00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of Rodrick on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:19 ◼ ► hello hi John I'm herbals how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/19">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► good do I detect in your voice at own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/28">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► world weariness now yes I stayed up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/32">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► little too late watching TV but I'm good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► mm-hmm were you watching Indiana Jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► and the Last Crusade no but I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► one were you know oh no no I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/43">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► everything is better than the second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/52">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► well and then there's the other 'mo we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► don't talk about there's a third one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► that's even worse hmm it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► Godfather 3 type situation is it let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► say you had to watch that or matrix 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► for all eternity ah you know I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► seen then the other two Matrix movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/72">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► and it seems like there is a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► consensus that they are not very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/78">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► and then there's a die-hard group that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► thinks one of them is really pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► yeah how do you saying I haven't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► haven't seen the other two Matrix movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► category of like why listen to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► my bloody valentine records no I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► know yeah yeah it's it's frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► I mean matrix is good but it but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► was a little bit old yeah a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► old for it did I ever ever tell you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► story of how I saw the matrix this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► about 1998 1998 that's right um I was uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/110">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► I was walking down the street in Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► just Boop b'doop b'doop n' come on in 98 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/120">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► or 99 um it might have been mainly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/124">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► theaters in 99 but I think officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► let me look I think oh you know what 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/129">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► look at those 99 yep no you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► that's right that's right much 31st 1980 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/137">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► and I had just learned that the western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/143">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► state hurricanes were breaking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► because we'd gotten back from our South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► by Southwest trip and I'd written a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► bunch of new songs and I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► excited and we we met for our first band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► practice after we got back from the tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/160">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► you know we got back and we we relaxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► and didn't you know didn't get together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► for a week or two a couple of weeks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► then it's like let's get back together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► band practice and we all show up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► we've got some shows booked including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► our first-ever headlining of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► box a really big deal and Seattle Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► and we're in the practice base and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► get in there and we and I'm like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/187">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► god you guys I've got like four new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/191">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► songs this is gonna be amazing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/192">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► drummer and bass player have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/197">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► meeting in secret and they say and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/198">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► said let me let me put this all in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/202">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► head because I honestly think that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► put our shit on and practiced we played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/208">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► and then took a break and during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/213">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► break they said we're quitting the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/218">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► well like it was a lead a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► yeah it wasn't even you know they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► like call and leave a voicemail or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► something it was just like and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► what are we doing why are we why did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► put Y did we just practice for an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► and a half and they're like oh well do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► you know who knows why they who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► why they were like they were but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► turned out that they didn't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/246">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► we've gone on this week-long tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► ten-day tour they they decided they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► didn't like touring and being in a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► because they didn't have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/255">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► pillow every night and they had a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► their jobs lined up the drummer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► going to be a copywriter for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► sports equipment company and the bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► player was going to go work at Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► and I was pretty mad but exceptionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/274">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► sad because I had I'd this was this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/280">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► had staked my hopes on this you guys had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► a bullet you were gone places that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► right when they brought it to you their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► practice was not indicative I they felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/292">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► something you could negotiate or talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► them out of no they were pretty smug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► dudes and thought that they had it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► figured out I mean they always acted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► like they had it all figured out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► they had it all figured out here too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► they just you know this has been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► factor a lot lately for me where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/311">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► feel like your reality and someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► else's reality just aren't sharing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► same parameters yeah like you the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/322">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► coexisting and of course they do there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/328">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► they are able to co-exist there here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► the world at the same time together it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► June for me and it's June for you but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► there cosmology somehow this breaking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► the band didn't preclude continuing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/345">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► practice mm-hmm and I think I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► was because you know we did have a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► coming up and I say that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► well except for the exhibit to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► the show coming up is the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► the show coming up is that it continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► our career in the job of playing shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► like the show itself isn't isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/370">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► you know like it's not that we throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► ourselves on the sword and make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/377">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► sacrifice in order to play this show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► itself there's only one reason to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► the show and that is to continue to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► shows although we did end up playing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► final show but I didn't want it suffice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/389">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► to say after they said we're breaking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/394">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► the band I didn't want to go back in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► practice more Sundays just call it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► yeah but this whole like why is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/400">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► a thing is really well it's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/405">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► moment where you have to break down your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► reality and say where am I missing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► peace cuz there you know I can't just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► them right there's got a beauty to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/419">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► to have to be still can't figure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► one out that makes you wonder if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► maybe we mostly got lucky for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► time and seeming to have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► reality and that the Venn diagram just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► happened to be like sailing over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► same little area of the pool for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► time you know I mean maybe I wonder like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► I wonder if it's always been this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/441">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► and I just never realized it yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► well and what an end and it makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/444">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► wonder like how is it that I seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► successfully sharing a single reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► with a lot of people is that also untrue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► am i it is it is it just that I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/458">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► most cases I haven't stumbled into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► way and stumbled into the little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► hole in the ground where all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/470">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► if only there you see the same green- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► thumbnail if only there was some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► a movie that you could have gone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/482">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► around that time that would help clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► the idea that maybe reality isn't what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► it seems so I'm walking down the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► in downtown Seattle I have no idea why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► I'm downtown and I'm just like bummed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/493">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► I'd had an opportunity to go to South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► Africa that spring with the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/499">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► of Washington compared to the history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► ideas class and we were going to study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► the Truth and Reconciliation committee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/509">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► and my advisor Jim Klaus had said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/510">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► don't want I don't want you down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► as a as a student I want you to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► the students and then write a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► what happens like it was very thrilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► it felt like a super secret spy mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► to go do some world historical college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► work and if I'd done it I would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► ecology right now probably and I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/533">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► opportunity to go down there and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/539">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► said I swear to you this was in October [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/540">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► or November of the following year they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► were like you can't leave dude the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► is blowing up you can't just go for go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/549">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► to South Africa and expect to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► and the band will still be here wait how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► are you how long before the breakup was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► this well we broke up in March and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► were saying this to me in October [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/561">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► November and so I looked at my life at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/562">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► that moment that crossroads where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/567">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► like if I go left I'm going to South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► Africa to write a book about the Truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► and Reconciliation committee that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► really heavy and cool unlike what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► been what I've been aiming toward in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► college life for a long time something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► like cool but if I go right I'm in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► successful finally in a successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► popular band that might have a shot at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► being rock and roll and I went to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/590">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► professor and he was like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► you got it this is one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► you got to choose and I said I made that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/600">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► I made the decision based on the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► that which thing is less likely to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► available to you which which thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► more strike while the iron's hot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► the shot of being a rocking rock star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► the shot of being a university professor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► and it seemed like if you don't take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► rock and roll shot when it comes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► never going to come again and so I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► I couldn't go to South Africa and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► super bummed and then we went down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► South by Southwest and we came back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► the band broke up because they got jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► as copywriters and they didn't like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► be on they didn't like to be in the van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► you know anyway I'm walking down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► street I'm super bummed I'm dragging my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► feet and I hear beep beep and I turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/652">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► around and there's Death Cab for Cutie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► the entire band all in their van and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► recollection is that it was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/662">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► scooby doo van hey guys like there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/666">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► it's a rootbeer Brown like 80s Ford van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► and and depend in my memory there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► four of them hanging out the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► like wait like the Cosby kids yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► exactly like they're all they