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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 105: "Hippie Clean"

 

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00:00:15   starts with your website as you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/18">TS</a>]

00:00:23   hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/23">TS</a>]

00:00:28   bloop beep boop boop boop man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/28">TS</a>]

00:00:33   communication is complicated hurt her so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/33">TS</a>]

00:00:41   John what are you up to these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   oh you know just students and cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/43">TS</a>]

00:00:48   around the house who I not really very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   good at staying on top of it and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/51">TS</a>]

00:00:55   gets than the house gets dirty and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   it right then I really don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   deal with it and then house just keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/59">TS</a>]

00:01:00   getting dirtier and dirtier and dirtier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   so so too it's spring cleaning day but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/62">TS</a>]

00:01:06   also have to go to portland today so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   can't really in a blob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   yeah you know me or her mom back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/70">TS</a>]

00:01:15   right yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   sheesh being a housewife is not easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   the grass is always greener other parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   of the house that you enjoy cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22   interesting well you know you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/82">TS</a>]

00:01:27   problem with me is that I do not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   clear delineation in my mind between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32   cleaning and organizing haha hall so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/92">TS</a>]

00:01:36   meet people all the time who described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   this so not all the time but i have i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   had it described to me that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   people who are neat but dirty and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/102">TS</a>]

00:01:46   who are clean a messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   hmm and I think that my instinct is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/109">TS</a>]

00:01:53   the clean but messy side I don't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   bunch i don't like dirt on things i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   you know I'm kind of a little fastidious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/118">TS</a>]

00:01:59   even about like scum but there's a mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/119">TS</a>]

00:02:03   all over the place right and that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/123">TS</a>]

00:02:07   nature of your of your work as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   collector i have to imagine that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   collector and organizer and a and a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   a BB stacker but then but then we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/132">TS</a>]

00:02:16   it we have in my little plan here a term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   called the hippie clean which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/139">TS</a>]

00:02:22   know if you're ever been to it if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   ever been to the home of a married happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/144">TS</a>]

00:02:28   couple like it's particularly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   middle-aged or late middle-aged married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   happy couple houses is straightened but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/153">TS</a>]

00:02:38   if you look down by the floorboards you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/158">TS</a>]

00:02:39   look in the corners it's just like crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/159">TS</a>]

00:02:43   of a thousand years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   yes spiderwebs and stuff you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   just like just like that kind of greasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/167">TS</a>]

00:02:48   dirt that's just been it's been kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/168">TS</a>]

00:02:51   like the pressed into the floorboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   pressed into all the joints and and dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   bunnies everywhere it's a hippie clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   the house is straight like things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   organized things are you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/181">TS</a>]

00:03:02   like there's that there aren't soup cans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   step out of months but it's a hippie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/185">TS</a>]

00:03:09   clean they have dogs in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   yeah one time i was in england and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   stayed in a woman's house there and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/194">TS</a>]

00:03:18   she had said ducks in the house up she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/198">TS</a>]

00:03:22   left the back door open and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   sitting in the living room and like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/203">TS</a>]

00:03:24   ducks walked in i guess being kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27   pleasant at a place i'm visiting it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   very it was very traditionally English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   because they really they really prize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/212">TS</a>]

00:03:36   their eccentrics the Ducks were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   embarrassed and like shanking she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/220">TS</a>]

00:03:40   she was a classic English eccentric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/220">TS</a>]

00:03:45   she left she had ducks in the house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   I I mean I approved right but it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   something I was gonna have to clean so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   anyway my house i prefer to have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   be like hygienic but then stuff all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/235">TS</a>]

00:03:59   the place but the problem is when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   start cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02   I immediately start organizing uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   and then i get off the track i get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/244">TS</a>]

00:04:08   the trail because i realize i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   enough I'll folders and then i say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/249">TS</a>]

00:04:13   don't want to buy file folders at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14   office depot because they are new file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/254">TS</a>]

00:04:18   their modern construction and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   flimsy and they are no good so I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   find some vintage file folders i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   exactly which doctor if you're lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   enough to run across a box of old file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   folders at a good will never go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   boy I'll tell you so then it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/271">TS</a>]

00:04:32   I guess Mac pitches one of those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   know the other day I was at the goodwill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   I found another typewriter that I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/276">TS</a>]

00:04:40   have but you know now i have like now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43   have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   well I'm i don't quite have a collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   of old typewriters but I definitely have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   a handful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   let's say let's say plus or minus five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/290">TS</a>]

00:04:54   here good for the environment John and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57   and i love this typewriter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/297">TS</a>]

00:04:58   beautiful but then I was like oh I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   some i'm not going to use my old paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   in this i need new paper to go with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   so I'm scanning the goodwill scanning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06   scanning can i find this beautiful blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   paper that was meant it's like a heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/308">TS</a>]

00:05:12   bond it was meant to be the front page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   of a other report like it's blue kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/314">TS</a>]

00:05:18   like a little bit it's almost cardstock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   e the entire box of it that was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23   fifty dollars in 1965 and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/323">TS</a>]

00:05:27   ninety-nine cents and I said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/327">TS</a>]

00:05:30   what I'm gonna buy this I'm gonna buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/330">TS</a>]

00:05:31   this and i'm just going to use it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   Merlin use file cards i'm going to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/333">TS</a>]

00:05:34   one word on one of these beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   50-year old pieces of paper and I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   going to crumple it up and throw it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   the window because i can't because fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/343">TS</a>]

00:05:43   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   yeah the hippie clean i never heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/346">TS</a>]

00:05:47   term i like it and i am sympathetic in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/347">TS</a>]

00:05:51   previous life I live with a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54   inherit once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   mm and we we were neither of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   particularly tidy people but one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   that we could make ourselves kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   clean the house was to have a party so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   you plan a party and then you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09   clean the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/369">TS</a>]

00:06:09   YC right it's kind of you know like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   people like to make deadlines for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   themselves and that like motivates them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14   to do stuff and this worked like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   least once a year we clean the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   because we have a party but clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   house in advance of the party or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21   clean the house after the bar no no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   idea was people are coming over want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   place to be nicely gonna clean house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   and like over time I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/387">TS</a>]

00:06:28   people change and i think things really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   kind of deteriorated with our with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   feelings about the house and but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33   was one particular party that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   famous amongst my friends where we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/395">TS</a>]

00:06:38   two things that were a little bit novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39   one was that all of the stuff that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/399">TS</a>]

00:06:43   all over the place like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   accumulation of like boxes and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   things well do I we quickly put sheets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51   over all this things like it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   English manor that we're leaving for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/415">TS</a>]

00:06:55   haha but the real money shot we took all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/415">TS</a>]

00:06:59   of the dirty dishes and all the plates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   all the glasses all the silverware we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   put in a box put it in the Attic right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   and then we didn't get it after that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   just left it up there o.o just set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   all the yeah that's right i'm stressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   and we're so now I kind of a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   analogy for from my life i think i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   sitting here sitting right now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20   looking let's see how many boxes can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/440">TS</a>]

00:07:21   see i have the ic3 milk crates a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/441">TS</a>]

00:07:26   four of those cardboard legal archive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   whoo that's good that's a good box is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   costly box but it's a strongbox an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   icebox I have a box here of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   forty-fives not pistols but but records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/456">TS</a>]

