Top Four 31: Nightmare Vacations
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you know it's the summertime it is time
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for vacations for a lot of people
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especially August especially August yeah
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August is like I think the top vacation
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month according to the zero research I
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did before the show about that but but
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you know there are some vacations a
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vacation I feel like is a relative term
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it's a thing that you can do but the
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things that people choose to do whether
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they consider that a vacation or not it
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seems to vary person by person you know
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but even that sometimes you go on
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vacation and when you get home you feel
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like you need a vacation from your
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vacation yeah exactly like some
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vacations are just exhausting and some
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of them are really actually not very fun
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or not very relaxing you know that very
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naked lady song never is enough yeah
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never wanna do that stuff well hearing a
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lot of our friends and family and loved
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ones talk about their vacations just
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sometimes make us say yeah I'm never
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doing that is plenty of doing that for
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me and I'm super happy that they enjoyed
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their vacations as you should but we
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would like to make a list of our top for
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vacation nightmares or nightmare
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or nightmare vacations and some of mine
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too are things that I actually have done
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yeah I mean fact I've done most of these
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and I don't want to do them again
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yeah because you know it's for me like a
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vacation for me is I mean something like
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everybody wants different things out of
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their vacation some people want to do as
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little as possible some people want to
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travel as much as possible and and
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sightsee when they travel and and or do
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things like have big adventures when
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they travel stuff like that and for and
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you know for other people the the ideal
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vacation is just like just staying in
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their house doing as little as possible
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doing nothing some people want to want
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to or need to bring their kids or their
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pets and some people that's the last
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thing they want to do and and so there's
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a huge variety of like what people
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actually want out of a vacation so
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anyway so this is this is not to insult
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vacation preferences this is gonna be
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just like the things that we really are
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not interested in doing do you think at
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this point people are really insulted by
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our opinions I guess we probably lost
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them a long time ago yeah I think the
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people that get easily insulted have has
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switched us off probably so anyway so
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for those of you who are left and not
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yet insulted prepare to be insulted so
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here you go we're gonna we're gonna
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trash everything you like to do oh sorry
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not sorry we don't want to do it it's
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our idea of vacation it's not ideal
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vacations in general because we did not
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take all vacations like we ate all the
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ice cream and just tried them out and
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report it back to you this one why the
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complete rejection oh we should have
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done that that would have been the real
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way to do it so sorry everybody we have
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we made a huge mistake we should have
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just taken all of the money that we make
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from the podcasts and run around and
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take in all of these vacations yeah just
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take it just take a bunch of vacations
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for a whole year and then review the
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vacations that we take that could be our
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next podcast actually mark joint if on
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vacation complain about everywhere we
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are we would be the worst travel show
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yeah we'd be like this is boring or
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weird or I'm tired or I'm hot Oh God
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that would be everything everywhere we
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went we would be so dull anyway let's
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talk about where we would be dull all
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right my number four are you ready I am
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ready let's do it alright so in the
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spirit of top four okay it's a little
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convoluted here but I have anything
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skiing cold weather or an ice hotel what
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is an ice hotel an ice hotel is exactly
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what it sounds like it's an entire Hotel
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made of ice that exists like not in
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movies like I know like you can go stay
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in nice hotels that sounds like the
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worst that does some pretty bad like you
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literally sleep on ice bed in like skins
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of animals that sounds that way it's
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p.m. people pay to do this yes they
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totally pay you this and go to the ice
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bar and like say in the Ice Hotel benya
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Lane I I like like a chilled environment
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like I I appreciate you know there's
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the signs freezer-burn like you all will
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be getting freezer burn if you lie on
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the floor for too long you get like like
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frostbite the quints yeah I don't know
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okay so I seen it like on Travel
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Channel's and stuff and like Rando
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internet things like 12 vacations you
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would don't believe but so easy man I'm
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like nope I never I never want to do
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that that's something I never cared to
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see yeah yeah that sounds awful I mean
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like I just see even like getting there
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to see it sounds cold like it sounds
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like too much to even see it I think
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seeing it on the TV is just plenty cuz
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you probably can't have a nice hotel in
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any remotely warm climate so you have to
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have to already be in a very cold
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location they might have one in Dubai
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well yeah that's everything you do by
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anyway I also made my list I put those
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with skiing because I used to really
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like skiing and I did it with my dad but
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now I feel like I'm too old and scared
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to do skiing well like I feel like I
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just might wet my legs start wobbling
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yeah as soon as I think about skiing
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it's exhausting yeah like I did I did go
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as part of a bachelor party for my best
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friend for you know for his before his
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wedding right that's one of them yeah
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yeah yeah and and and we went skiing a
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couple years ago and it was it was in a
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great location near Seattle and I hadn't
