00:00:12 ◼ ► get all your stuff done got winded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/12">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► oh he's all over town today yeah tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► about what you do always rolling all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/23">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► over i had meetings that had a lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► meeting I had another meeting you took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► lunch meeting i did at lunch but took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► lunch meeting i did a TV interview I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► over here I was over there son as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/35">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► record this it is a it is very this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► believe our last episode before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► election but cannot be right now I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/45">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► there's one more isn't next monday still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► before the election is it you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/50">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► know that that's why you're way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/53">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah a yeah yeah next next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/61">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► monday is we're still still on them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/64">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► the right side just on the off-chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► you to decide on what if you decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/70">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► run for City Council i would go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/73">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► and put that on the calendar just so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► yeah well I feel like it might run for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► political office would have to be next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► election but I mean certainly any any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► listeners are welcome to write me in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► far-reaching are our podcast cones two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/86">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► years goes by so we've done this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► that's right that's right if we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► started two years ago maybe I'd be I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► be rounding out my campaign right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► yeah I had a political meeting today one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/98">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► I i would love to hear about I i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/102">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► tell you privately i'll cut all this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► I worry privately that when you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► you're you're moving amongst certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► corridors of power right now and I worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/113">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► a little bit that you're saying too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/114">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► are you okay with everything you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► saying well this is the thing I i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► increasingly been i've been having a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► of discussions with people and they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► saying like well I mean you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/123">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► certainly a certainly in the running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► this or that sort of if not elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► job then like politically appointed job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/132">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► you could I could be higher right now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► other words in a in a job in a political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/137">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► job eat you could be the recipient of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► some political largesse some largest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► that's right i could I could be a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/148">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► political patronage sweet but it but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/152">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► increasingly it has forced me just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► all this involvement in politics the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/157">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► last year has forced me to clarify my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► feelings and this is the strange thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/161">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► we always say to one another like we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► just decide what you want to do it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► why don't you just tell me what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► that is a very common thing that we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► and we and we direct that energy at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► kids and teenagers to like what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► just just pick the thing you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► it and and the actual fact is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► very small number of us know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► fuck we want and the I think the vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► majority of us have no idea what we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► even let alone we barely barely know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► what we think we want exactly and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► whole really like we have like a 8 a 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► 10 or perhaps thirty-five-year-old idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► of what we wanted to and that we dare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► not actually financially update that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► were terrified to update to even open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► the closet door and look at our idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► what we think we want and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► real you know the more I think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► newspapers and websites I mean all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► people telling us what we want our but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► the reason we go to those things is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► we're trying to finally read something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► that explains to us what we want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► then I realize all those people writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► about writing like these articles about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► what it is we should want or what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► that that they think we should want they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► don't know what they want either they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► just churning out this you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► here's the new thing here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/247">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► like is this what you want is this what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► you want and it's all people just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► to decide for themselves what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► nobody has the first idea so i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► at all of these I so as I got as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/258">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► confronted with these questions like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► well our are you going to go with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► guy that you said you were gonna go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► who is going to lose or are you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► step into the winner's circle and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► with the guy that you don't know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► gonna win and I was like what do i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► i feel now I feel bad I felt good a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► ago when when everybody who seem to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/281">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► but now that i have to make a choice now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► I feel bad again and as as these options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► keep piling up and his people are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► well you know mr. man that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► mystery guy in charge was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► you the other day and he's thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/297">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► realizing that whatever it is I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► spent my life building it is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► that I have built precisely so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► would never sell it to somebody for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► security or power even power right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/315">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► i do not want to take a job I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► what job is I don't want someone to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/323">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► me a job if I wanted someone to give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► a job I could have spent the last 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► years training myself to be given a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► and instead i have spent that 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/335">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► training myself to never ever ever work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► for somebody or be given anything and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/342">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► I as I'm sort of cuddling up to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► people and they're cuddling up to me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► reason that they're cuddling up to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► that I clearly like I have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► a piece up and i don't know i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► think it is so much that i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► constituency because that's unclear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► everybody what that is I mean the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/367">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► thing they want to know it's like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► many how many people do you have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/370">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► would follow you into the breach and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/374">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► they put a look and I want to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/380">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► camp the night before haha i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/381">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► pretty cool what are you holding up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/386">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► finger is a fake mustache but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/391">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► this battle is gonna go pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/395">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► don't you don't you guys hear the odds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► are on our side for engine court but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► but but but a rather what they want is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/401">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► you know I i think what interests these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► politicians is is exactly the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► I have been that I've been working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► which is a all that I have a voice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/415">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► the second i took a job would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► beginning of a process of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► quiet and tame my voice and if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/427">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► somebody in in politics wants to give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► a job as their community outreach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► liaison or their rock and roll a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► know a rock-and-roll United Nations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/441">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► immediately there would be somebody said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► well listen i gotta tone down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► supertrain talk because it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► scaring some of our some of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► that are you know that are really voting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► against the zipline project and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/461">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► yeah and so I don't know exactly what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► do I mean I i I'm honest with myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► that I that I like this attention i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► I like the I was driven around today