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00:00:36 ◼ ► morning things and stuff things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/36">TS</a>]
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00:00:53 ◼ ► you were watching your daughter I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► yeah i was watching her i was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/56">TS</a>]
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00:01:34 ◼ ► into the next day where are you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/94">TS</a>]
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00:01:45 ◼ ► ninety-eight percent and then the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/105">TS</a>]
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00:02:09 ◼ ► Oh make you can imagine that thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► you know you could still have your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► and I do you say reasons reduce a reeses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/134">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► reasoning for this one as a child said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/140">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► reeses yes in today s a reeses yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► think somebody I think I heard somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► say reeses enough that I was like okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► get a little-a little tune in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/148">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► that is a good tune I miss I miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/154">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► Yeah right there were so many good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/158">TS</a>]
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00:02:57 ◼ ► watched a lot of TV for my work and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/177">TS</a>]
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00:03:19 ◼ ► would have been dead three drock mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/199">TS</a>]
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00:03:47 ◼ ► 15 years of my life say sitting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► shawn wolfe on a porch somewhere going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/230">TS</a>]
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00:04:31 ◼ ► about molecules a and and and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/271">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► happens all the time right I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► I know you know 3 6 9 12 15 18 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/278">TS</a>]
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00:04:44 ◼ ► yeah and jammed in between all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/284">TS</a>]
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00:05:25 ◼ ► know that there's a bird in a tree up i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► think that I shall never see a poem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► I i miss quite a lot I've taken to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► like to source my quotes because I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► know basically everybody says Mark Twain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/337">TS</a>]
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00:05:48 ◼ ► yeah use that in a song that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/348">TS</a>]
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00:05:58 ◼ ► schoolhouse rock actually that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/358">TS</a>]
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00:06:15 ◼ ► so it in Anchorage there were there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/375">TS</a>]
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00:06:30 ◼ ► would be like to go to to go to middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/390">TS</a>]
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00:06:33 ◼ ► to derail you I think middle school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► would be much easier on a child my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► goodness that the the difference i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► my gosh what a hellhole seventh grade is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/400">TS</a>]
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00:06:54 ◼ ► move into a junior high school and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/414">TS</a>]
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00:08:13 ◼ ► course that's when you transition to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/493">TS</a>]
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00:08:28 ◼ ► and 7th 8th grade so this pact clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/508">TS</a>]
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00:17:00 ◼ ► me back in there i had gotten all f's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► all the children of immigrants with good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► that's right they are the honors class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► and then but then in the regular class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► it was clear i was just gonna throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► grenades all day and they're so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► was a way there was a the world while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► there I was just like going to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► could i would go to different class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► everyday and finally they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► then they were like okay you go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► the pack class but listen if you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► company they put you in special projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► what they should have done is take me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► hand me over to the National probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► want to rehash this but I'm gonna say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► you know every day someone is born he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► never heard about cutting trail it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► the entire house is a crucible let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► crucible crystal clear go yankees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► corrected me I think I'm crucible that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► not wrong so I know crucible ism yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► that's like a normal regular and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► anyway the it's excruciating whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► starting six you go six seven eight or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► you 7th 8th 9th whatever I was seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► eight nine and in in florida that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► entire experience is excruciating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► for everybody involved there's I is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► a good outcome for any because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► can't be because it is a priori a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► horrible existential struggle for every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► person who is that age and every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► person who has to have any interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► with that horrible little person its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► there's no wait i mean you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► tracks all day long you can make special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► projects all day long but I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► the whole thing it's amazing it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► seems like to be a junior higher middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► school especially junior high teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► you you really need your almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► prison guard but you're really just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► I just don't want to get shipped today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► like the entire experience has got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► so dispiriting with moments of joy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► like you're you know you're such a role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► such little crazy monkeys in that period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► you know just are your hormones are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► tearing you apart in ways that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► begin to understand you have to interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► with people whose hormones are tearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► it's a it's a message he'll kids aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► mm well yeah yeah I'll go with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► hi I I figured out Marlon I figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► the vehicle then i'm going to use as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► mobile junior high school that my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► daughter is it a custom white van when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► hey uncle Jack's poor junior haha i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► just going to park across the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► from the realtor i will take kids really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► want to learn something trouble reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► the plates they got some mud on know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► know might my plan to my plan 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► throughout the junior high years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► well originally was to drive a jeep to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► chair del Fuego yeah but an inexpensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► cheap that would necessarily require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► repairs along the way that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► that's right but but I i cannot i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► navigate the the Colombian gap there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► whatever the hell that thing is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► you know the you know the one I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► talking about i don't because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► um the you know right there right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► in Panama there's this there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► swamp and the suave sort of between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► border of Panama and Colombia it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► called like the it's the Darien Gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► that's right so as they say in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► you're pivoting you are you taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► essence of the of this the building's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► Ramon that you're going to go on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► your daughter you're pivoting and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► well the new direction I mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► the first my first choice would be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► spearhead a project to build a road to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► the darién gap ja right now what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► you do what would teach her a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► person more than to watch her father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► build a road through an impassable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► jungle but that seems unlikely given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► given the will of the people i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► think that i don't think there is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► will you get that you get the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► contract the people in North and South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► America need to have a need to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► will to join together and build a road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► through this impassable jungle but until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► that happens I think the new project is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► to buy a GMC a GMC RV and you got it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► got a google this because it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► because