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been skiing since high school and so I
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hadn't skied for whatever it was like 10
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15 years and dangerous it sounds
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terrifying and the good thing is I
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remembered how to do it like I did I
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hadn't lost the skill but as soon like I
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went down the slopes a few times and I
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was like oh my god like my knees are
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starting to get tired and I'm starting
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to get less stable now and I know like
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when I was 17 doing this I was probably
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still mostly made of rubber so that
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wouldn't really matter if I hurt myself
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but when I was like 33 or 34 doing it
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like I would have seriously injured
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myself and had a much worse longer
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recovery time if I would have you know
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fallen in some weird way I messed up my
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legs but the thing about skiing really
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is that it needs to have the absolute
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conditions for it to be fun at all and
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you need to be in excellent physical
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condition and practiced at skiing and
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even if you're hanging out at the lodge
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it's really not that fun because on like
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peak ski seasons it's so crowded and
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it's noisier than it needs to be and you
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have to wear like weird fitting clothes
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and wear those stoppi boots and like hey
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there's just there's so many things
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there's just so many things and no it's
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just no so anyway I just don't want to
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pack for winter vacations it just sounds
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so bulky and packing for that it's just
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exhausting I don't want to be on
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anything treacherous outside like an
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Everest vacation where there's there's
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terrifying bridges or ledges or anywhere
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that I might die like I don't want to
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encounter any of that winter cold
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vacation tastic stuff so yeah I mean no
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thanks I think part of the reasons like
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we live in New York where we have
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winters with snow and everything it's
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like and even though it's not the same
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as like you know going up a huge
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mountain with like that kind of snow
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it's we still have enough snow in enough
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winters that the last thing we want to
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do is pay and spend vacation time to go
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somewhere to experience more winter yeah
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cuz I couldn't I couldn't even think of
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a season that I would want to go to
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winter so in winter I don't want to go
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to more winter when it's finally spring
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I'm like thank God spring like you don't
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want to go to winter when it's
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summertime it's summertime why waste the
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summer going back to winter and then
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when the fall it's almost winter so why
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that's yeah you're right that's totally
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amazing yeah it's like IIIi agree like
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there-there is no time of year where I
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we're like experiencing more winter like
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things would be considered refreshing
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like even now in August when we had were
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having some really hot days and hanging
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out in uh near conditioned places a lot
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of the time and and so we really should
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like if there was a time that we would
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want to do that it's probably now and we
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don't want it like it sounds uh so
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think about putting on more clothes and
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when you go to the winter you have to
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put more clothes on so like I don't want
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to think about bundling up when I'm at
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my hot like feeling the hottest in the
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weather anyway so yeah
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number four never is enough winter so my
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number four I kind of went in the
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opposite direction and this is this is
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one of my only ones that's that's a very
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specific place and that is Phoenix
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Arizona and but with all due apologies
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to the great residents of Phoenix I'm
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not talking about you here this is very
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specific yes I'm very curious so the
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reason was so I I have been to Phoenix
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Arizona for a number of different things
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over the years most most notably my
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grandparents used to live there but now
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they don't so I don't really have any
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reason to go back there for any kind of
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like strong family connection or
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it would just be if I went back there it
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would be for some other random reason
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and Phoenix Arizona is a place where for
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most of the year it is oppressively hot
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you know so it is so hot and so sunny
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and so dry because they decided to build
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a city in the middle of a desert for
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some reason that they're you you
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basically can't go outside like it one
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of the reasons why I get kind of
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depressed and unhappy in winter is
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because I feel like the outside
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conditions are so hostile that I can't
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really go outside and enjoy myself I
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can't go like take a big dog lock or or
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just like walk around outside or do
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things outside because it's so
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impressively cold and crappy in the
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winter Phoenix has that problem in the
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opposite direction on the heat side like
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Phoenix is so hot that you basically end
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up spending all of your time indoors in
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air conditioning anyway so you can't
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you're still not going outside and able
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to really do much outside except for
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during you know very limited times of
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the year and limited times of the day
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but that could be like it that could be
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a lot of different hot places why
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Phoenix specifically because Phoenix
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does not offer me any reason why I want
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to endure that heat so like one of the
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reasons like so reason is they didn't
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give me a good enough reason yeah
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basically so like like what I want
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travel somewhere one of the things I'd
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like to do as you know one of the things
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that that we enjoy doing is getting a
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hotel room that has a decent view the
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kind of view I usually like to get is
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usually of water or at least a very high
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up view and one thing Phoenix does not
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have a lot of is high up hotel buildings
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and water so there's not a lot there to
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attract me there now that my family
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doesn't live there anymore it's also