00:07:40   that's a different i have a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   place for about three or an insert i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   have a bunch of like shoeboxes full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   stuff i'm looking around and i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   thought i was going to be able to count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   for you the number of boxes i can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   from where I'm sitting that are full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   like projects that at one point we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/476">TS</a>]

00:07:59   screwed across the floor and then got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/479">TS</a>]

00:08:02   all collected and put into a box for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   I thought I was gonna be able to count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   the number of boxes but then I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   as I as I turn around you're too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   boxes to count John I got boxes on boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   on boxes I got a box over here just full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   of wallets that check your privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/495">TS</a>]

00:08:20   that Boggs you're like I see a box for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/500">TS</a>]

00:08:24   Waldo the ultimate first world problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   you have an entire box full of what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   have a box full of water i have a out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   now here's one that I don't I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   don't know what to do with I have a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   crate full of slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/514">TS</a>]

00:08:38   ah now what do you do with that i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   you can throw them away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   you can't throw away i have a slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   projector i have carousels i could put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   all the sly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   I could do the thing where you sit for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   week and put slides and carousels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   put your slide projector up and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   slides but then then what do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   something you can I could ever there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   room in my house I could have just full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   of slides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   yeah i know you probably are aware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05   this but you know if you find a box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   looks like it's particularly good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   know you can send those offering them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/549">TS</a>]

00:09:10   scanned yeah but I mean that at what at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   what cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14   hmm it's not really it's not cheap to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   have that done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17   have you ever thought of becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18   someone's thesis you would be i can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/558">TS</a>]

00:09:22   think of probably half a dozen people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   who are probably casting about should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   read about social media and what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   Martin Bormann know what if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31   were to turn you into their thesis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   project imagine some smarty from u-dub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36   comes out there probably a young woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/576">TS</a>]

00:09:39   will come out there and and just and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   work on you like convinces him to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/581">TS</a>]

00:09:45   going somewhere different than expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   i like that at one point recently I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/586">TS</a>]

00:09:50   realized that I had too many baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51   hats that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54   I mean I could wear different baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/594">TS</a>]

00:09:55   hat every day for a year and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/595">TS</a>]

00:09:59   I can't just if you put baseball hats in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   a drawer in a box or not in a closet he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/602">TS</a>]

00:10:06   you don't see them you don't think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   him you're not like oh where's that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   baseball hat you know you have to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   of have baseball hats out so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   remember them and so that you wear them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   and I hit on this great idea which is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/615">TS</a>]

00:10:19   bought some rope and I attach the rope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/619">TS</a>]

00:10:26   to the end of a the end of the curtain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/626">TS</a>]

00:10:30   rod and just let it hang down and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/630">TS</a>]

00:10:34   found some very nicely made vintage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/634">TS</a>]

00:10:38   clothes pins and I have closed pinned my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/638">TS</a>]

00:10:43   baseball hats to this rope so that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/643">TS</a>]

00:10:46   either side of the window hanging from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   each side of the curtain rod is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/649">TS</a>]

00:10:52   little little chain of baseball hats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/652">TS</a>]

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00:10:59   it very appealing now i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/659">TS</a>]

00:11:03   this is a case where if a stranger came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/663">TS</a>]

00:11:06   into the house the stranger might look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   at that and say weird or say someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/668">TS</a>]

00:11:13   special little bright lights different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   this is making me very uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/675">TS</a>]

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00:11:26   like I see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/686">TS</a>]

00:11:27   hmm and for me this like a decorative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   element framing the windows in in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/690">TS</a>]

00:11:34   chains of baseball hats is very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/694">TS</a>]

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00:13:01   court six to one of the things one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   the reasons that for a long time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   wanted to have a downtown loft one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   these one of these lofts with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   30-foot ceilings now at one point I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   live in a loft like that 44 46 years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   lived in a loft with with really high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   ceilings this when you when you peed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   imbecile yeah right when I what I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   the lot that loft did not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/805">TS</a>]

00:13:25   right let's just say that but as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   adult I've always kind of wanted to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   in a loft that was properly done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   had a kitchen and a bathroom and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   those enormous walls was just shelves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/814">TS</a>]

00:13:38   all the way to the ceiling with a with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   ladder on wheels and on that set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/820">TS</a>]

00:13:43   shelves i imagined that they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   typewriters and there would be cowboy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   boots and there would be places for LPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   a look at been against happy right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/830">TS</a>]

00:13:54   it would be it would absolutely look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   like a like a clicker daggers burgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/836">TS</a>]

00:14:00   biggerstaff and pits could get started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   Slappy's um and and yet all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/843">TS</a>]

00:14:07   things would not just be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   tchotchkes picked out by a set designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   for a theme restaurant they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   things that were part of my life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   that you know i would actually go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   sometimes and take that typewriter down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   and use it i have a cursive typewriter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   how sweet it is pretty nice but I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/861">TS</a>]

00:14:24   live in a in a lot for the giant wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   that looks like a Bennigan's i live in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   an old farmhouse and it's much harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/868">TS</a>]

00:14:32   have everything on display and not look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/872">TS</a>]

00:14:36   like well like a crazy person and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   is something I I fight against every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/878">TS</a>]

00:14:41   single day better just keep it in box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   its give it the boxes stacked around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46   around the living room up in my face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/886">TS</a>]

00:14:50   fuck apple so come upstairs downstairs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   want to show you my hats now the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   lately as I got it in my head that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/895">TS</a>]

00:14:58   gonna start being stuff boy is you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01   a project I've never done it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   uh-huh but i but I started to feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   look I've gotten rid of all the trash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   all that's left is them is good stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/908">TS</a>]

00:15:12   got i don't want to cut into the meat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/912">TS</a>]

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00:15:58   five big boxes of stuff that that I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/958">TS</a>]

00:16:02   to get out of the house because if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   don't eventually I'm going to forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   what's in the boxes and I'm gonna walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   past them on dams and say what's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11   those boxes and then I'm gonna look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   him and it's gonna seem like a treasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   hunt and I'm gonna pull all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   out of the boxes and be like oh this old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   why was I ever getting rid of this huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   and then all the stuff is going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/985">TS</a>]