in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► a car that was piloted by an undercover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/482">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► Wow and I was like this is cool like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/487">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► driver of this vehicle is carrying a gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► that their license to use if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► steps in front of this car we could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► turn the sirens all I could also because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► maybe he and John steps out of line they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► need somebody with some stopping power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► yeah I don't think that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► they'll and starts friendly enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► it's nice to get on the writer and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► know and they everybody knows that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► carry a piece of piano wire in my jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► they're not gonna let me sit behind them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► driver knowing that I could pull up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/517">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► hello Carlo how how are you Carlo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/522">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► that John and his heir sets garage so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/526">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► so I don't I honestly don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► know how vulnerable i am to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► co-opted because when I actually think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► about what i want you know and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► my mom's council I told you this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► that she said you would hate running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► office and you would hate being elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► and because she walked my dad through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► half a dozen campaigns and was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► politics all through the fifties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► sixties and I was like come on who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► know like I'm I bring something to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► table and she was like bullshit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► would get you know you hate powerpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► demonstrations and you think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/566">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► going to get up you're going to sit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► the City Council do you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► would be eight hours of PowerPoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► demonstrations every day of your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► I was like well but I mean I'd be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► reform candidate she's like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► you're here just so far up a tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/582">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► you don't even know and she said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► candidate you get in there and you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► thinking that you're reforming things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/592">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► and all you're doing is pissing off all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► the people who spent hours making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► PowerPoint demonstration like you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► you're the one that put his feet up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► the desk and mimes that your snoring who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► is going to be impressed by that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► everybody's gonna be mad because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► nobody's making a diagram to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► no no nobody wants it that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► everybody once it when the idea man is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► out of the picture you know like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► are if you are outside the corral and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► you're out there throwing pomegranates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► over the fence every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► someone is like know that guy he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► hilarious where you know let's bring him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► in for a second and see what he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► say but but you don't you don't bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► your bushel of pomegranates into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► I mean that's i'm sorry i'm quoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► somebody there but I got a I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/644">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► yeah and it's I i have to essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/651">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► this is kind of right in your wheelhouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► of loss really in my wheelhouse we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► about the work stuff i mean i realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► like how much i don't i don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► working for other people not gonna put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► this here's a big pattern a big pattern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► is that when somebody gives you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► appears to be power or gives you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/673">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► appears to be largesse or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► anything that feels better than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► you've got there figuring out the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/679">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► including power including you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► square footage the least amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► neutralized and then we'll be gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► normative but I mean that in the true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/691">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► sense of the word they want to they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► to figure out how to something you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► still be valuable but think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► I mean you know or think about in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► of like companies and the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► acquisitions that they do a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► they'll require a company just so nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► else can just Angela vol the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► so I see this is relationships to it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► always a good question of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► cannot cede power to someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► yea even within even in a couple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► relationship you cannot say like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► hereby give you the power to have me be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/722">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► in love with you like you you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► I mean you eat you can get any power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► that you seed to somebody else that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► retain well nobody gives anybody enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► power that they could choose to unseat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► that's one way to look at it so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► I'm trying to sound cynical about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► but it's one reason i have not looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► forward to going and having a job with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► somebody because the job is a way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► saying like here's somebody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► certain amount of value to me and I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► to give them just enough of something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► some things to make it make them need me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► in some ways and so they want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► neutralize I I you know I you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► you don't want to give you know so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/765">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► don't know i can't speak to politics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► just in terms of jobs i mean people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► sell you just these big dreams about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► great this thing is going to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► they're all into you for this five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► minutes or whatever you know and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► bring you in and they give you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► enough that now so let's say they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► you a job with you know let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► somebody gives you a job and offers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► $500,000 here or something thats that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► most of us would look at and go wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/792">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► that's really a lot of money sold I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► yeah exactly but now you need that job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► ok you're going to start spending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► stuff like we said before you can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► spending on $500,000 year basis pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/801">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► you're gonna need that job and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► godfather of the wire whatever flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► this is at some point you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► going to be the day of your daughter's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/811">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► wedding and somebody's going to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► you and they're going to want something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/814">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► from you and you're not going to be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► position to say when you hired me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/818">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► PowerPoint well that's not what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► that's it i'm not saying this is you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► that's I suspected to similar impulse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► that we share where whenever somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► starts talking to big with me i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► yeah you know I really admire people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/835">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► say like hey here's this much money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► do this thing that's worth that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► cool or you know I want you to interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► me for your website because it'll help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► oh my god i love you i love your the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► honesty of your cynicism instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/848">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► well what's interesting about what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/853">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► really want you want this thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► I've got and we find what amounts to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► proper price for it and then we both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► move on but I mean the thing is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► you're in politics it seems to me that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/863">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► lot of is about neutralizing people or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► introducing a fear that they would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► think of going to the other guy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/869">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► example well what what what is appealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► is that is that in politics you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/873">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► are offered like the non cynical side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/877">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► opportunity to help in a way that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► substantive like all the stuff that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/885">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► sit around arguing with all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► like how do we deal with the homeless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► problem the homeless problem is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► problem and we can we have the we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► the benefit of historical you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► retrospective insight to say like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► that whole decision to close the asylums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► in 1970 who was ultimately like not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/907">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► not