Roderick on the Line

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00:00:23 ◼   ► hello I job hi Merlin has gone pretty [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► good good morning for pretty good yeah [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► it's pretty early it's a yeah I was up [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► in the I was up in the high desert for a [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► few days and I came back down here to [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► the low swamps for coastal swamps and [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► last night I woke up and I woke myself [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► up sneezing and melon I sneeze so hard I [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► pulled a muscle in my chest that I [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► welcome to the 40 [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► haha i was but you know for the past [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► week my nose has been as dry as the [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► Sonora Desert and now the reason we [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► don't work on crab boats so how about [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► other than that I feel amazing [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► yeah I i think i got more allergies as [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► I've gotten older I got more sensitivity [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► to those kinds of things and like I used [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► to have a friend who had really bad [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► allergies and should always be moved the [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► moan when it was that like a nice day [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► because of the high pressure and wreak [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► havoc and i would think that's insane [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► you're obviously a crazy person is that [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► such things being allergic to grass and [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► high pressure system what's wrong with [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► you and now is the weather gets nice and [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► wake up in the morning and i pulled [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► muscles [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► yeah yeah now pull the muscles in my [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► chest and bustle i'm not even sure I [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► remembered I had kind of rapture house [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► amazing could have pulled it but you [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► know I think there are many small [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► muscles in the body that we don't think [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► about i think i first learned about this [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► roller skating you know in like I was a [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► kid and in your roller skate when you [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► don't normally rollerskate and you [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► discover that there are so many tiny [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► muscles the little muscles in the area [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► near your ball area you know what I mean [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► even your groin muscles you're right [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► that's right that's right that's the [TS]

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00:02:15 ◼   ► Yeah Yeah right well you you learn that [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► right by trying to trying to shoot the [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► moon or or walk the dog or whatever it [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► is that you do on a roller skate [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► I think this might be yoyo tricks [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► that's what you want the sleeper drinks [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► can hurt you in the groin alaria to I i [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► have not been rollerskating I [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► rollerskating just came up in [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► conversation I got a lot of trouble [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► seeing you rollerskating well you know [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► of course in our era when I was in sixth [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► grade I don't think there was a cool [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► thing to go do than go to the roller [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► rink now in doubt that was the first I [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► guess you know what it was that was the [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► first my first experience with clubbing [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► write that for a sixth grader that is [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► going to the club and all the cool kids [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► are there and some of the kids are there [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► like unchaperoned kids skating around [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► they know how to do the skating things [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► and the girls are there it was Congress [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► that the Congress skating rink on [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► Congress Street was absolutely the the [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► center of it was it was like going to [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► the disco in Saturday Night Fever it was [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► the thing everybody talked about all [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► week and then I like I i went there like [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► twice and I felt completely out of my [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► depth [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► I just play quick the whole time well [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► well and quick look listen no slight [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► against quite a hell of a cake but you [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► know i think i think i had an advantage [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► this is one of the weird things about [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► being both younger than your your [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► extensible peers and also less mature [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► than them at that age where girls were [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► starting to you know really be [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► interested in boys [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► I remember girls getting interested in [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► boys a long time before boys seem to [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► reciprocate that interest but again that [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► might have been my maturity but you know [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► there were definitely kids there that [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► were making out and engaging in boy-girl [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► activities but i was so immature that my [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► response to it was just to like skate [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► right up to two kids who are clearly [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► like about to neck you know stay right [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► up to him ago you know like I was it was [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► such a door you're on the skating rink [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► spectrum [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► well I'm not yet travel like [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► understanding the emotions of those [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► other people i did not understand and I [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► and I didn't I also did not understand [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► like that there was a new kind of hate [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► that someone could feel for [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► person which was the I was just about to [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► kiss that person and you skated up to me [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► and said this army [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► wow you know like i was i was so I was [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► such an anything with these were these [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► were my peers and friends in school we [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► were the same class and same grade but I [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► was fully two years late maturity wise [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► and so just I was oblivious i was still [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► a little kid and we're listening to [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► blondie and things were happening people [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► were feeling feelings and I was not I [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► was not feeling feelings i was feeling [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► only the thrill of the speed of the wind [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► in my hair and that's it and the pure [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► adrenaline panic of not understanding [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► what was going on with my friends I [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► totally agree [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► I've said this a hundred times i keep [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► saying it I I feel a little less like [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► this now but pretty much for all of my [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► life I felt like there was a manual that [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► I didn't receive and particularly that [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► there was some kind of honor on some [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► kind of after school class that [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► everybody was getting on how to be a [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► person is it every step of the way I [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► felt like wow what how do you guys [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► understand what this system is how do [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► you understand how to navigate in the [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► system and I think you know it's fucked [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► up system but I think girls did [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► understand that there was a system and [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► and what they're placing it could be [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► better than a lot of guys and earlier [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► but back then it was completely [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► inscrutable to me it was it was a very [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► lonely experience a feeling I don't even [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► know there's no library book that i [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► could get that would help me explain how [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► to not just even like finally want to [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► kiss me like to even like fit in at the [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► most basic I was invisible I felt [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► invisible to place like that [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► yeah I I think about this a lot because [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► that that missing manual i mean in one [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► way I remember hearing stories about [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► there's a girl in my class who was super [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► bright super funny in a way like I felt [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► I now i'm talking about seventh grade [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► but I felt a kinship with their [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► and then the story went around that she [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► not only was drinking alcohol but like [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► drinking it before school and later on I [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► I knew her well when we got to be adults [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► and understood that she had a terrible [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► family life and was was drinking before [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► 7th grade she actually was doing it [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► yeah oh my god but i can't imagine that [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► well and they're the only other thing is [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► like this is Allah Alaska and a lot of [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► kids were you know a lot of otherwise [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► normal kids were huffing paint and [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► drinking before school and you know [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► going out to their car to do like with [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► its just to let you know in between [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► class that fits that shop lifted just to [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► like blackout the you know the that [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► there's a colors of there's a base level [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► of trauma happening in Alaska to among [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► Alaska youth in the seventies that that [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► I I can't imagine is true anywhere [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► outside of like West Virginia but but i [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► remember hearing very stressful [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► well yeah because the adults up there [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► were not we're not running the show the [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► way that you would you know it was a it [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► was a it was a frontier mentality a lot [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► of people were up there making a ton of [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► money during the oil boom and they were [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► irresponsible people to begin with you [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► know they were like oil workers so not [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► not what you're gonna you know not [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► people that have a lot of impulse [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► control they're gonna talk about your [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► friend who had gone through this is kind [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► of a case of [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► there's a lock