Cortex 63: Flower Garden


  did you buy an iMac Pro why do you ask

  like I just want to know I did buy an

  iMac Pro hey isn't it right now no I'm


  oh I'm not using it right now do you

  have it I do have it okay it's a

  complicated story Mike have you ever

  used it I can't that way you would put

  it cuz I assume you're at home right now

  I mean you never know where I am when

  I'm recording like I never really know

  where you are that is true I am often

  surprised wherever you are we have a

  topic that will lead into this in some

  sense but now I do have an iMac Pro I

  have used the iMac Pro I am in London

  recording with you but I am not

  currently using that I Mac Pro so it is

  it is elsewhere at this moment do you

  like pretty great okay pretty great okay

  it is nice to have a computer that's

  super fast and it's also nice too

  because when we were in that valley of

  darkness with Apple for a while I had

  this feeling of like Oh Apple let me

  just throw some money at you so I can

  get a faster computer like just you name

  a number and I'll write you a check

  Apple I just need a faster computer and

  it is nice that now with the iMac Pro in

  a way Apple has called the bluff unlike

  just write a check because it's like

  Apple can ask for a check that I am not

  willing to write you know it's it's

  really nice that there exists a computer

  where you have to make decisions about

  like what is it that you actually want

  out of this machine because it means

  that the theoretical maximum computing

  threshold is beyond you it's not where

  you currently are right now like I

  really hated that feeling of I have the

  fastest computer there's no faster

  computer that I can possibly buy and

  it's not fast enough so yeah my pro is

  is very fast there are some crazy

  configurations out there that make it

  super expensive I did not go for the

  super crazy expensive

  I might pro configurations but I got a

  good one and it is very impressive I

  really like it and of course

  when you get a new computer how do you

  test it out well you gotta load up a

  game and see how the game plays and so

  of course as soon as the computer was

  set up the very first thing that I put

  on it was American Truck Simulator so I

  could get a real sense of how was how

  did it run did it run good

  it was beautiful Mike oh yeah this it

  was absolutely beautiful so I was just

  thinking about like what do you what do

  you use it for I like what what is your

  use for such a powerful machine and I

  was gonna make a joke about like what

  are you some kind of pro video producer

  having completely forgot that you make

  youtube videos was like what do you need

  it for you just edit podcasts what are

  you and you don't even do all the

  editing though what do you need it for

  seriously I was gonna make a joke about

  you being mkbhd or something making

  YouTube videos turns out you do make

  youtube videos so I understand what you

  might want it because I assign oh that

  like a lot of the stuff that you're

  doing video you can always throw more

  power at it right and I I would assume

  that's why one of the reasons you bought

  the machine was because it can just make

  your video process a lot nicer because

  it turns out you do make those YouTube

  videos yeah I do I do make youtube

  videos there are a number of it's easy

  it's easy to forget I mean there are so

  many things that I do Mike yeah yeah my

  professional biography is long very long

  includes very many full of projects of

  secret and public nature yeah many

  things but faster computer is great and

  with YouTube videos and with lots of

  other stuff the the increased power

  makes a real difference even for things

  just like if I'm making the the YouTube

  videos for podcasts that are being

  uploaded like you're uploading a two and

  a half hour video like exporting that

  kind of thing takes a long time it takes

  a very long time

  I am always surprised at one how long it

  is and to how big the files are when

  it's just like a static image and two

  hours of audio it's like oh here's here

  is a nine gigabyte file oh uh final cut

  what are you doing but I guess yeah

  that's it is what is what

  it is right yeah it is it is what it is

  but I've got to say it's it's really

  it's really impressive machine and it

  does for an American Truck Simulator

  pretty great on there I put on a little

  steam overlay to see how many frames per

  second I was getting and it was very

  impressive but on a on a more practical

  level I loaded up one of the one of the

  files I've made reference to a few times

  on the show like these multi terabyte

  Final Cut Pro projects that I have and

  the thing that I wanted to so Final Cut

  has this feature where it does

  background rendering when you open up a

  project and that is always a thing that

  takes absolutely forever but Final Cut

  has been updated to take advantage of

  multi-core machines and so I uploaded

  the biggest final cut project I could

  find on my computer and I just wanted to

  see how it handled it and it was just

  astounding to see these multiple cores

  just tear through the background

  rendering like it was nothing

  whoa this is this is really impressive

  and it is one of these cases where the

  machine makes you very aware of what

  programs take advantage of multiple

  cores and what programs do not take

  advantage of multiple cores because the

  things that have been written to take

  advantage of multiple cores it's just

  it's such an incredible increase in

  speed that it's it's really just

  fantastic so I love the machine it is

  great I'm glad that Apple has made a

  like a real top-end computer again so

  I'm I'm really pleased with it and it

  comes in space grey mm-hmm it looks

  great looks looks great no more stupid

  aluminum well he's still aluminum or

  aluminium yeah yeah for that the

  aluminum color wash I can't believe I

  said that it's like you spend too much

  time podcasting Americans yeah I presume

  that you are not going to get one of the

  iMac pros I don't need it I don't I

  don't need it and I don't particularly

  want it it's more computer than I

  require for what I'm doing it would make

  some things quicker but honestly I don't

  do a lot

  that stuff very often like noise removal

  and they're like some of the most

  intensive tasks that you can do in audio

  editing is like doing something to

  improve the quality of the audio but by

  and large the majority of people that I

  record with are in stable environments

  that don't really require a lot of work

  to be done to them so honestly I'm good

  and all of my wait time my workflow is

  pretty optimized at this point so that

  if I'm waiting for something to export

  I'm doing something else I cannot

  twiddling my thumb's I've got um you

  know I published so many podcasts now

  that I have my routine and I'm never

  sitting I'm waiting for my iMac to do

  something yeah so the iMac Pro doesn't

  make sense to me I am personally holding

  out to see whatever the Mac Pro looks

  like the the purpose of buying a machine

  that will last me 10 years if the Mac

  Pro is as modular as I hope it's going

  to be that it will truly be able to

  replace and upgrade parts over a long

  period of time if that seems like that

  is a possibility that maybe the next

  machine that I buy

  I'm just less interested in exciting

  Mac's now right like Mike of like five

  years ago probably would have bought the

  iMac Pro because it's the newest and

  most exciting Mac I don't really have

  that feeling anymore it's you know

  obviously the iOS is where my excitement

  is so I am keen to own a machine that I

  can upgrade over a long period of time

  for a smaller amount of money than

  buying a new computer every three years

  to try and keep up with the latest and

  greatest so that that's kind of where my

  attention is a little bit more now as

  exceeding what the Mac Pro looks like

  but I have no I have no desire need to

  do anything about my Mac setup right now

  because I have an iMac 5k which I've had

  for like maybe I eighteen months or

  something like that and it feels as fast

  to me as today I bought it like I have

  no problem with this machine this

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  want to know where the I might pro is

