00:00:15 ◼ ► whenever I say your name when you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► around I do it to the tune of nasty boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/18">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► by janet jackson i don't know why but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/21">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► iceland man i'm just glad I'm glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► think of me i def for you I i always do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► Mercedes boy how does that go see do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► want a ride on my John Roderick oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► sounds I never really held during your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► oh that's stealing from Groucho Marx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/44">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► there's so many ways I'm like Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► O'Toole and a few crucial ways I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/49">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► you're tall you're slender your English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/52">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► mm you're in dashing in that Pixar movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► I like drunk i enjoy him i really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/58">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► him in the other room there's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► one on the mpr there's a show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► sponsored by the Robert Wood Johnson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/66">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► Foundation I laugh out loud every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► here but I want Robert to be a nickname [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► too just because you can get the Triple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/72">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► lesser-known brother Richard they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/78">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► need a good name the foundation after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► him they just they found the grants for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/81">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► just disappearing my eyes you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/82">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► my question is do you think there might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► be some chance that you have some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► of a slight electrical charge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► causes any electronic devices in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► well it's interesting at I don't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/104">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► inclined to attribute the fact that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► my equipment my my computer equipment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► particular fails I i tribute that to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► fact that computers are computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► although we we use them every day and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/122">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► think that they're great they are at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► level of development that the airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► was when it was powered by bicycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► motors and had had to have seven guys on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► each wing to get them aloft like we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► still at the dawn of this era and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► machines my Apple here in front of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► which I which I love it's very beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/143">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► but it is up it is a it is other horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► it doesn't do any of the things that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► claims to do it doesn't do any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► it doesn't do any of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/156">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► even managed to eke out it doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► those things well and it just sits here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► on my table top as a as like a like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/163">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► talisman of all of all the potential i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► mean i can imagine what it would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► I i can imagine that my children will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► will love their computers and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► movies on them sluice live streaming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► there will be no glitches but for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/179">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► it's just it's just it's all potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/183">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► it's there's no kinetic energy to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► things I find I i find it baffling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/190">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► hmm i'm just for what it's worth i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► add another clinic or something you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/197">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► go to but you should check the charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► thing because i think that you live hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► you play hard I think your heart your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► heart on things while you were you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► you thinking of his sexual chemistry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► that doesn't affect computers i do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► it it is powerful but as far as i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/209">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► okay you know what you know what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► run a connectivity diagnostic to see but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► it had it would it would only tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► that the computer is having problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► mhm it's not gonna add you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/224">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► diagonal the word diagnostic means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► diagnose and you can tell you what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/229">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► you know that's good haha that the root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/233">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► of diagnostic diagnose Frank diagnose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► okay from the Greek god knows which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► means to know what is the problem and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► running in diet meaning across daya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/245">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► um and this is the diagnostic program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/251">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► does nothing it just tells me that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► can't connect and then there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► else that can connect and then pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/260">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► soon I'm walking around reading a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► out loud to myself and and and happier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/262">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► frankly see strike me as somebody who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► not a turn light is overused you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► a willful light but you seemed to revel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► in in the physical objects of life more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► than the virtual things and when you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► you seem to use them for a purpose i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► don't see you just kinda sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► well I don't see you know usually but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► then I know you're an mp3 tag or so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► knew a little you know i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► kick around on the computer happily but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► it but it just it fails to live up to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► I'll see a big hands and you have became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► you might be having hidden two keys at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► once or something you know what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/301">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► whole idea that maybe it's the sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► chemistry thing I'm gonna look into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► because it's possible it that that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► caused me problems and other walks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► mhm sure I mean it gets me out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► traffic tickets when the woman when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► cop is a woman must look a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► cinemax little cinemax Police Department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► the problem is you're going to go to UW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► gonna go to the the highly lauded I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► believe sexual chemistry clinic and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► gonna be some lady who's working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► graduate degree she's probably her hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/328">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► in a bun she's got big big big glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► you're gonna walk in there and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/331">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► please find out what my problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► help me write but they're right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► that's the root of the problem before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► she even gets the clipboard out the hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► that's right and and she's up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► desk who and then and then Alex Van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► Halen plays the drum solo and then this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/347">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► I don't even know how Alex knows where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/354">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► am he seems to always know where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► going to be he's good with those eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► he plays the that song hot for teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► basically double double double kick drum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► thing that he does that right he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► but it isn't a double-double pick them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► as far as i know how about a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► paddle double pass not a double pedal as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► far as i know he's playing that with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► outstanding ankles I got that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► mm it's eventually going to get to in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► jury's gonna have to get one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/381">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► def leppard deals he's gonna have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► everything triggered a fake arm he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► he have a fact that he was just rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► urw are you a big Def Leppard fan back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► in the day right there overlooking read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► with a pre pyromania era def leppard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► the operator pyromania was the was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► the bridge that I had a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► crossing everything before pyromania i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► thought was solid gold because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► solid gold pyromania now I look back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/408">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► the time very hard for me to swallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► some of those keyboards and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► yeah and it but the thing is back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► yeah it was amazing now this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► before Shania Twain right this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► is mud length should retain what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► is that not the wash my ears out is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► record not produced by Robert mile mile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► and will also take highway to hell i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► believe but but he but tonight was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► 15 years later okay I'm just saying but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► you go back you go back you listen even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► to bringing on the heartbreak and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► is a certain polish glitzy shyness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/445">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► oriental I'd or your beloved Slater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/451">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► you're not gonna hear in venom for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► uh yeah but that polish you know ACDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/459">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► you can polish ACDC all day long it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► still going to be hardcore right I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► that's why that record stands up so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► though is that the songs were tired I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► sure can influence on that the song i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► mean i love you know me we go back we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/474">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► back with ac/dc but i'm telling you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► think for a bonds post bonds got record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► i think that one stands up pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► it's partly because it's very listenable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/481">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► it's super listenable and I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► might lang did then is what producers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► should do which is they listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► band and they say yeah that's good did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► you think about trying a little harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► did you think about trying a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► harder on the next take like sing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► like you mean it and play it like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► mean it ok go and and i think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/502">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► last 10 years last 20 years producers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► mean every kid with a with a Macintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► computer in GarageBand now calls himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► a producer couch and bands yeah i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► that you present company excepted sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► Berlin you are a brilliant producer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► there are a lot of people out there who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/521">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► are actually you are actually selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► themselves to bands as producers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/525">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► bands come in they play their song the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► guy you know turn some reverb on egos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► sounds great and it doesn't sound great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► you know but that but the guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► that's recording them doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► enough to say to say one thing the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/539">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► kill that second snare hit or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► that the little the little details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► that producers that the good producers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► add to make good records great minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► even in the old days and no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► much I spend I I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► describe this but like and i have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► recorded since whatever 1986 has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► been anything is meticulous is what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► do because you really do like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► the ears to hear these little things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► I know you've got the bedding today with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► i love garageband just because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► of it almost like because it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/578">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► difference between exit sketch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► having a big box of paint like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► that I i think i know the limitations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► this and i just love because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► fast for me yeah right and I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► really comfortable using it but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► where do i go back and I'm just listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► to other spam where they called cheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► accident i was listening to and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► like I just the latest thing i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► and she go back and listen to any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► those Yusuf obviously flight bags and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► didn't like pretty much any record by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► somebody good at colton's record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/604">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► interview call the other day like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/609">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► there's so much like personality to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► every song they all sound different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► it doesn't just sound like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/613">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► selected Stadium in in the output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/614">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► setting you know and it doesn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► every tracks it's great it's great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► prototyping but that's one thing i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► about many things i like about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► music like about your your records is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► that there's there's so much there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/627">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► lot of personality and I don't know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► so on the one hand we talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► with some interviews while back and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► talked about how the process works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► you at every level and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► there is a contrast between it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► like you record with relative don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/642">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► what the word is but it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► you're sloppy or something but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/648">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► said you're not going to do 42 takes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► a song but then it seems like you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► listening and definitely in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► track order processing you almost seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/657">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► to function more like an editor some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► well the M in terms of how many passes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/660">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► i'm going to do on a on a vocal tract uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► you're absolutely right i won't i won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► sit and work on vocal tract as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► performer all day but i will be super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/672">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► about