02: “White Leather Carpet”
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hello hi John how are you I'm all Merlin
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how are you know pretty well i just i
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had some food i had a chili dog
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no really I had limited time and limited
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time and I had to go through i had to
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approach that fork in the road
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do I going hungry or do I go in Chile
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you approach the fork in the chili dog
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yeah I love a chili dog but i'm i'm glad
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you mentioned that will get you that
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mentioned it but I'm confirming which
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one which one of you again
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uh-huh you're the star on the sidekick
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right let me go back to how much i love
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a chili dog your Merv Griffin I'm Arthur
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Treacher you don't even get that you're
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not even old enough to know that is
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Arthur Treacher his fish and chips to
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oh I know you're right i don't know I'm
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okay but I know who murdered Griffin is
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he kidding me who gets the river and
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spit merv griffin is a lesser Johnny
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Carson griffin's a rich man you know how
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rich he is he's richly Jesus he's rich
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he started the dating game
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hang on i think it can only produce the
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dating Jeffrey ethic and everything else
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that's Chuck Barris Chuck Barris which
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always in the sea is merv griffin right
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now Chuck Barris was in the CIA but I
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think Merv Griffin was that I think Merv
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Griffin was Chuck Paris's mentor I mean
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all of this conjecture can be dismissed
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with one click of the internet I don't
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think that's accurate
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I i think it's like in England you got
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the shadow cabinet i think Merv Griffin
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is the shadow cabinet right I Paris
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that's what that's what I'm saying
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Merv Griffin controls seventies
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television i agree i am the one who
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brought up chili dogs
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I i try to prepare for these things
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apart from eating but while I was eating
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a chili dog i wrote down I wrote down
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some ideas for things I wanted to talk
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to you about know me I read something to
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let's hear them ok well here's the thing
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i first of all step 0
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I don't want you to feel the need to
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respond to any of these and
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just going to these are things i'm
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throwing out there okay put them in the
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air you can choose to answer any of
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these anyway you want you could just say
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you know I think we're planning to talk
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about without picking topics but it's
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really more for my personal interest in
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no I know how I know how this goes I
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mean over the years I've gotten many
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many phone calls from you where you had
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something very important to say i don't
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think you can always tell that you could
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tell that was album revolver and you
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needed to talk to somebody about it
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right you had used up all your other
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friends why didn't they put paperback
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oh ok that's number five from across
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ok alright let's do the list ok these
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are potential topics and I don't want
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you to feel any inclination because i
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know you're not really you're gonna feel
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in client like you do thats that's one
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of the problems I'm already feeling less
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ok then what topic lunch chili
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it's not a huge fan okay see I think I
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know you okay so that's I'm gonna put a
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check next to that as a potential
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remember how do you make your own chili
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because i know you make a lot of your
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own foods I think chili is a lot like
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barbecue for white people i think it
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differs a lot from place to place and
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people are very territorial about it
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like sports teams sexual intercourse
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they have different ideas to use
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cinnamon is there mustard beans no beans
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i think chili i use cinnamon mustard and
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beans in sexual intercourse
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okay that's five shows right there ok so
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we could go right into chili or you
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could hear some other ideas and I just I
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literally want to just check these off
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just for future OIC ok so this is
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lightning round all right let's go no
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that is at least there's probably
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actually because that's when you know
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you've introduced the topic
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ok I'm vibrating with excitement about
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the chili lunch and I think I think we
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should circle back to Chile ok ok unless
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there's other ones and no no let's hear
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pedestrians that is not a value judgment
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is a simply a plural noun are you
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interested at some point in talking
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about pedestrians well for many many
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many many years I was a pedestrian who
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that's not really an answer
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oh I'm ready to talk about killing
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checked I'm not ready to talk about
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having been a pedestrian and mine my
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relationship to them now that I'm not
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about yesterday I don't
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want to steer this boat too hard because
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it's your boat it's your wheel right and
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I don't know although i call it
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that's right we gotta get it up the
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mountain is a German and everybody sad
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i'm loco know his record our site and
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that's the that's the other guy klaus
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kinski loud screams kee-yai boil if
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record our was in its class can write
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this down if it's called oh ok that's a
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no that's a that's the guy did that
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movie with that other movie with Klaus
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Kinski what's that guy's name
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yeah that's right that's the guy know
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the guy with the were the only 100 below
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plays the flute and he's got a helmet
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that's a corner Hertzog or hurt sock and
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I'm thinking of a gay wrath of God but
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i'm going to write that's called oh it's
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about a steamboat I think okay number i
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didn't see that one is that the one
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where the guy we're a bottle falls on a
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guy and he clicks at it for a while and
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that takes it back to his tribe
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oh the weather was little a little bit
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fast in parts that's I think that's the
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gods must be crazy part1 ok right as i
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write that down too because i have a lot
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of questions about the gods must be
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crazy and I think with the metaphysical
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distance that we have from that movie
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now we need to talk about the gods must
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be crazy because I thought you were
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talking about the metaphysical distance
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between you and I no no I think I don't
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want to talk about that our connection
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is molecular I think we've established
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that would mean third topic actually
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checking no checking Alaska are always
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talk about Alaska ok I'm going to check
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next to that this is taking too long for
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the problem with public restrooms you
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know that does that has problem the
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problem in front of it so you can tell
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me if you just want to part doesn't
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I went to a guitar show certainly that's
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not really an answer i do it like a
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vintage guitar show and the public
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restrooms their m.o we know what I'm
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gonna I'm gonna exercise my Robert's
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Rules of Order and I'm going to go and
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check next to that right
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ok i had some other ones i'm just gonna
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table these I had a guitar as women
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tattoos people who were hats are am and
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whether other bands take it down before
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show i think we could table as well i
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think many of those guitars women
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tattoos people who were hats REM and pre
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shows potential quick table is
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potentially for future is great i will
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happily talk about all those less
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fortunate than a jump out guitars women
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tattoos people who were hats are
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I'm appreciate have super strong
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feelings about every one of those topics
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and how many women right get this how
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many women you know where have to have
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tattoos play guitar and probably take a
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dump for sho i'm thinking you just in
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the pnw literally dozens
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well i personally know more than a few
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the thing about women in hats
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that's nice is if you go to an event in
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a hat you personally with a woman
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yeah and you realize once you get to the
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event you shouldn't have worn a hat
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wearing a hat is stupid
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who you can give the hat to the woman
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and then the woman's wearing a hat
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Sookie when they do that it's super cute
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right and so then she feels cute and you
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don't look like it like a dink in the
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hat and an event where no other guys
