Roderick on the Line

Ep. 13: "Then There Was Pump Chili"


  hello hey John how are you hey Merlin [TS]

  how's it going boom [TS]

  ok you ready I'm ready ready this is [TS]

  based on feedback from one really [TS]

  keeping track i think is our 5th listen [TS]

  are you ready [TS]

  we have five with knows well it's hard [TS]

  to I think some of them might be [TS]

  somebody downloading twice know like [TS]

  from their room and their moms room but [TS]

  you're getting feedback from them [TS]

  you ready for this yeah you ready for [TS]

  this I'm ready if you I'm like a [TS]

  passcode for this so i asked what do you [TS]

  ask a PMI I'm BMI okay i want to let you [TS]

  ready yeah haven't rehearsed this is [TS]

  gonna be from memory [TS]

  okay Roderick on the line [TS]

  oh that's nice that's a that's out of [TS]

  that is taking who are only melody from [TS]

  the long winners [TS]

  wow that's the way you put that so [TS]

  flatly is really a lot of charm out of [TS]

  it up actually songs realize how explain [TS]

  explain why i think i have i have the [TS]

  times that you don't drink an idea i [TS]

  think i told you which of your songs i [TS]

  think should be in which commercials [TS]

  yeah that's one of the things that [TS]

  remember you're the one I told you the [TS]

  no-brainer [TS]

  no I I probably wasn't listening because [TS]

  of the because of the you drink and I [TS]

  don't roam you're just watching mr. show [TS]

  video and your underwear in my living [TS]

  room [TS]

  yeah I was just like oh uh huh ah ok go [TS]

  ahead and what was the song that was [TS]

  going to be in commercial and i have [TS]

  worked out the exact instrumentation [TS]

  obviously wouldn't be you [TS]

  they would be paying I guess BMI or [TS]

  Joshua whoever owns 200 music you're my [TS]

  home is your modern music no its owner [TS]

  its offshore company it's an indian [TS]

  court company outside bad that the the [TS]

  kind of gets intoxicated or the the kind [TS]

  of telephones here helping kong you're [TS]

  ready dot dot the absolute completely [TS]

  redesigned for new generation integrated [TS]

  mp3 players [TS]

  their conditioning jetta 2012 more than [TS]

  shapes the pause is important and it [TS]

  should be moving the middle like a [TS]

  landrum like to get together [TS]

  yeah dude anyway it's not there's [TS]

  another 1i anyway first connect please [TS]

  get your feedback on I have literally to [TS]

  index cards les is gonna be a very [TS]

  difficult call for me up you know you [TS]

  could go into the archives [TS]

  oh you can start you start over at the [TS]

  pond I want more i'm happy i have the [TS]

  problem is i have another program that I [TS]

  do occasionally and i have as we say in [TS]

  the computer says oh guilt [TS]

  wait a minute that was pretty good what [TS]

  key is that in mm this is a guy i'm here [TS]

  Jonathan Coulton home studio now that's [TS]

  not it was funny [TS]

  how's it going clears out see your AG or [TS]

  what is that i picked up this harmonica [TS]

  and it seriously is a bass pro shops [TS]

  branded harmonicas fisherman's Monica [TS]

  the fish fish Monica management stereo [TS]

  back in the day it's in the key of C [TS]

  button but sadly as I put into my mouth [TS]

  the first time I realized that it tastes [TS]

  like baby powder oh yeah your left too I [TS]

  don't know why you would put baby powder [TS]

  on your harmonica is but ok that's what [TS]

  i think it was a blind melon Jefferson [TS]

  that used to do that on white wine lemon [TS]

  melon only know how to find that rittany [TS]

  so could you ask Jonathan for any [TS]

  harmonica please write the age of baby [TS]

  powder that's the sea is well you have a [TS]

  capo you can put UK poet [TS]

  uh-huh now I haven't died to keep going [TS]

  years [TS]

  lucky with my record my boy yeah college [TS]

  needed no he's not a single good note on [TS]

  this instrument I don't want to play the [TS]

  marine the from the halls of Montezuma [TS]

  keep your special musical episodes i got [TS]

  a lot of music that you cannot think I [TS]

  said it's about the Marine Corps theme [TS]

  is a really that's a that's a very [TS]

  useful piece of music to know emotions [TS]

  just ride this John start around the [TS]

  third hole mmm that's good she's that [TS]

  have to do with ping-pong ok no no easy [TS]

  ping-pong and you want to do an hour [TS]

  later and here's the thing i want you to [TS]

  blow in imagine imagine going up one [TS]

  note at a time low suck blow suck try [TS]

  that one hole at a time start with the [TS]

  third hole [TS]

  I can't play along against to this too [TS]

  much innuendo [TS]

  all right here we go you want to get [TS]

  back with yes that's not the Marine [TS]

  Corps being the inside of mobile with [TS]

  the Memphis blues again you ready to [TS]

  start [TS]

  ok so but the part I really like about [TS]

  that is and it's probably a lady singing [TS]

  there's a lady kool ad chorus it goes [TS]

  with the Marine Corps theme i don't [TS]

  think there are any women singing you [TS]

  want to be really nice look around at [TS]

  seven listen that room for a moment I [TS]

  always a floor moments the billy joel [TS]

  guy I'm listening was the hair guy who's [TS]

  a killer Joe Jerry Lee Lewis now I've [TS]

  been listening to fill the other one [TS]

  specters actor probably the greatest [TS]

  christmas album of all time a familiar [TS]

  with that Christmas gift to you or [TS]

  whatever it's called pretty sure the [TS]

  greatest christmas album of all time [TS]

  design I'm steamrollers o generations [TS]

  record i learned about mannheim [TS]

  steamroller background and i was very [TS]

  surprised can I tell you first of all [TS]

  you're not from man home [TS]

  no team there's no no mannheim [TS]

  steamroller that's a service market you [TS]

  got Colby my mom you know what I have an [TS]

  astronomer right small I've got you only [TS]

  have two cards left is where so now let [TS]

  me just really quickly because I got [TS]

  these two cards i had I i ate a pear [TS]

  tart and I'm a little goofy so I have [TS]

  gardens are fermented parrot are a no I [TS]

  don't drink [TS]

  gardening and night Marine Corps oh yeah [TS]

  your memory for short i'm gonna write [TS]

  USMC and I don't understand the way that [TS]

  you used by five cards entirely battery [TS]

  dies and leaves anything fat face [TS]

  you can't think that's fat writing [TS]

  really small writing a whole bunch of [TS]

  stuff really small on a three by five [TS]

  card is kind of big exactly the opposite [TS]

  would help you out of a century [TS]

  photograph of my desk [TS]

  I've seen your desk you reading my [TS]

  actual office office like no no you have [TS]

  that since the last time i was in San [TS]

  Francisco but i can guess what it's like [TS]

  there's like chew spit cups all around [TS]

  done since 1999's and uh you're talking [TS]

  about I capture that my captors rather [TS]

  than the rain dollars of man a poster on [TS]

  the wall of a white Lamborghini with a [TS]

  bikini girl leaning on it and you're [TS]

  like that poster with like 10 garages [TS]

  yeah it's different kind of supermodels [TS]

  in a driver china on it i am like it's [TS]

  like a wet early December CP it's just [TS]

  fucking like fucking Dickens in here [TS]

  it's all rights it's ready a little cold [TS]

  stone shape German assistant wearing a [TS]

  scarf and a top-10 morning and purples [TS]

  always the Barrows does he have a song [TS]

  with barry smith in it or something [TS]

  be sure it does I I used to tease him a [TS]

  lot about all his songs being about [TS]

  pirates and at one point at one point he [TS]

  said you know we don't have a single [TS]

  song about pirates [TS]

  listen to me i went to college where I [TS]

  said every one of your songs about [TS]

  pirates don't kid me his songs are about [TS]

  like secret pirates with master's [TS]

  degrees this is like pirates that have [TS]

  written a thesis and haven't lost a [TS]

  fucking limb mm um can I have written [TS]

  down on this is just between you me and [TS]

  the harmonic I've written or toilet [TS]

  paper and I don't know if you can [TS]

  discuss that I would like at some point [TS]

  to discuss the toilet paper issue have a [TS]

  lot of strong feelings about toilet [TS]

  paper as you can imagine you have an [TS]

  anecdote that they had me I believe in [TS]

  the parlance literally laughing out loud [TS]

  no rights [TS]

  yes I was [TS]

  actually you know that that that [TS]

  anecdote actually has now born further [TS]

  fruit they make thursday on the line [TS]

  okay well I'm come back to that they [TS]

  make fun of you in the book about that [TS]

  not make fun of me in the book there's [TS]

  actually a character in wildwood named [TS]

  after me and and and his name is derived [TS]

  from that toilet paper incident ok I [TS]

  think we should like everything that [TS]

  very small here so remaining also i like [TS]

  your pal i'm usually talking to that and [TS]

  talk over your bell when you get home I [TS]

  want to use the bellmore mhm and their [TS]

  other songs [TS]

  there's one song of yours i thought [TS]

  would be really good for a miller beer [TS]

  commercial [TS]

  I can't remember what but you know a lot [TS]

  of they all are ok everyone of America [TS]

  if not have anyone from miller is [TS]

  listening right now I know I'm not [TS]

  supposed to break down the fourth wall [TS]

  and talk directly going against our [TS]

  audience done but let's say [TS]

  hypothetically if someone from Miller [TS]

  hypothetically was receiving this [TS]

  communication any one of my songs about [TS]

  the Miller Brewing Company when walking [TS]

  rate to license for a nationwide [TS]

  American military that would be on why [TS]

  the Austrian there huh [TS]

  there's some songs that really get used [TS]

  a lot in those commercials and movies [TS]

  have you done if you ever noticed that [TS]

  you know what I mean wild seeker dude [TS]

  dr. rock dude i was at i was at my [TS]

  in-laws last night from my [TS]

  mother-in-law's birthday and the TV was [TS]

  on like it always is the other show [TS]

  called on the red carpet that's just [TS]

  about people literally being [TS]

  photographed on the red carpet [TS]

  that's a television show I was talking [TS]

  to the Colton's this morning about how I [TS]

  stop I don't know that is why don't know [TS]

  what you're talking about [TS]

  yeah I know it's their new york people [TS]

  and and until she's well she's really [TS]

  smart all these people are smart [TS]

  yeah that's that's the problem is in [TS]

  westchester county is that right [TS]

  no no they live in in brooklyn i would [TS]

  say about the time accident want to have [TS]

  an evil don't go back go ahead you have [TS]

  any longer York to mrs. mrs. Colton his [TS]

  real name i think you're here here's [TS]

  their name is Christine here is the the [TS]

  funny thing in college I live in Spokane [TS]

  Washington for a couple years and one of [TS]

  those years I lived in a house that we [TS]

  call the amityville because it was [TS]

  Barnes shaped like The Amityville Horror [TS]

  house and a bedroom and you woke up at [TS]

  three fifteen every night [TS]

  and we we were like it we tried in that [TS]

  way that you do when you're a sophomore [TS]

  in college like he popularized around [TS]

  campus that our house was a was a party [TS]

  house and that you should just refer to [TS]

  it as a medieval we all do a big party [TS]

  in a medieval is we can come on out at [TS]

  that I don't be like this like Graceland [TS]

  it just sounds awesome have a name for [TS]

  your house [TS]

  yeah and I think for for for a couple [TS]

  years even after I stopped living there [TS]

  they still kept calling the house a [TS]

  medieval I don't think I think it's like [TS]

  all like all colleges where in the [TS]

  eighties you can have 10 guys living in [TS]

  a big Victorian house and everybody's [TS]

  paying twenty five dollars a month rent [TS]

  that's those days are gone now and I'm [TS]

  sure there's a family of yuppies living [TS]

  in that house and have no idea the [TS]

  terrible things that happen their food [TS]

  is a lot like let's be honest it's like [TS]

  Amityville Horror right inside the [TS]

  library was made up as far as i know the [TS]

  blood that was on the walls that a [TS]

  medieval in spokane was all blood that [TS]

  that none of it seeped out of the walls [TS]

  it was all like splatter blood for me [TS]

  either from yet from you youthful [TS]

  hijinks we're pretty deep here [TS]

  bell yeah and you know a seven cents for [TS]

  writing small oh yeah anyway other one [TS]

  so Miller Beer so you know a lot of [TS]

  these to get some of these songs that [TS]

  you know for me it's died down one of my [TS]

  least favorite things eric clapton has [TS]

  ever done and I have a lot and where do [TS]

  you start that list well you know he's [TS]

  one of those ones that have to be honest [TS]

