Ep. 76: "The Cherry of Somebody's Appeal"
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hello hey John
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hi Merlin has it going out so late
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ha look it's late and you are a busy guy
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no I'm not really you're busy been
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traveling yeah I have to say though the
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the work that you're doing is God's work
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thank you John thank you
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I know we talked a lot about civics yes
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yes you are putting your money where
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your mouth is
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well my mouth is in a chair for nine
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hours a day
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this is boring no one cares all that's
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not true you are doing jury duty which
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is every American's duty that's why they
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call it duty jury duty instead of jury
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Michael cherry option right but in such
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a hurry to be not reduce injury doobie
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know now so you're in one of those those
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wood chairs
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yeah no no it has come a long way and
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then Madlock comes over and well you
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know if you had not texted me like
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literally 15 minutes ago I was going to
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go home and watch out 12 angry men but
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instead i was watching at the greatest
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great escape that I think myself a
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little break
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that's a nice one it makes you laugh
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when you're sitting there in the jury
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box you can imagine yourself jumping
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your stolen Nazi motorcycle
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ok part where spoilers no spoilers sorry
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sorry you've never seen it now I haven't
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oh no I immediately struck me as seeing
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a lot like that class of movies that we
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yes yeah yeah yeah it seemed a little
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bit like Dirty Dozen a little bit like
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force 10 from navarone a bit of a later
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later longest day
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should i ask i watch that what does have
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you not seen the longest day know what
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is that oh the longest day create here I
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go the longest day it's a it's a movie
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but you just said that again okay hey
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great that down the longest then just
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it's a movie about DJ okay and it's the
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original like massive Hollywood picture
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starring every single actor like it's
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Cod it's got it
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David Niven it's got you love David
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Niven I'm even giving your canonical guy
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with a beret who blows things up
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he is and you know it's the british guy
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with the bomb that you kind of want to
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be ya the briefcase full of the
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briefcase full of bombs from for stem
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from know he was enforced it was he
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I'm not going to go into David Nevins
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Lincoln you know John I i'm not a Joseph
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Campbell archivist but i'm pretty sure
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the disco hacking hope we're not gonna
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talk about comics but this is a
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character the guy with the beret from
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England briefcase full of bombs
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yes and he at first he seems a little
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bit poncy but but haven't but he knows
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where to put the bomb it does he does he
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knows how to blow up he knows how to
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blow up the mountain but in such a way
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that there's plenty of time to escape
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which are they coming by the beach or
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are they coming the other way like where
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you comin from via it's a story they do
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come via the beach can in on the on
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d-day on de de as we say in the purlins
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d4 day but it's the whole story of d-day
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it's like it's it was when when saving
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private ryan came out this may shock and
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surprise you but when saving private
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ryan came out I had no interest in
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seeing it because i had seen the longest
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day and it was definitive he felt like
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it was a high bar it was important
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because it's you know the longest day is
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made it is made well that well while the
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sand of d-day beaches was still on the
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shoulders of half of the actors in the
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film you know like there are a lot of
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actual world war two veterans in the
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and so Steven Spielberg with his slow
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motion bullets and stuff I was just like
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I don't need it
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I don't need to see it and it was only
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when I when I was introduced to band of
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brothers on one of my earliest jetblue
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flights so the first one the first time
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I took jetblue right after they had
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opened as a company you know back when
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having a TV on an airplane seemed like
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it was it was literally unique there was
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a community what you can watch any on a
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plane inside of the seat
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yeah and i'm saying i sat down in my
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leather seat and looked at this little
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postage stamp-sized TV and I said are
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you kidding it's likely i'll never it's
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like flying has become fun again right
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and i sat and i watched probably i don't
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know how many episodes of band of
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brothers probably for at least episodes
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of band of brothers back-to-back and
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that's an amazing television show and
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then it caused me to say to it piqued my
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curiosity about about perception private
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ryan enough that i went to watch it was
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like that right but the longest day
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that's where everybody needs to start
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I'm not breaking my rule and looking
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here and it's alphabetical to forgive me
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get you got Eddie Albert and Albert's
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there you get Paul Anka you that sir is
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that correct yes they're all that you
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know they're only potter there's like a
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prank or hook canary trap you get
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Richard Burton red buttons
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what's right shut up honoree fabian
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maybe fabian which I look bitch I would
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put in the pile with a Paul Anka you got
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Henry Fonda what right and this is a
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year before the great escape this came
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out now if memory serves October fourth
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1962 remembering that right yeah so
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before thank you know to the 110 111
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whatever takes sure and I think it's
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down approximately two percent and
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popularity this week
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uh-huh it's a hell of a movie it's
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probably three hours long
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I like a Torah Torah yeah and you really
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get this you you know it
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every one of those guys has their star
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turn everybody gets their character
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development everybody has their you know
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their moment
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its a mix it with your friends and
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watched when you finally watch the Ryan
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yeah i mean like I'm guessing I'm just
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just speculating that you must have been
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kind of into the on the beach scene
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right well that's pretty great right
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yeah the war stuff is is awesome but you
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know I don't care how many how many like
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makeup lines you draw on Tom Hanks with
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the eyeliner pencil boy I case tell i
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still see him in bosom buddies yeah
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whatever that time Peter Scolari every
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time he comes on the screen I see him
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with the falsies on trying to sneak up
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into the into his like all-girl
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apartment building a good shout it was a
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great show and then if you do hit I feel
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like his most sophisticated role was in
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bachelor party a witch and that's what
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that's what like Tom Hanks character
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development stops for me is you think
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that the head that's the hanks about the
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SS is standing there
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he's standing there like that and it's
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two steps down to the living room of his
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big hotel room
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yeah and and his friends are throwing
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him throwing him a big bachelor party
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where he's going to have sex with a lot
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of hookers and girls and he just can't
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because he loves his fiancee too much
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and that's complicated losses to Beyonce
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I remember i'm trying to member who is
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in that it was it was I mean that was
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don't that's one of those movies that is
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not aged super well I mean yeah it's one
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of those movies like how like what
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it's a lot like a few good men it's
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canonical in a lot of ways like you
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watching a WoW like when I i love this
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one came out and I and but it really
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feels like kind of a time
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well let me just answer my own question
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yes to a common objection objection has
