The Incomparable

178: A Smoother Yar


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  the incomparable number 170 a [TS]

  january2014 [TS]

  welcome back everybody to be [TS]

  uncomfortable podcast on your host Jason [TS]

  Snell and this is part two of our [TS]

  console video game draft in part 1 [TS]

  episode 177 we did the first round of [TS]

  our console video game draft and got two [TS]

  pics into the second round we're gonna [TS]

  go four rounds deep so there's a lot [TS]

  more left to listen to and so let's join [TS]

  our draft and progress my guests are [TS]

  Greg moss John siracusa boise st on [TS]

  Steve let's and Tony sindelar and i [TS]

  believe it's more assesses turn I didn't [TS]

  see now now I'm kind of in position [TS]

  behind the the Reverend pics being a [TS]

  goofball and choosing the equivalent of [TS]

  Miami connection to an extent that we [TS]

  never seen the like of that here in here [TS]

  there with Monty or or Steve watches [TS]

  their game we're gonna play as Skeletor [TS]

  cuz i wanna drink had to be a he-man [TS]

  game it's something been probably came [TS]

  with a burger king mail i want a game [TS]

  where I play as Skeletor I'm not [TS]

  interested in any man game thank you sir [TS]

  my follow-up to what I think was the [TS]

  first video game where you can check [TS]

  someone bad dudes is another beat him up [TS]

  another side scroller featuring an [TS]

  unmistakable group of mutated [TS]

  green-skinned roided-out martial artists [TS]

  and of course I'm talking about [TS]

  battletoads oh I take me out there [TS]

  it worked one of the hardest games ever [TS]

  by anybody's estimation who's actually [TS]

  played the game this was obviously [TS]

  pitched as a a concept ripoff of the [TS]

  Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles we had [TS]

  three toads names its pimple and rash [TS]

  real classy names to mimic the classic [TS]

  artists use for the ninja turtles they [TS]

  had this you know big bad that they had [TS]

  to fight and they had to punch a lot of [TS]

  stuff along the way and there were [TS]

  levels where you're in like a little [TS]

  hovercar kind of a thing [TS]

  this is the Battletoads series as it [TS]

  were had an unfortunately short life as [TS]

  super popular as the the first game was [TS]

  I don't know if it was because of the [TS]

  difficulty that the interest kind of way [TS]

  down i don't know what the real story is [TS]

  but of course battletoads was developed [TS]

  by rare who at one time was completely [TS]

  under the purview of nintendo and the [TS]

  net drifted elsewhere but the there was [TS]

  at one point a rumored remakes sequels [TS]

  sort of a thing for the game boy advance [TS]

  then there was talk of it coming to xbox [TS]

  and it's just kind of floating out there [TS]

  and it's difficult to impress upon [TS]

  people just how hard compared to other [TS]

  nes games this one was where people are [TS]

  used to [TS]

  I'll take an example from Super Mario 3d [TS]

  World Book you died five times [TS]

  consecutively in a world and you get a [TS]

  magical leaf that makes you invincible [TS]

  and gives you a tunic detail and there [TS]

  are certain achievements that you can't [TS]

  get if you finish a level that way but [TS]

  it still makes you invincible for the [TS]

  rest of the level and hold your hand [TS]

  makes it easy for you battletoads never [TS]

  ever held your hand and there would be [TS]

  you could spend not just days but weeks [TS]

  on some parts of this game just not [TS]

  being able to get past it or charging a [TS]

  parent's credit card on the London the [TS]

  Nintendo tipline not that I ever did [TS]

  that I just got insanely frustrated with [TS]

  it wanted to throw the controller across [TS]

  the room and it was fun [TS]

  oh it's the the reward that came out of [TS]

  be of finally solving those you know [TS]

  those those tough to get through parts [TS]

  or the the singular amount of dr that [TS]

  you would get pressuring your friends to [TS]

  come on no seriously come over on [TS]

  Saturday I cannot be world 5 it's just [TS]

  impossible i need another person or it [TS]

  i'm i'm never going to beat this game is [TS]

  going to drive me crazy it that that [TS]

  kind of sensation there are those games [TS]

  that are so hard that that that you want [TS]

  to give up on them and that was [TS]

  definitely battletoads for a lot of [TS]

  people but for me it was something that [TS]

  really took this skin and reskinned [TS]

  reskinned beat him up action genre and [TS]

  added a like a quantum level of [TS]

  difficulty to it and really played the [TS]

  conventions of it too [TS]

  to the extent that it [TS]

  if you if you manage to just get halfway [TS]

  through the game not even beat it you [TS]

  would feel a great deal of satisfaction [TS]

  just getting always into it because of [TS]

  how difficult the thing was i I have [TS]

  vivid memories of how hard it was it [TS]

  really took kind of nintendo hard and [TS]

  ratchet up several several notches I [TS]

  just remember dying over and over again [TS]

  on the level for your little hover [TS]

  scooter thing and they're like wrecking [TS]

  balls that hit you and those yeah it was [TS]

  intended they ever imported or exported [TS]

  to Japan and did they have to change the [TS]

  difficulty level it was just right for [TS]

  japan in japan when you when you pick up [TS]

  the cartridge it just it just inject [TS]

  spikes into your hand close your fingers [TS]

  of its well strangely enough they [TS]

  crossed it over with double dragon they [TS]

  took the totally disparate worlds at [TS]

  this is this is absolutely real [TS]

  they took the totally disparate worlds [TS]

  of Battletoads and Double Dragon and [TS]

  merge them and had the three battle [TS]

  toads and and billy and jimmy the the [TS]

  Leigh brothers of Double Dragon uniting [TS]

  to fight the forces of of the Dark Queen [TS]

  and shadow boss the Dark Queen basically [TS]

  the super sultry sexed-up alternative to [TS]

  shredder but otherwise the same kind of [TS]

  looming dark presence but except [TS]

  shredder I I think everybody should sext [TS]

  shredder turns out but yeah I i really i [TS]

  really wish that the Battletoads it had [TS]

  more of a life there was a super [TS]

  battletoads game for thus nests and and [TS]

  that was a lot of fun too and and [TS]

  there's an nes version and SNES version [TS]

  of Battletoads and Double Dragon and you [TS]

  know I I don't know how rare difficult [TS]

  cartridges are to find I know that [TS]

  everybody i know finds things [TS]

  in the place other than the physical [TS]

  realm at this point when it comes to [TS]

  games like this [TS]

  well issuu you've done it again but it's [TS]

  at any these nes games because again i [TS]

  have that i have no NES history at all i [TS]

  have never even heard of this game so [TS]

  thank thanks for bringing it up music [TS]

  and yes that is a terrific classic well [TS]

  left game I don't know how you could [TS]

  think that was a jokey pic right and I [TS]

  thought to newquay was your theme but [TS]

  actually Mario Brothers had the tanuki [TS]

  and that was Tony I know the Battletoads [TS]

  cartridge was really rare and there was [TS]

  apparently some kind of thing on the [TS]

  internet for a while where people were [TS]

  calling the pawn shop that's from that [TS]

  reality television show and asking them [TS]

  if they had people time it's like every [TS]

  hour for days just I don't really know [TS]

  and they would transcribe their [TS]

  conversations and put them online and it [TS]

  turns out that is a quick drive someone [TS]

  mad is by asking them for battletoads [TS]

  every hour for like four days and our or [TS]

  transcribing conversations asking for [TS]

  battletoads but also driving man yeah [TS]

  it's the road to madness is that way we [TS]

  are we are so slow here the third round [TS]

  is gonna have to be a lightning round [TS]

  Greg NOS though we're midway through the [TS]

  second round now and it's been a million [TS]

  years already [TS]

