Top Four 14: Pizza Toppings 🍕
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welcome back to top for everybody hey
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this is us we are continuing the food
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theme for at least one more episode I
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know we've done a lot of food recently
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so much food but it's such a good area
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for for these topics and we're gonna
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move into something else probably not
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probably the next show but one more food
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topic for now and that is pizza toppings
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cuz we wanted to kind of follow up
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follow out to follow in follow the trend
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of annoying somebody with our food
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choices and usually that somebody is
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John siracusa to bridge some of the
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podcasting world here I'm not sure this
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is gonna put a lot of bridges to be
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honest now we'll see how it goes
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you think there's gonna be some fire
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involved so John has strong opinions on
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what makes the like what is like the
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canonical set of flank type X so if
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you've set with us for choosing bagel
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flavors that were not like among the the
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official old-school New York bagel
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flavors like the ISO cheese bagel and so
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I expect he will have a similar issue if
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we choose any pizza toppings I'm gonna
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give it an ulcer like I a maybe yeah so
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I suspect you any any like
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non-traditional pizza toppings he's
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going to have a big problem with so this
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should be interesting but see anything
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can go in a pizza because it's personal
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you call up and you order pizza and you
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put what you want on it so I think that
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the argument that there are classic
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pizza toppings is kind of that's kind of
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weak yeah well also I think we were
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helped here by the fact that like you
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know bagel stores you could go into a
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bagel store on Long Island in 1995 and
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there be like you know what eight
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flavors maybe like there wouldn't be a
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ton of flavors whereas Pizza has always
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like you go to a pizza place and there's
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probably way more options than that even
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back then let alone now as we discovered
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new new and greater Pizza Sciences like
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I think I think pizza even by like old
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New York definition has just always had
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more variety available yep yep I
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actually had an uncle that owned a pizza
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place and his first few pies were
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horrible but then he got pretty good at
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yeah I mean if it's anything like us
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when we cook when we try to make pizza
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that's totally totally understandable
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what we make is not pizza I don't know
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what that is it's calzones
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it's a pile of garbage yes that just
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happens to taste kind of delicious half
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of which is burned on the bottom of the
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oven yeah that part we leave in the oven
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and just let it bake out all right so
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all right the rules now because usually
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we talk about our fantasy situations but
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I'm going to bring it back to reality
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for this and say that our rules are kind
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of based on realistic availability and
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execution an example only one place
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makes you know a certain type of pizza
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good and it's far away so does that move
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it up or down your list because you
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can't get it all the time but you prefer
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those toppings on that pizza from that
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that's totally legit but it has to stay
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within that so like you might not like a
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certain type of topping from another
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place because they just don't have a
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better they have a bad ingredient or
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they prepare it differently but you have
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to take into account realistic
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availability combos are allowed but each
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combo is its own entry mm-hmm so if you
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have like two different toppings on one
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pizza it's not you know you're not
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saying topping a and topping B or my
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like one and two it's the combination of
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those toppings that then make the pizza
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that you are getting right so that those
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are your entries so entries could
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include multiple toppings or single
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toppings okay when you start off what is
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your number four yeah we definitely
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should move up okay my number four has a
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question mark this is top four and we
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can't stick to a topic five four well
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you win the prize all right my top my
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number four choice is the broccoli and
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onion pizza from Aiello's in Pittsburgh
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all right that's a very good pick but
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okay so let me talk we will probably
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never have this pizza again mm-hmm we
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previously had a lot of this pizza when
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we lived in Pittsburgh and I'm very
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envious of the people who currently live
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in Pittsburgh and get to enjoy this
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because uh so it's a broccoli and kind
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of like sauteed onions sauteed but they
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don't take it to a point where it starts
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to get brown at all they're kind of like
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translucent sweet delicious little onion
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bits um with broccoli that also is not
