Top Four 8: Take-Out Food
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you ready I'm ready we're back top four
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chief I can't anyway was that was that
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our intro we're gonna use that we'll see
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anyway so this week I picked the topic
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again that's gonna be getting old saying
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that over and over and over because
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Marko never picks the topic but we I've
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decided to do a special for Thanksgiving
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since we just had our Halloween special
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and this one is a Halloween
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tinea says Halloween she says she says
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and so now I'm I'm infected you've
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become a Halloween person no I don't
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know what I am I'm confused
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yeah we got to work on that okay so
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since we did oh he wouldn't silence hops
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come here house all right I'll tell you
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all what we're doing d well Marco is
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financing comps we are going to talk
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he's so distracting he's looking hurt I
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heard that everything is loud okay so
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we're gonna do a special for
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Thanksgiving and I thought that we
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should talk about our favorite takeout
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food because everyone gets takeout food
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the day before Thanksgiving so because
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no one wants to have that food in their
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house too because they're cooking the
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big meal so you want something quick and
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easy that you don't have to clog up your
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refrigerator because it's full of food
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or you're traveling so you don't want to
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have a whole bunch of food laying around
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so I think this early week of the
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holiday week start kicking off
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Thanksgiving for America Markov is
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takeout food so yeah let's talk about
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our favorite takeout food yeah so this
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is actually a pretty broad topic I
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thought when you first mentioned this I
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thought could we do a whole episode on
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that and then I started to take notes on
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what I think my top ones would be and
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and I very very quickly filled up an
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entire iPad page with notes Wow yeah
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well the small iPad know okay yeah not
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the giant the giant one would have been
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impressive it would have been but I'm
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so so I have a lot of notes on this okay
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how do you want to do it aren't you good
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why don't you start with your
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well when we first started listening
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then we could only less three but I said
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we can open it up to possible lunch
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foods as well if we need to but I really
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don't think we need to I have my three
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favorite foods takeout food types all
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right for forum this is top four I have
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my four favorite takeout food types
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pretty set so do you want to go least
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let's do least favorite to favorite okay
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what do you have well so I have a whole
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I have like more way more than four on
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the list of course I don't know how much
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you want to talk about the ones that
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didn't really make the top four one of
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the ones that didn't make the top four
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for me was burritos it didn't make my
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top four either but I do have it on the
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Yesi and so my burritos made it for me
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likes it about number six or so I like
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burritos a line this would include
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places like Chipotle at that day I have
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little Baja Fresh stuff like that you
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know how fresh was so good yeah yeah
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they still exist like in terrible
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versions and rest stops but I haven't
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actually are they really that fresh then
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no they will they they they call
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something different the ones in
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restaurants are called Baja Fresh
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Express or something like that it's a
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variant on the name and I tried it once
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I would not recommend that you know cuz
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their whole thing was originally no can
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openers no freezers right so everything
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was pretty like yeah it was actually
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fresh yeah yeah this this place was was
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nothing like the the actual Baja Fresh
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places were when I last had them in
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Pittsburgh I used to prefer Baja Fresh
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way over to pull a yeah it's so much
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different and and Chipotle's good I've
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we actually had one of the first
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Chipotle's on my block growing up like
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it opened up while I was still in high
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school really well yeah it was it was
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yeah well because Columbus was a test
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market city for a lots of things it's
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very it's like it's like the most
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average city in America and it's fairly
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cheap to develop stuff in so generally
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the big chains like Panera was was visit
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was there that was the first time I ever
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had Panera wasn't was in Ohio
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exactly yeah generally chains they don't
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they don't often originate in Columbus
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but they usually hit Columbus pretty
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close to the beginning of their
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nationwide expansion for
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for that reason anyway so I would say
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burritos I like burritos but the reason
