00:00:00 ◼ ► hello hi John who is it who's me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/0">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► hello hello faddah have sex but soaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/11">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► candygram for Mongo candygram for Mongo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/20">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► he's not awake yeah well I am awake i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/30">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► woke up a while back and been busy doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/35">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► no you're going to high-level today I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► adjusting well you know i'm working at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► high level and the work I'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► wow that is a good monday yes it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► yes i'm hosting a show tonight which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► in the family of shows where i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/58">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► that i mean i think when they pitch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► show to me they were like oh you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/66">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► have to do any work you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/67">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► anything justjust to be up onstage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► and you know host whatever that is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/71">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► don't even know who they are but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► just gonna tell you they always say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/78">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► yeah but you know it seems like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/79">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► then I'm just gonna go to go on on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► say-so and could just show up but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/86">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► gonna have to dress and get there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► mhm don't tell you that i do have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► remember a few things i do have to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► you and MC yeah i think you know when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/97">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► was in high school I couldn't think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► better job than MC like that seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/104">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► me to be the absolute pinnacle if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► had achieved everything in life you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/112">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► mhm because the MC is not the talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► he's not the is not the rookeries not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► that he doesn't own the club AMC shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/125">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► up in a tuxedo he leaves in a tuxedo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► but he's there he's at the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/132">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► everything I really believed that MC was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► the greatest job and as I got older and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/138">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► mm I started to realize that MC is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/144">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► the greatest job i think it can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► really good job first of all I know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► mutual friends of ours that it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► weirdly lucrative given me once you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► good at it like given the amount of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► you actually have to do in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► preparation but you gotta do what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► gotta be careful for the first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► agree with you I think being an MC is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► awesome and I think it's more pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► yeah because you have to be at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/170">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► familiar enough the pill go ladies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/171">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► gentlemen your master of ceremony is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► draw in like yeah right there who all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► right so they gotta know who you are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► then also you got to be careful i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► friend who he got roped into it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► being like organizing the benefit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► his kids school and I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► presented to him is our friend we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► talking about that yesterday but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► know and they're like hey you're funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/196">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► you know funny people can you do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► benefit and of course nested in that job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/200">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► on the one hand at the AMC job of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► read something off a card and riff if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► you have to fill time right and seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► enthusiastic about everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► happens and then have a pithy remarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/213">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► that's kind of being an MC right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► yeah that sounds right about right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/217">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► everything including entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/222">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► there's a lot nested in that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► basically came down to like can you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► yes right things right get your get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► bigshot celebrity TV friends to come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► yeah and it ends up being eight giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► unpaid project for people who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► used to doing that kind of work you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► the the Big Show's I've MC the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► benefit shows that I'm emceed all fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► into the category as I've as I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► outlined elsewhere of that phenomenon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► where the the people that put on 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/252">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► shows a year send you one email and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► has all the information you need about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► the show the people who put on One Show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► 50 emails and not a single one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► has any information it's usable and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/268">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► have emceed some big show some big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► benefit galas for some worthwhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► organizations but but they end up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► such a clusterfuck of of too many piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/282">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► too many stage managers too many ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► you know that i showed up I showed up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► one and they handed me a script that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/292">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► yeah and I was like wow I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► liked to have seen this yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/299">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► this is a full script this isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► like somehow this isn't an outline this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► is like a full script so basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► you have asked me to do is stand up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► stage and read this from this paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► because i have i have an hour and not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► oh no you know just like Hello ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► and germs and speaking and speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► troublesome plumbing problems you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► but tonight I think they are hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► event tonight they have hired me to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► me which is a good that's a good gig but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► you get that too often you can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► getting after it are getting hired to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► able to you know like to a certainty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/338">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► like which you they think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► getting well that's the thing i've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► a pretty pretty a work worthwhile job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/346">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► calibrating the people's idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/351">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► fake me you know like there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► there's a pretty good fake me out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► that everybody thinks is the real me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► so when somebody when somebody hires me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/364">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► I assume they mean fake me uh-huh that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► have been carefully crafted fake me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► I show up as fake me if they think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/375">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► their iron me this section here about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► the children tap-dancing can we switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► that out for about two-and-a-half hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► of me talking about united airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/387">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► they're the people who who really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/388">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► hiring me and one actual mean I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► chooses there's not enough money in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► it reminds me a little bit of I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► had a whole lot of experience with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► know programming and development stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► but certainly enough over the period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► that I was doing it to know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► are similar in one way which is people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► have a really good idea in their head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► what the finished product looks like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► like you know an iOS app like a good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► OS app looks like you know how to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► well but you know like what a good stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► show looks like but you absolutely no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► idea what goes into making that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► oh right right no you don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► this one through this we made your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► website you you haven't really well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► you participated very aggressively in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► handsomely and you and Sean both wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► lot of stuff you understood that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► going to be I think if one thing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► small success i had with that site was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/441">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► getting you understand that the Site was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► personally put into it otherwise it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► would be just another bunch of files on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► the internet and I think that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► turned out really well I'm proud of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/451">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► site but you know when you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/452">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► something like like this like you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► somebody who does it somebody if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► work with someone who's like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► production of producer type person you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► something actually like deals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► people all the time knows what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/463">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► knows what for knows what questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► people ask for used to afford me an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► email you got it recently that was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► mean it was it was like it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► it was really really really long it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► kind of hard to tease out exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► information that they should have known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► yeah well it's like that first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/485">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► went to South by Southwest and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► though we were but we got done with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► our show and there was this huge crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► of people standing right at the foot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► the stage like I'm trying to load my amp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► off the stage and they're all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/497">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► people like waving their business cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► at me and I was thinking this is it I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► hit I like I'm just going to plug these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► business cards and they're all going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► sony BMG and/or you know half of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► are probably going to be cashier's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► democratic convention in many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► that's right this is what your moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► this