00:16:26   back out and it's gonna all go back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   circulation and that's not what i want i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   chose some things there in some boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   it's time for them to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   yeah it's not one simple thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   you're doing here it is a part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   larger thought technology time to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   getting rid of it is part of it to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   it out of the ecosystem and that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   makes everything else that's in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47   collection all the more valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   that's right these are the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:50   survived the colon hmm i went around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   tonight and i dabbed a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   lambs blood on the front door of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55   everything I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:58   guess who uses tape any man accept this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   is what you need a master student in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   there John somebody to come in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05   catalog all this on a computer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   somebody that's doing a thesis I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   want to just get rid of this stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10   also want to tell the story of it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   also part of the ebay idea was that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   would be able to tell the story of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   thing on ebay and then somebody could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   appreciate the story and by the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   and say like I didn't just buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   thing i also bought the story that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   with it but if I had somebody that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:29   really that was getting college credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30   for that everybody wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   yeah I've been attracted to the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:37   those services that will put stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40   ebay for you because I mean and not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43   like heirloom quality typewriters or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   anything necessarily but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46   something that's like slightly more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   tangled USB cable and slightly less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   like an heirloom Underwood curse off but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   there's that stuff in between where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:56   you're like just think like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57   even if I don't make a lot of money off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00   of this it'll be out of here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01   I won't have to have a yard sale which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   is incredibly undignified the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   oh I every time we do that I swear I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   never do it again and I think it's stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   the last thing we started with stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   people with the width and people come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   and say I'll give you a dollar for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   a dollar-for-dollar County yard sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   you've been going to know you get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20   out there I mean you know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   whole business this is a whole racket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22   people to where they come out you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   okay come out and 8 a.m. on saturday no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:28   early birds as people there at six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   o'clock looking in your mail slot trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:31   to figure out what you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   ah as they figure it's going to be USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:35   cables but but there might be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   pearls that we didn't notice her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   grandfather's old omega constellation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   yes that's watch incidents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   yes exactly and and then they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   use the bathroom the you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49   mean they come in they're touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:50   everything and they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   everything they want and nickel maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   and to me like that that like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:57   coup de Gras so I having somebody come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   in and just take all that stuff away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   it's like calling a hauling service but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   there's very few things like that i find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   more fulfilling and calm Holland guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   hauling guy it's real simple give him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08   hundred fifty bucks and he fills the bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:11   of a truck and he didn't care what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   and I don't know where cuz he might just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   drop it off on the next block but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:19   know what the only creepy thing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   is he does look through the bags as he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   putting them on the structure see if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   wants to make sure you're not throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   any pearls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   well obviously i see i told myself it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   because he wants to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   there's no paint and batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:32   alright is a good citizen but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   ultimately yeah just wants to use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35   touch my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   the thing is that all those guys all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   junk guys in the band the the garbageman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   you know they all have collections at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   home of other people's photo albums and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:46   like a like other people's homemade porn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:50   sure I mean that's why you get that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   why you become a junkman talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   this then we had a friend who worked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   the the drugstore and everybody who does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   any used to be back in the day back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   you know go to the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02   drugstore to get your film processed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   you do and everybody who worked there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07   had a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:08   oh yeah you know where they may double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   prints of the how you kidding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13   the terrible terrible homemade porn want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   to keep the one to trade pictures 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:18   exposures of the local news lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21   yeah haha a friend of Mines dad used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   bring a roll a week Gail Syrians from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   the local NBC station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   justjust pictures of her on TV oh you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   no uh-uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:35   yuck yeah but isn't that funny though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   because like what does that say about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   that when i call the junk guy and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:40   like I want to have still have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   attachment to my stuff and like have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   be private when you get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   look in my bag so that's what I trash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   that's one of the reasons that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   go to yard sales because over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   you know you go to yard sales and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   seems like it seems like all that's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:57   sale in those things are like supportive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   undergarments and you know what it'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   like the foundation where the recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   deceased yeah like you're poking through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   it and I feel like like she eats selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   sheet since no nose no stick is long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13   enough to get me far enough away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:14   this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15   poke it's just like Oh what is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   that an ankle brace is it cut all my can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20   add hot water bottle he sells the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:23   that's an orthopedic piggy bank who buys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   it like no thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   so I stay away from that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   people ask me all the time like to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   estate sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:33   it's so depressing do I want to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   want to line up and fight like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   brassy women with big round glasses for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:43   beanie babies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44   no I all of this is beneath my dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:48   I'm not wanted to see his children sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   around looking at their watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51   yeah I don't want to paw through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52   somebody's house like I don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   their this weird part about an estate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   sale we did that with my grandmother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   passed away in 1987 and I'm so glad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   wasn't there but we have the end and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   you've been through this process with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   people but sure you have you had lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   people in your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06   I don't know how it goes with you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   like you go through you go and pick out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   all the stuff you want and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   time you do one of these dead relative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   things eat you way over x and y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   I ended up with all this like cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   furniture from the forties that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   diagonal is for it it was in James I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   can't we can't get rid of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   oh my god that goes away pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   after about four hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   photo album blom photo blog but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:32   who's gonna hold all this stuff but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   you write to come to the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   freaks me out that is how it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   little it's like a dead person museum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:40   for a day and everybody comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   everything all the silverware is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   it's not fancy is like still in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   drawers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   I yeah I mean it's real creepy wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:50   going to like pick out which foundation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:51   where you want like right out of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52   drawers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53   yeah no no i mean the the the amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:58   ones that I've been two are like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   ones where no grandad collected swords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:04   ok I'll go look to this guy's sword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   collection but but just like this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:11   grandma and grandpa's house and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   never throw anything away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   come and we've now put price tags on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   everything like sorry i would much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:21   rather go to the goodwill where the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   ultimate drags of that sale finally got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:28   dumped off and somebody in a smock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31   sorted it and and put a colored tag on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:35   it and it sat on the shelves and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   touched by 1000 people much rather have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:42   that experience like that I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   section i'm into goodwill in years but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   used to be is to go a lot to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   you know three stores run by charities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   and they're always be one section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   very large section of wooden souvenirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:56   that people bought on vacation so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   can look a little coconut guy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1438">TS</a>]

00:23:59   something with googly eyes and hold pens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   it's strange to me that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   dedicate floor space to that stuff or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   something made out of popsicle sticks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08   yeah right where where it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:09   souvenir but and it's only value is as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:13   souvenir but experience that you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   firsthand and yet people are buying them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   secondhand like it's a garbage thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22   was garbage when they bought it but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   least they could remember that time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25   took a vacation dsm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   right well and increasingly now one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   the things that happened a few years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   and i think it was exacerbated when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   economy crashed was that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:38   started shopping a good wills a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:42   lot of normals that never would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   that would have thought it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   too low class started going and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:51   course the collect the collector side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   the equation just keeps growing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   growing and growing and so Goodwill's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   started well they all bumped up their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00   prices about six or seven years ago so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   thing that had four years have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   dollar ninety-nine all of a sudden was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   1999 right and it took a there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   period of adjustment when I was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   will never pay 1999 for this party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   started Washington and pressing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   selling the good stuff to hipsters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   New York and not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   that's the other thing they all open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19   this little store within a store where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:23   they sell the good stuff right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:27   love going into that just because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   glimpse behind the curtain into people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   minds of first of all what is good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:35   what is valuable and so much of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38   this stuff that you're talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:39   hot the slightly higher grade of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   collectible commemorative plates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:45   Bicentennial stuff you know like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:49   that wasn't much of that is rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:52   anybody who anybody who ever goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:55   Germany has to buy a Stein and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:59   bring the stein home and they realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   that a Stein is an inefficient way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:03   drinking a beverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06   you don't need a lid because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09   conquered the fly problem for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   part or whatever the fuck what we'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   whatever reason a Stein has a lid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:16   it's not it's not handy anymore so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   stein ends up at the thrift store a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   thrift store people think oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   this is a couple to live this is nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   and they put it in the special area so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:28   don't do that special area I'm not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   looking for I don't I definitely do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   expect to find granddad's omega [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   constellation we'ii certainly I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   just in the times I've gone the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   dozen years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   certainly don't find those paydays like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   you used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42   we could go like whoa this is somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45   whole like pretty cool record collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   is here is right for you knowing oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   gosh they have all these like Motown 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   or something like that you just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   see I don't think you see that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   you don't you have to have the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   Ratchet back what youth what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1616">TS</a>]

