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00:00:36 ◼ ► you guys we should be president united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► states yeah I take it he says he's 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/38">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► years old in that video you know so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► oh it's so worth I was out last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► with some other old people when i say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► last night I mean you know between five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► thirty and seven thirty talk about time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/57">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► conscious of you know there's a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► group of our small group of us old old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► old men talk about how young we look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/68">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► complimenting each other or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/74">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► kind of casually note how interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► that you continue to look so good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► oh no no we thought it all starts on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► are congratulating your friends on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► young looks what looks so maybe you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► great so look great now you look great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► and then there's a there's quite a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► of like we're all good looking guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► yeah you're looking yeah i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► really good-looking guy we're all good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/98">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► yeah it's a lie though of course and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/102">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► mhm yeah I agreed upon you gotta not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► legal phrase it's a line from its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► titular line from an episode of the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/116">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► dad what I know the care you care deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/121">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► mhm they have a guitar playing on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/127">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► yeah that's one of those shows you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► this is the thing that has come up i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► think before in conversation between me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► and other humans who the shows that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/138">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► modern music alright you talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/144">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► this with the key blinders yeah peaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► blinders arm its III can't I can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/151">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► I get why it's very stylish they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► do that and Edward L it is very it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/158">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► very period-appropriate except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► very elevated language well I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► the theme the actual theme song of dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► wood was a little bit how you say head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/171">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► hmm which is a little bit like a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► recreation of water it the imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► am I sort of a modern what will I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/184">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► yeah we're like if you didn't know much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► about music in that time you think might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► yeah have you throw their joy thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/195">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► doesn't make it a thing that's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► good point you know you don't want me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► you thought it would shoot a banjo and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/202">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► thing who still doesn't make it back you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► got strong feelings about well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► banjo players the body is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► instrument itself right boom content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► contempo let's say I don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/213">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► banjo player i should refine this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► yeah the banjo so first of all the banjo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/219">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► I think it's if you take a banjo player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/224">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► and you put a certain kind of hat on him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► right like you like i love banjo playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/229">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► it's just that it's a certain kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► hat goes on a banjo player when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► wow ok you're on a path now where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/240">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► going to start we're gonna start to peel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► off so is that a little bit like bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► like that like the version have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► angry because I started doing stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► you the banjo player version of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► oh you know like the the Lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/257">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► Rings ring oh I feel like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► having it kind of start to change your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► personality or you know so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► walking around some kind of a Horcrux is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► going to do something to like start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/265">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► affecting the way that you think an act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► you put my flat cap on a banjo player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► and pretty soon everything is out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/271">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► I feel like if you are learning an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/272">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► instrument that you have right you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► war with the instrument you have yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► about the instrument you want so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► are somebody sitting around you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► I want to learn the piano but the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► piano that you have as a tack piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► you're gonna learn to play the tack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► piano huh gonna learn to play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► Oh learn to attack piano and so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/294">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► learning to play the banjo let's say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► I'm i got here i am going to learn play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► the banjo I think there are people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► grow up learning the banjo as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► first instrument but i think would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► a lot of the time they learn the guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► and then they they try to like retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► like they may modify they modified down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/314">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► to banjo they think interesting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► whatever you started on you start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► an instrument that becomes your way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► conceptualizing music works and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► back into different instruments read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► this was the interesting thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/331">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► Paul McCartney right his he learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► guitar but he learned banjo chords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► oh I would we would even listen to a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/337">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► of beetles and happily at my daughter's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► request and i still can't get over his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► baseline I just said I set there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► like Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► not by a long shot my favorite Beatles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► song this baseline on that is bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► it's like where did that baseline even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► come from or something like hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► goodbye like how is he has he just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► getting better and better and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► over six or seven years it's nuts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► you know he was originally a guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/364">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► player now was he originally wasn't his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► I wonder if he started on a woodwind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► instrument i think that i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► story was that they taught him the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/374">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► Oh new banjo chords and she taught in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► bandra chords on the guitar guy I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► know I haven't read haven't read my you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► don't keep up with the robots my library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/387">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► of beetles me books lately we don't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► about the Beatles and years it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► quite awhile used to talk about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/393">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► exclusively easy just pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► Beatles Hitler and getting all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► mm but but so so I don't know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► few set down a path and you're like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► banjos my thing now and you put on a hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/405">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► as part of that ok right you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/410">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► I'm saying I think I do yeah if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/414">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► just in the appear just devoted to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► study of banjo and you're just in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► banjo studying for your sitting in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► tree or whatever wherever they teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► banjo I think generally when you learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► it yet that's taught in trees I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► you're supposed to I mean I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► about this but I think I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► supposed to be on a paddlewheel boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► with no shoes and one leg swing over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/433">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► side that's a great way to learn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► I mean Kermit the Frog learned it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► tree must be hard to keep it tuned we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► well sure because this shit humidity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► it's not there it's not the heat it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► the stupidity but if you if you pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► the band junior like this is my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► instrument i'm going to be in the I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/455">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► gonna be in a band that requires a banjo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► player and I'm gonna and I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/458">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► pick up this instrument now and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► immediately as part of that process you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► ok i'm talking not not like put on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► banjo player had put on at an actual hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► and you think that that's a component of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► being the banjo player in your band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► Oh in true rest sting I mean who do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/476">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► think like and it's I don't even think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► it's a question of like this is my magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► banjo playing happen without it I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► play the banjo but it's that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► as the banjo player in this band which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► I'm just beginning on this course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► life i'm going to start out with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/491">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► hat on and this is going to be my hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► and we're already were divorced you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► I I feel like we really want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► about christie Lee some days I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► obsessed with christie Lee right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► she was it he's a tremendous musician I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► I've been watching a lot of videos the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/515">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► yeah in addition to loving his hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► of prairie home companion it's the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► oh good I'm glad to hear i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► show you won't listen to but he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► doing it for a while and like the guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/531">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► that he has on their way he writes a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► song every week every week is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► good song plays the shit out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/537">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► mandolin and he's also there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► good nature jokes about being someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► who will just just just on Saturday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► night's program he said you know to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► about mandolin players they spent after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► time tuning and half the time playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/550">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► there's a lot of strings and if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► very close together mm he's not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► much real estate every time I pick up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► man like seriously really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► stretch this out a little bit you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► make this little longer a little wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/566">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► and there'll be more room but he plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► that thing like like if Jimmy Page was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► good