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cast and answered Tom Hanks's love
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interest and fiance in batches
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is a tawny kitaen is trying to get haha
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funny contain David covered sales
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girlfriend
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yes and now I think pretty pretty like
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resolutely over onto the other side of
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like cookie wall and right isn't it
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hasn't she's some kind of like
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conservative blogger or she's like a
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spanker or a vaccine person that kind of
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how or maybe like a like like like what
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is she using her bully pulpit for she
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knows maybe with something else like she
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was arrested for a for waving a pistol
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around or she she had she was wearing
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some of those sweatpants that had a bad
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hollister written on the back and and
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like date rape the girl i don't remember
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what it was about it
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whatever happened to Tony contain it
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wasn't pretty and that's and that is a
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tragedy to me because I I found her very
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attractive in the Hades tiled god yes
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but it was the way that was a the
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keyboard player from journeys girlfriend
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who is that Jonathan Cain had a hot
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girlfriend to remember
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come on stay with me united ahead and go
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all the way into journeys girlfriends
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well you got the greatest hits though
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I could not I could not handle Steve
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Perry I could just couldn't handle it
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there wasn't anything about Steve Perry
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I could handle yeah you know it's deep
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what he needs this context he makes a
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lot of sense in context
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yeah but I never had the context i
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always was like yes he is he's
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ambiguously gendered he's ambiguously
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like I'm not seriously calendar is what
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he is he's ambiguously talented i'm not
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sure whether he's asian south pacific
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islander I know his replacement is I'm
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not sure about TPP replaced by a Samoan
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I'm saying is the the new singer in
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journeys from the philippines haha
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he do that no i didn't but my mind is
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you know I literally exhausted from jury
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duty and i'm suddenly America I mention
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these different supergroups and now when
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involve the replacement singers from
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bands simply you've got you got the memo
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Steve Perry I got the guy who's not rob
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halford right Gary Chicot sharoni oh
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come on line for her from vanillin three
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can ruin a wet dream
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that's it's just all here saying it's
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all singers it's all replacement singers
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i think i think the girlfriend of
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anybody in a famous man should be named
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Tony I mean justjust for archival
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reasons there was a girl in my high
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school and she said her nickname or was
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that your given name was writ was a real
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man she was a shoes of a guy I always
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felt like she was an attractive girl
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yes I was thinking the other day I
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remember I was at a high school party I
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right at that transition when we were i
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guess i guess it's a transition that you
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make at the beginning of your senior
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year where you start to have parties in
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motels a.m. instead of at people's
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houses we're like okay what you know
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like we're old enough now we can go get
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a hotel and we're going to have a party
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there and it wasn't one of these motel
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parties in Anchorage and there was it
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was it was the socialist the socialists
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were having a party right
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and somehow at that point by the time
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you're seeing your lucky kinda like I
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felt very comfortable crashing social
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parties even though they didn't want me
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there and I showed up in my in my trench
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coat with the book the whiteout skull
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and crossbones on the back with my
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friend Cal and we were you know we were
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looking for trouble and it's all the
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girls with the with the sprayed up bangs
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and everything and this girl very drunk
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went into the bathroom went to the went
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went potty she went number 20 and she
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came out and had failed to flush the
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oh no the poor thing yeah and so the
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next guy who to the to the room and
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whatever social guy was in their next
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comes out he's like oh my god you guys
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have got to see this
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and you know this girl is very drunk she
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stumbles off you know with her pink high
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heels wavering on the carpet but
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everybody else at the party then one by
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one files into the bathroom to see that
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this girl has made an enormous two key
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so big like like wide like wide and long
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is a toilet filling DC and its limits
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but what's amazing about it in addition
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to just the massiveness of it is it is a
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one-piece Dukey so she 16 right yeah it
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is a it is like a boa constrictor
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Oh No in the toilet and everything you
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know in any other place that would be
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seen as extremely healthy right if I had
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made it to I still envy that do get
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think about it all the time I cock God
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if I could just that is an aspirational
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Dukey but her whole life was changed by
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one misstep she did not hit the flusher
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right and it's actually an initial signs
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did you file in course I saw the Dookie
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and these are her friends you know this
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isn't a case where some social girl came
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to a to like one of our parties and we
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were raked over the coals like these
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were her people
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these were her pals and she I remember
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her being kind of a pretty girl who was
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aspiring to to jump into a higher social
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class in high school or whatever choose
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issues just under the line for being one
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of the top girls as she saw it and this
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was just this plummeted her status
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because because it you can you see is
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she walking down the hall and there may
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be some guy with a mullet walking behind
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her holding his fingers 18 inches apart
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now over her head and it was just like
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think about all the times that that
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happened in high school I remember a guy
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of a really good friend of mine
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in eighth grade the story went around
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that he had a slumber party or a bunch
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of dudes bunch of the cool kids came
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over to his house and he was kind of one
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of them one of the kids on the fringe of
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the cool kid group and the next day at
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school it was contested that he that
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somebody will come in tonight and he was
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jacking it and all the kids within
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within before first period was out the
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entire school knew that this guy was
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jacking it at a slumber party with a
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bunch of his friends and I i found it at
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the time and i find it now impossible to
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believe that he was legitimately jacking
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it but even if he were he had to move he
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had to move and change his name him
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because he did he moved and changed his
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name is diis know i'm on facebook he
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still goes by a different name changed
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his name forever anyway this girl with
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the Dookie I was thinking about it the
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other day this was before people had
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cameras on their phones imagine now that
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would be it
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it'd be on the top of it be on the top
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of that i can eat cheeseburgers
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yeah yeah I gosh i'm at i can haz meme
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generator you know it's it's one thing
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if you fart you know it it's another
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thing if you miss speak your fly is down
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but you know for a guy i mean first of
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all I i have to say i can't believe you
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you you can't imagine somebody checking
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it at an overnight because you know i
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thought well i got anything i'm not
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gonna say anything but I mean that what
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are you saying that are you saying that
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circle jerking me was actually a thing
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now I'm not saying that all I'm saying
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the privacy of your own toilet moment if
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you needed to run a batch it that might
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be something you would do as a dude if
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you get caught that's
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you know that's kind of off limits but