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full of not only the the very hostile
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natural environment of Phoenix but also
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the wildlife in the in the Phoenix area
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is scary as hell like they have this the
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like you know scorpions and coyotes and
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super coyotes and mega coyotes and ultra
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coyotes everything that will try to eat
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you and kill you not to mention the gun
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people like there's I find the people in
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Phoenix to be not you do you listener
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and yeah you're gonna piss off people
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well you dear listener in Phoenix we're
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not this are not these people you're
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probably not the majority unfortunately
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the other people in Phoenix who are not
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listening to the show I find generally
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off-putting too scary and and there you
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know there's a big like you know
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conservative gun racists you know
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undertone of a lot of people there it's
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interesting very specific here I know
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something happened to you in Phoenix
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that you need to talk about no it's just
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to read to have a moment to get the
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culture there I feel like it is not a
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good fit for me either in addition to
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the climate being a very bad fit for me
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and then finally is the law of hot
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places the law of hot places is
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basically my rule that says that places
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with really hot letter tend to have
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really crappy coffee and Phoenix it's
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true Phoenix is the place where I came
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up with the law of hot places it is the
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place that inspired it's the birthplace
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of the law of hot places they should
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have a plaque actually at the Phoenix
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yeah the airport the same Sky Harbor
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because there's no water anywhere nearby
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everyone wants to be port city it's fine
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I respect the the level of denial
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they've achieved in that Airport with
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all like the nautical themes it's bad
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anyway so yeah like the law of hot
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places basically is you know places with
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very hot weather tend not to have a lot
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people seeking out hot coffee and you
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know most of the caffeine serving these
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places tends to be iced coffee or you
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know other like variations like
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Frappuccino kind of blended drink stuff
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like that and so ice coffee you're
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loading up with milk and sugar anyway
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like even people like me who enjoy black
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you met most of us I would have eight I
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would wager will add some kind of
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sweetener or milk or something to iced
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coffee so the hot places tend not to
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have very good coffee because nobody
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ever really wants it like that there
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aren't a lot of like hot black coffee
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drinkers there and and those of us who
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are there have basically had to deal
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with whatever options we have and
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there's not very many of them so there's
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not really any incentive for them to
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have a great coffee and they usually
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don't so combine the relatively poor
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coffee options along with the miserably
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hot weather the the oppressive outdoor
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conditions the ultra maker coyotes and
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the gun people and I just don't want to
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go there anymore well there we go
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wow you feel really strongly about
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Phoenix sorry Phoenix people yeah I I
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know some very nice people from Phoenix
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unfortunately there's a lot more crazy
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woman sorry okay number three for me is
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at I know you're usually the one I'm
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getting my dues in here of screwing up
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the top forage of these things alright
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so my number three is a tie between a
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cruise anywhere and Branson Missouri
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okay let's I think we need to discuss
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these individually oh alright where
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would you like me to start we start with
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the cruise or bracelets were on specific
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places let's start with Branson Missouri
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I don't even know where that is what
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Missouri okay that's and it's quite
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brand I barely know where that is but
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it's this date I mean I in arc I know
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it's kind of in the middle and I mmm
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okay my Adam has a little like foam map
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and I'm trying to picture it and you
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stick on the wall and the big question
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is if you were faced with with I can
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find it well if you were face to the
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of the US with no lines in it I just
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know if a sign said Branson Missouri I
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wouldn't want to go there waiting the
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signs if you had a map but no with no
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state lines drawn it was just blank in
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the middle could you like pinpoint with
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a pencil like this is in Missouri like
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any point in there and we do you think
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you'd be right I'm guessing I have I
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think I might have the wrong hemisphere
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of the country honestly in my mind but
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it doesn't matter I'm not getting on a
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plane to Branson Missouri I am NOT
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driving to Branson Missouri I'm not
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doing it like it's not happening sorry
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Branson people it's not about the people
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it's not about the weather well maybe a
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little bit about the weather but it's
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really not because I can get over that
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kind of stuff it's about your content I
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have a problem with your content you're
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gonna have to explain this all right so
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Branson Missouri is kind of like a huge
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mega vacation spot for a whole bunch of
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theater and country music and Dolly
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Parton stuff whoo I really like Dolly
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Parton but all of that kind of Missouri
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country music yeah I don't mean to like
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crap on country music I really don't
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losing all the friends oh my gosh I know
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no and and now I just sounded like such
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a lady saying crap on country music oh
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and I've got a choice
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all right I don't mean to put down
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country music it's fine but a location
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for vacation that is so centralized and
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so saturated with country music sounds
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like one of the least fun places for me
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to go so that's why I have it it's just
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it's a lot of stuff I hear it's very
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crowded I hear the weather isn't that
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fantastic and it's almost like you know
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it's just like a big theater party of