  Jeff Beck and jeff beck is I think jeff [TS]

  beck is important because he helped us [TS]

  get Eddie Van Halen put things back on [TS]

  after morir dinner [TS]

  I'm not gonna sit here and defend jeff [TS]

  beck don't touch don't defend you what [TS]

  there's that I mean there's some it's [TS]

  guys elements but it's a good guitar [TS]

  player let's just leave it at that [TS]

  we're confident in the connection really [TS]

  be into back ola and I was just like [TS]

  I've listened to it I'm like I'm [TS]

  blow-by-blow like we don't homer and I [TS]

  was like I just yeah I'm just as you [TS]

  know what is it skipped a generation i [TS]

  just could not not like the yardbirds [TS]

  but I couldn't get into that all that [TS]

  all that music that you're supposed to [TS]

  like none of it's like the yardbirds are [TS]

  not did not age well it's now lets up on [TS]

  three [TS]

  so you can make a lot of dough and he [TS]

  throws out a Budweiser commercial nor [TS]

  was it michelob I don't remember food [TS]

  remember the time for a while and [TS]

  budweiser i think was was hiring [TS]

  actually hiring the actual talent behind [TS]

  a lot of famous songs and getting them [TS]

  to do them like to the tune of that one [TS]

  Budweiser song oh I think Ronnie James [TS]

  Dio did one to the tune of rainbow in [TS]

  the dark [TS]

  speaking of ronnie james dio love that i [TS]

  was walking through JFK yesterday [TS]

  airport and they're playing a they're [TS]

  playing christmas carols how we back and [TS]

  I'm walking to the airport in there you [TS]

  know it's like rockin Christmas carols [TS]

  like rockin Santa Claus new year [TS]

  whatever i'm walking through in the end [TS]

  the music turned up a little bit louder [TS]

  than you would then you normally get [TS]

  music in public spaces who [TS]

  and anyway and I and I hear this voice [TS]

  singing christmas colory I'm like I know [TS]

  that voice whose voice is that [TS]

  walking I've got my bags i'm listening [TS]

  with one year and I'm like broccoli [TS]

  bulimic don't know anything about your [TS]

  allowance this is over the general just [TS]

  over the general PA and I'm thinking [TS]

  rainbow in the dark [TS]

  that's Ronnie James Dio and that's [TS]

  Ronnie James Dio see a christmas carol [TS]

  it can't be [TS]

  I haven't had a chance to google whether [TS]

  or not he did but his voice is [TS]

  unmistakable [TS]

  but it was associate Christmas version [TS]

  it was not rainbow in the dark yells hey [TS]

  it was it was it was Ronnie seeing in [TS]

  his rainbow in the dark voice it was [TS]

  from that area you could do the [TS]

  production queues were from her that it [TS]

  was was it like a traditional like [TS]

  Ritchie Blackmore kind of all time funky [TS]

  song [TS]

  no no it wasn't it was like Rudolph's [TS]

  rockin Christmas want to look this up [TS]

  that's right was that's terrifying there [TS]

  were like three things about it that [TS]

  were terrible and it made me think at [TS]

  first that first one before i could [TS]

  quite place his voice was like is that [TS]

  David Coverdale it has to be David [TS]

  Coverdale he's the only metal vocalist [TS]

  with with so little taste the hinge on [TS]

  wed could do a hell of it do it but but [TS]

  it turned out I mean I swear to you it [TS]

  was it sounded funny [TS]

  you couldn't there's nobody else's voice [TS]

  I think he's pretty he first of all [TS]

  interviews he seems really cool when I [TS]

  didn't say so he passed you did huh just [TS]

  reason my friend my friend Matt did [TS]

  something and I think it was 2004 that I [TS]

  helped out with when you remember i will [TS]

  all of it was crazy about the howard [TS]

  dean oh yes we started a site called and [TS]

  asked was because it was the first big [TS]

  internet you know driven thing like it [TS]

  was the famous first like giant internet [TS]

  president so we started do for America [TS]

  and we had a whole thing website about [TS]

  running still running for president and [TS]

  like everything going horribly awry he [TS]

  threw a priest in a river there was a [TS]

  gonna be a woman to me out for look out [TS]

  you have to be born in America to be to [TS]

  run for president [TS]

  it's see I thought he was from New York [TS]

  it's very New York accent when he talks [TS]

  Oh running view is an english i'm almost [TS]

  I know exactly I'm just almost but I'm [TS]

  almost positive these from New York i [TS]

  will check this out and find out where [TS]

  this is going to be awkward for me if he [TS]

  is if he is an American he should [TS]

  somebody is listening to this right now [TS]

  I'm going you guys are just your candle [TS]

  with in campbell Vivian Campbell is oh [TS]

  my god do is American eastern New [TS]

  Hampshire yeah that is really love the [TS]

  granite state that's awkward for me I [TS]

  guess I'm just never know you're there [TS]

  are certain people who wear a lot of [TS]

  chainmail you just assume are from [TS]

  England because that's where people will [TS]

  wear chain mail or if you go to goodwill [TS]

  in England you're going to literally [TS]

  find chainmail with short email and like [TS]

  leather gauntlets and stuff and deal [TS]

  wore a lot of dawn what had got let's [TS]

  see is a tall man you know they've been [TS]

  called health because he's a little bit [TS]

  very very small guy and I just assumed [TS]

  he was English [TS]

  I'm so embarrassed my metal credibility [TS]

  just when John let me talk you off the [TS]

  ledge my friend I i think that i thought [TS]

  the same thing for a long time because [TS]

  all I ever heard was will mainly rainbow [TS]

  black sabbath and di I mean no elf but I [TS]

  mean I think it's very easy just look at [TS]

  the who is running with right now but I [TS]

  mean come on birmingham's finance [TS]

  digital cameras in heaven and hell [TS]

  what do you think course i think that is [TS]

  one of the most underrated records of [TS]

  forever and certainly I would just go [TS]

  down and just say it is easily one of [TS]

  the best buy [TS]

  except albums ever you did well that's [TS]

  quite a statement but you didn't you [TS]

  didn't smoke a ton of pot and sit around [TS]

  like dark dingy places with metal heads [TS]

  and and get all dark did you I don't I i [TS]

  never think of you as being like even [TS]

  like melons are stoner no i'm not a [TS]

  Melvin stoner I never was yeah Melvin [TS]

  stone whatever you never did it ever [TS]

  since i was i was a Melvin stone her for [TS]

  quite awhile there you like to say it [TS]

  seated him and like and like like not [TS]

  chatting just sitting in everybody's [TS]

  staring at a at a at a wet spot on the [TS]

  floor you know and not not like happy [TS]

  that drugs for happy drugs for sad [TS]

  you're eating algee and lemon tree house [TS]

  together [TS]

  I mean when I yeah when I first smoke [TS]

  but later on no it was all like going to [TS]

  the world's coming to it coming to an [TS]

  end and where the work you know [TS]

  yeah that's it the apocalypse is [TS]

  happening in it's just going to be us [TS]

  sitting here watching watching some guy [TS]

  play in a world of warcraft try to think [TS]

  i did have different bands for different [TS]

  drugs I i think i did smoke a lot of [TS]

  part one point but it was not I don't [TS]

  have one specific kind of band for hat [TS]

  for hash it was Joy Division four women [TS]

  susan the Banshees mom and the story I [TS]

  told you before I will always associate [TS]

  the call table nitrates rush locker room [TS]

  with England mom steamy see I told you [TS]

  you you you went through [TS]

  mmm nitrate phase but you know that's [TS]

  like a gay sex drunk [TS]

  yeah i know i didn't know that until [TS]

  it's too late um yeah no no it's a cheap [TS]

  I you by the sex store when you're you [TS]

  know a kid and you can go in there you [TS]

  know I'm up when you're a kid at the sex [TS]

  store [TS]

  I don't think you understand the story [TS]

  you're trying to tell me right now you [TS]

  know what kind to say for somebody who [TS]

  used two different kinds of influence i [TS]

  do not need a lot of attitude from you [TS]

  about this [TS]

  alright alright I'm stopping off you [TS]

  know you let a little nitrous but the [TS]

  sex the more than shapes that's where it [TS]

  was sold you go in there in it with a [TS]

  cut rush [TS]

  yeah well it did you like walk past all [TS]

  walking adolescence front eyes front [TS]

  don't look at the dildos just going here [TS]

  for the I get your ex extra I should [TS]

  have nothing an extremely tight sailor [TS]

  suit I'm not gonna lie to you but you [TS]

  know and the things I've been working [TS]

  out a lot you know home yeah [TS]

  yep yep also had a you know what's weird [TS]

  paid for it with a roll of silver [TS]

  dollars then I happen to have you pulled [TS]

  out a yeah my zipper terrible [TS]

  yeah anyway ah that's what that story [TS]

  right was snorting snorting rush at [TS]

  ac/dc concert and I i thought i was in [TS]

  an obtrusive place i thought i was you [TS]

  know nice and high up in the stands [TS]

  turns out i was just a few feet from the [TS]

  cannons oh hello [TS]

  but the phone's about to rock and are [TS]

  nothing but instead of playing headache [TS]

  you get with this stuff just like we [TS]

  were there is the invaders ACDC this is [TS]

  more like they're whatever maximum [TS]

  overdrive past the primary i was there [TS]

  to England but yeah anybody who never [TS]

  really had a prime arm and his videos on [TS]

  YouTube are so worth watching [TS]

  so this is the this is the thing about [TS]

  people who lived in the United States [TS]

  who like get that you cannot get like do [TS]

  you cannot understand what it was like [TS]

  to be a kid in Alaska in the seventies [TS]

  and eighties because everyone in Alaska [TS]

  loved heavy metal but no heavy metal [TS]

  band I with the exception of the [TS]

  Scorpions no heavy metal band deemed [TS]

  Alaska worth a stop on their tour so we [TS]

  were sitting up there starved for for [TS]

  ac/dc to come through or van Halen to [TS]

  come through and and all we got were the [TS]

  third tier metal bands we would get you [TS]

  know like Dokken would come through or [TS]

  rat would come through like they're [TS]

  gonna change [TS]

  I mean I those were great the those were [TS]

  great at the time they they scratch the [TS]

  edge but I talked to talk to people now [TS]

  my age were like oh yeah I saw like it [TS]

  was mostly 7r and dry for 20 minutes and [TS]

  see like you know van Halen anyone [TS]

  invasion didn't happen impossible no [TS]

  chance though the one exception that was [TS]

  Ozzy did come in 1980 with randy rhoads [TS]

  and played a concert at West High School [TS]

  Auditorium in Anchorage it was the [TS]

  biggest event I mean it's an event [TS]

  people still talk about Ozzie at West [TS]

  High Command any reslife at a high [TS]

  school auditorium [TS]

  and i could not go because I was in [TS]

  seventh grade and my mom said no you [TS]

  can't go to a heavy metal concert and [TS]

  what was amazing is that a simulcast or [TS]

  not I'm sorry they didn't broadcast the [TS]

  concert but on the local heavy metal [TS]

  rock star not heavy metal but the local [TS]

  album-oriented rock station the djs like [TS]

  went to the concert and just live [TS]

  broadcast from the parking lot [TS]

  we're here at the Ozzie show dude [TS]

  everybody's going in [TS]

  it's your ways and stickers now we're [TS]

  gonna play some more Ozzy whoa dude [TS]

  antigen and and so i sat at home in my [TS]

  air force flight suit my orange Air [TS]

  Force jump suit that I wore at that era [TS]

  all the time [TS]

  anytime I wasn't in school clothes i was [TS]

  in this orange flight suit and i sat at [TS]

  home and listen to the Ozzie concert [TS]

  process like a scene from a strip club [TS]

  like a sec okay guys should see it the [TS]

  bosoms on these legos know these girls [TS]

  are totally very good and then reading [TS]

  like jokes from playboy like that's [TS]

  appropriate [TS]

  yeah and so I was really good at all and [TS]

  a lot of my friends went and saw the [TS]

  show and you know and still I'm sure [TS]

  still if we if we SAT and talked for an [TS]

  hour they'd be like oh dude you totally [TS]

  missed it [TS]

  so anyway but so we never saw any of the [TS]

  grey rock shows none of those bands ever [TS]

  came to Alaska except the scorpions who [TS]

  came to alaska every single time because [TS]

  those guys are the those guys are the [TS]

  working man of of heavy metal rock [TS]

  wasn't it was it to get to Asia where [TS]

  yeah they wanted to pan or something but [TS]

  they stopped and played a sold-out show [TS]

  at are at our big arena the solvent [TS]

  arena and and actually I think there's [TS]

  some there's some Alaska there's some [TS]