very well thought out like maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► Cylons were ripe with the abuse maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► they were terrible environments but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► didn't really think what would happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/918">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► those people and the rest of us are in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/919">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► position of what writing angry letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► to the editor or getting or maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► going to public meetings and inch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► banging our shoe on the table but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► reality is that the homeless problem in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► san francisco in seattle like massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► affect the quality of life in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► it's a massive undertaking to solve it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► but some of these people bet that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► offering me like another there has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/947">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► grooming you grooming me they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/953">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► actually in a position and not just in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► position from the standpoint of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► am in the position of power but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► interested in a solution to the homeless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► problem they are interested in it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► the right reasons and they have worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/968">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► their lives to put themselves into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► position where they actually have a shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► at trying something new and and the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► is true of the schools and the same is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► true of the of the public transit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/981">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► know they are not they are not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► politics exclusively for cynical reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► they are they actually are interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► these things as i am interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► making a huge difference as i am and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► they actually are in a position to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► and they could the question for me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/999">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► an hour-and-a-half talking to a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► about sewers power grids a water like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► water transit homelessness and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► have were carrying on a casual friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► conversation and yet he is ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► like the person who is in charge of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► uh this is extraordinary both in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► of access but also in truth in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► opportunity because he knows he's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► homelessness problem is not intractable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► it does have there are solutions and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► have to just get it you have to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► ball down the field through that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► starting to talk like a total asshole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► have to get down the field and through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► the goalposts amazing question from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► their market if you have a test match up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► tonight I know the rules are rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► star homelessness is like a cricket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► match homelessness is more of a scrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► but you throw one guy up in the air and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► a rubber buttons you have to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► backwards holding a ball that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► shaped like a ball so some fresh ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► so the appeal of it that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► tremendous appeal that it that that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► when I think cynically I call power but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► the reality is that it that that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► these that the the people who are best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► at this job have an idealism and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► idea people ultimately but they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► good at sitting in a meeting and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► I'm not looking bored and the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► are brilliant at it are good at getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► 20 people to agree about something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► then they share the credit in such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► that nobody remembers whose idea was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► everybody feels like it was their idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► kinda and-and-and where IM recognizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► in myself that my deficits are that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► not good at that and i get twenty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► oh I'll be goddamned that they don't all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► feel the the that I chapter their ass or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► you know that they their eyebrows are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► singed and so and the really gifted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► people are you know they do it in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► jiu-jitsu we're just like i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► don't even remember that his hand on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► wallet but but now I'm like the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► being ushered out of the room honor on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► floating carpet once and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► you're dancing around this but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► trying to say that politics is a con [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► but-but-but-but con a con in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► there are cons in every aspect of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► life to make something effective in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► house it helps a lot to make it seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► oh that's dying you know the way that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► con works is it's a confidence game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► that's what a con is if you ask maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► they're much more likely to do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► you because now they actually trust you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► where the end if well and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► think we are we have come from an era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► like politics and and government when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► were kids was still a business of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► in a in a room with a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► who were trying to match each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► highball glass to highball glass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► that that small group of men white men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► all knew where one another's bodies were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► buried and that was the trust that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► enabled them to get business time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► because it was like oh yeah the judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► you know the judge i happen to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► the judge likes little boys and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► judge knows i know and i'm going to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► and get his approval on this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► this project we're going to tear down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► the old folks home and build an oil well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► and the judge is gonna sign off on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► and that's how business gets done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► America and that's how it was when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► were kids and there has been a long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► ugly transition but I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► how government gets done anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► certainly local governments Seattle San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► Francisco like all these cities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► have progressive mayor's who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► gradually incremental II kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► changing the way business is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► it's it's very much less i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► remember going to vitos restaurant with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► my dad and him walking down the bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► he knew every guy in the place and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► was just like that's you know that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► Superior Court judge that's a US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► congressman that is a you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► the publisher of the newspaper and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► were all there and they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► drinking together and that doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► and in place of that there's a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► transparent e-everybody everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► just a transparency and ever that down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► let's get there's a lot more transparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► but there's also that I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► there's also a lot there are a lot fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► cigarettes there are a lot there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► less chronic alcoholism and a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► accountability i guess and i believe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► starting i'm actually starting to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► that progressive politics are making are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► actually capable of making things it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► hopeful position i just wonder i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► wonder if i have the metal for it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► definitely have the metal for a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► kind of place in that I mean it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► really nice it would be really over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► simplified to say that that means you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► should be an elected official you eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► you know there are things that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► do working with elected officials where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► you could do something really amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► that really taps into the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► you're really great at what I i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► your point about their there's all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► of things that we just that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► one that i always think about we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► about this before but like think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► all the guys in that room to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► congressmen and the newspaper publisher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► like there's a pretty good chance they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► were all in the Army at some point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► that's right that's absolutely right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► it's not in world war two Korea or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► Vietnam at least they were probably in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► the service i'll bet you a majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► the people in that notional bar or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► meeting or whatever had all been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► service at one point or another which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► sounds might sound silly to to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► generation facebook but I used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► really meaningful there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► on through that together and get his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► it's incredibly true and I mean I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► tell you how many times i have sat at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► table with those guys while they talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► about the war without talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► war they you know they would sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► and argue and bicker and it would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► and I'd be sitting kind