Cortex 60: CorteX


00:00:00   so great you thought stickers were bad [TS]

00:00:02   hmm we are now living in the world of [TS]

00:00:04   animated emoji and emojis here gray how [TS]

00:00:07   do you feel about an emoji I have mixed [TS]

00:00:15   feelings [TS]

00:00:15   I have mixed feelings oh ok so we're not [TS]

00:00:18   we're not like in a world of hating on [TS]

00:00:20   it necessarily no we're not in a world [TS]

00:00:22   of hating on an emojis I mean would it [TS]

00:00:25   be possible to hate on an emojis [TS]

00:00:28   entirely I don't know his robot face [TS]

00:00:30   it's it's pretty cute I'm just noticing [TS]

00:00:32   now as I'm looking at an emojis on my [TS]

00:00:35   phone that the robot face the triangle [TS]

00:00:37   nose you can make you can make the nose [TS]

00:00:39   move back and forth it's not obvious [TS]

00:00:43   that you're playing with an emoji right [TS]

00:00:44   now yeah this is yeah nothing but 100% [TS]

00:00:49   focus here but yeah you if you screw [TS]

00:00:52   your mouth in a very exaggerated manner [TS]

00:00:55   you can make the little triangle on the [TS]

00:00:58   robot's nose move back and forth this is [TS]

00:01:01   the future Mike iPhone X welcome to the [TS]

00:01:04   future the future is animated animated [TS]

00:01:08   emojis so as well as the wonder of an [TS]

00:01:11   emoji which honestly is high up there as [TS]

00:01:15   one of my favorite features of the [TS]

00:01:16   iPhone 10 we obviously both have one and [TS]

00:01:21   one of the questions that I have for you [TS]

00:01:23   about the iPhone 10 is if the size of [TS]

00:01:27   this phone does a better job of fitting [TS]

00:01:29   within your optimum size for an iPhone [TS]

00:01:32   yeah so these past many years I've been [TS]

00:01:37   unhappy with iPhone sizes regular iPhone [TS]

00:01:40   too small [TS]

00:01:41   plus too big and I've had this now for I [TS]

00:01:47   guess was it been like five days six [TS]

00:01:50   days a week is effectively a week we've [TS]

00:01:52   needed a cautious thumbs up I think I [TS]

00:01:55   think I like it but I'm also aware that [TS]

00:01:57   with the sizes of the other phones it's [TS]

00:02:00   the it's the little things over longer [TS]

00:02:03   periods of time that eventually become [TS]

00:02:05   intolerable that that make you start [TS]

00:02:07   being annoyed by phone size but so far [TS]

00:02:10   I'm pretty happy and [TS]

00:02:14   the one place where the phone size [TS]

00:02:16   really struck me a magical moment was [TS]

00:02:20   coming from being a plus user I had the [TS]

00:02:24   iPhone X in my pocket I was getting [TS]

00:02:26   ready in the morning to go out go to go [TS]

00:02:28   to work and I sat down in a chair to put [TS]

00:02:33   on my shoes to tie my shoelaces and I [TS]

00:02:36   realized oh I don't have to take the [TS]

00:02:38   phone out of my pocket to comfortably be [TS]

00:02:42   able to reach over and tie my shoes out [TS]

00:02:45   Incredible Hulk the situation and just [TS]

00:02:46   like rip your jeans and off because the [TS]

00:02:48   phones trying to break out yeah it's a [TS]

00:02:51   thing that I had never quite realized [TS]

00:02:53   that I do that I had gotten in a habit [TS]

00:02:54   of taking the phone out of my pocket [TS]

00:02:56   before putting on my shoes and tie my [TS]

00:02:58   shoelaces or always regretting it if I [TS]

00:03:00   forgot and it was like oh wow what a [TS]

00:03:02   delightful experience like I can I can [TS]

00:03:04   reasonably Bend with the phone in my [TS]

00:03:06   pocket without it being uncomfortable so [TS]

00:03:08   for that alone is like oh thank you so [TS]

00:03:10   much iPhone X this is way better I [TS]

00:03:12   really appreciate this in terms of size [TS]

00:03:14   so pocket size I am much happier [TS]

00:03:18   handling size like I said I'm giving it [TS]

00:03:21   a mediocre thumbs up for now I suspect [TS]

00:03:24   I'm going to be really happy with this [TS]

00:03:25   but I just don't want to go all-in on [TS]

00:03:27   saying like oh this size is perfectly [TS]

00:03:29   fantastic when I know it can sometimes [TS]

00:03:30   take a little while to really settle [TS]

00:03:34   into a new phone size as a device how [TS]

00:03:39   are you finding it though Mike you were [TS]

00:03:41   the what would I want to say like [TS]

00:03:44   proprietor founder of the Plus Club [TS]

00:03:47   mm-hmm lo these many years ago how are [TS]

00:03:51   you finding it going down and insights [TS]

00:03:53   turning in your top hat as chief Pumbaa [TS]

00:03:58   of the Plus Club and going to the excise [TS]

00:04:00   how do you find it I love it actually [TS]

00:04:03   yeah I honestly don't feel like there's [TS]

00:04:06   a difference [TS]

00:04:06   like when I'm using it like from a [TS]

00:04:08   screen size perspective which is what I [TS]

00:04:10   was always wanting like I just wanted [TS]

00:04:12   the most information on my phone screen [TS]

00:04:13   as I could possibly get and I really [TS]

00:04:15   feel like the 10 delivers on that like [TS]

00:04:17   I've I've done some tests of it like [TS]

00:04:20   looking at like how many emails can I [TS]

00:04:21   see how much how many tweets can I see [TS]

00:04:23   on a screen [TS]

00:04:24   how mining glowing lines of notes enter [TS]

00:04:26   notes [TS]

00:04:26   and by and large it's exactly the same [TS]

00:04:29   amount was the plus so hmm I get the [TS]

00:04:32   same kind of information density in most [TS]

00:04:35   instances in a much smaller phone so in [TS]

00:04:38   regards to moving away from the Plus [TS]

00:04:40   Club it's working fine for me like I'm [TS]

00:04:43   having no problem with it like if and [TS]

00:04:45   when Apple makes a bigger version of [TS]

00:04:47   these will I move again yeah well [TS]

00:04:49   because I always just want the biggest [TS]

00:04:51   screen I can have that's what I want [TS]

00:04:54   from my iphone is just to have the [TS]

00:04:55   biggest screen possible because whenever [TS]

00:04:57   I'm using it for anything I always want [TS]

00:04:59   more screen like it's spoon you know I [TS]

00:05:01   would want to see the ideal for me is [TS]

00:05:04   like the size of the iPhone plus but [TS]

00:05:06   with a screen like the iPhone 10 that [TS]

00:05:09   would be that would be like incredible [TS]

00:05:11   what if they put a cellular chip in an [TS]

00:05:13   ipad mini iPad minis too big it's still [TS]

00:05:16   gonna fit in my jeans pocket and like [TS]

00:05:18   okay I know that like that it can be [TS]

00:05:20   tricky [TS]

00:05:21   right like it could win cuz you can't [TS]

00:05:22   already get cell connected iPad minis [TS]

00:05:23   right but the ID the plus phone will [TS]

00:05:28   still fit in my pocket right and that's [TS]

00:05:30   that's what I want I still want to be [TS]

00:05:31   able to put in my pocket so that's the [TS]

00:05:33   upper limit we're reaching here is the [TS]

00:05:35   volume of your pocket exactly because [TS]

00:05:37   anything that can't fit in my pocket in [TS]

00:05:39   my opinion it's not a fun alright it's [TS]

00:05:41   something else at that point if you need [TS]

00:05:44   if you need a bag for it to take it [TS]

00:05:46   somewhere it's not a phone then it's not [TS]

00:05:48   a fun or it's a very very old phone yeah [TS]

00:05:50   I know that it's different for ladies [TS]

00:05:52   right because ladies pockets are smaller [TS]

00:05:54   and they put their phones in bags but [TS]

00:05:57   for me like I don't want to take a bag [TS]

00:05:59   so it has to fit in my pocket huh but [TS]

00:06:02   from an overall hardware perspective [TS]

00:06:05   this is my favorite iPhone of all time [TS]

00:06:07   when did you begin your journey with [TS]

00:06:09   iPhones what was the first one you had [TS]

00:06:11   the original oh wow okay alright at this [TS]

00:06:14   tire free iPhone except the 3GS I didn't [TS]

00:06:17   realize that wow I'm eight now of course [TS]

00:06:19   well I'm not 100% sure that that counts [TS]

00:06:23   but okay alright that's interesting I've [TS]

00:06:25   had a phone in every revision right [TS]

00:06:27   except the 3GS I didn't get three years [TS]

00:06:29   hmm cuz I think all it did was add speed [TS]

00:06:31   and video recording which wasn't enough [TS]

00:06:33   for me okay [TS]

00:06:34   not enough of an upgrade for you not [TS]

00:06:36   then because it was harder for me to [TS]

00:06:38   afford the phones right [TS]

00:06:40   I was much younger hmm well then since [TS]

00:06:43   you started at the beginning I started [TS]

00:06:44   in the four line you're the perfect [TS]

00:06:46   person to ask because I'm looking at the [TS]

00:06:49   phones and I feel like they're doing an [TS]

00:06:54   intentional call back to the first phone [TS]

00:06:57   but I I don't think I've ever even [TS]

00:06:59   handled an original iPhone let alone [TS]

00:07:02   ever owned one so I've only seen [TS]

00:07:05   pictures of it [TS]

00:07:06   I just got I'm kind of what I like do [TS]

00:07:07   you do you think that if that impression [TS]

00:07:08   is Right like if there's something about [TS]

00:07:11   the curves particularly on what I've [TS]

00:07:13   seen of the silver versions it's like it [TS]

00:07:15   looks like it it just looks reminiscent [TS]

00:07:18   of the original iPhone in the hardware [TS]

00:07:19   design so there are a couple of elements [TS]

00:07:22   of the ten that call back to two in my [TS]

00:07:27   mind [TS]

00:07:27   iPhones and like two classic designs so [TS]

00:07:29   there is kind of the one of the original [TS]

00:07:32   where even though it had an aluminium [TS]

00:07:33   back it had like a polished frame that [TS]

00:07:37   went around the glass so when you were [TS]

00:07:39   looking at it it was shiny [TS]

00:07:40   I actually off the top of my head I [TS]

00:07:42   can't remember what that material was [TS]

00:07:45   whoever it was a metal or a plastic or [TS]

00:07:47   whatever that went around the edge of [TS]

00:07:48   the screen but when you looked at it it [TS]

00:07:50   was shiny like how if you have the [TS]

00:07:51   silver iPhone 10 the stainless steel was [TS]

00:07:55   shiny and it looks like that right so [TS]

00:07:56   it's reminiscent of that and there's a [TS]

00:07:58   lot more you know the edges are curvier [TS]

00:08:00   these days than they have been in the [TS]

00:08:02   past but then also the iPhone 4 which is [TS]

00:08:05   considered by many to be the [TS]

00:08:07   best-looking iPhone had glass front and [TS]

00:08:09   back like this phone does so this the [TS]

00:08:13   iPhone 10 reminds me of both of those [TS]

00:08:16   phones like the original a little bit [TS]

00:08:18   because of the shiny border that went [TS]

00:08:20   around the outside and also the glass [TS]

00:08:23   front and back of the iPhone 4 it [TS]

00:08:25   reminds me of that - look at you Mike [TS]

00:08:27   you like a real iPhone historian um you [TS]

00:08:30   know I guess I have the chops but this [TS]

00:08:32   one this one is just it's it really is [TS]

00:08:36   wonderful [TS]

00:08:37   it's the most luxurious feeling iPhone [TS]

00:08:41   that I've ever used as well like [TS]

00:08:43   everything about it feels extremely [TS]

00:08:45   premium like I kind of get I kind of get [TS]

00:08:48   what you mean but I like it my main [TS]

00:08:51   interest in this phone is simply that it [TS]

00:08:52   is a [TS]

00:08:53   in size so I feel like thumbs up to the [TS]

00:08:55   different size that's great and I just I [TS]

00:09:00   feel a bit like the there's many many [TS]

00:09:02   things that are different about this [TS]

00:09:03   phone but I'm mostly just like yeah [TS]

00:09:05   that's fine you know it's it seems [TS]

00:09:08   really good I'm happy with it you know [TS]

00:09:10   thumbs up but uh it feels it feels like [TS]

00:09:14   it's another phone and I'm just happy [TS]

00:09:16   that it's a different size but I don't [TS]

00:09:18   feel like I wouldn't say that I'm in the [TS]

00:09:20   same camp as you is feeling like Who I [TS]

00:09:21   have a like a gorgeous luxury object I [TS]

00:09:24   feel like I have a new phone and the [TS]

00:09:26   screen is bigger and that's great and [TS]

00:09:27   it's a different size which I'm thrilled [TS]

00:09:30   about like I'm very happy to pay for the [TS]

00:09:33   phone to get the different size that's [TS]

00:09:36   that is my my main interest here what [TS]

00:09:38   about the notch how do you feel about [TS]

00:09:39   the knotch I like I swear it's almost [TS]

00:09:44   like the notches in some kind of visual [TS]

00:09:46   blind spot for me like I am almost [TS]

00:09:49   weirded out by how little I noticed the [TS]

00:09:53   knotch yes it's it's somehow in my [TS]

00:09:55   vision I just don't see it like do you [TS]

00:09:58   feel the same way I forget it's there [TS]

00:10:00   and then every now and then I open an [TS]

00:10:02   application that's like all white and I [TS]

00:10:05   see it again yeah [TS]

00:10:06   and I think it's a combination of like [TS]

00:10:07   we've never looked that far apart phones [TS]