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country music and I don't want to go
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there all right so that's it's a tie for
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cruises wait so I'm home before we leave
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Branson Missouri have you even like
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you've never mentioned before how'd you
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even hear about this place we've never
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gone anywhere near Missouri you we've
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you've never as far as I know research
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to country music destinations how'd you
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even hear about it well I used to be a
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theatre kid so Branson
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Missouri is like a big place to work or
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have jobs or that people have you know
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have worked there and it's it's kind of
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like a mecca of this kind of thing and
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if you are at all interested in that
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like going to theater going to shows
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going to concerts that all happens in
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Branson it's almost it's like a it's
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almost like a Disney World for country
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music and different types of theater
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it's just it's a very busy and dense
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area for that more than any other city
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if you think of like okay like New York
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has Broadway but Broadway is so spread
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out Branson Missouri is its own like
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special little dome of coach of that
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kind of culture and I don't want to go
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there you made fun of me for Phoenix and
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that's like wow but it but Branson is
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like a destination like it's a big big
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destination and I just would never want
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to go so if anyone's like oh I'm taking
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a trip to Branson you want to come I'd
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be like even if you're my favorite
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person in the whole world no I don't
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want to go so never is enough Branson
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Missouri tie for number three because I
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couldn't I just couldn't not say
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anything about Branson because it was
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just it's such it's it's such a dense
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area and it's so prominent and it's it's
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so well known by almost everybody except
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for Marco anyway cruises never is enough
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except we did do one cruise and we were
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totally seasick the whole time and we
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kept taking Dramamine which we thought
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was drought non-drowsy Dramamine and we
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kept falling asleep at dinner
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the food isn't that great you're kind of
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trapped on a boat you are forced to have
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fun in ways that you don't want to have
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fun you feel like you're getting nowhere
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because you aren't really getting
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anywhere if there's bad weather you the
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boats rocky and it's terrible even we
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stayed in like a really good room and it
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was still the room was high up with a
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view of water it that that part was very
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nice but it would not make that alone
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does not make me want to get on a cruise
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again you don't have enough time in the
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port cities to really do much when you
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do stop it the even just walking past
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cabin rooms made me nauseous because
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they have no windows in little beds and
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I'm like I don't know how anyone could
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stay in there I would get sick instantly
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and just all the things that were
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happening on the cruise were things that
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we never would want to even do we
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couldn't find anything to do on the boat
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that we like to do because we didn't
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want to do any of it like we don't want
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to eat half the food because it was all
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like fatty random super indulgent stuff
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that doesn't make you feel good
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especially when you're seasick half the
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time and we didn't want to go in the
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pool because almost all the other places
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were crowded we didn't want to drink
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because we were already nauseous like
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there was just so much happening on a
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cruise that we didn't want to do so I
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would never again do a cruise to
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anywhere so yeah see I feel like I feel
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like there there would be I'm sure there
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are cruises out there that we would
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enjoy more we just didn't find the right
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one and it doesn't seem like it's worth
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trying a bunch of them to find the right
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one okay so let me let me pitch it to
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you this way any kind of themed cruise I
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don't want to be forced into a theme on
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my vacation stuck on a boat with a whole
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bunch of people who are super excited
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about the theme number two an untamed
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Cruise what's happening on this cruise
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why are we even on this boat why can't I
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just be in a hotel somewhere that I can
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escape from if I wanted to and so there
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we go and I see this thing yeah like
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that for me like the I suppose the once
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we discovered Vegas which we thought we
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would hate and and we ended up you know
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finding a way that we like cruise but
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you don't move right oh it's better
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right like once we discovered that I I
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realized that most of the advantages
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that we liked about cruise is like you
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know you everything's kind of right
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there it's ah it's kind of all on
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property you don't really need to leave
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you know the cruise or the Vegas to like
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find good restaurants and stuff that you
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want to do it but I gotta say Vegas and
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I don't mind kitschy I really don't rush
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sometimes kitschy is fun but I want to
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be able to control the amount of Kitsch
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that is entering my periphery I I do and
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I feel like when we go to Vegas we stay
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at a place that we can kind of control
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kind of get away from it we have times
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that we're outside like it's just it's
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it's a low-level hum of kitsch the
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entire time it's not the shouting of
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kitsch so yeah it's just I just feel
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like cruises are just too much and I
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think at one point I'll just be like I
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might jump off the boat I don't know I
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don't know I don't want to put myself in
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that position where I feel like I want
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to jump the boat yeah I feel like part
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of our problem was that we really did
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not react well to the you know really
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rough water that we had and like when
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you're on a cruise like you're you're at
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the mercy of the water conditions for a
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lot of your enjoyment like if if you're
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having or if you're having rough seas