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for a lady
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I just I can't eat I can't imagine
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anything worse if she were literally
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blowing the principal in the bathroom
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it would be nowhere near as bad as
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forgetting to flush h it and enviable
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Dukey and the big the biggest food that
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anybody's ever seen
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yes but i think but like light like so
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many things involving ND and status
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right then you think it's like kind of a
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complicated combination of language you
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I mean like you like anything you would
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go like oh it's like discovering that
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somebody makes two or three more zeroes
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than you thought they made every year my
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you'd go like who that person is rich in
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this case she has made a literally
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perfect Dukey at a party and you know
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let me sketch on Roderick how often have
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you made a perfect Dukey a party I
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should I pooped a party I pooped a party
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in la one time it was super complicated
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complicated
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yeah i was a multi-stage job oh how come
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back to that if you want I will
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literally circle back to that but but
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but but for a lady
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yeah and a at our time like no you don't
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want you don't want to show that you
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have any bodily functions of any kind if
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she had left bloody panties like
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literally on the cake
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it would be not as bad as it is as a has
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an enviable Dukey yeah now in contrast
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like early on in seventh grade in my
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biology class we were all sitting
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working on a problem at those big long
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black tables that if you put your finger
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on it for a long time it it makes a
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little sweat spot you know those black
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table Jesus biology yeah we got one of
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and I'm sitting sitting there working on
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a problem like we got a lab partner like
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you are too wide
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we're all sitting at the classes the
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class is deathly quiet you can hear a
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pin drop and i have and i feel that i
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have i have to make a fart and so I kind
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of you know I lift up one side of my
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bottom you provide an affordance III
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that's right I know if I for an exit
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area that mean it means acceptable means
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of ingress that's right now keep working
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on my project my part my black partners
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there and I proceeded to for whatever
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reason make the loudest fart was it
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flappy it was loud and long and perfect
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and now I recognizes it as the perfect
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part because all this i mean everything
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was set up biology class seventh-grade
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perfect silence hard wood chair i'm in
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the front row of the class there's
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nowhere to hide and I make a perfect
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30-second long super further and it was
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the situation whether the reaction was
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so instantaneous and also so perfect
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everybody like jumped back as if as if a
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cobra had sprung out of a half
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yeah chairs are falling back kids are
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like falling over each other to escape
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and it's all happening instantaneously
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like the sound wave hasn't even made it
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to the wall and kids are scrambling to
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get away from the blast zone slicks the
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girls are screaming and yelling and I
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and I remember I remember sitting there
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and there was no up there was no
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mortification because there was it was
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not possible
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like I couldn't be mortified in that
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moment because it had it was so far over
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it was so fun pat was no question that
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you have doubt it because the kids on
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either side of me flew away for me like
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they were they were at Ground Zero
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clamoring over tables to get away and I
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just SAT there continued writing may be
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paid no jets hear that he kind and just
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like owned it
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I i had the presence in seventh grade to
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own it with no I was not trying to
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pretend that i hadn't like I had a
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superior smirk on my face and just kept
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writing on my piece of paper and it was
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then then it was up to them so it was
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precisely like nothing happened but it
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was like oh that happened but i'm just
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going to keep moving
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oh it happened but and I mean the
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teachers sitting at her desk and I think
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maybe even she stood up and took a step
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back but then i can connect to write so
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how the burden the burden of proof the
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onus is on everyone else in the room
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like what are you going to do now
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right like you're all crowding against
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the walls what are you gonna do next
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yeah like eventually you have to take
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your seats again and i'm still just
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gonna be sitting here writing writing my
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assignment with the self-satisfied smile
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and eventually they did eventually they
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all like crept back cursing me and and
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you have better but it like it was
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bulletproof by the next day it was it
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was like the stuff of myth the stuff of
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myth and also liked it was it was a
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feather in my cap right i mean that's
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what you think is like a few things like
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receded in like tried to you know play
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it off legit and go like oh no it's
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actually like plotting your no plausible
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deniability
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youyou Delta you owned it if I face that
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even gotten Red I i would i would have
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been it would have been like
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I might as well cut off my hands on that
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is a career-defining was it was it was a
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it was a moment of self-knowledge I was
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like that's right that's right it's
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kinda sexy almost fell apart like this
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but as for any of you will ever hear or
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and any in you were there the whole time
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but for a lady uh i mean i have to feel
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like if this girl had stood in the door
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of the bathroom and send like and sold
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tickets for a dollar
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it would have been better for her than
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to just kind of stumbled out of the
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bathroom and drunkenly stumble away i
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dont no question there's a thousand ways
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that could have been better for her like
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if she if she had gone like hey guys
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and then shatter on a copy of escape by
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journey that would like a thousand times
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more hot that would've been hotter than
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like necking with the second cutest girl
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but then the fact that she space the
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flushing he oh my god that's miserable I
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i I'm not gonna leave that off of that's
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oh yeah so yeah it just goes to show i'm
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not sure what it goes to show flush you
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know what they say you know in music you
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know if you had a clam
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oh yeah do it three times its apart i
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think that's the only smoke that said
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that literally only wants to clamp into
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three times it's a it's a bit but you
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know that like you know I i learned this
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too late but they would say that you
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know if you had a clam
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I don't make a face right like if you if
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you hit like a and you know i have
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stepped off on an important part that
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everybody can hear like don't make a
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face you know because a lot of people
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yeah well and there's a hit an
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interesting adjunct to that story my
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good friend david bazan who is now a
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friend of yours also david bazan who
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tells a story when he was a young man
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playing the drums in like and he was
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even a drummer who backed up
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church music at his because his father
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was a music pastor right and so Dave
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started out his career as a as a drum
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teenage drummer behind all these people
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singing and playing in church and he
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said he was playing drums behind some
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some singer in in a church band who was
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really cheesy singer and really pretty
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bad and after the you know after the
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performance he walks off stage and his
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mom grabs him by the shirt and she says
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you were you were behind the drums
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making faces at that singer when the
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singer couldn't hit when the singer mr.