00:10:10   before alright so and I think the other [TS]

00:10:20   part of it is that like a lot of [TS]

00:10:22   applications [TS]

00:10:23   I mean basic you know all of the [TS]

00:10:25   Optimates applications it blends in [TS]

00:10:27   right they do a really good job I think [TS]

00:10:28   of making kind of the top of the screens [TS]

00:10:30   blend in really well so it's only I [TS]

00:10:32   think when there's like a really stark [TS]

00:10:34   contrast that I notice it yeah I'll use [TS]

00:10:37   if we put in the show notes I think [TS]

00:10:39   probably the best version of this is [TS]

00:10:41   like carrot weather because they almost [TS]

00:10:43   always have like these solid color [TS]

00:10:45   backgrounds like that they're they're [TS]

00:10:47   just going up around the edges of the [TS]

00:10:49   notch and I always I think it looks [TS]

00:10:51   gorgeous but I am aware that I eat like [TS]

00:10:53   I have to intentionally look at the [TS]

00:10:55   knotch to be aware that it's that it's [TS]

00:10:57   there but that's great though right [TS]

00:10:59   that's what you that's the best design [TS]

00:11:01   and it's best I guess so I think you [TS]

00:11:02   don't notice what is essentially a fool [TS]

00:11:04   in the screen right like having a notch [TS]

00:11:06   of it taken out [TS]

00:11:07   and it makes sense in retrospect why [TS]

00:11:09   Apple was pushing really heavily in [TS]

00:11:10   their design documents for like the [TS]

00:11:12   embrace the knotch [TS]

00:11:13   idea with design were they're like no [TS]

00:11:15   guys guys trust us that you have to just [TS]

00:11:17   roll with this and and use the color in [TS]

00:11:20   the top of the screen because the place [TS]

00:11:22   I it's so strange but the place I [TS]

00:11:24   noticed the knotch the most is actually [TS]

00:11:26   on applications that hide it so yes for [TS]

00:11:32   for example one that I think is always [TS]

00:11:35   going to work this way which I'll just [TS]

00:11:37   use so I can use it as an example is the [TS]

00:11:39   YouTube app so if you start playing a [TS]

00:11:42   video in the YouTube app and you're [TS]

00:11:44   holding the phone in portrait mode the [TS]

00:11:46   video has always played at the very top [TS]

00:11:48   of the screen now of course because the [TS]

00:11:51   notch is there they can't actually put [TS]

00:11:52   the video at the very top of the screen [TS]

00:11:53   they put it just below the notch but [TS]

00:11:56   then there's nothing to flow up to the [TS]

00:11:58   top of the screen so the YouTube app [TS]

00:12:00   just blacks out the top bar and then and [TS]

00:12:02   then it's like okay in theory you're [TS]

00:12:05   hiding the notch like I can't actually [TS]

00:12:06   see where the knotch begins and ends [TS]

00:12:08   versus where the screen begins an end [TS]

00:12:10   that's where the screen is actually [TS]

00:12:11   black but then it's it's suddenly like [TS]

00:12:12   really noticeable and and this is 100% [TS]

00:12:17   reverse the reaction I would have [TS]

00:12:19   expected to have I was thinking out I [TS]

00:12:21   hope those developers don't embrace the [TS]

00:12:24   notch and they stick with blacking out [TS]

00:12:26   the top bars because surely that will [TS]

00:12:28   look better but it doesn't I don't know [TS]

00:12:30   how that's possible but it doesn't look [TS]

00:12:32   better that way that is when I suddenly [TS]

00:12:34   become aware of the notch at the top of [TS]

00:12:35   the screen as pretty is when people are [TS]

00:12:37   trying to hide it I think what's [TS]

00:12:38   happened is because so many apps updated [TS]

00:12:40   and kind of embraced it and designed [TS]

00:12:42   around it and flow color and backgrounds [TS]

00:12:45   up to the top when you see an [TS]

00:12:46   application that doesn't have it a lot [TS]

00:12:49   of the time it's because it hasn't been [TS]

00:12:50   updated right so there's apps that are [TS]

00:12:52   kind of in like a letterbox window mode [TS]

00:12:54   if they've not updated so I think when [TS]

00:12:56   you see an app that has updated for the [TS]

00:12:59   10 but then decides to black it out it [TS]

00:13:01   looks like it's old yeah maybe a little [TS]

00:13:04   bit like that I do have to say this is [TS]

00:13:06   the best version of the phone where non [TS]

00:13:08   updated app still look okay yeah I [TS]

00:13:11   always wonder like how much does Apple [TS]

00:13:12   go out of their way to make non updated [TS]

00:13:14   apps for whatever their new devices look [TS]

00:13:16   great and it feels like not much because [TS]

00:13:18   they don't have any incentive for that [TS]

00:13:20   but this is this is the only phone where [TS]

00:13:22   I can use non updated apps and it's it's [TS]

00:13:25   no problem at all like they just sort of [TS]

00:13:26   float in the middle of the screen and I [TS]

00:13:27   think it's it's perfectly fine yeah I [TS]

00:13:29   think the OLED screen helps a lot with [TS]

00:13:30   that because the blacks are so black [TS]

00:13:32   that it looks like just part of the [TS]

00:13:34   phone yeah the old yeah the OLED screen [TS]

00:13:36   definitely helps but I'll tell you what [TS]

00:13:37   Mike my favorite thing about the knotch [TS]

00:13:39   they feature as far as I'm concerned is [TS]

00:13:43   the notch has forced Apple to get rid of [TS]

00:13:47   the dumb cell phone carrier names in a [TS]

00:13:50   little status bar at the top I have for [TS]

00:13:54   four years there is a network carrier in [TS]

00:13:59   the UK called three and so their little [TS]

00:14:02   symbol is just a number three in the [TS]

00:14:05   status bar and I have not wanted to [TS]

00:14:07   switch away from them for years almost [TS]

00:14:10   entirely because of the fact that they [TS]

00:14:12   have the smallest network indicator in [TS]

00:14:16   the status bar at the top of the screen [TS]

00:14:18   and earlier this year they rolled out [TS]

00:14:21   some feature which was like three Wi-Fi [TS]

00:14:23   oh yeah yeah you know and so when I was [TS]

00:14:28   at home one day all of a sudden the [TS]

00:14:30   status bar at the top of my screen says [TS]

00:14:31   three Wi-Fi calling across the top on my [TS]

00:14:34   previous phone was like what the hell is [TS]

00:14:36   this and I was I was gonna literally [TS]

00:14:38   switch phone networks over that before I [TS]

00:14:40   discovered that you can just turn off [TS]

00:14:42   the function of three Wi-Fi calling what [TS]

00:14:44   on the phone so I was like I never used [TS]

00:14:47   this phone as a phone anyway boop [TS]

00:14:48   feature off like give me back my old [TS]

00:14:50   tiny indicator so I really hated a bunch [TS]

00:14:54   of junky stuff up in in the status bar [TS]

00:14:56   and so the notch forces them to get rid [TS]

00:14:58   of that it only shows up on the [TS]

00:15:00   lockscreen I love that and then plus [TS]

00:15:04   there was one other one other little [TS]

00:15:05   moment of delight for me and one where I [TS]

00:15:07   thought oh I'm so happy right now which [TS]

00:15:09   is I have always run my iPhone without [TS]

00:15:13   showing the battery percentage it's like [TS]

00:15:16   anything I can do to minimize [TS]

00:15:18   information on my phone I will always [TS]

00:15:20   take that option but there was a thing [TS]

00:15:22   that always felt like Apple sticking [TS]

00:15:24   their thumb in my eye [TS]

00:15:26   which was if you enabled low-power mode [TS]

00:15:29   on the phone it would force the battery [TS]

00:15:32   percentage back in the display [TS]

00:15:34   it just always drove me crazy like why [TS]

00:15:36   like who is who is the engineer who [TS]

00:15:39   programmed this behavior which is like [TS]

00:15:41   oh you don't like the battery percentage [TS]

00:15:42   well a low-power mode we're gonna force [TS]

00:15:45   you to see it but now there's no space [TS]

00:15:47   there they can't do it [TS]

00:15:48   so I finally have low-power mode without [TS]

00:15:50   the battery percentage and I kept like I [TS]

00:15:53   cannot tell you how disproportionately [TS]

00:15:56   happy that makes me so this is total win [TS]

00:16:00   total unexpected favorite feature of the [TS]

00:16:03   knotch is it pushes out all of this [TS]

00:16:05   junky superfluous information in the [TS]

00:16:08   status bar I totally love it long live [TS]

00:16:11   the knotch [TS]

00:16:11   I have Wi-Fi calling with EE right and [TS]

00:16:16   on the new phone e Wi-Fi call doesn't [TS]

00:16:20   fit in the knotch [TS]

00:16:21   mmm-hmm can you guess what they do that [TS]

00:16:25   we nope it's like a little carousel see [TS]

00:16:29   it's scroll scrolls do you remember on [TS]

00:16:32   the iPods that you could get like a [TS]

00:16:33   title of the song and it just starts [TS]

00:16:34   moving yeah that's what this does ee [TS]

00:16:37   Wi-Fi calling is just scrolling across [TS]

00:16:40   the top of my screen like some kind of [TS]

00:16:43   big italy circus that's fantastic just [TS]

00:16:49   on the lock screen yeah just on the lock [TS]

00:16:50   screen I hate it but I need Wi-Fi [TS]

00:16:54   calling cuz I get such bad reception in [TS]

00:16:55   my house yeah but like I never see it [TS]

00:16:58   for that long but it's like I'm so [TS]

00:17:01   pleased they got rid of it on the [TS]

00:17:02   lockscreen but like on the home screen [TS]

00:17:04   cuz that would drive me mad I couldn't [TS]

00:17:05   have something just spinning constantly [TS]

00:17:07   yeah that's terrible yeah terrible [TS]

00:17:11   design it's like guys make up a symbol [TS]

00:17:14   and the symbol means Wi-Fi calling and [TS]

00:17:16   just leave it at that right all these [TS]

00:17:19   words that you have to read in your mind [TS]

00:17:21   that is that is terrible I'm sorry that [TS]

00:17:24   you can't disable the feature because [TS]

00:17:25   you don't have cell phone connection now [TS]

00:17:26   where you are yeah the outer rim yeah [TS]

00:17:29   well you're in you're in like the inner [TS]

00:17:30   outer rim now that's good you've moved [TS]

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00:19:17   so I've got a question for you right but [TS]

00:19:20   moving the whole button has brought [TS]

00:19:21   about a bunch of gestures right like [TS]

00:19:23   swiping up gestures and and that's kind [TS]

00:19:25   of stuff like you swipe up to go home [TS]

00:19:26   swipe up from what is a skein how are [TS]

00:19:30   your hands dealing with that okay I feel [TS]

00:19:32   like there's two questions here but the [TS]

00:19:34   question I think you're asking that I [TS]

00:19:36   think that I mean I'm hearing in your [TS]

00:19:37   voice is related to a thing that we've [TS]

00:19:41   discussed many times on the show which [TS]

00:19:43   is RSI uh-huh like like I hear I hear [TS]

00:19:46   the sound of pain in your voice yeah so [TS]

00:19:49   I have had no problems with any kind of [TS]

00:19:55   RSI [TS]

00:19:57   whereas when that were what was it on [TS]

00:20:00   the six when the 3d touch came in or [TS]

00:20:03   maybe was the five I don't remember when [TS]

00:20:04   when that came in but that that is a [TS]

00:20:07   feature that I use extremely rarely [TS]

00:20:10   because it will give me pain in my hands [TS]

00:20:14   so I'm very very light 3d touch user but [TS]

00:20:18   with this phone and with the bunch of [TS]

00:20:20   gestures I I feel like I've had nothing [TS]

00:20:22   I'm noticing no pain in my hands but it [TS]

00:20:26   sounds like you have pain in your hands [TS]

00:20:27   I have pain in both of my hands as bad [TS]

00:20:31   as the MX mouse gave me whoa [TS]

00:20:34   wait both of you like are you are you [TS]

00:20:36   hot potato in the phone between your [TS]

00:20:38   hands to try to minimize RSI I don't [TS]

00:20:40   what's going on I I don't use my phone [TS]

00:20:42   with just one hand it's I'm it was [TS]

00:20:45   ambidextrous with my phone like I don't [TS]

00:20:47   know however I'm coupling this with I've [TS]

00:20:51   also been playing a lot more on Nintendo [TS]

00:20:54   switch than usual in the last few days [TS]

00:20:55   like there is actually this seems to [TS]

00:20:57   have been like a combo between getting [TS]

00:20:59   the iPhone and Nintendo like coming at [TS]

00:21:02   the same time I've been playing a lot of [TS]

00:21:04   and I've been spending time of a lot of [TS]

00:21:05   both right so I've been adapting to a [TS]

00:21:08   new phone whilst also playing [TS]

00:21:10   significantly more video games than [TS]

00:21:12   usual [TS]

00:21:13   and I think and hope that the [TS]

00:21:15   combination of both of these things is [TS]

00:21:17   causing me to have pretty bad RSI right [TS]

00:21:20   now I remember when I switched to the [TS]

00:21:23   plus I had some problems too and I think [TS]

00:21:26   it was just like an adaption phase and [TS]

00:21:28   also a case of like I'm using my phone [TS]

00:21:31   way more than I usually do like there [TS]

00:21:34   will be times where I would never pick [TS]

00:21:36   up my phone in a day time right like [TS]

00:21:38   I've issues in my iPads but since I've [TS]

00:21:40   got this phone I've been playing of it [TS]

00:21:42   constantly because it's a new toy and I [TS]

00:21:44   like to play with new toys right so I'm [TS]

00:21:47   hoping it's just a combination of those [TS]

