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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 251: "Popped Out"

 

00:00:01   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1">TS</a>]

00:00:04   hello hi John John Ricca haha I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4">TS</a>]

00:00:47   say that so how do you feel about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/47">TS</a>]

00:01:02   particular little hairpin in the career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   of DL Roth how'd you feel about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/64">TS</a>]

00:01:08   where's the stinky from the heat what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/68">TS</a>]

00:01:09   it called loco del colle or what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   name of it taco pasta crazy from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/71">TS</a>]

00:01:16   heat crazy Oh del colle or David Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/76">TS</a>]

00:01:21   Roth official website how do I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24   about it how did I then or how do I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/84">TS</a>]

00:01:27   about it now well well oh goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30   can I close this tab um well here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/90">TS</a>]

00:01:33   you had you had you had the you had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   van Halen like five really good albums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/95">TS</a>]

00:01:38   well you know for really good albums did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41   some good albums and then the DLR left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   and Sammy Hagar asked the musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   question why can't this be love right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   I don't remember exactly what happened I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/110">TS</a>]

00:01:51   think there was some bad blood with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   word sugar and DLR DL Roth goes off on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/113">TS</a>]

00:01:57   his own and puts out low code el calor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00   and what were the hits you had counts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   California Gurls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/123">TS</a>]

00:02:04   yep it would be and and just a gigolo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/124">TS</a>]

00:02:09   slash I got nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/129">TS</a>]

00:02:13   yeah yeah those were the big hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/133">TS</a>]

00:02:17   I I don't even think it was uh I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   even think it was a full record was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/139">TS</a>]

00:02:22   wasn't it like a big EP was it crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   from the heat oh my goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   oh my goodness no wait nevermind Oh Edom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   and smile heatoman smile came in 1986 oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   my goodness you're so right okay okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/153">TS</a>]

00:02:37   here we go we got 14 minute long record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   oh my goodness 1406 temperament has his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/160">TS</a>]

00:02:46   imprimatur on that one too I mean think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/166">TS</a>]

00:02:50   about think about how many copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   that EP sold right yeah every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/173">TS</a>]

00:03:00   person started a cover band only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   thousand people ever bought it think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   about that and think about this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   thing I've reflected on this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10   which is that David Lee Roth did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   write any songs for this album right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   they're all covers so how difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/194">TS</a>]

00:03:18   would it have been for him to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   full-length album at this point he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   have just picked ten Tin Pan Alley songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/203">TS</a>]

00:03:27   instead of four okay so he's got a cure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/207">TS</a>]

00:03:34   winter and Edgar Winter song and Edgar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   Winter cover get a Louis Prima right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38   leave Prima cover you got a Beach Boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   cover get a cover of a song I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42   heard of by the lovin spoonful for songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/222">TS</a>]

00:03:46   tour songs now why why didn't he do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/226">TS</a>]

00:03:52   he do like good morning little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   schoolgirl and some coverage for David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/234">TS</a>]

00:04:05   Lee Roth for dlr the man himself dl roth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   to do yeah in 1984 released in 1985 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/247">TS</a>]

00:04:11   think dem bones dem bones dem dry bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   got behind the list absolutely it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/253">TS</a>]

00:04:21   a strange it's a strange turn is all I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/263">TS</a>]

00:04:24   it feels like a rush to market strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   I think is the business term thing if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   want to get something out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   look at the personnel you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   personnel on this get Colson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   Christopher Cross in the studio Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/275">TS</a>]

00:04:39   well he have the power right mm-hmm this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   is before he before he put together a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   the band with Steve Vai let's see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   can eat him and smile yeah Yankee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   woodsies see what I'm what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   though is that if you look at the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   greater let's say four great van Halen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   albums with TLR every one of them's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   ice cream man or you know there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/298">TS</a>]

00:05:07   much of that stuff that would fit right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   on eat him and smile or right on crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   from the heat David was chomping at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   bit I think this is one of those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   know the way the way Lennon talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17   McCartney where he's like by the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   got to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/319">TS</a>]

00:05:20   mmm-hmm I just knew exactly what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   gonna play at all times it was just he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/322">TS</a>]

00:05:26   thought he thought he thought McCartney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   was corny yeah and I think that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/328">TS</a>]

00:05:32   that Eddie Van Halen from the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   beginning was like this guy is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   cheeseball David always wanted to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   more accordion in the thing eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/338">TS</a>]

00:05:45   he was like I got a I got to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   myself I got to get out there and put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   a show for people and have fun he's John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   Roderick DL Roth is above all a showman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   a show man in the business that is show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   you know you cannot keep that man in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/358">TS</a>]

00:06:01   box the answer to DL are in a box is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   a bigger box let that man out of his box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/363">TS</a>]

00:06:06   cuz he's got to show and he did girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/366">TS</a>]

00:06:12   wouldn't that when that video came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/372">TS</a>]

00:06:17   it encapsulated the 80s it really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/377">TS</a>]

00:06:21   that was peak eighties so DL are on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24   beach with all that and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   like shameless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   it was so shameless just my math here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   but it had a lot of girls in bikinis was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   that right girls in bikinis there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   lot of fisheye lens shots mmm there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37   it was just like a costume parade it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   a it was like a day at Venice Beach I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   don't know there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   of the 80s let's say the version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   80s that that was the that was the peak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   moment of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   peek mid 80s I'm gonna peg to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52   that or you spin me round' by dead her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/412">TS</a>]

00:06:55   life oh well see yeah sure that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/415">TS</a>]

00:06:59   of the first well excluding Bananarama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   which we really haven't talked enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   about excluding Bananarama that's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   the stock Aitken Waterman thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   that might have been their first essay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   w's first big hit was around and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/427">TS</a>]

00:07:11   they kind of owned it for a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   everything with bump bump bump I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   know but was all octaves everywhere I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/434">TS</a>]

00:07:23   listened to a yeah I listened to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/443">TS</a>]

00:07:27   the other day I listened to the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   version which I liked but I listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   an extended it starts out mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   instrumental and you know that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   when they do a remix oh just makes it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   long version where they would have part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   of the vocals and the vocals would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   echoey and they call it a remix but man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/459">TS</a>]

00:07:44   that is that is a Swiss clock of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/464">TS</a>]

00:07:47   sequencing that's some nice ass sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   anyway I'm taking off your topic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/470">TS</a>]

