Cortex 50: Golden Anniversary


00:00:00   so I've been away for a few weeks and I [TS]

00:00:02   haven't been playing as much attention [TS]

00:00:04   to the internet as I have been [TS]

00:00:06   previously and then I'm sitting in my [TS]

00:00:10   office yesterday and I get a push [TS]

00:00:13   notification from YouTube that cgp grey [TS]

00:00:15   is live like this is new oh so I open [TS]

00:00:20   the YouTube app and there is this big [TS]

00:00:23   screen with a chat window on the right [TS]

00:00:25   hand side and all these numbers and it [TS]

00:00:27   says intermission so I'm like what's [TS]

00:00:31   this chat thing so I go up and I sign up [TS]

00:00:33   for discord and I appear in this chat [TS]

00:00:35   room and then I am entered into the [TS]

00:00:38   world of CGP grey gaming livestreamer [TS]

00:00:41   hmm no yeah what is going on what of I I [TS]

00:00:46   feel like I've caught you in the act [TS]

00:00:48   that's how it felt to me it's like all [TS]

00:00:51   of a sudden I go to see GP play which [TS]

00:00:54   was set up a long time ago yeah it's [TS]

00:00:56   like six videos there they're all like [TS]

00:00:58   two hours long you're talking about your [TS]

00:01:01   levels and your framerate and like who [TS]

00:01:03   is this person and I pop into the chat [TS]

00:01:06   and and then you started laughing [TS]

00:01:09   because you knew I'd found you at that [TS]

00:01:11   point and you've been rumbled that was [TS]

00:01:13   you didn't find me I thought I was busy [TS]

00:01:15   I was just doing I'm just doing my own [TS]

00:01:17   thing and and you you finally finally [TS]

00:01:20   noticed that's all all I will say is [TS]

00:01:22   wait we have a very good working [TS]

00:01:24   relationship me in you and we share [TS]

00:01:26   things like this with each other when [TS]

00:01:27   we're trying new stuff out you didn't [TS]

00:01:29   tell me about this one you just you just [TS]

00:01:32   well off on your own and got your gaming [TS]

00:01:35   software that's like I don't like the [TS]

00:01:38   implication there first of all Mike [TS]

00:01:39   there are many things that you don't [TS]

00:01:40   know about right I have like a whole [TS]

00:01:42   secret life of secret projects well I [TS]

00:01:45   have secrets too okay it's not a [TS]

00:01:48   competition it's not a secret [TS]

00:01:49   competition like wait cut if it's a [TS]

00:01:52   sacred competition we wouldn't even know [TS]

00:01:53   about it right well you know I guess I [TS]

00:01:56   guess yeah maybe not um yeah I just you [TS]

00:02:01   know I'm just just trying something out [TS]

00:02:02   just playing around I'm just messing [TS]

00:02:04   around on the Internet Mike mm-hmm don't [TS]

00:02:06   don't you worry don't you worry I call [TS]

00:02:08   my eye on you you're off to something I [TS]

00:02:11   don't know what it is yet but I know [TS]

00:02:13   you're up to some [TS]

00:02:13   I'm not up to anything I don't even know [TS]

00:02:17   what I'm up to [TS]

00:02:18   happy episode 50 gray it is our golden [TS]

00:02:22   anniversary happy cortex over Surrey now [TS]

00:02:26   I think that cortex over Surrey is held [TS]

00:02:28   back for birthdays after shower as it [TS]

00:02:31   was that for birthdays for this yeah [TS]

00:02:33   yeah we fell into that hole while ago I [TS]

00:02:36   realized that we've actually used a name [TS]

00:02:38   before but we could maybe call this a [TS]

00:02:40   cortex over Surrey - it can be many [TS]

00:02:42   contexts of bursaries like how the Queen [TS]

00:02:43   has many birthdays we have many contexts [TS]

00:02:45   of bursaries yeah it's like she gets to [TS]

00:02:47   cheat she was like three birthdays like [TS]

00:02:49   wait a minute how did you wrangle that [TS]

00:02:51   out the answer is she's the queen yeah [TS]

00:02:53   if you can make up all the rules I'd [TS]

00:02:55   have 10 birthdays one up bring me all [TS]

00:02:57   the presents give me a parade I want a [TS]

00:03:00   parade it's my birthday twice a day you [TS]

00:03:02   have to bring me two presents yeah I'm [TS]

00:03:04   kind of surprised that there hasn't been [TS]

00:03:06   a parade for episode 50 at the show but [TS]

00:03:08   like you know whatever people don't want [TS]

00:03:10   to put that together that's fine here we [TS]

00:03:12   are it's it's episode number 50 and I [TS]

00:03:15   mentioned this in our last episode that [TS]

00:03:17   I wanted to take episode 50 as a time to [TS]

00:03:20   look back on the show a little bit yes [TS]

00:03:23   we've been doing we've been doing this [TS]

00:03:24   for what five years now it's not think [TS]

00:03:28   of something like that I actually [TS]

00:03:29   genuinely don't have any idea how long [TS]

00:03:31   we've been doing it it's about two years [TS]

00:03:32   Wow which I never quite remember that [TS]

00:03:38   it's been that long like it doesn't feel [TS]

00:03:40   it doesn't feel like it's been two years [TS]

00:03:42   yeah that doesn't feel right at all in [TS]

00:03:44   my head either yeah we started the show [TS]

00:03:46   in June 2015 [TS]

00:03:48   so we're rounding up on two years yeah I [TS]

00:03:50   guess that makes sense right because [TS]

00:03:52   last summer or how do i phrase the way [TS]

00:03:55   my brain is putting this together I was [TS]

00:03:57   going to say last summer existed and was [TS]

00:04:01   not the Knightmare summer of when we [TS]

00:04:03   started cortex yep and we're coming up [TS]

00:04:05   on a new summer so yeah I guess yeah [TS]

00:04:08   that would make sense about two years [TS]

00:04:10   but yes so over this time I think we [TS]

00:04:14   have implanted our old wisdom that we [TS]

00:04:16   have right we're out of wisdom this is [TS]

00:04:18   actually the last show no don't say [TS]

00:04:20   stuff like that because when you say [TS]

00:04:22   folks are we not supposed to tell the [TS]

00:04:24   people that this is the last show don't [TS]

00:04:25   do that [TS]

00:04:26   don't do it [TS]

00:04:27   not fair you're being mean now to the to [TS]

00:04:30   the listeners that's not fair to me that [TS]

00:04:32   way oh you want a different impression [TS]

00:04:35   ha ha oh I thought we were doing a very [TS]

00:04:38   different show today what uh sir sorry [TS]

00:04:40   to say buddy check the contract who is [TS]

00:04:41   still going you ain't get away from me [TS]

00:04:43   yet Oh No [TS]

00:04:45   why did I sign this you ain't getting [TS]

00:04:47   away from me I've got you we're gonna be [TS]

00:04:49   doing this for a long time to come to [TS]

00:04:50   send a message to my lawyer [TS]

00:04:52   well it's too late for that I've [TS]

00:04:54   employed a vast team to make sure that [TS]

00:04:57   you're not gonna get out of my clutches [TS]

00:04:59   but we are gonna take some time to look [TS]

00:05:02   back at the show and a couple of things [TS]

00:05:05   I asked our listeners and also listeners [TS]

00:05:07   to provide us with some times where we [TS]

00:05:08   said some stupid things and also for [TS]

00:05:11   people to tell us what they've learned [TS]

00:05:12   over the show every now and then if [TS]

00:05:15   you've said they SH you got it we got a [TS]

00:05:16   review and summarize and this this is a [TS]

00:05:18   review and summary of the last 50 [TS]

00:05:20   episodes I think who think we should [TS]

00:05:23   start off with some of the stupid stuff [TS]

00:05:24   we said okay so this does one for me and [TS]

00:05:27   one for you here which it which I think [TS]

00:05:29   kind of hilarious mmm Bernardo wrote in [TS]

00:05:32   to remind me that on Episode one of the [TS]

00:05:34   show I said I have an iPad I just don't [TS]

00:05:37   use it ever the only thing I ever use it [TS]

00:05:39   for his video and I remember I bro I [TS]

00:05:43   have vivid memories of recording episode [TS]

00:05:45   1 of the show oh do you yeah I remember [TS]

00:05:48   it vividly and I remember at that point [TS]

00:05:51   I took a look to my right hand side on [TS]

00:05:53   my iPad was sitting there underneath a [TS]

00:05:55   book so at that point I really was not [TS]

00:06:03   on the iPad train in any way no no I [TS]

00:06:06   think also like I listened to the clip [TS]

00:06:08   and and you at that point really were [TS]

00:06:11   not either like you were using them more [TS]

00:06:13   but like pretty much primarily for [TS]

00:06:15   consumption at that point is that is [TS]

00:06:17   that how I described at the time kind of [TS]

00:06:19   like you talked about it being like a [TS]

00:06:21   great entertainment device hmm it's I [TS]

00:06:25   feel like we have to go back and look at [TS]

00:06:26   the record because I think maybe I was [TS]

00:06:28   agreeing with you that as good as an [TS]

00:06:29   entertainment device but like I always [TS]

00:06:32   wrote scripts on an iPad like a lot all [TS]

00:06:35   I have Starwood's that you said and [TS]

00:06:38   luckily there is a record and I said [TS]

00:06:40   this wouldn't be a clip show but now [TS]

00:06:42   we're only five minutes in and I'm gonna [TS]

00:06:43   play a clip is it fair to say maybe your [TS]

00:06:49   iPhone is the most important of the two [TS]

00:06:51   that's a hot if I had to pick between [TS]

00:06:54   the two if I could only have one that's [TS]

00:06:56   a difficult question I'd have to sit [TS]

00:06:57   down and think about that for a while [TS]

00:06:59   that's not immediately answerable wow [TS]

00:07:02   that's surprising to me I guess that [TS]

00:07:04   shows a difference in the way that let [TS]

00:07:05   me and you work like I don't even use an [TS]

00:07:06   iPad I have one I just don't use it ever [TS]

00:07:08   right um because you know my iPhone is [TS]

00:07:12   like that's like the most important [TS]

00:07:13   device I own I think yeah it's it's [TS]

00:07:16   closer it's closer for me it's it my my [TS]

00:07:19   iPads do not live unloved on the floor [TS]

00:07:22   somewhere in my house is presumably [TS]

00:07:23   yours does it's like somewhere if I ever [TS]

00:07:27   need it I always have to search for it [TS]

00:07:28   it's never it's never in a place that's [TS]

00:07:30   immediately obvious mmm like the only [TS]

00:07:33   thing I ever ever use it for is to watch [TS]

00:07:34   video on yeah but they're very good for [TS]

00:07:37   browsing stuff I feel like I using an [TS]

00:07:43   iPad for writing was always the thing [TS]

00:07:46   that attracted me at the very first to [TS]

00:07:47   the eye apparently there's a little [TS]

00:07:48   reason I bought an iPad was I remember [TS]

00:07:50   looking at my wife's iPad which I [TS]

00:07:51   originally thought was like oh this will [TS]

00:07:53   just be a thing used for video and then [TS]

00:07:54   I saw her using I was like ooh that [TS]

00:07:56   looks really interesting um and like I [TS]

00:08:00   think I think I might started using this [TS]

00:08:01   since I was borrowing hers all the time [TS]

00:08:03   like back and back in the day but yeah [TS]

00:08:05   it's I mean no matter no matter what I [TS]

00:08:06   said in the clip the mic just played [TS]

00:08:08   like without a doubt uh you know the [TS]

00:08:12   iPads were were way closer to toys [TS]

00:08:15   two years ago yeah than they are now [TS]

00:08:18   yeah like even if you were doing a bunch [TS]

00:08:19   of writing on them and like and I went [TS]

00:08:21   I've been through phases whether they [TS]

00:08:23   were useful for me from a Productivity [TS]

00:08:25   perspective or not over the last you [TS]

00:08:27   know seven years the iPads have been [TS]

00:08:28   around mm-hmm but I wasn't in the place [TS]

00:08:31   with them ever than what I am now and I [TS]

00:08:34   think it was the same for you right [TS]

00:08:35   where if somebody asks you what is your [TS]

00:08:37   primary computer you said we would both [TS]

00:08:40   say iPad but we weren't in that point [TS]

00:08:42   then yeah that just wasn't really [TS]

00:08:43   possible previously not because of [TS]

00:08:45   software limitations and because of [TS]

00:08:47   hardware limitations and yeah I think I [TS]

00:08:49   think both of us have have come to the [TS]

00:08:51   conclusion that we think [TS]

00:08:52   of our IMAX now as production machine [TS]

00:08:57   what stations yeah like yet workstations [TS]

00:08:59   to be set up yep like with particular [TS]

00:09:02   tools for particular purposes and that [TS]

00:09:05   our iPads have taken over the role as [TS]

00:09:08   general function computer right the [TS]

00:09:11   device that can do a bunch of stuff that [TS]

00:09:13   was definitely one of the really [TS]

00:09:15   interesting things that I noticed by [TS]

00:09:16   looking over the arc of the shownotes [TS]

00:09:18   basically a couple of weeks after we [TS]

00:09:20   started the show iOS 9 was released well [TS]

00:09:23   like we know it was previewed at WDC oh [TS]

00:09:25   wow ok interesting and then that starts [TS]

00:09:28   everything right because it was iOS 9 [TS]

00:09:30   that enabled people to be able to use [TS]

00:09:32   iOS more productively on an iPad and [TS]

00:09:35   then it kind of moves on from there all [TS]

00:09:36   the way up to the point where I buy one [TS]

00:09:40   iPad on a whim and then the second one [TS]

00:09:42   just because yes yes this could go from [TS]

00:09:48   having one iPad under a book to two [TS]

00:09:51   iPads and constant use yep [TS]

00:09:53   Multi pad lifestyle yeah it's important [TS]

00:09:56   Richard wrote in to say the UH nepo [TS]

00:09:58   sewed for you said there's no point for [TS]

