The Incomparable

144: Hangin` With the Totes


  the incomparable number 144 jun 2013 [TS]

  welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

  I'm your host Jason snail and in this [TS]

  episode we're going to be talking about [TS]

  another classic japanese animated film i [TS]

  think last year John siracusa and I [TS]

  spent some time talking about hayao [TS]

  miyazaki's wonderful kiki's delivery [TS]

  service and we're back to talk about his [TS]

  1988 film My Neighbor Totoro which was [TS]

  recently re-released in a beautiful [TS]

  blu-ray edition so that's our that's our [TS]

  hook that's our time we hook joining me [TS]

  because you know it around and it's the [TS]

  wave of the future it came out in 88 so [TS]

  that's not it [TS]

  so it's it's the blu-rays new the movie [TS]

  is old the blu-rays do and joining me [TS]

  you heard his voice there it is [TS]

  Steve let's hi Steve konichiwa Jason [TS]

  thank you do you have a lot of a [TS]

  background with the with this movie or [TS]

  did you just watch it for the podcast [TS]

  this is my first my first total role and [TS]

  my first miyazaki wow so I cast is over [TS]

  uh-huh i have lots of questions that [TS]

  Voice you heard as John siracusa who is [TS]

  of course here to talk about things that [TS]

  are animated and from Japan hi John [TS]

  thanks for coming back you know and i'll [TS]

  let the star trek episode i said i had a [TS]

  false memory of us doing an episode [TS]

  about the original reboot star wars star [TS]

  trek didn't we do an episode not just [TS]

  about Kiki but about all of miyazaki [TS]

  movies and we try to talk a little bit [TS]

  about each one arm i imagining that as [TS]

  well uh we did try to talk about all of [TS]

  them but didn't spend a whole lot of [TS]

  time on any of them [TS]

  I fear I'm going to repeat things i said [TS]

  on that show well that's okay we're [TS]

  going to expand this is the expansion [TS]

  already i have not listened to that [TS]

  episode so it will be new to me [TS]

  that's good and who you haven't heard [TS]

  yet but joining us for a second visit to [TS]

  the incomparable is our good friend [TS]

  friend of the podcast you know him you [TS]

  love him you can't live without him it's [TS]

  Merlin man I Merlin I Jason guys it's [TS]

  good to have you back [TS]

  it's wonderful to be here I love this [TS]

  movie yeah it's a i love it too but [TS]

  spoiler alert i think although Steve may [TS]

  be confused by it but i think the rest [TS]

  of us love it so we'll get into it so so [TS]

  my neighbor totoro i can tell you [TS]

  I first saw this movie i'm going to say [TS]

  I mean more than a decade ago I think I [TS]

  saw a VHS that was the original English [TS]

  dub of this movie think that at my my [TS]

  wife's and uncle's house and then didn't [TS]

  see it for for many years and then [TS]

  finally got the DVD of it because i [TS]

  remember liking it and the DVD of course [TS]

  is the version that's the disney dubbed [TS]

  version and until that I got the DVD or [TS]

  blu-ray last week I had never watched [TS]

  the japanese version with english [TS]

  subtitles but I know that John insists [TS]

  that uh that that's the way to watch [TS]

  them so i did actually watch the blu-ray [TS]

  there and then also watch some of it in [TS]

  English with my kids so I've seen it in [TS]

  kind of a bunch of different versions [TS]

  John what's your experience with your [TS]

  background with my neighbor totoro so [TS]

  sort of the original Japanese like most [TS]

  na but then I had kids and they can't [TS]

  read subtitles or couldn't at the time I [TS]

  introduced this movie to them right now [TS]

  subsequently i had seen this movie and [TS]

  within the disney dubbed the one with [TS]

  the dakota fanning and everything [TS]

  many many many many many many many times [TS]

  and to rewatch it for for this podcast i [TS]

  went back and watch the dubbed version [TS]

  and I could barely remember it because [TS]

  like you when you you don't have kids [TS]

  you watch your movie once twice three [TS]

  times you know maybe your visit once a [TS]

  year after that if it's SuperDuper [TS]

  favorite right but when you have kids [TS]

  you see the same movie a bazillion times [TS]

  and so I found that in the memory space [TS]

  for this movie [TS]

  the tub is to come to dominate through [TS]

  sheer repetition [TS]

  yeah and so it was kind of alien for me [TS]

  to be watching the subtitle version [TS]

  which is a very strange experience [TS]

  especially for the enemy that my kids [TS]

  don't watch so I mean like when merlin [TS]

  is making it tweets today everything [TS]

  about lines from the movie those are [TS]

  lines from the dub and I recognized them [TS]

  as lines from the don't even though [TS]

  they're not like lines from the real [TS]

  movie like they're not even if they [TS]

  don't have the words that they say in [TS]

  Japanese like the subtitles don't match [TS]

  the words of the characters in this [TS]

  movie [TS]

  well iight went to follow up on that and [TS]

  there's actually found three different [TS]

  translations of that line that have [TS]

  nothing to do with creepy [TS]

  I mean three different transcription [TS]

  different people [TS]

  the wreck it's pretty old it's [TS]

  completely rotten nothing to do with [TS]

  creepy are there multiple dubs yeah this [TS]

  is like that dogs but there's two [TS]

  there's two jobs [TS]

  I'm sorry I'm jumping and there's two [TS]

  jobs the original one which isn't that [TS]

  great i like-like-like you i guess i've [TS]

  seen the Dakota Fanning one many many [TS]

  times i love it i watched it I watched I [TS]

  don't know the first third of it tonight [TS]

  and for the first time because everybody [TS]

  was saying you gotta go see the subtitle [TS]

  version like John having a kid we're not [TS]

  going to you know have subtitles around [TS]

  the house so yeah it's a very different [TS]

  movie the characters come off very [TS]

  different from the data from the dubbed [TS]

  version i think the version is very well [TS]

  done but it's kind of it's a different [TS]

  movie and I mean so I guess I've seen at [TS]

  first I saw my friend Michael showed me [TS]

  the catbus seen like you know 13 14 [TS]

  years ago I thought it was hilarious and [TS]

  super weird and then i saw it i think i [TS]

  found a copy that fell off the back of a [TS]

  truck of the original just like the [TS]

  original DVD dubbed version was a fox [TS]

  fox put out a version of it with a [TS]

  double it's different than we've had [TS]

  different voices that is anyone I've [TS]

  never seen right yeah I seem to remember [TS]

  that and thinking it was not so [TS]

  distinguished but the movie so visually [TS]

  stunning and then yeah then the Dakota [TS]

  Fanning version which as i say i think [TS]

  is very well done [TS]

  I've got to get a 1080p of that I really [TS]

  like and then today like I said for the [TS]

  first time in a long time since having a [TS]

  kid anyway I went back and watch the [TS]

  version with subtitles and then went [TS]

  down the rabbit hole of like finding two [TS]

  versions of the translated script in [TS]

  three different all these different sets [TS]

  of you know anyway I guess my point [TS]

  being that Miyazaki himself says that [TS]

  you really this movie barely makes it as [TS]

  it is and what makes sense if you don't [TS]

  speak Japanese because there's all kinds [TS]

  of jokes and nuances to get lost so i'm [TS]

  really interested in hearing what you [TS]

  guys have to say about that because now [TS]

  I feel like I almost like I've been [TS]

  watching a different movie [TS]

  yes sir john john says the internet [TS]

  through purest fashion that watching it [TS]

  in Japanese with the subtitles is a [TS]

  better experience it's certainly [TS]

  different but since i since I think none [TS]

  of us understand Japanese you know we're [TS]

  still relying on the subtitles we can [TS]

  hear what they're saying and and maybe [TS]

  pick some nuance out but we can't [TS]

  understand what they're saying so it is [TS]

  fascinating that these different [TS]

  versions [TS]

  and i know i did this with Kiki's [TS]

  Delivery Service not too long ago I [TS]

  watched it in the subtitle version and [TS]

  it is it is very different and the [TS]

  translations aren't the same because the [TS]

  subtitles don't need to match the lips [TS]

  moving of the characters right they can [TS]

  be a theoretically closer to what was [TS]

  intended in the original whereas the [TS]

  dubbed version needs to you know you can [TS]

  have somebody saying something when you [TS]

  can't see them speaking so that they're [TS]

  they're very different we've talked [TS]

  about this in the other anime episode [TS]

  like this it's a blessing and a curse to [TS]

  watch a movie with subtitles when you [TS]

  don't speak the language because that [TS]

  the curses of course that you know you [TS]

  can't get all the nuances that are there [TS]

  in the original language we can [TS]

  understand the same but the blessing is [TS]

  that you can imagine that they're acting [TS]

  performances are better than they are [TS]

  and that as a westerner that is an [TS]

  actual very important but very not very [TS]

  often spoke about advantage of watching [TS]

  dubs with subtitles is that poor [TS]

  performances where line readings are [TS]

  really bad you're insulated from them [TS]

  and at least in my mind I i tend to [TS]

  project and imagine that these are great [TS]

  uncle perform reduced actors ever really [TS]

  they could just be terrible but i have [TS]

  no idea what they're saying so that's [TS]

  okay yeah i understand that line and [TS]

  Elia and for the subtitles matching like [TS]

  that i know enough Japanese to know when [TS]

  that like the person said mother or [TS]

  father or sister and they inserted the [TS]

  proper noun instead like and they'll do [TS]

  that repeatedly or when they have [TS]

  expanded what I know to be a single [TS]

  idiomatic phrase into an English [TS]

  sentence that is more or less equivalent [TS]

  stuff like that is I i would much rather [TS]

  have I kind of grew up on fansubs and i [TS]

  would much rather have literal subtitles [TS]

  that don't make as much sense then [TS]

  english subtitles where they attempt to [TS]

  expand out Japanese idioms into remotely [TS]

  equivalent English idioms you know what [TS]

  they just say yes or thank you or [TS]

  something like that in the japanese [TS]

  version and then you see that the [TS]

  subtitle set is like a sentence and a [TS]

  half [TS]

  wow it's like no I heard them they just [TS]

  said yes and then the final the final [TS]

  sin of the dub is when and this kills me [TS]

  and they do it on these new documents a [TS]

  lot is there is no line in the original [TS]

  Japanese no one is speaking and yet they [TS]

  will have the English voice actors say [TS]

  things because they can get away with it [TS]

  because like the faces and [TS]

  amber yeah because they feel like they [TS]

  need to explain things like oh so we're [TS]

  going to know yes we're going there okay [TS]

  i guess we're gonna go there and like [TS]

  there's nothing like no dialogue [TS]

  whatsoever and that seeing the japanese [TS]

  one that just makes me angry and I said [TS]

  stop it we can figure it out you don't [TS]

  we're not that dumb [TS]

  so now that we've we've described how [TS]

  we're not qualified even judge this and [TS]

  yet we're going to Steve so yes so this [TS]

  was your this was your first miyazaki [TS]

  and and your first totoro indeed and I i [TS]

  did watch it in the original Japanese [TS]

  because it just seemed wrong to do it [TS]

  any other way and even watching it in [TS]

  the Japanese kinda like John says I I [TS]

  felt like I was not doing it right [TS]

  because i don't speak the language and I [TS]

  frankly don't have a clue how good the [TS]

  translation is and I don't know enough [TS]

  about Japanese speech patterns to know [TS]

  if you know if there's a decent [TS]

  performance going on here or not [TS]

  obviously you know that does have its [TS]

  benefits but I so so even the way I [TS]

  watched it felt I felt a little dirty [TS]

  and then I i intended to watch it the [TS]

  second time with the English dub and I [TS]

  got maybe about 10 minutes in and i just [TS]

  switched back to the subs for two [TS]

  reasons I mean one is one is that it's [TS]

  such a different movie with the subs and [TS]

  I actually I don't even have any idea [TS]

  which of the two I mean it's out with [TS]

  the dub it's a it's a different movie [TS]

  and I'm not entirely sure which of the [TS]

  two dubs i watched having obtained it [TS]

  through traditional me screaming if the [TS]

  father sound like the guy from wings [TS]

  you're watching the Disney one [TS]

  ok i'm not i'm still not sure no the [TS]

  other guys and wings so they know that [TS]

  guy [TS]

  ok very good person so yeah I mean I got [TS]

  you know 10 minutes in and i realized [TS]

  that i was going to be incredibly [TS]

  confused having only seen this film [TS]

  twice once with the that once with [TS]

  english subs and once with a dub because [TS]

  they're two different completely [TS]

  different movies and I was going I kind [TS]

  of lose track of what was said in which [TS]

  version so i switch back for that reason [TS]

  and also because there are so many [TS]

  little Western colloquialisms and things [TS]

  that they drop into the dub and it's [TS]

  it's so jarring having seen it in ya [TS]

  having read that the subs and and heard [TS]

  the original Japanese it just seems like [TS]

  it's [TS]

  so different from the way it was [TS]

  intended that it just graded on me and I [TS]

  didn't get through it [TS]