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they didn't rank high for me was that
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they just there just isn't that much
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variety at most burrito places for
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things that you would actually order
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it's like generally you figure out the
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one burrito that's your favorite and you
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get that pretty much every time and you
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really don't take it home do you it's
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more of like a lunchtime office takeout
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food if you know you're with a group of
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people or you want something quick or
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you're driving somewhere and you need to
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stop I we take we get Chipotle home
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because we never leave the house but
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other than that I really don't it's not
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like our dinner to take out kind of
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exactly so burritos for me are fairly
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low in lists only only because not
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because I don't like them but only
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because I just tend to get the same one
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every time and and it's it never really
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blows me what I've never had a burrito
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with you maybe with the exception of
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Baja Fresh yeah ten years ago but
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otherwise I mean I never get like a
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really great Brittan like from the
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places in California where everyone says
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California burritos are incredible and
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they're pretty good well you got to find
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the really good places yeah I'm all
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places in the city that's true yeah like
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you got to find the good halal cart you
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can't just get any halal cart because
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it's not the same right exactly
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alright so anyway I also had a whole
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bunch of stuff on here that we don't
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need to really go over ahead like the
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whole Boston Market category you had
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that on there I don't even write it down
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that well just it's an option for like
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dinner takeout it's like you know a
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place either Boston Market or places
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like Boston Market where it's like
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chicken and side dishes and stuff that
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you can pack up and take home the I
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didn't rank that highly enough I enjoyed
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please like that sometimes but it's not
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just not high enough I also I just write
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a lot of people get like KFC yeah like
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bucket the chicken to take home and eat
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yeah we don't do that
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no we're not really well that's I would
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classify that as really fast food like I
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think Fried Chicken it's fast food
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roasted chicken with fatty side dishes
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for some reason doesn't feel like fast
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food yeah but people don't really take
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home McDonald's but people will take
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home a bucket of chicken cuz they
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advertise it as like a family dinner
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that doesn't mean yeah I think it's
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often times one person even that bucket
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just kind of said anyway I also put
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burgers down kind of low on a list and
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again similar reason to bar
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I mean two burritos not because I don't
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like burgers but because it's kind of
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like a one-hit wonder you know like you
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get a good burger somewhere and yeah you
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can change up the toppings here there
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but like the variety possible isn't that
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wide and you never come away from it
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saying like this is an amazing burger or
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the best burger I've ever had it's
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always like yeah this is pretty good
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yeah it's never good places that are
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specifically burger places like or if
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they're a restaurant that happened to
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specialize in burgers like we used to
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have a restaurant in town that
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specialized in burgers that we would get
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takeout from but I think those are
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different and a little bit higher class
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status wise in the takeout food chain to
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the fast food burger but yeah they don't
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make the list for me either
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yeah I think they try to be special but
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they aren't always hmm well you got it
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cooking a burger as we know from
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watching Top Chef is actually kind of
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hard to do because you have to get the
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ratios right you have to get like the
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flavors right you can't just kind of
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slap anything on there and hope it's
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good because it doesn't work exactly all
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right so anyway moving up the list now
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so let's see I had oh I want to I want
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to mention the red menu Chinese places
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it's not on my list not at all but it
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used to be I guess because I grew up
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with getting really good read menu
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Chinese restaurant places on Saturday
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nights with my family and then we'd
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watch a movie so but that was a
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particularly very very good place that
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we went to and all of them since then
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have just been like salt attacks yeah
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those are those are also highly variable
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in quality yeah but I would say like the
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the ceiling of quality from those the
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best they can possibly get isn't that
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great like it's it's decent it's like