of listening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► rolling my eyes and then I would realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► they were talking about the war and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► hadn't and I didn't get it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► because they were non demonstrative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► they weren't actually talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► war but that is that was the subtext and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► the and the and the glue the glue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► bound them to one another but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► separated them from their wives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► separated them from everybody else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► know it was it was it is it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► exclusive club that we as a culture have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► spent 40 years trying to dismantle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► like like emptying the the asylums we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► there are still the dick cheney's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► their world and surely they're all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► of places in America that are absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► still run by the sons of those guys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► the same method but looking at Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► you cannot say any more that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► because you are a Nordstrom or even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► paul allen that you necessarily have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► carte blanche because because as a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► culture we have spent 40 years putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► in place all these boards and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► referenda and there's you know there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► nothing that escapes the attention of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► the of the larger people you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► and and for good and out there there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► an interesting article about the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► schools here and end this the the school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► that was the lowest crappiest least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► has just had an incredible bump in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► test scores in the last year because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► they put put in place this renegade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► principal renegade lady principal who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► brought with her the novel idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► should take the underperforming math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► students and put them in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► group i'm the same classroom but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► put them together in a group and put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► high-performing math students together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► in a different group and that that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► radical that notion is in is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► incredibly radical because because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► education policy over the last 20 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► years has been that that dividing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► students like does not help the the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► students or the underperforming students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► it just excludes them and generally is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► you know ultimately you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► correlations between that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► economics and it turns out those are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► the poor students and the teachers just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► teaching to the smart students and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► poor students just end up getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► flushed out but also must depend a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► on the the somewhat obvious thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► gets left out which is that well and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► think that phrase from the simpsons uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► you know know you're in the brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► reading group that you moved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► brown reading group i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► kind of the Greystone over the years has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► been that and you're going to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► not very good teacher and the not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► good textbooks and a leaky classroom it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► would be nothing to say we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► take the kids that aren't doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► create math we're going to put them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► and put them in here with our best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► teacher and they're going to get twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► percent more resources than the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► group and I think that's what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► principle is doing a but she's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► bucking the bucking the trend and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► are a lot of people who are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► rattling the bars saying separating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► is it is you know maybe in a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► instance is fine but in the general in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► general it is a it is non progressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► interesting things that they quoted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► article is that there was this kid who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► quite naturally when you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► thought that one-sixth was more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► one-fifth like that makes sense right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► you have noticed is if no one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► explained to you the concept very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► you would naturally think 16 was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► than 150 and then just as much as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► point nine sounds like more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► if you don't get it and so this kid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► obviously he also was probably shy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► english as a second language or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► so he doesn't ask he doesn't raise his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► hand and ask the question he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► want to feel done so he's sitting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► class trying to digest all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► concepts based on not understanding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► fundament of it and across the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► you've got a kid like me who wanted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► teacher to just shut up please and let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► me have the book and if you you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► they had on the first day of fifth grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► said if you get through this book as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► fast as you can then we'll give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► harder book to get through on your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► as fast as you can and I would've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► been like thank you God and would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► tore through that 5th grade math book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► a in a month you know and why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► wouldn't why you wouldn't be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► what why education policy would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► try to mandate that those two students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► be taught at the same speed that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► that's the dark underbelly of not to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► ping pong of of progressivism you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► the the the the force equalization and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► trying to reform those things those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► well-intentioned policies are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► trying to solve the homeless problem by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► busing everybody around the town you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► know or giving them vouchers are trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► to treat them in emergency rooms rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► just have some low-income housing built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► but i also i mean as long as i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► assuming I mantle of guy who clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► understands what caused it but doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► it's very it's very I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► common or not unusual in America for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► people to feel that because we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► clearly see the antecedents for why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► something gotta certain way then we must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► just as clearly understand how to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► it and the example of Ronald Reagan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► know the way I understand it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► the way you've heard it which is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► decided hey you know how about we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► start how about we just start cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► out all the asylums and we take all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► these people who have been sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► around you know getting free lithium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► four years let's put them on the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► and now you got somethin somethin san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► francisco for example but boy you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► about a hard problem to solve my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► homelessness and meet anybody who comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► here from you know from Missouri and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► goes Wow San Francisco really doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► care about homeless people look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► these homeless people its Sun that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► such a complicated problem i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► probably more complicated than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► education is like primary school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► education stuff because there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► many reasons that that problem has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► gotten to where it is that might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► forty-year-old problem from its main you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► know antecedent but the what we can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► to change about that and why these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► people are still there it's it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► much more complicated than anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► even begin to imagine and it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► even have that discussion with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► from out of town here because everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► in town knows that it's not as simple as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► saying if i give this person five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► dollars they're gonna put that toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► yeah I heard the other day that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► was a big a big town hall meeting in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► Francisco where you have decided that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► it's no longer okay to just be naked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► well it's a little bit more sugar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► and when he was determined that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► within certain i think what I well out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► working longer be turgid on the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► you can no longer if you had a propecia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► style accident gotta for our pre abscess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► ok so so can I ask you a historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► so your dad i remember i think i was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► your guest bathroom I was somewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► I saw your dad's old campaign ads mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► running for back then it's a really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► like it looks like something i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► have made in the mid-nineties with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► clipart yeah it was a clipart a flyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► for his I think his first run for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► washington state legislature which would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► have happened