of him and I [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► really like that because i felt like [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► that was Peter Parker that said [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► something like they they got the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► character that is that is the kind of [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► person who would end up following this [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► arc and becoming spider-man he's heroic [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► but doesn't have the powers and that [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► made up for a lot of things like why [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► gwen stacy is somehow running or [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► research lab for us corp when she's a [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► high school student and all of these [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► other bizarre connections that are kind [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► of pointless just because I felt like [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► I'm not on a purely kind of character [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► level they got him right and it was that [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► scene so that scene heard a lot of [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► goodwill for me i don't know if that if [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► it did for you guys but Tony it was like [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► they got him that that is the best Peter [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► Parker scene I've ever seen [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► no I mean that i totally agree that for [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► me you know the one of the things that [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► that made that movie I mean obviously [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► we're talking about superheroes it's not [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► gonna be like completely real but that [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► felt like a real city in a lot of ways [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► of felt more like a real scene to me the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► idea of Peter Parker being sort of [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► universally bullied universally not [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► fitting in universally you know just as [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► you said pencil-neck geek you know like [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► that's that story was kind of I felt [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► like that was old and I like what I [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► liked about the retelling of this one [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► was that you know what you what you have [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► here is somebody who you know maybe he [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► doesn't exactly fit in maybe because [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► he's a bit smarter maybe because he's a [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► bit a different anyway but it you know [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► it's not like he's ugly it's not like he [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► can't communicate and can't you know [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► coexist with the other members of [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► society no I mean he's he's relatively [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► like a cool kid you know he knows how to [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► dress in that sort of ground has a [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► skateboard high as escape or like you [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► know and that wraps it up right and yeah [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► and there's and there's one guy one guy [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► who who is kind of a bully universally [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► who happens to pick on him most of the [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► time and that's a little bit more like [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► what I remember high school junior high [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► beam island is like a computer nerd he's [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► got a skateboard and he's just wants to [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► do his own thing and he's not part of [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► the popular jock crowd [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► yeah yeah but it's not like it's not [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► it's not like everybody beats him me and [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► you don't have a pocket protector and [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► flash sorry about that i don't know [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► which is very 67 needed that with the [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► classic story and what you think [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► well i don't i don't think that was a [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► bad scene at all I thought was but that [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► was good it deserves the purposes of you [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► explain so well um I i wonder if it [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► couldn't if the story could have been a [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► bit more powerful if they would let [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► let that a little bit more ambiguous I [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► think it's fascinating when you're [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► writing stories about superheroes when [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► you're talking about here is it here you [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► go kid [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► you now have superpowers what are you [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► gonna do with them [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► how is it going to change your life was [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► gonna change how you interact with [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► people here's how it's gonna change how [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► you resolve problems that you're going [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► to have in your wife and I don't like i [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► said i don't think that scene where he's [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► interviewing with a bully is it makes it [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► is a bad scene but it would have been [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► more into it when it does it says always [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► Peter Parker was always heroic now these [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► not easy [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► he's a hero who can actually actually [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► have influence over other people [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► it's more interesting when he might be a [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► little bit more interesting depending on [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► how you would write that scene if you [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► said that he was a little bit weak he [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► did not he would be you didn't give him [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► a specific instance to prove who he was [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► when confronted with that kind of danger [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► when you put them in a situation where [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► now he feels so he can do something [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► how is he going to do with but i was [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► gonna deal with it is he going to say [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► well it's not my job to get into other [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► people's fights I'd not been fully [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► enough that day I have two people have [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► to figure out their own solutions of [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► that or they gonna simply really going [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► to simply say I've got the super period [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► superpowers in my back pocket to use [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► them if i'm going to use them but right [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► now I feel as though I can intervene [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► without having to twist somebody's head [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► off like a like a like a champagne cork [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► I'd I just think that it's it's it's a [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► plug that something that I that is often [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► something that I don't like about the [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► way that a lot of comics are written dan [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► and I my own podcast we're talking about [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► the Marvel now Roe a version of the [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► Fantastic Four where each the fantastic [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► four names a replacement for the that's [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► gonna be substituted for them for the [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► four minutes they think they're going to [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► be away while they're off exploring [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► other dimensions and so Johnny Storm [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► being about being a gold-plated idiot [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► basically says each of these dating [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► paris hilton so it's okay well guess [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► what Paracelsus that would be take my [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► place on the team and so they did that [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► the issue comes out tomorrow we find out [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► exactly how that happens but pouring the [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► cover art that we've seen so far [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► essentially she wears one of like Ben [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► grams old like thing exoskeletons back [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► when he was deep powered [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► unlike the mid hundreds issues of [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► Fantastic Four and that sort of i [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► haven't read this issue i don't know how [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► they're doing it but it just gets my it [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► gets some expectations very very low [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► because it's like a man so what you're [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► saying is that all you gotta do is put a [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► supersuit on somebody and suddenly they [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► act heroically no that's not how it [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► works [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► it's there is a horrible horrible [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► horrible horrible incident that just [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► came to mind that i'm sure a lot of a [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► service sadly familiar with where a man [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► tried to break up with him and try to [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► break up a fight on New York subway [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► platform that pushed onto the tracks a [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► drainage came by and nobody helped them [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► as he was trying to get out of there one [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► person decided to take a picture that is [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► the demonstration of what people when [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► i'm not saying that all these hundred [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► people are idiots [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► I'm saying that you don't know there are [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► times when you don't know what to do in [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► that circumstance and there are people [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► who have done the right thing in that [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► circumstance that later on would say I [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► don't deserve any praise for this [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► the next thing I knew I was jumping down [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► there and shoving them into the alcove [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► and hoping that I don't get run over [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► either it wasn't a conscious decision [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► that i made i just think that that by [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► putting in that little bit that little [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► bit of a scene it might have diminished [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► the the the gravity of Peter Parker's [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► decision to act in heroic manner once he [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► gave got superpowers that's all it's [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► it's a different take and I I think I [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► sense throughout this movie that they [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► were trying to take that different path [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► that the fact that Uncle Ben doesn't say [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► the words with great power comes great [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► responsibility that would that Peter is [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► shown as having this fundamental decency [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► upfront that his confrontation that [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► leads to Uncle Ben's death is it you [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► know it's less kind of offensive it's [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► more just like he gets pissed off at a [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► jerk at the convenience store and so he [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► he doesn't you know hehe it's not it's [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► not quite as bad as the saria i'm going [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► to look out for number one and that [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► means me it's just a little more [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► pedestrian right [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► in fact a little more every day of like [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► you just said something you just like go [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► by that you probably shouldn't and it [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► comes back together but it looks like [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► they felt like they took a different [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► path and and I guess everybody can [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► decide which kind of spider-man story [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► they like the best i love the fact that [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► they said hey you know what Peter Parker [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► was always a stand-up guy he just [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► couldn't do anything about it he just [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► was a weakling [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► and he had a decency that would serve [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► him well later when he got the power to [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► do something about it i like that anyway [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► we should probably talk about some other [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► stuff dance you want to do you want to [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► detail all the things that drove me nuts [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► now I mean okay we have time [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► alright so here's a free yeah well we [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► got time actually got time I want you [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► got a fresh fresh fresh reel-to-reel up [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► there we've got at least two hours in a [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► borrowed yeah so I'll get upgrade that [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► equipment and I mean it was ok nothing [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► watching the network right now it's [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► really embarrassing if that well I'll [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► get right on so that I I don't really [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► know where to start let's start let's [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► start with the fact that when he gets [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► his powers let's start right there when [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► you get the hours alright so here's the [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► experience he has on the trains on the [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► subway train [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► he's sort of have fallen asleep in the [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► in the in the subway in the car and he [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► he'd uh somebody's trying to what are [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► they trying to steal some magic [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► skateboard still a skateboard which I [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► just get bored you see because you know [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► super valuable thing to steal from [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► someone and he winds up sort of getting [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► his hands get stuck to the pole because [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► he's now got the super grippy can't [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► control it and the heat accidentally [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► knocking people out with this poll which [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► he pops right out of the thing and [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► that's fine [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► that was cute i like that that was fine [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► and then somebody breaks a skateboard or [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► does his skateboard over his arm which [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► he holds up the block himself now if you [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► remember the first time that that Tobey [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► Maguire's Peter Parker realized that he [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► had these sort of fast reflexes and [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► things like that you have this quite [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► comic it all would be yeah I'm up on [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► away web right and this was so I was so [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► glad that this did not take that [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► approach i was so glad that you didn't [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► have the Flash Thompson slow-motion fist [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► which he's like kind of walking around [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► looking up underneath and all that [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► ridiculous this was much better sort of [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► discovery of his powers and of and I [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► mean on the one hand I didn't think he [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► was weirded out enough even when he was [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► breaking things in the bathroom but let [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► me let's let's just go forward here for [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► a second [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► how does he start exploring his powers [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► now listen he has comic books in this [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► alternate world that he's in ok or DC DC [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► comics DC Comics exist so it let me just [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► leave