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you're just kind of out of luck like
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you're just gonna have to deal with that
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and even the fact that that is a tiny
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factor at all I what I know I know I'm
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just saying it is like if someone's
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considering it a tiny factor out there
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at all it being a tiny factor that the
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place where I am sleeping and staying
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and living for the amount of time that I
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have to be there could possibly move and
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make me sick I don't want to deal with
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are you are you done with all of your
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number three if you have any more number
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three's to do nope I think I hit all
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those points Branson Missouri crews not
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enough time at ports trapped seasick yep
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done okay my sole number three looks I'm
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doing this right for once
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well you just that's just sad it's all
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by itself my soul number three is
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speaking at a conference
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what so okay wait hold on mister Armand
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yes it is fine to have this list say
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things like yeah we did it once and we
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would never do it again
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this sounds like a list of things that
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you have done and have hated not so much
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an a list of things that you would never
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want to do based on the description of
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them because I really like assuming
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things personally and then you know
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talking about them like it's our job
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don't okay I'll get to those okay those
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are higher on the list okay I feel like
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right now I feel like we're getting
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getting a little sad and sad no speaka
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conferences is very simple it basically
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like you know conferences are often
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in really interesting nice places or
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venues or cities or whatever and they're
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often a way to for for you know young
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professionals to travel around for
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discounted rates or for free or to even
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get paid for traveling to these awesome
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places in exchange for you speaking at a
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conference or taking some part in a
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conference like that these are often
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held in like a some really nice places
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that I would love to have time to
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explore but when I am there to speak or
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you have a presentation or something
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I get so nervous about that and so
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consumed in the preparation of it I have
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spent so much time preparing for it that
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I'm not able to enjoy the great places
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these conferences are and so I like the
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the beauty of the place or the
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interestingness of the city or whatever
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is wasted on me because I'm I'm nervous
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about my talk or I'm you're Herzing my
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talk or I'm still building my talk
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hold the phone yeah you're playing this
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game wrong this is nightmare vacations a
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conference that invites you to speak in
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some clothes vacation it's work well it
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kind of feels like a vacation especially
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a lot of times you're not getting good
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nightmares like a vacation vacations
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well but they do and a lot of a lot of
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the vacations we've taken in the last
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five years or so have been me speaking
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at a conference and so I am rejecting
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number two can't believe that was
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alright my number two is Florida Mexico
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Machu Picchu or anywhere with monkeys
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okay wait is that is that a list to
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represent all places with monkeys or is
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the monkeys a separate item on that list
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are there monkeys in Florida is is what
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I'm really asking here I don't think
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there are monkeys in Florida if they are
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they might be like performing street
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monkeys like the little ones with the
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hats okay I don't know monkeys freak me
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out don't like monkeys I don't want to
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be in any of those cities where there
◼
►
are monkeys everywhere just can't handle
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yeah those look weird Florida sounds
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terrible I bit while I've been to
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Florida and I don't really want to go
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back for a vacation I will go back for
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things if I have to go do things in
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Florida but for a vacation like I'm
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gonna go on vacation yeah it's not gonna
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be Florida has heat humidity mosquitos
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20 something people slow drivers slow
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walkers hopefully be alligators and
◼
►
stuff alligators there's like apparently
◼
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tons of serial killers according to
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Dexter so I mean it sounds like a place
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where it doesn't sound very fun to be
◼
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down there I have Mexico on this list
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because I do believe they have monkeys
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they are also very hot but I think some
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people have had some really nice times
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in Mexico but from what I've heard again
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huge stereotype what I've heard what's
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going on the people often go to Resorts
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and that they do not leave the resort
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because it's very dangerous so that does
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not sound like a good vacation place to
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me where I would feel like oh I have to
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fly in and get to this one place and
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then everything's gonna be okay and I
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will have all the drinks that I want and
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party party party and then I just want
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to get on the plane and leave that
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doesn't make me feel great of a place to
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and Machu Picchu it's a whole bunch of
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ruins which I think are probably very
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beautiful in real life but I seen
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pictures of them and generally I don't
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need to walk around a whole bunch of
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ruins I know there's a lot of culture
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and a lot of history and things like
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that and I love learning about that kind
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of stuff from the comfort of my own
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couch and so never is enough sorry
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Florida Mexico Machu Picchu and anywhere
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with monkeys how is that possibly one
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entry they seem like a little cluster
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like a group like an idea they all kind
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of went together in my mind
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so a hot weather dangerous resorts ruins
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and monkeys so that's that all sounds
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the same to you yeah cuz root the ruins
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sound dangerous too like I feel like I
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could get hurt or bit by a snake or
◼
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something I'm not afraid of snakes but
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I'm afraid of very poisonous snakes and
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it seems like the very poisonous snakes