00:27:00   is a big score you know in the old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04   yeah right you go in and you'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   oh there's all these different sixties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   Levi's in here that's blue folder covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   i'm only gonna get the sixties Levi's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   that don't have any holes in the knees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   you know every one of those pairs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:17   jeans is worth 20 grand now and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20   time I was like are now these leave all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   this got an oil stain on the cuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:25   yeah now exactly it's like i found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   blue paper I this is like look at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30   stickers i used to buy vintage office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   supplies ever any time that I saw like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   bunch of something cool like it just bc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   like how the world used to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   offices and you know those things those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   are probably i'm thinking of like large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   like medical office file folders that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   way like a couple ounces apiece like big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   heavy things that were meant to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   heavy cabinets with heavy information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   about heavy cancers and like and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   just use gobble that stuff up your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   with it i used to work at a at a stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   brokerage and the the brokerage had two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:04   floors in an office building downtown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   and then there were another two floors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:11   somewhere kind of high up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:15   building that were just given over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   those cardboard boxes full of heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:21   files and i would get set up there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:26   the time like take take this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   take this palette of of files up and up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:32   to deep storage and you think about mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:36   imagining all the hoarders who have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   attic full of unwashed dishes that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:42   took up there during a party and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   got down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   but now think about all the office all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   the companies all the law firms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   stock brokerages and banks that are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   than a hundred years old over that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   those that have that space already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1736">TS</a>]

00:29:00   earmarked for that and no one has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   said why are we paying to heat this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:07   warehouse full of paper just like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:11   like copies of correspondence right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   track triplicate copies of reception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   thing that's not talking about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:17   like for financial records that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18   to keep that stuff you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   just like that you always had a copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21   everything because that's just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:22   that's what you had to do receipts right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   yeah the while you were out the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:28   pink while you were out and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31   you think about like this one this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   office building and the more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34   about it the brokerage was on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:38   tenth and eleventh floor but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:41   archives were up on the 26th 27th floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:45   and the archives had a better view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:48   well that's what I'm not that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:49   saying that is counter-intuitive right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   the higher floors the better one in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   office building isn't it i think so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   don't understand that at all but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57   go up there you know that the blinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   were always closed it was just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00   just a row after row of these shelves of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:05   hard copies and presumably most of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   most offices now have transitioned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:12   computers so these are just the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:15   stacks that that will stay there until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:19   well for all eternity probably in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   wow yeah it's it's it's amazing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:28   quickly all that has changed and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   just and you know stuff like you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   about stuff today like with like HIPAA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   laws and stuff around you know the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   theoretically around things like privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   i remember when i was in college when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:43   you get your student ID card i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   think when i started you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   mid-eighties it was the last year of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   a few things being done a certain way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   but one of the things was I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   this for you but your student ID number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   was your social security number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   hmm everybody in Florida who went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   college that was your student ID number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   and so your student ID that you used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:06   check out library books you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   have this little bar code each time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   register on the back now that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   really big deal we got barcodes but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   know we still had when I worked in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   library in 1986-87 we still had cards in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17   the books you can see everybody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   ever checked out the books if you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   to if you wanted to like check something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   out you'd leave your student ID with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   your social security number on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   sitting around i mean in every document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   you ever received from the college has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   your social security number on it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   i mean it's it's bad i mean III must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   have blocked this out but then I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   have to deal with a bunch of old stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   of mine and you know getting rid of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   and I was amazed at like how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:42   hundreds and hundreds like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43   evaluation i never gotten are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   and obviously things like financial aid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   its security number one every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   piece of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   what was it like that for you if you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   like to say i'm trying to remember you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   know I we used to put our social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   security number down as primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   identification for a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   absolutely i mean it was it was it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   may on and if it wasn't such a banana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   system where so much was riding on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   one string of digits it would make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   yeah you know if it just became like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   easy way to make you into a number in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:18   way that was public interested in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   that's not what it was I mean yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   it was well but you you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   weren't although there were all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   ways to exploit it before to buy my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   favorite thing about about that ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:32   mid mid to late eighties period in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   colleges was it was the last when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:39   first when i first got to college all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42   the seniors we're talking about the era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:46   right before they started college where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   there were where there was a bar in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52   student center right like that era that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:56   we just missed right that ended in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1976">TS</a>]

00:33:00   80 to where it was where college was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:05   really something you know where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   could wear you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   keg parties that were sponsored by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   college and stuff you know nobody no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   college has ever been sued yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   somebody drove a truck through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   dining hall and it was it was like still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:22   the Wild West End and we were the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   generation after that first wave of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:29   well wait a minute we better close down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:32   the bar is in the you know that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:36   on campus but but in retrospect it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:41   still the Wild West like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:45   couple of years that I hit checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:46   around the country i could go into any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49   college walk into walk right into any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   dorm and in most cases like walk kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2032">TS</a>]