on guitar he just he rips he rips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/570">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► on that thing indeed even has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► presence of mind like when he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► do like quote a famous line when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► wants to quit the famous line from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► losing my religion he he drops the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► tuning on once one of the strings just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► little bit so it sounds a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► more Peter Bucky you as we cover isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► that nice but I was watching so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► say I've been watching a lot of videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► you know again I'm kind of obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► that AV Club thing where they come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► and play covers and they the punch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► brothers did an amazing cover of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► what i needed totally on ironic cover of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► just what I needed and I notice a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► guys in the band have hats this first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► thing I notice the second thing I notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► is that there is you don't see two guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► were in the same hat have you noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► this in bands it would be unseemly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► show up for a performance banjo player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► or otherwise and you turned out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► wearing the state's almost like we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/619">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► the same shirt as somebody else in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/620">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► band like it would be unless that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► doing that for up for an effect but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► highlight that these were twins or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► something like you wouldn't want to wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/627">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► the same hat somebody else in the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/628">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► is that part of the Hat process you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► to get some get some independence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► your of your hat so my my understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/633">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► which isn't deep or broad but you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/638">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► write your men not just to have your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► I mean you're meant to have your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/651">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► crown your own style of crown when King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/652">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► yeah and every person that I mean from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► the from the olden time like from hume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/659">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► times like say 1950 if you look at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► picture like a crowd shot of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► nineteen let's say 1940 over and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► you're looking out and there's a sea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► people and you look at their hats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/674">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► they're all wearing hats and you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► their hats and everybody's got their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/677">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► yeah for first glance it looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► lot of men wearing the same happen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► you look closely you see their different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► styles they're different materials are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► different bands and then they wear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► differently they might be in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► angle and what's what's curious is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► they're not there's not a huge color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► palette they're brown black tan and gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/696">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► it's not like any of those people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► wearing a blue hat or certainly not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/703">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► a red hat you know this that they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► very muted but yeah the way the brim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► with the brim is the way that the crown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/712">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► is the way you kinda gret like you grasp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► it with your hands when you're taking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► off and and of the hats that I have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► I have what probably 9 to 12 steps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/723">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► style you know felt vintage felt hats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► that I've come upon in the in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/733">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► particular that really nails it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/738">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► that's my hat I as soon as I saw it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► and all I and when I said in monkey with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/747">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► the other ones and imagine turning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► other ones into this one we're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► it's never right and I can never all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► different you know they're all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/758">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► distinctive because they once belonged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► to somebody and that person from blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► jeans it would be like getting a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► jeans that somebody warned for 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► but oh not just that but somebody it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► like blue jeans that someone had from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► designed a certain way because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/775">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► it's not like hats came out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► factory all uniform and they took on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► these characters characteristics by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► being worn like when you went to the hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/785">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► store you said here's how I want my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► here's how I want my hat steamed and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/790">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► hat person would put the Hat on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► steamer and then they would create and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► shape mold craft sculpt your how so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/800">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► it was to your liking and you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► know you can steam a hat and read redo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► this on it and you can take it happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► that you don't like and take it down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/816">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► the Hat steamer and have it steamed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► and made made again made a new so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/819">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► it was a whole it was like having your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► suits tailored you would have your hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► tailored and that's a thing when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/829">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► when you look at it when you look at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/833">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► cowboy band where everybody on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► including the stage manager including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► the you know the the guy running across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/840">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► the stage dressed all in black with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/841">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► leatherman on his belt and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► maglite all of them are wearing hats in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► these cowboy bands and it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► they might all be black hats but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/853">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► hat i think if these people have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/857">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► class is going to be like yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► a lot of a lot of mexican bands they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► would actually wear uniforms they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► all the same hat and all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/866">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► clothes from top to bottom I labanda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► yeah yeah I think you will find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► there have a special section for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► kind of music do you really yeah the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/877">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► balance of the narco tiros I is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/880">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► I'm i dipped into that just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► but this is going to i'm going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► white guy for a minute just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► getting burritos out here that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► interesting music the production of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► it is extremely I don't capture topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► here going to get back to the hats but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► it's a very interesting style of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► and they do some pretty burning covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► have you ever heard the Banda cover of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► still the one is Wayne but the have nots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► i'm afraid the barber I thought your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► were you were referencing still the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► the old NBC from that wasn't me that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/914">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► work that was player player was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/920">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► you're still the one you can scratch my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/924">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► itch still 12 were still having fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/925">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► you're starting to launch the one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/931">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► that was a that was a popular song on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► the radio and then I think it was NBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► ABC ABC or means it was or liens wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/937">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► ah yeah that was still that was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/947">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► hit song on the radio and then it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► made the ABC television theme right are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► and that was very confusing to me as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► kid because i was like which is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/959">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► well like what's happening this is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► played on AM radio found extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/962">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► yeah I'm still confused me and so so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/966">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► the Hat being I feel like a lot of young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/970">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► tailored because they don't even notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► yeah and so I don't think you get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► onstage with the same hat as your band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► mate but I feel like what that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► produced this I'm getting I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► super down into this now into the weeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► in the Hat weeds who what that produces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► hear you you're going onstage with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► friends here you have decided that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► you're all gonna wear hats and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/996">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► want to wear the same hat but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► understand hats very well you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► understand that you could all go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► and buy the same Indiana Jones happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► just have them steam differently and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► what you end up with is for people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► stage who are wearing hats that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► hot incompatible right so one person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► wearing like a very very small brimmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► Frank Sinatra era trilby hat and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► person's wearing like a flat top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► like a silver buckled mike mccready had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► which is like the bad guy from a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► kind of spaghetti western hat a liner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► which means likely je KOB Khun hat right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► yeah and that you've got like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► wearing a straw boater and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► somebody who wearing like a Robin Hood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► have with the giant feather and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► like you guys don't this isn't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► you just look like you look like a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► catalog of shitty hats you don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► having perhaps doesn't make you a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► so it so that that really irks me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► because that it doesn't feel it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► feel to me like the hat wearers are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► making the hats their own they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► trying to distinguish themselves by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► having I'm an interesting and more an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► interesting style about you going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► for a take on that you give me your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► diagnosis sure not many people what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► know again famously one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► were since what JFK people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► increasingly wearing fewer hats men have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► been wearing hats less as a thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► wear today a hat is a statement in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► unit of itself and of itself but also