is here John's I have a dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► career-making turn your first time at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► South by back when south by really man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/525">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► nerd and this was going to be the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► and I and so I get off the stage and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► nice to meet you all you know i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► like taking my time with each person I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► looking at their business cards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► little by little it starts to dawn on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► after a half an hour that every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/540">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► these business cards is like billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► francs record label out of Mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► Alabama you can see the perforation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► something car engine and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► that realization that like oh they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► to South by Southwest looking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► band that was going to make their record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► label viable not this isn't a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/560">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► where I am you know where actual suits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/563">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► are here to give me opportunities this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► is like but it but it looks close enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► to that huh that I i see how people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/570">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► to see how people get rooked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► business relationships all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► where it's like oh wait no you are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► help me right and I so I get emails like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► that all the time where it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► would love to give you a big show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► go okay well what's the deal and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► like we'll all we need you to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/590">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► promoted and devised it and sell it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/591">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► be the man of it and tell us how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► it and also find the money for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► just like you are not offering me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► anything it's not like it's gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► going up to somebody and it love your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► elevator pitch being i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► why would she would give me the honor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► letting me take you out to a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/616">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► that's kind of what the pitch feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/620">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► thanks but then you realize they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► it's really that basically they want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► to have them over for dinner but never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► been to a restaurant before you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/628">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► know what happened is now now i know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► happens all the time now I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► historiography there is at the core of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/636">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► my father's family there is a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► situation where like my grandmother was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/645">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► my grandmother's family was an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► Seattle family that didn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► money they were the White Russians of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► all their friends were rich they lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/659">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► in a big house in the right neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/663">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► but they didn't but they were uh how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/664">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► great-grandfather was a judge you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► that I think they they they said they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► yeah they they had prominence without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► any money and I think it's looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► myself and my father's family it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► because no one had any business acumen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► but they raised their daughter to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/690">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► real catch for a prince and she was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► opera singer and she had toured Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► before the war and she was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► cultured and elegant and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► things and in world war one she went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/708">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► Europe to sing for the soldiers in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/712">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► trenches back when soldiers in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► trenches wanted to hear opera and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► between because the way that war was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► fought they would then she would sing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► for the soldiers up by the front and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/727">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► then they would drive her back to Paris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► and wine and dine you know for a week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/730">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► two and then go back up and sing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► soldiers again it was not there was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► a tremendous amount of hardship but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► was being squired around by generals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► you know she wrote a book called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► nightingale in the trenches which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/744">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► but it tells these fascinating stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/749">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► about like oh well and here comes John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► Pershing in the back in the back of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► open car and they they go off together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/758">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► to you know to the Moulin Rouge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/761">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► plates etc you know it's all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/766">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► grandfather David Roderick senior who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/772">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► the son of a Welsh immigrant coal miner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► and who had been raised to succeed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/783">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► America to banish all the the ugliness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/788">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► of being immigrants and so he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/793">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► memorized Whitman and he was a cultured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► he could quote that length from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► Bible and he spoke with a haughty manner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/808">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► and was a young lieutenant and he'd made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/811">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► up a backstory for himself that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► descended from scottish kings and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/818">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► family still thought it was Scottish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► that's when we still thought we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► Scottish he knew he wasn't Scottish but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► he was the one that started this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► alignable anyway they meet they meet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/830">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► world war one in the glamorous heady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/834">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► days at the end of the war when the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► know the far-off cannon fire and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/839">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► they are drinking champagne here at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► in the rearward area and each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► them was actually they're totally full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/848">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► themselves as a member of America's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► aspirational class they were each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/857">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► teach one knowing who they are thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/861">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► Gatsby's party and they saw one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/866">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► across a crowded dance floor and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► sure you know either one of them could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► have used their line you know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/876">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► they could have used that to to meet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► marry someone who had money who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/883">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► perhaps culturally impoverished but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► maybe the heir to the singer sewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► machine family fortune or maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/893">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► heiress of the you know the like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/897">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► grandmother's brother did marry the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/902">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► heiress of the buster brown shoe fortune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► but that money never made it to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► any case it wasn't until they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/913">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► married and back in the states that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► finally realized that they had could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► wing to one another with their Bologna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► at the exact same moment but it said I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► gonna need a little money this month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► yeah they're like oh what but and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/930">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► the real tragedy here is the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► tragedy they were in love and so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/935">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► unthinkable to them that they would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/940">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► that they would separate for such course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► reasons as that they were but their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► entire mutually fraudulent yeah their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► entire founding myth was was a was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/950">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► and so here we are that's ok sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► ancestry they just they just shot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► lie down the pipeline they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► let's just keep telling this lie on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► sides and just you know raise their kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/964">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► descended from the Scottish Lords and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► that there was money waiting in a trunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► is this day when you find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/974">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► looking up in the trees wondering could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► there be a bag of money hanging there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► I do I go I i go it's your birthright is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► there a trunk in the Attic somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► that I haven't seen it's gotta be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/987">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► false bottom here somewhere that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/988">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► everywhere I go I'm not knocking looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/992">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► for the hollow space in the what is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► an American story though it really is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► sweet story it's a very American story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► because there is an element of fake it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► till you make it in america i mean look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► at how many people anglicized their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► it really is such as a chef such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► chance for a fresh start and you get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► you know a haircut and I feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► either one of them had this mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► talent which is business acumen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► they had all the opportunity in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► world and they have this backstory if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► only a little business acumen had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► entered the picture and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► succeeded then the the success in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► America validates the the bullshit story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► in so many families so that all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► well that's why everybody in America is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► descended from robert e lee that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► everybody you know like everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► America has a great you know