Top Four

◼   ► you know it's the summertime it is time

◼   ► for vacations for a lot of people

◼   ► especially August especially August yeah

◼   ► August is like I think the top vacation

◼   ► month according to the zero research I

◼   ► did before the show about that but but

◼   ► you know there are some vacations a

◼   ► vacation I feel like is a relative term

◼   ► it's a thing that you can do but the

◼   ► things that people choose to do whether

◼   ► they consider that a vacation or not it

◼   ► seems to vary person by person you know

◼   ► but even that sometimes you go on

◼   ► vacation and when you get home you feel

◼   ► like you need a vacation from your

◼   ► vacation yeah exactly like some

◼   ► vacations are just exhausting and some

◼   ► of them are really actually not very fun

◼   ► or not very relaxing you know that very

◼   ► naked lady song never is enough yeah

◼   ► never wanna do that stuff well hearing a

◼   ► lot of our friends and family and loved

◼   ► ones talk about their vacations just

◼   ► sometimes make us say yeah I'm never

◼   ► doing that is plenty of doing that for

◼   ► me and I'm super happy that they enjoyed

◼   ► their vacations as you should but we

◼   ► would like to make a list of our top for

◼   ► vacation nightmares or nightmare

◼   ► vacations I guess

◼   ► or nightmare vacations and some of mine

◼   ► too are things that I actually have done

◼   ► yeah I mean fact I've done most of these

◼   ► and I don't want to do them again

◼   ► exactly

◼   ► yeah because you know it's for me like a

◼   ► vacation for me is I mean something like

◼   ► everybody wants different things out of

◼   ► their vacation some people want to do as

◼   ► little as possible some people want to

◼   ► travel as much as possible and and

◼   ► sightsee when they travel and and or do

◼   ► things like have big adventures when

◼   ► they travel stuff like that and for and

◼   ► you know for other people the the ideal

◼   ► vacation is just like just staying in

◼   ► their house doing as little as possible

◼   ► doing nothing some people want to want

◼   ► to or need to bring their kids or their

◼   ► pets and some people that's the last

◼   ► thing they want to do and and so there's

◼   ► a huge variety of like what people

◼   ► actually want out of a vacation so

◼   ► anyway so this is this is not to insult

◼   ► anyone elses

◼   ► vacation preferences this is gonna be

◼   ► just like the things that we really are

◼   ► not interested in doing do you think at

◼   ► this point people are really insulted by

◼   ► our opinions I guess we probably lost

◼   ► them a long time ago yeah I think the

◼   ► people that get easily insulted have has

◼   ► switched us off probably so anyway so

◼   ► for those of you who are left and not

◼   ► yet insulted prepare to be insulted so

◼   ► here you go we're gonna we're gonna

◼   ► trash everything you like to do oh sorry

◼   ► not sorry we don't want to do it it's

◼   ► our idea of vacation it's not ideal

◼   ► vacations in general because we did not

◼   ► take all vacations like we ate all the

◼   ► ice cream and just tried them out and

◼   ► report it back to you this one why the

◼   ► complete rejection oh we should have

◼   ► done that that would have been the real

◼   ► way to do it so sorry everybody we have

◼   ► we made a huge mistake we should have

◼   ► just taken all of the money that we make

◼   ► from the podcasts and run around and

◼   ► take in all of these vacations yeah just

◼   ► take it just take a bunch of vacations

◼   ► for a whole year and then review the

◼   ► vacations that we take that could be our

◼   ► next podcast actually mark joint if on

◼   ► vacation complain about everywhere we

◼   ► are we would be the worst travel show

◼   ► yeah we'd be like this is boring or

◼   ► weird or I'm tired or I'm hot Oh God

◼   ► that would be everything everywhere we

◼   ► went we would be so dull anyway let's

◼   ► talk about where we would be dull all

◼   ► right my number four are you ready I am

◼   ► ready let's do it alright so in the

◼   ► spirit of top four okay it's a little

◼   ► convoluted here but I have anything

◼   ► skiing cold weather or an ice hotel what

◼   ► is an ice hotel an ice hotel is exactly

◼   ► what it sounds like it's an entire Hotel

◼   ► made of ice that exists like not in

◼   ► movies like I know like you can go stay

◼   ► in nice hotels that sounds like the

◼   ► worst that does some pretty bad like you

◼   ► literally sleep on ice bed in like skins

