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Ep. 74: "The Omnibus of Wilburforce"

 

00:00:00   hello John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/0">TS</a>]

00:00:07   I Merlin is going good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/7">TS</a>]

00:00:12   yeah gold finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/12">TS</a>]

00:00:20   well yeah that just sitting here being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/20">TS</a>]

00:00:25   Goldfinger sounds a little dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   in retrospect uh-huh right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/28">TS</a>]

00:00:31   how would how would a normal guy like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   get to be Goldfinger huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   there's there's no good there's no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/35">TS</a>]

00:00:38   option unless unless you think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   peanut butter is gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   I think the same way you get to Carnegie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/42">TS</a>]

00:00:43   Hall Carnegie you can't miss practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/43">TS</a>]

00:00:48   isn't a del karnegi yeah Dale Dale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   Carnegie how to win friends and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   to my hall and I pronounced that wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/54">TS</a>]

00:00:55   didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/55">TS</a>]

00:00:56   I don't know but Dale Dale Carnegie he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/56">TS</a>]

00:01:00   these disable hands you're pregnant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/60">TS</a>]

00:01:03   right are different tho those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   different kind of monkeys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06   maybe the magnet he is a magnet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   pronounce this differently magnates is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   anybody it's like putting shit I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   magnate yeah but I'd but I i I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/72">TS</a>]

00:01:16   recently I've been kind of called out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/76">TS</a>]

00:01:20   on my the pronunciation of the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   dearth because i pronounce it Darth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/82">TS</a>]

00:01:26   always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   there's a dark there's a Darth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29   available gals at this party and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/89">TS</a>]

00:01:34   we have I think we actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   program an episode of our visits call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   darth of options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   oh so we've covered this no no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   because I never gonna be honest I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   used to worry about how i pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   things and now i'm coming a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/107">TS</a>]

00:01:48   self-conscious about it if it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   obvious some of the some of the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   that you pronounce things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   spectacular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   I have to say it's one of its one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   great things about you doc clitoris you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/116">TS</a>]

00:01:59   are special pronunciations although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   think clitoris is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   that's within the clitoris it's within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/123">TS</a>]

00:02:07   the realm clitoris clitoris that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08   tomato tomahto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   mhm but react Carnegie Hall we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/129">TS</a>]

00:02:17   probably should probably start over I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18   you know I think you know me I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   like to stress too much about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22   things but I worry that hurts my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/142">TS</a>]

00:02:23   credibility that you that you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   afraid that people don't take you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   seriously because you mispronounce words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   I think there's plenty of reasons to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   take me seriously i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   but but you're mispronunciation of words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   is so intentional it is largely it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   largely intentional yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   yeah but maybe i'm just throwing those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   in the kind of pops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   hell yeah that makes sense but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   you know that I i feel that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/168">TS</a>]

00:02:51   book-learned being self-educated that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   book-learning it big self-educated via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58   books is nothing to be ashamed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   and when people like swoop in and set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   and enter and get all like get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   panties riding high because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   mispronounced something whether when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10   you're using the word properly it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/190">TS</a>]

00:03:14   that you learned it from a book like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   that there's no shame in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   I think it's a huge problem now I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   talked to up a bunch of people about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   this i got himself elected him to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   this up there's been a and so we can all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   this i will cut all this outfit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   example and I don't actually want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31   avoid saying the word but there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   certain graphical file format that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   for years been pronounced very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   gift it's a gift but i think it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/218">TS</a>]

00:03:42   back to the same root problem which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   today even for people as agent is as US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48   but I i I'm so much of what I've learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51   in the last time resident is that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/231">TS</a>]

00:03:55   so much time when I was clean and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   last so much of what I've always blamed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00   quickly and made but somebody mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   president everything in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03   Shakespearean way o.o that chicks Betty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/243">TS</a>]

00:04:07   and drag oh yeah like my communications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   quite TS Eliot but don't know how to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   carnegie hall but my communications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   professor at the University of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14   Washington 20 years ago said when when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/254">TS</a>]

00:04:18   word sat on a word the definition of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   word is the sound of the word that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   called on amano payee onomatopoetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/263">TS</a>]

00:04:28   onomatopoeia all from the Greek from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/268">TS</a>]

00:04:32   Greek and and you know and I course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   raise my hand was like I've heard that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   lot as onomatopoeia and he left up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   his desk is like exactly wrong everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42   pronounces that word wrong it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   amana pee yeah so I've been pronouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/284">TS</a>]

00:04:48   it that way for 20 years just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   sometimes you just wanna and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   Bosh of this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/292">TS</a>]

00:04:53   yeah let's be honest I mean our casino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   has roots in this I mean you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   the hair okay so here's the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   that much of what i have almost finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   reading and in the last 10 to 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   has come from the internet or Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   as you say sir and and iĆ­ve talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/307">TS</a>]

00:05:11   about so many my friends of her people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   on on on podcasts saying i don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   know how to say this word i've read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19   dozens or many cases maybe even hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22   of times i know so much about this topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   but I are the persons name like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   been reading that reading what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28   person says for so long but this is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   embarrassing but hit enter have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   encountered that like you hear you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/333">TS</a>]

00:05:34   something over and over and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   first time you find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   vocalizing the word you have no idea how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   to actually say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42   yeah that happens to me constantly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   up but i feel like the most embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   example of this was when I was about ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49   years old I was with my dad somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   and it was like a Rotary Club meeting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/351">TS</a>]

00:05:55   wasn't a restaurant or something it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   a Rotary Club meeting where where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   were lots of guys in bolo ties it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/358">TS</a>]

00:06:02   you know important were there men around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   and I was standing there talking to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/364">TS</a>]

00:06:08   dad and somebody said something you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   about he he he replied to some-some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/370">TS</a>]

00:06:14   conversational gambits in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   seemed to my ten-year-old mind you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   the slightly dubious and I went oh pshaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/379">TS</a>]

00:06:24   and it was like a record was like a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/384">TS</a>]

00:06:28   stylus across a record like my dad said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   oh my stars and goddess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   well 1010 fully grown adult man look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   down means like a gas and my dad said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   did you just tell me to piss off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/399">TS</a>]

00:06:42   what and I was like huh no a sha sha sha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/402">TS</a>]

00:06:48   ppsh-41 you sure because i had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/408">TS</a>]

00:06:53   reading I think that's an onomatopoeia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   attic but it isn't push our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   this is the funny thing peshawar is a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00   a comic book rendering of how it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/420">TS</a>]

00:07:04   reciprocity single-breasted he's a fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   cursing it's not a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   it's just a sound that you you you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   only think was a word because you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   read in comic books are in novels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   you kidding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   no it's not a word I thought it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   a Scarlett O'Hara thing i thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   something the ladies said when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   saying oh I'm discounting what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   no it's just a sound that it'sit's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   yeah onomatopoeia or is it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   expression of a sound of air escaping in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   frustration and and my dad laughed he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/454">TS</a>]

00:07:37   laughed but it was a hard laughs and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/457">TS</a>]

00:07:42   he's laughing at you and he said that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   not a word that is a you are you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/465">TS</a>]

00:07:49   know he explained it to me and I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   was tomato red because all these you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/471">TS</a>]

00:07:55   know these guys 1980 in Alaska some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/475">TS</a>]

00:07:58   these guys had had you know killed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   moose with their bare hands or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   and they anything they are they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   turned so fast you know they heard piss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   off from me and turned so fast it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   like the room got ice cold and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/490">TS</a>]

00:08:13   standing there trying to explain like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   it's like in Mad Magazine when somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   says you know snorkel Fras or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   they're less offensive snuggle brand not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   evident not having one that's always it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   more that you were i was more that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/504">TS</a>]

00:08:25   were sounding insulting or or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/505">TS</a>]

00:08:29   you're saying something nonsensical know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   once they understood once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   understood that it was just a case of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   up it was you know it's an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   precociousness you have read more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   you then you know you've read more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/520">TS</a>]

00:08:44   you can support but i do anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   that up against the code that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   discussed that and they were cut they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/530">TS</a>]

00:08:54   were you know disposed more kindly to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   when they realized that I wasn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   know that I wasn't like actually saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/539">TS</a>]

00:09:02   piss off which was the thing I was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   to get hit for I never I've never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   that but I realized then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   that there that there were tons and tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12   of words that I that I was that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/552">TS</a>]

00:09:16   saying very confidently and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   really looked at them in books i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   realized that i had transposed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24   bowels or i have had left out a key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/564">TS</a>]