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taken to the point of dehydration it's
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just it is cooked perfectly puffed in
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like a nice little fluffy bed of white
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pizza yeah it's a white pizza base it's
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very important there's no red sauce on
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this pizza and this is totally allowed
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oh yeah that that is an option a white
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base is totally available like in most
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of New York so anywhere now yeah I mean
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I bet John could even get one in
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Sbarro's also I want to say like deep
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dish or Sicilian is up for a game you
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know it's in the running here for anyone
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who wants to pick that any one being the
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two of us and the people who contact us
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on Twitter yeah whoo I like to hear
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their opinions because it shows they're
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listening to the show anyway so oh this
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broccoli and onion pizza is just
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absolutely divine everything that they
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do with these toppings at this pizza
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place just make it so good now it is my
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number four regardless of its it's you
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know inaccessible availability here
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because I also like broccoli and onion
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on other pizzas the trick though is
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onion is very hard to get right yes and
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so is broccoli because sometimes the
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broccoli slices that even we get now
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because we regularly get a broccoli
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slice broccoli white slice it is often
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overdone and a little bit dehydrated and
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a little bit burnt and crispy and weird
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and that's when it gets bitter yeah but
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when done right I like it and I like the
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I yellows one so much that it Trump's
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all of other toppings so I actually kind
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of had a scoring well all on the top
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except for the three there above this in
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your list yeah but I'm saying like other
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toppings except for three there about no
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so I actually had a scoring method this
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time I focused and I added plus one two
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things and minus one two things based on
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how I felt about them Wow
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okay so with the ranking system I had
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even the minus one for the low
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availability at Aiello's
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fact that it exists and that I once had
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it makes it my number four that's pretty
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good I got to admit I I was very tempted
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to include that same entry on my list we
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had that pizza so much it was so
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freaking good yeah I mean a ellos in
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Pittsburgh is just the best if I could
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say one pizza place that I enjoyed more
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than any other pizza place it would be a
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tough call between our current one and a
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ellos in Pittsburgh and yeah it's pretty
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close but we can't remember how we would
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always talk about know if we became like
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gazillionaires and we could just form
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our own town of all of the things that
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we like the best that we would totally
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pay to construct and fly out alo whoever
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mr. alo misses alo who owns the
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restaurant and have them set up a place
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in our fantasy food town which we pay
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all of our favorite restaurants to move
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near us okay so what's your number four
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all right so my number four and and this
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is a compound pic I know it's against
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the rules but up to I'll explain why
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wait you're going against the rules
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already you you would against anyway I I
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took into account the availability and
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still picked it okay so I will too so
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here's here's the thing my number four
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is pepperoni and sausage with some
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caveats oh I need I have things to say
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about pepperoni and sausage good okay so
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first of all I love I just it's just
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like such like a nice like high salt
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high meat high grease if that's what
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you're going for like that is a it's so
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good and those are all my negatives and
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one of the NMS I should speculate or I
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I'm only including sausage if it is of
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the crumbled variety not sliced I don't
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like sliced sausage upon pizza just
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grunt the crumbly part you know who are
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you and what I like about this is that
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it is basically the same taste no matter
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where you get it you can get this is
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this is no no way lighting that way not
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this explain and then let me buzz you
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okay pepperoni and sausage is the kind
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of flavor that if you are at a really
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good pizza place or a really crappy
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that will still be good regardless in
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all likelihood like that I think and if
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you if you are at all on the fence then
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I'd say skip the sausage and just do
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only pepperoni because that that would
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also give the same general safety and
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consistency of like almost anywhere can
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make a decent pepperoni slice and I
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think that includes everything from the
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fancy New York places all the way down
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to like Pizza Hut almost anybody can
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make a decent tasting pepperoni slice
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and most places can make a do statistic
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pepperoni and sausage slice and that's