00:07:51   that was a pivot point in the mid 80s I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   think was you spin me around but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55   might be right you might be right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/475">TS</a>]

00:07:56   um about el loco del Colle or that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/476">TS</a>]

00:08:00   that in the break to like the break in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   that in you spin me right round right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/483">TS</a>]

00:08:08   where it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/488">TS</a>]

00:08:15   that's very tough it's fun to play even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/495">TS</a>]

00:08:19   on acoustic guitar you go like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   like a GCC or GDD you do like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/501">TS</a>]

00:08:25   walk down bump bump bump alright wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/505">TS</a>]

00:08:28   witness an octave it's an octave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   it's dr. VAR v boy that's an octave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   anyway it's super fun to do but you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   walk down it's basically it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   wipeout right it's why is the wipeout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/516">TS</a>]

00:08:40   walk down the wipeout walk down I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/520">TS</a>]

00:08:44   there's a there's there's a there's f1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   tune that also does that yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/526">TS</a>]

00:08:51   pretty well known one with that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   same walk down in the same key I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54   pretty well yeah pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   Taurus I believe well who was the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   they ripped off was that Taurus Tarsus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   Tarsus Tarsus his early stairway rip off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/541">TS</a>]

00:09:06   heaven never gonna give you up dude it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/546">TS</a>]

00:09:10   was s aw that was this aw you got Kylie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   Minogue pump up the volume pump up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   volume pump that maybe we should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/555">TS</a>]

00:09:21   vocalize psaltery like from a low point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/561">TS</a>]

00:09:26   that was the beginning of the end for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   that high energy high ass exactly that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/568">TS</a>]

00:09:32   the genre this and our Jim yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   for me there were that was where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   started to pop out of 80's pop Tom okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40   pop cause it was it was so and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   talking about you spin me round' because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   that was still new wave it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/586">TS</a>]

00:09:50   that was an exciting moment of new wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51   that was well that was also it was with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54   his persona and video and the sound I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   mean that was such a new sound that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59   I mean that did not sound like Shannon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   that I'm trying to think of other bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   of that type but of that the high energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   stuff but it really though if he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/604">TS</a>]

00:10:09   doing gender play two at a time when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   was like what's happening here it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/612">TS</a>]

00:10:13   very exciting it was a lumberjack I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/613">TS</a>]

00:10:18   that guy was really swinging for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/618">TS</a>]

00:10:19   fences no you're probably right but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/619">TS</a>]

00:10:27   you slide into you're sliding into 86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   which in some ways is if not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   high-water mark it's a mark but 1987 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   things are starting to get pretty rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/636">TS</a>]

00:10:40   87 88 and 88 I feel like things really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   87 88 like under the surface of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/643">TS</a>]

00:10:47   water the Ducks feet are moving around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   you're getting some Pixies action but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   like but man a lot of bands really some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/649">TS</a>]

00:10:53   of their poorest work in 1987-88 I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/653">TS</a>]

00:10:57   of that era as being Bon Jovi dominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00   oh yeah right IANA steel horsey rides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/660">TS</a>]

00:11:06   like in excess kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   it was which I thought was a low point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   it was it was Def Leppard's adrenalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/671">TS</a>]

00:11:15   yeah it was all these bands that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/675">TS</a>]

00:11:19   know that had that it started off kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   of sounding like teenage ac/dc and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/682">TS</a>]

00:11:26   the end had become just like comedic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/686">TS</a>]

00:11:31   stadium rock that I just couldn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/691">TS</a>]

00:11:35   couldn't I I had to bail out of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/695">TS</a>]

00:11:38   that but it was also Peter Gabriel so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/698">TS</a>]

00:11:43   was hammers 86 yeah I think yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/703">TS</a>]

00:11:49   here we go I don't wanna go through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/709">TS</a>]

00:11:50   whole thing because it would take a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   but the list of Billboard Hot 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   number-one singles of 1987 no I know go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56   to 88 80 go to 88 cuz you're right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   was the that was dead dead time 88 okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/722">TS</a>]

00:12:03   start with faith by George Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   that's a good song right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06   it's so emotional I think better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   retrospect I got my mind set on you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/728">TS</a>]

00:12:12   a great song right the way you make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   feel not peak Jackson I need you tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   that's not bug me we you and me we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   back and forth on the INXS but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   the earlier stuff is probably a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   better I I need you tonight well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   excess I owe you gonna give you up never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/744">TS</a>]

00:12:35   gonna you know is true I tell you love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/755">TS</a>]

00:12:41   your secret heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   I was stand-in you were there two worlds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/764">TS</a>]

00:12:50   collided tear us apart we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/770">TS</a>]

00:13:01   that the POW who is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/781">TS</a>]

00:13:06   okay man in the mirror Oh God get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/786">TS</a>]

00:13:10   my dreams to get into my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/790">TS</a>]

00:13:11   he claims Billy ocean mmm the stone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/791">TS</a>]

00:13:15   stone roses when did when did Stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   Roses come out oh shit dog look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/797">TS</a>]

00:13:24   okay hang on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   Oh a couple more here let's see wishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   well that's pretty good song together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   for the flame terrible song a cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/810">TS</a>]

00:13:36   trick then you get I actually was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39   into Terence Trent d'Arby for that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42   fighter on that first blast and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/822">TS</a>]

00:13:47   know where did he that was a good song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/827">TS</a>]

00:13:59   that was a good record that's when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   showed up Steve Winwood what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   think have you have you noticed this - [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   no I think I think what we're getting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   here yes is the beginning of what I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/848">TS</a>]

00:14:14   was the first generation gap that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   strongly felt oh really like you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   yeah a little left behind or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   walked away from it you popped out well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   yeah not left behind by any means but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   like the the when I was a freshman in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   high school the seniors in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   had music that I identified as my music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/871">TS</a>]

00:14:35   right the even the guys that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   graduated a couple of years before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   went into high school the music that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   they were listening to that was popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   at the time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45   we still claimed as ours new wave punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/885">TS</a>]

00:14:48   rock but also but I mean there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/888">TS</a>]

00:14:53   is like this murder of bands from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/893">TS</a>]

00:14:58   really you know you think of those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   know if I say late 70s hard rock bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   there's like six bands we could all name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   that pretty much everybody liked you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   know everybody liked foreigner everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07   liked Boston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08   almost everybody likes getting head back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   in black yeah well yeah the heavier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   stuff but there was like solid hard rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   that was pretty unobjectionable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   everybody up until it the early eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   when floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   got synthesizers and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   you put that all the way through I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   even in 286 when we were listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28   Glenn Frey and I mean all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/928">TS</a>]