it's a fantastic that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► a period when General Motors in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► the early seventies from like 72 7800 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► yes general motors built a recreational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► vehicle where they used all of the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► all of their top technology it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► said this is going to be our flagship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► device on his hands on the second is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► google bus meet supertrain right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► like it's like it's like a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► training Superman Superman and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► inside a few of these things now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► they are extremely extremely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► comfortable kind of that the the ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► height is pretty low to the ground there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► on these pneumatic shocks the berry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► lots of light inside and they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► General Motors for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► thought like in 1972 the recreational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► vehicle is the way of the future from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► and we are gonna we are going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► the best recreational vehicle that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► ever been made and they made they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► him only for six years and they were too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► nobody could afford it's right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► middle of the gas crisis all the cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► are getting tiny exactly and so it ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► up it was it's not like these in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► 5-10 miles to the gallon maybe no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► think they're actually i think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► I think well I mean it's got a big motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► but i think they do pretty well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► considering that during the Reagan years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► we made it a national policy to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► how little of gas saving technology we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► can use in cars cable game there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► little game like hey this the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► explorer only gets 11 miles to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► gallon didn't remember when we started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► making fuel efficient vehicles again a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► few years ago and they were like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► car gets 30 miles to the gallon isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► that amazing and it was like the car's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► got 30 miles to the gallon to move 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► well they want to say for they using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► that part of it is that I mean if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► could drive around in a Pinto or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► something but you got t-boned by by up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► right i just want to get our listeners I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► I know most of you have computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► will google i really want to encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► you to look at these because when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► said GM cr-v of course my first thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► of an Airstream i'm thinking of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► Winnebago but no I mean it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► like a of a van on steroids tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► Windows that you get that interior I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► just sent you just look at this look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► that it's got wood paneling inside it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► got a sink it really is like an RV but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► it really is like a big van now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► doesn't have the the balloon feeling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► a Winnebago it really feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► something you could you get into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► parking lot maybe right and the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► it's hyper what I love about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► they're designed in this hyper efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► way so that for instance the it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► like one of those European toilets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► showers where you just go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► bathroom and whatever you do that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► want the whole bathroom is a shower and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► a one of the other things as you can so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► the via the bench there in the front who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► the back of the bench flips up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► becomes a bunk bed and then the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► little table the little diner style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► table becomes a queen-size bed better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► screen size bed in the back and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► the closet door and the bathroom door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► both open into the hall in such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► that it becomes like a jack-and-jill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► door where the the bedroom in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► can go into the bathroom and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► always a door closed between it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► front of the claret clever design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► then people in the front can go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► bathroom and somebody in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► bedroom can always have a door closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► like you know it's just very it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► nicely done so i'm going to get one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► these and this is going to be like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► is going to be a proof-of-concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► supertrain proof-of-concept who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► drive around America we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► we're going to investigate you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► maybe we'll probit the Darien Gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► although my research indicates that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► even in a Land Rover let alone in a GMC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► RV but I feel like again so you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► may recognize this because i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► that this was the this was the basis of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► the the combat vehicle and stripes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► they took over in 20 mike-mike right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► right isn't that the I yeah I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► totally see that it's the stripes RV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► I want this so much i know i know and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► but the thing is I'm looking inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► again i'm just looking at these interior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► shots it looks like you could very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► easily if you want to do some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► classic book learning you have ample [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► space you have you can have a salon type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► environment um have an open discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► this area's we could sit into your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► at a table the the driver and passenger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► seats swivel around captain seats bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► agency they become like you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► kind of lord it over the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► there in your living room and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► once you're the captain of a vehicle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► like this you know it's it becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► situation where nobody gets nobody sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► in the captain's chair but the captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► Oh what you're just going to ask your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► classroom and the teacher see I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► think so now you know so this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► culmination of a dream for you John you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► could potentially to and play music in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► this but we also get to teach while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► you're driving and being outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► system that's right i feel like i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► it's a pretty wonderful vehicle and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► opportunities were maximizing I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► totally take a bunch of guitars in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► too but it's got that it's also let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► get big air conditioners got all the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► mm it's sort of like a bill bixby as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► Hulk man but the thing I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► on the run and we can maybe a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► of of shazam right it's really appeals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► to a middle-aged man in a certain way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► yeah you just get this thing and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► self-contained em just driving around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► just stay in walmart parking lots we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► don't think about this is you could park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► it that's the thing you could Park this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► vehicle in the ins on city streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► yeah it'sit's I don't want to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► it's it is kind of the form factor of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► stretched-out van but it is kind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► definitely an RV so what I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► Walmart like what the walmart have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► whole thing where you can park in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► is that still a thing that's still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► thing yeah there's a lot of Walmart's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► John i know they figured that out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► behind the problem with that of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► is that that's not everywhere you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► to be you never want to be in a woman to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► start and I'm also thinking you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► fortify this if you get some i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► don't know if I about militarizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► vehicles but it seems to me that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► the right kind of cop shocks cop breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► cop suspension you could really make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► this thing work if you i think what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► would do is i watch stripes multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► times and figure out exactly how like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► how about how they come battle fide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► ok so maybe maybe the first trip is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► you bring along a tivo & you show your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► daughter stripes your blues brothers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► sure the short-lived a terrible NBC TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► movie supertrain you should hurt what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► can happen when you just get out on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► road maybe some of the road movies with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► my open my legs I i I'm just gonna I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► gonna give her some crayons i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► give her some popsicle sticks and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► gonna say listen let your creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► Rome em we don't have to beat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► Russians to the moon anymore but we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► have to beat unnamed Russians we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► beat we have to be a metaphorical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► Russians in our in our you know in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► quest to be like the next gen is so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► don't lose the motorhome gap it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► that's right we don't we don't we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► we don't be on the wrong side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1738">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► motorhome gap I i do I feel like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► I feel like this is it's in my future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► somewhere i talked to some guy on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► phone the other day and I was like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► know who was selling one of these and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► his actually was was like a giant gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► easter egg like this one leaves at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► but they're only 26 feet long so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► know the big Garvey's or 40 feet long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► the 26 footer is like it kind of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► it's small enough that it it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► register a lot of the media this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► of those vehicles that like you look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► the European cargo vans very kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► yeah that's bigger than it seems maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► that these are driving on the roads all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► around us and we just don't see them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► know they have that stone technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► like it's just small and weird enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► looking at you that you're I doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► yeah i'm starting to notice them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► know I think there's a community of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► people to this is no this is where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► community building kind of vehicles for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► yeah well in imagine if you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► the cutting trail road program going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► seventh graders were compelled to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► into service to cut trail imagine if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► were the director of that and I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► you got time your daughter's not a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► wouldn't it be great if you got to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► time where you could be the guy who goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► and you're the inspector for that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► if you're retired director of the trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► cutting program and you just drive your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► GMC RV with your daughter your guitars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► from place to place you know America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► just checking in checking and make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► trail is being cut and sew so put so by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► day your tyrannical enforcer of middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► school discipline and then biting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► sensitive singer-songwriter I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► and I true i'm counting the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► already imagine imagine the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► would come to the shows all of it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► the fans of the all the fans of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► the program simply an American hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► about that and you can go for parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► night were like once let's say once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► your parents come visit you briefly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► well know what you write you you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► meet you meet there in the big in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► I I feel like I feel like something has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► to happen where where we are able to can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► we are able to galvanize the will of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► people again I don't feel like we can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► right the people feel burned the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► have had their will galvanized multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► times fucked up projects over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► nobody's into a big project anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► he is also that you know this side as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► we've certainly talked about at length I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► mean everybody knows so much who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► aren't and when they're not into and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► what kind of stuff is screwed them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► also hypersensitive to all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► that haven't worked out before I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► think America needs a hero some somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► that can get out there are some you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► an organization where I mean you know go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► walk around America and notice how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► things were built as like wpa projects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► right or the freaking interstate can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► imagine can you imagine America having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► the will to build an interstate highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► system now right was like okay here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► the project we're going to do this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► thing and we're going to come into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► center of every major city and teardown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► of a six-block wide stripe right through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► the heart of town but we need to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► we need to do this because we need these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► roads so avatar hell of a story it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► incredible story that has not been told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► I was going to say that I mean like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► the stuff you know I our friend John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► circuses always talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► supposed a fantastic biography of robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► moses the-the-the gonna be like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► it's almost tore down half of New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► City it out that sounds fascinating but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► I mean that's the stuff behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► scenes that's that's so incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► think about how much eminent domain had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► to happen in order to get the highways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► built its insane it absolutely i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► when you just looking at overhead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► pictures of Seattle and listening to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► mom talked about it where they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► they picked they picked the route of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► interstate through the city where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► it would be kind of the least disruptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► like they cut it through the steepest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► so it is they didn't like have to tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► down any office buildings and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► really like it a lot of the land was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► already somewhat fallow but it also went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► through like basically the nicest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► neighborhood in the city while we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► big homes were sitting up on the bluff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► with panoramic views and they just wiped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► it out and my mom said at a at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► point in like whatever that was nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► sixty that there were barges floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► out of the city all the time with big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► Victorian homes on them where somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► had bought up victorian home for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► dollar for and put it on a truck taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► it down to the lake put it on a barge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► floated it out through the locks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► apparently I haven't been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► research this because I've been too busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► looping my guitar over and over over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► drum machine for the last seven years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► but apparently all through Puget Sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► there are maybe if you're on a boat will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► be motoring along and then back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► trees they will suddenly be this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► Victorian home on an acre of land and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► you're like how the hell did that get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► out here and it is it's one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► homes from Seattle's like Harvard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► neighborhood that was