  and this this gets us this gets us

  straight to the heart of the first topic

  that I wanted to talk about I'm kind of

  chose I wanted to give a little bit of

  an update on the year

  of order and how that's going you need

  to put more I feel like I need to add a

  sound effect every time you say it like

  no clack or like you know like modulate

  the voice a little bit just leave it

  just like I've no need for that I think

  I think people can hear like the capital

  o in order I think that I think that

  comes across they can hear that in their

  mouth there's no need for it of course

  there's no need for it

  you know yeah so so I haven't I have an

  idea with the show this year to check in

  a little bit more regularly about what's

  going on with the year of order and that

  partly because I was really aware last

  year that we didn't touch in very often

  on what was going with the year of

  redirection slash chaos and that was

  partly because a lot of the things that

  were going on there it didn't make sense

  to talk about on the podcast chaos I

  mean how do you check in on chaos yeah

  and that was the other thing it was

  chaos it would have been very hard at

  any particular point to have a

  meaningful conversation about what was

  going on during that because there's

  like it just was just less structured

  but the year of order that lends itself

  to that yeah I think we spent more time

  talking about my year theme right

  because yeah there was stuff going on

  like hiring people yeah it made more

  sense handing over tasks right there

  were things that I could kind of point

  to as a thing to make a difference in my

  year where yours was a little bit more

  ad hoc I think yeah it was going yeah

  without a doubt

  and so I so so I like the idea of

  checking in more regularly I also like

  the idea that to go along with the theme

  itself knowing that we'll check in

  regularly on the podcast is a kind of

  structure and structures belong in the

  year of order would you say a structure

  is kind of like a schedule it's kind of

  like a schedule but schedules are a

  different sort of thing Mike I don't

  like schedule is like structure

  structure I like shed structure teen

  these are good things

  routine schedules deadlines know thumbs

  down routine yes it's a highly different

  like I like jus dates no deadlines

  yeah it's subtle you know there's like

  it's like a subtle difference of flavor

  but it's there you know and it when

  you're really highly attuned to these

  sorts of things so so here's an idea for

  this this first check-in which is I have

  I have this real feeling like the year

  of order is going to be a very big

  intensive long project because there's a

  lot of stuff that I want to do and I'm

  already sort of breaking it down and the

  first the first part of this that I

  realized works out really well in in the

  beginning of the year for a bunch of

  things is the idea of setting up my

  physical space that there's a lot when I

  think about like how do I work what are

  the environments in which I work that

  over the last year again we're sort of

  thrown into chaos for a variety of

  reasons and because of because of a

  bunch of my thoughts about like the ways

  people work or how people can work

  effectively I really think that the

  environment in which you work is this

  real foundation upon which everything

  else rests and so here I mean the

  physical environment that you are in so

  I've decided that this is as the winter

  season draws to a close this is my my

  focus like before winter ends I want to

  have redone the physical spaces in which

  I work so this is this is like project

  one for the year of order and it happens

  to work out well that this is the first

  thing that I want to do because while

  ultimately I want to be really back into

  a like a solid working routine there's

  still some stuff in my life right now

  that's like leftover from the previous

  year of redirects and slash chaos that's

  going to be with me for a while so it's

  like I can't start on the really heavy

  routine stuff just yet so I'm going to

  be working on this foundational part as

  at the beginning so which physical space

  are we talking which of your many

  offices are we talking about here

  or all of them okay Mike I have a

  diagram for you I'm gonna sell you a

  little diagram take a look at okay okay

  oh my this is very messy yeah just to be

  clear and I'm happy to put this in the

  show notes just yesterday I was having a

  multiple flights in the same day day

  which is always great what many more

  travel racking up those airline miles

  you know keep my golden ticket just as

  fun so while I was on the flight I was

  trying to I was trying to use that time

  well cuz like airplane timers is a

  strange time and one of the things that

  I do find is useful to do with that time

  is thinking about stuff on a like a

  higher level or just brainstorming or

  doing those sorts of things so what I

  did was I brought my iPad with me on the

  trip and opened up good old good notes

  and what I decided to do was a thing

  that I had mentioned I think related to

  one of the ask cortex questions last

  time which was I started to draw out

  what are the different devices in my

  life and what do I want to use them for

  and then this this ended up becoming

  much more along the ideas of okay how am

  I going to set up the physical spaces in

  my life so there's there's two things in

  this in this very messy diagram but I

  have the idea of there are some devices

  so it's like I have my iPhone I have the

  new iMac Pro I have a laptop I have

  iPads like I have machines like what are

  what are each of these machines for and

  then also trying to overlap that with

  the idea of I have different physical

  spaces in which I can be which devices

  belong where right which devices go

  where so the the main thing here is I

  feel like there's three spaces I have a

  home office which is where I am right

  now in my apartment I have the glass


  that we have discussed previously which

  is in a separate building from where I

  am now and then I think of it doesn't

  quite make sense maybe to people but I

  do think of my phone as a kind of

  omnipresent space that that this is a

  device and a space that is just with me

  all of the time wherever I am so it has

  it has like overlap with other areas so

  this is this is the division like

  thinking about how is my phone going to

  work and then thinking about what is

  going to happen in my home office what

  is going to happen in the glass cube and

  then also in the in and because I was on

  a plane thinking about since my travel

  does not seem to be decreasing over the

  next year thinking a little bit about

  what does my mobile working space look

  like and trying to draw out what devices

  do what where how does this diagram look

  to you Mike I have a lot of questions

  about this diagram okay why don't you

  start with some questions because

  otherwise I will just talk forever in a

  vague way so let me know what is

  confusing to you about this diagram yeah

  I want to go down from the top so we

  have the phone morning and afternoon are

  they the same device just wanted to stop

  a check they paid to different devices

  yes I have one phone one phone using my

  iPhone okay but I made I made a little

  division about the device is different

  in the morning and it's different in the

  afternoon about what what should it do

  or what should I be doing right device

  at these times but there isn't anything

  that you're doing to really restrict

  what the device does right because you

  kind of can't do that this is more of a

  mental thing there's two parts here it

  is a bit of a mental thing because

  Apple's notification system is terrible

  and is not very good compared to the

  competition but there is a physical

  thing that is happening that I'm still

  using the system we've discussed before

  where I have two different Apple watches

  and this is my way that's what the s2

  and the s3 is that's that's Mike that

  was my next question

  yeah as Apple watch series two and apple

  watch series three okay

  correct that you can you can with two

  watches kind of fake door trick the

  iPhone into having different sorts of