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wearing i have I think you know me well
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enough to know I do not make sweeping
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generalizations but i'm just going to
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say never wear the hat
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we're after the show I mean unless you
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eat because now you're wearing a hat guy
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yeah I know except here's the problem if
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you have a collection of old Stetsons
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which someone on this podcast does then
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what do you do you gotta I mean I i
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think this conundrum every day I wake up
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I walked past my hat rack which is which
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is covered like a like a like a fruit
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tree with vintage head Stetson hats some
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of them quite beautiful hats and I i
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think my first thought is I want to put
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on a hat and this is my second thought
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is you look like an asshole in a half
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and I got that this happens to me 30
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times a day I walked past today I got 0
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don't walk out of the house and a half
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if you were 20 or 30 you would have made
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a different set of decisions about every
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step of that you might have said I don't
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even need these hats certainly don't
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need more than one and then when you did
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have a musical i got this hat got aware
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of the show I don't think you even go to
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that many shows these days i'm guessing
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because you're very busy but I imagine
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now when you do that you bring that
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level of circumspection to any really
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any of the fruit trees in your house
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whether that is the elephant boots or
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the the costly hats or on some level you
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can wear too many ralph lauren shirts
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right i mean you're bringing to this is
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circumspection is all you can't wear
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more than three ralph lauren shirts at a
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time because it starts that you start to
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look muscle-bound you get a kind of like
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yum Arnold Schwarzenegger all I can take
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up residence on lafayette and that's not
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appealing i don't think people used to
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wear to i mentioned this end up in a
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previous visit I i remember what people
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wear to with the with the Colorado
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I don't get it that's one of the top
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that's I don't want to talk about that
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either ok but anyway I see kids in hats
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all the time and I'm sorry I'm just jump
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in here are we gonna go stronger people
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with hats you know let's go back here
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no no listen I'm not here to derail it's
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your rail is your train i'm just writing
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I'm happy to talk about hats are you
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ever you're riding my caboose mm uu feel
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mostly like this topic script that can i
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can put this in my personal file that's
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it's all it's all gold i'll talk about
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all that stuff but I don't want to talk
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well I feel so I do feel strongly about
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i think the whole thing where women wear
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I mean come on that script but that's a
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different topic yeah the last time i
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went to South by Southwest every single
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person in the in the city was wearing
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some kind of snap brim fedora that they
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bought in an airport and I wanted to
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have a lightsaber so that I could go
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around and just take the top three
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inches of everyone's head off and then I
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of course I'm i went home and that
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should be all that shuttle service
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industry you should be armies armies of
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people who are not unemployed but
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partially employee give them a wrist
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rocket and a handful of pebbles and you
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literally do nothing but knock hats off
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of wears a hat i said all along they
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need you pick them up and you say you
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yeah you know what maybe think a little
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harder Austin you know it
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yeah i'm already designing the uniforms
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for those guys with the wrist Rockets I
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don't really good idea i think like like
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unitard but bell-bottom white white
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bell-bottom unitard sounds like the
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defrank of family maybe like the basic I
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don't know I I you know I would never
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say rollers thing about it yeah but it's
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there and cameltoe is a big is a big
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part of the sentiment for the menu which
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is called something else right it's not
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cameltoe if it's not if it's a guy its
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oh I literally just made this upset
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crack the now it's so unappealing no
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matter how you look at I was that you
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sent me that Eddie Van Halen interview
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that he did backstage at the at the
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stoner fast and i didn't mention it that
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had photos that and photos of him and
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the thing is those those seventies jeans
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like from the knee down
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they hung like curtains they weren't
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tight but boy they tailored them somehow
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so that they were they were the tightest
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just right in that area right around
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where you pee I i have I don't know why
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I think this and I don't know why I
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think it but I have a feeling that David
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Lee Roth has some serious lumber going
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on I think he I think he could have
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killed some spotted owls with that thing
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i just started and is that right what
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they are with the with the penises
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yes no I'm sympathetic to that to the
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fact that the Jews are big penises
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I mean I don't like to indulge in stereo
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tell you me well first of all a the Jews
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had a hard time if anybody deserves a
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giant rocketed you don't you pick their
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here you know what I'm saying I think
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that it's their time and it's now is
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there time i was thinking more of the
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the little wore roller one that helmet
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effect I'm very sympathetic to that
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there were 10 i guess maybe like it like
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a terminal a storm trooper hat oh this
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is getting way far afield
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yeah I I you know I think you your whole
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conception of penises has a lot to do
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with what you're sporting first the
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first time I see the opposite of the
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kind of penis you have I think you know
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i'm talking about the first to see the
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opposite angle after you see one the
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curves to the right who I i don't know
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i'm not i'm not pro or anti circumcision
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but I am pro circumcision not because of
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the pain that because the cutting but
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just because i think everyone should
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look like me the extent possible
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well yeah it's a cultural thing and you
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are a member of a very distinct culture
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yeah i think the first time you see that
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nobody i'm looking into that that's not
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I you know here's the thing i would
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never go up I despise tattoos I I just
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as a name as a thing I just despise
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of a lot of people who have tattoos yeah
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yeah now it's like it's like it's like
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religion i love a lot of religious
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people but i'm not a super fan of
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religion I think that's a terrific
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example and and i have to say especially
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with some of the ladies it's a matter of
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taste and some of them have some really
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really beautiful tattoos almost never on
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the foot or the back i will note the
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foot tattoo and then you gotta you gotta
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go buy sandals so people can see ya know
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it i'm wearing the clothes i'm wearing
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it's a shortcut to looking like a
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juggalette if you look back to your
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right right on the way to be in the
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jungle at but here's the problem right
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Merlin now I get into this all the time
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if you start talking shit about tattoos
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so many people in my culture now have
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let's just start talking shit about it
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is to is to start minutes if I can sit
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and talk about religion all day and I'm
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I know I'm offending people but they're
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people have sex then that's abstract
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yeah it's like it's like talking about
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how they feel about chest width oh you
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know I kind of like chess but they're
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not going to like punch in the nose and
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the people that were the people that
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really care about chest and they're out
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there somewhere but i'm not concerned
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you can probably look if you had to
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fight i could lick them in a fight every
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other ways yes well we really just their
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they're committed they can't go back
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that foot they can take their foot off
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that's gonna have to be lasers and if I
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say if i make some sweeping statement
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like any tattoo in your bikini area is
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gross no matter what it is a picture of
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it i don't care if it's a beautiful
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flower i don't care if it is a picture
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of Ronald McDonald what that is grosser
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ronald mcdonald is grosser than flower