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why my number four is pepperoni and
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sausage with the speculation only if the
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sausage has crumbled okay in my new
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fangled in my new advanced rating system
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pepperoni got a negative negative one
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point for being too greasy
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you know just blotted it's no big deal
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still no it was too greasy and my
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sausage also got a negative one point
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because sausage is so inconsistent from
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place to place you can have like
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sausages you just get so piggy I don't
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know it just tastes so piggy sometimes
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and like I just it's terrible and then
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good sausage sausage that's part of the
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sausage good sausage is amazing and its
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flavorful and it's delicious and whether
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it's sliced or crumbled it doesn't
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matter sometimes the crumbly ones feel
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so grainy why would you like that the
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grainy crumbly sausage I like it and and
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to me like sausage to me the
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best-tasting sausage for pizza is the
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kind of sausage you find on cheap chain
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pizza that is my favorite kind of
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sausage on pizza no you need the nice
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slice like Italian oh it's so good it's
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the it's what I want on pizza is the
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opposite of I would want on a sausage
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pepper sandwich that's where you're
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wrong that's where you're totally right
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well that's why well that's why it's my
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number four not yours yet I know what
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I'm saying it's it is missed the mark
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for me because of Pig eNOS and
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inconsistency and grease factor that's
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those are fair criticisms I respectfully
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disagree but there's a fair criticisms
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okay moving on number three my number
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three all right you might need to help
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me with this here it is debt it has a
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um tomato and garlic pie which we get
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here at our favorite pizza place slices
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it is absolutely delicious is there
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anything else on the tomato and garlic
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pie really so it's a white bass that
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you're talking about yes it's a white is
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basically a white pie with a slice Anita
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yeah of the entire circle of to make
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note no sub circle no semi circles the
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entire circle of tomatoes sliced yes you
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know placed all over the pizza with a
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healthy amount of garlic on top and I
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and I believe do they put a little bit
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of fresh basil on top under there's no
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Passover and they might put a little bit
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of fresh basil I'm it I mean that could
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only make it better but they do not add
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the ricotta right you know that's not in
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this white pie it's just muscle yeah
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yeah and is it fresh at this one cuz
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right now I'm describing a margarita but
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you're not though amory that's why I'm
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trying that's why I said I need help
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with this because I love this pie that
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we order often and it is just really
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delicious the way they do the thin kind
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of crust and the edges of the crust
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aren't too baked so it's all kind of
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soft still and the fresh tomato and when
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you can only get seasonally because when
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the tomatoes aren't fresh this pie is
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terrible exactly but when it's good it's
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better than other things the tomato does
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add a little bit of extra water I guess
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because you also have the miss rel which
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also adds water so it is kind of a bit
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of a soggy pie but it didn't always come
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very soggy sometimes the right people
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make it and it's very very good it
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probably also depends on the tomatoes I
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can't like whether the tomatoes were
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like more Meteor more watery yeah if you
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get like a mealy tomato not this pie
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then just just it's off the charts bad
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like you cannot compare it to anything
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so anyway my number three is a fresh
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tomato and garlic pie with no red sauce
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so I have two two already with no red
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sauce you'll be surprised to hear that
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my number three is almost the same thing
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really my number three is the margarita
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and and I should speculate or I should
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stipulate I guess is the right word yeah
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you keep saying speculate whatever I
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should stipulate that a lot of people
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a lot of different pies margarita I
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don't think this name is standardized it
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generally refers to a class of pies that
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usually includes fresh mozzarella
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instead of like dried shredded
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mozzarella so usually cludes fresh
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mozzarella of some form usually includes
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some variation on tomato sauce either
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fresh tomatoes or a little dollops of
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sauce or both or stewed tomatoes or
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stewed or crushed tomatoes like but not
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just covered in the whole base and sauce
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usually but sometimes they do that and
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and then some like so it's like and
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usually there's some kind of either
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fresh basil or pesto added as well to
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get that flavor in there and maybe some