in 1948 he was still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► law school but your dad was involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► in politics of electr elected in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► otherwise he was involved in the union's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► do you have this is this is totally out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► of nowhere but you have a gut sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► what you're like looking at it from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► your dad's point of view like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► you're right now you're in a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► you are you've got a good heart about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► this and you're saying I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► there is there's hope for progressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► politics in a large town like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► with the right people in place in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► heart like you have a sense of what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► dad would consider his biggest win in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► terms of not just not getting elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► but like is there something where what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► constitutional crisis that where he came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► out and went wow that that turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► way better than I could give any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► of that you know I'm saying like heeey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► spent a lot of time it is a lawyer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► fucking lawyer for a living and working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► in for Union guys 44 train companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► like what do have a sense of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► felt like a big win to him in his career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► well i mean i think generally overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► the civil rights movement was the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► win for everybody of his generation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► we don't think of it as a win because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► feels like it's so intractable and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► still fighting it all the time but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► difference between the world that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► difference in the world he grew up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► and and the world that he left was from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► from their standpoint astonishing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► know jack Tanner used to tell a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► that he got drafted into the Army during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► the war and he was a very light-skinned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► black guy what they used to call high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► yella yeah ATM and photos hehe reads as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► black guy for sure he reads as black guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► as an old as an old man but as a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► particularly I think he probably conquer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► his hair and he kind of looked Italian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► or you know vaguely like Mediterranean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► or it was unclear and it was obvious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► him he got inducted into the army and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► goes through the whole process here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► tacoma and they put him on a train down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► to georgia or somewhere where he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► to go to boot camp and he's riding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► the train and he'll really looks around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► and he realizes oh she is the only black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► guy on on the train and he realizes then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► that this was in an era when you weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► ever the only black guy on the train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► because you wouldn't be allowed on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► the car right and he realizes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► unless you're serving drinks right sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► if you were if you were if you had white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► he realizes that they think he's white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► and that he's on he's headed to boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► camp in Georgia and they think up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► right they put him on the train and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► thinking that he's that he's white and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► he realizes he's gonna get to Georgia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► and they're going to know he's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► he's not white and he had this he had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► repeat had to think on this train ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► like do I try and pass or do I cop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► he went and said like hey I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► there's been a mistake and got himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► reassigned to you know what was still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► segregated army to a black company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► he was a boat driver and drove what now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► those do you know the Ducks that we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► have in our cities that drive around our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► coastal our water cities you guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► the amphibious and Phineas the duck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► trucks or whatever he drove one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► like in the big beach landings at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► Okinawa and you know a late a golf and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► all this stuff like he was he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► landing craft driver but that is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► you know temp compare that to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► 30 years later where he is a federal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► judge and you know a man of enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► both power and also like held in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► pretty high esteem that transition for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► my dad's generation was like incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► profound because in 1938 there was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► any sense that that that you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► I think right made my dad's own success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► was all measured in like he he worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► out he you know he was a great conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► relationship between the dock workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► and the shipping companies you know on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► few different big disputes about how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► seattle waterfront was going to work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► then one when he went to Alaska and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► was the chief counsel for the railroad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► there he was really instrumental in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► implementation of the Native Claims Act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► and my dad was was for his generation a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► completely color blind guy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► Alaskan Natives learned to trust him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► working at the at the at the road I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► don't know if I've ever told you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► but the there's a city called Arctic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2272">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► it's a you know it's a native town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► they had a like a council or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► like a town board i guess a town board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► and they called my dad up and said will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► you come be the mayor of arctic circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► and he went up there and rat ran the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► town for a while and eventually took my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► car my 1977 chrysler imperial that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► had given me when I was 16 years old he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► took the car and he drove it all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► up to the Yukon River put it on a barge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► floating it down the Yukon and gave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► to the town and for a while it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► like town the town car I mean they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► obviously there were other cars there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► but this was like the city car right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► which you know what it would be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► except that he took the car up put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► a barge and set it down the Yukon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► without emptying the glove box or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► trunk of all my shit and without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► mentioning it to me so I think he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► Trojan one-hitter is it i came home from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► some trip and I was like where's my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► he was like oh I gave it to arctic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► circle that was like you gave it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► town and he's like yeah they needed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► town they need a city car I was like did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► you get my shit out of it feels like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► was their shit in so some somewhere up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► there they have a couple of cool jackets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► of mine and i think i had i think i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► some kind of golf clubs who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► was in the car but there's no weed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► Oh probably probably I mean that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► have doubted that probably gone over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► like gangbusters with the administration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► of Arctic Circle Alaska but so my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► was a guy that you know the guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► everybody trusted and he was a guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► women not everybody trusted input like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► he was a he was a particularly I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► both my mom and dad work were colorblind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► people in an era before that was common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► outside of kind of the Quaker like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► Quaker vibe of the Northeast where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► people are hyper color blind to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► point that you almost don't believe them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► but they were just natively that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► just naturally like judge people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► their on the look in their eye my sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► I'm you know I'm much more and much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► more of a hard case than anybody any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► the any of my people in terms of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► accepting everybody assuming the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2454">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► everyone first you know I I walk into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► situation just like the Italian guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► hey Irish guy come here but but yeah my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► did he ever end up getting elected to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► a regular you know electoral publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► well he was so state legislature for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► a couple terms on the late forties early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► fifties and then he he was the darling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► of the of the Democratic Party in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► washington state in the fifties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► their era parents but he drank too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► and then he went to work for Kennedy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► he was Kennedy's advance man through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► 60 campaign and 60 now shit so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► traveled ahead of the Kennedy campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► my dad was in you know Kennedy would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► in chicago on thursday and my dad would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► have gotten there on tuesday and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► here's where the