you know adding little surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/678">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► twinkles and I think that some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► is that I came of age in the recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► era when all that stuff became more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► more possible it's the John Vanderslice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► ization of indie rock where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► that you have the time you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► resources and you have the inclination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► to put a keyboard part on a song that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/703">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► will never reappear that doesn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► sound doesn't appear anywhere else on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► the record it's just a it's a two second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► thing that that you feel like is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► one-hundred percent necessarily on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► tune and if you if you think back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/721">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► when they recorded the house of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► rising sun right they got four guys in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► room and they said roll it and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► ran the song and then they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► drinking like it if they didn't spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► months and months putting littles on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/737">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► I mean what they did was they spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► months and months rehearsing and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/744">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► something I guess in indie rock we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► do as much or at least we don't do as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/750">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► much it was also a time though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► strikes me that that was a time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/755">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► yeah it was certainly more primitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► recording conditions but don't you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► this is wrong but I think that's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► rock music was not taking it seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/763">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► it was not seen as an already thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► in whatever 1964-65 and the Beatles were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► starting that but I mean was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/772">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► until 67 68 people took the time and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► polish and I wonder if in some ways it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► was just seen as more of a commodity you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► know where columbia records and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► giant roster of people in the message it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► and certainly things like Phil Spector I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► mean they must have just said okay let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► bring a bunch of pros in monkeys whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► you bring a bunch of pros and just plow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► yeah it's absolutely right they did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► think that 50 years from now those tunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► would still be not just relevant but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/796">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► like the the the the underpinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/799">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► foundation of what remains an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► industry of selling music and culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► I mean they made house of the rising sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/809">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► which they didn't write it was a cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► they did it in one take and they thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► that it would go up the charts and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► it would go down the charts and they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► then that would be that would be the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► of it you never hear it again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► or if you did it would be some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► bobby-soxer is playing it on their on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► their little collapsible record player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► no one ever thought that house of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► rising sun would still be played ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► times a day on every classic rock radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► station across the country and across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► the world 50 years later 40 years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► so you're right they just they jammed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► out and they were like next I think when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/846">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► we make music now in the aftermath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/849">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► that we're conscious i think to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/853">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► detriment conscious of the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► potentially we're making it for history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► potentially one day at the library of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► congress a man will sit down and listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► to all the long winters records and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► will identify the keyboard patches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► it would be a matter of some import like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/874">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► unconsciously because of the way we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► all minutely dissected the Beatles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► records and the and all those records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/884">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► that we love the pink floyd records like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► those of us who love recording that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/890">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► know every single microphone they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► on every single part in how many takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► they did that without it I and so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/896">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► you're making music yourself in light of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► that I mean you can't you almost can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► help yourself and that's a pretty high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► bar though if you're still riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► against works kinetically your hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► just hypothetically trying to finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► finish a record I that's got to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/912">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► mean just you must have friends that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► struggle with that at one point or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/917">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► another we all do i don't think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► what's the the great bands and I'm talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/920">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► about the great bands of now not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/924">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► great bands of history but the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/927">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► indie rock bands of now there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► at least one guy in the fan that says or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/930">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► one guy on their team that says this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► thing's got to get done by by monday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/936">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► and the other guys you know if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► to take all the time in the world to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► screw with the Tambling part monday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► 11th is pretty hard it's a hard date so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► that's something that I have lacked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► being a free being a sole proprietor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/953">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► um no one has no one has the authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► to tell me that it's let's do a monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/961">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► the eleventh and so some of tried so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/964">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► many many have tried in fact I've even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► like I'm even sent people letters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► said let's put the black like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► when you call your your wife at work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► say tonight let's pretend that you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/978">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► no you're a nurse coming for a house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► call to help a man who has a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/989">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► very much like that i have called some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/994">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► of my friends and said let's pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/999">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► that you have some authority over me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► you are going to come right me angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► letter or grab me by the shirt collar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► and tell me that my records get done by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► X day and my friends have all been good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► sports about it and they showed up at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► house in the nurse's costume and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► no no I made that what did i send that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► Oh visual guy you're looking for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► yeah that's right i'm not looking for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► mean that's the problem you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► can empower somebody to have power over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► you if you are empowering them then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► power is still yours you can't give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► the power and then haven't had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► effect on you if you're unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► really into role-playing right so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► I've I've I've tried to get somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► to set a deadline and up until now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► know that has worked but just recently I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► got a email from my different john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► hodgman and he said get your record done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► by labor day sincerely John Hodgman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► and for some reason the succinct mess of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► that and reading it aloud in his voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► which Brooks no argument is working his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► voice just naturally Brooks no argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► got kinda now you put it that way you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► asking almost kind of like a headmaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► quality that's right John Hodgman tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► you something in the in the infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► definitive voice you don't you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► going to like if you do try and argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► you're just gonna sound like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► whining no he's gonna say no your record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► should be done by labor day sincerely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► that is all sincerely john hodgman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► it's actually that has actually had had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► an effect on me I've been working I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► been writing just I think it's because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► hold him in high esteem and so I so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► a different it's not you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► that I i tasked him with with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► the job of telling me to do it he did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► he did it sort of independently as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► struggled to complete his own work he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► knows you just you do you need an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► you know what else it is because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► and so I've talked about him and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► like we're like we're the best friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► in the world where not just the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► who's really nice to me that's times you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► and him but he on he's eep and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► like him can have I think can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► tremendous effect not just because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► being an expert and former professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► liberation but also it's just it's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► we've talked about this at length you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► so surrounded by people everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► these days especially social media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► especially in your rock biz but you show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► surrounded by people who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► precisely 60 fanuc but who never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► say true things or or would never say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► anything to you that was too far at odds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► with what they perceive to be your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► I i only say that because like to be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► have somebody who you really admire give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► you a note that shows they care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► what you do and are interested in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► output on i find that to be a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► mhm and sometimes it makes you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► finish things other times it makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► wonder why I'm having trouble finishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► it because maybe I don't think it's up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► to par for somebody like John I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► what I'm saying like to me I that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► really complicated but don't you think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► mean you talked at length about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► like so many things the news it's a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► know you're surrounded you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► you know you got everybody's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► screw you and in you and steal your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► copper pipe and stuff and and a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► line will prevent shown that people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► interview where you yell at the hippies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► and drink seltzer but didn't you find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► to be the case I mean you're surrounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► people hey man that's great like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► awesome i really like that thing you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► well yeah it's just I the the sickle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► fantic nature of our culture now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► based on this false idea that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► nobody wants nobody wants anyone to yell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► at them and so they're so they work very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► hard to never say anything controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► to never say anything that that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► possibly inspire someone to yell at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► back you know and so people are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► to each other in this within this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► language of like completely failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► meaning all the time in a friendly talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► happy friendly talk all the time i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► talking about specifically in the arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► in the West but and an artist have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► tendency to do it because they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► varying degrees they all end up feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► screwed at one time or another by an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► interviewer i did this happen to you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► know where you meet you you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► something that you would consider trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► to be honest and then just means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► everybody but you say something and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► know obviously some interviews you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► assume that they're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► something you want to say something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► you haven't said before and by exposing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► yourself i'm sure it's happening million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► times by exposing yourself you get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► secret some kind of yeah they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► like fish that they take they take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► thing where you say oh that guy's a dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► and they make it the headline of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► no I don't think I didn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► something going like the story that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► my feeling my assignment for this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► is to get to basically hang out and wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► mm-hmm and so this person gives me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► yeah best evidence by things like I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► an interview wants to just I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► stopped after like five minutes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► the person was like would you say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► you have a really are kind of invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► the productivity space online with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► blog that has been as jaw-droppingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► successful as your husband and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► it's personally not only would i not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► articulate you how important it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► you not even pretend that i said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► this is why I as usual with energy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► won't name names because there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► of names that can be named when talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► with you but I i know at least a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► occasions you have basically said okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► this interviews over i'm going to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► and send it to you that will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► I have done bad i was what I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► is a little short interview in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► well-known if indeed periodical and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► read it like now screener you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► always