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Ep. 263: "Rear Admiral Crunch"

 

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00:00:22   hello hi John hi Merlyn how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/22">TS</a>]

00:00:26   super good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   are you having a nice morning so far a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   pretty good morning yeah T good morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33   you know I'm trying to I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   practice better sleep hygiene I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/35">TS</a>]

00:00:38   rumors about this yeah and the Sun now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/38">TS</a>]

00:00:41   the Sun has become my friend the Sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   accommodates us it's finally like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   normal day yeah I accept we're about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   daylight savings time it again uh like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/48">TS</a>]

00:00:52   week from now it's all gonna go to shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/54">TS</a>]

00:00:54   it's only in the last week that sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   feels like a normal time and I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01   don't mind the dark mornings but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02   feels like it came up I mean you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   different latitude longitude you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   different horizontal than I am that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/67">TS</a>]

00:01:07   latitude what does that do to your day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/67">TS</a>]

00:01:11   mean it's both right cuz I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   being in Portland and thinking their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14   time feels different here it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   different yeah and the summertime the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/76">TS</a>]

00:01:18   Sun doesn't go down until like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/78">TS</a>]

00:01:21   10:00 but in the winter especially after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/81">TS</a>]

00:01:25   the after the the daylight savings time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28   comes in the Sun Goes Down at 4:00 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/88">TS</a>]

00:01:32   and so that's too early John that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   right it's the worst and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/95">TS</a>]

00:01:36   reason for daylight savings time up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   it doesn't it all it does is is pummel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41   us nobody cares if it's like light at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/101">TS</a>]

00:01:46   give your family more time to collect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   their potatoes yeah yes so so appalling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/108">TS</a>]

00:01:52   it's like when you get home from work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   it's already dark when you get home from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   school it's like already dark there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   daylight that is hard on my lady friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   man she works for a living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01   it sucks to leave work while the Sun is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   setting is gross it's terrible well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06   know what I was growing up in the winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/126">TS</a>]

00:02:09   you never saw the Sun I had a classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   my fifth and sixth grade classroom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   in a converted locker room because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/133">TS</a>]

00:02:17   hotter the school my elementary school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/137">TS</a>]

00:02:21   had been a Catholic school like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   private school and somehow the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26   absorbed it but there but it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29   quite big enough to to accommodate all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/149">TS</a>]

00:02:33   the students and so they and also there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/155">TS</a>]

00:02:36   locker rooms because it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37   elementary school now instead of I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   I think it was a Catholic junior high or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   something okay so they turned the locker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   room into a into a class and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/164">TS</a>]

00:02:49   great in there it was like this it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   like this little it wasn't little it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   big but it was all carpeted they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   carpeted the floors I think they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   carpeted like they put carpet on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   everything they could and it just felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/181">TS</a>]

00:03:02   like a little womb in there but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   problem is you would go in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   morning and it would be dark and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   would come out at night and it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   dark and it was like you just I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/189">TS</a>]

00:03:13   guess on sunny days they would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   would give us recess and we'd go outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16   and get a little Sun but there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/196">TS</a>]

00:03:20   windows right so you couldn't look out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   and even see no good that's good body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/201">TS</a>]

00:03:25   clock it does but it was like living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   inside of a beanbag chair I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   about it I kind of miss it I would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31   it go back to my fifth grade class and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   just curl up in the corner and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   watership down a Sat book you left alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   it is a sad book huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   it is that book um I want to circle back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44   to your sleep because I I'm not up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   date on your other program but I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   to hear about your sleep I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/227">TS</a>]

00:03:48   I've talked about this too much lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   so I'm just gonna say this I'm uh I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   feelings about time and I have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55   feelings about time and keeps on tickin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   and yeah I my thought on this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/237">TS</a>]

00:04:03   pick one just pick one good time I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   if we're gonna do daylight saving time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   let's do that all the time if we do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   other one let's do the other one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   let's just do one and stick with it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   the change is you have a kid now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   old enough that you're probably facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   this when daylight saving time starts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   feels criminal to a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   mm-hmm it's not even near sunset you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   supposed to go to bed while the Sun is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   still visible in the sky I will farm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   people no thanks Marcia are we what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34   what is happening we need to just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   one in and stick with it I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   Jim I have a lot of other feelings but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/278">TS</a>]

00:04:39   just for the purposes of this program I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   just want to say let's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/281">TS</a>]

00:04:42   overcomplicate this it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   daylight savings time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   and the electoral college gam starting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/286">TS</a>]

00:04:50   list are the same right they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53   things that we need to eliminate but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56   there's a lot of investment in it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/296">TS</a>]

00:05:00   no you know it's like the sunk cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   fallacy nobody really cares what we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04   invested in them like it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   like it's not like it would cost us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/306">TS</a>]

00:05:10   really any money we just were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   emotionally invested in these dumb ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/312">TS</a>]

00:05:15   that are and also like the electro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   college is getting worse the time thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   sucks but it's always sucked mostly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/319">TS</a>]

00:05:20   same the electro college problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   getting worse yeah but there's no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   know that's not like the it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   the people in power presently are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   to do anything about I know I know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30   as more people move to cities and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   collections of various political parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   tend to get more kind of collect or pool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/334">TS</a>]

00:05:38   down to these same areas I mean come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   Montana really it's awful so but what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   we do it's another example of of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   what of a situation where they just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   to give us the keys let's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   do-nothing Congress Congress keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/351">TS</a>]

00:05:55   changing or changing our clock the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   government wasn't it Arizona that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   decided in their in their way the path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   they passed a referendum where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   wouldn't celebrate Martin Luther King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06   Day and also they wouldn't go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   daylight savings yeah oh yeah and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11   that still true is it still the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   state that won't switch over hip-hop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   songs about that I feel like and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   pretty sure that Arizona is still off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21   the daylight saving time but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/381">TS</a>]

00:06:26   there's videos you can watch about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/386">TS</a>]

00:06:27   that are that will that will make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/387">TS</a>]

00:06:28   extra super mad because there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   are areas where like to two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   sides of the street you know are like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   different times there's stuff it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   bananas oh I'm so mad already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   yeah that's I'm so mad I'm so mad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   know that's like splitting families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   apart it's like kind of temporal Civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   War yeah that's right that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   what it is one side over here the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   side over here it's got no soup yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   the brother against brother but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52   other one doesn't find out for an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   it's just like in East Germany I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   remember seeing after they took the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   down there were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   these situations where it I guess when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   the wall was there it was maybe less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   clear because there was a giant wall but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/426">TS</a>]