◼   ► of animals that sounds that way it's

◼   ► p.m. people pay to do this yes they

◼   ► totally pay you this and go to the ice

◼   ► bar and like say in the Ice Hotel benya

◼   ► Lane I I like like a chilled environment

◼   ► like I I appreciate you know there's

◼   ► like two kills

◼   ► the signs freezer-burn like you all will

◼   ► be getting freezer burn if you lie on

◼   ► the floor for too long you get like like

◼   ► frostbite the quints yeah I don't know

◼   ► okay so I seen it like on Travel

◼   ► Channel's and stuff and like Rando

◼   ► internet things like 12 vacations you

◼   ► would don't believe but so easy man I'm

◼   ► like nope I never I never want to do

◼   ► that that's something I never cared to

◼   ► see yeah yeah that sounds awful I mean

◼   ► like I just see even like getting there

◼   ► to see it sounds cold like it sounds

◼   ► like too much to even see it I think

◼   ► seeing it on the TV is just plenty cuz

◼   ► you probably can't have a nice hotel in

◼   ► any remotely warm climate so you have to

◼   ► have to already be in a very cold

◼   ► location they might have one in Dubai

◼   ► well yeah that's everything you do by

◼   ► anyway I also made my list I put those

◼   ► with skiing because I used to really

◼   ► like skiing and I did it with my dad but

◼   ► now I feel like I'm too old and scared

◼   ► to do skiing well like I feel like I

◼   ► just might wet my legs start wobbling

◼   ► yeah as soon as I think about skiing

◼   ► it's exhausting yeah like I did I did go

◼   ► on a ski vacation

◼   ► as part of a bachelor party for my best

◼   ► friend for you know for his before his

◼   ► wedding right that's one of them yeah

◼   ► yeah yeah and and and we went skiing a

◼   ► couple years ago and it was it was in a

◼   ► great location near Seattle and I hadn't

◼   ► been skiing since high school and so I

◼   ► hadn't skied for whatever it was like 10

◼   ► 15 years and dangerous it sounds

◼   ► terrifying and the good thing is I

◼   ► remembered how to do it like I did I

◼   ► hadn't lost the skill but as soon like I

◼   ► went down the slopes a few times and I

◼   ► was like oh my god like my knees are

◼   ► starting to get tired and I'm starting

◼   ► to get less stable now and I know like

◼   ► when I was 17 doing this I was probably

◼   ► still mostly made of rubber so that

◼   ► wouldn't really matter if I hurt myself

◼   ► but when I was like 33 or 34 doing it

◼   ► like I would have seriously injured

◼   ► myself and had a much worse longer

◼   ► recovery time if I would have you know

◼   ► fallen in some weird way I messed up my

◼   ► legs but the thing about skiing really

◼   ► is that it needs to have the absolute

◼   ► perfect

◼   ► conditions for it to be fun at all and

◼   ► you need to be in excellent physical

◼   ► condition and practiced at skiing and

◼   ► even if you're hanging out at the lodge

◼   ► it's really not that fun because on like

◼   ► peak ski seasons it's so crowded and

◼   ► it's noisier than it needs to be and you

◼   ► have to wear like weird fitting clothes

◼   ► and wear those stoppi boots and like hey

◼   ► there's just there's so many things

◼   ► there's just so many things and no it's

◼   ► just no so anyway I just don't want to

◼   ► pack for winter vacations it just sounds

◼   ► so bulky and packing for that it's just

◼   ► exhausting I don't want to be on

◼   ► anything treacherous outside like an

◼   ► Everest vacation where there's there's

◼   ► terrifying bridges or ledges or anywhere

◼   ► that I might die like I don't want to

◼   ► encounter any of that winter cold

◼   ► vacation tastic stuff so yeah I mean no

◼   ► thanks I think part of the reasons like

◼   ► we live in New York where we have

◼   ► winters with snow and everything it's

◼   ► like and even though it's not the same

◼   ► as like you know going up a huge

◼   ► mountain with like that kind of snow

◼   ► it's we still have enough snow in enough

◼   ► winters that the last thing we want to

◼   ► do is pay and spend vacation time to go

◼   ► somewhere to experience more winter yeah

◼   ► cuz I couldn't I couldn't even think of

◼   ► a season that I would want to go to

◼   ► winter so in winter I don't want to go

◼   ► to more winter when it's finally spring

◼   ► I'm like thank God spring like you don't

◼   ► want to go to winter when it's

◼   ► summertime it's summertime why waste the

◼   ► summer going back to winter and then

◼   ► when the fall it's almost winter so why

◼   ► [Laughter]