00:09:29   syllable out like you started you seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   it so much she started chucking it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   incorrectly right or I had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   times i added an extra syllable two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   words just because it seems like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40   that was a much better word than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   actual word like more levels definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/582">TS</a>]

00:09:46   helps and makes you sound a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   fancier if you can come up with a longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   Latin aight word like for instance the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   laminate is that right yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54   the word physiognomy oh this I for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/594">TS</a>]

00:09:59   long time i pronounce it fizzy on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   Oh physiognomies me and and at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/602">TS</a>]

00:10:07   point i pronounced it wrong and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10   couldn't figure out the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   pronunciation and now i just i mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   leave it out of the conversation because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   I can't like physiognomy physio book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/617">TS</a>]

00:10:21   me but you may be operating at two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   high-level your vocal and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/623">TS</a>]

00:10:27   true in writing i am I mean I really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   finally bought our household a an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   big Webster's dictionary because i use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   don't you like you I used to love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   reading you know reference books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38   encyclopedias encyclopedia ii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/638">TS</a>]

00:10:39   encyclopedia like what a bia I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/639">TS</a>]

00:10:43   start using more to give thongs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   ligatures that's a great guy voices EP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   but the um but but you know and again i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   will find myself looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   pronunciation and stuff but it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   because you know I used to think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   know if you're not a lot of people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   it's lazy to look things up in it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   Saurus where r well I mean if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02   using the Stars to try to come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   75-cent word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05   oh I see what you mean that is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   like if you want to try and sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/667">TS</a>]

00:11:08   fancier you know I think that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   wouldn't you know roundly criticized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   that it's not the smartest thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   but I mean you know if you read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   actual real Roget's thesaurus which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19   think the first entry is existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   it you know it starts you know most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   these to the dictionary style i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   probably get this wrong look so stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   but the the dictionary style the stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   that were used to is very closer like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   rhyming dictionary almost you say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   antonyms and synonyms for blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   but the actual Roget's thesaurus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   almost philosophical and sometimes yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   oh yeah so that you can read it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   read it like a I mean I for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   I kept one in the bathroom and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   just when I was in heaven when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   there for an extended period i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   just like greeted your browser it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   because it's full of so many like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   beautiful it's like it's like on style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/712">TS</a>]

00:11:56   or writing utensils writing l7ii forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/716">TS</a>]

00:12:02   that book at my peril all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   yeah you should leave it in the bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   I i have i have a book on on the unix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/726">TS</a>]

00:12:10   operating system and a book on writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   next to the toilet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   yeah yeah and let's be honest and house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/733">TS</a>]

00:12:17   mmm i was going to say the be a omnibus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   of Wilberforce or whatever will hold a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/740">TS</a>]

00:12:24   bit what's up man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   the guy with the credit but we go sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   of the cum out of his head there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   the focus sneaked whatever over horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/749">TS</a>]

00:12:35   oh god I I could talk about that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/755">TS</a>]

00:12:38   all not that but the the word stuff it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   think one good reason to i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   again on the one hand this sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   contradictory conservatory it is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46   you don't know if you don't you're about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   to use the word and you don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49   it means it paid episode already this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   my favorite song so contradictory gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   cut all this out and start talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/773">TS</a>]

00:12:57   the musicians they don't like in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   minute but William but you know one good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   thing about that thesaurus is that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   first of all you can look up a word and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   see if they're well-known a dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   will tell you like where the word came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/787">TS</a>]

00:13:08   from and so you might discover that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   there might be especially if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/790">TS</a>]

00:13:11   writing something reverse you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   discover that there is in an implication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   to the use of that word right exact not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   know exactly tone to a temperature to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22   the word absolutely i mean each make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   every word count or whatever they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/805">TS</a>]

00:13:26   but also in thesaurus you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   opportunity to see is there a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   word ideally maybe even shorter word or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/809">TS</a>]

00:13:32   a more precise word that will let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/814">TS</a>]

00:13:34   the words it's incredibly boring but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   think if you do if you get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   habit of doing that you not only build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   your vocabulary at the key become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   slightly better thinker because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   realize that there might be a better way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/823">TS</a>]

00:13:44   to put this and that's how you as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   say learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/826">TS</a>]

00:13:46   yeah well I'm as the better I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49   reason there are synonyms every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   one of them my name is cinnamon is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   maybe a misnomer every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   those words has a different as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   different temperature than it conveys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   it and and that is that's that's encoded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   in its root and encoded in the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/842">TS</a>]

00:14:05   been used and popularized in it tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/845">TS</a>]

00:14:08   when we were talking about worldwide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   words the other day didn't I mention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   you that he contacted me are you kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/854">TS</a>]

00:14:14   no he wrote me a letter he was like Anna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/854">TS</a>]

00:14:17   is the John Roderick from rob econoline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/857">TS</a>]

00:14:20   yes I'm the man from worldwide words and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/860">TS</a>]

00:14:24   I just wanted to say that i've got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   of new subscribers from you why I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/866">TS</a>]

00:14:30   lost my I had a high actually move move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   to somewhere less sense out of London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   maybe I gotta do what I was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   something brompton and Robbie I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/876">TS</a>]

00:14:40   sausage shares probably when I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   started in in a bond but anyway he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   like he was like I got a bunch of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   subscribers from your program and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/887">TS</a>]

00:14:48   wanted to thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   that's lovely and it was it was nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   that you know everybody the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   entomologists the better you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   worse and you know it's it's funny it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   like you know funny it's funny to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   like some of those people like I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01   enjoy that Jeffrey number the guy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   guy in fresh air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/904">TS</a>]

00:15:05   I i love that stuff I i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   following after you mentioned that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08   started i think of word nick is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   that looked at and it reminds funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/911">TS</a>]

00:15:15   because you're saying peshawar it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16   reminds me of the kind of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   cursing I think that's where i read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   but everything was a thing about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/920">TS</a>]

00:15:21   know her cursing and of course i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   was different number of the read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   book called like you know the history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   the word asshole and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   I think I apparently is an interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/926">TS</a>]

00:15:30   with somebody about cursing but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   still Eunice you must know this but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   many of the funny phrases like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/934">TS</a>]

00:15:37   jimni cricket or cheese and crackers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/937">TS</a>]

00:15:41   like there's all these ways that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   could avoid saying Jesus Christ right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   jiminy Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46   exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47   but but you know they ask this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   for example and I'm i think that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   interesting that you learned shot right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   but also asking what is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   commonality and how these things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   changed over time and like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/956">TS</a>]

00:15:57   very few ones that's been there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   along has been uh let's just say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   reverence about God you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   that's one us scatology I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/965">TS</a>]

00:16:09   sexuality of people in your family comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   up a lot in cursing right and yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/971">TS</a>]

00:16:14   still tells you something about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   culture they like the God ones have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   become people much more permissive about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   a god damn sure where Jesus Christ or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   whatever well because gosh darn became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   so I mean there was a time when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   legitimately said gosh darn and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   became so Opie that you might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/989">TS</a>]

00:16:34   say god damn you see somebody putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   their thumbs into their suspenders or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   something like that but but as a as a do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   as a devoted reader of Mad Magazine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   throughout my whole childhood i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   probably reading mad when I was I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:50   have to say like five maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   Wow arm and read it until i read until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56   really until the quality of the of mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   decline i mean i would i would still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00   reading if it had kind of gone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   shitter but like Don Martin interjecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:07   out the floppy feet in the onomatopoetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:08   yeah yeah like his sort of like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:13   web splittin landscapes you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:17   kind of his way of of of of writing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:22   sounds and and I mean is so key to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:26   storytelling and I think for for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   years I had a whole separate lexicon of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   sound effects and I find that I said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   don't know if you do this and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   don't know if like the majority of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39   listeners do too but I punctuated my day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   with audible sound effects you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:46   if I'm alone and I'm walking through my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   house it's like a paddle zap zing book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:52   like everything i'm doing if i push a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   button if I Turner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56   if I turn a knob it's like point clink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:59   seen you know i'm giving and punctuating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:03   it with these noises because I think I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:08   my my experience was so touched by by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:12   reading mad and I do it with my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   girl you know i'm walking around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:15   two-year-old and everything we do i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:18   i add a little ! to like power machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:22   and I mean she I'm she's gonna grow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:26   thinking the world is a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   place than it actually is and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   mean i have to give her something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   hate me for now you'll come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   something I don't you I do it just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:38   take two things and you know the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   is I'm so unselfish aware that if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   aware of that I must do it even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42   than I think i have i have so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:47   those that long before my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   became like a you know you know a handy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   way to to blame my sound effects and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   various fully things that i do fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58   noise right yeah but there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1138">TS</a>]

