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00:00:24 ◼ ► hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► oh it's going really well it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/28">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► it's pretty early i slept a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► very long time last night and i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► like i could sleep another very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/36">TS</a>]
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00:00:40 ◼ ► used to sleep a long time was an earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/40">TS</a>]
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00:00:50 ◼ ► Merlin just never getting enough sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/50">TS</a>]
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00:07:29 ◼ ► to squarespace for all the great support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► with Roderick online we could not do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► without i have sometimes I think back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► that the experiences I had a young man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► and marvel at them and pay what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/459">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► was what the hell was happening and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► how how do i remember i mean there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► people around me who can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► like what somebody said to them on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► phone you're so good that is you're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/474">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► good at that i do not know why these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► things sticking my head but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► every one of them is like a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► component of the DNA of my of my mantra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► when I wake up in the morning it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► three beams today something every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► you're already in the whole everyday 3pm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► today who and you know remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► Battle of Midway and also that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► stroll that-that-that-that time that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/500">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► use that word wrong in 1981 that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► with the tattoos on his hands that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► insulted when i was working at steves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/509">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► Broadway is still mad at me i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► you're there like you are like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► like a mythical greek beast you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► Cassandra thing you know you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/519">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► condemned to never be able to forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/523">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► that's right this is what scares me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/528">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► about my stupid kid is like I've got now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► so into the thing of going like my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► is just I don't know if she's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► information is being poorly encoded on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► her hard drive but we have a big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► and understanding the role of socks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► being able to leave the house this get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► ready for this kit is the role of socks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/546">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► yeah because then you gotta put shoes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► before you leave that's 25 minutes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► terrible habit of thinking that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/555">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► daughter doesn't hear anything and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► remembering something deeply deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/560">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► specific from when she was two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/563">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► so you know okay so here's one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► about memory that I think is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/568">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► interesting like I I know if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► most people what their earliest memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► are well first of all there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► stuff that they know because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► family told them that over and over but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► most people's memories I think start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► their memories as adults start around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► age 5 so I just assume that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/583">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► happens and they just hit reset but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► stuff i've read recently indicates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► it actually it just starts a racing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► little bit around five or six x 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► you're really you know you're getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► lot of stuff that scares me i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► what kind of bullshit i said one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► that she's going to use to guide her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► life regarding rpms every morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► it's some offhanded thing I said I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► I I still I remember like such specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► things like you're saying like talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► to the priest over the tomato beer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/611">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► have such specific recollection of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► things i can't imagine how that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/614">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► well I i have to have to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► that i think quite a bit because I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/620">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► governed by these constant little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► addenda to the constitution that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/627">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► always adding and a lot of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► ancient and i have no idea whether three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► beams a days is some kind of standard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► whether this priest was crazy or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► this was some kind of like come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► or or whether it was like an invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► to join the Society of Jesus that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► wasn't like oh I was misinterpreting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► blue what he was saying maybe bm's were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► like this mouse right like a Sacramento [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/655">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► something like how many beasts me laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► do you say add a piecemeal ah oh IC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► right i don't know what the fuck was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/666">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► who knows but yeah but I talk to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► like that i have a couple of close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/669">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► kind of casually shrug off the the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► that they have a really bad memory oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► have a really bad memory shrug and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/681">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► normally I feel like that is a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► either a self-fulfilling prophecy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► it's a or it's a cop-out you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► oh you have a bad memory so let's get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/694">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► distance but at but you know it within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► this within the the spectrum of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► it's obvious right about having a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► memory is something that absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► could be an could be an affliction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► you wouldn't know you wouldn't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► you had it on unless you were I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► only way you would know is by comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► and contrasting your experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/720">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► blankety-blank and you're like Jesus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/724">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► don't um so I guess I must have a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/725">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► memory and but that that could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► descriptor for a whole lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► that we're going on you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/733">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► old like is is the orange that I see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/734">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► same orange that you see we both called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► orange right but like how do you how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► you gauge you know how do you gauge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► perception except by by this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/746">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► ungainly process of trying to describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► your experience and see if it's if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► squares with other people right so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► these friends that are like yeah I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► a really bad memory and and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► I go way of a bad memory for like stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► that's happened recently you also have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/765">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► bad memory for stuff that happened to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► long time ago or is it just that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► not turning experiences into metaphors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► you know is it is it memory or is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/775">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► remembering things like like changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/780">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► metaphors or stories or or changing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/788">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► into other forms that are easier to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► hold onto and process and not kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► kind of like unintentional heuristic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► where it sits your brains equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► like writing it down in the big book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► yeah right like like 25 