00:07:11   when the wall went down you realized how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   many places came out in the countryside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   that they'd that just like in Berlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   they ran this wall down the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   the street and there was a house over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   here and there was a house over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   and all of a sudden there was a no-man's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   land between them where they had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   like neighbors where you could call from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   the porch and like your Leahy who that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/452">TS</a>]

00:07:36   that's so arbitrary it's like a tornado [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   you know you just it's ridiculous right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   it's crazy it's crazy and and you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   can stand in those places now and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/462">TS</a>]

00:07:43   be like wait a minute wait a minute wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   wait these were two separate countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   before like like really it's across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49   street what else goes on the list I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   got don't talk about your sleep I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52   daylight saving time I got the electoral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   college are there other things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   once a good idea for a reason that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   sticking around in a way that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   perhaps harming us more than helping us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/481">TS</a>]

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00:15:48   know it's me and then my bank will give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   you this much money if it's in them it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53   made a lot of sense but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54   doing that so much now people especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   the millenniums the millenniums don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   even understand what cash is anymore by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/958">TS</a>]

00:16:03   some Altoids and the user leaves their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   chip card yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06   that's why I keep I keep paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   millenniums for things in in Canadian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   currency because they don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   difference I'm like here you go this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   two loonies and a toonie and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/973">TS</a>]

00:16:17   like thanks thanks man priests process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   is real gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/980">TS</a>]

00:16:21   that's a Canadian doubloon blooney a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/981">TS</a>]

00:16:25   doubloon e huh yeah they they put it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/985">TS</a>]

00:16:29   into their mouths and they they bite on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   it because they've seen Olympians do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   that with their gold medal our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33   prospectors counterfeit money I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/993">TS</a>]

00:16:40   from prospectors I actually still get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:44   book of checks oh I think I know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:48   I pay people that come around oh sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:52   my psalm wouldn't turn down a check I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   bet no no in fact they paid him with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   check I pay people that come around I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1016">TS</a>]

00:17:00   like to have every kind of financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01   instruments available because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   a lot of people that I do business with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   the don't they don't trust the banks do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   you want a German bearer bond yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   that's right that's right and the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   get them is that I shut down the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   electrical grid mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   ladies and gentlemen I give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   f-b-i smell that coffee they pack them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   with coffee but I just I just found out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:25   the other day because you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   don't like to sit and yell at companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   or corporation you know that's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   happen I don't like to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   recently Chase Bank some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:47   problem and Jesus was now in your bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   box yeah there's a problem we've written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:53   a thousand word letter to them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   States Attorney General so so you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1075">TS</a>]

00:18:01   letter was drafted a minute went out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   we edited it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   and now it's ready to send cowboy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   States Attorney General is gonna hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   about it when I was growing up we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   used the National Bank of Alaska and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   there were a lot of there was the bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17   it's a National Bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   well the National Bank of Alaska it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   the bank of the nation of Alaska okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   when my dad worked for the Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:25   Railroad we used the Alaska Railroad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   employees Federal Credit Union and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:31   was my first book of checks and when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34   and that was like 12 years old my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   was like I'm getting you a checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   account and I was like oh my god I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   big I could almost drive and they let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:44   pick out the kind of checks I wanted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   of course I got the ones with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49   Western theme that looked like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   parchment and my checkbook looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:55   hand tooled leather that's a good look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   that's a really good look it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   impressed by it and so because I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   to be prepared I went through and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   signed every check in advance so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:05   didn't have to worry about doing it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:12   hand-tooled leather book of checks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:16   blank side checked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   that was my first experience before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   my bank account that I had down here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   Seattle when I was a kid you know I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   a bank book they not only millenniums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:30   one book yeah but even like Generation Y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   won't understand what that is but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   give you a password a book like a pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   it was and it was like a little ledger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   yeah and every time you made a deposit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   they would like write it in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44   and and and every time you you admit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:47   withdrawn so you could keep this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   book oh my god I pored over this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53   book you know because every every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   somebody would give me 25 cents I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   put it in a shoebox then when I got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   enough money that it was worth a trip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   the bank I would carry my shoebox in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   the bank and give them and open the lid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   and say like here I made a dollar doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   this and I mowed the lawn for six weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   and let's say say that there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12   people in life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:15   they loved kids because everyone had all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   the time in the world but that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   you can't there be 16 people at windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   yeah right and the carpets on the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   and they were giving away toasters going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   to the baby I got my first digital clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   radio came from a bank bank right first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:33   Supertramp was on a bank radio really oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   the rig wasn't at the bank no no I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   to take it home plug in and take out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   box and whatnot yeah but National Bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   it wasn't a real digital clock it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   one of the ones that flipped away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:45   couldja flipper Chuck I was at a thrift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:49   store the other day and I saw one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:50   those and it was the same one that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53   had as a kid and I I was walking through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   the shelves you know looking at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56   crap and I saw this thing from afar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   just had that like that bursts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   familiarity of like what the hell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   that like there I've seen a billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07   clocks at thrift stores why am I having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   this reaction I walked over to it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   was like yeah oh the but this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   button that I would every morning hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   hoping that I would the alarm would stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20   bringing in that I would never have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21   go to school again speaking of sleep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:28   one that I had when I was probably at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   nearly most sleep-deprived I want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   around eighth grade it we had a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   nice feature if you're having trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   sleeping you can get sleep at night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   you know what I do before the minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   card flipped you behind a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   just a little bit of like pumped up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:50   guess it's 12:03 now Oh back with bings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1310">TS</a>]

00:22:02   word things Oh things were just things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:05   it was so simple then these were things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   clocks were clocks well I hope you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   follow up and you know get a response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   the letter oh well so anyway this is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:16   OPSEC for even talking about banking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   things but since you're walking out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   door I guess you're free to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   it yeah no it's good that so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   Washington Mutual I got my first washing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   mutual account really early on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   91 because I tried to use US Bank and US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:32   Bank had this program that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   really excited about they touted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   program called overdraft protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   where if you if you wrote a check and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41   you didn't have enough money to cover it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42   they would cover it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   it was overdraft protection that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   imagine I was like I was like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   gonna be great you guys cover it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   fantastic alright and then I made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   natural assumption that when you then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   put more money in the bank they paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   themselves and whatever little charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1376">TS</a>]