  behaviors because you can turn on

  different notifications for different

  applications on each watch independently

  right right that that's correct so the

  idea is in the morning with my series to

  watch the only kinds of notifications

  that we'll get through our notifications

  from myself to myself so these are

  things like I have started a timer and I

  want a notification about when that

  timer ends or if there's a calendar

  event that I put on the calendar

  previously that I will have forgotten

  about in that morning or things like

  alerts from task managers right those

  are the only sorts of things that should

  get through the device through my phone

  in the morning and the only way I can do

  it is to say that the phone is totally

  silent the phone does no notifications

  but the series to watch is configured to

  just allow notifications from those

  three classes of device okay and then I

  can see the afternoon is when you allow

  people to contact you you've got

  iMessage and slack but still no email

  outgoing email only is yeah I get that I

  get that I underst I'm een sure I

  couldn't work on would never work that

  way but I know that you have in the past

  so I understand I get that I can't get

  what's going on here your business I

  think many people's businesses would

  totally fall apart without more frequent

  contact with email yeah but but yeah

  with for me by far and away the two

  biggest things that disrupt my life but

  that I still do need to pay attention to

  are iMessage and slack and and those are

  the things where it's like man if I get

  a like a slack message in the morning it

  can really derail the day where I start

  thinking about a thing that doesn't

  really need to be thought about now but

  so in the afternoon when I swap watches

  then the messages from my message and

  slack can get through and it is just it

  is simply I did try for a little while

  to do not even have slack on my phone

  but it it's that cross

  a line of like the convenience of having

  all of my business related messaging on

  the phone is just too great to remove it

  from the phone because removing it from

  the phone then turns me into an

  incredible bottleneck where lots of

  things that just require my approval or

  like one one sentence of input like then

  this suddenly becomes a multi-day

  process about like when have I opened up

  slack on my computer so I I have it as

  this case it's like in the afternoons

  that's what I'm gonna get notifications

  from my message and from slack and I'm

  managing that by swapping out the

  watch's slack is too important like you

  make it that right like you know I have

  I know you have we spoke about it in the

  past right you end up eventually because

  you think it's great right like it's

  great it's a great system you end up

  putting too much stuff into it and

  therefore you make it too important and

  you've just moved the stuff it's still

  better than email but it's it still just

  becomes a big bucket of responsibilities

  yeah I definitely still have cooked very

  conflicted feelings about slack in a way

  that I didn't when I first started it

  but the big difference there is like for

  for my company slack and the slacks of

  other companies that I'm involved with

  they are fundamentally there's still

  invitation-only systems so unlike email

  where anybody in the whole world sending

  messages and like stuff can come in from

  all over the place

  sure slack is still kind of an

  overwhelming mess but at least it has a

  clearly defined perimeter it's like

  people you know you want to hear from

  before you've heard from them exactly

  yeah that that's that's what's happening

  there and it is also again like a

  limited a more limited section of people

  I have frequent work contact with as

  well whereas as email is just it's just

  too expansive and so yeah as as you can

  see from my note there I do have it set

  up on my phone I have a special email

  account that just allows me to send

  messages out if for some reason I need

  to send a message from my phone

  it's a gmail account that I set up and

  all that gmail account has is a single

  rule that all messages it receives it

  forwards on to my real

  lecounte so I can deal with them at like

  a right my desktop computer but I can

  still send a message from an email

  address that's like gray is just using

  his phone and won't actually be able to

  reply from this email address at right like that's the answer

  and I'm assuming that there is a very

  limited amount of people that get email

  from that account just by the nature of

  its the way it's set up right I use it

  more than you might think but it's still

  not a lot I mean I imagine you using it

  a lot but I can't imagine it is a very

  large group of people because yeah you

  don't know if you don't see what's

  coming in you don't know why you would

  need to contact someone so it's just

  something that pops into your head I

  would assume most of the time yeah what

  usually happens is exactly that a thing

  that pops into my head that I want to

  tell a person who is not in one of the

  slacks that I manage right like that's

  that's usually the the use case there

  and sounds like okay now I need to send

  an outgoing message to a person that I

  would not invite into the gray company

  slack because it doesn't make any sense

  because they're not actually involved in

  the company but I still need to send

  them a message so that's that's the way

  that works and and like I said what I

  what I'm trying to manage here is this

  idea that the phone is with me all the

  time yeah and so it is a kind of

  environment and what I'm really trying

  to optimize for here is the phone should

  be as minimally disruptive as possible

  and I have but part of all I was on fire

  gray industries corporate retreat for

  one I was doing some of the pre work for

  this I really went through my phone

  again and just uninstalled absolutely

  everything I could think of that wasn't

  totally vital no interesting I feel like

  I feel like I want to see that that's

  can I find it so interesting just how

  many apps are still on my phone when

  this comes up with people I find it

  interesting that it's like if we do

  phone comparisons I'm often like the

  weird I'm like a weird Luddite with the

  way I used my phone where it seems like

  it's so limited but then at the same

  time there's still something like a

  hundred apps on my phone I just think

  it's an interesting

  it's like an interesting commentary on

  modern life how vital and important this

  piece of technology is and that even

  what most people would regard as crazy

  bear minimal use is still still covers

  an incredible range of possible

  activities so I just I just find that

  it's like an interesting commentary on

  the modern world the largest section of

  this diagram is contained within the

  glass cube so I am naturally assuming

  that you're out of home office is where

  you're spending the majority of your

  work time now okay Mike let's get into

  this okay glass cube one of the things

  that I decided to do as part of the year

  of order was I have recently upgraded my

  glass cube so I've gotten a a bigger

  glass cube it's still the way to fix it

  kidnapped it's still it's still a glass

  cube it's still weird it still feels

  somehow like I'm working at Facebook

  during the day except with glass

  barriers it's very strange but I got a

  bigger space because of a bunch of

  things that I thought I want to to do

  with this space and I was trying to

  think very intentionally about like okay

  what am I gonna do here and what I have

  decided is that the the thing that makes

  the most sense is that the glass cube is

  is going to be it's going to be like a

  forge of creation that this is where the

  kind of work that I do in this space is

  going to be the creative work in in one

  way or another so there's a bunch of

  projects that prolate to this but one of

  the main things that I've done is I have

  taken one of my older computers and I

  have turned it into a dedicated writing

  station so the reason I got a bigger

  glass cube is because I wanted to fit

  not one but two desks into the space

  because one of those desks is going to