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extra garlic so but like so many people
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have slight variations on that combo to
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make what they call margarita or fresh
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mozzarella slices my number three is the
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margarita slice done the way that our
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pizza place normally does it which is
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you know nice thin crust of course all
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my picks are thin crust I hate that
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crust I mean you know I'll eat it if I'm
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if I'm if there's no other choice but
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yeah my picks are also thin crust yeah
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if you even have to say that it's pizza
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yeah sorry Chicago yeah like oh I like
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crust pizza but when you eat pizza
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you're not thinking thick crust you can
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like thick crust yeah oh yeah no one's
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saying you can't like that I mean we
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there's Sicilian pizzas and all kinds of
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stuff even available here in almost
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every pizza place but you have to
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specify that that's what you want
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yeah the default is that if we say pizza
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you know that that's the thing I get
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unless you are in Chicago in which case
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you can say pizza and get whatever that
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casserole thing is they make well there
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are also places that if you say plain
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pizza you don't even get cheese yeah I
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don't know what that's about
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like who orders like a cheese pizza like
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who says that that's so crazy to say
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yeah by the way I have no respect slice
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of pizza is like a slice of pizza I mean
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come on there's like you know think of a
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drawing of a pizza if someone was to
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draw a piece that's a slice of pizza
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right yeah yeah and I also have no
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respect for the topping choice extra
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cheese yeah what is that how much cheese
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I mean it's cheese so I order extra
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cheese when we were when I was growing
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up in Ohio ordering from my Pizza Hut
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because that's just what everybody
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and so I just learned when you order
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pizza you ask for extra cheese and so I
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don't think I've ever even had it with
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the regular level of cheese that's
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that's the kind of request that first of
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all so having cheese at all right first
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of all it sounds really gross
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second of all it's the kind of thing
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we're like do you think they're actually
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putting on different amounts when you
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say that or are they just charging you
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more on putting on the same amount they
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always do I think they put on I bet
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you're right I don't think anyone has
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called up like in New York pizza place
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and ask for extra cheese we should ask
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Isaac I actually did ask Isaac some
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questions tonight but people order extra
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cheese so anyway so my number three is
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margarita done the way that they use
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that they usually do it because what you
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described with the fresh tomato slices
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is delicious but it's so inconsistent
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cuz it depends so heavily on whether
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they can get good fresh tomatoes in at
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that given day you know and so it and I
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don't know what it is in recent years
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we've had a very hard time finding good
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Tomatoes yeah like we've had a number of
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I think mediocre tomato seasons but when
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that pie is good it is so good yes but
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the entire rest of history and time and
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future the regular margarita pie for me
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is the better choice because it's almost
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the same every time because they use I
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believe it's stewed or crushed tomatoes
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like a little like almost like little
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spots of sauce between the dollops of
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makes it bad does the spot a sauce the
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person that makes it good uses the food
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Tomatoes okay all right and then they
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also do like little drops of pesto
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around the pie so you get like them like
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the basil flavor and because it's pesto
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but not fresh basil and stewed tomatoes
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and not fresh tomatoes it's the same
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year round you can get it any day and
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it's basically the same and it's
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delicious and it's like slices of fresh
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mozzarella which they make themselves I
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believe so and so they layered those
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slices on so it's not like a shredded
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cheese covering it's more of like a slab
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of areas and because the mozzarella is
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thinly sliced to go on there and because
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they're using stewed tomatoes instead of
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fresh tomatoes there usually is not an
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overly watery problem it is not a watery
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slice most of the time sometimes it's a
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little bit but you know it's it's fine I
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so anyway that's my number three and I
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it's the kind of thing we're like if I'm
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at a pizza place I've never been to
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before I'm looking to see what slices
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they have available I I'm very likely to
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try whatever the equivalent is of a
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margarita pie because it is it's the
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kind of thing where even though there's
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lots of different variations minor and
◼
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major to what people put in their
