Cortex 63: Flower Garden


00:00:00   did you buy an iMac Pro why do you ask

00:00:03   like I just want to know I did buy an

00:00:05   iMac Pro hey isn't it right now no I'm

00:00:08   not

00:00:09   oh I'm not using it right now do you

00:00:11   have it I do have it okay it's a

00:00:14   complicated story Mike have you ever

00:00:17   used it I can't that way you would put

00:00:20   it cuz I assume you're at home right now

00:00:23   I mean you never know where I am when

00:00:25   I'm recording like I never really know

00:00:27   where you are that is true I am often

00:00:30   surprised wherever you are we have a

00:00:32   topic that will lead into this in some

00:00:35   sense but now I do have an iMac Pro I

00:00:37   have used the iMac Pro I am in London

00:00:41   recording with you but I am not

00:00:44   currently using that I Mac Pro so it is

00:00:47   it is elsewhere at this moment do you

00:00:49   like pretty great okay pretty great okay

00:00:53   it is nice to have a computer that's

00:00:57   super fast and it's also nice too

00:01:02   because when we were in that valley of

00:01:04   darkness with Apple for a while I had

00:01:06   this feeling of like Oh Apple let me

00:01:08   just throw some money at you so I can

00:01:10   get a faster computer like just you name

00:01:12   a number and I'll write you a check

00:01:14   Apple I just need a faster computer and

00:01:15   it is nice that now with the iMac Pro in

00:01:19   a way Apple has called the bluff unlike

00:01:21   just write a check because it's like

00:01:22   Apple can ask for a check that I am not

00:01:25   willing to write you know it's it's

00:01:27   really nice that there exists a computer

00:01:29   where you have to make decisions about

00:01:31   like what is it that you actually want

00:01:33   out of this machine because it means

00:01:35   that the theoretical maximum computing

00:01:38   threshold is beyond you it's not where

00:01:42   you currently are right now like I

00:01:44   really hated that feeling of I have the

00:01:47   fastest computer there's no faster

00:01:48   computer that I can possibly buy and

00:01:50   it's not fast enough so yeah my pro is

00:01:53   is very fast there are some crazy

00:01:56   configurations out there that make it

00:01:58   super expensive I did not go for the

00:02:01   super crazy expensive

00:02:03   I might pro configurations but I got a

00:02:06   good one and it is very impressive I

00:02:10   really like it and of course

00:02:13   when you get a new computer how do you

00:02:15   test it out well you gotta load up a

00:02:18   game and see how the game plays and so

00:02:20   of course as soon as the computer was

00:02:23   set up the very first thing that I put

00:02:26   on it was American Truck Simulator so I

00:02:29   could get a real sense of how was how

00:02:31   did it run did it run good

00:02:33   it was beautiful Mike oh yeah this it

00:02:36   was absolutely beautiful so I was just

00:02:38   thinking about like what do you what do

00:02:40   you use it for I like what what is your

00:02:42   use for such a powerful machine and I

00:02:44   was gonna make a joke about like what

00:02:47   are you some kind of pro video producer

00:02:49   having completely forgot that you make

00:02:51   youtube videos was like what do you need

00:02:55   it for you just edit podcasts what are

00:02:58   you and you don't even do all the

00:02:59   editing though what do you need it for

00:03:01   seriously I was gonna make a joke about

00:03:04   you being mkbhd or something making

00:03:06   YouTube videos turns out you do make

00:03:09   youtube videos so I understand what you

00:03:11   might want it because I assign oh that

00:03:13   like a lot of the stuff that you're

00:03:15   doing video you can always throw more

00:03:17   power at it right and I I would assume

00:03:19   that's why one of the reasons you bought

00:03:21   the machine was because it can just make

00:03:23   your video process a lot nicer because

00:03:25   it turns out you do make those YouTube

00:03:26   videos yeah I do I do make youtube

00:03:29   videos there are a number of it's easy

00:03:31   it's easy to forget I mean there are so

00:03:33   many things that I do Mike yeah yeah my

00:03:36   professional biography is long very long

00:03:38   includes very many full of projects of

00:03:41   secret and public nature yeah many

00:03:44   things but faster computer is great and

00:03:48   with YouTube videos and with lots of

00:03:50   other stuff the the increased power

00:03:52   makes a real difference even for things

00:03:55   just like if I'm making the the YouTube

00:03:58   videos for podcasts that are being

00:04:00   uploaded like you're uploading a two and

00:04:02   a half hour video like exporting that

00:04:05   kind of thing takes a long time it takes

00:04:06   a very long time

00:04:07   I am always surprised at one how long it

00:04:11   is and to how big the files are when

00:04:13   it's just like a static image and two

00:04:16   hours of audio it's like oh here's here

00:04:20   is a nine gigabyte file oh uh final cut

00:04:24   what are you doing but I guess yeah

00:04:25   that's it is what is what

00:04:27   it is right yeah it is it is what it is

00:04:30   but I've got to say it's it's really

00:04:33   it's really impressive machine and it

00:04:35   does for an American Truck Simulator

00:04:36   pretty great on there I put on a little

00:04:39   steam overlay to see how many frames per

00:04:41   second I was getting and it was very

00:04:42   impressive but on a on a more practical

00:04:44   level I loaded up one of the one of the

00:04:48   files I've made reference to a few times

00:04:50   on the show like these multi terabyte

00:04:51   Final Cut Pro projects that I have and

00:04:56   the thing that I wanted to so Final Cut

00:04:58   has this feature where it does

00:05:00   background rendering when you open up a

00:05:02   project and that is always a thing that

00:05:05   takes absolutely forever but Final Cut

00:05:08   has been updated to take advantage of

00:05:10   multi-core machines and so I uploaded

00:05:13   the biggest final cut project I could

00:05:15   find on my computer and I just wanted to

00:05:17   see how it handled it and it was just

00:05:20   astounding to see these multiple cores

00:05:23   just tear through the background

00:05:25   rendering like it was nothing

00:05:27   whoa this is this is really impressive

00:05:31   and it is one of these cases where the

00:05:33   machine makes you very aware of what

00:05:36   programs take advantage of multiple

00:05:39   cores and what programs do not take

00:05:41   advantage of multiple cores because the

00:05:43   things that have been written to take

00:05:44   advantage of multiple cores it's just

00:05:47   it's such an incredible increase in

00:05:49   speed that it's it's really just

00:05:52   fantastic so I love the machine it is

00:05:55   great I'm glad that Apple has made a

00:05:57   like a real top-end computer again so

00:06:00   I'm I'm really pleased with it and it

00:06:02   comes in space grey mm-hmm it looks

00:06:04   great looks looks great no more stupid

00:06:07   aluminum well he's still aluminum or

00:06:10   aluminium yeah yeah for that the

00:06:12   aluminum color wash I can't believe I

00:06:14   said that it's like you spend too much

00:06:17   time podcasting Americans yeah I presume

00:06:24   that you are not going to get one of the

00:06:26   iMac pros I don't need it I don't I

00:06:28   don't need it and I don't particularly

00:06:30   want it it's more computer than I

00:06:34   require for what I'm doing it would make

00:06:37   some things quicker but honestly I don't

00:06:39   do a lot

00:06:40   that stuff very often like noise removal

00:06:44   and they're like some of the most

00:06:46   intensive tasks that you can do in audio

00:06:47   editing is like doing something to

00:06:49   improve the quality of the audio but by

00:06:52   and large the majority of people that I

00:06:54   record with are in stable environments

00:06:57   that don't really require a lot of work

00:06:59   to be done to them so honestly I'm good

00:07:03   and all of my wait time my workflow is

00:07:06   pretty optimized at this point so that

00:07:08   if I'm waiting for something to export

00:07:10   I'm doing something else I cannot

00:07:12   twiddling my thumb's I've got um you

00:07:15   know I published so many podcasts now

00:07:17   that I have my routine and I'm never

00:07:21   sitting I'm waiting for my iMac to do

00:07:23   something yeah so the iMac Pro doesn't

00:07:26   make sense to me I am personally holding

00:07:29   out to see whatever the Mac Pro looks

00:07:31   like the the purpose of buying a machine

00:07:36   that will last me 10 years if the Mac

00:07:39   Pro is as modular as I hope it's going

00:07:42   to be that it will truly be able to

00:07:44   replace and upgrade parts over a long

00:07:46   period of time if that seems like that

00:07:48   is a possibility that maybe the next

00:07:50   machine that I buy

00:07:52   I'm just less interested in exciting

00:07:56   Mac's now right like Mike of like five

00:07:59   years ago probably would have bought the

00:08:01   iMac Pro because it's the newest and

00:08:03   most exciting Mac I don't really have

00:08:05   that feeling anymore it's you know

00:08:07   obviously the iOS is where my excitement

00:08:09   is so I am keen to own a machine that I

00:08:13   can upgrade over a long period of time

00:08:17   for a smaller amount of money than

00:08:19   buying a new computer every three years

00:08:21   to try and keep up with the latest and

00:08:23   greatest so that that's kind of where my

00:08:25   attention is a little bit more now as

00:08:27   exceeding what the Mac Pro looks like

00:08:29   but I have no I have no desire need to

00:08:33   do anything about my Mac setup right now

00:08:37   because I have an iMac 5k which I've had

00:08:39   for like maybe I eighteen months or

00:08:41   something like that and it feels as fast

00:08:45   to me as today I bought it like I have

00:08:46   no problem with this machine this

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00:10:52   want to know where the I might pro is