president's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► here's who he's yeah he's gonna shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► your hand and he's going to move over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► here and you those doors need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► closed and these hotel rooms need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► blocked off and then so my dad kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► leapfrogging ahead of the campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► squaring away the local Democrats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► explaining how it was going to run and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► you know being his kind of guy leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► the that the you know the events across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► the country and the presumption and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► I'm I'm imposing all this from way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► the future but i would think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► someone in that position would then have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► a role in the new administration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► yeah almost always right that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► that largesse comes in is you get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► kind of an appointment right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► right but my dad was mb throes of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► alcoholism at the time and drank himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► into a situation this is all very this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► is all referred to in my family in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► very ghazi language where I tried and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► tried and tried i confronted people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► SAT people down and said what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► it's just one of the rare places where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► the language just gets all weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► everybody nobody even my mom who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► nothing to hide or whatever it just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► gets very confusing but my dad sat down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► in a bar with a reporter from The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► Washington Post and said some candid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► things about Bobby Kennedy that while he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► was drunk that were meant to be taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► off the record shit who knows exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► what it was but some event some moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► in time and you know the Kennedys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► very you know that Bobby and Jack really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► circled the wagons and they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► everybody in that position and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► Aris hyper paranoid bobby was hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► and you know you just get one chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► fuck up right and whatever happened he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► my dad came home from the campaign and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► then that was over and there was no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► did not translate into him going to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► his is good friend and patron Warren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► magnuson who was a long time governor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► the state of Washington who had kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► been again grooming my dad for some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► of appointment like all of that got kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► of hazy and there was all of a sudden in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► 1960 this meteoric rise where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► were talking about him as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► senate candidate or he was going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► appointed to the bench or something even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► Democratic Party through the fifties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► then post that post Kennedy post 1960 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► all the sudden he's like the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► story changes and now he's practicing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► law in Seattle and he's they moved out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► to the country and got a house on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► water somewhere and my mom and dad were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► out there trying to give you like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► straight story on that nada and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► said to my dad toward the end of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► life I was like listen you gotta tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► what went down because I'm because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► don't want to because you're the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► one that knows like right tanner is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► the whole that whole job Bernie TV is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► like out in the out in the weeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► no one's going to give me a straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► answer if you don't and at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► right and right toward the end my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► was like started to get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► haha he started to stonewall me on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► things and he said I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► fuck you're talking about and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► what happened in nineteen sixty and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► said nothing nothing fucking happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► and you know and he looked he looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► hurt and i didn't i didn't wanna press I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► didn't want to press course not and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► was just like I don't know I I'm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► going to know if my mom won't tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► everything through and and and honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► I think it might be as simple as nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► knows he might have just gone out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► sitting in a bar and said something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► the window in the Roderick style like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► yeah Bobby Kennedy what an asshole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► candid that everybody already kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► knew Outen fidelity maybe the guy i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► i think i think it's pretty gosh how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► close to like everybody knowing it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► that be that young lady with everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► tomcat everybody knew that hit his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► famous story about bobby was everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► for all they know it's too late now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► what are you gonna do what are you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► do you'd be a mixed what along I watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► have a JFK today and I'm pretty fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► what's gonna happen is is rose gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► rise up from the grave and stabbed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► they're all gone like Carolyn I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► afraid of Carolyn you've never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► afraid of Caroline Kennedy fucking take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► Caroline Kennedy know the story the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► story was they were in a hotel somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► in like somewhere in the Midwest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► it's a it's the you know it's the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► it's the Davenports or whatever it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► big hotel in the center of town and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► presidential suite having a big meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► with all of his his advisors and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► know of course the that whole floor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► blocked off their their state troopers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► their Secret Service standing outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► the door and Bobby comes up the elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► and my dad is there is the first hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► Bobby comes up the elevator he walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2938">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► down the hall tries the door knob of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► room and finds it locked and rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► knock or turn to the Secret Service guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► standing on either side of the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► Bobby takes a step back and puts his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► foot through the door and kicks open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► window breaks the lock clicks open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► double doors of the sub the sweet to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► room and says why the fuck was this door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► locked the principle being that Bobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► Kennedy is never on the wrong side of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► locked door where his brother is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► other side food and that I mean my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► having seen a lot of shit that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► particularly impressive to him and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► everyone in the room and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► and and Jack waved it off but imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► the entitlement of a guy and also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► like the ruthlessness of somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► first instinct is to kick the door down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► yeah like only a brother you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► mean like before he knocked even rattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► the knob just took one step back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► boom wingtip on it onto the lock and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► you know i think that that particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► before Bobby became attorney general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► everybody was like who's the kid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► how was he 38 and how it was Bobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► during the during the campaign we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► still in his thirties that type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► you know I'm i can i can see my dad in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► in the in the hotel bar downstairs going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► and somebody you know two booths over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► over here is it and who who knows i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► never know is the thing i'll never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► why why there was this this watershed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► moment in my dad's career where he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► from heir apparent to you know he will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► it's not like he was it was it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► you know you're out tom right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► and Tom's like but I can do you think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► you're out and then the decisions made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► and it you know dad was always he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► always on friendly terms with with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► with that whole generation and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► his good friend broc adams was appointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► Secretary of Transportation and a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► handful of his friends went up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► federal bench if it's such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► difference between being welcomed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► sanctum sanctorum vs not needing to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► welcomed there because they belong there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► all the difference that never a one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► thing I realized as growing up there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► that it never happens there's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► inner door right Brendan broc adams has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► to knock on the door to get into the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► know he's a fucking member of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► cabinet right but like it you get it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► see it in the west wing and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► one of the things that made that show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► good like the vice president of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► United States is constantly pissed off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► about his access to the President and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► like