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you would make a grimace and you can
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never ever ever do that and tables like
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oh I was just like and I was so awful
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that I couldn't she was like you can
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never ever when you're onstage make a
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face when someone misses the note like
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that your job if you have any job it is
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to stand up there and present not only
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your own flubs as you know as
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professionally as you can but like you
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are representing that singer you are
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representing yourself and everything
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while you're up there you're there to
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support them its kind of the poor shape
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for axiom or like you can make a face to
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like support them and go wow that was
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really rocking but no no ugly face no no
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no shit face because it becomes like a
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like a footnote like a really really
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yeah exactly
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for Dave one of my Saturday night people
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so it's a very emotional face
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I mean I think it's think Dave it's you
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know I'm the super tight with him but I
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i enjoy this stuff a lot when I watch
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him perform
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I mean it seems like he gets very
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involved in the music he's into it but
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he's not making like guitar face he's
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not making library look at me i'm like
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hitting up you know I'm bending five you
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know like he's he's like involved in the
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music and it seems like a bet it was
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kind of involuntary he was he was making
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in other words he was not making a
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deliberate comment on the flatness
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sharpness or badness of the singer he
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was just like playing the song right i
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mean it wasn't like he was trying to
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undermine know a thing about this is why
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I can't go to karaoke like sitting and
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karaoke performance I feel like I feel
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like lemmiwinks is up my butt huh
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I am so uncomfortable with it when
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people sing flat that that it's
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reflexive like my shoulders so I was
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saying I'm gonna improv if I could
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improv and somebody was okay i'm gonna
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need something involving a toilet and a
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pizza delivery ok got that and and when
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and when it becomes uncomfortable I rock
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even if I'm not medicated I rock back
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and forth and have this like really any
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your head on the wall
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well now it's worse getting back with
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Lisa that I seem crazy but I rock back
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and forth with a fake smile on my face
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because I'm feeling every scintilla of
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putting liquor board a smile like you
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know what's bad is you like so with the
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karaoke or was performing like you feel
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bad for the person because they may not
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be fully aware that that's the thing
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they're having a great time right like
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you're feeling so you're feeling
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sympathy for them and they are they
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require no sympathy i said so I stay out
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of that stuff I just think I've been
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admonished by the judge in my case not
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not not to like discuss what's going on
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the case but i will tell you that
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on a couple three occasions today I had
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to pass by the family court area where
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the like legal assistance area and there
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was a one be home woman standing sitting
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there was a lot of bags and she was
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there to get some extra help with her
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meds and she I was singing 99 red
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balloons by nina in german or english
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english and the canonical version but ok
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sir she did not know all the words and
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just she was even like I'm a sharp
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singer she was super flat singer and if
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I could say shot Broderick she didn't
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know all the words and she could sing it
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over over lot of mothers amount so my
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only thought I have been admonished
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about this i shared this with some other
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jury members that you know if you're
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gonna be a crazy homeless lady singing
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Nina over and literally over like at
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least know the words it's okay they're a
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little flat and know the words but right
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i mean will give you a pass but she was
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improving some words based on what she
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was seeing in the court or whatever she
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was getting just getting just enough
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wrong that like a casual observer would
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go oh you kinda don't know the words to
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that song she just doing the captain
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kirk verse over and over
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no I mean I can't really I don't
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impersonate her because you know of
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admonishments right but what up
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are you telling me that the judge in
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this case has singled you out for
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personal admonishment III can't know
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what I couldn't say it's like the NSA
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it's like one of those you know it's
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like one of those things you get were
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like you can't you can't say if you've
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received the letter where you can't say
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what you can't say yes I understand
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no I don't wanna you know what from the
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bench he has pointed his gavel he or she
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has pointed in his or gavel a thank-you
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and said you you let me just explain the
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juror number eight or otherwise
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uh-oh they're gonna love you in the jury
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room during deliberations god I'm so
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gonna be like that the cherry
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somebody's appeal I can feel it already
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but walking by you your honor
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I don't want to go to a party that one
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of the judges have you you little Oh
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transcript of a podcast about what you
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here's the thing like you so you don't
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think like that song look if it's louie
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louie if it's a faithfully like whatever
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it is like just if you're going to sing
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it over and over get it right but nobody
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knows the lyrics to Louie you just
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picked the classic example of a song
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that no one can sing properly
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yeah but if you put your heart in it and
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like do the intonation and try not to be
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too flat and I i don't know i think that
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that song 99 loose balloons yeah i mean
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that that tells a that's a long involved
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yeah I'm not surprised she doesn't know
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all the words I'm just surprised that I
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don't think it's gonna happen sorry i
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don't think it's going to help her get
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prozac though they did she look a little
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bit like John I literally cannot get
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into this usually there she was the hair
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with another guy who had binoculars and
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well and he was wearing lots of like
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roots rock reggae kind of colors like he
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had less like like like red golden-green
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did he have to be about Bob like Black
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Bart Simpson shirt on
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that's over to block the stand and
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wearing a giant like afrika bambaataa
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necklace looks like a deal with soul
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necklace now nothing like that now it
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will have got John I haven't slept
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um you know what I'm going to say is
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that that that there is a if I could say
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I'm not a miller scholar as you know but
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there's a crucible that happens in high
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school it starts in junior high because
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in highschool did you just complete the
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words crucial and crucible crucible and
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sick then is it wrong with how to
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pronounce one went on a rider how do you
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say that
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start over gentlemen but it's late it's
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late is it our brother Henry Miller
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surrounded
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by actor / empty pill bottles of john
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III you know what I was a crucible
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literally don't get me started on empty
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pill bottles right now but the income
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that's why they're going to appeal that
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case they're good
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jurors Roman citizen wastebasket this is
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that so
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o-katsu i'm gonna go ahead and oh
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follow 325 objection juror number eight
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has not been able to visit you sue o a
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psychiatrist to refill his schedule one
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prescription
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haha oh and he's reading clearly read
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new spider-man comics so this woman
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she's she's there and look like Margot
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Kidder doesn't she
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not not too late i'm picturing
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late-stage Margo can share
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yeah now-now ever feel you i ran into
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Margot Kidder in a sushi restaurant in
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your house and it
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no she was getting sushi she was there
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in Chile with the dismemberment play in
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your ass
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yeah you always complicated that sorry I
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so wishing machine seattle at the cargo
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carrier was in New York City of Canton
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okay really okay in a little italy just
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give me a general sense of what are we
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talking about like post-2000 but bigger
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in about to them
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ok so as they say in Northern Ireland it
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was during the problems it was during
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the problem area and she she had some
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said some leaves in her hair she she had
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I think she was think she was missing
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the tooth or two
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oh no John you know park that is it was
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pretty was too pretty yeah John people
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judge you when you are missing a tooth
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yeah she has she has come all the way
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back i think it for you Margo yeah I bet
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she knows all the listening keep going
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out here more haha well you know I don't
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like a lot safer Robert Downey when we