see you know people don't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► get you and you're like yeah well I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► yeah I said I you know what I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► I'm gonna make this easy on us both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► I'm just gonna write your questions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► my answers and the hill workout great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► don't worry all right you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► alright your questions in your voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► don't worry I'll just somebody signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► somebody asking for an interview i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► start by mailing them back written pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► quotes the sounds this existence i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► the whole industries and artifice it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► not like we're sitting around you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► talking about folk dancing or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► this is you know this is people who call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► you at the last conceivable moment for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► their deadlines and are looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► something that they can jam into 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► words or whatever in most cases right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► you're like a like an actual magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► some it's likely be some long setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► you're not going to get like a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► thousand word oh well but even when even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► if you do I mean I the the interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► that comes to mind for me I didn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► long feature in a national magazine at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► about some other musicians that i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► just been touring with in Spain and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► interviewer was he was a super nice guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► in a smart guy and we SAT just talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► all day and it was it would it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► a very candid tour you know we were on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► tour together and i was there kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► a junior capacity just like just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► feeling lucky to be there and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► on the tour was really great they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► embraced me please don't please don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► eat off Matthews craft services wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► like that at all know and and by the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► of the tour we were just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► we we were speaking to each other who as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► you do old friends so I'm giving this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► interview a long feature interview and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► this than the interviewer knows all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► about this tour and so he's he's asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► me all these questions so what was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► like and I i I'd only been back a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► or so from this thing so I'm still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► this mindset like I'm incredibly close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► friends with these guys my god these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► guys this is a bunch of nuts and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► well these guys are just a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► head and this guy's riding it down note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► 4 nodes and this this massive a article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► about me comes out like heralding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► release of my new record and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► pole quotes are like so anyway these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► guys are total drugs Jonna and I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► I get some angry phone calls from these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► people saying like what you know we let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► you into our our little scene and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► this is you know yet this huge national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► article and your talk about us all feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► of things and I was like but but no I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► was I thought we were I was doing it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► like haha like we're friends and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► like boo and they're there are a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► of guys from that scene that still I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► mean that the what the guys from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► that whole world that were that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► genuinely close to understood and it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► probably wouldn't have happened to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► because they wouldn't have been they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► they would never have let their guard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► down that way in an interview and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► happen to me and it sort of cauterized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► me a little bit particularly about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► talking about other people you know i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► still let my guard down that way talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► about myself but if somebody says so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► what do you think of Merlin man i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► going to say he looks he looks bone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► he's a four-flusher and a double dealer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► eazy-e bacon cook a ham I think worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► what about that worst dad in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► but you can you quote me on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► I'm not going to do that anymore you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► know because because you don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► power over how that gets how that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► messy but there are these guys guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► I respected and guys who and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► respecting guys who enjoyed their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► company who if I meet them at some big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► rock thing like i did I ran into one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► barcelona one time and he can I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► oh hey and I Inanna you there's only so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► yes it is slightly indeterminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► and you know you can't every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► see the guy grabbed him again and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► look I'm still really sorry I called you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► a drunk in that magazine even though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► are a drunk but I know that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► between you me and everybody that's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► met you but come on this is not to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► here's the thing John this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► occupational hazard for you that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► you should turn into an Occupational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► opportunity that's funny good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► I don't know I don't know I did my bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► odenkirk impression the other day and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► was really embarrassed but to fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► break the here's the thing you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► know you can you can play sly about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► but I know how much you enjoy being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► bull in the china closet and the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► that makes that complicated is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► bullet but the china closet I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► sometimes maybe I think you're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► wrong store and I I told you a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► ago I think you're coming around this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► now that you are a pundit but I said a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► long time ago like I i told you i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► consider you are generations Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► Nelson Reilly like I think you should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► you know what I mean you're the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► person that would have been on Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► Douglas M and whatever jacked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► whatever drug that you know i'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► though you like I thought I could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► sea-ice consider you and punched the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► wrong word about bon vivant or raconteur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► or some other kind of slightly gay word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► like I think I think of you not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► way like I the thing is your this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► thing about you and this has been my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► counsel to you for like 16 years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► everyone spent is that is that you on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► seems to me that like creating excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► rock music is is a facet of what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► and i just want to say I think there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► a time when you poop food that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► you regard yourself as clear that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► in employment you know even putting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► these great records for him or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► since the late nineties and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► wonder how has that changed about that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► see you being a funny guy on twitter now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► I see you going in doing what I report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► how to call them in the believer you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► you're doing more stuff where by virtue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► of the fact that you are a bull in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► china closet that attracts people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► want you to go and put that voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► somewhere that's it's not just around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► lot of as you called it don't yell at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► music yeah well i think i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► that's inevitable because I because i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► like to talk i like to hear the sound of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► my own voice yes i like to open up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► newspaper and read the smart thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► I said to someone accurately transcribed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► with the correct punctuation but also i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► think the world the world has a a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► people who have arrived on the scene and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► said I am a maker of opinions and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► is only appealing so far because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► because it begs the question every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► why do I give a about your opinion i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► have an opinion to everybody's got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► and what the world doesn't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► is people who have made enough stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► that you can have a sense of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► they're coming from that they that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► are a maker of things so when they when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► they venture an opinion about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► else you have some context to to judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► whether or not you consider that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► and authority you know for for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► internet uh the the people whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► opinions I value about about pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► any topic are people who have done any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► work of any kind in in their own venue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► so it like I you want when i used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► write film reviews for the stranger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► which is the alternative newspaper up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► here in Seattle before i got my column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► for the weekly which is the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► alternative newspaper in Seattle but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► stranger would send me to review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► documentary films and they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► because I knew nothing about documentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► films but they liked that I had a that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► and from being an artist so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► watch this documentary films and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► wouldn't have any of those oh I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► have the language of a film critic i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► wouldn't be able to and I wouldn't sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► there and say oh this film is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► copy of this other french film that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► happened 25 years ago and has in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► negates the need for this film you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► I had none of that I would watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► film and i would judge it on my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► tastes and on the merits of what I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► and so I when I look out at the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► you know when i see you comment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► something or when I see a man comment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► something when I see paul f tompkins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► comment on something or Hodgman friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► or anything any of the people that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► know who started creating started making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► art at some point or another in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► lives and had success had six had had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► success either early or late based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► the merits of the thing that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► like compelled to make all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► their opinion is like gold to me on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► topic you know I would listen to Amy man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► well maybe not climate change but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► would listen to me man talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► whole lot about things that are real job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► but i would but that's right now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► want to hear her talk about a hoax like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► climate change but i wanna hear talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► about kind of whatever on her mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► because her showing interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► independent for a really long time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► she's and she's someone who and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► I know the kind of folks are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► about the kind of folks you and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► follow on twitter or have conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► with and its your right i mean it's its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► people its i totally agree with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► this is the theme is a lot of my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► seem to share our lease say they share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► which is that personally a lot of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► friends are liars I mean yes yes I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► I wouldn't have it any other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► otherwise you know i don't think i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► tolerate it but the i think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► people I know and admire would say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► it's not even that I don't even have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► like what you do and some level I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► not even need to totally understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► the country has always said I i'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► interested in talking to anybody about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► what they do especially if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► really good at it and to hear them speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► in some specificity about things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► contrast distinctions quality difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► and and these are the kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► that you know and ice is extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► productive thing to say but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► lot of stuff on the internet there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► they might even give you a thumbs down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► there's not really it was not a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► amount of nuance you run into this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► the time on Twitter was with some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► funny Holocaust related material and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► think I think the thing that yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► how it got some of the worst like ghetto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► but the point being like you don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► is somebody like you like part of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► makes makes you so amusing to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► who think you're amusing is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► really is something very very wry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► it that is not going to travel well in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► in a reetou to somebody who for whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► English is not my first language so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► might be passed around more like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► don't know what you think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► because you strike me as somebody with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► lot of curiosity about gosh just so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► things that people do that are not indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► rock and Twitter and you think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► thread there i mean is that seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► that these are people who are interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► in in real things and saying real things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► more than simply mining what seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► something other people would expect from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► well it's hot it's hard on the listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► if I mean a lot of the things that i say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► this podcast for instance i'm sure burns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► a lot of people's ears because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► not used to hearing people talk in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► tone of voice even that is contentious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► developing into a fight you know and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► and I can sit and talk for six hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► 22 somebody sitting at the table next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► us it would sound like we were having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► argument the entire time it's the