00:34:00   right into the dining hall and help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:03   myself or in those cases where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   dining hall required that you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:07   card it was like it was eat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:12   borrow somebody's student ID flash the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   card and then hand it back to them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   know through the turnstile and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   would flash it and you know there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:22   security of any kind on campus and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   was all done in this like sign in sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:27   in and you take what you want like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:31   basically you could write whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   could write any social security number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:36   it wasn't like there's likely scan the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   card and wait to see if it was valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   valid right and so I mean at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:45   remember thinking god this sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:49   look why can't it be like it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   when you know just like just open just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:54   open country but now of course i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:59   mean you can't even you probably can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   get in the building at certain times a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   day at the University of Washington you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   can't even Park they've really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   instituted this whole thing where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:08   like oh yeah this used to be parking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   it's not very first saw this still seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   so I understand this but it still seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   so where is probably Manhattan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   it was the first time I ever saw one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   those a ATM where you have to slide your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   card to even get the door to open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   so I'll go into a little that seems so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23   strange i know i think i think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   right i think a lot of stuff happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   and you know this is probably just basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29   self-absorption on my part thinking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   was there when stuff change but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32   remember you remember that members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   during the early Reagan years they a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38   federal law was created that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   everybody needs to raise the drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   age to 21 right it was 19 and Idaho when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:46   i started at college and because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   didn't raise a 21 by something like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   think 1985 or so this becomes important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:54   in a minute you would no longer get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   federal highway funds federal highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   funds it's a big deal so everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00   change the trick me to 21 but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   were in this certain windows 19 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   florida and again if you were in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   certain window grandfather your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   grandfather i missed it by I think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   three months o.o all my friends and hung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   out with kids who just graduated and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:16   you know i was always I was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   behind until i turned twenty-one but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   think you're right i think it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   I mean can you imagine being the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   where the drinking age is 18 came around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   that ok so so when I first when i first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   went around America it was the summer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   86 and in Colorado that's the supper at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:35   the National is 18 and too young to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:38   yeah summer of 86 right i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   still 17 but but uh but you know was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   like algae sorry 19-inch and drink in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:47   Colorado you could drink 32 beer near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   that's right you could you could go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   get busy good liquor stores and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   were like separate sections for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57   half beer that you that you could get if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   you were 18 which now seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   quadruple crazy to me and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:05   there were there was another state that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   you could drink three ok but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:08   only buy filtered cigarettes haha but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:12   Idaho was still 19 and you and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   a grandfather clause but I mean yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:19   was like I was out I was out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   running of that but you know what i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   in 1986 marijuana was still legal in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27   askah remember two lies right now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:30   insane marijuana was legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:34   uh all through the seventies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:38   eighties in Alaska they legalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:41   anything you know four ounces unless at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:46   some point and they just it was it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:49   felt like a it never really got very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:53   much national publicity but it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   a kind of a typical Alaskan move like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   this isn't this is beneath our dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59   we have bigger problems and it's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:02   enforcement thing and we're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   gonna bust you for less than 4 ounces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   and even though is a federal law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   well it wasn't in the well I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:12   exactly sure how they manipulated about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   how it all works with you but all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   way through high school I mean it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   kind of like it is in Amsterdam where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   you know technically it's legal but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   Peter don't push it don't push anybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   buttons don't wave it under anybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   nose and at a certain at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:35   in the eighties well I remember exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:39   because my dad took me to the Rotary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:45   Club meeting where the Alaska State [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:49   Troopers spokesman was making the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:53   to the rotary why we should criminalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:58   marijuana and it was a case he felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:02   he needed to come to the Rotary Club and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   make this case to the people and he gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   a whole presentation and dad for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   dad used to take me to rotary club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09   meetings all the time I think largely he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   would do it just to piss off the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13   rotor rotor Arians because nobody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   ever brought their teenage son i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   sure what he there at home polishing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   bolo ties it was this was just one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   those things where he was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:24   course I bring my son he's a he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:29   wonder he's gonna run this town but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:32   I'm sitting in this in this Rotary Club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   meeting and the guy gets up and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   like listen it was it was also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:39   criminalization of three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   criminalisation of pot in Alaska was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   also tied to fight federal highway funds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   in some way although we didn't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   is the other thing we didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   federal highway because there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53   there's no interstate the last take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   Obama right so it was all state highways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59   but the but the you know the feds were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:02   and oh and the other thing of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   that the oil money in Alaska means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   we don't need federal money for stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:09   like that you know they they instituted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   will they be instituted a point one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12   percent tax on all the money that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   out of the Prudhoe Bay and by 1980 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:18   state of Alaska had a surplus of like 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   billion or something like that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   that the naked that's why they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   doing that permanent fund I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25   could hand every Alaskan a one ounce bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   of gold every time they fill up with gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31   at the service station and the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   Alaska but it's never run out of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   back but so this guy get something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   end up then the thrust of his argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   was by by having marijuana legal here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:47   the state of Alaska we are sending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   message to kids that we do not care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:53   about them and that drugs are fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:57   that marijuana is a gateway drug and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   that they are going to start using pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   because they because it's legal here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   then they're going to become heroin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   addicts and said they're going to be sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   workers and then there then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   going to end up in like a Bombay opium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   den giving blowjobs and this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:16   inevitable course of action and as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   guy is giving this speech all around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   the the the sheraton conference center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:23   where the where these Rotarian for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   setting all around i can hear our armor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   remember forever armor like the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:32   really agrees with this guy and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:36   like accenting moaning from old men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:40   yeah George that's right sounds were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   perfectly reasonable and it was the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   know the height of the Reagan years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   remember sitting there with this likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48   look on my face like no way man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   no way will never happen you never get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:54   it that's not the Alaska way man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   unicare pots legal hear me and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2516">TS</a>]

00:42:00   even know if I I'd probably smoked pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:01   like four times by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   yeah but let me just you know principal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   and then it was put up was one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   was one of those things where I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:11   think that they had enough votes to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   it on the ballot but they put it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:14   ballot anyway and I don't they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   didn't have enough votes to pass by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   past anyway and all of a sudden pot was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   a pot was illegal in Alaska and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24   remains illegal there even now that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:27   is legal in Washington which is a which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   i find is a personal affront kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:34   want to ask you about that what the pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   legal partner in Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   yeah I wonder how that's going well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:42   I mean it's going great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   I i was surprised I'm surprised when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:48   when I tweeted about it not very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   ago the number of people who really had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53   never tried pot because the because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   the fact that it was illegal inhibited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   them really it was an astonishing not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   because I i sent some tweet out saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   who in the world didn't try pot just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:07   because it was illegal that's an if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   wanted to tripod it wasn't the barrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13   to entry was not that high but I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:16   ton of replies from all over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   of people say like well no I didn't try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   because it's illegal and also it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23   sense it's illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:24   the only people that have access to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   are criminals and drug people that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   fascinating and I didn't want to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   with criminals and drug people so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   never tried it but now that it's legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   maybe i will and i was like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:38   fascinated by it because that's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:44   probably a representative sample of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45   people in the world that's just people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   that follow me on Twitter or who are who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   are I mean definitely a lot of nerds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   like not that they're not this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   squares there at least they're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58   I mean there are tons and tons and tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   of squares out there that are that who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   knows maybe the fact that pot is legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   now they're like maybe I should give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:06   this part of try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:07   I mean that whole idea that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10   legality or illegality of that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   would that that now that it's been made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:17   legal again people would say oh well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20   must be safe right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   it's just crazy to me but in any case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   there are pot stores now they're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:29   were pot stores opening all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32   place because of that medical marijuana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33   thing but they were those bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:37   dispensaries with the green cross that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   are made to look like a pharmacy haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:44   that I haha that I just I find it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:48   insulting like let's just call a spade a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   spade parties to get stoned if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   glaucoma or you know or stomach cancer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:59   by all means get pot and I don't for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   second like the Grinch but when you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   that people act like you're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   little kids that Santa Claus isn't real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   you know you something could be a karma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   stock right all the people who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:13   I have anxiety disorder and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:17   thing that helps is pot tons and tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   pot it's like first of all if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22   anxiety disorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23   the last thing you need is pot but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:28   that a lot of i would say i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   eighty-five percent of that argument is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   baloney or if you are making that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:37   like okay the case is made right like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:41   pot as a medicine is the same as cedar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:45   bark as medicine and now that it's legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:50   great like grind it up in your with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:54   hammer and pestle and then make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   tincture whatever it is you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   need to do that my seedbox husband's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01   that is not that that that was not a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:05   persuasive argument for me that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   backdoor way to ending the ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:11   probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:11   not pot yeah that's exactly yeah and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14   that it's over let's put it let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   put that baloney aside but the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:20   the state is doing what the state does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   with with all things which is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:26   regulate and tax the shit out of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   I imagine most of the people i know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:32   smoked pot are still buying pot from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33   their pot dealer and they just feel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:36   little bit more relaxed about it but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   I i can't i can't believe that very many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   people are going down to the pot store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:46   I mean that they're rolling it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   rolling it out gradually and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   most of the ones i see are still in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   dispensary category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   yeah which involves way too much signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:59   up you know like way too much Stoker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   yeah right it's like whoa whoa whoa i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   got assigned something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   oh hey man well you know how we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:09   talk to a lot in the past you know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10   how you you don't want to become too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   much of an old guy how we don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:13   be coming all goal people who just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   of write stuff off and whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   music or whatever i'm trying to keep my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   powder dry about this because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21   immediate reaction is a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   what is going on but I you know I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   to make sure that there's not new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   information I need to take in but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:28   guess it's what decriminalized in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   California or been in San Francisco it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   always been theirs as long as I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   in San Francisco it's real pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   more acceptable to smoke a joint and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   cigarette most places and that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   know how San Francisco is but mana no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:43   this is a just me noticing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   availability heuristic but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   there's a partner house that high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   students walk through you know after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   school and I mean the evidence is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54   it's just if there's something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   weird to me about walking by and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   this like tornadoes like just like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:04   funnels of swisher sweet wrappers just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   like spinning around and there's a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   of like 16 year old kids just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   there just smoking pot and and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   daughter walked by and we know how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   you and keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   they're not bad people are smoked some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   time apart but something about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   rankles me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   they should be scared i don't know why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21   think that but they should not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   allowed to roll blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   in the park is something about it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   bothers me well I I feel like even if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28   didn't have a kid even if I were merely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   an old guy i think it would bug me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   we're going where we're going to as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   nation I think go through a transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   period that maybe 15 years long-wear pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:41   is decriminalized and and we have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   have two whole generations of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:47   grew up a during this prohibition period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:51   who feel like now smoking pot in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   smoking pot and you know proudly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   front of everybody is still some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   resistance movement you know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:04   that walking around smoking pot is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   is there right now and um and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:12   going to it's going to be like this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   of proud let my freak flag fly business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   but they say you're saying though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   it's symbolic of something more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   just getting intoxicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   yeah yeah right i mean the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   they can take a civil right it's a civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   right and also one where they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   they're very conscious of the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   people are still shocked by it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   feels like very new and it feels very um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:39   you know I i said i think when it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   happened I mean I almost want to go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43   and buy an ounce of pot at the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:47   just because of all the years that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   wasn't possible and that just feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   yeah I'm just buy it and and throw it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54   the ground but like to go do it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   probably way higher quality and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:57   stuff we owe customarily risked arrest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   together it's ludicrous yeah but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:04   you see what happened in the Netherlands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:07   is that there became a real social a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:11   real social divide it within the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:15   that the Dutch people stop being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:21   impressed with with pop culture and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:27   like well I'm smoking pot outside you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:31   know like the Dutch were not impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   after a very short amount of time is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   other ones is it fair to say it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38   of a live-and-let-live kind of place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   well I in some ways yes in some ways no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:44   I mean the Dutch themselves are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   like personally reserved and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   extremely judgmental of each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:55   of themselves you know there personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   very very reticent and very put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:01   their live-and-let-live aspect of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:05   culture is is founded on a kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08   is this worth is this worth worrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:12   about is this worth directing resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   toward a more practical it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:18   it's strictly practical and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   kind of like a core libertarianism in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   them that's just like this is beneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   contempt or like what why would we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   worried about this why would we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   they're there they're not they're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   police 'i culture they're much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35   there self-police i guess and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   being self-police is that you don't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   then you don't really empower the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:42   to be an army but if you walk down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:48   street in the Netherlands smoking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49   joint you will get a lot of I mean not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:53   like weird looks but you will definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   feel unappreciated you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3116">TS</a>]