has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► some part of their family story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► where they arrived on the Mayflower and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► it's all baloney but it but at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► point somebody had success and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► their version of the story was accepted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► and what's funny about my family is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► half of my half of my relatives have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► actually become successful they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► married well and you would if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► they were sitting here right now their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► different from mine because they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► they not only do they accept the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► a geography but like its kind of crucial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► its kind of crucial to their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► identity that some of those stories be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► yeah well I think it's really i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► thinking about my own family and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► I've known and it's you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► everybody anything for a long time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► been critical to maintain the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► I mean for some reason I can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► thinking of like William Faulkner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► like you know and learning these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► different sides of the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► learning what really happened and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► know sometimes that shared familial lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► is can can be like a great bond em don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► I at the beginning of the grunge years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► remember being here in Seattle kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► walking around the bars and the times in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► the towns and listening to people tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► their family story in their backstory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► and realizing that i was in a new world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► because in the grunge ears every kid was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► telling a story about how his family was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► garbage like the fashion at the time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► I'm descended from losers I I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► never had anything I've ever had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► raise myself and maybe my sibling since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► I was young I've always been independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► that's right and it was part of that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► know in 1991 like in 1986 every town had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► a a small handful of punk rockers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► you know who who smoked clove cigarettes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► under the under the statue in the town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► square and they were you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► unless you lived in a fuse and a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► somewhere in southern california and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► washington DC New York I mean there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► there was not if you were growing up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► hiawatha in the early eighties like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► anywhere punk rocker you were you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► very small little group of people but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► 1991 1992 every single person our age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► had some story about themselves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► they had been punked that whole time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► part of that story was that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► they had been abused they'd raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► themselves they had they had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► it was they were from you know they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► from this garbage strain of American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► nobody's and all you have to do is go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► look at their high school yearbook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► you realize oh no that's not true at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► like your pictures in the yearbook but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► yet you like showed up for school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► yeah that's the first sign that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► not a garbage person whatever I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► the garbage person is but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► I heard the word white or the phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► white trash so much in ninety-three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► everybody was claiming to be it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► Seattle especially and up until that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► point it had never occurred to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► anybody would have a a backstory that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► didn't include some at some point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► you had come over on the Mayflower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► because you know because my family was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► so invested in this in in that what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► effectively a dying version of american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► middle class social aspiration my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► cousins were still worried about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► into the Daughters of the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► documentation to prove that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► be members and all of a sudden around me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► all my peers were like my dad's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► prison and I'm you know my mom was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► whore like wait a minute your dad worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► for hewlett-packard and your beer mom uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► you know has only had sex with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► people in her whole life like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► you talking about it was it was just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► much Bologna but but but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► aspiration had had flipped entirely i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► still see that I mean you know I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► see that a lot in my generation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► don't see it in the kids but people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► you're in my age if you if you sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► and hear their family story you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► here a lot of you still hear them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► struggling to took to put across this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► this tale this like Wild West hillbilly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► well yeah and I mean I think part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► is trying to manage expectations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► like set a certain bar so you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► sort of like the kid always turns paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► and label course it's often we do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► you know like if you can create this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► world where like you have him probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► succeeded against all odds and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► obviously are you trying to get yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► the credibility of having more tenacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► more intestinal fortitude than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► people around you but also like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► I mean somewhere talking about the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► day too is doing this kind of like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► of weird weird version of social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► climbing the people do and could I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► it happens most commonly with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► where you try to like canoodle up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► somebody who's a little more famous than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► you in order to canoodle up to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► level from them and you basically get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► the you want to get the equivalent of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► recommendation letter of recommendation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► from from that person but it also it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► also the reason it reminds you of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► fucker stuff is like it's also like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► can decide which parts of your life that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► are really maybe even eighty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1438">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► true you choose to tell people about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► yeah like I can you know I can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► about like you know punk rock shows i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► went to bed at a certain time or i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► talk about being like most talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► senior depending on what suits me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► that's right you were most talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► senior yeah I'll i technically i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► also class clown but you can only win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► eighteen-year-olds I think you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► have won it took me like two years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► get that letter about that I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► who this generation that's coming up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► particularly and I i'm not sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► twitter world in the internet world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► representative it is of the world at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► you're not but that the mom butt we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► joked about this at at at our Roderick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► on the line live shell which is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► idea of like if you if you were 16 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► old right now and you were getting us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► the steady input of check your privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► check your privilege and and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► privileged you are the more the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► other people can point to you and call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► you privileged the actual that the less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► authority you have to speak that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► notion the right like you're the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► group that you represent in my mind has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► had more than ample opportunity to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► represented in the public forum right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► now your turn to shut up and ended feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► bad about it right and so authority to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► speak is becoming in the in the certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► segments of the world which I which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► when I meet people in their early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► overburdened they generally seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► pretty happy generation but then online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► there's this there's this simultaneous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► dialogue which is which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► like shut up shut up shut up like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► all have to shut up even though telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► people to shut up is bullying and bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► but the but the effect of the effect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► firstworldproblems constant sort of wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► after wave of of attempts to censor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► anybody that doesn't have like a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► where where where their story deserves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► to be heard whatever I can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► that it isn't creating a similar kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► identity wave in people where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► searching their family histories they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► searching their own stories for ways in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► which they are victims of history or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► victims of of oppression such that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► that their opinions matter or such that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► they that they no longer have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► self-censor self apologize and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► can that they can actually speak with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► some Authority some Authority earned by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► your forefathers or earned by the burned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► by your victimization and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► imagine what what kind of tangled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► stories people are telling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► themselves in bars where it's not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► anymore to just say like oh my people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► were white trash like you have to say my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► brutalized by history and although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► might appear to be did I retired this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► story i was at that this is so funny of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► its recurring it's occurring to me now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► was in a bar and a guy six-foot-seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► red eye lashes like red guy freckles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► whose name was like Sheamus McKinnon he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► and I are talking in this bar and I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► some reference to to being a Celt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► well you know at as a Celt I'm sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► feel here you use something something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► something something I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► when i said to the guy and he stopped me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► very