Larry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► David problem everything out about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► wall mounts sounds like it's some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► of can you know we're making some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► contention and the other person you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► this to me all the time you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► no no and then you agree with me i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► know i know but it is you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► it's perceived and I this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► but I think loudmouths like us i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► when in certain contexts it can come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► as yes a judgment but a judgment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► really demands a response and and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► to make a slight bridge to to a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► and broader point here which is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► and getting to your your stuff you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► done your record you're working on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► changes in your life but i wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► expectation of a certain kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► familiarity where it could be vanilla or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► it could be french vanilla or vanilla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► with strawberries but like it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► needs to be that one flavor and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► you're expecting it's almost like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► hand somebody they think they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► an iced tea but you have a dr pepper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► the palate is is not really ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► that and it's I don't think anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► wrong with them is nothing wrong with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► it's just that that's not the way that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► lot of people talk to each other and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► thread i'm trying to find there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► of this is it seems like it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► today it feels like there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► advantage to fostering familiarity right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► and that goes right back to putting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► animals records because you know we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► yeah give it up but it's also the Balkan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► izing of the Balkan izing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► repackaging and fetishizing of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► small cultures that I answer the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► entertainment does to us now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► there there's very little there's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► little in the way of music or or film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► that or a No in a lot of ways or novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► writing that is genuinely challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► we're all pretty we're all pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► we're all pretty self-aware now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► we're all pretty cynical and so what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► want is for to talk about Star Wars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► what we wanted somebody to write a fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► the feel-good movie of the summer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► nobody wants I mean there is no modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► Oscar Wilde because who could you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► and a social critic and a you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► you still can cherry cherry a controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► in but also a contrarian in realms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► were truly dangerous you know that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► ultimately in some that was put on trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► for and convicted and imprisoned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► none of those those steaks don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► exist in the same way so somebody can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► a a social critic and a polymath and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► ball move on and man either you like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► I'm gonna go listen to the polymath that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► I think is funny and and so with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► you lose the the Frisian of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► being captivated by somebody that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► don't like or captivated by somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► whose opinion gets under your skin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► so and that has an effect on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► creator's right so a lot of a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► people on Twitter that I respect top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► there if they work so hard for a thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► you know everybody on the internet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► just trying to get a thumbs up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► frankly I don't give a about a thumbs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► and that's a and and what happens then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► is that you you risk not having 250,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► Twitter followers because a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► people are like I give that up thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► goodbye and it's over your relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► with them is over they're never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► come back they they read one thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► wrote about some inconsequential thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► they misinterpreted it in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► place because they don't know you they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► don't know your context and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► sudden you just well you know you're off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► their list and so there is no room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► sir I take umbrage at what you've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► but I admire the language you used so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► but it's you all it's already like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► the clash if the clash started today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► they wouldn't be successful in in less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► just drummer follow you back because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► because now I mean add one gathering for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► what you're saying in part is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► know de kaash even five years ago this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► was different but it's funny how today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► partly from market forces partly from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► social media partly from all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► sort of submarkets you discuss the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► consumer us consumer of of toots or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► consumer of you know downloads or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► consumer anything in some ways don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► think that the consumer sets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► expectation in a way that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► fundamentally different than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► producers have historically been used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► oh absolutely you could not think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► almost as good or bad or like you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► oh I can have that no but you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► I'm saying I mean there's a time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► part of what made punk rock so bracing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► for people setting aside the economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► conditions in England stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► part of it was that confident the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► confrontational part of that part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► what made contains to make like Marcel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► Duchamp is is still mind-boggling to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► like I forget about more about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► soldiers and look at stuff in special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► read about his stuff and I mean gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► maybe even more than Picasso he was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► was doing something i'm not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► about the urinal I'm just talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► everything he did was just a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► he did and he wasn't worried about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► he was he was really but I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► would be hard not to have seen almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► everything in the dots and all that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► really hard to see everything they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► is being somewhat confrontational by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► design and I think that kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► could talk about new wave movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► whatever these are things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► meant to challenge your expectations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► the medium and to make you rethink I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► a pretty deep level how you see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► process this stuff you know this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► last thing I wild passion while such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► great character there is some an essay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► he wrote on time called the soul of man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► under socialism was it that the artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► creative but there's one where he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► about how after the impression is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► never see water the same way again and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► once you've really seen a giant is Monet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► at you know at MoMA or something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► don't water looks like an impressionist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► painting now any part of the role side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► of Babel but the part of the role of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► art has always been to help you reshape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► the way that you see things and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► not going to fundamentally have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► impact with people if you're mainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► trying to iterate on something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► you won't be too jarring to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► that's to accept that you'll never see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► water the same way again after you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► seen the impressionist but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► only one time in history where one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► minute there were no Impressionists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► and then there were right and and Oscar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► was was there for that now we are we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► taking to see impressionist paintings in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► museums when we were five years old on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► kindergarten tours and so for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► personally in a lot of ways there never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► was a time that we did that we saw water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► Impressionists and the impressionistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► painting of water ultimately are now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► see them as as the you know kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► close-up as a used as a backdrop for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► coca-cola ad or whatever and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► impact of those things and the amazement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► that that's absolutely still possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► but it requires more work you don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► you don't just get introduced to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► sit there and have your mind blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► anymore you have to have to stare at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► and go back to a place where your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► is capable of being blown in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► have it be blown again because you're i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► can just you know can can see this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► I I'll just beginning to shop i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► with a good friend of mine the musician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► John Wesley Harding who is also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► novelist Wesley Stace he took me to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► philadelphia museum of our collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► tea shop stuff earlier this year and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► spent it took me a half an hour just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► being in the presence of the work to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► reset my brain so that i could even look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► at it without without just seeing it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► all the things that were derived from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► meant without seeing it as as just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► bunch of construction paper or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► somebody like trying out some ideas I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► mean I had to sit with it and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► frankly yeah that's definitely true love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► of paintings and I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► true of poetry with it out and my twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► century painting teacher best class I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► took in college really got got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► through me when she put these slides up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► frankenthaler color field thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► looking at is really faded on this old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► slide but if you when you see one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► these important like when you see your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► first then go and you see the impasto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► and you see there's like almost half an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► inch of paint at some points you get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► my gosh this guy really this guy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► really had a lot going on this is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► than just a blue and yellow thing of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► field like this is this is you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► really see this guy's soul when these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► little pointy bits of paint and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► poetry like hearing Richard Hugo you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► know three degrees of grain phillipsburg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► is really different than scanning it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► tumblr page it's very very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► well but so now extend that extend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► to a to some indie rock music that took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► three years to write and record and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► know imagine how many people are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► rip it into their itunes and give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► even 1000 that much attention you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► clear mind put it on not be listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► a water surfing the internet not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► conditions at the jump in here i was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► your house is the area where your mom's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► house I remember sitting in the dining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► room and you're like okay like I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► I'm gonna let you listen to this I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► gonna let you listen to these are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► are that I I think someone was one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► on his departure and teaspoon what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► era was a teaspoon that would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► too early 2006 case we sit down you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► got like a CD or something and we sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► down and every single time you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► very generous letting me as I've you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► send me stuff that's not out that i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► and like you would get so pissed that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► literally just listen to the music now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► yes absolutely and I've done with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► I've really gotta listen to this you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► turn off the TV like doing anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► all I can hear is a little bit from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► leads me to believe from the headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► and you breathing very very loudly one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► don't know if you know you do that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► very loudly but and you sit there and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► hundred percent of your attention goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► to that and I'm just thinking when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► you're committing something like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► commander thinks aloud to to tape to too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► hard drive like you must you really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► thinking I have to guess about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► version of you sitting there with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► headphones on breathing heavily and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► really focusing a hundred percent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► that'sthat's what you make though you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► not making like you're not making stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► for somebody to listen to once on a jog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► and a shuffle you're trying to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► some projecting here but actually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► that's a big part of what you do when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► I'm sitting in the studio I'm absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► making the music for the person that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► either sitting in a dark room with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► headphones on listening to with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► eyes closed or driving in a car with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► stereo on super loud driving through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► some vineyards in Northern California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and those are the character wonder it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► takes you so long to put out a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► high collide good for the finger people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► but as a and that's right my people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► as a as a writer the feedback I get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► people is oh my god I for the last three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► stairmaster my itunes brings up one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► your tunes and so I started thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► you guys is like my Stairmaster band and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► that is so awesome now i love you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► that such a giant compliment though John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► it's a massive compliment i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► don't take it as a I don't take it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► wrong way at all but but it's so it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► it's