  be or I should say is because it's

  already set up now it

  is a standing desk that has a computer

  that is only used for writing and I've

  set it up sort of like the same idea

  with the phone like I want to pare this

  down to the minimum number of things

  required that writing computer is only

  going to have the three or four apps on

  it that I need to actually do the

  writing and it's gone so far as like the

  account that I log in on that computer

  it's not logged into iCloud I've set up

  things that I can do everything through

  Dropbox or separate thinking services so

  it's like that account has nothing on it

  really except Evernote and Ulysses as

  the two main programs that I need it's

  like here's research notes that I have

  and then here's the main program that I

  use for writing and so when I turn that

  thing on it's like these are the only

  apps that are here there's nothing else

  for you when you're standing at this

  desk this is what you're going to do end

  of story

  so that's that's part one of the glass

  cube what is that computer that computer

  is a 15-inch MacBook Pro that I've

  connected to some external monitors so

  that it's set up because it is what do

  you mean of course it is did you think

  it was going to be an iPad is that what

  you were asking well it was forever

  before and I don't know just like as a

  machine that is single purpose with just

  a couple of applications on that you can

  exact an external keyboard to I don't

  know whatever man whatever floats your

  boat so I'll tell I'll tell you

  something this is the sort of gets to a

  little bit of the things that are later

  on but one of the one of the like the

  meta themes of the year of order when I

  was trying to think about like setting

  up these physical spaces is it's kind of

  a funny thing that happened but a little

  while ago I bought myself a new backpack

  I was like wow look at this look at this

  great backpack this thing is fantastic

  and my backpack that I was using

  previously was a little rundown I

  thought yeah this needs a replacement

  let me get a new one I need to save

  future Mike okay

  please tell me the name of the backpack

  oh I don't know you can't just say like

  I've got an amazing backpack and then

  not then like you know me I'm just

  wondering filming the questions right

  like what's the backpack is it a link to

  the backpack I need to see the backpack

  it must have a name on it it must it

  must be a label something somewhere I've

  got it I've got it right here

  just look like there's a label I mean

  there's got to be something where did

  you get the backpack I don't know why

  would I remember where I got it did you

  buy it in a physical say like if did you

  buy I bought it online it looks like

  there's a pede that there's a PD written

  on it

  no it doesn't help me does it help if I

  say it's maybe the best backpack in the

  world I don't know but it's cool

  it has like a great you can hear it

  there's like these fancy metal clasps

  you can change the interior volume

  around it's fantastic whatever you know

  it's not whatever if you bought it on

  Amazon you can get the information no I

  didn't buy it on Amazon I bought it

  directly from the website we'll be

  knocking you mean you can open your

  email app and just type backpack into

  the search field I'll find it for you

  later Mike now you want though all right

  okay I just need this to be shown as

  testament to the fact that I tried I'm

  searching backpack I've got too many

  emails with the word backpack no but you

  know like Amazon is showing yeah there's

  nothing I type in backpack and I've got

  like a hundred emails here and I don't

  see anything that's obviously the

  receipt from the company do you think

  people will ask you gray about the

  backpack right I was going through ausco

  text questions today and there was

  somebody asking about our backpacks

  based upon like episode three right yeah

  that's that's what I'm thinking of it

  because at that point you didn't give

  the name of your backpack so I'm still

  getting those questions so you know I

  just you know I just need people to know

  that I tried together

  I found it I found it okay okay it's on

  the on the interior cover of the

  backpack by a company called peak design

  that's what it is okay thanks

  it's called the everyday backpack okay I

  got it yeah I think that's that's the he

  okay good yeah this is really good

  somehow I knew you were not gonna relax

  until I could know because I kind when I

  know my future I know what my future is

  you know any it was just full of like

  your future is fielding these questions

  yeah for forever yeah now I got it it

  does look like a really nice bag

  actually oh man yeah just a new bag I

  don't need another one but this looks

  like a really nice bag it is a really

  great bag I bought a Tom bin sign apps

  backpack by the way just so people don't

  ask what backpack I bought okay yeah

  there you go yeah it's it looks like it

  is ostensibly designed for cameras

  camera yeah exactly like camera

  professionals and that is like when I

  bought my original backpack and I made

  that comment about how I was looking

  into like what do runners use because I

  was trying to find the lightest backpack

  possible and I felt like Oh runners will

  use super light backpacks then I found

  what I really liked whose the same thing

  with this I was trying to think about

  equipment and I said surely there must

  be backpacks that like wedding

  photographers would use like what it

  what is the professional solution to

  this and that's how I stumbled upon this

  this bag yeah but so it is great however

  I bring all of this up because it was an

  interesting thing to realize that I got

  this backpack and I have hardly used it

  in the past several months of having it

  because I realize it's like wait a

  minute I didn't I didn't buy this

  backpack for me I bought this backpack

  for the me I used to be I used to be the

  person who spent all day wandering

  around the city in different mobile

  locations and working very mobile II

  like I haven't been that guy in a long


  and I've recognized that some of my

  habits have changed where I'm just much

  more in a smaller number of more

  permanent locations and so it was making

  me think very deliberately about my

  workspace and so one of the reasons that

  I did go with a Mac for my writing

  station is I was thinking about like I

  don't need to optimize this space for

  mobility they don't need to optimize

  this space for the situation where I'm

  gonna just grab that iPad I'm on my way

  out the door and I'm gonna use that one

  iPad as my writing iPad like I don't

  need to do that anymore instead what I

  can do is if you accept that this

  station is never going to be mobile you

  can optimize it in a different way and

  so one of the things that I can do is

  that laptop is actually powering two of

  the external 4k monitors from LG and I

  have them both in the vertical set up

  because one of the things that I really

  want to be able to do is see as much of

  the script as possible and so rotating a

  monitor to be in the vertical position

  is a really big bonus like it allows me

  to see so much more of what I'm working

  on and a lot of what I like about

  Ulysses allows you to like rearrange

  stuff it makes a lot of this way way

  easier and it just comes down to the

  case of like okay even if I wanted to

  use an iPad the biggest iPad they make

  is not as big as two 4k monitors so I've

  like I'm just gonna eat this and say I'm

  building this space to be a permanent

  space what is the ideal that I would

  want and that's what I would want two

  monitors one for script one for research

  and notes and I can just have them next

  to each other super big all the time and

  standing up and then the other desk has

  an iMac Pro that's where the iMac pro

  lives it lives on the second desk in the

  glass cube and this is like heavy

  project stuff including something called

  project golem which is just a great name

  it doesn't really matter what about the

  names we're good

  and that's the way you edit and produce

  stuff so yeah the second half of the

  cube it it's also like I'm trying to