00:10:54   and this this gets us this gets us

00:10:57   straight to the heart of the first topic

00:11:00   that I wanted to talk about I'm kind of

00:11:02   chose I wanted to give a little bit of

00:11:05   an update on the year

00:11:07   of order and how that's going you need

00:11:10   to put more I feel like I need to add a

00:11:12   sound effect every time you say it like

00:11:15   no clack or like you know like modulate

00:11:19   the voice a little bit just leave it

00:11:21   just like I've no need for that I think

00:11:24   I think people can hear like the capital

00:11:26   o in order I think that I think that

00:11:28   comes across they can hear that in their

00:11:29   mouth there's no need for it of course

00:11:31   there's no need for it

00:11:33   you know yeah so so I haven't I have an

00:11:39   idea with the show this year to check in

00:11:43   a little bit more regularly about what's

00:11:45   going on with the year of order and that

00:11:48   partly because I was really aware last

00:11:50   year that we didn't touch in very often

00:11:53   on what was going with the year of

00:11:54   redirection slash chaos and that was

00:11:58   partly because a lot of the things that

00:11:59   were going on there it didn't make sense

00:12:00   to talk about on the podcast chaos I

00:12:02   mean how do you check in on chaos yeah

00:12:04   and that was the other thing it was

00:12:06   chaos it would have been very hard at

00:12:08   any particular point to have a

00:12:10   meaningful conversation about what was

00:12:12   going on during that because there's

00:12:13   like it just was just less structured

00:12:15   but the year of order that lends itself

00:12:17   to that yeah I think we spent more time

00:12:19   talking about my year theme right

00:12:21   because yeah there was stuff going on

00:12:24   like hiring people yeah it made more

00:12:26   sense handing over tasks right there

00:12:28   were things that I could kind of point

00:12:30   to as a thing to make a difference in my

00:12:32   year where yours was a little bit more

00:12:34   ad hoc I think yeah it was going yeah

00:12:36   without a doubt

00:12:37   and so I so so I like the idea of

00:12:40   checking in more regularly I also like

00:12:41   the idea that to go along with the theme

00:12:43   itself knowing that we'll check in

00:12:45   regularly on the podcast is a kind of

00:12:47   structure and structures belong in the

00:12:49   year of order would you say a structure

00:12:52   is kind of like a schedule it's kind of

00:12:55   like a schedule but schedules are a

00:12:58   different sort of thing Mike I don't

00:12:59   like schedule is like structure

00:13:01   structure I like shed structure teen

00:13:04   these are good things

00:13:06   routine schedules deadlines know thumbs

00:13:11   down routine yes it's a highly different

00:13:14   like I like jus dates no deadlines

00:13:19   yeah it's subtle you know there's like

00:13:22   it's like a subtle difference of flavor

00:13:24   but it's there you know and it when

00:13:25   you're really highly attuned to these

00:13:27   sorts of things so so here's an idea for

00:13:30   this this first check-in which is I have

00:13:35   I have this real feeling like the year

00:13:36   of order is going to be a very big

00:13:39   intensive long project because there's a

00:13:41   lot of stuff that I want to do and I'm

00:13:44   already sort of breaking it down and the

00:13:47   first the first part of this that I

00:13:51   realized works out really well in in the

00:13:53   beginning of the year for a bunch of

00:13:56   things is the idea of setting up my

00:14:01   physical space that there's a lot when I

00:14:06   think about like how do I work what are

00:14:08   the environments in which I work that

00:14:10   over the last year again we're sort of

00:14:12   thrown into chaos for a variety of

00:14:14   reasons and because of because of a

00:14:21   bunch of my thoughts about like the ways

00:14:22   people work or how people can work

00:14:24   effectively I really think that the

00:14:27   environment in which you work is this

00:14:30   real foundation upon which everything

00:14:35   else rests and so here I mean the

00:14:37   physical environment that you are in so

00:14:41   I've decided that this is as the winter

00:14:44   season draws to a close this is my my

00:14:47   focus like before winter ends I want to

00:14:50   have redone the physical spaces in which

00:14:54   I work so this is this is like project

00:14:57   one for the year of order and it happens

00:15:00   to work out well that this is the first

00:15:01   thing that I want to do because while

00:15:02   ultimately I want to be really back into

00:15:05   a like a solid working routine there's

00:15:08   still some stuff in my life right now

00:15:10   that's like leftover from the previous

00:15:12   year of redirects and slash chaos that's

00:15:14   going to be with me for a while so it's

00:15:16   like I can't start on the really heavy

00:15:18   routine stuff just yet so I'm going to

00:15:20   be working on this foundational part as

00:15:23   at the beginning so which physical space

00:15:26   are we talking which of your many

00:15:28   offices are we talking about here

00:15:32   or all of them okay Mike I have a

00:15:34   diagram for you I'm gonna sell you a

00:15:36   little diagram take a look at okay okay

00:15:38   oh my this is very messy yeah just to be

00:15:44   clear and I'm happy to put this in the

00:15:47   show notes just yesterday I was having a

00:15:51   multiple flights in the same day day

00:15:54   which is always great what many more

00:15:57   travel racking up those airline miles

00:15:58   you know keep my golden ticket just as

00:16:07   fun so while I was on the flight I was

00:16:09   trying to I was trying to use that time

00:16:11   well cuz like airplane timers is a

00:16:13   strange time and one of the things that

00:16:16   I do find is useful to do with that time

00:16:19   is thinking about stuff on a like a

00:16:21   higher level or just brainstorming or

00:16:24   doing those sorts of things so what I

00:16:26   did was I brought my iPad with me on the

00:16:28   trip and opened up good old good notes

00:16:30   and what I decided to do was a thing

00:16:34   that I had mentioned I think related to

00:16:36   one of the ask cortex questions last

00:16:37   time which was I started to draw out

00:16:42   what are the different devices in my

00:16:44   life and what do I want to use them for

00:16:47   and then this this ended up becoming

00:16:49   much more along the ideas of okay how am

00:16:53   I going to set up the physical spaces in

00:16:57   my life so there's there's two things in

00:17:00   this in this very messy diagram but I

00:17:02   have the idea of there are some devices

00:17:06   so it's like I have my iPhone I have the

00:17:10   new iMac Pro I have a laptop I have

00:17:13   iPads like I have machines like what are

00:17:16   what are each of these machines for and

00:17:18   then also trying to overlap that with

00:17:21   the idea of I have different physical

00:17:25   spaces in which I can be which devices

00:17:28   belong where right which devices go

00:17:32   where so the the main thing here is I

00:17:36   feel like there's three spaces I have a

00:17:39   home office which is where I am right

00:17:42   now in my apartment I have the glass

00:17:45   cube

00:17:46   that we have discussed previously which

00:17:48   is in a separate building from where I

00:17:50   am now and then I think of it doesn't

00:17:54   quite make sense maybe to people but I

00:17:56   do think of my phone as a kind of

00:18:01   omnipresent space that that this is a

00:18:04   device and a space that is just with me

00:18:07   all of the time wherever I am so it has

00:18:10   it has like overlap with other areas so

00:18:13   this is this is the division like

00:18:15   thinking about how is my phone going to

00:18:17   work and then thinking about what is

00:18:20   going to happen in my home office what

00:18:23   is going to happen in the glass cube and

00:18:26   then also in the in and because I was on

00:18:29   a plane thinking about since my travel

00:18:32   does not seem to be decreasing over the

00:18:34   next year thinking a little bit about

00:18:37   what does my mobile working space look

00:18:41   like and trying to draw out what devices

00:18:44   do what where how does this diagram look

00:18:48   to you Mike I have a lot of questions

00:18:49   about this diagram okay why don't you

00:18:52   start with some questions because

00:18:54   otherwise I will just talk forever in a

00:18:56   vague way so let me know what is

00:18:58   confusing to you about this diagram yeah

00:19:00   I want to go down from the top so we

00:19:02   have the phone morning and afternoon are

00:19:05   they the same device just wanted to stop

00:19:07   a check they paid to different devices

00:19:08   yes I have one phone one phone using my

00:19:11   iPhone okay but I made I made a little

00:19:15   division about the device is different

00:19:17   in the morning and it's different in the

00:19:20   afternoon about what what should it do

00:19:23   or what should I be doing right device

00:19:25   at these times but there isn't anything

00:19:27   that you're doing to really restrict

00:19:29   what the device does right because you

00:19:31   kind of can't do that this is more of a

00:19:33   mental thing there's two parts here it

00:19:35   is a bit of a mental thing because

00:19:37   Apple's notification system is terrible

00:19:40   and is not very good compared to the

00:19:43   competition but there is a physical

00:19:44   thing that is happening that I'm still

00:19:46   using the system we've discussed before

00:19:47   where I have two different Apple watches

00:19:49   and this is my way that's what the s2

00:19:52   and the s3 is that's that's Mike that

00:19:54   was my next question

00:19:55   yeah as Apple watch series two and apple

00:19:57   watch series three okay

00:19:59   correct that you can you can with two

00:20:01   watches kind of fake door trick the

00:20:06   iPhone into having different sorts of

