Ep. 87: "I Speak Sea Plane"
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hi Merlin are you early hehe i read that
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on a card i was going to ask you how
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you're adjusting to these increasingly
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early recording times I liked him as i
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get older and older it's nice to spend
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to get up a little early i like to have
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the evenings free to move my bowels
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mmm i had a very interesting experience
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today i went to my taco bus where I
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normally go but usually at night you go
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to the taco bus and it's just all
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Volvo's lined up out front it's just
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people in in little software designer
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glasses with that with fleece pants and
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they're all lined up to get tacos but
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during the day you at lunchtime and it's
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it's all guys covered in sheetrock dust
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Wow right everybody in there is Hispanic
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the TV is playing or I guess I guess
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Latino is the preferred nomenclature the
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TV is playing some some novellas and a
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it's a it's a real it's real downtown
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scene during the day well I walk on the
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bus and I'm carrying my daughter and I
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have never felt like such a rockstar in
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my life because you know usually get on
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a bus and there's like 15 middle aged
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mexican guys on there you know maybe
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you're going to hear you're gonna nod to
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a couple of guys as you walk through but
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for the most part it's going to be a you
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know it's going to be a pretty neutral
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scene but I walked on the bus carrying
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this little two-year-old and every man
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on the bus smiled at me with the most
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genuine smile of friendship and
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and I was like completely bowled over
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you know you hear stories that that in
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the in Mexican culture and Latino
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culture that the role of the father the
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idea of the family is very strong but
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had never experienced it so profoundly
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walking walking carrying a little girl I
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felt like I would have felt like I was
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walking through a receiving line I
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almost high-fived everybody with your
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free hand and it was so them and the
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thing is they weren't like looking at
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her like oh what a cute girl like a lot
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of like you know kind of the volvo set
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would they glanced at her and then they
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looked at me and were like hey man how's
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it going dad and I just I felt like yeah
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hey what's up I'm a dad and that is a
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that is a that's a nice thing that's i'm
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a member of the community I'm known as
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the guys that that we know in neutral
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way never would have given you a second
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look before yeah we would have all just
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kind of been like not supposed to be
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talking is that you know if that if they
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would have looked up from their food but
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the fact that i had this little girl
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like big they turned one after the other
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turned from their food and gave me like
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a really human genuine like greeting of
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happy face and I was like wow it's like
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you're part of the fraternity now it is
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like I yeah it's like i'm a i'm a i'm a
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i'm a fully grown adults it took me all
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these years but now I I'm initiated into
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it's like it's like when you first grow
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a mustache and go to Turkey who you
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realize oh outside of America every
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grown man in the world is wearing a
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mustache like if you get from basically
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from Bucharest all the way to China
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every single man in that area has a
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mustache and then in china again we go
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back to a mustache 'less world
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butBut from Bucharest to say
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islamabad it's it's almost ashes all the
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way down and you feel like you know when
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you go to those places are like oh shit
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right you did hehe you can grow
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moustache and you do thats they probably
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invented the mustache but yeah I'm sure
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they did you think about how cultures
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work in you know places where you can
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grow corn you're likely to discover corn
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and then make stuff out of corn and you
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become like you know the corn place and
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this place those that from the age of
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like six most of those guys can grow
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mustaches right and then some of the
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ladies probably all their older brothers
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have mustaches and their grandfathers
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have big flourishing white mustaches so
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I felt a little bit like that I felt
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like I I was I had a mustache in the
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well we had a very strange thing
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happened when I don my own wife got
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pregnant where you know let's speak in
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code you know my neighborhood I couldn't
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get the guy who runs of Civil War ghosts
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that's its triple you've seen him but
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like I have not in the almost 14 years
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I've lived here now I just got used to
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the fact that nobody looks at you
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nobody pays attention to you and the
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people in my neighborhood just have a
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completely different sense of how to
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operate in public and I'm accustomed to
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write about not just the not just the
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ethnic ethnic component but also at San
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Francisco and if you could look at
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somebody they may throw feces at well
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it's a pretty friendly town but i live
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in what is categorically the most
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conservative district and in all of San
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Francisco it is mostly people from China
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some people from the mines mostly people
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you know first second generation people
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from China simulation environment and
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first-hand first and second-generation
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people from Ireland only enough but a
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funny thing happened like I told you I
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used to this chinese place three times a
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week and the guy would not say anything
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to me he would not suggest anything off
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nothing nobody looks at you everybody on
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on public trans just closes their eyes
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it's a completely insular world must by
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and large I like all of that crazy thing
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happened my wife got pregnant and we
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will go on public transit
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and everybody's face especially the old
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Chinese ladies their eyes would just
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light up and these people who never
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spoken a word to either of us in years
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we're certainly not only like smiling at
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us not only walking up to us
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can I just say old Chinese guy thing to
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do touch the ladies time without asking
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oh just walk up agency book if you're
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pregnant lady you're basically open
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source your open-source woman people
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just walk up and start touching and the
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same street today like we go to the zoo
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you know take me out very small amount
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of town that's left to the west of where
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I am i all on the white people are
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people are smiling and and you know just
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asking questions like how old are you
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interesting they're asking you how old
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you were let's have a big plan strong
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you know that's very similar to the
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experience that's the very very similar
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to the experience of having a successful
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band for the first time
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well I i really look forward to that for
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many years here in Seattle
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I what I I had you know I had a couple
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of bands the bun family players most
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notably three hours shower
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four out of five dentists the
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transnational z28 I had a lot of bands
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here and none of those bands were very
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popular but wasn't fun family players
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deliberately difficult in every
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community and every player's wasn't was
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intent was trying to be so was trying to
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be so smart that no one could like it
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like unfathomable yeah right and we and
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yet we developed we did develop a
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fanbase of people that that had that
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works that were broken inside but um
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during that time of course i was
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crossing paths with some of the same
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characters over and over right
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ken stringfellow being one of them are
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good friend Jason Finn another and both
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of those guys were were popular
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musicians that were in popular
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successful band categorically like major
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label popular bands of posies and
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presidents of the USA
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that's right amber and Jason before that
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he was in the president's he was in love
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that area which was a witch was a but
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not very good and spent but but still
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popular grunge band grunge era bandai
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say they weren't actually very grim g
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but so anyway I would I routinely see
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these guys I would see Jason every
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single day and I would see ken
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stringfellow you know that's not late at