by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► virtue of the fact that not many dudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► wear hats we have also become less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► nuanced in our understanding of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► Hat signifies or the subtlety of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► particular say looking at six hats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► saying like oh these are actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► different but I couldn't have all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► do you think I mean is something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► like that so let you go on vacation get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► cornrows or maybe get a Hawaiian shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► and you don't really think too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► about it just think you did his a hat i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► investing much in it or you're not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► still participating in hat culture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► over way and and this may be a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► where my desire to understand the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► even little bit in just just a slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► at maybe has clouded my ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► understand that in the 21st century the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► way hats are worn is like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► else in the 21st century it's a complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► undifferentiated Hodge podgy where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► just a checks and polka dots and plaids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► all thrown together and to be even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► remotely interested in the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► this used to mean this or this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► is different from that because of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► change in in history or in tempo or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► the moment that's no longer relevant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► the question is what how do you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► what have you think is cool right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► and you know that that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► maybe i'm being inhibited by my desire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► to have things mean things but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► top hat and that the top hat is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► single thing if you look at top hats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► from 1820 I guess when they first kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► of came on the scene up until the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► top hats of twenties 1920 right I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► I think you'll find president's wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► wearing top hats at formal events i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► to say at least into the twenties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► probably thirties where Woodrow Wilson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► you will you will see him off in a top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► hat but i don't think you'll often see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► maybe oh yeah maybe FDR oh my gosh did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► wear them he did wear them but he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► very fancy guy Harry Truman never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► top hat on so let's just make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► morning right let's make the line FDR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► was a fancy fancy man and war top at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► Harry lot of photos of him and looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► like a silk top hat that mean are using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► more like a fedora looking really smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► I'm sure somebody's gonna pull out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► picture of Harry Truman top able to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► out a lot of things John Wright but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► but all there's a top hat with a top hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► look at that this has Jesse throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► they're beautiful because FDR I that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► that the actual had itself in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► hundred years really really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► evolved and became like a it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► hundred different things so the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► top hat chester a arthur war and the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► hat / where's our like not just the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► they're not they don't even look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► anything like each other if you put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► understand she teaching at a university [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► so so like choosing it looks so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► say so there was a there was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► there was a time in be in the early two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► thousands where the the long winters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► took a photo a band photo where we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► all wearing hats i remember this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► aaron guys were kind of getting big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► it was one of your first like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► gotten big soda sessions now we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► photo your blue shirt with like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► orange background in that I mean we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► also wearing suits sometimes we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► fully under here was a shower showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► wearing a top hat sean was wearing a top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► i remember this when i went with him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► the hat store that day and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► about a hat store these a day's a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► that you're not going to find an elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► silk top hat anymore because they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► situation unless you were like at unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► you read like the opening day of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► the horse track in england right what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► the Derby Day right Jonas calls but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► Darby this a dark dark turban good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► security they say Clark for it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► gonna be a costume it's like me when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► bought a straw boater you go to store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► high-quality straw boater you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► that's right if your straw boater person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► you're not you're not like splitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► hairs over this isn't the straw boater I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► want it's like if you want a straw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► boater and that's what we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► reduced to write if you go to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► or and you want a bowler hat there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► bowler hat even though there are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► history of the bowler hat 25 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► iterations of the bowler sure but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► with Sean we wanted a kind of or rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► Shaun wanted a kind of mad hatter style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► top hat but we've got kind of that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► of swirling four starts out kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► taking gets more tapered physical yeah a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► little bit it's it's got quite a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► paper but not one all the way to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► other type of mad hatter hat that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► would wear if you were going to see he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► allysin chaynes right you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► don't want a beautiful mad hatter hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► that says like I like my my younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► sister is a jungle at this episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► rock on the line is brought to you by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► Casper you learn more about Casper right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► now by going to Casper calm / supertrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► Casper is a sleep brand-new created one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► perfect mattress sold directly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► consumers eliminating Commission driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► its award-winning sleep surface was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► developed in house that has a sleek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► design and is delivered in a small how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1496">TS</a>]
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00:25:14 ◼ ► dealing with resellers and showrooms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1514">TS</a>]
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00:25:18 ◼ ► consumer far as the quality this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► mattress what can we say an in-house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► team of engineers spent thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► hours developing the Casper combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► supportive memory foams for a sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1525">TS</a>]
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00:25:29 ◼ ► and just the right balance plus it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► breathable design sleep school to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1532">TS</a>]
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00:25:44 ◼ ► night home trial if you don't love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► everything because cast for understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► the importance of truly sleeping on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► especially considering that's how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► gonna spend about a third of your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► Casper is an obsessively engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1556">TS</a>]
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00:26:20 ◼ ► everything Casper mattress is designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► developed and assembled in the USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► let me tell you something right now as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► we speak as this episode goes up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► is a casper mattresses out for delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► to my home because you know what i did i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► bought my daughter her own Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► mattress she kept asking my wife and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► if we could please cut our king-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► casper mattresses in half and give her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► so I got her very own so today we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► gonna have another member of the Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1608">TS</a>]
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00:27:06 ◼ ► to Casper calm / supertrain once again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1626">TS</a>]
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00:27:12 ◼ ► Casper for supporting rod on the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► and all the great shows you want one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► that says that you are like Tom Petty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► mhm during the period when Tom Petty was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► wearing a top hat which Tom Petty did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► for a while before / even Tom had he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► rocking the top and he was the he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► that I think the modern rock top hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► he lit the fuse and tanya and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► Sean was a a you know he's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► like a I am formidable person he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► formidable hair and he needed a hat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► could that that projected a happiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► right you're not gonna you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► show is not gonna wear a trilby and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► it do anything but make that make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► Hat ashamed of itself right that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► hat is going to slink off and say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► not a big I'm not enough of a hat for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► this person and the top hat was so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► on Shawn that he wore it periodically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► there are some there are some shots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► us playing live not just once but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► multiple times with Sean wearing a top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► hat and the rest of us weren't wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► hats are in any kind of costume other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► than just our Rock clothes she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► wearing a top hat and I liked it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► know it was it looks good like him a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► of the time when when when a rock person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► effects a weird thing and my feeling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► not quite but this top hat on Sean I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► like absolutely usually wear it everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► i think not i just sent you a photo i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► found off the internet of this when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► photo shoots Eric swearing like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► amelia earhart aviator helmet you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► a what you call yours is not a Homburg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► use it is a number i would i would call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► it a Homburg Michael is wearing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► appears to be a wig and the outsider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► yeah the wig the wig belongs to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► the brown hat belongs to me Michael did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► not a did not have those things in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► own good for Mike library good i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► funny as at that point you know up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► I don't want to i don't i don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► no we usually redact this yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► Michael had you know Michael had only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► recently shaved his head and him greatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► had been liberated because shaving your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► head now you're now you are not any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► concerned about what's going on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► remember that 12 hours after we met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► Chris camellia shape too set in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► oh right that he was going through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► real phase then we want to keep it tidy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► don't know did I retire we were driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► through a bad a desert on the way home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► from a tour we played our last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► and the crib and everybody else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► asleep i'm driving chris is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► passenger seat he said pull over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► will you take milk you know this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► UFO country and I see your gotta