trucked away as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► they were cutting you know cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► through what would have been I guess to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► full blocks of homes across the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► of the town and that's not I mean in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► seattle was was not a town that had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► political influence nationally or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► real there wasn't any way that's Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► could even raise a fuss about and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► think everybody here was like sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► America cares about us while we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► the story we get a we get a stiletto a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► small town if I can get an interstate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► Wow course will do whatever you say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► like I mean cutting the interstates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► through the center of Detroit cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► the interstates through the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► chicago i mean these were for massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► projects and everybody just went along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► you know you don't have you never seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► photograph of like the big protests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► the big interstate highway protests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► where everybody came out in droves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► I mean you you find you get wind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► idea that there might be a crate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► barrel built in five years and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► yeah exactly i mean and think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► think about the things we protest now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► the kind of did the kind of like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► development me with the the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► Commission just got instituted a program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► here where we put up signs in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► about five or six venues where it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► musician parking and it was just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► just like a like an idea that the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► Commission had like let's just put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► musician parking signs so that musicians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► who are loading and unloading their gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► out in front of the venue don't keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► getting ticketed by the city which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► you know been a problem the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► I've been here a problem of it not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► allowed or probably the police not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► knowing that it's okay for them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► well it isn't okay that's the thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► all the all the venues have that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► there is no special parking so anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► else you tour in America or in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► you drive up to the venue and they put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► couple of cones out out in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2218">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► venue and you park your van there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► and then your van can stay there all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► night because other cities aren't crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► in florida you can live in it for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► years affect the the only cities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► you can't do that our new york where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► they're just like happiness for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► UPS trucks keep moving while giving do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► it for its and Seattle and I guess San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► Francisco also has a little bit of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► problem but anyway we put up these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► musician parking signs and there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► huge outcry just from black people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► the neighborhood who were like wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► minute what where's my friend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► wasn't I consulted yeah and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► wow it was only like 50 years ago that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► now that we that we were bulldozing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► entire neighborhoods that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► ripping up the city to build the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► interstate on no further like no further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► authority than just like Eisenhower said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► for the Germans really have a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► and then somebody connected it to the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► the idea that we we needed them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► escape in the event of a nuclear war say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► we got the internet is that right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► as i understand it the DARPA program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► that led to what we think of as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► internet today started out as a way to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► you know what I'm going to say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► it's a computer math think its a math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► that's been it started as dark as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► yeah what became the internet but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► idea that the idea that that we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► get an alert may have just enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► warning to hop into Archie c rvs and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► out of town and all those remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► remember the sirens that used to set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► yeah you know they were all our Clarkson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► yeah and then you would you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► you'd grab the kids jump into the GMC RV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► and hit these expressways and what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► going to be able to empty out the city's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► for on the on the interstate highways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► and all the people would roam out into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► the hall that you know hit it all get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► out of the blast zone and and they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► they'd like camp out somewhere they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► developed a burning man type of think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► moment like over the over the hills from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► the town we made it let's make an art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► car and said somehow that that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► that that fantasy was all it took to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► galvanize like the bulldozer people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► oh sure hey we can do that you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► sure that sounds that that's absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► that's a lot of concrete and sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► to me and we built this incredible thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► and now think think about even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► smallest national pro well think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► fucking Obamacare what a dolt what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► you know there's not even you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► to tear down a single building to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► Obamacare and it's just like it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► might as well be it might as well be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► that that Obama said I'm going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► into each home and take the oldest child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► i'll be over he hit that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► know that and and and and Democrats that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► have donated a lot of money to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► campaign get a little bit of lambs blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► on the door model tough but think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► what it would take and the thing is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► need we need it we need to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► bridge to the Darien Gap we need to we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► need to build up you know we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► build like for instance a co2 a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► sequestering system on all the coal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► plants right that's it that's a no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► brainer to write all the coal-burning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► plants they all need a CEO to sequester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► or I don't know much about that I i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► environment it's tough to get off of so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► the interim solution is to mean less and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► well yeah cool we're not gonna get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► we're not going to get off Cole and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► build a 2 and everything is like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► no such thing as clean coal it's all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► but there it but it is possible to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► like us temp scrubber system that takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► a lot of the the garbage that gets shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► up into space and like captures it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► we can compress that we can compress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► those noxious carbons and then re-inject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► them back into the earth who that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► thing we can do that sounds complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► it's pretty complicated but not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► complicated as building an interstate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► yeah but right now it's like each coal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► plant looks at looks at the balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► books and says well that's what do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► get out of that like that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► investment and it doesnt it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► really makes you want to read up on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► now because if you think about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► like you know me i guess a classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► example is to my head would be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► like the gauge of railroads or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► how like how railroad tracks relate like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► if you want the trains to be able to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► everywhere