  I i was struck while I was watching it [TS]

  and and my son brought this up to that [TS]

  it did this the the dubbed version and [TS]

  the insertion of Western isms so his [TS]

  other movies that i love is kiki's [TS]

  delivery service and it's set in a [TS]

  European city whereas this is set in [TS]

  japan in rural post-war Japan and you [TS]

  can get away with a lot of kind of weird [TS]

  cultural things when it's a japanese [TS]

  movie set in a European city but this [TS]

  isn't that and so you do you do sort of [TS]

  feel like this is not this isn't quite [TS]

  right that you're really westernizing [TS]

  something that that you maybe shouldn't [TS]

  be because this is a Japanese story [TS]

  exactly [TS]

  yes well ok now that we have made it [TS]

  clear that we don't know what we're [TS]

  talking about never stopped us before [TS]

  yeah that's why not we will soldier on [TS]

  let me let me explain a little bit for [TS]

  those who haven't seen this movie yet [TS]

  and I i feel like the spoiler horn has [TS]

  taken the week off because quite [TS]

  honestly will and we'll get to this a [TS]

  little bit later kind of nothing happens [TS]

  in this movie to a certain degree [TS]

  totally and so I I don't think you could [TS]

  possibly spoil it [TS]

  other than that it's really nice and you [TS]

  should see it and you know [TS]

  spoiler alert it's nice i'm so glad you [TS]

  you start off saying that because that's [TS]

  that's exactly what confused me [TS]

  oh nothing nothing i'm so so this is set [TS]

  in post-war Japan the story is a [TS]

  professor and his daughters are moving [TS]

  into a house in the country and when we [TS]

  meet them for the first time they're [TS]

  they're going down the road and up in a [TS]

  truck with Vera with their possessions [TS]

  and they're moving into this this house [TS]

  that that has hasn't had somebody living [TS]

  in it for a little while and they're [TS]

  doing this because the mother is in the [TS]

  hospital with what we assume is [TS]

  something like tuberculosis although [TS]

  it's never said I think it's the papers [TS]

  yeah it's the confidence the consumption [TS]

  it's definitely it's definitely [TS]

  consumption it's in the graphic novel [TS]

  and Miyazaki's life so he's right yeah [TS]

  it's straight out it's just not [TS]

  mentioned in the movie [TS]

  absolutely that's where this but that's [TS]

  what it is and they want i guess in [TS]

  foursome [TS]

  it's medical they want her to not be in [TS]

  the hustle and bustle of the city they [TS]

  wanted the cleaner of the countryside [TS]

  but she isn't there yet she's still in [TS]

  the hospital and they're setting up [TS]

  house and they move into this house and [TS]

  the girls kind of clean it up and their [TS]

  little magical black puffy guys who were [TS]

  living in this house is nothing better [TS]

  for the consumption that little black [TS]

  Koosh balls flying it yeah I made a suit [TS]

  made it and they answer they clean up [TS]

  the house and those all go away and then [TS]

  and and so they're living in this house [TS]

  and one of the girls sees a creature in [TS]

  the grass and it's like a spirit or or [TS]

  or something a strange little animal [TS]

  spirit and she follows it through a [TS]

  through a kind of a tunnel in the next [TS]

  to the tree of like made out of plans [TS]

  and she ends up at the base of this [TS]

  giant tree with a couple with these [TS]

  three giant or three creatures one small [TS]

  one medium and one very large that are [TS]

  these wood spirits and then she declares [TS]

  them totoro which I'm unclear the it [TS]

  sounds like maybe it's a pronunciation [TS]

  of troll in the dubbed version he [TS]

  actually the large one actually says to [TS]

  pull role and she's all your totoro [TS]

  which is strange because he may have [TS]

  just been saying get off my stomach is a [TS]

  sort of sounds like that in the evenin [TS]

  the japanese version it sounds vaguely [TS]

  like that sort of right and are too hard [TS]

  i didn't think they had dub totoro oh [TS]

  yeah totoro is not the same not the same [TS]

  voice in the japanese version in the an [TS]

  English dub hey dub totoro they totally [TS]

  dumped her oh man that's not right that [TS]

  must look this up in his wikipedia [TS]

  research that yeah i think it's i think [TS]

  it's a Miss presentation of trouble here [TS]

  the ideas in the dubbed version that you [TS]

  know she s mispronounces it I yeah it's [TS]

  supposed to be a troll based on they say [TS]

  is that role in this is a totoro and she [TS]

  says yes she'd miss misprint miss her [TS]

  totoro is tomorrow but yeah but I mean [TS]

  the yeah there's the King totoro and now [TS]

  because keep small medium large total [TS]

  rows so so this is a great it's [TS]

  interesting I here I thought it was the [TS]

  Japanese for giant retarded bipedal [TS]

  sloth when it turns out that's its trial [TS]

  control we don't have a word for the Red [TS]

  Sox have two toes [TS]

  not five so what happens next again [TS]

  nothing really happens so so she falls [TS]

  asleep and they find her and there no [TS]

  total rows anywhere so it wasn't a dream [TS]

  or was it and then later later there's a [TS]

  rainy night and their their father's [TS]

  coming back he's going to take a train [TS]

  to a bus back from Tokyo to this to this [TS]

  country place where they're living and [TS]

  they're waiting there and the giant [TS]

  totoro appears next to them and and yes [TS]

  this is the plot folks and they give him [TS]

  an umbrella and he's amused by that and [TS]

  he gets on a bus that's like a giant cat [TS]

  and he goes away which they call a cab [TS]

  us the cat bus stop me if I'm getting [TS]

  any of this wrong then then uh they [TS]

  later have a wonderful adventure with [TS]

  the total rows and the totoro jumps up [TS]

  and down with the with the umbrella LOL [TS]

  a frog burps at one point [TS]

  don't forget that you're dead inside [TS]

  Steve dead inside [TS]

  I didn't say I just like the Frog [TS]

  burping i just wanted to point it out [TS]

  it's it's a classic moment to the girls [TS]

  have a good time with the total rows and [TS]

  we were led to believe that maybe they [TS]

  are real but because they there's this [TS]

  fantastical scene where they plant these [TS]

  seeds in the total rows company and the [TS]

  seeds grow into giant trees and at the [TS]

  end of the night the trees are gone [TS]

  father never notices anything but [TS]

  they're the they're plants have started [TS]

  to grow so there's some some magic [TS]

  happening and then comes the what we [TS]

  could maybe call the plot which is that [TS]

  the littler of the two girls wants to go [TS]

  see her mother and and gets like it to [TS]

  get the phone call that the mother can't [TS]

  come that weekend because she's had it [TS]

  sounds like it sounds like it might be [TS]

  an emergency has happened right first [TS]

  right it turns out it's not a big deal [TS]

  but they can't they have to go someplace [TS]

  where there's a phone and call their dad [TS]

  in the city and he has to call the [TS]

  hospital and and they don't know in the [TS]

  build the little girl gets upset and [TS]

  wanders off in history I guess wondering [TS]

  with her with her one year of corn to [TS]

  find her mother at the hospital and she [TS]

  gets lost and so then they look for her [TS]

  and the and totoro helps and someone's [TS]

  the catbus and they go and they find her [TS]

  and everything's fine and the court is [TS]

  delivered and the corn is delivered to [TS]

  the windowsill of her mother's hospital [TS]

  bed and cry and that's that moment of it [TS]

  was a dream or was it huh [TS]

  it wasn't or was it it wasn't or was it [TS]

  you know that's that's one of the things [TS]

  I really like about it is and so what I [TS]

  like I mean obviously some of the music [TS]

  movies are much quicker pace i mean if [TS]

  you watch something like cat castle in [TS]

  the sky [TS]

  you know it's really is like an [TS]

  adventure yeah you know moving a lot of [TS]

  ways but i like how you know I kind of [TS]

  like how little happens and in first [TS]

  haha hearing you do that is a pitch you [TS]

  Jason Snelling voice in particular maybe [TS]

  realizing what happens here buddy I'm [TS]

  gonna wait for it wait for it [TS]

  here's the thing then they have to go to [TS]

  the bus stop [TS]

  8-way anything and it's raining and [TS]

  maybe 13 small it's really cute just one [TS]

  picture it but yeah that was a terrible [TS]

  pitch that would be as a movie but you [TS]

  know that jump too far how to help but [TS]

  the the whole I'm very intrigued by [TS]

  armed the druid like animism and spirit [TS]

  spirit stuff but also you know and [TS]

  something I guess could make it very [TS]

  perplexing but i think is really [TS]

  interesting is like how important you [TS]

  know plants are in this in general and I [TS]

  kind of did you get the feeling that her [TS]

  dad is maybe like a botanist or [TS]

  something is just channeling miyazaki [TS]

  who is totally into the natural state of [TS]

  the world that man is ruining I mean [TS]

  like a recurring theme and a lot of it [TS]

  every movie yeah this is yeah and this [TS]

  is a very fattening that and girls [TS]

  cleaning dirty houses like a schoolgirl [TS]

  thing like it seems like always [TS]

  somebody's always gotta clean a dirty [TS]

  house I think that's the traditional [TS]

  Japanese think of cleaning the floor [TS]

  with a little rags or whatever and i [TS]

  think i'm assuming again this is like TV [TS]

  reading through learning about japan [TS]

  only through animate that is not [TS]

  something that means documented but that [TS]

  actually is [TS]

  it's kind of like saying you know in [TS]

  America no two peoples clean the floors [TS]

  with those mops in the bucket yeah they [TS]

  do that's why you see people with mops [TS]

  and buckets you know like Howl's Moving [TS]

  Castle howl's moving castle has a lot of [TS]

  housecleaning to be right and spirited [TS]

  away has all the girls doing it once you [TS]

  know my am my kids and I were also [TS]

  watching and fascination about the one [TS]

  of the one of the funny cultural things [TS]

  here is the the bathroom [TS]

  let's get the two big tubs and they [TS]

  you know they're bringing in the water [TS]

  and then like a pole family is bathing [TS]

  we're sitting in the water and then the [TS]

  girl gets out and she likes open [TS]

  yourself up and then she gets back about [TS]

  with the water and my kids were [TS]

  fascinated by that because that's their [TS]

  like what it what am I seeing here and I [TS]

  said well this is how the this is how [TS]

  they do taking a bath but that this is [TS]

  the dads in there and the kids are in [TS]

  there and just everybody's in a little [TS]

  bathtub and it's just it's it's a very [TS]

  different thing that dad is great by the [TS]

  way is me he's like the most [TS]

  understanding is like oh you saw a [TS]

  totoro ok for you know he doesn't like [TS]

  speaking of difference in the sun w not [TS]

  my friends see in the sub he is more I [TS]

  don't know how you like he's he's [TS]

  friendly and garrulous and playful kind [TS]

  of like slightly teasing the kids about [TS]

  their make-believe things whereas in the [TS]

  end the dub one he's like I'm the [TS]

  friendliest dad in the world and i love [TS]

  my girls and no I won't write like it's [TS]

  it's more of a dorky kind of thing [TS]

  whereas the Japanese what it's like with [TS]

  little little bit of a twinkle in his [TS]

  eye out of the way I can't close the [TS]

  screen you know it's much more taciturn [TS]

  in the he's like I mean that you know [TS]

  this is an example of good character was [TS]

  the dad doing this movie not much right [TS]

  but like it despite the fact that by [TS]

  modern parenting standards he's hit [TS]

  neglectful and should be implicated in [TS]

  social services the arms of allowing his [TS]

  children to wander with a well yeah like [TS]