don't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► in the van because they're they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► cartoon heads right they're so big that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► they that they drive with their heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► out of the van like here we come walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► down your street and they're like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/695">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► are you doing man and you know they live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► in Bellingham right so so uh so I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► ah the West would say hurricane breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► up and they're like what get in the van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/707">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► and so I got in a van and they drove me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► to Bellingham because there was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/714">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► nothing at you know I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► anything going on huh drove me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► Bellingham and we all went to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► matrix which was a movie that I had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► even heard of at that point because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► hadn't been following the trades we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► we got to the movie theater and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► like come on we're gonna go see a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► you know I was 29 at this point and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► were all 22 23 so it was so it was so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/738">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► always felt a little bit like okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► guys I'll go to the movies with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► it was it was great and it was great not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► necessarily because the matrix was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► but because there wasn't anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► that before and then and I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► any foreshadowing and I just went into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► this movie and I'll stretch a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► feeling yeah yeah it was it was neat so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/762">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► sentimentality around the first Matrix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► movie and I can't separate it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► whether or not I think it's a good movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► because I suspect that it doesn't acquit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/777">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► narratives to line up - you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/784">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► mean I do yeah I watch it again not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► partly to figure out like when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► going to be appropriate to show this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► my kid answer not yet um but uh man it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/794">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► it still looks really good it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/799">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► quote-unquote old as it is it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► feels pretty fresh and it's I mean maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► again maybe I'm just reliving my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► you know watching of it but it also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► it still feels like this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► movies I don't know what like 2001 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► Star Wars or I don't know there's lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► of movies like that where like it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► difficult to when you go back and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► movies that were made after this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► know like every phone looks like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► iPhone now it's like that movie wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► just the bullet time I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► everything being green had already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► going on for a while but it was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► audacious the two of them the Wachowski [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► czar so audacious about how they present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► things and they're not above like like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► superhero shot of the team coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► the door and like it's just it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/845">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► the wrong I think it's still really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/846">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► I I mean my question to you is are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/849">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► of the matrix tropes - it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► that effect where you watch it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► you're like it feels uh it feels cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/858">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► subsequently stole from it does it feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► like tripe right right right I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/866">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► I mean you know bullet time filming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► became kind of a fad but it doesn't hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► that they did it was used in the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► of the story so well like that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► sort of like pre credit scene when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► they're about to find Carrie Moss and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► she's just standing in that room like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► staring and then you know she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► starts kicking the shit out of everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/890">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► and like it's it's I think it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► looks fantastic it's it's a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/893">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► audacious movie I mean maybe a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► bit I mean in a different way sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► like guardians of the galaxy we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/901">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► like you know if you told somebody the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/902">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► but it's the implementation it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/906">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► it's so well implemented I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/907">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► don't think it feels dated at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► think there's a lot of like mumblecore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► for the last 10 years that is aged a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► more poorly uh you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/914">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► personally sorry I did not mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► culturally-appropriate you're mumbling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► um tell me very briefly with no spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► alerts because I know how passionately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► people feel about spoilers um tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/935">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► how you feel about the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► guardians of the galaxy movie which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► have to assume you saw an opening day we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► saw it pretty early on well I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/946">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► went in with as much as I tried to mute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/950">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► thoroughly I enjoyed the first one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► remember you talking about I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► what two three years ago when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► mentioned you saw it I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► hear what you thought because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► scared you wouldn't like it and I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► sad you know it's one of those I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► like there's I've been struggling for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► while not a cop with a name for certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► kinds of media properties you can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/971">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► intellectually we were like for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► obvious example dismiss right where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/977">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► like you know just give me that one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► I'm not gonna I'm not trying to persuade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/980">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► you to like this but this is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► that I like and that's just how it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► when you try to persuade me to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► Smith for a long time I think I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► I tried to correct you on how wrong you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► are about this mess but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► I'd wanted you to like become a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► fan but uh I went into it and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/994">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► you know it um there's there's a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► several things about it on several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► levels that I didn't love one of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► was like the team being split up like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► lot of the fun throw us a movie the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► sometimes like in like a rogue one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► that makes sense but like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► Orion you know any the Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► you go off and have your little side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► adventures and stuff but you eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► get back together and ya get the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► together yeah I mean by me a lot of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► I mean they have their reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► making it the way they did but it had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► lot of the the pixie dust that made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► first one special like the whole opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► sequence with Groot dancing around is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► really cute I think groots cuteness is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► little bit overused and I'm a big Groot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► fan not by large I thought it was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► I thought it was good but it's i damning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► it with faint praise because i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► first one so much and the basic test for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► all these kinds of things this goes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► Pixar's goes for Miyazaki this goes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► any of these Marvel movies especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► with genre movies it's really comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► to how much I think about it after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► leave the theater and I just I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► what happened in the movie and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► absolutely paying attention it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► didn't it didn't feel you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► there's this irony especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► superhero movies about like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► bigness of the adventure is not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► you know the big Highness of the stakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► does not always pay off and how it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► rolled out and so like for example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► Netflix shows like daredevil the stakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► are smaller but you're way more invested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► so I don't know I'm kind of rambling but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► like I wanted to love it as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► loved the first one which is such a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► bar but I thought it was merely good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► mm-hmm what about you well you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► experience of the first one was going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► again with some you know some group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► 22 year olds in a van pulled up and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► let's go to the movies I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► which band it was I was like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► I'll go to the movies with you some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► of superhero movie and I had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► here's the thing right I don't I am such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► a such a non participate in Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► Comics culture that I had never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► guardians of galaxy I had never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► any of the characters in it or any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► the tangential characters I did not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► any I had nothing I was like guardians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► of the galaxy okay whatever you say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► I honestly even after I left the theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► afterwards I thought it was a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► discrete creation like they had invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► those characters for the purposes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► this movie only I didn't realize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► pre-existed right right as a as a comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► book I guess right I think even even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► fairly ardent reader of comics over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► years would describe them as probably at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► best obscure there it's definitely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► like an Iron Man kind of you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► level set of characters but I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► the team's changed over time and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► don't think it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► like Alpha Flight like how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► besides you know Wolverine can people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► name from Alpha Flight near the list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► the items but just in a sense that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► it was not it was it really felt like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► like a Hail Mary in terms of bringing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► these characters that the garden-variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► comic fan is not familiar with in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► has probably never heard of and couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► pick out of a lineup yeah and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► know where is the on paper like how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► this going to be how is anybody going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► identify with this or you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► where is the how is this a franchise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► right right and and I went and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► movie starts out and here the the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► comes with his goggles and he and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► puts his cassette out there on a bow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► starts dancing and and initially I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► like oh this is going to be this huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► this here's where we are well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► opened uh the kind of cold open is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► flashback which was brutal I mean oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► was like oh my gosh I hope the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► movie is gonna be this rough right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► that's right okay so I guess that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► that cold open got me in it was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► cold open of uh of inglourious basterds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► right where I really did feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► movie is gonna be really hardcore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► and good because both cold opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► fantastic right just like what am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► watching yeah and then the then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► cassette thing and I was like okay okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► okay but then even that scene but by by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► three-quarters the way through I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► like oh this is not bad this is good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► the Garden guardians of the galaxy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► such a thrill ride for me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► couldn't believe that there were people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► this smart and funny that we're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► movies it just didn't seem it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► seem possible given how I got the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► assignment like wait a minute yeah are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► you sure you're supposed to be in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► should you be in like French new-wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► there are hundreds of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► people in Hollywood making movies all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► the time and I and none of them come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► with anything close to this in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► script