like lightning striking [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► and you just suddenly go from being a [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► schlub being somebody who has ten times [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► more money than you've ever had before [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► oh yeah and-and-and the and I think [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► you're seeing this happen in edmonton [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► canada now yeah and kind of around the [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► world what happens in in these in these [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► frontier situations is that guy's of [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► people who are like very very [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► working-class like wrench Turner's and [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► you know like Derek workers are suddenly [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► elevated just threw cash alone into like [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► the cliq firmly upper-middle-class [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► resources right like so people are [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► coming from Oklahoma they're coming from [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► Arkansas they're coming from Louisiana [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► and they've been working on the oil [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► derricks down there and they come to [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► Alaska and their pay is quadrupled and [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► they know it's a really mixed blessing [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► in the long run [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► yeah and they don't have any roots up [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► there either and and the nature of the [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► country is anything goes right so so you [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► get I mean you know a massive influx of [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► sex workers a massive influx of drug [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► everybody's up there and there's just [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► money everywhere and then it that this [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► happened over and over and over again in [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► Alaska because the the fishing went [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► crazy the notes of gold rush mentality [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► so a lot of these people had kids and [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► they weren't looking out for the kids [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► and the the drugs and the sex and the [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► violence was all happening all around [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► this kind of generation of kids and that [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► talk about kids that came of age [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► starting in start between 1970 in 1985 [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► or something you know it was just a it [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► there was so much intensity and the [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► adults were so checked out there [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► probably working a lot to write well and [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► that's the only thing like like two [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► weeks on two weeks off [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► yeah so so dad is just fully gone and [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► then when he comes back he's movies his [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► pockets full of cash he's raging [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► um and very very nutty life right and I [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► didn't want my family was was relatively [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► stable by comparison but you know I hear [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► this story but oh yeah you know what's [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► your what's your buddy's is like coming [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► to class drunk and the story goes around [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► and it's not there's people are telling [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► it like that that's a bit that's reason [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► for concern there telling that story [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► because that makes her incredibly cool [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► like did you know that you know that a [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► is like gets drunk before school [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► what whoa yeah I know cool right [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► and so that kind of information and and [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► this happening kind of among my among [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► people i know my friends put it in put [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► the put the manual so much further out [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► of my reach like I've never i don't have [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► never had a beer or I mean I guess I had [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► but i have never I wasn't intentionally [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► getting drunk yet and that's a real [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► that's a real line across when you're [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► when you're in high school or younger is [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► when you consciously go [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► I think maybe I'm just puritanical or [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► silly or something but it seems like [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► there was a real difference between [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► people who are like teehee i'm going to [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► have a beer and a half and while we [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► drive around a car versus people who [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► would like plan ahead to have alcohol [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► and get drunk on more than like a [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► quarterly basis it really felt like a [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► big divide i think it was adding two [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► huge to find and and the and the only [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► reason I think you would be doing that [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► is that you are trying to you know [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► you're trying to put X's where your eyes [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► are ya [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► because what whatever else is happening [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► is like way worse and so there's a lot [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► of that going on and then the the sex [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► that that attended that and I i was a [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► you know honestly still still worried [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► about whether the agents of cobra we're [TS]

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00:14:17 ◼   ► rod on the line we could not do it [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► without them I i am feeling the [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► beginning the very very very beginning [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► of something I know it's gonna get a [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► hundred times more complex but you know [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► even even in kindergarten for my kid [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► like there were there were there are [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► certain kids that I mean there are [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► certain kids that are aggressive [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► certainly the little boys her age are [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► very are very aggressive there are some [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► kids who are you have some stuff going [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► on and then there are some kids who are [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► dicks and it's when you're around so [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► many like I have to honestly say and you [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► have met you had this to its kind of [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► amazing how many of the kids in my [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► daughter's kindergarten class we're [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► actually really like nice cool kids with [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► parents and another pain in the ass or [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► whatever but they were like pretty [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► normal kids so it really does stick out [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► it's a pretty diverse it's a pretty [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► diverse class but you know you know in [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► most ways but it really does stick out [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► when there's somebody who's like always [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► getting in trouble [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► because of a combination of not just [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► impulse control but also lashing out [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► where you see a kid it's it's still [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► feels weird to see a five or even back [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► on her preschools and countersunk these [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► three or four year old boys there's one [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► little boy that she was friends with it [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► was a really sweet kid but like [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► everything will be going fine he would [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► suddenly become pretty aggressive then [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► become violent and then burst into tears [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► like one day he hit it with a shovel OH [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► and they're really good friends and and [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► then he just burst into tears and the [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► kids three or four and so I gotta read [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► on that personally woman with the end [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► and I don't know how to translate but i [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► want to say to her well you know that [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► kids got some stuff going on probably in [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► in and what I want to say to her though [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► it's like when you meet people who do [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► stuff that seems outrageous or are [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► allowed to do stuff where this seems [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► outrageous you see the behaving in a way [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► that's very outrageous like that may not [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► be just because they have cool parents [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► that let them do what they want Lana I [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► mean what I'm trying to say to her is [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► like when you meet a bully almost every [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► bully you meet got that way for a reason [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► is because somebody bullied them and [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► maybe i might be their dad might be [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► their brother or their mom but that [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► could probably make name I don't want to [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► say but that kid may not have the [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► happiest home life and school ends up [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► being the place i'm not trying to excuse [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► this but school maybe the place where [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► they're trying to figure out how to [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► explain it to a five-year-old though [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► like your friend hit you with a shovel [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► well I I know his dad's a little hard to [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► talk to sometimes uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► uh-huh [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► does that resonate though while watching [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► the little kids interact with each other [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► at school and then you know [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► extrapolating that to watching the [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► adults that I know and then just trying [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► to live in the world like it's hard to [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► keep those two thoughts in mind which is [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► that that everyone in the world is [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► simultaneously like less monstrous then [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► you want them to be or less monstrous [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► than you think like everybody's doing [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► the best job they can and everybody has [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► a fairly similar tool box and people are [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► generally good you know this is the [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► something probably more or probably more [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► alike or more almost [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► like then we would imagine a lot of time [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► exactly and it's the it's the it's the [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► insight that you get when you're like oh [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► I you know I like we've talked about a [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► million times like people in the South [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► are amazing and we spend a lot of time [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► in the North demonizing them and then [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► you go down there near like these are [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► the most amazing people in the world was [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► i talking about and it's true around the [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► world everybody is generally great and [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► everybody is is like smarter than you [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► think and and better at what they're [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► doing than you think and then on the [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► flip side like how are we how do we [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► manage even to have one day of peace in [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► the world how do we manage to even it's [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► absolutely perplexing he said this a few [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► shows ago why it how is it and i really [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► am going to this today because don't get [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► me started about local public transit [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► oh my god but you were saying something [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► about like I don't know how people drive [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► to a job downtown and don't get a fist [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► fight every day [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► yeah and I know that's an exaggeration [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► but i have to say i'm kind of surprised [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► it doesn't happen more often [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► I mean the kind of friction that you [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► have with other people every day and [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► just knowing how many people are really [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► on a limb every day and barely keeping [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► it together on how many of these kids [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► like I you know our our our little [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► preschool draws from a fairly affluent [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► subset of the sort Capitol Hill [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► population and there are a couple of [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► kids who have beautiful homes and [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► obviously like educated caring parents [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► but the but those kids are out of [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► control because the parenting choices [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► it seems like they're being made are [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► mostly like boy I don't know what to do [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► I don't know what to do about it so I'm [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► just gonna I'm just gonna give him a [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► candy bar and set up in front of the [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► television and and then after hour from [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► now he'll calm down and I guess that's [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► what parenting is you know like there's [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► a lot of that going on that that it [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► feels like yeah overtime that kid will [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► become socialized by his peers and by [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► the world and by school so that she can [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► be [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► he can go out into the world and get a [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► jobby go to college like all these [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► things will happen but at the center [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► at the core of this person there is [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► there is no relationship to other people [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► you know the the core relationship which [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► is like my mom and dad didn't let me be [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► an animal sort of never happened and and [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► and the kid is insulated because that [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► they have well and so that he he isn't [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► an animal because he's you know because [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► he's in this big house and nobody can [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► hear him you know he's not bothering [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► people and also want to put too fine a [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► point on it but also because they may [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► have the resources to help back and I'm [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► not trying to judge something that I [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► struggle with and I'm aware of this is [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► that if you have the resources and the [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► time and time really means resources [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► resources really means money [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► it means you you've got a place where [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► you can be all the time when you got [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► home [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► maybe you've got childcare all the time [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► and you have a way to perpetually help [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► your kid take the edge off and you're [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► always there to give them maybe not [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► exactly the next drink but you know what [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► i mean you're almost there to get [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► something I've talked about this a [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► couple of places lately because it's [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► really been on my mind is and really [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► inspired by you in some ways is how to [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► help a kid get to where they figure out [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► that the it's not a good idea to expect [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► other people to assume that other people [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► made you feel bad or to expect that [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► other people are going to be there to [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► make you feel good whether that's [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► through TV or whatever not I just cause [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► I do struggle with that but but you're [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► right and the thing is as long as those [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► resources are there and there's a TV [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► there and there's another bag of [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► Eminem's there everything will be fine [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► right and and and so this kid grows you [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► know I see I'm seeing it more and more [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► and this is kind of what we when we see [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► these terrible videos or when people [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► reveal themselves on the internet to be [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► you know gross kind of frat boys like [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► that that expose that just went around [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► about all the all the CEOs of those [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► startups in their twenties who it turns [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► out alright racist frat boys or whatever [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► it's like yeah that that's that's [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► happening that's happening a lot of [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► places you know and and the resources [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► allow the person to grow up with a good [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► vocabulary of a good education [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► a good you know they had a they have a [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► lot of friends and they have a they have [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► the ability to have a cool car and you [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► know they're popular and successful they [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► succeed but like at that at the heart of [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► their of their experience there's [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► something crucial mission they were [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► never they weren't domesticated they [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► were just like when you get tired when [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► you get tired in this giant room full of [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► toys [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► why don't you go into your other giant [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► room full of toys or why don't you [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► scroll through a thousand videos you [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► could watch or why don't you you know [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► you know and it's just like you're [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► saying take another hit off of the crack [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► pipe and then literally something's [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► wrong with you let's go to the doctor [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► and get some medicine that's gonna you [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► know that's gonna like what why do you [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► have trouble sitting still [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► we're expected to not do the thing you [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► immediately want to do 45 minutes yeah [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► right we got you must have a you must [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► have a disorder let's put ability right [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► and and you and then you see other kids [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► at the school whose parents are you know [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► what you would call I guess I mean that [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► they don't seem they don't seem strict [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► to me maybe when I was a kid I watched [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► other people's parents and was like wow [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► that's a strict parent but there are [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► parents at at that go to the coop [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► preschool that I'm that my daughter goes [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► to who are just like watching their kid [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► and when the kid gets another kid with [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► the shovel the parent is on them like a [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► you know like instantly and not angry [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► but like the parent is there a parent is [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► saying I see you this is not good you [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► are done or whatever you know and that [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► kid is at the center of their existence [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► is something right there is some feeling [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► like that like somebody that loves them [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► is watching them i guess for for better [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► for worse so anyway yeah while I look [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► around I mean I just I just did a bunch [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► of traveling last week and everywhere [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► you go like there are there are people [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► everywhere and they're all making it [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► their all making it work somehow [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► and in the in this fitness fractal way [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► of like every single person is paying [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► their water bill this month every single [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► person is [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► you know manages to like put gas in [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► their car but yesterday i was on an [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► airplane and I kept hearing this [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► so this clacking sound and I looked [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► across the island there was a woman [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► cutting her fingernails God on an [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► airplane at fans toenails and central [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► heating is a popular event on the s3 car [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► out here [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► sure I'm sure thanks click click and I'm [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► sure she would have been clipping her [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► toenails if if she didn't feel like [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► there was some line you know he's not [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► much stick not a monitor but she is she [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► does have some part of something missing [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► in her and it isn't just I don't think [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► that no one ever told her you know she's [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► a she's a woman in her forties or [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► fifties and it's just it's just it's [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► it's all those people that reply to me [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► when I say don't wear sweatpants on an [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► airplane or whatever they're like [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► they're comfortable right yeah it's [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► comfortable for her to cover the she [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► needs to get this done it's comfortable [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► for her but but somehow like all all of [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► the as we as we loosen certain [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► restrictions in order to have new [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► exciting freedoms um we we we draw the [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► curtain back on a lot of on a lot of [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► people who who were only being held in [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► the in the pack by by the rules you know [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► so I i don't know i'm i'm continually [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► astonished