◼   ► that's yeah you're right that's totally

◼   ► amazing yeah it's like IIIi agree like

◼   ► there-there is no time of year where I

◼   ► we're like experiencing more winter like

◼   ► things would be considered refreshing

◼   ► like even now in August when we had were

◼   ► having some really hot days and hanging

◼   ► out in uh near conditioned places a lot

◼   ► of the time and and so we really should

◼   ► like if there was a time that we would

◼   ► want to do that it's probably now and we

◼   ► don't want it like it sounds uh so

◼   ► because I don't want

◼   ► think about putting on more clothes and

◼   ► when you go to the winter you have to

◼   ► put more clothes on so like I don't want

◼   ► to think about bundling up when I'm at

◼   ► my hot like feeling the hottest in the

◼   ► weather anyway so yeah

◼   ► number four never is enough winter so my

◼   ► number four I kind of went in the

◼   ► opposite direction and this is this is

◼   ► one of my only ones that's that's a very

◼   ► specific place and that is Phoenix

◼   ► Arizona and but with all due apologies

◼   ► to the great residents of Phoenix I'm

◼   ► not talking about you here this is very

◼   ► specific yes I'm very curious so the

◼   ► reason was so I I have been to Phoenix

◼   ► Arizona for a number of different things

◼   ► over the years most most notably my

◼   ► grandparents used to live there but now

◼   ► they don't so I don't really have any

◼   ► reason to go back there for any kind of

◼   ► like strong family connection or

◼   ► anything

◼   ► it would just be if I went back there it

◼   ► would be for some other random reason

◼   ► and Phoenix Arizona is a place where for

◼   ► most of the year it is oppressively hot

◼   ► you know so it is so hot and so sunny

◼   ► and so dry because they decided to build

◼   ► a city in the middle of a desert for

◼   ► some reason that they're you you

◼   ► basically can't go outside like it one

◼   ► of the reasons why I get kind of

◼   ► depressed and unhappy in winter is

◼   ► because I feel like the outside

◼   ► conditions are so hostile that I can't

◼   ► really go outside and enjoy myself I

◼   ► can't go like take a big dog lock or or

◼   ► just like walk around outside or do

◼   ► things outside because it's so

◼   ► impressively cold and crappy in the

◼   ► winter Phoenix has that problem in the

◼   ► opposite direction on the heat side like

◼   ► Phoenix is so hot that you basically end

◼   ► up spending all of your time indoors in

◼   ► air conditioning anyway so you can't

◼   ► you're still not going outside and able

◼   ► to really do much outside except for

◼   ► during you know very limited times of

◼   ► the year and limited times of the day

◼   ► but that could be like it that could be

◼   ► a lot of different hot places why

◼   ► Phoenix specifically because Phoenix

◼   ► does not offer me any reason why I want

◼   ► to endure that heat so like one of the

◼   ► reasons like so reason is they didn't

◼   ► give me a good enough reason yeah

◼   ► basically so like like what I want

◼   ► travel somewhere one of the things I'd

◼   ► like to do as you know one of the things

◼   ► that that we enjoy doing is getting a

◼   ► hotel room that has a decent view the

◼   ► kind of view I usually like to get is

◼   ► usually of water or at least a very high

◼   ► up view and one thing Phoenix does not

◼   ► have a lot of is high up hotel buildings

◼   ► and water so there's not a lot there to

◼   ► attract me there now that my family

◼   ► doesn't live there anymore it's also

◼   ► full of not only the the very hostile

◼   ► natural environment of Phoenix but also

◼   ► the wildlife in the in the Phoenix area

◼   ► is scary as hell like they have this the

◼   ► like you know scorpions and coyotes and

◼   ► super coyotes and mega coyotes and ultra

◼   ► coyotes everything that will try to eat

◼   ► you and kill you not to mention the gun

◼   ► people like there's I find the people in

◼   ► Phoenix to be not you do you listener

◼   ► and yeah you're gonna piss off people

◼   ► well you dear listener in Phoenix we're

◼   ► not this are not these people you're

◼   ► probably not the majority unfortunately

◼   ► the other people in Phoenix who are not

◼   ► listening to the show I find generally

◼   ► off-putting too scary and and there you

◼   ► know there's a big like you know

◼   ► conservative gun racists you know

◼   ► undertone of a lot of people there it's

◼   ► interesting very specific here I know

◼   ► something happened to you in Phoenix

◼   ► that you need to talk about no it's just

◼   ► to read to have a moment to get the

◼   ► culture there I feel like it is not a

◼   ► good fit for me either in addition to

◼   ► the climate being a very bad fit for me

◼   ► and then finally is the law of hot

◼   ► places the law of hot places is

◼   ► basically my rule that says that places

◼   ► with really hot letter tend to have

◼   ► really crappy coffee and Phoenix it's

◼   ► true Phoenix is the place where I came

◼   ► up with the law of hot places it is the

◼   ► place that inspired it's the birthplace

◼   ► of the law of hot places they should

◼   ► have a plaque actually at the Phoenix

◼   ► Airport

◼   ► yeah the airport the same Sky Harbor

◼   ► because there's no water anywhere nearby

◼   ► yes

◼   ► everyone wants to be port city it's fine

◼   ► everyone's jealous

◼   ► I respect the the level of denial

◼   ► they've achieved in that Airport with

◼   ► all like the nautical themes it's bad

◼   ► anyway so yeah like the law of hot

◼   ► places basically is you know places with

◼   ► very hot weather tend not to have a lot

◼   ► people seeking out hot coffee and you

◼   ► know most of the caffeine serving these

◼   ► places tends to be iced coffee or you

◼   ► know other like variations like

◼   ► Frappuccino kind of blended drink stuff

◼   ► like that and so ice coffee you're

◼   ► loading up with milk and sugar anyway

◼   ► like even people like me who enjoy black

◼   ► coffee

◼   ► you met most of us I would have eight I

◼   ► would wager will add some kind of

◼   ► sweetener or milk or something to iced

◼   ► coffee so the hot places tend not to

◼   ► have very good coffee because nobody

◼   ► ever really wants it like that there

◼   ► aren't a lot of like hot black coffee