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night belief that he would come out he'd
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come out and and to touch us and make us
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very cold but neither one of those guys
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ever acknowledge my existence and I've
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had this I've had this conversation with
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both the many times and they both deny
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or you know we're trying to rationalize
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or justify why it was that they never
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ever ever liked Jason would sit down at
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the same table i was sitting at and he
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was this way he would like move my beer
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glass so that it was out of his line of
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sight or whatever
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hey you just touched my glass and he was
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just kind of turn face the other way and
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talk to the girl that I had brought
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their as my date and uh and ken Ken
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would actually like draw blood from the
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girl that I was sitting next to and make
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her one of the undead and never look at
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me once and then one day i had i hadn't
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a band that was that that people liked
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the Western State hurricanes and we
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played our second or third show and I
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swear to you can Stringfellow just like
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a little Chinese man he didn't you tell
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me it came up in touch my tummy
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he came up and handed me his business
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card that was a black and be definitely
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or even close and he said hello like it
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you should give me a call let's hang out
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sometime as though we knew each other
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and I just didn't I just hadn't had his
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recent business card or whatever and
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Jason been even better came up put his
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arm around me was like John Roderick my
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good buddy my old pal like he knew i was
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actually sounded alarmingly like Jason
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that was really good
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thank you I've been practicing that but
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let's get the cake and didn't catch a
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really really you know vampiric
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tendencies is extremely smart guy is but
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he said he thought he could play it off
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legit that like this was your first
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ok and Jason are bolts incredible wanted
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me to stay since last part but
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the fact that you could walk up to
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somebody you've seen for months or years
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and handling business card like it was
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the first time you met
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well the thing is in a way it was the
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first time we met that I've come to
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understand over the years that in fact
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before i had a successful band i did not
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exist there was no reason to know me and
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then there was a reason to know me and I
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did I was like it was like i
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materialized out of out of the like like
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what's the ghost army of a betrayer
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souls that live under the mountain in
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the return of the king the again
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whoever they are it's just re the the
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the Ghora who live under the mountain
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but um hey uh you know they materialize
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and then and then they become well and
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actually they stay did but that's about
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the perfect metaphor but I didn't stay
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dead but it was like I was undead and
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then became alive
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I think I know what you mean now because
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I i have a similar problem in that ID
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not I may be clever but i am not smart
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and my retention for things is terrible
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I've tried desperately over the years
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anal retention was fantastic you
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wouldn't know it looking at this desk
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buddy i haven't have invested my
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spider-woman months you know what i mean
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III but no but the problem is like I you
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know they say that old thing they used
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to say in advertising i have no way of
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knowing if this is true turns out that
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you have to hear an advertising message
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13 times before and registers whatever
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that you know old saw is five
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impressions a five major impressions i
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have to meet somebody
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several times I mean and it's getting
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worse and worse and worse it takes more
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impressions and it isn't because I'm
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trying to be fancy
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it doesn't matter it's just what I
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remember I remember the face I I know
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I've said this before I remember the
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face of an extraordinary number of
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people people serve servers one time
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somebody at gas station somebody who is
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sitting next to me in a waiting room i
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will remember for years but there are
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people who i have online intercourse
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with that I that I talk too frequently
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all i know is they're fake twitter name
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and then I meet them and they go and i'm
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joe bob and I'm like hi
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haha like no I'm insipid Cupid Galactus
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65000 you have the icon of that cartoon
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thing right now writes and writes but
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you know I really want to meet people I
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want them to have like a hello my name
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is with their stupid icon and they're
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fake internet name because it does take
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a lot and even in a place as relatively
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small and densely packed with talent as
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seattle it must be hard i mean in know
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in fairness to somebody like candles
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probably a lot of people who have come
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over the years and said hi expecting
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them to remember
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well I mean key to the stories that I've
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never once went up to him and said hi
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and all that time I was that I was
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standing there waiting for him to
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recognize me of course they never did
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until that David it
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how did you feel do you feel what was
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what if you were if you can put yourself
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take yourself back to those halcyon days
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what 98-99 what what did that feel like
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where you plant a brief moment where you
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get angrier i was a little bit and there
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was that there was the moment I was
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sitting at the bar the crocodile and
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that the the the old booking agent the
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crocodiles name is Christine who for
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years had required me to submit another
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cassette tape every time I wanted to
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book a show even though we had just
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played their week and a half before the
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problem process of tables with that she
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was like well you better send in a demo
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and I was like you have for my demos and
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she's like yeah better send another one
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and you could just you could just tell
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that she was she was taping over all the
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demo she got and putting you know
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putting built to spill records on them
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or whatever and probably selling the
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garage sales and so this gal like comes
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up to me sits down on the bar stool next
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to me at the bar and she goes John you
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know like very familiar
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let's talk about making the Western
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State hurricanes the house band at the
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it's um it's I I think I i have this you
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all the amazing things that they've done
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none of which are particularly amazing
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you are so hilarious when someone comes
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and effects out over-familiar ok now
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those people are not a nice to art so
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you're not gonna meet many nicer people
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that you when you meet them
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say for myself I say this twice a year
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I'm a lot nicer than people would think
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oh no you're extremely nice but your I
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person comes up to me and says hey I
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they're gonna be the one that's gonna be
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door after three hours now you're gonna
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have to wipe spooge on their face the
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don't worry where we go we'll find
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something to talk about but you suffer
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fools maybe less than anyone i know is
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that a compliment and it really is i
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mean in the sense that let me just say
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let me just say this you are one of the
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rare people wear you wear when you go
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the play they're wrong car service when
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when you go after somebody like you are
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one of the rare people that can actually
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come on i mean because i am laughing
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just saying that to be nice and laughing
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inside and my name's i'm squirming in my
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chair like a little boy like all of a
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sudden my chair gets big and my don't
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touch the floor anymore and I'm like oh
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my God we're gonna make not as you
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proceed to because what you do is you
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primrose path that they have paved a
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little ways like you often you often go
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oh hello and you effect a kind of like
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tell me more about your startup and you
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get them you get them a little bit out
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on the pier before you take the pilings
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away but I think the reason people did
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thank you so much that's the hugest
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compliment i've gotten all year
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that's if I'm going to be no that's
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that's what I'm okay with so good thank