  40 bucks but like you've got a priest a [TS]

  pre-school age daughter running around [TS]

  places where the puddles of water and [TS]

  things like that and he's like reading [TS]

  his book and take notes and she's gone [TS]

  he's like huh until his dog other [TS]

  daughter comes back to check it over his [TS]

  old baseball score sheet [TS]

  yeah a competent when the workday is [TS]

  over he says has anyone seen my time [TS]

  before you haven't given her one shader [TS]

  an eight-hour everyone but but now but [TS]

  like but they get you they despite all [TS]

  that you get on his side because of [TS]

  things like when they come to the new [TS]

  house right and he tells the girl [TS]

  something someone's like to see if you [TS]

  can figure how to get up to the second [TS]

  floor he knows how to get the second [TS]

  floor but it's a fun thing for the girls [TS]

  to do it like simple things like that [TS]

  gets you on his side of like he is [TS]

  managing to give the girl to enhance the [TS]

  girls good time of exploring the new [TS]

  house rather than yelling at them and [TS]

  saying stop running around we have done [TS]

  pack like that's so his character is in [TS]

  both things defined by [TS]

  that's so much of what again what I love [TS]

  about the characterization in the movie [TS]

  especially with ski and in a rare as you [TS]

  kind of saying in a subtle way with her [TS]

  dad think about like what you know what [TS]

  they're going through you know what i [TS]

  mean if if my wife were really really [TS]

  ill I'm I'm unhinged all the time and I [TS]

  don't you know I hardly help at all in [TS]

  this case he's got to take care of the [TS]

  kids he's gotta work he's going to do [TS]

  all this stuff and he still keeps it [TS]

  very playful and stuff he's always kind [TS]

  of stepping up to the plate to try and [TS]

  you know be the surrogate mom she's so [TS]

  happy when her mom says that you know [TS]

  she's like her and you know again when [TS]

  you say it I totally agree when you say [TS]

  nothing happens that's kind of what i [TS]

  love because it really is on the way [TS]

  it's done you know and yet something [TS]

  giant is happening which it's you know [TS]

  all about our relationship to these [TS]

  environments in each other and he's kind [TS]

  of plan the roberto benigni role in life [TS]

  is beautiful the japanese version [TS]

  he's keeping it he's keeping it you know [TS]

  relax but the kids well mob is you know [TS]

  potentially your death right right now [TS]

  he's being a good dad will I mean a huge [TS]

  change of coming to the country and [TS]

  moving into this house and they make it [TS]

  into an adventure and that is what this [TS]

  is right it's their adventure with the [TS]

  spirits of the forest now that they [TS]

  moved out to the countryside but you [TS]

  know he's got to go to his job and he's [TS]

  worried about his wife in the hospital [TS]

  and all of that at the same time so we [TS]

  don't see a lot of that in this in this [TS]

  father we see him being taken care of [TS]

  his daughters and being supportive you [TS]

  know with some issues about trying to [TS]

  send them to their deaths [TS]

  yeah having them check out the second [TS]

  floor in the house with the completely [TS]

  rickety porch that's about to collapse [TS]

  on don't you love like when they go and [TS]

  like you know greet the tree and and [TS]

  yeah it's so it is self-consciously [TS]

  silly at least in the dubbed version but [TS]

  it's I think it's really sweet and and [TS]

  their you know their relationships right [TS]

  when i was getting ready for this I was [TS]

  i love kind of google for some things I [TS]

  want to search on walking into something [TS]

  along the lines of Disney why does [TS]

  disney kill so many parents and i found [TS]

  a site that's called why does disney [TS]

  always kill the parents and because you [TS]

  know think about all the disney movies [TS]

  where so much of the plot turns on the [TS]

  fact that a parent is like dead missing [TS]

  the band the kids the kids orphaned [TS]

  mom's tied to a chain with a chain and [TS]

  dumbo and this movie it's like it's and [TS]

  it's a nuclear family [TS]

  he's having these problems but you know [TS]

  all the action comes out of their their [TS]

  interactions with each other and plants [TS]

  and charles i guess but I i think that's [TS]

  really redeeming and you know it is true [TS]

  I i like the fact that you know it's [TS]

  just in so many kids movies it's so [TS]

  vital keys or it's fantastic it's just [TS]

  always do so much [TS]

  I mean we're super pick one is picky is [TS]

  my friend John siracusa is but we're [TS]

  pretty picky about what will watch and [TS]

  we will always fall back like if you [TS]

  know [TS]

  Mulan is like the worst that we will go [TS]

  generally of non superhero stuff but you [TS]

  know if there's so much like just [TS]

  everybody's running around and and and [TS]

  the kids don't see my kids and this the [TS]

  kids like in so many of his movies [TS]

  they're instantly totally believable [TS]

  characters that seem like themselves [TS]

  people with flaws but you know I mean [TS]

  how many kids movies are really about [TS]

  relationships that aren't like you know [TS]

  vegetales or something that's an [TS]

  interesting point about the dead parents [TS]

  because in a sense that's kind of going [TS]

  on here but it's much more subdued mean [TS]

  obviously the reason that Disney goes to [TS]

  that well so many times is if you're you [TS]

  know a pre school or elementary [TS]

  school-age kid you don't have that much [TS]

  stuff that you gotta worry about but if [TS]

  you were to ask a kid with their worst [TS]

  fears it would probably be you know what [TS]

  my parents weren't there all the sudden [TS]

  and you know the disney just goes they [TS]

  go to full monty and they kill off the [TS]

  parents in this one you know the older [TS]

  the kid is the more they're gonna get [TS]

  about the fact that you know Mom is [TS]

  potentially going to die here [TS]

  that's when sasuke that's kind of loses [TS]

  it with may write when she finally she's [TS]

  so you know sisterly bond is really a [TS]

  little bit maternal with the whole [TS]

  family she makes lunch she gets real up [TS]

  early and make lunch for everybody know [TS]

  that kind of right but that but you know [TS]

  it's finally when she thinks maze acting [TS]

  like a baby that you really see the [TS]

  cracks and how worried she really is [TS]

  about her mom and it isn't like this you [TS]

  know [TS]

  lacrimosa seen with you know [TS]

  unnecessarily soaring score or something [TS]

  like that it's a I thought that was [TS]

  completely authentic I thought that was [TS]

  completely how that character would [TS]

  respond in that situation and I think [TS]

  that's great because the little kids the [TS]

  preschoolers watching this won't pick up [TS]

  on that although just call moms at the [TS]

  hospital and she looks perfectly happy [TS]

  and there's you know there's [TS]

  nothing that wrong she's going to come [TS]

  back in a couple of weeks it's pretty [TS]

  healthy the older kids will pick up on [TS]

  their very high very high forehead [TS]

  it's it's nice that they're an option [TS]

  for the kid you know not necessarily see [TS]

  Bambi's mom gets shot you know what [TS]

  Merlin said before is one of the one of [TS]

  the keys to this movie understands what [TS]

  i think is that and a lot of miyazaki [TS]

  movies but this more so that I think the [TS]

  other ones that a lot a lot of the [TS]

  movies featuring children including the [TS]

  disney ones where they kill off the [TS]

  parents are an excuse for them to tell [TS]

  regular adult stories but merely insert [TS]

  child characters into leading roles so [TS]

  that the audience can identify with them [TS]

  where they'll have that they get rid of [TS]

  the parents because that removes that [TS]

  complication of that angle like people [TS]

  to tell you what to do every day and [TS]

  tell you to put your socks on stuff like [TS]

  that because that frees the carries up [TS]

  to basically be small slightly less [TS]

  powerful adults and they relate to each [TS]

  other and the other characters like [TS]

  adults they do adult things throughout [TS]

  the course the movies just that they're [TS]

  smaller like why I fiction where you [TS]

  have young adults so that the readers [TS]

  can relate to them into that age but [TS]

  they're really just doing adult type [TS]

  things the kids in this movie act like [TS]

  kids of the appropriate age and you [TS]

  can't have kids that age do things like [TS]

  going an amazing adventure like castle [TS]

  in the sky and have the wherewithal like [TS]

  because they're not motivated by [TS]

  discovery redeeming the spirit of their [TS]

  father who found this cat like that's [TS]

  not how kids that age think just isn't [TS]

  right [TS]

  these kids in this movie are exactly [TS]

  age-appropriate which maybe you don't [TS]

  realize until you have kids who pass [TS]

  through these exact ages and you're like [TS]

  right then and there little kids [TS]

  impersonating the big kid all the time [TS]

  and wanting to you know that that red [TS]

  totally true to me [TS]

  so the greatest scene here about these [TS]

  two girls that that I think says a lot [TS]

  it and maybe doesn't get the attention [TS]

  it deserves is the may the the younger [TS]

  daughter insists on coming to school and [TS]

  cries and cries and cries until granny [TS]

  who is the nice lady whose I guess [TS]

  renting them the house brings her to the [TS]

  school and Satsuki goes out together in [TS]

  the entire class watches this drama [TS]

  unfold and in the end may spend the rest [TS]

  of the day sitting inside skis classroom [TS]

  and it's just such a great scene because [TS]

  it's you know the younger sisters had a [TS]

  temper tantrum the lady doesn't know [TS]

  what to do that [TS]

  babysitter and and in the end the sister [TS]

  sort of like tries to explain to her [TS]

  what's going on and then realizes she's [TS]

  just got to take her under her wing for [TS]

  the day and what I like about it too is [TS]

  there's no real consequence to that the [TS]

  teacher is supportive of it and the rest [TS]

  of the students think it's really cool [TS]

  that her little sister came and they and [TS]

  they say nice things when they leave at [TS]

  the end of the school day and it's just [TS]

  it's again you could look at that and [TS]

  say nothing happens but you know I think [TS]

  it's great in portraying that [TS]

  relationship and also just dealing with [TS]

  a kid who's having a temper tantrum and [TS]

  who is got your mind made up and there's [TS]

  nothing you can do to change their mind [TS]

  my favorite kid being kid seeing which I [TS]

  pretty sure I talked about when to the [TS]

  miyazaki episode is the content of the [TS]

  boy who is not of the age where he [TS]

  notices the girls quite yet but it's [TS]

  kind of on the cusp of that yes and the [TS]

  the way that manifests itself is him [TS]

  communicating with the series of grunts [TS]

  and like whenever he sees her not [TS]

  wanting doing things are thrusting the [TS]

  item that has the years the umbrella [TS]

  take it and then running away dropping [TS]

  on the ground running away and as he [TS]

  runs away this big smile on his face [TS]

  when she brings you back to the house he [TS]

  hides because like the whole concept of [TS]

  her being there is embarrassing to him [TS]

  he hides yes and when his mother asked [TS]

  them what you doin bro he doesn't say he [TS]

  gave her because that would be [TS]

  embarrassing like all of his actions and [TS]

  you know when someone says oh who is [TS]

  that a door and he says no one but he's [TS]

  happy and he's playing with his plane he [TS]

  doesn't have a way to even understand [TS]

  this relationship he just has like these [TS]

  visceral reactions to it in the acts [TS]

  like like like a crazy person you would [TS]

  think it's not like not like a male [TS]

  character in any but that's how kids [TS]

  that age act like you see you know you [TS]

  see my son totally acts like that right [TS]

  down to the grunts you're like oh come [TS]

  on no one throws something at you in [TS]

  grunts no no boys do that they'll do [TS]

  they say exactly [TS]

  no interview and if you have also by [TS]

  that he's right at that age where he is [TS]

  you say like he's confused about this [TS]

  but also think about the fact that again [TS]

  maybe every to mention that these things [TS]

  but he's a country mouse [TS]

  he's a kid who whose works in a rice [TS]

  field and this girl from this really [TS]

  cute girl of his age whose by probably [TS]

  by contrast and it's pretty [TS]

  sophisticated comes out and is living [TS]

  there and he's here to take all that in [TS]

  at one time and she is more [TS]

  sophisticated because girls tend to [TS]

  mature faster and she is more articulate [TS]

  and able to like that is also [TS]

  appropriate because like girls that age [TS]

  compared to the boys that it makes the [TS]

  boy things look like you know the answer [TS]

  thoughts because they are in the girls [TS]

  to assume you know she does right [TS]

  rightly react by just sticking her [TS]

  tongue out Adam and you know giving it [TS]

  back which is good to see but for all [TS]

  for all those things they don't have to [TS]

  lean on the accelerator to tell us any [TS]

  of those things we may out my reading of [TS]

  it may come to school because she's [TS]

  having a really hard time dealing with [TS]

  this change [TS]

  oh yeah and sasuke ceiling but they [TS]

  don't they don't have to go in there's [TS]

  not like a he's not like a song tell me [TS]

  how you feel alright alright love the [TS]

  little boy that doesn't have to be some [TS]

  kind of a flashback or you know interior [TS]

  monologue while he plays with this plane [TS]

  like we get that you know all the things [TS]

  went well as nothing is happening in [TS]

  this moving movie everything is [TS]

  happening with these people trying to [TS]

  figure out these little bits of their [TS]

  lives which is then only amplified by [TS]

  these dyscrasia animism that's going on [TS]

  but you know what you could watch them [TS]

  cause a fantasy movie which it certainly [TS]

  is in a lot of ways but the part that [TS]

  grounds that it makes it more than I [TS]

  don't know kung fu panda or something is [TS]

  that is that this is nothing against the [TS]

  pandas but that is is that it really is [TS]

  grounded in and John's really how many [TS]

  toes do pandas have fans versus totoro I [TS]

  think the thing that really struck me [TS]

  that struck me the most about how more [TS]

  how much more generally authentic these [TS]

  kids were than the usual kids you see an [TS]

  animated films was the tears on may they [TS]

  weren't like it was like one sad little [TS]

  teardrop pouring down her face she you [TS]

  see it twice see it when she's taken to [TS]

  the school keeps throwing a temper [TS]

  tantrum and you see it at the end when [TS]

  she's lost and it's it's just like this [TS]

  smudged face tears pouring down her face [TS]

  and there's not coming out of her nose [TS]

  yep and that's it so much more authentic [TS]

  than then the tears that you generally [TS]

  see in a film like this in the edit it [TS]

  was a very small subtle thing but it [TS]

  really kind of a impressed me was just [TS]

  how how much more authentic it was no [TS]

  they're all these anime episodes we are [TS]

  at least I always end up slamming [TS]

  western movies and you know like how [TS]

  everything's better in Japan and they do [TS]

  things but like the things that stand [TS]

  out what as a Western or watching [TS]

  japanese other things that are different [TS]

  and one of the things that I think [TS]

  stands out in this movie and getting [TS]

  back to like the kids [TS]

  being more authentic is the the [TS]

  fearlessness and RR the the different [TS]

  way in which they tell the story so the [TS]

  thing I took notes when I watched it a [TS]

  second time one of the things i noted is [TS]

  that 22 minutes of this movie go by [TS]

  before anyone says anything to indicate [TS]

  that the mothers in the hospital before [TS]

  that you don't know is their mother if I [TS]

  did issue coming later [TS]

  not a single not like oh you might miss [TS]

  it or they don't emphasize it they [TS]

  literally say nothing about the mother [TS]

  not being there until 20 minutes into [TS]

  the movie whereas if you made this movie [TS]

  is a western movie especially given what [TS]

  i think is the overall theme of this [TS]

  movie the mom being sick would be the [TS]

  framing device like that would be that [TS]

  running under the credit really like [TS]

