00:00:11 ◼ ► good it's been a long time it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/11">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► oh hey that's nice thank you you sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/14">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► do I sound like I have a new power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► supply on my computer I can feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► clean power 300 watts yeah huh mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/23">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► I can feel it it's like a like an SVT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► just putting that clean thump thump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/30">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► loved so does that that's a power supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/34">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► inside the computer or do you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► the outboards like a power brick no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► uh it's a classic I had classic symptoms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► of a classic problem it was classic oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► not hard to fix oh that's classic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► it's you know it is a I mentioned this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► in some other places but this is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/53">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► mentioning because I think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/54">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► kind of thing that probably well I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/55">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► Tuesday nights ago I'm just doing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► thing on my computer and I don't do as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► you do and it goes away as the beer goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► away well as though basically some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► import sprite had just disconnected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/74">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► power like pulled the movement out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► the outlet it goes away from I think oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► oh that's not optimal so I'm going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/82">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► I bring it back up I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► through this whole thing but it's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/90">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► it's one of those kinds of problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► that's difficult it's difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► reproduce because the nature of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► problem the evidence is itself in fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► random things so then step two of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► is I start doing the troubleshooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► which is you know it involves a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► like incantations and chicken bones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► then you just wait but there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► a peculiar kind of purgatory to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► nearly certain that the tool that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► using is going to break at any second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► you have a very different view of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/121">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► you use that device when you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► it could go any second oh yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► strip but I mean you've had this part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/128">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► like you wonder if that is the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/129">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► going to go out because my phone battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► but in this case it's even worse because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/133">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► I'm like okay well I no need to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► this running and test this thing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► you know I want to do stuff still I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► the early stages of grieving where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► like I haven't like got my mind right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► you know yeah you haven't gotten your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► that's terrible feeling and so I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/149">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► sitting there way and then it goes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► gotta get fresh set of chicken bones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/153">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► have a used type of delay pedal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/159">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► would just sometimes go into demo mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/165">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► huh like like you're over at the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► and you want to show off what the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► can do yeah yeah the the the the mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► that I'm not even sure why it's built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► into the thing you should just if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► a company like that you should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► build one that's a demo and give it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/188">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► Guitar Center and it can sit and demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► but all of them had built into it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► like sort of cycle through everything it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► does so that I guess you could sit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► guitar Center and just turn on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► feature and and these are strum yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/202">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► then hit here it goes through it saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► but it would go into it just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► randomly and it happened one night we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► were playing with the Decembrists in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/215">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► Decembrists were getting big and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► kind of right when the long winters were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► getting big and it was a it was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► show and it was one of those shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► hadn't expected to sell like buzz had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► accumulated while you yeah yeah yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/233">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► were out you know the early shows on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/236">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► that tour were not very well attended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► and by the middle of the tour the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► were sold out and by the end of the tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/241">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► the shows were getting moved to a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► venue kind of what you always hope for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► and so it's Boston and there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► that it's oversold right there kids kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► of hanging on the walls and halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/252">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► through our set my delay pedal goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► demo mode oh my god and when it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► into demo mode the normal way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/262">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► no longer worked you couldn't just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/267">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► the delay pedals on click the switch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► goes off but when it's in demo mode no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► there is no switch to click off because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► it's cycling through every and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► just has to do its thing it just has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► run its course oh my god and so I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► there through an entire song and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► you know and it's a it's a delay pedal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► right so it's like here's what it can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/289">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► Wow Wow wait while you're trying to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/296">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► rock and roll power chords yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► planned you know stupid or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► uh and it was really it was really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/305">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► it was fun for me that was back at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► time when I had a real sense of humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► about things you so I could use it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► guess and it ah really I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► sitting there thinking to myself if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► could be on the shop floor of line 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/323">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► right now mmm it grabbed the foreman I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► just like ghost of Christmas past this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► used to be equipment that you could save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► your life you'd be hanging from a thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► yeah yeah that's right yeah you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► those things to be tough I've had a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► of pedals over the years well first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► all there's just always the thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/345">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► like it's at least back in my time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/346">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► difficult to know without tasting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► 9-volt like exactly how much juice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► had left yeah okay flat my bolt yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► right all right up here um but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/356">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► know if you were in the middle of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► ragin solo and suddenly the signal gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/362">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► real quiet and then just goes away or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► that's that would be the worst also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► had a lot I think you know you notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► with stomp boxes you get them and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► just use them forever and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► treated terribly and clumped around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► there are a couple that had ace I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► remember in particular it was my wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► an Ibanez it was the boss distortion + [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► feedback pedal that orange pedal that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► use it for lots that is a pretty shitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► sound but I got a bad pedal but it's but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► it was fun to see like what it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/391">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► come up with what feedback to make given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► what you were doing it would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/394">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► had a loose a quarter-inch I want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► on the input jack and sometimes you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► revert to a clean signal we just like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► up I need to reset myself now your cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► ah you know it's frustrating when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/412">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► can't depend on things it is well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► fact right now I'm trying to send some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/422">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► I'm trying to send some texts from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► laptop to people I'm trying to say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► I can't make it to lunch today yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► uh the machine has decided that I can no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/434">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► longer send text because my password has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► changed and my password has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► because sometimes we some time recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► it forced me to change my password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► because of something you know there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► some reason that it needed something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► different they did something to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/457">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► different all right because I I plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► in my my iPad which I hadn't used in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/461">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► while because I wanted to start using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► as a drum machine I thought that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/467">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► good idea so I plugged my iPad in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/468">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► told me that it needed to have a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► operating system I tried to ignore it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/473">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► said that didn't want me to try tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► did I want that's right did I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► sync my iTunes with it I said no it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► or that then it said you know all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► stuff and I finally surrendered it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/489">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► like alright okay fine I'll fine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► I've sworn I will never do this but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► time will be different won't it Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► this time will be different this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► you'll do it'll be logical it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► natural you won't you won't ask me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► upgrade a thing if that upgrade will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► internally you would know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► couldn't handle it and you wouldn't ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► so I'm going to trust you and so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/516">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► on and it gave me some cryptic message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► like there can only be one iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► account would you like them would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/523">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► they know I know I don't hit the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► thing because the the consequences are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► unknown and so that consequences are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► unknown that's precisely right it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► that you know them because the languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► there's it's a huge deal I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► one you probably got in the last couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► years