00:10:00   anyone in the world to have to Apple [TS]

00:10:02   watches okay I feel the need to contest [TS]

00:10:07   uh-huh this like you're probably going [TS]

00:10:09   to have to pay another clip we go really [TS]

00:10:13   far another clip show yeah this is not a [TS]

00:10:16   clip show but except except what uh I [TS]

00:10:19   feel it's such a disadvantage because I [TS]

00:10:21   feel like I'm gonna be arguing I can [TS]

00:10:23   marketing without hearing what I said [TS]

00:10:24   back in the day but I'm because I am [TS]

00:10:27   willing to bet that what I was [TS]

00:10:29   discussing was that was in the context [TS]

00:10:32   of the limitations of the Apple watch at [TS]

00:10:34   the time because if you remember when [TS]

00:10:37   the Apple watch first came out there was [TS]

00:10:39   no way to have more than one Apple watch [TS]

00:10:41   right they paired to a phone you can't [TS]

00:10:43   make the argument that like I said [TS]

00:10:44   something because I didn't know the [TS]

00:10:46   future that's not how this works right [TS]

00:10:49   well that's all I'm saying is if the [TS]

00:10:51   context of this is we say stupid stuff I [TS]

00:10:55   think the full context of that quote is [TS]

00:10:57   not dumb it's like oh given the [TS]

00:10:59   limitations at the time it would have [TS]

00:11:00   been dumb to have two watches but then [TS]

00:11:02   mine's fine too because back then the [TS]

00:11:04   iPad really was [TS]

00:11:05   really good for video and not much else [TS]

00:11:07   I think I think I was making that [TS]

00:11:08   argument for you earlier it's not that [TS]

00:11:10   like me and you a categorically stupid [TS]

00:11:12   it's that given what we know now with [TS]

00:11:15   hindsight these things are funny mmm [TS]

00:11:17   that's what this is I don't know I feel [TS]

00:11:19   like everything oh well let listeners [TS]

00:11:21   decide when they listen to that clip but [TS]

00:11:22   I bet there is some context about given [TS]

00:11:25   the limitations of the device at the [TS]

00:11:26   time it would be dumb to have more than [TS]

00:11:29   one watch now it's obviously great to [TS]

00:11:31   have two watches yeah I guess maybe even [TS]

00:11:34   three what you don't do you know I don't [TS]

00:11:37   know I don't I don't know but it has [TS]

00:11:38   crossed my mind like oh I could imagine [TS]

00:11:40   a situation where three would be really [TS]

00:11:41   useful well four huh [TS]

00:11:42   well now four is crazy there's no reason [TS]

00:11:45   in the world for anyone for watches [TS]

00:11:53   episode 75 and episode 50 I think my [TS]

00:11:58   contract ends at episode 74 Dustin I [TS]

00:12:01   just don't do this to people you know [TS]

00:12:06   you have to unpair the watch and like go [TS]

00:12:10   rego through a kind of load from backup [TS]

00:12:13   irritating semi set up process for [TS]

00:12:15   switching over the watches so even if [TS]

00:12:19   you wanted to be a crazy person who had [TS]

00:12:21   redundant watches which i think is a [TS]

00:12:23   little bizarre Apple is saying no on [TS]

00:12:27   this one there they're putting down [TS]

00:12:28   their foot and going you can't have [TS]

00:12:30   redundant watches I don't know if you [TS]

00:12:31   can start throwing the bizarre tag [TS]

00:12:33   around you do have like three iPads in [TS]

00:12:36   use yes but there are uses for all those [TS]

00:12:38   iPads yeah but there will be used for [TS]

00:12:39   the two watches want to track your sleep [TS]

00:12:42   want to go about your day with um okay [TS]

00:12:46   but but even even if even if you could [TS]

00:12:48   pair two watches this is all notion of [TS]

00:12:51   using the watch to track your sleep as a [TS]

00:12:53   redundant one that wouldn't it wouldn't [TS]

00:12:55   work anyway the watch isn't designed for [TS]

00:12:56   that and I don't think this sleep [TS]

00:12:59   tracking with the current state of it [TS]

00:13:00   would even work over night anyway so is [TS]

00:13:02   there is no point in the world to having [TS]

00:13:06   two Apple watches there's there's an [TS]

00:13:08   this is a solution for nobody's problem [TS]

00:13:11   that like this this accomplishes nothing [TS]

00:13:13   whereas you know there are many many [TS]

00:13:15   cases of more than one iPad being [TS]

00:13:18   useful there was also a time when you [TS]

00:13:24   said no more than 10 episodes so you [TS]

00:13:26   know now look at you yeah overworked [TS]

00:13:31   doll overworked like a beast of burden [TS]

00:13:33   that's not what I am like just a slave [TS]

00:13:36   producing content an endless stream of [TS]

00:13:38   content that's my life is that is that [TS]

00:13:42   what you do that's what it feels like [TS]

00:13:44   that's what I feel like I feel like CGP [TS]

00:13:47   grey production of an endless stream of [TS]

00:13:49   Conte it never ends from my perspective [TS]

00:13:51   what if you keep adding things to it [TS]

00:13:53   that is true yeah that's that's that's [TS]

00:13:56   one thing that's the thing you don't [TS]

00:13:57   have yourself to blame it's like a [TS]

00:13:58   waterfall of content this episode of [TS]

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00:16:24   favorite things about the follow up that [TS]

00:16:26   we get from this show is when people [TS]

00:16:28   write in to say that's something that we [TS]

00:16:31   spoken about has made a big impact in [TS]

00:16:32   their life and it's kind of like the [TS]

00:16:34   reverse of care tax which is a thing [TS]

00:16:37   that we try and do every now and then [TS]

00:16:38   and I continue to encourage people to [TS]

00:16:40   send things like this into us like [TS]

00:16:42   questions you know where they maybe need [TS]

00:16:44   some advice from us if they think we're [TS]

00:16:46   in a position be able to help but the [TS]

00:16:48   other side of it is when people write in [TS]

00:16:49   and say how things that we've broken [TS]

00:16:50   about on the show have just helped them [TS]

00:16:52   um and I wanted to cover a few of those [TS]

00:16:55   as well as just some people that have [TS]

00:16:56   made some interesting changes to their [TS]

00:16:58   life having listened to the show [TS]

00:16:59   Ariba 66 on reddit wrote in to say if a [TS]

00:17:03   few things that they have done since [TS]

00:17:05   listening to cortex and I feel like that [TS]

00:17:07   they more than anybody encapsulated the [TS]

00:17:10   whole run of the show into their life so [TS]

00:17:12   this person says now I listen to [TS]

00:17:14   thunderstorm sounds throughout my whole [TS]

00:17:16   day because it occupies the part of my [TS]

00:17:18   mind that can't stand silence but still [TS]

00:17:19   lets me think ah fantastic yeah they got [TS]

00:17:22   it [TS]

00:17:23   except when I'm at the gym when it's [TS]

00:17:24   girl talks all day which is quite [TS]

00:17:27   possibly the best motivational album [TS]

00:17:29   ever created mmm yeah I don't listen to [TS]

00:17:31   that the gym but that could make for [TS]

00:17:32   some really good gym music always good [TS]

00:17:34   at the gym is good at the gym you should [TS]

00:17:37   do that but then you might start writing [TS]

00:17:38   accidentally and then then who knows [TS]

00:17:40   what's going to happen yeah now the hope [TS]

00:17:41   the whole point of this is you have to [TS]

00:17:43   train your brain for different contexts [TS]

00:17:44   so [TS]

00:17:45   it can't be gym music because it's work [TS]

00:17:47   music girl-talk has more than one album [TS]

00:17:49   now there's only one album that exists [TS]

00:17:51   and that is all day interesting [TS]

00:17:53   they go on to say I've got GTD systems [TS]

00:17:55   on every device in my email inboxes [TS]

00:17:57   always at zero now I'll say they didn't [TS]

00:17:59   learn that from us because I was gonna [TS]

00:18:01   say how you doing work better than me on [TS]

00:18:03   that yeah you've definitely passed us in [TS]

00:18:05   the in the getting your inbox to zero [TS]

00:18:07   the thing I now have personal finance [TS]

00:18:10   tracker z' that I've built in Excel [TS]

00:18:12   because no app would do what I needed I [TS]

00:18:14   understand that yeah I know they can [TS]

00:18:16   forecast my spending and savings twelve [TS]

00:18:18   months into the future I want these [TS]

00:18:20   spreadsheets personally okay it sounds [TS]

00:18:23   like sounds like this person has built [TS]

00:18:24   an unintentional business look like if [TS]

00:18:26   you can you can start selling these [TS]

00:18:28   spreadsheets why Smart Watch notifies we [TS]

00:18:31   went to do my laundry and charge my [TS]

00:18:32   toothbrush and even go to sleep because [TS]

00:18:34   it's in my calendar stored on my ever [TS]

00:18:36   muted phone hmm since I started [TS]

00:18:39   listening to cortex about eighteen [TS]

00:18:41   months ago I don't feel like I have [TS]

00:18:42   intentionally changed anything [TS]

00:18:43   dramatically I feel more like things [TS]

00:18:45   that I have learned and dripped that [TS]

00:18:47   into my daily life and routines have [TS]

00:18:48   just allowed me to be more myself [TS]

00:18:50   allowing me to see a future horizon in [TS]

00:18:52   all the different directions of my life [TS]

00:18:54   I like this paragraph because I think [TS]

00:18:58   this sums up me hmm I haven't really [TS]

00:19:01   tried to make any big changes [TS]

00:19:04   specifically because of that what I've [TS]

00:19:06   learned over this show and later on in [TS]

00:19:08   the show I'm gonna say what I feel like [TS]

00:19:09   I have learned and I how I have changed [TS]

00:19:11   but most of the things that I've done [TS]

00:19:13   they've just happened because of us [TS]

00:19:17   talking about this stuff I don't think [TS]

00:19:19   there are many things if any that I did [TS]

00:19:21   is like this big experiment with maybe [TS]

00:19:23   the exception of time tracking yeah no I [TS]

00:19:27   totally agree with you and I like this [TS]

00:19:29   comment as well it's funny I was I was [TS]

00:19:32   actually just talking to talking to my [TS]

00:19:33   wife about this the other day about how [TS]

00:19:35   again it is it is rare that there's a [TS]

00:19:38   big conscious thing that changes your [TS]

00:19:43   life for the better like those events [TS]

00:19:45   happen but most of your life is about [TS]

00:19:48   constantly making small little changes [TS]

00:19:52   over time and then it's only like when [TS]

00:19:54   you look back you realize like oh I've [TS]

00:19:55   changed over the past year I've changed [TS]

00:19:58   12 things [TS]

00:19:58   each of which has had a positive [TS]

00:20:00   influence on the way that I live or the [TS]

00:20:03   way that I work and like that that kind [TS]

00:20:06   of that kind of slow small even sort of [TS]

00:20:12   like semi unintentional positive changes [TS]

00:20:14   like those are the things that really [TS]

00:20:17   make like daily life more frictionless [TS]

00:20:20   and-and-and like really add up at home I [TS]

00:20:24   am a better more relaxed a more [TS]

00:20:26   available person to the people I care [TS]

00:20:28   about then I was before a work I can [TS]

00:20:30   tell you that I have spent exactly 45 [TS]

00:20:32   hours 48 minutes and 37 seconds on my [TS]

00:20:35   current web development project moving [TS]

00:20:37   outside of work I'm meeting with an app [TS]

00:20:39   developer tomorrow to start work on a [TS]

00:20:41   side project Oh exsiting side projects [TS]

00:20:43   are always exciting I would love to know [TS]

00:20:46   because this person wrote in to us a [TS]

00:20:47   while ago and I've been saving it mmm [TS]

00:20:49   I would love some follow-up Erebus 66 [TS]

00:20:52   how is that side project going I'd love [TS]

00:20:55   to know an honest 1642 am at have both [TS]

00:20:59   switched to using the Dvorak keyboard as [TS]

00:21:02   their primary keyboard I would say that [TS]

00:21:04   Ana's 1642 am at Godspeed to you but I [TS]

00:21:08   think that you're both very brave for [TS]

00:21:12   doing this I'm gonna get you to switch [TS]

00:21:14   to Dvorak Mike that's something I'm [TS]

00:21:16   telling you will not happen it's gonna [TS]

00:21:18   be really easy especially when you're [TS]

00:21:19   using an iPad all the time that Dvorak [TS]

00:21:21   is gonna be super easy to switch to [TS]

00:21:22   hasn't changed there's nothing so that [TS]

00:21:25   can do that for you [TS]

00:21:25   no no Apple developers if you're [TS]

00:21:28   listening just just um just go throw it [TS]

00:21:30   out there Dvorak layout what about [TS]

00:21:32   Bluetooth keyboard like it do you use a [TS]

00:21:34   Dvorak keyboard for your iPad yeah [TS]

00:21:36   luckily that is that is a setting that [TS]

00:21:39   has been in there for forever that when [TS]

00:21:41   you're using an external keyboard you [TS]

00:21:42   can set it to be Dvorak but it's just [TS]

00:21:44   the annoying thing is like I would use [TS]

00:21:46   the glass keyboard more if I could use [TS]

00:21:50   that as as a Dvorak layout but I just I [TS]

00:21:52   just can't so I always have to type [TS]

00:21:54   really weirdly and slowly that way but [TS]

00:21:56   yeah those those brave souls who switch [TS]

00:21:59   to Dvorak I wish you the best I do [TS]

00:22:03   really like it like it has personally [TS]

00:22:05   benefited me but I can't I can't exactly [TS]

00:22:08   feel like I'm a huge evangelist about [TS]

00:22:11   this because it is [TS]

00:22:12   it is like having a lobotomy when you [TS]

00:22:14   first try to switch it's like you've [TS]

00:22:16   just lost part of your brain yeah I'm [TS]

00:22:18   not interested in the switching costs [TS]

00:22:20   for that one I'll tell you that for free [TS]