it okay [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► if I will if I have this happen to me on [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► a subway the first thing I'm gonna do is [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► be like why the heck am I so strong [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► right now and I'm gonna walk to a place [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► where no one can see me and I'm gonna [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► start lifting stuff and I'm going to see [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► exactly how strong and I am can lift [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► that rock in the back you know because [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► we have this rock in the backyard that I [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► can i oh I'm gonna have to budget i have [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► to hire someone to move this thing [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► because it's not where we wanted to be [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► i'm just going to can't lift that can [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► lift in you know I think if you just if [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► you started doing this a hundred [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► push-ups thing you're going to maybe i [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► can lift maybe i can move that chair [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► without you know that big that big lazy [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► boys I'm probably just move that [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► everyone I'm gonna the first thing I'm [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► gonna do is see how strong I am I and [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► you know what why did my hand stick to [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► that thing [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► what else can i do can I climb can i let [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► what else can I stick to my hand I'm [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► gonna figure this thing out what he do [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► he goes me skateboards around and does a [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► little parkour is that always say it [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► come on man do something climb the wall [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► I want to see what i can do first of all [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► the second is now he goes on this [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► vendetta thing where he's trying to find [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► the guy that eventually is trying to [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► find the guy that killed his uncle right [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► right so he's running around town [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► looking which he never does which is [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► another diversion right never done he [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► gets over it instead but here you go [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► here's another thing I'm just stopped me [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► for that if I you know if you need a [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► break it then he goes he's chasing this [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► guy now okay so one point he finds this [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► guy and then his his druggies for lack [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► of a better term start chasing after him [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► and he's up he's got five or six of [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► these guys now hold on a second [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► flashback to him unintentionally kicking [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► the crap out of like eight people on a [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► subway car and easily flicking people [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► around and he's running from like four [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► or five guys come on now listen in the [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► comic books in the comic books he's [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► quite strong [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► he's quite strong now I don't know how [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► whether this is the ultimate spider-man [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► strong or whether this is the Marvel [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► Universe traditional strong but either [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► way like spider-man can at least move if [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► not pick up a car he might not be it [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► might not be easy yeah it might be like [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► are gonna fling a car around fine but [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► he's strong i mean the dude strong you [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► know he has two for those who don't [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► follow this closely he has to pull his [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► punches completely so that he doesn't [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► seriously injured but come just kill [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► kill people in regular human beings if [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► he doesn't pull a punch your dad and [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► you're so dead and yet he's running away [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► from five guys chasing after him and it [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► did it was just inconsistent the way [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► that they portrayed strength [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► he's in the bathroom they're just using [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► a little you know little like first [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► finger and the thumb and boom pops off [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► the knob if you can pop off a knob from [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► a sync with your two fingers i'm not i'm [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► not running away from a couple guys with [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► a knife if I have super fast reflexes [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► and can fling up and down on the wall [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► like I'm not going anywhere [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► you guys are going to leave you know [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► what I'm saying and I just all of these [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► things it really bother why did he have [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► to be so hard dr. really rude joke right [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► now but that's how inexperienced to you [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► stand right that's he doesn't even he's [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► not even thinking straight it wasn't [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► about inexperienced he blocked he [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► blocked the skateboard on the bus with [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► his natural instinctive movements [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► because he's a spider now so this is [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► natural reflexes are going to protect [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► him [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► where was his spider sense in this movie [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► where was his spider sense [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► yo go there was always has a spider [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► sense because like there's a spider in a [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► bug walking around near but like warned [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► him that someone's gonna hit you that [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► was not coming to okay in the Marvel [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► Universe it has been stated hang on our [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► I'm upset I i can tell that this is the [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► voice of a man in pain this is just one [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► thing guys find it amazing that the the [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► proportional strength differences upset [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► you more than the fact that a high [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► school student is leading a lab midterm [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► been at did you add you see the [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► photograph that I sent to you guys each [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► in the india in the skype window if you [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► look at that photograph oh no i haven't [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► if you have that if you're able to [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► access please load think I'm seeing it [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► right now it is a flickr link we can put [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► this into the show notes I'm for in this [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► picture and whom I sitting with it i'm [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► in a mall in the shower spider-man I'm [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► sitting with nishan neshaminy mall i'm [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► sitting with spiderman spiderman as I [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► love Batman don't get me wrong when I [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► played superheroes I was Batman by love [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► spider-man [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► so this continues for the classic tights [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► costume yes the filmmakers have had a [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► struggle to try and make it look cooler [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► yes then this will all will get to the [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► costume in a minute [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► and-and-and so and i'm not going to take [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► over your show all stopped because I [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► know people are about to turn it off but [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► here's