which was something along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/546">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► lines of f you updated iOS it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► something like do you want to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► over to cloud drive or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► that and you go you'd normally personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► of course I want to switch over to cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► drive or whatever the F it's called but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► like this if what it didn't tell you was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► that that was an iOS only feature it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► not available on your Mac and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► that your all your cloud stuff work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► would change fundamentally you might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► be able to get to some of it until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► operating system on your computer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/573">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► updated but that's the but that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/574">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► know what that doesn't fit in a pop up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/577">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► message well and so what happened was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► put this thing on which had uh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/581">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► eight hundred songs on it and it spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/588">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► an hour but churning yeah I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/593">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► and then when it came back up all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► music was gone because it had synced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► an iTunes - it synced to the iTunes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► my computer that had come with a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/609">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► michael franti CD and that u2 album yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► tell me so oh no this is bad all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► on my iPad now is nothing and put a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► iOS on there that that has now turned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► something on the screen it thinks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► it for a while it goes and makes a pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► of coffee and it comes back and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/630">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► decides whether or not it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/631">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► yeah and half of the apps crash the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/636">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► thing now I mean it was like the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► was better the iPad was more useful when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► I was using it as a hot like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► trivet yeah sure he put a put a pan on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► there yeah than it is now that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► have any OS it just makes me want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/652">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► kill but you know I will help you sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/657">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► might be useful it seems like it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► seems like it's done right the music's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► what is the troubleshooting like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► music they just they evaporated it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► right not still that stuff I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► save for after we're done recording but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► there's some good security hygiene you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► should do it sure at your earliest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/679">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► opportunity and that's one thing but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/680">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► you know it depends it might be confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► about if you have more than one Apple ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► this is a very confusing matter this did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► not used to be such a confusing matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► lots of people when they signed up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► Apple stuff at the time it required an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► Apple ID got a new Apple ID that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► be me Mac iCloud it could be Gmail it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► could be whatever you signed up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► it's very confusing and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► don't know that they have more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► Apple ID where the username and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► password match and so if you enter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► the wrong one very confusing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► happen because you're basically asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► it for an entire different set of files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► so was that stuff that you had synced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/719">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► this isn't here's the problem for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► many years I had that that desktop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/734">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► I've used over the years to record our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► program and that was my main computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► and that's the thing that I synced my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► phone to and that I synced my iPad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► yeah then I bought a laptop and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/747">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► arrived with the laptop it we were past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/751">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► the we were past the border into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/756">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► and and so the new laptop was like hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► welcome to computing it says though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► you've never heard of a computer before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/767">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► so would you like me to it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► you're trying to compose a message would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► you like to walk through how that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► miracle of in of the cloud man and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► like yeah I just I got I believe me I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► used computer before thank you let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► just get to where I was you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► they're like oh well you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► keep all your music in the cloud and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► was like I don't think I can I mean over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► the years I've already had this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/792">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► where they're like oh this you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► that you've been listening to for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/796">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► years now you don't have access to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► because at some point in 1999 somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/799">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► gave this to you right and it was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► for a long time but now it's not fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► anymore little groups of eco type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► situation where it's really sounds great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► until you get there and then you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/812">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► oh shit this is not going to work at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► and when of course it does stuff like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► the last few years last two three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/819">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► it started doing stuff like where Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► will for the first time ever incorrectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► guess what your music is and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► metadata is like now this is associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► with some obscure Led Zeppelin live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/830">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► album you like no that's not what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/831">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► consequently you guys stuff because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► the metadata is wrong now there's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/838">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► good chance things will just get lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/839">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► because it's not what it looks like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► looks like garbage now I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► how to get the I mean because on my on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► my desktop I have 50,000 songs or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► know I have like the all the music of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► that I've had over the my whole computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► life I have no idea how to get those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► into the cloud and I don't want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► because every time I log on now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► cloud tells me that I don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► storage so I know I don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► storage for 50,000 songs because all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► have on there is like a copy of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► that I'm writing and uh what like to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/869">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► don't know I didn't even know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► have on there it's nothing to I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► they gave me like five megabytes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► space oh this is a yes that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► huge deal this is a even the nerds are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► like this is the most unconscionable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► hardware thing they had was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/889">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► ridiculous you can't even update the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► and the OS in most cases but yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► the parsimonious amounts of data it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► gotten better but it's still pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► costly for what you get and will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► accommodate even basic stuff yeah all by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► way of saying on my laptop I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► said okay I don't need music on there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► don't know how to get it from my desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► yeah and I just don't care but when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/915">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► synced my phone I finally was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► I gotta sync my phone to my new computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► can't keep sinking it to this computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► well wiped all the music off my phone Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► Jim because it's you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/931">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► because it's not on the new one it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► on the new one yeah and I'm like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► all I want is therefore to be able so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► there to be a box that says would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/939">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► like the iTunes that's on your phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► be the master or the one that's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► computer to be the master right but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► doesn't allow for that and so all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► musics off my phone well then I had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► had it on my iPad which I was using to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► control the Sonos until I just did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► thing I made this mistake again I forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► to never upgrade I forgot to never never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► trust their box always say cancel if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/961">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► it's if you push cancel and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► Yelp if it says would you like to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/965">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► or cancel and you cancel then you then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► you go away you don't get to use it yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► you have to use the app if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► looking at on your phone right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► unless you unless you delete the app oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► I don't even know if I did I had do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► have the app probably that's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► with you - if you get YouTube on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► phone it'll always use that and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► pretty crappy out so I never use Yelp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► because apparently I downloaded the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/990">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► one time I never want to use the app if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► they ask me I just want to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► thing because it's right there I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► it I just want to click on and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► it I don't want an extra step to go look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► at their app so I'm like and watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► boot up and presumably take me to iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► so I'm always like no I don't care I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► don't want to use Yelp I do not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► use it not only do I not want to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► I want to say the word Yelp with a wit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► like spit coming out of the corners of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► my mouth every time I say it like oh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► it on Yelp yeah anyway so I cooked up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► iPad and then all my musics gone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► there so the only place any of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► stuff lives anymore is my desktop which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► I'm terrified of disturbing I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► terrified of waking it up from its nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► anymore because it contains multitudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► and every other way every other way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► Apple has to force me to either buy all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► that stuff again or go the rest of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► life only listening to Michael Franti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► and spearhead Apple's trying to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► and they're trying to do it by way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► these cryptic