00:52:01   unwelcome basically because you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04   you're not violating the law but you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   violating the social compact and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:10   identifying yourself as a low-life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13   basically so it within the netherlands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:16   if you want to smoke pot that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   anybody that smokes pot is fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   they're they're not they're not bummed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   out about it but it's also not you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24   get a sense of like that the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   that the mentality in the country is do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   whatever you want man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   welcome to the Netherlands do whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   you want the culture is very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   welcome to the Netherlands please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   deposit your garbage in the proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   receptacle perfect can you please keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   it down after 8pm and like if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:47   you're just gonna get I mean they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   basically tisk tisk you to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52   sounds like Switzerland well except the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   Swiss are our head our way more law and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:59   order and the Dutch are much they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02   much more free and easy but it's but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:07   there's also a kind of assumption there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   are a lot of people from other places in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:11   the Netherlands and so that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   that are from their feel a cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:17   divide like if you walk through that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   lights plane there are people smoking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   pot of people drinking beer and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   rowdy rowdy place but if you step back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:27   and lean against the wall and watch how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   the Dutch behave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   they're just walking through they're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   their way to somewhere else like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   there are whole places in Amsterdam or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:39   in any Dutch city where it's just Dutch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   people going about their business and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44   does not feel like a Renaissance Fair in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:48   this place of it feels like it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   like an architect's office an open-air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:54   architects office orderly orderly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:57   people are you know people are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   well-groomed and they are very they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   on their way somewhere and they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   Bab methodology and it's not it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:08   not like just go for it bro one so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:13   feel like that's going to happen here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   too there's going to be a period where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   where people are smoking pot and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   their thing and everybody's real proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   of it but the natural at least in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23   northwest the natural social overlay is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:29   to say okay man you know why I see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:33   you're smoking pot and that's fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:34   everything but like I'm walking through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   the park with my kids and different like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   straighten up and fly right listen I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   mentioned it not just because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   embarrassing and pays me an old man but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   because it just to kind of unpacking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   little bit its there's so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   that it's not to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   first of all I don't really care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   people smoke pot I smoke pot and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   really pretty harmless i definitely my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   large x large and you know but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59   also the driver delivered smoke pot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   rub tiger balm on your temples as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   as I shouldn't that window closed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   it's also but and it's absolutely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   case that like gosh I mean I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   turn into like a system of a down record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   but like no I think that address but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:18   that the drug policy stuff is grazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   the number of people who are in jail for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   a certain amount of time because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   only drug that stupid stupid do it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   the wrong way to do it so it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   either it's not like I'm saying oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:28   doing drugs you should get in trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   I'm not even saying that it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   we're like this it's almost as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33   me that's that's the two things i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   distill it down to is first of all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   does seem weird that it's just ok for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   kids in high school to smoke pot and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   be worried about it i don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43   that bothers me but that does seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   strange and the other one is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46   it's gonna kind of become like the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:47   cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:48   I think it's going to be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   like cell phones were in like nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   ninety-six em where it's just gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   something that annoying people are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   as they can write like oh I'm on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:59   bus i'm gonna i'm gonna smoke some of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   marijuana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   yeah it's something that annoying people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   will do because they can that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   what you see ye hear me struggling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   it though because I it isn't something i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   don't want people to get in trouble for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11   it and yet there's this part of me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   thinks like it's it's and this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16   the old guy in me I think but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:17   part of me that thinks like I guess I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   in retrospect grateful probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:22   wrong word but like I wonder how I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   be today if I kept smoking as much pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   as I could smoke all the time with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:30   repercussions was picturing the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:35   well this is a and this is before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:40   like nervous and paranoid that have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   seen Merlin know nobody sees Merlin um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:47   this is what I think one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   reoccurring themes and it's bennett and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   it is a question that it's very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55   it's very easy to put this into the camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   of like we're a couple of old guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   we are making the transition now to old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   guy concern yeah like let's say we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04   the wrong side of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:05   potentially yeah but the but what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   keep coming back to what is what is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   major thread running through everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   we ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:12   about is the idea of self-governance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15   our perception of the current world as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:21   being one where self-governance is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   longer taught or prized and the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:28   that we not necessarily came from but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   the world that existed before the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   from whence you when we aspire to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:37   the and absolutely the one we aspire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   is a one is a world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   self-governance is is highly prized and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:46   and taught and practiced you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:51   what what happened in the sixties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:55   throughout the seventies and eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   and certainly now it's just been this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:00   gradual process of kara and this may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:04   true i mean i think if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   popular culture in the twenties it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   true it's always true of teenagers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   people in their early twenties to say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:15   equate self-governance with uptightness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   and unhip pneus and why can't you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:22   be free why can't you just you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   be creative and be freely a you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:27   want everybody to be tightly one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:29   right exactly and so and that is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32   like deeply unhip and one creative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   inhibiting and but what has happened is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:39   there's all this like psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   science and pseudoscience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   generations and generations of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:48   now with with quote unquote evidence to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:52   support that all you need to do is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   you know give a give a grown-up a crayon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   and and some mushrooms or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:02   and look out world because he's finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06   and he quits his job at IBM and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   becomes a he becomes a a fire dancer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:13   a and a pornographer and her and her a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   and this is the world that we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   live in this world of ultimate freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:22   where everybody is just fully alive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:26   so and the way to accomplish that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27   through art and through destroying these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   structures and structures that used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:34   bind us to one another and and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:38   what it does is it creates two separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41   classes one the class of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   keep you keep moving and get out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   way and are conscious of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   surroundings and are trying to not be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:52   burden to other people and are aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   that like society dictates that we not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   all do whatever we wanted any good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   all do whatever we wanted any good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   moment and then an entire separate class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   of people who live in the world as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:06   though anything that inhibits their the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:11   anything that inhibits the momentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   expression of their whim is some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:17   either evidence of a police state or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:21   crew who religious state or is some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:26   worse some inhibited one creative bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:31   vibe lands III feeling get the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34   that people think that it is anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   that what you're describing happens they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   want to find a way to frame it as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:39   organized attempt to attack them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   personally because of how they are right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   right oh and then precisely then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   then the you introduce the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   identity politics to it which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   not only is it a question of creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52   but a question that the UH of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   identity and how they were born and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   shaped and who they really are and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:59   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   yeah you are you're attacking their core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   like they will look you right in the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06   didn't say I cannot keep moving and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   