00:22:23   yeah and there are annoyances forever [TS]

00:22:27   when you switch Dvorak again worth it [TS]

00:22:30   for me I've never had RSI problems in my [TS]

00:22:33   hands with regards to typing since I [TS]

00:22:35   made the switch which you know I didn't [TS]

00:22:36   have before which is again thing I'll [TS]

00:22:38   just mention for anybody who's having [TS]

00:22:39   that this might be this might be a very [TS]

00:22:41   good reason to switch to Dvorak and I [TS]

00:22:44   congratulate those who have come to the [TS]

00:22:46   Dvorak master race but there are always [TS]

00:22:48   Lori's know you conscious attached [TS]

00:22:50   master race to anything did you think is [TS]

00:22:53   better because then you're gonna get the [TS]

00:22:54   pcmasterrace on your case well you know [TS]

00:22:57   unluckily for them they're the inferior [TS]

00:22:59   race they just don't know it well I [TS]

00:23:01   don't know man your iMac frame rate [TS]

00:23:03   would maybe suggest differently [TS]

00:23:05   I'm just haven't gotten the settings [TS]

00:23:07   right yeah okay good good I'm still [TS]

00:23:10   working on that it is funny to hear you [TS]

00:23:12   say on your gaming livestreams about [TS]

00:23:14   having a top-of-the-line iMac and then [TS]

00:23:16   everybody just laughs at you we think we [TS]

00:23:19   can come to that later oh yes Joshua [TS]

00:23:24   started his own company oh wow [TS]

00:23:26   which is kind of incredible [TS]

00:23:28   congratulations to you mm-hmm [TS]

00:23:30   Alex started using a task manager sleep [TS]

00:23:32   tracker on a time management system and [TS]

00:23:35   Rosemarie was joined Alex in using time [TS]

00:23:38   tracking and overhauled their to-do [TS]

00:23:39   system I like all this feedback what one [TS]

00:23:41   thing I think I have found interesting [TS]

00:23:43   from our more recent shows is how the [TS]

00:23:47   time tracking sections feel like they're [TS]

00:23:50   the divisive sections yet people are [TS]

00:23:52   either super into the time tracking they [TS]

00:23:55   just do not like it yeah or feel like [TS]

00:23:57   they're going to die listening to people [TS]

00:23:59   talk about down tracking I find I find [TS]

00:24:02   that very interesting [TS]

00:24:04   yep that that there's there's like of [TS]

00:24:07   almost any topic I feel like there's no [TS]

00:24:09   topic that has a stronger mmm [TS]

00:24:12   disagreements in the everything we have [TS]

00:24:15   done I mean so like people will fight [TS]

00:24:17   over Android and iOS yeah and stuff like [TS]

00:24:20   that but they're not necessarily [TS]

00:24:21   fighting against us yeah they did [TS]

00:24:24   overtime tracking [TS]

00:24:25   yeah where is it like I've definitely [TS]

00:24:27   been on the receiving end like please [TS]

00:24:29   tell me more the exact details of your [TS]

00:24:31   time tracking system and also for the [TS]

00:24:34   love of God never talk about time [TS]

00:24:35   tracking again yeah it's like it's like [TS]

00:24:37   it's like getting my teeth pulled I [TS]

00:24:39   can't stand it I guess there's something [TS]

00:24:42   about that I find really really [TS]

00:24:44   interesting and that actually does make [TS]

00:24:46   me want to evangelize even more the [TS]

00:24:49   benefits of time tracking do everybody I [TS]

00:24:51   feel like no like no you people who are [TS]

00:24:54   anti time tracking you just don't [TS]

00:24:55   understand how how life-changing and how [TS]

00:24:59   fantastic this can this can be it really [TS]

00:25:02   is it's changed everything we're not [TS]

00:25:03   going to get into it now because we [TS]

00:25:04   don't want to start this oh but but like [TS]

00:25:08   I have to say you know I mean people [TS]

00:25:09   know we started talking about time [TS]

00:25:10   tracking a lot in the beginning of the [TS]

00:25:12   year because I was trying to do this [TS]

00:25:13   thing of time tracking lots of hours in [TS]

00:25:16   the day and I've got to say like I can [TS]

00:25:18   feel like this is this is a thing that [TS]

00:25:20   makes a huge difference and if you are [TS]

00:25:23   if you are an anti time tracking person [TS]

00:25:25   I'm like I'm gonna say it again like [TS]

00:25:27   just start small like just just track [TS]

00:25:30   your prime working hours it's like a [TS]

00:25:33   little gateway drug to seeing how useful [TS]

00:25:36   and helpful this is I think I've got to [TS]

00:25:38   pull the ripcord on this wherever one [TS]

00:25:41   turns off we will come back to time [TS]

00:25:44   tracking again one day yeah we will give [TS]

00:25:47   a lot of notice so people can just skip [TS]

00:25:49   if they're not interested yeah but I do [TS]

00:25:51   just find it interesting so divisive I [TS]

00:25:53   tested Edina right because when we were [TS]

00:25:55   getting the feedback from people at the [TS]

00:25:57   saying they weren't enjoying it I asked [TS]

00:25:59   I was like what did we talk about in the [TS]

00:26:00   episode and she didn't know mm she [TS]

00:26:03   couldn't answer when we were talking [TS]

00:26:05   about time tracking so I added that she [TS]

00:26:07   switches off to that to his time [TS]

00:26:10   tracking doesn't look like anything to [TS]

00:26:11   me yeah so don't worry listener if you [TS]

00:26:13   were unhappy about our time tracking [TS]

00:26:15   conversations people in my own house [TS]

00:26:17   wear as well so you know alone I will [TS]

00:26:21   ask you though because though many [TS]

00:26:22   people that brought up their [TS]

00:26:23   productivity management has there been [TS]

00:26:26   any movement on your productivity [TS]

00:26:28   management are you using any type of [TS]

00:26:29   to-do app anymore or you just you still [TS]

00:26:32   living like a man on the wind is that [TS]

00:26:33   why you're driving trucks more cuz you [TS]

00:26:36   don't know what your tasks are no [TS]

00:26:37   it's a you know it's a free lifestyle [TS]

00:26:39   being a trucker on the road you don't [TS]

00:26:41   have to keep track of tasks it's just [TS]

00:26:42   there's only ever one thing just you [TS]

00:26:44   feel and the delivery right that's all [TS]

00:26:46   it takes yeah it's like where am i [TS]

00:26:47   bringing this truck full of Lego - oh [TS]

00:26:49   I'm bringing it over there man I haven't [TS]

00:26:51   played trucks him in a while I'm getting [TS]

00:26:53   that pull man would ya you miss it you [TS]

00:26:55   miss a dose I'm gonna go by the truckin [TS]

00:26:57   yeah you're going to UM but but to [TS]

00:27:01   answer the question what I what I have [TS]

00:27:03   been doing is I was living just totally [TS]

00:27:07   unhinged for a while and I have very [TS]

00:27:12   very little money special see just be [TS]

00:27:16   great totally on him um I have very [TS]

00:27:21   slowly been bringing some stuff [TS]

00:27:24   mindfully back into OmniFocus so I [TS]

00:27:28   actually cleared out the whole of my [TS]

00:27:30   OmniFocus database Wow just to start [TS]

00:27:33   over fresh wow you burned it down huh [TS]

00:27:36   yeah I did I did I totally burned it [TS]

00:27:38   down because it was again a thing of [TS]

00:27:40   like I want to I want to think about how [TS]

00:27:43   am I going to use this and I still don't [TS]

00:27:47   have a full system set up in a [TS]

00:27:51   meaningful way but I am using OmniFocus [TS]

00:27:53   to again do all the like the templating [TS]

00:27:56   stuff that we've discussed previously [TS]

00:27:57   that they can do for a bunch of [TS]

00:28:00   checklists so I have returned to using [TS]

00:28:03   OmniFocus for those checklists but I'm [TS]

00:28:05   using it less than I did before but [TS]

00:28:08   again this is an intentional like slow [TS]

00:28:11   rethinking of how do I want to use some [TS]

00:28:13   of these tools so there is a system but [TS]

00:28:16   not a full system yet so this is just a [TS]

00:28:19   selection of the people that wrote in to [TS]

00:28:21   say that they're using these systems to [TS]

00:28:23   do management time tracking mmm sleep [TS]

00:28:25   tracking stuff like that mmm not one [TS]

00:28:28   person wrote in to say about the email [TS]

00:28:31   habits changing that no one wrote in to [TS]

00:28:36   talk about the email apps that they're [TS]

00:28:37   using nobody brought in to talk about [TS]

00:28:40   like adopting your VIP system nobody we [TS]

00:28:44   spent so much time on email that should [TS]

00:28:46   have been the divisive topic but it was [TS]

00:28:47   not mmm but nobody wrote in to say [TS]

00:28:50   anything about there [TS]

00:28:51   no habit I guess I guess it's because [TS]

00:28:53   people's email that they've all got it [TS]

00:28:54   locked down yeah everybody's everybody [TS]

00:28:57   is perfectly happy with their email [TS]

00:28:58   clients everybody's doing great I'm [TS]

00:29:00   using a mail still by the way in case [TS]

00:29:02   anybody's gonna keep in school I'm back [TS]

00:29:05   to mail Dada [TS]

00:29:06   Oh again because uni box like it updated [TS]

00:29:10   the week before I mentioned it on the [TS]

00:29:11   show and it never updated again oh I [TS]

00:29:14   think it's dead oh no it was like not a [TS]

00:29:17   novel one yeah it was like mentioning it [TS]

00:29:20   on the show like oh is the kiss of death [TS]

00:29:23   we had to stop talking about things we [TS]

00:29:25   like you know that right yeah we had to [TS]

00:29:27   keep it secret eh so was convinced to [TS]

00:29:30   buy an iPad pro so that it's basically a [TS]

00:29:32   monster reddit email Netflix and YouTube [TS]

00:29:35   device which I can get behind you know I [TS]

00:29:37   like to do my work but I also love to [TS]

00:29:39   watch YouTube on it how else was how [TS]

00:29:42   else will i watch grey drive across [TS]

00:29:44   America on my iPad that's where I do it [TS]

00:29:47   yeah so it's big enough you can see the [TS]

00:29:49   chat something like that dave says that [TS]

00:29:52   they refuse to put any apps on the [TS]

00:29:54   bottom row of his home screen or more [TS]

00:29:57   than three apps in the dock yeah that's [TS]

00:29:59   the way to do it that's the way to do it [TS]

00:30:01   really yeah the three app that I don't [TS]

00:30:04   know why I disagree with this so much [TS]

00:30:05   with the three apps in the dock it looks [TS]

00:30:06   so nice let's push wasted space and the [TS]

00:30:09   empty bottom row it's for temporary apps [TS]

00:30:11   I fill up my entire screen now grey I [TS]

00:30:13   know you do and it looks like garbage [TS]

00:30:14   the whole thing the whole thing is full [TS]

00:30:16   of apps now yeah if it works for you [TS]

00:30:20   that's fine I have too many things to do [TS]

00:30:22   but I do many things to do so you need [TS]

00:30:27   all those apps yeah I need them all [TS]

00:30:29   there where else am I gonna put my time [TS]

00:30:31   tracker I don't know if it I don't think [TS]

00:30:33   that that's not a valid that's not a [TS]

00:30:34   valid conclusion they are you doing to [TS]

00:30:35   me like perfectly valid you are you are [TS]

00:30:37   a podcaster mm-hmm like I'm a podcaster [TS]

00:30:40   educational video producer live streamer [TS]

00:30:43   hey hey I'm a I'm a business owner [TS]

00:30:46   podcaster and youtuber alright I'll wear [TS]

00:30:51   those hats I still don't think that [TS]

00:30:54   justifies all the apps on your phone but [TS]

00:30:56   you know if you like it that's fine so I [TS]

00:30:58   have a seeker about you this is [TS]

00:31:00   something that I've been holding on to [TS]

00:31:02   for about six months and have not [TS]

00:31:04   mentioned it [TS]

00:31:05   but I think now is the time to address [TS]

00:31:07   it mmm so you have been a proponent of [TS]

00:31:11   the iPhone se right that has been [TS]

00:31:13   something that we've spoken about in the [TS]

00:31:14   past you love the little phone it's the [TS]

00:31:16   perfect phone and all that nonsense when [TS]

00:31:18   you moved away from the big phone about [TS]

00:31:21   six months ago when we were in Ireland [TS]

00:31:23   together I spotted you and you knew I [TS]

00:31:27   saw you using an iPhone 7 ooh [TS]

00:31:30   the regular-sized iPhone 7 whoo [TS]

00:31:33   you know you don't use the iPhone se [TS]

00:31:34   anymore do you gray oh we we can't get [TS]

00:31:38   into this Mike this is like is this like [TS]

00:31:39   your whole thing uh-huh we can't get [TS]

00:31:42   into this now all right this is we can't [TS]

00:31:45   we can't do this right now [TS]

00:31:46   it's too much it's too much okay now is [TS]

00:31:50   that we I wanted to tell I want our [TS]

00:31:52   listeners to know all right [TS]

00:31:53   need to know that you've been living a [TS]

00:31:55   lie for this time is not living a lie I [TS]

00:31:58   haven't mentioned anything you're living [TS]

00:32:00   a life of a mission yeah that's that's [TS]

00:32:04   what being a being a public person in [TS]

00:32:07   the world is like hey guess what you [TS]

00:32:08   don't always mention absolutely [TS]

00:32:09   everything you do all the time yeah sure [TS]

00:32:11   well I mean we talk about every product [TS]

00:32:14   Under the Sun that we buy on this show [TS]

00:32:15   but you neglected to mention this one [TS]

00:32:17   cuz it's like it's the whole thing I [TS]

00:32:19   don't want I don't want to get into it [TS]

00:32:21   right now it's like a big story well I [TS]

00:32:22   want to listen this to know we're gonna [TS]

00:32:24   get into this no okay all right I won't [TS]

00:32:27   ever want to go to the reddit and and [TS]