00:21:48   otherwise I'm in trouble [TS]

00:21:50   yeah that's pretty serious I mean I'm [TS]

00:21:53   hoping that you're right it is just in [TS]

00:21:55   an adaption period plus a playing period [TS]

00:21:57   and it's also it's compounded with a lot [TS]

00:21:59   of Nintendo and and playing and Nintendo [TS]

00:22:01   in handheld mode I don't think it's the [TS]

00:22:04   best thing for your hands because the [TS]

00:22:05   controls aren't incredibly laid out and [TS]

00:22:07   it's heavy [TS]

00:22:07   mmm so I think it might be a combo [TS]

00:22:10   all of these things together yeah well [TS]

00:22:12   we can we can get to some switch talk [TS]

00:22:14   later good yeah that can be a thing we [TS]

00:22:17   don't we can have many devices on this [TS]

00:22:19   episode but yeah I know what you mean [TS]

00:22:24   they're just about playing with the [TS]

00:22:25   phone a million times more because even [TS]

00:22:28   like I said I'm mostly interested in the [TS]

00:22:30   new size but whenever you do have a new [TS]

00:22:32   device it's like oh well I'm gonna I'm [TS]

00:22:34   gonna set aside an afternoon to just [TS]

00:22:36   kind of mess around with the phone and [TS]

00:22:37   and see what's different and see how [TS]

00:22:38   things change and see how I'm gonna set [TS]

00:22:40   up different stuff so see yeah it's like [TS]

00:22:41   my iPhone use over the past week is also [TS]

00:22:45   not a normal graph of what iPhone use [TS]

00:22:49   looks like because I keep messing around [TS]

00:22:51   with it and adjusting and seeing [TS]

00:22:52   different things and trying our face ID [TS]

00:22:54   and learning new gestures and stuff so I [TS]

00:22:58   can't say that I've been having any [TS]

00:23:00   problem with RSI I will say that there [TS]

00:23:09   is it there's a thing that I'm kind of [TS]

00:23:13   concerned about in the iOS world which [TS]

00:23:16   is just the the gestures and their [TS]

00:23:20   differences between devices which is [TS]

00:23:24   kind of driving me crazy the [TS]

00:23:27   interactions now between an iPad and an [TS]

00:23:29   iPhone in terms of what the very same [TS]

00:23:32   gestures do being different is driving [TS]

00:23:34   me a little nuts like what happens when [TS]

00:23:36   you swipe up from the bottom on an iPad [TS]

00:23:39   or versus an iPhone they're totally [TS]

00:23:41   different things or you know how do you [TS]

00:23:43   get to multitasking is like well these [TS]

00:23:45   are different gestures on the different [TS]

00:23:47   devices [TS]

00:23:48   where's control center how do you get to [TS]

00:23:49   control center these are different [TS]

00:23:51   gestures on different devices and that [TS]

00:23:54   kind of inconsistency I find really [TS]

00:23:56   frustrating because it's like I can't I [TS]

00:23:59   find myself not being able to [TS]

00:24:01   effortlessly move from one device to the [TS]

00:24:05   other and I like when I'm on my iPad I [TS]

00:24:07   find myself doing the wrong gestures and [TS]

00:24:10   then I go back to the phone and it takes [TS]

00:24:11   me a second to realize like oh right I [TS]

00:24:12   have to do this gesture this way so I'm [TS]

00:24:15   hoping this is just a temporary phase in [TS]

00:24:17   the product life cycle but I am a little [TS]

00:24:19   bit concerned by the weirdness of the [TS]

00:24:22   different interactions of [TS]

00:24:24   across the the different devices I'm [TS]

00:24:26   hoping that there can be something a [TS]

00:24:28   little bit more unified in an approach [TS]

00:24:30   in the future particularly with the [TS]

00:24:33   multitasking I'm really not a fan of the [TS]

00:24:35   multitasking on the phone I think that a [TS]

00:24:37   lot of that stuff's gonna get revised [TS]

00:24:39   honestly like I can see that like [TS]

00:24:41   they've used a swipe up gesture in both [TS]

00:24:44   areas right so there's like there is an [TS]

00:24:46   attempt in my opinion at some kind of [TS]

00:24:48   unification and I think that as we go [TS]

00:24:51   forward those things are gonna become [TS]

00:24:53   more similar than than they currently [TS]

00:24:56   are that that's the way I look at it [TS]

00:24:58   yeah I hope so I find the apps which are [TS]

00:25:02   on the phone is just like an awkward [TS]

00:25:04   gesture I think like many people I'm [TS]

00:25:06   trying to figure out what's the way that [TS]

00:25:08   works the best for me and the way the [TS]

00:25:11   way Apple pitches it has swipe up and [TS]

00:25:14   pause I think for any gesture that [TS]

00:25:17   you're going to invoke many many times a [TS]

00:25:19   pause is yeah totally unacceptable to [TS]

00:25:23   tasking gesture is is wonky at best just [TS]

00:25:27   in the case like I've spoken about on a [TS]

00:25:28   few shows and I and everyone's telling [TS]

00:25:31   me the right way to do it and [TS]

00:25:32   everybody's right way is different like [TS]

00:25:34   everybody has their own way of invoking [TS]

00:25:36   this gesture and everybody sees better [TS]

00:25:39   yes I am doing a quarter-circle that [TS]

00:25:41   starts from the bottom yeah bones I go [TS]

00:25:45   I'm flying in from next door and then [TS]

00:25:47   like you know it's like a whole big [TS]

00:25:49   thing so I just yeah is not what it [TS]

00:25:54   should be but I also don't know what the [TS]

00:25:57   right one I mean ideally I would like to [TS]

00:25:59   see something that was more like the [TS]

00:26:01   iPad but I think I think they may go [TS]

00:26:03   that way right that you just you swipe [TS]

00:26:05   up a little bit to go home you swipe up [TS]

00:26:07   further to go into multitasking well I [TS]

00:26:11   think that they want to make it a bit [TS]

00:26:16   easier for people to adjust and I think [TS]

00:26:18   if you're adjusting from the iPhone this [TS]

00:26:20   is an easier way to adjust because [TS]

00:26:21   swiping up is or is a weird interaction [TS]

00:26:24   when you've been so used to the home [TS]

00:26:25   button yeah yeah I think I agree that [TS]

00:26:29   that's probably what they're going for [TS]

00:26:31   I'm also betting that in testing with [TS]

00:26:33   new users it's the most discoverable [TS]

00:26:35   because people will leave their finger [TS]

00:26:37   on the screen maybe [TS]

00:26:38   for a second too young and then [TS]

00:26:39   multitasking pops up and people go oh [TS]

00:26:40   that's where it is right I'm I have this [TS]

00:26:43   feels very much like it's designed [TS]

00:26:45   towards new users but my personal my [TS]

00:26:48   personal vote on multitasking is I do [TS]

00:26:51   like the gesture where you swipe across [TS]

00:26:53   the bottom of the phone and it has the [TS]

00:26:55   most recent couple of apps like the [TS]

00:26:57   swiping left and right on the home [TS]

00:26:59   indicator and it just takes you back and [TS]

00:27:00   forward through the apps you've used [TS]

00:27:01   right yes yeah I I would love to use [TS]

00:27:04   that just as the app switcher like do [TS]

00:27:08   this quickly enough and it just pulls up [TS]

00:27:10   a whole bunch that you can slide back [TS]

00:27:12   and forth between but that is totally [TS]

00:27:15   not discoverable for a new user and of [TS]

00:27:18   course you know control center is a bit [TS]

00:27:21   of a disaster on the new phone I don't [TS]

00:27:23   think anybody's a big fan of where [TS]

00:27:24   control sitting right now it's like to [TS]

00:27:27   get Control Center you have to swipe [TS]

00:27:28   down from the upper right corner it's [TS]

00:27:30   like the exact opposite of where it used [TS]

00:27:32   to be and it's not at all intuitive like [TS]

00:27:35   it's and like even the animation is a [TS]

00:27:37   disaster like that's not a good part of [TS]

00:27:39   it at all well there's also a minor [TS]

00:27:41   point to me about control center as well [TS]

00:27:43   which is when you pull it down the [TS]

00:27:47   control center buttons and stuff they're [TS]

00:27:49   floating in the top half of the screen [TS]

00:27:50   anyway all right so it's like it's [TS]

00:27:53   almost making sure that you have to use [TS]

00:27:55   two hands for this gesture because it's [TS]

00:27:57   like if if in theory you were able to [TS]

00:27:59   stretch your thumb to reach that top bit [TS]

00:28:01   it's like the buttons are still on the [TS]

00:28:03   wrong side of the screen for where [TS]

00:28:04   they're supposed to be and for me as a [TS]

00:28:07   left-handed iPhone user it's it's [TS]

00:28:09   especially like oh oh well bye-bye [TS]

00:28:11   control center it was it was nice [TS]

00:28:13   knowing you [TS]

00:28:14   and I find it frustrating simply because [TS]

00:28:17   I feel like all these gestures are are [TS]

00:28:19   there for the notification screen which [TS]

00:28:21   I have no use for in the world of Apple [TS]

00:28:24   like I'm not interested in your [TS]

00:28:25   notification screen please just let me [TS]

00:28:27   get control center from anywhere instead [TS]

00:28:29   of this like oh we have with one tiny [TS]

00:28:31   little space on the top of the screen [TS]

00:28:33   where you can access control center a [TS]

00:28:35   thing you use many times a day and we [TS]

00:28:37   have the rest of the 75% of the space is [TS]

00:28:40   there for a thing that you never use so [TS]

00:28:42   yeah I'm hoping for a bunch of changes [TS]

00:28:45   but I mean that that said I do have to [TS]

00:28:49   say like getting rid of the home button [TS]

00:28:52   it's totally the right choice and even [TS]

00:28:54   though we've just been complaining about [TS]

00:28:55   the gestures a a home button list phone [TS]

00:28:58   I like it ten thousand times better than [TS]

00:29:03   the fake home button on the on the seven [TS]

00:29:07   right where it's like it wasn't a real [TS]

00:29:09   button it was just like they just had [TS]

00:29:10   fat haptic feedback I never liked that [TS]

00:29:12   button I never got used to it and I [TS]

00:29:15   always preferred the physical button but [TS]

00:29:17   now it's like I wouldn't I wouldn't take [TS]

00:29:19   I wouldn't take a physical button on [TS]

00:29:20   this phone if Apple offered it to me I [TS]

00:29:22   would I would just pass by it on the [TS]

00:29:24   ground and not touch it at all because [TS]

00:29:26   the the no home button phone is way [TS]

00:29:29   better and just feels really natural so [TS]

00:29:32   I like a big big thumbs up for that even [TS]

00:29:34   if the gestures are a bit wonky and [TS]

00:29:35   could use some some sorting out but like [TS]

00:29:37   that's all workable later right like [TS]

00:29:40   these things make sense once more people [TS]

00:29:43   are using them and it's just software [TS]

00:29:45   right so they can make a move iOS around [TS]

00:29:47   whoever they want going forward but the [TS]

00:29:50   hardware design and it moves that [TS]

00:29:52   they're making in hardware including [TS]

00:29:54   face ID in my opinion or all excellent [TS]

00:29:57   and in the right direction but it's such [TS]

00:30:00   a big change that they need to do some [TS]

00:30:03   work on the software yeah yeah I [TS]

00:30:06   completely agree I am I am liking face [TS]

00:30:11   ID it's it's very interesting as well to [TS]

00:30:14   have it in the hands and test it out how [TS]

00:30:18   how does it work for a man with if I may [TS]

00:30:22   say quite a magnificent beard thank [TS]

00:30:25   thank you that's very kind of you I [TS]

00:30:27   expect it works good for me as it does [TS]

00:30:29   for you I find an emoji sometimes gets a [TS]

00:30:33   little bit confused at my mouth [TS]

00:30:34   movements but I wouldn't say that I'm [TS]

00:30:37   struggling with face ID so like there [TS]

00:30:39   are times when it definitely doesn't [TS]

00:30:41   work right and but to be honest like I [TS]

00:30:45   don't feel like I'm having more problems [TS]

00:30:46   than I had to touch ID like touch ID [TS]

00:30:48   wasn't a 100% of the time type thing you [TS]

00:30:51   like if you didn't hit it just right [TS]

00:30:53   then it didn't work the only times were [TS]

00:30:56   obviously I'm struggling with it is like [TS]

00:30:58   let's say I have my hand covering my [TS]

00:31:00   face or something I'm like oh this [TS]

00:31:03   doesn't work right the guy if I have my [TS]

00:31:05   hand [TS]

00:31:05   kind of on my chin and like covering up [TS]

00:31:08   for most of my mouth for my cheek or [TS]

00:31:09   whatever like I'm just sitting there but [TS]

00:31:11   there's work right so there's just [TS]

00:31:13   little things that I'm adjusting and [TS]

00:31:14   tweaking but it works perfectly fine for [TS]

00:31:18   me right like I don't and and also it [TS]

00:31:21   feels more nice ID makes you really [TS]

00:31:22   aware of your face in a way oh yeah [TS]

00:31:24   before it's very strange though it's [TS]

00:31:27   like oh okay so I have my head in my [TS]

00:31:29   hands a lot more than I thought I did [TS]

00:31:30   that's good to know about me I wonder [TS]

00:31:32   what that says yeah like I just I've [TS]

00:31:33   never really thought about what my [TS]

00:31:36   iPhone sees from its perspective [TS]

00:31:38   yes throughout the day is a really [TS]

00:31:40   grumpy person yeah just like it just [TS]

00:31:45   never occurred to me but now it's a [TS]

00:31:46   thing I have to think about constantly [TS]

00:31:48   it's like oh sitting in your little dock [TS]

00:31:49   you can't really see me phone it's it's [TS]