00:20:08   behaviors because you can turn on

00:20:09   different notifications for different

00:20:11   applications on each watch independently

00:20:14   right right that that's correct so the

00:20:16   idea is in the morning with my series to

00:20:20   watch the only kinds of notifications

00:20:22   that we'll get through our notifications

00:20:24   from myself to myself so these are

00:20:29   things like I have started a timer and I

00:20:31   want a notification about when that

00:20:32   timer ends or if there's a calendar

00:20:35   event that I put on the calendar

00:20:36   previously that I will have forgotten

00:20:37   about in that morning or things like

00:20:40   alerts from task managers right those

00:20:42   are the only sorts of things that should

00:20:45   get through the device through my phone

00:20:49   in the morning and the only way I can do

00:20:51   it is to say that the phone is totally

00:20:54   silent the phone does no notifications

00:20:56   but the series to watch is configured to

00:20:59   just allow notifications from those

00:21:03   three classes of device okay and then I

00:21:07   can see the afternoon is when you allow

00:21:10   people to contact you you've got

00:21:12   iMessage and slack but still no email

00:21:16   outgoing email only is yeah I get that I

00:21:19   get that I underst I'm een sure I

00:21:21   couldn't work on would never work that

00:21:23   way but I know that you have in the past

00:21:24   so I understand I get that I can't get

00:21:26   what's going on here your business I

00:21:28   think many people's businesses would

00:21:30   totally fall apart without more frequent

00:21:32   contact with email yeah but but yeah

00:21:34   with for me by far and away the two

00:21:37   biggest things that disrupt my life but

00:21:40   that I still do need to pay attention to

00:21:42   are iMessage and slack and and those are

00:21:45   the things where it's like man if I get

00:21:47   a like a slack message in the morning it

00:21:49   can really derail the day where I start

00:21:51   thinking about a thing that doesn't

00:21:53   really need to be thought about now but

00:21:55   so in the afternoon when I swap watches

00:21:59   then the messages from my message and

00:22:02   slack can get through and it is just it

00:22:05   is simply I did try for a little while

00:22:08   to do not even have slack on my phone

00:22:10   but it it's that cross

00:22:12   a line of like the convenience of having

00:22:16   all of my business related messaging on

00:22:19   the phone is just too great to remove it

00:22:22   from the phone because removing it from

00:22:24   the phone then turns me into an

00:22:26   incredible bottleneck where lots of

00:22:30   things that just require my approval or

00:22:33   like one one sentence of input like then

00:22:35   this suddenly becomes a multi-day

00:22:37   process about like when have I opened up

00:22:39   slack on my computer so I I have it as

00:22:42   this case it's like in the afternoons

00:22:44   that's what I'm gonna get notifications

00:22:46   from my message and from slack and I'm

00:22:48   managing that by swapping out the

00:22:50   watch's slack is too important like you

00:22:53   make it that right like you know I have

00:22:56   I know you have we spoke about it in the

00:22:57   past right you end up eventually because

00:22:59   you think it's great right like it's

00:23:01   great it's a great system you end up

00:23:02   putting too much stuff into it and

00:23:04   therefore you make it too important and

00:23:05   you've just moved the stuff it's still

00:23:07   better than email but it's it still just

00:23:10   becomes a big bucket of responsibilities

00:23:14   yeah I definitely still have cooked very

00:23:16   conflicted feelings about slack in a way

00:23:18   that I didn't when I first started it

00:23:19   but the big difference there is like for

00:23:22   for my company slack and the slacks of

00:23:25   other companies that I'm involved with

00:23:26   they are fundamentally there's still

00:23:30   invitation-only systems so unlike email

00:23:34   where anybody in the whole world sending

00:23:37   messages and like stuff can come in from

00:23:39   all over the place

00:23:40   sure slack is still kind of an

00:23:43   overwhelming mess but at least it has a

00:23:45   clearly defined perimeter it's like

00:23:48   people you know you want to hear from

00:23:50   before you've heard from them exactly

00:23:52   yeah that that's that's what's happening

00:23:54   there and it is also again like a

00:23:56   limited a more limited section of people

00:23:59   I have frequent work contact with as

00:24:01   well whereas as email is just it's just

00:24:04   too expansive and so yeah as as you can

00:24:07   see from my note there I do have it set

00:24:09   up on my phone I have a special email

00:24:11   account that just allows me to send

00:24:13   messages out if for some reason I need

00:24:15   to send a message from my phone

00:24:16   it's a gmail account that I set up and

00:24:18   all that gmail account has is a single

00:24:20   rule that all messages it receives it

00:24:24   forwards on to my real

00:24:26   lecounte so I can deal with them at like

00:24:28   a right my desktop computer but I can

00:24:30   still send a message from an email

00:24:33   address that's like gray is just using

00:24:35   his phone and won't actually be able to

00:24:38   reply from this email address at

00:24:40   gmail.com right like that's the answer

00:24:42   and I'm assuming that there is a very

00:24:45   limited amount of people that get email

00:24:46   from that account just by the nature of

00:24:48   its the way it's set up right I use it

00:24:52   more than you might think but it's still

00:24:53   not a lot I mean I imagine you using it

00:24:56   a lot but I can't imagine it is a very

00:24:58   large group of people because yeah you

00:25:01   don't know if you don't see what's

00:25:02   coming in you don't know why you would

00:25:04   need to contact someone so it's just

00:25:05   something that pops into your head I

00:25:06   would assume most of the time yeah what

00:25:08   usually happens is exactly that a thing

00:25:10   that pops into my head that I want to

00:25:12   tell a person who is not in one of the

00:25:16   slacks that I manage right like that's

00:25:18   that's usually the the use case there

00:25:20   and sounds like okay now I need to send

00:25:21   an outgoing message to a person that I

00:25:23   would not invite into the gray company

00:25:26   slack because it doesn't make any sense

00:25:27   because they're not actually involved in

00:25:29   the company but I still need to send

00:25:30   them a message so that's that's the way

00:25:32   that works and and like I said what I

00:25:34   what I'm trying to manage here is this

00:25:36   idea that the phone is with me all the

00:25:39   time yeah and so it is a kind of

00:25:42   environment and what I'm really trying

00:25:44   to optimize for here is the phone should

00:25:48   be as minimally disruptive as possible

00:25:51   and I have but part of all I was on fire

00:25:55   gray industries corporate retreat for

00:25:57   one I was doing some of the pre work for

00:25:59   this I really went through my phone

00:26:01   again and just uninstalled absolutely

00:26:04   everything I could think of that wasn't

00:26:07   totally vital no interesting I feel like

00:26:10   I feel like I want to see that that's

00:26:14   can I find it so interesting just how

00:26:19   many apps are still on my phone when

00:26:23   this comes up with people I find it

00:26:24   interesting that it's like if we do

00:26:25   phone comparisons I'm often like the

00:26:27   weird I'm like a weird Luddite with the

00:26:30   way I used my phone where it seems like

00:26:32   it's so limited but then at the same

00:26:34   time there's still something like a

00:26:35   hundred apps on my phone I just think

00:26:38   it's an interesting

00:26:40   it's like an interesting commentary on

00:26:42   modern life how vital and important this

00:26:44   piece of technology is and that even

00:26:47   what most people would regard as crazy

00:26:48   bear minimal use is still still covers

00:26:52   an incredible range of possible

00:26:55   activities so I just I just find that

00:26:57   it's like an interesting commentary on

00:26:59   the modern world the largest section of

00:27:02   this diagram is contained within the

00:27:08   glass cube so I am naturally assuming

00:27:10   that you're out of home office is where

00:27:12   you're spending the majority of your

00:27:14   work time now okay Mike let's get into

00:27:17   this okay glass cube one of the things

00:27:21   that I decided to do as part of the year

00:27:23   of order was I have recently upgraded my

00:27:28   glass cube so I've gotten a a bigger

00:27:31   glass cube it's still the way to fix it

00:27:33   kidnapped it's still it's still a glass

00:27:37   cube it's still weird it still feels

00:27:39   somehow like I'm working at Facebook

00:27:41   during the day except with glass

00:27:44   barriers it's very strange but I got a

00:27:48   bigger space because of a bunch of

00:27:50   things that I thought I want to to do

00:27:52   with this space and I was trying to

00:27:54   think very intentionally about like okay

00:27:55   what am I gonna do here and what I have

00:27:59   decided is that the the thing that makes

00:28:03   the most sense is that the glass cube is

00:28:06   is going to be it's going to be like a

00:28:11   forge of creation that this is where the

00:28:14   kind of work that I do in this space is

00:28:17   going to be the creative work in in one

00:28:21   way or another so there's a bunch of

00:28:23   projects that prolate to this but one of

00:28:26   the main things that I've done is I have

00:28:29   taken one of my older computers and I

00:28:32   have turned it into a dedicated writing

00:28:36   station so the reason I got a bigger

00:28:38   glass cube is because I wanted to fit

00:28:40   not one but two desks into the space

00:28:44   because one of those desks is going to