◼   ► drinkers there and and those of us who

◼   ► are there have basically had to deal

◼   ► with whatever options we have and

◼   ► there's not very many of them so there's

◼   ► not really any incentive for them to

◼   ► have a great coffee and they usually

◼   ► don't so combine the relatively poor

◼   ► coffee options along with the miserably

◼   ► hot weather the the oppressive outdoor

◼   ► conditions the ultra maker coyotes and

◼   ► the gun people and I just don't want to

◼   ► go there anymore well there we go

◼   ► wow you feel really strongly about

◼   ► Phoenix sorry Phoenix people yeah I I

◼   ► know some very nice people from Phoenix

◼   ► unfortunately there's a lot more crazy

◼   ► woman sorry okay number three for me is

◼   ► at I know you're usually the one I'm

◼   ► getting my dues in here of screwing up

◼   ► the top forage of these things alright

◼   ► so my number three is a tie between a

◼   ► cruise anywhere and Branson Missouri

◼   ► okay let's I think we need to discuss

◼   ► these individually oh alright where

◼   ► would you like me to start we start with

◼   ► the cruise or bracelets were on specific

◼   ► places let's start with Branson Missouri

◼   ► I don't even know where that is what

◼   ► Missouri okay that's and it's quite

◼   ► brand I barely know where that is but

◼   ► it's this date I mean I in arc I know

◼   ► it's kind of in the middle and I mmm

◼   ► okay my Adam has a little like foam map

◼   ► and I'm trying to picture it and you

◼   ► stick on the wall and the big question

◼   ► is if you were faced with with I can

◼   ► find it well if you were face to the

◼   ► of the US with no lines in it I just

◼   ► know if a sign said Branson Missouri I

◼   ► wouldn't want to go there waiting the

◼   ► signs if you had a map but no with no

◼   ► state lines drawn it was just blank in

◼   ► the middle could you like pinpoint with

◼   ► a pencil like this is in Missouri like

◼   ► any point in there and we do you think

◼   ► you'd be right I'm guessing I have I

◼   ► think I might have the wrong hemisphere

◼   ► of the country honestly in my mind but

◼   ► it doesn't matter I'm not getting on a

◼   ► plane to Branson Missouri I am NOT

◼   ► driving to Branson Missouri I'm not

◼   ► doing it like it's not happening sorry

◼   ► Branson people it's not about the people

◼   ► it's not about the weather well maybe a

◼   ► little bit about the weather but it's

◼   ► really not because I can get over that

◼   ► kind of stuff it's about your content I

◼   ► have a problem with your content you're

◼   ► gonna have to explain this all right so

◼   ► Branson Missouri is kind of like a huge

◼   ► mega vacation spot for a whole bunch of

◼   ► theater and country music and Dolly

◼   ► Parton stuff whoo I really like Dolly

◼   ► Parton but all of that kind of Missouri

◼   ► country music yeah I don't mean to like

◼   ► crap on country music I really don't

◼   ► losing all the friends oh my gosh I know

◼   ► I'm so sorry

◼   ► no and and now I just sounded like such

◼   ► a lady saying crap on country music oh

◼   ► and I've got a choice

◼   ► all right I don't mean to put down

◼   ► country music it's fine but a location

◼   ► for vacation that is so centralized and

◼   ► so saturated with country music sounds

◼   ► like one of the least fun places for me

◼   ► to go so that's why I have it it's just

◼   ► it's a lot of stuff I hear it's very

◼   ► crowded I hear the weather isn't that

◼   ► fantastic and it's almost like you know

◼   ► it's just like a big theater party of

◼   ► country music and I don't want to go

◼   ► there all right so that's it's a tie for

◼   ► cruises wait so I'm home before we leave

◼   ► Branson Missouri have you even like

◼   ► you've never mentioned before how'd you

◼   ► even hear about this place we've never

◼   ► gone anywhere near Missouri you we've

◼   ► you've never as far as I know research

◼   ► to country music destinations how'd you

◼   ► even hear about it well I used to be a

◼   ► theatre kid so Branson

◼   ► Missouri is like a big place to work or

◼   ► have jobs or that people have you know

◼   ► have worked there and it's it's kind of

◼   ► like a mecca of this kind of thing and

◼   ► if you are at all interested in that

◼   ► like going to theater going to shows

◼   ► going to concerts that all happens in

◼   ► Branson it's almost it's like a it's

◼   ► almost like a Disney World for country

◼   ► music and different types of theater

◼   ► it's just it's a very busy and dense

◼   ► area for that more than any other city

◼   ► if you think of like okay like New York

◼   ► has Broadway but Broadway is so spread

◼   ► out Branson Missouri is its own like

◼   ► special little dome of coach of that

◼   ► kind of culture and I don't want to go

◼   ► there you made fun of me for Phoenix and

◼   ► that's like wow but it but Branson is

◼   ► like a destination like it's a big big

◼   ► destination and I just would never want

◼   ► to go so if anyone's like oh I'm taking

◼   ► a trip to Branson you want to come I'd

◼   ► be like even if you're my favorite

◼   ► person in the whole world no I don't

◼   ► want to go so never is enough Branson

◼   ► Missouri tie for number three because I

◼   ► couldn't I just couldn't not say

◼   ► anything about Branson because it was

◼   ► just it's such it's it's such a dense

◼   ► area and it's so prominent and it's it's

◼   ► so well known by almost everybody except

◼   ► for Marco anyway cruises never is enough

◼   ► except we did do one cruise and we were

◼   ► totally seasick the whole time and we

◼   ► kept taking Dramamine which we thought

◼   ► was drought non-drowsy Dramamine and we

◼   ► kept falling asleep at dinner

◼   ► the food isn't that great you're kind of

◼   ► trapped on a boat you are forced to have

◼   ► fun in ways that you don't want to have

◼   ► fun you feel like you're getting nowhere

◼   ► because you aren't really getting

◼   ► anywhere if there's bad weather you the

◼   ► boats rocky and it's terrible even we

◼   ► stayed in like a really good room and it

◼   ► was still the room was high up with a

◼   ► view of water it that that part was very

◼   ► nice but it would not make that alone

◼   ► does not make me want to get on a cruise

◼   ► again you don't have enough time in the

◼   ► port cities to really do much when you