in terms of you know whoever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► continuity people were they were good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► so unsung because if they're doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► job you don't notice them it's only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► ones that are not doing it's only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► script doctors that are not thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► about whether or not their ship makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► sense that stand out so this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► like I fell in love with the raccoon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► didn't even understand Groot I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► end that whole right like why is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► tree even in this but it was he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► really sweet tree who occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► becomes incredibly violent yeah yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► and I identified with everybody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► movie and and so when guardians of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► galaxy 2 started coming out when that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► they started to roll it out I I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► I got spooked I was like no no no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► no no how are you gonna do this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► you know you're gonna screw this up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► bet Hollywood aren't you aren't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► Hollywood yeah and then as it got closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► and closer and everybody was so hyped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► I was like I've seen this before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► remember when you were waiting in line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► for the Phantom Menace you dumb people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► don't do this to yourselves what I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► my friend and more until he'd wondered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► if he'd ever see he's you know 10 maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► 10 years younger than me maybe more but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► he uh he had wondered if there'd ever be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► another Star Wars in his lifetime and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► saw it like three times in one weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► and each time he was like that was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► right like if you try to figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► yeah the thing you're like it must be me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► I mean this is George Lucas George Lucas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► is the force man like this is yeah I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► missing something I should keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► back to this nothing until I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► right good right those guys right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► guys right and everybody's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► yeah um I was I was like that when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► went to see Hitchhiker's Guide to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► galaxy because it had everything it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► ever it had Sam Rockwell who I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► the greatest he's the greatest living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► actor everything like saying we watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► Iron Man 2 a couple times in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► underrated movie and you know it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► they bring his character and so late in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► that movie but like everything he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► the moment he appears on screen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► movie just comes alive he Sarah is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► entertaining he's so great he's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► Hollywood actor I'm I'm pretty confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► Hollywood actor that I would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► want to meet that I've you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► would be like if somebody said we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► gonna go meet Sam Rockwell I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► like oh oh oh okay oh I'm cool you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► like I would be I'm not I feeling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► would be I would be weird right he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► one guy I would be weird and and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► sense is he's he's not he's not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► those in like dumb intense Hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► where he's out crashing his car or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► there's like swatting around being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► intense but he does feel like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► who who I just I feel like he's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► i I'm maybe one day fate the fates will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► bring us together in Sam Rockwell and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► will be able to carry on a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► because I would be I would look forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► to it cuz I just love I just love him I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► love his face I love his voice I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► everything every time he's in a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► whatever reason he's really in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► without having it up but he is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► presence somebody I mean in a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► different angle like Melissa McCarthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► we're like whatever material she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► given and it is certainly not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► great like I feel like she just brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► it alive and I just want to watch what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► she does next and I think he's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► and movie like moon I mean how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► people could pull off a movie that crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► it's it's such a mode that no spoilers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► but it's a very strange movie but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► totally agree but he okay so we're on Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► Hitchhiker's Guide and you got Tim from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► the office mm-hmm you can play who's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► best guy in the office I thought oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► absolutely and get severus snape as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► voice of Marvin right yep yep Saravanan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► Magellan Rickman neon Marvin all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► Alan Rickman is in the movie isn't he as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► a as a face character I don't know or am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► I thinking of I think he's more of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► looking up there is there is a superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► movie or some kind of movie where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► in a spacesuit he's in a galaxy quest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► galaxy quests that very amusing movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► that's it that's it 2005 another high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► concept movie that Galaxy Quest where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► it's like you guys came up with an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► that's good boy this is a haircut you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► got you got Zooey Deschanel in it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► gotta fry richard griffiths that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► Vernon Dursley isn't it because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► course I judge everything by who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► were in a Harry Potter movie it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► he got a Malkovich I've never seen it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► love the book my daughter and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► read the book oh you've never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► Hitchhiker's Guide the movie now I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► heard some of the radio play from back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► in the day but I just the movie I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► know is scared you know the feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► Jitender right it just has such a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► they just he just describes it so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► and you're like I you know I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► want to see what a Vogon looks like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► just keep describing all that stuff yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► and it's tried there have been attempts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► made to adapt it for a long time as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► know radio play and the everything right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► TV show the cereal box the and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► never 100% succeeded and here was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► movie with all these perfect just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► perfect cast I couldn't have done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► better job of putting this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► together yeah and no spoilers but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► like just a it's a turnip unch Bowl is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► it it pretty leaden yeah that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► what happens there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► where's the lightness like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► supposed to be hilarious and it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► everybody's just walking around mugging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► and there's no there's no joy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► Mudville and uh that was one where I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► go in with pretty high expectations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► halfway through the movie I said this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► not good this is no good this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► this is like every twenty no movie in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► the last ten years no good I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► friend who is a comic writer and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► his comics have you seen that trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► for atomic blonde with Charlize Theron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► no I like Shirley schuk is there on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► kicking butt in Berlin in the late 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► good goosey god it's really good but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► so anyway I've kind of cool awesome his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► his comic the coldest city is has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► made into a movie that comes out soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► but but he has done he's done all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► of different work including adaptations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► oh yeah and yes he has some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► thoughts on and I'm always interested to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► hear this kind of stuff from someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► actually does it versus somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► so like you know don't ask most comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► fans how you could make that into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► movie um though we have no context for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► that you have your I mean you may but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► you mainly have your very strong you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► know emotional feelings like what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► leave in what to leave out like a Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► against the wind still wanna dance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► win but but you know it's and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► interesting thoughts he has is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► you know he's not it this sounds obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► but it's so important he's not against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► changing the story like you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► adapt to this medium there's all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► of stuff that you have to there may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► characters you have to add there may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► characters you have to combine there may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► be things and like it's it's such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► artful thing and look no further than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► our friend Coppola The Godfather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► the first Godfather book which I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► most of is fine but it's fine it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► the movie that you see on screen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► the result of a fantastic collaboration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► adaptation obviously the town I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► it's you know where they say success has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► a thousand fathers and failures an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► orphan it's but you know it takes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► many people to take something from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► medium into another and if it isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► a naked cash grab we're trying to cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► in on you know like oh the popularity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► you know is there something very artful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► and special and then on top of it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► up-and-coming indie director who wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► to make something like like Primmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► like let's say you've got or primer as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► you say like if you've if you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► this got people in comics suffer from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► this you go in with all this weight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► expectations I mean can you imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► being Joss Whedon and going into like be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► troubled Avengers project and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► taking over think that's it's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► difficult there's just there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► requirements and so many boxes to tick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► and then on top of all that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► make it even if you had like an int like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► I say with an indie film there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► chance you could get it through a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► version of the Machine intact but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► imagine that extra level of difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► of having to make it an adaptation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► survives all that stuff where you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► like very carefully you've put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► this thing that's like almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► house of cards a character and plot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► we have this much budget like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► like in The Hulk movie we can only show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► the Hulk this much because we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► that much money etc etc so I just I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► a lot of admiration for people who pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► it off because like you said if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► worked well you don't notice why it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► great and if it doesn't work well all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► you can do is obsess about what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► should have done differently yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► I feel like they're - you touched on two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► things right and one of them is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► classic thing that we had that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► in the music recording business which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► that the more people from the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► office that come down to your recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► session the more they are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► destroy what you're doing it's all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► can do is destroy what you're doing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► they have is the counter of subtraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► yeah right and so on mixing boards in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► studios all over the world there are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► I swear this is both done for comedic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► effect and also absolutely true there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► are little sections of mixing boards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► disconnected and when someone an A&R guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► or somebody from the label comes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► wants to contribute a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► producer will say hey here is this sect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► you know they're like why don't we bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► the bass up why don't we take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► tambourine down why don't we change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► and he'll actually put his hands on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► knobs and say here you know like as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► mix is going by can you make those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► adjustments here on these four knobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► let me demonstrate for you next yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► knobs are not connected to anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► the the an our guy will sit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► make these minor minor adjustments on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► blank knobs and be like they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► that and everybody's like whoa yes thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► really many sweetens up the sound yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► you did it man you found the sweet spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► and I think to to be in Hollywood and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► keep your thing alive you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► very good at that type of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► you're where you're a little bit of bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► misdirection of the of the A&R guy where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► there's all these people from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► theater the studio they're like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► it would be great is it the if there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► like a little kid like a precocious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► little kid that wears glasses that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► says funny stuff and you go that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► great idea here you know like what if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► made that kid a full-grown adult who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► didn't ever say anything funny what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► about that that was your idea my guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► like amazing so I think you've got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► able to do that and not do what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► which is like what get the fuck out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► here you know because that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► that you lose that's what you lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► you gotta give them some kind of a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► we got a computer here something called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► the heat sink right like you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► give them an input sink you need to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► them some kind of a way to have input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► without unintentionally you know doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► something destructive but you also need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► to not it seems to me you also need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► not make it like Wow keep coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► because we could sure use lots of tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► particularly when you've got people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► Hollywood or in business who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► think they're they're hot and who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► smart enough that they have gotten where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► they've gotten so they're not just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► can't just misdirect them like throw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► tennis ball down the hall and like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► go get it boy you know you've got a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► that it's these guys that we're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► talking about right the the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► middle-aged dude who never thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► think's she's amazing and that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► that's who you have to find a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► like give him something real that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► know because they're on the lookout for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► you to give them a button that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► work right they they're they that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► they that that's part of their identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► is like they're nobody's fool so how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► contend with them in a Hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► situation I don't know but that's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► interesting to me than the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► that you were touching on which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► somehow to maintain tonight then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► the word outsider is is so overused that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► we that we forget that it originally had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► a meaning but like how to maintain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► perspective of a child through a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► undertaking like this how to maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► that the simplicity of like does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► work or not does this make me laugh or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► not does this do I understand this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► not and not get not get broken up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► all these sort of like here's a vignette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► we're working on this vignette and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► it fits into the rest of the movie we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► don't care how it you know like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► got a team working on this vignette and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► they're honing it and everything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► screwing up how it fits into the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► but no one's no one is coordinating it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► no one is there's no executive here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► because this has all been balkanized by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► someone up up higher who's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► we need we need to bring in an action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► guy for this scene we need to bring in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► the script writers from this action film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► to put more action into this scene in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► this comedy or you know and I and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► hit on this in other topics to talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► to you which is that at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► expertise can be the enemy we we are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► you know we fetishize expertise in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► culture and so all of our teachers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► education trajectory in their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► education yeah and all of our designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► have pursued designing extensively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► exclusively and we have eliminated so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► much the the sense that what the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► needs is people educated broadly and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► a film especially I feel like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► should be someone working in the working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► on a film that doesn't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► about film right that that hasn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► the the book you know that's just a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► reader and a knowledgeable person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► you run things by and go what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► how does this I mean it's basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► running it by your dad or you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► like in my case your mom where like mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► does this scan and mom's like who's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► who's the one in the Hat and like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► right right right because when I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► it I put in all this explication about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► the one in the Hat and then I took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► out in a subsequent edit but the one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► the Hat is still in the movie it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► make any sense because he because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► the backstory got edited out thanks mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► mm-hmm like a little bit of a sanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► check yeah but how do you go into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► and say and and make a case for someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► who isn't an expert make a case for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► the input of someone where you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► you're saying about them is I trust this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► person here just you a lot of directors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► and showrunners in TV have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► kind of brain trust that they can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► stuff by you know that you wouldn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► necessarily somebody who's just like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► absolute beginner but but I take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► point it the other get one other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► challenge of expertise that can like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► like that absolute beginners drop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► their that like that the the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► with expertise is though there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► levels to expertise starting at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► of there's all in one end you start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► not knowing what you don't even know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► need to know or not know like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► just there's that you know the total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► zero I don't even know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► this thing and of course you move up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► up and up but even if you become very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► very good at something I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► still important to understand where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► expertise is appropriate and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► where your expertise applies where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► expertise can be used useful or or where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► conversely where your confidence in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► own expertise might be a cataract that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► causes you to start trying to solve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► problem that you've been comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► solving before to where you're almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► like somebody who let's say you're a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► critic who's watched thousands of hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► of reality cooking shows and like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► know them backwards and forwards and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► what you do you like walk into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► kitchen and like here's the name of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► pasta that you know that you say they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► should throw in the soup or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► what I mean like oh one time they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► on top shell Top Chef with this the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► of expertise is also knowing when to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► like no I don't really know about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► like you know what I mean that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► don't have to have you know I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► to put my fingers on the faders in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► to have an influence on how this works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► that there should be a way that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► adjust what I know and what I've learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► to deploy that in a way that's useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► and positive rather than something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► that's just there for you to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► put a mark on it and and and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► something that I this is I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► at the crux right where if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► tremendous accomplishment and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► and you and and you are already a hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► in your craft and then you can be then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► you can be a character that uh that sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► in the back of the room with sunglasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► on maybe asleep maybe not while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► whole thing goes and you are thinking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► yourself this is all going well it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► not need my intervention and you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► away with it because people are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► well it's the master right that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► so that hands-off Ness is I mean Quincy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► Jones presumably does not sit in a chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► and and or doesn't jump up out of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► chair and go move the 57 on the snare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► yeah he's the producer is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► engineer right but but you know you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► surprised right as yet the number of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► so there are those people that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► understand right that that Carol King is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► not going to say she's not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► down in the deep in the weeds if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► something's going well right she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► going to screw up something but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► there's the vast majority of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► the middle of their profession who in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► lot of ways you know people are gunning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► for their job there's a lot of there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► competition there in the mix and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► at a stage in their career where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► are like are you the are you a genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► are you the next genius and there's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► to be so much pressure on them to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► like they're working basically right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► it's got to be so hard for somebody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► the middle of a creative career business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► business yeah right just to be like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► this is going well and what what I meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► you know what a great director does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► not mess with success or you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► and so that accounts I think for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► giant jumble of garbage that's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► you know the the guy er the the guy er [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► of plastic that's in the it's rotating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► around the Pacific that we call our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► mainstream culture but it's those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► creatives I just use the word okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► get a freebie get one it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► people that from a very young age have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► confidence to be sparing from a from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► know throughout their career like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► when I think about Prince being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► teenager walking around Minneapolis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► hears teenage Prince walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► Minneapolis and he's going to like open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► mics and he's in his high school band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► and he's you know like he was a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► schooler right Prince didn't fall from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► the sky he was just another weird kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► with temples he's a weird kid with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► pimples it was like practicing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► guitar in on his bed nobody sees Prince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► coming but from the very beginning he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► had the confidence to be Prince because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► there there aren't like seven Prince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► albums where he's trying to figure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► out right you know he's like he hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► ground pretty pretty running huh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► doing all these things like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► listening to I was listening to a track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► a Prince track yesterday where he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► he has pre-delay right when I forget I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► blanking on the tune but like the vocal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► melody oh it's a little red Corvette um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► where there's where does oh it's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► bridge yeah there's a pre-echo yeah on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► the verge of being obscene that part on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► the verge on the verge of being obscene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► yeah and it's like what I mean that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► natural it's so beautiful and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► wonderful and I'm I'm sure Prince didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► invent it but and and I let me see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► what is the what is the explanation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► I remember I remember hearing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► described how it was discovered which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► was that um when the tape real when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► when the the tune is being wound back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► the tape real there's a little bleed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► there's little bleed through the tape or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► on the tape where you get this pre-delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► because the you know the part actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► ghosts into the track I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► true on old on old recording media well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► but but this is not that this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► bleed this was an intentional thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► where he was like I'm gonna I'm gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► this and and he was he was young enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► then I guess and there weren't as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► eyes on him that he could get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► it there wasn't somebody like wait wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► wait Prince that's a little crazy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► those people the people that that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► second-guess themselves or if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► they just they there's a voice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► confidence in them maybe ken well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► know new young to an extent because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► like whatever he's doing in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► he's pod committed on whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► album is my god have you seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► footage of him on German television or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► whatever it is Dutch television have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► sent you those links just him playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► solo in playing solo I've seen ones from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► around the time between um that comes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► time what's the one what's my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► album after the gold rush but before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► harvest reads like playing songs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► harvest I've seen a bunch of footage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► from that era that's like pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► stunning that were you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► yeah yeah he's 22 years old he's sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► on a chair and he's like the techne one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► he looks like looks like he's from The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► Young Ones he's just long hair and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► roll and he's like this is a new one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► wrote it's called old man it's about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► guy that lives in my farm and he plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► it on the acoustic guitar and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► complete right it's it is a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► work it's not like he's it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► he's working on it and that records not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► out and just him in a guitar it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► there you know you don't there isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► banjo part there isn't a backing vocal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► but it doesn't matter because and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► know and I'm I'm not just in awe I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► just watching this and going like whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► because I know the song backwards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► forwards and I and I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► ability to distinguish my own love of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► the thing from the actual thing like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► I am capable of looking at that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► saying that is actually phenomenal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► his parts are simple this is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► wonderful thing about about truly great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► stuff it's just simple it'd be easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► but there it is it's a kit some it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► masterpiece and he's just this young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► Canadian that's the least likely part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/2805">TS</a>]
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00:54:42 ◼ ► so I'm no longer um I'm no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► worried about meeting Zach well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► I feel like I happenin I can say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► good friends with Andrew also Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► this may surprise you to know but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► understanding it's just remembering now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► is that Zach wilds manager listens maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► listens to this program get out of town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► I'm not a hundred percent sure but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► think it's true or at least at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► was huh anyway Ben Shepherd has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► scared the shit out of me and he's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► of those guys that would just stare at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► you from across the room you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► that's not good like like hi and he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► keeps just like staring but anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► there's this bass line in the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► that for years I wanted to tease out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► wanted to figure out what what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► on and so the other day I was like I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► you there's something on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► about this and I'm surprised often when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► there is not something on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► it feels you do this song this has got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► happened to you huh in my neighborhood I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► I feel like I'm about to talk about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► I'm about to talk about a dream hmm but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► it's not a dream in my neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► there is someone and I'm gonna say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► pretty confident that it's a guy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► someone who late late at night walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► around setting off sticks of dynamite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► how I talked about this before I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► I mean they're not cherry bombs they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► there's like some significant boomy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► bottom and so I'll because I'm up late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► at night I'm lying in bed and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► nights I'll hear it all the way across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► the neighborhood like on the far far far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► side of neighborhood three o'clock in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► the morning and it's loud but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► tell it's also very distant and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► other times I will hear it nearby so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► that the windows rattle my god middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► the night and some nights I hear two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► maybe once even heard three of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► explosions in a single night and heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► them at a distance but moving like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► was one and then 45 minutes later there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► was another one over there and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► know an hour later there was another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► way over there we awake the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► be waking you up no I'm up I'm up and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► this is even weirder and this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► that I think is probably a guy is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► play but one time I was sitting in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► bedroom in my house and a stick of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► dynamite went out off in the street in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► front of my house and I saw the flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► through the windows it rattled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► entire house it rattled my teak it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► rattled it was like a stick well a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► of dynamite in front of your house yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► yeah you know just like and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► expecting it all right there's no like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► five four it's just like and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► typically you give a fella fire in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► hole before you do something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► yeah and it's the middle of the goddamn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► night you know 3:00 a.m. and it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► that I'm just sitting here sorting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► cufflinks into boxes that I was awake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► and saw the flash and so of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► sprinted downstairs in my underpants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► sprinted out the front door the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► Street is full of black powder smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► there's like shit floating in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► right paper and ship floating in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► and I run out into the middle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► there's you know this big black spot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► the on the pavement and I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► middle of the street and I'm in my like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► I didn't even have the forethought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► take a fencing saber with me I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► like I am ready to fight whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► mountain lion whatever human bear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► mountain lion in human shape just thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► that this is a good plan and I'm out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► the military and there's no one and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► looking and I'm looking and then nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► else is running on their underwear no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► hmm but there's definitely smoke Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► the street is full smoke coming and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► and the smoke cloud is 30 feet high I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► mean it's like a well it's like a bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► there is a solitary figure dressed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► black and just before and he's at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► corner two blocks down and just before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► he turns and stops and looks back at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► and I'm standing in my underwear in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► middle of his smoke cloud and it so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► this bomb had to have been on a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► fuse because he's not running he's fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► two blocks away and lit this either with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► a with a fuse a lit fuse or on some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► of timer or I don't think a remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► detonator of some kind but like to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► thing to set off something like this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► front of in just a neighborhood Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► is one thing but to light it and walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► away two blocks away you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► who's gonna come along right you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► be a block and a half away and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► sudden a family of five drives up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► super bill you know like a yeah a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► Griswold machine so and I stand in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► street and he stands in the street and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► we look at each other across this long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► distance I can't see his face he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► a shadow and I'm like I'm in my bare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► feet but I just wanted to sprint after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► this guy but I just knew that it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► it wasn't doable and so he turned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► corner and he and there was something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► his body language something in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► energy that was just like very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► fuck you like just super it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► they felt like getting a glimpse of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► serial killer to me because I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► listening to these bombs go off for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► decade and then one other time a a bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► went off in my neighborhood like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► but close enough that I knew where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► happened and I jumped out put on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► shoes and ran the two blocks to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► location again a huge cloud of smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► stuff still floating in the air and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► was hoping that I was coming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► direction that he was going but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► were but I saw no one and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► situation there was somebody else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► stood there and looked at each other in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► the street like what the fuck but I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► on the internet and and say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► like who's setting off fucking bombs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► and you know there's so many NIMBYs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► neighborhood activists and people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► are on the internet like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► barking dog in my neighborhood yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► right I can find nothing mm-hmm about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► the Mad Bomber of South Seattle noticing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► and that's so strange when that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► I feel like I'm I'm a crazy person like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► is no one else here these massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► explosions I mean I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► he's ever doesn't seem like he's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► hurt anybody I've never heard a police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► car it never feels like I should call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► the police because it's like well fait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► accompli thing went off it's guy in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► black hoodies who knows nobody just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► pranking everybody just pranking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► where does he get these amazing bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► another thing I wanted but so I went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► yeah and I googled soloed baseline of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► burden in my hand I wanted to hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► bass part because I felt like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► really the secret to the song and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► course it's there it pops up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► listen to it and it is really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► understand what is happening because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► soul load it sounds very bad it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► sound well played and it doesn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► well thought out it sounds kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► Ben Shephard through a bass down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► flight of stairs I'm listening it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► a kind of meandering grungy feeling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► song or the baseline to baseline by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► itself yeah at a great tone well even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► you know yeah sort of but there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► bunch of comments after the basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► sloppiness is part of his brilliance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► yeah exactly and then a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► people are like this is an amateur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► for months well so then somebody in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► comment thread posted a thing where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► said you need to listen to this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► context and they posted a thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► the band is in the right channel and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► base is soloed in the left chance okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► and listening to not even you I mean at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► least I think I get what he's doing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► get the bass part now I understand where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► it lives but I'm just surprised he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► didn't take another take like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► surprised that he didn't just try and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► and get it a little better mm-hmm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► this was a record that they recorded a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► bad animals studio it must have been you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► know $1500 a day in the studio this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► major major professional rock album so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► it had to be intentional everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► about it was intentional and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► listen