00:32:30   say about how much they want us to [TS]

00:32:32   discuss this the fact that you neglected [TS]

00:32:35   the SE and have moved to the iPhone 7 [TS]

00:32:37   because I think everybody deserves to [TS]

00:32:39   know why yes a mic doesn't even know [TS]

00:32:41   what I've done Mike doesn't even have [TS]

00:32:42   any idea and it's gonna be tumbleweeds [TS]

00:32:44   in that reddit all I know that is that [TS]

00:32:46   you've done it and I spotted you and [TS]

00:32:50   even then you refuse to talk about it [TS]

00:32:52   you think you think you know you think [TS]

00:32:54   you know but you don't know Mike I was [TS]

00:32:56   in SC in a big case well tough yes yeah [TS]

00:33:00   we'll talk about it some other time [TS]

00:33:02   we'll talk about some other time right [TS]

00:33:03   now I'm enjoying how we've improved [TS]

00:33:05   people's lives Mike oh yeah we don't [TS]

00:33:08   need to get into like a big phone big [TS]

00:33:10   phone sign tangent right now right yeah [TS]

00:33:12   okay should we go back to talking about [TS]

00:33:14   the people yeah let's go back to talking [TS]

00:33:16   about the people your favorite topic [TS]

00:33:18   right [TS]

00:33:18   yeah my favorite topic I think things [TS]

00:33:20   were and to say this show has taught me [TS]

00:33:23   that nobody is born a youtuber or [TS]

00:33:25   podcaster now that line is the most [TS]

00:33:30   beautiful backhanded compliment I've [TS]

00:33:31   ever received how is that backhanded [TS]

00:33:34   it's like because it's like these two [TS]

00:33:38   not very good they found their own way [TS]

00:33:40   they don't have that I hope natural-born [TS]

00:33:42   Talent proceeded like it was spoken [TS]

00:33:46   about it but that makes it sound like [TS]

00:33:47   you believe you were predestined to be a [TS]

00:33:51   podcaster right you're like who's this [TS]

00:33:53   who's this person telling me that I was [TS]

00:33:55   not born to be a podcaster hmm I don't [TS]

00:33:59   know about that one I know what they're [TS]

00:34:01   trying to say but it's a part of me [TS]

00:34:02   that's kind of just like he doesn't have [TS]

00:34:04   any real talent listen I think things in [TS]

00:34:09   the reddit I really like that line I [TS]

00:34:11   appreciate it don't listen oh I do [TS]

00:34:13   appreciate it but I also see a different [TS]

00:34:15   side to it I'm choosing to believe that [TS]

00:34:17   they mean it in a good way [TS]

00:34:18   mmm before the show in my head gray was [TS]

00:34:21   just meant to be a youtuber and you just [TS]

00:34:23   had the talent of a podcaster the course [TS]

00:34:25   of this show helped me to realize that [TS]

00:34:27   you're just a once bank manager or [TS]

00:34:28   marketer who spent enough time doing [TS]

00:34:30   something interesting that you became [TS]

00:34:32   very good at it 104 it gray is just a [TS]

00:34:34   high school physics teacher who got fed [TS]

00:34:36   up and wanted to do something completely [TS]

00:34:37   on his own and just got good at making [TS]

00:34:39   interesting videos I don't say this is [TS]

00:34:42   an insult there you go see see think but [TS]

00:34:44   they know that it can be right I don't [TS]

00:34:47   say this is an insult I say that as a [TS]

00:34:49   realization that all the people in [TS]

00:34:51   internet celebrities I know are no [TS]

00:34:52   different than me except that they tried [TS]

00:34:54   something and succeeded and now I'm [TS]

00:34:55   trying something to and drive him for [TS]

00:34:57   success so thanks yeah that's that's [TS]

00:34:59   fantastic I was making fun I was making [TS]

00:35:01   fun oh don't get all sensitive now Mike [TS]

00:35:04   how come why'd you make me out to be a [TS]

00:35:06   bad person yeah god I can't allow that [TS]

00:35:10   you left yourself open I know I did I [TS]

00:35:13   know that was a bad move I made a [TS]

00:35:14   misstep that's it I mean it is a good [TS]

00:35:17   point because I think it's something [TS]

00:35:18   that me and you have tried to to talk [TS]

00:35:20   about a lot and there's a couple of [TS]

00:35:22   strands to it you know like we talked [TS]

00:35:23   about the fact that people have talent I [TS]

00:35:25   mean there are people that have [TS]

00:35:26   differing skills and some people who are [TS]

00:35:28   better at some things than others [TS]

00:35:30   but really you can get by in a lot of [TS]

00:35:33   ways by just really trying hard and [TS]

00:35:34   working at something you know and [TS]

00:35:37   because you know I don't know if [TS]

00:35:39   necessarily me or you have any real [TS]

00:35:40   talents that that make us good at what [TS]

00:35:42   we do except we put in a lot of time and [TS]

00:35:45   work to try and get to the places that [TS]

00:35:47   we're at like I really like this because [TS]

00:35:51   you know I've met I mentioned before [TS]

00:35:53   back when I was just a physics teacher [TS]

00:35:55   like I was always trying to encourage [TS]

00:35:57   the the kids who were like interested in [TS]

00:36:01   doing a thing that you could just start [TS]

00:36:03   in life like just like just get started [TS]

00:36:05   like that's it is at the same time like [TS]

00:36:09   the most useless advice you can possibly [TS]

00:36:10   give someone and the most true advice [TS]

00:36:12   that you can possibly give someone right [TS]

00:36:14   it's like just if you want to try to do [TS]

00:36:16   a thing like just try to do the thing [TS]

00:36:19   you know you don't you don't need [TS]

00:36:22   certification or predestination from [TS]

00:36:25   from somebody else like you can just you [TS]

00:36:27   can just give it a go and and and try [TS]

00:36:29   and repeat and iterate and see what [TS]

00:36:33   works and see what doesn't work and try [TS]

00:36:36   to follow the path that seem like [TS]

00:36:37   they're more promising than the paths [TS]

00:36:38   that are less promising and yeah I think [TS]

00:36:40   that that is the big difference like the [TS]

00:36:42   difference between someone who tries [TS]

00:36:44   anything at all and doesn't try anything [TS]

00:36:46   is it's just like infinite like so you [TS]

00:36:49   just just give it a shot it's good [TS]

00:36:52   advice but it's such a nice it really is [TS]

00:36:55   yeah like I know how it I know how it [TS]

00:36:57   feels to hear that from people it's like [TS]

00:36:59   the same one as when someone says how do [TS]

00:37:00   I grow my youtube channel or podcast and [TS]

00:37:03   the answer is keep making great things [TS]

00:37:05   yeah right it is good advice but the [TS]

00:37:09   worst advice yeah it or or it's like [TS]

00:37:11   Nike telling you that with regards to [TS]

00:37:14   exercise just do it I am like go fuck [TS]

00:37:18   yourself Nike oh yeah like I know I know [TS]

00:37:22   how the feels right but that is at the [TS]

00:37:25   same time as like well I guess they're [TS]

00:37:26   not wrong about like you know going for [TS]

00:37:28   a run I guess I just have to do it right [TS]

00:37:30   but like no one don't want to hear for [TS]

00:37:32   me right like I've got it yeah exactly [TS]

00:37:33   yeah it doesn't help that that's still [TS]

00:37:35   telling you to just do it yeah and and [TS]

00:37:37   and it is it is strange to be in the [TS]

00:37:40   situation where I remember being on the [TS]

00:37:43   other side [TS]

00:37:44   that like I remember being the student [TS]

00:37:45   and hearing other people say this kind [TS]

00:37:48   of thing and so then it's weird being on [TS]

00:37:50   the opposite side be like no but for [TS]

00:37:52   realsies yeah like you really just you [TS]

00:37:55   really just have to register YouTube [TS]

00:37:56   account and just try but but that is the [TS]

00:38:00   truth like I still have like really [TS]

00:38:02   strong feelings like emotional feelings [TS]

00:38:05   of memories too like when I was trying [TS]

00:38:07   to make something of myself and I would [TS]

00:38:10   see people like overtake me mm-hmm [TS]

00:38:12   and it was like why did I get to you [TS]

00:38:15   know and you know we're at the point [TS]

00:38:18   where I feel like I was good enough and [TS]

00:38:19   I felt like people with equal skill to [TS]

00:38:21   me were having more success and and it [TS]

00:38:24   was I remember feeling like why is this [TS]

00:38:27   happening you know I remember all that [TS]

00:38:29   stuff there's like a conversation that [TS]

00:38:31   goes around all the time about like how [TS]

00:38:33   much of success is the result of like [TS]

00:38:35   hard work and how much of it is luck [TS]

00:38:36   right and this is like conversation that [TS]

00:38:39   happens all the time and you know people [TS]

00:38:42   say like oh it's it's it's all luck [TS]

00:38:44   right or it's all hard work it's [TS]

00:38:47   obviously some combination of the two [TS]

00:38:49   yeah and I think you can drive yourself [TS]

00:38:52   crazy because you can see situations [TS]

00:38:55   like like what you're just describing [TS]

00:38:57   there where you Mike are trying to get [TS]

00:39:00   started and you can see people who you [TS]

00:39:03   think have the same level of skill as [TS]

00:39:05   you surpassing you and at a certain [TS]

00:39:09   level like yeah how successful someone [TS]

00:39:11   is does largely come down to a question [TS]

00:39:14   of luck like it definitely does but [TS]

00:39:19   regardless of that you have to work to [TS]

00:39:23   put yourself into a position where you [TS]

00:39:25   can be exposed to lucky situations yep [TS]

00:39:28   right and so when someone says like oh [TS]

00:39:30   it's all it's all just luck right if [TS]

00:39:33   people do well in the world or not it's [TS]

00:39:35   like well nobody gets lucky by sitting [TS]

00:39:37   on a couch all day doing nothing all [TS]

00:39:39   right like that happened to nobody even [TS]

00:39:42   the people you suspect may have done [TS]

00:39:44   very little to get their successes like [TS]

00:39:46   they've done more than you think and so [TS]

00:39:49   that's why the you have to just make a [TS]

00:39:52   youtube channel or you have to just [TS]

00:39:53   start with the podcast or you have to [TS]

00:39:54   just start your project on the side [TS]

00:39:56   whatever it is [TS]

00:39:57   that that's why that is the most [TS]

00:39:59   important thing because it puts you in a [TS]

00:40:02   position to potentially be lucky and and [TS]

00:40:05   that's the big difference like that that [TS]

00:40:07   is what can make all of the difference [TS]

00:40:09   yeah and even if luck is what gets you [TS]

00:40:11   there it's hard work that keeps you [TS]

00:40:13   there right like you can be lucky I can [TS]

00:40:16   it kind of goes around right like hard [TS]

00:40:18   work ish to the place that you need to [TS]

00:40:19   be to be lucky but then you can't ride [TS]

00:40:21   the luck then in some ways have to work [TS]

00:40:23   harder because you're in a place now [TS]

00:40:26   yeah you have to do maintenance on it as [TS]

00:40:27   well like it's a it's a little feedback [TS]

00:40:29   cycle but I I get I get bothered by it [TS]

00:40:32   sometimes because when I see people say [TS]

00:40:33   like Oh success is entirely dependent on [TS]

00:40:36   luck and say well that sounds like a [TS]

00:40:38   great excuse to do nothing is what that [TS]

00:40:40   sounds like right like that's kind of [TS]

00:40:42   that's kind of what you're telling [TS]

00:40:43   yourself like oh if I sit here and never [TS]

00:40:45   start any side projects [TS]

00:40:46   maybe I'll just be lucky like Steve Jobs [TS]

00:40:49   like I think it's gonna happen right [TS]

00:40:51   that the way this works was be lucky I [TS]

00:40:54   don't know yeah he was para doesn't [TS]

00:40:57   thrown in with some brief thoughts on [TS]

00:40:59   how to cortex has changed their life [TS]

00:41:01   I found the show in the late summer in [TS]

00:41:02   2015 when I was drowning work because [TS]

00:41:04   one fifth of our department was out on [TS]

00:41:06   maternity leave and I was picking up a [TS]

00:41:08   lot of the slack it was too much and I [TS]

00:41:09   was too unorganized and into compound [TS]

00:41:11   matters some RSI problems were occurring [TS]

00:41:13   I think that I'd already jumped to a Mac [TS]

00:41:15   and I was certainly on an iPhone at this [TS]

00:41:17   point but I wasn't all-in on Apple and I [TS]

00:41:19   wasn't really thinking about workflow [TS]

00:41:20   and productivity in the terms the grain [TS]

00:41:22   might presented it I then bought my [TS]

00:41:24   first iPad bought another iPhone bullpen [TS]

00:41:26   tablet Mac's at home as well as work [TS]

00:41:28   much more careful and thoughtful use of [TS]

00:41:30   email calendaring rules iOS notes tasks [TS]

00:41:32   list of under lists workflow the whole [TS]

00:41:35   nine yards cortex helped me get [TS]

00:41:37   organized during a difficult time and [TS]

00:41:39   sent habits that served me well ever [TS]

00:41:40   since and made the transition to a new [TS]

00:41:42   job much easier well congratulations [TS]

00:41:45   guess it's someone who maybe used some [TS]

00:41:47   of our email knowledge did they mention [TS]

00:41:49   email in there I don't even think they [TS]

00:41:51   did like thoughtful years of email okay [TS]

00:41:54   all right there you go [TS]

00:41:55   you have something to hang your head on [TS]

00:41:57   this does remind me about RSI stuff the [TS]

00:42:00   Wacom tablet has become so indispensable [TS]

00:42:04   for me over time there we go [TS]

00:42:08   yeah I mean I couldn't imagine using a [TS]

00:42:10   desktop computer [TS]

00:42:11   No yeah see that's it's one of those [TS]

00:42:14   things like once you start using it as [TS]

00:42:16   as your main input device you feel like [TS]