00:15:35   came out of bands of the 70s you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   still make a connection to it yep but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   between 86 when I graduated an 88 two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/941">TS</a>]

00:15:46   years later I still feel like I meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   people in the world and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/949">TS</a>]

00:15:52   think you graduated high school in 88 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   are almost exactly the same generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   but I have feel so much more in common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   with the class of 84 that is that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/960">TS</a>]

00:16:04   really good point yes the end of the 70s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/964">TS</a>]

00:16:08   in some ways yeah and by the time I meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   somebody who graduated in 88 almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   of their cultural touchstones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   different they have different beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   points they're not based in a Arrowsmith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/979">TS</a>]

00:16:23   economy yeah they're based in a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/983">TS</a>]

00:16:26   they they're they came out of they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   out of New Wave and and pop metal in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   totally different way and so I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   always feeling like somebody whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   moment was you know their junior year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/995">TS</a>]

00:16:39   whatever was in the late 80s I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   can't I don't have that I and I felt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:45   even then like what the hell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   happening to you kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   right right right they're games now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52   video games really catching on around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   - yeah and I was 18 years old and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56   already felt like wow and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   Bossier between you between two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   generations that was why that the Guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04   N'Roses record was so powerful because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   it felt like a throwback it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   very odd it was really well crafted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:13   thought it's really authentic I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:16   we'd like to avoid that term run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   show it's been talking about music but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   it felt like now this is the real deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   like this is the shit man well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   those songs were were written in a blues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:27   vernacular they were blue scale songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   and all metal at that time had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   transitioned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   mixolydian you know it had gone it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36   gone through this weird classical this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39   this Yngwie Malmsteen idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   classical music was what we were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   bring into metal got some hard rock to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   difficult rock difficult rock right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50   just like with scalloped stupid you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:56   absolutely right but also you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57   know what somebody's gotta laugh jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   Marilyn are you there here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   so this after that I will do all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   these but here's your run-through feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   run few days out of the year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   includes don't worry be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   Love Bites by Def Leppard the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:11   interesting crazy comeback of red red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12   one by ub40 put on the radio I leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:22   venue ready for this November it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   pretty good you get to Kokomo Kokomo by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:27   the Beach Boys you get wild with so with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   Rob Lowe on drums right now on drums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   know it's the father from the San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   Francisco baby show John Stamos played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   something thank you put a question on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:41   Wow well West bad medicine your love is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   like bad medicine by Bon Jovi you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:48   baby I love your way slash Freiberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   medley by will to power look away by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:54   Chicago and finally you know it buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55   Merry Christmas every rose has its thorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58   by poison annus horribilis that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:04   bad that is such a bad collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   songs and you know that should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   that should have been peak us I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:11   nineteen eighteen nineteen I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   been like mm-hm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   and it was at the time I knew it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   garbage at the time I was listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   the Steve Miller Band because there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   nothing else let's see Oh toy soldiers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:36   now I'm in 289 by Marty I could do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   all day yeah yeah yeah me too but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40   don't want to and and I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   validate that year by talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45   lai was such a race down time and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:49   was I had ejected myself from from youth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53   culture I don't think I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   people now can understand this the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   other thing that was happening he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   culture killed your dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   well it was the 20 year anniversary of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:04   the year that the baby boomers cresteds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:08   of 1968 and there was this total retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:16   60s the 60s are gonna make the 90s look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:20   like the to 2010 it was you had it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:24   88 let's see no it might be 89 when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   had like the harmonic convergence coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   remember that was gonna be a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   yeah harmonic convergence moronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   convergence the bhagwan shree rajneesh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:38   is out there bog warning you got waco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:42   you get your bug wands Bhagwan and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   get your weight go no no that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:49   hippie er that was an again I felt kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   of mad because I've been into the hippie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   stuff a little bit before that so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   thought I was a little bit played well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:57   but it was hippie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   it was hippie music but it was also what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   year did the doors movie come out Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   with what's the same tile Kilmer doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07   yeah I'm gonna say 1990s my guests 91 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:13   okay so what was that right in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   oh my gosh but yet but there was a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:21   and this is before the 80s are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   make those 60s look like the 42s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   mm-hmm there was a there was a Winona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:30   Ryder movie that had Ironman in it oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:37   it's a transition from like brat pack to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   Love Bites no blood bites vote loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   vulgar vulgar what's the what was her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:43   movie with the love rush actually love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:47   stinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:52   no but it was a period piece it was set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:56   in 1968 it may have even been called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   1968 yes and it had like a lot of it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:05   a lot of those scenes where somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   driving a Volkswagen bus and it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   the soundtrack is Crosby Stills and Nash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   [Laughter] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:21   60 song you know yeah who likes can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:28   heat okay who comes home from work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   the 60s and puts on fucking canned heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   I've never understood that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   well that was also the era of singles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   radio everybody was buying 45s then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   you didn't have to I mean there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   there was AM radio and all that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   70s music like long cool woman in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46   black dress like who you know nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   bought a Hollies album but they bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   Hollies single yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   movies 1969 1969 came out in 1980 1969 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:57   is gonna make 1988 look like the 42 s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   that's Robert Downey jr. keep referring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02   to Kiefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:02   Keith er Sutherland you got Bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   different Paul Mariette Hartley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   she's a treat Wynonna Rider mmm 69 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:10   movie and so I so that was that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   where it was like we are like I am 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:17   years old and I am celebrating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   culture of 20 years ago and everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:25   wearing little round glasses and drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   peace signs on their army jackets party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   world party right yes and and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:36   like this it was all it was that feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:40   that that was the high-water mark of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   of the 20th century youth culture and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   don't have our own because punk rock had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   like had become the de-facto youth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:52   culture of of a tiny fraction of youth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:56   and everyone else was just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   listening to dead or alive and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   seen around it right but even the cult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:05   even the cult was putting out sixties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:09   music and rocking 60s Austin Tears for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:14   Fears sowing the seeds of love as a 60s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:17   retro don't you think so no it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:21   basically I mean I've heard talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   this it was very influenced I watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:27   something a cup this is really quick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   week or two ago this amazing recent live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   performance by Tears for Fears which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32   were primarily it's the two guys plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   band people and they sounded fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   great they sounded so good and I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   liked that tune I was lying it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   very emblematic of that new psychedelia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   or you know what I mean kind of updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   psychedelia feeling the Tears for Fears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:48   is an embarrassing moment for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51   one of them one of several right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:55   you get that you encountered throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   life when Tears for Fears was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   radio I despised it and partly it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:04   think I was picking up that that retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:07   psychedelic vibe without really may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   fully grokking where it was coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   but the two guys had such frowny faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:17   they were just like so over serious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   so like over emotive and just dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:24   and it was very synth driven stuff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:28   was I just felt like opposed to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   because there was a lot of catchy pop on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   the radio at the time yeah and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   was also a big period in our lives where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   your reaction to culture was as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40   about oh - talking here about probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   like more of songs from the big chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   than the hurting you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:46   like the shout era right well the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:50   thing was really good I mean you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   right when you turn against a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   though you know and because I'd been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:57   huge flock of seagulls fan everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   else was what turned against him but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   didn't think you could deny those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   singles I thought they were so strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   that you know there wasn't any you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   couldn't futz around home Peter Parker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   goes to the homecoming dance in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   spider-man movie he walks in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   playing space a love song great song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:16   I mean that's not a cultural reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   point for me but yes I get that you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   a spider-man movie once with the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   that just came out made hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   seventeen million dollars and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26   probably the best Marvel movie ever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27   yeah it's the one I'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   you're gonna want to see there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:36   origin story in it it goes straight to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   the meat and he's played by an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   kid it's really nice there's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   scene with the save it for later which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   is a nice song that's a good song you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   know save it for later and happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47   dangerous flight pole-sitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   same exact song cover save it for later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:52   well they did because because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:55   somebody said hey your song is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   as that song and then they covered it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   I kind of like walk those guys the save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:06   it for later dudes the the pop star you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   beat thank you the beat they became big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:15   Harvey danger fans and whenever he yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   whenever the English beat was in town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   they would call Sean and Sean would jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:23   up with them and do save it for later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:28   complicated that's a complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   anecdote so and then Harvey danger would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   do a medley of the two songs but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   got more complicated way English beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   singer guy blondie blondie we call him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:44   according to Sean he started calling him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:48   too much that's nice to hear we can the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1668">TS</a>]