the thing is it where's his [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► spider sense in this [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► where's his regular spider strengthen [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► this isn't there spider-sense I get the [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► sense that they have a couple of scenes [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► where there's a where he has a [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► realization and they do one of those [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► kind of fries and turn around doing a [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► little but it has been said in the [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► Marvel Universe that but even even the [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► fastest and most super-powered super [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► folks in the Marvel Universe have [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► trouble hitting spider-man because of [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► his spider sense even if he's [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► unconscious [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► his body will make him dodge it Andy [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► correct me if I'm wrong on this and [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► again am i right about the I not sure if [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► you're right about him being unconscious [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► maybe not about it but I think it does [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► have a spidey sense as as as well as has [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► been attacked by tadpoles and see this [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► is another thing in this book that I [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► read to my kid there's this one with the [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► vulture it's AG and I know it's for [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► four-year-olds but in the voltage the [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► vulture catches him by surprise at every [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► time I read this page i wanted i don't [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► wanna I don't want my kids to grow up [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► thinking that he could be taken [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► advantage of by the vulture sneak attack [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► because he's on silent magnetic wings [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► like come on [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► oh it's that he's not going to get [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► attack he spider-man he's got despite I [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► can't kill a spider can you know I could [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► want to kill spiders spiders i can kill [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► us but I can't do it from they get out [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► of we're using a moral thing because i [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► also have no moral compunction again [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► skipper no i'm talking about you tried [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► maybe you got different spiders but here [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► in taxes they're fast you gotta Chuck [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► you gotta Chuck a lot of things in them [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► together so you you don't like the [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► spider-man is a is his power seem [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► inconsistent well as they become spotted [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► yes because here's the thing there's [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► learning and mastering your powers and [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► there's having them and if all of a [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► sudden I could lift a car that might not [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► mean I know how to aim the car when I [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► throw it or my a might not be great or [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► something but like I've i can lift a car [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► i'm gonna feel pretty confident walking [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► down that back alley at night so you [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► know I wonder if some of this I I see [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► what you're saying [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► although i'm in the chatroom they're [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► saying that the the subway scene is sort [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► of suggesting spider-sense throughout [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► but I I see what you're saying [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► I wonder if so does it suggest where did [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► go the rest of the movie awesome i [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► suggest that you're helping out in the [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► brain and your Lego first time outside [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► normal fitness the senior that seemed [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► totally does indicate spider-sense why [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► don't we see it again for the restaurant [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► again right thank you [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► I i wonder if the filmmakers decided in [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► this sort of Jesus we just did this [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► movie ten years ago to take some of that [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► stuff out right which may not have been [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► the right decision somebody else in the [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► chatroom pointed out what you want less [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► origin and more of that lizard story of [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► a fair point right fair point but I do [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► wonder if they were like yeah I do we [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► really need lots of scenes where he [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► enjoys learning about his powers when we [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► are telling an origin story that people [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► just saw 10 years ago [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► no I don't give me more that's all you [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► want i want to let you know I don't need [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► a lot more I don't need a lot more but [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► just give me some more [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► I don't enjoy the the crafting of the of [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► the web shooters identify was that was [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► gonna be there to me if you give him [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► organic web shooters you don't get it [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► because I bye but when the best parts of [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► the kind of the craftsmanship of this [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► character take that Sam Raimi there you [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► go [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► yeah you again I mean it's because it's [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► this is a Peter Parker's a fusion of the [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► power she got from the accident the [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► morals that he grew up with that he [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► described himself and also the fact that [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► he is please notice he's a super [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► scientist but oh my God he's a very very [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► clever young man and so it's I've always [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► loved the pre the the fusion between he [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► got these powers from from the [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► radioactive spider bite then he had to [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► go go but goes home go to his house and [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► figure out how to build this sort of [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► thing and I also always dug the idea [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► that he could that it could become a [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► problem that oh I'm out of fluid I i was [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► i was supposed to fix that makes them [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► more yesterday but I got back I i stayed [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► out late my date with maryjane o [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► baguette friend one of the best one of [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► the nice things about ultimate [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► spider-man is that that various points [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► he runs out of web fluid and he runs up [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► costumes [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► that's because his costumes get shredded [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► right so you end up in situations where [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► he has no spider pants and i love that [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► because it's like this kid doesn't [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► really know what he's doing and that's [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► that's a nice thing about the character [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► is that he's teased he doesn't have it [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► all together he's a kid he's making as [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► it goes along and also and also get [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► gamepak2 what [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► we talked about earlier it takes it [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► takes a great deal to voluntarily get [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► hit even if you even if you know that [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► you that you can take that this person [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► is swinging your face is not going to do [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► much damage to you [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► it takes a lot to put yourself in that [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► situation we're willing to get it right [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► so I think I i think that we're here we [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► are just having talked about how we [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► really wish there wasn't an orange [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► origin story if you really wanted to [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► prosecute that make that an interesting [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► way to tell talk about this person's [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► origin it's not about the spider bite is [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► by figuring out that [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► oh actually it's okay for me to get hit [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► in the face or it's okay okay for me to [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► put myself in this dangerous situation [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► because there's a limit to how badly can [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► get hurt but also the than that other [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► thing that makes spider-man so good is [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► that he's not like he's not like the [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► Hulk is not like she hulk where you know [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► she's the she-hulk is to me a very [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► boring character because it's been [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► demonstrated with a pet specialty the [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► past 10 years that nothing can possibly [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► hurt her and when Dan Slott took over [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► and i love dance lot but he didn't [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► because one of the things I didn't like [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► about when he was doing the she-hulk run [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► is that established now she has a [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► healing factor you can be basically [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► stabbed her through the chest you found [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► the one thing in the universe that can [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► actually hurt her and just as long as [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► you remove it should be okay in about 30 [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► seconds no problem there [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► Peter Parker he gets bruised he gets cut [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► if you shoot him if that if that bullet [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► if he can touch on the way if that ball [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► hit hard [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► Peter Parker he'd be dead and the fact [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► that he's yeses and i know i totally [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► agree that's a really great point but [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► that's also consistent with the comments [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► to you know he gets shot in the [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► competition he shied I i agree that I [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► think the movie will have put a lot on [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► its plate that if that at some point [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► later window down the feature set of [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► this movie saying oh yeah we can either [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► yet it's like trying to figure out [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► exactly how much fuel to take on a trip [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► to the moon it's like okay but if you if [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► you want to take on this piece of [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► equipment we're gonna have to take on [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► less fuel which means that we can't we [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► can't stay out for quite such much time [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► what you want to do next [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► they should have said ok if you really [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► want to make this a story about Oscorp [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► in science that means you're going to [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► cut back on his origin story because we [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► don't have enough there is enough [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► bandwidth in the audience to to keep [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► track of all these sort of things [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► similarly if you can say well we really [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► we know that he has it in every single [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► incarnations character as a spidey sense [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► we cannot figure out a way to [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► economically communicate that to the [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► audience when he's fighting so let's [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► just say either was just not use that in [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► this story at best we'll say that oh [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► well he has the spider sense but he [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► hasn't figured out he's really figured [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► that out yet in the next week in the [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► next in the next movie we'll figure out [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► the spider-sense so I really but one [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► thing for the record I when I think I'm [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► saying after listening to you guys [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► explain this is that really like Peter [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► Parker maybe not so much spider-man in [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► this movie like I felt like he wasn't [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► you know I'm saying like oh yeah i know [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► this is this is I think that's accurate [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► because I mean when he takes he's got to [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► talk to captain Stacy when he's been you [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► know been wounded is on the ground and [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► says I gotta go you gotta let me go [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► she's at the tower and all of that yes [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► you know the it's yeah it's Pete its [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► this kid trying to figure out to be so [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► this is not like mr. professional [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► spider-man right this is amateur kid [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► trying to become spider-man yeah and ona [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► Andy to your point the one that they [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► kept in that they should have completely [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► edited out is the whole there's the [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► whole subplot where there's like a [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► lizard gasps the turns pure and [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► delicious [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► yeah and that exists seems to exist only [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► so that he can have the antidote up on [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► top of the tower and I there are lots of [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► things like that and the fact that Gwen [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► coincidentally works with dr. Conners [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► and all these all these interconnected [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► things and and then there's the whole [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► like our story arc set up about Norman [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► Osborn needs his vaccine because he's [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► dying and there's the executive from [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► Moss Corp and all that stuff is [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► completely unnecessary and extraneous I [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► felt as though there there's the [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► Christopher Nolan style superhero movie [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► in which you set the which the director [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► filmmaker sets the bar really really [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► high in which we're going to take we're [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► gonna take nothing for granted we're not [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► we're gonna take nothin for free [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► we're gonna make a wix incredibly well [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► thought-out and polished movie and then [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► there's the Avengers style movie which [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► can be just as entertaining but it's [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► like nope we're gonna have action flash [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► noises great special effects just seen [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► scene of keeping the keep the energy up [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► and then of course when the lights come [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► back up again you realize what that [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► didn't make any sense all this point [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► they do this this made no such thing to [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► do that one either [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► well who cares i had some popcorn had [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► time for for two-and-a-half hours [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► despite the spider-man movie is one of [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► those types of movies really I feel like [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► I feel like it's got more you know and [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► we can we and have disagreed about the [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► Avengers but but i will agree with you [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► this that there's that there's the [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► spectacle part which is fights and [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► explosions and stuff like that and and [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► if technical stuff and well-handled what [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► I like about amazing spider-man that [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► pushes it over the top for me is that [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► when you get outside those moments you [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► do have some either nice or interesting [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► or funny character moments right you [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► know the the stuff with this where he [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► goes to Gwen Stacy's apartment and the [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► dinner the super awkward dinner with [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► Denis Leary and limonite what dinner [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► with Dennis there would be awkward but I [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► mean that's a great great casting yeah [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► it's probably gonna be George Stacy and [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► and so Peter what did that guy is a that [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► guy's a freak he's a he's a he's a [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► vigilante is outside the law and and [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► it's just I love that stuff and like I [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► said the stuff where Peter is shown to [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► be decent and also when he's kind of [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► like confused and doesn't really know [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► what the heck he's doing [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► I and when he learns about being that [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► he's obsessed with the guy who killed [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► Uncle Ben I mean all those things that [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► those were nice moment so i got i got [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► some sort of like I got the junk food [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► part and I got some other nice kind of [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► funny and and and good character stuff [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► and for a bit you know for a summer [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► blockbuster superhero movie that's not [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► that's not bad that may not be the [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► apotheosis of of of superhero movies but [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► that's that's not bad to get a little [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► bit of both of those things and not just [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► the junk food if that makes sense that's [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► a good way to say yeah i mean the AI [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► think it's just the difference between [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► the movie that you that sticks with you [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► for four years afterward and the kind [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► where your you leave the theater and [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► it's behind responsible guy I believe it [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► or not I'd completely forgotten that the [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► spider-man but there's a new spider-man [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► movie this year until you know this this [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► topic for this show came out even though [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► you can't give you that you could you [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► can't escape all the ads for a whereas i [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► mean it's it's it it's it's great [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► dessert it's a great snack food is just [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► not something that really sticks with [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► and I think that it's those kind of [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► decisions that the filmmaker makes [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► yeah although i'll say that that scene [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► where Peter stands up for the person [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► who's getting beat up and and actually [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► got really awkward dinner and a few [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► other scenes in this movie we'll stick [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► with me I don't feel like you know [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► spider-man 2 I feel and and the original [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► but but spider-man 2 was a movie that [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► hung together i think really well and is [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► one of my top superhero movies and this [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► isn't this isn't necessarily in that [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► class but I i think you know but it [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► worked it worked for me and like I said [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► a lot of it was getting that character [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► in that place early on that let me [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► accept some of the ridiculous plot and [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► circumstance that happened later because [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► I i got like the characters journey was [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► more important to me than the ridiculous [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► connections of the plot and thatthat's [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► if you don't make that connection then [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► you have nothing to go on and you're [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► just staring at the plot saying why [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► would this makes no sense but if you're [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► rooting for the this kid then the movies [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► gonna work a lot better just from just [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► because you're on his side and so like a [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► you know like this at the beginning I [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► feel like that's that for me and I can't [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► maybe if thats it doesn't work for you [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► it's not gonna work the movies not gonna [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► work the same way but for me it was like [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► so perfect decision to get me on his [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► side that fast because then that excuse [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► a whole lot of sins and there were well [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► I want to send anything like this way [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► wouldn't have wouldn't have been [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► interesting if he had he saw that and [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► his money his main thought was that I'm [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► just glad I'm not glad this person is [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► being bullied but i'm glad that i can [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► get my class on time it's not like that [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► i'm saying more of a practical thing [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► where I really thought that I was going [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► to be five minutes late and bleeding by [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► the time I got to math class [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► I'm glad I'm just you know glad that I'm [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► I'm not getting hassled today and that [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► you see that's this kid has changed his [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► attitude where we was being mean before [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► but he may be looks back on his past [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► things think I really wish there had [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► been someone to interviewing intervene [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► for me every time that I had been i I've [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► been writing that sure now that I mean [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► that would be a different story i guess [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► for me i liked I liked it was a way i [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► had not follow the character before in [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► thinking that he didn't get his bravery [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► because he got powers [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► yeah right you see him stand up to flash [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► when he is impervious and can beat the [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► crap out of flash you seen that in [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► various retellings and I like [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► here that he said no no he stands up the [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► flash even when he's gonna get he knows [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► he's gonna get beaten down by him [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► because he's a decent person and that [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► was a different take [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► and i like that take because