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come back to that I feel like I feel
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like she's gotta be missing
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teeth I feel like I feel like in what
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what what why do I say that just in
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terms of I understand if you have an
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objection regarding relevance or
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foundation i'm literally exhausted
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um but it when it did you know Margot
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Kidder dated pierre trudeau I'm sorry I
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didn't hear that Margot Kidder that was
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a hearing a joke i did not know that i
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did and i don't have a cat micelles not
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here right now let me good for you can
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thank you up
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John hang on Margot Kidder you're
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telling me literally marketer who seems
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like she should have been in some
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Cassavetes films but it wasn't like
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she's got that kind of Cassidy's feel
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but we mainly know her from a Superman
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yeah right and kind of seeming like the
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cute girl in Raiders of the Lost Ark but
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not really what was that not that
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somebody less karenallen that's Karen
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Allen oh yes she's cute and raiders of
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the lost ark yeah it'sit's conflation
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yeah anyway I so so anyway yeah well she
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filmmaker at home thinking of up just
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got here in Franklin County French
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filmmaker here to Del Rio Chico and
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which ones margaux hemingway margaux
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shoes in lipstick i think so anyway are
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multiple but that's right Margaux
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Hemingway was that was Woody Allen
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and here's the other thing what I'm
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realizing is that Allah your uh epochal
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fart and the Dookie of the famous girl
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little of my life worrying about how it
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would look in court you know I'm saying
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asking me like what I quote on quote
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unquote do right and I you know I slept
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it off and go you know like i always say
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i have two answers to what I do you
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your services that's but that's right
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care i say i do things with computers
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yeah I've heard you say that you're a
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ceramicist people have you really heard
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that yeah and watch the nod yes I think
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people don't believe actually actually
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say that I think I I generally get the
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sense that you are going to say only two
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people who are not who you can tell are
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not already not listening
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what's the same problem you run into
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corridors of power might be mixed
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metaphor but you run into people who
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slideshow with the african-american kids
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right you you run into people who want
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to suss out whether they should be
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talking to you are you an entrepreneur
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hmm we're all entrepreneurs Pyramus
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serial entrepreneur my problem is like
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my entire life is not structured around
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any aspect of having a straight ahead
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yeah yeah no not by design it's just
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that you know we're setting aside my
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liberal artistic pneus like it's really
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hard for me to explain all kinds of
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things and yeah I just I I never process
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what I do
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ok so here's here's one admission
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I'm going to allow this it is that
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stop what's happening right now because
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as a father now I sometimes wonder
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whether this clip here on a forum in an
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emergency room sometimes i will think
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like how will this look if I have to
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explain this in a victory end of the
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forms they don't give you a large area
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say and so I don't want to have to
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explain things because i rarely can and
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let alone my job let alone in decision i
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made like the worst feeling like like
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what do you say when people ask you what
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you do I mean II dt just say rockstar
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like what he say well this is the thing
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as you as you probably can guess I've
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spent my entire life prepared to at any
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moment be put on the stand in a capital
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murder case
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damn glad about you grew up knowing
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knowing that you could somebody be
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called to a Senate hearing where they
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would say listen listen we're fast
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tracking you for this I cannot promise
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you this going anywhere but you might be
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the head of the CIA
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yeah that one get on assessment tonight
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right right assessment citation at which
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point i would put my hand over the
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microphone and I would consult my
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attorney and then that would come back
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look back and say I Ozai also senator
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own stock in AT&T and IBM and we're
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Hauser timber whatever you know you have
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to have they bring in your brother from
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Sicily appearance in the courtroom makes
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you so unhinged but you say well I was
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the olive oil
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gotta love you so much but in any case
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yes there's two things that I'm always
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prepared for at any moment are to be
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subpoenaed what
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and also to go to prison so it's more
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than packing that small bag like you're
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really you're ready i'm ready and one of
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the one of the one of the ways that i
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have i maintain that readiness
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particularly in the case of going to
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prison is that I have never read
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Shakespeare sonnets because I'm saving
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them for prison unique you need to know
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where you're going to read in prison
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ok in order to have your your whole like
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a phoenix rising from the ashes story
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you've got something to look forward to
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yeah Malcolm X read the dictionary in
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prison and that is bullshit first of all
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but second of all that's like that made
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yeah that made that my autobiography of
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malcolm x
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point of them that's the crux like you
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think that Alex Haley imagining that if
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he were in prison with all due respect
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to literally everyone involved right
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that's out to healthy imagining that he
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might read the dictionary but in but
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that had a profound effect on me when I
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was whatever however old I read it and I
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was like what am I going to read when i
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go to prison I i should think about that
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that's right and I said what what you
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can't just come out of prison and say
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like yeah I read a lot of dashiell
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hammett or I read a lot of i read in
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Style magazine when I can't get it right
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I went down to the prison library every
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week and got like three national
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Geographics and Henry Huggins like no
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you have to go into prison with the
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knowledge that you are there and you're
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going to read X and in my case in my
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case it's all its it's all Shakespeare
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from start to finish and ives i have
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intentionally i never took a Shakespeare
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class in college for this very reason
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you're keeping your powder dry
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that's exactly honest I I don't want to
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give up your game here but it seems to
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yes you're preparing a little reading
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list for literally when you are perhaps
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unjustly blame that matter the point is
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absolutely and i will be will I will I
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will have been framed clear which is all
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the more reason to know what you want to
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say you read while you were in prison
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right right so so yes you will set aside
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some of these sites which are actually i
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don't want no spoilers but they're
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actually not that good bye
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you will come out saying I've learned a
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lot about myself and I've learned a
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lesson about love
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that's right all right all Shakespeare's
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I read everything i read Shakespeare
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from front to back you know I haven't
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been able to avoid reading Shakespeare
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I've tried but I mean I've had to do it
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but i have saved a large portions of it
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for president now as for as for the the
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subpoena that could come at any moment
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this is the this is the this is a
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corollary abhi of the lie detector
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question which is do you think you could
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fool a lie detector
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oh do you think way too many women
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backup so f lee Bailey says to you
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counselor
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do you think you could fool a lie
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detector and you're ready for that you
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have the yeah you have to have an answer
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can these are so go ahead
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yes it's so number one he get your
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reading list you get the ring was for
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prison where you're going on a frame-up
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job but while you're sitting on while
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you are testifying cord you have to like
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we all know the wrong way to do is we
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all know that you know you you don't
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break down on the standard admit you
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committed the crime who you don't look
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too smug you know you have to have to be
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personable
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I mean I'm telling you Europe you're
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sitting juror you know what it's like
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I'm sure that the defendant China I
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couldn't say if I knew haha i'm just now
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i know that i have heard it is said yeah
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that conduct during the trial he it is
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said it is said that
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it is up to us to decide what evidence
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we will believe in all or in part and it
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is said that we that's the royal we know
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you can also consider like how somebody
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behaved in the trial which is generally
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stupid if you behave you generally don't