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it's like a good burger place it's like
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most great burger place is like the best
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you can get from a good burger place
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usually is decent pretty good you know
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but it doesn't like blow your mind how
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good it is and those type of places you
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really can't even judge the place where
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you go to get the takeout from because
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it could be like the grossest looking
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place and end up being good food oh yeah
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remember that one in where did you live
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Pittsburgh Pittsburgh
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yeah where that it was like that dirty
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little hole where that guy was just like
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sweating over that huge guy really good
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yeah it was so good yeah it was like and
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you get out of there for like six bucks
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and have no idea how it's even possible
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to get the amount of food you got for
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six bucks and it just but it's just one
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guy in like the tiniest closet ever of a
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room with no tables just like one guy
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behind a counter with a giant wok and it
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was good it was good yeah yeah so well
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it wasn't that good it was really cheap
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it wasn't it was remarkable for its
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cuteness not as good as anyway yeah
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maybe it wasn't that good yeah it was it
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was yeah remarkable but not good I was
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drugged so anyway I would say moving up
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the list now into my top four my number
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4 is Indian food oh that's your number 4
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yeah so it's it's not that it's my
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fourth least favorite taste necessarily
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it's it's about all overall factors and
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and as I move up you'll probably figure
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out why but for me it's so Indian food
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first of all it is the best if you're
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going for some kind of shared or buffet
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situation where if you have a bunch of
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people and and I know I know Indian food
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in reality is a very very large category
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I'm referring to like this stuff you get
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at an American Indian restaurant like
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it's you know it's gonna obviously be
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I'm pretty sure British Indian
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restaurants are the same but way better
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from like the two I went to I can say
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that's probably sounds about right but
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they're the same they have all the same
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dishes but they're just a lot better
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yeah but there's like there's like
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different like different regions of
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India like northern Indians of the
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versus oh that southern Indian food and
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what we usually have is only one of them
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and I forget which one unfortunately but
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anyway so I'm talking about you know the
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kind of like Indian food with the with
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the thick sweet curries and you know
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that use a lot of like the clarified
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butter and cream curries and everything
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that's that's the kind of things I'm
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referring to that's what we usually end
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up getting talking about what we usually
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order because Indian food is on my list
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but much higher than it is on yours okay
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that's fair but I don't know I could I
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could change cuz I panic in the middle
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of list making once we start talking
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about it but we just talked about when
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we order Indian food we order what we
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call the traffic light which is a red
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yellow and green curry yes Chenoa
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chicken tikka masala saag paneer and
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malai kofta yeah and those are is the
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trifecta of delicious oh definitely all
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well no you don't mix them together be
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like there on your each other on the
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plate you know you scoop with the naan
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my strategy for Indian food is rice or
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naan pick only one yeah you can't do
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yeah and you have a good mango lassi
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with that really fills you up
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super good I love when the places have
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the rice with the peas in it right peas
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in the rice they do it at some of them
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yeah yeah that's really good or sliced
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umm what do they put all that sliced
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almonds on and yeah yeah a little raisin
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sometimes I'm getting hungry yeah all
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right so so I I love Indian food but one
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thing about that that I think is
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interesting is that at least for our
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purposes it kind of has this feeling of
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being like a special thing rather than
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an everyday thing like you can get
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something like pizza every day for like
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you know three or four days straight and
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kinda not think about it or or doesn't
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whereas Indian food you feel it feels
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like an extravagance for some reason and
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and so it kind of feels like you can
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only do it maybe once a week at most and
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generally even less than that maybe once
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every two or three weeks
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yeah and it's better when company comes
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over because like you said it's it's the
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dishes come in like a large portion the
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way we like to order and when people who
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we normally don't eat Indian food with