that we manage as people and [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► I feel like that alone is I feel like [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► that alone is that is all the proof I [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► need or whatever you know like all the [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► faith that I need in my life is that it [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► continues to happen it's a I guess it's [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► a I guess it's realpolitik a feeling [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► yeah it will we're managing and if use [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► if you zoom in or zoom out too far [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► it all looks insane so the solution is [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► don't do that [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► dr. it hurts when I do this well don't [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► do that man and that's a weird that's a [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► weird place for somebody like me to to [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► arrive like because i want to zoom in i [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► want to zoom out i want to know I want [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► to find the place where hurts and poke [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► it poke it poke it but but like big big [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► identity way big identity land [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► yeah I just feel like we're doing it [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► quit making it and then since it's [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► really an improbable it you know the [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► other thing is it like I'm not to make [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► this all about the kids stuff but you [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► know it's there there's so much stuff [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► that is pretty boring i guess but like [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► you know that every kid has it an innate [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► is slightly flawed sense of justice [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► about and in the middle sure the most [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► basically i think the one kind of [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► straight up way that comes out is if if [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► there are five kids at a party and only [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► for those kids got a slice of cake [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► well I would have to agree unless [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► there's some circumstances I understand [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► somebody screwed up and that actually is [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► kind of not fair right if it's a party [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► where everybody gets cake that would be [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► a nice thing but you know even stuff [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► like it becomes really difficult to try [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► and say only for example our kids school [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► there's real super mixed signals about [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► stuff like whether it's okay to have [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► sugar they're like we got all these [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► lectures about how you can never have [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► sugar school nothing with sugar in it [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► but even the even the teachers bring [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► cookies sometimes I think it's fine [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► personally but you know but the thing is [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► that's that's what the problem becomes [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► in that becomes a mixed message that is [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► much more it's much more is about a lot [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► more than sugar and because of little [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► kid consistently see something that's at [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► odds with what we said it would be [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► that's the original confusion is is if [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► it doesn't square in that way and to me [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► that's good to go straight back to [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► Congress skating rink where man I my mom [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► worked so hard and tried so hard to give [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► me what she could to keep me from not [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► becoming a reprobate but of course I [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► envied the boys whose parents didn't [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► like the Nelson months kids you know [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► what I mean whose parents didn't care [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► where they were i envied them so much I [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► thought they were so cool and and the [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► girls who in some cases had some pretty [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► clouded judgment about how to be [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► spending their time [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► huh the I just I I that world [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► I mean it just it seemed magical to me [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► like that I how do you get into that [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► group and now i'm just i'm so glad that [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► i was well you have that be the one when [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► feathered hair was introduced to the [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► world I could not make my hair feather [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► right now [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► one word there seems to be this line [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► where there were these people with [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► effortlessly feathered hair yes and they [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► and effortlessly feathering hair and [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► like cool getting drunk before school [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► seemed to be like those Venn diagrams [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► overlapped a lot and right up until [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► feathering hair became became like [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► universal and everyone had a giant comb [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► sticking out of your back pocket another [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► white pants either way gene it's uh huh [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► i was my mom was still cutting my hair [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► with a ruler and I just like a straight [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► edge ruler and pretty much anything you [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► put your head is slightly red not really [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► and cutting my hair with a little [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► carpenter that blames his tools for [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► measuring tape or whatever and and then [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► you know what she would go to sears and [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► she would buy me outfits that matched [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► rightly off-brand garanimals yeah like a [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► like a like a like well this is a blue [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► and orange lure v neck sweatshirt top [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► and so we should have some blue and [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► orange striped pants this is how this is [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► an orange and yellow striped baseball [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► shirt [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► we should have some orange jeans you [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► know like i was i I looked like it [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► looked like an ice-cream cone whenever I [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► look at an ice cream cone make sure that [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► experiment yeah and-and-and I was [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► perfectly comfortable in those outfits [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► because you know first my mom had picked [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► and so how they make it they could be [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► wrong but also like my favorite color is [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► orange and I had orange jeans on what [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► other criteria would a person have if [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► you could if your favorite color was [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► orange and you could have orange jeans [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► why would you not and then I I sort of [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► walked through these giant doors into [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► teenager dumb and like leaving aside the [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► orange James for a second just the fact [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► that that my that my hair looks like a [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► motorcycle helmet and all these kids [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► with this hair that's just like that [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► just it really looked like feathers this [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► you kind of have the haircut [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► you've got the car cross between like [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► the ruler haircut in like a little bit [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► of charlie bucket on the cover of your [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► first record you can get that rocking a [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► little bit [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► well that's the thing like I if I could [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► it's it's basically the haircut that [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► every member of Creedence Clearwater [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► Revival and hannah i'ma go get my hair [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► cut it the best illustrated it's you [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► know it's it's like I mean my mom didn't [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► not know how to cut hair she she cut it [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► as as well as needed to be cut because [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► it sentences my attitude about the child [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► to it's like it's a child but your order [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► to grow back [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► yeah evidence and also like you're [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► giving it a cool haircut [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► why the hell would you give a good child [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► cool haircut like oh I see why you would [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► give the child cool haircut because the [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► child is a toy to you but but [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► practically what what a kid needs is [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► like no no cool haircut [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► I mean honestly but yeah the be given a [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► beater car a cheap cheap guitar same [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► idea a little bit over the the Giro love [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► sushi model of like your child should [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► work in your sushi restaurant their [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► entire life until they're old enough to [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► cut trail until I die and then you will [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► take over the sushi restaurant that is [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► the you know that that's the premise but [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► don't worry about it gets cut it in my [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► in my in my experience like like that [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► the consistency is the consistency of [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► like the adult world [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► I don't have I'm not worried about [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► explaining that to my kid because [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► because i feel like in general we've [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► established with her that like there are [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► restaurant rules and there are library [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► rules and there are home rules and those [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► rules are different and that doesn't [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► need to be explained to you you know [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► that we're in a restaurant restaurant [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► rules apply those are different than [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► house rules and so just follow the [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► restaurant rules these are that this is [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► that sort of uncomplicated way that we [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► traverse the world and if we're in a [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► restaurant and and someone up some kid [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► across the restaurant isn't obeying [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► restaurant rules [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► that's not our problem you don't use the [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► D that's still difficult i mean even if [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► she's very she's very curious about like [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► what is that little boy doing why is he [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► doing that it's like well then that's [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► also when you get into the when you go [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► on that further concentric circle out [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► from like cake at the party is an [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► awkward thing where like if we just [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► decided something at the last minute [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► after school like hey can we go to this [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► place