00:18:59   certain repeating ones no bonk would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:03   a big one right that a bonk can be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   for lots of things i do i use bonk 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:10   times at all his bunk constantly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   you know you you're bumping like a bonk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   you know or something or the last game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   show sounds you know I get man or woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:19   yr up--bam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:20   yeah losses for the other thing i do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:25   was I mean so far there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   different ways to talk to yourself for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   example like there's something I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   when we think of somebody talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:32   themselves and it was like a spectrum on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   the one hand there's like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   somebody you know I i just started a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39   long time ago about about that lady at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42   the library where suddenly she's having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   a very heated conversation and I turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   around the corner you to fuck me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   that I told her I said it and its issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   she speaks whispering I told her this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   time to treat me like that she said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   looked around and she was she was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   very heatedly talking to no one at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   right she was going to drinking that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1198">TS</a>]

00:19:59   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00   she was talking to Dewey Decimal that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   that's one of the continuum but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   along the way there's stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05   thinking to yourself so much that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:09   might as well be talking to yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   there are some people who just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12   have this little monologue where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:15   might even like moving their mouth a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16   little bit while they're talking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   know what i mean but I'm is constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   companion is the well stroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   I walk around the house and I go oh good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   job nicely done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   oh the well of course is this is a spill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   that will be easy to clean up Oh met you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33   know at we're awarding gold ribbons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   today for its it really is that real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   that process work yeah for the guy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   the guy who can't load the dishwasher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   and now you're really sarcastic you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:44   the number one contestant you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   are in the fewer the finalists round and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   I'm saying all this out loud I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   what anybody's around but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   it's what i do instead of listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:54   radio that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   listen to what whoever that other person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   is in my head just constantly berate me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   like the wickedest like the wicked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   stepmother that ever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   wow yeah it's a blast because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:10   everyone's everything everything only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11   ones well I will you know rise up and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15   shut the fuck up for once why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   president rattlesnake on that we have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:21   have such fun we laugh we could uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:25   that's why I hate hearing that I I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   to I used to think oh I don't talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   myself or another thing is it is i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34   think it's that difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   I think if you're really honest with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37   yourself a lot of us you would realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38   that there are various ways you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   yourself that because you because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   not that lady you know Italian County [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   Library literally talking to herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   we're talking to someone who's not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   because my other thing i do is i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51   little I don't know if that's the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   phrase like traveling music i have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   have little m and is it a little so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   there's a little song I always home that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   would put my daughter on my shoulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01   and we we sing it together no mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:04   I don't know why we do it but we do or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   might make a little hmm like that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10   of its triumphal like horn or music that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   you would play when the King interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   like a trumpet voluntary or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:16   oh I think so but if you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   funny about both of those is there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   even the game chef stuff i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   based on this is so heavily based in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   comics and cartoons right if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   about it where you have to express and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   overexpress something in a way that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   be conveyed to the reader or that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   don't mean doesn't balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   yeah so I mean I don't know I i guess in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:40   some ways that count as talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   yourself I think nobody wants to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   yes it does seem so crazy but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46   what is the phrase interior monologue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49   into right you know interior dialogue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   interior you know interior direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   into interior parliamentary procedure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:57   about the classic example of this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   probably told you was the the woman I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   was walking past on the street on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   broadway one day and you know she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   a little kind of a little lady maybe 65 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   years old she had a sweatshirt on which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:12   she had appliqued epic Wade with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:16   you know flowers and and sequins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:20   colorful paint and she had very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23   carefully stitched in big letters across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   the front of her sweatshirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   don't yell at me or act right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:31   don't don't yell at me sweatshirt and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:32   saw this woman and she was just out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   a day by herself can standing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   corner of broadway and John holding her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   purse in her don't yell at me sweatshirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39   and I was like who is that message for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:44   like either that is either that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   sweatshirt that she made for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   husband's benefit and she wears around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   the house and somehow she got out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:55   house wearing it or that's a sweatshirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:58   that she made just as a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   announcement she prefers not to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   that and she wants to she wants to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   ahead of the horse cart right or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   whether she's whether she's sending that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   message to to you know forces to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:16   rest of us can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   see your comprehend it must be working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   you know you wouldn't wear it more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   once but here's the things through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   well yeah but I mean the UM it clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:27   it was homemade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   so so only one that looks like probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:30   she made it maybe it was a gift but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   still she's wearing it right a gift she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:37   might she might have a friend who season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   or something is article done there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42   also so you remember why I incorporated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   that motto in one of the very earliest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   long winters t-shirts which was based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   the what the White Castle hamburger logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   and the right in the center of the White [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   Castle hamburger a castle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   it says in in a small letters don't yell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   at me right now that you've alienated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   enough of your friends colleagues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   associates it i think we can also say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   that that you you would often refer if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   remember correctly you would remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:07   you would refer to the deal let your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:12   called bar suit that don't yell at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   labeled called don't yell at me music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   but right yeah they're still very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:22   gentle very ultimately rock at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   was don't yell at me music right pleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   that we're not going to yell please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   don't know what is that looking back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   that what if you in fact that today what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   is what does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33   as you look back at it what would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:37   movement represents well I mean it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40   hearing you say that at the time i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   think of to be honest like maybe half a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   dozen bands that were amongst my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   absolute favorite bands but I knew I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   felt like I knew exactly what you meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   when you said that but they don't not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   not to you know take this apart too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   but you're kind of don't yell at me has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   this implication of like on the one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   like it's going to be gentle gentle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   music but it's also going to be maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:04   it's kind of intimate like I'm telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   you things about myself I'm disclosing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   these these intimate things about myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   right but it i don't know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13   something also to there's this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   deeper sensitivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   I don't know what I mean I I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   from 1982 1994 no matter what genre of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:25   music you chose to be a fan of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:29   chose to pursue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   everybody was everybody was going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:35   full bombast all the time like pop music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:39   rock music metal music country music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   every genre was was good getting bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:47   bigger bigger bigger right punk rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   music loud screaming how heavy rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:52   music loud screaming heavy metal music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   wild screaming duran duran it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:58   there was there was there were no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   moments in a Duran Duran song where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   like got real right i mean the cure-all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   for everything things in a very general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   statement but I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   things got more bombastic to call my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   friend Richard it's all over church but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   there's a lot of stuff that there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   much development a lot of the time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   was on it was like all chorus like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   huge huge huge and grunge was huge huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:22   huge and by 94 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   I mean there there was the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:28   generation of musicians for whom the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   idea of making music that sounded like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:35   seals and cross but was radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:39   revolutionary a complete like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   overturning of the old guard and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   that conscientious like a removal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:50   distortion the removal of the of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   just yelling but even like masculine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57   singing and replacing it with breathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   acoustic quietness and quietude of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:05   thought I mean all the way back to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:09   river like going back to Pink Moon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13   imagining that pink moon was the was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:16   foundation argument of a whole movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   that at the time didn't happen and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   starting a pink moon as if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   contemporary and making music in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   vein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   trying to exercise was 20 years of of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:33   really like swingin cock music I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   think about David Lee Roth and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:42   elliot smith and contrast the two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:46   they're both like guys in their twenties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   trying to impress the world with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   with their inner life and it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:56   are different species you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   David Lee Roth will never see his like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   again but I mean I'm I mean it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:05   first time i heard elliott smith it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   it it scared me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   it was so spooky and so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12   concept and I mean I was making records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   at the time and coming coming out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18   whole lifetime of being raised to a or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:23   raising myself for being being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   indoctrinated to think that that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   musician I was supposed to convey sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   power I was supposed to convey total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:34   confidence and a sexual power and total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   confidence that i didn't i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   personally like feel I had or understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:43   and then all of a sudden as an adult I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:47   mean I was i I was 30 years old before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   this really became the the language of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   pop music but all of a sudden all around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   me were young guys 23-year year old guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:59   who were singing in a whisper about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:03   their teddy bears and said you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:07   making their guitars sound as plinky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10   whisper as they could and people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   you know like guys were playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:18   glockenspiel not as a joke but as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:21   primary instrument like I play the vibes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   man that's my like a band that had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:29   a dedicated an ironic accordion player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   for example right i mean American analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   set you would go to their shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:38   you know that that that that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   era of of bands where you go to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   shows in the butt and just the noise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   the bartender working would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   overshadow the music light low would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:51   at the example that's right right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52   you where you just you're in their ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   in the room and and so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   tension of the show is this tension that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:59   you're carrying like please don't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   some drunk girls start talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   please don't let that guy next to me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06   know like if he says one more thing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   going to say something to him and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   the guy says one more thing and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12   like oh wat if he says one more thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:16   am gonna confront him you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:20   Shh and all this kind of like energy at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   Rock Shows yeah i mean i don't i was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   the knitting factory one time watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   Jason Molina and his and songs ohio when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:30   they were in their quiet phase and a he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:35   was making you know super quiet music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   and i turned to some guy at the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   was like hey man if you want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:44   why don't you walk around the block and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   the guy was like it's a rock show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   said that's clearly not it's not a rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:52   show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:52   it's a kind that's making quiet music we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   can all hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   I mean how many of those conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:57   did we have and and you know at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:02   like I was I saw iron and wine their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:06   first time at south by southwest in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   room full of people talking on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   phones and he's up there like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:13   whispering into the microphone in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:16   that felt and this was my reaction to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:20   at the time like this is aggressively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   quiet you are you are making quiet music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   in a room full of monsters and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:30   it is a form of attack you know nobody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:34   enjoying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   no that relies almost subversive yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   you're not enjoying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38   we're not enjoying it it is as angry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:42   as a and as ugly as if you were standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   up there a fling shit at the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48   you know it was that form of that form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   of corporate power game gamesmanship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   where you you you talk really quietly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   and it makes people lean in MH you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   that it just felt like it felt like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   in music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   um but among the people that were making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:07   it there was no there was no conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   or at least there was no overt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   acknowledgement that this was a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   game or that this was a that this was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   aesthetic choice that was born out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:20   anger and frustration and desire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:23   overthrow the old guard you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:26   presented even even in the interest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29   inner sanctum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   it was presented as like no man this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:34   my thing I love your thing two men this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:39   is just amazing is so beautiful and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:42   standing there my David Lee Roth pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   and I'm like oh yeah oh wow you mean my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:53   daughter watch the video for unchanged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   at the day we're watching videos of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   turn and cook the chair any chair right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:02   which to her would be like if your if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:06   your dad played you up pics i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   listen to this part listen this park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   well we were it started out arm where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:15   were this video going around in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   week or so of this thing really detached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:20   looking fourteen-year-old girl playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   eruption really really well sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   you'll see the easily click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   yeah i mean you'll see these like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:27   know meet musical savant videos going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   around and was like I want to play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   real thing and of course if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   try to find any video of eruption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   first of all they're like the solo alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   is like somewhere between like 82 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   minutes long it's different every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   had to be honest i want to say they vary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   in quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   I guess I mean that in a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   complimentary way because he doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   know he's got his bag of tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   yeah certainly Edwards got the bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   tricks but but I mean he brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   something it feels like he brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56   something different to it every night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   but of course in that let me go let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   take a step back okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01   oakland 1981 are only three videos so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:05   good that exists of this and I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   to show you what might be the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   van Halen song she's five and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   showing i'm making a way I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   jumps off and he does the kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   yea yea and all and you know what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   canonical Mike Anthony douche thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   he's hitting the a with just his right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   hand and important the honey his season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   open a well-appointed the audience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   pumps Jack Daniels and but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:30   you know but like I think about likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:33   no not gonna name names but some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   folks on the label I mean I I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38   you know everybody likes to name-check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   you know Pixies which is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43   all-time favorite bands but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:44   partly I think because they were able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   bring like for example I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   the thing of their the video of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50   two or the DVD or whatever you call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   up there too was called now quiet loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53   which is kind of a joke about Pixies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   yeah because they they were alongside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   that he'll be any production that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   thought was just perfect perfect match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   for them the end you know another one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   for the same thing this ability to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   be so like a boy you think you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:08   stuff in the eighties in your face like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   welcome welcome to serious in your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   music but then we'll just drop something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   like gigantic which could be so endemic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   but then also creepily quiet-like inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19   the same song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20   yeah but i'ma quiet miss you still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23   gigantic anything in the Pixies you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   still felt anger and was very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:30   unsettled and like just a simmering like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33   that's something disturbing was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36   just write it on the surface or very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   near the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:39   yeah and I think that that is what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   elliott smith compelling but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   that a lot of that generation of indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   rock that I came up in the Menace is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:50   present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51   yeah that's what I was going to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   mean a lot of that post-rock we stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:54   post-rock you know which is such a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57   like what does that mean post-punk oddly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   enough is very meaningful to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00   I think there is something in common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   with being a family mission of burma or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   whatever but like what would like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   post-rock I felt like it was a prank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   it really felt like I mean I don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   this in the ne well I guess I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   mean it this way it's like in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   emperor has no clothes just in error the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   emperor's new clothes where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   this sense of like its it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   really i would sound like such a dumbass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   to go like I just don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   tortoise think all of my friends are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26   named checking this one record with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27   whatever this 15-minute glockenspiel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   song on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   I don't understand it godspeed you black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31   emperor i get i can actually get big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   time because it sounds like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:35   listen to that on this all right I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   listen that on subway and honestly feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   like everything literally an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   world was about to collapse a national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   stuff oh and they were great at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   diner dynamics that's a lot of post-rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:46   precious it was so you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:49   like the ball yeah that was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   sharing the stage with a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52   bands and and getting up getting a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:56   of rolled eyes at my theatrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2276">TS</a>]