other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► has happened that night in the fish bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► in sandpoint idaho and honestly I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/812">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► not tell you I could not tell you who i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► was there with or why I was there or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/819">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► of the other sort of lead up to why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► was at the fish bar in sandpoint idaho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/828">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► and and where I was headed afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► like so so this priest said this to me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/832">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► remarkable conversation at the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► I mean it's not like when you it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► like when he brought this up by I real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/843">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► remember this right but you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► engaged in the conversation was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► tell me more about how many poops I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► should be having like this I'm up I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► definitely grown up this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► conversation I've had before with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► with a fellow grown-up and so now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/860">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► really engaged but then I took away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/864">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► you know i was also drunk but I took but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► I took it away from there and put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► the big book of my memory because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► because of because I converted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/875">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► somehow into a into a story that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/879">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► was a that was a bigger story and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► know it was more meaningful and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► within the fog of this like I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/889">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► the fish bar I definitely know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► where that is i could probably find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► even but I don't know who I was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/897">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► I can picture this priest I know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► what he looked like I know right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► you're at the bar where we were standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/910">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► and I remember the five minutes that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/911">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► and and so why did I convert that of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/919">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► the things that happened that night you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► know why was that a thing that turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► into in a way like a marble-like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/927">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► became hard like a marble and went into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► my bag of marbles and you'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► yourself wondering you're disputing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/935">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► it's it's pretty well it's a the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► doctor who fixed point I'm like it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► happened this is your marble well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► because unlike unlike childhood memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► where you know you've looked through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► photo album sitting on your mom's lap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► she's told you about the picture you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► looking at that affects your memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► it and pretty soon you're like I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► remember the time I stuck a knife into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► light socket like well do you or have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► you looked at that photo album so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► times and you know but but this memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► of this priest I had no second there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/972">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► no other confirmation of it is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► like you could see it like a movie right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/979">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► you can see it but that scene playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/980">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► understand memory works is you recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► that clip you play it for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► Yuri remember it and then you store it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► away so with each rira memory I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/994">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► surely altered it but but I'm not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/998">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► know I'm not it's such a simple story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► right I'm not saying like the priest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► rode in on a on a like a custom lowrider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► bicycle and like there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► detail to it it's just this moment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► then and within that it's a very private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► recollection of me standing next to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► guy and and I think part of what part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► why it was so so why I took it away was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► that it was one of those early adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► interactions where I'm 19 the drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► age in idaho at the time was still 19 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► i could I was legally in this bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► legally standing there with one foot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► drinking an abomination really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► tomato juice half beer disgusting but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► was you know it was the flavor of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► ere this area and the fish bar is back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► in the woods and that was during that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► during that era of white supremacy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► northern Idaho so hayden lake and the be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► a white nationalists were very active in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► that area at the time and it so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► was all this like all this adulthood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► I was feeling in that moment like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► is what adults do they state they go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► bars and they drink like terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► potions and I'm talking to a priest like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► a real priest not it is not a junior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► priest he's not he's not a minister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► he's a priest like he's a priest who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► goes all the way back to st. Peter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► this is what he wants to talk about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► so here so I'm a math test of a grown-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► yeah right like I guess this is I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► at the time I had no way of knowing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► conversations are going to be like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► going to be drinking beer mixed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► something in a bar shaped like an animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► it doesn't know the animal we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► yet if we do all we know is it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► some kind of a spiritual clergy person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► we don't know what it could be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► right it could be in a pig bar somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► to be grabbing can find a big-block the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► great lords day something big bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► there's a sense that outside the doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► of the bar there like very quickly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► right across the parking lot and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► it's a dirt parking lot right so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► the parking lot feels little wild but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► right across the parking lot you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► the you're in the wilderness of northern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► Idaho and you are surrounded by clansmen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► or worse skinheads and and what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► talk about what is there to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► like if he had said how many times do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► you come a day I could have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► this is what were this is what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► talking about i guess i'm new here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► exactly like 19 19 years old and ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► to you know I could go to Vietnam right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► now if it was 20 years ago but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► but but instead i'm learning about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► it is to be a man here if you can learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► how to be a man it might as well be from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► a priest and a fish bar in Idaho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► so why the fuck would that turn into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► ok so I'm going to decide this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► another one of those i won't say it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► old person thing i'll say a funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► about young people here there's a thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► here when you're young you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► about your poop when you're young you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► don't think about your memories you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► don't have any reason to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► everything is running as far as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► running like a top so I mean even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► psychology classes i would hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► things like how memories actually work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► which seemed completely foreign because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► my memories were great i know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► what are you here think about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► like cognitive biases and go home oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► that's very interesting for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► aren't