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margarita pie and how they make it
◼
►
they're all pretty good and I feel very
◼
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safe picking that option pretty much
◼
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anywhere and it's only your number three
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yeah you're gonna hate my number one or
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number two you're gonna love my number
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one okay all right what's your number
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two all right my number two
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Oh first I want it I want to run back
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backwards for a second and talk about
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oh wait well maybe I'll see what your
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number one and two are okay guys if it's
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pepperoni again without sausage then I
◼
►
have something to say okay okay my
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number two is ham and pineapple the
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Hawaiian okay it's so good you got the
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salty you got the sweet I like little
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►
bits of ham you can't go wrong with ham
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most ham in most places does not taste
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piggy because it just tastes like ham
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►
it's mean these would just buy deli ham
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I would imagine like jelly ham some they
◼
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use like ham steaks where they chop it
◼
►
up lightly you don't do that it's just a
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►
ham steak I guess I don't like ham so I
◼
►
shouldn't really judge okay yeah you
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►
don't like him you're out of this game
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►
okay so and pineapple no matter how they
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►
put it whether it's like slightly
◼
►
charred or if it's not if it's cold it
◼
►
doesn't matter I love pineapple ham
◼
►
pizza it is a really fun thing to order
◼
►
when I don't feel like other things I
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have it as my number two because I crave
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►
it more often than I get it but I will
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►
not ever turn down a pineapple ham pizza
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and I've never had a bad pineapple and
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►
ham pizza because my other number my
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I've had bad versions of those toppings
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►
and my number four is my perfect number
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►
four is even hard to get so that's why
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pineapple and ham Trump's my other two
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►
it's consistent and I can get it
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►
delicious anywhere and it's super fun
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and I kind of actually love when people
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are grossed out by it because I love
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eating stuff in front of other people
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that they're grossed out by what I'm
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►
eating because I'm like haha it's
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►
delicious to me I don't care what you
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►
think yeah I gotta say like it must be
◼
►
fun to be the one person in a group who
◼
►
likes anchovy pizza well the good thing
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►
is I mean Joey you're disgusting when
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►
pineapple and hands actually really good
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►
and so and so it's it's this option you
◼
►
can order that is really good but it's
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►
still I mean I know like it's been
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►
around for a while it's been around for
◼
►
a long time there are still people that
◼
►
are surprised by it exactly it still
◼
►
surprises people I'm like what rock have
◼
►
you been living under that you haven't
◼
►
tried a pineapple and ham pizza it's
◼
►
like we have the internet people know
◼
►
about enough now like and if you're
◼
►
around anybody like when you're ordering
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►
this if you're around anybody who is
◼
►
over the age of about 50 there's a good
◼
►
chance they've never heard of and it
◼
►
will blow their mind yeah and they're
◼
►
like what that's weird what I like it
◼
►
it's it's so amazing to be able to
◼
►
introduce the concept of a new weird
◼
►
sounding pizza topping to somebody who's
◼
►
never heard of it before yep pretty fun
◼
►
so pineapple in a ham number 2 that's
◼
►
that's solid pick thank you I got a
◼
►
solid pick alright my number 2 is the
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►
evil villain pizza from inside out the
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►
white with broccoli so yeah the white a
◼
►
white pizza with broccoli I it's really
◼
►
good like I recognize that to children
◼
►
who hate broccoli that probably sounds
◼
►
horrible so I totally get why like a kid
◼
►
would think that's really weird
◼
►
especially if they already hate broccoli
◼
►
but as an adult who likes vegetables I
◼
►
like a white pizza with broccoli is just
◼
►
so good I didn't in general I like white
◼
►
pizza with almost any vegetable topping
◼
►
like white pea soup with vegetables in
◼
►
general is very good combo and I think
◼
►
of all the vegetables I've had I think
◼
►
I agree with you that if we were in
◼
►
Pittsburgh at Aiello's I would get
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►
broccoli and onion but in most places I
◼
►
don't trust the onion enough to to to
◼
►
order that and be set be tight with it
◼
►
so that's because you don't like a raw
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►
onion I don't mind if there's an
◼
►
accidental raw onion yeah situation on
◼
►
pizza okay now here's a question for you
◼
►
it all I got to say it's you're talking
◼
►
about a regular white slice not just a
◼
►
slice without sauce that's right you
◼
►
need to specify that for people who are
◼
►
unsure or who have never had a white
◼
►
slice before because that is also pretty
◼
►
common yes so I'm talking about the
◼
►
white slice that is crust mozzarella and
◼
►
dobbs of fresh ricotta and which is a
◼
►
hard word to say I don't know quite how
◼
►
to say it either like a jerky jerk who's
◼
►
trying to say like can't say ricotta
◼
►
because that sounds awful too so the one
◼
►
no matter how weird in the middle like
◼
►
yeah no matter how you say it somebody
◼
►
is somebody who hears you is going to
◼
►
either be mad that you said it to
◼
►
American or is going to not understand
◼
►
what the heck you're saying you said it
◼
►
to Italian yeah yeah well it's gyro gyro
◼
►
situation it's like what the hell yeah
◼
►
yeah but I feel like I feel like you can
◼
►
safely say gyro in most places without
◼
►
making anybody mad that's true
◼
►
but yeah except Greece well around here
◼
►
yeah it's it's I'm very afraid to say
◼
►
that type of cheese yeah I I just avoid
◼
►
talking about it but anyway anyway yeah
◼
►
that always goes in Dobbs on a white pie
◼
►
and and that it's a combination of the
◼
►
the fresh mozzarella or the regular
◼
►
mozzarella that and broccoli is just the
◼
►
best and it's very simple you have to
◼
►
get the ratio right though yes that's
◼
►
true and and the broccoli has to be as
◼
►
you mentioned it has to be fresh not
◼
►
dried out not burnt and but that's
◼
►
another one like like a broccoli white
◼
►
slice is also another one where you can
◼
►
order it in a lot of different places
◼
►
and it's generally gonna be good like
◼
►
it's a pretty safe bet it's it's pretty
◼
►
hard to screw that up it in a big way
◼
►
yeah because I don't even mind that much
◼
►
when it's burnt honestly because I like
◼
►
me too and yeah I mean when I cook
◼
►
broccoli I burn about a third of the
◼
►
time anyway so we always parboil our
◼
►
oh not like no but it's usually it's
◼
►
like in like a stir-fry with other
◼
►
things like or it's like it's in a it's
◼
►
in a pan with like onions stuff also so
◼
►
I often overcook it where it doesn't
◼
►
burn but it like it kind of turns like
◼
►
more Brown than green you know okay I
◼
►
mean I try not to but when I screw up
◼
►
that's what happens all right what's
◼
►
your number one my number one is
◼
►
margarita okay for almost all the same
◼
►
reasons you were saying I was just like
◼
►
taking all my reasons but it gained
◼
►
points it plus one all over the place
◼
►
and moved itself to the top of my list
◼
►
Margaery could do whatever it wants is
◼
►
I love margarita mainly for its
◼
►
universality when you're talking about
◼
►
pizza you can get a good margarita pizza
◼
►
anywhere just like you said and I even
◼
►
want to add to that if you're like out
◼
►
at a restaurant that has like brick oven
◼
►
pizza brick oven margarita is amazing
◼
►
yeah you can like get little personal
◼
►
pan pizzas from like bar pizza and
◼
►
margarita is gonna be amazing because
◼
►
it's usually either very very fresh
◼
►
ingredient or like you said ingredients
◼
►
that can translate really well and stay
◼
►
flavorful even if they aren't perfect so
◼
►