  Greg nice it's your turn what do you [TS]

  have I am going back to the 2600 of [TS]

  course second love [TS]

  after that bastard lots took my first I [TS]

  ate it not yars revenge [TS]

  uh yeah no yes yes yes [TS]

  terrific yeah on one side of the screen [TS]

  behind a barrier is some sort of large [TS]

  gun you play a small insect i like it [TS]

  because it is representative me in the [TS]

  real world and you know way at the [TS]

  barrier while the gun shoots at you you [TS]

  move out of the way and finally once you [TS]

  have a path through you can fire your [TS]

  cannon at the gun and blow it up and [TS]

  then you start all over again and it [TS]

  goes faster and faster and faster and [TS]

  faster and i played this game endlessly [TS]

  to the point where and I'm not proud of [TS]

  this i actually wrote a sequel for the [TS]

  atari 8-bit computer where there were [TS]

  bad guys on both ends and you had to get [TS]

  them to shoot each other [TS]

  wow I i wrote videogame fanfic well in [TS]

  in videogame form it all comes out it [TS]

  was a it was a great great fun [TS]

  single-player game you could crank [TS]

  through a dozen games without spending [TS]

  too much time on it was really [TS]

  nerve-wracking there was this was [TS]

  I mean you talk about the atmospheric [TS]

  sound in in things like shadow of the [TS]

  colossus this had a pulse that would it [TS]

  look like space invaders but more [TS]

  mechanical and it would grow and grow [TS]

  and grow as as the jeopardy of the game [TS]

  went on until finally you either died or [TS]

  the enemy was destroyed and the screen [TS]

  blew up in a huge explosion it was a [TS]

  terrific game and I can actually play in [TS]

  your browser right now if you google it [TS]

  you can play in your browser they have a [TS]

  version online that runs in the browser [TS]

  because your computer has several [TS]

  million times the processing power [TS]

  deputies that's why didn't they have [TS]

  JavaScript emulators yars revenge is one [TS]

  of that one of the rare atari 2600 games [TS]

  that was really unique I mean it wasn't [TS]

  it wasn't a port it wasn't you know at a [TS]

  clone of some other games that have been [TS]

  done 15 other times it was completely [TS]

  original and it was really great [TS]

  there's an ended the genius of having [TS]

  the neutral zone in the middle where you [TS]

  couldn't shoot you could ride we [TS]

  couldn't be killed either [TS]

  yeah but you couldn't but you also can [TS]

  shoot so it said interesting little 12 [TS]

  you could you could park there and go [TS]

  get it [TS]

  juice pack and come back to it leisurely [TS]

  and then continue the game made by the [TS]

  same guy who made the easy and raiders [TS]

  of the lost ark oh yeah this is what he [TS]

  can do when he has enough time okay well [TS]

  that the artist revenge my memory of [TS]

  that is that it was it like see said it [TS]

  was so different from a lot of the 2600 [TS]

  games that it was um I I'm always struck [TS]

  that it was an Atari official and not [TS]

  one of these like Activision games [TS]

  because activision did lots of things to [TS]

  kind of like subvert the way you usually [TS]

  saw on on on a regular atari game and [TS]

  but yours revenge was so different it [TS]

  was it was it it felt very different [TS]

  even though with an official Atari [TS]

  cartridge yeah it also came with that [TS]

  really cool little comic book to set the [TS]

  scene finally about to experience its [TS]

  nice rebug the things like adventure and [TS]

  and yours revenge the effort that went [TS]

  into them and Atari didn't credit in the [TS]

  authors and that's one of the things [TS]

  that caused Warren Robinett to put the [TS]

  easter egg into adventure and then [TS]

  eventually activision to break off as [TS]

  they didn't think they were getting the [TS]

  credit or the compensation that they [TS]

  were do is the creators of these really [TS]

  really popular works Steve kitchen and [TS]

  the other activision guys took their [TS]

  ball and yeah home [TS]

  really i believe this developer actually [TS]

  did put his initials in ET is an easter [TS]

  egg which might have been not a very [TS]

  good decision [TS]

  yeah i'm glad that he spent his time on [TS]

  that the are actually shows up at 1.2 I [TS]

  think you can turn one of the flowers in [TS]

  one of the many millions of pits that [TS]

  you fall into at any moment into a yard [TS]

  it flies out of the pit something that [TS]

  you could actually do but the are good [TS]

  in my version i took the animation of [TS]

  the r and copied it pixel for pixel onto [TS]

  the 8-bit but had twice the resolution [TS]

  so i could make him smoother [TS]

  oh nice smoother ya know [TS]

  oh my god when someone says yars revenge [TS]

  i think is that an episode of Star Trek [TS]

  The Next Generation I missed I thought [TS]

  that was what it was first and they [TS]

  interacted answer's no no John syracuse [TS]

  it's your turn [TS]

  well I just can't believe this is gone [TS]

  this long and no one is pick the obvious [TS]

  but I didn't pick up the first pick up [TS]

  here we let someone else do it but my [TS]

  second pic has to be journey pass to be [TS]

  left it for you [TS]

  come on we left it for you are gonna say [TS]

  i was never heard I didn't want you to [TS]

  be angry i can say Matt I mean we did a [TS]

  whole episode on it it's episode one [TS]

  away to be uncomfortable for people who [TS]

  want to listen way more about this i [TS]

  called ocarina of time the best video [TS]

  game of all time but journey has the [TS]

  best quality to length ratio of all time [TS]

  a more innuendo firstly they're throwing [TS]

  kindling on the fire journey is it is a [TS]

  very is a simple game if you look at it [TS]

  but i think the game is extremely broad [TS]

  and it's more about concepts and [TS]

  feelings and it is about a little [TS]

  triangular dude walking through desert [TS]

  and I think it's abstract enough like it [TS]

  is it's not abstract little square [TS]

  adventure but in some ways it is because [TS]

  it's so disconnected for anything we [TS]

  really experienced that you're able to [TS]

  engage with it emotionally in ways that [TS]

  the individual players make concrete for [TS]

  themselves you know what I mean and this [TS]

  probably sounds ridiculous to non-gamers [TS]

  and maybe it sounds difficult ridiculous [TS]

  to some gamers who might be jaded or [TS]

  have lost the sense of childlike wonder [TS]

  I don't know you could be referring to [TS]

  playing journey was one of the most [TS]

  meaningful gaming experiences of my life [TS]

  and it's its biggest part of the kind of [TS]

  persistent prejudice against games that [TS]

  if someone makes a similar statement [TS]

  about a great book it will be met with [TS]

  admiration [TS]

  I mean you said about games people think [TS]

  you're a loser but I stand by it and I [TS]

  think that needs to change the idea that [TS]

  all this book really meant something to [TS]

  me and it's my favorite book Charlotte's [TS]

  be clue [TS]

  books are cool either well what people [TS]

  say Michael this book is really [TS]

  meaningful to me or whatever and people [TS]

  like oh you must be a deep person said [TS]

  the better video game you think you all [TS]

  will you don't you know you don't have [TS]

  loser you need a lot of cheetos exactly [TS]

  so I i think that that whole concept is [TS]

  to change and I think bernie is a a nice [TS]

  maybe not the first but yet another step [TS]

  in that direction towards the [TS]

  destination of respect for games for [TS]

  what it's worth the tiny sliver of my [TS]

  childlike wonder that's left degrees [TS]

  100-percent with you on this one [TS]

  there you go i enjoy i enjoyed that game [TS]

  a lot i borrowed someone's places and [TS]

  three to play that game because John [TS]

  siracusa told me i was listening to the [TS]

  soundtrack just today in fact and it [TS]

  always takes me back and I have played [TS]

  that game I don't I I don't finish games [TS]

  let alone play the multiple times and [TS]

  I've done that with journey so quality [TS]

  to length ratio Jason yep I that's a [TS]

  good one [TS]

  alright I am going to pick a and I'm [TS]

  gonna go you know I don't love racing [TS]

  games I don't entirely understand the [TS]

  guy it's almost like a theme here and it [TS]

  it's not intentional the super realistic [TS]

  racing games like my iPad you can you [TS]

  can play racing games that are you like [TS]

  crazy simulations of cars and and and [TS]

  racetracks and all that and you know [TS]

  what that maybe it's because I I was [TS]

  brought up on night driver on the HR [TS]