  Citizen Kane it would be in media res [TS]

  where you would start out with like her [TS]

  on a bed like near death or there would [TS]

  be dialogue or they'd be getting out of [TS]

  the truck and it'd be like well when [TS]

  your mother until your mother gets out [TS]

  of the hospital kids where she is near [TS]

  death they would have to frame it that [TS]

  way and like it's and it's and in by [TS]

  Western standards like oh that's bad [TS]

  storytelling because if your whole movie [TS]

  is about this thing you cannot mention [TS]

  it until 22 minutes into a 90-minute [TS]

  movie or however long it is like because [TS]

  once that's mentioned in the previous 20 [TS]

  minutes that you saw changes meaning and [TS]

  I think that is true but I think like [TS]

  that kind of type of boldness allowing [TS]

  you to settle into the movie before [TS]

  we're letting you know what it's about [TS]

  it's something like it I movies for [TS]

  adults in the West won't do that they [TS]

  have to have the stupid voiceover and [TS]

  the dialogue and the you know and the [TS]

  big dramatic opening scene and the [TS]

  stupid title card that says 36 hours [TS]

  earlier like no one wanted to let you go [TS]

  into through 20 mins of the movie for [TS]

  sale by the way the moms in the hospital [TS]

  gets you to know that in our house we [TS]

  always say the exposition light is on [TS]

  and then we make this little blue [TS]

  something window with our hands but yeah [TS]

  I think that you're I think you're [TS]

  totally right [TS]

  it's it's it's luxurious in its pace in [TS]

  some ways and you may not realize how [TS]

  much has happened until you go oh ok i [TS]

  would that was actually kind of leading [TS]

  up to something but you know again one [TS]

  of my favorite scenes one of the like [TS]

  three times i cry in the movie is when [TS]

  they when they do find may and she's [TS]

  standing there and what is it at least [TS]

  in the dubsky said something like oh you [TS]

  were taking that corner mom and make us [TS]

  who [TS]

  and like this to me there's so much [TS]

  conveyed and I'm not doing it justice [TS]

  but in that one little scene after all [TS]

  of this really the biggest dramatic part [TS]

  of the when they find the sandal I mean [TS]

  oh yeah I mean you know when my [TS]

  daughter's friend came over and we watch [TS]

  this we had to do that i did that thing [TS]

  because I'm overcompensated like listen [TS]

  hey listen you know this part turns out [TS]

  ok ok but for a minute it looks like she [TS]

  drowned [TS]

  yeah but that those were the the relief [TS]

  has come we've just gotten through this [TS]

  Lake I made the catbus thing went with [TS]

  the tree and everything with the totoro [TS]

  you may not realize how luxurious is the [TS]

  movie has been until there's this [TS]

  explosion of activity at the end it's [TS]

  just so fantastic in the true sense of [TS]

  the word and then when sasuke may have [TS]

  that one tiny little exchange it's like [TS]

  I just like this is this just pulls it [TS]

  all together but it's so subtle they [TS]

  didn't have to say oh you understand the [TS]

  animism and importance of you know [TS]

  animated druid plants in Japan and that [TS]

  someone to take these things you for [TS]

  nourishment from mother who has [TS]

  tuberculosis which is a kind of [TS]

  respiratory disease [TS]

  yeah here's another subtle thing that [TS]

  most people don't notice because like at [TS]

  this point I think adults especially [TS]

  start to check out is why is it that may [TS]

  decides to go take the corn to the [TS]

  mother in the hospital like if you think [TS]

  back to the movie and you seen it once [TS]

  or whatever like i like she just decided [TS]

  to do that because she had the corn and [TS]

  later told that it will make her better [TS]

  and stuff about it but there's an [TS]

  inciting incident [TS]

  hey Justin it's not just like spelled [TS]

  out with a shot from 12 different angles [TS]

  or whatever its when her older sister [TS]

  breaks down about the idea from other [TS]

  not coming out [TS]

  macy's her older sister breaking down by [TS]

  her mother and maze personality is such [TS]

  a sheet-like you see this little go [TS]

  watch it again it's like it's like Mike [TS]

  you know lake lansing the knowing look [TS]

  at Vader in the carbon seen just not on [TS]

  on very long but watch it again she sees [TS]

  her sister breaking down in Manny [TS]

  comforting her and that's the last drop [TS]

  are amazed little face get set and she's [TS]

  too stubborn and determined as her [TS]

  little personality which again is [TS]

  another great aspect of accurate [TS]

  representation of children you can see [TS]

  the little personalities like from a [TS]

  ridiculously early age so we know how he [TS]

  is going to grow up right [TS]

  she once she sees your sister break now [TS]

  just like that's it i'm fixing this [TS]

  problem taking this corn to mom [TS]

  that's what makes her leave up at that [TS]

  point like they're all back to the house [TS]

  everybody's fine but she could cannot [TS]

  stand to see her oldest [TS]

  to lose it like that and not yelling at [TS]

  her but like being sad about then she [TS]

  realizes oh my sister is said to all [TS]

  right it's up to me now i have to fix [TS]

  this problem and she sets off right with [TS]

  her sister who has been the strong one [TS]

  through the whole thing is now suddenly [TS]

  weekend so she takes over [TS]

  yeah and like it is to that type of [TS]

  thing where it they'd is no dialogue [TS]

  there's no 17 scenes there's no like if [TS]

  you know musical cues talk about the [TS]

  music there's lots of the dramatic [TS]

  moments as music videos and Kiki as well [TS]

  do not have any music and the music goes [TS]

  away when when these dramatic things [TS]

  happen a telegram comes and everything [TS]

  their silence when they first look a [TS]

  first look at the camphor tree and of [TS]

  course I mean to me that's one thing [TS]

  that's so amazing about every miyazaki [TS]

  movie that I've seen like five of my [TS]

  guesses is the second you hear like [TS]

  three totally different music cues in [TS]

  the movie you feel like you've heard [TS]

  that song a thousand times and when they [TS]

  go to the tree there's like silent you [TS]

  know that one point there's some silence [TS]

  you see the leaves rustling and they [TS]

  have down down down down down which is I [TS]

  mean it as it's a little ping-pong but [TS]

  it's incredibly memorable don't you [TS]

  think I mean all those so I mean like [TS]

  the march at the beginning and and the [TS]

  way like to me that confidence weird [TS]

  combination of the scoring in the [TS]

  background painting have a wonderful [TS]

  impact on the rest of the movie in all [TS]

  of these movies there's there's it's so [TS]

  rich the way that they work together but [TS]

  right when I watched one is watching the [TS]

  subtitle version i was i thought my [TS]

  audio had gone out there a couple times [TS]

  when there's just silence there when may [TS]

  sets out on her little coordination no [TS]

  music when the telegram comes and [TS]

  they're reading it [TS]

  no music wow like that like they [TS]

  punctuate the dramatic moments by like [TS]

  like there's lots of silent passages but [TS]

  then like the music comes back in like [TS]

  when you're expecting that the comeback [TS]

  in there's no like like stuttering minor [TS]

  chord cellos or anything and when you're [TS]

  expecting it to come back in all of a [TS]

  sudden it doesn't come back in and the [TS]

  lack of it coming back like the notes [TS]

  they don't play you know like hit it [TS]

  works and it's not it's not a [TS]

  revolutionary effect but like you would [TS]

  think people would use it more often [TS]

  hear it is in the kids cartoon [TS]

  understanding how to emphasize the drama [TS]

  is a drama situation without having like [TS]

  big bass drums or symbols playing with [TS]

  the opposite but having no music at all [TS]

  anyone use it comes in like it that [TS]

  thing is this is not music that's like [TS]

  over-the-top bombastic score that so [TS]

  it's very you know nice and gentle like [TS]

  the rest of the movie and even that they [TS]

  cut away one of the things we we've been [TS]

  talking about is white why do you have [TS]

  this attraction to movies like this that [TS]

  as Westerners were watching this movie [TS]

  from Japan and I think we've said that [TS]

  part of it is being open to the [TS]

  possibilities of other ways of telling [TS]

  stories that we we've seen so many as [TS]

  adults we've seen so many different ways [TS]

  of telling stories in the styles that [TS]

  are popular here and then when you're [TS]

  when you're seeing something like a [TS]

  miyazaki movie and you realize that [TS]

  rules that we thought were rules are not [TS]

  hard and fast rules in that in fact [TS]

  there are ways to tell stories [TS]

  successfully that break those rules and [TS]

  that's one of the exciting things about [TS]

  this when I said nothing really happens [TS]

  i mean in some ways lots of things [TS]

  happen but but there's no antagonist [TS]

  really the antagonist here was I mean [TS]

  the episode we did about all the [TS]

  miyazaki movies was number 84 and I [TS]

  called wind is the enemy which was my [TS]

  line about who the antagonist is in keep [TS]

  the keys delivery service it's the wind [TS]

  because the wind causes trouble and in [TS]

  this movie the antagonist is like the [TS]

  moms tuberculosis is the only antagonist [TS]

  I think that existed that ear of corn I [TS]

  had the rain I mean there's there's 90 [TS]

  and antagonist is this the actual [TS]

  antagonist in the lives of all children [TS]

  the age of the children this movie and [TS]

  as anyone who has children the agents we [TS]

  know is what the mortal enemy of [TS]

  children is deviation from the status [TS]

  quo right on the status quo is I have a [TS]

  mother she's alive she takes care of me [TS]

  and now the statute she brushes my [TS]

  second and has been disrupted and no [TS]

  matter what that no matter what that [TS]

  status quo is any disruption to it [TS]

  because that the happy ending of this [TS]

  movie is essentially return to the [TS]

  status quo for these girls their mother [TS]

  comes like as soon as the title card [TS]

  comes up like the song is over [TS]

  everyone's happy to deliver think the [TS]

  very next thing you see the first great [TS]

  title card is mom's coming home in a [TS]

  taxi status quo restored finally my life [TS]

  as I've known it for all these three [TS]

  years or five years or seven years or [TS]

  whatever [TS]

  finally it's back to the way it was and [TS]

  that constitutes a happy ending [TS]

  not quite the same because they were the [TS]

  countryside but see that's what that [TS]

  where somebody we something we haven't [TS]

  talked about a lot that's where the the [TS]

  total rows come in right because i was [TS]

  just gonna say where 56 minutes in i may [TS]

  be no no I just want to say maybe this [TS]

  is a parent thing is yeah I think it's [TS]

  wonderful that we made 56 minutes into [TS]

  this conversation without talking about [TS]

  the most remarkable part of it in some [TS]

  ways which is that wonderful you know [TS]

  big you know giant blue not sloth [TS]

  character top shelf [TS]

  yeah I love he's going a big cat but i [TS]

  love how rabbit cat so the total rows [TS]

  are they're welcoming them into the [TS]

  forest right these are forest spirits [TS]

  and they're out in the forest there in [TS]

  the countryside and that's that's that [TS]

  part of the story is is them adapting to [TS]

  this new place that they're living and [TS]

  then there's the story with the mom so [TS]

  it's not quite status quo just about the [TS]

  mom but I any in the important ways [TS]

  right like in the important ways like my [TS]

  mother not being there is the the [TS]

  initial sure fighting incident the [TS]

  initial disruption and having mom back [TS]

  it was at that point the the new house [TS]

  is that it's cause we don't like kids [TS]

  will get used to a new routine pretty [TS]

  quickly but getting rid of your mother [TS]

  is the type of thing you don't get used [TS]

  to that easily if at all [TS]

  that's definitely the problem to be [TS]

  solved or not in this but the totoro i [TS]

  guess i guess my point about talking [TS]

  when he was talking about the totoro now [TS]

  to which we should probably do is is [TS]

  they are the welcoming of into this new [TS]

  world they're saying we're the spirits [TS]

  of this forest and I imagine that [TS]

  there's a whole lot of animism and you [TS]

  know a Japanese culture stuff here that [TS]