to the track it not only works it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► works amazingly but there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► about the part that would suggest it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► you were sitting in the studio and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► so load that bass part he tends I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► he sounds I don't get in trouble with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► this guy because he sounds like a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► guy it says a little bit like a guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► player playing a bass part yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► they're like weird hammer offs that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► sort of you know they're like like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► root in a fifth the root routing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► octaves and a lot of sliding around but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► hammering and like just sort of fret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► noise and clanks and clunks there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► lot of clanks and clunks it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► family it's not a clean take um and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► really been chewing on that bass part uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► for the last few weeks sort of like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► you walk out of Gallic guardians of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► galaxy are you thinking about the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► afterwards I'm still thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► guardians of the galaxy where do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► stand it as of now the way she did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► another take do I wish he had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► another take uh no because I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► track is perfect what I listen to burden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► in my hand I do not think oh I wish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► song was better like it I do feel within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► at least the Soundgarden style it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► a high watermark for Soundgarden and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► I cannot as a recordist and a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► that's making rock albums I cannot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► cannot picture myself in the studio as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► listening to that bass take and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► great write print it and so it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► example another piece of evidence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► I'm missing something or you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► that that there is a that that's a form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► of perfection but if it works for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► song it works right well but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► exactly right and that's what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► saying about George Harrison BAM all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► right yeah but if you solo things which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► is what you do in a studio like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► record the bass part live with the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► and then you go and you solo things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► hear how they sound to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► they all line up and they work contrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► to what you might imagine listening to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► song or an album like for the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► stages of that song you're doing nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► but listening to solo solo or grouped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► instruments like for a long you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► get to hear what the song really sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► like really for a long time you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► probably heard that bass line you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► numerous numerous times by its size yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► or oh and usually you're listening to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► with the drums right and you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► does this does this work and even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► was working with the drums when you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► load it and you heard all the noise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► the chaos I cannot imagine that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► people who were getting paid big big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► cleverness I guess to say that's done I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► see you know because they because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► would assume that they would be trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► to justify their enormous salaries by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► saying let's do this 50 times until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► get it right and that's the somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► the chain either Ben Shepard was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► that's perfect I'm not doing it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► which requires either tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► confidence from him or tremendous fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► you a tude or the producer heard it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► was like I wouldn't change a thing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► is super smart or like crazy smart or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► Chris Cornell is like nope that's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► sound I mean somewhere somebody made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► stand for that bass line I guess is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► I'm saying yeah I see SM and I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► how you could make a stand about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► particular part so all these little all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► these little bread crumbs crumbs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► that that the world leaves behind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► if you're if you you find them you walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► through the forest and you find this I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► gonna pick it up and you look at and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► go what's the story here how how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► this acquit with my theory of how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► things get made one of the reasons I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► up late I've been watching a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► videos from this guy Adam Neely who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► a really I think a really good YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► multi-instrumentalist but mainly a bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► player and he's a teacher he teaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► music and he did this thing I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► is the right one a familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► notion of Hockett no hoc ke T and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► basically he lays out like with music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► and with showing you the notation it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► little bit it's kind of like it's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► basically you break up the rhythm across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► multiple voices or instruments where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► there's like sort of a continuation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► a coverage and you give this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► strange like magical quality to having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► passing off the melody to different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► instruments I mean here a lot you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► hear a lot in like I'm guessing like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► want to say like Bebop weird like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► somebody will continue the line or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► something like that but this is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► like by design you can be write this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► such a way that this voice starts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► this hands off to this voice maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► there's a harmony but it completes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► it's but it's one of those things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► given that much thought to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► like this even existing but like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► it's explained to you it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► mind blower and you go back and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► listen to stuff and you're like wow you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► would have to be so trusting of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► people in this Corral to attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► something like this and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► I'm describing it very well but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► it's maybe a little bit I want to say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► little bit like a cannon but something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► where there might be some repetition but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► you're like handing off in music haka is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► the rhythmic linear technique using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► alternation of notes pitches or chords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► as a single melody shared between two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► occasionally more voices such that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► alternately one voice sounds while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► other rests right and one example he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► gives is you know that Daft Punk song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► faster make it that oh the faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► yeah like were you like passing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► electronically I guess but like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► know I I'm I'm still so interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► learning about this kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► because then you go back and you listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► to stuff again you're just like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► like triply amazing to me now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► somebody pulled this off yeah yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► change the change the subject little on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► you there no not at all not at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► think that that is that reality as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► mental realities right both well and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► and you say you say collaboration a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► and I think it is it's important to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► the word collaboration over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► it's important for me to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► collaboration I am now I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► give too much away I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► spoiler alert oh no I do want a spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► okay thank you I don't want to alert hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► but I am embarking upon a new thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► multiple different venues where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► intentionally collaborating that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► the never you in the past hasn't it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► it has and I forget it over and over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► because I think that what I want is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► be left alone and I think that that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► you know like hard to collaborate and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► is but like that track that I sent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► it wasn't exactly a pure collaboration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► in the sense that I wrote a thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► wasn't a bunch of back-and-forth I sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► it to her she added her parts it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► completed thing and and so but it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► feel like I had to surrender this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► I had written it I was proud of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► thought it was good I had a very strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► I handed it to her she went where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► wanted it to go and it became an Amy man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► song because you don't give a song to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► me man and then have it be anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► other right if she's gonna use it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► becomes hers and she did she did an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► amazing work right she she wrote the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► bridge which i think is a great bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► like she she made it hers and I had to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► had to say goodbye thing that I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► right have a new life somewhere else go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► to college in a different town but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► was it and it wasn't easy because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► like but I wanted to be the one that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► everything right that's that's what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► yeah but it turned out great and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► lives in the world right now and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► it was a reminder don't be precious make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► your thing hand it off you know you eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► everything is a collaboration in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► when you hand it off to the world they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► add their two cents right like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► else loving a thing and loving it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► their own way like adds to what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► thing is that's going to put it so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► collaborating now with two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► more broadly where I'm like let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► this together let's do this project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► together and boy Merlin is it hard just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► to say that over and over because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► person comes back and they're like great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► while I was thinking that I would put I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► would play you know I would call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► Connecticut and put a whipped cream on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► it and I'm like I don't that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► I don't even know what you just said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► they're like no no it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► great Connecticut that's what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► calling it now and but it has so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► I've picked a couple of collaborators or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► they picked me who are exciting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► we're doing something that I wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► so boy I'm every day I'm I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► wake up and say you can't do this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► yourself nothing good is going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► of do you doing it by yourself you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► to you have to live in the world an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► interesting analog that jump straight to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► mind as I read more stuff in like New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► subscribed to those and I read them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► lot is I think about um there's a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► I like a lot of the New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► Maggie Haberman I like her Twitter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► like when she's interviewed on shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► I enjoy when she is on the byline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► frequently she's not alone on the byline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► these days you know with this fast news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► cycle and all this crazy stuff coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► out and the leaks and everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► know she might be one of often to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► occasionally three and sometimes many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► more people and for some reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► leaps to mind for me or maybe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► little bit like the wu-tang clan I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► know but like with her like I'm just I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► because I know that because I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► stuff that she does I could not tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► which sentence she wrote in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► particular article but but I know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► really I like her work even when I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► identify which part it was that she made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► and I'm not saying that works across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► board for collaborations like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► tell like John wrote that bridge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► was not a paul bridge that was a john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► bridge like you can tell those kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► things but I guess I'm just saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► maybe that's one model to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► because there's a little hidden part in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► that that I think is interesting Maggie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► Haberman is not gonna spend four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► to write one article she's got to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► stuff out every day sometimes more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► once a day so that it seems to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► the idea of having to produce and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► realize