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come and they have their own favorite
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dishes it's really great to try
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everyone's favorite dish without having
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to be committed to something that you
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know you wouldn't necessarily you might
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not end up liking but I mean everything
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I've had Indian food wise I have liked
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so that's not really a problem
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you still want my lentils well that's
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because there are lentils I mean they're
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delicious anyway so that's that's why
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Indian was number four for me it's that
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it's like it is kind of restricted to
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like special occasion status it's also
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it's not incredibly hard to find good
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Indian food but it's not that easy
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either there are a lot of places in
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good Indian food just simply isn't
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available really every place I've lived
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- that good Indian food
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well maybe not Cortland you never lived
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in the Midwest no I haven't except for
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in college but that's not really that
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far up I didn't even know Indian food
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about Indian food when we were in
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college right right so good thing
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because we would have been really
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miserable where we were anyway so that's
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my number for at least we had 10 cent
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wings my number four I have as Greek
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food oh I forgot about Greek that's
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interesting okay yeah I love good Greek
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food I like this is gonna be so
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embarrassed in a Greek restaurant when I
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was in high school and early college or
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maybe just early college can't remember
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but I remember just early college early
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college okay thanks you're the best for
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multiple summers I worked at a Greek
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restaurant and I am still embarrassed
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about saying the word gyro
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in a greekish way I don't know I just
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sorry saying gyro but I don't know it
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sounds it I feel silly even though I
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know that's really the right way to do
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this is a debate there's there's
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arguments on both sides of how it should
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be said when two Americans are talking
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to each other and other Americans about
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it you should say zero it's kind of like
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a combo of both so that way you offend
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everybody yes well yeah I guess if
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you're gonna be you can be an equal
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opportunity offender you can offend
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everybody equally that makes sense okay
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so so Jiro what was that it what how do
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you really say how do you just say my
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fake way yeah zero okay so getting these
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zero no they're so good I know I like
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well you know actually an actual gyro
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however we're gonna say it an actual
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gyro I always like the idea of it better
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than the actual practice of it I much
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prefer a gyro salad to a gyro in a PITA
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for two reasons first of all you know
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pitas are delicious but they're also
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giant and very filling and very calorie
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dense and so I I'm kind of not that into
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that and but the the permit the primary
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reason why I prefer the salad first of
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all the the sandwich version of it is
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usually very very poorly mixed so you
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have like one bite that's all
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one ingredient she like one bite it's
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all lettuce one bite it's all meat
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because like they're just they're not
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they're layered rather than blended and
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then put in so it's it's not easy to get
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a good blend of flavors and then
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secondarily the salad is way cleaner to
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eat which is usually the opposite but in
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this case like eating a gyro sandwich
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the whole thing like stuff is falling
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out of it you're getting the the grease
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from the meat and possibly the dressing
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all over your back hand is holding up
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the back of it like it just is creepy
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it's not that greasy because all the
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it's because it's it's cooked on a spit
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so all the rips down off of it and then
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they shave it so you're not left with
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like a greasy pile of meat so maybe it
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maybe maybe the stuff that coats the
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back hand is just like you know tomato
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water and it's all the water from the I
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don't want to say the wrong one to Zeki
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sauce yeah yeah yeah so so you get a
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good Greek restaurant with a good 2zq
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sauce cuz if you don't have a good
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flavorful 2zq sauce that's it's over but
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I mean come on there's so many great
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things in Greek food and you totally
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took my thunder and trying to describe
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the whole salad thing because we order
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gyro meat on top of a Greek salad which
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is wonderful and also you can control
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your portions with how much goes into
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the pita like you can scoop and I also
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like getting the Greek dressing and all
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the other Greek all the other vegetables
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that are in a Greek salad combined with