everybody else going to sure and [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► that could be the comic book store it's [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► the park or something like that [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► well and the thing is sometimes one [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► parent sometimes that one parent is me [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► is like oh sure you can have an ice [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► cream cone or short you can have atomic [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► and then the other kids are like oh my [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► god what they give it that I should get [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► that right and that is like as much as [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► he that is clear in your mind or my mind [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► is very difficult to explain and and I [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► get that [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► yeah it's not extremely arbitrary and [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► basically unfair but that is that is a [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► kind of unfairness that I'm very [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► comfortable communicating to her is just [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► a part of existence like her to her [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► childhood justice which is such a super [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► which is super heightened and understood [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► you know it it's like yeah sometimes the [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► teat gets knocked out of your mouth kid [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► but you know like we got back up we we [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► all would be just on sucking on the [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► teeth all the time but we're not and so [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► sometimes the other kids get ice cream [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► cones some times blankety-blank [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► and-and-and definitely within within her [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► parenting structure like her mother is [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► it's not it's not that I don't think [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► that she doesn't care but like she uh [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► her mother is oblivious to [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► her playing with ice in her cup at a [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► restaurant by which I mean the way to [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► reach a filthy hand in and grab ice [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► later comes over puts a pint glass of [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► iced down in front of the kid and [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► immediately I am looking at the glass [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► and I'm looking at her and her mother is [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► not her mother is studying the menu [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► her mother is you're looking around and [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► the first thing that she does is she [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► reaches her filthy little hand into her [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► ice into what she sees as a fantastic [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► ice water bucket that is that somebody [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► put down here you know all she's new so [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► she needs a shovel to begin having fun [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► and look there's a giant spoon she does [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► have a shovel and so a way she goes and [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► if you're not sitting there saying like [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► hey hey hey guess what we don't do we [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► don't pull the ice out of our class [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► because you're a dumb little baby first [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► one you pulled a class over on you and [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► then you're gonna be soaking wet and [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► we're all gonna you know how how many [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► times does it have to happen before we [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► just don't do it anymore but in her [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► world there is the fundamental [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► inconsistency of when she's out to [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► dinner with her mother she by themselves [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► she might be playing in her water glass [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► the whole time but why we're the worst [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► at that but when her father died at that [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► you know like no you're not it that's [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► and all the sudden that seems arbitrary [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► well then she's staring at me with her [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► like her dark eyes she's giving me the [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► glare across the table like why are you [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► prohibiting me from doing what I want [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► and then we're then we have a new [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► problem which is your glaring at daddy [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► which is also not a thing that we do and [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► you know friend but she understands that [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► rules the rules are different with Daddy [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► and they're not radically different it's [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► not like daddy comes in and says before [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► we eat we all take off our clothes and [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► sing Kumbaya and everyone in the [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► restaurant staring at us but that's just [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► what what we do with Daddy [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► I mean it's just no it's it's a level of [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► it's within the realm of normal but the [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► rules are different and every person [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► should understand that because otherwise [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► you get situations where you are [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► clipping your fucking nails on an [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► airplane [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► yeah you know like that as the rules are [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► different but there are restaurant rules [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► their airplane rules and you know within [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► within within a realm of variation but [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► for me the idea that you would take your [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► shoes and socks off on an airplane and [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► put your feet up on the bulkhead is out [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► that's off the reservation it's outside [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► of what anyone would call reasonable [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► airplane rules over but I have a picture [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► of myself sitting in first class next to [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► a guy who took his shoes and socks off [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► and put his feet up on the bulkhead [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► where we were in row a and his feet are [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► bare feet on the bulkhead and you know [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► the flight attendants aren't going to [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► say anything [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► and here's this guy who's obviously like [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► he he has enough privilege that he is [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► sitting here and he's just taking it [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► taking it all the way like his comfort [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► above all else [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► so what we're watching other kids and [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► watching the way that they're at their [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► parents are there and loving and caring [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► and have the resources and ability but [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► there's just that she little piece of [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► attentiveness or attention or or like or [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► personal authority or just understanding [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► what the job is your job is not to give [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► your kid a cool haircut and make sure [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► that your kids are cool because then [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► your kid is going to be getting drunk [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► before school because that's that's the [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► only way they're going to fill that hole [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► you know your job is to say what the [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► rules are and to make the kids feel [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► loved as you take the glass of water [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► away from them and say we don't play [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► with water and our table [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► it's also kinda like you're really [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► reductive about it it turns on how you [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► look at your job or how you look at your [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► kid as a thing and I've had to become [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► more aware of something that it's like [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► do you look at this person as a retired [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► baby [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► we're at the future as a future fucked [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► up human rights adult right i mean [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► they're both human but like so is a [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► retired baby or a a you know future [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► fucked up person because everybody's [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► going to be a fucked up person [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► yeah and if you look at that that's I [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► think there's ways that you can try and [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► take those to faders and adjust them in [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► a way that becomes a little bit more [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► sensible because on the one hand you go [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► I understand why you're impatient i hate [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► being here to this really does suck and [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► and so maybe I can do something to try [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► and now you can play the iphone or maybe [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► you could do this game or when we're [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► done here we'll take a walk in [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► mysterious ways you can try to relieve [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► yeah but then the other part of it is [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► yeah but you also do sometimes you know [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► have to go wait in these lines because [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► that's the thing we have to do I don't [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► make it unbearable for you because i do [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► have boring wants to be kid was really [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► boring a lot of the time but you don't [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► need to think about I don't know i'm a [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► 30 bone here it makes me think a little [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► bit i know you enjoy talking about [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► things like entrepreneurs and and the [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► super-wealthy I feel like I'm an [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► entrepreneur expert [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► yes yes I understand tired entrepreneur [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► I understand what their what their [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► culture ends and I i really want to get [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► really want to dig down i would want to [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► open the kimono gershon deep-dive I look [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► at you know then again this comes from [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► being and coming from a modest [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► background [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► the only thing that I find more [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► flummoxing then I found cute girls in [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► tight pants when I was 13 is to look at [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► people who really do like they make [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► millions millions or like a billion [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► dollars and then they move on to the [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► next thing is even bigger and they work [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► even harder and even somebody something [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► like but you know Donald Trump I mean [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► how many times it seemed made and lost [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► and remade a fortune and I find those [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► kinds of people they might as well be [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► from another planet because because I'm [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► that kind of person that would did that [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► like I'm down like maybe a just a half [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► turn away from a lottery ticket person [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► Ron like a you know if I had a company [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► that made that kind of money I would you [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► know