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but it's all I don't I never want to
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feel sized a life-size ronald mcdonald
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tell you where his nose is your clitoris
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it's not that is your nose it's a
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literally life-size that's probably just
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the front but if you if you're sick
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segment back for christmas
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I'm still saving up for Christmas
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why you would seriously the Juggalos
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wood would welcome you with open arms
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i don't i'm not putting this on the
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official list i'm a third card we're
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going to put jealous because I want to
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learn more about Douglas i read about
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them it's bikini area thing is one of
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those like oh my god this girl's
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beautiful oh here we go
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she's so oh now with off with the bikini
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and oh yeah just like a little scar down
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here it's like I put up the leftover
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Chinese food somebody ate all the shrimp
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out and they put a dead bird in there
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that's that's not food anymore
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why would you mess up such a nice area
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while not only a metaphor I want to
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associate with a bikini promise food you
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get the shrimp out and there's a dead
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the problem is literally not a metaphor
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oh ok could be a bluebird and missing
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shrimp that I don't next tattoo of a
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container of chinese food we're clearly
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there's shrimp shrimp shaped areas that
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are empty and a dead bird
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can I give you an economical solution to
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that one word kanji there is probably a
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symbol for this is not single this is
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the kanji symbol this is a single
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conscious i don't know what that means
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for kanji as I think it's a language
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thing you go in I think you say to them
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I would like the kanji symbol for this
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is a tattoo of probably a bluebird and
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some missing shrimp and can I just say I
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think seven out of ten tattoo
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quote-unquote artists will say no
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yeah and actually driving is it so hard
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to learn you put some lines on there you
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go that's awesome this Conchie
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yeah well but you know what it is people
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who get tattoos they really likes and
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script that's the language they really
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want their tattoo and let's look on your
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arms in your background that the seven
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Angelina Jolie has I'm sure she does
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oh my god i'm so irritated angelina
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jolie right now just thinking of her
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tattoos on right-hander Damon and right
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under juggalos there goes happy with no
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water tattoos are I sure she has some
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that are pissing me off right we're
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gonna need a second and probably 50 odd
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cast just for Angelina Jolie then that
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but I understand this problem i run into
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it too because i have dear friends now
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here's the problem twitter is I say
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you know you you look that makes you
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look a little bit filthy and when you
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it's not gonna be pretty and my friends
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think I'm addressing them directly i
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have friends they have tattoos that are
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very meaningful to them about very
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meaningful things to her over some of
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them are awesome i have a friend a
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friend in college who looked a lot like
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a Sherman from from Bullwinkle and so he
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got a Sherman tattoo that was beautiful
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and I thought that was funny
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I don't know Frank a different got a
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question mark and the word doubt under
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it I thought that was nice
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that's nice i have a lot of friends that
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are tattooed from the bottoms of their
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earlobes to the ends of their fucking
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toes who and I dated a couple of girls
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that had a that had tattoos all over
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their bodies and and i was able for that
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period to enjoy those people's studies
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as a part of them over the enjoyment of
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them but i cannot say that I would not
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have preferred that they did not have
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all those tattoos i think in the
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aggregate what that says is yes i will
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work at the coffee shop but be you
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probably shouldn't trust me with the
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keys so all the tattoos
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well to me it becomes you know see we
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should move on i can probably tell me I
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can't talk about tattoo I can't talk
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about tattoos on girls anymore because
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there are enough people watching my
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twitter feed who are going to send me a
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text that says when did you see a girls
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bikini area ? ? and I'm like uh I was
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just thinking about it in the abstract
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and then I get another text
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oh really you're just thinking about
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that Jesus is the other problem is the
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other problem with twitter which is when
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on your I try to help people by saying
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something abstract people who feel that
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that is about them will respond
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personally that's the second problem
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with what I'm talking about you all the
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time to talk about you except one
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computer all except as much i am talking
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I'm not talking about you right now I
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was absolutely talking about you a
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now you're talking about me you know and
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that's different that's totally
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that's the second problem
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which appears it here's the thing I've
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well we're here I've been to your bikini
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area but i think i've been to jet city
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as i like to call it you prefer that or
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emerald cities like San Frisco is look
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up to her saying they just pretty well
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no you got it wrong you got a song
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here's the thing about jet city in the
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in the fifties and sixties jet city was
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the first that was seattle's nickname
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that was seattle's like because the
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boeing is the bone because we were
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making jets before anybody else i love i
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think it's i think it's fantastic it's
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got tomorrow and quality its muscular
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►
thank you that's exactly right and we
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were jet city all the way up until some
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magical point in the late seventies when
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some the Cabal of city fathers decided
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they were gonna rebrand Seattle as the
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Emerald City which is like a land of
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little of dwarves like magical little
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green emerald city what is that that's
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like a tour the Dorothy in Oz right
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it's a place it's a place with a lot of
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poppies it's run by a fraud
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yeah it's not a that's no nickname
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nobody wanted that nobody asked for that
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what is it to Temple about the city
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well it's it it's very green here even
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verdant where it's already XP colleague
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►
it's both bucolic and burden is a
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schematic it's not 4matic no format
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►
format diplomatic city would be this
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►
Kansas City Missouri this little battle
◼
►
that the city that knows how to haack it
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►
no that's not that's not Seattle Seattle
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►
is Colin Burton who like a prince in san
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►
francisco in one's mind's eye one thinks
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►
no san francisco bucolic hurt but in
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►
fact it's it's neither of those things
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►
it's a parched desert same thing
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►
happened in the late seventies you know
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►
same kinda bunch of people hung over
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nobody had the good sense to say no to
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►
Emerald City 19th it was 19 now is
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►
probably anything 87 cisco that's not
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►
assign they said that's not even that's
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not even a nickname that's just a
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►
statement and they said no seriously
◼
►
that's not funny but no matter what you
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say in San Francisco somebody's gonna
◼
►
say you know what that's not funny
◼
►
yeah that went on the license plates
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►
it's not actually not a question its
◼
►
license plates me like me like on cars
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►
haha ok here's an idea when you take
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►
your comment and go for gas right into
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that's not funny that is exactly what is
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►
your custom license plate that's not a
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►
crime that's your that's yours h8 crying
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►
ah here's my question to you what why
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►
why is frisco so up so bad for you
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►
I mean frisco it's like you say first go
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to san francisco in the frickin and they
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►
frickin and they will they will go eat
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like an orchid in a microwave
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►
well be were very touchy I don't know if
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►
you realize that we're very touchy you
◼
►
are not touchy-feely just touchy
◼
►
that's not funny but a you-know-what
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►
people started calling you the Windies
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►
and all I'm going out tonight to see the
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►
the twenties but let's go as a frisco
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has a long and and glorious a trigger
◼
►
career they called it Frisco bag in 1859
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and they also used to think there's
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spiders and WM doesn't make it right
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I don't know I I there's two things I
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hurt you never call it Frisco and for
◼
►
the love of Christ never call it San
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►