serious and he said I I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► celtic but I'm native american and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► wasn't sure if he was kidding and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► and he was like you know my grandmother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► grandfather's side you know she was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► was a a you know an Iroquois and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► know I'm I mean I look I guess Irish if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► thats it to you but but I'm to a breeder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► yeah but i'm a native american and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► like wow okay all right i mean i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► know i didn't press him for like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► grandmother I mean it's not important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► because now all the sudden all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► sudden you're like the East you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► star Z you right now it's not my job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► to like it too to do that but maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► maybe all you have to do is declare that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► you know and and now you know it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► there's one part of this and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► only like saying this but you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► seems like there are so many Lauer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► strong voices right now that are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► very angry and the part about it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► think it's kind of a bummer is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► people people are being actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► encouraged to only find a strong voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► if they can do it to immediate out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► immediately ally themselves with a group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► of people there's not that there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► that much encouragement that icy out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► there to be a singular voice anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► because singular being a singular voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► will get you like really smack down at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► controversial eyes what almost anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► it's like it was like you're straying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► too far from the pack i wouldn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► stay politically correct that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► 22 over simplified but there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► so much identity politics right now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► themselves even if they don't if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► like belong with that group you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► all the sympathy in the world that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► want for and it's certainly I mean in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► ideal world we would just have sympathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► for each other for being human beings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► but that doesn't really count anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► now you actually have to you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► show your bona fides that you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► are you are for all practical purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► Native American there for you now have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► your so closely allied with this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► privilege bar that you're allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► have some kind of an opinion at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► point because otherwise you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► you're just another part of the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► yeah well I'm gonna be part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► group if I feel like it's like it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► anybody who strays too far from the pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► or whose gets too far off message is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► really kind of shouted down as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► amorphis blob of the problem the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► percent that whatever all this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► this other nurse other pneus and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► just find some group that will that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► can kind of such sidle up to that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► opposite of the other niggas then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► you're allowed to be all mad and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► allowed to talk if you get off that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► what's confusing is that if you get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► message for them the message being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► the you know the whatever this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► perfect storm we're talking about that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► happening in the culture now the message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► which is very very focused on rights on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► on the rights denied on the elderly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► overdue writes the the rights that are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► mean it's at the chomsky world where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► where the if you get off if you get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► Chomsky message it doesn't matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► outside of that message whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► you are on the other message right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► mean as soon as you get off the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► whatever you're saying even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► presumably still like an innocuous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► material you are you are you are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► accused of speaking on behalf of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► reactionary you're automatically part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► the the counter revolutionary movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► yeah i wrote I I philip seymour hoffman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► died and and not somebody pointed out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► me that I had written a few years ago an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► article about about creativity and drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► and so i reposted it just saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► this is a thing I wrote about rock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► roll about the relationship between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► creativity and drugs and how it how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► would have been that some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► mistakes we make thinking that the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► are connected and I get you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► people replied to me and said thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► for doing that or a nice article and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► then somebody and obviously a fan a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► of me and a fan enough to go retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► click a link and go read an article I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► wrote wrote me and said I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► your article except for the part where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► contribute to the problem because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► implies that women can't be musicians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► and all of this is in a tweet right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► what wasn't overt in the article that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► wrote was that i was writing it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► response to the plight of a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► musician i know in Seattle who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► drinking and drugging herself to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► and everybody in town knew it she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► famous musician she was killing herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► with drugs and I had I had an encounter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► with her in a bar and watched as people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► all around her including a lot of rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► stars who had seen their friends die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► they were all facilitating this drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► and also it's not cool and also oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► that's just how how she is how blank ins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► whatever and so I wrote this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► like no don't sit and watch your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► die that's not cool her drug problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► her creativity are not connected your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► drugs and creativity are not connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► like can we not save this person and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► article was obvious enough to people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► Seattle that I got a few phone calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► from also other rock musicians who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► like thank you for doing that we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► need to do something about her she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► gonna die etc etc and it ended up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► she went to rehab and his eye and his is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► has survived but so I get this tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► from this concerned reader whose like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► I'd I like the article except for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► and and obviously this is a this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► fan and somebody who appreciates where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► she already knows what I'm on about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► she felt and I have no idea how old this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► person is she could be 20 she could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► 50 but she felt her job as a reader was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► was it her antenna were so sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► that she found this moment in the piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► where I said wives and girlfriends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► her alarm bells went off and she needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► to alert me to that and needed basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► to say I see this and you need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► re-educated a third that's the word to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► never use wives and girlfriends again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► without also saying husbands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► boyfriends or without also stipulating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► that that females can be musicians to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► without also you know like you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► you did not you were not being careful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► enough in predicting all the ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► could need to be corrected for emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► person and so this reader in with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► hyper zeroed in sensitivity failed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► recognize that the entire article was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► about a female musician and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► degree to which I masked that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► because I did not want to slam for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► trying to shame and out that right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► mean writing this article for a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► audience all the people that know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► and noemi knew it was about her and knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► it was a a new the article was meant for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► a for an audience of people that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► supposed to recognize themselves in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► and stop helping this woman killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► herself but but the so this close reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► failed to read the big article and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► failed to see that it was that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► that I had worked long and hard to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► it to to take gender out of it in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► to spare this person the embarrassment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► but also even if that weren't the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► wives and girlfriends do facilitate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► are a problem like wives and girlfriends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► are problem and it and I don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► say husbands and boyfriends because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► husband's that our problem for female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► rock musicians are wives basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► know I mean random but suffice to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► that that this that the idea that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► are not exactly on language message that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► you are actually actively working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► behalf of forces of conservatism and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► revanche ism like to be to be off msgs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► not to be neutral it is to be it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► be immediately working on behalf of evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► is is a crazy is a crazy place to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► it is crazy to be challenged to justify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► the political message of every message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► will have to show that you into show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► a way that is frankly most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► extremely hand fisted and not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► elegant and certainly not very subtle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► prove to everybody through three to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► paragraphs that you have done all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► your math and can show it that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► that you know it's I feel like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► so much pressure right now in the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► discourse for everything to be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► there's there's there's really I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► like as soon as somebody starts to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► if I say something as simple as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► what I just