trying to things like to take care [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► of college and you know settle my things [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► and and be but mostly I would try to [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► like have more time to do stuff and [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► that's the last thing on some of these [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► guys minds [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► yeah so what do you think is there any [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► connection at all to the kinds of things [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► we're talking about here like that you [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► like analyze what they were as kids but [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► you think that comes from a slight [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► super abundance of independence as a kid [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► that made them want to try stuff does it [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► potentially come from [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► I you know an unquenchable feeling of [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► self that needs to constantly be read [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► refilled or something else like where [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► did it come from [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► what makes people what makes the biggest [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► pile is not a great example but what is [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► it that makes people want to go and just [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► keep making these bigger and bigger [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► companies and bigger your products and [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► be involved in bigger and bigger things [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► to any sense of that [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► well I I I think about this a lot and [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► and and especially because some of that [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► desire to do to do bigger and bigger [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► things and more and more things is like [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► at the heart of my own my own problems [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► I i went into a coffee shop the other [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► day and the guy behind the counter was a [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► guy i knew i was like a man how's it [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► going he's like great man you know how [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► are you and we talked and he's got a [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► couple of kids and he made me like the [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► most delicious espresso that I've had in [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► weeks and I say that as a guy sitting [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► here drinking week old coffee that he [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► kept in the fridge while he was gone but [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► like this beautiful espresso and I was [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► standing out front of the coffee shop [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► talking to another friend of mine and I [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► was like I didn't know that this guy's [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► you know like like I guess I didn't know [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► that he worked here at this cafe I you [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► know I know him from around town life my [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► other friends like yeah he's worked at [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► this cafe since like 96 and I was kind [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► of taken aback by it [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► he's my age she's got two kids he's at [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► in some crucial way like he is [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► practicing the art of espresso and this [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► is a thing that happens here in Seattle [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► that's that predates the artisanal [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► mustache world who where we were we [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► recognized espresso making as a craft [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► and it was I guess it was always sort of [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► hipster world but that that thing alone [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► was a was a world that you could go into [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► with kind of pride and the guy who [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► who started stumptown coffee came out of [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► this this particular cafe and and and [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► this place never had it the guy that [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► owned it never had an interest in [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► expanding and becoming a 20 chain thing [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► they were just into their place and they [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► just make perfect coffee there and the [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► end so this cafe has a whole culture of [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► people who go there and it's like it's [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► it's kind of like a like a blast from [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► the past like it used to be before [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► before everything needed to become a [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► thing you know what it's getting what I [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► could just sit and be a little thing [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► yeah anyway and I was reflecting on the [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► fact that i like this guy he did just [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► make me a fantastic cup of coffee but [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► the idea of deciding at age 24 that [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► you're going to be a you're going to be [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► the world's greatest barista or not even [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► that you're just going to try and be a [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► better barrese to every day and that [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► that that would be that kind of [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► contentment could come into your life [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► through that practice and that you would [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► not every day I wake up and go why don't [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► I own this cafe [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► why don't I own why don't I own the [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► house across the street from this cafe [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► so I can sit in that house and look out [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► the window at my cafe you know why don't [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► I why haven't I written a book about how [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► to be a priest that is a that is the [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► biggest book ever about it you know that [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► constant drive 22 like a on the surface [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► of it and the weather way that in the [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► past like my ex-girlfriends of all [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► criticized me for us like the outward [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► expression of it it always seems like oh [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► you just want to be a big wheel like [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► you're not content to just sit and pull [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► coffee you want to be a big shot you [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► want to be the big the big wheel and [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► that is that's an impure motivation and [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► you should you should find contentment [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► in just living a good life and and all [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► the all these all these things that [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► people say like if you have a couple of [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► good friends and and you know and a [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► couple low and browse boy our children [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► but but I think at the core at least for [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► me is this desire to this desire to like [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► well what are we doing here [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► like if we're not moving the ball [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► forward on what it means to be human if [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► we're not helping each other if we're [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► not making it easier for the next [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► generation if we're not if we're not [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► trying to solve the problems that our [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► fathers and mothers created if we're not [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► like engaged in this life in pursuit of [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► something something that maybe we'll [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► never know you know something that [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► ultimately is just that we one day send [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► out a probe and it connects to another [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► it connects to extraterrestrial [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► intelligence or you know who knows what [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► the freaking purpose is but if you're [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► not if you're not pursuing it like there [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► is a purpose and and within that like at [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► least I feel like I should be part of [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► the advance guard of that night and I [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► feel like maybe the guy who's making [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► espresso everyday is fulfilling that [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► purpose also but but I perceive my job [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► to be as an explorer and as somebody who [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► is trying to like trying to advance that [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► ball but it comes up against this thing [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► that actually came up [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► um in the course of a Rodricks [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► rendezvous the other day where as I was [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► kind of free talking which is what I do [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► out that show basically like I roll my [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► eyes back in my head until you can see [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► the whites and then I've been a free [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► talk for half an hour and and then I the [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► secular version of speaking in tongues [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► yeah yeah well I just like here's what I [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► was thinking about today I thought about [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► some thoughts would you like to hear a [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► bad it's there I go here I go here go no [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► um but but I i was sort of reflecting on [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► the fact that that there are limits to [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► human pain and also limits to human joy [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► and the the way we can tell that there [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► are limits to human pain is that if [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► there were not [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► there are some people who have [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► experienced so much pain in their life [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► that it would make life impossible right [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► how could you survive the Holocaust and [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► then go on and live the rest of your [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► life and and live to be 90 how could you [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► do it how could there there are people [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► who have experienced such incredible [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► trauma that if there wasn't a floor to [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► the amount of pain we could we could [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► experience that people would drop all [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► the way through and then attend the [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► thing is there are people who do drop [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► all the way through their suicides and [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► there are all kinds of you know there [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► are all kinds of people who fall and [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► keep falling but for the most of us know [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► this is why when when you talk about [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► drug addicts or anything else we need to [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► talk about that they hit their bottom [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► and there's another way of looking at [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► that bottom which is that it is this [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► Blessid limit [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► there's a there's a floor to the amount [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► of suffering that you can experience and [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► at that at once you hit that floor you [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► know imagine losing your child I imagine [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► imagine losing your child where you are [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► responsible somehow like maybe you [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► couldn't survive if there were a floor [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► to the amount of suffering we can [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► actually experience and once you hit [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► that bottom then as they say there's [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► nowhere