  Alaska recordings on worldwide live the [TS]

  Scorpions famous eighties live album [TS]

  with that idea with the kiss style [TS]

  screaming audience at it in right it [TS]

  really really the audience was stolen [TS]

  it's about cost minor is that correct [TS]

  like spotless mind you I said I could [TS]

  finish reading The Canterbury Tales but [TS]

  i can't tell you how much time I spent [TS]

  with the guitar for the practicing [TS]

  musician article 101 like you that [TS]

  intervening roxy is the only well I by [TS]

  massacre both of them but I spent so [TS]

  much time just on no one like you can [TS]

  have a great that was crying like back [TS]

  quick right now you know that he really [TS]

  a guitar player was faster she not not [TS]

  not really training as this not dieter [TS]

  dieter das Dorfman Moses named get a [TS]

  cell wall [TS]

  I know this is a guy this is a guy yeah [TS]

  i know is that weakens our attack i saw [TS]

  i saw them in spokane a few years later [TS]

  and and I was you know you used to get [TS]

  right up on the wall because I was a big [TS]

  kid I I I could I could force my way [TS]

  right to the front even when I 17 18 [TS]

  years old and right up there with all [TS]

  the tough guys and I was at a scorpion [TS]

  show and he looked at me I'm i can write [TS]

  over and looked right at me was like [TS]

  yeah rock dude you you dude rock and I [TS]

  was like we rock [TS]

  du bist rockin and now I don't even [TS]

  remember his name a-are you talk about [TS]

  the guitar player look at the guy with [TS]

  the white explorer with the black stripe [TS]

  right there are 2 i'm gonna break my [TS]

  rule any of our five listeners were [TS]

  women [TS]

  nobody awesome idea sobs but his jabs [TS]

  right on the test [TS]

  that's the thing over pronounce that a [TS]

  little bit of money is your jobs maybe [TS]

  that's maybe how he pronounces it but he [TS]

  called him with Matthias jabs anyway so [TS]

  yeah there's a problem here is that [TS]

  there's a detailed color timeline for [TS]

  this on the wikipedia page is they're [TS]

  all the different guitar players of [TS]

  hello everybody Rudolph shaker you got [TS]

  the ahmardians yobs or sometimes jobs [TS]

  friends over for i think was they tried [TS]

  to make him the guitar player and no I'm [TS]

  sorry I might get Michael Schenker [TS]

  friend is trying to Michael shaker to be [TS]

  the main char player and he kept like [TS]

  screwing up he couldn't he couldn't [TS]

  couldn't stay off the drugs or something [TS]

  and so they got Matthias jabs in there [TS]

  and he's a he's a workhorse [TS]

  I was a big scorpions fan is up how [TS]

  could you not be they were they were the [TS]

  great yeah that's not the time they were [TS]

  and they were but they were also a [TS]

  little weird and it's a single oh yeah I [TS]

  ever tell you about the time I played in [TS]

  the church basement with one hour [TS]

  practice they were talking about that [TS]

  that was the name of the band won our [TS]

  practice you have a name [TS]

  come into play at somebody's and you [TS]

  know it's the dumb story but you know me [TS]

  you know I can't sing now imagine me [TS]

  singing still loving you [TS]

  we try to look for her stones about I'm [TS]

  I'm sorry those tapes don't survive when [TS]

  God again all the way from the start [TS]

  Andrew was not an awesome song I the [TS]

  days that things that is how i love that [TS]

  the Indigo's mama pride has beaten long [TS]

  so strong that i can make it to [TS]

  determine rare bell what a great name so [TS]

  good so did I think i'm thinking of you [TS]

  Dierks Neider that was the night from a [TS]

  centrifuge from exception and he looked [TS]

  a little bit like Lars Eller ecstatic [TS]

  got two balls to the wall man I wasn't [TS]

  the thing is you know the reason that [TS]

  music was so resonant i think at the [TS]

  time was and this is something that we [TS]

  forget a or at least I find other people [TS]

  forget I don't forget i remember is that [TS]

  those were real heavy cold war years who [TS]

  and the fact that these bands were [TS]

  German gave their heavy metal a kind of [TS]

  deeper import you know they're there was [TS]

  more frisian to their apocalyptic [TS]

  scenarios in there there big power [TS]

  balance because they were facing [TS]

  annihilation at the hands of the red [TS]

  army at a moment's notice [TS]

  right i mean that was 99 lift balloons [TS]

  that hole when I was a great pop song [TS]

  but maybe they're going to the music of [TS]

  a Falco exactly pleased about it when he [TS]

  said amadeus amadeus oks amadeus amadeus [TS]

  amadeus at am XL is also dead [TS]

  yes Harvick past well let me let me let [TS]

  me just take that in a little bit of [TS]

  mrs. dash to it i had a max lxl two on [TS]

  one side of it was talk with 3 by Falco [TS]

  and on the other side was Robert [TS]

  Palmer's [TS]

  the lone thicket to love right that's a [TS]

  great mix tape or a great double side [TS]

  that was an outlier for me in 1985 or [TS]

  whatever that was that was a little over [TS]

  an hour [TS]

  I have so much to follow up on here John [TS]

  anything but with the way that you refer [TS]

  to people what made you say when someone [TS]

  has died you say they pass and the south [TS]

  and it and it's it's believed that when [TS]

  Jesus dies i think that you know I this [TS]

  is this has come up a lot recently [TS]

  because of my mom was going through a [TS]

  phase talking about the baby where she [TS]

  would refer to the baby having bm's and [TS]

  I was like don't stop saying that okay [TS]

  with you know it's okay to say boo [TS]

  she's like the baby had three beams [TS]

  today I'm like a tad and that makes me [TS]

  very uncomfortable I feel like a minute [TS]

  I feel like I'm in some kind of hospital [TS]

  again like like not not a hospital like [TS]

  a medical hospital but like an insane [TS]

  asylum where you would talk about what [TS]

  you would talk about people's BM right [TS]

  like you did something you would talk [TS]

  about an adult who was proved successful [TS]

  it seems like menses it's one of those [TS]

  things where it's at yeah just to you [TS]

  know it's a it's a it's a word that's [TS]

  just a little too technical [TS]

  you know i love bolus I like bolus i [TS]

  love that word olas I think it's a kind [TS]

  of poo [TS]

  oh honey when you shop around past yeah [TS]

  it's not it's it always sounds to me [TS]

  like and it's just too little too [TS]

  it's like it's like you would say it's [TS]

  it's like a doctor talking to somebody [TS]

  to talk to you about your aunt [TS]

  oh she passed yeah pastor passed away i [TS]

  think that's that's to where you say you [TS]

  say somebody died died she died I think [TS]

  it must be a southern thing I picked up [TS]

  yeah well the south is always very [TS]

  euphemistic in the South almost [TS]

  everything is communicated by what is [TS]

  not said I I that might that sounds [TS]

  ridiculous but I really really believe [TS]

  that as somebody who literally never [TS]

  stops talking [TS]

  I was having a lot always had trouble [TS]

  communicating with people because [TS]

  everything smoke there's a certain kind [TS]

  of code isn't just about you know racing [TS]

  class that has a lot to do with it but [TS]

  there's so much that's based on what you [TS]

  never say right and you kept talking [TS]

  past [TS]

  you kept talking right through that I [TS]

  you know yeah yeah but I mean you know [TS]

  it's not even just like the super easy [TS]

  passive-aggressive suburban stuff like [TS]

  there's just certain kinds of stuff that [TS]

  nobody needs to say and the fact that [TS]

  nobody says it is what makes a powerful [TS]

  right right [TS]

  it was like that Alaska to some extent [TS]

  right no Alaska culturally is much more [TS]

  like the the things that the things that [TS]

  don't need to be said are that you're a [TS]

  fucking faggot food you know like shut [TS]

  up and get out of my way type of theirs [TS]

  you know what I mean like uh there's no [TS]

  there's no there is no cultural milieu [TS]

  in Alaska that needs to be navigated [TS]

  it's just like are you going to bulldoze [TS]

  that acre of land or should I had our [TS]

  unity is your photos are we going to use [TS]

  my bulldozer how's that distinct from [TS]

  Manhattan [TS]

  oh well in manhattan now you know like [TS]

  in the new york city area cause I mean [TS]

  there's a certain kind of famous not [TS]

  candidness but but certainly like I get [TS]

  the fuck out of my way [TS]

  kind of but in New York you're dealing [TS]

  with the the reason for it is that there [TS]

  are 10 million people here all trying to [TS]

  use the same public restroom at the same [TS]

  time right so you're so so you have to [TS]

  you have to say what's on your mind [TS]

  because you have you have other people [TS]

  to navigate in Alaska you have the [TS]

  opposite problem everyone has one square [TS]

  miles of land that could be theirs alone [TS]

  and so the question is much more like [TS]

  why are you here why are you why are you [TS]

  sharing why are you breathing my air if [TS]

  you don't have a reason then you don't [TS]

  you move on you know it isn't the same [TS]

  as here where it's like you know we both [TS]

  have to stand on this team corner of the [TS]

  sidewalk right now and so there better [TS]

  not be many mistaking like who's bo [TS]

  you're smelling type of both of them [TS]

  seem very stressful both both of those [TS]

  kinds of ways of living you know depends [TS]

  on what your thresholds for other people [TS]

  none i mean like it's just I'm [TS]

  constantly anxious about things like [TS]

  that [TS]

  we'll see then in Alaska you would go on [TS]

  fun because you never have to see [TS]

  another person if you don't want [TS]

  but like you know I would have to see [TS]

  the person at the general store well [TS]

  that's okay that's a good example [TS]

  because going to like a 7-eleven in [TS]

  florida i felt so much more sense of [TS]

  danger in Menace at a suburban 7 11 then [TS]

  I felt like walking through really [TS]

  sketchy parts of San Francisco it feels [TS]

  much more happiness like from the chili [TS]

  dogs themselves or from just the doing [TS]

  without you even I don't get hot food [TS]

  from 7-11 anymore [TS]

  even I have stopped that is really into [TS]

  the called a biggin hahaha this is an [TS]

  implied ' before the you for beginners [TS]

  the is the hot dog wrapped in a burrito [TS]

  no John it's a microwavable cheese [TS]

  burger with chili on if memory serves [TS]

  oh right this is a time when I my friend [TS]

  Sam and I would hang out and talk to the [TS]

  guy at 7-eleven that's what we would do [TS]

  we would hang out and talk to the guy at [TS]

  7-eleven because he's from New York he [TS]

  had stories we have stories right huh [TS]

  yeah we used to get two hot two chili [TS]

  dogs for ninety-nine cents at 7-eleven [TS]

  and you could put as much chili like [TS]

  pump chilly chilly out of a pump and [TS]

  cheese out of a pump as you could fit so [TS]

  you put the two chili dogs on one of [TS]

  those paper trails chili sounds like a [TS]

  german porn movie I felt this little [TS]

  chilly [TS]

  it wasn't an aerosmith record pump [TS]

  chilly but but you put these two hot [TS]

  dogs inside this this paper boat and [TS]

  then you could fill it you could fill [TS]

  the boat up so the chili dogs were not [TS]

  just covered in jelly but floating in [TS]

  chile and then put like where i got like [TS]

  a new yorker cartoon of a desert island [TS]

  except there's a hot dog in the middle [TS]

  especially if there's a little amount of [TS]

  hot dog under there and then and then [TS]

  you can put a melted nacho cheese over [TS]

  the whole top don't think you're [TS]

  supposed to I think that I don't think [TS]

  that she's ever intended to go on your [TS]