not how my life I not how I consume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► things that i love or meter media back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► on that I have to just let that be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► can't I can't I because i cannot find an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► entry point for myself into that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► my mind wasn't my was always interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► was your Stairmaster band will that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► they first put out that bright lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► that was and I was exercising for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► very short window of time is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► interval you know I open for those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► yeah that's really not that surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► to me this is what it was a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► ago they were young they might be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► nice guys now they were total dicks they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► were they seriously were like had their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► manager come and say that bowl of corn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► chips is Interpol's bowl of corn chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► so can you guys stop eating those corn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► too well they changed a lot i used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► like a lot better when they're called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► joy division that was staying with Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► Hook and it's played out but um I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► trying to I'm trying to find the thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► and the opportunity to jump and jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► around a little bit in mind let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► jump but don't find a thread just leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► into the world I'm trying John I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► you find me scattered I know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► people find scattered and and I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► always get this opportunity with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► we've talked before about how we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► that's my that's my little bell and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► keep on my desk so that when I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► reset i go and then it's alright yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► you know really not having this one if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► really need a recess totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► ads but i have no I have no context for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► wrapping my head around any of your bell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► related activity this sounds completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► titre oh that sounded like could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► please check me into this small motel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► that's right that's right how many does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► he have on your desk rodder uh on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► desk right now i just have those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► bells but around the house i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► nope no no that's just hasn't been on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► glass it's a pencil on an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► hulk glass good job next question let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► gosh so much I want to talk to you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► we we talked up a lot we gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► this from my dog the dark my dear for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► podcast we still got to do this roderick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► online it's just you me talking on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► phone once a week we put it out we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► to do this are we doing that right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► well this is a year on that you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► podcast that idea right now and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► is not precisely that we're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► a different podcast where we do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► eventually everyone will have several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► podcasts I think eventually I'm excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► about i did a podcast the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► did you make an RSS was somebody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► part i did make an RSS can ask his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► partner on i did an online haha i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► yeah a lot of God listening I i like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► like doing on lines it was a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► called the air-raid young guy in Iraq I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► up here in Seattle asked me to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► his podcast and takes a long time he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► it set up in such a way that every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► you move your chair the microphone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► vibrate for like 30 seconds a shock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► mount and a shocking on anything we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► a shock mounting and then he Mount heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► so the mic is on a shock mount and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► he mounted the shock mount to the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► that we were both sitting at so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► if you if you took if you hit the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► with your hand it it just it vibrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► through the whole system i was like did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► you think about mounting that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► something else i am a senior picture my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► podcaster shockmount it's on one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► those little like a little crappy ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► you would you like to make a kick drum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► mic with a really heavy bass with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► little short and hit your table right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► now with your hand okay okay so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► hear the tale but I think you putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► them through the mic at all okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► then the thing is here's the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► tricking ok so this is as i've posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► before this is sitting on top to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► page count here it's sitting on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► the giant-size x-men a book it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► chance on a two-and-a-half-inch book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► from the classic period of of the x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► and I think that happen during to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► audience right now i'm not i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► read the whole thing but it it sets i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► um yeah I have my speakers my monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► speakers in my studio sitting on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► both of them are on top of stacks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► beetles books books about the Beatles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► that is I can't get enough for this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► right on top how did you know that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► on topic I now as you know that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► mhm on the other let me guess there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► post-it note above your desk that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► written on in sharpie on topic ! ! i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► have incredibly chaotic drawings by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► knock over my over my desk I just keep I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► stare at them and hope you'll get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► someday I wanna be better that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► business about you know about kids being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► natural artists and and the art the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► artistic impulses beat out of them by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► our by our patreon patriarchal society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► left the kids are terrible artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► yes and making art is hard work and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► if you're listening to this and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► a kid who um i would describe would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► discourage them not an obvious way not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► mean way but in a very subtle way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► yeah i would just go don't discourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► them because you want better for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► discourage them so that they get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► the way of actual artists who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► you're saying it's a single signal noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► yeah I this there's a noise I make a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► of my daughter seems like a little you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► know it's funny our kid goes to a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► that's very cool preschool little co-op [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► we with you and she is run by Jewish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► people know it's not and it's also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► run by hippies and it's not run by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► cultus which is different from almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► every preschool up into like most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► preschools they want you like read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► book was very interesting you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► the children would have been the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► swing we let them talk about it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► we write their names on a list and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► this place is very sensible but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► it's funny when you guys in there my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► work day and I saw this thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► wall and like so many great things in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► life first I was angry and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► thought it was awesome and it was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► big thing and admittedly a little hippie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► and it's like something how to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► your kids about their thing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► drawing their art or whatever and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► first i was like all like because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► so antithetical to how I've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► cuz i'm i'm totally that oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► that's awesome that's great oh my gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► is that looks just as a face it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► like is that Mommy or whatever it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► used to do that and no no no we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► yeah oh right so here's the thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► don't know if you we will find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► useful with your youngster but I I what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► it said was instead but don't take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► minute first of all take a minute and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► look at it and and do not jump right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► into making a remark about what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► cortical is let alone making a value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► judgment but let you say that wow that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► really cool you made a bunch of red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► lines there and they're not encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► them to talk at first I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► really happy and dumb but I've decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► that that's actually a good idea because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► because sometimes kids just scribbling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► no it's a good so I think it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► incredible idea i mean III actually try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► really hard and this is a weird thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► say but I try really hard not to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► good good hair about that i'm terry i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► that all the time because you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► to do she needed you know I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► understand there's a thousand people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► composing angry emails to you saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► need to say good to your kid but but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► think the i think actually John the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► conventional wisdom is increasingly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► yeah and you know but you can go too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► as I reckon you're just encourage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► effort obviously encourage the effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► yeah and there's so many ways that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► my kid knows that I approve of her that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► you know to have to do and it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► it's just a reflexive action like good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► good god you don't worry about I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► about raising a kid that just worries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► about trying to please me as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► am incredibly self-involved I worry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► when i do that it's like me so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► going to crush her artistic ambitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► like she's gonna do whatever she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► but I do worry about her thinking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► only yardstick for that is like whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► other people thought was good right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► right well yeah exactly i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► appreciate most about my parents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► particularly my mother was that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► when i was working on something like art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► something artistically you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► would back out of the room and close the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► um there wasn't she didn't sit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► well what is that is that a tree I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► she didn't do any of that and when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► done she put it up on the refrigerator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► but it but they're there wasn't a she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► she recognized that that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► necessarily another opportunity for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► parent-child interaction becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► actually it was your thing that was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► i was doing and I was fine you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► this is a new segment I call bizarro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► Marcia Roderick theater are you ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► yeah jon jon is that about a Space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► challenger or the I get mixed up is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► does the Challenger right what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► commander thinks aloud is it's more i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► actually had to google this because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► wasn't even sure which is which but your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► that was what about the without about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► the Columbia the Challenger would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► say um the you can see if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► comfortable talking about it i'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► about you see now first of all you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► listening to John Roderick who I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► never admit is my favorite song right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► owners today because he's a dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► yeah you don't want to tell me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► nobody like can I come stay with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► examine cisco for free for several weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► Maryland oh my god is that so hard and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► would love it if your mom would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► care of our stupid daughter and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► come and hang out with me again i miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► the moment that's what we should do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► should put both of our daughters in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► little box is it in my mom's living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► not a me knocks on iceboxx miss my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► has nice boxes and mom so practical i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► love your mom she said she says straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► and even talked about before when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► talks about how much he loves your kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► she's very very you know buried we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► a visit when i accidentally called her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► number instead of yours and she was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► she seems really happy but she's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► really like yep she's still her she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► mmm yeah she has a room in the basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► for where she keeps the good boxes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► friends kids in trouble with my wife for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► keeping what I call quote-unquote good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► boxes you brought out that's a good box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► you doing that's a perfectly good bog it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► down would we be going to personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► talk a little bit about these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► I don't know so it is that the song was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► about the coladas space shuttle Columbia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► which is one of two space shuttles that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► Challenger but the columbia is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► whereas the Challenger is the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► disintegrated shortly after launch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► and uh so yeah I've had very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► interesting your relationship to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► song just recently I mean I it was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► of those songs you get lucky sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► that you write a song that has the has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► the capacity to make you cry multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► times as you're performing it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► and and I know that the all songwriters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► coming there's one or two songs in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► repertoire that if they really dig into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► it while they're performing it they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► they can get it can make them very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► emotional like it does the crowd but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► is for people who have not been with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► since the very beginning people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► encounter it's it's a lot of people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► favorite long winter Sun yeah and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► understand that I it's a it's somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► atypical of a long winter song and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► it