00:31:52   you're way too low I don't know what [TS]

00:31:53   you're looking at but if not me yeah [TS]

00:31:55   it's in it it is interesting to think of [TS]

00:31:58   in that way but I I will say that I have [TS]

00:32:00   found the face ID to work about as good [TS]

00:32:04   as I expected it to work and I'm happy [TS]

00:32:07   with that [TS]

00:32:07   how does it detect a stick figure like [TS]

00:32:10   have you been doing okay well I mean [TS]

00:32:14   haha but I have to say I have been [TS]

00:32:17   having a lot of problems with face ID [TS]

00:32:19   even under optimal situations I would [TS]

00:32:24   say that it at least I've been finding [TS]

00:32:25   it less reliable than touch ID in terms [TS]

00:32:29   of how often does it say no no you have [TS]

00:32:32   to enter in your passcode it's quite a [TS]

00:32:34   bunch for me like obviously it works [TS]

00:32:35   more often than not right just like [TS]

00:32:37   touch ID but I'm getting a lot of [TS]

00:32:39   failures in what I what I think should [TS]

00:32:41   be optimal situations right I'm not [TS]

00:32:45   grumpy with my head in my hands you know [TS]

00:32:47   I'm just like right in front of the [TS]

00:32:49   phone and it still fails on me it was so [TS]

00:32:52   much in the beginning that I ended up [TS]

00:32:54   retraining it which I think made it a [TS]

00:32:55   little bit better but this is this is [TS]

00:32:57   also like we're in the time where [TS]

00:32:58   there's machine learning like in [TS]

00:33:00   everything and I know that yes they do [TS]

00:33:02   update the model of the face over time [TS]

00:33:04   in theory every time you are entering [TS]

00:33:06   your passcode it should be getting [TS]

00:33:08   better yeah it should be getting better [TS]

00:33:11   but I would say I'm getting a lot of [TS]

00:33:13   failures on on face ID [TS]

00:33:16   more than I was getting with touch ID [TS]

00:33:18   which at least for me was just [TS]

00:33:19   rock solid like it was it was notable [TS]

00:33:22   when I had a touch ID failure and it was [TS]

00:33:24   always my fault like I'm just getting [TS]

00:33:26   out of the shower [TS]

00:33:26   lissa could be all full but in different [TS]

00:33:28   ways right-clicking ways that you'll not [TS]

00:33:30   anticipate yeah there's no they're not [TS]

00:33:32   enough features on my face face ID to [TS]

00:33:34   register just have a more feature full [TS]

00:33:37   face what's wrong with you could you [TS]

00:33:38   make your face more face like that's it [TS]

00:33:41   but but but even that like again so it's [TS]

00:33:45   sort of like we're just complaining [TS]

00:33:45   about the gestures but I like the [TS]

00:33:47   buttonless phone better even if for me [TS]

00:33:50   face IDs machine learning never improved [TS]

00:33:53   I already love face ID way more than [TS]

00:33:57   touch ID yeah because yeah when it works [TS]

00:33:59   it's magic [TS]

00:34:02   it makes the interaction with the phone [TS]

00:34:04   so much faster that I think even the [TS]

00:34:08   times I have to enter in my passcode I'm [TS]

00:34:10   still winning in terms of time even more [TS]

00:34:14   I love that other apps can use face ID [TS]

00:34:16   as well like my banking app updated to [TS]

00:34:18   use face ID for the login process it's [TS]

00:34:20   like it's great I really like that [TS]

00:34:24   there's also a little thing which I've [TS]

00:34:27   changed on my phone which I'm which I'm [TS]

00:34:29   very happy about but I realized like oh [TS]

00:34:31   now that I have face ID I can change a [TS]

00:34:33   bunch of settings I know what this is [TS]

00:34:34   what do you think this is Mike the [TS]

00:34:35   notifications stuff okay yeah not just [TS]

00:34:38   the notification stuff I was looking [TS]

00:34:40   through the security settings and [TS]

00:34:42   there's all of these questions about [TS]

00:34:43   what do you want to be able to have [TS]

00:34:46   access to on the phone when the phone is [TS]

00:34:49   in a locked state and previously I had [TS]

00:34:53   all of that stuff accessible except for [TS]

00:34:57   showing notification previews I always [TS]

00:34:59   turned that off because I never liked [TS]

00:35:01   that just as a privacy I always had that [TS]

00:35:04   disabled until the phone was unlocks it [TS]

00:35:06   would show like oh there's a message [TS]

00:35:07   from my wife but it wouldn't say what it [TS]

00:35:09   is on the screen until I entered in the [TS]

00:35:11   passcode [TS]

00:35:11   but now I've disabled everything right [TS]

00:35:15   everything is disabled on there because [TS]

00:35:17   what's the scenario where I want to [TS]

00:35:20   access something on my phone but I'm not [TS]

00:35:22   going to be looking at the phone right [TS]

00:35:24   that's never well like give me an [TS]

00:35:26   example like what sort of stuff of you [TS]

00:35:27   disabled okay so you can disable swiping [TS]

00:35:31   over to all of the widgets [TS]

00:35:33   all right so so like right now if my [TS]

00:35:36   phone is in the locked state no one can [TS]

00:35:39   even look at the widgets that are on my [TS]

00:35:41   phone which is great because I have some [TS]

00:35:44   of my time tracking stuff on the widgets [TS]

00:35:46   and I also have to do and OmniFocus [TS]

00:35:50   enable you to put a little widget on [TS]

00:35:52   that home screen and that was always the [TS]

00:35:55   number one thing I was aware of if [TS]

00:35:57   somebody was ever looking at my phone [TS]

00:36:00   was it's like well there are it's not [TS]

00:36:02   like it's a huge privacy deal but I just [TS]

00:36:04   rather not have it there where someone [TS]

00:36:07   sees like all my weird reminders to [TS]

00:36:08   myself so now I've disabled all of that [TS]

00:36:11   stuff so you can't you can't access the [TS]

00:36:14   widgets on my phone unless my phone is [TS]

00:36:17   in the unlocked state it's also access [TS]

00:36:20   to Notification Center even though I [TS]

00:36:22   don't use it I also disabled access to [TS]

00:36:24   control center so someone can't take the [TS]

00:36:28   phone and put it in airplane mode [TS]

00:36:30   without it being unlocked so my phone is [TS]

00:36:33   just like a glass slab when I hand it to [TS]

00:36:36   someone that does nothing until it is [TS]

00:36:38   unlocked and I love this I really really [TS]

00:36:40   love it because that's that's how it [TS]

00:36:42   feels like the phone should be like hey [TS]

00:36:45   phone you're my phone you work for me [TS]

00:36:48   and if you're in somebody else's hands [TS]

00:36:50   you do nothing okay you can show them [TS]

00:36:52   the time but beyond showing them the [TS]

00:36:54   time you do nothing and that's great I [TS]

00:36:57   absolutely love that so big big plus for [TS]

00:37:00   me for face ID security wise and I would [TS]

00:37:04   recommend to listeners if you have the X [TS]

00:37:06   go in and disable all of that stuff I [TS]

00:37:08   had no idea you even could yeah it's [TS]

00:37:11   great it's fantastic I absolutely love [TS]

00:37:13   it [TS]

00:37:13   yeah like I don't want especially like [TS]

00:37:15   sone telling off Siri I don't want [TS]

00:37:17   somebody to have access to Siri yes Siri [TS]

00:37:19   is a great example like I've always [TS]

00:37:21   turned off hey Siri on the phone anyway [TS]

00:37:23   but it's the same thing it's like if the [TS]

00:37:25   phone is locked since I can access Siri [TS]

00:37:27   on my Apple watch if I ever really need [TS]

00:37:29   her for something like I don't need the [TS]

00:37:31   phone here I don't need some random [TS]

00:37:33   person being able to trigger Siri on my [TS]

00:37:35   phone when it's locked [TS]

00:37:36   all of that stuff is off yeah that's [TS]

00:37:38   that's a really good one even the least [TS]

00:37:40   serious is that well now you can like [TS]

00:37:41   access a bunch of stuff I suppose I mean [TS]

00:37:43   I don't know maybe there's some [TS]

00:37:44   restriction series still has [TS]

00:37:46   but considering I don't even really use [TS]

00:37:49   it that much why does why does it need [TS]

00:37:50   to be available to anybody yeah so [TS]

00:37:53   everything is off or or like access to [TS]

00:37:55   home control all of those things all [TS]

00:37:57   disabled that's great fantastic today's [TS]

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00:39:09   final thing that I love that I love Mike [TS]

00:39:12   is the wireless charging okay oh my god [TS]

00:39:16   okay so even though I'm one of those [TS]

00:39:18   curmudgeons who still doesn't quite like [TS]

00:39:19   the name Wireless charge now why are [TS]

00:39:21   somewhere like there is no such thing as [TS]

00:39:24   well as charging in this definition gray [TS]

00:39:25   there's always wires I just like ID when [TS]

00:39:29   I really want wireless charging to be [TS]

00:39:31   the kind of charging where it's charged [TS]

00:39:32   at the phone while it's in my pocket [TS]

00:39:33   yeah but like where is the power coming [TS]

00:39:36   from some way there's gonna be a wire [TS]

00:39:38   like but I don't want a wire like it's [TS]

00:39:39   like but I'm just I'm bringing this up [TS]

00:39:42   because just to say like I'm a pedantic [TS]

00:39:43   nerd on this one point you really are [TS]

00:39:46   but nonetheless I'm gonna totally [TS]

00:39:47   concede and just call it Wireless [TS]

00:39:49   because it's like you know what I'm [TS]

00:39:50   gonna give this to you technology [TS]

00:39:51   because I love you so much I'm just [TS]

00:39:53   gonna call you Wireless and let it go [TS]

00:39:55   and and this to me this to me is now [TS]

00:39:59   like [TS]

00:40:00   is maybe one going to be one of my go-to [TS]

00:40:03   examples for the kind of thing where I [TS]

00:40:07   just think people under appreciate the [TS]

00:40:11   benefits of making things just a little [TS]

00:40:13   easier because it's like is it hard to [TS]

00:40:16   plug a wire into your phone no of course [TS]

00:40:20   it's not right it's it's a trivially [TS]

00:40:21   easy thing to do it's even easier if you [TS]

00:40:24   have a doc right you can just like boom [TS]

00:40:25   slam the phone right down and it starts [TS]

00:40:27   to charge but to have a little charging [TS]

00:40:29   pad is easier still so I've just I just [TS]

00:40:32   got a couple of these like they're not [TS]

00:40:33   even great wireless charging pads you [TS]

00:40:35   need to hit it somewhat precisely on the [TS]

00:40:37   center so I'm looking forward to apples [TS]

00:40:39   ones which will let you kind of put it [TS]

00:40:41   down anywhere but even even that it's [TS]

00:40:43   like just putting a wireless charger in [TS]

00:40:46   the places where I normally leave my [TS]

00:40:47   phone I love it I absolutely love it so [TS]

00:40:51   much anything in my life that can remove [TS]

00:40:52   one step and make a thing easier it is [TS]

00:40:55   great [TS]

00:40:56   so twelve out of 10 stars for wireless [TS]

00:41:00   charging it's it's fantastic [TS]

00:41:02   everything make my life easier [TS]

00:41:04   technology this is this is what you're [TS]

00:41:06   here for make my life better in big ways [TS]

00:41:09   and make it easier in small ways yeah [TS]

00:41:12   just I'm not excited about this it [TS]

00:41:14   doesn't work for me with the ways that I [TS]

00:41:15   charge my phone so like I don't I don't [TS]

00:41:18   understand okay I mean so I have two [TS]

00:41:20   docks in my house that I charge my phone [TS]

00:41:22   on okay they're both from a couple of [TS]

00:41:26   friends of mine they have a company [TS]

00:41:28   called Studio neat and they make these [TS]

00:41:29   dogs called the material docks and I [TS]

00:41:32   have one which is just my phone and one [TS]

00:41:34   which is my phone and my watch and you [TS]

00:41:38   just put them in the dock and the phone [TS]

00:41:39   standing up which I like right and with [TS]

00:41:42   the one my on my bedside table I also [TS]

00:41:44   charge my watch on the same dock so like [TS]

00:41:47   my watch on my phone or all in one [TS]

00:41:49   contained little unit but while this [TS]

00:41:51   charging isn't that either of that like [TS]

00:41:54   there are there are wireless charges [TS]

00:41:56   which will put your phone in a in a [TS]

00:41:58   portrait orientation I think Samsung [TS]

00:41:59   make one and I'm looking at some of [TS]

00:42:01   those and I might get one for my desk [TS]

00:42:03   because that's kind of all the the fun [TS]

00:42:06   one is it's just a place where I stand [TS]

00:42:07   it up but I really like that I have in [TS]

00:42:10   my bedroom just one charge a one that [TS]

00:42:12   will contain [TS]

00:42:12   unit that charges everything and I like [TS]

00:42:15   my phone to be standing up when it's [TS]

00:42:17   charging rather than laying down like [TS]

00:42:20   kind of just like the current charges [TS]

00:42:22   that are available is the ones that app [TS]

00:42:23   were promoting like the Belkin one and [TS]

00:42:26   the Mophie one they kind of just these [TS]

00:42:27   discs and you just put your phone on the [TS]

00:42:29   disc and that kind of it doesn't do it [TS]

00:42:31   for me I don't get any extra benefit [TS]

00:42:33   from that at home and then I do from the [TS]

00:42:37   docs that I already have honestly like I [TS]

00:42:39   don't feel like I'm really struggling to [TS]

00:42:42   put my phone and I just stand it up on [TS]

00:42:44   the dock like it goes in very easily and [TS]

00:42:45   it's nicely done [TS]

00:42:46   yeah but the benefit is laziness Mike [TS]