00:28:48   be or I should say is because it's

00:28:50   already set up now it

00:28:51   is a standing desk that has a computer

00:28:55   that is only used for writing and I've

00:28:59   set it up sort of like the same idea

00:29:01   with the phone like I want to pare this

00:29:02   down to the minimum number of things

00:29:05   required that writing computer is only

00:29:09   going to have the three or four apps on

00:29:13   it that I need to actually do the

00:29:16   writing and it's gone so far as like the

00:29:18   account that I log in on that computer

00:29:20   it's not logged into iCloud I've set up

00:29:23   things that I can do everything through

00:29:24   Dropbox or separate thinking services so

00:29:27   it's like that account has nothing on it

00:29:30   really except Evernote and Ulysses as

00:29:34   the two main programs that I need it's

00:29:37   like here's research notes that I have

00:29:39   and then here's the main program that I

00:29:41   use for writing and so when I turn that

00:29:43   thing on it's like these are the only

00:29:45   apps that are here there's nothing else

00:29:47   for you when you're standing at this

00:29:49   desk this is what you're going to do end

00:29:52   of story

00:29:53   so that's that's part one of the glass

00:29:55   cube what is that computer that computer

00:29:58   is a 15-inch MacBook Pro that I've

00:30:02   connected to some external monitors so

00:30:06   that it's set up because it is what do

00:30:10   you mean of course it is did you think

00:30:13   it was going to be an iPad is that what

00:30:15   you were asking well it was forever

00:30:16   before and I don't know just like as a

00:30:19   machine that is single purpose with just

00:30:22   a couple of applications on that you can

00:30:25   exact an external keyboard to I don't

00:30:27   know whatever man whatever floats your

00:30:29   boat so I'll tell I'll tell you

00:30:31   something this is the sort of gets to a

00:30:32   little bit of the things that are later

00:30:34   on but one of the one of the like the

00:30:37   meta themes of the year of order when I

00:30:38   was trying to think about like setting

00:30:39   up these physical spaces is it's kind of

00:30:44   a funny thing that happened but a little

00:30:46   while ago I bought myself a new backpack

00:30:47   I was like wow look at this look at this

00:30:49   great backpack this thing is fantastic

00:30:51   and my backpack that I was using

00:30:55   previously was a little rundown I

00:30:57   thought yeah this needs a replacement

00:30:58   let me get a new one I need to save

00:31:00   future Mike okay

00:31:02   please tell me the name of the backpack

00:31:04   oh I don't know you can't just say like

00:31:07   I've got an amazing backpack and then

00:31:08   not then like you know me I'm just

00:31:11   wondering filming the questions right

00:31:14   like what's the backpack is it a link to

00:31:16   the backpack I need to see the backpack

00:31:19   it must have a name on it it must it

00:31:22   must be a label something somewhere I've

00:31:25   got it I've got it right here

00:31:28   just look like there's a label I mean

00:31:31   there's got to be something where did

00:31:35   you get the backpack I don't know why

00:31:38   would I remember where I got it did you

00:31:40   buy it in a physical say like if did you

00:31:42   buy I bought it online it looks like

00:31:45   there's a pede that there's a PD written

00:31:48   on it

00:31:49   no it doesn't help me does it help if I

00:31:53   say it's maybe the best backpack in the

00:31:55   world I don't know but it's cool

00:31:58   it has like a great you can hear it

00:32:01   there's like these fancy metal clasps

00:32:03   you can change the interior volume

00:32:06   around it's fantastic whatever you know

00:32:08   it's not whatever if you bought it on

00:32:10   Amazon you can get the information no I

00:32:13   didn't buy it on Amazon I bought it

00:32:15   directly from the website we'll be

00:32:17   knocking you mean you can open your

00:32:18   email app and just type backpack into

00:32:20   the search field I'll find it for you

00:32:23   later Mike now you want though all right

00:32:26   okay I just need this to be shown as

00:32:28   testament to the fact that I tried I'm

00:32:31   searching backpack I've got too many

00:32:35   emails with the word backpack no but you

00:32:41   know like Amazon is showing yeah there's

00:32:44   nothing I type in backpack and I've got

00:32:46   like a hundred emails here and I don't

00:32:48   see anything that's obviously the

00:32:49   receipt from the company do you think

00:32:51   people will ask you gray about the

00:32:53   backpack right I was going through ausco

00:32:55   text questions today and there was

00:32:58   somebody asking about our backpacks

00:33:00   based upon like episode three right yeah

00:33:03   that's that's what I'm thinking of it

00:33:04   because at that point you didn't give

00:33:06   the name of your backpack so I'm still

00:33:09   getting those questions so you know I

00:33:14   just you know I just need people to know

00:33:16   that I tried together

00:33:17   I found it I found it okay okay it's on

00:33:22   the on the interior cover of the

00:33:24   backpack by a company called peak design

00:33:27   that's what it is okay thanks

00:33:31   it's called the everyday backpack okay I

00:33:36   got it yeah I think that's that's the he

00:33:38   okay good yeah this is really good

00:33:41   somehow I knew you were not gonna relax

00:33:43   until I could know because I kind when I

00:33:46   know my future I know what my future is

00:33:48   you know any it was just full of like

00:33:51   your future is fielding these questions

00:33:53   yeah for forever yeah now I got it it

00:33:58   does look like a really nice bag

00:33:59   actually oh man yeah just a new bag I

00:34:02   don't need another one but this looks

00:34:04   like a really nice bag it is a really

00:34:06   great bag I bought a Tom bin sign apps

00:34:09   backpack by the way just so people don't

00:34:11   ask what backpack I bought okay yeah

00:34:13   there you go yeah it's it looks like it

00:34:17   is ostensibly designed for cameras

00:34:19   camera yeah exactly like camera

00:34:20   professionals and that is like when I

00:34:23   bought my original backpack and I made

00:34:24   that comment about how I was looking

00:34:26   into like what do runners use because I

00:34:28   was trying to find the lightest backpack

00:34:29   possible and I felt like Oh runners will

00:34:31   use super light backpacks then I found

00:34:33   what I really liked whose the same thing

00:34:34   with this I was trying to think about

00:34:35   equipment and I said surely there must

00:34:38   be backpacks that like wedding

00:34:40   photographers would use like what it

00:34:42   what is the professional solution to

00:34:44   this and that's how I stumbled upon this

00:34:45   this bag yeah but so it is great however

00:34:49   I bring all of this up because it was an

00:34:54   interesting thing to realize that I got

00:34:55   this backpack and I have hardly used it

00:34:59   in the past several months of having it

00:35:03   because I realize it's like wait a

00:35:07   minute I didn't I didn't buy this

00:35:12   backpack for me I bought this backpack

00:35:16   for the me I used to be I used to be the

00:35:20   person who spent all day wandering

00:35:23   around the city in different mobile

00:35:25   locations and working very mobile II

00:35:27   like I haven't been that guy in a long

00:35:30   time

00:35:31   and I've recognized that some of my

00:35:32   habits have changed where I'm just much

00:35:36   more in a smaller number of more

00:35:38   permanent locations and so it was making

00:35:42   me think very deliberately about my

00:35:43   workspace and so one of the reasons that

00:35:48   I did go with a Mac for my writing

00:35:51   station is I was thinking about like I

00:35:53   don't need to optimize this space for

00:35:58   mobility they don't need to optimize

00:36:01   this space for the situation where I'm

00:36:03   gonna just grab that iPad I'm on my way

00:36:06   out the door and I'm gonna use that one

00:36:07   iPad as my writing iPad like I don't

00:36:09   need to do that anymore instead what I

00:36:12   can do is if you accept that this

00:36:16   station is never going to be mobile you

00:36:19   can optimize it in a different way and

00:36:21   so one of the things that I can do is

00:36:24   that laptop is actually powering two of

00:36:28   the external 4k monitors from LG and I

00:36:32   have them both in the vertical set up

00:36:35   because one of the things that I really

00:36:37   want to be able to do is see as much of

00:36:40   the script as possible and so rotating a

00:36:43   monitor to be in the vertical position

00:36:45   is a really big bonus like it allows me

00:36:48   to see so much more of what I'm working

00:36:50   on and a lot of what I like about

00:36:53   Ulysses allows you to like rearrange

00:36:55   stuff it makes a lot of this way way

00:36:59   easier and it just comes down to the

00:37:01   case of like okay even if I wanted to

00:37:04   use an iPad the biggest iPad they make

00:37:08   is not as big as two 4k monitors so I've

00:37:11   like I'm just gonna eat this and say I'm

00:37:13   building this space to be a permanent

00:37:16   space what is the ideal that I would

00:37:18   want and that's what I would want two

00:37:21   monitors one for script one for research

00:37:23   and notes and I can just have them next

00:37:25   to each other super big all the time and

00:37:27   standing up and then the other desk has

00:37:31   an iMac Pro that's where the iMac pro

00:37:33   lives it lives on the second desk in the

00:37:35   glass cube and this is like heavy

00:37:37   project stuff including something called

00:37:39   project golem which is just a great name

00:37:41   it doesn't really matter what about the

00:37:43   names we're good

00:37:44   and that's the way you edit and produce

00:37:48   stuff so yeah the second half of the

00:37:52   cube it it's also like I'm trying to