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know things you will tend to do better
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really really I'm it as opposed to
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present this again in a week as opposed
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to appearing like like a smug guy who's
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running who's got all the answers
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well you know you're the ones thought
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this out but i'm just gonna say if you
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said that yeah I know that like let like
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like 40 times around you go door
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yeah that's gonna be problematic if you
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keep your dick you will repeat the
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question I was distracted by the fucking
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fluorescent lights you would you want
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you want to get you want to get on there
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and you want to be a homespun get it
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even very even
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nice nice nice perfect whatever persona
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you you have it has to be plausible it
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is said you gotta stick with it right
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it has to give you lots of wiggle room
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for being a dumb s like we should
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usually gotta go
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I can read but i'm confused that Ronald
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Reagan popularized that defense
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yes he barely remembered anything right
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and then you know the iran-contra thing
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like you're either in a stupid or
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incompetent
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yeah let the jury figure that out is it
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is said a jury decide you know how how
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much on appeal this this podcast is
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going to be problematic up but that's
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the wonderful thing about this podcast
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we very seldom make any reference to
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that's right as simply as you like to
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say you like them to be evergreen yeah
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so we did so really anytime after
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October of 1986 people will still enjoy
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this even though is literally recorded
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it so so the speed comes along
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you're ready you got a bag packed you
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can get a Cessna Citation yeah is that a
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safe plane some citations yeah that's
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the same plane
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how far can go with that the beechcraft
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baron let me rephrase the question
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to your knowledge yeah if you were in
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the continental United States
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how far do you think strike that you're
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ready you got the subpoena subpoena
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comes along and what's your preparation
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oh my preparation I mean well you know I
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mean anything like Rachel like they're
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they show up at the door and it's just
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like I don't buy that I'm sorry
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counselor I'm gonna object that is
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unresponsive because it seems to me that
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you must have thought through
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yeah if you're taking a pattern if I may
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say as large as subpoena arrives you
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thought about a general kind of
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comportment because you have literally
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no if I could say fucking idea what
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they're going to subpoena you for the
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main selling it's like Benjamin Benjamin
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Benjamin Franklin and spanking right him
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every day but if you don't know if you
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don't know what it's for they will write
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so the spanking of the subpoena you get
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on something called a citation you show
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up you borrow a tie you sit down like a
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fucking gentleman right and you're ready
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for anything but here there's four
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possibilities one
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ok we're not guilty and through your
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actions you appear not guilty to your
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interrogators to you are not guilty but
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through some miss action on your part
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you appear guilty to your interrogators
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or either either through some poor
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action on your part or through prejudice
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of on their part they say number two is
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like the seeds of a frame of yeah they
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discern guilt where there is not and you
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you in your innocence are unable to
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dislodge them from this misapprehension
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third possibility is that you are guilty
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but succeed in appearing innocent and
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the fourth obviously is that you are
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guilty and fail to appear innocent can
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so in these subpoenas scenarios i have
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no idea which one
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well I have no idea whether first of all
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I'm innocent or guilty of what they're
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accusing me of
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because it's very possible that I'm
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I think spending a lot of time I number
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with all due respect to the lady in the
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bathroom spending a good amount of time
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and number two
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preparation is a pretty good idea yes
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because number one number one what
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you're really saying is like I've been
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called in here and I'm not your guy like
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you're wasting your time on me because
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even if you prove what you're trying to
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prove I you will not prove enough like
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it actually didn't do it and I'm not
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that interesting of for all four
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scenarios what you are aspiring to
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appear to be is the guy in the first
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scenario right in in all in it if you
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are if you are not guilty and and you
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are and you appear not guilty right that
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is what you want to look like even if
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you are totally guilty so everybody's
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trying everybody's reflecting back to
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guy number one and trying to imagine how
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they can act like him
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how do you act not guilty but more than
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not guilty
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guy number one is not guilty and he
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shouldn't even be there right
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not guilty Man's important right not
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only not 7200 i'm raising an eyebrow
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because I clearly guy number two
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seems like our guy let's hear what he
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has to say
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number one is is you go like clearly
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this person is you know incapable of
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this or there's so much mitigating
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evidence that this person is like all
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sorry like into questions you like with
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all due respect your retard
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let's move on to like a two three or
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four well the other the other night i'm
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driving home I got I got rooked into
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going to see this dumb fast and furious
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movie this recent one and i have never
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been to see any of the other Fast and
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Furious movies so I had no context for
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other than I understood that they were
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going to go fast and that they were
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furious
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and so I go to this thing and it's
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insensible it's just a bunch of their
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action sequences strung together with
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with some like like all the actors
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appeared to be wearing would underpants
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and there you know and they're reading
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their reading the bottom back of a
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cereal box allowed that someone's
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holding up right off right off camera
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and then they get in a car there and
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then it's a good it's exciting for 10
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minutes but i'm driving home from the
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theater it's two o'clock in the morning
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i'm in my hot little car have a little
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hot car and I Drive sometimes and i'm
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driving along and I'm like you know I've
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just watched a movie where people are
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really really driving their cars fast
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and i have that in me too but i know and
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i know on those stretch from downtown to
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my house I know all the places where the
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state troopers hide i'm driving Alana
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and I and I just get this feeling like
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what if I just say screw the troopers
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and just drive like a bat out of hell
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and so I'm driving along and I'm
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imagining I'm imagining one then two
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then three troopers in hot pursuit of me
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and I'm thinking to myself now if I'm
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gonna lose these troopers in you know
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troopers know all the back roads to
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troopers know a lot of troopers know a
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lot of the stuff that I know but you
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know no one expects the Spanish
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Inquisition and the troopers are not
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expecting me in my hot little car
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because you know I grew up driving on
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ice so I understand how to drift if you
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get my drift
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yeah but they get they get like a cop
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engine cop shocks cop suspensions yeah
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they do they need a cigarette lighter
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but they have all that other stuff and
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I'm thinking how am I going to get away
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from these troopers and you know if
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there's a lot of like
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you're counting on blind corners where
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you can cig and then you know Zig up and
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then zap over and then cut you're cut
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your lights and hope that they keep
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going straight you have ended up a
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hopeful cornfield a and I was and I was
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practicing that I was practicing the
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routes that I would take home if I were
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being pursued by cops and I felt pretty
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good about my chances
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pulling up at my point of my house
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cutting the engine getting out and
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making it into the inside before they
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started doing block-to-block searches
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you know what I mean like they would
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know they wouldn't know in a short
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amount of time that that I had that I
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was in a certain area and then they
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would just start going block-to-block
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but my hot little car is a kind of
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anonymous car it so there are so many of
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out-of-the-world it's like it's like you
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know as your counsel i'm going to say
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don't say anymore right but you've got a
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star that is is plausibly capable of
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arousing the interest of a cop right and
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Chinese got that that the means the