  Island dog but I'm telling you for [TS]

  ninety-nine cents you could you could [TS]

  avail yourself of any of the condiments [TS]

  and if you didn't if you didn't float [TS]

  those hot dogs in in a in a chilly see [TS]

  who and then cover it with nacho cheese [TS]

  you were not exploiting early on your [TS]

  money on the table [TS]

  that's right that's right [TS]

  this is your big trick you could get you [TS]

  can basically get 6,000 calories of of [TS]

  cheap of cheap ground something right [TS]

  that pump chili chili is five today [TS]

  won't you please do something about the [TS]

  weight of my cow right i mean once upon [TS]

  a time a cow lived in a field and a [TS]

  grass and then there was pumped chili [TS]

  and whatever happened between that count [TS]

  there was booked between that cow and [TS]

  that pump on the counter of an anchorage [TS]

  7-eleven [TS]

  however distance that cow had to travel [TS]

  to become pump chilly there are a few [TS]

  steps in there I don't want to think [TS]

  about this kind of back this goes back [TS]

  to your simple butcher right that's [TS]

  right that's right the simple but the [TS]

  butcher that wrote the new the cow [TS]

  yeah and let my favorite sandwich [TS]

  Morrison book then there was pumped [TS]

  chili [TS]

  no no I mean that of a simple butcher I [TS]

  think that's a simple Butcher was a hell [TS]

  of a that was a hell that I mean I'm [TS]

  getting to know my butcher now right [TS]

  actually but you told this is the end [TS]

  one of our early visit you you want to [TS]

  make sure you understood that [TS]

  how about how this became pump chili and [TS]

  you want to know things about the [TS]

  relationship of the steer you wouldn't [TS]

  know you know in detail right at a [TS]

  certain point in in masticating mean [TS]

  machine masticating this countdown into [TS]

  a form where it could be pumped out with [TS]

  a pump that there are too many [TS]

  opportunities for wraps fallen just [TS]

  before I felt a cow there there are [TS]

  there are not many edible animals that [TS]

  are more solid than when I was not a cow [TS]

  it's a steer a steer is hard to move [TS]

  right after our to get to get a steer to [TS]

  the point where it could be pumped in a [TS]

  suburb is a lot of abstraction telling [TS]

  you I'm telling you it has to be you [TS]

  don't do that are a couple of swipes I [TS]

  mean that a lot of food and then shoot [TS]

  again and then shoot again and then [TS]

  buried in the ground for a year and then [TS]

  reconstituted like games yeah like [TS]

  kimchi it's basically pump chili is the [TS]

  kimchi up [TS]

  I don't please stop some amazing let go [TS]

  there just to see what it looks like i [TS]

  know you want to go there right now and [TS]

  we're right they want to float a couple [TS]

  hot dogs in this might be one of the [TS]

  zipper memories but it isn't it like 10 [TS]

  here's another question about having me [TS]

  hot isn't like ridiculously hot I mean [TS]

  in terms of temperature it's like a [TS]

  hundred eighty degrees when it comes out [TS]

  of the top when it comes out of there [TS]

  but I mean you have to stick this down [TS]

  their caregiver and he's heard that [TS]

  paper you carry like a paper doily kind [TS]

  of thing [TS]

  well that's the UK and paper doily and [TS]

  then you're trying to eat it while your [TS]

  friend drives right it's the there's no [TS]

  think about a 7-eleven there's no place [TS]

  to sit there and eat it I can't actually [TS]

  when I get a hot dog I get a hot like [TS]

  they are occasionally 49 cents that big [TS]

  the quarter pounder and I'll are half [TS]

  powder i guess i'm not sure anyway it's [TS]

  a very very large hot choc rounder [TS]

  should make choices and rugby by should [TS]

  pitch it but was wearing an extremely [TS]

  tight sailors it huh [TS]

  it's not being able nitrates in front of [TS]

  the 7-eleven [TS]

  well I showed a half-pound weiner up [TS]

  that's the castro are you wearing a [TS]

  really tight sailor suit and a dog [TS]

  collar connected to a boombox it was [TS]

  playing giorgio moroder could take it to [TS]

  connect typically oh my god Jon now with [TS]

  this in Alaska [TS]

  oh yeah i mean not that my willingness [TS]

  to eat things that are that were pumped [TS]

  to me really dropped off after i left [TS]

  Alaska like I knew somebody that worked [TS]

  at an Arby's that said if you take the [TS]

  roast beef you take the big roast beef [TS]

  out of the freezer at an Arby's yeah [TS]

  like plastic in case roast beef that [TS]

  they that they micro slice and then fry [TS]

  on a little hot fryer thing he said if [TS]

  you take that if you take that roast [TS]

  beef out of the freezer and leave it on [TS]

  the counter to thaw overnight in the [TS]

  morning it's just a bag of liquid it's [TS]

  just a bag of life I've heard I've heard [TS]

  effort that quote unquote roasted [TS]

  equally of our be seen by the way arbys [TS]

  is an acronym [TS]

  did you know that I think a background [TS]

  in pakistan for America's this country's [TS]

  best yogurt [TS]

  yes America's roast beef yes sir yes oh [TS]

  yes I think that's a backronym I had my [TS]

  girlfriend and uh [TS]

  we talk about when we talk about member [TS]

  last time my friend of mine who wasn't [TS]

  out of the closet yet who screeched [TS]

  about it being a country western [TS]

  Albemarle that we talked about yeah we [TS]

  did talk about that might've been [TS]

  offline but but he was the manager like [TS]

  an assistant manager there and my [TS]

  girlfriend work there and there's no [TS]

  there's like three stinks that food [TS]

  stinks like there's the food stink of [TS]

  like seafood seafood based italian [TS]

  restaurant there's the dumpster at a KFC [TS]

  and then there's anybody who's ever [TS]

  worked in an arby's and there's the [TS]

  smell of that arbys i have been told [TS]

  that quote unquote roast beef is not [TS]

  even like steak on quality it's it's [TS]

  like compressed awful and variety meats [TS]

  a lot more truffle would awful you [TS]

  pronounce it differently awful i say [TS]

  okay I'm gonna say offal and variety [TS]

  meats that's what I heard and it's like [TS]

  an Australian the Australian to give to [TS]

  get from a cow in a field you like [TS]

  eating Daniel I'm part you would have to [TS]

  go through a pump and I'm thinking that [TS]

  the pump me they use at arbys is like [TS]

  some kind of pool pump like the same [TS]

  pump that you would use to like draining [TS]

  swimming pool [TS]

  it's like remove frogs and leaves yeah [TS]

  you just have to I mean you have to get [TS]

  you have to get the cow into the hopper [TS]

  first of all ya got the call through the [TS]

  aperture into the hopper and then it's [TS]

  got to go through 34 first time here [TS]

  stealing your little kid his stories [TS]

  about hot dogs have fingers and I'm like [TS]

  they don't stop the line like when [TS]

  somebody's nose goes in or whatever and [TS]

  you know whether or not that's true [TS]

  there's certainly a lot going on with [TS]

  the processing of food at every level [TS]

  that is just horrifying but what freaks [TS]

  me out is the number number of people [TS]

  between that count the pump and the [TS]

  number of parts of that process like [TS]

  it'd be one thing if there were away [TS]

  like some kind of a chuck jones like [TS]

  wile e coyote machine we have a final at [TS]

  the top and a 7-eleven chili pump at the [TS]

  bottom and somebody drops in a steer and [TS]

  a little bit of a you know cayenne [TS]

  cinnamon in my case [TS]

  yeah and then some tail gets in there [TS]

  Jackson eyelashes in there but it's gone [TS]

  because you saw it all happen it's [TS]

  chilly like you know your standards [TS]

  should not be super high with chili to [TS]

  begin with and if you're getting out of [TS]

  a pump but there are too many people who [TS]

  have too many people in the process of [TS]

  the production who have lost the [TS]

  relationship between what they're doing [TS]

  and the fact that at a certain point [TS]

  somebody's going to eat it [TS]

  I see this even happening when I'm [TS]

  making a salad at my house stuff falls [TS]

  on the floor and the distance between [TS]

  the counter where I'm making it and the [TS]

  table where I'm going to serve it to [TS]

  other people is far enough which is [TS]

  six-and-a-half feet that I go back [TS]

  that's fine i mean there's a little dirt [TS]

  on it whatever it's my dirt came off of [TS]

  me so it's my dander whatever not that I [TS]

  don't want to discourage you from eating [TS]

  at my house because this this is just [TS]

  part of the process we all good we all [TS]

  do this a certain amount of certain [TS]

  amount of dander makes it into all food [TS]

  but the more people between the couch [TS]

  eating dandelions and the pump chili the [TS]

  more dander the more differences a lot [TS]

  of a lot of unnecessary extraneous [TS]

  stander yeah and this is why I although [TS]

  instinctively I hate people who are [TS]

  precious about their food particularly [TS]

  urban urban people who want to talk [TS]

  about where their food touch about that [TS]

  a local force [TS]

  oh my god I'm so I i want to get into a [TS]

  fistfight with every local or I meet and [TS]

  that makes me a real pic northwestern [TS]

  get happens Portland yes I'm wherein [TS]

  said you sent me that the fistfight [TS]

  between the two local bore ya chefs wear [TS]

  one guy was like that pig wasn't from [TS]

  Portland it was from a different area [TS]

  code that had to be hospitalized [TS]

  yeah i'm getting her leg yeah but even [TS]

  in spite of that it's that but the [TS]

  question of the question of of because I [TS]

  think dander in food is a kind of a it [TS]

  follows an exponential process though [TS]

  with the second guy is like the way you [TS]

  put down put down some mail on the [TS]

  counter and then you put a magazine on [TS]

  top of that pretty soon the covers the [TS]

  counters completely covered you're [TS]

  saying gander [TS]

  it's an attractive kind of dander exact [TS]

  well it like the second guys dander [TS]

  doesn't double the first guy standard [TS]

  geometric it's at its at times ten [TS]

  better lot of second guys hander is a is [TS]

  a you-know-what exponential amount it [TS]

  exponentially increases the amount of [TS]

  dander until until probably that pump [TS]

  chili [TS]

  it'sit's including it's just dander and [TS]

  cayenne pepper [TS]

  how many ppl dander is the binding a [TS]

  talent agent how many not how about this [TS]

  instead of people in your reckoning [TS]

  as somebody who has enjoyed a lot of [TS]

  pomp chili if you were to go from a [TS]

  steering field to 7-eleven with it where [TS]

  you're abusing the pump chili how many [TS]

  let's just say entities do you think [TS]

  you're between I mean you can say people [TS]

  that actually influence the food one [TS]

  because they didn't you got that you got [TS]

  the whoever whoever owns you got the [TS]

  people who are like putting down the [TS]

  dandelion seed you've got the you got [TS]

  whoever shoved it into the sluice right [TS]

  at least I hope you got your guy that [TS]

  sits there they're really there are very [TS]

  solid right now so and you got you got [TS]

  to assume knowing what I know about [TS]

  people and I get into arguments with [TS]

  people all the time because there [TS]

  although I although on one level I am a [TS]

  Lockean thinker in the sense that i [TS]

  believe that man is basically good i [TS]

  could they be the degree to which they [TS]

  get more in the sense of that your [TS]

  philosophy involves looking things up on [TS]

  Wikipedia and half understanding it up [TS]

  there's that too i guess that makes me a [TS]

  Hobbesian Thomas lock didn't have [TS]

  Wikipedia jockey was just john locke for [TS]

  what it's worth but that's the Thomas [TS]

  lock I'm talk about his younger brother [TS]

  Tom sorry I think about that later john [TS]

  hobbes no no John John John Hobbes was [TS]

  the character in the comic strip [TS]

  I think if they could have lost so [TS]

  here's the problem with hot here's the [TS]

  problem is that I ultimately I am [TS]

  Hobbesian in the sense that i know that [TS]

  people have sex with dead things you [TS]

  know I know that this is true I've seen [TS]

  enough programs where the where was [TS]

  about somebody you mean that is messed [TS]

  up more often having sex with a dead [TS]

  thing you mean that as a metaphor you [TS]

  mean literally it's literally people [TS]

  have sex with dead things [TS]

  it's a thing that bad people do people [TS]

  i'm sure i'm sure there are people on [TS]

  the internet right now who are thinking [TS]

  about it [TS]

  Germans Germans have sex with that not [TS]

  all those guys are class minor or money [TS]

  and jobs a lot of the problem the the [TS]

  Pacific Northwest was home to a lot of [TS]

  serial killers we have the Bundy Green [TS]