  I don't understand and I can't even [TS]

  judge whether when the father does the [TS]

  thing where he thanks the the trees and [TS]

  all of that as an American I can't even [TS]

  judge whether that's the father being a [TS]

  little bit goofy to make the daughters [TS]

  feel good or whether that is something [TS]

  that has all sorts of connections to [TS]

  japanese culture that I just don't [TS]

  understand the tree the tree hill pay [TS]

  attention to it is his daughter can [TS]

  treat him like a flower shop don't know [TS]

  where she is ours yeah I don't know what [TS]

  was that like we're actually that's so [TS]

  speaking of that will seem that that [TS]

  rang true for me too but despite the [TS]

  fact that he's been neglecting star like [TS]

  when you try to get work done and your [TS]

  and your little daughter comes up and [TS]

  says you're the flower shop now and [TS]

  lines that's what kids do ya get work [TS]

  done they will do I just don't let them [TS]

  run off 48 hours after yeah [TS]

  actually the daughter disengages and he [TS]

  doesn't follow her which is probably a [TS]

  mistake but ok so we should talk about [TS]

  the totoro if we have things to say [TS]

  about them i obviously they're they're [TS]

  cute they're very cute and they're fun [TS]

  and the three of them which is all I [TS]

  always thought that was an amusing [TS]

  interaction that they come in three [TS]

  sizes and and they all you know there's [TS]

  one that's kind of more like a bunny and [TS]

  the one that's kind of more like a cat [TS]

  and they don't say anything other than [TS]

  you know Bo and you know but then [TS]

  there's lots of merchandise you can buy [TS]

  a total row you can get a big stuff [TS]

  totoro you can get a total mug and and [TS]

  although they're not kind of the point [TS]

  of the movie as we've been talking about [TS]

  all along they are they are what the [TS]

  movie that fits the title this is the [TS]

  fantastic element you know what what is [TS]

  the what is the appeal of these guys I [TS]

  mean other than that they're cute and [TS]

  that they don't know what an umbrella [TS]

  does a bunny [TS]

  my-my meta theory for the entire movie [TS]

  is that everything in this movie is [TS]

  about how children deal with the fact [TS]

  that their mother isn't there and every [TS]

  every thing in the movie including the [TS]

  totoro and all the other things is a [TS]

  manifestation of things that are inside [TS]

  these children that they have no [TS]

  facility to understand at all right and [TS]

  a lot of the things that the these [TS]

  feelings of the children's are have are [TS]

  having and these desires that they have [TS]

  everything manifest in these fantastical [TS]

  ways and in the same way when a child is [TS]

  watching this movie they don't know that [TS]

  the total rows and the stuff these [TS]

  children are fantasizing about in the [TS]

  sprites they don't know what part of the [TS]

  the internal life of the child those [TS]

  things are coming from or represent or [TS]

  our mirror image of they just know that [TS]

  how that guy's cute Oros its rights or [TS]

  front or whatever like even if its price [TS]

  which is the easiest one of like kids [TS]

  going into place that are afraid of the [TS]

  dark and the dark 10 you can become sort [TS]

  of this thing that's alive right well in [TS]

  a child's mind it is alive so what if [TS]

  you just had a living thing that was [TS]

  basically like darkness manifested in [TS]

  these little things that you're [TS]

  initially scared of and then they get [TS]

  used to it and they leave whatever kids [TS]

  aren't going to make that connection but [TS]

  they I feel like they will connect with [TS]

  the suit sprites as something they [TS]

  recognized in the same way towards big [TS]

  cute fuzzy thing but the total rows [TS]

  especially the big humongous one the [TS]

  smaller one coming to the big humongous [TS]

  totoro [TS]

  is like that feeling about your mom not [TS]

  being there and maybe she might never [TS]

  come back [TS]

  made manifest in this big giant thing [TS]

  and kids don't are gonna make that [TS]

  connection when they watch it but i [TS]

  would think that they would get some [TS]

  sort of unease about the idea of the [TS]

  mother being in the hospital depending [TS]

  on what kind of kid there and how old [TS]

  they are and that this big totoro thing [TS]

  I don't know what YouTube Merlin but [TS]

  like my daughter was very scared when I [TS]

  but it seemed when they meet the big [TS]

  tour of the first time she's always move [TS]

  it grandpa was like two and a half or [TS]

  whatever the growling in the big teeth [TS]

  yeah because he's got a big mountains Jo [TS]

  get stronger teeth and everything and [TS]

  are you know a lot of things that [TS]

  Miyazaki movies are like that we're like [TS]

  the goat think once the corn they draw [TS]

  that goat is a pretty scary-looking go [TS]

  to have elite than a realistic-looking [TS]

  face and stuff like that and an adult [TS]

  watches to like this is a big fuzzy [TS]

  thing and it made noises and it was a [TS]

  goat nothing right but a little kid [TS]

  watches that goat is terrifying the [TS]

  total opening his mouth is terrifying so [TS]

  here it is again they don't understand [TS]

  this is the embodiment of the children's [TS]

  fear about their mother but they do know [TS]

  there's actually something a little bit [TS]

  scary by the thing and then eventually [TS]

  they come around to it being a little [TS]

  bit friendlier like everything magical [TS]

  and interesting is also all scary to [TS]

  both the children in the movie in the [TS]

  children watching the movie create be [TS]

  great baby to piggyback on that yes I [TS]

  think that's a really good on unified [TS]

  field theory of totoro on but he has [TS]

  nothing interesting again you know help [TS]

  my daughter seen this movie a bunch of [TS]

  times it's one of our one of our go-to [TS]

  is it's up there with the with the [TS]

  incredibles as one of our like well if [TS]

  we can't agree will definitely watch [TS]

  this and everybody will be like pretty [TS]

  ok happy but but you know but again when [TS]

  we have there are guests over and she [TS]

  hadn't seen the surprise before she [TS]

  hadn't seen what happens after may looks [TS]

  under the house she hadn't seen what you [TS]

  know I guess I'm getting as they're [TS]

  they're part of part of the beauty of [TS]

  this movie is I don't know this is a [TS]

  japanese thing or miyazaki thing Josh [TS]

  think about mom [TS]

  the character of mom in halves are there [TS]

  so many different castles in the sand [TS]

  castle in the sky [TS]

  the one where she rides motorcycles [TS]

  right you know talking about the one [TS]

  with the higher the pirate mother [TS]

  oh yeah the castle in the sky or you [TS]

  know everything and everyone of these [TS]

  movies [TS]

  has these were so many themes obviously [TS]

  flying there's so many things that go [TS]

  through all these movies but there are [TS]

  so many things that at the first of all [TS]

  yes that a parent and a child will watch [TS]

  and get a really different vibe from [TS]

  like when not Kiki but what's how's [TS]

  Moving Castle when she first walked down [TS]

  that alley and those two guys are are [TS]

  talking to her and it becomes obvious [TS]

  for how comes up and kind of saves her [TS]

  that [TS]

  wow that those guys are more than creepy [TS]

  like those guys are predators like the [TS]

  kid might watch that and go oh like [TS]

  those are probably bad guys who are like [TS]

  giving her a hard time as a parent of a [TS]

  daughter i watch that scene went whoa [TS]

  like that's wild there's a little kid [TS]

  might watch this and I guess I'm you [TS]

  know in America we're so used to being [TS]

  banged over the head with the threat of [TS]

  death being right around the corner and [TS]

  that basically the death death is the [TS]

  car that gets played in so many things [TS]

  including with the parents and in movies [TS]

  but in this case I don't know where this [TS]

  comes from but again and again in this [TS]

  movie and so many miyazaki movies we see [TS]

  that there's really it's just something [TS]

  we don't understand yet it's something [TS]

  that's mysterious and it could end up [TS]

  being in chanting it could stay creepy [TS]

  but it is something that we can't [TS]

  completely understand and you know what [TS]

  by the time we get it you know an hour [TS]

  and a half later we still don't really [TS]

  understand what happened and we we made [TS]

  we may be scared we may be happy but it [TS]

  we isn't hot resolved and and I think in [TS]

  a typical again not to beat up on non [TS]

  miyazaki movies but in a lot of movies [TS]

  there is this this need to artificially [TS]

  clothes a lot of loops because it's [TS]

  essential to the story that those be [TS]

  close so like do we really understand [TS]

  like why did the tree go go away after [TS]

  the dream [TS]

  well it doesn't matter what matters is [TS]

  that there's something important and [TS]

  just back to the corn for a second i [TS]

  think one of the reasons the corn things [TS]

  started is when they're picking the corn [TS]

  doesn't granny say something about that [TS]

  all these veterans are you have to make [TS]

  your it'll make them healthier plants [TS]

  the plants the seed and little kids head [TS]

  very good but you don't have the same [TS]

  with the kids the kids remember and [TS]

  that's exactly right John and you end up [TS]

  playing this juvenile game of telephone [TS]

  were a little kid you know he's trying [TS]

  to understand the world and end up [TS]

  trying to make these connections but in [TS]

  this case things like the 64 [TS]

  see that turns on its really cute and [TS]

  it's really funny but but there's no [TS]

  need to go either like okay first of all [TS]

  the suits are totally like this suit [TS]

  gremlins are a hallucination because [TS]

  you're crazy little kid no that's not [TS]

  accurate [TS]

  your father says they might be real and [TS]

  you have stuff on your hands what did we [TS]

  resolve where there's actually some [TS]

  sprites on their hands [TS]

  well maybe maybe not you know that the [TS]

  total is real [TS]

  I don't know she got to the hospital but [TS]

  to think that would be maddening in most [TS]

  movies you know if you watch the james [TS]

  bond movie and like didn't understand [TS]

  like how he got across you know from one [TS]

  continent to the other drive you crazy [TS]

  well he's stepped into a phone booth and [TS]

  put in a coin and then the booth turned [TS]

  into a giant and the pig was suddenly in [TS]

  another country and then it was not a [TS]

  pig and he was in that country you'd be [TS]

  like what the hell just happened the [TS]

  sign by the mice light goes into [TS]

  Goldfinger place [TS]

  yeah they do in western movies when they [TS]

  do that they go way over the top and [TS]

  make it ok let's make it clear that this [TS]

  is all like the taking place in the mind [TS]

  of a child and on there it's totally [TS]

  fantastical and in some ways the colors [TS]

  and the cinematography never want to do [TS]

  something like this that's like more or [TS]

  less straightforward reality but with [TS]

  these fantastical elements made all that [TS]

  they stick out all the board because [TS]

  everything else like the house looks [TS]

  like a real house the bicycle was like a [TS]

  real bicycle people doing real jobs [TS]

  they're cooked their farming horizon the [TS]

  real way it's period-accurate for that [TS]

  places in Japan you know and then this [TS]

  like a cat bus right and that like I [TS]

  feel like I've sound just moving to a [TS]

  lot of adults who were not prepared and [TS]

  they disengaged else is engaged from [TS]

  this movie because they said all this is [TS]

  just some silly thing for kids it makes [TS]

  no sense because they you know they [TS]

  decided it's not a coherent narrative [TS]

  but i think it's entirely coherent as a [TS]

  representation of how children that age [TS]

  actually live where the line between [TS]

  what's real and what's fantasy like it's [TS]

  not there the the catbus is rendered [TS]

  just as realistically as the people you [TS]

  know planting the rice in the fields [TS]

  because as far as kids concerned they're [TS]

  both equally valid real totally like [TS]

  what they don't know what's weird they [TS]

  just know what they experience and so [TS]

  these fantastic like that was it a dream [TS]

  that happen in real life like doesn't [TS]

  matter that like that there [TS]

  whole life is like that everything in [TS]

  their life is a blur of things that [TS]

  might be real and that representative [TS]

  the way the world works and things that [TS]

  might be just a story that you did read [TS]

  you my we just did a my son's open house [TS]

  and he's in third grade and I was [TS]

  looking at his work for the year and he [TS]

  has all these things and he does this [TS]

  around the house to where you take a [TS]

  real element and then he sort of like [TS]

  spins these uh these what ifs like in [TS]

  fact I his teacher said that his reading [TS]

  comprehension probably is higher than [TS]

  his score would indicate because he gets [TS]

  so caught up in it that he just begins [TS]

  like riffing on and then what about this [TS]

  and then what if this happened and what [TS]

  if this happened then your kind of gone [TS]

  it's like he's into Fantasyland and I [TS]

  look at a scene even just seemed like [TS]

  that the famous scene where they're [TS]

  waiting at the bus stop in the end the [TS]

  giant totoro is there I that's like what [TS]

  if you're waiting at the bus stop and [TS]

  you an umbrella what would what would [TS]

  what would the totoro have would he have [TS]

  anything maybe he has a leaf on it said [TS]

  well what if we gave him an umbrella [TS]

  what do you know what it was what would [TS]

  he do what what if he jumped up and down [TS]

  a bunch of water fell on you know just [TS]

  like whoa [TS]

  we're just going to keep going with it [TS]

  and and that's when I describe these [TS]

  movies to people or i use this a lot in [TS]

  this podcast i use the word charming [TS]

  which I i don't use in real life [TS]

  actually but on this podcast I use it a [TS]

  lot which is there's that moment where [TS]

  you are under the spell and you're [TS]

  having a good time and it kinda doesn't [TS]

  matter it doesn't matter if these the [TS]

  miyazaki movies especially their they're [TS]

  so strong with the charm that it doesn't [TS]

  you know I just enjoy being in the world [TS]

  i like looking at the at the background [TS]