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motive and the opportunity to drive fast
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as a practice run right
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ok so I'm sitting in my house now and
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now I'm rehearsing knock on the door now
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you're gonna open that door right and
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there's going to be a really angry
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couple of state troopers standing on the
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porch and they have come down your block
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with their spotlight on they found your
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car that gotten out they put their hands
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on the hood and it is hot
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yep encyclopedia brown and how they're
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standing on your front porch and they
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and you are here standing there in your
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bathrobe let's say what what and you are
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saying good evening
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can I help you mhm now how you play that
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because they have not
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there's no they cannot prove that that
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was you they didn't get your license
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number and they're trying to say that
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because you are let's say driving a
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green subaru outback with that has
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recently been running that you're there
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guy and you are going to stand on the
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porch and say well they're green subaru
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outback everywhere its kind of this is
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so what a suspicious thing to say but
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you're not going to say that because
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that's not the first thing out of your
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mouth they're going to cuff you right
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away right if you've thought about it so
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you have to stand there and go through
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the dance with them will have to be
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confused and scared clatters is there
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yeah that's right confused and scared
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but how how to act confused and scared
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in your bathrobe in the night and how to
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gradually make the transition to a kind
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of indignant like are you accusing me of
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something
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yeah I'm a homeowner right and then make
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it all the way to
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well I you know I like to help the
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police as much as I can but I don't like
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your tone sir
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like how to get how to smooth that all
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the way from one from like what with the
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knot with the certain knowledge that you
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are guilty you know and you're standing
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there in your bathrobe
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as a as as a plus play-acting boy that's
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a that stuff you've got to be a real
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you-know-what you gotta rehearse that
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you do you have to practice it right
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side so I'm so I practicing it all the
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time so if it i mean you know i
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mentioned and sex maybe your breath on
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because that is truly one of the great
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one of the great stories
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yeah you know if you can put your baby
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on the hood of the car it's obviously
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not been driven so they come out they
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feel your hood if I could say yeah and
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they go
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this is somebody worth talking to that's
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right that's right right so that not he
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fits the criteria like he's within his
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five block area is a his apostle his
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super or similar right is hot it's hot
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and so now you're your job is to
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obfuscate that's right you know we're
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gonna cut all this out but I mean you
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know what idea might be to keep some
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some Marlboros and diapers by the door
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uh-huh and just said well yeah obviously
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we're gonna be wearing a bathrobe i went
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to the store what's the matter
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no now here's the thing you show up with
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in your bathroom with a fake baby or not
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in your arms and you say oh I know what
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this is about
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I forgot to pay for these diapers or
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snickers bars uh interesting because you
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know what red herring
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yeah red herring said that you think you
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can you get a reason like I'm nervous
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I'm nervous because I feel like a bad
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person because knowing you you've got a
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baby in your arm and you open the door
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you say what did that bitch say i did
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now right and they're like what and
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you're like oh my god classic misdirect
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she won't get off my jock nah mi right
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she won't get off my jock nah mi right
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yeah did I ever tell you about the time
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I tried to run from the cops know just I
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don't like you have actually tried to
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run from economy in here so is back in
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the eighties and this guy I knew in
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spokane who who's his dad recently died
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and he bought a brand-new 4runner toyota
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4runner which was the coolest car any of
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us could think of at the time you know
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because that was during the era when we
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like we were like mountain ski bum types
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i was a mountain ski ski bum s aspirin
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it's like a sexy mini mini van meets a
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range rover that's like a
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four-wheel-drive but i but i'm still the
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the original 4runners are still small
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scale so that they felt like a it felt
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seated four or six people you know it
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was kind of like the proto SUV before
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there was such a thing as an SUV and he
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said that he was going over to to
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seattle we were in spokane he was going
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over to Seattle because he wanted to see
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a show a rock show
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1988 and I have spent years trying to
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figure out what rock show it was because
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in 1988 in seattle dis kid's book and
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wants to make the trip over the
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mountains to see this rock show at the
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central tavern it had to have been some
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amazing Rock Show and at the time I
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didn't recognize the name of the band I
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was just like oh you're going to seattle
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like can I tag along and he's like yeah
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sure you can set you know you can split
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the driving with me
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and so we head out of spokane but for
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whatever reason we don't take the
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interstate we take the we take the small
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road we take the the upper road which is
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like two lane highway rolled the other
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the the blue highways has a has a
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billion at all says that's right we take
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the blue highways that's actually a book
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blue highways about about taking the
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blue highways anyway we're driving and
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we're driving it gets it gets to be
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night it turns out that taking the blue
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highways was a bad idea because what
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what was a five hour drive to seattle
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became like an 11-hour drive because we
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were stopping all these one-horse towns
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for their one style and it stopped like
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they're monitoring yeah and so in a
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certain point this guy's name was chris
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he says I'm gonna climb in the back and
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try and get some sleep you drive and I'm
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like okay I'm driving so here we go
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we're gonna make up some time and we're
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going across the Cascade Mountains and
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I'm kind of putting them you know put
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the pedal down as we say and there and
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the fog is coming in and it's nighttime
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and we're going through this little
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mountain road and we come through this
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town little like you know wide spot in
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the road kind of town and I'm i'm kinda
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haulin ass and it's one of these towns
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where the speed limit drop down to 25
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right and i'm still at 65 and I blow by
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this cop and I look at him and he looks
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at me and we look at each other might
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like you're smoking the bending moment I
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did kind of right absolutely i look at
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it and he actually throws hat you he's
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he was I mean it was the type of thing
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where you like a cake did a spit-take of
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his sandwich he spilled his coffee in
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his lap and he was like don't those Duke
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boys and I said fuck it and I spy
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florida and i'm like it's foggy it's
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nighttime
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I'm a four-wheel-drive truck the odds
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are on my
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inside I i I'm a four-wheel-drive truck
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i'm 19 like I've got this and so I stay
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on the highway for a little bit haulin
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ass and as soon as i can start to see
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his his flashers is rollers like in the
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distance like reflecting off the fog in
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my rearview mirror I hang a right off of
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the main road onto like a dirtside road
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which leads back into a kind of like
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side part of this town and I go up three
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blocks over two blocks take a left and
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pull in and I'm trying I'm gonna pull
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into the driveway of a house
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kill the lights but i kinda pull in to
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the front yard of this house and I kill
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the lights
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I pull the emergency brake & duck and
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duck my head now and Chris in the back
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still asleep and I sit there for like
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123 and then cop from the left cop from
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the right cops in every direction
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cops everywhere and i had failed to lose
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these cops God and so they get me out of
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the car super mad and they say what the
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you know like what's your story and i
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say my story was I didn't see him I was
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just driving and I was going a little
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fast because I really had to pee and I
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pulled off the road looking for a place
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to pee and i ended up so I need to pee
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so bad that I stayed stopped here and
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the cop said he's pulled up on the
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person's lon
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he you're driving in the mountains and
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you went into a town and at four blocks
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in three blocks over and pull down real