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would be in ruins or possibly something
◼
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cursed don't want to encounter that but
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I'm sure stakes but I'm afraid of
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getting bitten by what well yeah I'm
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►
sure there's monkeys running around
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holding you know venomous snakes and
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throwing them they throw them at you
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►
that's how the snakes get to you
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obviously I know there just seems like
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there's just too much danger for me to
◼
►
ever want to actually vacation there wow
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I have nothing to add to that I don't
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►
even know where to add from this crazy
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►
Tower number to hear that Wow yep never
◼
►
is enough I will see that Florida I
◼
►
consider putting Florida on my list
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►
because it's also not really for me
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however you know compared to Arizona
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Florida while that it also has a lot of
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►
heat and a lot of crazy wildlife and
◼
►
what a crazy Florida is full of humidity
◼
►
it's that like wet so key grossie okay
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so so Florida yes Florida is indeed very
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►
very humid but the people in dry places
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►
like Arizona I don't sell they'll say
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well it's 115 degrees here but it's a
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►
dry heat you know everyone always says
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it's a dry heat it's not as bad and
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they're right a dry heat is not as bad
◼
►
as the crazy Florida heat however as hot
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►
as it is in Arizona is bad regardless of
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how dry it is like it is still really
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bad so Florida yes Florida is also
◼
►
but horrible and that makes it bad - but
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Arizona people you you have nothing
◼
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better to say like you you have no your
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honor but Florida here why are you
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bringing Arizona back into this you just
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keep wanting to beat them down
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reasonably my Arizona in my list in
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Florida didn't is because at least when
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you go to Florida you can find a high up
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hotel room with a view of the water that
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we want to actually go outside or go
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anywhere near the surface of the ground
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where all the crazy gun people and
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alligators are but you can at least stay
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in your nice hotel and look at the water
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and enjoy the breeze that is true if we
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did go to a wedding in Florida it was
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exactly and that's that's a place where
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we went in the winter and it was really
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nice to have like fresh warm air in the
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middle of the winter because it was more
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reasonable there I would not go to
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Florida anytime during the summer
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because they would be way too hot and
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horrible but that is a nice place to go
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in the winter if you just want to stay
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in a hotel and not do much else which
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does sound kind of like us actually I'm
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still keeping Florida on my list because
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I will go to Florida for an event that
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to me is not a vacation and that's why
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you have a void at your number three
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because so I will happily go to Florida
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when invited for an event or something
◼
►
okay that's out that but as in a choice
◼
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to go to Florida generally no all right
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my number two is going back to my
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hometown for a high school reunion
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►
you're so bad at this list what is the
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►
bet that's a vacation yeah a one-time
◼
►
vacation high school reunions happen
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like three times ever
◼
►
you just country to yourself in one
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►
sentence that's fine I do what I want
◼
►
here man look good my pike so I haven't
◼
►
gone my ten-year reunion past how many
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►
years are your ten-year reunion and I'll
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►
tell you why you beat you we've gotten
◼
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snake sorting by monkeys a much broader
◼
►
idea high school reunion really isn't
◼
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events Marco doesn't want to attend
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Kayson that's a vacation you know
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because some people considered a
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vacation I'm gonna go keep going you're
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ridiculous because these are events that
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you're saying you don't want to go to
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it's like saying like I don't want to go
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to my cousin's wedding like this isn't a
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vacation event that you have to travel
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to in another place it's not a vacation
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a vacation is something that you sit
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down and you plan and you decide we have
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nothing to do this weekend and we want
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to do something or this week or next
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month or first spring break your list
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and commit a mountain and an animal
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vacations are things that you plan to go
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to when you have nothing when no that is
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an event that is an event speaking at a
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conference is an event high school
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reunions is an event going to weddings
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is an event graduations event there is e
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these are events and obligations most of
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those things right this isn't the
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offense an obligations nightmare story
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nightmare vacations which you plan for
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leisure or leisure or however you want
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to say it the thing where you do or you
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hang out and you relax and you do
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something for fun that makes you happy
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because oh my god well no you're getting
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me all riled up because you're Julie
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think of a place that you would oh my
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gosh where would you not want to go on
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vacation uh a bar in Columbus Ohio that
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has people in my high school in it
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what quit anyway that's my number two
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what's your number one honey I don't
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it's certainly not a high school reunion
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that only happens every five years that
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I wouldn't want to go to anyway what's
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your number one honey my number one
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nightmare vacation as in an event that I
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would plan and attend hmm
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I shouldn't say event I should say
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location Oh interesting you can cut that
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out that was a slip of the lip no I'm
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not cutting that up I don't it's not an
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event all right good night verification
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a place that I would plan to go to and
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enjoy some time there or not enjoy my
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number one is Disney Disney sounds like
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the worst oh you'd go there of our
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friends talk about going to Disney and
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everything that they talk about
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happening in Disney sounds terrible
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it just sounds terrible it is lines it
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is crowds its heat its people and giant
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character costumes which is slightly
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terrifying it's like you know I've been
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and I'm sure a little bit of Branson
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Missouri is in there too because they
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have that whole small world business
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going on so it just rolled into one
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giant aqua globe of just things not for