sucking his thumb over in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► executive office building because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► know because he has to call to get in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► see the president just like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► you're always always gets me waiting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► the lobby exactly like and I thought I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► probably told you that story with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► two-and-a-half months you know a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► years ago and the Keen the band are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► brilliant to us and you know wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► wonderful people but they have hired a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► and part of the job of that staff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► precisely to tell us the opening band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► not to step on any of Keynes cables and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► you hear hears that we have put some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► tape on the floor on the stage and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► need to be within that tape and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► touch anything and you get you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► choose one color for your lights because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► we are not going to use our lights on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► you so you could write an e-book just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► being the opening act that big color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► make it good and we're like okay I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► I guess white and they're like fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► done boom white and so we would walk on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► stage of what the white lights would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► come on and we'd be like standing inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► the line and we were out there for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► and the thing is that the band you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► the band is oblivious to it but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► show business so they have a that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► pay people so they can get with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► that's right and you can absolutely tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► that they know that they're the at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► monitor desk there were you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► were six power amps and they only turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► on three of them for our chef set and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► then they turn on the other three and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► and all of a sudden the sound comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► alive for the headliner and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► common business so all these months were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► out opening for kina were just standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► inside this little box and then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► end of the tour the guys in King were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► like hey we're opening for you to at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► madison square garden would you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► come to the show and I was like yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► they said great you know fly out to New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► York and and we'll put you up and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► just want you there is our guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► this is a big deal with you know you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► is playing five sold-out nights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► madison square garden and we're opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► for them we want you to be there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► I was like how amazing and i get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► show and it's absolutely right areas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► this band that i thought was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► absolute peak of you mean they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► selling tens of thousands of Records a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► week at that time all around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► and here they are standing in a box with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► one color of light and all around them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► is all of you twos gear covered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► covered with black blankets and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► could just hear the state the YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► stage manager saying listen if you step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► we're going to work we're hiding behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► the drum riser with tazers if you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► an inch and they're just like and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► watching I'm like you're always fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► opening for somebody there is somebody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► don't know if it's Kofi Anan or who it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► is but there's somebody that you too has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► to wait in the greenroom until what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► until basically until the president the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► united states walks past right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► there's nobody that the president of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► United States has to wait for right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► everybody else there's always somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► else that's like sorry we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► we're gonna have to bring some rope off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► this area for no reason except to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► you on the other side of the rope-like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► even warren buffett probably has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► there's there's some moment in time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► let's imagine for a minute that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► nineteen sixty i mean i-i ii don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► I bet next to dad next to gel i bet John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► I mean that's how he got elected with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► well but think about think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► president there is no there is no into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► your pal Bobby there is no attorney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► general feature attorney-general sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► there is a presidential suite but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► then like you know it's like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► yes I can because it's frank sinatra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► says I can like in that instance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► well yeah I'm gonna be present because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► well you have to join that Joe had Jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► suffered so many humiliations by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► point like he got his kid elected but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► himself was largely discredited as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► you know like he didn't email he made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► commensurate number of friends right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► yeah yeah but when you think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► burden the jack add his older brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► was supposed to be President his healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► Hale and Hardy older brother right jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► was supposed to just be the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► callow playboy the city kids he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► secrecy the kid that's right i mean he I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► don't think I don't think Jack would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► his brother had been elected president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► but his brother was killed in a suicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► mission that dumbass plane that dumbass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► bomb-laden plane exploded over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► channel i had never seen this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► lovely obituary in the paper for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► it's really nice you're quoted in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3478">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► it's a it's a lovely i mix and commonly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► standards for your former legislator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► yeah he you know he it is his funeral I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► still think about his funeral I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► wish i had done a better job at his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► funeral of for whatever reason in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► moment I didn't feel like I could make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► speech and when I think about it now my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► dad's whole life was about making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► speech and he never once was in an event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► like that where somebody where the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► look to him and said you make a speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► where he didn't stand up and say and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► and you know a tap is glass was for can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► say I just like to say on behalf of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► of my esteemed colleagues at the guest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► of honor sitting on the dais is the son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► of a bitch and regular haha rawr rawr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► rawr rawr rock you know like my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► never missed a chance at us today that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► I was the air and that's and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► semiotic you could be forgiven for yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► not having the best day ever had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► day I don't beat myself up too badly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► I but you know my uncle jack helped me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► rent the main room of the Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► athletic club where he transacted so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► many of his his spilled drink you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► Dayton's and like all the rock stars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► there the Seattle the young people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► all there supporting me right so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► room full of of of rock luminaries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► then they start filing in these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► men and the room fills up with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► little old dudes these and these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► little like 88 year old Japanese guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► and these little 88 year old black guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► in these little 88-year old Chinese guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► and these little 88-year old Italian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► guys Jewish guys and all these it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► a fucking Bennett on a diff such a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► existed in 1940 and there and ye and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► start walking around and talking to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► hey how do you do I'm John Roderick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► they're like oh yeah your dad was a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► son-of-a-bitch and I go yeah he was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► they're like well I've got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► speech here and I said well you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► it be you know by all means like make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► speech and they're like well wait I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► wait until the you know till the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► speeches start and I never started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► speeches i didn't get up at the lectern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► and say we're gathered here today to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► remember this old son-of-a-bitch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► there was a student there would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► been 15 guys walk up and say he used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► be such a son of a bitch like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► all dying to do it and I never started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► it and you know my brother my brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► was playing the piano over here there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► was there was a trim cocktail over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► there was you know there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► walking around in tuxedos with silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► trays and I and I'm standing there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► his suit I'm wearing his old three-piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► suit and I couldn't I couldn't stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► and