00:28:16   other guy was ranking Roger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:17   I remember ranking Roger yep because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   they were before the English be UK they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   were in they had that earlier BAM that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:26   was even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:27   like a different no Meah no no no you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:32   reversing it the general public and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:33   before general public was devote oh okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   okay that's what it is you know what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:39   racist I am when I only knew them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   having their singles collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:42   what is beat which is a great singles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   collection I thought the black guy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   the singer how about that how's that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48   racism there it is there it is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   gonna think so Dave weakling but back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:57   see ya later on and I'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:02   2002 my good friend the Mike Squires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:10   that we talk about periodically Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   Henson remarks recent let's uh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   he's a piece of problematic figure oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   did he have remarks recently what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   Mike Squires have to say I mean look it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:20   up from the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:23   Mike squares has got a lot to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   because Mike is too dumb to know it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:33   to say here's what happened I was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   Mike's house in in Portland Oregon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   don't know why I probably ran out of gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   or something and then he was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41   guy I knew nearby that had a car I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:45   there you know Mike has a incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:48   vinyl collection that he curates and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:51   is it is really formidable this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:55   collection of vinyl and it's the hairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   he cares and he put on Tears for Fears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1796">TS</a>]

00:30:01   the hurting and he said hey dummy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:06   is a great album and I said yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:11   right I don't like them and he said shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:14   up and listen and he played it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:18   undeniable a classic pop album they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:22   really really good songs and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:25   performance is very distinctive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   musicianship is very high and and as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:32   listened to the record I had gradually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   their frowny faces their dumb British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38   frowny faces went out of my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   and was replaced by this in who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   like what ended up being an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   appreciation of them so now you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   was a late in life like epiphany and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:52   I feel like oh I should have liked them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   all along I like them now a lot I when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   their music comes on I'm always excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   and it was because that big you know Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02   Mike Squires right it had to give me an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   education which I didn't like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08   from him of all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   oh it's kind of a double for you served [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:14   he's given me he served me a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   times that's one of the reasons that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:23   of the reasons history will record him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24   as history's greatest English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   skree politi another one what was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   there's another band what's the one I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   thinking of that got better every album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:29   they had like a screenplay was good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   then there was the one that was the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   that like had an 80's hit that we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   kind of go ha ha ha 80s hit but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   they have like better album after better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   album in the late eighties and early 90s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:39   some space not right now but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:43   it's funny it's like a sweep up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   you get some innocent civilians get get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   swept up in the dragnet and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   that's the case I mean we've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   certainly written off certain songs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   bands because you go oh it's that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:55   and I think that I think that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58   with them well then you know it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   with Tears for Fears but also songs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   the big chair really got the singles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   from that got really overplayed to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   I would dread hearing the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   everybody wants to rule the world yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   absolutely although there were singles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   from that era that got over over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:16   overplayed that I never got tired of so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:20   there was something to that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   wants to rule the world that I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   have a trouble I still have trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   listening to that song it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   jam down my throat if the rides was such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   a prom theme you know it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:33   prom where as I will listen to that Don [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:38   Henley song about the about Central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41   America whatever the fuck that was don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:46   know freaks oh sure right right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   it was to do is dance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:53   Nevada all day and that was on the radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   constantly and that is a pie all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   know by all standards pretty bad but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:02   when that comes on I'm like yeah alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   I'll take it oh sorry yeah thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   technology in your direction I I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   don't want or need an answer now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   it's something I've just been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   about in the back of my mind for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   especially since we've done this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   and talk so much about cocaine in music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18   you don't have to answer this now but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   wonder if you were to cast your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:24   back over the years without knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   specifics necessarily do you how much do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:33   you think you would be able to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   and identify what songs are fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:38   legitimate zeitgeist hits which songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   got pretty puffed up because of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   songs were recorded before SoundScan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   would you be able to identify which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   songs aren't were so improbably popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50   because of paola or similar do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   you could do that would you be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   go back and go oh that's why that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:57   starship was so popular in improbable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   because of cocaine you're saying well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   mean on the one hand okay so I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   to get out these these three axes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   like on the one hand there's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   take a song like what sugar sugar by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   Archies like that's a legitimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   catchy pop song and you can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10   why that would be a really popular song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11   yeah there are others where I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   the story has been told many times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   they flip the switch to SoundScan a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   of stuff changed because I'm not telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   you this I'm telling anybody our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   audience and you correct me if I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   but basically it used to be like pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   much reporting and self reporting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   was a number of Records shipped and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   they will call around and you call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   record store frequently the record store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   would say oh yeah you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33   popular this one album we have way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   many copies of and need to move right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   maybe this on the second level you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39   the dicey recording in the sound scam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   basically brought in this idea of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43   okay here's the reports on what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   actually bought with money in a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   store this week which was revolutionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   because what do we discover hey people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   like hip hop and people like country and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52   country owned the charts for years after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   once they change the way was the codecs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56   measured everything like hip up to right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2096">TS</a>]