go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► the bathroom and he said no i just i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► like you to pull over i think im gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► walk home from here and I said said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► Chris the middle of the night in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► middle of a desert not gonna let you out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► to walk home it would it would take you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► five months he was like I really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► really feel like that's what I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► do I really feel like right now I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► you to pull over and I want you to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► I was like you know winnemucca is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► six-day walk from here and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► nothing between here and there except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► UFOs then I talked him out of it but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► was sincere if I pulled over he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► have gotten out with his bag like he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► very he wasn't like let me out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► drunk he wasn't mad he was just like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► gonna get out here and obviously he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► wouldn't have died he would have finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► figured out and put his thumb out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► hitchhiked to win market probably about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► a bus ticket but maybe he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► walked who knows but yeah at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► in your kitchen was like I'm shaving my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► head right now but I'm sorry I should've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► said he was sooo shading Michael said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► oh I see what you're saying he shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► yeah I feel like I remember this pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► clearly and really thinking hard seems a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► little familiar for known each other 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► hours my kitchen I see what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► saying for my children play but but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► about Chris I chris is a delight I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► he was a handful he was he was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► very quick very very funny i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► how you guys made it with you and Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► and Sean in that same van that is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► personalities i mean not the other guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► don't have it but like those it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► and you and Sean were enough but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► chris and the next thing as a wild-card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► man with an amazing thing about Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► in the nineties in seattle Chris was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► regarded as funny you know it wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► thing that he would have said he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► he'd never projected like I'm the funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► one right and when it was a we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► culture here of people that were doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► lot of of playwriting and there were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► lot of actors there was a lot of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► interesting group of multi talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► people that were doing all kinds of art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► and Chris was not really he was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► deeply in the mix but he but he he never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► said like I'm funny I'm doing funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► things he was sort of you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1974">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► let's let's put it let's put it how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► is he was the handsome One and he worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► as a bartender downtown and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► charming and he had a lot of girlfriends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► and his charm was was pretty quick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► know somebody would come up to the bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► and they'd say something snarky to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► bartender and Chris could put them he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► could put him away but again he wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► you know like I'll I month I'm funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► Chris was a friend of mine and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► thought like oh chris is really much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► competition in the funny department but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► we got on the road and I think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► as much a revelation for him as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► for the rest of us and Chris all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► sudden uh it seemed out of nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► revealed this incredible talent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► storytelling comedic voices comedic like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► personalities such that he could take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► I mean we could get drive for five hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► and Chris would just be doing a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► one man performance the entire time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► though and Sean and I so so part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► the dynamic between me and Sean was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► we you know we were both we were both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► funny but also we're trying to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► deep were we were you know we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► having critical discussions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► critical thought blah blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► blah and Chris just cut through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► like a hot blade because chris just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► an hour of a he basically we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► driving through the desert he would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► like well this is you know Bob Jenkins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► Arizona northern Arizona radical radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► and he would just do like a radiant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► a talk radio guy from the location we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► were in the appropriate voice and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► be and as though you were listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► the radio and we would all Sean and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► could do was periodically be like ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► you know it's a like it's a collar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► ends and Chris would take the call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► like wow let's go ahead caller and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► would have something we'd give some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► of we try to throw some tennis ball in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► there and he would just very definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► take our call and handle and it was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► we would like to tears streaming down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► their faces and I had known chris at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► that point for 10 years and I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► seen it before and no one I know had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► I don't think Chris had we drove around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► for a year where you couldn't wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► get into the truck and well and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► situation where you would think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► Sean and I were always jockeying for who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► was in a jockey for top dog but Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► just blew the whole thing out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► water Christmas was faster than Sean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► faster than me faster than this both but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► there wasn't any real resentment or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► competition in it because he was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► well that you could shine the chanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► city absolutely Sean fella Sean fell in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► love with him and and it's hard and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► think it's hard for Shawn to fall in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► love with with somebody that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► operating at that kind of level and sean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► just I mean just loved loved loved him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► so it was a tragedy that Chris couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► stay in the band because he really made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► those i just made those miles disappear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► and was a source of a lot of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► like real joy not just a distraction not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► just like law but he he was tapped into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► you've tapped into some bigger thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► we're just did they must have been such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► a gift at certain times I just I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► imagine the drudgery of what that trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► could be sometimes if things weren't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► know it was an incredible gift and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► and it caused me to realize like why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► had been such a successful bachelor like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► looking back 10 years before I did hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► Chris in 1993 because you'd be sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► in a baby sitting at a table talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► somebody that you wanted to check on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► bird heebie-jeebie jam somebody up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► Chris would walk through and he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► never see it's not like you'd steal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► somebody from right underneath you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► but he'd come in and out and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► other crazy thing he wouldn't sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► across the table from you and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► the brightest light and everyone flock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► to him it didn't work that way he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► just be sitting over there and my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► his seduction was all done in whispers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► you never knew what he was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► through because somebody would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► we'd be sitting there and crystalline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► over to go buzz buzz buzz in their ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► and they would go and then they leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► and you're like what the hell does he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► say things like that and and so so later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► on I realized like all he you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► he was saying what in their ear with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► something probably pretty amazing but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► never he never showed this until until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► this period of just a couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► where where he was barking through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► sky and and that and the problem was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► there wasn't really an opportunity for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► him to step up to the microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► and do this routine and he wasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► comfortable in on the microphone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► know like it if he had an opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► join in that kind of thing that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► onstage banter right in front of a crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► he didn't that wasn't where he wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► be he didn't like it there and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► in the van every day like always got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► know we have to make a TV show about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► we have to like we're just strategizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► how do we get you in front of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► you're the world's greatest actor you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► any voice and after he left the band he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► went to New York City he joined an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► improv theater group he joined likes UCB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► what's really but uh huh never made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► above the like the level of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► were paying to take classes at UCB right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► and he talked a couple classes at UCB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► successful improv group while he's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► handsome look at him he's very handsome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► guy and he went to as a great great hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► the greatest he had great hair when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► was when he was young and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► completely jet black and then as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► started to get song pepper it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► it never stopped being great my great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► uncle my great uncle Truman who was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► the Merchant Marines had the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► hair he was German was 85 years old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► his hairline had not budged an inch from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► when he was 15 years old just look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► a just look like a washer brush like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► like a badger brush anyway I met Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► was one of my closest friends for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► time and I haven't talked to him in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► couple years don't know what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► with him like somehow it wasn't somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► that pressure cooker of being in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► van and I think part of the pressure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► being in that van was that Shawn Nelson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► was there and that i was there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► that was a that was a kind of audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► but if i could if i if i could put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► tape the that year and a half in the van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► you know it was it was a I got something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► I can't quite account for you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► you meet people and you feel like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► you are like I i know you Marilyn and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► we went on a road trip together and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► cracked me up the entire time i would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► have an idea of what that would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► right you could