little pop-ups that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► like would you like to make a decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► fully difficult mmm it feels that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► sometimes but you know there there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► dirt huh this is not a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► interesting topic no it's not but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► know it is there I want to say I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► your frustration because there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► kinds of stuff that's super frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► you know one of those things is it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► feel like for a pretty long time Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► there are two things at least that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► got pretty well which was that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► always did seem to be kind of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► better things did get more reliable um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► and there was the things there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► improvements and you accepted one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► accepted them gladly because they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► improve the devices the software the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► surface whatever where but but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► second part is that it also kind of felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► like like you got used to Apple being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► good shepherd being a good guy being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► good Sherpa being a good good friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► like you know you could just hit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► Update button if you're about to get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► a plane and know that like yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► spring a chance is not just gonna really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► screw up and this is the most horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► general kind of comment but I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► both cases the feeling as a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► garden-variety user is that neither of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► those things is the case anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► then both trends are going the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► if you you know if you do if you do run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► some kind of an update especially on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► it is like we said it's very unclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► sometimes what's going to happen after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► you do this and that's that makes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► resistant the last thing you want is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► have people resistant to operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► updating the operating system but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► know hand-in-hand with that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► second part which is like now I'm scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► you use my desktop because I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► do anything that makes it eat all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► mp3's because it has a different account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► associated with it like what stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► mine that I get to keep forever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► I don't think they're trying to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► buy it again I just think sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► there are pretty tone-deaf about helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► guide people into whatever the new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► is going to be and sometimes they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► reluctant to just admit you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► that way we used to do it we're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► abandoning that but we're not telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► you that you keep running this like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► a thing that's going to be there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► like unless you're in the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► Mac arathi and like following every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► headline you're not going to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► that thing's already very close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► end-of-life that basically wins the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► stuff stops getting upgrades the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► stops you know what I mean that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► salutary sign and you would notice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► working properly until just one day it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► doesn't and I don't think they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► well it's interesting we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► the tech world for for a long time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► the decades and decades we've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► this program absolutely is one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► one of our first topics this technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► decades ago that's right that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► about biology this is you know if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► on to LinkedIn you'll see the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► is one of my whatever core competencies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► I think I endorsed you for that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► whatever yeah thumbs upses but uh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► you know the not very long ago you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► had a brief conversation where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► saying you know I used to love a tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► bot and Tweetbot tweet ba was this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► program I used it a lot and then it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► started to be less and less functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► it was it couldn't do certain things it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► wouldn't I wouldn't let me see embedded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► content it just sort of started to fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► apart and I kept using it wondering what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► was going on and it felt like there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► a few times over the years where lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► sandwich would put up an app or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► friend of yours would put up an app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► I would get it and I would use it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► it stopped being functional and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► ask you and they were like oh yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► stopped using that or well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► there was that why you know they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► stopped updating it it was it turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► into it how it happens it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► sometimes stuff just goes away but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► you wouldn't expect like if you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► favorite like kitchen knife you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► expect it to just stop working one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► if it became double you would notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► that and then deal with that buy a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► it but there's no you don't get a pop up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► on kitchen knives that like oh by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► way this is no longer supported right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► and so I figured that was what was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► on with Tweetbot well so I got to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► point where it just it wasn't functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► anymore and I and I was I was sad but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► went over and started using them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► Twitter app which was awful people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► strong shows about Twitter clients it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► a very it's very personal relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► yeah but I put this out there on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► and and I got a ton of people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► well why don't you use tweet bot and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► was like well I did I thought it was tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► away so I wrote you and said what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► companies and it seems like a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► answer but it's actually the closer we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► what's actually happening it requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► like a whiteboard and a chalk talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► explain why why your tweet bot is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► working yeah you're like oh you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► go in and pay for the update that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► way that people that make small apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► that aren't like massive that's how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► fund it you have to go buy stop that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► how they get paid is how I would put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► sorry yeah they're not it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► they're you know putting out a tin cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► like this is what these people do for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► living that's how the only way they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► make money is to sell and you sell you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► new version or have in-app purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► yeah yes that is how you explained it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► me at the time however that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► clear to me as a layperson because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► not reading Macworld or whatever and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► how was I to know that it there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► never in tweet bought a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► popped up and said by the upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► because we don't we need to get paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► because this is what we do for a living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► or there was never bail on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► that said oh by the way the ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► you think you're used to has quietly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► changed in the last few years here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► some bullet points from Apple explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► exactly how the 70% take versus 30% like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► oh here's what all that means like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► it's it's all it's a black art to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► understand why things happen like wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► what how come all of a sudden almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► everything is free but I have to pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► the good stuff well sit down have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► sandwich this is gonna take about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► explain right and I was thrilled to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► this $4.99 drum machine app for my iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► because it was one of these moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► these you know I I've been down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► music store a few times like which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► of these Roland 808 is the right vintage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► drum machine for me and I'm talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► the tech dudes like if I get this will I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► in there and they're kind of all looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► at me like I don't know how that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► man I just do it all in the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► right I'm like you don't know how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► classic drum machine works they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► nah we just have that here for the Nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► like you some like the Greybeards that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► want to come in and fondle something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► from their childhoods we don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► it works it's not a thing that we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► ever use look at me I'm to live crude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► yeah because drop whatever is 808 beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► whatever this 808 does there's thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► my phone that does it ten times better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► like get with the times and so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► but I found this this cool drum machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► simple to use and it's on the iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► it cost six bucks or something and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► like that's six bucks that I'm happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► spend it happy better to spend than 1500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► bucks on a on you know MC blow fish's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► fucking 808 stays so I get it and it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► but I have to like get my whole system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► in line and now I'm fucked now I now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► paid $5.00 for the drum machine and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► has to think about every beat and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► don't know if you I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► can speak to this but I certainly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► you do not want to think about every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► beat you want this to not you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► that's good that one's going in that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► going in the e-book says get that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► don't want it right you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► have to think about every beat you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► know uh well I'm done thank you so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► I'm John Kirkland and this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► episode of why computers are amazing hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► it's it's fun to fun it's fun to sit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► the Apple Store and listen to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► other conversations it's so I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► little initiative I guess everybody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► this if there's a thing that you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► like you're super interested or know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► lot about you kind of want to do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► blind questions of people like I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► friend who works on the Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► and somebody was mentioning his checkout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► person was mentioning um wrote one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► he was without revealing that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► worked on some of the shots was asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► like what did you think about grand moff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► tarkin and what did you think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► any of the characters and I did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► similar thing we're like if I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► curiosity do you use double tap for Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► or do you use double tap for play pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► you know if you want to go out