  2682 why are they driving at night [TS]

  because they're not enough graphics for [TS]

  the daytime we can't do that so black is [TS]

  cheaper to render its black and then [TS]

  there's a tree there's a sign and the [TS]

  dotted lines and that's all [TS]

  so I realism not that important I [TS]

  sometimes wonder i'm not i'm not sure i [TS]

  may not have played any other console [TS]

  that [TS]

  you game for as many hours as I've [TS]

  played mario kart wii so I'm gonna pick [TS]

  mario kart wii it's not realistic in any [TS]

  way and i don't care i love the variety [TS]

  of the levels i love the game play with [TS]

  the different power-ups i love that i [TS]

  can play it with multiple people in the [TS]

  house [TS]

  uh I I can play with with the computer [TS]

  opponents iie you know you're in the [TS]

  different vehicles you you know i like [TS]

  i'm doing like the manual with the [TS]

  breaking and the bell on the bullet bike [TS]

  is sort of my favorite and I'm really [TS]

  good at that and i like that there are [TS]

  some levels that I find incredibly easy [TS]

  and I can win almost every time and [TS]

  other levels that i will like literally [TS]

  just die every 20 seconds and i'm [TS]

  completely confused by after all this [TS]

  time [TS]

  rainbow road i'm looking at you and [TS]

  they're actually a couple things parts [TS]

  of of wreck-it Ralph that are assumed to [TS]

  be direct quotes of level skin in a [TS]

  Mario Kart which kind of blew me away [TS]

  but I just it's replayable I can play [TS]

  with my kids and it's a huge amount of [TS]

  fun and I think that a lot of fun about [TS]

  this that it's not it's not realistic in [TS]

  anyway it's just fun and so I you know I [TS]

  put mario kart wii that's that's it it [TS]

  just fun [TS]

  given your limited history of video [TS]

  games jason i think you can be forgiven [TS]

  for choosing the wrong memory card game [TS]

  what is the right mark i would mario [TS]

  kart double dash is the right now double [TS]

  damages the correct i think it's it's [TS]

  yeah I well that's well very [TS]

  prescriptive I think you know we have to [TS]

  find our own way to the rainbow road [TS]

  there's always going to be the SNES [TS]

  defenders but i'm going to go double [TS]

  dash i would put the mario kart des [TS]

  entry ahead of all of those I played a [TS]

  lot of that too i think double dash [TS]

  would be the the the classic though [TS]

  well i have no experience with those [TS]

  i've only played the wii version of the [TS]

  wii version is delightful so i picked a [TS]

  wii version is extremely delightful i [TS]

  will agree with you on that [TS]

  Jason your feelings are wrong and you're [TS]

  wrong in the wii version it has many of [TS]

  the best courses from the old ash [TS]

  of all the courses from know that you [TS]

  might have all of them is just like that [TS]

  you know just is more waggling and they [TS]

  changed the skidding dynamic and they [TS]

  made the rubber banding more brutal and [TS]

  Double Dash is the country and double [TS]

  dash it gives you a two-player new [TS]

  players in one car on the freaking blue [TS]

  shell in mario kart wii is dreadful [TS]

  it's in all the games yeah but in in [TS]

  that one in particular seems like it's [TS]

  particularly extra-spicy are we extra [TS]

  black extra Shelly I got nothin [TS]

  that's that's my that's that's what they [TS]

  could pick pick [TS]

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  lightning round Steve let's kick us off [TS]

  tell us uh letting everyone ok I'll [TS]

  speed through this one this is a game by [TS]

  the greatest second party studio of all [TS]

  time and that is nintendo 64 era [TS]

  rareware ah it's conker's bad fur day is [TS]

  a game that was announced as Congress [TS]

  quest III it was a platformer featuring [TS]

  the QT red squirrel conquer who is a [TS]

  playable character on diddy kong racing [TS]

  was clearly aimed at kids and then the [TS]

  early screenshots kind of show this [TS]

  cutie cartoony art style that looks like [TS]

  it came from a TV show and preschoolers [TS]

  and then somewhere during the four years [TS]

  it was in development apparently the dev [TS]

  team went insane and the end they said [TS]

  to each others say what if instead of [TS]

  conquer being a cheerful happy-go-lucky [TS]

  kid friendly sap we make him a drunken [TS]

  bastard and then we fill the rest of the [TS]

  game with swearing and poop jokes [TS]

  well they did yeah and the result is [TS]

  magnificent it's like they made a game [TS]

  just for me [TS]

  yeah it is delightfully filthy it starts [TS]

  off with conquer stumbling into a pub [TS]

  called the cock and plucker and then it [TS]

  goes steadily downhill from here that is [TS]

  that is you in videogame form to there's [TS]

  an extended sequence where conquer [TS]

  drinks beer from kegs in order to lower [TS]

  himself with ammo so that he can pee on [TS]

  a group of flaming pimps I was gonna I [TS]

  was gonna mention that was the one part [TS]

  of the game I remember don't you get to [TS]

  pee on people who are on fire now the [TS]

  mind coming up you have to admit though [TS]

  you you must remember the P physics [TS]

  being a truly wondrous thing the the [TS]

  implementation of the distri- and you're [TS]

  aiming it'sit's kind of hoping you're [TS]

  gonna go goldeneye something but now we [TS]

  know in a way I did with yeah I know [TS]

  where you did you're right this is the [TS]

  innuendo show this week and then there's [TS]

  the great mighty poo the best boss in [TS]

  the history of video games he's a [TS]

  gigantic opera singing turd with sweet [TS]

  corn four teeth who attacks by hurling [TS]

  chunks of himself at you [TS]

  meanwhile the art style and the music [TS]

  are still just this if it's still is [TS]

  completely over-the-top cute stuff which [TS]

  just makes the film all the more [TS]

  hilarious but it's not entirely scat [TS]

  humor the games also filled with a lot [TS]

  of clever parodies of movies and gaming [TS]

  conventions if it was entirely filth i [TS]

  probably wouldn't nominate it but it [TS]

  also is an incredibly fun game to play [TS]

  there's this great variety in the [TS]

  gameplay and one minute you're in [TS]

  first-person shooter mode blasting dung [TS]

  beetles to bits with a slingshot the [TS]

  next you're playing a twisted version of [TS]

  Donkey Kong where you dodge rolling [TS]

  balls of poo instead of barrels it has [TS]

  challenging bits but it's never horribly [TS]

  frustrating it controls like a dream [TS]

  even on the crappy n64 analog stick has [TS]

  some of the best considering it came at [TS]

  the end of the nintendo 64 his life [TS]

  cycle is not surprising that it has some [TS]

  of the best graphics I think that were [TS]

  ever produced on the end [TS]

  264 a wonderful dynamic soundtrack [TS]

  including a great tune in dung beetle [TS]

  and where the majestic farm is used as [TS]

  an instrument to great effect i start to [TS]

  finish I think this is probably the most [TS]

  fun I've ever had playing a console game [TS]

  and as such i select conker's bad fur [TS]

  day thank you [TS]