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you not fun no not fun yeah it's it's
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hard for it cuz like so many of our
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friends do go to Disney on a regular
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basis and enjoy it and tell us that we
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would like it or that we should go I
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would not land and every time they
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explained to us why we would like it and
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why it's not what we think the things
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they say are things that we don't like
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or would hate like it no one has ever
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made a good argument as to why we would
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like this they may they be convinced as
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to why they like it and that's fine as
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you mentioned it's at the start of the
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show people like different things but no
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it said anything about Disney or what
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it's like to actually go there that made
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it sound tempting for us and we we are
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it sounds terrible to go there with
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children because first of all you have
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to force them through all the crowds and
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the lines and the heat and the
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terrifying characters and the travel to
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get there to be in life and the travel
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to get there to begin with and then you
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either have to get there super early at
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the park or stay there for a really long
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time and there's all kinds of strange
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weirdo passes that don't seem to work
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the way they need to work to throw a
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whole bunch of money at the problem
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you have to like plan all of this stuff
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and have these silly little key fob e
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things all over the place that they're
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apparently some nice restaurants to go
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to but you have to go through all of the
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lines heat crowds and characters to get
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to the restaurants so why would I bother
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I can't go to a nice restaurant here
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without waiting online without going
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through all creepy characters without
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having all of this happen I have no
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heart connection to Disney whatsoever
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I really don't my son has really no
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heart connection to Disney yes we like
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to watch movies they are fine they're
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movies that's what they are I don't need
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to go get into the movie to enjoy it
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like I have no desire to that I see the
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movie I it's over I shut it off and I
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move on with my life I would not like
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Disney I just I wouldn't like it I've
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been there as a child I have very little
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memory of it I don't I don't think I had
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that much fun I mean I might have had
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some fun but I just remember it being
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hot I remember not wanting to walk and I
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remember waiting aligns so there you go
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and I remember goofy trying to bite my
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head at a restaurant and it was super
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awkward why did he do that I was a
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little girl didn't need to happen anyway
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probably like some poor high school kid
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in the summer job in that costume and I
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also feel bad for all the people who are
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working there right they all have to
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like sit in those sweltering costumes
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and like just everything surrounding the
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Disney I don't think I would like I I
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just don't know ride to me is worth a
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two-hour line nothing is like no ride to
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me is worth booking hours in advance and
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then trying to get back to it to go to
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it just if I wanted to go on rides I'll
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just go for a day at an amusement park
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and rainy days in amusement park
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are awesome actually rollercoasters in
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the rain amazing cuz they're not that
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scary but they're much better when the
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rains in your face is going to it's
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really very fun then but yeah I just
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yeah trams parking every I know
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everything about it yeah I think we are
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we are lucky in that our Sun is really
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has it really never gotten that
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interested in like the individual
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characters of the movies like he'll want
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to watch a movie a few times and then
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you know he'll be he'll like the movie
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for a little bit and then he'll be done
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with it he'll move on he doesn't get
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obsessed with the characters as much as
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a lot of kids do and so yeah we bought
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him some like little toys of things of
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characters for movies he likes and he
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likes it's like oh cool and then he
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moves on yeah yeah yeah so like we're
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lucky that like you know if your kids
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are super into it then I could see why
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you'd go that you know you were you'd
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endure all this stuff you know to give
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your kids a good time but why adults go
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there is for them for their own benefit
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is all for reasons that sound awful to
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me and like and I know we're getting the
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most feedback about this we're and we're
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gonna have the most of our friends
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telling us why we should do this and why
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we're all wrong about this
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I'm sorry folks never enough it sounds
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that what you're getting it sounds it
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sounds like it's not worth all the
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hassle and and also you know if we were
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if we were to go everybody has their
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tips about well it is horrible you're
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right unless you do tips XY and Z and
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everyone has a different list of those
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things and I know that in practice we
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wouldn't we would do something wrong we
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you know we would not do the tip
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correctly or we would not take the
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Fastpass Express line properly or
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whatever and like something we would do
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it wrong and then ever end we'd have a
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bad time and all these people who were
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telling us that we would love this would
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be like well you just did it wrong like
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I don't think it's just I don't want the
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possibility of going somewhere and just
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because I went there and I didn't do it
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right it was the reason I didn't want it
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didn't have fun I just want to be able
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to go somewhere and enjoy it for what it
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is I don't want to have to put in a
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whole bunch of research and work and
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overhead to have fun in a fake fun land
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yeah it seems like you can really have
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to try very hard to properly manage a
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successful Disney trip and I know there
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are people you can pay to help you