  I like that the shot of the water where [TS]

  you can see the stuff that's down in the [TS]

  running water as it as though as the [TS]

  water rushes over as they're walking to [TS]

  the house it's just this incredible [TS]

  detail that you don't normally see in in [TS]

  animation and then even with the things [TS]

  like the that how the total rows behave [TS]

  after you realize that the big toe is [TS]

  going to eat her [TS]

  they just are just friendly and charming [TS]

  and you're enjoying this experience and [TS]

  it does it does it always have to be [TS]

  advancing a story and do third there [TS]

  don't always need to be threats and evil [TS]

  people who are in a conflict is a very [TS]

  important part of drama [TS]

  this is true but it doesn't always have [TS]

  to be [TS]

  and it drama and this is this is that [TS]

  it's just kind of charming and pleasant [TS]

  and it's nice to be there and and I mean [TS]

  that's that's why that's why works for [TS]

  me [TS]

  funny you mention that because i'm [TS]

  looking at my notes right now in the [TS]

  second note right after the one that [TS]

  just says what just happened haha says [TS]

  totally charming [TS]

  ah look at that I was what I wanted to [TS]

  drink debrief you since you're you're a [TS]

  newbie to this 22 how how you experience [TS]

  this and what the hell you thought with [TS]

  your done with it because it's like [TS]

  what's happening is anything happening [TS]

  now that was nice [TS]

  yeah i watch the whole thing with this [TS]

  gigantic smile on my face because you [TS]

  really can't help it [TS]

  it is totally charming when the two [TS]

  girls the creatures every everybody's [TS]

  pretty much adorable too dad is even [TS]

  adorable although clearly either insane [TS]

  or you're hoping this kids die [TS]

  he's delusional he you know he might be [TS]

  wider than the flower store that's my [TS]

  parenting was like back then it was [TS]

  there in exile at the scene where [TS]

  they're they're outside on the tree when [TS]

  both of the girls are hanging with the [TS]

  totes ma and they're they're making the [TS]

  plants grow [TS]

  I feel like when he looks out the window [TS]

  there he actually kind of sees them [TS]

  because he is completely insane [TS]

  now the word the word I would use [TS]

  instead of charming about it was time [TS]

  does this thing that I seen a lot of [TS]

  anime is that a lot of anime is about [TS]

  the sensory experience of events more [TS]

  than the events themselves and a lot of [TS]

  the things that we end up labeling as [TS]

  charming are scenes in which the camera [TS]

  or the script or whatever focuses on [TS]

  sensory elements more than expedition or [TS]

  events or even character development so [TS]

  they're like if you go through totoro [TS]

  and just you can just freeze frame on 70 [TS]

  different scenes where y is the scene in [TS]

  the movie again because it shows the [TS]

  light reflecting off the little [TS]

  waterfall [TS]

  yeah why is this even though again [TS]

  because it shows how shiny and acorn is [TS]

  and how it rolls on the table like there [TS]

  you know and sometimes it's much longer [TS]

  like it like that it's really true I [TS]

  hadn't thought of that's totally true [TS]

  that allowed the loud sounds of the [TS]

  insects at night like what happens in [TS]

  the seem like they will bring you into [TS]

  sensory experiences that will that you [TS]

  will relate to just as much if not more [TS]

  than [TS]

  hey remember when this happened to you [TS]

  when you got into an argument or when [TS]

  someone chased or whatever this is like [TS]

  hey remember how water looks when it's [TS]

  flowing over a broken bottle like when [TS]

  may when my picks up the skate makes you [TS]

  know lunch for everybody and I this time [TS]

  in particular I guess I i noticed [TS]

  there's just a short little shot of May [TS]

  picks up her like a little bento box i [TS]

  guess yes she picks up for luncheon and [TS]

  with fish and the rice and she like goes [TS]

  and she can make say mmm face and that's [TS]

  all there is to it yet that's all there [TS]

  is to it [TS]

  it's just a sensory experience and maybe [TS]

  in again maybe I'm reading too much into [TS]

  it but you know she's that's a little [TS]

  bit of home and in that little box yeah [TS]

  you know there's all kinds of little [TS]

  sensory things where people just pause [TS]

  and and you know just and I don't know [TS]

  the translation this but just may [TS]

  standing there and holding a rusty [TS]

  bucket in her hand [TS]

  it's intended of course that classic [TS]

  line but she's holding this bucket hit [TS]

  her hand and it's just a shot of her [TS]

  staring through a rusty bucket and you [TS]

  get the sense and I immediately saw in [TS]

  that because I'm a parent himself [TS]

  involved is the same way that my [TS]

  daughter would go and explore area and [TS]

  pick up stuff that I would never in a [TS]

  million years pickup and the way she's [TS]

  running around that wonderful shot of [TS]

  her neglectful father looking at his [TS]

  body books what she runs around outside [TS]

  is just doing nothing in particular [TS]

  rings completely true because like you [TS]

  say John and like it's like kind of like [TS]

  we're all saying is that you know this [TS]

  is this is being a being a kid being [TS]

  being a human being is about trying to [TS]

  tell cut some kind of a story about the [TS]

  world that makes sense and that where [TS]

  you get to be a main character and [TS]

  you're trying to draw together these [TS]

  threads that may be completely unrelated [TS]

  i mean how many times you guessed the [TS]

  wrong lyrics to a song when you were a [TS]

  kid because you were just trying to you [TS]

  know get this thing right [TS]

  I you know I my daughter didn't [TS]

  understand because it's a Shinto when [TS]

  that when the girls are trying to get [TS]

  out of the rain [TS]

  you know in there and there and and ski [TS]

  talks to the statue and my daughter [TS]

  turns because she thinks that through [TS]

  his real first and I said now that's [TS]

  actually ate and then i realized i would [TS]

  have to explain this entire culture of [TS]

  you know what should be dead relatives [TS]

  and stuff you know but in this there's [TS]

  just it's just these little things you [TS]

  see a little kid standing in the rain [TS]

  and it sounds so corny but you know kids [TS]

  experience whether it's an earache or [TS]

  roller coaster or a large animal holding [TS]

  a leaf they experience everything so [TS]

  much more profoundly than we do they not [TS]

  they not you know have the nostalgia [TS]

  about [TS]

  about [TS]

  that we get but the kids feel things in [TS]

  a way much more in the moment and and [TS]

  fully I think the adults to and slowing [TS]

  this stuff down and putting it on these [TS]

  in these little tiny and small terms in [TS]

  these little tiny shots i think can make [TS]

  that come back to the surface for us too [TS]

  we watch it because we see in our kids [TS]

  but we also remember that from being a [TS]

  kit and holding up a bucket and saying [TS]

  stupid where the stupid bucket [TS]

  what a stupid bucket is that the line in [TS]

  the dub yeah I was it wasn't the [TS]

  original rusty bucket she says it's her [TS]

  this is a rusty bucket I don't think [TS]

  she's having a bucket i think is all she [TS]

  says she says this bucket is symbolic oh [TS]

  yeah and then the bus stop seem like [TS]

  when they're there when the rain is [TS]

  going on the total shows up the key [TS]

  century part of that scene is like and [TS]

  you can think back to when your kid even [TS]

  now when you have an umbrella over your [TS]

  head is a difference between the [TS]

  trickling rain and like the big drops of [TS]

  rain that shake off the general the [TS]

  satin and sound and how it started out [TS]

  can be startling for a bunch of rain to [TS]

  come down and make that noise and when [TS]

  you're a kid you're like maybe you're [TS]

  doing that for the first time to this [TS]

  two different sounds that the rain can [TS]

  make an umbrella is the drip drip brain [TS]

  of the rain going to the puddles and [TS]

  then there's when it shakes off of a [TS]

  tree because the tree collects larger [TS]

  drops and they slide off and you know [TS]

  the totoro takes advantage of that and [TS]

  once he realizes that tape as [TS]

  interesting sound let's make more of [TS]

  that that that's the sensory part of [TS]

  that in the drama in that scene is like [TS]

  oh here comes the whole bunch of water [TS]

  on top of it and maybe you don't think [TS]

  about that until like you're I don't [TS]

  having kids with you in this mindset [TS]

  here at the bus stop with your kids and [TS]

  you're holding the umbrella and the kids [TS]

  are holding their umbrellas and select [TS]

  the first time that they get to hold [TS]

  their own umbrella and the big droplets [TS]

  on their umbrella and they all get [TS]

  started and i'm excited by you realize [TS]

  that this is the thing and you know it [TS]

  it's kind of cliché tell you know the [TS]

  adults we take for granted all these [TS]

  things and the kids let us reconnect [TS]

  with our blah blah blah blah but like [TS]

  that's part of what this movie is about [TS]

  and it's it's accurate for the kids who [TS]

  are in the movie but I think it's also a [TS]

  real experience that the adults watching [TS]

  again they don't disengage can have by [TS]

  watching this movie you know one of the [TS]

  things that they say about the reason [TS]

  kids can get obsessed with you know [TS]

  whether it's like pokemon cards or you [TS]

  know anything where they wanna they want [TS]

  to know everything about some little [TS]

  thing is that is that the world is so [TS]

  vast and I know [TS]

  bowl and where's your kid you realize [TS]

  that that you basically don't know [TS]

  anything about anything and one natural [TS]

  reaction to that is to become very [TS]

  knowledgeable in some small thing just [TS]

  whatever it is it's like I know [TS]

  everything there is about this like for [TS]

  my son right now it's minecraft he [TS]

  talked to me a lot about Minecraft right [TS]

  and when I see the scene where they're [TS]

  waiting for the bus [TS]

  one of the other things that strikes me [TS]

  is that that's a scene where the the [TS]

  totoro is the proxy where the girls know [TS]

  about umbrellas the right and and they [TS]

  have to show him the umbrella and it's [TS]

  it's this nice thing where there you [TS]

  know he's this he's the wood spirit that [TS]

  they understand that the technology and [TS]

  and and you know he also has things to [TS]

  show them but I like that they're there [TS]

  in this position where they're like oh [TS]

  here and try this try this umbrella and [TS]

  and also by the way the whole is a [TS]

  dreamers it real [TS]

  where's the umbrella go to take seem [TS]

  real [TS]

  no yeah it just looks that in a movie oh [TS]

  he took that sunbrella yeah yeah like [TS]

  that that type of that scene spends a [TS]

  lot of time like letting them being [TS]

  sitting there in the dripping rain [TS]

  before chargers up [TS]

  yes you sort of build it up to the point [TS]

  where you realize there's your kids in [TS]

  there alone and it's getting dark and [TS]

  they're waiting for the dad we should [TS]

  have shown up already [TS]

  exactly and it's and it's raining that's [TS]

  why that's why i love i absolutely love [TS]

  that scene just because of the the way [TS]

  it's set up i mean the just the [TS]

  exquisite loneliness of that single [TS]

  light and it has nothing else but the [TS]

  darkness of the forest all around [TS]

  there's no sound but for the rain dad [TS]

  hasn't come on the first bus in there [TS]

  exactly a bus comes a bus comes and it's [TS]

  not his and am I getting on my own like [TS]

  and it's you think for a second Oh dad [TS]

  took a bike we have no idea where he got [TS]

  a bike but here it comes on the bike [TS]

  nope not dad and me is getting sleepy [TS]

  make it totally yes sorry is concerned [TS]

  about me getting sleepy because now [TS]

  you're gonna have a sleepy kid on your [TS]

  hands too [TS]

  they're at their absolute most [TS]

  vulnerable in that scene and that's I [TS]

  think that's that's why totoro shows up [TS]

  because right at that point that point [TS]

  soft skin needs needs that to get her [TS]

  through like the same way that may was [TS]

  more able to you [TS]

  channel you know her her anxiety into [TS]

  this total thing that later no one else [TS]

  could see that now many is that now sox [TS]

  she's there and she's got me into a lot [TS]

  of responsibility I think you mean [TS]

  that's why totoro chooses to appear to [TS]

  them then [TS]

  well but that's the thing it doesn't [TS]

  matter which it doesn't really matter [TS]

  which is like I'm not married to one [TS]

  interpretation but both of them work [TS]

  perfectly well and sure you don't you [TS]

  don't doesn't take anything from either [TS]

  one if even when he does show up for [TS]

  whatever reason and you know and he eat [TS]

  it you look down and the thing we always [TS]

  notice because Wolverine fans is his [TS]

  giant claws she looks she's got the [TS]

  umbrella is kind of concealing and you [TS]

  look down you see this horrific looking [TS]

  creature standing next to her [TS]

  that's what I got the sloth from those [TS]

  in Norma's right [TS]

  oh and it's so incongruous too because [TS]

  we've met these magical creatures in the [TS]

  tree right there there treif spirit they [TS]

  live in the trees they collect acorns [TS]

  all that stuff and then it's so funny to [TS]

  let's not forget that too that when he [TS]

  shows up here it's it's like what I'm [TS]

  waiting for a blood test which is [TS]

  probably waiting for a bus but there's [TS]

  only one they want damn it almost is it [TS]

  almost a shot like a horror film I mean [TS]

  you'd probably just about ram to go [TS]

  speaking foreign films that happened oh [TS]

  but yeah you just see this like this [TS]

  enormous claw kind of come in from the [TS]

  super started sneaking around the corner [TS]

  of the umbrella it's it's but think [TS]

  about it I mean I'm but it all the [TS]

  there's all this little pendulum of like [TS]

  a little bit scary and a little bit of [TS]

  relief it you know it isn't like you [TS]

  know Freddy Krueger's gonna jump into [TS]

  your dream or something just a little [TS]

  bit of scary and then a little bit of [TS]

  relief [TS]

  so in this case I mean to me one of my [TS]

  favorite scenes in the corner one of my [TS]

  favorite animated gifs is when totoro [TS]

  jumps and you know first it's kinda [TS]

  scary though you're thinking is he mad [TS]

  he like some kind of confused incredible [TS]

  hulk eric is everything he says is very [TS]

  loud and deep enough yeah but he's like [TS]

  always it that he's never been in rain [TS]