00:42:19   how do I ever use a computer before this [TS]

00:42:20   yeah it really is awesome I recommend [TS]

00:42:23   people try out and remember set the [TS]

00:42:26   settings to pen mode it's very important [TS]

00:42:28   that you do that the one-to-one mapping [TS]

00:42:29   of the screen to the tablet is very [TS]

00:42:31   important you're not gonna like it at [TS]

00:42:33   first but trust us is your way to go the [TS]

00:42:35   only way to go [TS]

00:42:36   I do continue to really like the combo [TS]

00:42:39   of the Wacom and the Magic Trackpad [TS]

00:42:42   mm-hm like that really works for me so I [TS]

00:42:44   kind of operate a Mac with two hands [TS]

00:42:47   you've got to make a video of that for [TS]

00:42:48   your vlog one day so you can actually [TS]

00:42:50   just show people what you're talking [TS]

00:42:51   about yeah is this is this reminds me of [TS]

00:42:54   when people asked me to make like a [TS]

00:42:57   video about making a show like recording [TS]

00:42:59   like everything that goes into making a [TS]

00:43:01   podcast mm-hmm and I'm like I don't [TS]

00:43:03   think you know how boring that would be [TS]

00:43:04   to watch [TS]

00:43:06   that falls squarely in that that pocket [TS]

00:43:09   I think no but Mike you're you're a [TS]

00:43:10   vlogger now you have to use use tricks [TS]

00:43:13   like you have some exciting music you do [TS]

00:43:15   a bunch of rapid cuts fireworks yeah and [TS]

00:43:17   you make assembling a podcast look like [TS]

00:43:19   it's an exciting event as opposed to [TS]

00:43:21   just hours of silence I guess that's the [TS]

00:43:24   challenge right how can I do that how [TS]

00:43:26   can I make it look like my work is [TS]

00:43:28   really interesting every moment yeah [TS]

00:43:30   yeah that's what that's what you're [TS]

00:43:31   doing you're painting a picture of your [TS]

00:43:33   life which is not accurate at all I [TS]

00:43:34   don't know when I'm gonna do this but I [TS]

00:43:36   accept the challenge [TS]

00:43:37   I will make it work it'll be like 25 [TS]

00:43:41   seconds long that's how I do it a bunch [TS]

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00:45:46   way to cook Jon created some artwork to [TS]

00:45:51   show off how the show has changed things [TS]

00:45:55   for him and I have included a link in [TS]

00:45:58   our show notes for this week's episode [TS]

00:46:00   so you can go and look at the artwork I [TS]

00:46:02   like this I would say that the one thing [TS]

00:46:05   that's changed for Jon if not before is [TS]

00:46:08   just general look is a lot like me you [TS]

00:46:10   know [TS]

00:46:11   bearded and glasses so Bravo on that one [TS]

00:46:14   to start with you're always trying to [TS]

00:46:16   infect people with your beards some [TS]

00:46:18   things that have changed for Jon [TS]

00:46:19   checklists are in there we can see [TS]

00:46:22   checklists [TS]

00:46:23   reviews to like performing reviews which [TS]

00:46:26   I know is is a big thing for you you [TS]

00:46:28   still unseasonal [TS]

00:46:29   yeah I still like seasonal seasonal okay [TS]

00:46:31   being packed up for a trip in advance [TS]

00:46:33   something that we both believe in quite [TS]

00:46:35   strongly redundant bags on [TS]

00:46:37   that another person listening to Girl [TS]

00:46:39   Talk although their plot they're not [TS]

00:46:41   listening to all day by looks at the [TS]

00:46:43   artwork it's one of the other ones now [TS]

00:46:46   one of the other albums one of the ones [TS]

00:46:47   you don't believe in and using an iPad [TS]

00:46:50   pro and Apple pencil fantastic computer [TS]

00:46:51   oh and I see a one roll of toilet paper [TS]

00:46:54   means I really have zero rolls of toilet [TS]

00:46:56   paper this typed away in the corner over [TS]

00:46:58   there it's a very important life lesson [TS]

00:47:01   very very important [TS]

00:47:03   there are a couple of people that wrote [TS]

00:47:05   in with some of just their favorite [TS]

00:47:06   things that have happened in the show [TS]

00:47:07   mm-hmm Brent reminded me of the story [TS]

00:47:11   when you bought the first iPad pro in [TS]

00:47:13   London oh god that's so good I don't [TS]

00:47:17   like to think about that that's that's [TS]

00:47:18   that's such a good episode I'll put a [TS]

00:47:21   link to that episode [TS]

00:47:22   Jonas is so funny when you were just [TS]

00:47:24   like having the most unsee GP grey [TS]

00:47:29   experience of your life yeah that it was [TS]

00:47:32   great all of the interaction so close to [TS]

00:47:35   meeting Tim Cook I'm glad everybody [TS]

00:47:37   enjoyed that but mostly for me it felt [TS]

00:47:39   like why has God made my life so hard [TS]

00:47:43   just you deserve it now this is a name [TS]

00:47:48   that like if I say this name I'm gonna [TS]

00:47:51   be performing the cardinal sin of [TS]

00:47:53   triggering Amazon echoes mm-hmm so I [TS]

00:47:55   can't say it it's you're too sensitive [TS]

00:47:57   about this Mike all right there we go [TS]

00:47:59   then sorry everyone you just say Alexa [TS]

00:48:02   no no don't do that you can't throw them [TS]

00:48:05   in there no you can no you can't throw [TS]

00:48:07   them in there like that yeah you say [TS]

00:48:08   Alexa subscribe me to see GP gray [TS]

00:48:10   alright and then that's that's how that [TS]

00:48:12   works [TS]

00:48:13   okay Alexis says oh no mine is not gone [TS]

00:48:17   off it was making a flashing light I [TS]

00:48:19   thought it was gonna get me but it [TS]

00:48:20   didn't get me [TS]

00:48:21   they now have backups of everything and [TS]

00:48:23   two is one one is none people still say [TS]

00:48:27   that to me all the time you know see [TS]

00:48:29   it's it's a catchy it's a catchy phrase [TS]

00:48:31   it is it is you created that phrase [TS]

00:48:33   right no that's not that's not right [TS]

00:48:35   that's not how that works [TS]

00:48:36   no okay the popularizer of the phrase [TS]

00:48:40   right this is I still can't remember [TS]

00:48:43   what the feedback was what was it like [TS]

00:48:45   my impression was it was originally a [TS]

00:48:47   military phrase but maybe am somewhere [TS]

00:48:49   else I think it's a military [TS]

00:48:50   but maybe it's you know like you go back [TS]

00:48:52   to the Pharaoh's tomb in Egypt and [TS]

00:48:53   they're like oh one pyramid is okay but [TS]

00:48:55   two pyramids is better like yet we might [TS]

00:48:57   just have been like a very old phrase [TS]

00:48:59   yeah that that happens like those things [TS]

00:49:01   were like oh Shakespeare wrote an emoji [TS]

00:49:03   right like it ups of things this you [TS]

00:49:05   know like they come back to gay I do [TS]

00:49:07   think about that quite a lot too is one [TS]

00:49:10   one is none that made a big impact [TS]

00:49:12   impact on my life it's important why [TS]

00:49:15   don't we talk about what we have learned [TS]

00:49:16   from the show what did you learn from [TS]

00:49:18   cortex Mike I think one of the biggest [TS]

00:49:20   changes in my life as I alluded to [TS]

00:49:22   earlier is the multi pad lifestyle [TS]

00:49:24   mm-hmm being a person who not only uses [TS]

00:49:26   the iPad primarily but multiple I know [TS]

00:49:30   many people that use the iPad not many [TS]

00:49:33   people understand multi pad I feel like [TS]

00:49:35   we're a persecuted bunch we persecuted [TS]

00:49:37   misunderstood group right that's the [TS]

00:49:40   multi iPad lifestyle people I've kind of [TS]

00:49:43   settled into how I use mine more now hmm [TS]

00:49:46   I tend to use the large iPad pro at home [TS]

00:49:49   and the smaller iPad pro when I'm out of [TS]

00:49:52   the home hmm interesting [TS]

00:49:54   I find the smaller iPad pro is easier to [TS]

00:49:57   travel with right because it's smaller [TS]

00:49:59   and I used a Logitech create keyboard [TS]

00:50:01   case which is a vastly superior keyboard [TS]

00:50:04   case to apples mmm but on the big iPad [TS]

00:50:07   pro it's just too big and heavy like [TS]

00:50:09   it's just not very nice to use so even [TS]

00:50:12   though I keep that large iPad pro at [TS]

00:50:14   home I just don't like the case on the [TS]

00:50:16   big iPad pro it just it it kind of ruins [TS]

00:50:19   it for me a bit to be honest but on the [TS]

00:50:21   smaller one is perfect as backlit keys [TS]

00:50:24   and everything and I really really like [TS]

00:50:26   it for that I just I just think that's [TS]

00:50:27   funny because that's the exact opposite [TS]

00:50:29   of what I do like my smaller iPad is the [TS]

00:50:31   home one and the bigger one is the go [TS]

00:50:33   outside one interesting and I actually [TS]

00:50:35   just had you know again one of these one [TS]

00:50:37   of these days where it feels like oh [TS]

00:50:38   this is this is a really nice use of [TS]

00:50:40   technology where I just I just went out [TS]

00:50:44   intentionally just for the morning and I [TS]

00:50:46   only brought like I didn't bring my [TS]

00:50:47   backpack I didn't bring anything I just [TS]

00:50:49   grabbed the iPad pro and like walk [TS]

00:50:52   through the park and then sat at cafe [TS]

00:50:54   and did some work I ended up just [TS]

00:50:55   spending the whole day out doing work at [TS]

00:50:58   various locations and there's one these [TS]

00:51:00   pecans were just felt really nice so [TS]

00:51:02   like oh I have this clipboard sign [TS]

00:51:04   thing that is a functional [TS]

00:51:06   general-purpose computer and I can I [TS]

00:51:10   feel like I can just grab it and just go [TS]

00:51:12   out and be relatively unencumbered and [TS]

00:51:14   not have to have anything else and it's [TS]

00:51:17   really nice to work that way it really [TS]

00:51:18   is there is one thing that might kind of [TS]

00:51:22   help dictate that my choice here which [TS]

00:51:26   is that my smaller iPad is the one that [TS]

00:51:29   has an LTE connection okay well yeah [TS]

00:51:32   that's going to make a difference so [TS]

00:51:33   that that is another reason why I use [TS]

00:51:35   that one for travel more than than the [TS]

00:51:37   big one you know if we ever get the iPad [TS]

00:51:40   that we want the 10-inch one that kind [TS]

00:51:43   of sits between the middle of them I [TS]

00:51:44   wonder if and how things might change [TS]

00:51:46   for us because you know that's a small [TS]

00:51:48   iPad of many of the benefits of the big [TS]

00:51:50   one such as the rumors but I don't think [TS]

00:51:52   Apple's ever making new product so it's [TS]

00:51:54   not a problem [TS]

00:51:57   time tracking and deciding hourly rates [TS]

00:52:00   has been a big thing for me not so much [TS]

00:52:03   a big thing for all of our listeners but [TS]

00:52:06   I told you a couple of weeks ago that [TS]

00:52:07   whilst I have not done anything as [TS]

00:52:09   scientific as you I have sat down and [TS]

00:52:13   worked out from a basic perspective what [TS]

00:52:15   I own from the work that I do I will buy [TS]

00:52:18   our I'm not gonna lie I feel like this [TS]

00:52:20   is a major accomplishment on my part cuz [TS]

00:52:22   I have been bullying you about this yeah [TS]

00:52:24   since before we started cortex right [TS]

00:52:27   like since probably since the first time [TS]

00:52:29   I met you into like oh you got to do [TS]

00:52:30   this you've got to work out what your [TS]

00:52:31   hourly rate is it informed a couple of [TS]

00:52:34   small changes for me mmm small as in not [TS]

00:52:38   huge things but they've make either [TS]

00:52:40   making a big impact mmm it's just [TS]

00:52:42   getting myself some time back for stuff [TS]

00:52:44   that I was making barely no money for I [TS]

00:52:47   was very interested that like most of my [TS]

00:52:50   recording falls have been arranged like [TS]

00:52:51   all of the shows that I do who fall [TS]

00:52:53   within a range which I'm happy with I [TS]

00:52:55   didn't really have many really big [TS]

00:52:58   outliers but I plan to revisit this more [TS]

00:53:03   scientifically at some point in the [TS]

00:53:05   future but I just wanted to sit down one [TS]

00:53:07   day I had some spare time and just like [TS]

00:53:09   pull up a couple of episodes below a pen [TS]

00:53:11   and paper and just just scribble some [TS]

00:53:13   numbers down and I was pleased by what I [TS]

00:53:16   found honestly [TS]

00:53:17   one of the reasons that I've avoided [TS]

00:53:18   doing this as I thought it was going to [TS]

00:53:20   expose some horrific truths yeah you [TS]

00:53:23   were expecting to be made very sad yeah [TS]

00:53:26   but it turns out that it's it's not as [TS]

00:53:28   bad as I thought it was going to be [TS]

00:53:29   maybe if I do some real scientific [TS]

00:53:32   tracking I will learn something [TS]

00:53:35   different [TS]

00:53:35   but just my back of the envelope math [TS]

00:53:38   was good yeah but I thought that's all [TS]

00:53:40   anybody needs right it's just just a [TS]

00:53:42   back-of-the-envelope calculation just [TS]

00:53:45   just to give you some vague boundary to [TS]

00:53:48   think about I know I get I think [TS]

00:53:50   everybody imagines that I'm I'm like [TS]

00:53:52   calculating this down to the second into [TS]

00:53:54   the penny but it's like you don't need [TS]

00:53:55   it that precise right you just need like [TS]

00:53:57   a one significant figure number right [TS]

00:53:59   just to have as a ballpark for when [TS]

00:54:01   you're thinking about making decisions a [TS]

00:54:03   lot of the stuff that I've learned and a [TS]