  make spaces different so it's like the

  writing space is a standing up space

  because I always pace around anyway and

  then the I'm Mac Pro is a sitting down

  space in the same cube and yeah what

  what I've thinking of with this is again

  work that falls in some category of

  creative in a way so what I'm trying not

  to do there is administrative tasks of

  any kind what I'm trying to do is that

  queso like the podcast editing I would

  say is a kind of creative space that

  also benefits greatly from having the

  iMac Pro like it makes that much easier

  doing the vlog editing is the same kind

  of thing it's like this is creative work

  it also benefits from having a much more

  powerful computer because it's in the

  same physical location as the writing I

  do like to separate out when am i doing

  research for script versus when am I

  actually writing the script I try not to

  do both of those things at the same time

  so that I'm Mac Pro is also for research

  and then yes I don't want to talk about

  what the details of it are but I do have

  a new project this year that's that is

  sort of sort of thematically related to

  the year of order but I'm just gonna

  call it project Gollum for right now and

  we will say that it definitely requires

  a fast powerful computer for project

  Gollum so that is a thing that is

  underway that is also creative and is

  going to happen in this space what was

  that like a little West why am I the

  worst you just I'm trying to just I'm

  trying to describe for you my thinking

  process here about where these different

  spaces that's very good and then

  obviously the only you have an outlier

  right which is the podcast recording

  because really that should live in the

  glass cube thematically but from an

  audio sound space perspective

  cannot be ever recorded in space yeah

  this is this is where there's a couple

  of complex I actually the podcast to me

  are such a different kind of work they

  don't they don't feel creative in the

  same way like creatives not the best

  word for what I'm doing in the glass

  cube but it's just the category that's

  in my mind where's the podcasts are much

  more like you know they're like going

  out to a dinner with people you know

  where it's just intensely draining

  social work it feels like a very

  different kind of thing and so there are

  two good reasons to not have it be in

  the glass cube it feels to me one like

  that work is just a very different kind

  of work from everything else and

  secondly yes a glass cube and in the

  middle of like a Facebook style Open

  Office is an acoustically terrible

  environment but so one of the one of the

  other parts of like year of order is

  thinking a lot about what do I use my

  home office for and I'm really aware

  that in the past year my home office has

  become a kind of mess of ambiguity like

  what what happens here what sort of work

  is here what is this space for I've done

  a really bad job with that

  and so what I'm in the process of doing

  is again deciding very intentionally

  this is a if this is like a permanent

  space how can you best optimize this

  space for the kinds of tasks that you

  want to do in here and so yes I'm

  turning my home office into two things

  but the primary one is an audio

  recording studio so I will do all of the

  podcasts in my home office and that also

  means finally doing something like I'm

  going to be upgrading some of the audio

  equipment that I use finally even

  listeners mike has been bothering me

  about this for so long but but this is

  this is a great example though again of

  my current podcast recording setup I

  mean you know this it's optimized for

  mobility and flexibility that that's why

  I choose some of the equipment that I


  like I use the the road USB and team

  microphone which I totally love and it

  is a great super flexible microphone but

  I'm making this decision of okay if

  you're starting over and if this space

  is for this one task and all of the

  equipment in here is never going to move

  would you choose the equipment that

  you're currently using and the answer is

  no I would not choose this microphone

  under those circumstances so I feel like

  I have to have a conversation with our

  good friend Marco Arment about what to

  get because I am very out of my depth

  here oh I know what ya think I've

  already had a conversation with him so

  you're probably gonna end up exactly

  exactly what I have

  okay great do you want give me a preview

  what do you use mic no it's too much

  it's that's too much yeah I will put a

  link in the show notes to Marco Arment

  guide for podcast microphones because

  what I use is not good to tell people to

  use because it kind of gets into that

  area of you know you end up with small

  gains for a large cost right right yeah

  because I've been doing this for eight

  years and I've built up over time

  there's pointless to start where I am

  but yeah it's all included in that in

  that guide which you'll find in our show

  notes but that's also part of the like

  intentionally thinking about the kind of

  work that I do and recognizing that

  optimizing for mobility is not sensible

  and that I am in the same category as

  you if I obviously I don't do nearly as

  much audio work as you but I do enough

  that optimizing for small gains is a

  sensible thing to do and it's probably a

  thing I should have done a year ago yeah

  but like now now I'm just doing it now

  and the other thing that I'm going to be

  looking into is acoustic treatments for

  the room so that getting some of the

  noise reduction foam and other things

  put into this office

  I think this office is fine for that but

  it's not great and I know that I could

  make it better and that's again the same

  kind of thing of like does it make the

  audio five percent better maybe but

  I'm going to spend time on that under

  this umbrella of the year of order but

  right now my main focus

  my main focus has been setting up the

  glass cube and I've gotten the glass

  cube into what I think of as version 1.0

  where it's minimally functional but

  there's much more that I want to do and

  I'm really aware of like when people try

  to change it's very easy to try to

  change everything all at once

  and then you do everything terribly and

  I'm taking this like very limited small

  focus and so that's why I feel like

  right now I'm focusing on my just my

  physical space I'm not even trying to

  touch my routine or my health or any of

  these other things that I want to do

  it's like okay just focus on the

  physical space and then within that

  right now I am just focusing on the

  glass cube as the main area and so I'm

  gonna get that absolutely the way I want

  it to be it's like and then I will turn

  my full attention to the home office and

  what's going to happen is everything is

  in the home office is is coming out and

  then I'm going to just deliberately

  bring things back in or set up the new

  equipment but so it's like I'm trying to

  focus on the smallest possible piece

  each at a time but I can tell you all of

  my glass office cube neighbors they know

  who the who the weirdo on the floor is

  really fast it's like okay what are you

  doing now two desks hasn't seen that


  it does seem weird as two desks and it's

  one person but it was also just I had

  all just I had a lot of boxes coming in

  and coming in under short periods of

  time and there was there was a lot of

  activity going on and there's just a few

  things that make me like the office

  weirdo that I don't quite want to go

  into details much like I can people

  looking they're like that's that guy's

  that guy's the weird guy on the floor in

  that office what's he doing eventually

  you're gonna have to build that building

  because you're gonna be kicked out of

  every office space within the m25 I am

  aware that some of the stuff that I'm

  bringing to the glass cube like maybe

  this is not the final resting home of

  all of his stuff but I am mentally

  treating it as though I'm gonna be there

  for a long time

  even if when I do construct an office

  building of my own in May it may all be

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  so that those are like the two main