00:35:00   hip hop took over from there absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   well Ian like I think it probably helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   a lot to realize wow this stuff actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   is really selling very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   and it's getting at that point we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   seeing a little poppier but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   wonder I just sometimes wonder like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   know just a little bit little bit Alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   Jones conspiracy theory stuff here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15   like I wonder like if with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   particular lens if you think you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   go back and go like oh that explains why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   we heard so much like Def Leppard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:26   don't like that flip I you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   sorry I don't like post photograph Def [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:32   Leppard's so much but I understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   they're popular it was like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   was poppy you know uh that one guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:40   Shania Twain's ex you know that God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:44   needs a pop you know I'm saying though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   do you think you could go back would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46   be able to eyeball it and know which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47   ones were pretty much straight up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   here's some cocaine play this album I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50   feel I feel like the others the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   thing in there is that again because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:57   was hard to know whose culture we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00   we were dealing with at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   because the baby boomers like do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:05   remember the tape TV show 30-something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   right the baby boomers were in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:11   mid-30s which now we think of because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   you and I are in our 40s or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   around our 40s you know we look at 34 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:25   year olds and say I mean 34 you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   like getting started you're just a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   you're only just getting normal right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   now come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33   34 like finally you're kicking into gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36   right when you're 29 you think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   anything but by 34 you're like okay yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   and at the time right we were teenagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   third polls seemed like they were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   know they like might as well give up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   mean you're already you've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   transitioned to irrelevant adulthood but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:56   that was the baby boomers then and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   were still they were so much larger a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   generation than we were that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   still shoving heard it through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   grapevine down our throats right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07   they were still out like a predominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:10   market force well and they were the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:13   self-congratulatory generation of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   time and the most like self you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   just like soaking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19   their own their own at what turns out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   be fairly recent past and so what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:26   have is which job is Jefferson Airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   turning into Jefferson Starship who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   actually had a couple of pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:35   hits in the late seventies yes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:39   pretty good rock songs and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:43   switch over to Jefferson or they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   switch over to starship right and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:49   get two or three - I think just gimme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:55   hits where it's like they've earned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58   somehow they are in the in that oral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:03   history of we built the city Grace Jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   it basically said like I would make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   money like I want to recount what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:07   you able to retire whatever it takes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10   would like a giant giant hit please and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11   thank you and so and what they had then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:14   was the pre SoundScan they had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:18   goodwill and the relationships with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:22   music business people who again were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   like pre 40 years old and they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:29   just say here's our new record make it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   hit and they're A&R and they're then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34   president of the record company had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35   probably made his bones to Jefferson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:39   Airplane and it was and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42   look at that 80's heart record where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46   heart was like incredible band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   throughout the 70s is so good in the 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:53   it was just like what are you doing stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   please don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56   and I love those girls and I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59   know I'm really good friends with one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   the women that that co-wrote some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   their songs who's a Seattle a luminary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:08   and and grammy-winning artist and Linda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   what's week one of my favorite no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   not not Linda what's her name okay she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:18   didn't write she didn't co-write like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:19   the big seventies hits but she she was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   she was a friend and a co-writer with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:23   them but during the era that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:30   those those those mid-80s to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:35   like these dreams yeah it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   a knife in my heart yeah no pun intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:42   and then you get then you get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   members of the Eagles and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   members of Genesis and all the members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:49   of you know and you get the Rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   Stones solo records and it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   payday for all these people that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   that had made you know made their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01   epaulettes throughout the 70s that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:05   were still in charge of the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   there wasn't anything there were no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08   upstarts right and punk rock was kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:12   out for the most part I mean new wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   was was gathered together and and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:17   into and and like almost immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:20   defanged and turned into bubblegum music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:24   but that's what I account for that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:28   think cocaine is accessory to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:33   that whole generation also was was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:37   know like had the incredible bad cocaine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:40   judgment think about the Eric Clapton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:44   hits of the eighties and then that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:56   eighties blues revival with BB King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2456">TS</a>]