they all have to be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► same kind of track otherwise it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► to have some pretty serious problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► and I'm guessing that came about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► probably because the people who owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► the most railway you know miles were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► able to kind of push that through to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► that whatever they wanted to for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► trains that they they had botter however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► that works but it's incredible to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► like you know and this could be farcical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► this is like a sin and live sketch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► honestly to think about what it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► like today to try and convince Arkansas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► Massachusetts utah and Oregon to agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► on like what a highway should look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► well yeah I mean you saw this the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► the other day never never tried on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► highway and go I don't understand this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► highway they all work the same yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► saw the other day when I went on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► and was like why the hell you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► because I i bought a new macbook air i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► wrote a magazine article on it i saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► sure you did what basis and the cloud i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► saved it and then and then the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► mmm loud i put it in an email and I sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► it to the first is the email in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► cloud will be bracketed I can't open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► this calling your front it said when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► can open it I i bought a brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► macintosh computer and i wrote a thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► wrote a thing on it I've done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► before another Macintosh's the city done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► it and I said it to you hear anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► can open he's like it's in the notes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► a format i don't recognize and so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► to go and then I realized well as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► yeah yeah and I went and I realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► it automatically saves itself in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► format that no one else can read and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► can ask it to save it to save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► document as a word file or as a dock or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► whatever but but its native environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► is to save itself in a dot gr X Y it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► lot like a teenage boy its default mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► is to be unreadable buy anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► brand-new thing that I just bought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► is this is the direction we're headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► not the direction we are coming from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► so I go on the internet and I'm like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► anybody build a thing these days that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► does that isn't readable by everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► and I get 25 replies from people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► are like well why of the what why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► it every a gun fire the same cartridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► restoring your firm and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► all this all this kind of like huffy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► puffy back pushing from people that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► yeah whatever exactly four minutes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► the people who who have grown up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► world where 75 different railroad gauges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► is what they think is a normal normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► way of doing business and Microsoft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► Google and Apple all have a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► gauge of railroad and somebody sent me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► link to a cartoon which was like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► time somebody says let's get a standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► that everybody can use all it does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► add one more unreadable standard to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► bottom of the frame and it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► of course but that is that only seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► like the world because it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► world you know but as you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► there were 25 different railroad gauges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► in 1815 every single person had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► right term for a gauge yeah and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► until very recently like the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► I went to the first time I wanted a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► European train trip in 1986 when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► cross the border from France to Spain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► Spain was on a different gauge and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► use your they would drive the train into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► a into a little a special terminal and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► don't know if I've told you this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► then even believe me but I have one here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► they drove the train into a special sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► of facility and they lifted the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► train off of its running gear they roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► the wheels out and i but yes for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► entire train and rolled the new wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► underneath the train will never change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► yes while you're still on it oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► over the train down onto its new wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► so that so that the train could continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► on and I did not know that that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► I can't believe that's possible that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► what it used to be now it's not that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► but because and and what it required was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► that Spain undergo this incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► process of like ripping up all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► railroad tracks to conform to the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► that's for some reason for 50 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► throughout Franco's rain or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2818">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► they just had this i just decided they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► were a different gauge but I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► you're absolutely right to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► analogy there it could have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► system in which every single little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► regional rail road is operating on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► own any of course that is true of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► narrow gauge railways of like mining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► communities and so forth that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► that little train that goes from Durango [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► Colorado up to gunnison or whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► is a narrow gauge train but the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► a standard it shouldn't be that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► shouldn't be that crazy and what it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► it requires is yeah the either that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► idea that the people will it or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► somebody be enough in charge that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► can impose it but and this is why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► is why i think the people this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► this is the one thing about the rise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► China that really impresses me in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► they have a dictatorial system and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► the Chinese can impose like countrywide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► projects and reforms and I mean and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► do their priorities are are all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► map so it's really you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► sometimes they're there countrywide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► reforms are we're going to cut everyones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► nipples off and the you know that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► it's like that seems crazy and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► all like what the fuck are they doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► but for instance this co2 sequestering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► of their coal plants because China is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► making more coal pollution than anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► else in the world by by a hundred times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► but they are actually investing in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► technology and they have the they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► the nationwide will to just if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► choose to just impose it and know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► and to whatever degree effects profits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► or to whatever degree you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► they don't have to deal with a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► directors they're not having like local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► meetings at the ymca with free coffee to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► talk about what we feel about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► stoplight well and and it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► just that but they don't have to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► with with the Koch brothers or the or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► Donald Trump opining about it they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► decide like oh this is this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► the future and this is what we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► do and so boom we do it and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► pits what is so messy about a democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► but but but i can't i'm increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► finding less and less it in these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► terms less unless to love about the mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► of democracy when you're when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► about it in terms of these