crack me up the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► time and but I know what it would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► huh but I didn't see this coming in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► was somebody had known for years and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► was my roommate for Christ's sake for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► three years but i didn't i have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► seen this before this and it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► he wasn't himself he was still himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► he just all of a sudden just had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► power of complete mimicry and the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► improvisation and character I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► this is a phenomenon that you could most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► succinctly summarized as just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► you can crack up your frat brothers is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► no guarantee that you would be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► stand-up comedian for many many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► reasons and we started tackling that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► realize how complicated all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► are there are some people who crack up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► their friends who could potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► become a comedy writer you could become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► like a comedy producer and this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► just true for comedy stripper music is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► true for lots of things but it's it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► rare to be able to take it let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► stick with comedy for a minute but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► take that skill of being funny to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► around you and convert that into being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► funny professionally month stage or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► screen because it takes this totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► different skill I mean there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► totally different like x factor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► goes beyond knowing how to crack up John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► and sean and you know Erica Michael and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► I mean and it's but it's it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► it's right there could feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► right there just like slightly out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► reach but then you realize oh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► there's there's the the grind of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► to get into a group like that or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► having to make this decision to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► just a really good interview with Keegan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► you know the guy from can deal w about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► how he basically they're asking like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► we decided to go to MADtv rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► something else likes a sound like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► like well as money like they were paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► better at that man TV and that is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► where he ended up working even working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► with um his partner and doing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► writings writing sketches together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► I don't know that this is a topic that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► was found so interesting and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► expand it way beyond comedy comedy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► where I feel like one of the places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► most strongly is that what what a leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► is to go from cracking up your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► to doing this for a living and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► it's true for music i think is true it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► could be true for writing it's just is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► true for so many things and I wonder how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► often people who have succeeded with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► something could even like go to a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► school and give a talk on how it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► they were able to make it big because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► bet there's so many ineffable qualities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► and micro decisions that would be almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► impossible for that person to identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► well i think i think you're right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► number of guitar players I've known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► between the time that I first started on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► guitar players let's say I was 15 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► it's funny that i never i never knew a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► kid that was 10 years old and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► already a virtuoso the first guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► players i was even aware of i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► freshman year in high school I knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► there were there were guitar players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► that you mean it was the thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► could actually do it wasn't just on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► but by 15 I like new guitar players i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► owned a guitar but from that point until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► the present day I have known so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► guitar players and so many of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► amazing amazing musicians and amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► even like songwriters who couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► you couldn't get to a situation couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► get two of two a position where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► like let alone you got a good man that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► look like they couldn't even put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► together to get into a good band they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► either kept trying to make kept trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► to flog bands with a fatal flaw or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► bounced from one band of the next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► couldn't ever settle in somewhere or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► wanted the band to be really centered on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► them but they were missing a crucial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► skill like singing and you and you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► like then there are those few instances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► where you're sitting with somebody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► they start to walk that idly hum along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► whoa I didn't know you could sing uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► you know sing along with the radio no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► you have an incredible voice and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► happens over i was in an eyewitness I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► regret to this day not seek not doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► better job of corralling this person but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► I was in one of those something called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► rock lottery we get started in Austin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► but we had 11 in Seattle and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► maybe it's still ongoing but what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► happen is they would invite a dozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► musicians across a wide spectrum of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► instruments and ability and put them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► together you know divide them up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► like the groups of five and more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► two dozen musicians like hear your five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► of you your five of you like there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► bass players a clarinetist a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► playing hand drums and opera singer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► responsible for writing a song and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► singing in at the end or performing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► the end of the day it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► interesting it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► that's interesting to do and interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► I'm not sure that if it was happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► the garage of the house across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► street right now I would go over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► to watch my guess I probably would it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► would be noisy i would have to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► it but I i participated in one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► and one of the other groups so at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► end concert were watching the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► it was like oh yeah that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► interesting you guys had a you guys had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► a sermon player has something bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► something he's wearing a hat but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► was one of the bands that had a a singer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► ma and he was a guy that just looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► punky guy also wearing a hat and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► leather jacket and seemed like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► to smoke a lot of cigarettes and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► seemed fun but he started to sing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► just saw the future of music and Emma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► like you're the most rock'n'roll person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► i ever saw and it wasn't that she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► that rocket looking it was just that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► voice it came out and I was like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► to start a band with you I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► the I want to be the guitar player in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► your band and I don't want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► anything complicated i want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► three chords every song is three chords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► because it's all it would need I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► loud guitar behind you while you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► whatever it is and I went up to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► afterwards I was like wow you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► incredible who do you play for and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► named tsombe and that I hadn't heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► him that I haven't heard of now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► was like wow I really love to a year get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► together sometime or like just to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► for coffee or something and he he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► kind but he was he very much had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► like I'm i'm pretty happy with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► my band the lampshades sounds like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► well cool i mean still you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► should hang out he was like how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► should totally do that maybe wasn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► he was condescending he was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► pretty much saw a lot of you just saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► what he saw his future in the lampshades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► and I really wish I'd gotten his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► because it's because in music it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► always changes right six months later he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► might have been like I wonder who that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► guy was i'd really like to get in touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► but it doesn't happen very often where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► you see somebody that has that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► gift that no one has you know that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► gift and it's like they just stepped off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► the bus from Spokane in Hollywood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► they're like which way do i turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► yeah I want to make it in the big town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► and you want to be the creep in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► powder blue link on Mel is parked across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► the street from the bus station was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► they need a ride a ride in a hot meal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► but I I i know i think i know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► you're talking about and is funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► when you think about how you would in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► some ways how you this is very cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► but how you could reverse-engineer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► success out of a lot of careers you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► a person who is humble easy to get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► opportunities to be helpful constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► improves their craft is open to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► and accepting but I you think about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► what like what makes people successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► yeah whether you know whether it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► guitar player or an actuarial or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► whatever there's these certain qualities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► that you see and lots of people they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► not be considered the name Abraham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► Lincoln of what they do but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► somebody that everybody could look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► and go oh that person's a pleasure to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► with and was great to work with them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► know you somebody like you talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► christina aquilera how she's always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► hardest working person in the room so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► you take all those kinds of qualities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► i'm probably missing some missing a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► but anybody who has to do work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► other people and in kind of changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► situations the kind of qualities you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► would want everybody it would almost be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► better to engineer this this super race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► of terminators of people who had all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► those qualities and then teach them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► guitar or give them voice lessons or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► these other things because in all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► sometimes it's just reluctant or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► seeing that that's who you are who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► could be but so often it's like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► know it's really if you really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► about what we do instead it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► wow I somehow accidentally got