00:38:01   I mean I told you the first time that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   ever met Josh Rosenfeld's for in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06   capacity as a record label owner he sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:10   down with me in a pizza restaurant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   said yeah your bands not really my thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   that was the Hurricanes that wasn't her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:19   again so I was like oh why are we here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   then why did we come to this restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   to meet and he said I my wife really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:28   likes you and I was like well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:32   good that's great hope you're picking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   the tank up he said yeah but for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   tastes like to any distortion boxes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:43   i was like i have i just have the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:46   and he was like yeah like exactly one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:52   too many and his band was very quirky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:56   yeah there but they were mean he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   an insulting way but it was challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:01   their music was I think pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   challenging in some ways my band before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   the Western State hurricanes the bun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   family players was exactly in the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   in the family of this busy monster where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   every song had not just five different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:15   time signatures but also for different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   genres like the verses were like country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:23   swing and then there was a ska that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   was you know it went into double time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   ska and then it went into three quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   time you know I like Paul waltz chorus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:35   and then hardcore thrash bridge and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:39   get to the end zone and then it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   about the song was about Bernoulli's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   principle and you get to the end and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   was 11 minutes long and and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   audience is sure two cds in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   yeah the audience feels like they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   took a like a intensive summer chords it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:55   slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:56   clap you dislike thank you thank you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:00   right we were you being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   deliberately eclectic well yeah that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   of course that was that was our reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:07   to grunge was a grunge was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   self-serious and along with allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   along with the loud bombast through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:15   eighties and nineties was also trip you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18   know tremendous self seriousness i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   as soon as ya as soon as David Lee Roth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   went away even the spandex metal dudes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:26   became like they forgot that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:29   that they were clowns you know the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32   by the late eighties those guys in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   guys at Nelson her whatever seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   she's actually my cherry pie literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   like they really get they really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:40   they were legitimate artist and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   like hey you guys are a joke on a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   let me say it again because you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   not have heard my words listen every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   Loes has a thorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:52   yeah you're wearing your mom's makeup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:56   like you're legitimately worried you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   probably Cruz seemed really dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   they never did to me I swear to you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   first Motley Crue records had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   pentagram on it it did have a pentagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   but they were wearing they were wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   like a roach clip whether they're here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:12   and having the ants makeup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   yeah and I you know an adam and the ants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   felt dangerous to me because yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   desperate but not serious oh yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   came out of the wild frontier out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   still is so odd it gets but I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   every band gets odder and odder to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   every year he was mugging for the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31   but he was here he was like dangerously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   bisexual seeming but also so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   that you felt like well yeah I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:39   you get this Gracie like burundi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   drumming and drummers ya playin that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   that might create i guess i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   exactly that means the right word that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48   from put into don't but don't worry yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   right but it was menacing to Babu Babu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53   anytime like Morocco because all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   exactly song sounds like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   rockabilly in some ways so that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00   that was like gender bender II and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   end but you know Adam and didn't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   himself seriously he was cloud around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   like it like like fee waybill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   the end he also understood like each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   album was I mean each record was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13   different version of himself for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   first like four records you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   yeah it was wearing makeup or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18   but you know the dude going from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   like pirate guy writer like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23   fabi prince charming like he was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   mad just by us he was playing to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   last row but it was it was willfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   theatrical but I mean I've always felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   like so much of the stuff in popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   music you know this whatever typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36   teenager thing but by the time i was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   senior like everything on the charts was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41   just so rough i got dammit I wish you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:45   been there we visited with some friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   last night we should talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   I was saying such complimentary things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50   about Phil Collins you should've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:52   well I you know Phil Collins really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   stands up he stands up to the test of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   time in a way that i do not think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2578">TS</a>]