00:42:49   laziness is but I don't know you're [TS]

00:42:54   doing a controlled landing of your phone [TS]

00:42:56   onto the dock right can't just lay these [TS]

00:43:01   things down you have to line it up right [TS]

00:43:03   and so I'm gonna be constantly like I [TS]

00:43:06   know I'm gonna be like just making sure [TS]

00:43:08   I put it on the back just right oh yeah [TS]

00:43:10   I did right so yeah I do get it I do get [TS]

00:43:15   it because um I had a head for a while [TS]

00:43:18   when I was traveling I was using a [TS]

00:43:21   Mophie battery case on my seven plus let [TS]

00:43:26   me tell you makes a big phone yes like [TS]

00:43:28   it's like one of those old motorist [TS]

00:43:30   attacks or something at that point yeah [TS]

00:43:31   it was comically huge Plus that case had [TS]

00:43:35   wireless charging in it which was my [TS]

00:43:37   first experience with wireless charging [TS]

00:43:39   and I really hated it because the base [TS]

00:43:43   and the case had like had zero slop like [TS]

00:43:46   you had to land it precisely or it [TS]

00:43:48   wasn't going to work I thought like oh [TS]

00:43:49   the hell of this right this is this is [TS]

00:43:51   worse than just having a wire I don't [TS]

00:43:52   like it at all [TS]

00:43:54   whereas I just I just got think I just [TS]

00:43:56   got the movie one from my office for the [TS]

00:43:59   iPhone and there's enough slop in there [TS]

00:44:01   that I hit it on target every time and [TS]

00:44:04   so I absolutely love it I'm looking [TS]

00:44:05   forward to the Apple version which [TS]

00:44:08   allows you to charge a few things and [TS]

00:44:10   there's one big advantage here which is [TS]

00:44:13   it will charge the Apple watch which [TS]

00:44:17   means I don't have to bring an apple [TS]

00:44:18   watch charger when I travel which is by [TS]

00:44:21   far and away my least favorite charger [TS]

00:44:24   to bring it's [TS]

00:44:26   it's like one charger for one device I [TS]

00:44:27   hate bringing the Apple watch charger I [TS]

00:44:29   don't like it what's your hesitation I'm [TS]

00:44:31   unconvinced that it's gonna work with my [TS]

00:44:33   Apple watch what do you mean I have one [TS]

00:44:38   of these new sport loops hmm so it [TS]

00:44:41   doesn't you you can't like open the [TS]

00:44:44   watch out and lay it flat because the [TS]

00:44:47   band is one consistent loop of material [TS]

00:44:50   yeah so it's not like a sport band where [TS]

00:44:53   you take it off and you can lay it out [TS]

00:44:55   completely flat on the desk because it's [TS]

00:44:56   two pieces that meet in the middle the [TS]

00:44:58   loop one it kind of just loops around [TS]

00:45:00   your wrist so it doesn't open out is [TS]

00:45:03   that the velcro one is that one yeah the [TS]

00:45:05   new one the new velcro one and it's low [TS]

00:45:07   I'm sorry is the new hook and loop one [TS]

00:45:08   my mistake yes it's not Velcro velcro is [TS]

00:45:11   it's a trademark thing it's like it's [TS]

00:45:13   very anyway further and it's the same as [TS]

00:45:16   like the millones one like the metal one [TS]

00:45:18   that kind of it just like slips in and [TS]

00:45:20   loops around on your wrist [TS]

00:45:21   those don't lay flat on the desk you [TS]

00:45:24   kind of lay them on the side so I don't [TS]

00:45:26   think it will work if I want to use this [TS]

00:45:28   band yeah I mean now here's the thing [TS]

00:45:30   like I'm I totally understand your [TS]

00:45:33   position because and I will do you one a [TS]

00:45:36   thousand times worse which is I love [TS]

00:45:41   love my black metal link band [TS]

00:45:46   yes my evil empire band which is [TS]

00:45:50   incapable of even collapsing to any [TS]

00:45:53   extent right it's it's just a like a [TS]

00:45:55   beautiful ring of metal that is not [TS]

00:45:58   flexible and so I I know that I'm gonna [TS]

00:46:02   have to make some kind of trade-off with [TS]

00:46:04   how that charging is going to work when [TS]

00:46:06   I'm traveling is like maybe I just won't [TS]

00:46:08   be able to bring my beautiful favorite [TS]

00:46:10   band [TS]

00:46:11   with me when I'm traveling as much but [TS]

00:46:13   it's like I'm gonna have to make a [TS]

00:46:14   decision about that with how that works [TS]

00:46:17   when I'm on the road but I am aware that [TS]

00:46:19   like I am not giving up that watch band [TS]

00:46:22   so I have a yeah I have I have a 12 [TS]

00:46:26   South dock that I use to charge my watch [TS]

00:46:29   at home that's a you know hold it up [TS]

00:46:31   vertically and I'm I am aware that [TS]

00:46:32   that's going to have to stick around if [TS]

00:46:34   I'm going to keep my metal band but for [TS]

00:46:37   for traveling purposes I'm willing to [TS]

00:46:39   make some kind of [TS]

00:46:40   compromise about what Apple watch bands [TS]

00:46:42   do I bring if I can get the benefit of [TS]

00:46:44   the wireless charger because I really [TS]

00:46:46   hate bringing the separate Apple watch [TS]

00:46:48   charger I really do I find that kind it [TS]

00:46:51   frustrating though because this is the [TS]

00:46:54   new band that they make and ship by [TS]

00:46:56   default with the watches and they're [TS]

00:46:59   making a charging pad that won't work [TS]

00:47:01   with it and I understand the technology [TS]

00:47:03   at play but I figure you should work you [TS]

00:47:06   find a way around this like there should [TS]

00:47:08   be a workaround and maybe maybe you can [TS]

00:47:12   just loop the band underneath right and [TS]

00:47:15   it will work and if that works then [TS]

00:47:19   great but if there is no way to make it [TS]

00:47:20   work with the sport loop I'm going to be [TS]

00:47:22   very disappointed because this is the [TS]

00:47:25   bet this is the band you make like you [TS]

00:47:26   have Apple has like a whole selection of [TS]

00:47:28   bands that don't completely detach right [TS]

00:47:32   like they have the buckles and there's [TS]

00:47:35   lots of them so there are a lot of their [TS]

00:47:37   watches that don't lay flat because they [TS]

00:47:39   don't detach in the middle the bands [TS]

00:47:40   don't attach in the middle and so [TS]

00:47:42   they're saying that their fancy wireless [TS]

00:47:44   charging thing will work with none of [TS]

00:47:46   those like that is a I would find that [TS]

00:47:48   to be really frustrating honestly I'm [TS]

00:47:50   thinking I'm thinking maybe maybe my [TS]

00:47:53   evil empire watch right it will not Bend [TS]

00:47:55   but can I can I take the air power pad [TS]

00:47:59   and bend it to the watch's will like [TS]

00:48:01   will it will it roll up into a cylinder [TS]

00:48:03   and I can slide the cylinder into the [TS]

00:48:05   middle of the watch will that work I bet [TS]

00:48:06   that is the pad is a is i solid in the [TS]

00:48:10   middle I like this idea I like this idea [TS]

00:48:12   look I'm I'm not going to be the first [TS]

00:48:14   to do it but when these things come out [TS]

00:48:15   somebody out there has to try rolling it [TS]

00:48:18   up correct it like like a paper towel [TS]

00:48:21   roll size and just slide it in the [TS]

00:48:24   middle of the watch band see if it works [TS]

00:48:25   maybe that's Apple's plan maybe that [TS]

00:48:27   maybe that's the way it's gonna work I [TS]

00:48:29   hope I really hope that's yeah I hope so [TS]

00:48:30   too [TS]

00:48:31   that would be fantastic more convenient [TS]

00:48:35   bringing an Apple watch charger rolling [TS]

00:48:39   up my wireless charger every night to [TS]

00:48:42   shove it through my watch ban a plus [TS]

00:48:47   plus way more convenient [TS]

00:48:51   so great when we were preparing for [TS]

00:48:53   today's episode right I was doing [TS]

00:48:56   something on my iPhone and I put my [TS]

00:48:58   iPhone down and I went to make coffee [TS]

00:49:00   and also at the same times making coffee [TS]

00:49:03   I was preparing some lamb soup which is [TS]

00:49:05   a drinking paracetamol type thing I [TS]

00:49:09   don't know how to describe lemsip for [TS]

00:49:10   our American audience or a non UK [TS]

00:49:12   audience what is there or something we [TS]

00:49:14   can compare lemsip to no there isn't and [TS]

00:49:17   part of the problem is as someone who [TS]

00:49:21   has been brought into the lemsip world [TS]

00:49:22   by moving into the UK I feel like [TS]

00:49:26   there's also a you can describe what the [TS]

00:49:28   thing is but there's also there's also [TS]

00:49:30   like a like a psychological comfort that [TS]

00:49:33   surrounds lemsip yes which is difficult [TS]

00:49:35   to explain ok so I have like a slight [TS]

00:49:38   cold right now and it's one of those [TS]

00:49:39   annoying colds that isn't it's there but [TS]

00:49:42   it's not enough to knock me out so it's [TS]

00:49:43   kind of just like floating in the middle [TS]

00:49:45   and it's really frustrating so I'm [TS]

00:49:47   taking lemsip and lemsip is like a cold [TS]

00:49:50   and flu remedy it's mostly paracetamol [TS]

00:49:52   based its flavored in some way and you [TS]

00:49:56   you melt it in boiling water and then [TS]

00:49:58   you drink it like a tea it's like a tea [TS]

00:50:01   with healing properties it's a magical [TS]

00:50:03   tea but but yeah but that's exactly what [TS]

00:50:06   it feels like I'm drinking magic happy [TS]

00:50:09   tea it's like I know this will make me [TS]

00:50:11   feel better or even though I don't want [TS]

00:50:12   to have it like it's magic it's magic [TS]

00:50:13   and I there is a daily good flavor of [TS]

00:50:16   this is apple and cinnamon in my you are [TS]

00:50:19   so wrong lemon is the only except lemon [TS]

00:50:21   is the worst possible flavor an apple [TS]

00:50:24   and cinnamon is only available in the [TS]

00:50:26   winter so I stockpile it I buy like 4 or [TS]

00:50:29   5 boxes every winter so I can keep it [TS]

00:50:31   just in case I need it in other months [TS]

00:50:33   of the year [TS]

00:50:34   let the lemon one is the hell version I [TS]

00:50:37   can't believe that you like the lemon [TS]

00:50:38   version I know I'm so lemon is the best [TS]

00:50:40   but you do need you do need just like a [TS]

00:50:42   like a half teaspoon of sugar to take [TS]

00:50:44   we'll see no but nothing to do that at [TS]

00:50:47   the Apple Oh cinnamon you just need what [TS]

00:50:48   is that see what you're modifying it [TS]

00:50:50   it's not that's not right it's not right [TS]

00:50:52   you're adding to it right the lemon is [TS]

00:50:54   bad because you need to add that a lemon [TS]

00:50:56   you don't need to add to the apple and [TS]

00:50:57   cinnamon the apple and cinnamon is is [TS]

00:50:59   what it is anyway cortex where people [TS]

00:51:03   I was making I was making my lemsip and [TS]

00:51:08   I wanted to set a four hour timer so I [TS]

00:51:11   knew when it was okay for me to have [TS]

00:51:12   some more so I opened do on my Apple [TS]

00:51:15   watch and I hit the little button to [TS]

00:51:17   reset the timer it was at that moment [TS]

00:51:19   that I realized that I think for the [TS]

00:51:22   first time in many years [TS]

00:51:24   I am very content with my technology [TS]

00:51:29   everything right now is working for me [TS]

00:51:32   even at the level that I expect or is [TS]

00:51:35   exceeding my expectations so like right [TS]

00:51:39   now my expectations have been exceeded [TS]

00:51:40   by the iPhone 10 because I've been [TS]

00:51:43   mostly unhappy with the rate of iPhone [TS]

00:51:45   development over the last couple of [TS]

00:51:46   years like I've said in many places [TS]

00:51:49   probably on this show as well that I was [TS]

00:51:51   disappointed with the iPhone 7 because I [TS]

00:51:54   felt like it took away more than it gave [TS]

00:51:56   as a device you know like you'd lost a [TS]

00:51:58   headphone jack lost a physical home [TS]

00:51:59   button and didn't really gain anything [TS]

00:52:01   except waterproofing in my opinion like [TS]

00:52:03   there was just nothing that that phone [TS]

00:52:05   really gave me other than just like the [TS]

00:52:07   general iterative improvements of speed [TS]

00:52:09   and better cameras um and then but the [TS]

00:52:12   iPhone 10 has not only given me more [TS]

00:52:15   improvements it's it's done them at a [TS]

00:52:17   rate which has been uncharacteristic for [TS]

00:52:19   the last few years I'm really happy with [TS]

00:52:21   that [TS]

00:52:21   the Apple watch 3 is a great iterative [TS]

00:52:24   improvement on a relatively new product [TS]

00:52:26   it moves so fast now I love the cellular [TS]

00:52:29   connection to it like it works great and [TS]

00:52:31   then I was thinking like my iPad pros [TS]

00:52:33   the 10.5 inch iPad pro is the best iPad [TS]

00:52:36   that's ever been made in my opinion and [TS]

00:52:38   the 12.9 has just continued to get [TS]

00:52:41   better and better so I'm really happy of [TS]

00:52:43   those and then like even outside of my [TS]

00:52:46   Apple technology like I love my Nintendo [TS]

00:52:50   switch so much like it's my favorite [TS]

00:52:52   gaming console of all time because it is [TS]

00:52:55   the dream console for me it is the [TS]