and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► of ask around and and learn these kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► of things you you do that because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► have some you had some vested interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► that I just try I try to get a gauge I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► do a little bit of Thomas Friedman work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► right I like to just without being too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► much of a nerd you know like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► in a ride ride hailing car like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► a good chance that person's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► personal technology they have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► that in there and that's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► times like notice like which phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► they've got how they're using it how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► many do they have or like I go type it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► up I pick up lunch for the family and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► notice that the burger place we go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► has an array of seven different not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► iPads but Samsung's they have an array [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► of they've got this whole area it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► like you know Charles from the wrens you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► ever look at his pedal board it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► like that except it's all tablets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► take orders you know I'm just I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► different format yeah yeah from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► this is caviar this is you know spoonful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► this is knife edge or whatever I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► interesting to just kind of like get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► gauge about how other people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► thinking about and using technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► the Apple Store is super interesting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► that just yeah yeah let me let me ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► you this yes you there um this sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► like something that the old Merlin man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► would do back when he was Merlin man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► was a technology pundit yeah I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► seasoned today oh just you know yeah now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► it seems like you're just a layperson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► just a farmer you're just a farmer Merle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► just as God made me uh and you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► you know you're just out hoeing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► your ro Helen my till why why exactly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1674">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► this just an is just like a distracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► interest or are you are you still still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► character in the in the mortgage movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► or you know kind of keeping your hand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► the game even more the Christian Bale's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► oh the Christian the Christian Bale on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► the picture did you times I got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► speed metal in a confusing high because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► I like sitting on the bus and listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► to people talk I do - I just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► observing people in the wild not not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► in a snarky like I want to put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► picture on the internet with your raven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► kind of way but like you know like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► no that's just that is super interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► watching even how the lady my genius at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► the app bar like how I thought they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► say genius or Apple bar anymore but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► woman who helped me get my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► repair like watching how she interacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► like wow how she does stuff on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► that's it's not out of a vocational need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► really although this stuff does come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► on you know I don't know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► how you define what it is that I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► these days but like it does come up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► end up talking are several shows we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► like I have three different shows where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► stuff about Apple will come up even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► though it's not the primary topic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► it's mostly just my own interests like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► talking to my friends watching what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► they're doing but you know it's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► know I'm not sure the point I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► to make except that it there is such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► interesting and confusing range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► people's reckons about technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► you really get to overhear as they as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► the consumers playing it to the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► at the Genius Bar and you know let's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► know that's not every genius is a genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► you get real differing wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► wait a minute not all geniuses bouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► whole hold the phone yeah this about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► Bernie where's John is this about Bernie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► I my computer's not working right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► and it's the thing is that having done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► this with the iPad now my laptop and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► whole system doesn't work right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► I had to do all these things in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► upgrade I had to change passwords and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► then in by changing passwords I reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► settings accidentally not on purpose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► wasn't that I did it it was that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► computer did it without asking right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► now my message app won't let me send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► messages and I keep sending it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► Google just sent me an email saying an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► unsecured insecure app just tried to log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► on to your Google and that and I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► in the laptop sending messages via the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► message app like I didn't have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► to do with Google on this but but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► going through some you know yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► going through the the passages of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► mind or whatever hmm uh and so anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► here I am I got I got three messages I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► need to send I need to send them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► kisum so that's crazy problem I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► putting anger right now I see I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► not to talk about this on the program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► because we should talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► offline you're worried that somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► listening to the program is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► immediately use their superior hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► qualities to how am i sorry I'm worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► that's already happened on somebody's oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► I see so if you can't if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► cranium you should never need to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► your password to do an update that's oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► no I don't think I had to do that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► that they it was that uh why I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► honestly I have no idea right they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► the thing to do to figure this out is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► take your known good Apple name and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► trying to look you up here look whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► you're using for your come on contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► card yeah you should go and see if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► and see if you can log in with what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► know to be the correct credentials yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► all right well Annie what you should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► so thanks for your coming apart thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► you thanks for coming to Mack comm show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► I'm your host you-you-you don't ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► aunty your sequestered from from so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► of my world probably by design you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► even imagine the feedback that I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► from people about what I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► helping you with it's very frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► to people that I'm not constantly going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► in and correcting anything that's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► slightly wrong you're running from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► slightest technical problem the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► internet is very frustrated with me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► I don't fly to se a B Viva Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► Tacoma leave a SeaTac and personally go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► oh yeah feedback I get feedback about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► this yeah I'm I'm a pro straighter with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► the - what the hell aren't you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► that I know you know what this is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► of Jeff oshins portfolio why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► fly up here and fix this this message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► app right now oh you know what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► it's this it's the second device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► authentication did I agree to that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► agreed to which means that now I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► also finding my phone and typing in they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► might have lock your car keys into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► second set of car keys I did oh so look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► at you so just look at you squared away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► okay oh wait a minute what was that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► just happened why did I oh no what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► happened John ah it said you need to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► this code into your other machine and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► said okay he dismissed an and then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► and then I dismissed it no because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► didn't know where I wanted me to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► chit chit and and I was like a Zapotec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► get back but you got in you found you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► can find your car keys inside the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► keys you're gonna get a lot I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► try right now hang on okay yeah but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► is such good radiuses good fun um I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► the numbers in verifying trust this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► browser it asks me do I trust the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► browser what is that what blew the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► browser Safari then he got hacked I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► a virus I got heck with the virus be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► said you done dude it okay alright I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► oh wait a minute hey my cloud storage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► almost full oh it's photos videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► documents and data will no longer be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► updated but I can learn more let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► what it says good manage my iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► storage oh I can increase my storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► just 50 gigabytes who would ever need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► that many gigabytes for $0.99 US dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► a month you know I'm a flurbot terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► go for the terabyte I'm not going to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► it's you know it's like it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► um it's like the the Cosa Nostra right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► they stopped by your cheese shop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► they go you got a real nice cheese shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► here it'll be a shame if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► happened your camembert it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► that except in this case the putting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► army'll on you with attention where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► like every morning it's gonna go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► know what I mean well I mean in the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► okay here's the great thing in the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► that it took me to write and set to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► write the person I was trying to so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► there's a mayoral race in Seattle this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► season and uh my good friend former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► mayor Mike McGinn mm-hmm has thrown his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► hat back in the race to run against his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► arch nemesis and current mayor uh ed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► ed Murray had a dust-up ed Murray is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► the newspapers a lot recently here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► I'm not trying to be provocative but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► feel like I've heard some things uh he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► has uh he is it in the midst of scandal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► okay he says when she says is uh like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► dirty tricks right well I mean I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► have any problem just outlying the facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► yeah which are that uh you know ed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► Murray is gay he was a volunteer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► like a like a an activist a community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► activist in Portland in the 80s okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► and he was in his 30s in the late 1980s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► and he worked with you know at-risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► youth for many years