00:42:59   can say glenn frey does phil collins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:02   that stuff those games and lost our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   killer ok and i had to explain to Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:08   thin not I mean when I talk about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:12   everyone everybody forgets can I say two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   words invisible touch that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   everybody forgets and I told him that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   the household him and scoots literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   every sunday morning i'm in the shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   as long as it takes to listen to turn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   again five times great tube and we sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:27   down and we sat down and looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:28   wikipedia and listen to it on our phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   and we came up with the time signature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   is it's totally bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   what is the time depending on how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   depending on how you count it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:37   it's i think it's like that it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   thirteen six or any way that jason has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:43   the girls into it but here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   is a good chance that the programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   Jason is obviously a pro he's a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   drummer but these types in the sea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   tight but this is the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:52   drummers they're all like these pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   timekeepers but no no they're not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:58   that that they get you know they get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   beginning their boxes just like anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   yeah but NYC not like maybe it's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   against Jason he's great but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   think he should be on our ad hoc board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   I've worked I worked up with some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   best drivers in the business let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   you i got to tell you and a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   you know they they get the getting their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   way of playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   and then it's very hard for them to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   you know I'm and even the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:24   like I studied afro-cuban for two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   that's really said different from guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:27   players though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:28   well no its success but that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   it's exactly the same but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   drummers you know this is their province [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   this is there there one job and I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:38   there and you know i can say that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   it's anything like I said they're so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   i would say it's hard to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   it's hard to give a note to a drummer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   sometimes to use this your parents with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   our plane you're playing a little loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   your back to light a fire extinguisher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   right next to my mom needed to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:56   enough to the drummer I was just headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   with the fire extinguisher person men in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   the has the shock wore off that i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   say hey maybe like maybe like ratchet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   down the high handle that they'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   but but i remember back into the two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   it's like a big post-traumatic problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:14   people want to start on a music show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   well you know what is kind of a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   show I mean maybe it split in we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   see it split into food handler Hitler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   music I think mental mental illness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   probably mental illness i want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   more about Johnny Carson I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   we talked about i would love to talk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   much about Hitler we hardly ever talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34   about Carson now I I think he was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37   complicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38   yeah well you know Carson was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   in a way the Hitler of late-night he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   he's a very he's a very like is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:46   television progeny david letterman he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   a tough nut to crack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   it's because it breaks my heart in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:51   that David Letterman I I think he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   very I don't know if you you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   they always say you know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56   sitting in a bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57   it's okay to look never look lonely it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:00   okay to look lonesome but never looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   lonely I think Johnny Carson was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   little lonesome well jackie was look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   desperately lonely i mean if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   about all those guys jack paar Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   Allen you know and Letterman to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:15   none of them none of them did you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   like went home at night and just likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:23   like sat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:28   and stared at the floor in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   you feel like Carson he was so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:33   on TV and and you just get the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:36   from everything you know about him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   he got in his car and he drove home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   he went into his room and he just sat in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   a chair and stared at the floor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   waited for sleep i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:47   I'm a little bit obsessed with him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:48   now did you see that as a good doctor a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   PBS documentary about him yeah i know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51   makes you it makes you it says it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   one of these Hitler documentaries where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   you see inside the man and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   oh cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   oh geez if I could go back in time if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   could go back in time and tell him not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02   to invade the Soviet Union I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:03   that would be the right thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   historically because you would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:06   helping Hitler i think is what wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   bein would say is you have to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   and kill hitler's father that his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:12   what's his name wonder bein wonder paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   well but wolf in charge of the stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17   voltage mitsuoka shots that's got a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   that though woman shots he has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   toilet paper for eyes how well for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:25   Chauncey Gardiner I mean I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   Hitler's dad was an asshole I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   Johnny Carson's mother was an asshole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   no I'm gonna watch that again tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   yeah yeah i'm i'm i'm super down on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   mom I feel like she's you know you he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38   you go through history and you you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   a catalog of all the great war criminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:43   and you know they're all dudes are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   watch any cars in our way they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47   they're all dudes with mustaches hot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   but I'm shalini he's kind of ineffectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:53   well yeah you're right even if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56   was a huge sort of a hanger-on do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:57   think I well you know Nobu Cellini was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   in power a long time before Hitler or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   Stalin Mussolini was the he's like kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:06   like the he sort of like the canada of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   dictators where the trial and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   Oakland of dictators like if he had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:11   off on his own or like a Franco if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   if you had that just that guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   obscurity go while the guys real asshole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   but you know next to Joe and Hitler and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   Stalin he doesn't really stand up does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21   but well in terms of like atrocity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24   probably not but I mean look at the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   board to you also have to have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:31   you know Italy and Spain like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:34   standard until you think we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   adjust for the size of the country small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   it doesn't seem so bad then not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   size I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   I mean that those people are are easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44   distracted by by by a nice dinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   had a nice bottle of wine you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   get started on an atrocity and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   like somebody ring the dinner bell for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   Italy your car breaks down over here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   got any soup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   ok we'll get started on that tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   and then they forget the side it out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:05   lots of mozzarella I just always when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   was a kid I remember hearing that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08   been he and his mistress had been hung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   up with piano wire and I never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   track that down but it haunted me in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   memories that he was hung up in a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   square with piano you never see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18   pictures of service photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   oh that's terrible it's terrible it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   not it's not a nice thing and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:23   they did they kind of did the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   to judge chesko it man and Romania [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28   however many years later because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:29   course as you know we've talked before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   the Romanians very close to the Italians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:35   and a lot of ways we get us also i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   always down another shot at geography I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38   think we're John has John ever told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   the story about the time that he was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   bonita he saw with jenni carlson was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46   born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:46   oh but i but so so so the one family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:50   players definitely were reaction to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:55   self seriousness of wear and also of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/2995">TS</a>]

00:50:01   know Soundgarden and away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   I mean the part of the mythology of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:04   seattle is that honey and a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:08   early crunchers were like so take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   piss and so fun you know like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:14   were fun this was the everett true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   version money but he was so silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:21   well you had a good way I can't get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   of my face I mean that stuff was fun it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   was it it was fun but it was the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:29   like I don't know being in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   it did not feel fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   I don't even even before the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:37   explosion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   no because it was so it was so fuck you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:43   that the fuck you was the fuck you was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   like a fire hose of fuck you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   it didn't feel to me like we are saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   fuck you to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:50   it felt to me like they were saying fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   you to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   and that there's something less fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   about that certainly not as fun as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   imagine like being at the first red hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:04   chili pepper shows you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   like or whatever like oh yeah but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   the Southern California version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:11   punk-rock fun which was like what versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:16   the Seattle version of punk-rock fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:17   which was like I like seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   Buzzcocks women had an early days or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   something would have been it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   been hilarious and fun at up here it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   you know so attended to that whole we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   losers we suck thing that at least for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:30   me and maybe it's maybe that it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   at 21 years old I was a massive downer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   and I failed to see the kind of ratty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:38   humor of it but but it you know it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:42   it felt real like like kind of college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:46   radio superior it felt it felt in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:50   its funds is obviously it was a trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53   to appear unselfconscious which make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   better when in fact it was deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:56   self-conscious it's just the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   was so Reverend of the Stooges you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:02   just just the idea that it would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:03   there was there was a kind of reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   in its irreverence that was exclusionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:10   of most like it was like it was woohoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:14   but you all but also you don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   everything about the Chili Peppers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   imagine those early shows where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   just like four white guys playing folk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   music and we're playing it fast and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   one guy can't sing well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   propylparaben develop apps like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   no there's no subtext there's barely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   it's just like let's take acid and dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   and and with the with the grunge thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   it was much more like what do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   let's let's have some cough syrup open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   and schedule a little bit and like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   like oh if you don't if if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   have the following records then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49   not going to get what this is about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52   so it's all you're already out you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   already outside you can't be inside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57   because of the only guys that are inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   of the two guys that are that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   decided like what the canonical records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   are and that was my that was my take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   it and so a lot of those bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   in the middle period of seattle before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   Andy came out they were we were we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:14   stands mata CLE reacting to grunge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:19   grunge was so impressive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   particularly the heroine elements I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   there's nothing less fun then you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:27   all those guys and then you make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28   junkies like there's nothing less fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   than that it's not fun at all and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:34   know the bun family players were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   let's play every kind of music at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   same time and we'll call ourselves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40   bun family players so no one can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   possibly like us you could not you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:46   not sell a single t-shirt for a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   called the bun family players there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   nothing cool about it and it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53   this busy monster was was the same like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   so uncool and of course we were hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3235">TS</a>]