◼   ► do stop it the even just walking past

◼   ► some of the interior

◼   ► cabin rooms made me nauseous because

◼   ► they have no windows in little beds and

◼   ► I'm like I don't know how anyone could

◼   ► stay in there I would get sick instantly

◼   ► and just all the things that were

◼   ► happening on the cruise were things that

◼   ► we never would want to even do we

◼   ► couldn't find anything to do on the boat

◼   ► that we like to do because we didn't

◼   ► want to do any of it like we don't want

◼   ► to eat half the food because it was all

◼   ► like fatty random super indulgent stuff

◼   ► that doesn't make you feel good

◼   ► especially when you're seasick half the

◼   ► time and we didn't want to go in the

◼   ► pool because almost all the other places

◼   ► were crowded we didn't want to drink

◼   ► because we were already nauseous like

◼   ► there was just so much happening on a

◼   ► cruise that we didn't want to do so I

◼   ► would never again do a cruise to

◼   ► anywhere so yeah see I feel like I feel

◼   ► like there there would be I'm sure there

◼   ► are cruises out there that we would

◼   ► enjoy more we just didn't find the right

◼   ► one and it doesn't seem like it's worth

◼   ► trying a bunch of them to find the right

◼   ► one okay so let me let me pitch it to

◼   ► you this way any kind of themed cruise I

◼   ► don't want to be forced into a theme on

◼   ► my vacation stuck on a boat with a whole

◼   ► bunch of people who are super excited

◼   ► about the theme number two an untamed

◼   ► Cruise what's happening on this cruise

◼   ► why are we even on this boat why can't I

◼   ► just be in a hotel somewhere that I can

◼   ► escape from if I wanted to and so there

◼   ► we go and I see this thing yeah like

◼   ► that for me like the I suppose the once

◼   ► we discovered Vegas which we thought we

◼   ► would hate and and we ended up you know

◼   ► finding a way that we like cruise but

◼   ► you don't move right oh it's better

◼   ► right like once we discovered that I I

◼   ► realized that most of the advantages

◼   ► that we liked about cruise is like you

◼   ► know you everything's kind of right

◼   ► there it's ah it's kind of all on

◼   ► property you don't really need to leave

◼   ► you know the cruise or the Vegas to like

◼   ► find good restaurants and stuff that you

◼   ► want to do it but I gotta say Vegas and

◼   ► cruises

◼   ► I don't mind kitschy I really don't rush

◼   ► sometimes kitschy is fun but I want to

◼   ► be able to control the amount of Kitsch

◼   ► that is entering my periphery I I do and

◼   ► I feel like when we go to Vegas we stay

◼   ► at a place that we can kind of control

◼   ► the amount of kitsch

◼   ► kind of get away from it we have times

◼   ► that we're outside like it's just it's

◼   ► it's a low-level hum of kitsch the

◼   ► entire time it's not the shouting of

◼   ► kitsch so yeah it's just I just feel

◼   ► like cruises are just too much and I

◼   ► think at one point I'll just be like I

◼   ► might jump off the boat I don't know I

◼   ► don't know I don't want to put myself in

◼   ► that position where I feel like I want

◼   ► to jump the boat yeah I feel like part

◼   ► of our problem was that we really did

◼   ► not react well to the you know really

◼   ► rough water that we had and like when

◼   ► you're on a cruise like you're you're at

◼   ► the mercy of the water conditions for a

◼   ► lot of your enjoyment like if if you're

◼   ► having or if you're having rough seas

◼   ► you're just kind of out of luck like

◼   ► you're just gonna have to deal with that

◼   ► and even the fact that that is a tiny

◼   ► factor at all I what I know I know I'm

◼   ► just saying it is like if someone's

◼   ► considering it a tiny factor out there

◼   ► at all it being a tiny factor that the

◼   ► place where I am sleeping and staying

◼   ► and living for the amount of time that I

◼   ► have to be there could possibly move and

◼   ► make me sick I don't want to deal with

◼   ► it yeah all right

◼   ► are you are you done with all of your

◼   ► number three if you have any more number

◼   ► three's to do nope I think I hit all

◼   ► those points Branson Missouri crews not

◼   ► enough time at ports trapped seasick yep

◼   ► done okay my sole number three looks I'm

◼   ► doing this right for once

◼   ► well you just that's just sad it's all

◼   ► by itself my soul number three is

◼   ► speaking at a conference

◼   ► what so okay wait hold on mister Armand

◼   ► yes it is fine to have this list say

◼   ► things like yeah we did it once and we

◼   ► would never do it again

◼   ► this sounds like a list of things that

◼   ► you have done and have hated not so much

◼   ► an a list of things that you would never

◼   ► want to do based on the description of

◼   ► them because I really like assuming

◼   ► things personally and then you know

◼   ► talking about them like it's our job

◼   ► don't okay I'll get to those okay those

◼   ► are higher on the list okay I feel like

◼   ► right now I feel like we're getting

◼   ► getting a little sad and sad no speaka

◼   ► conferences is very simple it basically

◼   ► like you know conferences are often

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◼   ► venues or cities or whatever and they're

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◼   ► conference or taking some part in a

◼   ► conference like that these are often

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◼   ► that I would love to have time to

◼   ► explore but when I am there to speak or

◼   ► you have a presentation or something

◼   ► like that

◼   ► I get so nervous about that and so

◼   ► consumed in the preparation of it I have

◼   ► spent so much time preparing for it that

◼   ► I'm not able to enjoy the great places

◼   ► these conferences are and so I like the

◼   ► the beauty of the place or the

◼   ► interestingness of the city or whatever

◼   ► is wasted on me because I'm I'm nervous

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◼   ► hold the phone yeah you're playing this

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◼   ► well but they do and a lot of a lot of

◼   ► the vacations we've taken in the last

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◼   ► number two can't believe that was