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the gyre with the gyro me in like a
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little tiny like bites of pita uh yeah
◼
►
that's just great yeah it's so much
◼
►
better than an actual taro sandwich but
◼
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I mean that's like the gateway drug to
◼
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Greek food right yeah totally
◼
►
it's that baklava and spanakopita which
◼
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is the spinach pie I also maybe hummus
◼
►
Oh Bahamas so and chickpea like you know
◼
►
marinated chickpeas and things but
◼
►
that's you know that's a lot now
◼
►
everybody has something yeah everyone
◼
►
has that kind of stuff and I've got
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lemon Oh soup if you haven't tried this
◼
►
you really should it's chicken lemon and
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►
rice in its like an egg base maybe oh
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I've never watched them make it at the
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restaurant I went to that IO that I
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worked at I mean it looks like there's
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something there's something like foggy
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that's not free well it could be the
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►
rice that they cans it up maybe
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anyway yeah it's delicious I was always
◼
►
a skeptic you got it forever and I and I
◼
►
didn't it's very lemony and very
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►
delicious and now Marco loves it
◼
►
yep you converted me on the algal amino
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►
soup and there's also this wonderful
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►
dessert that my brother really can't
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►
pronounce ever and it's really kind of
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►
it's a Gattaca boutique oh oh it's like
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►
a custard with phyllo dough kind of
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►
fluffy flakiness to it with drizzled
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►
with honey sauce that's also a really
◼
►
good dessert yeah there's a lot a lot of
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►
good things that Greek restaurants and a
◼
►
lot of great unpronounceable things it's
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►
all delicious and a lot of it's very
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►
vegetable and meat you like you don't
◼
►
have to do a lot of car B starches and
◼
►
the cheese is only you know some crumbly
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►
feta here and there so it's not so true
◼
►
yeah if you're eight here's Ryan I go
◼
►
like paleo and stuff I you'd probably
◼
►
have an easier time there than many of
◼
►
these types of places oh yeah you
◼
►
definitely would and the yogurts just
◼
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you know the your the sauces is a it's a
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►
mild yogurt so right and you know that
◼
►
dairy heavy and you could always leave
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►
that sauce off you know you don't have
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►
to go you don't have to coder on Greek
◼
►
dressing to is vinegar it's oil and
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►
vinegar base so yeah it's great and
◼
►
Greek is easy to take out it's easy to
◼
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have at home if you're gonna transport
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►
take it out take it out a lot of places
◼
►
have Greek takeout right don't they
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►
isn't it like a thing I have my there's
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►
like a Greek restaurant thing at other
◼
►
I have diners but those don't count do
◼
►
not count Greek diners as Greek food no
◼
►
there and greet diners are a respectable
◼
►
food choice in many conditions but it's
◼
►
not the same thing as a proper Greek
◼
►
restaurant or Greek takeout place
◼
►
yes yeah alright so moving on what's
◼
►
your oh do you want to do your number
◼
►
three my number three on how you want to
◼
►
do this okay so we both did our number
◼
►
four so my number three is Thai food
◼
►
interesting but I might be able to I we
◼
►
haven't had tired a lot recently and now
◼
►
because we are trying to do less carbs
◼
►
and stuff that's why I think it moved
◼
►
down my list from Indians my number two
◼
►
right now and so I I moved Thai even
◼
►
though I prefer the flavors and things
◼
►
in Thai food so like it's a lot of times
◼
►
it's our date night we
◼
►
we get time especially we go to a good
◼
►
Thai place that's a little bit further
◼
►
than we would like it to be it's like a
◼
►
half hour away it's a little bit further
◼
►
than we would like it to be it's totally
◼
►
worth the drive because they're at we've
◼
►
looked and as far as we have been able
◼
►
to find there is not a better one closer
◼
►
than that but bad Thai is real bad so
◼
►
here actually is really good
◼
►
I have Thai as my number two see I
◼
►
thought you would yeah so but that's
◼
►
that's what I'm explaining why it didn't
◼
►
make my number two is because right now
◼
►
I'm hesitant about it because of how
◼
►
carbee it is and I'm trying to do a lot
◼
►
less carbs and sugar and dairy and all
◼
►
I mean staying within let the general
◼
►
very broad category of Asian cuisine
◼
►
it's pretty good to minimize dairy and
◼
►
so then then the issue becomes carbs and
◼
►
you know hands and sugar stuff and salt
◼
►
and how you want to do those things but
◼
►
I would say I mean the things we usually
◼
►
get from Thai restaurants are usually
◼
►
what they have many other options that
◼
►
don't so you have options there anyway
◼
►
but I agree with what you said a minute
◼
►
ago which is one of the issues Thai
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►
faces which is it's incredibly variable
◼
►
in quality between between places you
◼
►
know like certain kinds of things like
◼
►
you know like burritos I mentioned
◼
►
earlier like the range that you that you
◼
►
generally find in the world of bad or
◼
►
mediocre burritos - great burritos in my
◼
►
opinion that range is fairly compressed
◼
►
relative to other types you know it's
◼
►
not it's not that huge of a range with
◼
►
Thai food I think the range is very big
◼
►
and the good thing is bad Thai food
◼
►
doesn't taste bad it usually is bland
◼
►
yeah I also don't like when Thai food
◼
►
when they get too nutty when they start
◼
►
throwing lots of nuts all over the place
◼
►
oh no it's well if they're cashews
◼
►
that's or peanuts that's perfectly
◼
►
cashews are fine I don't like when they
◼
►
throw the peanuts around i I don't well
◼
►
I don't order pad thai I don't like red
◼
►
Thai most people when they think Thai
◼
►
food think pad thai that isn't all that
◼
►
that's out there I'm a Tom Kha gai soup
◼
►
person it's like a lime unlike all these
◼
►
soups yeah it's like a lime coconut e
◼
►
chicken soup that's delicious and I'm
◼
►
you had chemo noodles yeah pad chemo but
◼
►
that's also different everywhere like
◼
►
they used for noodles I like the really
◼
►
wide almost translucent goopy noodles I
◼
►
don't know what they are I'm really
◼
►
that's offensive I'm so sorry I really
◼
►
think it's delicious I just don't know
◼
►
what they're called yeah we
◼
►
unfortunately are extremely uneducated
◼
►
in most of these non American food and
◼
►
we also like a basil fried rice and we
◼
►
like pineapple fried rice and and all
◼
►
the curries that they have there which
◼
►
are very different than Indian curries
◼
►
for anybody who doesn't get these type
◼
►
of takeout foods and you are interested
◼
►
in trying if you try one it does not
◼
►
taste anything like the other so if you
◼
►
don't like one at that you know try the
◼
►
other anyway because they're gonna be
◼
►
completely different right like if you
◼
►
don't like Indian curry or if you don't
◼
►
like curry powder then you know that
◼
►
doesn't mean you won't like Thai curry
◼
►
like these are all all three of those
◼
►
things are very different yes you know
◼
►
like chicken coated and curry powder has
◼
►
a very different flavor from Indian
◼
►
curry which has varied in flavor flavor
◼
►
and texture from Thai curry so yeah very
◼
►
different foods they could share one
◼
►
word so if we inspire anybody to go out
◼
►
and try new foods that you haven't tried
◼
►
go forth and try yes boldly yes but I
◼
►
would say for me Thai food I would say
◼
►
that the when it's good that it is the
◼
►
best for me it is my number one for for
◼
►
taste when it is good Thai food that's
◼
►
true a good crunchy spring roll or a
◼
►
fantastic red curry I mean come on oh
◼
►
yes red curry you're convincing me and
◼
►
fried rice hi iced tea I like a fast
◼
►
food with its own drink as well that
◼
►
really sells me because Indian food has
◼
►
a delicious mango lassi and Thai food
◼
►
has a Thai iced tea Thai iced teas are
◼
►
one of those things that you try it the
◼
►
first time because you're like oh this
◼
►
is interesting what is this Thai I see
◼
►
you try it and you're like I don't think
◼
►
I don't like it I'm not weird sure if I
◼
►
I don't know if I like this and then you
◼
►
take another sip of it you're like I'm
◼
►
still not sure I like this and then you
◼
►
finish the whole thing and you're still
◼
►
not quite sure you you like it and then
◼
►
the next time you can
◼
►
not order another one and you're like oh
◼
►
this is my favorite drink like it just
◼
►
that's everyone that I've talked to you
◼
►
has had that transition when it comes to
◼
►