I love caprese salad I love those
◼
►
flavors in the summertime when
◼
►
everything is fresh and beautiful and
◼
►
this is just kind of like the cooked
◼
►
pizza version of that yep and so I
◼
►
always crave that kind of fresh bright
◼
►
type of pizza and I know John is
◼
►
probably freaking out right now it's not
◼
►
like a regular New York kind of pizza
◼
►
with none of I don't think any of mine
◼
►
are regular New York kind of Excel pie
◼
►
normally is not I I think that I don't
◼
►
think I didn't have margarita until I
◼
►
was much older like when you just when
◼
►
you order a pie you get like the typical
◼
►
things that regular choose about plain
◼
►
or you get pepperoni or you have peppers
◼
►
and onions that's always a big order
◼
►
when I was a kid I don't do so well with
◼
►
peppers anymore so that didn't make
◼
►
sorry TMI sorry I was sorry peppers
◼
►
you're off the list and you know I love
◼
►
a regular pepperoni pizza I really do
◼
►
like a solo pepperoni pizza who doesn't
◼
►
like that just like you said I would
◼
►
never turn down a slice of pepperoni
◼
►
if I've just felt like a random topping
◼
►
but man that margarita it is just always
◼
►
good no matter where you go no matter
◼
►
who's making it it's really hard to
◼
►
thin crust the crust it doesn't matter
◼
►
it's just so good yeah that's that's a
◼
►
very solid pick and I mean I I honestly
◼
►
thought about making my number one also
◼
►
but I just a few things I like better
◼
►
but it is like whenever whenever we get
◼
►
slices and we get an assortment of
◼
►
slices we oh I almost always throw in
◼
►
one margherita slice at least and it's
◼
►
like I don't know if I'm only gonna be
◼
►
getting one slice I often might pick
◼
►
something else but if I'm going to be
◼
►
getting multiple slices I almost always
◼
►
want one of those among them it's also
◼
►
really good cold for breakfast
◼
►
yes you know it's well I like all these
◼
►
like old for breakfast yeah yeah but the
◼
►
one they all disagree with you on though
◼
►
is that I'm not sure I I think for a
◼
►
universality of where you're ordering
◼
►
I think pepperoni beats margarita for
◼
►
life do you want this to be good from
◼
►
anywhere and I think I think I think
◼
►
pepperoni is more likely to be good from
◼
►
like like the big chains and like the
◼
►
kind of crappier places ok crappier
◼
►
places yeah like Cheyney places yeah I
◼
►
do agree with you but I would still
◼
►
personally prefer a margarita that's
◼
►
fair all right for my number one for my
◼
►
number one I want John siracusa to stop
◼
►
listening I'm serious stop turn it off
◼
►
stop listening don't buy the airplane
◼
►
Wi-Fi do not buy the airplane Wi-Fi my
◼
►
I'm so sorry John is barbecue chicken
◼
►
whoa number one barbecued chicken and I
◼
►
know this we need to talk about this I
◼
►
know you would say about barbecue
◼
►
chicken we will and this was a tough
◼
►
call for me because I do recognize that
◼
►
in many ways it's like barely pizza you
◼
►
so far out and barbecue chicken it has a
◼
►
wide variety of how its executed most of
◼
►
them I've liked from like the the crappy
◼
►
pizza place to the frozen pizza to the
◼
►
good pizza places and two different ways
◼
►
good pizza places do it
◼
►
I have almost always liked a barbecue
◼
►
chicken slice and what I like it like
◼
►
first of all I guess like barbecue sauce
◼
►
in fact I recommend if you are a
◼
►
broccoli white pizza fan try at one time
◼
►
with a little like zig zag a barbecue
◼
►
sauce on it it's a very good flavor
◼
►
combo anyway love barbecue sauce and and
◼
►
the sweet kind not but not like the
◼
►
super smoky kind I don't like artificial
◼
►
smoked flavor so thus we can drive
◼
►
acusó anyway I'm sorry for whatever
◼
►
part of the us hate sweet barbecue I'm
◼
►
sure there's like some part like is it
◼
►
like everyone likes something yeah but
◼
►
is it like you know like Tennessee that
◼
►
hates ater Kansas or Texas or what like
◼
►
I'm sure there's some someplace anyway
◼
►
so barbecue chicken the way our pizza
◼
►
place does it I really enjoy it's a it's
◼
►
just a white base with no Regatta a
◼
►
white base with barbecue sauce coated
◼
►
fried chicken like square pieces on it
◼
►
and that's it so you're getting the
◼
►
tomatoey flavor from the barbecue sauce
◼
►
you're getting the pizza flavor from the
◼
►
combination of that and the white base
◼
►
and and the cross and you get this nice
◼
►
chicken so it kind of it kind of bulks
◼
►
it up it makes it it changes the ratio
◼
►
of like how much like protein versus
◼
►
dairy versus Starks you're eating to
◼
►
tilt it more because then it's it's like
◼
►
you're having a whole bunch of chicken
◼
►
and also a little bit of starch and
◼
►
cheese so it like depending on what your
◼
►
going forward I jest of Lee it can can't
◼
►
kind of help with that
◼
►
some places really dress it up with
◼
►
weird stuff some places we'll put corn
◼
►
or red onion in there and the fries corn
◼
►
I know and I actually I don't like those
◼
►
as much I don't dislike them it's still
◼
►
good to me it's so I know this is really
◼
►
weird and if the only kind of ever had
◼
►
was the one was the ones with corn and
◼
►
onions and everything I wouldn't like it
◼
►
as much but the fact that our pizza
◼
►
place makes such a good one that is just
◼
►
the barbecue sauce coated chicken fried
◼
►
on top of a white pie it's just so good
◼
►
and every time that is available I get
◼
►
it and if I only get one slice sometimes
◼
►
if I like if I go there like on the way
◼
►
to the train or something I know if I'm
◼
►
only gonna have one slice and I have
◼
►
enough room for it because it's pretty
◼
►
I will almost always pick the berry
◼
►
chicken slice because it's just so good
◼
►
I have things to say about checking on
◼
►
pizza I'm so sorry the thing about
◼
►
chicken on pizza is it's usually awful
◼
►
chicken on pizza is just the worst it is
◼
►
so much worse than broccoli on pizza
◼
►
because chicken on PITA
◼
►
you can get like the most dry sinewy
◼
►
like nasty chicken it could taste like
◼
►
freezers because most of the time almost
◼
►
all of the time chicken on pizza is
◼
►
frozen and they just kind of like either
◼
►
have frozen chicken bits which is
◼
►
horrible yeah or they have like frozen
◼
►
chickens that then they you know do
◼
►
things to and put on the pizza and also
◼
►
weird barbecue situations but regardless
◼
►
any kind of chicken on pizza I find to
◼
►
be just horrible because not only that
◼
►
they usually overcook the chicken even
◼
►
if they are cooking like something and
◼
►
then they put overcooked chicken on top
◼
►
of a raw pizza and then cook it again
◼
►
and so you have dried out pieces of
◼
►
chicken oh it's just so horrible slices
◼
►
the place Marco is talking about who we
◼
►
are plugging and it's not sponsoring us
◼
►
but I mean we pretty much sponsor them
◼
►
they have fresh chicken every time that
◼
►
they they make their chicken fresh they
◼
►
make it fresh every day it is never
◼
►
frozen mmm they make their own
◼
►
mozzarella cheese like it just looks
◼
►
kind of like a hole in the wall new york
◼
►
pizza place it doesn't it doesn't it's
◼
►
not fancy yeah it doesn't see noteworthy
◼
►
compared to any other New York Pizza no
◼
►
it doesn't look like hipstery like no
◼
►
fresh pizza it's just like guys in a
◼
►
pizza shop kind of pizza place like
◼
►
they're all over right but they make
◼
►
everything fresh you could you can walk
◼
►
it looks just like this and everything
◼
►
could be like frozen and terrible but
◼
►
everything's fresh everything's
◼
►
delicious and they do the chicken on the
◼
►
pizza right there chick it there chicken
◼
►
pizzas are the first effort chicken
◼
►
pizzas that I've ever ever ever liked
◼
►
yeah they got they got you to to not
◼
►
only try chicken pizza after much
◼
►
traffic went for me not only try it but
◼
►
now you actually like it yeah well from
◼
►
there chicken on pizza in general is an
◼
►
abomination no I mean I will give you
◼
►
that chicken is very easy to be mediocre
◼
►
I have literally wrote down oh my god
◼
►
black no I mean that I get why you don't
◼
►
like chicken when it's done badly on
◼
►
pizza but I like there's so much that I
◼
►
think it makes up for that the handful
◼
►
of times that I've had like you know
◼
►
overdone or dry chicken on pizza I for
◼
►
the most part the record is very very
◼
►
good but you also tend to like chicken
◼
►
on pizza so that's true so yeah so
◼
►
that's my number one I don't know that's
◼
►
that's gonna anger a lot of people so so
◼
►
just pretend if if you're angry about
◼
►
BBQ chicken pizza just pretend like I
◼
►
stopped at white with broccoli though I
◼
►
think it's really fun about pizza
◼
►
toppings is that they really really can
◼
►
be so different between people because
◼
►
you can order whatever you want there's
◼
►
a whole bunch of toppings there's a
◼
►
whole bunch of bases there's a whole
◼
►
bunch of combinations that you could do
◼
►
so you know really we don't hate on each
◼
►
other for pizza everyone just gets along
◼
►
it's pizza you can get half a pie of
◼
►
something if you can't agree like that's
◼
►
amazing you could just get like oh I'll
◼
►
have half this and you have half that we
◼
►
can all get along you don't have to
◼
►
decide you can just get what you want
◼
►
it's pizza yeah it doesn't like pizza
◼
►
remember when we ordered all that um
◼
►
what do we get all the time was it
◼
►
Little Caesars no yank on it was it
◼
►
Domino's or little no there's Little
◼
►
Caesars because they did a special where
◼
►
you get an entire pepperoni probably for
◼
►
five bucks the best and we'd watch Sex
◼
►
when we first we were in college in my
◼
►
crappy apartment and again pepperoni
◼
►
that was the only option it was five
◼
►
dollars for an entire pepperoni pie they
◼
►
were already made in a big stack and you
◼
►
could just walk in and pick them up for
◼
►
talk about being paid and being gross I
◼
►
know but it but I totally was again
◼
►
good and it was a smaller large pizza -
◼
►
it was like it was enough for both of us
◼
►
to split yeah I mean well it was enough
◼
►
to both of us shouldn't eat the whole
◼
►
thing but we could and we usually did
◼
►
together yeah yeah we only got one we're
◼
►
not animals well at a time yeah but we
◼