  things with the computer that I'm going

  to be using in my home office again I'm

  going to deliberately strip everything

  off of there that is not required for

  recording a podcast so I'm going to have

  a machine that the only thing it does is

  I turn it on and I record podcasts on it

  and then I save those files and they get

  synced to the cloud and that machine is

  used for literally nothing else because

  if there's one thing I have learned over

  the years of podcasting it's that audio

  recording is surprisingly fiddly and

  stuff just somehow changes even when

  you're doing other things on the machine

  that's incredibly frustrating so sorry

  I'm gonna have a machine that is

  untouched except for this one purpose

  and and that is going to be in my home

  office and all other software that is

  not necessary on that machine is going

  to be removed and it's again it's the

  same thing with like the iMac Pro in the

  glass cube it's very deliberate removal

  of all software that is not necessary

  for the vlog or for editing or for

  project Gollum like everything is coming

  off that is not required for those

  things I really like how you refer to

  the vlog when you've done what well

  maybe we can get back to this a little

  bit later but uh we can say that I'll

  just say now that on my we love we love

  recorded time for last year

  vlog stuff was a surprisingly big chunk

  of that time so even for me it is still

  a very active project even though I know

  to outside it seems like it's crazy

  right like nothing has happened so

  that's that still seems very active I

  have a very small update for the year of

  adulting one of my two themes I am now

  30 so I've completed task one which was

  to have my birthday and I've done that

  you've made it yeah happy birthday

  that's so that's that's point one thank

  you very much and I'm adding something

  in to the year I do not have a driving

  license I live in a big city

  so there are two things to this I tried

  to learn to drive when I was like 17 and

  I would spend 45 minutes once a week

  stuck in traffic which is not the best

  way to learn how to drive and then also

  I have I am afforded with fantastic

  travel in this city the public transport

  is wonderful but to think about some

  things that I want to do in my work and

  personal life over the next few years a

  car would be a great addition to that

  and would help facilitate a bunch of

  things so I am planning to get a driving

  license by the end of the year like

  after we get married at some point

  towards the end of the year I'm gonna

  take one of those like intensive courses

  things and get a driving license and get

  a little car that I intend to bump into

  some stuff and then I'm gonna have a car

  on a driving license so that's part of

  my other thing for my year of adulting

  that's very exciting I have a friend who

  she just went through that where she's

  never never drove and and as an adult

  got her driver's license you know and

  when you live in the city your whole

  life it's you know it's just like people

  who live in Manhattan all right there's

  no real need or more pressure to get a

  driver's license because public

  transport is fantastic and doubly so in

  the world of ride-sharing services la

  yeah it's you know it makes it even even

  less necessary but that'll be it'll be

  having an interesting and exciting

  project for you Mike yep because like

  one of the things that I want to do is

  eventually probably over in the next

  couple of years I want to get an office

  space outside of my home what we're

  where I am like in the kind of the area

  that I'm in I don't know where there

  would be any office spaces but I reckon

  that they would probably be like a

  10-minute Drive from home right and it

  would just be easier if I have my own

  car to deal with that mm-hmm right then

  then because I want to live I get I can

  easily imagine that as the situation for

  where you are yeah if you are going to

  have an office almost certainly it's

  going to be way easier to drive to that

  office because the other thing is like

  there are some places close to me where

  I could get a space but they're not

  gonna be ideal

  and I open myself up to many more

  opportunities if I have a car because I

  can then you know the catchment area for

  my studio space can grow significantly

  if my mobility is increased so that's

  kind of one that's one of the things I'm

  thinking of so this is that that is like

  a multi-year project which doesn't need

  to start but before I can do it I need

  to get I need to get a driving license

  to get a car yeah and the year of

  adulting seems like the perfect year to

  have that as a target mm-hmm

  we have a car parking space in our

  building that we own it just came with

  our apartment and it's in like an

  underground carpark type situation and I

  have no idea what the feasibility would

  be to try and convince the owners of the

  building to put a plug socket in there

  for me but I'm thinking it because like

  I've never owned a car why don't I just

  get an electric car right and just never

  owned a petrol car but if you're going

  to do that I would highly recommend

  making that technological leap my plan

  is to try and see if we can convince

  someone to allow us to get that put in

  because I just feel like if I'm gonna be

  buying a car in 2018 why even bother

  with petrol yeah I would agree with you

  100% so I mean I'm not we would you know

  there's like a pretty decent secondhand

  market for like Nissan Leafs and stuff

  like that right that we would probably

  get something like that but you know I

  have my mind that maybe in five years I

  buy a Tesla or something you know like

  when I can actually buy a real car

  because I'm not just gonna bump it into

  everything but I just figure why if it's

  possible for me to just go straight to

  electric because that's clearly the

  future why don't I just start with

  electric so that's like another long I'm

  sure very arduous project then I think

  the idea would probably take great

  enjoyment out of trying to win as

  something that she would enjoy great

  layers like a project for her to try and

  convince the building owners to allow us

  to put a plug in the car park we'll see

  how that one goes when you get your

  license you know

  you're legally required to go on at

  least one road trip oh yeah yeah this is

  like the whole thing we were talking

  about it yesterday there's like oh we

  can go on down to the coast and it's

  like yeah I think of all the places we

  can go we never go anywhere but think of

  all the places we could go

  well I wish you luck with that yeah

  that's some time on that one but it did

  occurred to me that that fits quite

  nicely in with the theme so Mike

  speaking of people who don't upload logs

  I haven't seen you upload a vlog in a

  very long time how's that going

  I've come to a decision about my

  vlogging experiment which I'm now

  calling an experiment in retrospect okay

  I was like wait a minute I don't

  remember this word before I'm sure I

  said it at some point

  alright so okay we're reading this I'm

  not recommending it one of the things

  that I did last year was in in essence I

  guess was a introduction to what it

  would be like to have a year of

  branching out was to try something new

  and create a YouTube channel and create

  vlog content for it that was the plan

  and I wanted to see what it would be

  like to start a vlog and what that would

  take and I've come to some conclusions

  about how I feel about being a vlogger I

  think that it is very clear that to get

  good and to get popular requires

  frequent uploading right like I think

  that that is in vlogging that seems to

  be something which helps success is to

  upload frequently whatever that ends up

  being like okay what is it what does

  that mean there's a big spectrum here I

  don't know I think at least at least

  once a week or a couple of times a week

  it would seem right these from the

  people that I follow that are primarily

  doing life stylish vlogging stipe stuff

  there is very current uploading to that

  and I have a couple of issues that have

  precluded me from being able to do that

  one is the amount of time that I

  actually have to put into another

  creative project

  and really I don't have it I don't have

  the time in my life to create two

  YouTube videos a week or one a week even

  it's just not a thing that I can do well

  if I remember your original goal was one

  a month wasn't it it wasn't that sort of

  roughly what you were aiming yeah it was

  okay so you're saying this is the

  combination of if this thing is going to

  be successful it probably needs to be at

  least once a week yes and that that

  energy is just beyond the amount that

  you have to spend in a week yep

  especially with the the upcoming big

  project exactly but the thing is one of

  the problems that I had was one of the

  problems that I had with doing stuff on

  a more frequent basis it's not even just

  time it is content like what do I make


  well Mike the the viewers they wanted to

  see what a normal day in Mike's life is

  like you think you want to see it but

  like I'm telling you you don't it's so


  yeah everybody thinks they want to see

  it but it's actually super boring you

  would hand just trust me like you would

  hate it how would you describe what a

  normal day actually looks like for you

  my sitting down sitting down in front of

  a computer what are you doing clicking

  oh well let the stuff that anybody wants

  to see is just different places that I

  sit down

  right right how many of those places

  even are there Tori yeah exactly the

  thing is is I don't have enough to give

  from a Content perspective because I

  make so much already so all of the

  things I have to say I've already said

  them right like so I was thinking

  something that I see from the vloggers

  that that I like is about half of the

  content at least that they make tends to

  be them talking to the camera about a

  thing yeah in a broad way a lot of it

  could be classified as opinion pieces

  yeah but I have no extra opinions than

  the ones that I give on all of the shows

  that I make right so that

  that became apparent to me really

  quickly the eye burns

  quickly the eye burns

  through my topic ideas within like three

  months they're all gone and typically we

  have a creative project that I have that

  is not the case

  that I will hang on to topics for a long

  time because they're in the initial list

  that I create hasn't foreseen all of the

  other things that might come to me


  but they didn't nothing really came to

  me and they have a big thing is that I

  realized that I would lose too much of

  my private life if I decided that I

  wanted to do this more frequently

  because if I don't have topics to sit in

  front of the cameras to talk about all I

  can do is show more of my life right and

  I decided that I'm comfortable with the

  amount that I already show and that the

  things that I don't talk about and the

  things that people don't know about is

  for a reason

  mm-hm and if I vlog more I would lose

  all of it far too frequently something

  that I see with the vloggers that I like

  to watch is that you see in their videos

  they spend time with colleagues and

  friends who were also vloggers right and

  you see these scenes where it's like

  five people each talking into a camera

  and I I don't I don't want to put my

  friends and family in those types of

  situations because my friends and family

  don't do this and I don't want to

  subject everything about my life and all

  of the people in it to the world like

  podcasting what I do right now it's

  fixed like I'm in my studio and I talk

  about what I want to talk about but

  vlogging shows more of everything in a

  direct way like people and places and

  like bad hair days like you see

  everything yeah there's a world of

  difference between you talking about

  Idina on

  podcast and you filming Idina to put in

  your vlog that there's a way that that

  turns it into oh I'm not just relaying a

  thing where the original person is not

  involved when yeah how to put it but

  like when vloggers are filming their

  family they are pretty explicitly

  requesting a performance of their family

  you exactly yeah like that that is what

  is happening and it's the same thing

  that happens if you're friends with

  someone who is vlogging they are even if

  you're just sort of in the background

  now there's like an implicit request

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  really notice have noticed it when I

  have blog trips that I've taken that

  people are very aware like if I'm doing

  anything with my phone they think that

  I'm filming booth and like people make

  these like jokey comments but they're

  really just checking when we were in

  WWDC I saw a bunch of this and I was I

  was aware of that with you where people

  were making comments to you where

  they're like are you vlogging this right

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  just come to realize that the life that