Fran when I moved here my wife educated
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►
me on many things she told me she told
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►
me I was we were never going to
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rollerblade and golden gate park so I
◼
►
cross that off my list said we're never
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►
gonna buy a big can of coffee in a red
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►
can that's never happening again
◼
►
well she's right there she was right and
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►
I think you can blame Emerald City for
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►
that says it all the coffee now that's
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►
right to change the world but the sheet
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she schooled me on that i think i had
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heard or read in books you don't cloths
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►
and Fredo call it Frisco I i don't know
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►
i mean you know what they call it and
◼
►
this is this is really not funny but
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►
they call it the city now see that right
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►
the city by the bay was seen around the
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►
city that never stops right the city
◼
►
that was built on on rock and roll and
◼
►
an over-inflated mining industry you
◼
►
know back then because five dollars for
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►
18 just wearing the gold rush days this
◼
►
is the thing when you have a big boom
◼
►
I get rich and it is the suckers let me
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►
tell you it's right in your bikini area
◼
►
you people who get rich it's like the
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►
lawyer thing the field is the milk
◼
►
producers that get rich every time John
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►
if you want to sleep literally on a
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►
wooden bench was ten dollars a night
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►
that's in 18-49 dollars i have to look
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►
up what that is but I think that's a lot
◼
►
of money that is a lot of money to
◼
►
finance I wouldn't take ten dollars the
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►
wooden bench right now we can we stay at
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►
I know when you're luckier here mattress
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►
that shaped like a taco your taco
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►
mattress for Lily's there you gotta pump
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►
it up every night it's on router
◼
►
memorial taco mattress where I don't get
◼
►
off topic that I've always enjoy I
◼
►
always enjoyed how you made how you made
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►
someone sleep in the van
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►
I always thought that was about way more
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►
than protecting the equipment we live
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►
literally 323 cut that out we live close
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►
to a police station you have next to a
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►
that's fine and it's a very it's a very
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►
pastoral automatic not area much like
◼
►
REM is a reckoning and so you know
◼
►
you're mostly going to be okay and our
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►
neighborhood but you would always make
◼
►
someone sleep i think michael you make
◼
►
Michael sleep in the van a lot just for
◼
►
Michael like to sleep in the van because
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►
michael is a compulsive masturbator
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►
and i think is a loud masturbator so
◼
►
you're not comfortable sleeping around
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►
other people he likes to be in a in an
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►
enclosed area where you can steam up the
◼
►
windows but i slept in the van in front
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►
of your house one time
◼
►
yeah i was done about that and I had I
◼
►
had a terrifying experience I think I
◼
►
told you about this the next morning I
◼
►
was asleep in the man next to the park
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right where I'm by back in so i'm
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I'm sleeping in the van in the middle of
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the night I wake up with a start to a a
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►
vision of like an army of dead soldiers
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marching across the park toward me I
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►
looked out of the window and I see an
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and I'm you know I sleep in the I sleep
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►
on naturale foo and so I shoot out of of
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►
our the of the back punk in the van
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►
shoot across for a bench seats in the
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►
van into the driver's seat
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turn on the van and put it in gear and
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►
peel out this is four o'clock in the
◼
►
morning peel out of this parking space
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►
and don't stop for like four blocks
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►
bare-ass naked driving in a panic away
◼
►
from this army of dead soldiers coming
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►
at me and I pulled over to the side of
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►
panting coming out of the park at you ya
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►
know watching across the park toward the
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►
van in gold surrounding the van at four
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►
in the morning that's horrific it was
◼
►
terrible and then I didn't sleep the
◼
►
rest of the night I couldn't could park
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►
next to the the park of dead soldiers
◼
►
know what era like to remember what were
◼
►
the Crimean no they weren't cry me and I
◼
►
you know that they were in western guard
◼
►
quite frankly that's just gonna find you
◼
►
have a lot of visions like that well but
◼
►
stick model you're getting mana no
◼
►
not-not-not anywhere i've never gotten a
◼
►
stigma but i do have periodically very
◼
►
rarely I'll be sleeping in a strange
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►
house or either i was sleeping at a
◼
►
house in Vermont one time I turned off
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the light and immediately felt like
◼
►
there was someone terrible in the room
◼
►
with me and i SAT up turn on the light
◼
►
and spent the entire night sitting up
◼
►
like reading old readers digest because
◼
►
the second that I the second that I was
◼
►
not vigilant there was a terrible
◼
►
terrible malevolent presence there and
◼
►
in the morning i limp down to the
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►
breakfast and the my hosts are sitting
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►
there and they said how did you sleep
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►
and I said well not very well actually
◼
►
because there's a really really evil
◼
►
ghoul that lives in the room
◼
►
you partying and they went oh we were
◼
►
wondering if you would notice
◼
►
that's why we put you in there we
◼
►
thought you know we just wanted to see
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►
if you would if you would notice what
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►
like keeping what a terrible thing
◼
►
what like a like a like a renter or like
◼
►
a ghost know this house was built in
◼
►
seventeen forty or something like having
◼
►
it like somebody a tricorn hat one who
◼
►
yeah they had a bad ghost and of all the
◼
►
people you know they were like four or
◼
►
five of us staying over and above all
◼
►
the people they were like let's put
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►
Roderick in there he'll if anybody's
◼
►
gonna gonna see the terrible ghost it's
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►
John you can't look at you I would not
◼
►
have never I you know I i love Eric I
◼
►
would never put Eric in with the ghost
◼
►
well Eric would make common cause with
◼
►
the ghosts may have a hip-hop side
◼
►
alright just busting busting some tracks
◼
►
I I think of you is a despite the
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►
extreme irrationality of the most
◼
►
aspects of your personality I think of
◼
►
you as a rational person I don't give
◼
►
you as a post-enlightenment kind of
◼
►
I don't believe in ghosts if that's what
◼
►
you're giving i'm not sure what i'm
◼
►
getting at but use don't seem like
◼
►
somebody I could see you getting up and
◼
►
thinking there it goes for a while maybe
◼
►
up to the point you made it through your
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►
vegan breakfast which i assume is all
◼
►
they serve in remind that's right and so
◼
►
foodie breakfast and then I could but it
◼
►
seems like at some point you wait
◼
►
it sounds to me that I like as as you
◼
►
sit here today you still think something
◼
►
well this is the problem with with these
◼
►
uh with these emotional experiences that
◼
►
you have in the middle of the night if
◼
►
you are too rigorous in the light of day
◼
►
about debunking those things I think you
◼
►
do yourself a disservice
◼
►
I think if you are woken up in the
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►
middle of the night by an army of ghouls
◼
►
walking across the park and you are
◼
►
scared enough that you jump out in naked
◼
►
and drive away it doesn't serve you
◼
►
it doesn't serve the the the magical
◼
►
pish-posh yourself and say oh that must
◼
►
have just been a barber car especially
◼
►
if you're not getting it all the time
◼
►
you're getting that all the time you
◼
►
need to talk to somebody but that's the
◼
►
thing right is what happens once every
◼
►
yeah i just i have to give some credence
◼
►
to it and if you were to sit down next
◼
►
to me now and say well reviewer for
◼
►
instance to call me on the phone and
◼
►
talk to me on a podcast and say do you
◼
►
believe that there was an army of ghouls
◼
►
well do you believe in an army of ghouls
◼
►
I would say no if you saw somebody on
◼
►
Oprah who's talking about this you know
◼
►
how much you enjoy watching reruns of
◼
►
Oprah you would you would say if
◼
►
somebody came on as a whole show about
◼
►
people who seen armies of things
◼
►
ghoulish soldiers you would say I'm not
◼
►
so sure about that right I'm not so sure
◼
►
right but my own experience I just
◼
►
simply can't discount it like for
◼
►
instance one time we were on tour and
◼
►
our van caught on fire in death valley
◼
►
and there's no reason for us to be a
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►
Death Valley except that I we had a day
◼
►
off and I suggested that instead of
◼
►
going to Las Vegas we would go to drive
◼
►
across Death Valley instead and
◼
►
everybody in the van i don't i'm not
◼
►
sure whether they agreed or whether they
◼
►
actually asked to measure matters
◼
►
it's very hard for me sometimes to tell
◼
►
the difference between them agreeing and
◼
►
aqueous and clearly they're really
◼
►
struggling for breath as it was they
◼
►
looked up from their interactive devices
◼
►
long enough to give me what I took as a
◼
►
not so we're driving across Death Valley
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►
and sadly the brakes failed and
◼
►
definitely is a very it's a very the
◼
►
brakes family van was on fire
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►
well no that's how the mountains are the
◼
►
brakes failed and death valley is very
◼
►
mountainous know the way that it that it
◼
►
ends up being so far below sea level is
◼
►
not that it just sorta tapers down it
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►
you go up a really big mountain and then
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►
you go really far down a mountain even
◼
►
further down than the place where he
◼
►
started and then your hundred people of
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►
sea-level same with the brakes concave
◼
►
yes it's like a contact lens in the
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►
and so the thing catches on fire because
◼
►
that because I burned through the brakes
◼
►
and then burned through I just burned
◼
►
through it all and so the ban is burning
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►
and where we jump out and we we throw
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►
our will our bottles of water on her
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►
then we throw our bottles of P that
◼
►
every band has in their van we throw
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►
that on the burning breaks and then
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►
we're sitting in the middle of the night
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►
did I mention it was the middle of the
◼
►
night we're sitting in the middle of the
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►
night in death valley where the brakes
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hot because he'd been you got an
◼
►
automatic right you're not going to be
◼
►
clutching your way with Hills is because
◼
►
you just been overusing the brakes and
◼
►
they got overheated while the bread the
◼
►
brakes were gone and yeah they got they
◼
►
got overheated it was metal-on-metal for
◼
►
a wolf and it's it's it's late night
◼
►
we're standing on the side of the road
◼
►
in death valley there's not another
◼
►
living soul for miles in any direction
◼
►
clear night and we're standing there
◼
►
looking at the bank when water with
◼
►
energy this is this is we're stuck here
◼
►
we're gonna die here and I look over and
◼
►
what had in my peripheral vision would
◼
►
have appeared to be like a a giant radio
◼
►
transmission tower that had some red
◼
►
lights on it I realized kind of it at
◼
►
the same moment that I saw it move
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►
I realized there were no radio there are
◼
►
no high-tension power lines out here
◼
►
this is death valley where the middle of
◼
►
nowhere and I look over and this high
◼
►
tension power line tower is moving
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►
across the sky at at the at the pace at
◼
►
a walking pace and it's also rotating so
◼
►
that and it's and this is happening and
◼
►
it's moving behind a mountain as I see
◼
►
it and I look over and I go what the
◼
►
hell is that and we all look except Eric
◼
►
Eric was Eric had walked away from the
◼
►
van and was out in the desert with a
◼
►
flashlight turning over rocks looking
◼
►
for snakes and scorpions and so I say
◼
►
look at that and everybody looks and we
◼
►
all go and eric is like these night
◼
►
blind because he has this flashlight
◼
►
and by the time Eric looks up and gets
◼
►
his night-vision the thing has moved
◼
►
behind the mountain but the rest of us
◼
►
all saw this thing this crazy thing I
◼
►
could you know i just did you generate
◼
►
this point beyond Michael or Michael or
◼
►
he's also i will actually now that I
◼
►
think about an appeal had flown to some
◼
►
other show cause he was he was looking
◼
►
for is it who else saw this besides just
◼
►
it was just Jonathan actually was just
◼
►
mean ok but we both thought and neither
◼
►
of us words was able to describe it in a
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way that sounded like the thing that the
◼
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other person he didn't see it just
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because he wanted to agree with you
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no no he was like whoa and then he
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started talking about it like it was
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some kind of trapezoid cool and I was
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like it cool and I said there wasn't a
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trapezoid it was a it was a triangular
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and he's like no no it was a
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quadrilateral and so we couldn't agree
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but anyway if people say to me what you
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believe in UFOs I say oh you could be
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sure that she might believe in that UFO