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you everybody should see it once
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everybody in the world should see you
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like going places with you it's always
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takes time to pick someone out of the
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knees haha now maybe that giving my
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reality show i really want to go now i
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want to go to a tech conference with you
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oh no no you don't mind if I swear
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disguise I've learned i think one word
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Nick I forget where I learned a new word
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want renew or oh haha it's like a very
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day area thing like somebody who really
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it kind of considers themselves in an
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entrepreneur even though they have
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really done anything right
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but the reason I say that is first of
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all thank you but also that I think when
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you see that networking thing you see
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people who maybe read books or people
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who have tried to reverse engineer the
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process that you and I are sadly
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admitting to be as we say how things are
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and how things r is that you have to be
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out there and people have to see you and
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people have to go oh that's that one guy
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who either a nose this friend of mine
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this kind of famous or B does this thing
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i've heard of whether I like it or not
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heard of it and i think that i think
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people try really really hard to do that
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and the thing is the irony is that's not
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know people you want to hopefully not be
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painful to watch when it's not
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working and and but people keep doing it
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get kind of famous with somebody I not
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an actual human connection with somebody
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it's a miserable way to try and make a
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people develop these alternate universe
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cultures where they are populated with
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people who have not actually done the
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work to get through the door on their
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where everybody there is a is in the
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music business if you ask them what they
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do and then as you you know as you
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circulate through the room you realize
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like oh no one here is in the music
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everybody here is everybody there are
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some people who are being funded by
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their parents there are some people who
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are people here who have filled out a
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lot of online forms to win songwriting
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contests you know like a mountain music
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there's a whole there's a whole
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constellation of ways to join the music
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business and build up a whole wikipedia
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entry of all the songwriting contests
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you've won and none of it is really the
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music business and none of it is the
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work that you need to do to get through
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the door and I that I think the wanted
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preneur scene is probably a thousand
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that's true of any thousand times more
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because you can write a book about
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entrepreneurship you can you can start
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25 businesses that all that all fail or
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make you have a login a podcast about I
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mean I've certainly done it you can
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create you create this meta work in that
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case about like you know bridging the
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gap how to go from being a want ranaut
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to have been there preneur I i had i was
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lucky enough to have dinner with Paula
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Tompkins the other night here in Seattle
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and I had a similar conversation where I
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was where I caught myself being that
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the yo-yo because I you know I admire
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Paul just to make sure he recognizes who
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no it was that and this is a
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conversation I've had with Paula
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Tompkins before and I forgot that I had
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done it already and I did it again but
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he Paul after 30 years of doing stand-up
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since he was 12 years old has over the
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last several years transitioned his
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stand-up comedy into a more storytelling
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long-form kind of a format that I really
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identify with you know like I love to
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tell stories i have told stories for a
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long time and as he and as comedy in
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general like I see this more and more
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this format of like long-form stories
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that are that are humorous and have
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punch lines but they aren't it's not a
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string of jokes you know it's like
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stories from life that are meant to be
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both thought provoking and also very
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funny and so I identify with this style
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of comedy and i watch people like Paul
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do it and I think I make the classic I
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mean the primary error of saying I can
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do that and then I make the secondary
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error of saying I already do that like
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the 20 years that I've spent for 25
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years I've spent so many people used to
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do this with stand-up where you go i
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consider myself a funny person and all
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my brothers if I have a date right think
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therefore i'm probably already a
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stand-up I just need to get some
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not necessarily you but I mean I think
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that's a classic comedy pattern
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you have no idea how hard that business
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and that's exactly the mistake i was
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making and I'm talking to Paul and I'm
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like you know i I just I feel like I
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feel like I need to do the work i need
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to put in some work in you know crafting
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my stories so that I am able to really
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get up and do this do you know to
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storytelling as a for as a performance
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forum and Paul said well did you like
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comedy as a kid and i was like i loved
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it i mean that was all I did I I'd stay
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up late and watch the Carson show and I
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identified with comedians more than
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musicians and Paul said yeah me too
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in fact it's all I ever wanted to do and
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from the time I was 13 I have done
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nothing else and I was like right well I
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did a lot of other things a and he was
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tell me more like well yeah I mean I did
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a lot of things that weren't that he's
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like exactly and it was you mean he and
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he wasn't really he wasn't hammering
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it was aight i think he left himself he
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left enough air in the room for you to
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kind of breathe in on your own
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yeah that was that was my like right
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like there were and the thing is I feel
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this way about my music career to there
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were guys that from 12 years old all
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they wanted to do was play guitar and
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that's all they've done and they are
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better guitar players and i am by far
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and it's easy to see the work that
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yeah but maybe they didn't get in the
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van that many times they need to get in
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the van to write but are all by way of
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saying like I can still fall into that
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trap of feeling like you know here's a
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guy who's doing a thing that I admire I
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also feel like I have a native gift for
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this and so therefore it's just some
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indeterminate amount of work that we can
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talk about later that I need to do
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between here and there and then I'll be
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right there and I'll be in the winner's
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circle and it's like me I type the idea
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all the time it's something I know is
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stupid i hate it when other people do it
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but i find myself when I talk to comic
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people that's how I'm some new comics
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I've never wanted intensely to write a
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comic I've never wanted intensely to get
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good at writing but now as i get older i
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appreciate the medium so much more than
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one talking to one of my comic you know
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writing heroes I'll say something like
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you know well you know I've kind of been
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picking up I got an idea for a superhero
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ya know it's even worse and i wish i
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wish i could go like I had this idea you
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know shaken up bottle of coke man or
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something i don't even have anything 0
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man i hate you so much but you know that
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is that is the moon and that is the
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funny part i mean when you meet somebody
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it almost becomes an unconscious kind of
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I'll speak for myself it can become a
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strange combination of trying to impress
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combined with like trying to show how
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familiar you are with their work without
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sounding creepy combining with hoping
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for some kind of encouragement and
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indirect basically turning into career
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counseling in a bar where you're
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essentially asking them for the tips and
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tricks on how to become paul f tompkins
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well you know what
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good go beyond and go beyond the HBO
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show that almost got cancelled a budget
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well and I've heard many comics do this
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to other people who kind of come up and
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say like other the worst kind is common
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to the word that the one of the comics
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the worst the worst and and I've heard
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this over and over enough to know that