don't like arguing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► well then then if i'm not arguing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► somebody about what it is that they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► to argue about that means that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► want to agree on anything I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► want to argue about whether i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► you i just think it's unseemly and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► a thing i don't like doing but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► choosing not to do that it makes it seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► like I'm a mute member of this class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► people who really just actively enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► seeing people put down and I will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► raise my voice that's not the case at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► all right I i do think i do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► people are really complicated problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► and to say something interesting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► anything you have to have the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► amount of introspection and specificity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► and you have to talk about a thing at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► time when there's a sense what's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► confusing about this curl is that she or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► her a woman whoever it was that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► that sent me this tweet that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► immediately also felt empowered at to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► challenge me as though she were my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► thesis advisor you know she was not she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► wasn't coming from a place of her of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► intellectual humility or a place of even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► her her her tone and her her approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► was immediately like for lack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► better term matriarchal or or like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► was coming to me with superior wisdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► right that she had read something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► no one else perceived or that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► cataract he didn't know you had yeah she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► was here now to as you as as we agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► that the the operative term she was here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► to reeducation me from a place i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► and i think backed up by the by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► authority of the party when i whenever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► hear that word I because i used to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► that word in that same kind of context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► it was a very common thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► liberal community to say for many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► years is that really this is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► problem of education we the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► people would be better about not wasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► natural resources if they're just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► educated was promised in education and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► the thing is what what people said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► like what if people said the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► the thing that you need to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► about everything that's wrong with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► political beliefs is it or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► whatever you're wherever your beliefs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► are is just a little it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► question of Education yeah you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► information that we have real and so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► the times you get into an argument at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► sports bar with some jackass who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► trying to tell you that the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► shouldn't kids shouldn't be immunized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► and you know and for that matter women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► should be in the home or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► chemtrails well it but really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► anything that you believe when you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► soon as you start telling people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► it's a matter of education I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► lose a little bit of your intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► authority because at that point you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► what you're saying is I will sit here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► and and patiently listen to what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► have to say until I get the opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► to show you how you are fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► wrong and that you will never be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► advance intellectually until you accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► what it is that I know is true it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► a matter of education but 22 sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► fucking Pol Pot the 20 books that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► read from the age of sixteen to twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► eleven by the same author the sum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► some of which were in a my high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► syllabus some of them were my college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► syllabus some of them i found through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► friends but those you know 20 to 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► books that i have really your red and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► digested are the sum total of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► knowledge and the 20 or 30 books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► you've read some of which overlap mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► probably a lot of them do we both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► so let's say you know the thirty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► of the books of the 20 to 30 books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► you've read uh and and also your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► intellectual process in digesting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► whereas the 20 to 30 books that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► read have given me this like this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► diamond tip insight into the whole human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► I I let me do one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► there with what that person said which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► I mean if I have somebody I mean as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► as we kid and stuff on here when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► say like super like racially offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► things and are obviously like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► dropping dropping science on you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► how the world is and that bugs me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► know i don't want to be around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► sure but you know first of all I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► sure what I can do to necessarily turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► that person around that I've never met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► but you know what with what that woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► said i would be even though i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► never do this publicly but I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► inclined to say so you decided you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► want to write songs for being a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► because of what i said well no of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► okay why is that well because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► smarter than that I know okay so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► assume that all these other people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► you theoretically care about this mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► of people that are so stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► malleable that these words that I chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► this ese are going to make them not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► to start a band is that is that the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► that you're going to make because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► the sudden now you're the one who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► smarter than all these other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► because you see you see through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► matrix right you that they live thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► where you've got the sunglasses right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► and that's what i think is actually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► a little it's a little bit offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► because you get to pick and choose like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► who you get to decide you're smarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► than and it's really just a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► going in educating everybody about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► these little people that need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► paternalistic way this is what's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► interesting about what's happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► France right now with the with the guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► on the lady a guy doctor lady in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► of I think the president was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► intercourse with someone who wasn't his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► Oh see that happens a lot there no that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► doesn't interest me at all know that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► the whole the whole notion of French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► identity in sort of the the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► history of France post-revolution was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► the french said we don't see race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► we don't know if you come to France and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► adopt the french language and learn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► French culture you are a Frenchman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► it doesn't matter if you were born in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► Algeria or in Vietnam we the the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► a Frenchman of a other of a citizen of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► France is that you adopt the these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► the following premises that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► that the the the citizen has life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► liberty and the gala tea and that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► all equal under the law and you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► lot of notions in France that came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► the American Revolution a lot of notions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► in France that are internal to France [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► but that there is a French identity that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► supersedes all other cultural racial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► economic identities and that for 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2752">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► years has been the core of the of what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► meant to be French and and and in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► it was the most democratic notion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► citizenship you think most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► believe that I think in France they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► really do including people who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► Gallic white people absolutely i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► this is this is a this is the and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► is francis version of the melting pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► you know America's version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► melting pot is show up now you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► American and you and anybody can become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► a million work hard and play by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► everybody's vote and it's fair here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► so you can be anybody could be President [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► you know that's the american version the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► understandably more identity-based like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► it isn't just that you that anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► be President it is that we are all now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► equal under the idea that we are that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► are Frenchmen like we are brothers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► sisters brothers and sisters right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► political politically brothers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► sisters you know I it's a very it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► a super seductive idea to them and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► the core of the whole idea i mean when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► we we only look at it from outside and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► lot of it seems a lot of it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► the the French pomposity and the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► the arrogance like the this is the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► is the sunny side of that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► this is the this is what's beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► about being French but as in the last 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► years there have been these massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► waves of immigration to France and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► French have been wrestling with how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► maintain this thing that is so key to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► them and it's like it is it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► religion to them which you would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► also include the things like language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► and trying to lock down on things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► love facts i mean the effect of running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► the French language to stay intact as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► languages key is is the is the heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► it it's the key to and so their approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► to immigration has always been welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► thank you for coming to France here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► your