00:23:00   they had and and everybody was good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:05   in fact what overdraft protection was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   was the a paid your debt and took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:11   amount that they'd paid and put it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   separate account because they were loan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   it was alone oh that's how they get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:19   yeah and so then I would make my deposit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   of my paycheck and burp interpreter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   Merilee on my way well one day I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   into the bank and they were like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   $500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:29   you have $500 in your overdraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   protection account and it's accruing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:35   24 percent interest or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   this and some banker told this to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   I was like what are you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   because each one of these $20 checks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:44   that had that had would that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   bounced oh it's accruing toward them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   were them oh that's that's the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   kind of accrual right and they had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   it was not clear and they were like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   well if you'd read the fine print on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   thing that you signed it was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   those if you'd read the fine print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1438">TS</a>]

00:23:59   things and so at the time I was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   young I didn't fully understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:06   repercussions of everything that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   and I said I am closing my account good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:11   day sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:11   and that set in motion a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:16   I was getting phone calls in an attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:20   to collect a debt and any information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   will be used by Miranda uniforms for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:26   spor eleven more years so ye every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   every time I had a house phone mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:33   Roderick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   does it make you feel like a big man not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35   to pay your bills but anyway I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:40   Washington Mutual I loved my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41   relationship with them they were right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   there on Broadway I remember them being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   in Florida it was they were they became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:48   a big bank but they were originally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49   local bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50   I had a count number that when I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   when I would go up to the teller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   they would read my account number they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:56   say oh wow you've been here a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   this is the old style of account number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   and I always took a lot of pride in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   you know I like I like to have an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   style account number and then they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   too big for their britches they screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   up they they became a big behemoth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:14   they fell apart well they lost a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:18   bit that personal touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19   you really did they really did and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   also lost like several tens of billions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:24   of dollars yeah and then they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   absorbed by Chase Bank a faceless New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   York banking enterprise and and largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:31   it was because of my old account number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:34   my mind now like account number that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:38   predated five different iterations of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   the bank but I just hung in there I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:44   like all right I'm gonna hang in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:47   you know because I've got this account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:48   number that starts with zero five nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   or something which you know which it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:54   it's hard for me to you know when I call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:55   triple-a and they're like thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   being a member since 1997 I'm like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   goddamn right uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   you goddamn right triple-a you provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   good service even though you're even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   there customer service is about 50/50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   yeah anyway Chase Bank has started they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:14   wanted us to use their take a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   the check in a little little deposit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17   nothing yeah but in the last year they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:22   have disappeared three separate checks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:26   know where they they said your check has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:30   been deposited here's your number you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   know here's a transaction up and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:35   sent the people who whose check it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38   canceled like canceled check the back X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:43   Emily but did not deposit the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:48   that's that feels like I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51   talk out of school here that feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   a a failure at a fairly fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55   level for what one considers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   professional bank for what a bank is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   being asked for what we still actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   need a god damned bank to do that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   right and so they're like hey early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   adopter grab on this technology where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   you just take a picture with a jack why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:15   do we do it's like when you go on do on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:21   an app and they're like oh just put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   phone over your credit card and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   scan it and then it'll be in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   account and you sit there with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   phone trying to square up the credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   card like a minute and yeah you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   could have just put the number in by now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   anyway so we so it was my bookkeeper who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:39   discovered this my bookkeeper who said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:43   wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:43   there's like five thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   missing that's a lot of money John it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   a lot of money so we called them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   called their customer service operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   which was in Bangalore right next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54   where they make the torpedoes okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57   we talked to some people who they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   able to resolve it very quickly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   imagine ultimately what they said was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   that a banking relationship between a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:06   bank and a customer is a relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:10   that requires some mutual effort in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:16   sense that the bank can take your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   and give you a number for the exchange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:23   but then it's really the onus is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   customer to make sure that the money was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:30   there oh you fucked up this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   they're saying by not being sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   didn't follow up follow up make sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   cheque went through is that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39   happened yeah I didn't check the bank's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   work and that was part of our mutual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   obligations one I'll see now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   yeah the bank takes my money and get and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:49   tells me that it's fine but then I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   to make sure mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   so that precipitated well that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:57   really kind of like if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   what is it bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   actually good for I mean one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   obvious things is like okay they got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   pretty secure facility if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   put your deed in a safe-deposit box you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08   would do that if somebody sends you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   piece of paper that says it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   $5,000 they'll take care of that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   they said then you know you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:14   really be checking in on that box you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18   should pop in once in a while make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:19   that deed is still there the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   left it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:21   yeah make sure that the that we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   like break it open with a crowbar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   I thought you pushed it our relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   so believe you me my bookkeeper really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:31   had a lot to say on this matter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:35   wrote she tends to write very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   letters and then my job is to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:41   punch him up a little bit make make him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   a little bit tighter tighter anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:46   she's going to the state's attorney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:47   general but in any joke a but you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:48   manager in that case yeah but we have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:51   we're now switching our bank and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   this is another Bank I've had a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   relationship with it because this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57   the bank where I did the banking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   Roderick group right and what I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02   realized I didn't know this I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:05   because I had registered several aliases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   at that Bank because I was in a phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10   then before I started before I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   started taking by the kitchen if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:19   have the option of registering an alias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   I would I would do it out the door what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:32   I did and didn't even realize I done is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   that you can write me a check you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:39   write a check to hashtag supertrain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   I can catch I can cash it please someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   do this and I don't know why like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:49   years Wow if somebody's like oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   can write you a check just say like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   make it a hashtag supertrain I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   that Wow what is that ever seen I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:00   see that screwing up the system because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   that's got a special character in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   well it does and I'm and I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06   either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   about whether or not the hashtag is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   for fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:11   I see but to accuse about this heat now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:15   well and I and I actually I sent an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   email to my banker and I was like can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   really do this and then I realized wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   a minute I can get checks made that say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   hashtag super training oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:27   I could get a platinum business card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   that says hashtag super train on it oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   and if it was one of those new ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   where the numbers just like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   itched on the back that would look so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   badass it's super bad I'm okay for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   bounce on super train it's also also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   can get checks written to all the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   shows oh my like I don't even remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:49   doing this I must have been in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   absolute fugue state and I think at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   I did at the time I was very busy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   think even my banker offered me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   option of getting checks made with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   a stencil picture like a like a clipart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   picture of a GMC RV on them and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   I I guess I maybe forgot to give him the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:12   go-ahead on that now I'm kind of now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   partly regret it and partly am kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   fine with it but I don't have this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:22   you're moving thanks that's good it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   feels like a good step but now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   gonna feel like you need to ride that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:28   like if you do the I mean that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   pretty common thing now you take a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   of a check yeah like you feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   need with your new bank or your new old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   thank you super training bank you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   feel like you need to kind of ride that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:37   and monitor the relationship well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   interesting because when I was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:44   Washington Mutual I didn't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   money coming and going that I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   banker but I knew the tellers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:52   I'd go in there and like hey cuz I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   was like the old style of banking those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   people worked there for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   you would go to posit your paycheck all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:04   the time you would he'd go in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:07   it was two blocks from where I work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   it was like part of your day go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   bank that was part of the ritual like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:13   to the butcher shop go to the bank there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   was like this is this certain like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:16   at least weekly errands that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   compelled to attend as a kid that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   just like part of life go to the post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   office yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   right oh stop aside fire 13 cent stamps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   most of his bank hardware store or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   grocery store that was back when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33   carried a little laminated card in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   wallet where I'd written down the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36   numbers of everyone I knew in tiny tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:39   tiny little letters i smart then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   laminated it with scotch tape or with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   packing tape it was like a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   paper and I would put packing tape over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   you know this is we still had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   specter of nuclear war hanging over our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   head we had to be ready to jump into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   bunker at any time oh I'm reading a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:56   right now about the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2036">TS</a>]