◼   ► alright my number two is Florida Mexico

◼   ► Machu Picchu or anywhere with monkeys

◼   ► okay wait is that is that a list to

◼   ► represent all places with monkeys or is

◼   ► the monkeys a separate item on that list

◼   ► are there monkeys in Florida is is what

◼   ► I'm really asking here I don't think

◼   ► there are monkeys in Florida if they are

◼   ► they might be like performing street

◼   ► monkeys like the little ones with the

◼   ► hats okay I don't know monkeys freak me

◼   ► out don't like monkeys I don't want to

◼   ► be in any of those cities where there

◼   ► are monkeys everywhere just can't handle

◼   ► it

◼   ► yeah those look weird Florida sounds

◼   ► terrible I bit while I've been to

◼   ► Florida and I don't really want to go

◼   ► back for a vacation I will go back for

◼   ► things if I have to go do things in

◼   ► Florida but for a vacation like I'm

◼   ► gonna go on vacation yeah it's not gonna

◼   ► be Florida has heat humidity mosquitos

◼   ► 20 something people slow drivers slow

◼   ► walkers hopefully be alligators and

◼   ► stuff alligators there's like apparently

◼   ► tons of serial killers according to

◼   ► Dexter so I mean it sounds like a place

◼   ► where it doesn't sound very fun to be

◼   ► down there I have Mexico on this list

◼   ► because I do believe they have monkeys

◼   ► they are also very hot but I think some

◼   ► people have had some really nice times

◼   ► in Mexico but from what I've heard again

◼   ► huge stereotype what I've heard what's

◼   ► going on the people often go to Resorts

◼   ► and that they do not leave the resort

◼   ► because it's very dangerous so that does

◼   ► not sound like a good vacation place to

◼   ► me where I would feel like oh I have to

◼   ► fly in and get to this one place and

◼   ► then everything's gonna be okay and I

◼   ► will have all the drinks that I want and

◼   ► party party party and then I just want

◼   ► to get on the plane and leave that

◼   ► doesn't make me feel great of a place to

◼   ► go visit

◼   ► and Machu Picchu it's a whole bunch of

◼   ► ruins which I think are probably very

◼   ► beautiful in real life but I seen

◼   ► pictures of them and generally I don't

◼   ► need to walk around a whole bunch of

◼   ► ruins I know there's a lot of culture

◼   ► and a lot of history and things like

◼   ► that and I love learning about that kind

◼   ► of stuff from the comfort of my own

◼   ► couch and so never is enough sorry

◼   ► Florida Mexico Machu Picchu and anywhere

◼   ► with monkeys how is that possibly one

◼   ► entry they seem like a little cluster

◼   ► like a group like an idea they all kind

◼   ► of went together in my mind

◼   ► so a hot weather dangerous resorts ruins

◼   ► and monkeys so that's that all sounds

◼   ► the same to you yeah cuz root the ruins

◼   ► sound dangerous too like I feel like I

◼   ► could get hurt or bit by a snake or

◼   ► something I'm not afraid of snakes but

◼   ► I'm afraid of very poisonous snakes and

◼   ► it seems like the very poisonous snakes

◼   ► would be in ruins or possibly something

◼   ► cursed don't want to encounter that but

◼   ► I'm sure stakes but I'm afraid of

◼   ► getting bitten by what well yeah I'm

◼   ► sure there's monkeys running around

◼   ► holding you know venomous snakes and

◼   ► throwing them they throw them at you

◼   ► that's how the snakes get to you

◼   ► obviously I know there just seems like

◼   ► there's just too much danger for me to

◼   ► ever want to actually vacation there wow

◼   ► I have nothing to add to that I don't

◼   ► even know where to add from this crazy

◼   ► Tower number to hear that Wow yep never

◼   ► is enough I will see that Florida I

◼   ► consider putting Florida on my list

◼   ► because it's also not really for me

◼   ► however you know compared to Arizona

◼   ► Florida while that it also has a lot of

◼   ► heat and a lot of crazy wildlife and

◼   ► what a crazy Florida is full of humidity

◼   ► it's that like wet so key grossie okay

◼   ► so so Florida yes Florida is indeed very

◼   ► very humid but the people in dry places

◼   ► like Arizona I don't sell they'll say

◼   ► well it's 115 degrees here but it's a

◼   ► dry heat you know everyone always says

◼   ► it's a dry heat it's not as bad and

◼   ► they're right a dry heat is not as bad

◼   ► as the crazy Florida heat however as hot

◼   ► as it is in Arizona is bad regardless of

◼   ► how dry it is like it is still really

◼   ► bad so Florida yes Florida is also

◼   ► really

◼   ► but horrible and that makes it bad - but

◼   ► Arizona people you you have nothing

◼   ► better to say like you you have no your

◼   ► honor but Florida here why are you

◼   ► bringing Arizona back into this you just

◼   ► keep wanting to beat them down

◼   ► reasonably my Arizona in my list in

◼   ► Florida didn't is because at least when

◼   ► you go to Florida you can find a high up

◼   ► hotel room with a view of the water that

◼   ► we want to actually go outside or go

◼   ► anywhere near the surface of the ground

◼   ► where all the crazy gun people and

◼   ► alligators are but you can at least stay

◼   ► in your nice hotel and look at the water

◼   ► and enjoy the breeze that is true if we

◼   ► did go to a wedding in Florida it was

◼   ► very very nice

◼   ► exactly and that's that's a place where

◼   ► we went in the winter and it was really

◼   ► nice to have like fresh warm air in the

◼   ► middle of the winter because it was more

◼   ► reasonable there I would not go to

◼   ► Florida anytime during the summer

◼   ► because they would be way too hot and

◼   ► horrible but that is a nice place to go

◼   ► in the winter if you just want to stay

◼   ► in a hotel and not do much else which

◼   ► does sound kind of like us actually I'm

◼   ► still keeping Florida on my list because

◼   ► I will go to Florida for an event that

◼   ► to me is not a vacation and that's why

◼   ► you have a void at your number three

◼   ► because so I will happily go to Florida

◼   ► when invited for an event or something

◼   ► like that

◼   ► okay that's out that but as in a choice

◼   ► to go to Florida generally no all right

◼   ► my number two is going back to my

◼   ► hometown for a high school reunion

◼   ► you're so bad at this list what is the

◼   ► bet that's a vacation yeah a one-time

◼   ► vacation high school reunions happen

◼   ► like three times ever

◼   ► you just country to yourself in one

◼   ► sentence that's fine I do what I want

◼   ► here man look good my pike so I haven't

◼   ► gone my ten-year reunion past how many

◼   ► years are your ten-year reunion and I'll

◼   ► tell you why you beat you we've gotten

◼   ► snake sorting by monkeys a much broader

◼   ► idea high school reunion really isn't

◼   ► events Marco doesn't want to attend

◼   ► podcast this is nice

◼   ► Kayson that's a vacation you know

◼   ► because some people considered a

◼   ► vacation I'm gonna go keep going you're

◼   ► ridiculous because these are events that

◼   ► you're saying you don't want to go to

◼   ► it's like saying like I don't want to go

◼   ► to my cousin's wedding like this isn't a

◼   ► vacation event that you have to travel

◼   ► to in another place it's not a vacation

◼   ► a vacation is something that you sit

◼   ► down and you plan and you decide we have

◼   ► nothing to do this weekend and we want

◼   ► to do something or this week or next

◼   ► month or first spring break your list

◼   ► and commit a mountain and an animal

◼   ► vacations are things that you plan to go

◼   ► to when you have nothing when no that is

◼   ► an event that is an event speaking at a

◼   ► conference is an event high school

◼   ► reunions is an event going to weddings

◼   ► is an event graduations event there is e

◼   ► these are events and obligations most of

◼   ► those things right this isn't the

◼   ► offense an obligations nightmare story

◼   ► nightmare vacations which you plan for

◼   ► leisure or leisure or however you want

◼   ► to say it the thing where you do or you

◼   ► hang out and you relax and you do

◼   ► something for fun that makes you happy

◼   ► because oh my god well no you're getting

◼   ► me all riled up because you're Julie

◼   ► think of a place that you would oh my

◼   ► gosh where would you not want to go on

◼   ► vacation uh a bar in Columbus Ohio that

◼   ► has people in my high school in it

◼   ► [Laughter]

◼   ► what quit anyway that's my number two

◼   ► [Laughter]