  Wow getting that everybody ocarina of [TS]

  time that Congress bad for day two [TS]

  thumbs up all conker's bad fur day is [TS]

  great you know the problem with ocarina [TS]

  times they had a guy on that group who [TS]

  is like whoa too many poop jokes at [TS]

  conkers bad fur day that guy did not [TS]

  have a job and that probably would have [TS]

  helped but as I pointed out conquer is [TS]

  all about variety you never doing the [TS]

  same thing twice and ocarina is the same [TS]

  thing over and over again for the poop [TS]

  jokes but the different poop jokes are [TS]

  differently I you can go a long ways [TS]

  with a poop joke had lasted 41 years [TS]

  yeah there you go all right lightning [TS]

  round we're moving on Tony [TS]

  alright i'll actually be a lightning [TS]

  round I'm going to also go for the n64 i [TS]

  will draft goldeneye from 1997 this [TS]

  could have been a crappy movie tie-in [TS]

  game is tied into a crappy movie tied [TS]

  into a crappy movie in fact it arrived [TS]

  two years late it was came out in 1997 [TS]

  move goldeneye the movie was 1995 so [TS]

  it's very late for the movie tie-ins but [TS]

  it managed to be kind of an amazing game [TS]

  that kind of brought the first person [TS]

  shooter experience that you know lots of [TS]

  pc gamers that had to the console and [TS]

  you know it has a so-so single-player [TS]

  campaign that i played through a bunch [TS]

  of times but probably the key feature of [TS]

  it was the four player split screen [TS]

  multiplayer with a bunch of different [TS]

  maps and different game modes and you [TS]

  know a lot of this was you know some [TS]

  stuff we already kind of scene four [TS]

  people were playing doom and things like [TS]

  that but some of this was completely new [TS]

  and and the really popular mode was on [TS]

  the ability to plant their proximity [TS]

  mines and I remotely controlled mines [TS]

  which was kind of a new twist on the you [TS]

  know just running around always shooting [TS]

  at people and you know it is pretty [TS]

  simple graphics for the time the [TS]

  characters heads kinda look like squares [TS]

  with kind of a picture pierce brosnan [TS]

  superimposed on the square but at the [TS]

  time i think it was really exciting and [TS]

  I i played countless countless hours of [TS]

  the the multiplayer experience of gold [TS]

  alright that's me people [TS]

  goldeneye that's better game than the [TS]

  movie and you don't get to say that very [TS]

  often is it's your turn [TS]

  while rounding out my theme of adjective [TS]

  noun titled games that involve pairs of [TS]

  dudes going on on a side-scrolling quest [TS]

  of some sort not a beat him up a [TS]

  licensed game which i still own a [TS]

  cartridge of the nintendo entertainment [TS]

  systems may kids McDonald's jokey pic [TS]

  McDonald's and eat it [TS]

  hold on hold on mcdonalds had virgin [TS]

  games developed this this side-scrolling [TS]

  game where these two kids make and Mac I [TS]

  think calling the white kid nick is a [TS]

  little ping-pong if you ask me I think I [TS]

  think we should really read examine the [TS]

  the racism of early nineties nes games [TS]

  who were sent by ronald mcdonald because [TS]

  the creepy clown couldn't do this [TS]

  himself to collect I i want to say they [TS]

  were they were like like puzzle pieces [TS]

  or something [TS]

  the side-scrolling element of it that [TS]

  made it unique at this point was that [TS]

  there was this little thing that if you [TS]

  held down the button ran to the end of a [TS]

  platform it would flip the kid upside [TS]

  down so it reverse gravity and it is so [TS]

  surprising good platformer for something [TS]

  that is a crass Lee fast-food branded [TS]

  game released for at the time the [TS]

  behemoth of home consoles and reviews [TS]

  where you know people were like this is [TS]

  this garbage sellout crap and there were [TS]

  others that praised the platforming [TS]

  elements of it I rented it when I was a [TS]

  kid and was surprised that it wasn't [TS]

  awful and kept it longer than you know [TS]

  the regular two or three days or [TS]

  whatever they gave you the grocery store [TS]

  you know where you used to be able to [TS]

  rent video games and then you found [TS]

  yourself inexplicably craving the grip [TS]

  well the crazy thing was I lived in a [TS]

  suburb of dallas where they were [TS]

  test-marketing the McStuffins for does [TS]

  anybody know what the McStuffins is it's [TS]

  on disney junior right [TS]

  all right take a baguette hollow it out [TS]

  and put meat and cheese and grease into [TS]

  it so they would have like a pepperoni [TS]

  pizza mix toughens and so when I found [TS]

  myself going Wow mcdonalds I see it in a [TS]

  whole new light [TS]

  let's go to McDonald's mom there's this [TS]

  weird thing that is crazier than the [TS]

  mcrib on the menu I was like let's go to [TS]

  Burger King mom [TS]

  this place creeps me out there but the [TS]

  game it really is surprisingly good and [TS]

  it wouldn't seem that way from the way [TS]

  that it's described and and believe it [TS]

  or not it was reiterated into i want to [TS]

  say master master system game called [TS]

  global gladiators or something or [TS]

  another with the same two leads but [TS]

  completely unrecognizable compared to [TS]

  the nes game the kids y'all I it is [TS]

  better than spot the cool adventure [TS]

  it is better than uh face the chuckwagon [TS]

  fido dido fight is better than 50 Dido [TS]

  is that game where you play as annoyed [TS]

  but you know what I mean [TS]

  yo annoyed yeah it's better than you [TS]

  know it and it was released in europe [TS]

  for our European incomparable listeners [TS]

  as mcdonald land which is probably what [TS]

  they just shouldn't call it i'm still [TS]

  trying to get over mix toughens actually [TS]

  that was everybody who ate them yeah [TS]

  yeah yeah alright sounds delicious to me [TS]

  Greg moss your turn i'm going to jump [TS]

  all the way forward in time to the ps2 [TS]

  whoa [TS]

  whiplash yeah i know that i bought it [TS]

  from a friend who was dumping it because [TS]

  he was moving for ten dollars and it [TS]

  included all of his games including [TS]

  shadow of the classes and all of the [TS]

  saved games on his memory cartridges [TS]

  which is how my kids stumbled across a [TS]

  savegame for lego star wars named Jake [TS]

  big cock [TS]

  wow they got one that's somewhere and [TS]

  I'm going to choose burnout three [TS]

  revenge and the reason i'm choosing it [TS]

  is because it was just a hell of a lot [TS]

  of fun my kids for five years ago my [TS]

  wife and I would sit around the TV [TS]

  taking 45 minute long turns just [TS]

  smashing the hell out of cars and in [TS]

  when you crashed in that game it would [TS]

  go into a slow motion of your car being [TS]

  destroyed or your opponent's car being [TS]

  destroyed and it was just tons of fun [TS]

  and we spent nights and nights and [TS]

  nights playing this game together as a [TS]

  family [TS]

  screw you haters destruction it brings [TS]

  the whole family together so that's a no [TS]

  we played on the ps1 what's the game [TS]

  where all you do is smash of the cars [TS]

  and there's a killer clown who tries to [TS]

  kill you first met listed metal oh my [TS]

  god I cannot tell you how much time I [TS]

  spent playing that game and it's just [TS]

  you know it's just ridiculous [TS]

  destruction but fun instructions good [TS]

  video game destruction [TS]

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  comfortable John what do you have [TS]

  I continue to be disappointed that no [TS]

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  someone stole shadow of the colossus but [TS]

  anyway yes number three it has to be and [TS]

  I can't believe it's a testament to the [TS]

  quality of recent games this is pushed [TS]

  out number three Super Mario 64 the most [TS]

  important game with the Apple I on my [TS]

  list or any of your list for that matter [TS]