really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► good at guitar so you know why am I not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► in the rock and roll hall of fame was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► like what did you check all those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► boxes because all these other things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► yeah I think about this quite a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► right because we're just think about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► our good friend Lindsey Buckingham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► yeah who by all accounts is a miserable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► awful person to not just work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► mirror sounds very very unpleasant if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► you've seen that documentary of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► Fleetwood Mac getting back together some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► getting back together documentary I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► where they're working on some album in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► recent times and lindsey is just I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► you can't even stand to be you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► have to avert your eyes from the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► while he's on this because you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► there's so much bad blood in that band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► for so many very good reasons that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► such an act of graciousness just to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► be in a room with each other that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► you would all just so you all want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► on your best behavior and say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► bygones be bygones and let's just let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► just agree not to be assholes with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► other for a few days and I try to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► this thing and there's a camera in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► and yet all through all the years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► like Fleetwood Mac gossip of course i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► always thought that Stevie next would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► the difficult one right she's dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► around in the end of thousands carbs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► and sing about Rhiannon like she's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► to be the high maintenance person but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► watching these documentaries you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► Stevie Nicks is amazing she's the sole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► of like patient professionalism and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► Lindsey Buckingham is driving me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► everyone else crazy and they are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► to great lengths to accommodate him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► yet here he is this incredible guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► player and great not only pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► pushing his personality into the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► of everything and this is the this is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► not an invalid line of questioning which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► is that in our contemporary world we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► taking it as as a as read that what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► should be doing with our kids and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► inner culture at large is removing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► obstacles for friendly good-natured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► students we should be removing from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► we should be removing obstacles from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► path of young people so that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► have to confront adversity in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► way that we did right we we no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► put our cigarettes out on our children's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► arms who like but that's how John bender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► became John bender right John bender was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► the coolest guy in the breakfast club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► okay it's just because nobody else had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► that nobody's father never put a cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► out on them it's gonna make an omelet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► you gotta break some kids right here so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► but but the question is like Lindsey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► Buckingham is awful john lennon was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► awful and would those people in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► people now have been kicked had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► bumped out of whatever their career path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► was at a much earlier time by people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► saying you are awful your novel bully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► your ear and you're a mean person and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► you're not going to be given this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► opportunity or we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► privileged nglish at your behavior over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► your talent and so were dissing cluding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► you and we're including you know Joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► good-nature over here but what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► missing is the what ends up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► neutering the art is the discomfort the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► the missing discomfort the missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► frisian and what you end up is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► you would end up with is this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► like gray nutritive pace of music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► culture that I think we're eat work even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► now starting to see like the very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► very few people who are really burning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► bright in that way where where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► they're so captivated be so captivating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► because they're on this bike path of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► self-destruction that you see like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► god they're going to create or so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► and then they don't you know like button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► even a nile rodgers or whatever in 1978 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► he was it not on the path that we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► of he's on now right he was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► just not he wasn't a bad guy but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► your people a lot of a lot of material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► out there to continue living hard so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► so I don't know i mean i-i you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► want to and obviously you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► can't reverse engineer you can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► like oh let's if you sit in this chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► you pretty as your finger with a needle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► everyday for an hour that will give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► the the association with pain it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► give you the familiarity with pain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► will allow you to write meaningful music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► or make meaningful art but but we we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► right now is it in a in a moment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► human culture where we are hostile to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► pain and and devoting a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► amount of energy to relieve pain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► suffering from from as at from as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► people as we can to to the as guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► greater degree as we can and painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► strong a word because I mean you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► think it's normal to say like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► make it to have an infection and die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► it's nothing to say like I don't watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► but-but-but yeah there is that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► that weird world between infection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► death and inconvenience but i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► is all happening you know just always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► gets into the things like we've in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► quotes bad words this is yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► larger issue of like nothing should ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► come along that makes you feel that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► in my daughter's class there is a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► who at a certain point just this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► went through a kind of looking glass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► by all accounts before was a very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► person and now is it is a hitter and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► school district doesn't know what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► well-equipped I mean this isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► first time this has happened and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► have a lot of they have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► and one of them is a weighted vest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► one of them is uh an employee of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► school that comes into the class and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► you know an assistant to deal with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► kid and I know the kid and he's a he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► oh you can see he's a lovely little boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► and he actually there is something going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► on he does not want to hit he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► want to be a he doesn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► having this experience a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► to understand i don't appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► about you know these problem kids is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► like you can just see the misery of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► like being run by some kind of clockwork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► yeah something's inside him redone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► his his parents never saw it before so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► they don't know how to deal with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► it only happened when he went to school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► for the first time he and so hit but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► we're in a situation where my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► comes home from school every day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► says well you know I got hit again as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► he's hitting everybody how God and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► nobody wants to be around him but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► also a nice kid him and people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► play with him but what it what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► happening ultimately is that everyone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► the class is being affected by like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► are getting they are having an inferior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► experience of school because a component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► of being in school is that you might get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► hit at any time by this kid and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► disrupting learning and so here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► we're in this problem of like to at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► point is he removed from school at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► point is he sequestered at what point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► he put into a into a box of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► unredeemable but by the same token do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► all the other kids have a have a right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► to be able to be in school and not feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► like they're gonna get hit and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► he's not like a he's not a big kid he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► a small kid he's just like they did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► just happens right here and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► every parent in the school and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► given the makeup of of this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► astonishing to me the amount of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► general sort of class-wide patience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► everybody has their is necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► yeah there is no parent that I've about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► that iÃve yet experienced in this group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► he's like my child is having their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► education affected and I want this dealt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► with now everybody's just like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► let's see what let's see what let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► well we're three-quarters of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► through the school year and when I talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► to my daughter about it I and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► think back on my own childhood you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► there were kids that hit me later kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► that their kids that hit and you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► ultimately like the amount that her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► education is being affected by it i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► like there's another side of that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► is that she's getting an education in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► the fact that that there are people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► hit and then nobody else knows what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► do like the grown-ups don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► solution and this is painful it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► painful for him it's painful for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► everybody and it's one of the it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► of the things and and the adults that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► feel like they should i mean and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► in a lot of other cases and it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► just be that we have a very lucky group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► of 22 parents where everybody is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► everybody recognizes that the depth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► the of the complication you could be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► a lot of other schools and there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► be some crusader who demanded that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► was something done or or somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► the in the school administration office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► this got put into the file folder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► bullying who which we've all agreed is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► no-tolerance thing and then this kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► becomes tagged as somebody that needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► not just like special accommodation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► three in traditional yeah and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► and so on but but what we're what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► history there is a 56 year old kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► yes six years old yeah um or-or-or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► he needs to be medicated like profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► medicated to a you know in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► survive in in order that he be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► six-year-old in this context where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► listen to stories learn to use scissors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► you know learn your alphabet who in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► order to do that he needs to be on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► kind of like cocktail of drugs and so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► we're just trying to we're just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► to be in this on this Ark hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► every year there won't be another kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► who is like who makes you scared but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► there's always going to be a kid that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► a problem there maybe are a couple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► one of the things that you learn when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► you have a kid that hits is don't stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► too close to him or don't be next to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► without being aware that he might hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► you at any point like be his friend be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► nice to him but keep one aisle and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► aren't necessarily bad lessons you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► it's not what you would want its what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► you're everything you're describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► their I feel like somebody who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► neighborhoods you know one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► i found challenging for a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► adulthood is just on the superclass of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► issues i'm going to call dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► neighbors so that would be people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► could be your roommate in college it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► could be people in the adjacent room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► people above people below but people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► do not have control over and people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► you can just press a button and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► them change even if they are quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► unquote wrong in your eyes and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► times and to get your head right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► this you think everybody's wrong it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► not doing it the way you want you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► they're they're using their car at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► you put out their trash wrong about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► these all these grievances that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► come up with because maybe and I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► speaking for myself maybe because I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► very accustomed to be able being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► control my environment and have recourse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► a certain kind of privilege if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► and I think that's one thing we're what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► complicated especially with little kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► we're not talking about somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► in 10th Grade and setting fire bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► we're talking it sounds like this sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► very similar to what happens at my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► school which there are little kids that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► are mm they're different they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► not they're not govern herbal in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► that everybody would like them to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► as you say so what is solution we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► them in the brown reading group do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► fill him full of drugs like what do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► do but that to me that's that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► one place where like it's been a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► superclass of issues that i will call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► neighbors because I felt like who i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► would do you like Yosemite Sam like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► you've got to stop being that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► like no they don't have to stop being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► thankfully if you grow up amidst lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► and lots of people living a 24-hour life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► in a way that doesn't comport with yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► understanding that well you know I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► put in earplugs or i can move or I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► do these other things but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► pushing a rope to try and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► everybody to conform to your idea of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► that behavior should go and in the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► of the poor people your school and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► poor people in my school I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► really at least two problems one problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► disruptive and potentially dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► gotta deal with that he said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► government apart is the hard part get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► one kid in class like that I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► sympathetic to this because these poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► people are just at sixes and sevens with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► the resources they have to get one kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► like that in a class it's a pain in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► ass when I want you to kids like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► yeah we get two and a half three kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► like that in the class and pretty soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► that teacher is spending sixty to eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► percent of their time just being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► yeah right and that any other the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► kids are just going to their fingernails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► and that's not why we sent him to school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► not getting noticed let alone rewarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► for the fact that they're not punching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► somebody else or you know so i might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► responsibilities here is is that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► like everybody's trying to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► what to do with this little boy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► and everyone is taxed because of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► things that you're saying you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► change him you can't take him out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► you can't you can't add adapt the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► school to him but what i can do is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► be a problem in the sense that i can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► it as a teaching experience for my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► and we can you know and and you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4015">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► want to say like I'm sending my kid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► this school and now i'm in a position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► where we're trying to make the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► it but in fact that's what you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► doing in every situation you send your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► kid to the public school and you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► everybody in the school is friendly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► just your kids getting educated or mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► nobody's getting a tailored experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► and in this situation there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► other this other issue and if it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► a little boy if there was a if there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► a radiator in the class that everyday at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► 145 suddenly went on with no and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► temperature of the room went up 202 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► there are lots of kids in America that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► are in a classroom like that and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► was just that right across the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► from your kids elementary school was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► guy with the jackhammer that for an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► month-and-a-half that's also something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► that's happening in schools across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► America and so in this situation i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► trying to help that little boy and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► family and the school and my own kid by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► saying yeah you know what sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► gotta eat sometimes it's the neighbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► problem and your neighbor put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► passive-aggressive notes tape to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► garbage you have to realize they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► going to change and so don't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► yourself be in a situation where you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► hit by this kid how about that it sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► but it's better than and you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► look at what would you advise be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► something like what are you gonna do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► stop writing public transit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► occasionally there's somebody out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► on their acting erratically and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► not talking about bombs going off every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► occasional interactions with people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► are who you can control their doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► things you don't like and scare you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► and in that case I mean the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► I feel like we're now over a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► hump where there is at least at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► level I'm surprised I i went into public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► school thinking that we were stead the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► that the other parents and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► we're going to be kind of as I imagined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► they were 10 to 15 years ago where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► would have been addressed with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► over action that there that this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► have been an emergency situation it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► would have been a situation where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► the parents of the child were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► over examined like super launching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► proletariat turns into something must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► done about this now my Chum you my child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► is in this school too and is being you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► know harassed and bullied and subjected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► to physical violence by this other kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► and I want redress you know all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► stuff that I imagined was what was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► on in the school's 10 years ago because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► i remember then you know I lived through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► those years and I thought that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► what what is how it would be now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► feel like there is because of the ebb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► reintroduced into these institutions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► I think it's largely because the parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► different place some reality and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► sense of like you know what yeah this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► just how it is and and when we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► recognize that there are limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► resources and we all recognize that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► is a real this is just one of the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► challenges of life and so nobody's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► go to prison and nobody's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► put on ritalin we're just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► figure out a workaround here and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► know what's funny is when I come into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► the teacher will often say hey will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► go over and just give him a really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► strong hug right now I'm the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► because I liked him but I wasn't sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► that was even allowed she was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► I think that he I can feel him like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► building up and I think what he needs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► a big strong hug from a big man this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► it this is a thing and I was like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► okay and so I went over and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► come on in and he was like huh and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► wrapped him up and give him like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► bear you're a good guy you know and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► could just feel him like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► you just wanted he just wanted somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► that was way bigger than he was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► envelop him for a sec you see the temple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► grandin movie with the claire danes now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► I you know last night I was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► Claire Danes movie called homeland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► melancholia melancholia uh-huh and Emily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► hearings in the movie she invents a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► machine for like basically squeezing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► herself and they're trying to throw out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► of school because if they get some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► of a sex thing I think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► the lot of thought on this now also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► thought about getting a weighted blanket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► because we have as its under best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► thought I thought about I mean because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4318">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► i think that will call me down a lot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► when I'm anxious when I sleep I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► having a way to blank would help but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► think I think there's a lot to that a to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► well