◼   ► what's your number one honey I don't

◼   ► know honey

◼   ► it's certainly not a high school reunion

◼   ► that only happens every five years that

◼   ► I wouldn't want to go to anyway what's

◼   ► your number one honey my number one

◼   ► nightmare vacation as in an event that I

◼   ► would plan and attend hmm

◼   ► I shouldn't say event I should say

◼   ► location Oh interesting you can cut that

◼   ► out that was a slip of the lip no I'm

◼   ► not cutting that up I don't it's not an

◼   ► event all right good night verification

◼   ► a place that I would plan to go to and

◼   ► enjoy some time there or not enjoy my

◼   ► number one is Disney Disney sounds like

◼   ► the worst oh you'd go there of our

◼   ► friends talk about going to Disney and

◼   ► everything that they talk about

◼   ► happening in Disney sounds terrible

◼   ► it just sounds terrible it is lines it

◼   ► is crowds its heat its people and giant

◼   ► character costumes which is slightly

◼   ► terrifying it's like you know I've been

◼   ► and I'm sure a little bit of Branson

◼   ► Missouri is in there too because they

◼   ► have that whole small world business

◼   ► going on so it just rolled into one

◼   ► giant aqua globe of just things not for

◼   ► you not fun no not fun yeah it's it's

◼   ► hard for it cuz like so many of our

◼   ► friends do go to Disney on a regular

◼   ► basis and enjoy it and tell us that we

◼   ► would like it or that we should go I

◼   ► would not land and every time they

◼   ► explained to us why we would like it and

◼   ► why it's not what we think the things

◼   ► they say are things that we don't like

◼   ► or would hate like it no one has ever

◼   ► made a good argument as to why we would

◼   ► like this they may they be convinced as

◼   ► to why they like it and that's fine as

◼   ► you mentioned it's at the start of the

◼   ► show people like different things but no

◼   ► one has ever

◼   ► it said anything about Disney or what

◼   ► it's like to actually go there that made

◼   ► it sound tempting for us and we we are

◼   ► it sounds terrible to go there with

◼   ► children because first of all you have

◼   ► to force them through all the crowds and

◼   ► the lines and the heat and the

◼   ► terrifying characters and the travel to

◼   ► get there to be in life and the travel

◼   ► to get there to begin with and then you

◼   ► either have to get there super early at

◼   ► the park or stay there for a really long

◼   ► time and there's all kinds of strange

◼   ► weirdo passes that don't seem to work

◼   ► the way they need to work to throw a

◼   ► whole bunch of money at the problem

◼   ► you have to like plan all of this stuff

◼   ► and have these silly little key fob e

◼   ► things all over the place that they're

◼   ► apparently some nice restaurants to go

◼   ► to but you have to go through all of the

◼   ► lines heat crowds and characters to get

◼   ► to the restaurants so why would I bother

◼   ► I can't go to a nice restaurant here

◼   ► without waiting online without going

◼   ► through all creepy characters without

◼   ► having all of this happen I have no

◼   ► heart connection to Disney whatsoever

◼   ► I really don't my son has really no

◼   ► heart connection to Disney yes we like

◼   ► to watch movies they are fine they're

◼   ► movies that's what they are I don't need

◼   ► to go get into the movie to enjoy it

◼   ► like I have no desire to that I see the

◼   ► movie I it's over I shut it off and I

◼   ► move on with my life I would not like

◼   ► Disney I just I wouldn't like it I've

◼   ► been there as a child I have very little

◼   ► memory of it I don't I don't think I had

◼   ► that much fun I mean I might have had

◼   ► some fun but I just remember it being

◼   ► hot I remember not wanting to walk and I

◼   ► remember waiting aligns so there you go

◼   ► and I remember goofy trying to bite my

◼   ► head at a restaurant and it was super

◼   ► awkward why did he do that I was a

◼   ► little girl didn't need to happen anyway

◼   ► probably like some poor high school kid

◼   ► in the summer job in that costume and I

◼   ► also feel bad for all the people who are

◼   ► working there right they all have to

◼   ► like sit in those sweltering costumes

◼   ► and like just everything surrounding the

◼   ► Disney I don't think I would like I I

◼   ► just don't know ride to me is worth a

◼   ► two-hour line nothing is like no ride to

◼   ► me is worth booking hours in advance and

◼   ► then trying to get back to it to go to

◼   ► it just if I wanted to go on rides I'll

◼   ► just go for a day at an amusement park

◼   ► and rainy days in amusement park

◼   ► are awesome actually rollercoasters in

◼   ► the rain amazing cuz they're not that

◼   ► scary but they're much better when the

◼   ► rains in your face is going to it's

◼   ► really very fun then but yeah I just

◼   ► yeah trams parking every I know

◼   ► everything about it yeah I think we are

◼   ► we are lucky in that our Sun is really

◼   ► has it really never gotten that

◼   ► interested in like the individual

◼   ► characters of the movies like he'll want

◼   ► to watch a movie a few times and then

◼   ► you know he'll be he'll like the movie

◼   ► for a little bit and then he'll be done

◼   ► with it he'll move on he doesn't get

◼   ► obsessed with the characters as much as

◼   ► a lot of kids do and so yeah we bought

◼   ► him some like little toys of things of

◼   ► characters for movies he likes and he

◼   ► likes it's like oh cool and then he

◼   ► moves on yeah yeah yeah so like we're

◼   ► lucky that like you know if your kids

◼   ► are super into it then I could see why

◼   ► you'd go that you know you were you'd

◼   ► endure all this stuff you know to give

◼   ► your kids a good time but why adults go

◼   ► there is for them for their own benefit

◼   ► is all for reasons that sound awful to

◼   ► me and like and I know we're getting the

◼   ► most feedback about this we're and we're

◼   ► gonna have the most of our friends

◼   ► telling us why we should do this and why

◼   ► we're all wrong about this

◼   ► I'm sorry folks never enough it sounds

◼   ► that what you're getting it sounds it

◼   ► sounds like it's not worth all the

◼   ► hassle and and also you know if we were

◼   ► if we were to go everybody has their

◼   ► tips about well it is horrible you're

◼   ► right unless you do tips XY and Z and

◼   ► everyone has a different list of those

◼   ► things and I know that in practice we

◼   ► wouldn't we would do something wrong we

◼   ► you know we would not do the tip

◼   ► correctly or we would not take the

◼   ► Fastpass Express line properly or

◼   ► whatever and like something we would do

◼   ► it wrong and then ever end we'd have a

◼   ► bad time and all these people who were

◼   ► telling us that we would love this would

◼   ► be like well you just did it wrong like