  I the yeah their biggest take the [TS]

  biggest technological change in the [TS]

  history of video games incontestably was [TS]

  the change from 2d to 3d and Mary 64 was [TS]

  the first great 3d game I cause all the [TS]

  games [TS]

  yeah what's the console this is the [TS]

  console game draft it's not [TS]

  yes if these computers you check on to [TS]

  pretend that there are no computer games [TS]

  in his grand other all actually even if [TS]

  you want to include like first-person [TS]

  shooters and stuff i think mary 64 [TS]

  fulfilled the promise of 3d it in a way [TS]

  that first person shooters didn't [TS]

  because it like instead of like looking [TS]

  through a porthole you finally got to [TS]

  see like the whole world to give an [TS]

  example one of the things you can [TS]

  experience to marry 64 there was much [TS]

  more difficult to express in a [TS]

  first-person shooter type scenario was [TS]

  the joy of flight or the fun of like [TS]

  yeah because if you try to flight in the [TS]

  first person in the game it's something [TS]

  you know you're in a flight simulator [TS]

  it's not the same thing as being able to [TS]

  see the world around you and flying and [TS]

  like the with the way they manage to [TS]

  pull that off and mario 64 it felt more [TS]

  like your dreams of flying then it felt [TS]

  like I'm playing microsoft flight [TS]

  simulator with a gun sticking out of my [TS]

  abdomen or something and platform the [TS]

  same thing like what's fun about jumping [TS]

  with all the 2d games you know its [TS]

  funder or in sideways scrolling jump [TS]

  jump [TS]

  this was a game that line 3ds like you [TS]

  can't do jumping three because how [TS]

  people even tell what the hell they're [TS]

  landing on it will make no sense and all [TS]

  that joy of of super mario brothers in [TS]

  super mario world and all these other [TS]

  games it will be gone because people [TS]

  wouldn't be trying to land on things not [TS]

  being able to control and they pulled it [TS]

  off they figured out jumping in 3d is [TS]

  fun doing back flips onto platforms you [TS]

  know the third dimension all that stuff [TS]

  can actually work and up until that [TS]

  point it wasn't clear that that was the [TS]

  case it's like okay well you can do [TS]

  first-person shooters [TS]

  flight simulators but you're not going [TS]

  to make a little guy running around jump [TS]

  on platforms gonna be so frustrating but [TS]

  they pulled it off and that that's the [TS]

  template for the entire rest of the [TS]

  console 3d third-person video game genre [TS]

  from that point on is not part of the [TS]

  problem with the third person 3d video [TS]

  game consoles genre that wasn't a [TS]

  problem it was very 64 came out did it [TS]

  right [TS]

  many other games followed his footsteps [TS]

  and tried to do it took a long time for [TS]

  any games even through the basics as [TS]

  well as married remember that they're [TS]

  saying back then was the Mary 64 camera [TS]

  sucks but it's still the best camera and [TS]

  you know like in the industry everyone [TS]

  complains about it but it's better than [TS]

  all the other cameras and I was true for [TS]

  a long time i was amazed by super mario [TS]

  64 when it came out as as anybody else [TS]

  and I thought it was a fantastic game [TS]

  and i love it at the time and I just [TS]

  tried to play recently and it's it's [TS]

  frankly unplayable now least at least [TS]

  with the n64 stick i still think it's [TS]

  great i mean that but sure what shows on [TS]

  it is that it you know the things that [TS]

  we have polished up at our camera [TS]

  control and Mario itself did camera [TS]

  control better and each subsequent marry [TS]

  again for the point where now galaxy the [TS]

  cameras practically invisible you never [TS]

  worry about it it's practically perfect [TS]

  but Mike takes a long time to build up [TS]

  to that so with the accept but with the [TS]

  exception of character level design and [TS]

  the way you get to do all these fun [TS]

  things in this game they figured out a [TS]

  way to make America game in three it was [TS]

  fun we not making it like we just take [TS]

  the 2-d game and flip it into 3d because [TS]

  that wouldn't work and you know all all [TS]

  the different things that you can do [TS]

  they tried to sliding levels the snow [TS]

  levels where it's slippery and of course [TS]

  the typical lava world in the La lava [TS]

  world that stuff that they I think they [TS]

  did an amazing job of converting game 3d [TS]

  without simply taking it the 2d one [TS]

  extruding it which would not have worked [TS]

  at all think I'm just getting old but I [TS]

  can't deal with that camera anymore [TS]

  make some noise when you reposition I [TS]

  started playing again like a couple of [TS]

  weeks ago and I've come so close to [TS]

  destroying my my one and only n64 [TS]

  controller so many times in that two [TS]

  weeks largely because of a lethal lava [TS]

  land [TS]

  oh my god i have a lot of games in my [TS]

  house but they won Game my six-year-old [TS]

  daughter asks to play as she wants [TS]

  supply she doesn't know the name but she [TS]

  wants the primary 64 over all the other [TS]

  you know I had [TS]

  2d Mario's 3d on the wii on the Gamecube [TS]

  you know PlayStation games the whole [TS]

  nine yards [TS]

  things like Hello Kitty and I'm it's [TS]

  mario 64 that she wants to play mostly [TS]

  because she just likes to run around [TS]

  outside the castle and climb the trees [TS]

  and see the butterflies and stuff like [TS]

  that and the graphics are totally not [TS]

  impressive i have to think that even at [TS]

  six you can tell this is not look like [TS]

  the other amazing HD games that we have [TS]

  but it's fine it's just fun i love the [TS]

  game so much i actually tried the d/s [TS]

  remake oh god yeah I had the DSP make of [TS]

  it to it something is lost [TS]

  I mean it's also I think that's like not [TS]

  a good not a madman Yoshi yeah it's also [TS]

  not a great game to play on a tank top [TS]

  of the castle 13 stars on the 1i think [TS]

  the one gaming moment from this thing I [TS]

  don't know if I brought up my show [TS]

  before but if I have you want to hear it [TS]

  again is since people were so amazed by [TS]

  the three dienes of Mary 64-bit this [TS]

  amazing moment is very few of them into [TS]

  kind of a perfectly like Mary like [TS]

  you're going to go through each level [TS]

  you going to stop people get stars [TS]

  whatever but one of the amazing moments [TS]

  is that as you explore the castle and [TS]

  gotten a bunch of stars at a certain [TS]

  point if you're lucky and I was you will [TS]

  naturally find yourself looking around [TS]

  the castle kind of in awe and once you [TS]

  realize how to use the camera control to [TS]

  look around and you're like what is like [TS]

  what else is in this room who have gone [TS]

  through that door have gone through that [TS]

  door have done those things what else is [TS]

  around here and you look around you look [TS]

  up at the top of the other in the foyer [TS]

  of the castle the top of the ceiling is [TS]

  a little medallion on the ceiling with [TS]

  like a starburst on it and when you look [TS]

  into the starburst like light comes out [TS]

  of it and it fades out and you enter the [TS]

  flying level just you know organically [TS]

  by you looking around because it's fun [TS]

  to look around in a 3d world that [TS]

  probably doesn't work with modern gamers [TS]

  who that is going to look around like [TS]

  that because they're not in all of the [TS]

  amazing graphics that are showing their [TS]

  butt on the n64 i was in all the amazing [TS]

  graphics and I was looking around [TS]

  because it's fun to look around and get [TS]

  the reward for doing that was you get to [TS]

  fly i have fond memories of that game [TS]

  also because it was at a time you know [TS]

  pre wikipedia where you can look up the [TS]

  definitive answers to things there were [TS]

  lots of urban legends around games of [TS]

  that time I remember what the big ones [TS]

  in that was that there were through some [TS]

  elaborate series of events you could you [TS]

  could be Luigi and they would be like [TS]

  slightly doctored screenshots of it and [TS]

  the free photoshop today is we you know [TS]

  that would be like printed in magazines [TS]

  and things like that it's likely clearly [TS]

  cannot be luigi you know I realize have [TS]

  not grown up with like i said earlier [TS]

  have not grown up with Nintendo started [TS]

  22 yeah so I'm i missed me ya missed [TS]

  this whole i missed this whole lot [TS]

  shorter but my kids my kids first video [TS]

  game consoles the wii and so they know [TS]

  all of the Mario and all the Nintendo [TS]

  characters and I I'm fascinated by that [TS]

  because and this is one of things and [TS]

  intelligence that that's great is that [TS]

  they have this because it's like a band [TS]

  of respiratory players wreck they're [TS]

  willing to be in a side-scroller they're [TS]

  willing to play tennis they're playing [TS]

  right and drive guards will play soccer [TS]

  if you want their they're ready [TS]

  the place to play baseball mario mario [TS]

  super sluggers man we put they are you [TS]

  know it's amazing and so they end and [TS]

  yeah it's up [TS]

  yeah my kids know all those characters [TS]

  so well done nintendo i guess for from [TS]

  brainwashing my children good job [TS]

  all right I'm gonna go and I i have a [TS]

  couple of atari 2600 uh things on my [TS]

  list and i'm not going to pick them [TS]

  greatness was a very nice fellow and [TS]

  sent me in the mail a couple years ago [TS]

  an original superman cartridge for Atari [TS]

  and I could play that I dad that is [TS]

  maybe the game I mastered the most my [TS]

  entire life as sad as that is to say I [TS]

  could beat Superman like a minute it was [TS]

  amazing but I'm not gonna pick it i'm [TS]

  going to pick the reason the game that's [TS]

  the reason that i bought next box which [TS]

  is halo I was on my list i love the halo [TS]