00:41:00   suddenly being a huge star and Robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:04   Cray and you got the Stevie Ray Vaughan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:07   circa 85 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:08   yeah and Stevie Ray is just he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   playing Texas Hendrix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   those are good albums in their killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   albums yeah killer who's rockin ZZ Top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   you get you from your buddies in ZZ Top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   kind of like we can't we can't talk shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:23   about southern rock oh no no I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   talking shit about any of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   in that case but no you're right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:27   like yeah Clapton had the he did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:31   new version the slow version of after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   midnight he did what was this other big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:37   stuff you're right though yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   right you're right those inner everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   was not cashing in is the wrong word cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   doesn't totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   caPSURE it it was more like it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   some credibility bond had matured and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:49   they were apart like a lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   were cashing in bits of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   credibility bond at that point do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   and yeah absolutely and one of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:57   of the ones that I would make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58   exception for is permanent vacation by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   Aerosmith which was Aerosmith's comeback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:06   longest run DMC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   mmm-hmm like Run DMC pulled Aerosmith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:12   out of the trash bin of history weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   amazing what an amazing how did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   ever happen story when you really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   about it well yeah and it just and I run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21   DMC gave us such an education in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   early days in history of hip hop by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   doing that just like this is how we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   it we took these records that have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   cool breaks like oh no no no no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   and we just looped them and wrapped over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   them so that's how it started so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   thanks a lot we're gonna give this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   little like we're gonna throw this bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41   to Aerosmith who have been I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44   there's a there's a great story in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   Aerosmith autobiography of Joey Wanaka [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   or whatever where he's driving his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51   Ferrari on the highway on like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   interstate 95 or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:57   and he's just like so drugged out he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:02   not paying attention and a semi truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   stops on the highway in front of him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   he just drives the Ferrari right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   underneath that's right up underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09   the semi I guess he has time that's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   to duck and there was some scene in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   in the recording studio with those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:18   where where somebody was shooting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   crossbow like in the studio I mean those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23   guys should have there's not a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   member of Aerosmith that should be alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   and then they came out with that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   permanent vacation which although it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:34   features the garbage track dudes look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   dude looks like a lady mm-hmm it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:41   was a killer record it had killer tunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   on it is that is that also like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   beginning of the Alicia Silverstone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   videos era that came that came later you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:52   know permanent vacation was the was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   tour that Guns and Roses Oak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   for Aerosmith really I think also it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   didn't didn't that Linda what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00   name right some of those primitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   vacation to her name its anon blonde [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:09   lady right didn't she write no that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   that has to be later hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   poor not Blanc he came later okay so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   got hard time dude looks like a lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   ragdoll 1989 you got pump like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:28   trucks having intercourse look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   yeah lava and I when pump came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:35   I'd been a permanent vacation fan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   remember walking down the streets of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   some little town and there was a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   store and prominently featured in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   window was the record cover of pump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   their new album which they had raced out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   you know pretty pretty quickly after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   permanent vacation and I felt that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   feeling of like we're feeling you used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   to get in Europe when you would see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59   something American and feel a kinship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:03   with it immediately because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   Europe European still had mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   positive feelings about America and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   there would be something in the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   of a shop that was like the new record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   from American band Aerosmith and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:19   like that's right that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20   how you like how you like us now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21   Frenchie's yeah listen to Aerosmith I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25   bet I don't know I'm not saying I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:39   pick it out but you know it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   another data point is all I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   it's a very confusing time and I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   we might be too close to it to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50   properly analyze it because every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   you think you've got the 80s by by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   nose then you know then somebody throws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   out some new thing where it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   well what do you have to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   Metallica mmm-hmm and then you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   ah fuck what it Metallica how does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   where does that fit into anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   first the first suit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   like ride the lightning how do you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   do you account for that so it's um yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:18   it's it's a little bit of a what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   that what was it what was that ban I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23   trying to remember the ban the very late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:24   eighties band where the singer was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:28   Cokie just frenetic high-energy dancey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:32   music and the singer had like colored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35   dreads that were he was a white guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   colored dreads piled up on top of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:39   head and he was dancing around just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   flailing waving his arms it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   beginning of that era where music videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   happened on a completely white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   background music that would become like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:52   yeah unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:53   like would become that kind of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   yeah that stuff were pre delight mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:58   like dance music but but done as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:02   it's rock it's not Jamiroquai that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:07   later on no that's later on big hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   music there was that video of a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:17   like maybe they even had two hits or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   had two heads it was a guy that wore his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:22   hat down over his face and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   never see his face cuz he had his hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25   down over his eyes it was a type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   thing and and the the cover of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   record was just the bottom of his tennis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   shoes you could kind of see him in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   background there's a lot of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   it really appeals to the English like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38   English pop music fan the the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   device of like this guy wears his hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   down over his eyes and it's like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   the hit of the summer like how does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:50   British pop market like understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   itself how can you look yourself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56   these it selves in the eye with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   chain saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59   what was that remember the band with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:04   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   guy would play chainsaws v Bend with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:12   chainsaw hmm what was that what was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:15   band what band with chain saw don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:20   overthink no my eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:26   Kyl Jekyll you wonder are they Christian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:31   Wow yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   the this my friend here in Seattle who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   co-wrote heart songs did not write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   the early 70s once but did I'm now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:40   researching did co-write straight on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43   coming straight up to you yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   even it up these are killer man killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:50   late seventies heart tunes right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:54   want to think it's all Barracuda but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   then you like heart kept it comin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   yeah and then dog and butterfly which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   was a song that that Ken Stringfellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   and I covered on the Ken Stringfellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:07   tour where the long winters were his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   backing band oh I was I was at that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12   so I don't know if I mentioned that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   you you met Scott Miller that man I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   ever mentioned it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:21   right right so so there were there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   several phases of heart the several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   phases of heart but oh the 80s heart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:31   then you know then heart brought it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   of course by by the grunge era like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:37   I think I think heart saw themselves or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   they saw grunge in themselves not least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   because Cameron Crowe made the it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:45   Nancy Wilson like crossover but yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:49   she's doing soundtracks and songs for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   his films a lot right mmm that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:56   thing that is a thing that is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   yeah no I'm not criticizing I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   saying no no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   if I could do soundtracks for Cameron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   Crowe films I would I heard I heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:10   and you know when you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11   like Ann Wilson was 30 years old in 1990 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:20   what is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   no she's gotta be older than that Oh 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   years old 40 years old but still yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   mean 46 young kids good deal older than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30   Cameron right well that I was talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   and I'm you know I'm lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   I'm looking at the Internet which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:41   for a great podcast well uh I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:45   through the grapevine that Cameron Crowe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48   was a fan of a long winter oh I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:52   like you might have mentioned this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   were waiting for a call for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   weren't you have this is one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:56   grapevine situations where you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   how do I verify that right who do I call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:03   to say hey I hear you yeah you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:35   him like one time one time we played in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:39   New York City and and after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:43   somebody said oh AC Newman was here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   was like AC Newman was that a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   winter show oh yeah yeah it's great yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   you know big fan of the band big fan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   so then I'm like oh shit AC Newman's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   big fan of the band yeah that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3116">TS</a>]

00:52:00   deal I mean I mean you're like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03   it's like it's got Miller type situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   like when there's somebody who's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06   you're special like you know don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   creepy about it but like you know Zuppa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   know and New Pornographers were like man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   that was that was my jam yeah sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   mean he's one of the great pop song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   writers of our race he's got that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20   of like at least maybe less so now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:23   you know they've kind of the people know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   them and stuff but like or like Ted Leo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   frig's it for that matter where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   tough we were like no but like that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29   special secret band and like to even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   inkling that they might even know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:32   you are such a big deal that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   well and so every time I would see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   at like festivals or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:40   I would kind of roll up on him he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:45   a reason I roll up kind of guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   what's up how's it going car going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:54   through it perverted guys super you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3174">TS</a>]