00:34:00   government's like the basically the cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:03   war strategy for continuity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:07   government and I'm the hole like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:11   the plan started during the Truman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   administration like wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   if the Russians were to drop a bomb on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:18   the White House do we have a plan right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:22   for that and the answer was no why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   we never had a plan like like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   first I think that somewhere in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   is a story like the first day of Harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   Truman's presidency after FDR died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:37   they're like you're the president now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38   and he was like great I'm going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   bank and he walked out the door of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   White House and started walking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   bank where he had where he did his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   banking and and the Secret Service was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:52   like chasing after him and they shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53   down the street and suddenly all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   Washington DC is like paralyzed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   the president like snuck out a side door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:01   and went to the bank and didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:05   or didn't factor in that he couldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08   that he was already vice president how'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   he not know that but as vice president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   in 19 in the 45 but like in the 40s like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:18   just because he wasn't he wasn't FDR's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   vice president until that that final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   term right until 40 44 44 and up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:28   that point you know he'd been a senator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29   in it so wait a minute if he was elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   in 44 he came in January 45 so he'd only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   been that was April when Roosevelt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   he was he was vice president for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39   months oh my goodness and then it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   oh you're the president now I if I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   that I forgot it that's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   interesting it's really interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   I think the story is that he can't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:51   he got a message like Harry come over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   the White House we need to talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   and he said huh that's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   I've only seen the president twice since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:01   the election I wonder why I wonder what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04   they want and he walked over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   White House and Eleanor Roosevelt was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:07   waiting for him oh my goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   and she was like Harry you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:10   president now and he's like shit I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   go to the bank until the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:25   war there was no Secret Service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26   protection for the vice president they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   didn't think it was necessary who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   bother so he just walked around and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33   I think it was then they realized oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   wait a minute he's the next in line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   FDR could die any day we'd better put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   we'd better give him two agents you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   to kind of make sure he doesn't get lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   and and and Truman there's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   minders yeah and he was like get off me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   you know you get out of here kid you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   bugging me but then he realized oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   can't do that anymore Harry you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56   president but so this book yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59   about all of the secret you know grass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:03   gradually and I I didn't know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   either but there was a whole period in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   the late 40s early 50s where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   conventional wisdom in the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   seemed to be that our future as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   country was going to involve us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   basically moving our industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   underground because of the threat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   nuclear war yeah yeah so that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:27   seemingly survivable nuclear war that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   will let us continue to have milling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   machines underground for perpetuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   that's right so they so government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   agents went around and did an enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   survey of all the caves in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   States and they were like well let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   if we just requisition all these caves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   if we eminent domain all these caves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   we build like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   General Mills I guess it's real this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   real dr. Strangelove in the mineshaft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   gap was not so far off no no no they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58   were it was it was it there was a period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   there and I think it was I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   depending on who you were talking to if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   the period was either long or short I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   think a lot of people in government who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   had actually seen the pictures of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   Oshima were like oh wait a minute this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   is a lot worse than we thought there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   nobody there's no surviving this yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   but they didn't really they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   disseminate that to everybody and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   there were a lot of people running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   around like well you know not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:28   building bomb shelters but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   really envisioning that the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   country was going to move out from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36   cities get out of the center so that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   weren't as easy a target and sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:42   know like disseminate our business and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   and and manufacturing sort of out into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:50   the out into the woods the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   basically becomes a series of Horcruxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   so we distribute everything and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:59   seen that that movie where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00   sunglasses when they're watching Bikini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   Atoll we should be pretty good to go we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:03   dig a hole be hard it's three into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:07   Oklahoma and everything will be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   yeah there were actually real estate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   advertisements at the time for houses in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   upstate New York and southern Virginia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   that we're like you know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   beautiful farm it's well outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   blast zone oh my god was this also run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   so I mean I there's gosh there's been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   much presidential stuff floating around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   about just boy laws work like when did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:29   it is it officially like a law a rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:32   policy for example that the President [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   and Vice President don't fly together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   isn't that a thing so this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39   circus it's that era is this was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   era okay yeah that that that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:44   realized that the this is when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   developed those elaborate hierarchies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   where you know I mean it's on it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53   it had always been that the that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   Speaker of the House ascended to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   presidency if you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   President and the Vice President were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   finally codified like when interior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   comes into the picture yeah and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04   went all the way down to eventually what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:07   happened was if the Secretary of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   Interior dies there the guy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:13   running the Tennessee Valley Authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   is next in line to become Secretary of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:19   the Interior in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   administration post apocalypse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:25   somewhere down the line there there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   like there's a list of succession that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:32   like 60 people deep like that's insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   like the mayor of Skokie Illinois [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   becomes the President of the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   States at some point if the 75 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:44   ahead of him in line are at we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   vaporized and every single cabinet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:51   member also has this train of potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   successors and in situations where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:57   US gets on a real war footing all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   those people know they're on that list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   and they get some like like like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:07   telegram activating this like DEFCON 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:13   thing that it actually has a name like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   that like like con-com when when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:19   set of conditions occurs this plan goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:24   into action the word goes out we're now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   in space White House mode right and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:29   of those people the Tennessee Valley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   Authority person or the person that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   in charge of the Grand Coulee Dam like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37   federal agent or someone else empowered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   to do this shows up and becomes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   person's bodyguard like we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45   protect you sir like don't you can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   to the bank today because you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   forty second in line to be the Secretary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:54   of Housing in human welfare or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:58   yeah so and so as the 50s wore on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:04   government became less and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   convinced and then less and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   interested in this project of putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:11   the American all of the American people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   underground and all of our industry they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   were like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   this isn't gonna work this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   something very scalable no like Carl's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   brought the bad Canyon's we could put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23   like it off you pretty I think it cave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   is pretty moist John it's how its moist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   it's disgusting it's dark it's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31   not much parking no and where the where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:34   the potties where would you go where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   would you go out to smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36   I'll think about that at the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39   would have been a big issue not a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   issue what do you do you gonna go up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42   mine chef's you're gonna ride an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   elevator outside to have a but every 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   minutes I'll tell you what I'll go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   your mind chef's fifties but so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:50   government did not abandon this project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   when it came to themselves so they so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:57   basically they as far as the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   people were concerned the government was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00   like let's do that civil defense thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   where we show them a lot of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:03   cartoons kids ducking and covering and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:13   hey that was the extent of the plant oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:16   and they built the interstate highways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:17   guess in the internet and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   eventually I mean is that in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:22   but isn't that at least the lore that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:25   always heard was that what we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26   consider the Internet today started as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27   DARPA project to be able to maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   continuity of communication and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   structure after some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   devastating event yes right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:38   whole problem that so I'm I'm not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   deep into the book but that all came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   after they realized oh wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   how are we going to like how are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49   going to stay in contact with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   Department of the Navy if everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   blows up how are we going to stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54   contact with General Mills how are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   gonna get our Captain Crunch and little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   by little you know they he got a you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   a field promotion he's a colonel now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   Colonel crunch he'd be the captain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:16   like a colonel right he'd be Admiral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   crime this is confusing so you think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   hot guy hot guys a captain with two bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21   in the army but I believe a captain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:24   the Navy is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   colonel or yeah full yeah full fuller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:30   colonel that's right okay so come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   he'd become a would he become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34   brigadier general he would become a rear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:38   end he'd become rear admiral car things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:49   but so they continued to build secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:53   installations for government people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   survive the war caves and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59   underground bunkers not just the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   from war games but like all over every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   single state has an underground bunker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   for the government people to escape to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:10   and all these elaborate plans and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   have they have secret laminated cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   that have not only the numbers of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   their friends written on them but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   dr. Strangelove were written and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   directed by Wes Anderson yeah right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   get walkie-talkies you get laminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   cards you get cool uniforms oh I bet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:29   bet those what what is it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   Terminator movie the third one where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   they find that that bunker in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   mountain right isn't that the third time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   I don't acknowledge that movie but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   sounds like it could be right so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   they go in and and the whole thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   decorated super mid-century multum at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:50   bachelor pad right right it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:54   like it's like the Playboy Mansion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55   except like hardened against the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   has a real grotto and does that come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2758">TS</a>]