  I like the setting i like the it was the [TS]

  first shooter that I had played that had [TS]

  the fun vehicle interaction there was an [TS]

  unfortunate trend after that were like [TS]

  everything had to have vehicles grafted [TS]

  onto in horrible ways even 3rd person [TS]

  games like massive aqui ya half-life [TS]

  half-life 2 has a horrible section we [TS]

  have to drive a dune buggy right it's [TS]

  clear that i love the dune buggy and [TS]

  elegant we talking about your mistake [TS]

  love it the dune buggy is awful it is [TS]

  clearly about somebody saw like oh man [TS]

  you get to drive a warthog [TS]

  running low get-get on a dune buggy or [TS]

  something because we need we need what [TS]

  we need one hour required of carbon no [TS]

  driving vehicle thing or kids will buy [TS]

  this it's totally grafted on doesn't fit [TS]

  so I i love the vehicles and i love that [TS]

  they're the ground-based vehicles and [TS]

  the air vehicles and I in in multiplayer [TS]

  I mean it just changes it's like you're [TS]

  playing it adds that other dimension in [TS]

  the multiplayer where you've got the [TS]

  ability to the the amount of multiplayer [TS]

  time I spent with halo 2 that you know [TS]

  you you're in the air or on the ground [TS]

  uh on a ground vehicle or you are moving [TS]

  around by foot and the fact that those [TS]

  have all all different advantages and [TS]

  disadvantages a lot of fun and even in [TS]

  the single-player campaign having those [TS]

  moments where you get into it was just [TS]

  for me it was it was it was a revelation [TS]

  was like oh wait you mean I can drive [TS]

  the car now or I can get in the back and [TS]

  just kind of fire with the term while [TS]

  someone else is driving just added a [TS]

  whole other layer 2 I different food [TS]

  first person shooters and i like i like [TS]

  to sci-fi story line to of course the [TS]

  Ringworld that they're on and and and [TS]

  they did killer aliens that you're [TS]

  fighting and as somebody who is a [TS]

  marathon fan from way back and played [TS]

  all the marathon and marathon to [TS]

  marathon infinity [TS]

  I like that too that it was you know it [TS]

  was familiar in that way to and since [TS]

  the bunch of guys were were only going [TS]

  to be they got bought by microsoft [TS]

  they're only the xbox i bought next box [TS]

  so I can play it and it's a it's a fun [TS]

  game i had i had halo 1 on the mac to [TS]

  and then obviously after that it was all [TS]

  all xbox and you know when i bought my [TS]

  xbox 360 first thing about was a the [TS]

  latest ale ale game so you know i love [TS]

  it but the vehicles thing is the thing [TS]

  that really put it over the top for me [TS]

  that was really cool and yeah it's kind [TS]

  of been done now but at the time that [TS]

  was uh that was a really awesome [TS]

  addition so i really like the fact that [TS]

  you can either drive or you could take [TS]

  the turret yeah that was a nice when I [TS]

  also like when you're driving the the [TS]

  enemy vehicles that may have that the [TS]

  little uh like one person for the [TS]

  skimmer like landspeeder kind of thing [TS]

  that you're driving around that was that [TS]

  was kind of a fun vehicle to and then [TS]

  when you're [TS]

  when you're flying that was also a lot [TS]

  of fun to fly around but I remember that [TS]

  is being one of the first games that i [TS]

  was like waiting for that there was [TS]

  actually liked video of the gameplay [TS]

  that you would see on the internet as [TS]

  opposed to like before that you would be [TS]

  like reading like pc gamer and it would [TS]

  be like the screenshots of games you'd [TS]

  have to go to prevent what it would be [TS]

  like to play them but unfortunately i [TS]

  remember the video like even from one of [TS]

  the steve jobs keynote swear he was [TS]

  talking about how awesome [TS]

  halo would be and then you know yeah [TS]

  that's what that's why I wanted to play [TS]

  it on the mac yeah you're purest no not [TS]

  appear is because the mac part was [TS]

  terrible but i really was so I was so [TS]

  angry that they took that with Microsoft [TS]

  took that away from us yep it was like [TS]

  there it was like the final act of an [TS]

  evil giant this is why we can't think [TS]

  it's true it's true i'm looking forward [TS]

  to destiny now that now that those guys [TS]

  have bought their freedom from microsoft [TS]

  and destiny is going to be released on [TS]

  PlayStation and Xbox so did you play a [TS]

  halo 4 i have played some of it i have I [TS]

  i have it on my 360 yeah I played it all [TS]

  the way it's a little I feel like that [TS]

  doesn't like a metroid prime for I don't [TS]

  know I don't know but it's kinda there's [TS]

  not a lot more of the same but i never [TS]

  played a lot more I think I never played [TS]

  ODST halo yeah I never played ODST i [TS]

  played all of them and yeah i mean [TS]

  they're great they're enjoyable but [TS]

  they're they're recycling a lot now that [TS]

  the amount of new stuff for the amount [TS]

  that you're just experiencing it over is [TS]

  it's a diminishing returns as they go [TS]

  deeper in the pile I guess what [TS]

  seriously who plays first person games [TS]

  on a consolation I jump I jump from Halo [TS]

  2 halo 4 and so for me it was like I had [TS]

  a lot of catching up to do [TS]

  so yes it looks exciting i'm hoping they [TS]

  do you mean here's some cool stuff and I [TS]

  get to be fair a halo 4 is not actually [TS]

  was with that bungee or was that that [TS]

  was no Lee know that's that's their own [TS]

  343 out of you [TS]

  yeah yeah that was the deal [TS]

  that's how about their freedom is that [TS]

  the intellectual property 4x4 for halo [TS]

  stays with Microsoft but they can run [TS]

  away with bungie studios make their own [TS]

  camp so anyway so that's the that's the [TS]

  end of the draft [TS]

  oh my god around this is a travesty you [TS]

  have at least Justine a six they would [TS]

  what is that we should let us at least [TS]

  Neymar titles of all right all right [TS]

  we'll do one more round but first a word [TS]

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  tell you what let's do it let's do a [TS]

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  just get you another 30 seconds just got [TS]

  30 seconds yeah alright Steve go ahead [TS]

  say it's okay my 32nd pic is silent hill [TS]

  their horror games before silent hill [TS]

  but silent hill was the first to really [TS]

  do it right [TS]

  I you know the resident evil games are [TS]

  more of a visceral dogs jumping through [TS]

  the windows sort of horror and Silent [TS]