00:52:57   console that I can play the same games [TS]

00:52:59   no matter wherever I am and the games [TS]

00:53:01   are just getting better and better and [TS]

00:53:03   we're going to talk about those in a [TS]

00:53:04   minute that it's getting better and [TS]

00:53:05   better and I am a big fan of the Amazon [TS]

00:53:09   echo and we just added another device to [TS]

00:53:12   our house so we have three Amazon echoes [TS]

00:53:15   now so we have [TS]

00:53:16   home coverage and both me and Adina are [TS]

00:53:19   doing more and more with it and we're [TS]

00:53:21   really happy with it and I kind of [TS]

00:53:22   realized at that moment that I am very [TS]

00:53:25   happy with the technology that I have in [TS]

00:53:27   my life right now I don't feel like I [TS]

00:53:29   have any major gripes I don't feel like [TS]

00:53:33   I have any areas that are not being [TS]

00:53:35   fulfilled you know like I know that lots [TS]

00:53:38   of people are unhappy with their max but [TS]

00:53:40   I have an iMac and my iMac is more than [TS]

00:53:43   I need for what I do like it's so [TS]

00:53:45   powerful I had the 5k iMac and that [TS]

00:53:48   thing is perfect for my usage like I [TS]

00:53:50   feel like my technology needs are being [TS]

00:53:53   met and exceeded now where the companies [TS]

00:53:55   that I use and I'm really happy about [TS]

00:53:57   that that's it's good to point that out [TS]

00:54:00   because of course on a podcast it is [TS]

00:54:03   always easier and more fun to complain [TS]

00:54:06   about things now I decided that this [TS]

00:54:08   year for me was the year of optimism [TS]

00:54:11   positivity in the things that I talked [TS]

00:54:14   about because I noticed that last year I [TS]

00:54:17   wasn't having as much fun talking about [TS]

00:54:19   technology as I had had in previous [TS]

00:54:21   years because admittedly there were a [TS]

00:54:23   lot of things if you were in the Apple [TS]

00:54:24   camp which were just boring and annoying [TS]

00:54:26   right like a lot of the stuff that they [TS]

00:54:28   was doing I think was falling into one [TS]

00:54:30   of those two camps yeah yeah we [TS]

00:54:32   definitely went through a bit of a [TS]

00:54:33   valley of darkness and then at WWDC this [TS]

00:54:35   year they gave me everything I wanted [TS]

00:54:37   from a software perspective so I decided [TS]

00:54:40   that for the year of because I thought I [TS]

00:54:44   believe that like Apple's year start and [TS]

00:54:46   ends WIBC so it's like they have their [TS]

00:54:48   own start and end to the year oh yeah of [TS]

00:54:50   course [TS]

00:54:51   just like schools exactly and so [TS]

00:54:53   considering how happy I was with that I [TS]

00:54:54   decided that I was going to be more [TS]

00:54:56   optimistic and appreciate the things [TS]

00:54:57   that I like and Apple has been very good [TS]

00:55:00   to me in that everything all of the [TS]

00:55:02   stuff that they've done since WWDC has [TS]

00:55:05   been great and that was my belief that [TS]

00:55:07   was my hope that they were in it last [TS]

00:55:09   year was like a rebuilding year and they [TS]

00:55:11   made some changes and that we'd [TS]

00:55:13   hopefully see the fruits of that [TS]

00:55:14   starting now and I think that for me I'm [TS]

00:55:17   seeing that and I know that there are [TS]

00:55:19   some people that are frustrated about [TS]

00:55:20   like the laptops and stuff like that but [TS]

00:55:22   I don't care because I don't use the [TS]

00:55:23   laptop that much so in my year of [TS]

00:55:27   optimism I have been [TS]

00:55:29   granted with cool great technology it's [TS]

00:55:31   brilliant essentially you say that [TS]

00:55:35   because yeah like I I agree with the [TS]

00:55:40   general case and it's it's similar for [TS]

00:55:43   me like I'm very happy to have the [TS]

00:55:44   different sized iPhone that I've gone [TS]

00:55:46   from like unhappiness about it to this [TS]

00:55:51   cautious optimism that I guess I do have [TS]

00:55:52   a size that is physically much nicer for [TS]

00:55:54   me I do love the new version of the [TS]

00:55:57   Apple watch and I don't think we really [TS]

00:56:01   talked about it very much on the show [TS]

00:56:02   but they did make it faster which font [TS]

00:56:04   which which makes it now feel like oh [TS]

00:56:07   this is a real thing like it's is really [TS]

00:56:10   interesting like maybe the interactions [TS]

00:56:11   and the notifications and things pop up [TS]

00:56:13   only 20% faster in reality but they've [TS]

00:56:16   crossed some threshold that makes it [TS]

00:56:20   feel like it's twice as fast yeah it's [TS]

00:56:22   crossed the threshold to feel like a [TS]

00:56:24   risk computer for me yeah like it's [TS]

00:56:27   actually doing stuff on its own in a [TS]

00:56:30   responsive way like it feels and the LTE [TS]

00:56:32   connection definitely helps with this in [TS]

00:56:34   my mind because I less and less get hit [TS]

00:56:37   with like can't do it [TS]

00:56:39   mm-hmm so like you know and there's [TS]

00:56:41   still a bunch of apps that need to [TS]

00:56:42   support the complete independence that [TS]

00:56:43   the LTE chip gives it but on the whole I [TS]

00:56:46   feel like the devices crossed the [TS]

00:56:48   threshold into becoming its own little [TS]

00:56:50   thing yeah that's exactly what it is [TS]

00:56:53   you're right there by saying it it now [TS]

00:56:55   really feels like it's it's living up to [TS]

00:56:57   the promise of being a wrist computer [TS]

00:56:58   and it feels much much less like you're [TS]

00:57:01   on the moon calling back to Houston and [TS]

00:57:04   seeing you know hey we're there any text [TS]

00:57:06   messages or and then six light seconds [TS]

00:57:08   later you get a reply or like you know [TS]

00:57:10   Siri would be like I'll tap you when I'm [TS]

00:57:12   ready that kind of thing which I know [TS]

00:57:13   you hate right it's just so frustrating [TS]

00:57:16   I feel like I get less of those types of [TS]

00:57:18   things where like the watch is off doing [TS]

00:57:20   its thing and it will get to my request [TS]

00:57:22   when it's ready mmm I do have I do have [TS]

00:57:26   a little bit of an asterisk to this but [TS]

00:57:28   it's still I'm realizing just as I'm [TS]

00:57:31   thinking about this topic that it still [TS]

00:57:33   leads to a same thing like I feel like [TS]

00:57:35   I'm I'm pretty happy with the state of [TS]

00:57:36   Technology now and so my asterisk is [TS]

00:57:41   I still haven't found the iOS 11 [TS]

00:57:44   transition with the iPads or one that [TS]

00:57:46   I've really enjoyed and as I mentioned [TS]

00:57:51   earlier in the show the iPhone isn't [TS]

00:57:55   helping that and I've noticed myself [TS]

00:58:00   kind of pushed away a little bit from [TS]

00:58:03   the iPad because of it just just finding [TS]

00:58:06   some of the things to do a little bit [TS]

00:58:07   awkward and through a series of just [TS]

00:58:11   like happenstance in in the kinds of [TS]

00:58:14   projects that I'm working on right now [TS]

00:58:15   and and some of the things with the way [TS]

00:58:17   my office just happened to go get set up [TS]

00:58:19   I didn't actually set up my new office [TS]

00:58:23   in the glass cube with the iPad like the [TS]

00:58:26   old one was I ended up setting up my new [TS]

00:58:29   office using a laptop and external [TS]

00:58:32   monitors uh-oh I'm very disappointed in [TS]

00:58:35   you no no what are you doing part of the [TS]

00:58:38   reason that I did that is I'm using a [TS]

00:58:40   ton of stuff on Final Cut in the past [TS]

00:58:43   few months and upcoming months so it's [TS]

00:58:46   like I have to have a computer for that [TS]

00:58:47   okay I'll accept that let that's final [TS]

00:58:51   cut on the iPad says but like this is [TS]

00:58:54   part of the thing that which is like [TS]

00:58:55   happenstance actually to give you a [TS]

00:58:58   sense of the final cut stuff if I open [TS]

00:59:00   up my computer here and I take a look I [TS]

00:59:04   have a have a folder with a final cut [TS]

00:59:07   project in it that is currently sitting [TS]

00:59:10   at 12 terabytes in size only moly okay [TS]

00:59:15   no no iOS device is helping you with [TS]

00:59:17   that project so even if I could smoosh [TS]

00:59:21   it down into an iMovie project I don't [TS]

00:59:23   think they sell any case sell an iPad [TS]

00:59:26   with a 12 terabyte drive in it yet but I [TS]

00:59:30   just but I just want to mention this [TS]

00:59:31   because I've just found myself over the [TS]

00:59:35   last little while suddenly with a [TS]

00:59:37   dramatic increase in Mac usage versus [TS]

00:59:41   iPad usage and as someone who has been [TS]

00:59:45   living the multipad lifestyle for the [TS]

00:59:46   past several years going back to the Mac [TS]

00:59:49   for a lot of stuff it's interesting but [TS]

00:59:52   like I actually feel really pleased with [TS]

00:59:54   the whole [TS]

00:59:55   situation like having to work on on my [TS]

00:59:57   Mac for long stretches of time [TS]

00:59:57   Mac for long stretches of time [TS]

01:00:00   I know people complain about the Mac but [TS]

01:00:01   I feel like it's a really solid [TS]

01:00:03   production machine which is exactly what [TS]

01:00:07   I need out of it like I'm sitting down [TS]

01:00:08   to do specific tasks and I'm just aware [TS]

01:00:13   that it's working really well for me and [TS]

01:00:17   it's and so even though I'm in a bit of [TS]

01:00:19   a different situation here I like I'm [TS]

01:00:21   finding the same thing like I'm pretty [TS]

01:00:22   happy with my tech setup as it is right [TS]

01:00:25   now like I said don't worry Mike I don't [TS]

01:00:27   agree with that right like the [TS]

01:00:29   production I mean I've always said like [TS]

01:00:31   the production the shows you know that [TS]

01:00:33   they are occurring on the Mac and I have [TS]

01:00:35   no desire to change that like there's [TS]

01:00:38   that shouldn't have been really any [TS]

01:00:40   different for you from where it was [TS]

01:00:41   before because you weren't making videos [TS]

01:00:42   on your iOS devices [TS]

01:00:44   I just want to make sure that you're not [TS]

01:00:46   abandoning the predominant iPads work [TS]

01:00:50   lifestyle is very importantly you don't [TS]

01:00:53   leave the cause why is it very important [TS]

01:00:56   that I don't leave that why I'm like it [TS]

01:00:58   caused in your ideological Norris buzz [TS]

01:01:00   if you move away all of those Mac people [TS]

01:01:04   are gonna be like see we told you we got [TS]

01:01:06   one back right I can't take that well [TS]

01:01:10   okay well I'm not I'm not involved in [TS]

01:01:12   your ideological differences here I'm [TS]

01:01:15   just I'm just simply saying in the past [TS]

01:01:17   I'm gonna say two or three months the [TS]

01:01:22   vast majority of my working has been on [TS]

01:01:24   a Mac now there's an asterisk to that [TS]

01:01:27   which is essentially all of the writing [TS]

01:01:29   still takes place on an iPad like I [TS]

01:01:31   haven't I have an iPad in my office and [TS]

01:01:33   I use that for all the writing but [TS]

01:01:35   almost everything else is happening on a [TS]

01:01:37   Mac and I'm just I'm just very happy [TS]

01:01:40   with it including administration [TS]

01:01:42   yeah I've ended up just doing [TS]

01:01:43   administration stuff seemed like I was [TS]

01:01:51   just trying to tell a little story about [TS]

01:01:52   how I'm happy with my technology setup [TS]

01:01:53   that's a night you've made me unhappy [TS]

01:01:54   yeah but you can't get attached to your [TS]

01:01:57   tools you are not your tools Mike you [TS]

01:01:59   have to use whatever works great I have [TS]

01:02:00   a very perplexed that iOS 11 has driven [TS]

01:02:04   you away I'm seeing that there is a [TS]

01:02:06   trend of some individuals that this is [TS]

01:02:10   occurring too [TS]

01:02:11   and it seems very peculiar to me because [TS]

01:02:13   from my perspective iOS 11 is vastly [TS]

01:02:18   superior to iOS 10 in almost every way [TS]

01:02:21   there are just things that I've gotten [TS]

01:02:22   used to and you just have to get used to [TS]

01:02:24   some interactions changing but the [TS]

01:02:27   overall flexibility of the operating [TS]

01:02:29   system has increased multiples in [TS]

01:02:31   multiples don't get me wrong [TS]

01:02:34   I agree iOS 11 is the correct direction [TS]

01:02:36   for the operating system to go I'm just [TS]

01:02:39   simply like I mentioned before I find it [TS]

01:02:44   more frustrating on my on the iPad that [TS]

01:02:47   I use for administration where I'm used [TS]

01:02:50   moving around a bunch of stuff and like [TS]

01:02:51   I was just aware of of finding a little [TS]

01:02:54   bit of mental resistance to doing a lot [TS]

01:02:56   of that stuff on the iPad and so it [TS]

01:02:58   wasn't through any kind of intention but [TS]

01:03:00   I just found myself drifting back [TS]

01:03:02   towards using the Mac for it's like oh I [TS]

01:03:04   have a spreadsheet in an email and I'm [TS]

01:03:06   replying to someone in slack about a [TS]

01:03:07   thing and so that's why when I set up my [TS]

01:03:10   office I decided like I'm just gonna go [TS]

01:03:12   I'm gonna roll with this and I'm gonna [TS]