  River River Killer and these guys every [TS]

  one of them they would sneak off and [TS]

  have sex with these people after they [TS]

  were dead and so I have to think that [TS]

  somewhere in between that cow eating [TS]

  dandelions and chili somebody's having [TS]

  sex with the dead cow [TS]

  in some part of the dead cow and even at [TS]

  every point in that a business called a [TS]

  value chain in every part of the value [TS]

  chain for crs l am not sure which is but [TS]

  every point instantly like this museum [TS]

  is liberation they like the brown unlock [TS]

  the counter clause in college [TS]

  grandfather for money so funny [TS]

  the best you know that was pretty damn [TS]

  gruesome did you did you know that I [TS]

  live down the street from the the bank's [TS]

  you robbed now we're at the time now be [TS]

  found at the top now now she's it was [TS]

  just as a bank go to there was a video [TS]

  store nuts now it's just a place that [TS]

  used to be a video store mr. up and take [TS]

  me inside to see that the players and [TS]

  here's videos and she robbed then it was [TS]

  a hollywood video and so my point is you [TS]

  never taken me better [TS]

  um you know like in a closet your big [TS]

  night [TS]

  oh I have the bank the bank that doesn't [TS]

  make delivery and i'm only raw video [TS]

  it's like next to like a fun place now I [TS]

  don't care what is now but he could have [TS]

  stood out there looked at it and talk [TS]

  about i photographed yes I photographed [TS]

  it so here's the thing i do not i do not [TS]

  want to make this classes i do not want [TS]

  to make this steerer store pump assist [TS]

  but in my reckoning of this and I've [TS]

  been listening reckoning a lot so i keep [TS]

  using that word [TS]

  yeah I want to talk about I want to talk [TS]

  about the a day 7 64 because i think i [TS]

  mislike synchronicity of the word uh [TS]

  when I want to when I was in fifth grade [TS]

  my reading never asked synchronicity [TS]

  this is before the police song [TS]

  yeah so is being good employees though [TS]

  please being good at all k before [TS]

  synchronicity sorry and I remember my to [TS]

  reading books in fifth and sixth grade [TS]

  where synchronicity and diversity and [TS]

  both of those words were alien to us in [TS]

  grade school right the first time you [TS]

  they handed you the book and they're [TS]

  like here's your new reading books [TS]

  synchronicity a none of us knew what i [TS]

  meant and it seemed like it was a very [TS]

  advanced book like wow synchronicity [TS]

  this is going to cover some advanced [TS]

  topics like when we asked what [TS]

  synchronicity meant the adults struggled [TS]

  to explain [TS]

  and that was the beginning of when [TS]

  school started to talk about things that [TS]

  weren't just like cat and dog and was [TS]

  such as a reading books social studies [TS]

  what was it a reading book like it okay [TS]

  like like the I think this was you [TS]

  remember when you're in fifth grade and [TS]

  you're always had and it was single name [TS]

  was like a plural noun always right but [TS]

  but you were but if you were reading [TS]

  above the level of other fifth graders [TS]

  they would give you these books that [TS]

  were like this is at the seventh grade [TS]

  reading writing is unlikely and round [TS]

  like the yellow and the green srs yeah [TS]

  and so you're like diversity is that the [TS]

  ninth grade reading level really eighth [TS]

  grade reading level I don't even know [TS]

  what that means [TS]

  ninth graders reading reading on the 9th [TS]

  grade level meeting a ninth-grade level [TS]

  sounds efficient no matter what that's [TS]

  about that sounds bad if you're in fifth [TS]

  grade and you're reading a ninth-grade [TS]

  level that's not bad but right now is [TS]

  somebody said I think Marlon man reads [TS]

  that about a ninth-grade level right [TS]

  announce our be problematic [TS]

  we had a in Florida you know you have to [TS]

  take a civics class and our book was [TS]

  called uppity what um orange flag know [TS]

  what to pump chili the point is that [TS]

  there's a lot in the value chain in the [TS]

  SLA and the CRM and ERP of the the [TS]

  getting to the pump [TS]

  I'm just saying there's a lot of people [TS]

  there's a lot of dander and at some [TS]

  point along the way I tried to clear [TS]

  John I don't wanna be classist ears but [TS]

  I think at some point along the way [TS]

  there will be at least one person in [TS]

  there was probably having sex with the [TS]

  deadpan not averse it's goes through [TS]

  their mind [TS]

  I'm just saying in the same way that you [TS]

  would go like you know what I could [TS]

  totally get some of the Tom's chips out [TS]

  of that machine more you would go like [TS]

  you know I bet I bet when she leaves i [TS]

  could get her panties out of the dryer [TS]

  you could say that's deer is not moving [TS]

  right right i got a break in 10 minutes [TS]

  right [TS]

  and although i'm not gay no it is about [TS]

  it's an opportunity it's a crime of [TS]

  opportunity if it's dead does that still [TS]

  count if you have sex with a dead thing [TS]

  of your same-gender yeah I'd say here [TS]

  thank you still get ya ok so that is a [TS]

  steer is that correct a steer versus a [TS]

  cow they're all these years are boys [TS]

  ok here's are castrated boys I guess [TS]

  it's castrated then I don't know that's [TS]

  this is ambiguous now so you got it but [TS]

  as at [TS]

  chicken is a class of bird a rooster is [TS]

  a potent mail like a stallion and then [TS]

  at the chicken always a lady think the [TS]

  chickens always a lady [TS]

  okay i think it's a it's a cape on right [TS]

  if it's a classroom is a pointer pull a [TS]

  pullet maybe this is an elongated [TS]

  chicken pull it is a long chicken right [TS]

  it's very confusing all these magicians [TS]

  that that's one of the that's one of the [TS]

  things that they're starting to really [TS]

  the answer restaurant down I think long [TS]

  chicken a lot of chickens but the thing [TS]

  is this is why i always wipe the wipe up [TS]

  a can of pop before I open it [TS]

  oh yeah well I always wipe it on my [TS]

  shirttail because of the story and I [TS]

  don't remember when this was put planted [TS]

  in my brain by what sadistic adult but [TS]

  some adults that oh yeah you know those [TS]

  truck drivers they go back in their [TS]

  trucks and he all over the all over the [TS]

  pop cans and at the time [TS]

  that's a letter is a long drive to [TS]

  Alaska well it is but here's the thing [TS]

  when you're a kid you're like oh like [TS]

  that makes perfect sense of course these [TS]

  guys would go back and pee on the pop [TS]

  cans but speaking as someone who has [TS]

  driven many many long miles i can open [TS]

  that door is gonna go back there and [TS]

  climb up in the thing at p going to be [TS]

  on the roads are you stop so I said [TS]

  you're exactly right you're gonna [TS]

  there's so many opportunities to pee and [TS]

  so and there's so much work involved in [TS]

  getting opening the doors and getting [TS]

  back up into that truck right i mean [TS]

  there's no chance that a guy would go [TS]

  back there just to pee [TS]

  he might however go back there to pee if [TS]

  he's actually trying to get his pee and [TS]

  a lot of people's map or fucking steer [TS]

  know this overtime a popular time I guys [TS]

  delivering pop now there's no there's [TS]

  not gonna be any still think the gang [TS]

  loads know like you know when they move [TS]

  when you get a moving van a lot of times [TS]

  you gotta wait a while because it can [TS]

  charge you less than getting load 1 i'm [TS]

  wondering when a truck pulls up outside [TS]

  of an arby's I bet you it has both it [TS]

  has both furniture Papa that the bags of [TS]

  liquid beef and the the syrup for the [TS]

  different kinds of pop outside 111 like [TS]

  resourceful like like pee fetish truck [TS]

  driver [TS]

  could get his pee on probably the salad [TS]

  greens like the whole thing he could [TS]

  stand back there and really just [TS]

  recently he can hit the potato cakes he [TS]

  can hit the turnovers for he saw you can [TS]

  hit that horsey sauce is probably [TS]

  fifteen percent body fat whore hate this [TS]

  night looks like the other thing that [TS]

  comes out of that hole horsey sauce is [TS]

  so freaky looking [TS]

  horsey sauce really you called i can't [TS]

  even call it horsey sauce because I I [TS]

  just think of a sarah jessica parker I i [TS]

  think i think of it as sounding like [TS]

  something that you used to inseminate a [TS]

  lady horse it's a full of holes of my [TS]

  horse right always a baby horse official [TS]

  we're going to anyone hey Herrmann you [TS]

  have come in could you I taking taking [TS]

  that horses always taking get everything [TS]

  with that term unless could take and get [TS]

  10 get that over Justin you didn't have [TS]

  taken you know there's another phrase I [TS]

  heard last night for the first time I [TS]

  wear to two people are throwing the ball [TS]

  back and forth what are they doing [TS]

  I toss the ball around well what's [TS]

  another phrase 40 like out playing catch [TS]

  well thank you so the phrase is playing [TS]

  catch what are you doing you're playing [TS]

  catch throwing the ball back and forth [TS]

  but I'm here in New York with this group [TS]

  of new yorkers were watching TV and [TS]

  they're the people on TV are throwing [TS]

  the ball back and forth and and somebody [TS]

  in the rooms oh they're having a catch [TS]

  that sounds English sometimes very [TS]

  affected so what having it is called [TS]

  Colin it's colin Meloy by his carriage [TS]

  and is Barry Smith to the to the arena [TS]

  to see the baseball play I think he [TS]

  would call that having to catch ya well [TS]

  in any case as I'm sitting there [TS]

  berating this room for people because [TS]

  everybody in the room agreed that that's [TS]

  what they were doing having a catch [TS]

  because they're all from Connecticut and [TS]

  whatever I was like having a catch [TS]

  who are you people what are you talking [TS]

  about and then the character on TV says [TS]

  we're having a catch and it and I felt [TS]

  like I was an alternate an alternate [TS]

  universe like the whole time I was like [TS]

  The Truman Show like they've been poor [TS]

  I've been being toyed with my whole life [TS]

  and everybody else is actually speaking [TS]

  completely differently [TS]

  this is this is this is not funny but [TS]

  you call it pop online you know about [TS]

  the whole soda coke pop you know back [TS]

  sack poke you know those kinds of black [TS]

  folk [TS]

  we we drink pop right and we have bags [TS]

  you think this regional and like for [TS]

  example like where you are right now [TS]

  you'll say standing on line which is [TS]

  something you hear almost almost nowhere [TS]

  when you think he thinks you're fucking [TS]

  has any regional flavors to it [TS]

  I'm exterior fucking probably emanated [TS]

  out from a central steer fucking place [TS]

  like you mean it was like I was like [TS]

  like the calculus you think maybe he had [TS]

  an inventor independently different [TS]

  place so i think it was independently [TS]

  invented many many times but i think [TS]

  that the terms to your fucking you have [TS]

  to have fucking already right and steers [TS]

  i think that you know that trail from [TS]

  from Texas to Montana where they ran [TS]

  they ran the cows right up and down that [TS]

  is right your truck that ran their trail [TS]

  of chili pump tears looking for lawyers [TS]

  you can't steer piercing through the [TS]

  years yeah you could call it our BRB [TS]

  penetration you canada your piercing I [TS]

  don't know kinda like that that's that's [TS]

  way more castro the sheriff fucking dead [TS]

  be yeah well let's see i mean not [TS]

  metaphorically [TS]

  I don't think I don't think I've had to [TS]

  do some things that were spiritually [TS]

  dead [TS]

  what about Jake Hoover do you think he's [TS]

  gonna fuck the JFK think there's any [TS]

  truth to that [TS]

  that's a terrible thing to say you know [TS]

  the story right on you know this [TS]

  conspiracy theory though right [TS]

  the exit one thing no but I can't do [TS]

  that without you know I've been going [TS]

  through as a indicated to you be going [TS]

  through extraterrestrial encounter phase [TS]

  as you do is what this is it's actually [TS]

  topic for you and so well no I don't [TS]

  believe in the I don't believe in the [TS]

  program but I do but but where where my [TS]

  interesting conspiracy theories lives is [TS]

  all the way is purely in the giant [TS]

  government cover-up about the [TS]

  extra-terrestrial secret Overlord [TS]

  government not really interested in this [TS]

  conspiracy theories about the about the [TS]

  the Kennedy assassination [TS]

  but you know that could switch I six [TS]

  months from now I could be all about the [TS]