00:54:00   that that hyper uncoolness would be cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:04   because you know following the be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07   inextricable logic of park as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:10   plummet into profound uncoolness you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:15   closer to the source of truth and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:19   isn't the case we were just deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   uncool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   and-and-and-and impossible to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   and enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   we don't want thing about staying with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   punk rock the LCD one thing you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   wonderful and you don't need this to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   out beyond not we are you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:40   about the the bands that I'm that I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:44   we've talked about the we both really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   enjoyed it especially ones that the eve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   mentioned as being very influential on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   your on your taste in your styling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   you're so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:51   e I'm just a couple times you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:54   easy top ACDC the flapper no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57   like such a tool like a guy who puts his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:01   clippers artists don't don't play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:02   index cards on the top ACDC no no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   also like like Judas Priest I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   know or for me i mean i I'm sorry that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   guess they're considered work for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:11   like maybe like like The Ramones or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:15   know certain you know what though I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   what looking at all those bands have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:19   you could come in look certainly def [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   leppard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:21   they're ridiculously pretentious moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   but there's a simple is the wrong word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   maybe instead of simplicity maybe once a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   directness there's certainly a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   directness with ac/dc there's that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:33   know what i mean but what's X I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   is like that's a debt so all of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36   so even when you know Rob Halford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   singing about grinder you know looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   for me like me listening to that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   there's such there's still such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   directness to it it's why the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   remotes record to me still it's goofy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   and stuff but those three chords or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:51   chords on some songs I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   overstated you know what I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54   a certain directness and it just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   there are four chords on that record is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:57   to overstate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   well I do the think that's it that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   minor but the but you know what all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   those have in common is that they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:04   directness and if you take out the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   where you add this layer of outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   earnest or you know that you choose you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11   know that over time you cling to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   outside earnest and let's not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13   started on that but I think sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   people are little embarrassed to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17   things that are direct just as some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20   people are embarrassed to like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   that's a little byzantine like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   people don't want us like last night I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   we're at a bar second part they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   Steely bear makes up everybody likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   do well i mean i think about forty-nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   percent of the population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32   haha i've never had your waiter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:36   training and claimed to like Steely Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   friend Allison a ghostie what she likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:42   this again i don't know i could swear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   that she likes to lay there with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   pronouncing it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:47   however I got to go gossiping see that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   it that's a perfect example to host you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51   got thirsty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   obviously no uncle Steve you know also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   she's a she's like a she's a lobster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   Langosta honesty but but I was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:02   little bit love that ping-pong I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   we are your family when you leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:08   fuck you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:09   hey your friend been okayed by said fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   you this petroliana i was listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   the first black sabbath record the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   day not they let you know not this not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   paranoid Black Sabbath department is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21   what the creepy like Hieronymus Bosch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   looking cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   don't think enough yeah i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   about your anyway go ahead Alex's black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   SAP on it and they're there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:34   are a lot of great tracks up on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:37   and but there's also there's also some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:40   embarrassing moments on it where you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   the sense that Ozzy is trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:46   scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:47   yeah he understands they all understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50   that they're making a new kind of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   and that it is scary sounding scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55   music and Ozzy is ripping in his kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3475">TS</a>]

00:58:00   like oh yeah kill me down and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:06   trying to sound like he's being tortured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   by the devil at and maybe in 1969 you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:15   hear that and end it with you know for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   lot of people would be genuinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   frightening but you would have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22   about 10 years old i mean i understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   why why Sabbath was kind of panned by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:27   the critics initially because we listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:31   to it now it just sounds like Sabbath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   that's how that's how it's meant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35   sound and in the context of the later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   Sabbath records you get you get its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:41   place and you understand what he's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   but if you heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   if you heard it like for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   you would say like oh it's some guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   trying to make Halloween music or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53   head there they're trying too hard to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   spooky and it's and it just sounds dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:59   and and yet like they are one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:04   they're one of my favorite bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:05   certainly like a massive influence on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   personally in terms of like who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:11   worship in terms of my god versus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14   devil do I think fairies wear boots i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:20   yes i did not i haven't got a plan i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   have it on good authority but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:26   but yeah going back to that record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27   trying to listen to it trying to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   to that record trying to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30   zeppelin one with fresh ears as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:34   you had not only never heard those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   records but never heard those bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   and you're and you're a guy who's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   like buying records in 1968 like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:44   let's check out these new bands and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   know it's not that hard to imagine why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49   music critics were like what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   really like we've gone too far now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:55   the blues and heavy rock is being made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:58   for kids now this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   for kids now this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   kids and it's only later it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   because I guess we were kids when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   have for her at first but also like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   those bands became we can go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   those records and say like yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:11   tough but they're they're pretty mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:15   you know not to over use the term clown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   act but you can cut in contrast to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:23   how serious that how serious the Blues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:27   were being taken in 1966 pretty but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:31   that music is pretty funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   really i'm looking at the cover it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   the one I was thinking of but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   funny because it it looks like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40   when Norwegian black metal band that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:44   the most ridiculous video I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:45   in my life I've linked to numerous times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   and it's this it's this pan that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   created their own mythology about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52   they're they're kind of like druids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   protecting a kingdom of their own design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   and is because that swing their beards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   right are they squealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59   well now it's in the video they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   standing like need knee-deep in a check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   creek there like in brackish water with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   the guitar is not plugged in hiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:07   behind piles of leaves and campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   through it sounds like sounds like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:10   first king video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   ah community with bushes if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:17   what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   anyway it is weird that like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   know why I keep thinking this I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:22   talked about this before but like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   funny like what feels dangerous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   people at a certain time and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   retrospect I mean that I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   talked about this too much probably but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32   like judas priest and the whole like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   lawsuit you know that they go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:37   suicide do it and like when I was I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:41   I room I I everybody remembers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   backmasking everybody of our agents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:44   hearing about bath backmasking and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   play records backwards and sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   was deliberate but my grandma who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   she was not yet Pentecostal she was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   the slide to Pentecostal but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   she would know by cassette tapes from TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   ministers and she you know we share one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   with me about like what what all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   music actually meant and it at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   it felt so booga-booga like in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:07   way as Dungeons and Dragons felt really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   booga-booga at the time you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   my god in retrospect you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   can you imagine in retrospect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   setting you aside someone who actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16   literally would play in the sewer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17   but for most of us but we were good we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20   were sitting around with dozens of dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   and books and like that casting spells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:26   yeah more like you know throwing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29   in the back of a van it was could hardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   have been more nerdy and now I mean when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   you go back and listen to some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   stuff all the stuff that seems so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36   dangerous like at a certain time I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39   you can also understand like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   your grandmother's generation all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   sudden it is the it is all the rage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   among teenagers to be practicing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   witchcraft basically you can see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:50   it freaked him out i mean there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51   anything comparable now culturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:55   except except that the internet is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58   a like a blanket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   there be dragons for old people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:05   don't know what the kids are doing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:06   their sending a snapchat pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:10   their cooters to each other but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:14   think about I mean I remember walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:15   home school can capture that computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   could perhaps a goose maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:20   oh my god that's our app that there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   a in its snps oh we just made a billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:26   dollars get marco on the phone snaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:30   snaps so it will set it to someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:35   face of us out the Sailor whoever lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   myspace and it will be aboard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   million dollars billion dollars anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   remember walking home from school during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   the dungeons and dragons hysteria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   hysteria hysterical i think that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:50   thinking out there that that's one after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   he lost the arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53   yeah person I and I i was walking home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:57   in the seventh grade or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   that and really really really focusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   all of my psionic ability to test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:08   whether or not I actually did have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:12   kind of magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   oh really and what I mean I walking by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17   myself it's 40 degrees below zero and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20   what there's no there's no one on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   streets not even cars because no one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   no it's crazy enough to go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   and I'm what you know I walked home from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   school every day and it was a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   miles and on these really really cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   days I was it was like I was in another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35   world i was in another the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38   environment was so because when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   that cold like the air freezes kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:43   in front of you and your intentions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:44   like there's there's such a it must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   so there's something less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   monochromatic like that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   it's just you must be purely like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52   whiteout and so cold that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54   I mean I've been so-called sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:55   get confused yeah you might not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:58   practically hallucinate right yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   on this particular day I got home and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   head and unusually my sister was home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:06   she was never home after school I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   know whether she's homesick or what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   was but I cut I got home and my sisters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   and normally I would have been I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   have been arriving home by myself and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   was my extremities were numb and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:20   like completely like like you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:24   groggy not sure what you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:27   confused and I was struggling to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:31   key in the lock and she opened the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   she was like my god what are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   outside and she rushes me and she put me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38   in the bathtub and my sister was when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:41   was 12 or something so she was nine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   she didn't usually take control can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47   take command of of me that way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   command of the situation she got me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   got me address got me in a hot bath tub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   and was just like what are you crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:58   what were you doing outside and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:59   reality was I was out there walking home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   pretty slowly like focusing my attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:05   on making magic if I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:13   you know like it so it was a version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   that show me a sign God if you are real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18   show me a sign but I was when I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   conjure and orb time just conjure if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:27   can just conjure one orb then that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   be the beginning i conjure glowing orb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   and you know I'm really really working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:36   hard because I imagined that magic might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:40   be the solution to my to my girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43   it might be the solution to I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   that's so much more common than anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   wants to do this to dealing with girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50   with dealing with bullies you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   was at the time of my life when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   kind of the most bullied and the most it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:57   was it was because i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:58   kindergarten when I was four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   it's right at that puberty corner that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:05   really start to notice the sixer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   yeah haven't you noticed those guys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   are a full year older than you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:10   same grade and they're like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:13   deep voices now a man is growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   mustaches and like ancestors and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   head i'm out walking in the cold trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:20   to conjure an orbit haha and but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:24   really I mean I and you know I'm not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:28   not a I'm not just some dumb kid get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   swept up in a fat I was like this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:34   proximity to magic and to this realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:39   dice and everybody talking about magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   like it's serious business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:44   and-and-and people talking about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   time magazine and and like adults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49   concerned about kids toying with don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:53   you might see like a local news thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:54   a twenty20 thing about mainly I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:57   mainly the Satanic quote-unquote aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00   of it but all of that convinced me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   the adults are so scared of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   there's some got to be something to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:05   and so if and I believed about myself my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:08   whole life if there was anyone who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:12   born with magic it had to be me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:17   for the love of God had to be me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:20   there if there were really mutants and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   there had been some other kid at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   school who had a legitimate mutation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27   where he had laser beam shoot out of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   eyes or a touch you and make you cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:33   and have a cool white stripe in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:34   bangs or control metal make make metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:40   fly through the air stopped looking kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   of father John if their work if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   were really kids that had those skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   and i had not been one of them I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   normal i would i would have argued a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:51   heartbroken not only what I've been our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   programmer but i would have gone to war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   against you i think everybody does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4135">TS</a>]