00:45:59   it okay no but it has a lot of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   hanging moss that came from the sweat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   and cigarette smoke of all those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   in there coughing there'd be in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:10   cave that wet air those pall malls farts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:21   have you been recently to a hotel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:25   has not been upgraded from from times of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:30   your well I feel like I got I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:34   told I told you my sad tale of woe where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:35   I got stuck in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   where was I anyway I recently got stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   somewhere my flight got canceled had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   stay overnight and you know I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42   Marriott man they put me up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   Marriott and I think it was that rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:47   thing where I was in this Marriott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:48   probably right at the end of the cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   where the furniture is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   oversized and like brown wood and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55   it hadn't gotten that light look that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   you see in most hotels today right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   yeah yeah I mean it always strikes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   how much especially given how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   basically old like disused SROs get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   turned into hotels now like it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   what gets attention and what gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   upgraded but yeah most of them seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   they've gotten an upgrade in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12   10-15 years but do you still get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   somewhere there's like also the one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   were at in San Francisco where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   bits of carpeting that had been replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   because probably blood total it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21   was a total SRO a classic a classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:24   hotel that probably until recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27   sure-sure down to a shared bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   right well the rooms had bathrooms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:33   and looked like bathrooms that had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   there a long time but but almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38   certainly almost certainly 25 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:42   if you walk down the halls of those of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   those floors it would smell like fried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   fish because people had that is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:58   very friendly thing to fry in an SRO oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01   my goodness oh my gosh she's gonna cling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   to every fiber and it's not gonna it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   gonna be like close to like a bait fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   quality probably like a lightly saute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   column and I've looked in it enough in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:20   enough doorways at a guy in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   undershirt you know when I was 22 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:33   whatever I didn't realize that the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36   was gonna change yeah cuz this looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   like what did it what I what it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41   like in the 50s you know until then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   until the 90s there were still in babies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:49   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   but there were always like old guys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   undershirts fryin fish on hot plates in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   single that would always be true I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2935">TS</a>]

00:49:00   didn't realize that all those hotels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   would become a so tells and I just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:06   at my phone trying to find where were we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   where were we when I met the guy from TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:12   and we hung out and you got the nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   room and I got the not nice room was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:15   that was that Portland guy from TV TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:19   with the jaw I like James oh sure James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:24   Urbaniak I like that guy yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   the that was a classic hotel comedy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:51   don't you be putting the bones down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   sink that was the hotel room where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   opened the door one time in there just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59   mystery well there was a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   walkie-talkie lying in the center of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   room I was like the beginning of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   adventure and mine looked like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   know like an updated version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:09   prisoner it was it was like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   very very tidy cell yeah yeah put a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:16   in a hotel room John well because Lingus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:21   is that what it is like there's no place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   there's nope there's no drawers you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:24   only hang your clothes basically you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   throw pillows and kind of Lingus that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   the whole thing right you go in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   you're gonna wash your hands you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   well sure you might want to brush your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:32   teeth but like is it because young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:33   people have so much sex they just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   to get on the bed is that what it is cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:36   the bed is real central to the room no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   think you come in you put yeah here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   what you do you take your your dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   abag you set it down you pull out your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   can of mustache wax cotton can of hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:50   wax you can of eyebrow wax your hogs fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53   hair tonic you you untie your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3056">TS</a>]