  I have right now doesn't fit this if I

  want to do this I have to make changes

  to my life and I've come to kind of come

  to the conclusion that I don't want to

  be a vlogger like I've just come to I

  don't want to pursue it to try and

  become this thing because I think I

  might lose too much of what I currently

  have unlike it would disrupt everything

  in a way that I may be not comfortable


  and I I don't want to never do them

  because there are vlogs that I know I

  will be able to make about travel where

  it's mostly just me and I still want to

  make those because I actually really

  enjoy that but I have no intention of

  continuing to make this a serious thing

  like there are other types of

  technology-based videos that I want to

  do and I still want to make those I want

  to do more game streaming as a thing

  because I like doing that it's

  relatively low amount of input for the

  output mm-hmm but yeah as far as

  vlogging goes I'm not I'm not a vlogger

  and I'm not gonna be like yeah I mean

  there is a way in which from my limited

  experience with it but also just from

  knowing and seeing people who are really

  in that industry that how can I put this

  in a nice way but I think for people who

  are vlogging constantly it is like

  strip-mining their life where everything

  they're doing is seen through the lens

  of how this can be presented to the

  outside world and I think there's a long

  tradition of people who are vloggers on

  YouTube who do very frequent multi multi

  times a week content who you can just

  see them burn out and so there is no

  shortage of videos on YouTube where a

  vlogger who has been very prolific says

  hey I need to step away from this for a

  while because it's just emptied out

  lines of her life well is there's

  actually two ways you burn out when you

  flame out right it's either you've

  you've had enough or you push it too far

  and there's equal amount of videos of

  people doing something for the vlog

  which was too much right and and I have

  no desire to go in either of those

  journeys in my life yeah well and

  there's also the thing that I think

  people you know if anybody out there is

  like like oh I want to be a vlogger well

  also that this thing you just probably

  don't think about very much but there's

  a question of how many how much hmm I

  never quite know how to phrase this but

  it's like um you know it's like your

  life is a garden and things in the

  garden grow slowly and vlogging is like

  you're trying to harvest flowers out of

  the garden every single day mm-hmm it's

  like well that just can't happen there's

  it there's a question of like what is

  the frequency of which you can pull

  flowers out of this garden but they

  don't make flowers every day flowers

  take a while and you know like we

  discussed last time I went through my

  own little version of this and that was

  part of what the year of redirection was

  was just recognizing like I'm I'm doing

  podcasts that are largely about my life

  in some ways as like the frequency is

  just a little too high that it feels

  like I'm coming back to this garden to

  pull flowers too often so I need to pull

  it back just a little bit and when

  people are doing daily vlogs it's like

  you are ripping all of the flowers out

  of this garden and I think it's why when

  I think it's why there there's two

  things that happen very frequently with

  the vlogs is that they become or people

  who do successful vlogs have a

  disproportionate amount of travel in

  their life because travel is a way like

  getting flowers out of another garden

  like you're going somewhere you're doing

  something and then especially lately

  what has been a trend on on youtube I

  think is manufactured stunts for the

  vlogs so you you're now you're not

  really vlogging your daily life it's

  much more like you're putting together a

  TV show oh you have to yeah and so now

  you're artificially constructing things

  nobody's life is interesting enough like

  yeah you have to create situations and

  that was something that I've realized

  quickly like I started vlogging at a

  time in my life that was very

  interesting yeah we discussed it that

  you were very aware that there was a

  bunch of stuff going on in your life at

  that time and so if you were going to

  try this project that was the fertile

  time to do it

  yeah and it worked for me but then I

  realize oh but now it's normal daily

  life and every couple of months every

  six to eight weeks I'm going somewhere

  interesting and they're cool but what

  about all the other times and that was

  why I was struggling with once I moved

  into my house and built my office and

  did all of that stuff the really

  exciting time in my life was done and

  I'm moving into an exciting time now

  which is getting married but I have

  absolutely no desire to film any of that


  yeah and that's that's again that the

  the conflict of being like a private

  person who lives in public in a way is

  do you want to strip-mine your marriage

  this was one of the big reasons for me

  where I realized that maybe this wasn't

  for me it was like if I'm gonna if I'm

  gonna be a vlogger man I have a linen

  like how great a video type thing is

  that right to show your wedding to

  people but I realized I didn't want to

  do that yeah and there's also a way in

  which obviously I'm not really like a

  vlog of Locker but they're my most

  direct comparison to this of a thing

  where you realize something is changing

  the way you think is I mean now this is

  several years ago when I decided to take

  Twitter off of my phone but I realized

  it cleared up all of this mental space

  where there was some part of my brain

  that was constantly thinking oh is this

  a funny thing to tweet this this thought

  that just came into my brain is this a

  funny thing or I'm at someplace and like

  oh is there a picture I could I could

  put on Twitter at this place that I am

  and by removing Twitter from my phone

  and just took that away and then I'm

  just not thinking about that anymore

  but again it's like if you are going to

  be a successful vlogger you start

  thinking about everything in your life

  in those terms of is this for the vlog

  yeah right is this for the vlog and I

  feel like I need to make this super

  clear like this conversation is not

  based around the fact that oh if I

  decided to do this I would become a

  megastar like that's not what I'm

  thinking here when we talk about being


  it is me trying to attempt to get to a

  place where I might be in that position

  like I don't believe that if I made a


  every week for six months that I would

  be like the next Casey nice that but

  right because there's many people who

  make videos every exactly not but I

  can't unless I put the work in I could

  never get to anywhere unless I put the

  work in and I've just decided that I

  don't want to put the work in to even

  try and attempt to become someone who'd

  be considered a part of the bloggers and

  they're like as part of that work ya

  know the conversation here is not that

  you would be inevitably successful

  there's there's a lesson here for

  everyone who might want to be a vlogger

  which is that you can strip-mine your

  life for the public and still be

  unsuccessful as well and you get nothing

  right so that that was part of it was

  like I give up everything maybe get

  nothing back and it's like do I really

  want to take that risk and then one of

  the other big things for me which is a

  lesson that I will want to impart to

  anyone I was dreading the creation mmm

  that's a bad sign that's a really bad

  sign exactly so I would be like I'd have

  my toss come up to be like okay you've

  got to start working on a vlog like

  you're approaching the end of the month

  and I'd be like I don't want to do it

  for a project that's supposed to be a

  fun side project that's terrible nothing

  else that I do do I feel that way and if

  I ever start to feel that way of

  anything one of two things happens I

  ever change significantly the project or

  killer and I've always worked that way

  and I decide and when I came to the

  realization I was not enjoying thinking

  about necessarily being forced to make a

  video that was when I deleted the task

  right and that happened in the summer

  so the recurring task of create a vlog

  went away so then you will notice my

  frequency went down because then I only

  just started making vlogs about one they