►
did it on a number of occasions pretty
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much did it every like Sunday night
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before you left we would just say cuz X
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in the city together and we'd eat one of
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those pizzas yep and see pepperoni was
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the universal flavor it's the universal
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light no matter where you are good or
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crappy pepperoni will probably be good
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pepperonis king but it's not on any of
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our lists it was on mine my number four
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no pepperoni sausage was your number
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four we discussed that that's part of
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the rules you pick pepperoni sausage
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oh you're right oh well sorry pepperoni
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you're the best but we didn't pick you
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so uh that's it all right so thank you
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for listening everybody do we want to
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talk about the the pineapple and
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pepperoni thing you want to discuss or
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should we just drop in some after show
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business let's discuss it so we did a
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little taste testing this evening
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yesterday Marco got us a whole bunch of
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slices because we thought we were going
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to be recording last night I when he
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came back with all the slices I was like
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wait we were supposed to taste test this
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pizza topping combo that a whole bunch
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of our friends over at Relay and the
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incomparable we're raving about so which
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is the pineapple and pepperoni pineapple
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pepperoni combo I spearheaded by I
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believe Jason Snell and then spread
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throughout all of Europe by Mike early
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and veteran Jason was right so we got
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one of these pies before the show
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tonight yesterday and so Marco didn't
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pick up that slice said that we got it a
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whole entire pie fresh made yeah so
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because we wanted to give it the fair
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shot possible and you know that our
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pizza place didn't have pepperoni and
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pineapple slices already made sitting
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yeah and they could just like you know
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put some pineapple on a pepperoni slice
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putting it in for a minute but that's
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not like a fair shot that's like a hack
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okay some people don't understand this
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concept in pizza place in New York the
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slice pizza flea no really I know weird
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well it's not weird to us it's like our
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life but you know this so in New York
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walk into a pizza place there is a
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counter that looks like a pie shelf but
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hi it's it's pizzas and pizza pies and
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you can just like get a slice and they
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throw it in the oven real quick heat it
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up and hand it to you order it by the
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slice and you can get you know whatever
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like whatever they happen to have made
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at that moment you can go order from
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those choices and usually like their
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most popular things are kind of out and
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made and sometimes they'll have like
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some strombolis out sometimes they'll
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have like a whole thing of garlic knots
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ready to go like everything that's just
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kind of ready to go for people for just
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walk-ins and we often when we order our
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pizza Marco just goes and picks up
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walk-in slices we don't order pies that
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often because it's just the two of us so
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and Isaac makes those pizzas nice and
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big so you can cut a slice in half and
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it's enough for each person to have some
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yeah usually like I'll get four large
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slices and you know we'll split them and
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so that's enough for two people and it's
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nice you don't to wait for it and you
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get variety right away it's nice anyway
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so if like you're walking around New
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York and you feel like a slice of pizza
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you don't have to like go in somewhere
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in order a pizza you can just like grab
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one they put it on a paper plate and you
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walk out eating it yeah exactly so we
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wanted to give it a fair shot so we got
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an entire pie fresh made pineapple and
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pepperoni and I gotta say I really liked
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it a lot the the only thing that that we
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both cited as like I was like a reliable
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problem with it is that because
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pepperoni is already on the high grease
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side and pineapple is so watery that
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there was an issue of a lot of water
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pooling up in certain places in the pie
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yeah it was kind of like when Italian
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dressing separates where it's all I said
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over and over again yeah III don't I
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don't think if the flavors were
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delicious but the execution was wrong
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and that's why pineapple and ham is
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superior because you don't have the
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grease lever grease level given off by
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the pepperoni I see I mean and so I'm
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biased because I don't like ham that
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much and I do like pepperoni so I I
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greatly preferred the flavor of this pie
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I agree with you that ham is lower
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moisture and so there
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like a ham and pineapple pie holds
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together better but I think what we had
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tonight the pineapple in pepperoni it
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tasted better and it was a mess to try