◼   ► I don't think it's just I don't want the

◼   ► possibility of going somewhere and just

◼   ► because I went there and I didn't do it

◼   ► right it was the reason I didn't want it

◼   ► didn't have fun I just want to be able

◼   ► to go somewhere and enjoy it for what it

◼   ► is I don't want to have to put in a

◼   ► whole bunch of research and work and

◼   ► like all of this

◼   ► overhead to have fun in a fake fun land

◼   ► yeah it seems like you can really have

◼   ► to try very hard to properly manage a

◼   ► successful Disney trip and I know there

◼   ► are people you can pay to help you

◼   ► manage it and even that sounds weird it

◼   ► sounds it just sounds like a waste of

◼   ► money to me like I really I wouldn't

◼   ► even feel good about throwing money at

◼   ► this problem because it doesn't sound

◼   ► like a great way for us to spend money

◼   ► in order to get back memories of

◼   ► enjoyment because I would spend the

◼   ► whole time

◼   ► having angry face the only thing I will

◼   ► say just agree with you on is you said

◼   ► you kind of said earlier that like you'd

◼   ► rather go there than other or you rather

◼   ► go go to just any amusement park I

◼   ► honestly I don't like any amusement

◼   ► parks if I'm going to go to one I would

◼   ► probably want to go to a really big

◼   ► well-run one and by most people

◼   ► description descriptions Disney is that

◼   ► so no see to me an amusement park is a

◼   ► getting get out you spent you go there

◼   ► you spend a couple hours there yeah but

◼   ► it's not like tons of it a week

◼   ► difference no and it's not like let me

◼   ► buy Fast Pass tickets to get on a line

◼   ► that other people are standing on for

◼   ► two hours it's literally like a

◼   ► 15-minute line to go do the log flume or

◼   ► whatever and then you're done like well

◼   ► but like you know smaller parks are

◼   ► often you know not very well-run and you

◼   ► know at least it does it have to be for

◼   ► you to go there you get your dippin dots

◼   ► you get online for the roller coaster

◼   ► you use the bathroom four or five times

◼   ► you watch the bird show and then the

◼   ► spinning plates and then you get to go

◼   ► home like it's done yeah see I would

◼   ► rather just not go to him using Park at

◼   ► all and just do anything else in the in

◼   ► the world than that anyway so that's

◼   ► your number one yeah that is my hard and

◼   ► strong number one Disney no matter what

◼   ► anyone tells me it's not gonna happen

◼   ► and I respect that you enjoy it because

◼   ► it's your vacation it's not mine so

◼   ► there we go my number one is similar to

◼   ► some of your ones that you've been

◼   ► sprinkling throughout your various

◼   ► horrible

◼   ► horribly structured list you have over

◼   ► there okay is it monkeys or Branson

◼   ► Missouri its rocks no it's similar

◼   ► that's actually my number one is the

◼   ► general category of hiking and camping

◼   ► Oh see now that's that's a proper mode

◼   ► you get battery on the list yes the

◼   ► general category of hiking and camping

◼   ► this also includes tangentially related

◼   ► things like mountain climbing RV touring

◼   ► or caravana depending where you are the

◼   ► idea of going in a vehicle that's

◼   ► basically a big camper van thing so

◼   ► pretty much any form of roughing it

◼   ► which is outside of your own home yeah

◼   ► exactly and and it's like pretty much

◼   ► like everything Brady doesn't vacation

◼   ► like Brady goes to nice resorts as well

◼   ► these are grinding mountains and stuff

◼   ► and like diving into volcanoes like I

◼   ► don't want to do any of that or any

◼   ► outdoor hike or or any kind of camping

◼   ► or anything like camping I really prefer

◼   ► the not camping yeah I really prefer the

◼   ► the basic modern amenities of like

◼   ► bathrooms and walls climate control when

◼   ► necessary screens to block out things

◼   ► like mosquitoes all night or monkey um I

◼   ► like being able to have like a small

◼   ► snack in my bag without having to worry

◼   ► about bears you know stuff like that

◼   ► like I'm hiking or monkeys yeah I guess

◼   ► yeah like just everything about that

◼   ► about like the whole like you know

◼   ► camping scene that just is incredibly

◼   ► unappealing to me we have done it and it

◼   ► was far too many toenails - yeah that

◼   ► was not great they grew back it's fine

◼   ► yeah and and hiking as like a trip like

◼   ► I don't mind like a day hike where which

◼   ► is basically a fancy word for walking in

◼   ► the woods that's cool

◼   ► but like when you're like carrying days

◼   ► worth of stuff in a backpack and then

◼   ► camping at night and stuff that is

◼   ► really not at all for me we have a large

◼   ► supply of camping gear and hiking

◼   ► backpacks for sale if anyone is

◼   ► interested please contact Marco hmm yeah

◼   ► use it once yes please

◼   ► oh they were heavily used but for a

◼   ► short time that's true

◼   ► heavily used once heavily used for four

◼   ► days yeah

◼   ► God impression bags mm-hmm we got it all

◼   ► mm-hmm all sorts of stuff that I hope to

◼   ► never use again cuz we love gear mm-hmm

◼   ► we do like that the gear shopping and

◼   ► everything was much better than the

◼   ► actual use of subset gear our son plays

◼   ► in the tent in our playroom does yep yep

◼   ► yes five-year-olds and pillows and

◼   ► popcorn while watching movies inside

◼   ► yeah

◼   ► hiking camping that whole the whole

◼   ► outdoor holding the whole outdoor

◼   ► adventure category nothing not at all

◼   ► for me at all for people who this is for

◼   ► more power to you I respect that but

◼   ► please never never bring me again so

◼   ► yeah I could I could get into some small

◼   ► versions of those so that's why I didn't

◼   ► put them on my list like I could do a

◼   ► little bit of camping here and there I

◼   ► think I think campfires are fun I like

◼   ► wood walking I feel proud of the trip

◼   ► that we did even though it was

◼   ► exhausting and tiring and I probably

◼   ► wouldn't do it again but I'm proud that

◼   ► we did do it yeah but that is that is a

◼   ► legit entry I'm surprised Disney didn't

◼   ► make your list because I had Disney on

◼   ► my consideration listen I got some would

◼   ► you like to put Disney in either your

◼   ► number two or number three slots I was

◼   ► rejected by the top four committee I I

◼   ► dispute the rejection still it doesn't

◼   ► matter I'm a committee of one I guess

◼   ► yeah third in number three I guess all

◼   ► right there we go I don't know if I'll

◼   ► see I don't know if I'd hated enough to

◼   ► put it at number one number one I'm just

◼   ► asking if you wanted to pop it in to

◼   ► number two or three since you had some

◼   ► openings I never wanna do that stuff