accusations have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► dog Tim's that he in the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► mentoring uh street kids groomed and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► know helped a couple of them uh in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► live at his house okay and uh and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► accusations at the time that he had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► he was sexually abusing them and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► was like a a whisper in the press or was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► this kind of a public say no he wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► he wasn't I don't think prominent enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► then that it would have been a whisper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► in the press know a kid actually went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► the cops okay in the eighties thanks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► in the 80s it was a scene where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► here was this upstanding sort of guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► his 30s who is working with at-risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► youth versus a 15 year old drug addict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► street kid and so the cops just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► brushed it under the table right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► just like the they didn't pursue it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► now at right at the start of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► election season the handful of guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► were teenagers in the 80s have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► forward and said this happened to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► they they all have a lot of supportive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► for supporting evidence you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► all remember a certain sort of aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► his penis it had a bump on it and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► one of the guys remembers Ed's phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► number by heart you know from late 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► and it was a you know it is precisely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► my own private Idaho scenario in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► ways right these guys were these teens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► were Street kids and drug kids and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► were hustlers and they freely admit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► they were hustlers but this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► different scene with IDI right he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► like I mean one of the kids adopted Ed's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► last name as his you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► borderline adopting them this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► yeah and doing all that stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► giving them money taking them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► doctor promoting them saying you know go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► to college he was acting as a father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► and they you know and and all these kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► say you know that in a way they loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► him and some ways really loved him but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► he also was you know they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► weren't they didn't want to have his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► penis in them hmm and that was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► what he would that was his game I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► this is the accusation I have no I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► no knowledge one where they up obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► and complicating matters further the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► people that are from that are pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► this lawsuit are it's a law firm and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► conservative Christian group that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► pushing a very strong agenda and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► come at at a few different ways they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► they're the type of group that does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► sort of thing to other politicians one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► of the guys in the in the article the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► newspaper article about these accusers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► one of the guys had taken a masking tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► and written on the front of his blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► t-shirt written Jesus Saves in masking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► tape across the shirt for the photoshoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► because he forgot to wear his Jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► Saves shirt so that is you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► leftists right are very suspicious of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► that whole thing and so we're off to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► races right the mayor's office denies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► everything they went to the dot they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► went to had some doctor examine him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► say there's no bump on his penis even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► though it's sort of one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► where it's like really there's like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► guys that all say the same thing um and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► so it's like it's very it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► complicated and all Oh non-complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► also because if you're running against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► him that's not the way you'd want to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► you were right well it isn't except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► you know like this will bring a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► but the thing about McGinn is that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► against Edie Marie profoundly and McGinn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► doesn't care begin will never mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► this this this isn't on his radar at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► he he just he's against Ed's personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► he's against his policies he's a he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► sidelines for the last four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► just like chomping at it he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► helped my City Council campaign and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► was in that time that I realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► he's a player he wants in you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► so this was just a you know the lot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► lot of the reason that McGinn wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► have run against it and I'm sure he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► conceived been thinking about it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► politician too and had shored up support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► from a lot of different quadrants and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► lot of that support in politics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► learned in running is I mean everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► very half-hearted they're like well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► don't like this about we don't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► or that about this person but he's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► best shot so we're throwing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► behind him right because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► there's no half endorsement in politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► nobody goes like well we sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► both people but you know I mean the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► people that do that are the stranger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► right who who endorsed my opponent by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► saying this guy's kind of a creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► serial killer but he knows policy John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► Roderick is a really fun rakish exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► guy that we like a lot but he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► hasn't been in the game long enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► that's an endorsement that helps nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► or satisfies nobody right that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► like thank-thanks but most like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► union's everybody else restaurant it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► would be like a restaurant review where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► they can't personally find anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► like on the menu but they can give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► reasons not to order two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► things it's like well okay so should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► avoid the restaurant altogether like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► right it's a I kid that's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► super actionable unless I just side not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► to vote yeah or just you just got you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► I guess they're open about lesser of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► evils but 99% of the people don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► read even that deep into it they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► they pulled the cheat sheet out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► check the box that they tell him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► check you sure but in this case the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► question of whether or not Mike McGinn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► would run against Edie Marie was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► a question of how vulnerable is Edie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► Edie is a very good politician and so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► had shored up support from all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► groups all of the the all of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► you need so he seemed in he seemed less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► vulnerable not invulnerable ever right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► but he seemed like if all the powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► that be were going to get behind him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► he's a much more difficult person to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► controversy and I and I don't mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► just that it's unfortunate for Ed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► unfortunate for all involved it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► and presuming I think that you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► can presume that there's truth to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► accusations cuz it just doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► unlikely you know it seems like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► just points you get to and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► anything about this I'm not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► speculate but you know there are those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► kinds of things that you run into where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► you're like this there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► different pieces coming to even small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► pieces coming from so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► places you know it isn't like a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► well one-one idiot says Iraq has WMDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► you know it isn't even anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► that it's more like there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► little bits of chatter and smoke from so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► many different places it almost seems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► the in retrospect with cases like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► it seems like there's probably something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► going on well and also and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► this is the problem that makes it hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► to shake for sure if if you talk to if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► you talk to anyone who was a gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► teenager in the 1980s there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► culture then and there wasn't there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► a culture that was that that just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► very different idea of what the age of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► the appropriate age of consent was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► in a lot of these western states like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► that the age of consent in Oregon has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► been 18 for a long time but across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► America the there are a there states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► where the age of consent was 12 until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► not that long ago no in Ohio for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► heterosexual business uh-uh yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► because homosexual business was against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► the law no matter how old you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► there was no age of consent for it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► it could not be it was illegal by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► definition but the age of consent for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► heterosexual sex in a mean it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► very state to state and there are states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► where it's 14 years old still there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► a lot of yeah there are a lot of states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► where it's 16 like the number of states [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► that it was 18 were definitely in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► minority for a long time I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► not true now but so so this idea that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► have that 18 years old is the age of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► consent or even 16 is the age of consent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► isn't necessarily that that's a that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► that is an idea that has been evolving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► over time and in the 80s in in Oregon on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► the streets of Portland and I was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► streets of Portland in the 80s and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► was a dark and lawless place but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► not just digitally can find a finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► wasn't there no but I did meet keanue we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► went for a motorcycle ride but like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► of them all the American streets right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► like the the gay communities were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► able to be out and proud they had they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► had their own sort of system their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► law and a lot of you know if you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► Dan Savage about his own experiences or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► anybody my age who was gay in the 80s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► their experiences are incredibly varied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► and a lot of them had mentors who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► older men that sort of brought them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► the life showed them the way and were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► and that's a thing that that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► heterosexual context it never it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► always a little bit uh creepy the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► of a mentor right or like an older man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► that's