  18 he's angry and you're like what [TS]

  what's going on with the rain and then [TS]

  he jumps up in the air like the [TS]

  wonderful total away where he just jump [TS]

  straight up in the air comes down and [TS]

  then start getting that idiot grin on [TS]

  his face exactly is it has miyazaki grin [TS]

  and then the arm and then the girls if [TS]

  memory serves the girls [TS]

  as if they're on a tier board go flying [TS]

  up in the air when you have the ground [TS]

  and then all the rain comes down and [TS]

  you're like oh my God he's being playful [TS]

  like for no reason at all he's being [TS]

  playful and my favorite horror fixing in [TS]

  this movie is that obviously again with [TS]

  the goat and other things in miyazaki [TS]

  movies they will very frequently render [TS]

  some things startlingly realistic it's [TS]

  very pleasant but is accurate and this [TS]

  one it's when the cat buses in the tree [TS]

  with the girls at the end they could get [TS]

  the hospital they're sitting up in the [TS]

  tree looking down at the mom who's [TS]

  laughing everything's fine and they show [TS]

  the shot of the catbus in the tree with [TS]

  two girls and this cat bus has claws [TS]

  everywhere like it's wrapped its [TS]

  multiple limbs around this tree and it's [TS]

  just this giant Claude grinning heart [TS]

  was too cute little girls having a [TS]

  branch 13 frame that sometimes it looks [TS]

  like something out of a nightmare and [TS]

  that's because again when you're a [TS]

  little kid a lot of things that are [TS]

  normal and that you're comfortable with [TS]

  still have this edge of like scariness [TS]

  about them because things things look we [TS]

  really totally let's look at it like a [TS]

  turnip head turnip head and cat howls [TS]

  moving castle has that same like like at [TS]

  once delightful and completely [TS]

  disturbing like giant smile [TS]

  I you know I when I when I first moved [TS]

  to my neighborhood which is a lot of [TS]

  Asian people in it [TS]

  I i was asking some friends of mine like [TS]

  it's really strange like nobody smiles [TS]

  around here when you meet them and I [TS]

  don't know this is accurate but my [TS]

  boyfriend says well in i guess i'm just [TS]

  rip it supposedly in in China at it was [TS]

  considered a sign of weakness but you [TS]

  like you wouldn't open your mouth you [TS]

  wouldn't show your teeth you wouldn't [TS]

  it's just you remain kind of mute about [TS]

  it and I don't know that's that's [TS]

  applicable to hear but there's something [TS]

  really somebody who's smiling that much [TS]

  it looks like John Wayne Gacy you know [TS]

  is open yeah yeah it's got they've got [TS]

  to be up to something but didn't think I [TS]

  you know it's weird it's like yet notice [TS]

  the way that sake is animated she moves [TS]

  she moves very confidently she has very [TS]

  kind of light footfall but she is also [TS]

  kind of a weird hesitation to the way [TS]

  that she moves like when she shall run a [TS]

  little bit and she'll stop and it will [TS]

  be this weird hesitation and i love the [TS]

  scene when she first steps on the catbus [TS]

  because let's be honest she's stepping [TS]

  onto a giant what eight-legged can just [TS]

  that into a giant eight [TS]

  like it's going to the little little [TS]

  sound and she gets in but in around she [TS]

  gets in and it's a cat like the floor [TS]

  gives she sits down and kind of scooches [TS]

  into the seat but which is an [TS]

  abbreviation she's in it to super creepy [TS]

  but it's a great baby [TS]

  maybe the most by far the most [TS]

  disconcerting thing about the catbus is [TS]

  towards the end when he jumps off the [TS]

  electrical wires and you can very [TS]

  clearly see that it is a boy cat bus and [TS]

  you know it's it's a tomcat bus [TS]

  oh boy is it ever I did not notice that [TS]

  I'm gonna go back is hosted the sorts of [TS]

  things that i noticed because i am a [TS]

  student film [TS]

  yes good enough thanks to view CA and it [TS]

  speaks to a culture that's not concerned [TS]

  he brings fresh eyes [TS]

  Jason fresh ideas what it is they put me [TS]

  his head in front of the the final i [TS]

  noticed that it was those tables heart [TS]

  fully framed [TS]

  yep if only they had done so for the cat [TS]

  and in Japan they just all get naked and [TS]

  take a bath together here we don't do [TS]

  that i don't think i don't think my kids [TS]

  found that to start because they brought [TS]

  home and make it all over the house and [TS]

  you know where were ya i'm still not [TS]

  ready like questions about Japanese [TS]

  culture for when I was a little kid I [TS]

  would have found that extremely strange [TS]

  i mean we have a different kind of [TS]

  household and then when I was a little [TS]

  kid thank God but but but also i mean [TS]

  think about that think about explain to [TS]

  your kid like oh wait a minute [TS]

  so this house is is literally falling [TS]

  apart regardless of the translation this [TS]

  house is not in great condition [TS]

  it may have it may have a variety of [TS]

  different ghosts it's definitely got [TS]

  acorns falling from the ceiling and a [TS]

  really gonna be old lady in it but it's [TS]

  got what two she's got to do bathtubs [TS]

  and like a swinging to hurt they have an [TS]

  entire like it seems good third of the [TS]

  house is dedicated to the bathroom [TS]

  that's because as least in my [TS]

  understanding in Japan bathing can be a [TS]

  much more social experience it's more [TS]

  than just washing yourself it's like a [TS]

  hangout thing right now is that accurate [TS]

  I'll alternate you are an animal and all [TS]

  hang out the tub as far as I could tell [TS]

  he's all laid out i think it's i thought [TS]

  it was I thought it was really sweet [TS]

  that was 1i think one of the least [TS]

  confusing things too [TS]

  I didn't really explain that you know [TS]

  that right that's just like i like the [TS]

  fact that they're in the carbon and the [TS]

  had the wind is blowing the house and [TS]

  then the father to spend another screams [TS]

  are spots more elastic scared just to [TS]

  scare away he looks insane when he does [TS]

  it John but she looks a little crazy [TS]

  when he does he's totally bent I've [TS]

  pointed this out he is completely off [TS]

  his rocker [TS]

  I think that's a cultural thing though [TS]

  i'm just guessing i'm not i have no idea [TS]

  of insanity and adult males no no like [TS]

  the whole idea that you will if you're [TS]

  that if you're scared that you will [TS]

  scare away the spirits by yourself [TS]

  fierce and it's an activity to do with [TS]

  little kids who are scared to you know [TS]

  like what if we just make loud noises [TS]

  the scariest one way but in general is [TS]

  likely you're in a rickety house and its [TS]

  really windy and when it gets really [TS]

  windy outside young children worried [TS]

  that the house is gonna fall down right [TS]

  in this case with the shots from the [TS]

  outside maybe the tin roof is going to [TS]

  come off or whatever but like that just [TS]

  the sound design and that scene of like [TS]

  she's outside gathering wood and the [TS]

  wind blows out of her hand and the [TS]

  difference in sound from going outside [TS]

  getting the wood to being inside and be [TS]

  like the comfort of Okinawa inside the [TS]

  sheltered place and it's comma and then [TS]

  I'm in the bath with my dad but then [TS]

  it's still a little bit scary in the [TS]

  house shakes but at least we're all here [TS]

  together that's when she like rinses off [TS]

  and jumps back into the tub so she can [TS]

  be closer to her dad [TS]

  that's all I thought that was all very [TS]

  sweet and he's probably out probably [TS]

  would come off as more creepy if not [TS]

  have done in a western movie baby you [TS]

  know i don't i'm sorry the translations [TS]

  wrong but I love that scene i love that [TS]

  ya know that's a good dog like I was it [TS]

  has characterizations that the other one [TS]

  that stands out for me and the dub is [TS]

  the part where they make up a [TS]

  description of the like you're hearing [TS]

  Sasuke's voice as the mother reads her [TS]

  letter [TS]

  here's picture of me as a crap there's a [TS]

  crab is not which is not it was like it [TS]

  has to do with like her squatting down [TS]

  in front of the plants and in the sub [TS]

  and assuming the subs accurate but in [TS]

  the dub it's like oh she's getting [TS]

  crabby and here's a picture of her as a [TS]

  craft like but when they choose to ended [TS]

  in the dub make a different joke then [TS]

  was in the original movie if the [TS]

  different joke is also funny thumbs up [TS]

  like I'm not saying has to be a slave [TS]

  Ashley translated from the original [TS]

  japanese i think the the delivery like a [TS]

  delivery on creepy is adorable i think [TS]

  which is why we keep repeating it and [TS]

  things like here's a picture of me as a [TS]

  crap that line crack me up [TS]

  the first time I saw the dump and I [TS]

  still smile when I see it so it's not as [TS]

  if you have to you know my daughter [TS]

  still my daughter still points it out [TS]

  every time which means no it's not it's [TS]

  made an impression [TS]

  yeah well what about I mean I'm to show [TS]

  but but well percent for me this also [TS]

  really starts to come together there is [TS]

  the like I think it's admittedly like [TS]

  the really dramatic idea that like [TS]

  there's a moment where we're not sure [TS]

  what's going on with me but I for me [TS]

  like it's all of that slow burn and you [TS]

  know the intellectual payoff of this i [TS]

  don't know there's the when finally when [TS]

  she finally goes and she's asking the [TS]

  totoro for help [TS]

  it'sit's that everything from then on in [TS]

  the movie is is not merely like [TS]

  intellectually satisfying and as we say [TS]

  charming it's completely exhilarating to [TS]

  me when he when he jumps up out of the [TS]

  tree i just want to pump my fist like [TS]

  this is so cool and you know anyone he [TS]

  is a he puts the clawed hand around her [TS]

  and goes straight up the tree and and [TS]

  calls the catbus and it's just one thing [TS]

  after another after that I just find it [TS]

  they pass over the people that are [TS]

  looking for me it's just I think it's [TS]

  wonderful years a bit that actually [TS]

  would call sharma's when the to the [TS]

  catbus fines may and the two of them run [TS]

  from opposite sides in the front of the [TS]

  campuses face and I the Icefall did you [TS]

  oh yeah and they meet in the middle on [TS]

  that level cap bus goes cross-eyed that [TS]

  and the other little Q of like you know [TS]

  they find the corner of the window so [TS]

  Allah says it looks as to mommy and then [TS]

  they cut the suit the scene of the [TS]

  catbus running and profile which is the [TS]

  one part time they do kind of a [TS]

  bombastic musical crew and the catbus is [TS]

  just running and they're both on it and [TS]

  they're both smiling and they're both on [TS]

  the fuzzy cats eat like who doesn't want [TS]

  to be inside a fuzzy cat perfectly [TS]

  contented ok as music plays as you race [TS]

  yeah like that'll do it is the ultimate [TS]

  you know the ultimate high for a 5 into [TS]

  your own girl but I hope that what [TS]

  they're doing is going this is what [TS]

  bothered me they're sitting there at the [TS]

  hospital I mean obviously what's [TS]

  important to them is that they check up [TS]

  on mom [TS]

  meanwhile there's a whole city dragging [TS]

  the lake that thinks that island is dead [TS]

  and I trying to find your peace to that [TS]

  is that the darkest part of this movie [TS]

  for me is and the kids don't notice [TS]

  is that they're they're searching the [TS]

  pond with poles yeah and I think kids [TS]

  think they're gonna they're searching [TS]

  for the girl to find them know they're [TS]

  searching for major body because you [TS]

  don't find anything in a lake with a [TS]

  pole that's alive [TS]

  no no thatthat's that dark that's the [TS]

  darkest spotted this entire movies is [TS]

  that moment of like well maybe she [TS]

  drowned [TS]

  yeah and like and sasuke running as the [TS]