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this is like this is comic shorthand and
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they've been and it's kind of brilliant
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because all comics have have shared this
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line with each other where they look at
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the person may go
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ok sounds like things are grouped going
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now you just need to do it for 10 years
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and then they like you know go cheers
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with their beer bottle and they turn
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back and rejoin their conversation and
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it's a it's a relatively polite but
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chilly enough way to say we're not
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having a serious conversation here are
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we right and and talking to the comics
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that I know every one of them really
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does believe like at ten years of doing
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stand-up every night for 10 years and
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that's not ten years from the time you
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first did stand-up and high in high
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school and the and the present but 10
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straight years of doing stand-up you can
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come up to me and we'll talk about
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and in in that case I will probably
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already know who you are so we want
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right so it won't have to be like you
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telling me all the standard having this
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same conversation that I i find myself
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stuck in six times a month
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well I have this upsetting my other fake
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career as a Productivity self-help
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retired productivity guru I'm obsessed
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with that idea of expertise and why it
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is that the 70 or 80 year old butcher
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knows this weighs a pound this roast
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beef but you can't tell you why i'm very
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interested in that idea and I think the
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same thing happens I mean you so you
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people not necessarily you but most of
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us I think nothing of walking up to Matt
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how'd you get security context like what
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I have been obsessed since as a child
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and I work incredibly hard you would
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never walk up dramatically never got to
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an oncologist and going man pretty sweet
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yes what's the trick how'd you get into
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talking followed now I know you're
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really smart in medical school but like
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what and he studied like everybody else
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wanna find you study your biology stuff
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and I school whatever what's the trick
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yeah what's the trick I being an
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oncologist what he wanted to let you
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know this stuff already like I read a
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couple of of medical uh thrillers
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seriously seriously seriously just tell
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you man like i had like this is just
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ok it's like I feel like I'm already
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just really passionate about so i used
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to love dr. Quinn Medicine and cheated a
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you you actually like course it's more
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if this is and this is partly a problem
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of being a generalist right because when
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this since I was 13 years old and I go
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right and what have I been doing since I
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was 13 years old i have here we go
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you know I'll I've been doing a lot of
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well I did a lot of pot smoking john III
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know this story I've heard this story
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i'm glad you did all of those things I'm
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glad you're who you are you special
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little motherfucker I'm glad you're here
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and I'm glad you're fucked up you and
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that's all I'm gonna say about that but
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so the other day I met
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that another party right yeah it's one
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of these parties like that i find myself
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going to more and more and also I didn't
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tell you this but I got I got roped in
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to a imbroglio the the music and
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nightlife community in seattle which is
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in which by which i mean like the local
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club owners and bar owners a group of
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them got together and held a press
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conference where they endorsed the
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challenger in the mayoral race and my
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phone rang I was sitting here at my
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computer making a song for Joseph
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scrimshaw long story my phone rings and
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i made the classic error of answering it
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because I was because I'm remortgaging
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my house and there was a lot going on
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that day and the phone rang and it was a
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number i didn't recognize and I was like
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oh shit I ok i'll answer and I answered
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it and it was someone from the mayor's
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office and they said the club owners the
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downtown rock club owners are having a
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press conference right now and they're
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endorsing the opponent and I was like oh
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cheese and they said we need you to have
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a press conference
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what and I said love me I'm busy
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I'm super busy today and they were like
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yeah we need you to have a press
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conference right now where are you
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you're shitting me i was like i'm at my
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house but i'm going to a i'm going
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downtown in a minute and they were like
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great tell us where you are and a half
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an hour and so I was downtown and they
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called me again and they were like where
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are you and I said I'm standing in front
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of those far and they're like stay there
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and five minutes later a news van drives
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up and I'm standing there like going
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what is WTF news van drives up
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look lady see if hilly yeah right it was
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the WTF it was Cairo and and a guy jumps
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out in a certain time a cameraman and
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big puffy microphone and they get some
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b-roll of of the reporter and me walking
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up and down the sidewalk a few times
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like engaged in conversation and then
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they interviewed me about like how do
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you feel about this group of club owners
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and the music business people endorsing
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the opponent and I'm like I i feel like
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the mayor's doing a great job and you
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know when I gave like I gave a kind of
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like there's there are no losers in this
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election both candidates are amazing and
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i think the mayor is has been great for
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the local music community and I like him
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personally I think he's a good they
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could dude so the club owners are don't
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speak for all of us and they're like
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thanks and they jumped in the van and 45
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minutes later it was on the evening news
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so was it how was it how is it frame i
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mean least in my experience when you
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interview there waiting for you to say
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one particular line that they can ya
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used to underscore some things they made
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yeah that's what it was it was like it
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was like a bunch of a bunch of music
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industry people endorse the opponent
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today and they they flip to this panel
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of 20 people that I know who are all
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sitting around the the Challenger whose
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name is Eddie Murray and they're like we
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just don't think the mayor's doing a
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good enough job and it kind of the
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camera pans around and they talk about
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it for a minute or so and then the then
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the voiceover says but not everybody in
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the music community feels like the
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mayor's doing a bad job and then it cuts
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to me walking down the sidewalk having a
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pretend conversation with the reporter
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we found we found local and full picnic
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and Roderick standing in front of a ball
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or yeah they said local homeless person
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rock musician from the long winters John
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Roderick says the mayor's doing a fine
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job and then then I guess when I say I
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think they're doing a fuck
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back to you Tom back to you Tom right
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and and so so the following night i'm at
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a party and the mayor is there and a lot
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campaign people are there and we're
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having a lot of that you know the mirror
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and I have a little 10-minute long like
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little huddle we're talking about
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talking about the day and talking about
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you know his feelings are hurt that the
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that the music business is endorsing his
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opponent and I think rightfully so and
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he's you know he's also like he's
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campaigning hard right now he's behind
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in the polls but then his staff starts
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you know kinda coming around and I have
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a have a couple of conversations with
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people where they're patting me on the
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back like thank you for that thank you
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for having that press conference and
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then two separate occasions the person
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you know this is like the mayor's chief
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of staff and then his head his campaign
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head clean and they go when we can when
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we going to get you on the City Council
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God and you gotta get away John you
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gotta get away that and I was like wow
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and all afternoon and all evening and
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all the next day actually all the day
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after that your virginal what's going to
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be painted in gold on your door
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I walked around conducting my campaign