going to show it your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► out anytime I just loves hearing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► these problems that you see or know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► California is changing as of this week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► think changing the structure for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► things like especially things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► faculty get reported and tracked down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► you know I mean that's I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► something where the anytime there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► power differential there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► questions right I mean anytime that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► there is one person has venus otro for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► sexual harassment that anytime there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► power differential like the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► every aspect of how that gets treated is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► different it's one thing for it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► your 18 year old neighbor and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► thing for it to be like a 40 year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► powerful man you know who has who has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► reputation and who has the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► affect any way it's just it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► difficult not to look weird even that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► a recent you know or an evolving idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► right we we see that power now as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► differential as a thing that is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► we pour a lot of energy into seeing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► as uh as exploitative um but that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► the case in the seventies right or or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► interactively interfer in terms of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► mutual consent mostly relationship yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► just in that in that but it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► usually like I I had several instructors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► in college who dated students like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► were in the class with me that used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► be like a pretty normal thing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► guidance counselor at the University of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► Washington when I was 22 and she was 38 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► huh I remember this seduced me and um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► and had control over my transcripts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► what because I was transferring to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► determining what the my credits were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► going to be like I was coming from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► school that had a semester system I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► system and it was sort of up to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► discretion whether or not a semester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► credit was written down as a credit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► a quarter or credit for two quarters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► almost every college garlis of how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► the colleges is if you transfer in they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► will find a way to shave credit no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► matter where you went and she found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► way to not shave those credits Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► um she found a way because she had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► she had the the number two pencil that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► some of my higher level classes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► were owned that were a semester long got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► turned into two quarters worth of credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► because we were sleeping together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► and that wasn't mm-hmm that that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► lost on me but and not not that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► doing it not that I was doing it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► right now with malice aforethought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► wasn't like you said oh I'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► have this relationship in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► more credits no I had no idea that such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► a relationship was possible until I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► in it but it became very weird later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► when I kind of like you broke up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► her for lack of a better term and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► called my house my mom's house saying hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► this is John's guidance counselor I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► really worried about him do you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► information about you know like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► differential and she was in the end I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► think a very nice person who was in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► own life kind of going through a period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► going through a a midlife crisis maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► even and um and I always have seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► older than I was or more mature than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► was but I it wasn't just that I was 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► like I was pretty inexperienced not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► was not a 22 year old who had had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► ten long-term relationships with girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► my own age you know I was still pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► new I didn't lose my virginity until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► was 20 and I had you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► though that next couple of years from 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► to 22 were not particularly fruitful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► years in terms of getting to know ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► and what and how to how to behave how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► behave myself and in do and she did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► teach me right she taught me uh things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► that I didn't know about things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► didn't that hadn't occurred to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► know you know yeah like it wasn't just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► she wasn't exploiting me or I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► didn't I didn't feel like I guess I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► like that at the time but I didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► like um I you know it's not like I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► wasn't afraid of anything I'm not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► not exactly I haven't really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► about it in a long time and tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► process it in a modern context because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► at the time it just felt like and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► know and if you say to your friends like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► oh yeah they're like whoa right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► it's a because it's a the nature of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► younger man older woman relationship is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► that people don't have sympathy for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► right they're talking about that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► gab fest they were talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► whole thing of like just that that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► imbalance between we're like if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► an older predatory man with a younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► woman I mean you know a child or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► know teenager you everybody looks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► that and goes you but like there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► still this narrative of when it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► older potentially predatory woman who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► using their power willfully in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► maybe like everybody goes yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► like it's so like you know yeah but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► that case you like you were an adult you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► weren't a minor at the time but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► still in our Delta I mean and I but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► was a minor in my mind you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► was still a child but there was when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► when she and I would go shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► this was always very interesting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► of what I would talk to my friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► even my even my uh my girlfriend's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► my younger woman friends yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► always it was always uh regarded as that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► I that this was evidence that I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► that I was a big wheelwright that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► sleeping with this older woman that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► in a position of power and she was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► lawyer - I mean she she had she she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► left her career in order to work at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► University for some reason I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► maybe hmm maybe it was maybe because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► look back huh has she ever been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► but when we would go to the grocery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► store together other middle-aged women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► would glare at her and so much so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► noticed it and I mentioned it to her one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► time because we were waiting in line you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► know we were checking out we had bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► some ingredients for she was gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► me something she called green pizza and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► we were sitting there in the and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► woman checking us out at the grocery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► store was given you know was just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► of giving her a lot of vibe and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► there were a couple of encounters where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► we were walking down the aisle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► putting stuff in the shopping cart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► it was clear that we were there as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► romantic couple and not as she wasn't my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► mom right and uh and you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► she just got the stink-eye and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► mentioned to her and she was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► yeah well she sort of blew it off as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► though it was you know uh she wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► surprised and it it did surprise me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► still kind of surprises me because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► not sure what I'm not sure what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► means within the within a culture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► middle-aged women like what why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► would be mad at someone who had a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► boyfriend what exactly what exact crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► come on without getting any too specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► because who knows but I mean the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► one is oh I know what you're up to right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► everybody might have different reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► why it bothers them that she's up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► that but I mean it's a common thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► like oh you're not fooling anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► yeah and and it feels a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► the like Monty Python Housewives like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► hey pearl pearl clutching mm-hmm but um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► all of that is sort of uh beside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► point or or at least tangential to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► point which is that you all you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► do it seemed so simple was to send uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► send the text to the mayoral candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► oh right solvent popping the stack John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► so here I Mike McGinn who has declared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► that he's running for the for the mayor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► allottee the only reason he's chosen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► do it is that that he saw he saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► political advantage right there ISM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► there was a moment where Ed's newfound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► vulnerability was going to cause enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► of the people that enough of the unions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► that had thrown their support behind him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► to waver and to be unsure that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► would be a there was an opportunity for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► Mike to get in he has you know Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► wouldn't care if it was just that Ed had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► stubbed his toe might be getting an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► opening yeah and he Mike's going to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► better job and he's going to be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► for the city is why he's running right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► that's what that's his his justification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► so anyway he and I were supposed to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► for lunch today but the problem was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► this is the problem I never put things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► into my calendar right I have made three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► separate lunch dates for today at noon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► Oh John and I didn't realize it I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► realize I had done it I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► everybody that talked to me last week it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► was like we should get lunch next week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► was like what about Monday and each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► person was like let me get back to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► and when they got back to me we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► yes let's do Monday 12:30 let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► Monday at 12:30 I was like great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► I was like sittin and stewing and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► like wait a minute do I have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► uh-huh I looked at my calendar there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► wasn't anything there and um and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► was like I think I'm having lunch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► the mayor and I thought wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► aren't I also having lunch with Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► what does anybody else that I'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► lunch with and then I did I said can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► wear is there anybody did I just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► like then I was like oh shit I'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► lunch with Kate and I felt like such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3589">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► quite a feeling I hate that feeling it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► like like this and unforced error like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► Oh jiminy what am I doing here yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► like what did I turn three different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► people and all these are important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► lunches right I want to have lunch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► Kate I want to have lunch with Mike I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► want to have lunch with Brian and Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► don't leave it all in garden consolidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► them it's just what I thought for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► conversations all three of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► supposed to be competent I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► it's just this is how bearing out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► these so telling you you guys should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► working together all one big team so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► morning I've been sending you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► trying to send this message like hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► got to reschedule hey I got a reschedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► uh I just got a text on my phone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► Brian and Scott saying get this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► these two these two fucking guys it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► 11:10 a.m. they're like we're here at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► the restaurant get here when you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► play mini seriously you guys gonna sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► there for an hour so I'm gonna show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► at or an hour and a half I'm gonna show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► up at 12:30 and you're gonna you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► and the checks gonna be on the table and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► have a thumb of coffee left in the cup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► so so what what I just did was i it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► Brian and Scott sent me that saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► that indicates to me that I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► taking that lunch date seriously anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► okay because I'm gonna go there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► but I'm gonna swing by because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► gonna swing by my swing ugly ready like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► we had state for 12:30 not for 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► they're there already they're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► their own little how can these men but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► passive-aggressive move I'll say it puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► you back on your heels no unnecessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► so I'm gonna swing by and let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► sales but I sent a thing to Kate saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► I was sorry could we reschedule and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► I asked the mayor if we could push it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► back till 2:00 and the mayor just wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► back and said yep so Wow I'm I'm on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► too with the mayor I cancel with Kate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► I'm going to see you get your swing by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► first and then you're gonna go back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► I'm gonna go meet the mayor and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► early dinner with Adam Savage because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► I'm interviewing him tonight at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► University of Washington Oh No kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► and we're gonna talk about what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► going to talk about wait wait hang on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► you talk about Mythbusters guy yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► like that just he get he got he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► brought to town by the University Office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► he didn't want him he's a very nice man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► very nice man they asked if I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► the moderator and I said of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► so that's my day-to-day is swing by like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► sorry had to have to skip Kate huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► bounce over to the Merrit too and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► early dinner with Adam at 5:00 boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► you're a hell of a day going on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► just another day in the life hmm I woke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► up and I fell out of bed mm-hmm I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► even dragged a comb across oh you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► even find your way upstairs and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► cup I have my cups or downstairs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► do you notice you really noticed I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► like what am i late to the show I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► those few minutes late we both made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► no no I'm USA USA ding ding I asked it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► Adams really good summit it's a fun time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► I got it very rated as a masterpiece but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► it's a very good song the thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► nobody had ever done it before so thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► you so you get a bye you get a pass when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► nobody's ever done so it's for you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► useful pass the George Martin Georgia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► Martin gets full points for that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► like you know it's good it's good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► know it's no and your Burke I sing yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► sorry I don't mean to take off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► lunch talk my brother Bart once said to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► me as I was complaining about revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► defended revolution number nine and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► it as you know as a groundbreaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► watershed experimentation a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► was you know that changed the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► there was never you couldn't go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► couldn't put revolution number nine back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► in the bottle and I was unsophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► at the time I was just a I was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► teenager and I was saying it's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► chunk of an album that's already too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► long and everyone in the world has only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► listened to it once or twice like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► not a song that you play the The White [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► Album our revolution number nine number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► nine oh yeah we don't know yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► happen to adore that record but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► you're right that's that's that's us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► that's a skipper yet you don't put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► side of the album on yeah it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► butcher song on an odyssey an Oracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► like every great album has a song every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► dum not every about a lot but my brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► wouldn't hear it he would not hear nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► because it was the first and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► because it was the first like music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► concrete brought in to rock yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► it was it was innovative in in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► were so many techniques that had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► even in the even in an avant-garde [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► context hadn't been tried yet okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► multitrack right multi-tracking him I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► guess I I don't care for it I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► I don't think it's aged well no no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► has and and I and I think the orchestral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► are uh you know we're all used to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► they are they are but they're and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► think that that was a fine solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► that problem but you can tell by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► that they built it right they they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► the one part they had the other part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► they didn't know what to do they counted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► off that that area right on either side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► yeah and said leave Spacey more thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► yeah we'll put something here uh-huh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► the solution was what they with how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► solve it right that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► happened but I don't think that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► the I don't think that that was the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► thing that could have gone in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► pocket hmm let's just put it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► but nobody asked me nobody wants nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► wants to ghost of Christmas past me back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► to Abbey Road no to get my you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► thoughts on it like hey you guys touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► it before we do this this was remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► white white up we talk about the White [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► oh okay Dan the Life Sergeant Pepper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► right you know what's weird when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► going to sleep last night you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► gonna believe the song I had in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► uh she's leaving home for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► was in my head it's a great song it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► really good song he's make me so sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► when I was like 12 or 13 oh this must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► what it's like when your child leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4014">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► thinking about how his wife's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► dressing-gown I started to think as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► was falling asleep I was thinking how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► sounds like English people have lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► different clothes for different modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► that Americans just don't have well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► have sleeping hats that's true yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► yeah dress gowns night shirts do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► unions did you ever wear a nightshirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► yeah and not something I felt very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► comfortable about but I'm usually like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► pajamas or underwear man I got the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► sickening sweatpants yeah for a while in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► the 1980s during the I think what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► going to call the initial prep revival [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► um when Lands End first really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► making a stab for the boat shoe market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► oh sure there was a there was a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► where I got an LLB n-- plaid flannel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► nightshirt hmm um and you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► mean by nightshirt right it's knee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► length flannel oh go to the cleaner pan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► you get like a long long search like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► almost like a tooth right mm-hmm and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► was like I'm gonna I'm doing this I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► I'm I'm rockin the nightshirt now it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► right when I had transitioned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► tighty whitey underwear or y-fronts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► to boxer shorts and I felt like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► sophisticated manhood men did not wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► white underwear they wore plaid boxers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► because that's because I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► where I got that idea and nightshirts is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► nightshirt for a while but I'm a I'm an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► active sleeper and I would get tangled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► up in this thing I would get tangled up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► in it like like when you put four towels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► in a dryer uh like I was just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► like up over my head and I'm an athletic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► I've jump around I bounce around when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► I'm sleeping and then one day I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► home from school and my nightshirt had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► been cut in half huh because my sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► decided that it was a cool punk rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► layering so yeah development she had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► belt and you got a got a steel going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► there well except that she cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► bottom nine inches off because it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► more like a Madonna like a midriff type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► situation she had well no it wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► high but she had cut she just decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► that she had the power to take scissors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► it was brassy and if I hadn't if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► I probably would have the nightshirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► would have gone down the river I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► have never thought about it again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► she'd said can I have that even but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► fact that she cut that thing means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► I will never forget that night sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► right I'm still upset about still you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► still stewing I'm still stewing I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► very interesting dream scape last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► are