  Kennedy government is capable of the [TS]

  conspiracy at this point no I don't [TS]

  think it ever was i don't think there's [TS]

  anyone smart enough [TS]

  here's here's here's the the basis for [TS]

  work or can keep a secret well enough [TS]

  well it isn't it you get two people [TS]

  can't keep a secret right only one [TS]

  person can keep a secret [TS]

  really but but when you're when you're [TS]

  out walking around in the course of a [TS]

  day of course of a day of interacting [TS]

  with other people do you ever meet [TS]

  anybody that you think how often do you [TS]

  meet somebody where you're like that [TS]

  person is smarter than me Mike often [TS]

  does that happen that person is smarter [TS]

  than me huh [TS]

  honestly yeah I don't know not very [TS]

  often [TS]

  I'm guessing you mean very like like as [TS]

  in one or or is in my head I'm just [TS]

  having an exchange with somebody and [TS]

  encounter you can tell somebody smarter [TS]

  than you right [TS]

  how often does it happen I mean haha i [TS]

  feel arrogant I feel like no don't feel [TS]

  like it's all right nobody's judging you [TS]

  it doesn't happen i'm not a lot a lot [TS]

  not like I feel like like that person [TS]

  has better social skills are shoes than [TS]

  me like i feel that a lot [TS]

  that's right now how easily how easy do [TS]

  you find it to keep a secret a real like [TS]

  juicy one that I juicy secret that you [TS]

  secretly feel other people should know [TS]

  mm Oh something like an important secret [TS]

  right i'm not talking about like oh I [TS]

  have to keep a secret for I you know I [TS]

  one of my good friends is sleeping with [TS]

  somebody on the side and I don't really [TS]

  like his wife so I'm not going to tell [TS]

  her because I don't care about her right [TS]

  I don't feel very good about my friend [TS]

  doing this but I don't have a dog in the [TS]

  race of telling the wife last night only [TS]

  when I talk about the kind of see where [TS]

  it's like oh shit there's like arbys [TS]

  beef is seventy-five percent bandar and [TS]

  right now helping now the chili gets [TS]

  pumped and like yeah and I don't care [TS]

  about the people at arbys I'm not trying [TS]

  to protect them [TS]

  people should know about this but right [TS]

  set but but whoever the last guy in the [TS]

  dander chain asked me not to tell and so [TS]

  technically it's a secret [TS]

  well like I should just let you make [TS]

  your point but but but if it was that [TS]

  kind of thing i think i would probably [TS]

  feel like I probably had to tell people [TS]

  i know that's right answer but i would [TS]

  feel it will be hard for me like you and [TS]

  I were hanging [TS]

  out and like I saw you about to make [TS]

  making chili island with pump I I'm i [TS]

  would probably say you know what its [TS]

  electron try the notches that's a lot of [TS]

  dander in that well here's the thing now [TS]

  that and my exposure to the corridors of [TS]

  power is perhaps a little bit more [TS]

  intimate than your average price is [TS]

  about being arrested [TS]

  well no it's not that it's that my [TS]

  father was a politician and so I i I'm i [TS]

  have known the US senators i have known [TS]

  more than more than two US senators and [TS]

  that then they have known me you know [TS]

  like i know these people as you know [TS]

  someone not like oh that's my u.s. [TS]

  senator and we met one time but these [TS]

  are people that my though we know that [TS]

  our family right for the people that we [TS]

  know and those US senators who some of [TS]

  one of whom in particular was a very [TS]

  powerful u.s. senator with a lot who [TS]

  wield a lot of influence these people [TS]

  are not any different than you or I they [TS]

  are not any more capable of keeping [TS]

  juicy secrets they are not anymore [TS]

  certainly not any smarter and and so it [TS]

  raises the question like it [TS]

  yes they are charged by their duty to [TS]

  keep more secrets than you or I in the [TS]

  typical week but really there's no [TS]

  there's no way that they that all the [TS]

  conspiracies in the world like I I'm [TS]

  afraid from from firsthand experience i [TS]

  can say no there's no no no one that no [TS]

  one in the quarters of power is any more [TS]

  capable of keeping things hidden than [TS]

  you or I right so I just I feel like you [TS]

  think they would even tell the senator [TS]

  sell well again one of the one of these [TS]

  senators that I that I knew well who was [TS]

  a was chairman of the committee that [TS]

  mines this business like the black I [TS]

  don't think I was John but you know [TS]

  there's a way to look up everyone that's [TS]

  been a senator and everything in it and [TS]

  tell us what do [TS]

  I'm just saying like it i sat down with [TS]

  microsoft excel i am guessing based on [TS]

  what you've said very slowly i could get [TS]

  down to 45 people let me get this man [TS]

  it's a man isn't it it is a man ought [TS]

  i'll just you know I'm just gonna come [TS]

  right out of Daniel in a way senator [TS]

  Kendall who was chairman of the Armed [TS]

  Services Committee you've met him he [TS]

  knew your name Ted Stevens new york [TS]

  senator ted stevens was my uncle Jack's [TS]

  law partner in the sixties before she a [TS]

  before he was appointed to the Senate [TS]

  and he was my heat so of the Alaska [TS]

  senator-elect elected to the Senate but [TS]

  no the lab they are senator dot [TS]

  no the lab they are senator dot [TS]

  I didn't plane crash what happens [TS]

  sometimes happen i'm sorry this is in [TS]

  the sixties things and ted stevens was [TS]

  appointed to the to the seat to fill out [TS]

  the remainder of his term and then was [TS]

  elected in the next election and then [TS]

  elected every year every election sense [TS]

  because your home he brought home the [TS]

  bacon right it really did I went to I [TS]

  went to a party and now this is terrible [TS]

  time gossiping but I went to a party so [TS]

  don't hate about John Roderick he's [TS]

  always gossiping about dead senators i [TS]

  went to his t40 they write a sentence is [TS]

  dead right he did he died in a plane [TS]

  crash which is how Alaskan senators how [TS]

  they want to go you know it's like [TS]

  saying a Viking on fire right just a [TS]

  little better way for him to to go out [TS]

  then I'm crashing this plane into a [TS]

  mountain or not his point but he was in [TS]

  a plane a small plane anyway I went to [TS]

  the party [TS]

  sighs the mountain has been paid for [TS]

  with taxpayers dollars but I went to the [TS]

  tune is 40 years in the Senate party and [TS]

  I'm i'm sitting at a table with my dad [TS]

  and and the could there's no curtain but [TS]

  you know there's a stage and out on the [TS]

  stage come for different four-star [TS]

  generals jaja an Air Force general [TS]

  Marine Corps general an army general and [TS]

  a navy admiral and they all have four [TS]

  stars and they walk up to the stage and [TS]

  the band starts down and now down down [TS]

  and not and these four generals put [TS]

  their arms around each other and start [TS]

  doing a candy and singing the this is [TS]

  song baby enough work they are in full [TS]

  dress fucking gold you know you there [TS]

  you are blinded by the light coming off [TS]

  of their medals and they are doing a [TS]

  can-can and singing a body song about [TS]

  ted stevens and how they will get down [TS]

  on their knees and do whatever he asks [TS]

  because he controls the purse strings [TS]

  this for for the for the Armed Forces [TS]

  long you had you know how much you have [TS]

  to do to become a four-star general [TS]

  don't you go I do [TS]

  yeah but that's like 40 40 years in the [TS]

  Army or something and I'm looking around [TS]

  this room and every other person in the [TS]

  room at this party in Anchorage they're [TS]

  all shit-faced drunk and they're also [TS]

  either like at the sea level at an oil [TS]

  company or part of the [TS]

  military-industrial complex or somebody [TS]

  who's you know who's wearing like a [TS]

  hundred and eighty thousand dollars [TS]

  worth of raw gold you know like this [TS]

  this party [TS]

  I mean these people are literally [TS]

  cannibals right i mean that the the [TS]

  appetizer course that this party was [TS]

  like they would saw off the top of [TS]

  somebody's head and everyone take a [TS]

  spoonful of their brains like this was [TS]

  this was this is right at the center of [TS]

  of the real real the regional monsters [TS]

  and I'm there because this is in certain [TS]

  whether these are my people and I i I'm [TS]

  I'm 19 years old or something like that [TS]

  and most of these guys are not wearing [TS]

  ties they're wearing below times during [TS]

  bolo ties that are made out of actually [TS]

  tied it says fuck you [TS]

  that is the fuck you time that is the [TS]

  oil company if you see a guy working for [TS]

  an oil company or or sitting in in any [TS]

  kind of government hope like corridor of [TS]

  power and he's wearing a polo time but [TS]

  goin SiC you know that's the only made [TS]

  out of old easy that was it's their [TS]

  watches you look at their watches and [TS]

  you realize like oh shit that's a [TS]

  two-hundred-thousand-dollar watchband [TS]

  it's solid gold sees got the terrifying [TS]

  and it's terrifying to being around not [TS]

  scalable lot of rock and laughing oh [TS]

  they're laughing and the and the humor [TS]

  is the kind of humor of like yeah [TS]

  suck it suck it you know like everybody [TS]

  in there knows who's in charge that is [TS]

  what we set a pregnant mother on fire [TS]

  these generals are making light of the [TS]

  fact that they have to that they have to [TS]

  basically suck off this US senator to [TS]

  get their new submarine their new like [TS]

  80 billion dollar submarine platform and [TS]

  they're making a joke out of it because [TS]

  they because at this party [TS]

  the only people that are invited our [TS]

  people that that are there right there [TS]

  is no Outsiders they don't see me i'm a [TS]

  kid right I'm there with my dad and so [TS]

  I'm like yeah I'm the only person there [TS]

  that's under the age of 60 and and I'm [TS]

  just on my eyes are as big as saucers [TS]

  I'm like I whatever conspiracy theory [TS]

  you think is happening this is what's [TS]

  really happening [TS]

  I mean these guys are they think it's [TS]

  hilarious and they're talking about at [TS]

  their talk about billions of dollars and [TS]

  it's just like we're here at Ted Stevens [TS]

  birthday party in this left just a [TS]

  little yuk it up for saying so where [TS]

  we're sitting around you know doing rush [TS]

  and eat chili at chili dogs and thinking [TS]

  about like who's covering up the aliens [TS]

  and saying like oh who's being [TS]

  tight-lipped and what you're saying here [TS]

  like this is one of the most appalling [TS]

  things you've ever seen in your life and [TS]

  they don't consider it a secret [TS]

  well and one of the greatest things I [TS]

  ever saw in my life like you want to [TS]

  know how it's done [TS]

  that's how it's done I mean it sounds [TS]

  like a hunter s thompson made-up thing I [TS]

  mean that's a completely me it's [TS]

  absolutely true except hunter s thompson [TS]

  wasn't making it up either you know like [TS]

  it is it's hunter was talking about that [TS]

  scene except like a convention of state [TS]

  troopers and I've seen it where it is a [TS]

  convention of four-star generals and [TS]

  they are at and their humor their sense [TS]

  of humor is at the same level as a [TS]

  gathering of the right people to take [TS]

  your be just like hey boy come over here [TS]

  and freshen up my drink and you know [TS]

  he's holding the drink right in front of [TS]

  his little paw to read a birthday [TS]

  yeah so anyway so here's my way to say [TS]

  yes [TS]

  nobody's gonna over there were there's [TS]

  no conspiracy there's no theory these [TS]

  guys these guys are literally dancing a [TS]

  can-can dance you can and about about [TS]

  blowing about blowing a senator [TS]

  yeah and they know you know they know [TS]

  like what side the bread [TS]

  but unlike I'm sure each one of those [TS]

  guys flew up to Alaska in his own c-141 [TS]

  right like every one of those guys [TS]

  budgeted somehow of a [TS]

  half-a-million-dollar flight in an Air [TS]

  Force transport this is this is this is [TS]

  that where the pump jelly coach under [TS]

  this part I can't this is the part I [TS]

  can't stop thinking about I mean [TS]

  obviously the visual of this is amazing [TS]

  in the guy in the cold suit but but the [TS]

  the part that blows me away is like four [TS]

  of probably when you say there in like [TS]

  the top two or three percent of the most [TS]

  powerful and busy people in America [TS]

  probably they had somebody had to like [TS]

  coordinate their calendars they probably [TS]

  had to cancel something they find their [TS]

  John they had to rehearse [TS]

  you forget i'm doing and can if you're [TS]

  referring to your old man who's [TS]

  listening to you wrote it [TS]

  yeah let you know how many is like [TS]

  four-star generals there are there are [TS]

  not a lot of four-star generals well [TS]

  this is the thing you would what would [TS]

  what I'm what I what I can't convey is [TS]

  how many three-star generals there were [TS]

  in the room they get somewhere exciting [TS]

  onto the stage someday me right [TS]