00:51:01   the next thing it's gonna be oh sheikh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   is good artisanal handcrafted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:09   bindle yeah you let your hair deal it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:13   gonna be your source neckerchief tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16   around an artisanal responsibly sourced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:20   stick that's right that's right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   yeah like a like like a renewable stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:26   renewables it's gonna be like that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   hardwood flooring site on NPR it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   be all recovered hobo sticks that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   right holy sticks that they found in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:33   pile at the big hobo mass it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36   reduce like you don't you don't make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   didgeridoo you find a didgeridoo okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:42   you go in the room you're ready for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   kind of Lingus you take out your bindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   you got so here was the philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47   initially you remember initially you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:50   first heard of boutique hotels well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:55   artisanal anything oh okay right we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:58   going all the way back workers set the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3118">TS</a>]

00:51:59   set the Wayback Machine to all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   back to the first time you heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04   word artisanal bread okay right all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:09   right now hearing about we actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11   a loaf in our refrigerator right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   that says artisan bread then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   bread if memory serves is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   thing where I heard somebody use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   where they didn't mean like you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   artisan making wagon wheels you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   Cooper you're not a Fletcher right an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24   artisan bread right okay I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:28   first time I don't remember the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29   time I heard the word art artisanal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:33   I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:33   well the first time I'm saying was from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   you but I think I think I've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   given that one some legs you sure did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   yeah I think the first time you said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   I had I had about 30 seconds of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47   very slow thinking where I was like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:59   but but so I dated I dated a gal in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:03   90s who was part of that whole I've told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   you about her who was part of that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:06   take find jeans in Montana for 50 cents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:11   bring them to Seattle fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   like old jeans for 50 cents at thrift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:17   stores in Montana bring them to Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18   sell them to a broker from Japan for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:22   $1,500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   he will take those jeans to Japan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:27   sell them for $15,000 really early on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:32   this case pants minor she was and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:36   a guy who was a literal pants prospector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   and he made a fortune he bought himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41   a house just driving around Montana in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44   that weird era where all these old guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:48   were dying their old buckle back Levi's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   were going to the goodwill and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:55   could drive around and just go to good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   wills and just flip through stuff and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   like oh check out these jeans they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   worth $20,000 and I don't want to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:05   the goof here how far off is that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   how much were they were they charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   for jeans in Japan like over $1,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   sometimes up to five figures and you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:17   some really authentic 60s made in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   USA a Jefferson Airplane era Levi's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23   the right condition with the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   what's called Hin gauging J jeans okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   he gave you're gonna you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   able to move that up to five figures I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   mean right now if you find a pair of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:36   sixties biggie Levi's you can sell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:41   online for good good money but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:49   there was a bubble in that market just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   like there was a time when when a 1959 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:57   Les Paul I mean there were 59 Les Paul's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   that were selling for a million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   that's not true oh I see bubble yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   said you know what yes yes yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   they're like a tulip type situation yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   so there was a while where it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:11   so yeah right here I have a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:15   vintage 50's biggie Levi's for $5,500 Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:19   jiminy on Etsy we've got let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:26   now those are from nineteen so this pair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   of jeans from 1987 is $250 like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:33   world still exists there's a nice pair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:37   of vintage men's Levi's xx great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   acid-wash jeans mmm they're after $4.99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   so you can just pick those right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43   acid-wash jeans can you believe that 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   36 that's a slender to kind of taller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   fella but there were these but but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:52   even older Levi's the ones that had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   a buckle in the back okay were were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3354">TS</a>]

00:56:00   super prized among the the like fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03   cognoscenti in Tokyo and and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:09   think you can still get that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:10   money but this friend of mine who did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   this work who drove around Montana he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   said I have my retirement and my like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:19   escape bag mice might keep a small bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:22   packed yeah under my bed I have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   pairs of jeans in this bag that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:29   need to I can live off of he sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:33   wouldn't trust it to a bank no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   under his bed you know there's a famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   story of a woman that was out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   outing the sort of outside of Sacramento [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:42   and she was just out in the gold country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45   they call it gold country and she found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   a mineshaft that was just sort of open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   and she walked in just touristing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:54   know just like pooping around boopity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   boop and kind of walked into the mine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:59   little bit maybe further than you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   do if you weren't bold and turned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:05   corner and there was a table and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   was a pair of jeans on them that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   like a old patch two pair of jeans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   she pulled him out of there and was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   oh look at these you know look at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   old great jeans and they'd been patched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   and whatnot and she brought him out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   they're the oldest pair of Levi's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:23   oldest surviving pair the oldest pair no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:26   one at Levi's had ever seen them and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29   brought them in and they became like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   these talismanic pants that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:36   you know that were just the earth right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:41   right but so that was my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:44   experience of understanding that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:47   was value in something that wasn't an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50   antique but was you know like a soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:55   good and it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:59   clear where the value actually was other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02   than scarcity I guess scarcity also it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   interesting how I mean guess this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06   obvious but it also sets a new bar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   some ways where you think about like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   wow it's almost like breaking a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13   right like where somebody breaks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14   record and breaks it by like more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   5% you're like wow we're capable of much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   more than we realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   and so that might kind of reset the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   market a little bit cuz now people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:23   go oh are there more of these out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:24   should we should we go a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   deeper into the cave and see if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   some special pants that's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   and I remember sitting at her because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:30   would sit and watch her do her job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   people would come in with a big stack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:33   Levi's did you get bring it I for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   oh you get a really good eye and she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   this she already had that that attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   you know she had really really dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   brown hair and she dyed it black she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   dyed it black for no reason like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   already as brown as brown could be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   she was like black dark dark red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3530">TS</a>]