the swaddling is basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► swaddle your ass and I think there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► lot of people probably listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► program for right now thinking is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► a way that i could find something in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► own house to swallow myself with right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► now sucks modeling just yeah you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► everything is a weighted blanket yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► i'm i'm betting you don't have one now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► look into it it's hard to get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► amazon prime because they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► yeah right i mean that's thing shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► its shipping that's consistently get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► yeah that's how the kitchen but uh but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► do feel like i do feel like part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► being sane and raising a child in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► is to not expect that there's a solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► to every problem to not expect that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► are going to get perfect redress for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► every complaint and that's and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► like that maybe was the philosophy for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► while there and that is that it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► it you know that where we are now is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► product of having been through that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► seen oh we're not going to go back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► playground and was like physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► torturing your child but we're also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► going to take every kid that brings like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► that every kid that sits out on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► we're not gonna immediately put him into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► protective custody here like I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► to be circumspect about this cuz I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► think when you get into these issues it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► is helpful to think about privilege i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► really i really do because one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► you're saying there is like I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► was making a really good point here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► about like you know how you get redress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► there's that term they use I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► a legal term they say to be made whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► which is the idea that somebody has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► something or cause something to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► to you that has taken money from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► it's taking usually money but sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► something from you and now there has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► be some way to make sure that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► made right that you are essentially made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► whole meaning so i can one example well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► if you're working in a mine and you lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► an arm just hypothetically because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► company was careless about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► well you can't give me my arm back but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► compensate for the fact that you took my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► arm that's gonna have a huge impact on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► my life now what we're going to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► right but then idea i think that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► idea that you talk about it like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► a baseline of like we need to get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► to my normal i think that is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► privileged position and people are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► aware of it is like what he listened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► what is the rest of the world going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► comfortable about how all this works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► right to me this is just a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► angles here into this whole like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► know whether it's making America great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► again which is essentially this idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► let's go back to a time when everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► but white people had a reason to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► scared when we could we could demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► that we be made whole and everybody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► to capitulate to that because reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► I don't know I just and I do agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► what you're saying also we're like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► kids in school for certain number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► years uh it's feels so different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► when i was a kid i got my just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► I'm an old man now but like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► there's just so many things that seem so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► different and there does seem to be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► hysteria about almost everything that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► expected what it is for parents or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► whether that's from the teachers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► faculty the faculty and the staff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► there's just less hysteria about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► gratified by its it's so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► than I expected because i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► dealing with adults you're not dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► with a slightly advantage children who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► are wondering how they're getting ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► yeah yeah I i really i really did expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► that i was going to sit in a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► parents and say like well you know kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► will be kids and they would all go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► no kids will not be kids anymore and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► fact everyone's just like yeah I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► to make cake pops to make them all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► appease them but they're monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► I was like yeah high fives all around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► right cakepops don't solve anything do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► I i feel i feel like when i hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► mentality i just i reflected his pickup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► that just pick up that just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► and it's completely it's crazy is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► it is is like I think about so all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► you and you're like you're getting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► olive oils father in the world owes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► it seems like it seems from what i hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► is to people in divorce court and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► yeah and if you think about be number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► of uh of divorces where that feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► that i'm going to be made whole and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► gonna take it out of of my partner were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► splitting up and i'm going to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► whole and and the acrimony that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► into a divorce when in fact everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► got about what their do right like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► you're breaking up and it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► question even of money like you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► or you're sad and you want you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► feel like your arm got locked off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► you've lost all sympathy for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► partner and so you're going to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► whole and and the divorce takes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► takes a path where what could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► I mean it's like the it's like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► partition of Palestine or whatever there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► was a moment when arafat could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► signed the piece of paper and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► would have been happy but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► there was a solution their bill clinton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► was standing there with his fucking hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► full of milk and it was like we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► here it is here's the plan we all agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► on this we've been working on this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► this is it here it is this is the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► and Arafat was like but if I do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► won't be popular with the you-know-what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► the with my little gang and so nope i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► not going to do it and then it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► that was the one chance in history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► and you blew it because you wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► made whole in a way that you couldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► there was never a way to actually work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► for peace as peaceful solution here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► also for everyone to get what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► and particularly for you to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► whole naked network nobody getting yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► and and I think about all the divorces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► that happen where it's like you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► there you both acknowledged like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► it were done like you get the car i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► the boat who hears our visitation here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► like the you know here's how it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► splits up but you want me to say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► was wrong or you want or I'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► to leave here until you shake my hand or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► continuous festivus and it's time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► the airing of grievances here's all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► things that I have been storing up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► tolerating for years and i wanted i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► to give you this excel spreadsheet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► emotional brokenness then I want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► through each item and explain it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► apologize and pay me for it right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► entering into the court record and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► that point what could have been a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► largely amicable solution to what is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► problem of two people splitting up goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► into a thing where it will it can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► be repaired and it was over nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► it was over something symbolic or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► desire to be made to to have a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► that cannot be redressed be made right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► and in in a and I try to I try to see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► every conflict now and particularly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► know since I'm since i'm now receiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► treatment for mental illness and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► like is there a way to be made right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► no because time has passed i can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► look we're putting a band-aid on a wound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► that healed or scarred years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► yeah like no I no amount of neosporin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► going to fix that wound i was at a i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► at a music commission meeting the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► day and one of the one of the magazine's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► here in town that the weeklies wrote an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► article about the music Commission and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► that article made the music Commission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► visible for the first time to people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► the larger community were like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► there's music Commission and so we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4827">TS</a>]
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01:20:57 ◼ ► they sit down and you have great alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4857">TS</a>]
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01:21:12 ◼ ► public comments and several people got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► up who were members of a protected class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4876">TS</a>]
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01:21:33 ◼ ► several people who gave little speeches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► but two of them gave and they worked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► concert with one another they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► a little a team one got up and gave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► excoriated the music commission for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► things that we can do nothing about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4908">TS</a>]
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01:21:54 ◼ ► very emotional long presentations about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► how it was all our fault about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4919">TS</a>]
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01:22:01 ◼ ► was music commission until that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► article came out the week before so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4923">TS</a>]
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01:22:08 ◼ ► heavy and it's emotional in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► the Chairman feels like I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► interrupt because this seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► cathartic for you or like maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4935">TS</a>]
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01:22:19 ◼ ► thing and at one point one of the women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► said in the in the height of her fury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► about palvin justices she said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4945">TS</a>]
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01:22:33 ◼ ► and now i'm standing here leaning on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4953">TS</a>]
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01:22:42 ◼ ► the power to see really buried the lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4962">TS</a>]
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01:22:56 ◼ ► these e-mails back and forth from music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► commissioners like all apologizing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► each other because no one knew what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► do and it was like hey you know you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMGobnA/4981">TS</a>]
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