of you know a rock album is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► the same thing as a news article but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► am saying that like the pressure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► release often combined with the need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► have ad hoc short term relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► with other people who do what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► must make you pretty cool about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► would have to get okay with how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► collaborate with people you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► spend five years at that job saying no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► want the only byline on this and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► well no that's that's not how this works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► in this in this economy and in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► environment like this is how we produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► news stories but that again that though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► that pressure of like some somebody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► don't know and actually I would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► be a fly on the wall for figuring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► sign to water who chooses what but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► take my meaning a little bit but yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► seems like you would have to get less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► Precious about whether it's good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► and ready enough you have to get less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► Precious about like putting your own ego [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► aside and I guess ultimately maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► know it could be an editor who's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► to make those kinds of decisions but did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► you see any an analogy there well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► and I and honestly when you put it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► way the way that they have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► thinking is that it's about the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► it's about it'll eventually put out we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► know there's going to be a story that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► mostly about this topic or topics needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► to come out in the next few hours so how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► do we collapse on them yeah right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► and it isn't it they're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► thinking about the they're not thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► about their solo right they're just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► the my job is to put this out or not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► be remembered and then consequently they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► different I know I know oh the bastards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► but I mean else I just did further on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► music though um I'm trying to think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► I don't know that much about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► personalities of the various jazz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► musicians but I mean you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► somebody like Max Roach for example is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► one that comes to mind we're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► know I can't always identify every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► drummer on every pop album but I'm often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► often as not I am unsurprised to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► out that was telling max rich playing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► that because you guys have a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► style but in jazz like when you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► small combo it's it seems like like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► to even get noticed to get noticed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► get invited up like all the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► things that you would hope for when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► you're starting out a huge piece of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► is how well you play with others and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► like if you go up there your first day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► this your first day you show up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► start rapping about that bap bap bap bap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► bap bap when nobody else is even playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► yet like you're gonna you're gonna kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► like Luigi ality and listening and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► kind of as I say collaboration the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► maybe the ironic turns out part is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► would make you very desirable to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► people like you've got chops when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► get your eight bars but you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► stepping on everybody's stuff and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► you know I mean you know how to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4798">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► classy onstage with other people be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► supportive and then like respond to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► they're doing and where you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► wave your arms around and say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► everybody stop this wasn't what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► intended I have a I have a friend here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► in Seattle who is making a TV show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► she has a she's the writer of the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► writer and also the showrunner and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► has a writing staff that she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► compiled from the ranks right people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► that wrote for Gracey and Frank or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► people that wrote for my own private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► Idaho or people that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► writers all the great chefs that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► that have their own that have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► that have credits yeah and she said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► was talking to her the other day we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► to a baseball game and she said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► normally what happens a person in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► position they have this team of writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► that have been put together to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► their show and everybody rights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► rights and rights and we all write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► script and then I would put my name on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► it and they would be being paid to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► this work like Lena Dunham and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► Joss Whedon who's her collaborator I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► don't know yeah like another writer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► yeah well producer of girls oh yes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► film film person okay move movie person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► maybe he made super bad or 40 year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► Apatow if you look at the entire season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► all the seasons of those shows those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► I think man maybe with one other person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► are credited with having written all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► show I've heard that they wrote almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► all of them yeah and but there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► writing staff right there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► that are brighter that are working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► the show there and those writers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► writing but they're not they're not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► don't take the ultimate credit for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► script and and my friend who is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► this TV show said you know what I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► ended up just giving each one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► writers a script you know they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► to we're all going to write just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► normal TV show but I'm going to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► each one of them the credit for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► because I don't need that like I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► successful person I don't need to also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► own all the scripts even though their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► first time as the showrunner will have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► heavy influence on how it gets edited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► and implemented Oh for shizzle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► she'll have the final edit the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► writing uh shield she will do that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► she just won't take the credit and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► said you know if you get a script it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► an extra thinking $50,000 to this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► that's a little yeah why be greedy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► she said one of the writers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► everybody on this on this show has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► multiple credits of TV shows except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► this one young playwright that she hired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► who was you know some fresh out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► college gal from you know some college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► uh-huh who's a talented young playwright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► and and she's on the writing staff and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► and and by this description I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► that she's pretty young right early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► early to mid-20s not having worked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► television before not having been a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► of a writing staff but just somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► that was writing plays and and my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► described her as like she knows exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► what to do in the writing room which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► to not say anything until there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► time for her to say something and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► when she says something is brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► uh-huh she waits for a shot and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► like boom well done and so my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► said I'm giving her a script to which no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► one can believe right that's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► this absence such a noob in this medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► yeah it's just not done you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► this person's twenty five you don't give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► them a script but like she earned it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5036">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► knowing her job right by not being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► one that was standing on the table like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► no no no no right right but by being by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► being consistently good and also knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► how to be patient so I mean that show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► in development and I have my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► crossed about it but but that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► a world where it also requires that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► my friend who is not you know above like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► wanting to be known and make money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► and and be a famous person is able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► say like the collaborative nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► this is important enough to it getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► done that there should also be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► acknowledgement than some reward that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► also like spooned out to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► because these people are working their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► butts off and even though they're lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► yeah it doesn't mean that that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► should that they should have to pay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► play I can show is it just generally is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► uh you know what I don't know why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► being so coy about it um my friend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► Maria Semple who wrote where'd you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► Bernadette and two things are currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► in development one of them is a film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► being made of where'd you go Bernadette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► which is being made and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► Maria has sort of had she had her input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► into it and now has sort of stepped away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► from the making of the film she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► like a daily presence on the film but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► there's also a television show that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► being developed so it's like a time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► is I don't know listening to Maria talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► about it it is like until the show is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► the air you cannot be confident oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► sure alright shows you know though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► they'll spend a hundred million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► making a show and then at the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► minute just decide to pull it and put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► ABC's Wide World of Sports Wide World of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► quite a cash got for the movie Kate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► Blanchet Kristen Wiig Judy Greer Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► Crudup you got dr. manhattan's yes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► big penis man big penis big blue penis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► um yes it's a great cast and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► the TV show also is pretty extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► but I'm guessing that there's nothing oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► well there there's the article right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► there so it's something I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► it's in The Hollywood Reporter Julia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► Roberts is playing Maria Semple oh my in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► the in the television show that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► developing and the show and it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► her second book or their her follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► to where'd you go Bernadette called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► today will be different which is ah at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► your local bookstore on sale now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► Julia Roberts it's very unusual I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► even for me to have a friend who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► being played by Julia Roberts on a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► show get up to that but all for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► don't get that more than maybe four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► five times in your life right right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► sitting at a baseball game talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► a TV show that is where Julia Roberts is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► is the you know the star but Maria is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► show running the show in addition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► having uh written the book and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► character of the TV show and god am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► getting some lessons about collaboration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► um it's just really heavy to watch how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► much work has to go into making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► thing and how much self-effacement has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► to happen how much like stepping back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► and saying in order to make this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► thing work I have to let I have to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► I can only imagine I can oh I can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► imagine there must be so much stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► where you have to make a pretty fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► decision about well am I going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► big deal out of this would be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► another one would be if this does happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► how likely is this thing to happen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► and if it does happen like what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► likely consequences and you start doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► a little bit of like thinking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► chest style a little bit ahead but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► just I can't even imagine and you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► the whole time you got to stay cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► keep your powder dry yeah I got so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► in with the writer Elizabeth Gilbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► you've met having I I have met Elizabeth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► Gilbert she and I have spent some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► together okay so now you know two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► portrayed by Julia Roberts in a