  I mean I was just walking around this [TS]

  thing and I i have to say that i [TS]

  mentioned already that I was wearing a [TS]

  polo time because I knew that that's [TS]

  what I knew the drag I knew what dragged [TS]

  to where the finger so I was wearing [TS]

  borrowed that from your dad are you know [TS]

  I have flex follow times like an Alaska [TS]

  I you guys have to know there are [TS]

  certain times when you show up wearing a [TS]

  real time and you're you're gonna hear [TS]

  on the outside ask if you're homosexual [TS]

  they're gonna ask they're gonna ask you [TS]

  to go back to the kitchen and get them [TS]

  or another tray of canap├ęs this but it [TS]

  hit case the number of the number of [TS]

  other brass that was at this event like [TS]

  full bird Colonels 1 and 2 star generals [TS]

  who are just milling around trying to [TS]

  look busy trying to not get in front of [TS]

  the four-star general who's got like who [TS]

  hasn't who has a one-star general isis [TS]

  82 camp like these there was a real seat [TS]

  i like i like i like I'm Alton to the [TS]

  patent exactly like you guys like other [TS]

  generals whose only job is to stand [TS]

  there with a with a spit bucket you know [TS]

  for when the guy wants to like hockey [TS]

  pocket big water to on the floor [TS]

  it was a it was insane and then also [TS]

  like the CEO of BP but this is your dad [TS]

  wasn't your your dad like just the [TS]

  Yankees have you said he's like very [TS]

  liberal and very excited about activists [TS]

  liberal like apples are red and in these [TS]

  quarters of power was the token like [TS]

  that the that's a certain level in the [TS]

  fifties and sixties there was actual [TS]

  actual red-baiting an actual communism [TS]

  was a brilliant was a thing that people [TS]

  were really afraid of but but behind the [TS]

  real curtain nobody gave a fuck [TS]

  everybody knew you know who were the you [TS]

  know like what threat [TS]

  oh you see a hospital or shall I mean we [TS]

  know that was all shown he was you know [TS]

  ruining ring lardner first for fun [TS]

  mostly and so these guys would all this [TS]

  was the thing you would walk through [TS]

  these events with my dad and guys would [TS]

  come up guys with these fat fingers you [TS]

  know these hands that were just like get [TS]

  the hands that could get stick it in [TS]

  between gears to stop a machine like big [TS]

  fat scarred hands and put them on my dad [TS]

  would be like Dave Roderick a little [TS]

  area [TS]

  how's the Communist Party and my dad oh [TS]

  haha fuck you and the night after night [TS]

  you know he would just read you elbowed [TS]

  his way through these things and just he [TS]

  was the token pinko right so this is how [TS]

  it works it was like like that you know [TS]

  and when i first learned you always knew [TS]

  I know about what a colicky baby I [TS]

  always knew that wrestling was it was a [TS]

  put-on you know that in your heart like [TS]

  you just like you know like you know [TS]

  kisses wearing makeup or whatever but [TS]

  you know when you really do actually [TS]

  hear about like dusty rose in the Iron [TS]

  Sheik like in their underwear playing [TS]

  cards and you know you really think [TS]

  about the level of orchestration that [TS]

  goes i don't know how much you followed [TS]

  the stuff back in the day but like the [TS]

  amount of dance like uh you know [TS]

  choreography that goes into not killing [TS]

  somebody when you do a suplex you know [TS]

  what I mean I mean yeah these guys get [TS]

  hurt they get hurt really bad you see [TS]

  the prices that make you work movie but [TS]

  yeah I mean you know how closely you [TS]

  have to work something with somebody to [TS]

  look like you're killing them without [TS]

  killing them right i mean [TS]

  really it's it's extraordinary and [TS]

  everybody knows its performance but [TS]

  you've heard the term before it's called [TS]

  kab know it's sort of like America [TS]

  except with wrestling [TS]

  oh it's like you know what you know that [TS]

  cyclically silence [TS]

  yeah yeah absolutely you never the whole [TS]

  point baby I think I promise you never [TS]

  know you know be in the racket never [TS]

  breaks character and reveals that you [TS]

  know basically they're the storylines [TS]

  and all this anyway it's probably silly [TS]

  analogy but you know in that case if [TS]

  you're gonna try to get anything done in [TS]

  Washington you're gonna have to see it [TS]

  as a huh [TS]

  oh I'm gonna get you and me like you [TS]

  know her always your master wabbit [TS]

  didn't ruin the lives of five million [TS]

  people you not say I have a picture of [TS]

  uh of these guys you know because my [TS]

  uncle was a UH who also just recently [TS]

  died not but not dunkel that was Ted [TS]

  Stevens law partner but a different [TS]

  angle was a member of the Bohemian Club [TS]

  San Francisco institution and which are [TS]

  you familiar with but i think i'm [TS]

  confusing it with a thing at Harry sure [TS]

  made fun of I'm thinking of the the [TS]

  growth people [TS]

  yeah that's them believe me I was just [TS]

  testing this is all really ok i dunno [TS]

  about this is your headaches for having [TS]

  have it its it's like that scene in the [TS]

  in the matt damon movie where he's a CIA [TS]

  spook and and the time about the [TS]

  skullenbones retreat up in the up in the [TS]

  lake country where they all [TS]

  where is Johnny Johnson is not in the [TS]

  room with you is he he's not I'm [TS]

  actually sitting in his grandfather's [TS]

  Yale chair okc I'm just saying like you [TS]

  know there's no spare these guys all [TS]

  turn down collar bones because they were [TS]

  with booth wasn't even a worse one was [TS]

  it in like the squirty weenies or [TS]

  something even worse news of the [TS]

  squiggly whomps or whatever the but [TS]

  that's the but the with improved for the [TS]

  top of the the feathery chili pumps [TS]

  they're the third for the top of the [TS]

  acapella singing at Yale when they want [TS]

  they want to slap fights up but the [TS]

  Bohemian Club you get these photographs [TS]

  back from those events and they and you [TS]

  know sometimes especially when your [TS]

  family like they forget to censor some [TS]

  of the pictures and you get these [TS]

  pictures looks like George Schultz and [TS]

  and Henry Kissinger I like pretend [TS]

  making out around a campfire and andy [TS]

  and you realize like it's all happening [TS]

  there you serious like somebody somebody [TS]

  didn't come the carousel and in your ear [TS]

  that's the kind of stuff you you really [TS]

  get this really happens sure absolutely [TS]

  not not just happens but like taking [TS]

  pictures make it you know like there's a [TS]

  thing at the Bohemian Club where these [TS]

  guys one of the one of like the [TS]

  traditions there is that they are really [TS]

  into peeing on natural like it's a big [TS]

  part of the Bohemian Grove everybody [TS]

  should be able to just pee wherever [TS]

  they've got a pop can incite so these [TS]

  guys are like piano over their shoulder [TS]

  and stuff like all these these men that [TS]

  you think of occupying the very highest [TS]

  corridors of power and what they really [TS]

  are into is gathering out in the forest [TS]

  with each other and like you know water [TS]

  sports and third and they forget like [TS]

  you know somebody's young nephew is [TS]

  going to be looking through these [TS]

  photographs and is and scalding his [TS]

  eyebrows eyeballs with the shots and [TS]

  leveraging that series of tubes and [TS]

  later on on his podcast he's going to be [TS]

  revealing all the secrets and it will [TS]

  finally blow the lid off of this thing [TS]

  are you wearing a very tight sailor save [TS]

  his chance i swear IM ruin the other day [TS]

  I bought a sailor suit what a a u.s. [TS]

  likely is no proper black blue wool [TS]

  sailor suit that has now that since been [TS]

  discontinued as the official sailor [TS]

  outfit [TS]

  everybody is my greatest thick man sit [TS]

  sit [TS]

  i bought this thing like it's a chief [TS]

  petty officer you know first class or [TS]

  something like that and I was wearing it [TS]

  around the house like so proud of myself [TS]

  and I finally had a sailor suit and I [TS]

  caught a glimpse of myself dressed as a [TS]

  sailor and realize that you know I'm 43 [TS]

  years old I like I look like the worst [TS]

  kind [TS]

  nobody likes an old seaman you know I'm [TS]

  like I'm like the guy with the ship [TS]

  docks in Tokyo and this guy comes [TS]

  rolling through the streets like all the [TS]

  cases run for cover and let your name [TS]

  would be salty their shuttering the [TS]

  little paper doors as I'm coming through [TS]

  this [TS]

  hi are our and I'm thinking and i bought [TS]

  the sailors who like oh this is great [TS]

  this is so cute and realize there's just [TS]

  nothing cute about me anymore i need to [TS]

  not have a sailor suit it's just [TS]

  terrifying [TS]

  I don't know I i mean you know i just i [TS]

  don't understand how you how you find [TS]

  the time the inclination the storage [TS]

  space even you've apparently on an [TS]

  orange flight suit from what I can [TS]

  gather you have the cowboy boots do you [TS]

  clean this stuff occasionally i mean i [TS]

  don't know what kind of level you're [TS]

  playing at these days John but you have [TS]

  like like like a old lady store their [TS]

  first TD has too few rotate out for the [TS]

  seasons you know what I need to do i [TS]

  need to have a yard sale as you have an [TS]

  ebay yard sale but i gotta i just to [TS]

  find the even the idea of that so [TS]

  exhausting just thinking about what you [TS]

  have to kind of tech just imagine [TS]

  yourself what you have to type into it [TS]

  like a little texture on a web page [TS]

  because every single thing I own [TS]

  I have at least two paragraphs of like [TS]

  exegesis on it right i mean i need to [TS]

  tell you the provenance of this thing [TS]

  why it's important [TS]

  why this particular pair of cowboy boots [TS]

  matters why you should like it's not [TS]

  that I'm trying to sell it it's that I [TS]

  want you to know it's that you shouldn't [TS]

  have these cowboy boots right like we [TS]

  like so many like selling your kids like [TS]

  I can't let it go without telling a [TS]

  couple funny stories I get into this all [TS]

  the time when i go to thrift stores i [TS]

  found a jacket the other day and you [TS]

  know any if you look inside the inner [TS]

  pockets of jackets but really old jacket [TS]

  sometimes you can find tags that are [TS]

  buried [TS]

  you know sewn in the liner that tell you [TS]

  a lot about the jacket and there's this [TS]

  jacket for 2 15 bucks or something and I [TS]

  knew right away that it was old really [TS]

  old [TS]

  and.and I tried it on it was too small [TS]

  it's like i'm not i don't buy things [TS]

  that don't fit i'm not i'm not running a [TS]

  store i'm not going to lie this i'm not [TS]

  running a museum but I look I i searched [TS]

  this jacket for clues and I find a tag [TS]

  that talks about how it was handmade for [TS]

  a guy in london in 1939 November [TS]

  fourteenth of 1939 was the day that this [TS]

  jacket was delivered this hand tailored [TS]

  coat was delivered to a guy I'm holding [TS]

  this thing it's in a three-story [TS]

  bellevue washington i'm holding this [TS]

  thing I'm like you know that this was [TS]

  made for this guy and I and World War [TS]

  two had started like this we made the [TS]

  blurring the lilies the Blitz was coming [TS]

  right now this was during the early days [TS]

  of the Blitz that this jacket was handed [TS]

  over to some guy who wore it through the [TS]

  Blitz and through whatever else ended up [TS]

  emigrating to America at some point died [TS]

  and his jacket went to his son or [TS]

  something and somehow now it's in this [TS]

  thrift store and the next person here [TS]

  that this thing fits is probably gonna [TS]

  buy it isn't even going to look in here [TS]

  and look at this tag and I swear to you [TS]

  more when I'm standing in the thrift [TS]

  store thinking that it's my [TS]

  responsibility to go out to the car get [TS]

  a piece of paper and write the story of [TS]

  this jacket as I imagined it on a piece [TS]

  of paper and tuck it in the jacket so [TS]

  that the person X personalize it doesn't [TS]

  go [TS]

  I mean had bakelite buttons you know [TS]

  what this thing was if the right person [TS]

  finds it then the story continues but if [TS]

  some high school kid it's like I need a [TS]

  halloween costume comes in and gets this [TS]

  thing it ends up like look at me I'm a [TS]

  hobo order news i put doing he did you [TS]

  like you like the way a little kid would [TS]

  see a puppy [TS]