you okay four-time yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► those guys I'm just gonna swing by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► opinions I had a very interesting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► normally my when I lay in bed and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► trying to go to sleep or if I wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► and I want to go back to sleep I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► have this dream landscape that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► conjured that's that's full of adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► what what what drifts me off to sleep is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► that I'm you know I'm like part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► secret mission that's doing a halo jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► into some kind of you know like jungle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► where we're going to take on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► drug criminals or you know I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► have a I sketch out a little adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► scenario and then I put myself sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► up there and this in the like with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► parachute on and my oxygen mask on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► my teammates and we're like let's go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► we jump and then it's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► jumping off into sleep Wow Wow uh like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► do a lot of that kind of and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► sure how long those adventure scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► carry over into my dreams but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► kind of like how I head off to sleep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► you would think they're very adventurous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► scenarios that it would get my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► beating and I wouldn't fall asleep but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► it exactly is like the opposite of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► you want I think about trying to get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► heartbeat to lower no no I'm always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► like this then we're or like heist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► scenarios right we're where I'm where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► I'm thinking like and the high scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► always maybe what puts me to sleep is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► not so much the stealing of the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► but the fencing of the thing when I sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► and think about because I run high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► scenarios periodically I spend more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► thinking about fencing the goods or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► laundering the money like bye-bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► like we've dollar heist involved like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► gold bullion you got some bars like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► you monetize that how do you monetize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► right if you if you're one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► those guys that steals a pallet full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► money in the back of a of a armored car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► yeah and and you make it let's say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► make it to Mexico or wherever you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► going how do you launder that money that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► is what I really like to think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► heist itself I figure is fait accompli [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► sure right we're gonna go and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► gonna take the diamonds we're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► the money the gold whatever well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► gonna take the pen 1 2 3 we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► obviously success is not a guarantee but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► the really interesting part in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► not really interesting but the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► interesting part is what happens after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► they're done and how they get caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► because how they get caught part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► heist is always a fun part too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► that's how that's the that's the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► the heist an area that I never want to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► don't want to have under thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► right I've got I'm gonna have a plan too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► much so much of the upfront like you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► the English guy with the bomb in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► the backend like how do we get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► Guatemala or what have you that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► like you find the guy with the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► glasses who walks you through a back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► door and there's a passport waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► I'm thinking um you know I'm laying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► bed and I'm like kind of flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► through my rolodex of heist stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► hallo jumps and just spontaneously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► don't know where this came from at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► it was not intentional I'm lying there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► and all of a sudden I'm driving a bus in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► I'm on the wrong you know I'm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► left side of the street and I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► Western Ireland so rural coastal Ireland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► and I'm just driving a municipal bus Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► and I'm making all my stops and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► are getting on people are riding my bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► and they're getting off and I lay in bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► and drove this bus around Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► Ireland for I it feels like all night oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4436">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► my god you just clean your route let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► people get on people just just doing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► route and and there were people that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► on and recognized that I was a new bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► and there were some small villages where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► the road was very curvy going down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► hill and I had to maneuver the bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► through these narrow streets going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► a very curvy switchback and I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► quite well I didn't have any snafus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► so when I woke up this morning I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► you know I woke up kind of early and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► and I had a little opportunity to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► back to sleep for a while I call that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► measly bonus sleep when you get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► bonus sleep yeah a little bit of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► know point after the touchdown type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► situation that's how it was mm-hmm and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► immediately started driving my bus in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► Ireland against a club back and where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► go yeah and I just couldn't be happier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► and it's just like you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► you're driving along it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► little little sort of stone villages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► facing the water and you pull up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► stop and there's a lady with her hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► and a hankerchief carrying two plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► grocery bags sure and you stop and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► gets on let her on the bus and she pays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► her fare she goes back and then I close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► the door and I and I Drive was it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► it's difficult to say by me wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► pleasant feeling did you enjoy driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► the bus it was wonderful it sounds nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► it was really what really - no you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► rude like it's gonna be nice you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► know the people a little bit starts just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► feeling feeling like you're in a groove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► that's what I'm hoping and I and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► that you know that it's gonna be unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► for them that American is driving their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► bus I think that's going to be a novelty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► once we start chatting once the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► gets out that the new bus drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► American uh-huh no sure I but I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► be fine with that I'm you know I enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► that kind of attention sounds kind like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► a say or like a Bill Forsyth movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► a fish out of water in the UK type movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► George on the bus driver John's the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► of the bus driver and I feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► gonna get to know everybody and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► gonna learn their ups and downs and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► know they're gonna be that few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► trust their bus driver bus drivers uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► A's irregularities like the mailman he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► he's a trusted public servant yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► you put your kid on the bus you take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► kid to school right you you feel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► feel confident that you're that the bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► is a safe place so uh so that's my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► thing and I and I hope I don't this may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► be as maybe the beginning of a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► chapter for me which part the bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► well first dreaming about the bus that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► feels important dreaming about driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► the bus feels very important that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► driving bus dream I mean and uh and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► think if it if it keeps going I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► like you know this is the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► halo jumps and high scenarios they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► not really I'm probably never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► do a halo jump and I'm probably not ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► steal a bunch of gold bars but I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► could drive a bus in Ireland hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► according to dreams cloud.com which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► assuming knows everything about dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► um you got the dream of being on a bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► may suggest you are going along with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► crowd not taking responsibility dreaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► of driving the bus may suggest you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► the leader of your group and the dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► is providing an opportunity to examine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► your leadership skills and where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► taking them paying the fare may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► metaphor for the price you are paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► but you're not paying for you're driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► the bus I'm driving it and what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► Ireland king of Ireland well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► know I have Clare what is dreaming of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► Ireland signify I'm sure somebody must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► have talked about it dreaming of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► lady there's a lot of songs called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► dreaming of Ireland yeah I know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► it has to be meaningful I've decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► it's meaningful yeah I think it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► think it is if I mean I'm I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► looking for that that thing where I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► my duck and maybe that maybe that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► we might think about it it's not a halo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► jump but here's the thing is it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► it's in a nice somewhat past door ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► don't be condescending but it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► in a somewhat like pastoral calm setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► it represents a what do you call it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► it's it's a job and not only is it a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► where you have to be there on time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► you got to be places at the job on time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► it sounds like the ultimate grind but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► fact it's not it sounds like the soul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► wanting some kind of regularity that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► comfortable not just a grind mm-hmm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► man talk about a dream buddy whoa that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► a dream if the sign says the bus got has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► to be there at 10:15 that's not a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► that's not a thing that's up open to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► negotiation that's like your only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► she got to shop impact she needs to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► on your bus she does right and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► is I think your thing about about what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► imagine about Western Ireland is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4738">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► nobody there is striving Yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► nobody's getting on that bus because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► they're going to the local community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► college to get a degree in computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► science because they want to move to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► if they are you know they're doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► they have some bucolic errands uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► they've got to move seeds oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► whatever God is they got turf for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► mulches probably uh-huh uh-huh Pete Pete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► old Pete Pete some somebody's got it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► should be a bus driver name your bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENUPtjE/4774">TS</a>]