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manage it and even that sounds weird it
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sounds it just sounds like a waste of
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money to me like I really I wouldn't
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even feel good about throwing money at
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this problem because it doesn't sound
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like a great way for us to spend money
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in order to get back memories of
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enjoyment because I would spend the
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having angry face the only thing I will
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say just agree with you on is you said
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you kind of said earlier that like you'd
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rather go there than other or you rather
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go go to just any amusement park I
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honestly I don't like any amusement
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parks if I'm going to go to one I would
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probably want to go to a really big
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well-run one and by most people
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description descriptions Disney is that
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so no see to me an amusement park is a
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getting get out you spent you go there
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you spend a couple hours there yeah but
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it's not like tons of it a week
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difference no and it's not like let me
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buy Fast Pass tickets to get on a line
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that other people are standing on for
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two hours it's literally like a
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15-minute line to go do the log flume or
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whatever and then you're done like well
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but like you know smaller parks are
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often you know not very well-run and you
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know at least it does it have to be for
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you to go there you get your dippin dots
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you get online for the roller coaster
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you use the bathroom four or five times
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you watch the bird show and then the
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spinning plates and then you get to go
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home like it's done yeah see I would
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rather just not go to him using Park at
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all and just do anything else in the in
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the world than that anyway so that's
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your number one yeah that is my hard and
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strong number one Disney no matter what
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anyone tells me it's not gonna happen
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and I respect that you enjoy it because
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it's your vacation it's not mine so
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there we go my number one is similar to
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some of your ones that you've been
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sprinkling throughout your various
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horribly structured list you have over
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there okay is it monkeys or Branson
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Missouri its rocks no it's similar
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that's actually my number one is the
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general category of hiking and camping
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Oh see now that's that's a proper mode
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you get battery on the list yes the
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general category of hiking and camping
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this also includes tangentially related
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things like mountain climbing RV touring
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or caravana depending where you are the
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idea of going in a vehicle that's
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basically a big camper van thing so
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pretty much any form of roughing it
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which is outside of your own home yeah
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exactly and and it's like pretty much
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like everything Brady doesn't vacation
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like Brady goes to nice resorts as well
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these are grinding mountains and stuff
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and like diving into volcanoes like I
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don't want to do any of that or any
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outdoor hike or or any kind of camping
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or anything like camping I really prefer
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the not camping yeah I really prefer the
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the basic modern amenities of like
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bathrooms and walls climate control when
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necessary screens to block out things
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like mosquitoes all night or monkey um I
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like being able to have like a small
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snack in my bag without having to worry
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about bears you know stuff like that
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like I'm hiking or monkeys yeah I guess
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yeah like just everything about that
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about like the whole like you know
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camping scene that just is incredibly
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unappealing to me we have done it and it
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was far too many toenails - yeah that
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was not great they grew back it's fine
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yeah and and hiking as like a trip like
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I don't mind like a day hike where which
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is basically a fancy word for walking in
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the woods that's cool
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but like when you're like carrying days
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worth of stuff in a backpack and then
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camping at night and stuff that is
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really not at all for me we have a large
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supply of camping gear and hiking
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backpacks for sale if anyone is
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interested please contact Marco hmm yeah
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use it once yes please
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oh they were heavily used but for a
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short time that's true
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heavily used once heavily used for four
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God impression bags mm-hmm we got it all
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mm-hmm all sorts of stuff that I hope to
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never use again cuz we love gear mm-hmm
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we do like that the gear shopping and
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everything was much better than the
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actual use of subset gear our son plays
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in the tent in our playroom does yep yep
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yes five-year-olds and pillows and
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popcorn while watching movies inside
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hiking camping that whole the whole
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outdoor holding the whole outdoor
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adventure category nothing not at all
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for me at all for people who this is for
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more power to you I respect that but
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please never never bring me again so
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yeah I could I could get into some small
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versions of those so that's why I didn't
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put them on my list like I could do a
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little bit of camping here and there I
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think I think campfires are fun I like
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wood walking I feel proud of the trip
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that we did even though it was
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exhausting and tiring and I probably
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wouldn't do it again but I'm proud that
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we did do it yeah but that is that is a
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legit entry I'm surprised Disney didn't
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make your list because I had Disney on
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my consideration listen I got some would
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you like to put Disney in either your
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number two or number three slots I was
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rejected by the top four committee I I
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dispute the rejection still it doesn't
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matter I'm a committee of one I guess
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yeah third in number three I guess all
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right there we go I don't know if I'll
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see I don't know if I'd hated enough to
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put it at number one number one I'm just
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asking if you wanted to pop it in to
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number two or three since you had some
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openings I never wanna do that stuff