out of the way because I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:13   because i am differently-abled than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   body shaming there whatever it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17   like well no really you still capable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:22   both moving and getting out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   because you got here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:26   you got to this you got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   supermarket somehow yeah so I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:33   know how to other than through our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:36   podcast you're in my philosophy podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39   I mean how to and and we wrestle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:43   all the time like it are we super unhip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   I'm sure there are people who listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   the podcast and rejected immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49   because they hear it as two old guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:53   no longer are free but I I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:57   believe that's that self governance is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:00   philosophy and in my case it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:04   it includes a little bit of masochism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:07   and self-abnegation but like it is a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:13   it is a valid way of constructing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   society and it and that's why I admire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19   the Dutch they are self-governing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:23   part of that is that they're at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   social contract implies a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:29   you know like if you step out you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:34   noticed and they don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   noticed in that way right but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:39   know what I don't know how Stella got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   like myself not self-esteem almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   absolutely and himself image they see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:48   themselves as being as doing the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:49   thing and I would want to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   that made you even think that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:52   doing the wrong thing because and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   just because they're afraid of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   noticed but because they think its moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   who you know I remember getting into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   argument not very long ago on twitter if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   you can imagine me getting into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   argument is you out earlier an argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:06   huh where I said somewhere I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   something to the effect of if you wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:09   shorts and flip-flops on an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:13   you are a garbage person and they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:18   put you in a shoot and send you out into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   the sky and I get some reply from a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:25   who's a college educated person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:29   works in software probably or works you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   know has a good job and he replies very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:35   heartily that why shouldn't he be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:39   comfortable on an airplane and I why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:43   should i just come to your Cuban fart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   sack wrote back and said your comfort is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48   at the expense of everyone else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   comfort and he says I fail to see how me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:53   being comfortable impacts anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   that's the problem and I said there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   likely that there's the problem you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   not aware of your flip-flops and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   like shorts intruding on other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:06   space and we went back and forth until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:10   realized it was pointless but I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   in that argument with a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:14   wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17   where the the perception of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:20   perception of the of the social contract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:23   from their end is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26   responsibility that the onus is on me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:30   not be grossed out rather than being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:35   them to behave with what we used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:39   think of as decorum like don't show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:43   don't go out in public in your pajamas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:44   don't pick your nose don't put your feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:48   up on things you know and it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   it's like we were talking about before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:52   it's not just that that Miss Manners is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:57   trying to like rob you of your comfort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   you know this is the this is this it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   it's it's social libertarianism in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   like a good way to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   yeah it is like it is then kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   the person who is not only talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:13   really really really loud into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:16   into their mobile phone but that talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   really loud in their mobile phone kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   of feels like they know exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   they did they're doing they are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   purpose trying to have a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25   that everybody will have to hear for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   whatever reason right right although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:32   got into a big fight with a guy in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:33   hotel lobby one time who was sitting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:36   was one of those one of those loveseat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   kind of hotel couches where I'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:42   with my back to a guy but he's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   there his head is right almost touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46   mind sitting on a couch on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:47   side having a very animated phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:51   conversation and I looked around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:56   lobby and everyone else in the lobby is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:59   sitting quietly reading a book or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   looking at their computer and this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   is just to NE and cities not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:07   about anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   he's just talking loud and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:12   leaned back and I said hey guy could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   take your phone conversation outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   because look around no one else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   talking it's quiet lobby who hate crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:22   and he was a young guy you know young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:26   enough in his twenties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   and he was it was like I it was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:36   said something about his family her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:42   he did get up and leave but not out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   politeness he got up and left because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:47   he felt like he was being assaulted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:51   um anyway you know he went and stood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:55   outside and like glared at me through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   the window but like kind of a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00   scared but really mostly mad because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:04   said get that free time to try haha it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:08   like it's like photosynthesis to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:12   look Claire my precious collect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:19   chlorophyll in my skills with vitamins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:22   yeah he's out there you know and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   talking to the phone i'm sure the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:25   of his phone conversation now he finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   had something to talk about he had eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   talk about this hate crime guy who told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   him that he couldn't do what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   doing and the only reason he didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:40   a stand the only reason you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   wasn't his Little Bighorn was that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   was afraid of me but you at which added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:47   to the which added to the problem you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:50   know and it's not like I didn't even he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   didn't even see me just heard my voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   so you were her allure especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   harassing him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57   absolutely yeah I was interrupting his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   personal phone call to like make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:06   comment about his behavior which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   my right to do right and at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11   thought I saw that moment as like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   right here's easy this is a kid who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   grown up in this world where he never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:18   got less than an a in school no one ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:21   told him he did anything less than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:22   great job and he has never got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:25   punch in the nests never got a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   the notes he is not accustomed to anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   ever saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   Butkus to him he does what he wants and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   he is praised for it for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   and in a lot of cases like you live that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39   way you get a good job somewhere you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   you're conscious of the stub the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   rules that matter to them now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:47   what I mean like he would never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   ever say something that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   construed as sexual harassment he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54   never ever ever say something that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   be construed as racially insensitive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:59   by his matrix he's following the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:02   he is obeying the social rules that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:05   matter and he's on he's unconscious has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:11   never even been taught these archaic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14   social rules like don't sit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   middle of a quiet lobby and yell into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18   your phone about that damage on which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:21   our rights where's our parade haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   there's nobody standing up for us up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:26   it may very well be a generational thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:28   in at and to the degree that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:33   not that long ago a time where I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:36   somebody sat on an airplane and a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   got on and she was not wearing elbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   length gloves and that person said oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44   god the world is going to hell it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:49   and it may very well be that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   standards that we feel are are somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   core and basic are just are just ancient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:59   standards now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:01   yeah and we are not we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   ill prepared to live in a future world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:06   where everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   I mean more people get on airplanes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11   g-strings and flip-flops are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14   body-shaping sex workers and I i hit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:18   absolutely take to refer to imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   can you imagine the kind of germs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:21   would get from that a g-string sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   on this plane seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   well the problem is they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:26   train they're going to very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   replace all the seats with just standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:31   up like handlebars have like an ironing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:34   board with the seatbelt on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:35   yeah and so you know so why not be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:39   g-string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:39   it's your comfort after all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   but and and I honestly don't I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:46   want to refer to the movie idiocracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:47   because it's too easy and it seems so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:50   on-the-nose except right it really is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:53   really you can see it you can't unsee it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56   and you can't unthink it and grip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4256">TS</a>]