doesn't have any guitars on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► it's a have literally three quarts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► inside the same looks like a 10 point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► forward 15 for the whole step 46 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► long but uh and and it's a typical of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► song in that it's about a real event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► what about a specific like a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► real-world thing it seems that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► your wheelhouse not normally but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► was this was a song I you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► normally what I do is I i use metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► to take us take small personal events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► and turn them into bigger things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► can use to talk about talk about real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► feelings you know and and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► metaphor is so good at you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► say well that that that girl stepped on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► my toe and if I wrote a song was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► it would it would be a jack black song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► first of all but it would be not a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► interesting song for the long haul but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► so you see utilize metaphor and you turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► your you know you turn the girl into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► Hungarians and you turn your toe into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► the the great you know the but not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► the great steppes of Central Europe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► all of a sudden you're writing a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► that sounds very big and and it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► from a place that's very small the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► Columbia was an event that was actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► and big and you couldn't metaphor eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► it you know though there was nothing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► could you couldn't you couldn't use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► metaphor because any metaphor you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► use would be smaller than the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► thing and as I was writing a song i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► realized that you could that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► Columbia was an actual event that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► could you could both talk about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► really small discreet discreet little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► scenes and it also it functioned as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► kind of reverse metaphor like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► what happened to them on that spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► and how that special crash affected us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► all it it in little ways was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► relationship breaking up or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► know like one person's life kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► seen from beginning to end so it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► was it was sort of a reverse of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► what normal songwriting would look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► yeah and the absolutely and that chorus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► whatever those letters five or six words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► of the chorus but what else is there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► a one-line something like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► words in the corner just goes yeah what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► do you want me also when I thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► called Dakota like we have the coda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► right I'm sorry and music guy like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► like you know anything about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► um but the part the part that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► gets me is the something like can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► something like that which is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► just so like this whatever i'm going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► chris farley better if it works on a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► of levels and also just that whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► of this time when when America was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► full of hope because of that possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► of actually going from a john kennedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► speech to being on the moon in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► unbelievably small amount of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► all the like weird things on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► timeline that they were able to hit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► make that happen and then bring people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► it's online i don't want to over analyze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► but it works on so many levels as a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► tragedy about so many things and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► know not least of which is like gosh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► can go and do this most amazing thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► the world but like you're still you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► be so close and then it just was part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► yeah well I because I and i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► it it it's rooted in the argument that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► people use to justify space travel which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► is that human beings are natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► explorers and if we are exploring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► and reaching out into into whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► next realm is then we're not fulfilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► our our destiny and and the reverse of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► that is that it is encoded in us all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► to recognize and empathize with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► who has left the village and is and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► been out you know to the oregon coast or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► has been has walked two across Africa or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► you know have fat found Stanley in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► jungle or whatever we can we can relate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► to that person and the idea that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► the train in their hometown and fall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► get run over by the train while their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► wife and kids were standing there after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► having been gone after having you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► who traveled with Lewis and Clark is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► a kind of tragedy that certainly has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► happened a million times in in human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► history and it's a it's something we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► feel very personally about you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► so you would think that writing a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► about astronauts would be hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► people to to identify with but in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► what they were doing was was incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► small-scale way applies to each of us at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► week every time we leave the house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► go to work and make it home and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► what art is its metaphor it sound what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► metaphysical distance I guess somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► wrote a song that was like I'm so sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► that the shuttle crashed like that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► not only have so much longevity but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► fact that you have struck down a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► bit but it's funny because it's like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► many of your songs i don't think you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► had to educate me on what they're about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► sometimes just listening to them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► couple times but it's always really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► interesting to me because you're and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► think one of the reasons you come across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► some interesting a lot of people is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► you are you do fake it pretty well as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► polymath and but you are like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► who is that incredible chemistry c can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► I you also are clearly a match the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► student of history but you seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► you're always kind of you you're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► knowledgeable about history that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► your major that was like your we know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► your English literature was comparative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► history of ideas all that is those that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► free program meetup right yeah so it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► the word history in it but it it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► history is is just a component of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► yeah but I'm an amateur historian sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► yeah and anna and i enjoyed I and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► like history is and isn't it a shame now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► how I a slight side route it's just such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► a shame that I feel really jipped about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► how I learn history and I guess this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► kind of a cliché or whatever but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► there's a couple topics now that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► really super interested in that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► embarrassed how poorly I absorbed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► I have to at least partly blame it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► the way that it was taught and into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► example to jump to mind are mathematics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► yeah which I think at least in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► that I learned it I mean I'm not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► sharpest knife in the drawer but like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► both cases it's amazing that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► take something as interesting as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► European history and turn it into things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► like you know memorizing what date the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► treaty of versailles was without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► understanding like what that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► meant truly any history what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► what the treaty of versailles meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► looking backwards and especially looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► interesting topics the right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► absolutely retrospect I just remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► like what I think they would they signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► on train or something like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► remember I don't know didn't pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► end of the Civil War II have one Hitler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► had no actually they did sign on a train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► car and then Hitler used that same train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► bar 21 France capitulated to him and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► can skate he really was he talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► mhm oh yeah now we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► Hitler and I'm gonna get any letters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Israel happens every time I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► i think that's true of everybody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► know I I didn't learn history in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► school and and high school actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► deprived me of what had up to then been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► a lifetime love mathematics you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► started ninth-grade thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► thinking and having been kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► reinforced in the belief that i was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► math whiz and by the end of tenth grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► I I wanted absolutely nothing to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► math and and history and civics and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► mean really what's more interesting than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► physics physics taught by by a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► teacher is it should this whole reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► for school and physics thought by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► terrible teacher is limping waterboarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► so I mean you know we could talk all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► the rest of our lives about education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► by the fifties textbooks that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► still being used in the seventies when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► we were going to elementary school and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► don't think it's any better now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► haha i kinda doubt it i mean in stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► but you know it i've got this is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► but I've heard it said that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► reason anybody really really dies is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► because of a lack of oxygen like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► way that you whether you got stay out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► waterboarding no no could be but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► way that you that is the cause of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► death it's the real reason that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► eventually die is because of a lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► oxygen that's ultimately the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► really eventually kills you supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► but that's the you know the actual cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► of death of every investor but and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► the same way i've heard that really yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► I've heard some people say that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► everything is physics that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► really get down to it almost everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► goes on is some kind of an abstraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► of physics which i think is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► interesting idea and that was obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► physics itself combines you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► different disciplines but I i see now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► mean I'm like the armchair engineer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► don't know a thing about physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► I never have physics and geometry was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► senior i mean you could meet a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► lamentable math idiot than me but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► like whatever it says stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► fractals and you know set theory and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► this stuff is I have no idea what any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► it means but I can tell if I hatch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► basic but basic skills that like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► that bums me out I think you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► classes online if you like you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► online and holding a Phoenix University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► type situation well actually I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► there are classes by eminent Yale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► professors that have been uploaded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► the interweb and you can just watch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► and you that iTunes University is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► actually pretty great there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► bunch of good stuff in there free stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► let's get stuff from Stanford and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► like that they i took a physics class in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► college that was taught by one of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► physicists from hanford which is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► you know the big nuclear reservation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► where they made the atom bomb here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► Wow and this guy you know he was a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► he was a refinement type of character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► physicist who had who had been boots on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► the ground hands up to his elbows in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► practical physics for his whole career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► and now was teaching at the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► just because he loved it and he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► run around that class and climb up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► tables and and it was one of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► classes I ever took and it had instilled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► in me a lifelong love of physics which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► in high school I got an F in physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► because my high school physics teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► was some ding dong that that didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► any physics herself she was just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► know she would I think read the book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► her way to school in the morning and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► like she needed the teachers edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► yeah well she's teaching out of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► know and and doing these kind of dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► these dumb it like okay here's a slinky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► now we're going to hit one into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► slinky and you're gonna see the wave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► I've used a slinky let's get on with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► no but but I took a college physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► class that was the greatest thing I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► did I was terrified going and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► this is gonna be awful and this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► walks in and and from the first second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► heat picked up a piece of chalk I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► like oh it matters who your teacher haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► right so that brings us to the topic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► homeschooling well well well well which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► i have to sue want to hide i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► assume you're a major proponent of and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► am too and I suggest we start us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► charter school miller i would love to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► taught at a charter school i'm ready i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► would you teach and a charter school I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► don't know what I would teach at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► misquoting misquoting literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► what about productivity as i'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► hell of a charter you know I 2222 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► somewhat related things first