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by imaginarium you know like like this
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just generally like looking at the arc
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of the of the campaign maybe some you
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know some brochures with some pictures
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of me walking through a park with my
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family at my out-of-wedlock child and
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you know and then pictured myself kind
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of going door-to-door in my neighborhood
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and shots fired say you know
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hi ru I'm i live in this neighborhood
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with you and that guy you got your treat
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and I'm running for office you might
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have seen me in the in your yard in a
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bathroom with the sword at some time
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recently chasing the neighbor's dog but
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now i'm running for the City Council and
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i feel like uh together we can rid the
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stray dogs and loud stereos weekend but
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we can bet we can improve all of the
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guard towers that I have been erecting
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in the forests that's exciting John so
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but but again but I so again I'm drawn
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to this question like there are people
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in public office in city government and
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in nonprofits who have done nothing else
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since they were you know these are the
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people that were like Reese Witherspoon
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in in election in high school and
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they've just reached Witherspoon to
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themselves all the way until they get
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elected to something and then pretty
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soon they make it to Washington and then
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pretty soon they are Condoleezza Rice
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and again i am i am the consummate
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generalist and i'm standing in this
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situation sort of like hey when are we
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going to get you on the City Council and
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I'm thinking yes let's get me on the
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City Council in the hit the same way
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that when when my frat brothers say you
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should be a stand-up I'm like yes I
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should be a stand-up are you kidding but
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in fact i don't know if i would be good
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at that at all i don't know anything
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about that world I imagine there are a
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lot of PowerPoint demonstrations I
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imagine there are a lot of meetings
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where you could potentially despise
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every single person in the room
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yeah right where I'm sitting behind the
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desk and I'm listening to somebody
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you're sitting at your sitting in a
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microphone is being shot for for local
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cable TV that's right and somebody's
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somebody's on there talking about like
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how the shade of their mailbox should be
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acceptable right or somebody's yelling
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at me about the about the who gets the
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rights to the gooey ducks in the title
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waters around the you know around their
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boat dock and that's a that's a
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that sounds like what I don't know any
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that means but I have to guess that
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would be easily one of the most
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interesting conversation she would ever
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have one yeah you're absolutely right
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you're absolutely right it was it is
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it is more a question of somebody
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yelling at me because the taco bus that
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I go to does not have a wheelchair
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I was just going to say I was going to
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guess that it could be stuff like like
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here's a big dust-up about food trucks
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and where they could be in the
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restaurant owners associations whatever
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got together to try
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that's the kind of thing is and that's
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that's I don't want to read because I'm
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much questions particular thread bit
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could you if you can if you choose to
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could you briefly say what it is that
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the bar owners and club owners are
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theoretically so unhappy with it sounds
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like a jamup John it's a little bit of a
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jam important I mean both candidates for
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Seattle City Mayor are incredibly
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progressive liberal uh up candidates and
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like there's there there are no losers
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the difference is that one that the head
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marie i think is a liberal in the kind
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of classic Northwest mode he knows how
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to get things done by putting a group of
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people together in a room and reaching a
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solution together and he knows how to
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come out and announce the solution where
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he gives the credit to everybody that
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was on the panel and everybody feels
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good and they go do their part of the
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solution or they presumably go do their
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part of the solution
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feeling validated and the mayor quite
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honestly is somebody that sometimes
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struggles to get a group of people to
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agree where everybody leaves the meeting
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feeling really good about themselves
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the mayor is more of these a little bit
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more imperial and a little bit as a
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tendency to say here's how it's going to
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go here's the right course of action
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either get in line or go fuck yourself
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and kept in by seattle standards it's a
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little bit it's a little tough you know
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it's a little bit tough love and and
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there have been a couple of pretty
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there have been a couple of instances
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where a thing failed because the mayor
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couldn't get people to he couldn't even
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drawn of happy faces on it right like
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the thing was clearly what needed to
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happen and everybody just needed to shut
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up and do it but in the end a key person
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withheld their vote and if you talk to
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them about it in private they would say
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ya i withheld my vote you know why
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because fuck that guy who and it's like
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you cannot you can but the Imperial
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method does not work in seattle /
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especially because we have a strong City
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Council and a week may or ality so the
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City Council you know you really have to
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like Greece those guys and gals it's
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less popular degrees the gals you have
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to you know you have to like be a
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coalition builder right and so the about
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but honestly I feel like the music the
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music crowd that threw their weight
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behind the Challenger was more doing it
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twenty years ago nobody gave off fuck
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about the club owners and the music
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business i would say in fact that the
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city of seattle was actually so hostile
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to the rock scene for so many years it
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was the worst to finally have a mayoral
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office that comes to rock shows and it
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knows musicians by name you know the
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temperature is the temperature the city
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has changed under the beginning
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ministration since John Rutter ah can't
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find the video i guess the video is this
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here in this but I look at that Scarlett
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Johansson is the sexiest woman alive
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uh-huh I what I don't mind so much from
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Cairo tv.com but I feel like what
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happened was these music business people
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finally got a mayor that treated them
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with respect and they started to feel
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like as a group together they actually
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had political power
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you know like that for the first time
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people were listening to them but who
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and the Challenger was courting their
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affections like they'd be they have
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become and partly this is that all of
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the people involved have grown up and
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they're all now 48 years old and there
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they own respectable businesses and they
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have they built a little cub all right
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so how much is that how much political
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power is that if they continue to work
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with this mayor that they kind of that
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they can came up with versus what if
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they take their ball and go play with
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the other guy and as a group I think
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they can move to the other candidate and
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have ants and appear to have more power
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more authority in in them in the
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movement you know what are the only i'm
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i'm a dummy what what are they were the
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nightclubs Seattle not getting from
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their mayor of these days right
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precisely Katniss absolutely there will
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be no difference between the two
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candidates there is no different than
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probably got nothing to lose if it's at
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it's a tight ish race and somebody
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offers them something you know on the
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strength you know worst-case scenario
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that guy loses they still got what they
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had before but this there they could be
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you know promise whatever and now or
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they can just they can feel like okay
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now you know that
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their group gets as their group gets
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tighter and and acts as a at acts as a
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another conscience in the city
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government right they become another
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group of concerned business owners and
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and typically that could typically