00:37:54   make spaces different so it's like the

00:37:56   writing space is a standing up space

00:37:58   because I always pace around anyway and

00:38:00   then the I'm Mac Pro is a sitting down

00:38:03   space in the same cube and yeah what

00:38:06   what I've thinking of with this is again

00:38:10   work that falls in some category of

00:38:15   creative in a way so what I'm trying not

00:38:18   to do there is administrative tasks of

00:38:21   any kind what I'm trying to do is that

00:38:24   queso like the podcast editing I would

00:38:26   say is a kind of creative space that

00:38:27   also benefits greatly from having the

00:38:31   iMac Pro like it makes that much easier

00:38:33   doing the vlog editing is the same kind

00:38:35   of thing it's like this is creative work

00:38:37   it also benefits from having a much more

00:38:39   powerful computer because it's in the

00:38:43   same physical location as the writing I

00:38:45   do like to separate out when am i doing

00:38:49   research for script versus when am I

00:38:51   actually writing the script I try not to

00:38:53   do both of those things at the same time

00:38:55   so that I'm Mac Pro is also for research

00:38:58   and then yes I don't want to talk about

00:39:01   what the details of it are but I do have

00:39:04   a new project this year that's that is

00:39:07   sort of sort of thematically related to

00:39:11   the year of order but I'm just gonna

00:39:13   call it project Gollum for right now and

00:39:15   we will say that it definitely requires

00:39:18   a fast powerful computer for project

00:39:23   Gollum so that is a thing that is

00:39:25   underway that is also creative and is

00:39:29   going to happen in this space what was

00:39:32   that like a little West why am I the

00:39:34   worst you just I'm trying to just I'm

00:39:40   trying to describe for you my thinking

00:39:42   process here about where these different

00:39:44   spaces that's very good and then

00:39:46   obviously the only you have an outlier

00:39:49   right which is the podcast recording

00:39:50   because really that should live in the

00:39:52   glass cube thematically but from an

00:39:55   audio sound space perspective

00:39:57   cannot be ever recorded in space yeah

00:40:02   this is this is where there's a couple

00:40:03   of complex I actually the podcast to me

00:40:07   are such a different kind of work they

00:40:09   don't they don't feel creative in the

00:40:13   same way like creatives not the best

00:40:14   word for what I'm doing in the glass

00:40:16   cube but it's just the category that's

00:40:17   in my mind where's the podcasts are much

00:40:21   more like you know they're like going

00:40:23   out to a dinner with people you know

00:40:27   where it's just intensely draining

00:40:29   social work it feels like a very

00:40:31   different kind of thing and so there are

00:40:34   two good reasons to not have it be in

00:40:36   the glass cube it feels to me one like

00:40:38   that work is just a very different kind

00:40:40   of work from everything else and

00:40:41   secondly yes a glass cube and in the

00:40:46   middle of like a Facebook style Open

00:40:48   Office is an acoustically terrible

00:40:51   environment but so one of the one of the

00:40:55   other parts of like year of order is

00:40:56   thinking a lot about what do I use my

00:40:58   home office for and I'm really aware

00:41:00   that in the past year my home office has

00:41:03   become a kind of mess of ambiguity like

00:41:07   what what happens here what sort of work

00:41:09   is here what is this space for I've done

00:41:12   a really bad job with that

00:41:13   and so what I'm in the process of doing

00:41:17   is again deciding very intentionally

00:41:20   this is a if this is like a permanent

00:41:22   space how can you best optimize this

00:41:26   space for the kinds of tasks that you

00:41:27   want to do in here and so yes I'm

00:41:29   turning my home office into two things

00:41:34   but the primary one is an audio

00:41:37   recording studio so I will do all of the

00:41:41   podcasts in my home office and that also

00:41:44   means finally doing something like I'm

00:41:46   going to be upgrading some of the audio

00:41:48   equipment that I use finally even

00:41:51   listeners mike has been bothering me

00:41:53   about this for so long but but this is

00:41:57   this is a great example though again of

00:41:59   my current podcast recording setup I

00:42:02   mean you know this it's optimized for

00:42:05   mobility and flexibility that that's why

00:42:09   I choose some of the equipment that I

00:42:10   choose

00:42:11   like I use the the road USB and team

00:42:13   microphone which I totally love and it

00:42:16   is a great super flexible microphone but

00:42:19   I'm making this decision of okay if

00:42:22   you're starting over and if this space

00:42:24   is for this one task and all of the

00:42:28   equipment in here is never going to move

00:42:31   would you choose the equipment that

00:42:33   you're currently using and the answer is

00:42:35   no I would not choose this microphone

00:42:37   under those circumstances so I feel like

00:42:40   I have to have a conversation with our

00:42:41   good friend Marco Arment about what to

00:42:43   get because I am very out of my depth

00:42:46   here oh I know what ya think I've

00:42:49   already had a conversation with him so

00:42:50   you're probably gonna end up exactly

00:42:52   exactly what I have

00:42:54   okay great do you want give me a preview

00:42:56   what do you use mic no it's too much

00:42:58   it's that's too much yeah I will put a

00:43:00   link in the show notes to Marco Arment

00:43:02   guide for podcast microphones because

00:43:06   what I use is not good to tell people to

00:43:09   use because it kind of gets into that

00:43:12   area of you know you end up with small

00:43:15   gains for a large cost right right yeah

00:43:18   because I've been doing this for eight

00:43:19   years and I've built up over time

00:43:22   there's pointless to start where I am

00:43:25   but yeah it's all included in that in

00:43:27   that guide which you'll find in our show

00:43:29   notes but that's also part of the like

00:43:33   intentionally thinking about the kind of

00:43:35   work that I do and recognizing that

00:43:38   optimizing for mobility is not sensible

00:43:41   and that I am in the same category as

00:43:43   you if I obviously I don't do nearly as

00:43:46   much audio work as you but I do enough

00:43:49   that optimizing for small gains is a

00:43:52   sensible thing to do and it's probably a

00:43:55   thing I should have done a year ago yeah

00:43:56   but like now now I'm just doing it now

00:43:59   and the other thing that I'm going to be

00:44:02   looking into is acoustic treatments for

00:44:06   the room so that getting some of the

00:44:07   noise reduction foam and other things

00:44:10   put into this office

00:44:12   I think this office is fine for that but

00:44:15   it's not great and I know that I could

00:44:16   make it better and that's again the same

00:44:18   kind of thing of like does it make the

00:44:21   audio five percent better maybe but

00:44:24   I'm going to spend time on that under

00:44:26   this umbrella of the year of order but

00:44:29   right now my main focus

00:44:31   my main focus has been setting up the

00:44:34   glass cube and I've gotten the glass

00:44:35   cube into what I think of as version 1.0

00:44:38   where it's minimally functional but

00:44:41   there's much more that I want to do and

00:44:42   I'm really aware of like when people try

00:44:46   to change it's very easy to try to

00:44:49   change everything all at once

00:44:51   and then you do everything terribly and

00:44:53   I'm taking this like very limited small

00:44:58   focus and so that's why I feel like

00:45:01   right now I'm focusing on my just my

00:45:02   physical space I'm not even trying to

00:45:04   touch my routine or my health or any of

00:45:07   these other things that I want to do

00:45:08   it's like okay just focus on the

00:45:10   physical space and then within that

00:45:11   right now I am just focusing on the

00:45:15   glass cube as the main area and so I'm

00:45:18   gonna get that absolutely the way I want

00:45:20   it to be it's like and then I will turn

00:45:22   my full attention to the home office and

00:45:24   what's going to happen is everything is

00:45:27   in the home office is is coming out and

00:45:29   then I'm going to just deliberately

00:45:31   bring things back in or set up the new

00:45:33   equipment but so it's like I'm trying to

00:45:35   focus on the smallest possible piece

00:45:38   each at a time but I can tell you all of

00:45:41   my glass office cube neighbors they know

00:45:47   who the who the weirdo on the floor is

00:45:48   really fast it's like okay what are you

00:45:51   doing now two desks hasn't seen that

00:45:53   weird

00:45:53   it does seem weird as two desks and it's

00:45:55   one person but it was also just I had

00:45:59   all just I had a lot of boxes coming in

00:46:02   and coming in under short periods of

00:46:07   time and there was there was a lot of

00:46:08   activity going on and there's just a few

00:46:12   things that make me like the office

00:46:13   weirdo that I don't quite want to go

00:46:15   into details much like I can people

00:46:16   looking they're like that's that guy's

00:46:18   that guy's the weird guy on the floor in

00:46:20   that office what's he doing eventually

00:46:22   you're gonna have to build that building

00:46:24   because you're gonna be kicked out of

00:46:25   every office space within the m25 I am

00:46:28   aware that some of the stuff that I'm

00:46:29   bringing to the glass cube like maybe

00:46:31   this is not the final resting home of

00:46:33   all of his stuff but I am mentally

00:46:34   treating it as though I'm gonna be there

00:46:35   for a long time

00:46:37   even if when I do construct an office

00:46:39   building of my own in May it may all be

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00:48:50   so that those are like the two main