to go but up and we can survive [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► these terrible things and we can [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► continue on but the flip side of that is [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► that there is a ceiling to the amount of [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► joy that we can experience and a lot of [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► these people who are our what [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► characterizes multi millionaires and [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► billionaires is this constant trying to [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► trying to achieve a an enjoyment of [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► luxury or enjoyment of success that they [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► just can't they they hit they put their [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► ceiling and no and so they keep buying [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► luxury watches are there like I want all [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► the furniture in my house to be made out [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► of ocelot fur and if the if I get you [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► know if I get that then that is going to [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► then I'm really going to sign [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► whatever you get reach that you've got [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► no more opulence there's no there's [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► nothing that's not helping at that point [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► yeah i mean but they are thinking like [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► that's what I deserve that's what's [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► going to make me feel like better or [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► whatever and and like the fact is like I [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► have the good fortune periodically to [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► stay at the Chateau Marmont in LA which [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► is a kind of shabby chic you know that [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► people take care of you the food is [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► fairly good the rooms are comfortable [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► and realizing a long time ago I was [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► sitting in that hotel and I was like if [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► you had more money if you had so much [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► money that well first of all there's [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► there's the amount of money you could [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► have where you could stay at the Chateau [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► Marmont any time you wanted and not not [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► think about it and that seems like a [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► nice amount of money right if you have [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► that much money where you come to LA and [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► just be like oh I'm staying at the [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► Chateau minister for two weeks who cares [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► that seems like that seems like a great [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► resource and and yet there are people [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► who for whom the the idea of staying in [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► such a crappy place you know is like [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► would be an insult to them and and and I [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► see this in airports all the time I'm [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► walking around I'm like the airport is a [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► kind of place now where if you are even [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► in an airport [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► you're not in the top class of people [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► anymore and so that's been a shift that [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► you getting your in jan or something [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► beyond your own gender you'd be in a [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► charter jet you'd be in you you would be [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► in a different terminal and so everybody [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► in this airport is basically we are all [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► compressed into the same cattle chute [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► and the people who are people who are in [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► double first class and who who poured [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► earlier platinum rewards double french [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► class platinum rewards double first [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► class are just fooling themselves [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► because they're gonna have to go through [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► that same TSA line and they're gonna and [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► even you know and they might have [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► pre-check but there's a woman in pre [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► check in on a rascal scooter whether [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► whether pants full of beanie babies [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► Nevel like there's no there is no [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► there's no route to the airport that [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► doesn't at some point or another end up [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► with you standing there with your Louis [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► Vuitton luggage standing in line behind [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► a guy who's got his toenail clippers out [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► and is ready right guy who drinks a [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► little too much and almost finished an [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► associate's degree touching your balls [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► up so but the idea that there's a [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► ceiling on pleasure and this is and this [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► is what this is kind of the pic the [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► crazy thing about the about my [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► relationship to capitalism which is that [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► like unlimited wealth unlimited [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► opportunity unlimited success is not [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► unlimited [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► it is it is absolutely limited by the [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► compression that's on our own experience [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► the similarity that we all have to one [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► another and the fact that past a certain [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► amount of luxury freedom enjoyment you [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► know pleasure like there is no more [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► you cannot you cannot chase that dragon [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► any further [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► you cannot have any better sex that [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► you've already had and you cannot have [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► any better sleep than you've already had [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► and so all of the rest of it is wasted [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► effort you know like misdirected [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► resources and wasted a pursuit of [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► something that is just like here we go [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► with what you know we're all sitting and [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► watching these rich people like arc [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► across the sky and thinking wow there [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► that you know they must be having such [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► an amazing white-hot experience but [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► they're sitting on the in a bit of a [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► very comfortable chair and they have a [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► hangnail just like I have a hangnail you [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► know and they're paying somebody [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► eighteen hundred dollars a month to take [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► your eighteen hundred dollars a week to [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► take care of their nails but like the [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► but ultimately that that that ceiling in [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► that floor compresses what we can feel [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► and if we could just acknowledge that [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► somehow and feel like all right you know [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► you you cross the finish line you are in [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► pleasure time now this is as good as it [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► gets [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► so like don't spend any more like wait [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► so we're not going to devote billions of [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► dollars of our collective wealth to [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► support your your pursuit of more more [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► MORE [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► we're going to we're gonna go to channel [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► that in a different direction trying to [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► raise the boat for some other people to [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► get out of the swamps I guess that's the [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► logic of like a socialist mentality [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► right that's the that's the logic of [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► socialism is just that once you know [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► once a certain percentage of people are [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► up above up above the ceiling then what [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► we should really do is turn our [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► attention to all the people who are [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► below the floor i think it I think it's [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► it i think that's borne out in every [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► single individual persons like you look [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► at those pictures of Richard Branson who [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► has his own Island and he's and he's out [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► there with Mick Jagger and a bunch of 24 [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► year old virgin airline stewardesses and [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► they are having jet ski races and the [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► only reason i know that this is [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► happening is that there are photographs [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► of it and the only reason there are [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► photographs of it is that Richard [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► Branson have hired somebody to stand [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► waist-deep in the in the luke warm ocean [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► water and make sure that they documented [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► this experience because Richard Branson [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► doesn't believe that it exists unless [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► it's photographed and publicized and you [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► see the look on his face and he's a [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► handsome guy who has got a lot of money [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► and he's having what we all think of as [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► a you know peak experience like he's [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► naked jets game with Mick Jagger but the [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► look of rigor mortis on their faces is [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► the look of somebody who isn't who does [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► who does not know how to enjoy things [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► and he can only you know he's so it is [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► so you have to photograph it [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► the only enjoyment he's really getting [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► is making sure that other people saw [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► this and making sure that you know he is [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► Anna and he doesn't seem coming he seems [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► like a monster but not the worst kind [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► right at least he is you know at least [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► he's not using his wealth to like make [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► sure that people don't get I'm kind of [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► surprised that doesn't happen more often [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► because it seems like there's a fork in [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► the road where you get I'm great at the [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► kind of interesting you get to a certain [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► point and you've got everything anybody [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► could ever want you been on the cover of [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► magazines and you start to get that [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► maybe they would never say this but if [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► you are a multi-millionaire and you [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► start to get that fit of pique that [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► feeling of kind of emptiness we going to [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► charity stuff when you start a [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► foundation and this is a nice thing to [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► do it's very nice they did that I'm sure [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► there are some financial reasons to do [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► that as well but anyway you go and you [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► started the foundation and you start [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► hanging out with boutros boutros-ghali [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► or whatever i'm kind of surprised there [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► aren't