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to hold it up it did improve over time
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as it cooled and the last times I had I
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blotted it first and that also helped a
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►
lot it's gonna make an amazing breakfast
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yeah when that when it's cold it's gonna
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but I would say I really enjoyed it I
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think Jason was right it's a really good
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flavor and I can see myself ordering it
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►
again in the future all right I also
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liked it but I probably would not order
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it because of the fresh out of the oven
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consistency was not my favorite that's a
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fair criticism no I I love pineapple on
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pizza as by my list but I don't think I
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would be going to the pineapple and
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pepperoni slice on my own
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if someone ordered a pie of it damn
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►
right I take some so I thought I would
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close by revealing some interesting
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►
information from our pizza guy I'm Isaac
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Carson slices pizzeria been here 14
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years and run the pizzeria so what would
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you say are the top four toppings that
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are ordered on pizzas okay in the order
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that I think is the most popular of
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chicken chicken bacon ranch a chicken
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parm margarita margarita white is not as
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popular I'm trying to think whatever
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in good old-fashioned mushrooms it's
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still popular it's an acquired taste but
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►
they're trying to think and you know
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►
like that I don't think in the top four
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so how popular is the BBQ chicken
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barbecue chicken is very popular buffin
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Buffalo is probably more popular and now
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they're going for chicken bacon ranch as
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well as buffalo bacon Ridge and chicken
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►
broccoli Tomatoes so chicken is a big
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►
winner with toppings right now why do
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you think most people places seem to
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have really terrible chicken on their
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pizza and why don't you I make my
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chicken every day and we give a good
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amount we don't put it sporadic on the
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►
pie we make a nice healthy pie is there
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►
a topping that like if somebody orders
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►
it you just totally dread it cuz it's
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►
like a pain in the butt or it's or it's
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►
just hard to keep or whatever else like
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►
what do you really hope people don't
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►
order what I hope people don't order
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►
their pies that are very difficult to
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make like a taco pizza it's very
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►
time-consuming but what they hate
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►
dealing with is the anchovies they hate
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►
anchovy pies the staff you mean you go
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►
this fast how often do you get an order
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►
for an anchovy pie I would probably
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►
guess probably about three times a week
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►
four times a week what do you what what
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is right yeah I'm actually like a whole
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►
pie mean so what would you say is the
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►
least popular topping that you still
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►
have probably sun-dried tomatoes it's a
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►
rare pie but anchovies is probably one
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►
of the least most popular pineapple is
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►
also not as popular but if you have a
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Hawaiian with ham and pineapple it's
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was I the first person to order a
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pepperoni and pineapple pie yes you were
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►
the first to start with that and how did
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you like it honestly we loved it we
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thought it was it was a bit of a
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moisture issue there's a lot of water
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that comes out of the pineapple plus a
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►
lot of the grease in pepperoni but well
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►
after like a blotting it or after it
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►
cooled down having a cold it's amazing
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really it was really good for breakfast
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►
good breakfast pizza and and another one
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is some people ask for bacon and
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►
pineapple once in a while as opposed to
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the hand so that's a pork pork product
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►
all right so we had a debate on the show
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when people ask for extra cheese is that
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►
actually different than the regular
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►
amount of cheese or you just put the
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oh no we absolutely put it we put the
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►
sauce the cheese and then we let it sit
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and then we put cheese on top of it so
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►
it's actually it looks like a mountain
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►
of cheese on top and how often do people
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►
ask for extra cheese a good amount of
◼
►
time yeah it probably thirty times a
◼
►
week and they do it on slices as well if
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►
not only pies it could be unsliced
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►
but that's when it slices cold then you
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►
put the extra cheese on top of it I'll
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►
stop your head what do you think are
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►
your top four personally favorite slices
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►
it's funny you say that
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►
mushroom margherita regular old plain
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►
and Sicilian Wow all right
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►
see and it's plain it's not cheese pizza
◼
►
not a regular right because if somebody
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►
said plain you would never think they
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►
meant like the only sauce one know very
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►
few people ask for marinara now if they
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►
they don't say can I have a plain pizza
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►
without any cheese all right thanks a
◼
►
lot to Isaac it slices here in Hastings
◼
►
on Hudson and I encourage everybody to
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come here and visit because it's our
◼
►
favorite pizza we appreciate it we hope
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to see y'all thank you anything we can