i'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► you know which one was it now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► getting confused my on my chemistry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► teacher in high school every day she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► oh really yeah yeah I mean she's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► news that night because this is a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► after I graduated I was living at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► mom's house just eating a half mile away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► and like she was out on the lawn at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► school with everybody else watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► because you know she was a big deal is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► big deal she was a finalist for this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► taciturn woman very you know quiet kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► to herself sort of person and she yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► she was there and just watched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► imagine that imagine like talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► ultimate like that that could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► well other one is a metal just before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► but this i don't know this seems to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► something about something when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► college you know what does screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► liberal arts school and did mostly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► you know literature short story poems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► novels whatever all that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► nonsense reread the ambassador's or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► whatever but i'm on a whim i took a with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► these call physics for poets called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► nature of modern physics was talking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► physics teacher but basically you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► off Baker you read you know Einstein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► Yuri keep i read Gary Zhukov from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► dancing Willie masters and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► nonsense but but the thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► interesting about this is is I've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► this in other places before but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► something to this i think the teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► was from I think hungry is really seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► like a weird guy to me and you get good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► teacher but you know what's funny is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► second or third promised me my second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► you're stuck in here and you know like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► lot of people I really thought I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► great writer you know I was the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► editor in high school so obviously i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► must universally yeah you don't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► position like that without being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► outstanding writer for top-shelf yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► funny though I would when I I turned in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► my first paper and it was the most well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► i gotta say my I had one vonnegut paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► my first year where Mac Miller said down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► there forget he said that this part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► isn't this Park curiously like whipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► a dead mule with misplaced rhetoric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► will always stick with me but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► physics teacher he toured a party tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► my paper isn't a scene from back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► school starting Roger Rodney Dangerfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► Kirby hires kurt vonnegut yes exactly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► have told you that story wasn't gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► get story but Peter Peter Kay sacks i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► think his name was torn apart be torn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► apart and he said you know there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► kinds of problems with this there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► grammatical problems there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► structure most of those things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► structure and the actual you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► building a case the right the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► writing he said it wasn't good and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► suggested of all things he suggested I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► go to this staff member who was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► writing instructor like she wasn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► was so ridiculous that she wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► treated more seriously but you gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► see general wheeler you're gonna go see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► her and you're gonna you should go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► get some help with your writing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► was I was speechless I was like you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► don't you know like who i am like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► but you know what's funny i john is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► the service of saying I land and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► ended up taking that as a class i got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► credit you know for taking out of class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► and sheep she just really with me into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► did make a great rider but maybe less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► crappy writer but it's interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► that I don't know if it was I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► was probably the severus lashing i ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► got from my writing in college and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► came from a physics teacher maybe other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► ones are just being too nice for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► something but like it wasn't my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► about Raymond Carver that wasn't my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► stuff about Robert Lowell it was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► stuff about you know I quantum theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► right and I don't know is that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► really struggling i think there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► actually a great quote wanna get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► somewhere I'd said that if you wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► University don't go to the English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4738">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► department you know right science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► department that's not that I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► that then that helped me so much and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► you know I still she made me read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► structure of white which I hadn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► since high school but she also made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► read this great book called Williams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► answers wins or book called on writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► well yeah I have it right here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► educational stuff like all the stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► thought it was gonna learn in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► classes I took was weird how all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► stuff snuck in in places and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► expected I took the 20th century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► painting on a lark and end up being my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► favorite thing one of the most memorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► to me you know i don't know how much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► didn't think it was that interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► what every single class in twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► century painting I was just rapt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► well I don't understand why why our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► entire education from kindergarten to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► graduate school isn't treated that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► way because that's absolutely true of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► everything I learned that I carry with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► none of it was on somebody syllabus or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► or was on the college prep course work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► or whatever all of it was was found by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► accident and all of it was I mean during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► those classes where I was secretly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► reading a book propped in but it within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► the pages of the textbook that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► holding up so the teacher thought i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► studying when you're actually looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► magazines the the Mad Magazine i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► reading within the within my English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► book is the stuff that that made me who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► I am it's it's the it's the education I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► ended up getting and you know my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► again just to go back to my mom I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► telling telling this story last night to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► somebody but uh when I was in 1976 I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► eight years old and I had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► questions it was the vietnam war had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► just ended and I was I was aware of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► and nixon had been impeached within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► a couple of years before and I was aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► of that people you know in 1976 God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► people still talk about Nixon Ford was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► the president but Carter was running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► president when I was aware of all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► things and i had a lot of questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► my mom got me a subscription to Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► magazine when it was getting back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► Time magazine was a great a great weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► news magazine I mean it was a middlebrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► magazine always but but it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► ten-year-old could get a lot out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► perfect for an eight-year-old right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► subscription of this magazine what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► said was you don't have to read every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► article if you start to read an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► and it doesn't interest you don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► it move on to the next article just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► there's a lot you know the that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► year i got time magazine I didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► most of the stuff i just i would flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► through and look at the pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► read the captions and there was nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► there reading it over my shoulder there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► was nobody there trying to read it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► there was nobody there trying to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► I just SAT and looked at the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► and read the captions and then pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► soon I started reading you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► feature articles that interested me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► and if I if there were cool pictures i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► would start reading the article 22 put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► them together by the time I was in sixth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► grade I was reading time magazine every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► week and I that had more of enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► had that gave me more of an education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► and it was almost entirely a process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► self-selection that uh that probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► from the outside looked like I was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► given no guidance and frankly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► seventies there were things in Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► magazine that were too sophisticated for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► me there were there were things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► read and that shocked me because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► being introduced to ideas that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► you know that my mom had a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► and there was one I just want to say 76 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► 77 78 had an excerpt from that Howard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► Hughes biography the tell-all biography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► uh-huh that's where I learned he saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► his urine and it's still one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► mmm III but you could graze right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► was the point is it was nobody in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► going to write a report on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► Zimbabwe or something and you pull out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► the world book encyclopedia and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► you know writing your five paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► essay that grazing I I mean it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► as much as we serve we surf the web all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► day but how much do we decide to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► settle on this one thing for a while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► don't know what I mean well and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► Time magazine did not allow me to pursue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► presented they presented a dozen threads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► and I chose the ones that interested me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► but I i also had to wade through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► these ones that didn't and surfing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► web is a very different process I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► I I'll do it as i'm sure you do waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► four hours on wikipedia just looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► through clicking through clicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► through but always pursuing the thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► that is that is that but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► closest to the bullseye of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► interests and never never or very seldom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► do i find myself on a page where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► magazines when your dentist's office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► where like there's nothing else here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► read so i'm going to read this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► that I don't want to read and you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► in you and and you're into something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► now you now you know something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► wouldn't have known otherwise on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► internet I find it's mostly like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► then I then then I found out where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► went to college and then i looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► college and then i looked at the dorms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► in the college and then i looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► admission process like why am I looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► at the admission process for Yale right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► now like I'm following my own interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► but my interests have led me up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► smaller and smaller tributary and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► learning stuff now I'm I'm following my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► own interest to something with its not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► producing any food for me so she like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► broad but shallow broad but shallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► particularly when you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► the education of someone from the age of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► five to fifteen broad but shallow is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► what they is what they need and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► why that's why those history classes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► talk about are so useless that the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► learning the dates of the French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► Revolution mean I've studied the French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► Revolution up and down and I can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► you any of the goddamn dates 1789 that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► the only date you need to know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► and and when i studied the french [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► revolution in high school and in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► I probably had to memorize 10 dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► around those events which is a do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5155">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► is a degree of specificity that that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► Revolution probably wouldn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► and what you lose with what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► losing all that though is the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► behind the story how did the front where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► the French Revolution come from where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► did it go to who is the story and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► the only story that matters and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► certainly until you have embarked on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► PhD program it's the only story anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► should ever try and tell what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► word of the American Revolution come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► from and where does it lead to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► where did what where did the nation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► Germany come from and where is it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► you know these are like topics that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► you are history teacher if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► history student this should be when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► do you should be sitting indian-style on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► the floor and talking about this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► like its storytelling and i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► think i think the the six to eight hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► that kids spend in school of theirs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► four to six hours of keeping them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► oh it's like I mean they get to such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► cliché but it's true they're learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► it's it's really it's something like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► socialization institute in a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► and I mean and that if I had a charter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► school that's what it would be too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► you'd be getting socialized in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► different way with ac/dc you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► getting socialized to respect and fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► John