  Hill is really more of a psychological [TS]

  horror about an ever mounting sense of [TS]

  dread that just endlessly ratchets up as [TS]

  the game goes on [TS]

  yes technically clunky but i think it [TS]

  actually turns all of its weaknesses [TS]

  into strengths and you know I strongly [TS]

  consider picking silent hill 2 because [TS]

  that also is fantastic but it's never [TS]

  really scary and this one genuinely is a [TS]

  frightening game also have to throw out [TS]

  a shout out to a Carioca whose music is [TS]

  the best music I've ever heard in the [TS]

  video game barn on period [TS]

  alright Tony and won game 4 30 seconds [TS]

  as many games like one game [TS]

  ok i will go to 2 rocket for for the [TS]

  dreamcast from the year 2000 the [TS]

  dreamcast would be my favorite console [TS]

  of all time um I remember buying a [TS]

  dreamcast with my college roommate when [TS]

  the dreamcast was like being [TS]

  discontinued and it was you get it for [TS]

  like incredibly cheap i think it was [TS]

  like 75 bucks and we bought pretty much [TS]

  the entire dreamcast library of games [TS]

  also because there weren't very many 22 [TS]

  rocket is that a kind of bizarre awesome [TS]

  japanese puzzle game where the [TS]

  single-player you can replace arrows and [TS]

  you have to leave mice into space ships [TS]

  so that they can go to the moon but you [TS]

  have to keep the cats that are following [TS]

  the mice out of the spaceships because [TS]

  they eat the mice but then it has this [TS]

  incredibly frenetic multiplayer mode [TS]

  with us you know you play with up to [TS]

  four players and for spaceships and [TS]

  replacing arrows to try and bring my [TS]

  stew your spaceship and bring cats to [TS]

  your other people and this game turns [TS]

  people into animals in ways that I've [TS]

  never seen I've never heard as violent [TS]

  and Falmouth's wearing as I've heard [TS]

  from people playing 22 rocket even [TS]

  people who should know better [TS]

  sochi rocket is a great game and the [TS]

  dreamcast was a great system and that's [TS]

  what I'm going with [TS]

  all right track of time voice s number [TS]

  what's your Quick Pick teenage mutant [TS]

  ninja turtles to the arcade game for the [TS]

  nes because it was a weird attempt to [TS]

  crunch the ninja turtles arcade game [TS]

  into an nes size package and it still [TS]

  actually worked pretty well I own that [TS]

  game and when when you combine the price [TS]

  of that cartridge with the amount of [TS]

  quarters i spent in the arcade the small [TS]

  fortune that game separated me from is [TS]

  incalculable Greg what do you have [TS]

  i am going to choose a game that is also [TS]

  a console in itself Atari super pong was [TS]

  the home version of the arcade palm i [TS]

  found one in a goodwill for five bucks [TS]

  at about 15 years ago when I bought it [TS]

  and the D batteries to make it run cost [TS]

  more than the consulate yeah but I set [TS]

  it up at a party that night and of the [TS]

  four different pong variations we played [TS]

  it for hours [TS]

  great fun from a simpler time [TS]

  nice John what about you are my last pic [TS]

  is predictably eco I and very mention of [TS]

  the classes from the same makers this is [TS]

  a sign for maybe another world also [TS]

  known as out-of-this-world i think in [TS]

  the US this was the first party game [TS]

  that I played and it grabbed me in ways [TS]

  that games with much fancier pedigree [TS]

  didn't from like well-known makers I i [TS]

  wrote an article about our technical [TS]

  couple years ago and the best part of [TS]

  their masterpiece video series if you [TS]

  want to hear me talk about this more you [TS]

  can read that maybe Jason put in the [TS]

  shots I i think it stands out because [TS]

  the developers had such different [TS]

  priorities than their peers did they [TS]

  focused all their energy on one or two [TS]

  things a animation lighting atmosphere [TS]

  and all that they did extremely well and [TS]

  in particular the sort of consistent non [TS]

  chip-based level design it was an actual [TS]

  castle instead of a bunch of World box [TS]

  pens connected by magic portals and it [TS]

  really stands out as a place that I can [TS]

  remember being despite just having seen [TS]

  on TV screen [TS]

  Jason still hasn't finished this game [TS]

  although he has it so I don't want to [TS]

  ruin the ending but suffice it to say [TS]

  that ego was my journey before journey [TS]

  existed [TS]

  alright like that you mention out of [TS]

  this world that is one of my favorite pc [TS]

  games and since i already mentioned [TS]

  Superman i'm not going to pick it [TS]

  instead i'm going to pick the 20 atari [TS]

  2600 game i played the most which is the [TS]

  entire e26 a report of space invaders I [TS]

  cannot tell you how many god I mean you [TS]

  talk about wasting your life as such [TS]

  hold space invaders space invaders at [TS]

  the first port that was actually better [TS]

  than the arcade game [TS]

  yeah i mean i had the pacman cartridge [TS]

  and that was so much worse although [TS]

  except for one thing which was it once [TS]

  you had it knocked you did not pay my [TS]

  doctor just not creating enough it was [TS]

  really more yeah but uh space invaders [TS]

  misc was a great re 2600 game it wasn't [TS]

  just a popular arcade game as an a 2600 [TS]

  game it was great and I played it for [TS]

  efforts and Leslie played that game and [TS]

  you know and damn damage the pace that [TS]

  don't did did did did did did as that [TS]

  it's been up and the space invaders came [TS]

  to lower and did you ever do the double [TS]

  shot hack no yeah if you hold the couple [TS]

  of the difficulty buttons down on the [TS]

  2600 and turn the power on you can fire [TS]

  two bullets the same time sweet baby i [TS]

  did do that actually that does sound [TS]

  familiar [TS]

  it's based on the strength of the space [TS]

  invaders asteroid was my favorite arcade [TS]

  game at the time and so I actually [TS]

  bought a black-market VCS 2600 asteroids [TS]

  before it came out it was the sears [TS]

  edition and the serial number had been [TS]

  scratched off and i paid like 75 bucks [TS]

  which was like all i had from my [TS]

  newspaper route and I was so bitterly [TS]

  bitterly disappointed not not not the [TS]

  first time and not the last video games [TS]

  video games i should say so damn boring [TS]

  or video k and more and couldn't be here [TS]

  and so let's let's walk through what he [TS]

  would have selected over done with the [TS]

  abused elders and onto the abused and [TS]

  yeah we should we should we get to say I [TS]

  remain helpless titles only for you let [TS]

  me know i'm going to talk about Dan and [TS]

  then and then and then you guys can [TS]

  throw your you're letting dance picture [TS]

  off the tape out there so so mario kart [TS]

  64 was his first pick and 64 version of [TS]

  mario kart which would have driven me to [TS]

  not pick mario kart wii he then shoot [TS]

  would have chosen red red dead [TS]

  redemption on the xbox 360 that's kind [TS]

  of a pc game [TS]

  yeah then he would have been really [TS]

  angry that Tony picked goldeneye because [TS]

  he would have picked go by so he would [TS]

  have gone to his next election but sadly [TS]

  Tony already picked Super Mario Brothers [TS]

  3 so he would have had to move onto [TS]

  bushido blade for the poet's one [TS]

  that's a classic fighter game very [TS]

  different if you could hit people with [TS]

  one foot if you did it right its kind of [TS]

  sitting stylized samurai fighting game [TS]

  was that was classic and his 32nd pic [TS]

  would have been baseball stars on the [TS]

  nes oh boy on the NES not the Neo Geo [TS]

  well their baseball stars for the nest [TS]

  what Dan says in his email baseball [TS]

  starts to cousin Eugene because he's you [TS]

  know at Disneyland [TS]

  okay who has a let's let's do the clear [TS]

  out whatever else is on your list [TS]

  Steve do you have anything else that you [TS]

  didn't mention that you want to just [TS]

  mention now in past I had a crapload of [TS]

  stuff i will just speed through it first [TS]

  Super Mario Brothers I grand theft auto [TS]

  3 ghouls and ghosts but a contra River [TS]

  eight megalomania pitfall Raiders etc [TS]

  etc and finally animal crossing city [TS]

  fulco its left off and morrowind oh my [TS]

  god more wind and psychonauts NHL never [TS]

  mind he thought that was going to be a [TS]

  three-parter Tony what's your what's [TS]

  your leftovers [TS]

  alright star wars knights of the old [TS]

  republic for the xbox Pikmin for [TS]

  gamecube jet set radio also known as jet [TS]

  grind radio for the dreamcast final [TS]

  fantasy 7 for the PlayStation GTA 3 4 [TS]

  playstation 2 it's Steve mentioned gears [TS]

  of war resident evil 4 for the gamecube [TS]

  metal gear solid for the PlayStation [TS]

  castlevania symphony of the night for [TS]

  the PlayStation megaman 2 for the nest [TS]

  psychonauts for the xbox I think Steve [TS]

  mentioned that and then orange box / [TS]

  portal for the xbox 360 which probably [TS]

  would have been my next pic but I wasn't [TS]

  sure how that it is it's like multiple [TS]

  games in one pc games that's better PCX [TS]

  in the pc land [TS]