it wasn't [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► what I'd seen before but it you know [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► that would be a different choice to go [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► the way that you it's just be which [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► would be interesting because it would be [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► it would have been have resonance with [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► that whole I'm looking out for number [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► one kind of thing that was from the Lee [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► and Ditko story of like you know who [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► it's not me I'm gonna walk on by and [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► then regretting that later there's [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► there's a fundamental aspect of [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► storytelling and that is changes as part [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► of life that you are the sum total of [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► your your experiences in the past that [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► dictates how you react to new [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► experiences in the future and that if [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► you're the same person today as you were [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► five years ago then congrats so glad you [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► came out of that coma serve didn't think [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► you'd live hands it so i love when a [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► comic uses takes an opportunity to [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► really underscored those kind of markers [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► to say that mean that Peter Parker is a [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► different person at age 24 h 23 then he [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► was a teenager he would have been a [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► different person 24 even if he had not [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► been bitten by a radioactive spider and [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► that a it [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► I'm sorry I'm sorry that everything i [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► say he's come back to an unkind comment [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► about fantastic for the past lessons and [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► that's why it's so interesting to me [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► that you have the in fantastic four of [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► these four people that were two of them [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► are absolute tourists you know you have [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► this disc this good this woman who he'd [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► sort of dabbled in modeling dabbled in [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► this really didn't have any focus you [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► have this kid who is just two idiot jerk [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► from like from day one and they had to [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► really change who they were by the [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► virtue of the fact that now we have [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► these powers and now we're being thrown [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► into these situations and so when you [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► when the different fantastic four riders [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► try to establish oh no Sue Storm she was [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► a 1 choose a hero even before then she [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► was a strong independent dominant person [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► who gets what she wants and goes and get [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► your no no that's okay so you have since [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► essentially robbed her of that part of [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► the journey by saying that now she's the [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► same person she was before only now she [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► can become invisible so that that so [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► that's so I I that comes back to I don't [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► diss [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► agree with you that strong seen I just [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► my tears mortoon towards why would an [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► opportunity that would have been to say [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► this is the process he's going through [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► the Pat over the next 2-3 years now that [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► he has superpowers he will he would be [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► he will be different person start to [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► finish but how [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► however how we gonna compare him to who [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► he was at the start the start of the [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► movie it's it's it's interesting when [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► you start off his character that we [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► don't really like or that we ourselves [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► might ignore making oh my god this guy [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► is such a was he didn't even like wanted [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► like throw a rock at this guy to may be [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► distracted wow he just had the easiest [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► one day was and then thinking well but [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► finding out that he has learned to get [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► the get a bit of a backbone and it's not [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► the sort of arrogance well now that I'm [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► invulnerable now I can do what I want is [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► that you know what I really wish that [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► somebody who would add any opportunity [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► to do anything had intervene for me any [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► the hundred times when I really needed a [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► hero come by so I'm looking forward to [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► reading indian tacos new run on the the [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► adjective inserted here spider-man [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► beginning that email address again is a [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► knocko @ gmail.com supermarket letter [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► that's right just let it can be and get [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► in touch [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► I'm the bed Marvel was doing some it's [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► an interesting time to be a fan of [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► spider-man we have we have spider-man [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► number 700 coming out which is promises [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► lots of changes and then there's day [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► they are shutting down [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► yeah until they start back up again [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► amazing spider-man with number seven [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► hundred and they're starting a new [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► spider-man title which I I think they're [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► hinting is not going to have Peter [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► Parker as spider-man and this is another [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► point where Moises says that Dan's going [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► to be a Hulk rage out but bear with me [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► here because in all of the spider-man we [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► also had a storyline which led to [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► another character becoming spider-man [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► and so this the you know where we had a [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► little bit and there there was the [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► spider-man 2099 was an alternate [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► spider-man right but generally keyword [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► alternate spider-men but this is their [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► plan with Peter Parker and spider-man [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► here in ways that they haven't before [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► and I think it's sort of strange timing [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► that they're doing this and I don't [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► really understand it i will say that i [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► think the ultimate spider-man with Miles [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► Morales who is the new ultimate [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► spider-man despite all of my feelings [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► like that was a giant mistake and [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► was Miss marketed and all these all [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► these problems I had with it has turned [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► out to actually be a really good story [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► despite all of that so it's like the [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► people you know when you get past the PR [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► and go back to actually an interesting [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► story the story's pretty good even if [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► the pr was really annoying but this 700 [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► amazing spider-man and then the big [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► mystery about what happens to spider-man [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► after that it's like I i had that moment [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► of like why do you keep so why are you [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► screwing around with Peter Parker they [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► already did the one more day fan where [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► they notified the video with the devil [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► that nullifies the the wedding and all [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► of those i gotta keep it in continuity [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► lot of things we got to keep it in [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► continuity but we'll just have a magic [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► spell the changes all the communities [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► that are usually continuity [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► oh my guys so i sold it right right so [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► why did they messing with I mean I feel [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► like you're messing up messing up a good [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► thing when they mess around the state [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► not necessarily i like I too was like oh [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► boy I was really really worried when the [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► more the more Marvel hype something in [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► advance the more worried i get about it [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► because I think they're batting maybe 04 [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► a hundred in how they pay off what they [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► promised to be doing in a big event and [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► dan slott whom I again absolutely love [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► music is one of those names were and [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► instantly interested in any comic that [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► he's writing wrote one cup what wrote [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► one guy I have a co-author credit with [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► him on one Marvel comic instantly so [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► he's a colleague and we work together [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► no it's the lamest credit whatsoever [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► that story for the day but I'd so he was [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► typing typing typing issue 698r that was [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► that was the ornery spider-man number [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► was red sticky comics and stories by [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► locate the indigestible spider-man [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► number one but the I thought they did [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► something really interesting with are we [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► doing spoilers are we not doing spoilers [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► for this am doing yesterday [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► weatherzone yeah the UH the in advance [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► we knew that all who is spider-man like [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► Oh guys are gonna be another one where [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► they figure out that well people don't [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► really care about Peter Parker what they [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► care about is the costume so if we put [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► another person in the costume [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► oh boy i'll still love that which is why [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► Miles Morales I really couldn't I it's a [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► fine story but it's like okay why bother [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► making spider-man [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► I don't care about a different person as [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► spider-man following Peter Parker so by [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► doing this story very very cleverly [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► written 698 where it sounds yeah i was [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► i'm reading the story and thinking oh [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► I'm so glad to see the Peter Parker [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► finally is like losing his like [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► self-deprecating you know self-defense [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► attitude [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► hey I'm doing great work for the [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► scientists and that as a scientist and [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► you know what I'm gonna start things up [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► with Mary Jane I don't know why I'm not [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► doing this and I'm an Avenger is that [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► wonderful and adventure is a great Peter [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► Parker's having some pride that we find [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► out that no actually dr. body swap or [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► could i maybe something that involved [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► because the doctor octopus putting his [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► his brain his thoughts his personality [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► and everything and taking don't don't [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► dad don't try to get exactly on it I [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► think thanks but yes he copied his [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► personality but the memories of pickles [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► right and and however that were resident [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► 699 then you know that now peter [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► parker's owner has a time yes [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► dhaka stock smell and including his date [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► with and thanks [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► yeah thatthat's I i think that that's [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► I'm relieved and now intrigue and what [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► he's going to do with that because what [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► I don't like is these things were a if [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► I'm have a question if with the one more [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► day thing if you're having a [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► conversation with somebody and they ask [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► you why did this happen expected the [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► answer oh well II see Peter Parker did [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► this deal with the devil but no the [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► answer is well some editor decided that [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► he wanted Peter Parker to not be married [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► anymore and so not really caring how [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► they did this so long as they did it [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► they did it the most lame way possible [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► because it whenever there's what I feel [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► ok so Peter Parker is going to be [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► they're gonna kill Peter Parker and [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► someone else could have to take on the [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► mantle of Peter Parker and so fast for [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► three years from now when nobody [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► remembers that Peter Parker was dead [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► not even Peter Parker because they [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► reversed in such a lame stupid way it [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► was a waste of time to get that to sell [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► comics in November of 2012 [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► this is an interesting thing that [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► doesn't validate was gone before [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► promises to be an interesting dilemma [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► for Peter to be in and I you can make [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► too much about what I'm about to say I [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► hope I articulate this correctly when [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► you get to the end of this story line it [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► doesn't create something that has to be [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► ignored for the next five years like [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► wednesday michael Straczynski decided [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► that Peter Parker is actually is [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► morphing into an actual spider dies it's [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► a totem an exact yes it seemed had then [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► I knew that Peter Parker after turning [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► into a horrible spider creature dies a [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► new Peter Parker cry crawls out of that [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► husk of that preacher that Peter Parker [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► was and now there's that again there's [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► this business meeting in which the story [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► conference like everybody had their [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► donuts great everybody have coffee great [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► ok we not we all know what we're gonna [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► have to say let's just all stay at the [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► same time [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► 123 the thing with the spider house [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► never happened good around the same yeah [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► let's never speak of this ever again [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► i I just don't like those things which [TS]