more people who just decided to [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► become super villains like secret super [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► villains where they're likely still show [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► up for meetings [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► yeah yeah this isn't charity work but [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► basically man if I could afford to buy [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► an island i would be that would be doing [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► some crazy shit that nobody could trace [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► to me because I had a Ford you could [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► afford to do stuff we could never be [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► traced back to you and part of the fun [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► would be your like anonymous now or [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► you're like you know some 4chan kid like [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► you're getting away with incredible shit [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► and nobody can figure out as you because [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► you know you're hanging out with [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► pictures pictures cali yeah right you [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► the first thing i did you get a little [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► bit appealing first thing you do is buy [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► a submarine well and and honestly the [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► reason i think that that doesn't happen [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► more and then that and I think that is [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► the underlying logic of all conspiracy [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► theorists is that all the rich people [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► have in fact done that and then maybe [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► maybe on the it here maybe that's [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► happening and I just don't know it yet [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► they are running they are running secret [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► kids what separates from there from [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► their private something but i think i [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► think what you come up against is the [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► threshold of people's imagination [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► suggesting any of the public submarine [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► Nick so can I mean it's not slept with [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► so submarine line-up I could see that I [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► could see that it's like anything would [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► be better than what's happening right [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► now my brain I'm picturing Seattle with [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► all that with the zip lines and the [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► gondolas installed and then some [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► submarine-based public trans you know me [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► you know I believe there's power to [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► union oh my god they are the the local [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► community even on the cars I've seen you [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► dive out at the last minute I have been [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► on immunity for sure you know my high [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► school girlfriend that the way break [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► your heart [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► yeah met and married her husband the [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► doctor but well he's a PhD and she's a [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► doctor she's a doctor she he's a PhD [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► depending on whether you call them a [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► doctor not i I'll leave that to you but [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► the stood there there meet-cute story is [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► that she was on the muni and was getting [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► off at the stop that he was getting on [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► and he got on the subway and either she [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► turned around and got back on the subway [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► got back on the muni that she had just [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► got off or it was the other way around [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► and she got off and he was about to get [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► on and then he got all that's a really [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► creepy me cute but there is they're [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► married and they have two beautiful life [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► goes on for them [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► yeah good for them yeah muni frankly [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► because matata so they got a union [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► because matata so they got a union [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► and yeah you know me John I believe [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► there's power in the union i know you're [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► not a union-busting I think Buster no no [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► scab / I don't scamper on this Gabbar [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► that there are 600 vehicles that are [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► operating every given day in san [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► francisco and let's just say it's [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► already it's a shitstorm to begin with [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► just just the fact is that if everything [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► is running perfectly [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► it's still so not running perfectly and [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► these guys are a little a little unhappy [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► about their current negotiations for the [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► $32 and 50 cent in our opening up a job [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► so they're going to start paying for [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► some of the attention [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► mhm okay these guys these guys who make [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► a hundred thousand dollars here and live [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► on golf courses and God bless them [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► they're doing they're doing great work [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► and two-thirds of them did not show up [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► on Monday and Tuesday [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► oh shut the city down huh it's called [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► sick out because their contract [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► contractually obligated to not do that [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► that is out of range for something not [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► all the strike and and they didn't like [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► the way negotiations are going and so [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► basically the city's been completely [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► gutted the cable car lines are down if [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► they brought your kid to San Francisco [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► around the cable car come back another [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► time when he's working [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► Oh yep yep yep you got to my [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► neighborhood like you know just about [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► where i am at my longitude or whatever [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► you come out here the train stops and [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► turns around and goes back because they [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► need for other places there's a bus that [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► will show up that will then take every [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► single person that was on that train [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► shove them into one bus and then maybe [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► that'll get all the way out to the zoo [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► that that's our that's our last three [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► days here and you like and you know this [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► really makes me like a John Roderick [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► character because it's ready to put up [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► with with a lot a lot of poop on the [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► streets you know but like it's so that's [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► we really need that system to work you [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► know because there are a lot of people [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► who like you know if I had my druthers [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► we would not have a car at all you have [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► a car because my wife works on the other [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► side of town so we ended up getting [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► another car but you know I I don't want [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► to have a car I don't want to need a car [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► I don't want to fucking Park are I part [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► of what makes my neighborhood cool i'm [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► lucky to be on one of the five [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► why am I telling you this who cares [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► except i think there's a john robert [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► point to this somewhere [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► yeah and likes today we got on exam take [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► my kids to the zoo for camp we got 55 [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► stops from our house had to get out [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► because the Train needed to go back and [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► then we stand there and we wait and it's [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► just like you really I start to feel [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► like george costanza character that was [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► my private island women are you saying [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► that the John Rother character in the [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► george costanza character share any [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► common LOL absolutely not [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► oh my gosh I can't believe you would [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► even in that from what I was saying [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► thank you but we all believe it is [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► already here [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► I think you know I think what one of the [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► one of the problems is that that you [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► should not let the Liberals run things [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► in a kinky way you know like there is a [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► reason that there are two I mean America [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► could have 15 party's political parties [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► America has to and within those two [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► political parties we try and put the [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► whole constellation of of feelings but [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► if you let one little is so vastly [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► different approach and philosophy and [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► practical realpolitik as you see luckily [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► they're so different that they really [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► are two extremely structure it's smooth [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► and the reason that they aren't is that [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► yeah but the vast mass of people are [TS]

01:03:29 ◼   ► right in that center and they pick left [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► or right just based on like who their [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► parents were and just based on the kind [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► of music they like what you know like if [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► there was a centre party it would be the [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► biggest party in the country by far but [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► the centre party idea that [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► yeah the centre party let the left [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► people already the c++ RT see that yeah [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► that's right yeah but gentleman's be the [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► gentleman's be party but but you need [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► people who are you need people who are [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► sticklers to run of a public transit [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► system you know you need a suspiciously [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► to bring some Swiss a political people [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► that's routes neutral right right [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► a political who are who are an [TS]

01:04:16 ◼   ► unemotional but who have who have [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► resources right you [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► cannot you cannot run a public transit [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► system where the where the people who [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► are responsible for peak keeping it [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► running don't have the resources to do [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► it you know and ultimately you're seeing [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► this in the new york public library's [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► right now [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► it knew that new york public library is [TS]

01:04:42 ◼   ► trying to support itself because unlike [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► a unlike sort of its competitive [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► competition it big pop big big like [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► private institutions and Library of [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► Congress whatever the new york public [TS]