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rock-and-roll people are pretty
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progressive in their politics so it's
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another group of people that have a have
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attrition John you get in there and you
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be all over the city as a city
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kissing babies let me kiss your baby
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former public supplies costs almost
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nothing to install John that's right now
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little ball but you're hacking system
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gondolas right why is there no Capitol
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sudden your crosstown traffic problems
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sorry about this mr. Roderick I had a
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couple questions about the zoning ramen
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amazing question who you know love
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weight loss people would have great leap
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are you still helps let's get to the
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those people are really going to I doubt
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sister cities for the city Seattle
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Beersheva Israel oh that's nice perugia
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might want to reach out and you might
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even get support from your sisters
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I'm just saying did you know that my
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that my neighborhood is the most diverse
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ZIP code in America that's mind-boggling
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it it's astonishing considering and
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that's not in the way you described it
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to me was it's not in the way it seems
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it isn't like oh there's an equal mix of
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black people and white people it's more
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like no no you've got a sampling you've
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got the ultimate like existential buffet
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humanity was right right there are just
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there are just as many people here from
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a like Vladivostok as there are from
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let's say uruguay
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so if this happens and the mayor gets in
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stays in I assume November whatever this
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first tuesday in november and then what
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there be a city council election
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two years two years that's right so i
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have two years to plan my campaign
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that's more than enough time John and I
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feel like I feel like a lot of this is
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the thing a lot of the cost of running a
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campaign is the is publicity and name
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recognition right but i already have
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name recognition and there's gonna be a
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lot of free publicity associated with me
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running for City Council because because
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everybody will want a black people are
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going well let's get on some people that
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people going to come out of the woodwork
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all those people who can't remember
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whether you're arguing with them or not
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somebody that you're 24 finding friends
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then you're gonna know pretty quick
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oh yeah everybody is going to
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everybody's gonna have something to say
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about it and baste i mean i would have
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to run on a platform of everything that
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I like I do not disavow anything that
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I've ever said i stand behind everything
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I've ever said because if you run on a
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platform like that given the sheer
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amount of crackpot shit that I have said
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over the years like in print and in
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public no one no one's gonna be able to
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say like well it you know like duh the
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candidate a you know have had a drinking
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problem or whatever the candidate the
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candidate is a known womanizer because
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you could also say like well the
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candidate has called for a reevaluation
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of Hitler's legacy again click get it a
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read the rest of it's not what it sounds
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like a good candidate the candidate
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believes that all teenagers should be
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put on work farms like there's no you
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could not my record is is is very
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substantive but it's it's so far out
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that you're no one's going to but it's
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it's absolutely and in by not the thing
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is essentially no I didn't say that you
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open a door or they're screwed there's
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so much nonsense you said and it's so
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contradictory there will be difficult to
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even have a presentable piece that you
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put in the paper
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exactly i mean Mike it's not made-up
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what I would say is we still talking
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listen I put on arguments like other
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people put on jackets and I like the
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look of myself in all these different
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arguments i think i'm very handsome in
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next question galway ireland cotija past
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see Kobe that's what i meant Kobe that's
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where the the beef comes from the right
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leg at Tashkent Uzbekistan
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yeah tashkent that's a big town in
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Uzbekistan that's a you know Seattle's
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not the biggest town in America I think
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it's the 15 biggest town in America
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something like that may not be the
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biggest but it certainly is the zip line
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that's right well now think about that
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think about think about think about the
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sister cities of seattle all around the
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world how those sister city how quickly
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are those sister cities going to adopt a
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zip line based public transit system one
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Seattle page delay a hundred percent you
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you go to mombasa kenya kenya i think
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they're gonna want to look at ziplines
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tashkent six months after I'm elected to
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the city council tashkent is going to be
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the zipline capital of booze Pakistan
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hello this is Haiphong Vietnam we would
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like ziplines please zip lines and
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seattle is going to be by that point we
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will have pioneered like aggressive
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zipline technologies like how they can
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make the iphone 5 cheap now you got all
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the component parts right if you got
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everything you need if you make smart
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and you know what you get locally
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sourced up lines we have an abundance of
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engineers that are totally got cables
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you got going right there's gotta be
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cables land yeah and and Boeing keeps
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driving them there themselves in their
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commercial aircraft business into the
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so all of these people that will one day
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be out of work will be newly employed in
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my zip line gondolas understand this
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correctly you're telling me this is a
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town that was used to literally be known
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as jet city is bowing the largest
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aircraft manufacturer in the world was
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based there they had factories and
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hangers there you could probably pick
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some of those up pretty cheap and
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convert them to zipline that's very
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pretty cheap right here in job and John
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jobs big big nothing about all the
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supplies you can make in a former 747
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hanger you could have an entire you can
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have an entire supply industry they're a
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lot smaller than a lot
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is costly to ship more of them on a
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I think right now the Swiss or the
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Germans might have a have like the
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gondola industry pretty well nailed down
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right but i don't know if you knew this
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Spokane Washington headquarters of the
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Riblet company and riblets are the poles
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that support ski lifts oh my goodness
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isn't good for all of the Pacific
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Northwest the entire state of Washington
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is going to benefit which is what i'm
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going to say when i run for Congress I
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think it should help everyone but
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Portland and I think that's going to
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keep you in office
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I think that you can i scan antagonizing
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Portland be part of your platform
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I think if I were elected to the city
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council that by itself would antagonize
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Portland because I've colin Meloy would
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be so mad that it would reverberate
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through the whole town everybody would
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just be like why does I feel a
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disturbance in the force like millions
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of souls crying out at once and it would
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just be calm always sitting on his it
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sitting at his new farm and fuming
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the guy was elected to the seattle city
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council playing an accordion undertoads
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still just so mad but then when I opened
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when I inaugurate the Portland to
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Seattle gondola which admittedly would
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be a pretty long gone to override
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whether you get movies you'd be you'd be
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on there you know for six to eight hours
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but think about the view the whole way I
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am I the thing is this town doesn't have
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enough visionaries and I really feel
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like this is at so anyway having already
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kind of mastered the City Council and
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and run the city until it's like like
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like a finely honed top I'm really now
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planning my Senate run
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ha ho because i feel like this is that
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this is my back door into the United
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States Senate right I didn't go to Yale
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like I should have I didn't start doing
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stand-up comedy when I was 12 I didn't
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even really graduate from college
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technically on a technicality