00:54:05   lot of stuff that I've moved with his [TS]

00:54:07   stuff that we've kind of come to a [TS]

00:54:09   decision together or we've worked on [TS]

00:54:11   something in a way that we're moving [TS]

00:54:12   together towards something you know and [TS]

00:54:15   I think a lot of the iPad stuff is that [TS]

00:54:16   way I think the thing that has made the [TS]

00:54:18   biggest impact on my life is something [TS]

00:54:20   that you have taught me which is that [TS]

00:54:22   work should be able to happen without [TS]

00:54:23   you and this has made the single biggest [TS]

00:54:25   impact on my life over the last two [TS]

00:54:28   years and that comes in sometimes in the [TS]

00:54:31   sense of automation which is fine and [TS]

00:54:33   that's that's great but the biggest one [TS]

00:54:35   is hiring someone and having somebody [TS]

00:54:38   who helps you having an assistant [TS]

00:54:39   it hasn't been very long that I've had [TS]

00:54:42   an assistant it's maybe a couple of [TS]

00:54:44   months if that but the change this is [TS]

00:54:46   made on my life I cannot even begin to [TS]

00:54:48   describe to you you don't you don't have [TS]

00:54:53   to describe because I understand like I [TS]

00:54:54   completely understand its massive it's [TS]

00:54:58   just massive the amount of hours that [TS]

00:55:01   I'm saving they're not like 50 hours a [TS]

00:55:05   week right I'm saving a handful of hours [TS]

00:55:07   at the moment and it's increasing over [TS]

00:55:09   time as we're learning which and what [TS]

00:55:13   things will be given to my assistant [TS]

00:55:15   mm-hmm but it's just what it's doing for [TS]

00:55:17   my general mental state mmm is fantastic [TS]

00:55:22   it's so good I'm so happy to hear this [TS]

00:55:25   and I also just want to take this moment [TS]

00:55:28   to to stress that this is this is [TS]

00:55:29   connect [TS]

00:55:30   did to the previous thing about having [TS]

00:55:32   an ID like a ballpark idea about what [TS]

00:55:34   your time is worth per hour [TS]

00:55:35   because this is like having someone to [TS]

00:55:40   help you with anything you don't have to [TS]

00:55:43   be running like a gigantic youtube [TS]

00:55:45   channel or a podcasting empire in order [TS]

00:55:48   to be able to do this like if you just [TS]

00:55:50   know what your time is worth the only [TS]

00:55:53   question then becomes like are there [TS]

00:55:54   people who can help you with things for [TS]

00:55:56   less than that many dollars per hour and [TS]

00:55:59   if the answer is yes then you might want [TS]

00:56:01   to consider this and I think I think [TS]

00:56:04   I've told you I don't know if I've [TS]

00:56:06   actually told you this or not but like I [TS]

00:56:08   when I was a teacher I came very very [TS]

00:56:12   close to shipping my students homework [TS]

00:56:17   to India to have it marked did have it [TS]

00:56:19   shipped back no you not told me this [TS]

00:56:22   yeah okay so I like I came very very [TS]

00:56:24   close to doing it in the end I decided [TS]

00:56:26   not to not because it wasn't a brilliant [TS]

00:56:29   idea and and my ROI calculation said [TS]

00:56:33   that this totally made sense in terms of [TS]

00:56:34   like how much would it cost me how long [TS]

00:56:37   could it take to get it overnighted to [TS]

00:56:38   India like to have it returned right and [TS]

00:56:40   like I was I was trying to think about [TS]

00:56:42   all of this these kind of things like [TS]

00:56:44   how to make this work I was like I had I [TS]

00:56:45   had it all like ready to go but then I [TS]

00:56:48   but then I realized like I will be fired [TS]

00:56:50   immediately like if anybody finds out [TS]

00:56:52   that I have done this right this is [TS]

00:56:53   you'd never be able to get a job again [TS]

00:56:55   and teaching you'd be done yeah that was [TS]

00:56:57   the reason I was like you know what this [TS]

00:56:59   is too far it's like I have lots of [TS]

00:57:01   little tricks as a teacher that I'm [TS]

00:57:02   using to save time but this but this is [TS]

00:57:05   one where it's like there's there's a [TS]

00:57:07   downside which is essentially like an [TS]

00:57:09   insta-kill downside and that was thing [TS]

00:57:11   like man if sucked like if some truck in [TS]

00:57:13   India turns over and all the homework is [TS]

00:57:16   lost like I'm like right now I'm in real [TS]

00:57:18   trouble so I didn't actually do it but [TS]

00:57:20   it didn't change the fact that like when [TS]

00:57:23   I was a teacher I did have some small [TS]

00:57:27   stuff that I was I was outsourcing right [TS]

00:57:30   through overseas outsourcing companies [TS]

00:57:32   like to just have people help me with [TS]

00:57:34   stuff all right and it was like it's [TS]

00:57:35   super cheap and it get worked in my [TS]

00:57:38   favor and so like this is this is not [TS]

00:57:40   just like you're running a successful [TS]

00:57:42   podcast and [TS]

00:57:44   this is what this is why like I think [TS]

00:57:46   it's really important to know how much [TS]

00:57:49   is your time worth so that you can think [TS]

00:57:51   about having somebody help you or even [TS]

00:57:54   just like this is how this is how [TS]

00:57:55   specialization in the economy works like [TS]

00:57:58   is there just a service that can be [TS]

00:58:00   provided that will take less time to do [TS]

00:58:02   this then you would take to do it like [TS]

00:58:04   maybe that's worth doing it's just it's [TS]

00:58:06   like it's such an important way to think [TS]

00:58:07   about stuff but like III do have to [TS]

00:58:10   agree with you Mike like it when when [TS]

00:58:12   you start doing this again it is just [TS]

00:58:15   like the hiring thing you know we see [TS]

00:58:16   like oh you always hire too late if [TS]

00:58:19   you're if you're a business I think it's [TS]

00:58:22   a similar thing of like getting someone [TS]

00:58:24   to help you everybody does this too late [TS]

00:58:26   and when you do it it makes such a such [TS]

00:58:29   an enormous cognitive difference even if [TS]

00:58:34   it isn't saving you huge numbers of [TS]

00:58:36   hours I just know that there are things [TS]

00:58:39   that I don't really enjoy doing somebody [TS]

00:58:43   else might Lulu and that's the [TS]

00:58:45   experience that I've had so far and it's [TS]

00:58:48   wonderful and the reason that I don't [TS]

00:58:52   enjoy some of these things as I've done [TS]

00:58:54   them for nearly three years every week [TS]

00:58:56   and they were fun initially but after a [TS]

00:58:59   while the faun wears offs on these tasks [TS]

00:59:02   and now I don't need to do it anymore [TS]

00:59:04   or like there were things that I was [TS]

00:59:05   doing but kids nobody else would or [TS]

00:59:08   could but then not my skill set and it's [TS]

00:59:12   somebody else's skill set yeah and [TS]

00:59:14   there's also a way in which sometimes [TS]

00:59:17   it's it's easier for somebody else to do [TS]

00:59:19   a thing because they don't have like an [TS]

00:59:21   emotional baggage attached to whatever [TS]

00:59:22   the task is again and this this is also [TS]

00:59:25   an interesting phenomenon of trying to [TS]

00:59:26   get people to help you is is you realize [TS]

00:59:28   like oh for this other person this task [TS]

00:59:30   is way easier and way faster to do than [TS]

00:59:32   if it is for me to do because for them [TS]

00:59:34   it's just a task but for me it's [TS]

00:59:35   something that's like that comes with [TS]

00:59:37   emotional baggage oh so yeah like or [TS]

00:59:40   I've been doing this for so long or like [TS]

00:59:42   oh this is a thing that I just don't [TS]

00:59:43   want to think about and for the other [TS]

00:59:44   person like it has none of those [TS]

00:59:46   connotations yeah a lot of this stuff [TS]

00:59:47   gets done faster because I was putting [TS]

00:59:49   it off yeah yeah that has been my [TS]

00:59:52   experience is there's a whole category [TS]

00:59:55   of things [TS]

00:59:56   that it's not like I couldn't do them [TS]

00:59:59   but if I [TS]

00:59:59   but if I [TS]

01:00:00   had to be the person who would do it I [TS]

01:00:01   just know they would never happen and [TS]

01:00:02   and so that makes a huge difference I've [TS]

01:00:05   learned that they will never be a [TS]

01:00:07   perfect email app no Mike you gotta hold [TS]

01:00:10   out hope now right [TS]

01:00:12   I've given up no I still have home I [TS]

01:00:15   still given up I've given up gray there [TS]

01:00:17   will never be a perfect email app [TS]

01:00:19   because any email app that seems like [TS]

01:00:21   it's gonna be amazing [TS]

01:00:22   even nobody wants to buy it or somebody [TS]

01:00:24   buys in shuts it down but gets it right [TS]

01:00:27   there's two outcomes get it gets bought [TS]

01:00:29   or it doesn't get bought and both of [TS]

01:00:31   them end in misery yeah [TS]

01:00:33   there's no good there's just no good [TS]

01:00:35   solution for email and the one that I've [TS]

01:00:39   settled on is fine but every now and [TS]

01:00:41   then I send an email and the app crashes [TS]

01:00:43   and I don't know it's crashed and emails [TS]

01:00:46   never sent you know yeah so like I now [TS]

01:00:49   have a new habit of checking their [TS]

01:00:51   emails of sin which it is so annoying to [TS]

01:00:53   have to do that but this app does like [TS]

01:00:56   90 percent of the other things I needed [TS]

01:00:58   to do but like the ten percent that it [TS]

01:01:00   doesn't do what does badly it does [TS]

01:01:02   really badly so there's never gonna be a [TS]

01:01:04   perfect email app they just want they [TS]

01:01:07   and I've come to I'm just come to accept [TS]

01:01:10   it I'm not upset about it anymore I'm [TS]

01:01:11   not angry I'm in the acceptance stage [TS]

01:01:13   I'm still gonna hold out hope but it [TS]

01:01:16   might be a rational hope I've learned [TS]

01:01:18   that making YouTube videos is [TS]

01:01:19   interesting yeah you're still enjoying [TS]

01:01:21   that I am good my kind of feeling [TS]

01:01:26   towards like how often I make videos and [TS]

01:01:28   why has changed right as kind of the [TS]

01:01:31   initial excitement has worn off like [TS]

01:01:32   I've realized that I would very quickly [TS]

01:01:34   if just started making very very boring [TS]

01:01:36   videos if I kept up with the pace that I [TS]

01:01:38   was keeping up with so like I've kind of [TS]

01:01:40   settled in to to doing them the way that [TS]

01:01:43   I want to when I want to and kind of I [TS]

01:01:45   think I'm trying to do one a month I've [TS]

01:01:47   been a bit late because of my travel but [TS]

01:01:49   I'm currently making like a really big [TS]

01:01:51   travel vlog which might be out kind of [TS]

01:01:53   around the time that this episode goes [TS]

01:01:55   out because I basically been traveling [TS]

01:01:57   for the entire month of April so I'm [TS]

01:01:59   making one big vlog for that and I have [TS]

01:02:01   some ideas for some other videos that I [TS]

01:02:03   want to do that based at home as well as [TS]

01:02:05   travel and stuff but I I'm still feel [TS]

01:02:08   like I'm really playing around with this [TS]

01:02:10   and trying to work out what it is for me [TS]

01:02:11   so kind of not put [TS]

01:02:14   all of my time into thinking of this [TS]

01:02:16   stuff is turn out to be the right thing [TS]

01:02:18   for me honestly oh good [TS]

01:02:20   uh uh you know I enjoy your vlogs yeah I [TS]

01:02:24   like it when they come out it's it's [TS]

01:02:25   interesting to see and I've said it's [TS]

01:02:28   interesting to see them change over time [TS]

01:02:31   and like I also find it just interesting [TS]

01:02:34   it's like oh I you're a person I know [TS]

01:02:37   starting down like this path and seeing [TS]

01:02:41   things change over time whereas in any [TS]

01:02:44   of the other vloggers or YouTube people [TS]

01:02:47   that I watch it feels like they have [TS]

01:02:48   just always existed like they've always [TS]

01:02:49   just been around and so it's interesting [TS]

01:02:51   to see you begin this from the ground up [TS]

01:02:54   yeah I've gotten that time a comment of [TS]

01:02:56   that kind from from a bunch of people on [TS]

01:02:58   YouTube you know just say that they can [TS]

01:03:00   see a progression and usually you don't [TS]

01:03:03   yeah right usually you see someone when [TS]

01:03:05   they're established yeah that's been [TS]

01:03:07   interesting for me and it's also been [TS]

01:03:09   one of the reasons that I'm being a [TS]

01:03:11   little bit more considerate about what [TS]

01:03:13   I'm doing mm-hmm because there are [TS]

01:03:15   people there whilst I'm still trying to [TS]

01:03:17   work out what the hell's going on now [TS]

01:03:20   I've taken a more CGP grey approach to [TS]

01:03:22   my youtube channel then a my curly [TS]

01:03:24   approach to it honestly disappointing [TS]

01:03:27   you know the most the most important [TS]

01:03:28   thing uh-huh with YouTube channels is [TS]

01:03:30   having a regular schedule and it just it [TS]

01:03:32   seems like that's what this game [TS]

01:03:34   streaming right it's everyday no was it [TS]

01:03:36   every day a o'clock or something that's [TS]

01:03:38   just the general thing that's what is [TS]

01:03:39   the work every day don't try to turn [TS]

01:03:42   this around Mike every day a p.m. CGP [TS]

01:03:45   play get your streams on like haven't [TS]

01:03:48   you haven't you read the YouTube guide [TS]

01:03:50   to making great content on YouTube and [TS]

01:03:52   like number one thing is a schedule [TS]

01:03:54   every every every week it's gonna be a [TS]

01:03:57   new Mike early episode you got to train [TS]

01:03:59   the audience that they know to tune in [TS]