Roderick first and foremost sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► and I think more people need to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► we're gonna learn eventually and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► can save themselves a lot of frustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► a lot of hurt but going up against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► big man let's be honest or 451 some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► 51-percent of the audience knowing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► the sexual chemistry even in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► young age is going to help guide their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► that's right you know I get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► light I get a lot of flack for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► dick about the morass you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► believe it's roderick I mean like I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► really frustrated with the whole like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► I've gotta follow the headlines I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► information that's been packaged in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► these little morsels but you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► funny is like when I have this argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► people i eventually end up falling back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► it's not a strategy fall every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► sometimes description but I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► could learn more from picking up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► economist and reading there whatever 225 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► platform feeling about Formula three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► in review in integration that is a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► is one of the best things in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► periodicals the that's that first five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► pages of The Economist man it's a nice i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► think it's a nice productive but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► kind of a middle ground and what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► talking about here which is that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► I mean let's be honest you pick up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► paper any paper there are times you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► to look at the new york times after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► twentieth of the month whatever you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► at that and there's just so much stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► that's been you know shoot up for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► news pipe right and but if you pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► that that economist thing it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► give you the high level on there and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► lot of ways but it's it's gonna be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► countries you don't know about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► going to be about topics he don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5338">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► understand and I don't mean to sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► like you know eat your beets or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► like that but if you if you really if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► is that important to you to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► up-to-date and your version of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► we're good for damn sure take 20 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► and read that every week and now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► going to be like a grown-up you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► be legitimately up-to-date on what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► happening in the world frankly I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► I dont still care about it but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► don't it doesn't have an impact on me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► an actionable way like it does a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► people pretend it does you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► following like you know celebrity deaths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► and who's mad about politics this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► if you really did that really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► matter to you then like why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► like to take the time to do that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► high-quality whey you know and so is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► google news or something which is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► morass you have to add an extra 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► I i mean i think that's what wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► is for you open up the economist you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► read the first five pages of it in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► of your computer and every word you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► don't understand every idea that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► across your bow that that you're even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► slightly curious about just wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► the term and spend another two minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► reading a little bit deeper on the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► i mean people i mean it's it's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► common thing in the world right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► everybody's got an opinion about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► Palestine the Palestinians and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► Israelis and no one has even a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► even a a penny turned on its side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► worth of depth of understanding of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► of of the history of the situation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► i'm not saying that understanding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► history of the situation helps you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► what the solution to the problem is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► I think understanding the history of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► situation keeps that will it affect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► effectively tamps down at least my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► willingness to wade into an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► Palestinian situation because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► people are just like I'm like right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► your you don't know you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► anything and and it's not hard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► that's the problem that in America now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► knowing stuff being educated is is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► equated in the popular culture with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► a kind of elitism and elitism is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► completely equated with liberalism and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► kind of activist liberalism that wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► you to eat your beets and wants to teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► sex education to your five-year-old kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► and wants to force those kids to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► gay have the school nurses to abortions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► have the school nurses do abortions so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► so there's this cascading hatred for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► being informed that that in in one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► emotionally I absolutely understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► that the vast majority of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► America I'm so not the majority but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► fifty percent of the people in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► have felt for a long time that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► some smug university administrator at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► their local high school telling them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► that they couldn't spank their kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► anymore and they resent it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► don't have the they don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► emotional elasticity to wade into it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► and and deal with the gray area they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► just reject the whole concept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► somebody from the from the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► university should ever come to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► tell them how to do anything and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► get you get a you get a world of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► who resent the idea that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► information that they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► have that would help them clarify their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► thoughts on topics that matter to them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► and it's just it's endlessly frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► i I'm counting us all the time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► twitter I'll send something out like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► why don't you try reading a book of John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► and i'll get i'll get 15 angry tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► back from people like why don't you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► telling me how to live right it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► I'm just say I'm not telling you how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► live man seriously I'm just suggesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► that you might like a book to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► no you're not doing that you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► to take my kids from me and this also i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► think its effects and stuff we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► saying more toward the beginning but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► there's also just this i hate to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► this sound like something all the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► pushes this on whoever the media is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► there is there is first of all a focus a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► focus on conflict always because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► a story should be about conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► according to a lot of people but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► also about it's also about just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► where's conservatives and liberals or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► does this and that and yeah maybe I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► contrarian but i think that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► limiting in ways that most of us have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► never really even completely thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► about if we really think about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► limiting that is I mean here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► things happen in the world and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► well I'm just saying like maybe I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► there are some things where you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► really be no trace the provenance of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► action say well that's because a liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► want to do this thing or that's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► well that's really I just I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► that'sthat's like you're incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► narrow way to see the world instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► having enough of a critical eye to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► will know that's just the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► happened and I'm gonna have a look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► in context with other things instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► constantly trying to square this done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► your double entry accounting of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► to figure out where weather which one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► these tribes this fits into any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► our tribes are busy but it's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► maybe there's you know like it like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► like I said he's in Israel where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► don't have to you know opposing sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► have 19 you have these coalition's and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► just think in the US this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► is this could be again the narcissism of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► minor differences were always looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► for who we align ourselves with and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► think that's fine if you if you if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► makes you happy like you can pick what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► pro wrestler you're really into or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► whatever but I think it's extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► limiting and trying to see the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► clearly to instead of seeing facts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► events in and of themselves and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► really square them against the context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► for what else is happening like that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► me is like the the beauty like a liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► arts education teaches you how to wander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► around a library and then wonder how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► something might be not what it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► be I think I think that's a big part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► it i guess i just wish that there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► always this constant feeling of like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► that and culture so and cultures a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► wrestler like when you're getting mad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► her you might as well be getting mad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► the Iron Sheik she's making an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► career out of making you angry and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► why would you why would you keep feeding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► into that you know I michelle bachman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► okay i get it you don't like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► michelle bachman like how are you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► to dissuade people from the michelle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► bachman project by yelling on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► it's yeah it's a little boring rehash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► stuff but I'm just glad we're so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► well it's true John Roderick this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► long I've got this giant list of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► I want to talk to you about that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► probably have to save for our are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► imminent teacher podcast you know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► save it for the Merlin talks to John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► podcast get Roderick on the line i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► it should be called Roderick on the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► and we we should start making that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► soon because otherwise i would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► go back to work doing my own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► well we'll talk about that let's avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► conversations this one must end because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► i have to urinate and have to imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► that is how a lot of our conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► and isn't it even more you gotta catch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► flight or somebody has to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► that's right that's right it's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► you have to go to the bathroom when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► yeah I can ruin a bathroom I gotta ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► a flight you could have been that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► you've ruined that van but i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► i don't know what's going on in your in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► your basement John to guilt then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► some suggestion that I eat too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► sausage that i can document the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► I don't know how to process that sausage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► that's like autu robble robble too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► i just didn't even hear the words in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► alright alright John Roderick of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► long winters inspiration and bon vivant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► yeah 43 and I'm DWI until until you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► on the the next contribution musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► contribution to your over is ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► drop as we say in the rap business why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► would you like people to visit with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► you do they should follow you on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► at the were not at John Rocker know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► should absolutely follow me on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► twitter if they don't they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► themselves but also i mean if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► interested in if you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► any of the topics that we have covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► today i have a community that your visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► I have a good visit your local library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► or my online store where all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► quotes can be purchased on a t-shirt was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► that is where the best place to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► what you're up to you i will link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► things also that the best conduit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► long winters dot-com is a is up is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► website and that but better but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► the long winters haven't produced a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► record in several years that website has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► its not dormant exactly by that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► that I think there's still a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► board community that I think I'm i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► nobody's busy been busy now he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► update the sites like East he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► yeah yeah he is a busy man yeah but no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► I you know I think Twitter is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► first first place to look but I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► I often don't I don't tweet about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► until after they happen sometimes I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► you know basically if you want to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► good luck yeah i'm not one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► people that's like on the internet come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► look at me all the time sure you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5938">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► well get used to be you like you make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► big game but you're like strapping like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► a strap virus you just use come around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► yeah sometimes on doorknobs yeah you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► catch me on a toilet seat and catch me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► the toilet seat allowed near threat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► AJ AJ giggle homers yeah people stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► John Roderick often long winters thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► everything you like to part with to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► anything parting words to the back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► well I feel like you guys ought to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► back to work and i hope this has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► enjoyable and I'm gonna reset you down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNF-WI/5972">TS</a>]