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but I saw that your phone maybe it was a
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government experiment maybe it was a
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radio tower that had come unrooted as it
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wasn't more like a movie with my at or
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or more like like a Zeppelin or I me
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said was walking right let's say it was
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a Zeppelin that had no skin on it that
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was tumbling end over end low like
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hurling like a like a poorly kick
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yeah except really slow
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well and your fans on fire and advance
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on fire this this this this sounds like
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some kind of rejected david lynch thing
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that was a hell of a night let me tell
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you what you do d duty to the interplay
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well no no there's no cell phone service
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because we're in the middle of dead
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valid death valley so you don't like you
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like other people driving
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oh hell no nobody else is gonna drive my
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van now one captains in charge now when
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Captain burn up the brakes is in charge
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so what I did I swear to you I put it in
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gear low gear and drove without touching
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the brakes for 60 miles your king and
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sometimes we were going really fast and
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sometimes we were going really slow but
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I just I just said you know what we're
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gonna do we're just gonna we're just
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going to hurtle down this mountain and
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hope and pray that there are no hairpin
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turns and there were none so we just
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hurdled down the mountain and out into
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the desert and we rolled through the
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flat desert for many many miles until we
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arrived in a town and we pulled into the
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town still without having touch the
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brakes pulled into the parking lot of a
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Ford dealership which was right next to
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a motel so we pulled into the ford
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dealership and went got a room at the
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motel in the morning i went over told
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them to fix the breaks they spent all
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day doing it because the firebreak fire
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had also burned some other important
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parts but they had it done by three in
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the afternoon we were in la by five in
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time for sound check it yeah is
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so improbable in so many ways well
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that's rock and roll Merlin batteries
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that's how Rock and Roll plays out does
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it benefit no no we got paid for that
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show largo where you play space space
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hmm might have been spaced place that
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was during the house during the era when
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I was away it was our tour and who's the
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british guy in la that have the taste
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making indie rock radio show
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Rodney on the rock know the Oh nikka
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nikka yeah morning when it comes to
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collect their morning becomes eclectic
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with Nick what's but yep and presence is
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married name for years he took his
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wife's name was what about she's from
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land from Wales for years he was a you
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know that's one of those shows where if
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you're an indie rock band you go play
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morning becomes eclectic and we had been
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saying for a long time here want to have
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us down there and they would say oh we
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love you guys we play your stuff all the
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►
time but on this tour they just booked
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we don't have any opening slots because
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mob wise coming in and presidents and so
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this was one of those tours where we
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were somewhere in the Midwest and our
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people were saying hey why don't you
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have the long winters on Morning Becomes
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eclectic and they're like oh absolutely
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you know that sounds like a great deal
◼
►
let's check the schedule and then right
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they're like oh sorry we can't you know
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something came up and and and we we
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can't we have to pull your slot or
◼
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something with that we were like oh
◼
►
again you know not on we don't get to go
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on Morning Becomes eclectic and so all
◼
►
of the LA indie-rockers think their
◼
►
music from here or not going to hear
◼
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about us and we're never going to be
◼
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famous and then we get a phone call from
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the openers on our tour a band called
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what made Milwaukee famous foo and they
◼
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were calling us to say all we just got
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offered morning becomes eclectic and so
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we have to like we have to drive all
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through the night to go do it isn't that
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that was like did you put got talent
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and that was as you know about me I'm
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you know I very dignified over there are
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some things i don't i don't bear with
◼
►
equanimity who so many insults I cannot
◼
►
bear hope perfidious some perfidious
◼
►
nasai will not bear the perfect it was
◼
►
duplicitous of deliciousness of another
◼
►
thing I won't bury hardwood or whatever
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►
his name is there that studies that's
◼
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fucked up John and so this wasn't this
◼
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was one of those moments when i said i
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know that this is I know that that to
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adopt this attitude is to only do a
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►
disservice to myself because morning
◼
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becomes eclectic does not care really
◼
►
if the long winters ever play on their
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show because they are a media juggernaut
◼
►
and they will turn up they will gobble
◼
►
up bands and speed them out there radio
◼
►
and it has their pick of meeting men
◼
►
right their desires it's a buyers market
◼
►
it is a buyers market and they you know
◼
►
they lured that over bands and i said i
◼
►
will not play the show now I do not care
◼
►
if they come to me on bended knee they
◼
►
have insulted me and i will not ever
◼
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appear on this stupid taste making radio
◼
►
show that will that is a career-maker i
◼
►
will not go to refuse em and I mean it's
◼
►
not like we turn down a bunch of offers
◼
►
from them subsequently how did you
◼
►
present that was that was that in like
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►
gmail theses to a tree or this is my
◼
►
internal tribunal just steaming because
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►
i have actually have a sort of have a
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►
legislature in my head and different
◼
►
characters getting you have a you have a
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cognitive deliberative body i have a
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►
deliberative body that's right and and
◼
►
different personalities get up and make
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very impassioned speeches and the other
◼
►
legislators some of them you know her
◼
►
mom firm rasberry rhubarb rhubarb and
◼
►
others you know trying to shut me down i
◼
►
have a quorum later you can hang on a
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►
are you there are you the room or you
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►
the body or you the decision in this
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that's probably it that's part of the
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deliberation i am the room i am the body
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and i am the decision and that is the
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very beginning in the beginning was the
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word and the Word was John and then it's
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Turtles all the way down ten dollars in
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18-49 the equivalent would be two
◼
►
hundred and ninety-eight dollars and
◼
►
twenty-eight cents in today's dollars
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►
that's to sleep on board
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►
well I'm stating some hotels that cost
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►
more than that don't know I little more
◼
►
little bored and I right never picked
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New York City i stayed on somebody
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►
i'm happy to say i stayed I we're in
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times square because it was near where
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we had to do a thing and it was
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literally five hundred dollars a night
◼
►
and they didn't mention that they were
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►
shutting off the water at seven in the
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►
morning i guess i mentioned it was on a
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►
piece of paper somewhere on a desk but
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►
what by the way your five-hundred-dollar
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►
night hotel room will not have water
◼
►
renovations everything in New York is
◼
►
constantly being renovated
◼
►
yeah i mean it's it's like it's like
◼
►
what you like to paint the Golden Gate
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►
Bridge they're always paying great
◼
►
brakes are they just going to start over
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►
it's already time to repaint the bridge
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►
yeah it's like you've always been at war
◼
►
you know what I mean with shanna or
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►
whatever I had one of those in chicago i
◼
►
stated again not on my dime but a very
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nice hotel there on the lake on the gold
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coast and at seven o'clock in the
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morning i woke up to the sound of some
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guys who were standing right outside my
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window although it was on the 24th floor
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►
because they were standing on a giant
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crane that was at seven o'clock in the
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►
morning proceeding to like swing a
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wrecking ball at the building next door
◼
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and I felt the same way like this hotel
◼
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I mean you could feed a Romanian village
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►
for a year with what this hotel room
◼
►
costs and and and lice and I feel like
◼
►
I'm in a 50-gallon drum with bowling
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►
balls going over the Niagara Falls
◼
►
which is which you probably have done at
◼
►
one point or another I think it's very
◼
►
frustrating and you know that the way
◼
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they try to do this now is they got like
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►
the fakie boutique hotels i blame a lot
◼
►
of this on the wi like a w I stayed at
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►
the W there in your city
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►
yeah it's a nice place i think though
◼
►
the whole thing of going in and getting
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►
a urine-soaked oba hotel and then
◼
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charging $300 and because you got black
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carpeting i don't i don't love this
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►
pattern and I think a lot of people were
◼
►
doing it more poorly they make the room
◼
►
smaller and then there's disco all night
◼
►
all night long there's a disco i stated
◼
►
place in New York is very costly John
◼
►
they had a white noise machine built
◼
►
into the room because so deafening was
◼
►
the disco i think was like Italian disco
◼
►
yeah she's worse than regular disco and
◼
►
just going to stay all night and your
◼
►
thing is you're basically you're inside
◼
►
like a big the costly toilet paper tube
◼
►
it's just I don't know a lot about
◼
►
physics but the booming of the italian
◼
►
disco flies up this chimney of pain
◼
►
you're sleeping you're on the perimeter
◼
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of the chimney of paint and it's just
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►
it's coming straight up on my long
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yeah it's like trying to sleep in the in
◼
►
the bathroom of a virgin america flight
◼
►
that's a nice for the day and nice
◼
►
flights want to stick the fucking apples
◼
►
in your ear it's ridiculous
◼
►
21 Seattle is nice well that this
◼
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boutique hotel thing is sweeping the