global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► problems like this at this I guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► the problem with with global warming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► why global warming has become a proxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► for the for the capitalists to end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► hippies to fight through is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► ultimately the capitalists have decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► that the mess of democracy works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► them in certain ways and the and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► interstate highway systems and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► not imperil democracy you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► that was something that was imposed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► on high it was a nationwide program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► people made a lot of money off of it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► didn't we didn't come out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► interstate highway building system as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► as any more of an old darky then we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► going in but but now the capitalists are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► afraid if we if we do a similar thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► with it with 22 to try and make progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► on the global warming problem right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► that what that it's inevitably trending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► toward a kind of statist like over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► because we couldn't because capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► could possibly survive one of these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► projects in so instead of thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► that kind of democracy as a way to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► our smart heads together for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► it's it's about focusing on all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► different voices right and this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► don't help him that changing the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► but it makes me think of places that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► I've worked and just teams that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► been around a nice i think especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► this comes up on places that end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► having what i would call coming maybe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► conservative you know in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► decision-making that politics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► there's this thing that happens a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► the time where it helps it happens a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► in computer mass culture where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► will be a certain kind of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► like you know regardless of the merits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► of something but let's assume that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► something that is theoretically a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► there's this thing that can happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► sometimes and I definitely felt this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► like you know in college at like town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► meetings as we used to call it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► always felt like well here's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► there's this idea and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► energy and enthusiasm be truck between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► amongst all these people into for trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► to make this good thing are causing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► could change to happen for example you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► know there's a noise ordinance and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► want to keep having parties and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► young enough to really want a loud party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► but also old enough and mature enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► understand that we have to get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► with the community and so we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► govern ourselves in order to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► keep having parties so can we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► pretty loud party less often or should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► we do we really want to get to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► somebody from the community shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► with a noise meter every Friday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► ideally we would make it so that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► we have a good relationship with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► people and and so forth but the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► it takes a certain amount of maturity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► and getting your head on your own ass in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► order to make something even like a loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► party happen a very immature for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► organizations and some groups left to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► their own devices instead it becomes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► exercise in in like listening for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► one voice who gets to kill the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► idea by Fiat because they dye bomb in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► with some kind of think of the children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► or some kind of what about my property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► values or whatever it is but it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► seems like sometimes you know especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► in this increasingly melodramatic kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► of culture we've got it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► difficult for those really loud voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► to be the ones that like start to define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► the entire debate and maybe it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► everybody's got a megaphone a cannon now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► but it seems like you know even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► really really simple things and finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► on this i guess one thing I learned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► project manager is to the to the best of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► my ability possible i would i would try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► to never ask people for permission to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► instead I would offer an implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► obviously a good idea which is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► way of saying we need to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► about working with communion this noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► ordinance I'd be happy to set up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► meeting go to and then bringing my men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► my notes when i'm done like here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► great idea and I'll do the work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► kind of thing helps a lot but instead it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► becomes kind of namby-pamby let's- try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► and put out this idea and we're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► kind of scared to even talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► big idea and then once we do we let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► conversation become completely overrun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► by some of the the wildest or loudest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► opinions and then that puts off all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► same people who would ordinarily get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► involved in that discussion which I cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► myself amongst a lot of the time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► doesn't feel like a thing I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► know obviously not everybody got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► square deal probably on the interstate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► highway system but thank god we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► how many industries today like we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► never have existed if we didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► highway system but you know if you let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► one person who is again it be the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► who decided to knock down the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► program you know with somebody do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► I think about this all the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► that obviously there were always people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► that stood up a town meetings and yelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► there were always people that had tin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► foil inside their hats there were always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► people that that felt like everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► out to get them but something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► dramatically has changed so that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3295">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► gavel those people down you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► mean like like in nineteen fifty people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► stood up at town meetings and said ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► the room com trails of fluoride in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► water right and then at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► the chairman of the committee rang his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► and they said let's you know let's take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► this to the like I I think we've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► all we need to hear and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► sometimes those guys got carried out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► the room or whatever but now every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► single person that gets up in a town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► meeting has got some has got dealy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► boppers on his hat and up left and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► and there is no there's no more you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► in the threat the threat that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► pitched at every at every elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► official is that if you if you adopt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► that kind of Imperial like we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► we're just going to go ahead and move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► boy you're going to hear about it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► going to hear that you are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3358">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► we're going to speak truth to power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► yeah that's right and and it's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► its the hole I I know you hate talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► about the Tea Party but but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► tea party that the the analog to the tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► party on the left is really the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► intellectual left is willing to has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► willing to burn down the what