00:53:07   we'd always have a super smile on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   face but I'd be like remember me if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:16   were at our show you were at our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:20   yeah he was always really friendly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   we had we used to have fun on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   internet together but you know but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   definitely like feel like I kind of was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:30   so glad that he was at that chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   question John if there should be a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   to ask like you know and this hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   gotten you past though means so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38   both of us got it's best so many all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   great shows and moments there should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   some kind of a code where we just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   wrong idea who I am like really awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:48   four four four six minutes to 14 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:52   well this was always my thing with Doug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   Marsh I would roll up on him at every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   single event and Doug Marsh's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   introverted as a fucking clam I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   know oh yeah open to show a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   and you're like hello and he squirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   saltwater slams shut and I'd be like hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:10   it's me again John Roderick and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:25   even gonna try the you know if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   standing next to him at a buffet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   backstage somewhere and he takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   strawberry maybe I'll take a strawberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   but I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   like hey look at us - strawberry loving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:45   the Cameron Crowe thing I actually went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48   to my people various people publicist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:52   agent you know and I was like hey the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:56   word on the street and I cannot tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   where this word came from at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   probably could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   now I have no recollection but Cameron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   Crowe is a fan of the long winter so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:08   guys do your job and figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:12   get cameron crowe to do something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:16   he loves me publicly and you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19   people were just like huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:20   what yeah I don't you know we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:23   his phone number and it's really a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   workflow for this particular kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28   yeah just like I'll call his people Hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:32   hi this is Joe publicist can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:41   find out from Cameron if he's ever heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   of John Roderick just don't don't make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   big deal out of it yeah do you like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   yes or no check one exactly and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:52   the it still is possible that one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   he'll make one of those classic Cameron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   Crowe films and there will be a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   winter song in it and I'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   validated mm-hmm life validation the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:05   song lumberjack was released by jackal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   JC k yl in 1991 here's some the lyrics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:12   was born in the backwoods of a two-bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15   nowhere town fathered up some rock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   roll baby so your mothers could boogie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18   down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:19   I ain't whistling Dixie no I'm a rebel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:22   with a groove all the way from the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   they go round and round when they dig on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   my new stainless steel sound wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:29   minute was that a rat reference was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   a little like tap a little rat reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   there they go rap baby I'm a lumberjack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:37   baby I'm gonna cut you down to size I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:38   a lumberjack baby and you're the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   that gets my prize when you hear my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   motor running you know I surely be cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   and a rise so I'm gonna crank it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   cut it down no no none of them I have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:51   interesting story about that the jackals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   the lumberjack okay yeah which is I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:59   so I took my daughter to a choir class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02   which is like little girl little girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   choir apparently at the level of choir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:09   the genders are really separated still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:13   because there is girl choir and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   no idea where there is whether there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   boy choir because I have a little girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   and you are not given access to boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   choir and there are no boys at all at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:25   girl choir okay not only know little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   boys but also there are no boys in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   form of adult people's waiting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   hall even it's like a very mom daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:37   kind of situation they got a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:40   separate building if there is a boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:41   choir it ain't in here I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   where they are and I don't know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:44   their concerts are I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   whether they even exist to check out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   but I said you know I said I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:52   little girl I want her to go to choir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:53   obviously for obvious reasons I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   choir and choir is important and so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3475">TS</a>]

00:58:00   I'm the dad at choir who's standing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:03   the hall listening to them you know sing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:06   the ABC song because they're little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:07   girls and they've you know that not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   single one of them can carry a tune and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:13   so I'm out in the hall and I'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14   to the other moms and we're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:18   talking mom stuff and the choir the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:23   little girl choir that's happening is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   happening in one of what we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   describe as Seattle's more affluent yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:31   still downtown neighborhoods okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34   it's not one of the affluent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   neighborhoods where people have moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   out to the suburbs and have just abandon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:41   all hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:41   it's the downtown neighborhood where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   people are buying 1902 houses with eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:48   bedrooms in them and God knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   doing what with them why there are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   two bedrooms that are just full of junky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   kids toys because nobody needs an eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   bedroom house to get a gift-wrapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   room you get a mudroom yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   this is my office and that's daddy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   office and never come into my office you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   can come into my house but not my den [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   right exactly don't go into Daddy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   library and it's because one or both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:14   them work at either Microsoft or Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:17   maybe Starbucks and they just have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20   money than they know what to do with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   they but they want to retain their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   downtown miss so they buy a house in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:27   anyway so I'm talking and there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   lot of people like that that meet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   criteria at the playground that's around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:34   my daughter's school because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   school in the neighborhood where my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   daughter school is it either the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   that live there are either University of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   Washington professors and it's the class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   it's the traditional neighborhood of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:46   that or people that that have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:50   short commute to the Microsoft campus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:55   but still live in town anyway so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   talking to the moms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   talking to the moms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   and one of them says you know one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   them kind of has this like East Coast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05   accent and we get talking and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08   well yeah you know I moved out here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:13   know sort of in the 90s and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:17   now we live in this big house and I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:18   of you know got this little girl a mom a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:22   mom ended up and I'm like I'm mom ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25   up too and I was here in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   nineties like did you move here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   grunge and she said grunge yeah I hated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:35   grunge I was like you hated grunge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:40   and I are the same age fish and you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:43   in Seattle in 1991 what the hell were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:46   you doing here mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   we didn't allow 22 year olds to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51   here who hated grunge why would you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   here and she her face lit up and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:59   said I was I'm from Philly and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:05   part of the New Jersey hair metal scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:09   of the late 80s and I was like say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:13   and I pulled up a like a church pew and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:24   you know and she's not rocking any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   that now she's rocking like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   rocking yeah hella fide rich mom thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:35   and she but all of a sudden her face is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:36   transformed and she was like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39   like I was a high school dropout from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42   inner-city Philly neighborhood and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   would go over to to Trenton and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:48   eventually like I hooked up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   guys and warrant or whatever I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   like she listed all these bands and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   recognized them all but it was my occur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   to you that you that these bands sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01   millions of albums and probably there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   were hundreds of people doing what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:04   did oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah and but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:08   of a sudden I'm looking at her and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09   just like it's one of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   you look at it you look at kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   a holographic overlay of some historic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:18   you look at the thing and then you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   at the holographic overlay of it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:21   like holy shit that's what before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   tore all the buildings down and I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   her with hair this poodle hair that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   like foot and a half high and spandex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   and like hanging out with these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:34   guys with the pointy guitars and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   like Jesus Christ I need to know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   about this yes and she said I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   was part of that scene and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   hardcore she's rocking cigarette warrant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:48   that's a name I haven't heard yet right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   and all of a sudden heard like the her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:52   heels get spiky ear and she and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:57   smoking more and we're talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:01   time you know that we're we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:05   about like Bon Jovi era but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:09   lightly post Bon Jovi's big fame when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   everybody in New Jersey was a was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   poodle poodle metal guy mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   and she says we lived we lived this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:19   incredible life it was a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22   moment in in history from 85 to 90 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:28   was tending bar and I you know I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:32   even I hadn't even graduated from high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   school and we were playing metal and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   were partying and then grunge I was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:42   like wait wait wait this is where my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   story picks up ye let me make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:49   connection let me feel this let me feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   this moment let me feel your anger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54   frustration because I've only read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   this in magazines you were there and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3836">TS</a>]