  I mean they would you adopt it no I had [TS]

  to leave it because because my mind [TS]

  doesn't have like you say there's no [TS]

  more room in my head for this kind of [TS]

  thing and I can't go out to the car and [TS]

  spent 20 minutes telling the story of [TS]

  this coat in us in a thrift store that [TS]

  has 800 coats in it like i have i mean [TS]

  i'm not going to say that my time is [TS]

  worth more than that but if it isn't I'm [TS]

  doing something wrong you know if my [TS]

  time isn't worth [TS]

  more than that then just like sending [TS]

  I'm like basically that's putting a note [TS]

  in a bottle and throwing it into the [TS]

  water [TS]

  you know the next person that gets this [TS]

  coat why do I care whether they know [TS]

  what do I care anything about this coat [TS]

  you know but i but I do and no I i'm [TS]

  totally with you I don't know how you [TS]

  left it behind John I know your sense of [TS]

  history is really is profound but that's [TS]

  the thing i would you like you i would [TS]

  have to i would have to own a warehouse [TS]

  if I picked up everything but I found [TS]

  that I felt had a story that that it's [TS]

  not the story needs to be told but the [TS]

  story is part of a larger story that i'm [TS]

  interested in knowing you know like this [TS]

  jacket how did it get here and what does [TS]

  it seem like I just want to stand there [TS]

  with my hands and its pockets 45 minutes [TS]

  there's something really tragic about [TS]

  the is really described anyway and as [TS]

  soon as you said you don't know history [TS]

  this is he said 1939 England I'm like [TS]

  wow and end up I'm like wow but I can't [TS]

  believe that surviving look at this bar [TS]

  oh and then end up us some kid going to [TS]

  an arcade fire concert or whatever yeah [TS]

  and who knows whether the kind of you [TS]

  know like my initially or are right away [TS]

  my imagination starts jumping off like [TS]

  oh then this guy join the OSS and he [TS]

  parachuted behind enemy lines wearing [TS]

  this jacket and he's you know and he was [TS]

  part of the he was like he was taking [TS]

  supplies to the French Resistance and [TS]

  that you know and that's why he ended up [TS]

  in America because he was part of the [TS]

  intelligence community and standing [TS]

  watch over the Berlin Wall years later [TS]

  all this stuff you know and in fact this [TS]

  guy probably was an insurance adjuster [TS]

  an actuary yeah [TS]

  also the Germans would have known [TS]

  English tailoring [TS]

  right they would have taken that tag out [TS]

  with that looks like the video comment [TS]

  becoming the shaving cream so they can [TS]

  smell that the Germans wouldn't the [TS]

  shaving cream would smell the same i [TS]

  don't want to say that you should write [TS]

  a book about this because you should [TS]

  write a book about but this is the kind [TS]

  of thing you should write about you and [TS]

  you you're very interesting these kinds [TS]

  of things you know that I mean I think [TS]

  they would buy it that he would probably [TS]

  don't know if you know the problem is [TS]

  anybody else interested in them you [TS]

  should act like your dad and and write [TS]

  your Christie's catalog you know like [TS]

  Elizabeth Taylor and Underpants you [TS]

  should write your own Christie's catalog [TS]

  you and Bruce Vilanch have been peppered [TS]

  up with a little I you could do this [TS]

  though I on Phoebe is the right place [TS]

  the keyword searches for could be a [TS]

  little complicated for the kind of [TS]

  things you want to discuss you need like [TS]

  a historical ebay you need me I don't [TS]

  like people selling carefully i want [TS]

  people look more carefully at stuff like [TS]

  the people at this people with this [TS]

  thrift store are looking at the tags are [TS]

  pricing things like they're seeing [TS]

  oh this is ralph lauren well those were [TS]

  fourteen dollars oh this is abercrombie [TS]

  & fitch oh that's good stuff you know [TS]

  and what they're not doing is taking [TS]

  that extra second to dig in and see like [TS]

  oh this thing actually kind of belongs [TS]

  in a museum if you ask everything else [TS]

  I've kept everything I've ever found in [TS]

  the pocket at a thrift store [TS]

  I mean I've got this old cigar box from [TS]

  like high school or whatever that would [TS]

  throw like I have a cosmo is called it [TS]

  was it was is really where i bought this [TS]

  in Florida but it was some bar in [TS]

  covington which is like where the [TS]

  airport is in Kentucky near Cincinnati [TS]

  and it was some kind of like the dew [TS]

  drop inn kind of thing in like that old [TS]

  kind of like thick soft pencil was I had [TS]

  somebody had written a phone number [TS]

  inside the matchbook with black one of [TS]

  those extent exchanges you know [TS]

  yeah right section 5 6 29 or whatever [TS]

  and Jenkins 11 you don't throw that away [TS]

  yeah i mean even well I mean what's [TS]

  what's the least interesting story that [TS]

  could be that could be hiding a body you [TS]

  know that could be that could be faster [TS]

  fellatio it could be like you know [TS]

  hillbilly mortgage no idea that number [TS]

  could still be operable I should dig [TS]

  that up i might be able to might be able [TS]

  to get some some cheap property near the [TS]

  airport coming in that's weird i don't [TS]

  know John [TS]

  yeah my mom still talks about [TS]

  phone numbers that way she's still like [TS]

  oh that's federal 731 to get that [TS]

  website is a website you can go to and [TS]

  find out what your phone number used to [TS]

  be if it thinks there's so many new [TS]

  phone numbers now because you know why [TS]

  fax machines facts first fax machines [TS]

  and their mobile phones screwed it all [TS]

  up because they had to make up all these [TS]

  new phone numbers [TS]

  what's the website that you go to them [TS]

  that's something exchange and then and [TS]

  where it says something something in [TS]

  telephone or something [TS]

  I you know in our family you have the [TS]

  same phone number your whole life my [TS]

  family all had license plates we had [TS]

  custom license plates they were all that [TS]

  we're not weird vanity plates but they [TS]

  were all like in order it was really [TS]

  cool [TS]

  so my grandparents and they said oh is [TS]

  it was like CA 1 111 mi a knucklehead [TS]

  cat2 and we had CA 3333 and we might [TS]

  have been part of some kind of program [TS]

  i'm not even sure that's only government [TS]

  plates don't they [TS]

  neither do i don't know [TS]

  implementing 6-5000 and my uncle work [TS]

  for PNG so that that's that's the kind [TS]

  of job that if I were going to have a [TS]

  front me now for somebody who was doing [TS]

  something with you know pump chili or [TS]

  dancing generals i would i would put him [TS]

  in the paper Department page pge ASAP TP [TS]

  and Jimmy P big difference [TS]

  PNG some gas and electric vs procter & [TS]

  gamble he was a proctor and gamble with [TS]

  the gal Procter & Gamble is in paper is [TS]

  big and paper that they had the the [TS]

  devil worshipping yeah that was rough [TS]

  that was rough on them they moved out I [TS]

  was no it was a supposedly the not the [TS]

  Unitarians the other one then that the [TS]

  Universalists the Unification Church [TS]

  Unification Church the room with some [TS]

  young moon that's right [TS]

  yeah yeah well that was during the big [TS]

  era where people were having recovered [TS]

  memories of all the child abuse that [TS]

  they supposedly memories i've been [TS]

  reading a lot more from history about [TS]

  halfway through his autobiography and [TS]

  he's talking about you DNT remember like [TS]

  eight late eighties early nineties how [TS]

  seriously people took the Satanism thing [TS]

  I mean how i'm getting i'm just stealing [TS]

  from the book because it brought back my [TS]

  Oprah memory of house how much like [TS]

  mainstream media took that seriously [TS]

  like Judas Priest didn't didn't didn't [TS]

  rob halford like have to go to trial the [TS]

  whole band went to trial because because [TS]

  supposedly they know the cause some kids [TS]

  to commit suicide that they were there [TS]

  wasn't even backmasking that they wrote [TS]

  lyrics in a song that made the society [TS]

  QSI do it also said grinder looking for [TS]

  meat [TS]

  did they said the electric eye in the [TS]

  sky how do we not see it John was right [TS]

  there right in fact haha you're walking [TS]

  fuck I don't wait hang on a minute [TS]

  you're telling me that a guy with dyed [TS]

  blonde hair in a black leather [TS]

  motorcycle outfit singing grinder [TS]

  looking for me right now bring chaps [TS]

  calves but I I swear to you I had no [TS]

  when he went when he came out everybody [TS]

  I knew all the metal guys were like oh [TS]

  yeah I always doing this again and that [TS]

  was the biggest load of bullshit i was [TS]

  like i was a huge priest and I had no [TS]

  idea he was gay because it just didn't [TS]

  occur to miami firearms 15 now I i [TS]

  totally I feel exactly the same way I I [TS]

  it's one of those things it's like the [TS]

  George Bush thing you know whether the [TS]

  Douglas wake up don't think of an [TS]

  elephant stuff like all you know the [TS]

  republicans they they love George George [TS]

  W Bush because they like the man they [TS]

  didn't want to be smart they wanted him [TS]

  to be that way and in this case you no [TS]

  evidence to the contrary [TS]

  like like like coming out of the sky we [TS]

  chose not to see it that way you know [TS]

  yeah so complicated i never saw Jesus [TS]

  presides unless a lot of metal bands [TS]

  minor massages priest i just saw them [TS]

  recently and they were terrible [TS]

  I saw them with KK downing although he's [TS]

  not playing with them anymore but I did [TS]

  see them with kk but Rob came out he had [TS]

  a he had a key [TS]

  name and he kind of limped around the [TS]

  stage and didn't really hit any of the [TS]

  high notes played a lot of songs from [TS]

  the new record like everything that you [TS]

  don't want to happen everything that you [TS]

  don't want to have happen at a metal [TS]

  concert they did like really a lot of [TS]

  songs from the new record really come on [TS]

  is one of the reasons I always admired [TS]

  Alex children you know because I in the [TS]

  in the air out like after he'd been in [TS]

  big star which is like you know it's one [TS]

  of those things like The Velvet [TS]

  Underground that even if you've never [TS]

  heard of them people drop their name [TS]

  which is a shame because I really pan [TS]

  but you know they had these two records [TS]

  today like but then you know what like [TS]

  he'slooking I got to make some dough he [TS]

  won't play RB but then he got into one [TS]

  of the his package deals where he would [TS]

  go out and like play three boxtops songs [TS]

  and said thank you very much goodnight [TS]

  and get a check i was kind of admire [TS]

  that because you want to play 3 hits you [TS]

  go on these tours his package tours like [TS]

  the guess who or what ever he do is [TS]

  three you know it is given an airplane [TS]

  and and collect the check I kind of [TS]

  admire that and it's got the opposite of [TS]

  rob halford literally coming out with a [TS]

  cane and saying like you should get our [TS]

  new our new album you available tuesday [TS]

  at Sam Goody or whatever right that's [TS]

  depressing it is depressing but you know [TS]

  they're they're doing that now without [TS]

  even having came down and got some young [TS]

  guy in the cake apart it's hard it's [TS]

  hard to make down to business [TS]

  I submission of Burma few years ago and [TS]

  the music business [TS]

  the one that I'm in the business studies [TS]

  show that your friend [TS]

  it's so just discouraging that's why I'm [TS]

  getting into this lucrative podcast [TS]

  business [TS]

  yeah I feel like there's you know I've [TS]

  got to have a fallback and I heard that [TS]

  people were making a lot of money at [TS]

  this [TS]

  you have no idea what that guy from [TS]

  five-by-five is just breaking I don't [TS]

  know what that is but there is so much [TS]

  gold to be mined from this you can now [TS]

  talk about audible books you know them [TS]

  books on tape oh yeah [TS]

  audible books right right I [TS]

  I think you know it was on your kindle [TS]

  right I don't know [TS]

  Barbie's big pic in arby's has a lot of [TS]

  rehabilitation to do with their image [TS]

  because I'm afraid though that we may [TS]

  have just if Barbies is doing podcast [TS]

  endorsements we might have just blown a [TS]

  shot at it with our rb's conversation [TS]

  how do you think fucking 7-eleven fields [TS]

  I'll see what I mean 7 11 and then I put [TS]

  the band that pump chili [TS]

  haha [TS]

  that's good that's good [TS]

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