book of becoming French it involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► you now speaking French and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► French and at home I suppose if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► to keep eating couscous here that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► fine here are here is a recipe book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► how to make your couscous taste more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► french but in the meantime we are happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► to have you here and we are going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► everything we can to create a a a racist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► assuming of course that you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► gypsy or a Jew but let's leave that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► aside but actually we welcome the Jews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► now still a little weird on the gypsies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► as as successive waves of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► emigrated from North Africa now all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► sudden they're these gigantic ghettos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► where the population is largely arab and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► muslim and so the French have been going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► incredible identity like the national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► cultural identity problem where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► like well we can't have people walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► around in burkas because it's not French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► it isn't a question of that we are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► racist against Muslims or anti-muslim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► but but the goal in France is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► all be French it is how we manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► equality it is our whole idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► equality that we all be not the same but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► that we share the same values that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► that we all be primarily French right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► well that we share these cause these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► core values which are you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► kind of it that there's a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► argument happening in America except we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► don't share core values here but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► post-revolution values they they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► they do or they it's their values are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► are are closer to the heart of the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► of themselves this shared sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► values and it's you know it is a at well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► so it has driven them now to pass a law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► against wearing burkas and from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► American sensibility we're you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► law that that you can't wear a burka in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► France and in a public school or in a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► an office like a government office we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► just Americans freak out at the notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► and it seems very paternalistic and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► it seems i want a paternalistic it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► totalitarian right to tell taryn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► from the French standpoint it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► they are trying to us it its full from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► the French idea it is a very liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► idea this is what's confusing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► liberal notion of like French liberalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► requires that everybody aspire to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► part of this family and to be outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► totalitarianism or to be an act of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► hostility that threatens the whole that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► threatens the safety of their of them of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► their melting pot right if you don't if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► you don't want to melt into being French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► like being French is at is at the key of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► having all the rights of man that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► that that you can bend therefore not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► expect like you can't expect the rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► if you don't also perform the duties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► so they're so their culture is at war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► with itself right now it's tearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► itself apart and it is it it's it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► it's very interesting to look at it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► here to look at it from the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► States and see that that that there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► mean obviously like the lepen people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► be a cultural xenophobes in France are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► are on this issue too but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► whole stripe of people that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► that are coming at this question from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► liberal democratic perspective there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► that is that's that's very confusing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► watch from here and very I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► yeah I mean I all the lofty ideas are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► it's easy enough to agree on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► like do you believe in freedom of speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► of course everybody agrees and freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► of speech and so you get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► specifics of what that really means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► are you allowed to say things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► aren't true are you allowed to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► things that are unkind are you allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► to say things that startup hate when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► people are you you know do I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► the shot fire in a crowded theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► yea yea or you know or I think some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► people would say this could go on really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► any end of the spectrum versus the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► should I be expected to pay to publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► speech that I definitely think is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► for example do i right you should we be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► paying should we be paying to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► textbooks in our schools that say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► should we be paying to have textbooks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► our school that say that evolution is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► I mean you know that's right that is i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► probably splitting hairs here but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► think anybody agrees on those big issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► its just its implementation details but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► there where you get all the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► well this is why the Supreme Court of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► the United States and the Congress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► the presidency were such a what were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► such a brilliant idea and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► idea that the Supreme Court could take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► law and set limits on aspects of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► know that that that that that boat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► Congress made law it went past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► President and he got to you know he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► to take a swipe at it if he could but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► then the citizens to challenge the law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► and the court could make a well could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► the court could rule on beat you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► behalf of us like the idea that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► was an us survived until not very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► ago and it's it's a it's a thing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► well yeah and that that where I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► like when it is not kind of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► Supreme Court is it speaking of us but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► its its kind of to say like is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► oh no I mean well you know it that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► modern problem that the Supreme Court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► was always meant to be in it was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► meant to evolve and the idea that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► founders didn't intend that the court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► would interpret the conversation in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► modern terms is a crazy conservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► reactionary nut story that the same kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3355">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► of people think the Bible was written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► English yeah right i mean has always had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► the same 66 books it if you've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► anything about the founders the Scalia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► notion that they meant that this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► know that that that that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► founders meant that we should try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► get inside their minds and think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► what they meant instead of that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► meant exactly you know that they met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► what they wrote and that we should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► like interpreting that but based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► fact that we now have handheld computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► computers are hey al computer it's um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► like it it seems crazy to me but no I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► mean the the evolve and ever-evolving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► notion that there was an American soul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► of a kind or that there was an American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► identity that we were all aspiring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► melt into was a notion that was still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► place in a largely in place at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► the school's when you and I were kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► and it was it was fraying and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► obviously there was a there were whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► segments of the population that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► we're not even included in that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► never included us in that and we want we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► want entry into it at the time even then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► that it was only the fringe voices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► said we don't want entry into it we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► we want to tear that identity of park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► disenfranchised only wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► and it's only in the last time you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► said the same have the same rights that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► anybody else already had to have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► the same rights and to be included in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► that notion of American and to be and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► have their voices considered and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► to just expand the franchise to include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► everybody that really was already in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► which is something that the French did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► much better than the Americans did it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► the sense that they headaches that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► that that franchise was expanded I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► and obviously like the Dreyfus Affair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► whenever the that they up through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► war they were still pretty bad on Jews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► and and and Roma but the the French of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► it have sought to expand that franchise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► a lot more liberally than the Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► did but it's only in the last 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► that that the idea that that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► american-ness even that that that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► shared aspirations that a commonality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► would be something that we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► disparage and something that an educated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► liberal person would want no part of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► would would want would instead choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► mock and dried you know that that to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► and talk about a like a an American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► identity to talk about that as something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► intrinsically oppressive rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► something that is of a framework that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► can make that and we should be trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► make better always and that making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► more inclusive is our goal rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► to you know to destroy them to destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► the framework in favor of who you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► implying who are you saying once that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► I don't like the far right wing nut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► well like going to the compound kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► people I feel like that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► pound thread in liberalism now although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► it isn't to the compound it is to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► multiculturalism