00:48:52   things with the computer that I'm going

00:48:54   to be using in my home office again I'm

00:48:57   going to deliberately strip everything

00:48:59   off of there that is not required for

00:49:02   recording a podcast so I'm going to have

00:49:04   a machine that the only thing it does is

00:49:08   I turn it on and I record podcasts on it

00:49:11   and then I save those files and they get

00:49:13   synced to the cloud and that machine is

00:49:15   used for literally nothing else because

00:49:18   if there's one thing I have learned over

00:49:20   the years of podcasting it's that audio

00:49:22   recording is surprisingly fiddly and

00:49:24   stuff just somehow changes even when

00:49:28   you're doing other things on the machine

00:49:29   that's incredibly frustrating so sorry

00:49:31   I'm gonna have a machine that is

00:49:33   untouched except for this one purpose

00:49:36   and and that is going to be in my home

00:49:40   office and all other software that is

00:49:42   not necessary on that machine is going

00:49:45   to be removed and it's again it's the

00:49:47   same thing with like the iMac Pro in the

00:49:50   glass cube it's very deliberate removal

00:49:53   of all software that is not necessary

00:49:56   for the vlog or for editing or for

00:50:01   project Gollum like everything is coming

00:50:03   off that is not required for those

00:50:04   things I really like how you refer to

00:50:06   the vlog when you've done what well

00:50:10   maybe we can get back to this a little

00:50:12   bit later but uh we can say that I'll

00:50:15   just say now that on my we love we love

00:50:17   recorded time for last year

00:50:20   vlog stuff was a surprisingly big chunk

00:50:23   of that time so even for me it is still

00:50:25   a very active project even though I know

00:50:27   to outside it seems like it's crazy

00:50:30   right like nothing has happened so

00:50:33   that's that still seems very active I

00:50:35   have a very small update for the year of

00:50:37   adulting one of my two themes I am now

00:50:41   30 so I've completed task one which was

00:50:44   to have my birthday and I've done that

00:50:46   you've made it yeah happy birthday

00:50:48   that's so that's that's point one thank

00:50:50   you very much and I'm adding something

00:50:52   in to the year I do not have a driving

00:50:57   license I live in a big city

00:51:03   so there are two things to this I tried

00:51:05   to learn to drive when I was like 17 and

00:51:08   I would spend 45 minutes once a week

00:51:11   stuck in traffic which is not the best

00:51:14   way to learn how to drive and then also

00:51:16   I have I am afforded with fantastic

00:51:19   travel in this city the public transport

00:51:22   is wonderful but to think about some

00:51:26   things that I want to do in my work and

00:51:28   personal life over the next few years a

00:51:31   car would be a great addition to that

00:51:34   and would help facilitate a bunch of

00:51:35   things so I am planning to get a driving

00:51:40   license by the end of the year like

00:51:42   after we get married at some point

00:51:44   towards the end of the year I'm gonna

00:51:46   take one of those like intensive courses

00:51:47   things and get a driving license and get

00:51:49   a little car that I intend to bump into

00:51:52   some stuff and then I'm gonna have a car

00:51:54   on a driving license so that's part of

00:51:56   my other thing for my year of adulting

00:51:58   that's very exciting I have a friend who

00:52:01   she just went through that where she's

00:52:03   never never drove and and as an adult

00:52:06   got her driver's license you know and

00:52:09   when you live in the city your whole

00:52:10   life it's you know it's just like people

00:52:12   who live in Manhattan all right there's

00:52:14   no real need or more pressure to get a

00:52:16   driver's license because public

00:52:18   transport is fantastic and doubly so in

00:52:21   the world of ride-sharing services la

00:52:24   yeah it's you know it makes it even even

00:52:27   less necessary but that'll be it'll be

00:52:30   having an interesting and exciting

00:52:31   project for you Mike yep because like

00:52:33   one of the things that I want to do is

00:52:35   eventually probably over in the next

00:52:36   couple of years I want to get an office

00:52:38   space outside of my home what we're

00:52:43   where I am like in the kind of the area

00:52:45   that I'm in I don't know where there

00:52:48   would be any office spaces but I reckon

00:52:50   that they would probably be like a

00:52:51   10-minute Drive from home right and it

00:52:54   would just be easier if I have my own

00:52:55   car to deal with that mm-hmm right then

00:52:58   then because I want to live I get I can

00:53:01   easily imagine that as the situation for

00:53:03   where you are yeah if you are going to

00:53:05   have an office almost certainly it's

00:53:08   going to be way easier to drive to that

00:53:10   office because the other thing is like

00:53:12   there are some places close to me where

00:53:14   I could get a space but they're not

00:53:16   gonna be ideal

00:53:17   and I open myself up to many more

00:53:21   opportunities if I have a car because I

00:53:24   can then you know the catchment area for

00:53:28   my studio space can grow significantly

00:53:30   if my mobility is increased so that's

00:53:34   kind of one that's one of the things I'm

00:53:36   thinking of so this is that that is like

00:53:39   a multi-year project which doesn't need

00:53:42   to start but before I can do it I need

00:53:45   to get I need to get a driving license

00:53:47   to get a car yeah and the year of

00:53:49   adulting seems like the perfect year to

00:53:51   have that as a target mm-hmm

00:53:53   we have a car parking space in our

00:53:55   building that we own it just came with

00:53:58   our apartment and it's in like an

00:54:01   underground carpark type situation and I

00:54:04   have no idea what the feasibility would

00:54:06   be to try and convince the owners of the

00:54:07   building to put a plug socket in there

00:54:09   for me but I'm thinking it because like

00:54:11   I've never owned a car why don't I just

00:54:14   get an electric car right and just never

00:54:16   owned a petrol car but if you're going

00:54:20   to do that I would highly recommend

00:54:23   making that technological leap my plan

00:54:26   is to try and see if we can convince

00:54:28   someone to allow us to get that put in

00:54:30   because I just feel like if I'm gonna be

00:54:34   buying a car in 2018 why even bother

00:54:37   with petrol yeah I would agree with you

00:54:39   100% so I mean I'm not we would you know

00:54:42   there's like a pretty decent secondhand

00:54:44   market for like Nissan Leafs and stuff

00:54:47   like that right that we would probably

00:54:49   get something like that but you know I

00:54:51   have my mind that maybe in five years I

00:54:53   buy a Tesla or something you know like

00:54:55   when I can actually buy a real car

00:54:57   because I'm not just gonna bump it into

00:54:58   everything but I just figure why if it's

00:55:02   possible for me to just go straight to

00:55:04   electric because that's clearly the

00:55:05   future why don't I just start with

00:55:08   electric so that's like another long I'm

00:55:11   sure very arduous project then I think

00:55:14   the idea would probably take great

00:55:16   enjoyment out of trying to win as

00:55:18   something that she would enjoy great

00:55:20   layers like a project for her to try and

00:55:24   convince the building owners to allow us

00:55:26   to put a plug in the car park we'll see

00:55:28   how that one goes when you get your

00:55:30   license you know

00:55:31   you're legally required to go on at

00:55:33   least one road trip oh yeah yeah this is

00:55:36   like the whole thing we were talking

00:55:38   about it yesterday there's like oh we

00:55:39   can go on down to the coast and it's

00:55:41   like yeah I think of all the places we

00:55:43   can go we never go anywhere but think of

00:55:45   all the places we could go

00:55:46   well I wish you luck with that yeah

00:55:48   that's some time on that one but it did

00:55:50   occurred to me that that fits quite

00:55:52   nicely in with the theme so Mike

00:55:54   speaking of people who don't upload logs

00:55:57   I haven't seen you upload a vlog in a

00:55:59   very long time how's that going

00:56:01   I've come to a decision about my

00:56:03   vlogging experiment which I'm now

00:56:05   calling an experiment in retrospect okay

00:56:08   I was like wait a minute I don't

00:56:09   remember this word before I'm sure I

00:56:11   said it at some point

00:56:12   alright so okay we're reading this I'm

00:56:16   not recommending it one of the things

00:56:17   that I did last year was in in essence I

00:56:22   guess was a introduction to what it

00:56:26   would be like to have a year of

00:56:27   branching out was to try something new

00:56:29   and create a YouTube channel and create

00:56:33   vlog content for it that was the plan

00:56:34   and I wanted to see what it would be

00:56:37   like to start a vlog and what that would

00:56:39   take and I've come to some conclusions

00:56:42   about how I feel about being a vlogger I

00:56:47   think that it is very clear that to get

00:56:49   good and to get popular requires

00:56:51   frequent uploading right like I think

00:56:53   that that is in vlogging that seems to

00:56:56   be something which helps success is to

00:57:01   upload frequently whatever that ends up

00:57:04   being like okay what is it what does

00:57:06   that mean there's a big spectrum here I

00:57:07   don't know I think at least at least

00:57:09   once a week or a couple of times a week

00:57:12   it would seem right these from the

00:57:13   people that I follow that are primarily

00:57:17   doing life stylish vlogging stipe stuff

00:57:20   there is very current uploading to that

00:57:23   and I have a couple of issues that have

00:57:28   precluded me from being able to do that

00:57:31   one is the amount of time that I

00:57:36   actually have to put into another

00:57:40   creative project

00:57:42   and really I don't have it I don't have

00:57:47   the time in my life to create two

00:57:49   YouTube videos a week or one a week even

00:57:53   it's just not a thing that I can do well

00:57:56   if I remember your original goal was one

00:57:58   a month wasn't it it wasn't that sort of

00:58:00   roughly what you were aiming yeah it was

00:58:02   okay so you're saying this is the

00:58:03   combination of if this thing is going to

00:58:06   be successful it probably needs to be at

00:58:08   least once a week yes and that that

00:58:11   energy is just beyond the amount that

00:58:12   you have to spend in a week yep

00:58:14   especially with the the upcoming big

00:58:17   project exactly but the thing is one of

00:58:22   the problems that I had was one of the

00:58:26   problems that I had with doing stuff on

00:58:28   a more frequent basis it's not even just

00:58:30   time it is content like what do I make

00:58:35   right

00:58:36   well Mike the the viewers they wanted to

00:58:39   see what a normal day in Mike's life is

00:58:42   like you think you want to see it but

00:58:45   like I'm telling you you don't it's so

00:58:46   boring

00:58:47   yeah everybody thinks they want to see

00:58:49   it but it's actually super boring you

00:58:51   would hand just trust me like you would

00:58:54   hate it how would you describe what a

00:58:56   normal day actually looks like for you

00:58:58   my sitting down sitting down in front of

00:59:01   a computer what are you doing clicking

00:59:03   oh well let the stuff that anybody wants

00:59:04   to see is just different places that I

00:59:07   sit down

00:59:08   right right how many of those places

00:59:10   even are there Tori yeah exactly the

00:59:15   thing is is I don't have enough to give

00:59:20   from a Content perspective because I

00:59:23   make so much already so all of the

00:59:26   things I have to say I've already said

00:59:29   them right like so I was thinking

00:59:32   something that I see from the vloggers

00:59:34   that that I like is about half of the

00:59:37   content at least that they make tends to

00:59:39   be them talking to the camera about a

00:59:41   thing yeah in a broad way a lot of it

00:59:45   could be classified as opinion pieces

00:59:47   yeah but I have no extra opinions than

00:59:52   the ones that I give on all of the shows

00:59:54   that I make right so that

00:59:56   that became apparent to me really

00:59:57   quickly the eye burns

00:59:57   quickly the eye burns

01:00:00   through my topic ideas within like three

01:00:04   months they're all gone and typically we

01:00:09   have a creative project that I have that

01:00:10   is not the case

01:00:12   that I will hang on to topics for a long

01:00:14   time because they're in the initial list

01:00:18   that I create hasn't foreseen all of the

01:00:20   other things that might come to me

01:00:22   mm-hmm

01:00:23   but they didn't nothing really came to

01:00:26   me and they have a big thing is that I

01:00:31   realized that I would lose too much of

01:00:35   my private life if I decided that I

01:00:38   wanted to do this more frequently

01:00:40   because if I don't have topics to sit in

01:00:47   front of the cameras to talk about all I

01:00:50   can do is show more of my life right and

01:00:55   I decided that I'm comfortable with the

01:01:01   amount that I already show and that the

01:01:04   things that I don't talk about and the

01:01:06   things that people don't know about is

01:01:08   for a reason

01:01:10   mm-hm and if I vlog more I would lose

01:01:15   all of it far too frequently something

01:01:18   that I see with the vloggers that I like

01:01:21   to watch is that you see in their videos

01:01:23   they spend time with colleagues and

01:01:26   friends who were also vloggers right and

01:01:29   you see these scenes where it's like

01:01:31   five people each talking into a camera

01:01:33   and I I don't I don't want to put my

01:01:37   friends and family in those types of

01:01:39   situations because my friends and family

01:01:42   don't do this and I don't want to

01:01:46   subject everything about my life and all

01:01:49   of the people in it to the world like

01:01:51   podcasting what I do right now it's

01:01:53   fixed like I'm in my studio and I talk

01:01:55   about what I want to talk about but

01:01:57   vlogging shows more of everything in a

01:02:00   direct way like people and places and

01:02:02   like bad hair days like you see

01:02:05   everything yeah there's a world of

01:02:08   difference between you talking about

01:02:12   Idina on

01:02:13   podcast and you filming Idina to put in

01:02:19   your vlog that there's a way that that

01:02:22   turns it into oh I'm not just relaying a

01:02:25   thing where the original person is not

01:02:27   involved when yeah how to put it but

01:02:32   like when vloggers are filming their

01:02:34   family they are pretty explicitly

01:02:39   requesting a performance of their family

01:02:42   you exactly yeah like that that is what

01:02:45   is happening and it's the same thing

01:02:46   that happens if you're friends with

01:02:48   someone who is vlogging they are even if

01:02:53   you're just sort of in the background

01:02:54   now there's like an implicit request

01:02:57   that you do a performance for them I

01:03:00   really notice have noticed it when I

01:03:02   have blog trips that I've taken that

01:03:06   people are very aware like if I'm doing

01:03:08   anything with my phone they think that

01:03:11   I'm filming booth and like people make

01:03:14   these like jokey comments but they're

01:03:16   really just checking when we were in

01:03:18   WWDC I saw a bunch of this and I was I

01:03:21   was aware of that with you where people

01:03:22   were making comments to you where

01:03:24   they're like are you vlogging this right

01:03:25   like hahaha but am I on camera am I on

01:03:29   camera right now yeah that that's that's

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01:06:05   of this show and relay FM basically I've