01:04:00   at 7 p.m. [TS]

01:04:01   tell you what we'll get on it together [TS]

01:04:03   and we'll or cross-promote right every [TS]

01:04:06   week we'll both be there 7 p.m. Eastern [TS]

01:04:09   Time go to see GP play you'll get your [TS]

01:04:14   streams and you really try quickly and [TS]

01:04:16   get you trying to push the slugs that's [TS]

01:04:18   what people can look out for there might [TS]

01:04:20   never be a stream again I don't know why [TS]

01:04:22   you're trying to push this you bold [TS]

01:04:24   software that's going to finish dreaming [TS]

01:04:25   like I said that tells you nothing tells [TS]

01:04:28   you nothing are why my friend ROI I [TS]

01:04:31   think overall is well one of the things [TS]

01:04:33   that cortex has done for me is to allow [TS]

01:04:35   me to enjoy my work more because I am [TS]

01:04:37   more considerate about new projects and [TS]

01:04:39   more considerate about her way up my [TS]

01:04:41   time [TS]

01:04:41   and I've decided and learned to put [TS]

01:04:44   focus in the things that I like doing [TS]

01:04:45   and optimize my way out with the things [TS]

01:04:48   that I don't know what about you me Mike [TS]

01:04:51   uh-huh [TS]

01:04:53   well come on don't be this well don't [TS]

01:04:57   play like that [TS]

01:04:59   no no no what like so like here's the [TS]

01:05:01   interesting thing I saw this in the show [TS]

01:05:03   notes when I was looking at this a [TS]

01:05:05   couple hours ago tried to get ready for [TS]

01:05:07   the show and I was I was trying to think [TS]

01:05:09   about things I was like okay what have I [TS]

01:05:11   learned from the show and I wrote down [TS]

01:05:13   my clay the first bullet point thing [TS]

01:05:15   that popped into my I was like oh I've [TS]

01:05:16   learned about web api's right which [TS]

01:05:18   without the show I would never I think I [TS]

01:05:20   never would have gone down the kind of [TS]

01:05:22   path to think about that as much and [TS]

01:05:24   recognize this as a kind of important [TS]

01:05:26   programmers tool that that's useful to [TS]

01:05:28   have but then like I was like okay well [TS]

01:05:30   that's one thing but but I feel like [TS]

01:05:33   okay so I can name something in [TS]

01:05:36   particular but in one way I don't think [TS]

01:05:38   that's super interesting because what I [TS]

01:05:42   feel like I have learned is that this [TS]

01:05:45   show is not a Productivity show at all [TS]

01:05:49   uh-oh that's not really what this is [TS]

01:05:51   Mike I think it's the thing that we [TS]

01:05:55   touched upon a few episodes ago this [TS]

01:05:59   idea of like an ongoing conversation [TS]

01:06:04   about working and stuff in our lives [TS]

01:06:08   like shows always have to kind of like [TS]

01:06:12   find what they are and I think that's [TS]

01:06:15   what this show is like in a very funny [TS]

01:06:17   way I was thinking about it earlier [TS]

01:06:19   today and I was realizing like oh this [TS]

01:06:22   show has become what in retrospect seems [TS]

01:06:25   very obvious which is it is an extension [TS]

01:06:29   of our lunches that we use to meet up [TS]

01:06:32   for yeah in London before we're doing [TS]

01:06:35   the show mm-hmm all right which thinking [TS]

01:06:37   back upon it it's like all right of [TS]

01:06:38   course [TS]

01:06:39   we're doing sort of exactly what we used [TS]

01:06:42   to do except just over lunch but now [TS]

01:06:45   we're doing we're doing it with an [TS]

01:06:48   audience presence and with an audience [TS]

01:06:50   that is interactive in some way giving [TS]

01:06:54   us feedback and one that we're talking [TS]

01:06:55   to it kind of makes sense because it was [TS]

01:06:58   the conversations we were having over [TS]

01:07:00   those lunches which was what made me [TS]

01:07:02   think that it could be interesting for [TS]

01:07:04   us to have a show together right yeah [TS]

01:07:06   that that's that's why that's why you [TS]

01:07:07   start to pursue me and as intensely as [TS]

01:07:10   you did yep to lock me down into this [TS]

01:07:12   contract a long-term deal for a very [TS]

01:07:15   long-term deal but what I think is [TS]

01:07:17   interesting about that is it's like it's [TS]

01:07:19   just going back to what we're saying [TS]

01:07:21   before going back to all of this [TS]

01:07:22   feedback from people about the 50th [TS]

01:07:24   episode that a thing doesn't need to be [TS]

01:07:28   explicitly about productivity in order [TS]

01:07:32   to be helpful it just means like the for [TS]

01:07:35   the listeners and for us is like we're [TS]

01:07:39   coming together and we're sort of [TS]

01:07:41   discussing in general ways our working [TS]

01:07:44   lives sometimes it's in very specific [TS]

01:07:46   details sometimes it's broad overview [TS]

01:07:48   sometimes we're just sort of goofing off [TS]

01:07:50   but it's like vaguely related to work [TS]

01:07:52   but not really but what matters is this [TS]

01:07:57   conversation that loops back upon itself [TS]

01:07:59   and so it's very hard for me to say like [TS]

01:08:04   what have I specifically learned from [TS]

01:08:06   the show I have a hard time coming up [TS]

01:08:08   with exact bullet points but I know [TS]

01:08:11   without any doubt that because of this [TS]

01:08:14   show I have been much more mindful of my [TS]

01:08:18   work in a whole bunch of ways over the [TS]

01:08:20   past two years then I would have been [TS]

01:08:22   without it and I hope that for listeners [TS]

01:08:26   of the show they have that same [TS]

01:08:29   experience that if we're talking about [TS]

01:08:33   time tracking and you find that that is [TS]

01:08:35   totally irrelevant to your life the [TS]

01:08:38   detail of that doesn't matter so much as [TS]

01:08:41   if you're listening to the show on a [TS]

01:08:43   regular basis it is a reminder for for [TS]

01:08:47   you to be mindful of the way that you [TS]

01:08:50   work as well so I feel [TS]

01:08:53   it's it's almost like a metal lesson [TS]

01:08:54   here that the thing doesn't need to be [TS]

01:08:57   about productivity to be in some sense [TS]

01:09:00   productive and and that's that's what [TS]

01:09:03   this is like you and I were kind of [TS]

01:09:06   having lunches together again but with a [TS]

01:09:08   larger group of people that's what this [TS]

01:09:11   show is [TS]

01:09:11   get me little emotional over here don't [TS]

01:09:14   cry Mike I'll try not to okay that'd be [TS]

01:09:17   really embarrassing we'd have to cut [TS]

01:09:19   that happy fiftieth everybody happy 50th [TS]

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01:11:18   before we wrap up today I wanna I want [TS]

01:11:22   to address our poor last episode that [TS]

01:11:25   poor little episode it didn't do nothing [TS]

01:11:28   wrong to be fair that was entirely my [TS]

01:11:31   fault [TS]

01:11:31   yeah well you know these things um we [TS]

01:11:36   spent a lot of time on the last episode [TS]

01:11:38   talking about oh look we were unhappy at [TS]

01:11:41   the rate at which Apple was producing [TS]

01:11:43   new products hmm I think like maybe a [TS]

01:11:47   couple of days after that episode went [TS]

01:11:49   out Apple KITT went on record about the [TS]

01:11:52   fact that they're working on a new Mac [TS]

01:11:53   Pro and and they kind of broke from [TS]

01:11:55   tradition to actually explicitly address [TS]

01:11:57   a product that they had in the works [TS]

01:11:59   so this all came out during the time [TS]

01:12:01   between the episode being recorded and [TS]

01:12:03   being released what this did allow me to [TS]

01:12:06   do was go in and cut out the moments [TS]

01:12:09   where we explicitly said they should [TS]

01:12:10   just tell us they're working on a new [TS]

01:12:11   Mac Pro so I did get to do that at least [TS]

01:12:14   whoo but unfortunately this is one of [TS]

01:12:17   those times where this doesn't happen [TS]

01:12:18   very often for us but where something [TS]

01:12:20   may change in between recording and [TS]

01:12:21   release mmm so it did make me want to [TS]

01:12:24   just address this with you a little bit [TS]

01:12:26   to catch everybody up Apple had a [TS]

01:12:28   journal have a bunch of journalists come [TS]

01:12:30   to them to see them at the offices and [TS]

01:12:33   they went through it through a few [TS]

01:12:34   things and they kind of accepted blame [TS]

01:12:36   as much as they would then leaked that [TS]

01:12:39   the Mac Pro that is currently for sale [TS]

01:12:40   is not good and that they designed the [TS]

01:12:43   way that they designed it was was [TS]

01:12:44   suboptimal to the point where they [TS]

01:12:46   couldn't update it in a way that people [TS]

01:12:48   needed and that they're working on a new [TS]

01:12:50   Mac Pro and they have really powerful [TS]

01:12:52   iMacs coming later this year and we're [TS]

01:12:55   probably going to see this new Mac Pro [TS]

01:12:56   maybe next year they don't really give a [TS]

01:12:58   timeframe on it but basically said not [TS]

01:13:00   this year yeah interesting phrasing yeah [TS]

01:13:04   because it's I mean from everything that [TS]

01:13:06   we've seen and everything that I've [TS]

01:13:08   heard this changed that Apple actually [TS]

01:13:11   working on a new Mac Pro has was very [TS]

01:13:13   recent to them bring in those [TS]

01:13:14   journalists and and they basically were [TS]

01:13:17   like right now we decided to do this we [TS]

01:13:19   need to curb [TS]

01:13:20   current rhetoric that when we don't care [TS]

01:13:22   about professional users anymore hmm [TS]

01:13:25   so I wonder you were definitely harsher [TS]

01:13:27   than me um in your feelings about this [TS]

01:13:31   like I I kind of said on the episode I [TS]

01:13:33   just want to see some kind of torch from [TS]

01:13:35   them and I'll believe that they actually [TS]

01:13:37   do care mmm and you were basically like [TS]

01:13:40   no I need multiple years of proof so I [TS]

01:13:42   wonder if this has changed your feelings [TS]

01:13:44   at all about the way the evil Apple is [TS]

01:13:46   treating you as a professional user of [TS]

01:13:48   its products well on the one hand I [TS]

01:13:51   think this is it is really funny because [TS]

01:13:54   this is the kind of thing that I never [TS]

01:13:55   really thought Apple would ever do well [TS]

01:13:57   no this this completely bucks [TS]

01:14:00   all trends you know and what we I think [TS]

01:14:03   I brought this up on the last episode [TS]

01:14:04   that Apple is a a company of traditions [TS]

01:14:08   and schedules and then not anymore [TS]

01:14:10   and so they're breaking a lot of what we [TS]

01:14:13   know them to be and this is one another [TS]

01:14:15   example of that where Apple never talks [TS]

01:14:18   about future products and you know now [TS]

01:14:20   they have to the point like so early [TS]

01:14:23   they don't even have anything to show if [TS]

01:14:24   they ever talk about a future product [TS]

01:14:26   it's ready to show you but it's just not [TS]

01:14:29   shipping yet this is like we haven't [TS]

01:14:31   even got design for this thing but we [TS]

01:14:33   can tell you we're doing it yeah yeah [TS]

01:14:35   it's so early that the impression that I [TS]

01:14:37   get is it's like we actually just have a [TS]

01:14:39   whiteboard somewhere we decided that [TS]

01:14:41   this was a thing that we were going to [TS]

01:14:42   do there's a Trello board we know that [TS]

01:14:44   much yeah outside of that we have no mic [TS]

01:14:46   but that's what it feels like yeah [TS]

01:14:50   it's like has a physical thing happened [TS]

01:14:53   anywhere in the world I suspect maybe [TS]

01:14:55   not right but um but it's also a thing [TS]

01:14:58   that in in retrospect I was thinking [TS]

01:15:01   about is I think it's a really sensible [TS]

01:15:03   decision because they're talking about a [TS]

01:15:05   future product for such a relatively [TS]

01:15:08   small portion of their overall user base [TS]

01:15:12   yeah that what does it matter right it [TS]

01:15:14   doesn't because those people were buying [TS]

01:15:16   it no matter what [TS]

01:15:17   right the exact reason Apple keeps their [TS]

01:15:19   secrecy is so they can have their big [TS]

01:15:21   reveals of their products where the [TS]

01:15:22   whole message [TS]

01:15:23   controlled yeah but with something like [TS]

01:15:25   this the market is so small and that [TS]

01:15:27   markets buying it no matter what it is [TS]

01:15:29   because they need it yeah and and so you [TS]

01:15:32   like it [TS]

01:15:33   is interesting to think about like oh it [TS]

01:15:34   never occurred to me but yeah for [TS]

01:15:36   particularly the MacPro subsection of [TS]

01:15:39   the market like why not just give them a [TS]

01:15:41   release schedule all right why not just [TS]

01:15:43   just say here's our here's our whole [TS]

01:15:45   roadmap for this project and it hurts [TS]

01:15:48   them not at all really like there's [TS]

01:15:51   there's no way it's going to be some big [TS]

01:15:53   seller if they have an amazing surprise [TS]

01:15:54   like this doesn't affect anything [TS]

01:15:57   whereas for the iPhone and the iPad you [TS]

01:16:01   can see that it makes sense that Apple [TS]

01:16:02   wants to have some some sort of drama [TS]

01:16:05   around the release events so I would say [TS]

01:16:09   like I felt like oh this is good I would [TS]

01:16:12   hope that maybe it's not just a one-time [TS]

01:16:14   thing like oh god we effed up so bad [TS]

01:16:16   this time we really have to go on record [TS]

01:16:18   like yeah maybe this is a thing that you [TS]

01:16:20   guys can just do with this narrow [TS]

01:16:22   section of the proline and and save [TS]

01:16:24   yourself a whole lot of grumbling from [TS]

01:16:27   the peanut gallery yeah and and so I [TS]