Thai iced tea because it's so delicious
◼
►
after you've had it like a full one and
◼
►
decided it was delicious
◼
►
I've never met anyone that took one sip
◼
►
of Thai iced tea and was like this is
◼
►
amazing it was like I'm not sure I like
◼
►
this I've also never had anybody take
◼
►
one sip and say I hate this and I don't
◼
►
want any others and like I don't want
◼
►
any more you know you just it you take a
◼
►
little thing you're like after a while
◼
►
the aftertaste makes you want to drink
◼
►
more sounds like it's there pretty
◼
►
strong in in dairy and sugar so you know
◼
►
you can put a lot of dairy and sugar and
◼
►
pretty much any flavor and most people
◼
►
will like that flavor
◼
►
okay I'm going back diet restrictions
◼
►
aside I'm moving Thai up to my number to
◼
►
an Indian down all right so you have
◼
►
some coherence now yeah ooh I might even
◼
►
you know float up to number one cuz I do
◼
►
like I do like a takeout with a drink
◼
►
see but but might what's keeping it from
◼
►
number one for me is what I said earlier
◼
►
that you know the the quality range is
◼
►
huge well and you can't have it all the
◼
►
time and exactly so I have that here too
◼
►
it's the same thing I said it about
◼
►
Indian food which is like it doesn't
◼
►
feel right for some reason to have Thai
◼
►
food every day even though yeah that's
◼
►
my theme is in the richness of it it I
◼
►
know but I don't think there's any
◼
►
logical basis for that that's just how I
◼
►
feel like it just seems like Thai and
◼
►
Indian are like these special things for
◼
►
some reason and that is that makes no
◼
►
sense like logical it makes no sense
◼
►
there's no reason why those should be
◼
►
special occasion of foods and something
◼
►
like pizza shouldn't be there there's no
◼
►
reason for that but for some reason
◼
►
well if we had like a good agent fusion
◼
►
kind of place around I would eat like a
◼
►
variety of different Asian cuisines like
◼
►
every day if I you know I could I'd not
◼
►
sushi though sorry all you sushi people
◼
►
and yes we have had good sushi everyone
◼
►
says well you haven't had good sushi so
◼
►
that's why you don't like sushi I like
◼
►
fish I am a seafood eater and I do not
◼
►
care for sushi there's just a flavor in
◼
►
it that I just don't care for it's just
◼
►
not it's not my thing but almost every
◼
►
other Asian cuisine I think we are are
◼
►
pretty into yeah we're into many of them
◼
►
but yeah we neither of us like sushi so
◼
►
sorry sushi people we yeah really say
◼
►
anything more about it cuz I'm sorry
◼
►
yeah Japanese and sushi in general I I
◼
►
have a tough time with unless I do like
◼
►
ramen now yeah is ramen classified as
◼
►
Japanese cuisine neither of us know
◼
►
anything about Japanese cuisine however
◼
►
I'm pretty sure it is it is well I like
◼
►
a very specific type of ramen and it's
◼
►
and you asked for half the ingredients
◼
►
to be removed yeah and some other ones
◼
►
Oden I like the bok choy yeah I don't
◼
►
like the fish cake fair enough okay
◼
►
and so my number 3 which I skipped over
◼
►
because we because of our order here my
◼
►
oh no I'm curious what your number 1 is
◼
►
so don't throw in a creepy lunch food
◼
►
you are the means I know I see your
◼
►
smile I see your smirk I keep I can veto
◼
►
ahh I honestly don't know you mean but
◼
►
anyway number it so number 4 is Indian
◼
►
number 3 is pizza number 2 is Thai so
◼
►
why is Pizza number 3 for me it with a
◼
►
good thing about pizza is that it does
◼
►
feel acceptable to have you know
◼
►
multiple times a week and and so it's it
◼
►
feels acceptable of you to have multiple
◼
►
times yeah I have pizza guilt when we
◼
►
accidentally don't remember to cook or
◼
►
make meals or anything we have to go get
◼
►
pizza it's fine I feel so guilty
◼
►
there's so and pizza also there's
◼
►
there's a lot of variety at a pizza
◼
►
but within a like a pizza place usually
◼
►
has a relatively small number of forms
◼
►
that this that the stuff can take that
◼
►
you get but what is in or on those
◼
►
things can be highly variable so it's
◼
►
like first we need to say we are very
◼
►
lucky where we live because we are
◼
►
surrounded by amazing amazing pizza and
◼
►
even our worst pizza is better than most
◼
►
people's best pizza that is true so we
◼
►
have exceptional pizza in our area that
◼
►
it can make our list as high as it is
◼
►
because I believe my pizza I have right
◼
►
now at number one even though I totally
◼
►
always feel guilty about eating it but
◼
►
we need to talk about something about
◼
►
pizza it's not just Italian food we're
◼
►
talking about pizza right
◼
►
because there's also calzone restaurants
◼
►
around here that like are they also sell
◼
►
pizza but there are places that are way
◼
►
better at calzones which are very
◼
►
different that's like a separate thing
◼
►
like like like I know the food like
◼
►
there are separate calzone restaurants
◼
►
well the calzone places will often sell
◼
►
pizza also but there are placed pizza
◼
►
places that are better at calzone than
◼
►
they are a pizza okay I guess that makes
◼
►
I feel like you don't go to the same
◼
►
pizza place if you want a calzone or if
◼
►
you that you is you know the same place
◼
►
that you want I'm saying that's wrong
◼
►
you don't go to the same place where you
◼
►
get your best pizza and your best
◼
►
calzone they're usually two different
◼
►
places that's interesting okay does
◼
►
anybody ever actually want a calzone oh
◼
►
yeah when you find a good place you
◼
►
really want a calzone and we had it yeah
◼
►
remember I brought you the satellite
◼
►
Pizza Island yeah I don't know to me
◼
►
like I always they made a damn good
◼
►
calzone it was amazing
◼
►
a seat to me I think it's easier to make
◼
►
a good calzone than to make a good pizza
◼
►
no no no because you got to get the
◼
►
ratio right inside you have to get the
◼
►
fluffiness level you can't have the
◼
►
dough too thick you have to have a
◼
►
really good marinara to like pour on the
◼
►
top and you it just has to have the
◼
►
right ratio of I'm gonna say this weird
◼
►
deal with it the mozzarella - the
◼
►
ricotta it has to be a good ratio inside
◼
►
with the filling and it has to be like
◼
►
salted the right way it can't be like a
◼
►
shredded cheese that there that's put in
◼
►
there you can't cheap out like there's a
◼
►
lot and and it can't be burnt you know
◼
►
and it has to be a little bit bubbly
◼
►
it's amazing and the good calzone places
◼
►
always have the best that police okay
◼
►
cuz that sort of thing that's it's well
◼
►
because they use the same dough it's the
◼
►
same dog that wraps the filling of the
◼
►
cow like that wraps the calzones as it
◼
►
is to make the zeppoles does that please
◼
►
just don't have any filling and they're
◼
►
coated in powdered sugar coz I mean
◼
►
every culture has their fried dough
◼
►
of course yeah you got you got to have
◼
►
your fried dough so I wanted to classify
◼
►
want to clarify that that the calzone
◼
►
place is separate than the pizza place
◼
►
now for pizza places I also wanted to
◼
►
talk about this is serious I know this
◼
►
is I mean come on Long Island New York
◼
►
area that we're all about the pizza so I
◼
►
need to talk about the garlic knot
◼
►
hmm now garlic knots with your pizza or
◼
►
not because not or not because yeah
◼
►
because some places you know it's just
◼
►
like balls of dough they don't do a good
◼
►
garlic knot but other places do a great
◼
►
garlic knot but you're already getting
◼
►
so much bread and stuff with your pizza
◼
►
so what do you do it is that is a
◼
►
difficult choice and it just it depends
◼
►
highly on whether your pizza place of
◼
►
choice makes good garlic knots and in my
◼
►
experience most places don't we had a
◼
►
place that put garlic knots on the crust
◼
►
that is insane yeah it was like four or
◼
►
three and a half garlic knots per slice
◼
►
of pizza see now I come from the land of
◼
►
the Midwest which is the land of putting
◼
►
crazy stuff in and under and between
◼
►
pizza because the pizza itself is
◼
►
usually pretty mediocre
◼
►
so the idea is you get you know the
◼
►
stuffed crust where you get like you
◼
►
know the the I don't know put wings in
◼
►
the crust god knows what they're crust
◼
►
it's just an addition so you can get a
◼
►
whole pie and you get garlic knots that
◼
►
surround the pie so you don't have to
◼
►
order both it's not it was a thing it
◼
►
happened when I was in high school it
◼
►
was a strange time my favorite as an
◼
►
aside here my favorite thing is when you
◼
►
see like a pizza ad for a place like
◼
►
Pizza Hut or whatever we want to do we
◼
►
are not talking about Pizza Hut no I'm
◼
►
just saying for the people out there I'm
◼
►
sorry if Pizza Hut and Domino's and
◼
►
stuff for the only or Sbarro is the only
◼
►
thing you have to associate with your
◼
►
takeout pizza this is not what we are
◼
►
talking about it is a completely
◼
►
different food yeah and I cannot wait
◼
►
for all of you who have never
◼
►
experienced New York Pizza to come to
◼
►
New York and experience it because it is
◼
►
amazing yeah yeah but yeah anyway I love
◼
►
when the when you see like these
◼
►
commercials for these big pizza chains
◼
►
and they would say you know you get like
◼
►
the the two pies with toppings and then
◼
►
they say make it a meal by adding wings
◼
►
it's not already a man like breadsticks
◼
►
and two liters of soda that's currently
◼
►
that makes it a meal like oh now it's
◼
►
before I thought it was a snack right
◼
►
yeah I guess the pizza is the side dish
◼
►
anyway people are people are not always
◼
►
healthy but anyway so yeah for me pizza
◼
►
is pizza is the default for dinner not
◼
►
necessarily for lunch but it's a it's
◼
►
the default for dinner which is if you
◼
►
can't figure out what else to get just
◼
►
get pizza see I'll always like a slice
◼
►
I'll always eat a slice of pizza if
◼
►
someone says we're having pizza we could
◼
►
all agree on pizza pretty much because
◼
►
it's so it's so easy and good to find
◼
►
something you love on it and it's
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usually extremely tasty like I've never