01:04:00   this was not LA Sunset Strip this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   the The Stone Pony in fucking like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:11   like sewer killed New Jersey right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:16   she said I realized that my life was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:21   head was like a dead end and I went on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:25   road trip to Princeton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   and you know met somebody in a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:30   store and I was like how do you how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   you guys how do what does one have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   in life to live in a place with trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:37   and the person at Princeton was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:40   well you go to college and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:45   live where there are trees and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   like I had never seen a tree let alone a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:52   bunch of trees all together where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:56   blocked the Sun and was shady and cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   and she said she had this incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   moment where she where she said I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   gonna go to college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   and she did and she moved to Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:09   with her already feeling like she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   too grown-up for for rock and roll Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:15   and like went to university became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:19   computer person worked in computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:23   retired like met her husband who had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:27   know had gone to Cambridge or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:31   and had 25 degrees in computer science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   and now they live in this beautiful home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   and her story was one of these stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38   that was just gonna walk past me on 15th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   Avenue I was gonna be up there looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:43   for looking for a shade-grown coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   beverage that had been cold brewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:48   somewhere and she was gonna be walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   by with some bag of organic things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:55   her way somewhere else and we would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   be two ships passing in the night and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   would see her and just be like oh what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:00   up you know rich mom from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:01   neighborhood and she would say like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   would pass me and not even notice me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   because I just because I look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   somebody that's delivering things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   yet here it was like history in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:13   making so I went over to her house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:16   she pulled a photo album you're kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:19   dad no no no I rolled over and peered at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:25   the window it's me hi remember me from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:29   girls choir you've got really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:35   furniture I like your hair like that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   she was like come over and see my shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   and so she pulls out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   and it's like she's laying across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   hood of a Camaro the whole time there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   are and warranty COO Carrillo or whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:49   standing there twirling drumsticks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:52   it's just like what am I looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:57   is something that I never never thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   that I would I never thought that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   would be like so close to in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04   what I regard as the enemy and so she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   got a daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08   approximately your daughter's age yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   so interesting yeah yeah and yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:16   and she's she is like that this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:19   these these photo albums are like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   Attic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:22   this is her past that that she never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:25   talks about never gets to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28   both because I don't think anybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   her circles are interested and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:34   not relevant it's not relevant to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   she's doing now but I you know as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   as I dragged that church pew over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:42   was like I sat down and I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   tell me right now everything and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:47   like wow really and the more she talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:50   the more I was like yes more more MORE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   tell me everything tell me about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:53   culture tell me about your way and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56   know the streets of Philadelphia like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   this is all just stuff that exists in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:01   a mythological context to me well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   like it's almost like it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:04   like Quadrophenia or I'm thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:07   like that Twisted Sister documentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:08   which is really surprisingly good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   like you realize there's this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11   like you know just cuz you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   thought about her it's not your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:14   like one may not realize there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   incredibly rich and nuanced and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:20   potentially very subtle subculture going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:23   around about this thing yeah well heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:26   metal parking lot is what it is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   she was heavy metal parking lot and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:32   watched that film oh my god as though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35   was a as though it was a message beamed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   from outer space that's what it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   like yeah yeah this is real that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:42   wasn't a rat concert it's a rat concert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:43   right no a goose priest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   oh of course Judas Priest what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47   it was rad was right opening for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   maybe maybe you know the first rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:52   concert I ever saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:54   was do with Dakin Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:58   and and I always put Dakin and wrap I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:04   feel like they were contemporaries and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   feel like they were very much more New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:09   Jersey than they were LA although I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:14   be wrong Browns was rockin I saw rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   open for Billy Squier 1984 and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:21   with Billy Squier was that some emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   in motion era yeah that was pre-ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:26   no no I think it was that was I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:29   was rocking me tonight probably my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   girlfriend that was her her jam she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:33   really she was let me put it let me put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:36   it frankly she was very sexually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:37   attracted to play square and she liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40   she liked me dancing around in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:41   video she liked it a lot I'm going here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:46   I'm going here to rat and I see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:49   looking at rats looking just at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:52   search records it appears that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   already clicked on rats Wikipedia entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   recently enough that it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   color George Lynx was George Lynch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:04   doctor I know he's in Dakin was he in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   rat at one point well so here are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:10   members of rat George and this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   is what makes me feel like it's a Jersey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:15   hmm Carlos Cavazos warranty party me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18   that's the one right warranty one I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:23   they all they're all part of we passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   it does say they're from Los Angeles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:28   that's weird now that's got to be that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   got to be a typo they should be from New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   Jersey well maybe when maybe they moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:36   maybe they moved the origins of rat go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   back as far as 1973 in Hollywood so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:42   apparently they didn't move I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:48   where's the bandanna for professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:49   reasons is that is it well isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:52   true also of the guy from who's the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:56   that has a second career as a reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   star with the long blonde hair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   always wears a bond bandanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03   oh right there Bret Michaels a Bret Bret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   Michaels he's poison right yeah what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:10   going on under that man Dawkins from LA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:14   to hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15   Rodgers rocking rocking with Dakin mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:19   the guy the guy from Dakin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:22   george'll in Georgia and she had that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   had the tips remember yeah and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   one of those like lower tier B grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:30   metal guitar players that I still liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   oh he was great Paris is burning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34   breaking the chains that stuff was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   when I went to see them he had a sticker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:40   on his guitar that said balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:47   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:51   [Laughter] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMwSgPw/4311">TS</a>]