◼
►
nation the ace hotel doesn't love the
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►
ace does it really well have you stayed
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►
at the ACO need to you live there
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►
well I've said all the Aces to you can I
◼
►
did you compensate the room I was in
◼
►
that time I did it it was it was a
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really in that manager was just the best
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►
yeah place in seattle is forget his name
◼
►
but he's from enemies from Boston and
◼
►
he's the best if you ever need to sleep
◼
►
in seattle and your mom's house is full
◼
►
go to the ACE i thought i was very
◼
►
impressed with the ACE I think about
◼
►
days though is that it is an old
◼
►
flophouse the walls are little Finn you
◼
►
can hear people having sex in the room
◼
►
next door i did i told you this
◼
►
yeah well no I it's a common experience
◼
►
a nice place to go have sex like it but
◼
►
it was like you're in a high school play
◼
►
and it said now have sex for six hours
◼
►
it was like it was like two people
◼
►
yelling realized well than i did like
◼
►
people yelling for Samuel French think
◼
►
since and they mostly were just yelling
◼
►
for a few hours and ladies coming ah ah
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she's like she's stuck gets unstuck in a
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►
yeah then your common thing with young
◼
►
people i think that they have seen so
◼
►
yes but they have no concept of how to
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►
where they aren't performing for an
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oh I i totally agree and you're making
◼
►
fake noises they're making fake faces
◼
►
have you ever had well you have been
◼
►
married for a long time no but I had
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►
I've had had sex twice before I got
◼
►
married and I may I can remember me more
◼
►
about it was no but listen here's the
◼
►
thing you and I were raised properly we
◼
►
were raised we masturbate in magazines
◼
►
we understood there was a certain level
◼
►
of uh artful artifice to this we
◼
►
understood that you know what I mean no
◼
►
but you know what sometimes you wash off
◼
►
the fucking greasepaint you get off the
◼
►
goddamn stage he just got to just you
◼
►
just go downtown you get the business
◼
►
done and then you go to sleep maybe
◼
►
watch a movie but you know I think I
◼
►
think these kids they get the porn very
◼
►
early and plus you got you got you got
◼
►
christina aguilera it's not just the
◼
►
kids it's a it's all the people that are
◼
►
like watching porn compulsively
◼
►
Christina Aguilera if she's very shiny
◼
►
and I just pray to God that that's
◼
►
Purell because I think she's she's
◼
►
looking like a doorknob
◼
►
it's a good to do it's douche i don't
◼
►
well it was originally it was do now its
◼
►
place that's like entertainment bukkake
◼
►
I don't know what's going on somebody
◼
►
needs to get a fucking squeegee a hose
◼
►
on that lady and she's just getting
◼
►
shinier and shinier and I think that's
◼
►
what you're facing nowadays you got the
◼
►
YouTube right you know and then people
◼
►
just yelling there's a lot of yelling
◼
►
there's not a face making like I get a
◼
►
base base when we look up a tab and the
◼
►
bad bass players making that bass face
◼
►
and I have guitar face i've been told
◼
►
that our face you don't have that
◼
►
there's this there's this sex face that
◼
►
you see now where people like you know I
◼
►
work we can be people there you go
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►
what why are you making that face what
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►
do you--what do you see that John was
◼
►
watching numbers are you on youtube or
◼
►
where do you see that would be 6a so you
◼
►
know I and as there's someone who isn't
◼
►
married i have encountered a no
◼
►
not-not-not I should tremendous
◼
►
cross-section of of sex faces but I've
◼
►
seen I've seen a few secs faces and and
◼
►
natural one is one at a certain point in
◼
►
one hopes that one loses us the sense of
◼
►
self-awareness one loses if one is doing
◼
►
it correctly truly ecstatic state if you
◼
►
like where you are no longer aware of
◼
►
how you appear if you can't you're doing
◼
►
sex recognition sing them you're if
◼
►
you're mean if you're making intercourse
◼
►
the correct way I hope you'll agree with
◼
►
this you should look pretty stupid
◼
►
you're gonna look stupid
◼
►
you should both look stupid yeah sure
◼
►
learn arabic if you don't look stupid
◼
►
you're doing it wrong yeah you don't
◼
►
know you're going to look terrible
◼
►
you're gonna look like somebody like
◼
►
like somebody just ran you through an
◼
►
oil pipeline or like i don't know as i
◼
►
get older more things to me look like
◼
►
someone trying to have a BM like when
◼
►
people have intercourse because that's
◼
►
your benchmark that's your benchmark was
◼
►
also successful BM you don't get to pick
◼
►
your problems in life John they pick you
◼
►
up just like thug life
◼
►
I assume but here's one thing I've been
◼
►
doing this sex acts so much it's like
◼
►
one of my best p.m. i said this recently
◼
►
on a social media site that I think I
◼
►
think that's what happens when
◼
►
especially teenagers in my neighborhood
◼
►
the matheletes the Chinese rap Chinese
◼
►
kids been through their teeth
◼
►
I think the idea of looking tough looks
◼
►
a lot like they're trying to decide
◼
►
whether they're having a PM it's not
◼
►
even a turtle nests are going there
◼
►
sitting there going I i'm not sure what
◼
►
this is but this is the way I look and I
◼
►
tell you know what that is that's the 21
◼
►
Jump Street gangster face that's like a
◼
►
twenty-year-old reference John this
◼
►
isn't an old show is nothing like we're
◼
►
21 Jump Street yeah that was that was
◼
►
the show we're at the time it was
◼
►
released it was really street or at
◼
►
least it will pursue it was perceived as
◼
►
being really street so they swapped out
◼
►
Johnny Depp for Richard Grieco was at
◼
►
that show i think Johnny Depp was in it
◼
►
for the whole time but actually this is
◼
►
richard grieco is here footless who is
◼
►
I have no idea let's see related James
◼
►
Franco all those people with ethnic
◼
►
names I feel like they're all the same
◼
►
have mixed feelings about James Franco
◼
►
and very interested in James Franco but
◼
►
I kind of mixed feelings
◼
►
he looks to board Frankie spreading
◼
►
himself a little thin I see him and I
◼
►
think I look at is a look at his resume
◼
►
and I go oh right this is the resume
◼
►
when I was in high school this is the
◼
►
resume that i thought i would have
◼
►
like seven Ivy League degrees cooler
◼
►
painful i'm really pull Ivy League
◼
►
schools plus he's doing awards shows and
◼
►
eating his arms in which his arm in the
◼
►
movie he's his arm he he is on a he's on
◼
►
a soap opera and people think it's an
◼
►
art installation he goes to an art
◼
►
installation people think the sports
◼
►
opera Rick Springfield did a long time
◼
►
ago in here but nobody thought he was an
◼
►
art slice from australia i think Rick
◼
►
Springfield's I don't have the job to
◼
►
check that we're going to class dog can
◼
►
i just say i have not I i can feel like
◼
►
i can summon James Franco's face and at
◼
►
least in my head with my filing system i
◼
►
have its kind of he's a little bit James
◼
►
Dean via the this murky guy from 91 out
◼
►
9125 which was the show which was the
◼
►
show with trevor rabin that one with the
◼
►
summer Rae but John Anderson that's 9125
◼
►
right John Anderson from yes and from
◼
►
Arabia and that was produced by Trevor
◼
►
Horn I think not extremely horny don't
◼
►
you windows the TV show 9125 yes record
◼
►
that's the Graduate great yes record you
◼
►
think it's Rachel I don't tell it's like
◼
►
those Don Henley records I can't
◼
►
separate them from my teenage its kind
◼
►
of ways that the Fairlight what are they
◼
►
using on that a lot of fairlight and it
◼
►
wasn't like an early their lap top that
◼
►
they have the stamp you know 60 or side
◼
►
of the the yeah I don't get yamaha dx7
◼
►
the Nexus 7 is like paneling in the
◼
►
eighties basement that cannot be removed
◼
►
it's all that one stupid what's love got
◼
►
to do with it like Flutie harmonic
◼
►
ething yeah it's on everything i was
◼
►
watching something the other day a
◼
►
television show maybe or or a movie
◼
►
probably youtube bloody so much meet you
◼
►
it was some kind of moving pictures with
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sound and and the soundtrack was they
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hadn't even if they hadn't even moved to
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the faders under dx7 sound wave pattern
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had not been altered it was just some
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guy playing some chords on a dx7 and I
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wanted to I wanted to throw the entire
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whatever device that was I was watching
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it on even if that was a movie theater I
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want to throw it in the ocean right
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because it wasn't intended to be funny
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it was just like whoever the music
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supervisor who whoever the music
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supervisor was it was that that person
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was related to the director they had to
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because there's no other way they could
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have gotten that job don't you think
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every night every era but it just seems
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like there are certain sounds that are
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never going to escape that area i would
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say in there for at least the
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mid-eighties it was the dx7 and the
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fucking Phil Collins over gated snares
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yeah but i can't i'm not going to go on
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record as being against gated snails
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come on i lived through those anti gated
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snare Wars where every time you walk
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into a studio that'd be somebody student
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let yall smuggler but it is because
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you're friends with chris wallace and he
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likes Bowie this is your problem this is
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your problem not your problem chris
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wallace problem i came of age during
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this time when when when when you were
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not supposed to use reverb on things
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that you are not supposed to get your
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snares and and my feeling then as now is
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if you do it and it works now we're just
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gonna have to agree that you're wrong
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what an idea of a copy of David Bowie's
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low i heard you heard it right heard
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yeah okay now that you're allowed to use
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gate that's 1977 and I think a lot of
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the wallet I don't let that super
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familiar with chris wallace like exact
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production things but I think he's an
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acolyte or a follower of that like let's
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put another mic over here and get it
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idea right so you get this weird you get
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a day so i think thatís does too but
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you get like kind of a snappy echo that
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only comes in after a certain amount of
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the trigger right so what would use that
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but it's not he doesn't overuse and
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bearing ok you wasn't Walsman a his
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principal is if you have something like
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that like a trick you use it once on a
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record this is the John Vanderslice
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ization of indie rock
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well now vanderslice that you point that
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you coin that yeah that's it
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vanderslice is a different here that's a
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different candle wax lander slices then
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he's gonna he's gonna print it to tape
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he's going to hand it to an intern and
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he's going to buy that in turn a one-way
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and the kids going to run stamp on it
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just stamp on it he's gonna go to his
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double and he's gonna you know he's
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gonna give it to you had call that
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people lay hands on it and then bring it
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back and they call it the Turkish stomp
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and then you bring it back you run it
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through something you get a bit crusher
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yeah right breasts are exactly what
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you're going through run through the
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hands and a rat and then what do i do
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then you literally throw it out because
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usually it's too much then you realize
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no i did i'm not above that we had a
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track on our first record where we had
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Scott McCoy from the young fresh fellows
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come in and stand in the room we
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couldn't think of anything for him to do
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to the track because there was there was
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too much music under already so we just
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put a microphone pointed it at Scott
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McCoy and had him stand there for three
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minutes and then as we were mixing it we
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just brought up the sound of Scotland
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boy in the room into the track so he's
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let's take it a little more coin in my
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headphones it's just the sound of him
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perspiring and it's on the track that
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must have taken a lot of restraint for
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him he seems like an energetic guy
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well I think I think he was you know he
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was reading or something
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their second album didn't you he played
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harmonica but you sampled it to do
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►
something weird with didn't separate he