  I mean it was available for xbox at the [TS]

  same time it was it was for certain [TS]

  games that are really pc games and [TS]

  half-life is one of us have a portal was [TS]

  you know was available for PC yeah yeah [TS]

  I guess I mean you guys pick things that [TS]

  were also available as arcade cabinets [TS]

  truth is any leftovers i had to backup [TS]

  list one of them was adjective location [TS]

  air fortress developed by how labs for [TS]

  the nes startropics i think i'm not sure [TS]

  if it was also done by how but it was [TS]

  also a nintendo own property [TS]

  today do you have to spend space dollars [TS]

  in the stardrop no startropics is an [TS]

  over-the-top legend of zelda type [TS]

  adventure game which is really super [TS]

  awesome and then start tropics to zodos [TS]

  revenge and then my other one was was my [TS]

  final fantasy fanboy list of final [TS]

  fantasy 12 and three us numbering Greg [TS]

  at anything I've got I've got donkey [TS]

  kong on the colecovision just because it [TS]

  was the first home game that could rival [TS]

  the arcade game that i had played it was [TS]

  incredibly faithful even if it didn't do [TS]

  all the levels and pitfall for the 2608 [TS]

  fault that's a good one that's a great [TS]

  one [TS]

  pretty much anything activision did in [TS]

  the beginning freeway megalomania river [TS]

  aid kaboom with you know you get to [TS]

  10,000 points on kaboom his expression [TS]

  changes that's just idea what I did [TS]

  instead of having a childhood you're not [TS]

  wrong [TS]

  ah John I didn't have many more pics [TS]

  just for nintendo good stuff I've got [TS]

  the legend of zelda twilight princess [TS]

  which is a as I've said many shows [TS]

  rising in my esteem as time passes [TS]

  metroid prime which is one of the rare [TS]

  first-person shooter style games that I [TS]

  think fits in well on a console resident [TS]

  evil but the gamecube remake not the [TS]

  eight original PlayStation 1 it's a [TS]

  fantastic game also a strange case we're [TS]

  like the remake is actually better than [TS]

  the original because it is totally the [TS]

  original just nicer kinda like shadow [TS]

  the class on the ps3 and rounding out [TS]

  the legend of zelda the windwaker HD [TS]

  remake or the regular either one works [TS]

  they're both great right and and my 2 [TS]

  left overs were at our superb and he's [TS]

  like Superman except he has the symbol [TS]

  of Atari on his shirt know the 2600 [TS]

  version of superman which I have a [TS]

  cartridge now thanks Greg [TS]

  he blinks when he's in the room with two [TS]

  bad guys out and the other 1i had down [TS]

  is since i had that PS one i spent a lot [TS]

  of time playing crash bandicoot which [TS]

  was a very nice 3d platformer why has [TS]

  that not been remastered why like those [TS]

  three games are so good [TS]

  yeah yeah I enjoyed having a little [TS]

  sci-fi mad side [TS]

  this kind of thing happening and it's a [TS]

  very bad naughty dog to isn't very yeah [TS]

  yeah very nice and get around to be [TS]

  doing nicely rendered 3d problems that [TS]

  PlayStation games are so low poly and [TS]

  Syria low-res texture that I mean I'd [TS]

  love to see silent hill right one [TS]

  remastered but definitely keep in mind [TS]

  that I was coming from the 2600 so it [TS]

  was very impressed [TS]

  okay no that's one because we're very [TS]

  impressive back in the day it's just [TS]

  that to remaster them now would be a [TS]

  non-trivial you know just remembered [TS]

  yeah and that pretty much close the book [TS]

  on this draft I think oh yeah I know as [TS]

  a draft man somebody close the door [TS]

  because I sure do like craft let a match [TS]

  yeah I so this was great lots of games [TS]

  and if you have no they are in position [TS]

  of old consoles you play these games or [TS]

  emulators but this was a lot of fun [TS]

  little little walk down memory lane for [TS]

  some people lots of lots of games of the [TS]

  more recent vintage and then for people [TS]

  like me and Greg lots of things from the [TS]

  old times or tired when life was good [TS]

  yeah back in the day disappointed [TS]

  there's never been a prospector based [TS]

  game to speak of [TS]

  oh I'm sure there has your lucky come on [TS]

  dig dug that's good [TS]

  minor 2014 einer just a straight-up [TS]

  minor to their minor cursor to load [TS]

  writer [TS]

  yep I not talking about loadrunner that [TS]

  until we get to the computer game draft [TS]

  sorry I'm getting ahead of myself [TS]

  alright i'd like to thank my guests for [TS]

  picking many video games this is a lot [TS]

  of fun [TS]

  Steve lots as always thank you so much [TS]

  for coming and boy you play a lot of [TS]

  video games damn a lot of old video [TS]

  games [TS]

  my pleasure sir and yes I have wasted my [TS]

  life all right so long as you can [TS]

  consider that little all those video [TS]

  games a flash for before your eyes as [TS]

  you're on your deathbed and you'll say [TS]

  somebody had me a joystick I would play [TS]

  a few ballgames [TS]

  I actually think it's a positive yeah I [TS]

  think it's good i would get me off the [TS]

  streets [TS]

  yep that's right now man imagine the [TS]

  life of crime you want to add things he [TS]

  would be the victim [TS]

  Greg NOS thank you for being here taking [TS]

  victims and and baking my pics seem very [TS]

  contemporary [TS]

  thank you I i just want them to stop [TS]

  making video games so hard and [TS]

  complicated yeah i agree with you I'm [TS]

  with you Tony sindelar as always thank [TS]

  you for being here and and you also play [TS]

  a lot of video games i I'm disgustedly [TS]

  too many never not true there is no such [TS]

  quantity I is to you and thanks for [TS]

  dropping in it was great I you you were [TS]

  like a video game episode what's that [TS]

  all about you came with some some crazy [TS]

  pics i'd never [TS]

  pics i'd never [TS]

  heard about battletoads so thank you for [TS]

  enlightening me and changing my life [TS]

  finally my my time working customer [TS]

  service at funcoland had a purpose and [TS]

  John siracusa as always thank you for I [TS]

  I'm I'm glad nobody sniped your skype [TS]

  journey because that really would have [TS]

  been ugly [TS]

  I was prepared for it could have had in [TS]

  fact i'm kind of disappointed that you [TS]

  guys are picked terrible atari 2600 and [TS]

  just that but you know whenever we're [TS]

  orange back in my day we bought our [TS]

  video games and Fred cold war games [TS]

  don't exist without our games i felt [TS]

  compelled to pick older games to make [TS]

  people not feel bad it's like they're [TS]

  not picking anything that makes dirty [TS]

  that the year starts with the two that [TS]

  would be scary right you guys like 160 [TS]

  classics that your classics i did not i [TS]

  didn't pick anything from vintage game [TS]

  the last five years yeah like you know [TS]

  like a hall-of-fame until you've got [TS]

  nostalgic coloring these things it's [TS]

  really you know it's hard to try to know [TS]

  in my day we picked up our video game [TS]

  consoles shears along with some tools [TS]

  know some tough skins i look forward to [TS]

  forcing Jason to buy a playstation 4 to [TS]

  play last guardian 2016 yeah get ready [TS]

  Jason alright in 20 2016 upon reading a [TS]

  little help I'm being optimistic yeah [TS]

  any day nah I'll just I'll just borrow [TS]

  some counsel for that [TS]

  yeah pretty much no I was happy to let [TS]

  let journey stay out there for you [TS]

  although honestly I'm I depicted in the [TS]

  second round so good that you got when [TS]

  you did but I i thought that was only [TS]

  right all right well that uh that wraps [TS]

  it up we've picked many video games and [TS]

  I'd like to thank everybody out there [TS]

  for listening [TS]

  once again I've been your host Jason [TS]

  cell thanks for listening to your [TS]

  comfortable we will see you next time [TS]