01:09:02   I think everybody's ice but I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:03   explain dungeons and dragons to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:04   daughter today we were out playing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:08   that's you know whatever but like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   it's been for the last week or so she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   Captain America and Iron Man and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:13   told her that I if it's okay with her I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   want to make a switch because I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:16   of getting more into dr. strange and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:19   and i was explaining why that's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   for me but I think I try to explain how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23   the convention & Dragons this actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   is kind of on topic weirdly in two ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:28   um on the one hand I think everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   does like to think that they can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:31   magic and I think everybody in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32   teen years whether they would ever call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   it that you might not you might call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   that but the ability like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   she is convinced that she can know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:39   future like she knows that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   connection knows that things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:42   to happen she's constantly wrong but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   you know she throws up those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:45   remembers where she did predict the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   future right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:48   um but but like I think I've talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:51   lots of people about this whether that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:52   like hypnotizing figure how to hypnotize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   girls or figuring out how to like make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:58   can bully have diarrhea like everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00   it's a time when your life is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01   confused and full of like dark grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   magic that like you might as well piss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:07   on a spark plug because you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:08   what might work right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   concentrate on so few things other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   things that make you want to masturbate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:13   for example that like that's the closest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   thing to get to meditation when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:16   thirteen is getting into the spot where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18   you want to produce an orb right or stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:21   Tara stop thought maybe you'd always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   convinced I could do these things yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   used to sit and look and i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   try to I the colors of cars have a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   bearing on my life because I would need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   to try to make decisions and see signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32   of God but I would also use it to test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   whether or not I could predict the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   future you would say the next car that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   comes around the corner is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:39   yellow and that means that i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   take a left instead of right and go play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:44   well or I will I will call her or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:47   subtly she will call me right LOL VW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:51   that's what i'm looking for like bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:54   bug house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55   punch buggy had also explained to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   that like I don't do this John I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00   get any to get I need to get an older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:01   brother not a younger child but i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   explaining explaining classes to her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:06   how like you can have different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   fighters but i think it's a expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   but right now I'm looking at my dad my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:14   dungeons and dragons dice I'm pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   them out i right feeling so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:17   drawn between adventure time and dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   strange like I've been feeling more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   more drawn back into it and I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22   what feel like we need to get wilwheaton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   on this podcast that's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   happen with liquor there i'm gonna i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:28   gonna roll you're gonna conjure fallen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   storm if you're not careful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   o.o save vs permanent opportunity i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:39   forgot that i have a have a green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   20-sided die in addition to my almighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   i predicted that I knew that I knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   but I feel like it's funny that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   like I've been reading this thing called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:48   Infinity Gauntlet which is like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   full of like crystals and magic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   Doctor Strange making the freehand thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   and like it but it would and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   funny thing like when we played the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   boneheaded Ramones version of D&D that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:02   you could play there's so much we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   do we didn't do psionics varieties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   didn't follow turns so sure we played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:10   we just didn't know if he was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   roll for anything other than damage know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:14   like nobody wanted to be a cleric God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   nobody wanted to be an illusionist who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   wanted to be a cleric it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   universal joke like nobody was fern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   imagine those demons that were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:24   rolling to determine what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:27   characters did next like characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:30   do the ghost with a kind of game game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   playing p.m. or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   where that we're term we should be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   like being God and Joe but the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:39   yeah instead of being a DM was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   the the ghosts put on a crown of mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:44   they turn your bones to jelly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:46   here's the beauty part is you can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   play by yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   yeah right it has the DVD version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:53   talking to yourself you could you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:54   make your own Dutch intention you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   some people check themselves right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   yes I mean I take on a percentage of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   role for that uh yeah well there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   there was what was the most recent 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:07   see a movie where they are the bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   playing chess with himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:10   oh I think I got to tell you I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   think if you're looking to be some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   of a Bond villain chest figure heavily I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   don't think I don't think nice people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:17   choose to play chess I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   challenged to chest chest to me is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:22   of those things that's it you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:23   I mean they're called to it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:24   ministry to meet chess is like wearing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:27   narrow jacket you know it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   things like like you're a Bond villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:31   like if you have your own Island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33   ordinary jacket or like a stroke at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   certainly these are great indicators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   yeah you're probably up on villain I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39   really wanted to be a chess kid you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:42   just be a high IQ kid in a chip in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:45   chest kids like me and I hi cute kid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   get to wear a big hat to wear dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   turtle interviewed yeah right yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52   mean you can you can have like crazy Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   Dylan Einstein hair and everybody's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:57   you know that it's it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   having magic here the chest kid like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   doing at your hand with grownups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   yeah exactly you are immune to the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   the of the vagaries of childhood you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:08   go right two grown-up status and skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:12   all the in between but the chest was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:16   I've never won a game of chess in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   entire life all that thinking ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:21   then thinking ahead ahead and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   still get your ass handed to you by just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:26   like just a random 30 year old who's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:29   even trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30   you're like fuck I don't have this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   don't have this gift okay now this gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:34   back to magic like there are some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   who think like being able to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37   with a witty remark seems like magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:40   there are some people who think being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:41   able to play drums and not be stupid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   magic and and like to me it was anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:47   but I but to me like seeing people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:50   not only understand and remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52   rules of chess but but can I can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   completely boggles my mind they might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:57   well be teleporting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:58   did you know what I mean it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   same way that somebody like if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01   seen one of those videos of pablo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   picasso even way after his prime drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   or painting and just watch him make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   few lines turn into something even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:10   it's shitty Picasso it's still like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:11   mind-blowing that's how I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   watching people play chess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   I don't understand how they you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   have a different brain to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:18   yeah yeah that was not the way that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:22   not the way for us to escape childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   and in fact neither of us did we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   endure every painful moment of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:29   here's the other thing and think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:32   when I'm sorry we haven't talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:33   Johnny Carson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34   but but but if you think about like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   the other like the bugbears if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:39   right of the nineteen seventies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   eighties and you look at stuff like dnd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:42   ok like heavy asthmatic kids with dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:46   you look at motley crue I mean like 5th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:49   generation glam with you know temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:54   tattoo Satanism right you look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:57   that stuff and then think about who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59   real fucking maniacs are a guy who's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:02   the rotary club club that dresses up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   like a clown John Wayne Gacy did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:07   have pentagrams no he did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:10   and he did not you know what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:11   you think about it until you see these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:12   guys in the dusters where pancake makeup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   and going whoohoo spooky but it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17   it's the it's the analogy of these angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20   here we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:23   set your watch by it yes the finality or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:28   but Nala tosh.0 special is a horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:31   that's alive that right like more drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   we leavin leaving from leaves leandro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37   leavin leaving around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   yeah uh I do not I don't you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:44   saying is the title about one that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:45   that great now you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   acknowledge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48   are you allowed to talk about horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:49   vessel in Germany today sure okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:53   you can't sell stuff on ebay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:54   couldn't sell the horse vessel out 45 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:57   well you know I don't know what those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:58   rules are I think you can talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4618">TS</a>]