the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► part of the system that was working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► order to make the point about the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► of the system that wasn't work and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► you think about the idea that we had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► very long ago I mean there we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► opposed to the WTO because it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► like it was just a it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► clinton-era money-grab but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► everybody of our generation has imagined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► in one way or another a global economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► and a global system of government at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► least I mean because it was Woodrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► Wilson's idea it was the it was the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► was the marshall plan it was the UH the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► idea of the United Nations all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► were like we're moving in this direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► clearly we need an international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► tribunal that can settle these disputes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► we don't want to keep having awards we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► have to be growing out of war and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► we're going to develop these these large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► systems and they were always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► Rockefellers and the pointy hats that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► were like we're not going to turn over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► American sovereignty to some United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► full of reds and frenches but in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► like what is the alternative 200 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► from now five hundred years from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► seriously they're still going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► there still going to be 200 little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► countries all with different railroad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► gauges all bickering about who gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► kill minke whales and who gets to dump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► their transmission fluid into the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► like no it isn't it is not the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► clearly and yet and yet in America we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► can't even agree i mean-- in washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► state the the left coast of washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► and the right coast of Washington can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► even come together over what what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► know where to put our tax dollars the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► people over and over in the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► Palouse want to spend our tax money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► punishing girls who have had sex with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► their boyfriends the people on the Left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► Coast want to legalize pot and and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► granola running through the the pipes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► into our homes and so imagine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► trying to get people to agree like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► like we need to cooperate with England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► France Germany Belgium and Spain on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► like on a larger project of a of cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► co2 emissions not by ten percent but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► ninety percent like we need to cooperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► with China and you know what China wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► us to make some concessions to and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► not just a case where we are lecturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► china but they want us to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► how would you how would you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► American people to support a thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► that you know you China's done a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► bad stuff John china is bad probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► shouldn't work with them and you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► we let China dictate to us one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► then that means pretty soon we all are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► yeah and uh and they're not letting us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► have as many babies as we wanted for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► that is how it starts so I mean I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► you know for myself when I said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► while I bed and dream it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► clearly we need to work as a we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► figure out a way to work as a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► oh my god i hate myself i made myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► hurt i hate that I even said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► happens to me about twice a month and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► just want to kill myself something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► speaking in bumper stickers to you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3597">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► speaking in bumper stickers to you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► never did your visualize whirled peace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► haha i'm visualizing whirled peas right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► yeah yeah it was so I was going to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► you when you think roughly plus or minus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► like where there was weather events when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► you think this kind of change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► discourse really took place but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► I guess yeah and you think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► for a minute but I'm just like I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► just thinking this is this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► just me up in the peanut gallery looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► down but maybe it's just by virtue of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► the fact that i do see stuff like social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► media and and I just see how pervasive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► that's become as the way that we express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► everything and you know on the one end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► of the spectrum you've got this feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► amongst people it seems to be like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► don't take a photo of this and put it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► it didn't actually happen there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► that's starting to seem kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► real thing like amongst a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► and then you know at the other end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► you've got I guess what I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► get at is it I'm really it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► starting to feel like it's becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► difficult for people to this is awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► but it it really honestly old guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► talking here it really starting to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► like it's becoming least difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► me to see an important difference and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► guess I'll just go on a limb and say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► think its tip is getting difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► people to separate their idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► themselves from their opinions from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► body politic from america's next top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► model or whatever it is it really seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► like everybody is supposed to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► extremely strong and deeply held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► conviction about big issues as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► things that just happened and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► have no opinion or if you have a light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► opinion or if you're open to getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► you're kind of not a fully branded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► character yet and in order to in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► to fulfill your personal brand online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► and therefore consequently in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► you have to come down super hard on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► side and then stick to it and maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► always been that way it's just that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► there's so much on the wine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► when you're when you're sitting there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► was wanting to sit there and yell at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► TV what President Nixon was talking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► it's another thing now to be to be part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► of these these coalition's of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► the flash / lynch mobs of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► constantly looking for what what latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► indignity or-or-or problem they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► decide to rally around and just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► there's not that much incentive anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► for somebody to just be kind of a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► person who shows up and listens and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► things sometimes but it just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► that's making it harder i know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► obvious but i really i think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► bigger problem than most of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► willing to admit because then each side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► benefits from stoking those people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► from getting more and more and more dug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► in on that one side and it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► doesn't filters that much incentive out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► there to go out and try and become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► reason person who can figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► you're willing to give away in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► make something good happen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► Roderick on the line about it but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► is on the camp but well no I and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► this will at this will sort of i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► ignite you in a different way but for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► there was this there's this splintering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► that started with Hagel and at nita [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► splintering of what of what we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► of what we understood to be the Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► tradition and at the at Foucault the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► idea that we were the the idea that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► relationship between the that knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► and power were these things that that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► could get outside of and look down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► and see the relationships between and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► could decode and we could we could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► apprehend the systems of control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► in a way that we could intervene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► intellectually and-and-and up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► introduced into the into the into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► story into the story of human progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► controlled by these these larger systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► literary systems language systems you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► know and that those systems were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► tinkering ball and we could get in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► every every group could recognize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► point at which the actual language the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► actual English language was built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► such a way that it disempowered them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► the actual way that we thought that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► systems that the act that systems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► we had always considered benign or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► neutral that those systems were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► built as control apparatus and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► needed to we need to disassemble these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► systems in order to achieve equality it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► wasn't just a question any more of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► had always been the American project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► which was equality under the law write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► it as long as everyone is equal under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► the law that's as good as government can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► do and then we have to we have to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► out everything else but but but at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► no that wasn't true anymore because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► law was intrinsically unequal because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► the language it was written it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► colonial language and with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► introduction of those ideas there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► this splintering of what we understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► to be the like what will that that any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► of us could agree on a common truth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► with that if everybody has their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► truth what was unforeseen was the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► practically you cannot live in a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► where everybody has their own truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► or or rather you can but it's what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► all against all it is a war of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► against all if every single person has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► the option of saying I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► word you used because the word is in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► language that is that that that puts me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► at a disadvantage and so I'm choosing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► own word to describe the thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► ultimately that's where we are now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► are in no way we're living in a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► where every single group is the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► are bickering over the word to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► the thing that they are talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► they can't even agree that they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► far from being able to agree on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► principle because they're arguing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► whether it you know what to name what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► something is a fantastic idea we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► not do it because we can agree on why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► well and that so then that follows from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► subsequent problem follows from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► this shattering of of like what we held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► in common a common understanding and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► and it isn't to say that foucault and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► Jared on all those critiques weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► interesting you know and and Chomsky I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► mean those are fascinating critiques and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► and you know I spent many years and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► know you did to reading them and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► like repeatedly kind of blown away by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4075">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► holy cow yeah I never thought of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► way like well everybody everybody should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► be lucky enough at some point in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► twenties to be brutally destroyed in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► argument by somebody who's a a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► good dara dot deconstructionist yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► you end the end the conversation almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► sobbing because you're still confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► about what you don't even know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► confused about it you know yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► experience that you understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► important languages to how we think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► had those experiences multiple times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► I can know and I limped out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► visible light weight but what about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► do with it yeah right i mean but i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► that same exact experience arguing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► up with a really informed Catholic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► uh about abortion i had this the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► experience in my early twenties a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► intelligent informed Catholic person had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► his had the logic of his position so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► well understood and I was approaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► the argument from like well I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► clear that blah blah it's clear that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► woman has a right to her body but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► and he was coming at it from this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► I mean his life a sacred or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► garbage you know a very Socratic kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► like well i mean i guess if those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► the choices sacred right well so if life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► you know any followed from there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► there was there was a moment where those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► critiques stopped being just interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► thought-provoking exercises in in how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► see and think right it is but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► became sometime in the eighties within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► the university's they became the be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► the blueprint for us for a system for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► four-day weekend at least started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► writing on the rule books and crayons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► because anything else would be dishonest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► exactly and we started saying like bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► like our project from the left is to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► know we were always terrified that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► right is like is like infiltrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► school boards and they're infiltrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► zoning commissions and they're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► all their people in there who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► believe in evolution and all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► we don't realize it until all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► sudden we can't get any textbooks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► austin texas public schools because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► these school boards are like have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► the the right figured out that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► going to colonize those areas but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► years and years before and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► academic institutions and then social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► service institutions all the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► institutions were were being infiltrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► by people who had read these critiques [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► and saw them as a framework for making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► public policy and so we now like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► every sign that was going to be posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► on the wall had to be in 15 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► languages and at and that was just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► was just seems like a no-brainer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► everybody here spoke these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► languages but of course the but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► underlying idea was that you could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► you could not effectively translate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► please do not finish off this bridge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► couldn't really translate that it needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► to be in all those different languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► because translating it was an act of was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► an act of oppression almost you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► was a complete it's a comparative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► literature project of governance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► Department you want running the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4315">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► so they introduced that they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► started introducing that into like into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4324">TS</a>]
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01:12:58 ◼ ► talking about our rights all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO28nDU/4378">TS</a>]
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