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►
so we're we're running the track by he's
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out in the room he has a here's this
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boomerang pedal which is a kind of
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little sampler looper device her and he
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starts playing the harmonica into this
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thing he's not paying attention to us at
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►
he's listening to the track go by
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playing harmonica into this and starts
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looping it and then he's playing the
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looper and this is not a computer you
◼
►
know this is like this is a foot pedal
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►
he's playing the his harmonica part and
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we just tracked it as he did it I mean
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we didn't we didn't do any within monkey
◼
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with it at all he just laid that track
◼
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down he's an enormously creative
◼
►
individual that's Brian bridal right
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►
I don't know that song I I yeah but you
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►
know what i like that song still there's
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►
hope we have a young fresh fellows fan
◼
►
of the massive young freshman you could
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►
be from the Northwest during that era
◼
►
and not know every one of those that was
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a man that one song i can just I can and
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►
do listen to it over and over
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►
have you seen the young fresh fellows
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►
recently first no semicolon I the first
◼
►
show i saw when i moved to Tallahassee
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►
1991 was young fresh fellows it was a it
◼
►
was on the this one's for the ladies i
◼
►
want to say yeah which is on a belief
◼
►
well young fresh fellows still are able
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to get come together and put on an
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►
amazing rock show i'm gonna be playing a
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►
show with them tomorrow I can guess why
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►
my guess is gonna guess to block that
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►
brings the ruckus he really does but a
◼
►
general statement she still jumps right
◼
►
jumps around is amazing they all jump
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►
car and the that they really have it all
◼
►
but the reason for the show tomorrow is
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►
what there's just one word you need to
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►
say and weekends benefit it is a benefit
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►
but it's a benefit for a good cause but
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the second is the second kind of benefit
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►
right it's a benefit for your friend is
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►
that it that's right that's exactly
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►
right it's the good kind of benefit
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which is the one where you know the
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person and you care about them
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►
you should write about this yeah i wrote
◼
►
about it i wrote about the wrong kind of
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►
benefit the kind where somebody cold
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►
calls you and says hey I've got a thing
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►
that I've got a I've got an event that i
◼
►
want you to donate your time and effort
◼
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to that will really do nothing for any
◼
►
problems that we have a friend is he he
◼
►
suffers from ass polyps we're gonna be
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►
at the crocodile and it would be OH some
◼
►
you know if you could come in headline
◼
►
it I got it I got an email from a kid on
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►
facebook the other day who said i'm
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►
putting together some benefit shows to
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a charity and my charity is called
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►
charities for benefits
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►
let's look at the handsy scheme it was
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►
its eye I see this all the time young
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people they think oh I want to do
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►
something good I want to help with other
◼
►
people get a job exactly habitat for
◼
►
humanity we don't need another we don't
◼
►
need another charity goes Liz lose the
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Hat you know cover the tattoos and
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►
fucking grab a broom yeah good donate
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►
some time you started go what go wash a
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car show but please pick up pick up an
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►
old person off the ground these kids are
◼
►
too important yeah they're all people
◼
►
lying on the ground what you want to do
◼
►
it all through the one thing is the book
◼
►
facebook is not a job it's an election
◼
►
they do that they're the two they think
◼
►
they're too fucking important to go work
◼
►
for somebody else's to way too important
◼
►
because they have they went to college
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►
for two years and so they're gonna start
◼
►
a new charity and this new charity is
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going to really this is going to be the
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thing that really helps people and the
◼
►
way this charity is going to earn money
◼
►
is they're going to ask their favorite
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►
bands to play for free and because of
◼
►
everybody knows that bans make millions
◼
►
and millions of dollars and so they can
◼
►
just give it on you so you're gonna have
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►
a show and it's gonna run 1 million
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►
dollars and the band isn't going to miss
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►
it because they'll just go play another
◼
►
show and make another million any idea
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►
what kind of exposure you get out of
◼
►
something like that you get a lot of
◼
►
exposure lot of exposure you know the
◼
►
payment is the exposure the rest is just
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►
because you loved to play music that's
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►
why it's you should you get to do that a
◼
►
lot of people don't get to do that
◼
►
because they have a job but this is also
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this is the kind of this is very much
◼
►
the the sex face hat types they wanted
◼
►
they just think they can they can sit
◼
►
around with their with the facebook and
◼
►
go make up a charity and a hard-working
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►
man like you a man from Alaska and
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►
Washington is going to show up
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►
I just want my hammer yeah so right oh
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►
yeah I'm sawing hammering sawing a
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►
hatchet in fact i wanna catch it but
◼
►
fell off a ladder and hit me on the head
◼
►
but I don't want to recapitulate now I
◼
►
angry tirades against the young asshat
◼
►
say we're gonna need a lot of Z if we
◼
►
keep doing this we're going to need to
◼
►
probably come back around to that at
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►
some point well I'm glad that you're
◼
►
taking notes in advance because I mean
◼
►
at first I thought that was going to
◼
►
I would never do anything knowledgeably
◼
►
knowingly to to inhibit us but I'm not
◼
►
you like to make notes I has already has
◼
►
an index cards i have something but
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►
here's the problem John this is the
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►
problem and I you know I do the the
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►
stuff they talk about things and like
◼
►
this is the problem people say to me oh
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►
you're being fancy you're being fancy by
◼
►
wanting to know why I want to have an
◼
►
hour and a half long meeting with you
◼
►
can't we just schedule a phone call and
◼
►
it could be what we're going to talk
◼
►
about life and it could be i'm just
◼
►
gonna fart it could just be your you
◼
►
know I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna pitch
◼
►
you about my new my new enterprise
◼
►
solution it's like you know what fucking
◼
►
write down what you want you want an
◼
►
hour and a half of my life like write
◼
►
down what you want to talk about is that
◼
►
yeah and here's the problem is that does
◼
►
not make me fancy it makes you stupid
◼
►
not me but you know no no I'm clearly
◼
►
the other people that's the problem and
◼
►
that's the real problem that's the
◼
►
problem that's this is literally the ad
◼
►
at behind the mountain the bigger
◼
►
problem the era can't see cause he's
◼
►
fucking around with scorpions and a
◼
►
my concern is that i'm not being fancy
◼
►
you are you are not taking it seriously
◼
►
if you if you not being you being every
◼
►
literally everyone else if you are if
◼
►
you are that upset about me wanting to
◼
►
know why you want a fucking hour and a
◼
►
the problem is you my friend you need to
◼
►
think about your priorities if you like
◼
►
you need to think about that because if
◼
►
you're not taking that time seriously
◼
►
why would anyone else and I think that's
◼
►
your move and you do this for a living
◼
►
you know you're not do this you don't
◼
►
you don't get late anymore look at you
◼
►
I know right this is not what you do and
◼
►
if you're gonna play a show Brando
◼
►
that's not even with a chair which era
◼
►
like the apocalypse now Marlon Brando
◼
►
Martin Brando all right he's learning a
◼
►
heart attack in a partner now got
◼
►
um I want to come back to this one
◼
►
company you taught me what you had most
◼
►
of what passes as as corporate business
◼
►
time most of what is happening in
◼
►
business is people just improvising ways
◼
►
to kill hours of the day between when
◼
►
they have to be at work and when they
◼
►
get to go home and so they only have an
◼
►
hour and a half for the work to do but
◼
►
they have to go to court work work work
◼
►
and a half hours of the day they're
◼
►
sending e-mails back and forth to each
◼
►
other and having meetings with each
◼
►
other and walking from cubicle to
◼
►
cubicle generating you know kinetic
◼
►
energy generating static electricity
◼
►
basically as a way of you know of
◼
►
looking like it's looking like they're
◼
►
working and you if you're going to
◼
►
generate six hours of static electricity
◼
►
it's going to be because you are because
◼
►
you're humping your couch or whatever
◼
►
like me I don't wanna environment as if
◼
►
I'm gonna be I'm gonna spend that six
◼
►
hours i want to spend in the bathtub i
◼
►
don't want to spend it sitting leaving
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►
on a water cooler but the problem is now
◼
►
you're the dick riding the dick when
◼
►
somebody says we're the dick and this is
◼
►
the problem is that somebody comes to
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►
you and out of nowhere you know they
◼
►
just I it's not a problem like I'm sure
◼
►
you play benefits for things you care
◼
►
about like when your pals house burns
◼
►
down or whatever you go happily play a
◼
►
benefit because the benefit tomorrow but
◼
►
somebody thinks it through they do a
◼
►
thing and they say here's the thing you
◼
►
know that one guy he's got a problem
◼
►
with complaints benefit I think it's a
◼
►
very long way from a guy with a hat and
◼
►
figured out how to get something on
◼
►
facebook and now that's a charity
◼
►
somehow I think that's automatic I think
◼
►
there should be a way to vet this and I
◼
►
i think that the the last thing they
◼
►
need is to have some kind of charity
◼
►
about their charity and you know really
◼
►
you know now and half a very long time
◼
►
for a phone call any oil in any case but
◼
►
this is the way these people work this
◼
►
is that sa somebody wrote a few years
◼
►
ago that was interesting about the
◼
►
difference between like you know the
◼
►
hammer swing and developers and the
◼
►
managers the managers are used to slice
◼
►
on their day in into one hour blocks of
◼
►
literal bullshit figuratively literal
◼
►
whereas forgot lakhs of bullshit hmmm I
◼
►
uh huh that's why I that's why I left
◼
►
Oklahoma and never went back
◼
►
that's right oh if you've ever been a
◼
►
little bullshit farmer you know that
◼
►
those days are hard time here the Dust
◼
►
Bowl was very hard on that I think Simon
◼
►
a book about that the shutters you get
◼
►
the ship cutters blockers but anyway but
◼
►
every time somebody cut the block of
◼
►
shit i'll be there and every time i was
◼
►
looking up but i was looking up
◼
►
the city or the guy know the former but
◼
►
the Chancellor of Germany who and I put
◼
►
Bismarck into into google who the first
◼
►
name that came up was biz markie that's
◼
►
a twenty-year-old failure and a lot of
◼
►
levels John I don't know what to do
◼
►
nobody cares about Bismarck anymore I
◼
►
want to come back the hats i wanna come
◼
►
back tattoos i have five added invented
◼
►
just look at women and girls we should
◼
►
do a whole thing on girls want to talk
◼
►
more about the ghouls and so what I'll
◼
►
do is I will capture all of this and and
◼
►
share with you i guess i could tell exit
◼
►
or something so you can look at our God
◼
►
week John 10 but advanced ok juggalos
◼
►
and Angelina Jolie was just you know you
◼
►
just as the moment as a mom strategy
◼
►
because I'm sure between now and the
◼
►
next time we talk you're gonna have
◼
►
another three by five card fill up with
◼
►
ideas I juggling knows he's crazy and
◼
►
that's kind of his deal
◼
►
I don't think Angelina Jolie really
◼
►
knows that she's crazy she has to feel
◼
►
like I'm what level I gotta go haha I'm
◼
►
silly I'm gonna sing karaoke level or
◼
►
like like I'm going to keep human blood
◼
►
oh yeah I think Angelina Jolie has to
◼
►
live in one live in one of the craziest
◼
►
bubbles in the universe and inside the
◼
►
bubble it's what makes it crazy is that
◼
►
it's relentlessly saying is a follow me
◼
►
it's a bombing fucking 72 degrees we
◼
►
just you just pick up kids like like
◼
►
like free free newspapers you just get
◼
►
them you collect them yet
◼
►
it's gonna be a weird bubble no I but
◼
►
she's in there she's in there buttering
◼
►
she's in there with some lightly melted
◼
►
butter she's just buttering perfectly
◼
►
toasted bread thinking this is all
◼
►
totally normal do to do to do i am a
◼
►
normal person i would if i could find
◼
►
out not a creepy way but i would find
◼
►
out where she lives and go nowhere near
◼
►
whatever playground she has access to
◼
►
because i think it's probably disappear
◼
►
I don't think she can control it anymore
◼
►
i think it I think it's like it's like
◼
►
it's like shoplifting or getting a
◼
►
tattoo which he has many of you can't
◼
►
you can't control anymore
◼
►
this is the thing when you have
◼
►
unlimited money and unlimited power
◼
►
like how that manifests itself whoo-hoo
◼
►
if my feeling is that if you use
◼
►
unlimited money and unlimited power and
◼
►
your and your instinct is to help kids
◼
►
you are a creep you know what I mean
◼
►
like that's creepy not really
◼
►
how would you know what will be a better
◼
►
use of that something work myself
◼
►
absolutely you should be living in a
◼
►
castle and you should have a place
◼
►
Rocking boys peeling grapes for you or
◼
►
like it lasers and elevators large tvs
◼
►
you should be like a mad scientist and a
◼
►
Jonathan Coulton song who you should not
◼
►
be any metaphorical no literally
◼
►
ok you should live in a jonathan coulton
◼
►
song you should not be living in an
◼
►
upper west side apartment who and have
◼
►
and be married to Woody Allen and I
◼
►
walking around with this roller walk
◼
►
around the stroller and coffee and act
◼
►
like that's fucking normal
◼
►
it's not normal but it's not normal and
◼
►
that doesn't even make sense if you had