01:06:09   just come to realize that the life that

01:06:12   I have right now doesn't fit this if I

01:06:16   want to do this I have to make changes

01:06:18   to my life and I've come to kind of come

01:06:22   to the conclusion that I don't want to

01:06:24   be a vlogger like I've just come to I

01:06:27   don't want to pursue it to try and

01:06:29   become this thing because I think I

01:06:31   might lose too much of what I currently

01:06:33   have unlike it would disrupt everything

01:06:37   in a way that I may be not comfortable

01:06:40   with

01:06:41   and I I don't want to never do them

01:06:44   because there are vlogs that I know I

01:06:48   will be able to make about travel where

01:06:51   it's mostly just me and I still want to

01:06:54   make those because I actually really

01:06:55   enjoy that but I have no intention of

01:07:00   continuing to make this a serious thing

01:07:03   like there are other types of

01:07:04   technology-based videos that I want to

01:07:06   do and I still want to make those I want

01:07:11   to do more game streaming as a thing

01:07:13   because I like doing that it's

01:07:15   relatively low amount of input for the

01:07:17   output mm-hmm but yeah as far as

01:07:20   vlogging goes I'm not I'm not a vlogger

01:07:24   and I'm not gonna be like yeah I mean

01:07:27   there is a way in which from my limited

01:07:31   experience with it but also just from

01:07:32   knowing and seeing people who are really

01:07:35   in that industry that how can I put this

01:07:43   in a nice way but I think for people who

01:07:45   are vlogging constantly it is like

01:07:48   strip-mining their life where everything

01:07:51   they're doing is seen through the lens

01:07:54   of how this can be presented to the

01:07:56   outside world and I think there's a long

01:08:01   tradition of people who are vloggers on

01:08:04   YouTube who do very frequent multi multi

01:08:06   times a week content who you can just

01:08:10   see them burn out and so there is no

01:08:15   shortage of videos on YouTube where a

01:08:17   vlogger who has been very prolific says

01:08:19   hey I need to step away from this for a

01:08:22   while because it's just emptied out

01:08:25   lines of her life well is there's

01:08:27   actually two ways you burn out when you

01:08:29   flame out right it's either you've

01:08:30   you've had enough or you push it too far

01:08:32   and there's equal amount of videos of

01:08:36   people doing something for the vlog

01:08:39   which was too much right and and I have

01:08:44   no desire to go in either of those

01:08:46   journeys in my life yeah well and

01:08:49   there's also the thing that I think

01:08:50   people you know if anybody out there is

01:08:52   like like oh I want to be a vlogger well

01:08:54   also that this thing you just probably

01:08:56   don't think about very much but there's

01:08:58   a question of how many how much hmm I

01:09:01   never quite know how to phrase this but

01:09:03   it's like um you know it's like your

01:09:06   life is a garden and things in the

01:09:08   garden grow slowly and vlogging is like

01:09:12   you're trying to harvest flowers out of

01:09:13   the garden every single day mm-hmm it's

01:09:16   like well that just can't happen there's

01:09:20   it there's a question of like what is

01:09:21   the frequency of which you can pull

01:09:23   flowers out of this garden but they

01:09:25   don't make flowers every day flowers

01:09:27   take a while and you know like we

01:09:30   discussed last time I went through my

01:09:32   own little version of this and that was

01:09:33   part of what the year of redirection was

01:09:35   was just recognizing like I'm I'm doing

01:09:39   podcasts that are largely about my life

01:09:43   in some ways as like the frequency is

01:09:45   just a little too high that it feels

01:09:49   like I'm coming back to this garden to

01:09:50   pull flowers too often so I need to pull

01:09:53   it back just a little bit and when

01:09:55   people are doing daily vlogs it's like

01:09:57   you are ripping all of the flowers out

01:09:59   of this garden and I think it's why when

01:10:02   I think it's why there there's two

01:10:04   things that happen very frequently with

01:10:06   the vlogs is that they become or people

01:10:09   who do successful vlogs have a

01:10:10   disproportionate amount of travel in

01:10:12   their life because travel is a way like

01:10:16   getting flowers out of another garden

01:10:18   like you're going somewhere you're doing

01:10:20   something and then especially lately

01:10:24   what has been a trend on on youtube I

01:10:26   think is manufactured stunts for the

01:10:29   vlogs so you you're now you're not

01:10:31   really vlogging your daily life it's

01:10:34   much more like you're putting together a

01:10:37   TV show oh you have to yeah and so now

01:10:41   you're artificially constructing things

01:10:42   nobody's life is interesting enough like

01:10:45   yeah you have to create situations and

01:10:49   that was something that I've realized

01:10:51   quickly like I started vlogging at a

01:10:55   time in my life that was very

01:10:56   interesting yeah we discussed it that

01:10:59   you were very aware that there was a

01:11:01   bunch of stuff going on in your life at

01:11:03   that time and so if you were going to

01:11:04   try this project that was the fertile

01:11:07   time to do it

01:11:08   yeah and it worked for me but then I

01:11:10   realize oh but now it's normal daily

01:11:14   life and every couple of months every

01:11:18   six to eight weeks I'm going somewhere

01:11:19   interesting and they're cool but what

01:11:21   about all the other times and that was

01:11:24   why I was struggling with once I moved

01:11:26   into my house and built my office and

01:11:29   did all of that stuff the really

01:11:32   exciting time in my life was done and

01:11:34   I'm moving into an exciting time now

01:11:37   which is getting married but I have

01:11:40   absolutely no desire to film any of that

01:11:43   process

01:11:44   yeah and that's that's again that the

01:11:46   the conflict of being like a private

01:11:49   person who lives in public in a way is

01:11:51   do you want to strip-mine your marriage

01:11:53   this was one of the big reasons for me

01:11:56   where I realized that maybe this wasn't

01:11:57   for me it was like if I'm gonna if I'm

01:12:00   gonna be a vlogger man I have a linen

01:12:02   like how great a video type thing is

01:12:05   that right to show your wedding to

01:12:06   people but I realized I didn't want to

01:12:08   do that yeah and there's also a way in

01:12:11   which obviously I'm not really like a

01:12:16   vlog of Locker but they're my most

01:12:18   direct comparison to this of a thing

01:12:20   where you realize something is changing

01:12:22   the way you think is I mean now this is

01:12:24   several years ago when I decided to take

01:12:26   Twitter off of my phone but I realized

01:12:29   it cleared up all of this mental space

01:12:31   where there was some part of my brain

01:12:33   that was constantly thinking oh is this

01:12:35   a funny thing to tweet this this thought

01:12:37   that just came into my brain is this a

01:12:39   funny thing or I'm at someplace and like

01:12:42   oh is there a picture I could I could

01:12:43   put on Twitter at this place that I am

01:12:45   and by removing Twitter from my phone

01:12:47   and just took that away and then I'm

01:12:48   just not thinking about that anymore

01:12:51   but again it's like if you are going to

01:12:53   be a successful vlogger you start

01:12:56   thinking about everything in your life

01:12:58   in those terms of is this for the vlog

01:13:01   yeah right is this for the vlog and I

01:13:03   feel like I need to make this super

01:13:04   clear like this conversation is not

01:13:07   based around the fact that oh if I

01:13:08   decided to do this I would become a

01:13:10   megastar like that's not what I'm

01:13:12   thinking here when we talk about being

01:13:13   successful

01:13:14   it is me trying to attempt to get to a

01:13:17   place where I might be in that position

01:13:19   like I don't believe that if I made a

01:13:21   video

01:13:22   every week for six months that I would

01:13:23   be like the next Casey nice that but

01:13:25   right because there's many people who

01:13:27   make videos every exactly not but I

01:13:29   can't unless I put the work in I could

01:13:31   never get to anywhere unless I put the

01:13:33   work in and I've just decided that I

01:13:35   don't want to put the work in to even

01:13:37   try and attempt to become someone who'd

01:13:39   be considered a part of the bloggers and

01:13:40   they're like as part of that work ya

01:13:43   know the conversation here is not that

01:13:44   you would be inevitably successful

01:13:45   there's there's a lesson here for

01:13:47   everyone who might want to be a vlogger

01:13:50   which is that you can strip-mine your

01:13:53   life for the public and still be

01:13:55   unsuccessful as well and you get nothing

01:13:58   right so that that was part of it was

01:14:00   like I give up everything maybe get

01:14:03   nothing back and it's like do I really

01:14:05   want to take that risk and then one of

01:14:07   the other big things for me which is a

01:14:08   lesson that I will want to impart to

01:14:10   anyone I was dreading the creation mmm

01:14:14   that's a bad sign that's a really bad

01:14:16   sign exactly so I would be like I'd have

01:14:18   my toss come up to be like okay you've

01:14:20   got to start working on a vlog like

01:14:21   you're approaching the end of the month

01:14:23   and I'd be like I don't want to do it

01:14:25   for a project that's supposed to be a

01:14:26   fun side project that's terrible nothing

01:14:30   else that I do do I feel that way and if

01:14:33   I ever start to feel that way of

01:14:34   anything one of two things happens I

01:14:37   ever change significantly the project or

01:14:40   killer and I've always worked that way

01:14:42   and I decide and when I came to the

01:14:45   realization I was not enjoying thinking

01:14:49   about necessarily being forced to make a

01:14:51   video that was when I deleted the task

01:14:53   right and that happened in the summer

01:14:55   so the recurring task of create a vlog

01:14:58   went away so then you will notice my

01:15:01   frequency went down because then I only