00:59:00   lipstick and she would sit and smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   cigarettes behind the counter where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03   worked and people would say I got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   these Levi's and she would she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   flip through them with such disdain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   we're so attracted this woman I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   met the person on the other side would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:15   just feel so bad for themselves for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   bringing this stack of jeans down to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   and thanks but no thanks for these but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:29   will take this pair and you're just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32   wow she was one of those people that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   the ability to go to a thrift store buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   a puffy coat and make it seem like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   was from the future mm-hmm it's like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   did you make that seem like it's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   the future that's like a mom coat from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44   1981 and she's just like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   man that's a gift yeah why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   talking to me and it's like I'm your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   boyfriend yeah yeah I'm an idol to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   to you but so I think the premise as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:58   moved into the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   moved into the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   like well these boots admittedly these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   boots are $500 the premise was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:07   you'd only need one pair right mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   right it was it was that yes things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   are made in America things that are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   by hand are gonna be a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   expensive this is how you get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   artisan thing you're here this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20   you get okay so it's gonna be a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   expensive but where you're already used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25   to paying thirty five hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   for a pair of baggy jeans if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   anybody you're just making that mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:32   transition you're not gonna have seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34   pairs of these boots you're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37   one mm-hm and then just sit with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40   for a second you're just gonna need one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   just one just one it's gonna be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:46   expensive but it's all you need is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:50   one it's like finding the one true beard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   go yeah yeah that's all you need you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:56   gonna have one can of mustache wax not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   four and that idea like I remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:05   kind of reverberating it actually it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:10   hit the top pair of Levi's in the stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   of 40 pairs of Levi's I hadn't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   reverberating all the way down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   bottom and I was like wait I only need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   one pair of Levi's I think that's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   I think I need all these maybe I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:23   need all these Levi's right but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   definitely need more than one pair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   then that was all of a sudden there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   denim that was made at the that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   white cone mill in being oz back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:34   Tennessee or whatever in roz but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:36   Carolina it's like oh man these jeans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39   are five hundred dollars but you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   need one yeah jeans are tough now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:45   it's a top hat one one really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:55   artisanal time pad yeah don't wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:58   from a small batch Tennessee top but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:02   think when they check into those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   fisherman's hotel it's all coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:08   together now you know what it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   embarrassing don't don't embarrass me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   don't embarrass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   self by giving me the fucking drawers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   what am I gonna put in drawers I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   one pair of pants on the top hat yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:18   you open the door to your room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   there's no TV there's a walkie-talkie on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   the floor there's two hangers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   there's a little Larry source neatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26   sourced hangers locally-sourced hangers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   that are carved out of out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:29   prehistoric whale bone uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   you hang your one jacket that cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   $1,200 on it you put your artisanal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   boots on the floor and then you lay back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   and read your artisanal book you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   anyone you don't take a few jacket your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45   jacket is one of those like bandleader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46   ones right there's there's no jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   required you're walking around you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3768">TS</a>]

01:03:00   one pair of pants you get your band well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:01   what do you call that kind of jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:02   like an atom and jacket there's a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   for that yeah I would say it was the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:07   was the what is the Buddhists ik guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   what is he called he's the covered this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   damn ant vest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:15   what's the address best called it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   collar jacket you got the knot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:21   bandleader it's good it's a sergeant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   major the something major the drum major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:27   yeah but there's a name for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:30   particular vest you talked about the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:33   with the multiple but the Frog ings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:36   stuff on it and they got the Frog in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   waistcoat they call it a waistcoat in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   England to make it even more confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:41   how they do oh man there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44   vintage out of man stuff look at all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   this you can get it Bonaparte hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:51   we call him Bonaparte cause we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   mad at me we're against him we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   against him not for it I'm the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3836">TS</a>]

01:04:00   needs to adjust I need to get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:01   this mindset I have I'm gonna bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   seven pairs of me undies for the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   days that I'm there I need one pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   underwear I need one grand master jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   with frogging x' a 31 top hat and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:11   though I don't have a mustache I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12   probably bring some some mustache soils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15   you can use it on your eyebrows okay if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   you get one of those pairs of Mac weld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   and silver Underpants yeah those aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   cheap but you can wear those day in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:22   day out because the silver will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   anesthetize the buck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   the antimicrobial silver add the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   microbial yeah our thanks to hellofresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30   for supporting this episode of Roderick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   on the line hello fresh hello yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35   Froggy's I I was in the market for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:39   kind of thing not very long ago as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   compiling my King Neptune outfit yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:44   and I contacted a man in Canada because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:48   what I really wanted was a jacket from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   the Royal Canadian Mounted Police but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:55   what I learned is that the Royal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   Canadian Mounted Police iconic red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   jacket is not only copyrighted by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:04   Royal Canadian Mounted Police but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:07   never owned your Mountie jacket when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:11   you're a Mountie you are only in Lent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:14   you're just inhabiting it for the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   the role for the that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:17   because duty the jacket is is sacrosanct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:23   and just like the way you refer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:27   Queen you've got the Queen but the Queen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   is different from the throne right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:32   you got a pope but that's different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:33   the Vatican or the papacy there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:36   thing that's bigger than you that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37   just inhabitant in that case it's a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:38   coat yeah you got the Pope over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   yeah it's like getting a soup right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:44   jacket the the emblem of the Mounties is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:48   is a thing that when you're done being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:52   Mountie you give the jacket back so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:56   don't see Canadian punk rockers out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:59   rolling around in old Mountie jackets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   with the big energy it's not like West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   Germany green jackets that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   everywhere no it's not and so I am I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:09   up in the Canadian internet I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:13   if you've ever been to it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:16   dossier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:16   yeah and it's um but you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   it's almost like a fully functioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21   internet up that's a lot friendlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   but I'm up there and I'm like look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   want one of these and they're like sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   hmm and then I found a guy outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:31   Ottawa who as far as I could tell lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:35   in a shipping container okay and he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   very friendly man he actually wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   talk on the phone quite a bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   because he was helping me I indulged him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:46   in this and I spoke to him on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:49   for a long time and heard all about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:52   many adventures driving a truck in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   Yukon Territories and living in a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:57   house with a lot of friends that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   doesn't have anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:00   but one thing he does have is a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   collection of jackets which were used in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:06   the Royal Canadian Mounted Police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:09   Academy oh pretty good and they are in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:15   lot of ways fancier than Royal Canadian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:20   Mounted Police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:21   normal tunics they're called tunics by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:24   the way okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:25   and because they're like cadet jackets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:29   right it's not like you're the rank and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31   file these are the these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:32   hotshots so they've got a lot of gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:33   braids on them and I don't even know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36   the if that Academy still makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39   wear these jackets but somehow the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:42   that they were cadet jackets meant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   there was a loophole and he had some and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:48   I wanted that also you're you're not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:53   far as I know Canadian so are you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:54   you on or bound are you stealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   Canadian valour by wearing that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   it seems to me if you're from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4078">TS</a>]