01:16:59   Nazism it's all they talked about him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:02   der Spiegel but a but you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:07   talk admiringly about it i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:10   could probably that's subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:11   yeah it is i think you could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:12   sell that stuff if you were selling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:15   if you were selling it to a museum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:19   its long and not yet sir its educational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   or cultural and not for its previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   value right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:26   I bit but but again i don't know i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:28   know all i don't know all of that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:31   I was thinking today was thinking today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   Berlin that maybe maybe what I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:36   do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:36   here's my plan it's a little bit water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:39   what is this one of your new thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:40   technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41   this is a new thought technology what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44   i get an old at all oil tanker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:48   I could like I'm talk about a ship a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51   giant ship and i construct an arena on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:56   it on the unopened arena that seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4676">TS</a>]

01:18:00   let's say 15,000 people on the deck of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:05   giant oil tanker then I park it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:08   international waters and I hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:12   tournaments where teams representing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:17   various religions stick fight to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:23   death and we as we know it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:27   it's a secular night none it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:30   non-secular neighborhood stick fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:32   that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:33   so for instance like market parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:36   somewhere and then the first question I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38   had was our their international waters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   in the Mediterranean or is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   Mediterranean so small that all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   there's a little lot of stick fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   Catholics there I've got a guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:47   well so that's what i'm saying so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:48   probably in between you got the Arabians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   you like the papist it's a party itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:53   partnerships somewhere off of Crete and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:57   you say okay you know because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   internet is international you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:02   to go on any national television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   he just say on the Internet ok we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   accepting applications for teams from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   Palestine Israel Lebanon uh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:15   Orthodox Greece it's almost like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18   opposite of the Olympics it's not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:21   create Brotherhood is to settle old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:22   scores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:23   that's right shuttle settle old scores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   and there are no restrictions like put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:28   together a team of five you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:31   make it all of the bat the best mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:34   martial artists in your country or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37   all of the most ruthless like criminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:40   or whatever there's did there no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41   limitations and we're just gonna settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:44   we're just going to settle some stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46   I'm not saying that any we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:47   actually like we're not settling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49   anything not resolving anything forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51   cuz he's completing an annual event you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:52   have to advertise the purchase of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   ship yet we're not settling anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   law right we're just culturally settling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   grievances like let's get let's get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:01   Palestinian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:02   team Israeli to hear the Irish you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   the right but you couldn't keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:07   Irish away to look at fight the fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   everybody but everyone mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:10   everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:11   the Norwegians you know this course will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   you take a little bit into that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   start to wonder those those countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:16   that that got smacked on to Germany the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:19   pre-world War One tribes you bring them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   out and get the captain to bring their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   their regional check sticks that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   here's the thing everybody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:27   listeners thinking how are you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:28   make money off of this if it's only five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   people no because they're going to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   their fans they can be wearing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:33   scarves from Palestine or manual united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:36   or whatever we're simulcasting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   around the world pay-per-view because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:39   the internet that's right because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   internet there's 50 and you put we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:42   probably designed and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   you know I that day you can watch it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   your phone or on your other your beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49   market looking for projects and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:52   what I'm saying is then you come out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:55   your uniform is just your feet you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57   all wearing t-shirts with the emblem of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4857">TS</a>]

01:21:00   your religion on the shirt so you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   you either get a you get us the star of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:04   David's against the crescent moons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:07   you get the you know the the Catholic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   cross versus the Orthodox cross and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:12   know everybody is just out there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:14   you know exactly what who the teams are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:17   and they're just they're just stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   fighting the shit out of each other on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:20   this on this water world and supertanker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:24   em simulcasting around the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:28   this is not something where we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   to sit and have some it's about a border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32   dispute that's been going on for mm 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:36   years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:36   no no it's a fight that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:39   hitting people the fucking stick and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:40   guessing that over time that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:44   most militant people of every culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:48   the people who are most agitating for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:51   violence in their respective cultures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   would gradually not if not immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:57   they would immediately you would see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   that this was just a that this was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   a publicity or that this was just some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03   some like gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:06   pulling a sensationalistic way for John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:10   yeah super trying to make a buck right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:12   it's just a sensationalistic American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   supertrain based you know probably like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:17   fake problem solver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:18   but over time if we kept at it gradually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:22   the most militant parts of every culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24   would start directing their energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   toward fight boat you stop spinning as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:30   you said John with you bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:31   neighborhood stick fights back we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:32   gonna spend less time at the mall buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   football jerseys and work it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   be it's going to be somewhere between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:37   like The Hunger Games Logan's Run and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:41   either of the two world wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   yeah there's but I mean but it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:44   to be it's going to be something with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:45   end right i mean for that year for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:48   for that season if you turn but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:49   contained on the boat and the bend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:52   what the winter with every tanker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:53   seasons there will be a rolling season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:55   how would that work well because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:57   boat we can go we can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:58   you know like in the mo the northern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01   winter we can go down to the poplin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:02   islands we can go over to let me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   about all the different stick fight Yugi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:08   solution i could see some Protestant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   signing on for a pretty long cruise just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:13   a while their cocks fight just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   around the Gulf of Mexico and just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18   the just people in their Alabama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   tuscaloosa missing backers la mexicana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:24   all just just parked off the coast of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:27   Galveston and people would be settling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   Texas grievances for an entire year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:31   oh my god John this did it extends on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:34   many levels and plus everybody likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:35   cruises right so you can get on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:38   and this could kill other thing is I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   almost wish you'd seen that hunger games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:41   movie because it it's kind of similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   like we're basically you get people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   all of these as they say districts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   they come in and they're compelled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   fight each other to death but I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:50   this case like a sacrifice situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   right where is it is it is it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:55   dystopia unlike super training in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:57   case maybe it's something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:58   maybe you might get some better food but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   you're definitely get a boat right out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:01   of it and somebody's gonna get their ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03   kicked and this is all completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04   voluntary because what we're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   do is attract the people who have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:09   in their blood who want to settle their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11   grievances this way we're giving them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   venue for the score settlers for servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:15   and think about all the guys from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:17   Finland not to mention the people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20   germany who traditionally when for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   people's battles i mean i would now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:25   that's a good question could we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27   there be ringers I don't know how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:30   the Civil War you could you could have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:31   go fight for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   yeah I don't think I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:34   should I think you should think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:35   could be like a test of faith in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37   addition like congratulation people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   noses or something like that would fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:41   up you take a look at their you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:42   been charms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:44   um it would be open to whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46   would have them wear clothing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   tight fitting enough to see if the women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   or the men have been circumsized right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   you just so you know we stand + let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   honest it has a sexual component to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:55   that I think people would really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57   oh hello t-shirts with the religious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   emblems yes had no pants finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMd9FQA/5099">TS</a>]