01:16:29   think that's that's a totally fine thing [TS]

01:16:30   all that said oh it doesn't you have not [TS]

01:16:36   pleased me right yeah I am I'm still I'm [TS]

01:16:39   still sitting here upon my throne of [TS]

01:16:41   judgment unmoved because this is still [TS]

01:16:46   just words you know reading over the [TS]

01:16:49   transcript it feels a bit like we [TS]

01:16:51   decided last Tuesday we got to change [TS]

01:16:53   direction and I still stand by [TS]

01:16:57   everything I said in the last episode [TS]

01:16:58   which is you know even if Apple releases [TS]

01:17:05   everything I could possibly hope for in [TS]

01:17:08   my heart of hearts this year I'm still [TS]

01:17:12   not going to feel good about it until I [TS]

01:17:14   see that there are regular updates you [TS]

01:17:18   know and it's really funny actually you [TS]

01:17:19   know just talking about when when we [TS]

01:17:21   started this show was just before iOS 9 [TS]

01:17:23   which was the operating system that [TS]

01:17:26   really kicked off everything being Pro [TS]

01:17:28   it's like oh wait a minute like when I [TS]

01:17:32   try to think like oh how long have I [TS]

01:17:33   been doing this show the answer is feels [TS]

01:17:35   like I've been doing it forever it's [TS]

01:17:37   like oh yes and that's how long I've [TS]

01:17:38   been using the terrible multitasker [TS]

01:17:41   switcher on iOS as well right it's for [TS]

01:17:43   the entire length of this show I feel [TS]

01:17:46   like an implicit [TS]

01:17:47   part of software is the promise of [TS]

01:17:52   iteration and and like and that's what I [TS]

01:17:56   want to see and that's what will make me [TS]

01:17:58   feel better because even if I get an [TS]

01:18:02   amazing gigantic iPad pro and the new [TS]

01:18:06   operating system has a dark mode and has [TS]

01:18:08   everything I could possibly want and you [TS]

01:18:10   can do multi multi tasking of [TS]

01:18:12   multitasking inside of your multitasking [TS]

01:18:15   even if it has all of that I'm going to [TS]

01:18:18   be sitting there with the feeling of [TS]

01:18:19   like okay but do I have to expect that [TS]

01:18:24   the way it works today is the way I'm [TS]

01:18:26   going to have to use it for the next two [TS]

01:18:28   years like that that's the thing that I [TS]

01:18:31   want to feel like has has changed right [TS]

01:18:35   and and that's also why not to get into [TS]

01:18:38   the whole thing again but just briefly [TS]

01:18:40   like that's also why the workflow [TS]

01:18:42   acquisition concerns me because now we [TS]

01:18:44   also know that workflow there's benefits [TS]

01:18:47   like officially they're not going to [TS]

01:18:48   update it anymore and so whatever is [TS]

01:18:50   going to happen there is going to be now [TS]

01:18:53   involved in Apple's overall production [TS]

01:18:55   cycle so I feel like I won't feel [TS]

01:18:59   perfectly calm about this until I can [TS]

01:19:03   see that we're not going to go through [TS]

01:19:04   two-year gaps where nothing changes that [TS]

01:19:09   and but then I'll feel better then I'll [TS]

01:19:11   feel better I still have a lot of the [TS]

01:19:13   same feelings from last time and just [TS]

01:19:14   like my biggest point and it's just that [TS]

01:19:17   things are different and we need to see [TS]

01:19:19   how they shake out the schedules have [TS]

01:19:21   will change everything's different [TS]

01:19:22   I do feel better that they've gone on [TS]

01:19:24   record to say that they're renewing [TS]

01:19:26   their commitment to the professional [TS]

01:19:27   user that just makes me feel better [TS]

01:19:29   mmm and it makes me feel better because [TS]

01:19:32   it's such a none Apple thing to do that [TS]

01:19:34   it means something to them so much that [TS]

01:19:36   they decided to do it now rather than [TS]

01:19:38   wait until WWDC in June when it's the [TS]

01:19:40   exact same audience that are willing to [TS]

01:19:42   listen that they thought that it was [TS]

01:19:43   important enough to get in front of it [TS]

01:19:45   and to talk about it now so I feel [TS]

01:19:47   better from there [TS]

01:19:48   but we've we have a rehashed a little [TS]

01:19:53   bit what we were talking about last time [TS]

01:19:54   we [TS]

01:19:55   brought many people to to question why [TS]

01:19:59   we are not switching and one thing that [TS]

01:20:02   was mentioned a lot because we mentioned [TS]

01:20:04   switching costs and I want to take a [TS]

01:20:07   moment to establish what we consider [TS]

01:20:09   switching costs to be switching costs [TS]

01:20:12   are not financial costs we're not [TS]

01:20:15   talking about the price of buying an [TS]

01:20:17   Android tablet and a Windows PC yeah [TS]

01:20:20   yeah more than anything [TS]

01:20:23   yeah we really need to emphasize it has [TS]

01:20:26   the word cost in it but we're not [TS]

01:20:28   talking about dollars here no and what [TS]

01:20:32   we're talking about is upheaval is the [TS]

01:20:36   effect it will have on time the effect [TS]

01:20:39   that it will have on frustration me and [TS]

01:20:42   gray really know how to use our Mac's [TS]

01:20:45   like we really know how to use those we [TS]

01:20:48   know how to use Final Cut we know how to [TS]

01:20:51   use logic we know everything about all [TS]

01:20:53   of the little utilities that we have [TS]

01:20:55   little cord I don't really know anything [TS]

01:20:58   about the programs that I would need to [TS]

01:21:00   use on Windows mm-hm [TS]

01:21:02   and honestly I don't want to take two [TS]

01:21:05   weeks out of my business to relearn [TS]

01:21:07   everything mm-hmm that's the big thing [TS]

01:21:09   this is what we're talking about here [TS]

01:21:10   it's the idea of going here is a new [TS]

01:21:13   thing you haven't used this ever at all [TS]

01:21:17   or in like 10 years [TS]

01:21:18   learn it mm-hmm like I don't even really [TS]

01:21:21   understand how the file structure of [TS]

01:21:24   Windows works anymore you know like [TS]

01:21:28   where things get saved and stuff like [TS]

01:21:30   that because on the Mac a bunch of that [TS]

01:21:32   stuff just happens automatically now [TS]

01:21:33   mm-hmm [TS]

01:21:34   right like your files just get saved for [TS]

01:21:36   you and you know there's like it's all [TS]

01:21:38   back topic I know how well it works I'm [TS]

01:21:40   sure that there are things like this for [TS]

01:21:43   Windows I'm sure that there are things [TS]

01:21:44   like this for Android but the thing is [TS]

01:21:46   we don't know them so if I was to say [TS]

01:21:50   right I'm switching to Windows I can't [TS]

01:21:52   produce shows the next day mm-hmm like [TS]

01:21:55   my business has to shut down why I [TS]

01:21:57   relearn all of this stuff or I can try [TS]

01:22:00   and do them together at the same time [TS]

01:22:02   which is still like there's stuff I [TS]

01:22:04   can't do if I'm trying to learn it so [TS]

01:22:07   the switching costs it's just like what [TS]

01:22:09   it would [TS]

01:22:09   take for us to have to start again [TS]

01:22:12   mm-hmm and all of the things that could [TS]

01:22:14   fall out of that like if I'm trying to [TS]

01:22:17   learn a new piece of software I'm gonna [TS]

01:22:19   screw up more and screwing up more has [TS]

01:22:23   many costs to it like if I'm putting out [TS]

01:22:26   shows of broken audio in them because [TS]

01:22:28   I've done something stupid of an [TS]

01:22:30   application it's going to upset people [TS]

01:22:31   and it's gonna make people maybe not [TS]

01:22:34   want to listen to the episode it's gonna [TS]

01:22:36   make advertisers unhappy because I might [TS]

01:22:38   screw up something right like there are [TS]

01:22:39   so many things that can fall out of this [TS]

01:22:41   because you would effectively be [TS]

01:22:43   changing our entire pipeline of how our [TS]

01:22:46   production is mm-hmm and that's a big [TS]

01:22:49   potential risk therefore that's the [TS]

01:22:51   switching cost yeah the other thing with [TS]

01:22:54   switching costs that I think is it is [TS]

01:22:57   hard to see until you think about it but [TS]

01:23:01   it is the enormous stock of knowledge [TS]

01:23:04   you have about a system that you don't [TS]

01:23:07   even really realize that you have and so [TS]

01:23:10   like when you've used a platform for 10 [TS]

01:23:14   years you build up a whole whole [TS]

01:23:17   compilation of index cards that are [TS]

01:23:19   filled with little tricks and tips about [TS]

01:23:21   like oh under this particular situation [TS]

01:23:23   this thing will make this work a little [TS]

01:23:25   bit better or like oh I remember this [TS]

01:23:27   problem I know how to solve this like [TS]

01:23:28   just give me two seconds and I'll get [TS]

01:23:29   this done and you just don't realize how [TS]

01:23:32   much of that is built up whereas every [TS]

01:23:35   once in a while I have to help my my [TS]

01:23:37   father with his Windows PC and I am so [TS]

01:23:41   aware like it is not that that a Windows [TS]

01:23:43   is like a worse system but it's just [TS]

01:23:45   like I have no repertoire of knowledge [TS]

01:23:47   of how to help with any with even like [TS]

01:23:50   problems that would be the most trivial [TS]

01:23:52   of problems to solve it's like I have no [TS]

01:23:55   idea where to start [TS]

01:23:56   and when you're talking about computers [TS]

01:23:59   it just it's it's everything right it's [TS]

01:24:02   how you spend so much of your time doing [TS]

01:24:06   everything that you do and then like [TS]

01:24:08   even just as a little example you talk [TS]

01:24:10   about relearning programs it's like oh [TS]

01:24:12   yeah that would take some time to do it [TS]

01:24:14   would take dozens of hours per [TS]

01:24:16   application but then when you are [TS]

01:24:18   invested in ecosystem you also know all [TS]

01:24:21   of these ways [TS]

01:24:23   to help out what you're doing and so [TS]

01:24:25   it's like oh when I'm editing stuff in [TS]

01:24:27   Final Cut like I'm doing some animations [TS]

01:24:30   there are now plenty of times because I [TS]

01:24:33   have enough experience doing podcasts [TS]

01:24:34   that I'll pop the audio out of Final Cut [TS]

01:24:37   bring it into logic do a bunch of edits [TS]

01:24:39   and logic and then put it back into [TS]

01:24:40   Final Cut right I was like okay well now [TS]

01:24:43   here's a case of it's not like oh I just [TS]

01:24:46   need to learn relearn the video editing [TS]

01:24:48   software it's like I also need to [TS]

01:24:49   relearn the audio editing software right [TS]

01:24:52   which multiplies out if I want to do [TS]

01:24:54   videos on a new system how long is it [TS]

01:24:56   going to take and then there are there [TS]

01:24:58   are just so many ways that all of the [TS]

01:25:02   applications that we use connect with [TS]

01:25:04   each other and and it's a thing that you [TS]

01:25:06   build up over time and so when we're [TS]

01:25:09   discussing switching costs I think it's [TS]

01:25:13   very important for people to understand [TS]

01:25:15   we're not even really talking about oh [TS]

01:25:18   it's going to take me a couple dozen [TS]

01:25:20   hours to relearn a professional program [TS]

01:25:22   to the speed that I am at now it's like [TS]

01:25:24   we're talking about literally hundreds [TS]

01:25:27   and hundreds of hours of time that you [TS]

01:25:29   would need to invest to get to the same [TS]

01:25:32   level of proficiency and to have the [TS]

01:25:34   same number of tools available that can [TS]

01:25:37   reproduce everything that you do all day [TS]

01:25:40   long in professional and personal [TS]

01:25:42   capacities is like that's what the [TS]

01:25:45   switching cost is right and that's why [TS]

01:25:47   it is so enormous to move from platform [TS]

01:25:49   to platform one other one for me a lot [TS]

01:25:54   of my business a lot of the shows that I [TS]

01:25:56   make are based around Apple mmm if I [TS]

01:25:58   switch from Apple can I conduct my [TS]

01:26:01   business mm-hmm like if I become an [TS]

01:26:07   Android user the shows where I talk [TS]

01:26:10   about the iPhone a lot that's going to [TS]

01:26:13   get a bit more difficult to do yeah [TS]

01:26:15   that's going to be a big problem for me [TS]

01:26:17   so the reason that we stick with Apple [TS]

01:26:20   even we're frustrated with them is [TS]

01:26:22   because the other option is a nuclear [TS]

01:26:25   one yeah so when we are just frustrated [TS]

01:26:30   the beginning of our frustration is not [TS]

01:26:32   the beginning of the switch right like [TS]

01:26:35   yeah if we just start [TS]

01:26:37   get frustrated which we are it's not the [TS]

01:26:40   time Lulu the frustration must continue [TS]

01:26:43   for a long period of time before we're [TS]

01:26:45   willing to make a change so I understand [TS]

01:26:47   that people listen to us and they find [TS]

01:26:49   it peculiar [TS]

01:26:50   and I and also understand I'm sure many [TS]

01:26:53   people have made that switch but there [TS]

01:26:56   was a reason for them that compelled [TS]

01:26:57   them enough and we're not at that point [TS]

01:26:59   yet we're just now getting to the [TS]

01:27:01   beginning of a frustration so really [TS]

01:27:04   let's see how the next 50 episodes go [TS]

01:27:06   and then we'll work out where we are [TS]

01:27:08   you're going to take some of these [TS]

01:27:10   quotes for episode 100 yep when we're [TS]

01:27:13   both on Windows 12 look how stupid they [TS]

01:27:16   were they said they would never leave [TS]

01:27:17   Apple by the way have you seen my Google [TS]

01:27:22   pixel 12 it's beautiful [TS]

01:27:24   my surface studio 4 is amazing yeah look [TS]

01:27:27   at that the the entire desk is a screen [TS]

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