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persons long to be that's your story he
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said you look me in the eye and I said I
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did I swear to you I didn't see you i
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was just very distracted by meeting to
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pee and so they pull Chris out on the
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back of the truck you know
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out of a deep sleep so he was asleep for
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the end it's exactly entire chase he
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wakes up surrounded by cops now and it's
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his he's got the title on that it's his
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truck and the cop says what's this guy's
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well who's that who's the driver how do
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you know him and chris said I John
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something I'm not sure
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and the cops like you don't know this
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guy and he's like well I mean not really
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he's the Chris was like a scandalous key
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was a skater dude and kind of students
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didn't say a lot so he was given the cop
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one word answers but but it and I didn't
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realize like Chris had no idea what my
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name was John Jim Joe and so I sit there
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and just stick to my guns stick to this
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like Ludacris story that I was just
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looking for a place to be man and I
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swear I said you know like I would never
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run from the cops
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what am i stupid and event and this
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thick coat the carpet that looked at me
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he was a plastic with rage but there was
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no there was no pic you know that they
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really they tried to pull a good cop bad
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cop thing and eventually I heard the one
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saying like there's nothing we can do
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about it you just have to let it go
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really and they gave me a ticket for
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speeding
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happy they had me on the radar and then
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and they said they told chris not to let
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me drive anymore
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that's so fruity I can't believe it and
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run you in we drove away
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yes crazy yeah let me off when you know
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years later that would have been like
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one of the three strikes during the
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three strike years
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sure evading what would you do
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differently today I mean you know given
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the same that lets say you for whatever
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reason really had to get similar and you
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know you had your reasons it was
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Cannonball Run let's say yeah
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yet the year always occurs as the new
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yorker would say that yet i really get
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it somewhere
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Roger Moore hello and and so he will
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look for whatever reason you have you
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had your reasons you're driving fast
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maybe had to get to a show or whatever
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right or a blog
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I into a blog here had to get to a blog
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you're driving a vast yeah what would
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you do differently today like starting
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starting at the whole like I'm on the
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open road does it begin with like I'm a
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grown man and I don't have to drive fast
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or yeah yeah i think that i have i have
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dealt with speed traps you know during
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that during the the touring years where
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I was you know doing tens of thousands
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of miles of highway time a year the
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whole speed trap game is just not one
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that it's just not worth rolling the
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dice on oh that does this really add up
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yeah you just you roll into West Texas
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and as dumb as it is you just know that
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you're you're gonna go 55 for a while
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this happens in Florida whenever when I
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would go on like I 75 or you know US 19
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or whatever you would you get that I
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think what you're describing if I hear
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you correctly counselor is that like you
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would suddenly go from 55 or I guess
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what's the upper speed limit like 70 I
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don't Alice now I think it's 70 years
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ago that's 80 maybe some places in
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Wyoming but have been in florida it
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would not be unusual to go from whatever
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the upper limit is two like here's a
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little sign to let you know it's a 55
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and here's this one that's really hard
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to see about how it's now 10
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yeah that's sign beside behind a large
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rhododendron right exactly and then you
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get the blinking red light which you
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know kind of says you know and it's a
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pretty light
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let's be honest be honest and you see
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skate through it and what I mean you
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know your I think there's first of all a
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lot of people to legitimately have to
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yes they want to get the to the cracker
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barrel it's a real problem they want to
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get a tarpaulin at the walmart whatever
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reason and i'm not here to judge i'm not
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an expert we're making a campsite maybe
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they're camping with their RV many
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tarpaulin maybe they need to cut some
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trail but they the point is that that
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does happen like for people who don't
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travel like that's a real thing that the
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like from like
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maximum speed limit to easily bustable
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speed limit
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maybe like half a mile or a mile yeah
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and I don't mess around with him anymore
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i just i see this because i've been i've
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been nailed in so many speed traps
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somewhere i have tried to run from the
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cops somewhere have mostly I have not
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but that's not your margins are not huge
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right like you cannot afford a
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two-hundred-dollar ticket
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well the famous story the first time I
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ever met not a surf they got both over
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they were smoking in France you have
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pulled over and once the out in West
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Texas and the the cop walked up and he
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was in that you know in the end IRA the
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drummer roll down the window and couples
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like all right boy I can smell the
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reefer so either I get a bunch of dogs
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out here and we go through your whole
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truck and car and everything and I find
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it and then i'm out i'm not gonna be a
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gentle harder easy dreadlock that's
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right or you can just tell me you show
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me the pot right now land IRA in his
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stone drummer dumbness was like okay
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here's our pot about the bank bottle
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summer everybody out of a van and he put
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them in jail no in stripy pajamas with
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this lease right hotshot with tents
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maybe put him in striped pajamas with
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the little stripy pillbox hat that's
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flat and they were on their way to
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austin to play you know to play Big Show
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right time and we're going to play
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together and and I'm sorry John
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they've got has like folded up and just
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sitting around
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yeah it's not something where you go to
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like so here's the thing there's jail is
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prison counselor get like the jail which
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is a place where you go for a sub felony
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offense for usually if i understand
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correctly counselor less than a year and
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then present prison is a put this
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program
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what uh-huh you go to a place then when
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once you're sentenced and eat in prison
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is where you go to serve your term and
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like if you're in some place like that
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you know crazy guy in Arizona
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no you sleep in a tent and give your
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pink clothes but like my sense once you
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be mainly where cities when you're in
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like overnight jail
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yeah i mean they don't ya when overnight
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jail usually the resources just working
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jamas know these were humiliation
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pajamas
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these were these were stripy jail
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pajamas so that they could take your
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picture it there with their little the
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little pillbox hat on
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they can take your picture and laugh and
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laugh and laugh I'm sure they have photo
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albums at that jail
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oh I'm am sure they put Willie Nelson in
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those i'm sure they put everybody in
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numbers but I'm sure you got a picture
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of her head faced alec baldwin right
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foot on this brassiere
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here you go boy change into these wait
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gonna take no risk to you hang yourself
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with it that's a jailbird shoelaces
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so the next night were all waiting at
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the show with the venue like are they
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gonna make it are they not you know they
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had to build themselves out of this
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fuckin Jail this West Texas chill so I
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don't mess around with speed traps I
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just slow the fuck down that's what they
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want only to buy I think very carefully
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have already grown because because like
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I don't have a giant sense of this and
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like I I what I do know is this that
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whatever your plan
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I should not even say this because this
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might be admissible counselor but
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whatever your plan is it should be up a
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plan that comports with your default
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freakout nature and your default
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freakout nature is you clam up like
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that's ok but for me my default clam up
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nature might be like your friend the
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drummer which is like Doug here's what I
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did wrong and ok right you're right I
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killed her
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okay so you got me you got me Cletus but
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like what if you and I don't know if you
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have this kind of control or access but
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what you literally shat yourself like as
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your king pulled over now you may call
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that the ted nugent thank you
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we're done here
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