to the point that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► that it is that it's like george bush's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► thousand points of light except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► thousand points of light is a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► equal viewpoints none of which can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► privileged over any other so that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► a so that every voice is heard in equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► volume and in that constellation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► voices there will be some collected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► wisdom there will be some there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► there will be a common knowledge or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► understanding that we can we cannot know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► yet we cannot know the result of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► experiment until it we have achieved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► and to guess at it is to second-guess it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► which is which is to stand in the way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► it and that are that the only valid goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► can be a time when all voices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► represented with with no privilege and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► this is the idea of this of the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► privilege can and and and and flinging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► privilege at people as an epithet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► this is this is the liberal side of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► yeah that only when we arrive at a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► where no voice has pride of privileged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► no voices heard more loudly than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► other can we fully know ourselves or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► have a tour or be close to achieving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► like a understanding human understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► or collective wisdom and it's a it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► what I think is the under girding idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3710">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► Quasimodo axis to move on up on the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► of the intellectual world in American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► to always be attacking privilege to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► always be second-guessing language to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► always be equalizing voices the the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► premise and it's an unspoken premise no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► one ever discusses it openly but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► only premise I can see at the heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► it is the idea that only once all voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► are heard only was all voices are equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► can we know can we even know what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► project is & big because as you as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► as you see any time someone stands up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► and says i have an opinion the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► question is what right do you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► speak who are you are you are going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► his on his billiard behalf key to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► right are you just another middle-class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► white person because we've heard what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► you have to say and it you know it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► blanket dismissal of antenna and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► reality is what any one person has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► irrespective of what their races or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► their classes right i mean the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► ideas the whole premise of it is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► can exist in one's mind that yes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► influenced by its by its culture yes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► influenced by its experience but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► that's the beautiful thing about an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► you can have an idea that is in conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► with how you were raised with how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► were how you other the culture in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► advertise themselves like I can think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► opposite of me and that's what makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► a thought right and to to argue that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► thoughts are are all water stamped with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► at its core and what thats whats in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► that's what's insane about about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► notion is that ultimately it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► anti thinking and it you know it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► like it it's seeking to kill this idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► that you can be that there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► about being French or about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► American that is that's worth preserving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► or that is an identity that that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► responsibilities as well as rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► attended to it that every right has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► has a concomitant responsibility that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► hmm i don't know i'm john pretty I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► pretty skeptical about first of all I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► I feel like if you look at any anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► that people who are in a minority and RB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► being treated poorly end up getting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► of that there has to be a period along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► what did stalin calling you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► that period where you at the the shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► was called the dictatorship of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► proletariat what they called it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► dictatorship of the proletariat there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► going to be this period i gotta let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► guys know things are going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► little bit rough here in the Soviet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► Union while we make sure that we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► yeah let's say 30 million dead but ok no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► no i'm not i'm not trying to draw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► line exactly what I'm saying that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► think if you look at any group you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► to be radicalized at some point in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► to get noticed and in order to be heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► understanding hangs this is kind of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► is real screwed-up people are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► getting lynched like innocent innocent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► people are being lynched for no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► and like that's it that we have to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► this guy's this is that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► terrible thing and so there's a period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► where you have to set yourself apart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► and be heard and but I don't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► this is maybe this is the privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► talking but I feel like there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► are so many people who cannot wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► lose their own identity inside of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► bigger group because that's where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► feel like they did the identity that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► fine ironically enough is by being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► the group that's shouting everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► down and you know is 011 him while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► understand I understand I understand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► respect the need to be heard and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► your needs redressed however you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► I've always I'm always a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► skeptical of people who seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► getting addicted to being the underdog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► well my people were super white trash so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► I don't know what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► oh you have people to my super white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► trash people just like basically had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► do it all themselves well look both my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► parents were addicted to super fun and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► had to raise myself inside of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► diaper super fun you know about you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► probably had cocaine we can do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► cooking we had super fun super fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► yeah yeah there's a pencil shavings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► coop you snorted it or I shot it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► matter didn't do anything to ruin their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► you know there are 300 million Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► and that is a tiny tiny tiny fraction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► the people in the world really a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► number of people like two percent so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► no I can't be right I'm not doing math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► well there's a six billion people right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► yeah I think closer to seven and in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► of in a it and I and I really think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► that at least right now that we America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► has stopped manufacturing cars really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► except for chrysler i don't know i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► about the possibilities let's extract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► some for Christ's yeah I heard her I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► heard the measure radiant and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► I was having a stroke they put their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► potential is there something more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► American than America but i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► so i don't think so how the turnout was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► a dignified ah he looked a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► plastic surgery but his face was and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► can space was super init bobtailing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► his face we're talking about chrysler in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► yeah he looked like his face looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► why don't you remember when he wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► even let people use his songs first up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► yeah that those days are gone but but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► yeah like calendar let's make your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► because will is anything more American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► than America even that is really what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► we're exporting his ideas and the Act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► the ideas and the the the bullshit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► we are coming up with in terms of energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► entertainment infotainment and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► amusement and the info musn't and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► huge fire hose of ideas that we are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► spraying into the air like being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► entirety of it is a product of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► privilege that we have scraped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► stolen from the rest of the world like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► we have created hey a salon in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► country out of some some shit we found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► on the ground when we got here that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► that we that we killed the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► were here already and took and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► the raping that we do the daily daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► cultural raping that we do we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► created a salon where we are producing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► chrysler ads angry birds and a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► Sheila booth movies when you put it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► way and I'm so like criticism from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► within here seems so like so much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► product I mean it's all still in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► ship down like all all of the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► criticism all of the angry Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► yelling it's all in the same fountain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► we are deriving me where we are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► producing on behalf of the world right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► now in this moment in time and a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► fifty years from now we may be speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► Indonesian here and that all may be gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► up and right now it seems like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► open-mindedly as possible the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► we're making the ideas that we're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► it seems like an incredible missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► opportunity to not be adopting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► espousing the most open-minded possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► way of thinking as a group of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► as a culture because we are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► where we're in a rare moment we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► we're being asked to do is generate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► ideas all we are responsible for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► making words and ideas and games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► plays and to be to be turning on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► ourselves and you know hyper nitpicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► looking for a grammar of of equality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4313">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► when every idea could be in play every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► single notion is up in the air its it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► a it's a strange impulse and one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► don't know it's very human but and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► when you have them we spend your day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► looking for that grammar of equality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► something else is gonna happen when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► talked about before which is the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► words problem and so we all we all agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► or are compelled to agree that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► is this increasing corpus of bad words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► these things we must never use or we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► must always use Oh bad ideas are are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► are the real scary thing right but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► bad ideas and the problems I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► get at though is you can continue to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► your southern sheriff speak around your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► buddies and that's not gonna do a damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► thing except you make you feel more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► marginalized now it's for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► are all of our friends over here on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► left side of the dial there are just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► many people on the other side who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► just as incredulous about how they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► yeah and and that just we just keep we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► just keep making that split like broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► and broader when we keep saying which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► ideas are ok to think the idea that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► curious to me right now is that football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► is this terrible crime that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► inflicting on football players right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► that football is violent which is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► new idea i guess to some people that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► permanently like well yeah and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► these and that these football players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► this is the beginning of every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► these sort of screens for our for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► amusement of some rich corporations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► these football players are being paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► millions of dollars to hit each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► really hard and then 20 years later they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► have parkinson's disease and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► thing that should be outlawed and it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► the premise of that argument that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► is what this is what confuses me it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► like threaded throughout these arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► is a kind of weird it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► argument that the catholic church uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► to fight abortion and the death penalty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► it is the idea that human life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► somehow sacred above and beyond any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► individual human life and what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► human life actually is or represents but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► that the I that the that human life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► capital H capital L is somehow sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► and more important more valuable than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► might appear to be in any one instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► and so the fact that these football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► players are hurting themselves and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► and that they do it for great reward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► that they are heroes and champions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► then later on the they suffer and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► when maybe when somebody said to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► when they were sixteen or twenty like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► you know someday you're going to suffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► maybe they didn't know exactly what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► meant and they agreed to something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► they couldn't I couldn't possibly have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► understood all the way implying that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► people who gave him that money new to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► pretty good certainty that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► going to get right the head injuries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► some of the people that give him that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► money were like actually relishing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► parkinson's disease but that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► and I think about this in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► Muhammad Ali one of the great champions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► of Human of the 20th century and human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► life and human Muhammad Ali is suffering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► from from a tremor from Parkinson's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► a tremor that that we that that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► shames us and that we wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► wished on him he is our hero but would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► anyone have had Muhammad Ali not fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► would anyone have asked Muhammad Ali to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► have fought one fight fewer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► Muhammad Ali fought he was a hero to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► world he's the most recognized name on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► the planet and and in his later years he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► suffers the battle damage and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► idea that we would put a stop that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► other that we would do anything other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► than celebrate every aspect of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► know because the fact is we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► if Muhammad Ali had never boxed whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► or not he would have gotten Parkinson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► anyway because we don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► Parkinson's hoo keek you know my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► grand aunt died of Parkinson's and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► so wait now is you're saying so I'm part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► of that is that we've got information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► that we didn't have 4050 years ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► yes you complete using you're saying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► retroactive continuity let's go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► sort of let that's all collectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► disparage what boxing has done over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► years in order to make sure it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► I'm but yeah you don't think that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► should take the information we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► about things like traumatic brain injury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► well I don't have heavier guys hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► harder you know I would see what seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► to me is that I me know when i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► brooklyn now and every kid under the age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► of 14 is wearing a bicycle helmet to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► to the store and not even on a bicycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► the parents are just putting their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► putting helmets on him just to go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► the door because of what we think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► know about traumatic brain injury and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► ultimately the world is dangerous human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► life is nasty brutish and short we not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► one of us dies the way we would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► there is no way for us to live forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► there is no way for us to escape disease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► there is no way for us to escape injury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► and yet in these certain pockets of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► we suddenly described all this injustice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► to certain kinds of injuries to certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► kinds of disease to certain kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► misfortune and by ascribing injustice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► it it doesn't mean that those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► actually are in just it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► we've described injustice to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► and so the traumatic brain injury that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► football player receives is now a source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► of all this this conversation to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► football-playing but the traumatic brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► injury of all the US soldiers that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► just receiving brain injury as a result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► of bombs going off around them all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► that's a conversation that we're tabling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► for now and the fact that people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► traumatic brain injury all the time just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► driving in their cars or playing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► is a thing that we cannot describe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► injustice to so we just accept as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► of life and the reality is we all die so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► soon and that human life actually is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► that precious you know and that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► death is a tragedy to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► standing immediately in the vicinity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► it but as you get further away from any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► one particular death in either time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► geography that death recedes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► importance until right now there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► hundreds of thousands of people dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► all around the world of various causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► some of them incredibly in just but none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► of us are thinking about them or have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► the capacity to think about them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► what what what confuses me is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► sometimes we will decide that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► person's life or a small group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► people's lives have this sanctity all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► a sudden and that their deaths are so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► just because we imagine that the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► the there's injustice in the prematurity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► of their death that their debt their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► lives could have been prolonged or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► that the you know that the the deaths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► are the product of some conspiracy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► it's never a question of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► Gandolfini's death is a tragedy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► of all the movies he didn't make and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► saw a movie with him the other day and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► was like that makes me sad his death is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► a tragedy i wish i had seen some movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► he made but some more movies that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► made but really no James Gandolfini died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► when he died and he did what he did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► there isn't a tragic element to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► ultimately its it is a it in a way there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► all things are happening as they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► happening you know it's it is a trick of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► the mind to think that really that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► is such a thing as injustice and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► isn't to say that that trick of the mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► isn't real and that we don't live in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► world where that trick of the mind is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► real to us as anything but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► technology of the mind it's an it's up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► it's an idea a mental process that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► don't investigate we we just think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► accept the notion that but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► tragic deaths and the more boxes we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► take off prevent to bowl a violent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► uncool somebody else profited you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► we're checking up all these boxes in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► the injustice checklist and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► check out enough of them and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► this is an injustice and this other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► is more just and then that one is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► righteous longer whatever and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► like it's all part of a it's all part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► a game we're playing with ourselves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► we're not that we don't reflect on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► guess is my only comment on it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPQcJ5Y/4971">TS</a>]