◼
►
that kind of dough and you were not
◼
►
spending it on something completely
◼
►
insane that is a form of insanity
◼
►
you should have a Maserati with white
◼
►
leather carpet white leather floors are
◼
►
wait white leather carpeting Cena that
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►
you know what right there this is why
◼
►
there should be a charity for you
◼
►
somebody you know what get halfway to go
◼
►
start a charity for you because I think
◼
►
if you're if you're functioning on a
◼
►
level and i have to say this is a very
◼
►
different level than a lot of people are
◼
►
functioning on laterally and and
◼
►
hierarchically if you can come up with
◼
►
something like white leather carpeting
◼
►
there's no fucking reason that you
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should be living in that farmhouse here
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and you should be somewhere you should
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be somewhere much more interesting and
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potentially terrifying think about if
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James Franco and I switched places and I
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what I had James Franco's power i had
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his is like our credibility and his his
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ability to walk into a room blase and
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stoned and had everybody in the room
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think that he's the coolest permanent
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permanent sex face if I had permanent
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sex phase and was livings and was like
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commuting between New Haven and New York
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City and LA and fucking budapest or
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whatever james franco is doing this week
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if I had that power you think I wouldn't
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leather carpet I'm talking would and you
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know he's probably living in a loft
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space where he had some some friend of
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his cum spray paint a mural you know
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sprinting a mural that has like that has
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a six in it or something and and and
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well you know he's got a refrigerator
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and all that's in there is Cristal
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champagne and pabst blue ribbon he could
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have white leather carpet person is not
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even a question about it
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the thing is that i want to be up i want
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to go to a much higher level than that i
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would love to get to the white leather
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carpeting level and if I did I i would
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be an unholy combination of like Robert
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Evans and cthulhu I would be I would be
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causing so many problems for so many
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the line between Robert Evans and
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Cthulhu is not really that dick I think
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Robert Evans has more phones parties
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oh my god that would be so that you just
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you just you just gave me a vision in my
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horrific mythical character with white
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leather carpeting one another car for
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you bet your ass is and 30 phones on the
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30 phones all of them just ringing all
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the time program to rain
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they're not even phone calls no just
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this is it's like that it's like that
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scene in Boogie Nights where the where
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the kids throwing firecrackers huh in
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now exhale god I love that scene and
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shipped all over my house
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they're just old fashioned phone's
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constantly ringing everybody knows
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there's nobody there and not not ringing
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like ring ring ring but like a ringing
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randomly random pattern somewhere in
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your head even though he has literally
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been dead for years you're thinking it
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could be charlie bit hard it's maybe him
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pick-up-the-phone forgot to pick up the
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phone was Frank Sinatra fan of me he was
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not all right I want to come back to the
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jugglers and Frank Sinatra Frank Sinatra
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is not drawn this very bar took a shit
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on my wife's chest and it was a fucking
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honor take a shit right now if you have
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not had taken a shit on Ali McGraw
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lived she's the most beautiful woman
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I've ever met Charlie bhutan I gotta go
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we gotta go we gotta get this angelina
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jolie thing figured out and I week at
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for a variety of reasons we have to come
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back to tattoos but we should we should
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follow up on that later now that can't
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be a running the country right now jesus
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fucking christ the chili we gotta get
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this here's my problem i have i have six
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different kinds of canned chili
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downstairs and I don't want any of
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transporting Travis more senior chili
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one-time charges more as it tried to eat
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my chili and I stood a thwart his i
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stood i stood for the pantry door and
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but his band of his band of as burgers
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in Iraq ding-dongs ended up doing an end
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run and ate all my pasta
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here's here's a loser here's your new
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dismemberment plan he touched my fucking
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chill you lose a hand that's you need to
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send dismemberment plan
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yeah i hear the problem with the get
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ok it's like hormel or do you get like
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Arsenal silly from i'm always trying to
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find the perfect and chili I realize you
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can't put chili in a can
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I mean you can who but but that's not
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the chili than I want I want I want I
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want super good homemade chili who
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because they're too many things that can
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go wrong between a cow in a field and a
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can of chili and we're not getting where
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like here's a counter field he's eating
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grass sunny day and then there's
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something happens a lot of those beans
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are not getting treated like the Hope
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Diamond either i would not cry might be
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a I'm a beam i'm on a bean plant i'm in
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the infield it's sunny day and then
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something happens and boom I'm in a can
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of chili whatever that something is in
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between its I can't be good and you know
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I i like to eat cows who but i don't i
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want to eat a cow that was having a nice
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day and then somebody was like hey Cal
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hey buddy come here I want to show you
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something and then I was the last thing
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the cow ever saw and then those people
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were like oh this cow he gave his life
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for this meat and we should cherish it
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we should we should treat it like a like
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it is and put it into this handcrafted
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chili over that is so sacred and
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delicious that the cow is proud to have
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been a part of this chilly in retrospect
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if the cow could see this chilly this
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cow the cow would have been proud but I
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don't think that's what happens i think
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that they walk they take some cows and
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they shot them with electricity until
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they run into a fan blade and then they
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have push brooms and they push the all
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the stuff on the floor into like a chili
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kannur time and that's not cool that's
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hey that is that once a bit byzantine
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and extremely simplified which is pretty
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much what i would expect the process of
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making chili to be just accept that puts
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sure there's going to be a little
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cinnamon and a little mustard South
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Carolina I think that South Carolina
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barbecue they put mustard in it so that
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so they run the count to a fan blade and
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then they throw some Helmand they throw
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jar hellmann's in there and a and they
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feel like i canna cinnamon it's nothin
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nothin now that roots clock for chili
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quite likely ok if you had a really hot
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chili I could see little man is on top
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of movie some yogurt i could see that
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see see now that's the sacrament I'm
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talking about that's the chili account
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would be proud to be part of if you're
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going to if you're going to make a
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chilly you're going to break some cows
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and I think with the food is called a
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pairing if you were to take something
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like like a cool shooting their dairy
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product and put that alongside a chilly
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right sure sure like a yogurt like a
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Greek yogurt i guess so
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I mean it would have to be something
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now I see what you mean I went to the
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local I don't want to be this guy but I
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went to the local butcher shop here
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instead of going to the supermarket
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picture i went to Bob's butcher shop the
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other day and I talked to the weird
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Jeffrey Dahmer like son of the butcher
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and he talked my ear off about the meet
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past the point where I cared anymore to
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know about all the stuff that he knew
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about the meat but I brought them home
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and I was I was glad that he he that
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this guy that I was talking to that was
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telling me this meat he actually walked
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I thought that sounds like an episode of
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portlandia I know but he had actually
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walked on the field where the cows lived
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and he was here to a test that it was an
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ice field and that's all I ask how would
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you know if that's true i mean this guy
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seemed incapable of lying first of all
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because he's a butcher is simple
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I mean it's not that he's simple it's
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I don't think of I don't think of the
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butchering life as one with a lot of
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duplicity in it it seems like a stella
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cow that well they have to mislead the