01:03:14   use this is like command center Mac but [TS]

01:03:18   the iPad that I do the writing on where [TS]

01:03:22   I have I find stable pairs of apps like [TS]

01:03:26   that I still prefer to use the iPad 4 [TS]

01:03:28   and I still do use the iPad 4 that but [TS]

01:03:32   I'm just I'm just finding that I'm using [TS]

01:03:34   the Mac for the the Mac has taken back a [TS]

01:03:38   lot of the work that I used to do on an [TS]

01:03:40   iPad several months ago and I'm totally [TS]

01:03:43   fine with that because I'm totally [TS]

01:03:44   agnostic Mike you should be too elastic [TS]

01:03:48   too as well I did I was I was not [TS]

01:03:53   expecting this reaction at all I'm very [TS]

01:03:55   sorry Mike [TS]

01:03:55   you see my heart I'm not hurt but it's [TS]

01:03:59   just like a it's a frustration because I [TS]

01:04:04   feel like you know we were there at the [TS]

01:04:06   forefront of trying to yeah of talking [TS]

01:04:09   about iOS and iPads as productivity [TS]

01:04:11   tools mmm and you taking a step back [TS]

01:04:14   from that you know that's that's that's [TS]

01:04:17   this is gonna start to weaken the [TS]

01:04:18   argument for the multi pad lifestyle [TS]

01:04:21   Multi multi pad lifestyle is a is a [TS]

01:04:24   thing that exists [TS]

01:04:25   in the world independent of us Mike it [TS]

01:04:27   doesn't know doesn't need proponents it [TS]

01:04:29   makes perfect sense I'm just I'm simply [TS]

01:04:32   describing my own situation in my own [TS]

01:04:34   working tools here we don't need to be [TS]

01:04:36   figureheads that's not the way this [TS]

01:04:38   works yeah but you see the thing is I [TS]

01:04:41   can I already know how Mike if that I [TS]

01:04:44   know in the same way that when I was [TS]

01:04:46   talking about my laundry I was getting [TS]

01:04:49   specific messages and I know I knew [TS]

01:04:51   where people were in that episode at [TS]

01:04:53   that point there is going to be a period [TS]

01:04:56   of time in which I am going to start [TS]

01:04:57   getting messages from people I will know [TS]

01:05:00   where they were in that in that moment [TS]

01:05:03   of this episode and I look forward to [TS]

01:05:05   the point where in the future you turn [TS]

01:05:07   around and go like what was wrong with [TS]

01:05:08   me what was I doing you know I was in a [TS]

01:05:11   haze I was in a Mack haze and I'm back [TS]

01:05:14   120 percent to living the iPad lifestyle [TS]

01:05:17   I'll just wait for that moment and I'll [TS]

01:05:19   look forward to then okay when you're [TS]

01:05:21   done making all the videos that I'm sure [TS]

01:05:23   you're making right now [TS]

01:05:24   well again I'm tool agnostic so I'm very [TS]

01:05:27   happy to switch back when it makes sense [TS]

01:05:29   to switch back I'm just simply saying [TS]

01:05:30   for a certain like Gnostic this is a new [TS]

01:05:34   phrase you're throwing around today [TS]

01:05:36   where did all this come from [TS]

01:05:37   well because I'm trying to explain I'm [TS]

01:05:40   trying to explain the situation in in a [TS]

01:05:42   way that you who is a tool [TS]

01:05:45   fundamentalists I don't want to be paint [TS]

01:05:53   it as as anything specific mail by you [TS]

01:05:56   because you start saying these things [TS]

01:05:58   and then everybody goes along with it [TS]

01:06:02   because I've always said like my Mac has [TS]

01:06:05   my as its place as the important center [TS]

01:06:08   of my production but in everything else [TS]

01:06:10   that I do if my business is done on iOS [TS]

01:06:11   now I don't consider that as being like [TS]

01:06:15   agnostic to tools but like appreciating [TS]

01:06:17   tools for their function right like it's [TS]

01:06:20   a slightly different thing but like you [TS]

01:06:21   stop calling me a fundamentalist or [TS]

01:06:24   whatever and this is gonna be a thing [TS]

01:06:26   that people start to call me and then I [TS]

01:06:28   don't want that I mean yeah no I'm not [TS]

01:06:30   saying people should call Mike and iPad [TS]

01:06:32   fundamentalist that's that's ridiculous [TS]

01:06:34   crazy right that's not a thing that you [TS]

01:06:36   should do you wouldn't want to tar and [TS]

01:06:38   feather him with [TS]

01:06:39   the word like that I would be above [TS]

01:06:41   encouraging people to do something like [TS]

01:06:43   that because I'm just floating here on [TS]

01:06:45   this ethereal realm and picking whatever [TS]

01:06:47   tools happen to work for me at any [TS]

01:06:49   particular moment and right now for [TS]

01:06:51   certain kinds of tasks I find myself [TS]

01:06:52   using my Mac to do those tasks but in [TS]

01:06:55   the future I may reach down and and use [TS]

01:06:57   iPads again to use those tasks it just [TS]

01:06:59   depends on on what is best at a [TS]

01:07:01   particular time I was making my lemsip [TS]

01:07:03   and I opened the Google Doc and I typed [TS]

01:07:06   in some bullet points for a really happy [TS]

01:07:08   topic which was then gonna take me into [TS]

01:07:10   talking to you about video games this [TS]

01:07:12   wasn't how this was supposed to go I [TS]

01:07:13   feel I feel bad to like like I wasn't [TS]

01:07:16   expecting this reaction from you I [TS]

01:07:18   thought we were I thought we were both [TS]

01:07:20   going to have a nice conversation about [TS]

01:07:22   how we're we're very happy I'm very busy [TS]

01:07:25   that you're very happy I was simply [TS]

01:07:27   going to just mention this interesting [TS]

01:07:29   thing that I have noted in it in a [TS]

01:07:31   change in my own in my own behavior [TS]

01:07:33   here's the thing raise the thing right [TS]

01:07:35   so this is the difference between cortex [TS]

01:07:37   lunch and real lunch okay so in real [TS]

01:07:40   lunch I would be like oh that's that's [TS]

01:07:42   really interesting because it's really [TS]

01:07:44   interesting but in cortex lunch I now [TS]

01:07:47   know what happens afterwards which is [TS]

01:07:49   when everybody else hears the [TS]

01:07:52   conversation and then the reactions that [TS]

01:07:54   people have towards the conversation [TS]

01:07:56   which doesn't usually happen when we're [TS]

01:07:58   two sitting across from a table with [TS]

01:08:00   each other because when everybody hears [TS]

01:08:02   this conversation there are gonna be [TS]

01:08:05   lots of assumptions made and then lots [TS]

01:08:07   of things said that's that's that's the [TS]

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01:10:34   about video games Mike so a few weeks [TS]

01:10:37   ago I told you to play study valley and [TS]

01:10:40   you told me you would play stardew [TS]

01:10:42   valley stardew valley is this like RPG [TS]

01:10:46   type farming simulator type Sims type [TS]

01:10:50   Harvest Moon type Animal Crossing game [TS]

01:10:52   is all of those things mixed into one is [TS]

01:10:55   starting valley it's been available for [TS]

01:10:57   a long time on the PC and it came out on [TS]

01:10:59   the switch like a month or so ago and I [TS]

01:11:02   asked you to play and I want to know if [TS]

01:11:05   you've played and what you think [TS]

01:11:06   ideally I have played stardew valley [TS]

01:11:09   okay I don't think I want to know [TS]

01:11:16   anymore this is not your day Mike but [TS]

01:11:27   let me tell you I didn't like stardew [TS]

01:11:29   valley I didn't like stardew valley a [TS]

01:11:31   lot was I promised myself I promised [TS]

01:11:37   myself I was going to make it through [TS]

01:11:39   one year in stardew oh man I really gave [TS]

01:11:43   it the college try to yeah because it's [TS]

01:11:46   because because with many games it can [TS]

01:11:48   often be the case where you have some [TS]

01:11:50   kind of learning curve or and it just [TS]

01:11:52   takes you a while to settle into a [TS]

01:11:53   rhythm and I definitely know that's the [TS]

01:11:55   case with many kind of games that I play [TS]

01:11:56   that it can take it can take a while [TS]

01:11:58   there's a lot to learn but but a year in [TS]

01:12:02   stardew valley as far as I can tell is [TS]

01:12:04   like an infinity of subjective [TS]

01:12:06   experience of just tilling the ground [TS]

01:12:11   and pulling the turnips out like some [TS]

01:12:14   kind of peasant it's there a couple of [TS]

01:12:17   things I need to ask you though right so [TS]

01:12:19   I can try and assess how much of a [TS]

01:12:21   accurate try you gave this game did you [TS]

01:12:24   build sprinklers I built sprinklers do [TS]

01:12:27   you have the Long Knives [TS]

01:12:29   and yes I had chickens already tipped [TS]

01:12:33   you over the edge yeah that would have [TS]

01:12:35   gotten me playing faster I was very [TS]

01:12:36   excited about the beehives beehives by [TS]

01:12:38   the way had one of the best mechanics [TS]

01:12:39   which is they shut the hell up and [TS]

01:12:41   produce honey for me [TS]

01:12:42   great I don't need I don't need to be I [TS]

01:12:45   don't need to be like with these [TS]

01:12:46   chickens going into the barn every day [TS]

01:12:48   and hand pulling out strands of hay to [TS]

01:12:52   give to these stupid chickens so that [TS]

01:12:53   they'll keep laying eggs for me it's [TS]

01:12:55   bees they know what the deal is like you [TS]

01:12:58   make honey that's your job if you keep [TS]

01:13:00   upgrading your coops they start to be [TS]

01:13:03   self-feeding [TS]

01:13:04   yeah only the only the final coop is is [TS]

01:13:06   self eating I'm aware of this but it's [TS]

01:13:08   like I was I was rushing towards that [TS]

01:13:11   final coop as fast as I can but it's [TS]

01:13:13   like stuff takes a long time in starting [TS]

01:13:14   Valley I'm very upset about this I [TS]

01:13:16   really hope that you would like this [TS]

01:13:18   game so I can see [TS]

01:13:20   here's the thing I can see why people [TS]

01:13:23   would think that I would like this game [TS]

01:13:28   because I often say that I like work [TS]

01:13:30   simulators and boy boy is this game work [TS]

01:13:34   it's work on very many different levels [TS]

01:13:37   but whatever [TS]

01:13:38   what I realized playing this game is [TS]

01:13:40   that all of the things that I think of [TS]

01:13:43   as as work simulators there's a key [TS]

01:13:46   thing that I never really recognized [TS]

01:13:49   which is some some level of management [TS]

01:13:53   where's like I'm not I'm not necessarily [TS]

01:13:55   doing the work directly like I'm I am [TS]

01:13:59   managing characters in the games that [TS]

01:14:02   are doing the work form late you're not [TS]

01:14:04   morning the truck driving though are you [TS]

01:14:06   you are driving the truck okay but so [TS]

01:14:08   truck simulator truck simulator is an [TS]

01:14:10   interesting case but even it has a tiny [TS]

01:14:12   bit of this which is that you have [TS]

01:14:13   employees who very quickly can start [TS]

01:14:16   earning more money than you're making on [TS]

01:14:17   your actual routes like that there is a [TS]

01:14:20   level of other people are making yet but [TS]

01:14:22   you still drive the trucks they like you [TS]

01:14:24   know they're just sitting in an office [TS]

01:14:25   waiting for people to come back yeah so [TS]

01:14:29   trucks like truck simulator is is the [TS]

01:14:30   closest thing that to like what is an [TS]

01:14:32   actual work simulator because you are [TS]

01:14:34   doing the job although again like truck [TS]

01:14:35   simulator to me falls into the category [TS]

01:14:37   of barely a game but stardew valley is [TS]

01:14:43   what's just struck me to me as the worst [TS]

01:14:46   of this kind of thing because it's it's [TS]

01:14:48   work and it's tedious like you have to [TS]

01:14:52   plow the little fields you have to plant [TS]

01:14:54   each of the seeds one by one like you [TS]

01:14:58   need to then pull these turnips out of [TS]

01:15:01   the ground one by one and then you need [TS]

01:15:04   to drop each of them into the box over [TS]

01:15:06   there okay so and I think that you don't [TS]

01:15:09   get the feeling of like calm but people [TS]

01:15:17   get from these types of games so like [TS]

01:15:18   what you're describing this like one by [TS]

01:15:21   one you're like you are describing it as [TS]

01:15:23   like a monotonous repetitive activity [TS]

01:15:25   that you don't enjoy but what I get from [TS]

01:15:28   this game and everyone that I know that [TS]

01:15:30   likes this game gets from this game with [TS]

01:15:32   the farming aspect [TS]

01:15:34   is a this is nice and simple and easy [TS]

01:15:37   and like relaxing like that's kind of [TS]

01:15:39   how I feel when I'm playing the game but [TS]

01:15:42   if you don't get that kind of feeling [TS]

01:15:45   from these types of games then you're [TS]

01:15:47   not gonna enjoy the farming aspect of [TS]

01:15:50   this game yeah this game is very much [TS]

01:15:53   like tilling a garden right that's a [TS]

01:15:55   thing your eyes are going like joy oh [TS]

01:15:57   you're not going to enjoy yeah I kind of [TS]

01:15:59   just feel a kind of just I'm playing [TS]

01:16:01   this game and I can listen to podcasts [TS]

01:16:03   and just relax and just keep playing it [TS]

01:16:06   and if I want to go and do a thing I can [TS]

01:16:08   do a thing but really all I need to do [TS]

01:16:10   is just make sure that I'm kind of just [TS]

01:16:11   looking after my farm right yeah I [TS]