01:07:59   different country you should be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:00   get the real deal well but this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   thing they're not letting him go they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:05   not letting him go the scarcity begins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   scarcity yeah you serve at the pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   of the President [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   Yeah right like gifts for the Queen who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   works for the crown it's all that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   all that stuff all that stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   government stuff that my dad used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:17   have around when he was working for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   federal government that would say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   when you're done using this pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:22   return it to the federal government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   anyway so this guy very unusual person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29   and and these jackets had an unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:32   sizing system and he and I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33   negotiating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   what what jackets he had and he I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:38   listen just send me the biggest tallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:41   one you have I know there are big tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   Mounties but I'm not willing to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:46   chances so send me the biggest tallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:49   one you have well the jacket arrived and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   it was neither big nor tall but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:55   the biggest one he had and so what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   have Merlin is a mount is a of 60s Royal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:01   Canadian Mounted Police Academy jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:04   how long is it well I think it would fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:08   you perfectly oh my god but I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:11   to give you things that you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   right because because there are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:16   these people trying to give you things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:17   you don't want I have a whole closet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   full of things I'm supposed to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   at some point but here is this thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23   you wore this around you would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   adamant fancy there's no one in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:28   that has one it's called a hazhar a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   huzzah search for hu s SAR hu s s AR but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:37   isn't aren't I gonna get a bunch of Hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:38   Topic stuff here no I think you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:46   safe I think it's hard to knowing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   know your Google is not my Google your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:49   grandma is not my grandma you know so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:52   try try try googling it and then you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:53   some mannequin in a hussar Oh hussar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:57   Azhar it looks like for fifteen hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   dollars you can get this one Napoleonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02   Wars Dolman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:03   it's a French hussar Dolman more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:06   specific Sha Tsui I just literally this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:10   week really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:11   Dolman is the kind of sleeve I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12   about on Project Runway Dolman is a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:15   of sleeve you can you learn about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:16   Project Runway I'll be kind of sleep you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18   learned about on Project Runway hussar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   hazhar as how did you learn about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23   why oh because they were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   making a Dolman sleeve and they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:26   they're kind of tired of seeing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:27   look and they want to see them doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   something else it's not in black what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   a Dolman sleeve I think it's where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   part of the eyes I don't know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   but I'm not gonna look it up because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   don't screw up my search history I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:38   his are in there I don't wanna mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:39   myself up I think it's when you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:40   front to back and the sleeve is implied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   by the general shape of the garment it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   not like a separate sleeve that you sew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   on whyphy and now I'll find out if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:48   what is it called Dolman Dolman now why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:52   did I not know but was the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   the problem is that there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   steampunk overlap here hmm and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4256">TS</a>]

01:11:00   steampunk overlap anytime I'm walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:04   through the world and I walk into any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   kind of Venn diagram that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:10   overlapping a steampunk Venn diagram I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   tread very carefully it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:15   like Juggalos where like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   certain amount where you have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18   kind of awe and respect but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   you don't necessarily want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   Juggalo you've got to be careful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   you just state Juggalo adjacent yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   right and and with steampunk like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:28   leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:29   I like brass sure I like gold braids you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31   would love to have a leather typewriter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   I like little tinker II things yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36   I was at one of those I was walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   through one of those little towns where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   the and it's a here in Washington it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   little town on the ocean that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:46   store that's basically selling old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   fishing net there's a guy was literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   a corncob pipe that's meant selling old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   net but then but then the town is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:57   trying to decide whether it wants to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:58   fancy or not or whether it even can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   fancy okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:01   and so there's a little store where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   there's a guy selling cigars but he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   sells like nada que Lea hmm and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:10   put that up in your seaman's hotel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   can't resist it right so I'm in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14   I'm looking at old barometers and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17   like how many barometers can a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:18   have in their house but you get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   really nice giant ass compasses you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   big compasses right nautical nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   nautical compasses really polished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28   really you know like I said like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   a sextant I don't even know why oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   could use a sextant I bet you could pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   that up in a weekend but this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   reckoning distances like by Sunday what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40   I don't want though is to have a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:43   to have more stuff in my house that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:44   steampunk adjacent because I already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   have a lot oh yeah yeah yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:49   when you put it all into one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51   yeah tells a different story than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:52   want to tell so I find this walk give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:55   deep sea diving suit no okay have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   ever wondered what it's no real a suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   no no no no no really it's too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   well too big okay do I want one yes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:04   am I too claustrophobic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   yes oh I just meant to hang there no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:09   if it was there I would want to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:10   on put it on a panic attack put it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:22   you might be like I gotta put that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:26   act of steampunk self-immolation I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:30   12 different Stetson fedoras and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:34   never wear one outside but I wear them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   around the house all day now and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:42   see another I'll see a fedora like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   across the room and I'm wearing one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46   I'll walk over and I'll take the one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:47   have on off and all the place oh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   other one too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52   you gotta have two threes too two is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:55   one is none you know like I want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   shoulder holster yeah what I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4437">TS</a>]

01:14:02   wearing it wearing my pistol under my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   blender my Levi's best in case you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   pistol with a punk but I realized I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:09   think probably back then that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:11   then this entire show the entire history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:14   of Roderick on the line all points to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   one thing which is that I should never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   ever ever carry a concealed weapon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:22   interesting because I'm an eight I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:25   natural-born Sheriff hmm and all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:28   dummies out there carrying you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31   carrying pistols are all and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:34   lot of are not even officers they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   at all they think of themselves as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   sheriff's too but the problem is I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   I'm a sheriff and if I was carrying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   gun around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:42   I would be sheriffing all the fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   time and that is not what the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   needs there is not a single parking lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:47   that you attend to that would go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:50   sheriff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:50   I would sheriff I would I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:53   sheriffing everybody I'd be like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:54   those Australian Shepherds who's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   every time he tries to run kids talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59   to the air you grab their pants with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:00   your teeth you pull him back in New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01   that's you yeah that's you with a pistol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:02   in the parking lot yeah that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   I mean froggy went a-courtin and he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:05   ride but I do want a shoulder holster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:08   and I'm not sure what to put in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09   obviously oh no I'm not gonna be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:13   phone I think what it should be as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   a collapsible brass telescope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:18   oh no you to travel sextant you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:23   need one but I don't wanna know and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:31   here I am I'm looking at these huh Sarge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   jackets huh huh and I'm like oh I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   like that oh that's fun that's fun stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:50   really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENAWAKQ/4550">TS</a>]