film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► kind of film oh holy shit yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► two we should probably look into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► see if there's any others you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► could be done to you do you think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► is a situation where in the rest of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► life there will be two more people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► I know Tyler for Trinity Roberts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► I think there will be at least one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► clearly Wow do you think maybe I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► ever be portrayed by Julia Roberts in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► fictionalized version of me I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► would probably be Tilda Swinton playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► Julia Roberts playing you I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► might have some laughs it might be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► might be a South Korean movie I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► it's going to have a lot of layers to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► and yeah and there's no question I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► that still counts you think it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► like a Being John Malkovich situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► where people are just like Malkovich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► Malkovich I never saw that whole movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► my own urn on DVD and I still never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► hast we new here show us a full frontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► well she's been in a lot of movies look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► at that she has she's uh she's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► and you know Maria speaks highly ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► you know um you know who knows so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► we'll all go to a ballgame or or a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► um it's a whole maybe looking behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► their van and pick you up but it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► a whole different set of skills it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► it's one reason I am so reluctant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► utterly poopoo the experience one gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► from team sports and being in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► military um because uh you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► you've made it through film school for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► example you've almost certainly had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► collaborate with people but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► you're collaborating probably mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► with other students but the the skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► that made you good at what you are as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► musician a rock musician as a stand-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► comic as there's all kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► where you can hone elements of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► do even publicly kind of mostly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► yourself not always true comedians have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► people write jokes for them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► obviously if you're if you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► like it's um it's like so many jobs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► means the full weight of what's involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► in what you're doing may not be fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► upon you until you're like getting ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► to go into production where like you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► realize and I get I mean you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► because you've had successes in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► but it is it's kind of weird you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► about something like Herb Alpert like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► herb Albert I think started primarily as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► a trumpet player and then he became like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► a trumpet player with a band and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► became a trumpet player with a band he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► was it sometimes sing not very well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► then fast forward just a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► he's the guy who started anm records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► right and there's that kind of classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► celebrity refusenik idea of the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► who's always taking every job to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► next higher up level job but like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► people just want to be implementers some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► cinematographer because there's a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► that but there's a lot of practitioners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► who like the piece of the pieces of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► puzzle that they're responsible for they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► showrunner necessarily you know I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► I wonder I don't know there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► people who just seem like wunderkind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► where you're like we know they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► one thing and now they're getting all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► these offers and they keep you'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► somebody like let's go say Damon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► Lindelof but especially Noah Hawley the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► guy who did Fargo and Legion and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► he's doing so many things and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► seems like he he he just never misses a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► pitch but there's a there's people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► skills at the heart of all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► kinds of jobs and like it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► there's always this potential disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► if you try to move into an increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► primarily a gifted and mercurial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► practitioner I'm starting to get it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► little bit that you know through years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► and years right we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► intelligence as being not a single thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► right the first time somebody said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► that person has emotional intelligence I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► remember thinking that it was a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► a revolutionary thought technology like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► oh right yeah that had no one had ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► spoken that idea before and now we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► the concept of emotional intelligence to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► yeah you know we had street smarts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► street smarts you know didn't it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► clearly wasn't being discussed as a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► of intelligence as much as it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► kind of smarts just the use of the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► smarts took some of the power away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► now we think of intelligence as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► this you know this multifaceted thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► and you can have the mathematical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► intelligence or you can have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► different kinds of intelligence well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► like if you you see if you observe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► people in your life whose skill with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► something seems not only impossibly easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► they seem impossibly confident but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► it's if it feels like magic to you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► somebody is capable of that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► probably some chance that they have an X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► fill-in-the-blank intelligence that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► lack and and and I think my maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► is from my era or just maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► natural but I always think of them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► being smarter somehow how is joss whedon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► capable of all this got to be smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► somehow and so I don't know if we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► about this last week but I just met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► Tommy Gevinson yeah a Mishnah and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► was what stood out about her was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► she was very smart like clearly a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► very smart person but over time I've met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► smartness that stands out right I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► John Hodgman is smart Maria Semple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► smart they're very smart yeah but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► not like they are unnaturally smart or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► smart to a point where you can it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► their accomplishment can be attributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► to their smartness and Tommy is young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► not not she can't possibly have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► experiences that an older person has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► but and she's very smart clearly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► there's something else and it's this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► is this quality of being it's the self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► possession or whatever whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► neil young young neil young feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► is where they just are following their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► own star but without without a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► Jim Morrison trappings you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► just when something comes onto their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► desk they have a they have a skill of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► being able to say this isn't what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► doing this just isn't what I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► this thing mm-hmm and I didn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► everything came on my desk and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► like maybe I'll be a Shakespearean actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► and there wasn't a thing in my head that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► was like no that's not what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► you're not doing a Shakespeare thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► life and so I spent however many hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► however many daydream hours imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► shakes imagining that I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► Shakespeare and you know maybe burned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► lot of time yeah could I lose you no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► I'm done I'm thinking about it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► know I mean as one of those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► is it's a little bit of an obsession for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► me I don't know I've said so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► this so many places but it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► continues to dog me is the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► gulf between how it feels like in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► terms when you put your hands around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► the incredible gulf between the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► doing something and what happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► you actually have to do that thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► you know when we say have to that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► committed to that there's like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► budget there's a timeline all that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► of stuff but just it's uh it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► sometimes be so shocking yeah I hate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► repeat myself but no I I do still I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► still really obsess and like you I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► I lie I want to be left alone but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► it's it's beneficial to be pushed into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► situations with other people well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► encouraging my daughter to get over her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► shyness and order her own food or for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► to be saying okay I'm going to reach out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► to this person try to do a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► episode with them I mean it's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► natural impulse at all and given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► varying intelligences of other people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► look at somebody or you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► and you're like wow I can feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► can tell a little bit why you're so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► at your job like you really you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► get this in a way you get this on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► molecular level because you've done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► a lot and because you understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► people are part of the process and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► admire that and I'm stunned by that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► I've said it before and I'll say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► again I mean the fact that you reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5876">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► out to me however many years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► explained to me what the internet was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► and then after explaining to me what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► internet was he explained that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► were other people on the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► the Internet and after I asked a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► questions about that that you patiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► answered then you said and I said why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► would a band want to be on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► and you were very patient with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► explained some of the reasons why a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► might want to be on the Internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► then you said I want to do a podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► then you patiently explained what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► was a lot of layers and and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► mm hmm hmm hmm and now we've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► this podcast for 40 years 40 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► it really has there have been times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► this podcast was the thing that kept me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► in the world mm-hmm it was the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► I was doing that that was collaborative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► and interactive and and outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► myself dependent dependent on someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► else not just doing work but on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► someone else being into it mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► right like bringing their own they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► not just their their participation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► they're there I mean like the love of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► doing it enough to do it and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► would have thought you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► I mean we knew a lot of people 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► ago that we still know but we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► very well anymore and we knew those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► people as well as we knew each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► then but you and I know each other now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► depressing to say this out loud as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► depressing as it sounds and actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► but like a lot of this is this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► opportunity for me to have regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► meetings with friends of mine I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► honestly this is this show in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► that was kind of you know little talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► about the show on the show but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► kind of legit about how it started was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► that this you know what's on stove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► whatever's in the show is in the show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► wasn't like we had to say well let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► come up with a topic list and hope we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► can figure out something to say and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► I um you know I don't know I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► don't do it enough and I don't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► well but I admire the people who do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► love other people's intelligence maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► we should maybe we should start a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► know my dad's got a barn my dad's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► killer set of tools you gonna play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► chainsaw yeah when didn't know I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► set I'm gonna set off my job is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► be the set up one stick of dynamite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► every 14 days and skulk around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEN8FuKc/6045">TS</a>]