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had I think that that's why I would say
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it's my number one because I feel like
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most places that we go we can find a
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we even fell in love with pizza and
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Pittsburgh yeah I found the right place
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oh good as long as you go to a place
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that is actually making their pizza and
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cares a little bit about it even outside
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of the New York metro area you can find
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really good pizza yeah yeah like good
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pizza is not only in New York it's just
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more common in New York right well I
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think like major cities will often have
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like a couple different competitive
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pizza places that you can find yourself
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a good pie or a good slice yeah
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gotta go to Aiello's if you're in
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Pittsburgh anyway so so that was your
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number one right it was you got to get
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the good pizza otherwise there's a hot
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ring of garbage I think it's a circle of
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anyway so yeah it is hot circle of
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garbage yeah it's like eating a hot
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circle of garbage my number so if if we
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were restricting it to only dinner okay
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then pizza might might be my number one
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for all those reasons
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wait so okay ready give me your dinner
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list dinner would be maybe burgers you
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forgot about Greek originally so you can
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add that back in I think read better for
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lunch okay so okay my generalist my
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dinner menu would be I think just off
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unprepared now I think you I think it
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would be I just took away one thing you
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just got to move some stuff up the list
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and then yes well so I think it would be
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burgers Indian Thai pizza so with pizza
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okay now my dinner list no you're not in
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my overall list huh melding lunch and
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dinner together into one category what I
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thought we were doing I changed it up on
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you number four Indian number three
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Pizza number two Thai
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number one the lunch deli slash sandwich
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place I mean yeah I if we were doing
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lunch I think lunch is different than
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dinner you have to have a separate lunch
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and it I don't care what I said before
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you have to have it because otherwise is
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it a whole different discussion I have
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whole different things to add to this
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list I don't want any of these things
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I wanted a totally different list for
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lunch many of like I think like Indian
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and Thai well Indians a little heavy I
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mean you can do it but you got to be
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►
careful no Indiana's feels more dinner
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but I often find ty Franck
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but Panera needs to be thrown in there
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maybe right so cuz they're like a suit
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or I shouldn't say Panera but I should
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say like soup sandwich places which is
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different than the deli well so I have
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this kind of as one category because
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there's a lot of overlap so maybe this
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is my number one this is this is the
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lunch deli slash sandwich place now I
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►
have to clarify similar to our pizza
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►
disclaimer there are certain places that
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I am explicitly not including that
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includes subway and Quiznos and anything
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like subway or Quiznos those places
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►
they're just terrible
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►
I mean I've it's not that I've never had
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them I've had them plenty of times
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►
because I haven't always lived in a
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place with good sandwiches I've had I've
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►
had subway and Quiznos frequently or
◼
►
often mmm a lot and you're talking about
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►
the East Coast deli yeah yes because
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they have them up in Boston Kelly from
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the deli they even had some in
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►
Pittsburgh like they were either pretty
◼
►
easy to find in Pittsburgh I started
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►
going one every day yeah so you can find
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►
them yeah they do exist the deli that
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just you know the kind of place that
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makes sandwiches and whatever sandwich
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►
you want oftentimes but not always the
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►
bagel place because because or some kind
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of bakery because they will often put
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►
these sandwiches on the bread or bagels
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►
that they're baking I do include Panera
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►
and bruger's and in this category okay
◼
►
they aren't necessarily the best
◼
►
examples but that's you can find that
◼
►
did yeah yeah I would exclude Einstein
◼
►
bagels because I have every time I've
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►
been to one I've been disappointed by it
◼
►
yeah you you and your New York stuff
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►
it's all awesome but I would say Panera
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►
and bruger's are in Einstein subway and
◼
►
Quiznos are out but generally you're
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►
looking for a place it isn't the chain
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►
now usually the non chain places are
◼
►
substantially different and better but
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►
there is still a lot of the road also
◼
►
because when they cut the deli meat they
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►
actually have a deli slicer in the place
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►
and they exactly slice it from the meat
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►
log instead of having it you know pre
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►
sliced slimy slimy slabs better bit more
◼
►
shit yeah like you get you go to Subway
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►
you got like exactly the four slices
◼
►
they're always so thick if you really
◼
►
want a good deli sandwich you have to
◼
►
get it like so thin that it's
◼
►
practically like falling apart like it's
◼
►