  Sun sets with her dirty knees and taking [TS]

  off her shoes and like you just feel [TS]

  like I can feel her heart beating don't [TS]

  know how long have a lot how long have [TS]

  you lost one of your children like the [TS]

  longest I've think I've lost my kids for [TS]

  maybe like three minutes and 20 seconds [TS]

  or something that three words in 20 [TS]

  seconds is like the amount i know it's [TS]

  not the same thing I had a 30 seconds 30 [TS]

  seconds at a target two weeks ago that i [TS]

  thought was gonna have a heart attack my [TS]

  son disappeared on us at universal [TS]

  islands of adventure he was playing in [TS]

  one of the one of the play areas and [TS]

  it's the one right by the raft ride and [TS]

  he disappeared on us and was gone for it [TS]

  must have been 20 to 30 minutes before [TS]

  we local how many and by the time I [TS]

  found him he was maybe a half way around [TS]

  the park you know it's just kind of set [TS]

  up in a big circle y absolutely [TS]

  terrifying and did have some corn did [TS]

  not have corn [TS]

  I wish he had I could have used some [TS]

  corn after I said that would have been [TS]

  good [TS]

  yeah it's it it is a yeah there's [TS]

  indefinitely resonates having having [TS]

  just gone through that fairly recently [TS]

  because you know it was the raft ride on [TS]

  your mind your mind because I mean like [TS]

  it's like how he could easily have [TS]

  toppled in nobody would have heard it [TS]

  because it's fairly loud through there [TS]

  and my wife was in a part of town today [TS]

  where the find my friends like she [TS]

  wasn't getting a signal and I should [TS]

  said this is where she was one hour ago [TS]

  and i immediately thought she was dead [TS]

  yes that's exactly where your head goes [TS]

  I've done that yes exactly we had was [TS]

  like okay so in this case a minute ago [TS]

  on my kid was looking at [TS]

  at war machine masks in the toy section [TS]

  i said let's go i took a few steps and [TS]

  now i'm pretty sure like she's entirely [TS]

  now they're Japanese farmers with exact [TS]

  expenditure precisely [TS]

  yeah yeah I'm okay I'm but I'm i realize [TS]

  we're probably going a little longer [TS]

  right we're running out of time yes go [TS]

  ahead i just wanted to I don't want to [TS]

  dwell i mean i think i feel i feel so [TS]

  silly now because I consider myself a [TS]

  scholar of this film we're really maybe [TS]

  I don't know fan or super fan but now I [TS]

  realize how much how different it is in [TS]

  the as as 70 siracusa would say the [TS]

  subversive the dub the father [TS]

  wow so different the mother might my [TS]

  wife does a couple really good at [TS]

  impersonations just a great [TS]

  impersonation of of uh well all you need [TS]

  to know here she does a great [TS]

  impersonation of the mother from from [TS]

  this movie you know it LOL her really [TS]

  super weird line in the double belly i [TS]

  want to get i'm going to get better and [TS]

  come [TS]

  oh yeah and she and and like an American [TS]

  movie normally you hear someone speaking [TS]

  like that and you go oh my god they're [TS]

  so gonna die [TS]

  uh yeah they're crazy and and the mother [TS]

  the mother in the infant in the non dub [TS]

  version is so much more saying she [TS]

  sounds so much one of the sake sounds [TS]

  younger than the dub the father he [TS]

  sounds like maybe not quite as smart and [TS]

  a little sterner equally crazy but [TS]

  anyway I don't want that so I'm terribly [TS]

  sick to be honest I think she just wants [TS]

  a break from her insane husband what she [TS]

  was she writing when they bring in which [TS]

  to raise their journal what is she [TS]

  writing it was your running everything [TS]

  when they could they come in and just [TS]

  scribble something in a notebook [TS]

  I'm just saying there might be something [TS]

  going on here dear diary I am so glad [TS]

  i'm not at that house right [TS]

  my husband is so irresponsible i hope [TS]

  the kids aren't dead but i'm glad to [TS]

  finally have two minutes to my cells in [TS]

  the tub my kids probably more corn that [TS]

  I hate corn [TS]

  why did you bring me some sort of rotted [TS]

  out house and here come the farmers a [TS]

  sloth [TS]

  yes the sort of thing he do that's it i [TS]

  had a dream tonight of a monster that [TS]

  lives in the trees and killed the [TS]

  where's my corn I hope we have none of [TS]

  that it's really all the moms story is [TS]

  heard in their dreams of murder maybe [TS]

  funny feeling back in Tokyo he was doing [TS]

  all this stuff though you know you just [TS]

  let her wander around Tokyo and in [TS]

  worship a tree found go down to the [TS]

  flower shop this work there for a while [TS]

  so Steve before we go [TS]

  yeah we made you so we made you watch [TS]

  this crazy movie you have any other any [TS]

  other thoughts about every other than I [TS]

  mean it seems like you had a pretty ok [TS]

  time you know like I said I was charmed [TS]

  by it i really enjoyed watching it i'm [TS]

  still not sure how much I like it to be [TS]

  honest and maybe it's just that I'm I'm [TS]

  ruined by American films you know I've [TS]

  seen too many since your first means [TS]

  your first miyazaki my first miyazaki at [TS]

  all wow that India is a long it's a long [TS]

  ramp to figure it out i think Twitter is [TS]

  actually the most challenging for adults [TS]

  because it doesn't have doesn't conform [TS]

  or anything but like I think it's the [TS]

  most pure miyazaki movie in that once [TS]

  you watch the whole bunch of you can [TS]

  kind of figure out where he's going with [TS]

  all his stuff [TS]

  this is like the the sort of meditative [TS]

  distillation of it all like it's all [TS]

  there in the movie like but it doesn't [TS]

  just doesn't seem like there's a world I [TS]

  think this movie is the type of thing [TS]

  that will unfold for you in an [TS]

  unconventional way over time if you give [TS]

  it a chance and it does help to watch it [TS]

  repeatedly with kids who relate to it in [TS]

  a different way but it's not it's yeah i [TS]

  think it's both the most challenging and [TS]

  the most pure of his movies because it [TS]

  it issues a lot of the stuff that we [TS]

  normally expect to have a movie when [TS]

  that's all gone all you're left with is [TS]

  this weird center you just don't want to [TS]

  do with it you just kind of bobble in [TS]

  your hands all set for me the problem is [TS]

  that because so little seems to be [TS]

  happening at any given time [TS]

  the closest point of reference for me is [TS]

  some of these preschool TV shows that [TS]

  come on where there's I don't know some [TS]

  sort of anthropomorphic creature and you [TS]

  just kind of wanders around and you know [TS]

  nothing much happens in those and in [TS]

  this almost felt to me like they took [TS]

  three of those episodes of some you know [TS]

  preschoolers show and stuck them [TS]

  back-to-back you know there's one where [TS]

  they move into the house and they know [TS]

  there's the one where they frolic with [TS]

  the totoro totally this is the one where [TS]

  may got lost and [TS]

  and they just clamp them together and on [TS]

  the second watch through some of that [TS]

  had gone away and i think it will [TS]

  continue to as i watch it more but that [TS]

  I think the main thing for me is I'm [TS]

  gonna have to have to sit down and watch [TS]

  with my kids and see what they yeah yeah [TS]

  and hopefully they haven't been ruined [TS]

  by too much disney well and I think [TS]

  about it the more I think the more you [TS]

  watch it the more the superstructure of [TS]

  the like that the mother situation and [TS]

  the kids the more like those mountains [TS]

  that are underneath this notion of [TS]

  stillwater start to like you start to [TS]

  sense those mountains under the bottom [TS]

  like the ocean is like one big flat [TS]

  thing we don't realize this huge [TS]

  mountain ranges under their it and I [TS]

  think the more I watch this movie the [TS]

  more like this it's not a series of [TS]

  small little skin even looks like one [TS]

  there's this huge mountain range [TS]

  underneath the surface of all the stuff [TS]

  and that as i watch it over and over [TS]

  again I just feel that thing underneath [TS]

  everything that's there [TS]

  yeah more than that the service of which [TS]

  I continue to enjoy and it's fun and [TS]

  everything but like that's what I think [TS]

  happens i repeated viewings that I all I [TS]

  see now i watch this movie is the little [TS]

  sensory moments and the underwater [TS]

  mountain range that's what I that's what [TS]

  i get when i watch the movie now I did [TS]

  pick up on that stuff but it was it's so [TS]

  subtle that you know maybe my edited [TS]

  yeah just keep watching because like the [TS]

  big lebowski i would actually recommend [TS]

  I've only seen I think 45 miyazaki [TS]

  movies but I mean watching I'm always [TS]

  disinclined to say we you know you're [TS]

  watching five times [TS]

  see also be hope ascii but I mean 22 [TS]

  others off the top of my head I mean [TS]

  they know da is spirited away which is [TS]

  really quite something and really in [TS]

  some ways really not for kids in a lot [TS]

  of ways yeah sorry that's pretty was [TS]

  pretty challenging to the it was good [TS]

  that was good i was gonna say that's the [TS]

  one if you really want like wow this is [TS]

  this is pretty dope Rivera kind of stuff [TS]

  but didn't when I would say it's yeah [TS]

  maybe it's movie maybe not but i would [TS]

  say castle in the sky is is at you know [TS]

  to me like Howl's Moving Castle kiki's [TS]

  delivery service are two that are really [TS]

  great smart kids ish movies but castle [TS]

  in the sky is is a you know maybe snow [TS]

  incredibles but it's a really I think [TS]

  it's a terrific adventure story and [TS]

  again the kids in it are are pretty [TS]

  great on Kiki's Delivery Service right [TS]

  are you that sign one about sending your [TS]

  thirteen-year-old which daughter off to [TS]

  the big city [TS]

  I [TS]

  no iru but I mean the case and that's [TS]

  that's my favorite [TS]

  by the way I love that Kiki so whenever [TS]

  as well yeah that one to Steve that may [TS]

  be where I go next I was gonna say if [TS]

  you want to go conventional like Castle [TS]

  Skye are knowledgeable and other guy [TS]

  thing is even more conventional busy [TS]

  watching always good and you're like [TS]

  okay this could have been made by [TS]

  supergenius talented Western people [TS]

  yeah it's like yeah it's a young girls [TS]

  adventure story yeah because it like it [TS]

  is a hundred percent miyazaki but if you [TS]

  watch if you watch totoro and then [TS]

  you're watching cause you're like this [TS]

  was the same guy i mean you get [TS]

  aesthetically that it was the same guy [TS]

  but it is very straightforward as you [TS]

  know except for the fact that has a [TS]

  female protagonist that doesn't marry [TS]

  someone at the end like not notice the [TS]

  color cast most guys are both kids [TS]

  adventure movies that have something [TS]

  deeper to them that you will feel [TS]

  comfortable you'll have something to [TS]

  hang your hat on and both of those [TS]

  movies where as spirited away you will [TS]

  not know what to do with your hat [TS]

  alright we're going to close up the [TS]

  incomparable for now this has been a [TS]

  good conversation that we should we [TS]

  should do it again about some other [TS]

  beloved people over movie you're right [TS]

  way you're right John John we did the [TS]

  weed you all miyazaki in one episode [TS]

  thing so we could revisit Kiki maybe [TS]

  down the road to when it comes on [TS]

  blu-ray which it hasn't yet which makes [TS]

  me sad because I have a blu-ray player [TS]

  and I'd be happy to see a pretty HD [TS]

  version of this legally anyway I want to [TS]

  thank my guests for coming here and [TS]

  talking about about our our neighbor [TS]

  totoro buddy [TS]

  totoro Steve lots thanks for coming and [TS]

  thanks for exploring this new world of [TS]

  miyazaki with us it's been charming [TS]

  Jason that's charming [TS]

  that's lovely with this there's no bomb [TS]

  antagonist in this episode either an [TS]

  outdoor it does anything happen or is [TS]

  there apply Merlin Mann thank you for [TS]

  coming back thank you it's my pleasure [TS]

  it's been turning this was a lot of fun [TS]

  charmed I'm sure [TS]

  and John siracusa thank you [TS]

  every time we talk anime i will be there [TS]

  I know I wonder what will be next [TS]

  maybe you'll have to assign some more [TS]

  viewing for us [TS]

  I have [TS]

  king of my anime 12 curriculum a good [TS]

  excellent Thank You professor [TS]

  alright until next time on the [TS]

  uncomfortable i have been your host [TS]

  Jason Snell thanks for listening [TS]

  had two girls and their father move into [TS]

  a crappy old house by a big tree some [TS]

  black Koosh balls run away from them [TS]

  huh they meet a giant retarded bipedal [TS]

  slot of the frolic and stuff [TS]

  dad's bus is late the slot steals their [TS]

  umbrella and a frog burps later their [TS]

  mom maybe has a cold so they take a cat [TS]

  bus which is pretty much what it sounds [TS]

  like and find out that yep it's a cold [TS]

  they leave their mom some corn but my [TS]

  people call it maize and blue [TS]