01:15:03   just started making vlogs about one they

01:15:04   wanted to make vlogs about and then one

01:15:06   of the bigger ones was when I was away

01:15:08   for four weeks over the summer I

01:15:10   recorded a bunch of vlog footage to

01:15:13   create a huge vlog Alvin I got home and

01:15:15   I had so much footage I didn't know what

01:15:19   to do with it and then that was when I

01:15:22   kind of decided that this probably isn't

01:15:25   the thing for me I mean it's been an

01:15:28   interesting experiment personally I'm

01:15:31   kind of sad that you're not going to be

01:15:32   vlogging frequently like obviously the

01:15:34   writing was on the wall a little bit

01:15:35   with this as the frequency dropped I did

01:15:39   really enjoy your vlogs but I do I do

01:15:42   think that you have still come out of

01:15:43   this with you learn how to do a new

01:15:46   thing and you have also established the

01:15:49   existence of the mic early YouTube

01:15:51   channel it is there whenever I want to

01:15:53   do something with it yeah it's no longer

01:15:55   the case of if you want to upload a

01:15:57   youtube video you'd be starting from

01:15:59   Ground Zero that you now have some

01:16:02   inbuilt audience over there and it's

01:16:05   like if if you feel like there is a

01:16:07   video that you want to make that you

01:16:08   feel compelled to make you have a place

01:16:10   to put it and it has a place to start on

01:16:14   YouTube with with some pre-existing

01:16:16   audience that is already there I have

01:16:19   ideas for standalone videos that I will

01:16:21   make in the future but it's just nothing

01:16:23   that I want to necessarily start on

01:16:25   right now and every now and then I get

01:16:28   something that pops into my head around

01:16:29   like that might be a fun thing to make a

01:16:31   video about and so it like just gets

01:16:32   locked away and I'll talk about it later

01:16:34   and one of it I mean and it's maybe

01:16:36   sounds kind of sounds weird but I'm

01:16:38   happy that I have put as much time into

01:16:42   talking about this on this show as I

01:16:44   have because I die I follow a lot of

01:16:49   people that are successful and talk

01:16:50   about their successes and the things

01:16:52   that they're doing the things that they

01:16:53   don't this has clearly been a failure in

01:16:56   what I attempted to start with like

01:16:59   where I am when I was talking about this

01:17:01   doing this project to where I am now

01:17:03   like I have failed to achieve what I was

01:17:06   hoping to achieve from this and it was

01:17:08   because my feelings towards it changed

01:17:10   so I'm happy to share that as a thing to

01:17:13   say like this is something that happens

01:17:15   to everyone you start a project and it

01:17:18   just doesn't go the way that you want

01:17:20   and that is totally fine for you to then

01:17:23   just move away from it and I feel I

01:17:24   actually feel better having moved away

01:17:27   because all of the time it's like oh but

01:17:29   I started this thing and if it doesn't

01:17:30   work out and I stopped doing it like how

01:17:33   does that look like I look like I kind

01:17:35   of failed or like I look like hey I

01:17:37   couldn't do it but I feel better being

01:17:40   comfortable in saying that it's done

01:17:42   like I'm not gonna attempt to try and

01:17:44   push this further than it needs to go

01:17:46   because I've always I'm just gonna hey

01:17:49   and I don't hate it and it means that I

01:17:51   can still come back to making some

01:17:52   videos when I want to but I didn't suck

01:17:54   everything out of it and I'm kind of

01:17:57   happy to share that

01:17:58   yeah and killing projects is a vital

01:18:02   skill okay if you can't do it then Yin

01:18:05   you could never do anything right

01:18:06   because you're just dragging along these

01:18:09   old projects behind you all the time

01:18:10   when I look at my younger self I think a

01:18:14   skill that he was not so great at was

01:18:17   killing projects and yeah it's like that

01:18:21   that's one thing if I was if it was to

01:18:23   go back in time and try to advise my

01:18:25   younger self about like how'd it get

01:18:27   what he wants out of the world faster

01:18:29   what one of the things would definitely

01:18:31   be hey buddy let's go through your list

01:18:34   of things and let's decide that some of

01:18:36   these are over sooner let's do that

01:18:39   because it frees up your energy and time

01:18:41   for other things yep

01:18:43   like for me talking about it here

01:18:45   nothing has changed because I am I'm

01:18:49   making the same amount of videos as I've

01:18:51   been making the last few months which is

01:18:53   none mm-hmm but now I am addressing it

01:18:56   mm-hmm

01:18:57   right like nothing's nothing's different

01:18:58   like I'm not making more or less videos

01:19:00   but I am now addressing the fact that

01:19:02   don't expect them and kind of I feel I

01:19:05   feel relief in that just like well now

01:19:08   nobody's expecting the vlogs because I

01:19:09   told you never to expect the vlogs

01:19:11   expect that there will be YouTube videos

01:19:13   sometime in the future but don't expect

01:19:15   them to come anytime soon and or to be

01:19:17   anything that you expect them to be the

01:19:22   Mike Hurley channel is just gonna be

01:19:24   your your channel of what you want it to

01:19:26   be whatever I ends up being whatever

01:19:29   that is a man so you can take up the

01:19:32   mantle now you can be the vlogger yeah I

01:19:35   know I never put it down like if I could

01:19:40   give past me some advice that would have

01:19:43   saved him some time which is ablator

01:19:44   when you were talking about it would

01:19:46   certainly be hey shoot less footage when

01:19:53   you sit down and you've got four weeks

01:19:56   worth of vlog footage like but that will

01:19:58   kill a vlog I tell you that right now

01:20:00   yeah yeah that's as one of the many

01:20:04   reasons there's been delays like boy

01:20:06   don't don't capture everything you'll

01:20:09   regret it

01:20:11   it's a next episode we're gonna do

01:20:14   something we've never done before we're

01:20:15   gonna watch a documentary mm-hmm and

01:20:19   talk about it in kind of the vein of

01:20:20   cortex book club so it's kind of a book

01:20:22   club but a documentary like oh like a

01:20:25   documentary club for work sure that's

01:20:29   the working title we'll go with that one

01:20:31   the cortex documentary Club for work

01:20:33   there is a documentary about the team

01:20:36   behind South Park called six days to air

01:20:39   this documentary I've seen a couple of

01:20:42   times and I thought it would be

01:20:43   interesting to bring to the table

01:20:44   because these are people who create an

01:20:47   episode of a TV show within six days

01:20:51   every week so they create a weekly show

01:20:54   and every episode is creative in six

01:20:56   days and it is interesting to watch a

01:20:59   team work under this incredible deadline

01:21:01   pressure that I thought it could be

01:21:03   interesting to talk about on the show

01:21:04   now it is worth noting at this point

01:21:07   this is a documentary about the TV show

01:21:10   South Park so it includes clips of South

01:21:13   Park episodes and lots of South Park

01:21:17   humor which can be very questionable and

01:21:21   awkward in some places so I say and I'm

01:21:26   like it's not that the humor is

01:21:27   questionable there's no question that it

01:21:30   can be quite vulgar there you go that's

01:21:32   a lovely way of putting it yes it is

01:21:34   tasteless like is this funny or not like

01:21:38   that's not the question yes yeah the

01:21:41   question is more what you want to see it

01:21:45   so you probably know at this point if

01:21:47   this is something you want to watch like

01:21:49   if you don't know South Park I recommend

01:21:52   not watching it if you know you don't

01:21:54   like South Park I recommend not watching

01:21:56   it we're gonna take a look at how the

01:21:58   team works and just talk about that

01:22:01   we're not gonna talk about the content

01:22:03   too much because it's not important for

01:22:05   the overall discussion yeah this is this

01:22:08   is just a thing that has been on our

01:22:09   list for a long time when you first

01:22:11   mentioned it and I have wanted to see

01:22:14   for quite a while because I think the

01:22:16   the two guys behind South Park are

01:22:19   uniquely prolific and they also from

01:22:24   what I have gleamed they work in very

01:22:28   different ways and they have also had

01:22:31   careers over now a fantastically long

01:22:36   period of time yeah so I think that like

01:22:39   that they are at the intersection of a

01:22:41   bunch of things that I'm interested to

01:22:44   see a documentary about how they're

01:22:48   working so ever since you mentioned to

01:22:50   me that this thing existed I have wanted

01:22:52   to to see it but but yeah so just to be

01:22:54   clear like our interest in seeing this

01:22:56   is how do they work it's not really a

01:23:00   conversation about like what do we think

01:23:02   about South Park because I think people

01:23:04   already know what they think about South

01:23:06   Park

01:23:07   yeah you either like it or you don't

01:23:08   like it and there are probably extremely

01:23:10   good reasons for both depending on your

01:23:12   opinions I will say that I don't really

01:23:16   like South Park I kind of never have

01:23:20   isn't something that I have been that

01:23:23   interested in but the documentary is

01:23:25   very good we are going to talk about it

01:23:27   like we talked about the books so you

01:23:29   don't have to watch this too young I

01:23:32   understand what we're gonna talk about

01:23:33   so you don't need to watch it I want to

01:23:35   tell people that we are watching it in

01:23:37   case you do want to watch it but this

01:23:39   comes with all of the warnings we could

01:23:41   possibly give for such a explicit

01:23:44   documentary because it's got South Park

01:23:46   in it so there you go that's that's a

01:23:47   website six days to air is what it's

01:23:49   called and we'll talk about it next time

01:23:51   see you next time