confetti it's meat confetti and it's so
◼
►
good yeah and let's let's not even talk
◼
►
about the subway cheese tessellation
◼
►
ripoff ah I know total complete bytes
◼
►
without cheese because no subway is an
◼
►
expert in giving you as little as
◼
►
possible for your money and making it
◼
►
like I'm convinced that most people who
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►
assemble deli sandwiches for a living
◼
►
including all these chain places but
◼
►
even a lot of actual like you know
◼
►
defend delis it seems like most of the
◼
►
people who assemble these sandwiches
◼
►
don't eat deli sandwiches
◼
►
yeah the sandwiches are assembled by the
◼
►
people that eat deli sandwiches right
◼
►
like it's similar to how like like we
◼
►
have to go to this place in Manhattan
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►
called called chicken deli on 28th
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►
Street yeah 28 chicken goat and and we
◼
►
always knew it was a fantastic deli in
◼
►
almost every regard but we always knew
◼
►
don't get mustard on the sandwich
◼
►
because the people who who would
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►
construct the sandwich every day you can
◼
►
just tell that they didn't eat mustard
◼
►
themselves because they would apply an
◼
►
amount of mustard that like in fact if
◼
►
that were mayonnaise it would be
◼
►
excessive and for mustard it's like oh
◼
►
my god it's like overpowering craziness
◼
►
so you usually like you know just if you
◼
►
get a mustard sandwich just ask from the
◼
►
side and you apply it yourself when you
◼
►
get back to the office so okay there are
◼
►
things like that you got to learn every
◼
►
place you go right exactly exactly so
◼
►
and everything else about that deli was
◼
►
great except for the mustard and so you
◼
►
know when it comes to these places it
◼
►
just seems like many of them they'll do
◼
►
things like you mentioned like they'll
◼
►
slice the meat too thick or rather than
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►
laying it laying each piece of
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►
like a half fold over so you get the
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►
kind of like alternating half fold like
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►
stack that looks all pretty and has like
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►
the little ruffles in the side that's
◼
►
the good way to do it sometimes they
◼
►
will do it they'll just like lay that
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►
lay the slices flat in a stack oh and
◼
►
then fold them over oh it's oh yeah see
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►
this is the kind of thing like if you go
◼
►
to a place like bruger's or Panera or
◼
►
you know any deli getting the right
◼
►
employee matters law but anyway that
◼
►
said I I would say that the the
◼
►
variability with with minor things like
◼
►
that aside the variability that you get
◼
►
between delis is actually not that big
◼
►
compared to these other options so you
◼
►
can generally find a decent deli or
◼
►
sandwich place in most places and you
◼
►
can get them to construct a sandwich
◼
►
that you're used to so you're not really
◼
►
reliant on a menu per se like if you
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►
like let's say you know you like pepper
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►
Turkey with pepper jack cheese on a
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►
croissant mmm this is one of us like
◼
►
that I don't know one of us might like
◼
►
that but if you like that you could
◼
►
probably get something similar to that
◼
►
at most any deli the same thing if you
◼
►
like it she can call it sandwich with
◼
►
certain toppings on it you know you can
◼
►
get that recreated for the most part at
◼
►
various different places and it won't be
◼
►
so different that you know you won't
◼
►
like it right and and delis also they
◼
►
have the great advantage that they they
◼
►
also don't feel weird getting them every
◼
►
day like you can go to it you can go to
◼
►
the same deli for lunch every day I've
◼
►
done this Melton most of my adult career
◼
►
you can go to the same deli every day
◼
►
and it's not that ridiculous
◼
►
and no it's great because they know your
◼
►
order and there's always regulars
◼
►
everyone goes to the same daily everyday
◼
►
exactly and and you know and compare you
◼
►
know you could also and we've done this
◼
►
in at various bands as well you could
◼
►
also just go to the grocery store and
◼
►
buy deli meat and buy bread and make
◼
►
your own sandwiches at home and and
◼
►
there are a lot of advantages to that
◼
►
but when you go to a deli it's fresh
◼
►
sliced every day for you it's at least
◼
►
any reasonable deli not Subway but hey
◼
►
do not walk out of a deli if you see a
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►
whole bunch of pre sliced deli meat
◼
►
sitting in their shelf like if you see
◼
►
that sitting around just leave and go
◼
►
find a different deli or if the deli
◼
►
smells like fish yes really feeling like
◼
►
cow it shouldn't smell like it should at
◼
►
most smell like a fresh-baked bagel well
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►
that's what I always tell you at seafood
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►
restaurants if you walk into a seafood
◼
►
restaurant and it smells like fish
◼
►
you walk out yeah like good rule it
◼
►
should never ever ever smell like fish
◼
►
cuz fresh fish does not smell bad yeah
◼
►
so anyway so yeah a deli is in my
◼
►
opinion just overall the best takeout
◼
►
food but you can't get it for dinner
◼
►
that there's not an open past like two
◼
►
o'clock yeah that's that's the big
◼
►
problem is that they it is a lunch only
◼
►
option breakfast they do eggs that's
◼
►
true they did they do serve every daily
◼
►
is open early yeah but and there's also
◼
►
like you know compared to buying stuff
◼
►
at home there's a lot of specialty
◼
►
things that a deli will have that you
◼
►
either can't easily keep on hand at home
◼
►
or that you probably wouldn't keep on
◼
►
hand at home so things like really weird
◼
►
cheese's like we probably wouldn't buy
◼
►
an entire package of pepperjack
◼
►
but we're okay getting a slice of pepper
◼
►
jack on your sandwich every day okay now
◼
►
we got a distinct we got to make a
◼
►
distinction here because we happen to go
◼
►
to a great deli that is also very good
◼
►
at making bagels so they're not only a
◼
►
bagel shop they're also a full deli
◼
►
there are a lot of those around here
◼
►
because they're pretty conducive to each
◼
►
other because a lot of people like to
◼
►
have their bagel for breakfast or have
◼
►
lunch food on a bagel like right right
◼
►
you have that option or you have the
◼
►
deli that just has like stacks of rolls
◼
►
that they put everything on and then
◼
►
they import their bagels from somewhere
◼
►
else where and that's that's fair you
◼
►
know warm bagel sandwich like when the
◼
►
bagels are fresh-baked I mean there's
◼
►
nothing like it it's amazing
◼
►
oh yeah and that's that's pretty hard to
◼
►
get usually because the bagels are not
◼
►
fresh-baked near lunchtime but you know
◼
►
you can find it if you're lucky but yes
◼
►
so anyway that's what that's why number
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►
one is the lunch Dolly's sandwich place
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►
which is often a bagel place
◼
►
but that doesn't count for our take out
◼
►
in substitution for pre Thanksgiving
◼
►
dinner food right so for dinners it's
◼
►
Thai all right Thai food the highs are
◼
►
the highest you know like when when Thai
◼
►
food is is great it is my favorite
◼
►
flavor and which one is the lows of the
◼
►
lowest I think maybe pizza mmm
◼
►
bad pizza is really bad like like a hot
◼
►
cement carpet like bad Thai Indian food
◼
►
is usually just bland yeah but still
◼
►
like bad pizza is like uh nap it's like
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►
greasy or you know I don't know bad
◼
►
pizza can be really quite unappetizing I
◼
►
think but I mean I guess so could a bad
◼
►
deli sandwich like I said like a Subway
◼
►
sandwich is uh hey are good deli when
◼
►
they slice my meat stick it is not
◼
►
appetizing yeah well that's that's why
◼
►
you got to get chicken so it's like
◼
►
biting into a bouncy ball that's yes
◼
►
this is one of the reasons I get chicken
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►
salad but even chicken salad can be
◼
►
really bad right but I know at this
◼
►
place it's consistently always gonna be
◼
►
man easy right no I mean that's the I'm
◼
►
a chicken salads not pickin because like
◼
►
you know you with deli meat you're
◼
►
generally seeing the same meat you know
◼
►
most places will have Boar's Head around
◼
►
here like you know like you're generally
◼
►
having the same meats available in most
◼
►
delis but stuff like chicken salad can
◼
►
vary because they usually make it there
◼
►
or at least they buy it in but they're
◼
►
buying it from different layers I'm
◼
►
really bad chicken cutlet sandwich to is
◼
►
yeah like when the meat sauce in Yui and
◼
►
disgusting yeah that's true and they
◼
►
they make it too thick like the chicken
◼
►
go laters take this like fry a chicken
◼
►
breast you're like no you need to slice
◼
►
that thin and pound it and then bread it
◼
►
like there's a lot to do it's a lot of
◼
►
work stick some bread on a chicken and
◼
►
call it a chicken cutlet I mean what do
◼
►
you oh my god all right are we done did
◼
►
we go through both of our lists yeah I
◼
►
have starting at number one pizza Thai
◼
►
Indian Greek cool yep so happy ordering
◼
►
everybody for pre Thanksgiving and Happy
◼
►
traveling yeah yeah don't look at me
◼
►
like that you offer up any kind of
◼
►
clothing help here that's that no I just
◼
►
let you go it's way better to just have
◼
►
you awkwardly do the entire outro
◼
►
yourself it's just so painful it's the
◼
►
best I don't know why you do this to me