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and so and I was never a Navy SEAL nor
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have i been as far as anyone knows up a
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spook or a member of an intelligence
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organization how am I going to get into
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the US Senate and I think the way to do
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it is through the seattle city council
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write down a zipline and supplying your
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way into the Senate that's right i'm
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gonna be mr. zip line that's how they're
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gonna that's how they're gonna know me
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and then I get into the Senate and then
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then Elon Musk can I are gonna make us a
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high speed underground super train that
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runs on angel tears and and where will
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all be living in paradise
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we're going to mind the garbage dumps
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from underground all that is innovation
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and we'll build what will protect the
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parks that are up above by means of a
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kind of a superstructure manufactured by
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the Riblet company creating jobs
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creating jobs and also recycling but
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you're bringing also you're bringing
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this is a city that loves a big idea
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yeah you know and and obviously it's a
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country that in the fullness of time
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we'll have to put up with a lot of big
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well that's right that's right i mean
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you should that Elon Musk I think you're
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giving him a pass these days we should
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really should find out more about that
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guy because he might he might be a
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nemesis I feel I feel like you on musk
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Elon Musk has because I don't know
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anything about Elon Musk accept his name
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is Elon Musk and he makes these cars
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actually what I know I know about the
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I know all of his cars catch on fire is
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catching on fire on fire
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didn't he make the the spaceship that
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looks like it's made out of bubbles made
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a bubble spaceship back Michael Michael
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York but i think he invented invented
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microsoft and he's got ya its cars blow
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up and he wants to make a tube and
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telling it impossible to shoot people
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through right implausible tube
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impossible tube well see an implausible
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yeah I really like implausible tube s4
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great like the first record he's gonna
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be approaching you he's gonna see this I
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don't beat the zipline thing to death I
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we have a zipline our yard and I love
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you I got rights easy see it's really
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it's a boy at feeling
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here's the problem with zip lines
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they're all too short because ziplines
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now are regarded as something to put in
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a child's play structure but when I was
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a kid when I was in the Civil Air Patrol
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and I went to civil air patrol
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encampment on Eielson Air Force Base
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they trained us on a zipline that they
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that was like you hooked a carabiner
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onto a rope and they pushed you off a
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clip and you zipline to over a river
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give me photos of that I think I do
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think about it for a minute think about
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a photo of java very young John Roderick
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in uniform in serve in the service of
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his country going to zipline that's what
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that's going to look real good on
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kiro-tv oh my god that's right that's
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good well you know what that's gonna be
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like the cover of my my little brochure
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that I hand out to people when i go on
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my door to door campaign here and that's
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what legacy of service
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ding dong hi are you interested in zip
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lines don't say no I don't think you've
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thought about we really too i feel like
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i feel like in the old days they put you
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on a zip line that was an actual risk
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like a threat to your life and yeah yeah
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that was a big part of what made me a
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man alternatives to quote a panel from a
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comic I like you don't fly a rocket
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you're right it that's the thing about a
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zipline you get on that thing and you
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just your only chance is to a hold on
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and then be get off at the right time
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exactly no brakes on a zip line but you
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can actually science there are no stops
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on a zipline I was wondering about that
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for Seattle program I don't screw things
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up but is there a way that you could
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maybe have like a way station where you
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like you go part of the way because the
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amount of velocity between capitol hill
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and I place it seems like that kid we
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should calculate that cuz i could
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probably get pretty pretty we should ask
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our friend dr. dragging the engineer to
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calculate this because i have a feeling
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you'd be moving pretty quickly by the
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time you get to the fish
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yeah you would but yeah I think you
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could put I think you could put some
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where there was more friction in the
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line so that it kind of slowed its load
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your your tempo like the other way the
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the streetcars work here right exactly a
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little friction but listen seattle is
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famous for a total boondoggle projects
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like this have a monorail thing going at
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one point the monitor we do we have a
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monorail and in fact I wrote the
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monorail yesterday as unlikely as that
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sounds and we got to the Seattle Center
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the monorail goes from them the westlake
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center which is the mall downtown to the
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Seattle Center which is basically the
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space needle and the EMP and we got off
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the train and there was a there was a
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man there with his family and it was a
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it was a white guy who had married a a
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woman from taiwan and so it was him her
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and then her mother and I think maybe
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her grandmother and their little boy
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so it's a kind of a big crowd and he was
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from Australia and we get off the train
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and he says excuse me
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he wants to talk to me and I turn
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because that's what I do when someone
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hails me and he said we got we got on
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the train going the wrong way and we
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wanted to go to the pike place market
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where do we catch the train to the pike
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place market and I said funny thing this
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train only goes to places you got on at
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stop a and you went to stop be the only
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thing to do now is get back on and go
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back to stop a and then walk to the pike
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place market and he was like huh
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and the whole family kind of went huh
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Johnson that that story make you happy
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if you'd be very unhappy
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ok and that that man his family that
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immigrant that hard-working immigrant
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who came to america only discovered that
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this only goes to two places and you've
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been to both he seemed happy was his
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impression of Seattle higher after
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learning that there's a two-point
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monorail now he said to himself he was
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you people are dealings
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this is a guy saying John this is
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exactly the kind of story that you
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should be telling when you're on the
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stump and so we decided at some point
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where we initially decided this 50 years
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ago that Seattle need a subway even
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though Seattle doesn't need a subway
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well Seattle 60 years ago took all of
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our trolleys and cable cars out for 70
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years ago and then immediately started
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thinking like what we really need is a
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it's like mmm no we don't need a subway
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and what we need is a efficient and good
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public transit system based on zip lines
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and gondolas but you know I I was too
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young at the time to make that case
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anyway we're building a subway right now
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huge that is so expensive a huge booty
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call it is billions of dollars and it's
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basically like the BART system in san
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francisco when it originally opened like
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the BART system had what three stops it
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was one tube and it went from point A to
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point B to Point C this this is going to
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be that it's going to you can get on in
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the university district it has one stop
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on capitol hill and then it goes to
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downtown and connects to the light rail
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that goes out to the airport river but
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between those like the majority of the
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people in the city live between downtown
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and and the university district and
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there is one stop between those two
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places because one stop that is that is
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served by a high-speed elevator because
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at that point the train is going to be
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so deep underground that you cannot
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access it except by getting on an
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elevator with other creeps and
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plummeting like my mom said when she
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read this plan in the newspaper she was