01:16:14   totally get that and and this is you [TS]

01:16:17   know do you bring up truck simulator [TS]

01:16:19   it's it's the exact same argument [TS]

01:16:20   they're like if you don't have a sense [TS]

01:16:23   of mindless Zen driving truck simulator [TS]

01:16:26   truck simulator is not for you and it [TS]

01:16:28   looks like it's insanity right and I [TS]

01:16:30   guess the difference between like staad [TS]

01:16:33   you and truck simulators like truck [TS]

01:16:35   simulator is just like movement without [TS]

01:16:37   really doing much you're just adjusting [TS]

01:16:40   every now and then whilst the type of [TS]

01:16:43   feeling for Star you is the Zen in the [TS]

01:16:46   repetitiveness where there's not really [TS]

01:16:48   a lot repetitiveness in truck simulator [TS]

01:16:50   yeah like if we're getting to like down [TS]

01:16:52   and dirty into the mechanics that's [TS]

01:16:54   that's exactly what this is it's like [TS]

01:16:56   how does a game hold your attention and [TS]

01:17:01   stardew valley is like the active [TS]

01:17:04   version of a truck simulator it holds [TS]

01:17:06   your attention by asking you to do these [TS]

01:17:08   repetitive tasks over and over again and [TS]

01:17:11   I can totally see how this zones someone [TS]

01:17:15   into a particular state right whereas [TS]

01:17:19   truck simulator is like attention [TS]

01:17:22   without action like it's a much more [TS]

01:17:26   empty experience which is why I totally [TS]

01:17:29   get when some people think it's it's [TS]

01:17:30   like insanity [TS]

01:17:30   that someone could play it because [TS]

01:17:32   you're not doing anything and I feel [TS]

01:17:34   like my brain is much more rewarded by [TS]

01:17:37   that experience like the empty attention [TS]

01:17:40   of nothing is happening versus you have [TS]

01:17:44   to pay attention to this thing and [TS]

01:17:45   repeat the same action over and over [TS]

01:17:47   like that there is something hardwired [TS]

01:17:51   in my brain that just hates the [TS]

01:17:53   repetitive action like really deeply [TS]

01:17:57   hates the repetitive action so stardew [TS]

01:17:59   valley was was not was not for me what [TS]

01:18:03   now again I don't understand why are you [TS]

01:18:05   so invested in me liking stardew valley [TS]

01:18:07   like I find that kind of funny there's a [TS]

01:18:09   couple of things one I love this game [TS]

01:18:11   mmm and I was convinced you would like [TS]

01:18:14   it because it has a lot of elements that [TS]

01:18:17   I know you enjoy but I think the [TS]

01:18:18   implementation is different and there's [TS]

01:18:22   like a novel part of it like there is a [TS]

01:18:23   multiplayer version of this game coming [TS]

01:18:27   with it seems like it's a very hands-off [TS]

01:18:30   multiplayer where like you and some [TS]

01:18:32   friends to share a farm right and I [TS]

01:18:35   thought it might be just a fun game we [TS]

01:18:36   could play you know we could be friends [TS]

01:18:38   sharing the farm together I like playing [TS]

01:18:40   games with my friends but this is like a [TS]

01:18:42   multiplayer game where we don't need to [TS]

01:18:44   necessarily be actively playing I think [TS]

01:18:46   it's the way it works like together so [TS]

01:18:48   we can kind of be a bit hands off me [TS]

01:18:50   it's my understanding of how it works I [TS]

01:18:51   could I don't understand the complete [TS]

01:18:53   mechanic checks it's not available I'm [TS]

01:18:55   just frustrated about this because I was [TS]

01:18:57   I was sure that I'd found a game you [TS]

01:19:00   might like I will say though the more [TS]

01:19:02   time I put into it the less convinced [TS]

01:19:04   that was of this no you had to draw it a [TS]

01:19:08   growing sense of because because after [TS]

01:19:11   you do a lot of like the automation that [TS]

01:19:14   you would do for a farm so like you're [TS]

01:19:16   there there are things as the game goes [TS]

01:19:18   on where you were able well basically [TS]

01:19:20   all you're doing is is harvesting the [TS]

01:19:22   crops eventually right Ryker's all the [TS]

01:19:24   animals get fed themselves all the [TS]

01:19:26   plants get watered themselves right like [TS]

01:19:28   it's that becomes way more hands-off [TS]

01:19:30   yeah and the part of the reason for this [TS]

01:19:33   is because then you can start to explore [TS]

01:19:34   a lot of the relationship focused [TS]

01:19:36   aspects of the game which I figured you [TS]

01:19:39   would have absolutely zero interest in [TS]

01:19:41   oh my god yeah yeah I got way less [TS]

01:19:46   convinced about your ability to enjoy [TS]

01:19:48   this game yeah it was funny because I [TS]

01:19:50   could I could feel I could feel stardew [TS]

01:19:53   nudging me into hey do you want to play [TS]

01:19:56   social obligations the game [TS]

01:19:59   no I don't he's not gonna like it he's [TS]

01:20:06   not gonna like it and yeah but it's like [TS]

01:20:09   there's all these funny things there's [TS]

01:20:10   like I see what you're doing game I see [TS]

01:20:11   what you're trying like I'm just trying [TS]

01:20:13   to head off to this corner of this cave [TS]

01:20:14   so I can find some skeletons and collect [TS]

01:20:17   some copper so I can get these goddamn [TS]

01:20:18   sprinklers built way faster I thought [TS]

01:20:21   that was like my number one activity [TS]

01:20:22   it's like how do I convert nature into [TS]

01:20:24   sprinkle I spent an entire winter in the [TS]

01:20:27   mines getting like I had sprinklers by [TS]

01:20:33   summer everything is dedicated to [TS]

01:20:39   getting sprinklers because if I have to [TS]

01:20:42   water one more sunflower I'm gonna kill [TS]

01:20:45   everybody who you can upgrade your [TS]

01:20:49   watering can to copper like no I'm not [TS]

01:20:52   interested in this there will be no [TS]

01:20:54   watering cans but so I can see the [TS]

01:20:59   things were the villagers were you know [TS]

01:21:01   they're like dropping hints about gifts [TS]

01:21:03   they want a like I'd have no interested [TS]

01:21:05   in is whatsoever or I accidentally gave [TS]

01:21:08   someone a present and they complained [TS]

01:21:09   about it and I'm like oh god I hate this [TS]

01:21:11   so much I don't even know how I gave you [TS]

01:21:13   this thing I didn't want you and now [TS]

01:21:14   you're complaining it you're complaining [TS]

01:21:16   to me about this gift like you NPC like [TS]

01:21:18   just get out of my way I'm trying to [TS]

01:21:19   move right pasture here but like that [TS]

01:21:24   that said I do have to give I do to give [TS]

01:21:26   stardew valley two huge points point [TS]

01:21:32   number one is the the visual style of it [TS]

01:21:36   the pixel art the pixel art is just [TS]

01:21:42   gorgeous and and breathtaking it's maybe [TS]

01:21:46   one of the best retro pixel art [TS]

01:21:50   implementations I've ever seen in a game [TS]

01:21:52   that's a style that lots of games [TS]

01:21:54   imitate I think because it's probably [TS]

01:21:58   easier to do or cheaper or faster to do [TS]

01:22:01   in some ways but it's also really easy [TS]

01:22:02   to make look like garbage and stardew [TS]

01:22:04   valley just looks gorgeous from start to [TS]

01:22:07   finish every part of the little village [TS]

01:22:08   the caves the monsters like all of the [TS]

01:22:11   crops the animals [TS]

01:22:13   I absolutely just loved the look of it [TS]

01:22:14   you know seven out of five stars in [TS]

01:22:17   terms of graphics is amazing and then [TS]

01:22:20   the second thing which I again big [TS]

01:22:22   points to stardew valley it was and [TS]

01:22:24   we're gonna get into some minor spoiler [TS]

01:22:26   territory here if anyone wants to play [TS]

01:22:27   stardew valley but that opening the like [TS]

01:22:32   the way the game actually is yeah starts [TS]

01:22:35   yeah i love is like wow I have watched [TS]

01:22:38   movies that have gotten less of an [TS]

01:22:41   emotional reaction out I wasn't [TS]

01:22:43   expecting that at all [TS]

01:22:44   yeah then the opening of this game so [TS]

01:22:46   like it so it's like you think like I'm [TS]

01:22:48   gonna go play some farming simulator but [TS]

01:22:50   it starts out like with this really grim [TS]

01:22:52   shot of you just in this cubicle and [TS]

01:22:55   they they just established so quickly [TS]

01:22:59   this feeling of like this is not really [TS]

01:23:03   what you thought your life was going to [TS]

01:23:05   be and you're just in this cube and it's [TS]

01:23:07   gray and grim as like it's it just like [TS]

01:23:13   man it was pitch perfect and I thought [TS]

01:23:17   what it was just a good example of art [TS]

01:23:21   evoking emotion in people so like that I [TS]

01:23:24   thought that that opening was brilliant [TS]

01:23:25   was really really well done did you know [TS]

01:23:27   this game was made by one person a [TS]

01:23:29   hundred percent of it the music the [TS]

01:23:31   right age the development and they are [TS]

01:23:34   all one person [TS]

01:23:35   now this the developers name was [TS]

01:23:39   concerned Ape is the company what it's [TS]

01:23:41   the one person it's now being published [TS]

01:23:44   by a company called chuckle fish who [TS]

01:23:45   helping with a lot of the advancement [TS]

01:23:47   and the ports of the game and stuff like [TS]

01:23:49   that but study valley was made by just [TS]

01:23:53   one guy I think it's nine years I'm not [TS]

01:23:58   surprised [TS]

01:23:59   like it's an incredible tour de force to [TS]

01:24:01   do that [TS]

01:24:02   I keep even though the caves not to my [TS]

01:24:04   liking obviously that this is this is [TS]

01:24:06   like I wouldn't have believed that a [TS]

01:24:10   single person can do this like this it's [TS]

01:24:12   it's astounding [TS]

01:24:16   like that combination to be able to do [TS]

01:24:18   the art that well and the like in the [TS]

01:24:21   music is great too and also have the [TS]

01:24:24   programming skills to be able to [TS]

01:24:26   implement it [TS]

01:24:26   I feel like that is a is a rare [TS]

01:24:29   combination yep and I the game seems [TS]

01:24:35   like it's very successful today and yeah [TS]

01:24:38   I hope that person is just rolling [TS]

01:24:42   around in piles of money from this game [TS]

01:24:44   because they deserve it they totally [TS]

01:24:46   deserve it that's astounding [TS]

01:24:48   look luckily I have other friends that [TS]

01:24:51   play the game when we play and we talk [TS]

01:24:53   about it together so I was thinking you [TS]

01:24:56   might be the only person that I know [TS]

01:24:58   that would care about stardew valley [TS]

01:24:59   mm-hmm but I was wrong so I'm happy yeah [TS]

01:25:04   well you recorded an episode of top 4 [TS]

01:25:06   yeah we're discussing the singles that [TS]

01:25:08   start event yeah that right yeah me and [TS]

01:25:10   the and tiffin Marco Ammon and Alex [TS]

01:25:12   corpse we rated our favorite for singles [TS]

01:25:15   our top four singles single people in [TS]

01:25:18   study valley so people can go listen to [TS]

01:25:20   that and we talked a lot about our love [TS]

01:25:23   of the game so like you know if if [TS]

01:25:25   you're here and you're either a interest [TS]

01:25:28   it'll be sad about the fact that crazy [TS]

01:25:30   also doesn't like it you can listen to [TS]

01:25:32   that episode and you can hear us talk [TS]

01:25:34   about our love of the game in great [TS]

01:25:36   detail it was worth ago I'm gonna keep [TS]

01:25:39   trying until I can recommend the game to [TS]

01:25:41   you that you enjoy it I'm gonna keep [TS]

01:25:43   going I don't think I've been able to do [TS]

01:25:45   it yet but one day I'm gonna get there [TS]

01:25:47   yeah to be fair I'm a hard person to [TS]

01:25:49   recommend games for I've recognized this [TS]

01:25:51   yes like oh I've definitely found the [TS]

01:25:54   game you like nope but but nonetheless I [TS]

01:25:58   do want to re-emphasize I am glad to [TS]

01:26:00   have tried it it's not a game for me but [TS]

01:26:04   it's a like as someone who plays a lot [TS]

01:26:08   of games this is just an interesting [TS]

01:26:10   game to have at least tried and have a [TS]

01:26:12   mental framework for for something [TS]

01:26:16   that's that's very different and and I'd [TS]

01:26:18   like I did enjoy the opening and the the [TS]

01:26:21   art is just gorgeous it's absolutely [TS]

01:26:23   gorgeous so I love it for that but I [TS]

01:26:25   will uh I will not be starting again in [TS]

01:26:29   the spring to manually dig out some new [TS]

01:26:33   crops and plants I think the thing I'm [TS]

01:26:34   most frustrated about is the fact that [TS]

01:26:36   you actually played it for an entire [TS]

01:26:37   year [TS]

01:26:38   I was thinking like if you didn't like [TS]

01:26:41   it at least you've just maybe played [TS]

01:26:42   like five days and was like nope and I [TS]

01:26:44   could be like oh you didn't give it [TS]

01:26:46   enough time but after a year playing the [TS]

01:26:49   game for an in-game year if you don't [TS]

01:26:51   like that I can't imagine that you would [TS]

01:26:52   like it so yeah yeah and the in-game the [TS]

01:26:56   in-game time is a long time like yeah I [TS]

01:26:58   don't know how many hours it is but a [TS]

01:26:59   year is a long time in terms of actual [TS]

01:27:01   hours it's enough time to know a year [TS]

01:27:04   it's enough time for sure [TS]