say let me tell you a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► this pain-in-the-ass that was my dad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► little but you know where we were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► nobody got up and did it because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► my job to do it even though I have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► older brothers and there were 25 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► there that that probably if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► rank them by you know by precedence or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► whatever like but obviously feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► should have been your job well obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► ever reason like in that moment it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► was clearly being recognized as the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► patriarch and this was the this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► very weird experience for me at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► because there are a lot of people in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► family and a lot of other people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► should who were waiting for my dad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► die basically so that they could be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► old man and the energy in the family and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► Oh in fact that had leapfrogged all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► those people and now it was me and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► like I'm not anywhere close to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► ready to be the patriarch I'm i am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► him yet and and yet it was decided it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► was decided unconsciously by the tribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► and so I just kind of just stood there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► and and you know I talk to every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► one of those people but like I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► didn't make the speech and I didn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► them make the speech I didn't give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► a possible permission to make the speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► and so we had a we had a lovely party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► for him that was six hours long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► nobody made a single fucking speech and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► to whatever degree I feel like my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► watches over me I feel like he's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► may be trapped in purgatory until I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► a goddamn speech about it i think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► just did until it stand up in some hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► lobby and say you did a pretty good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► well it was nice because we had another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► uniform in Alaska and my uncle who does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► not who does not accept my authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► uncle Jack who does not recognize my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► authority as the new patriarch girls are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► different in the plants kept very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► feels and rightly so that he is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► is the last uh last Apache he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► what's or stand around there and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► there were was a former governor their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► former senator there who had not spoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► to each other in 20 years and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► well the headline of the obituary was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► ted stevens and Tony knowles make up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► their 20-year feud and Dave Roberts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► Funeral like the it resolved there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► like 20 years of not speaking to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► other but at that event my uncle Jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► walked into the center of the room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► he said alright you sons of bitches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► let's hear it let's hear your stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► about this old son-of-a-bitch and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► then everybody went crazy I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► was that was very fun that was the day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► met sarah palin really yeah she was here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► she did not go to my dad's funeral but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► she was down the hall at a alaska state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► Republican fundraising convention was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► before she she was governor but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► before she had been tapped to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► vice president and all my friends that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► came to my dance room were like have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► seen our governor have you seen Alaska's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► governor and I was like I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► no they were like dude sexy sexy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► she's the hottest governor of all 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► governor's I was like amazing really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► they're like yeah dude i said but isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► she a Republican you have it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► basically my Alaska friend impression so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► hot man she was pretty hard she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► pretty hot now she really was not so hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► anymore now that I know more standby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► the throne with that is it wrong for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► to feel like the only redeeming quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► of family guy is that the mom is hot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► no no it's wrong it's wrong with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► confusing family guy in king of the hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► but I but no you totally i have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► friends that just cannot even stand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► watch family kind well no it's the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► television show in the world in minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► it's evidence of our our decline takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► the redheaded mom she seemed real perky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► it's just like I don't know what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► you can tell that she's a dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► actor you know you you can just tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► no no no no I'm just saying that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► you know in the rightness on seen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► talked about the character a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► with the cartoon character yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► carrot cartoon character right yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► in a way that Betty Rubble should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► been hotter but there wasn't that danger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► she didn't have that element of danger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► in the way that what well what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► fucking elephant what's a at ted baker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► patty deafen yeah I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► country so this country singer I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► yeah but very hot you know like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► that the there's only a couple of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► I've ever gone on the internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► googled rule 34 like rule 34 Trix rabbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► or whatever it is that you want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► rule 34 word you're saying that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► that's the rule that says that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► going to be a girl version of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► rule 34 as i understand it is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► someone has made porn about it oh so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► you google it was that a real 30 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► thought that was that Eddie Vetter had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► covered it haha i had this so i was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► Todd berries podcast and listen to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► oh yeah todd has bad microphones all he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► was but it was it was charming part III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► listen to listen to almost all of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► I'm gonna listen to the whole thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► he sounds like a very very nice guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► yeah I like him a lot seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► down-to-earth well I wouldn't say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► ok he lives here uniglobe right up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► he he at one point I said something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► about about Pearl Jam and I got an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► the other day from the music editor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► the LA Weekly who said hey I i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► what you said about program in the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► very podcast was really hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► would you mind if we just transcribed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► and used it at in our article about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► upcoming programs shows in LA and i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► i don't remember i replied i do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► remember what I said but i am now having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► written the punk rock is bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► article and spent like four weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► getting 40 hate mails a day from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► people who run youth Center's I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► therapy very cautious about saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► something sold out by saying that used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► to be really big thing if you look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► don't want to say something about Pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► construed as aunty pearl jam quoted out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► of context quoted out of context because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► I just don't I don't ever want to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► delusion of like rabid hate mail again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► not you know I i retract nothing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► just don't want to instead I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► to encourage people who are crazy to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► me as a target and the LA Weekly was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► like oh no you don't say anything bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► about program I mean you just talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► how they were like a jock frat funk band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► and I said you don't think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► would make anybody mad in the pearls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► family and then it was not it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► day ago or so that they Roderick on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► line listener was just tweeted something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► to the effect that he was still mad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► you and me for having said something bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► about protein and so we've ever said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► anything bad about Pearl Jam know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► there's nothing bad to say about program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► but i think i might have spoken about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► Pearl Jam in a way all the shit we said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► how how could you listen to show more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► than two or three times and think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► worst thing we've ever had to say was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► about fucking pearl chances what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► saying they're on your friends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► pearl jam I think pearl jam is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► there are people who seem probably nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► mad at us for having spoken ill of bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► springsteen and that was just me I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► don't know anything about is all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► entirely of that and and yet they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► mad they probably won't even tweet about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► it which is like invited by modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► standards as matters which everybody we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOWy5ME/4275">TS</a>]