  wanted to make vlogs about and then one

  of the bigger ones was when I was away

  for four weeks over the summer I

  recorded a bunch of vlog footage to

  create a huge vlog Alvin I got home and

  I had so much footage I didn't know what

  to do with it and then that was when I

  kind of decided that this probably isn't

  the thing for me I mean it's been an

  interesting experiment personally I'm

  kind of sad that you're not going to be

  vlogging frequently like obviously the

  writing was on the wall a little bit

  with this as the frequency dropped I did

  really enjoy your vlogs but I do I do

  think that you have still come out of

  this with you learn how to do a new

  thing and you have also established the

  existence of the mic early YouTube

  channel it is there whenever I want to

  do something with it yeah it's no longer

  the case of if you want to upload a

  youtube video you'd be starting from

  Ground Zero that you now have some

  inbuilt audience over there and it's

  like if if you feel like there is a

  video that you want to make that you

  feel compelled to make you have a place

  to put it and it has a place to start on

  YouTube with with some pre-existing

  audience that is already there I have

  ideas for standalone videos that I will

  make in the future but it's just nothing

  that I want to necessarily start on

  right now and every now and then I get

  something that pops into my head around

  like that might be a fun thing to make a

  video about and so it like just gets

  locked away and I'll talk about it later

  and one of it I mean and it's maybe

  sounds kind of sounds weird but I'm

  happy that I have put as much time into

  talking about this on this show as I

  have because I die I follow a lot of

  people that are successful and talk

  about their successes and the things

  that they're doing the things that they

  don't this has clearly been a failure in

  what I attempted to start with like

  where I am when I was talking about this

  doing this project to where I am now

  like I have failed to achieve what I was

  hoping to achieve from this and it was

  because my feelings towards it changed

  so I'm happy to share that as a thing to

  say like this is something that happens

  to everyone you start a project and it

  just doesn't go the way that you want

  and that is totally fine for you to then

  just move away from it and I feel I

  actually feel better having moved away

  because all of the time it's like oh but

  I started this thing and if it doesn't

  work out and I stopped doing it like how

  does that look like I look like I kind

  of failed or like I look like hey I

  couldn't do it but I feel better being

  comfortable in saying that it's done

  like I'm not gonna attempt to try and

  push this further than it needs to go

  because I've always I'm just gonna hey

  and I don't hate it and it means that I

  can still come back to making some

  videos when I want to but I didn't suck

  everything out of it and I'm kind of

  happy to share that

  yeah and killing projects is a vital

  skill okay if you can't do it then Yin

  you could never do anything right

  because you're just dragging along these

  old projects behind you all the time

  when I look at my younger self I think a

  skill that he was not so great at was

  killing projects and yeah it's like that

  that's one thing if I was if it was to

  go back in time and try to advise my

  younger self about like how'd it get

  what he wants out of the world faster

  what one of the things would definitely

  be hey buddy let's go through your list

  of things and let's decide that some of

  these are over sooner let's do that

  because it frees up your energy and time

  for other things yep

  like for me talking about it here

  nothing has changed because I am I'm

  making the same amount of videos as I've

  been making the last few months which is

  none mm-hmm but now I am addressing it


  right like nothing's nothing's different

  like I'm not making more or less videos

  but I am now addressing the fact that

  don't expect them and kind of I feel I

  feel relief in that just like well now

  nobody's expecting the vlogs because I

  told you never to expect the vlogs

  expect that there will be YouTube videos

  sometime in the future but don't expect

  them to come anytime soon and or to be

  anything that you expect them to be the

  Mike Hurley channel is just gonna be

  your your channel of what you want it to

  be whatever I ends up being whatever

  that is a man so you can take up the

  mantle now you can be the vlogger yeah I

  know I never put it down like if I could

  give past me some advice that would have

  saved him some time which is ablator

  when you were talking about it would

  certainly be hey shoot less footage when

  you sit down and you've got four weeks

  worth of vlog footage like but that will

  kill a vlog I tell you that right now

  yeah yeah that's as one of the many

  reasons there's been delays like boy

  don't don't capture everything you'll

  regret it

  it's a next episode we're gonna do

  something we've never done before we're

  gonna watch a documentary mm-hmm and

  talk about it in kind of the vein of

  cortex book club so it's kind of a book

  club but a documentary like oh like a

  documentary club for work sure that's

  the working title we'll go with that one

  the cortex documentary Club for work

  there is a documentary about the team

  behind South Park called six days to air

  this documentary I've seen a couple of

  times and I thought it would be

  interesting to bring to the table

  because these are people who create an

  episode of a TV show within six days

  every week so they create a weekly show

  and every episode is creative in six

  days and it is interesting to watch a

  team work under this incredible deadline

  pressure that I thought it could be

  interesting to talk about on the show

  now it is worth noting at this point

  this is a documentary about the TV show

  South Park so it includes clips of South

  Park episodes and lots of South Park

  humor which can be very questionable and

  awkward in some places so I say and I'm

  like it's not that the humor is

  questionable there's no question that it

  can be quite vulgar there you go that's

  a lovely way of putting it yes it is

  tasteless like is this funny or not like

  that's not the question yes yeah the

  question is more what you want to see it

  so you probably know at this point if

  this is something you want to watch like

  if you don't know South Park I recommend

  not watching it if you know you don't

  like South Park I recommend not watching

  it we're gonna take a look at how the

  team works and just talk about that

  we're not gonna talk about the content

  too much because it's not important for

  the overall discussion yeah this is this

  is just a thing that has been on our

  list for a long time when you first

  mentioned it and I have wanted to see

  for quite a while because I think the

  the two guys behind South Park are

  uniquely prolific and they also from

  what I have gleamed they work in very

  different ways and they have also had

  careers over now a fantastically long

  period of time yeah so I think that like

  that they are at the intersection of a

  bunch of things that I'm interested to

  see a documentary about how they're

  working so ever since you mentioned to

  me that this thing existed I have wanted

  to to see it but but yeah so just to be

  clear like our interest in seeing this

  is how do they work it's not really a

  conversation about like what do we think

  about South Park because I think people

  already know what they think about South


  yeah you either like it or you don't

  like it and there are probably extremely

  good reasons for both depending on your

  opinions I will say that I don't really

  like South Park I kind of never have

  isn't something that I have been that

  interested in but the documentary is

  very good we are going to talk about it

  like we talked about the books so you

  don't have to watch this too young I

  understand what we're gonna talk about

  so you don't need to watch it I want to

  tell people that we are watching it in

  case you do want to watch it but this

  comes with all of the warnings we could

  possibly give for such a explicit

  documentary because it's got South Park

  in it so there you go that's that's a

  website six days to air is what it's

  called and we'll talk about it next time

  see you next time