01:11:00   last and I don't I don't I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:05   be up i don't want to be standing on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:10   some principles that don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   matter but i do feel that we are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:19   animals and that civilization and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:22   of its precepts are in place to keep us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:26   from being animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:30   yeah and totally and the more of them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33   decide are unimportant the closer with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36   you know the clay we are not it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:40   just a zero-sum game of like oh let's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42   release ourselves and become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   creative because it's like you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   doing anything original dude everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   knows that you could choose to go be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   freak that's never been out of reach to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   you it's just that everybody else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   raised that means like anything having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   to do with expertise you have to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:57   out by learning things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:58   presented to you as rigid rules that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   must be followed recipes that must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   followed down to the TSP and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   you get good enough that you can shuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:05   and jive but the thing is that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   thing about expertise is you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:08   making better food by not following the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   recipe you don't make crap your food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:11   because somebody's trying to food shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14   you you know we're getting better at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   and that's the idea of being an adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:17   and getting older and you know it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   seem like small stuff to say hey could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21   you treat this as the common space that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   it is like everybody else here everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:26   else here is getting along so but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   does that make you feel a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:29   like the crazy one though I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:30   I'm in a different movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:31   I feel like to quote the fantastic mr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   fox I feel like I'm losing my mind i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   just want to see everybody here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36   doesn't everybody see this i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:37   george costanza why is everybody not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40   just asking this guy to shut up but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:43   so disruptive to everybody especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:44   when you go to the airport lounge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   you're in the quiet room and somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   on the phone you had that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:49   no I don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:50   my god but but i do but i do very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:54   perceive i mean the the last time I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   into this was i I pulled into some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:59   airport waiting area for my flight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:02   there was a guy there doing calisthenics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04   on a seat and anna and he very clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:09   thought that what he was doing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:13   stretching out and getting ready for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:16   flight because he didn't want to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19   know he was he didn't want to be tense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   get my client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   yeah and he needed to be relaxed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   this was important and we should all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   doing that you could see it in his you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   can see it in the way he was dressed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30   the way he was acting that he thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   were the dummies that everybody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   airport wasn't taking up for seats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:38   dripping sweat on them like stretching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:41   out like like yoga kind of stretching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   yoga stretching to get ready for the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:47   know the like five hour up a punishment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:51   session he was gonna be undertaking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   the rest of us in this part 2 and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:59   you know I'm there with my little girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00   and I was just naturally like oh right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:04   this guy thinks that this is his workout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:08   room and he's violating the social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:12   contract he doesn't think he is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   thinks he's smarter than we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   I think he thinks that he's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:19   individual as an individual but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   also a role model like this is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   if we were all as in touch with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   bodies he is after all as healthy as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:28   fiddle America have a little that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:29   face that's right we are a bunch of fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   slobs he's the only one that is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   taking advantage of this opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   get stretched out and get clean and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:38   made a short little video of him and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   posted on the internet and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   here's this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   is this guy doing this and he sees me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   making the video of him and he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   ashamed and he ducks his head down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:52   hide and i got fifty 50 responses fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:57   percent of the people were like fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   that guy forever and fifty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:02   the people were like oh I can't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   that you would do that you would post a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   video of that guy without his consent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:09   and we should have a dialogue about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:14   and those people i wrote back and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:15   well I he did not have my consent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   sweat all over those chairs and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:20   like he's bite by stepping outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:24   the of what we agree are the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:28   he is making himself a spectacle he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   making himself a public person like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   not walking around putting my video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   camera in people's faces who are sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   in the airport like a person sits in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:40   yeah but if you are putting on a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:41   like you you cross the line into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:45   hey look at this guy he's putting on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   show for us and so here he goes here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:50   his moment he's going to get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:51   internet and i'm going to say fuck this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:54   guy and I went back and forth with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:57   couple of people and a couple of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59   not even people that I like and admire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:00   whose work I am familiar with who their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:04   version of the social contract is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:07   don't take up you don't shame somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   on the internet right you don't take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:12   video of somebody without their consent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:13   and shame them for their behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:16   because that is the that's the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   danger that actually not something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:19   do very often is I don't do it at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:22   don't do it unless there's somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   is behaving shamefully like like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:29   guy did not and what's amazing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   if I found out later that he and i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   i should have thought of this he was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   was this is applied to seattle he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   guy coming to seattle and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:39   people on facebook they're like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:40   that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:41   oh god that guy is like vp of somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:45   for this tech company and I got a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:49   she thought officer / yocrunch exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:52   and I got a couple of dm's that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   like that guy's the biggest fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:55   prick than ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:56   but and of course he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4616">TS</a>]

01:17:00   you know but but but that idea that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:05   and in a way this now the whole concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:08   of like the public performative aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:14   of everything we're doing now is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:19   opt-in you know what I mean if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   to stay if you want to stay anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:25   that is as easy as can be because no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:29   is walking around picking people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   random and anonymously like that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:35   and spoiling their anonymity as a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38   of blood sport because there are far far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:41   too many people dressing like dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44   and masturbating in public places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:48   because they have a prescription for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50   you know how far are we from that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:55   doctors video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   my doctor says that i need to masturbate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:02   under a blanket on a park bench for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:06   anxiety that second cuts and the dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:09   costume is part of my new identity so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:14   hey there is transitioning the two are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   connected the dragon costume is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:20   my dragon identity and the masturbating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22   I have a prescription for it and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:26   stop this is not going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:29   stop looking at me videotaping me em up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:33   up up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEP_BBEg/4713">TS</a>]