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like I will never get on that fucking
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thing or you can i'm not even a
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claustrophobic person and the whole idea
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of that sounds so inconvenient
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yeah and claustrophobic that I would
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just lose my mind even trying to get on
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ya its 2,000 feet underground and the
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only way to get there to get on an
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ethical fader high-speed elevator like
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okay picture yourself it's 1130 at night
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and you're waiting for an elevator on
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the apartment street
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to take you to the center of the earth
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you can also learn from what's going on
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to go one stop and this is the plan and
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this is their billions being spent on
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this they are basically grinding up the
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bones of poor people to pay for this and
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Seattle has a long long history of
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public transit projects that only go one
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stop and I feel like the zip line fits
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right in with that instrument it's like
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a Northwest mode get on here and it's a
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it's like an insane ride but at least
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you can breathe the air and there's no
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one else on the you know like you don't
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have to share its gonna come it's gonna
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cost like two hundred dollars to make
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you not get it was the two hundred
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dollars to make is applied it was 15
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billion dollars to have a tube that's
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half a mile under something something
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you know what I bet it's a paul allen
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thing that's a supervillain thing John
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where you would get this city to make a
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high-speed elevator that goes half a
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mile underground to a tube
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yeah so how you pick it up in a couple
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years for like twenty bucks so here here
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i am waiting for the elevator 1130 at
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here comes here okay shuffles up next to
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me a guy six-foot-seven who's carrying
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14 garbage bags full of laundry and he's
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wearing he's wearing a jacket that has
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not taken off since 1970 and he and I
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are going to get on this elevator
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together and I'm going to feel safe and
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secure as we plummet because we plummet
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down into a into like the yeah Paul
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Allen's secret underground rocket base
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and we're going to go to the University
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District one stop which would be a
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five-minute zipline ride five-minute
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like totally killer ass-kicking zipline
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ride people meet those people that go
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that travel around the world to go too
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crazy roller coasters
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yeah they would be the Seattle tourism
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would would go up by half
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justjust from those people coming and
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the thing is once you spent 200 to 600
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dollars on the zipline people going to
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be so excited they're going to realize
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the possibilities
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I think you're going to see a grassroots
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campaign all over the city the entire
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metropolitan area for
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local lot like local ziplines just need
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to that one little debt like that last
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mile from this to that yeah if there was
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a plan from my zip line and a pommel
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lift from my house to the grocery store
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my neighborhood would be perfect pay 200
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bucks for that right Ryan anything about
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a pommel if tis come on there's hardly
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I mean you might have to you might have
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to rent people rollerblades because I I
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don't remember whether yeah policy
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requires that your feet beyond the
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uh-huh so you would basically you would
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get you you have you read people
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rollerblades at the bottom of the hill
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get him on the pommel lift it would pull
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them up up the hill on rollerblades and
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then make it zip line back down
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IC right right like a little like you're
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going this line to hold on the donald
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duck hill like to accept the help
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it's right on the Donald kill ya like
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it's called I some people would call it
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a platter lift although those people are
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so now you have to do is you know get
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that guy re-elected right well I feel
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like we probably shouldn't talk to any
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this just going to endanger his chances
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you having revealed so much of what the
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what the quarters of power saying no no
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I feel like that I feel like the mayor
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the mayor is a good shot at it
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I feel like if if the Challenger and
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marie gets elected that's also fine for
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seattle and it's good he's a nice man
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and the thing about and and I like the
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mayor personally and and I think that he
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is a good mayor also but the reality is
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as as as they have as that the different
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factions have tried to cultivate my
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endorsement it has what has caused me to
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realize that I don't need anybody right
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like I don't need anybody
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my job consists of me sitting at this
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desk and a and playing tetris so whoever
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is it the mayor of Seattle like like it
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could be Leon Trotsky
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that I would be fine because i don't i'm
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not i'm not trying to make a I'm not
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trying to make like a coalition with
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anybody right now because i haven't
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revealed my plan
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mm but if Murray gets elected mayor I
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don't think it i don't think it imperils
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my chances to run for the City Council
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at all in fact i think a lot of these
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people who used to be working for the
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mayor are gonna be looking for a new guy
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to get behind and if the mirror where it
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gets gets elected or re-elected then you
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know I'm I've gotta get like a vontade
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of the corridors of power who and I can
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start i can start putting my plan into
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I mean and let me just say the ziplines
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the palm lives are just the beginning
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but i can only imagine i think but the
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thing is that would be that would be a
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hit the kids would love it
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the rock-and-roll dads would like it
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every everybody would appreciate what
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it's doing for the city and it would
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really soften them up my god it would be
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so amazing community will call it would
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cost less than like you know a one-day
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of light bulbs at City Hall I'm trying
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I'm trying to figure out how much it
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cost to actually build a palm lift and I
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don't think it's that much over
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um and even if you count the rollerblade
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yeah it's oh my God look at this look at
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this look at this public company they
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have they also make giant wheels and
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what trying to which michael its Ferris
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oh are you kidding me they make comments
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and Ferris wheels and gondolas and he
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need to start taking some meetings my
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friend and uh whatwhat's the and the
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flubber costums summer drinks then make
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super gardens and represents they make
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what is the what is the that the the
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train on an incline track I why am I
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forgetting this now a European uphill
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it's got a great name and I'll and it's
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thats its somebody but many many people
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who are listening to this podcast are
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yelling the name at us right now we
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really doing this and we still talking
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about this and it is it is very annoying
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to me when i get to be so old that I
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cannot remember the name of the
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funicular ah so mad concealer so this
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company that makes palma lips and
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merry-go-rounds and roller coasters and
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Zippy's links also extracurriculars
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I think you should get pine all any mode
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of transit that has a funny name
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subway subway is not a fun name element
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is there a funnier name than a funicular
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people know and Seattle why Seattle
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doesn't have funiculars all over the
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there's a funicular in in in Lisbon
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there's a there are many all of these
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are handsome John look at that
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oh yeah this is very old-world it's
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there they're all over the place i have
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written many many funiculars around the
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world why to seattle not have a fucking
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funicular it's frankly it's embarrassing
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we should have dozens of funicular
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you've got you got Soundgarden's van in
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a building somewhere
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yeah right Soundgarden's man and Chris
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blues shoes spray-painted gold are in a
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museum and we don't have a funicular not
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a funicular insight it's it is it's a
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travesty and when I'm elected to the
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city council it's all going to change
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starts at the little train i'm gonna
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have an open-door policy and i'm going
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to have an open trench coat policy
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your bells across the room now now my
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