as smart as me and now like today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► I kits one thing to like realize you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► don't remember things you don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► things is another thing to remember you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► don't remember them as well as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► thought but i'll tell you what fucks me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► up hard is when I think it's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► what you're saying which is that tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► that old VHS tape of that memory every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► time you play it degrades a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► yeah every time you tell that story it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► gets further even if it's not a tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► it's still kind of make exaggerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► might get slightly but each time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► hearing that as well as saying it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► that's I think hurting some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► fidelity of the original memory if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► was ever there at all because it gets me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► is like when I find out I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► something wrong when I have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► that I consider like a hard little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► marble and then I've been telling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► story for years and somebody goes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► not how that went and I feel I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► chasing is to tell this one of my go-to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► stories and interviews for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► we've seen how to get into max let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► this the same story over and over which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► is that I had dated this wonderful woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► when i started my freshman year she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► a magnavox word processor i wrote all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► papers on it and when she broke up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► me I had to learn to you know type on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► something else and i ended up going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► the maclab and every little bit of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► is true i think except for one important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► detail i went to lunch with her one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► after she had heard this anecdote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► she said you know you broke up with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► up and all i need to do was hear her say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► those words and I went oh my god you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► right i broke up with you it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► I guess it's not the crucial to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► story but how much else did I get wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► god that's a real tentpole of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► what an asshole I I had a wonderful love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► wonderful girlfriend from New England [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► with a magnavox and broke up with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► oh you jerk I felt like such a dick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► it's exactly the kind of just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► exactly the kind of thing now that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► me doubt myself because I am one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► those people who says i don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► things i thought i remembered that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► like I wonder how much other stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► remember the context wrong or I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► take a step back and think about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► well I feel like when I when I learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► that a story that I've told a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► many times has a factual error it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► usually exactly the thing we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► about which is that I say you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► second time I went to see The Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► Dead I met up with my bro in his focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► wagon bug and we smoked pot the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► way over from Spokane and Santana was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► the opener and that was the night that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► got thrown out of the the tacoma dome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► because I had a bottle of peach schnapps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► and a guy found me in through the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► it's an amazing story and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► it's just peach schnapps give me a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► it said he said he said to the guy take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► away the shots that let me stay right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► yeah i think this story is a good story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► yeah except that the peach schnapps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► Torre was actually ZZ Top at the tacoma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► dome and everything else was a was true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► about the second time I saw the Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► Dead and the the conflation of the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► things and and what what ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► like like what would what ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► just sort of the window dressing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► story because i feel like the reason the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► peach schnapps story or the or the fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► bar story like the reason that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► turns into a marble and you walk away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► with it is that I've been trying to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► for the for the intervening 25 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► right I pull that marble out sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► is this where this story belongs did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► learned that because it applies here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► I and I push it into a to contemporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► context like the peach schnapps story at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► ZZ top fits here and I and I try it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► and that that because i'm looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► place where that is a metaphor for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► I'm trying to I'm trying to interpret a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► new experience and I know I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► carrying around this bag of marbles for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► a reason and I go is that I I reach in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► and I'm like does this story finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► makes sense in the context of this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► information who and in most cases you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► know you've tried to fit in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► kinda but every once in a while you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► one of those where you just stick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► thing in there and it just locks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► the story is completed like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► lot of incentive for you to crack that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► Marvel in half and make sure it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► you thought it was right so so but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► the question of like was it the was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► grateful better ZZ top like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► stuff is this is the Shocker where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► like I've been telling the story wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► the whole time not awful but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► ultimately that doesn't matter unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► you're trying to I mean that isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► the reason you you made that into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► story to carry with you unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► sitting around in a group of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► and everybody's telling Grateful Dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► stories and I think usually that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► it comes out you start to tell you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► grateful that story like holy shit when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► i get better the Grateful Dead story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► yeah it's better as a grateful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► story but the thing is I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► get kicked out of a grateful dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► concert for having peach schnapps don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► think you get kicked out from making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► peach peach now haha I feel like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► the security guards at the tacoma dome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► at a Grateful Dead and Santana show have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► yeah whereas at the ZZ Top show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► whatever reason come on they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► they're looking for southern comfort and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► they found peach schnapps in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► instance and like good enough you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1554">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► does the terrible feeling you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► don't change topic but i heard a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► and I really liked it was it the Grange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► now I heard a song and I felt this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► little twinge on the back of my neck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► I thought my first of all I mean thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► was this song is really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► have you heard it before or her naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► body might have her I knew I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► was pretty sure I'd heard it before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► I was fighting myself because there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► a very strong feeling I was getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► it was almost certainly a grateful dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► song and I started feeling really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► about it cuz my marble does not fit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► and I took out my phone and I hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► shazam Oh box of rain from american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► beauty see what a nice song over my what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► what an excellent album i heard that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► I was like god dammit this fucks with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► marble set because you know I sit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► listen to that and thinking like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► could be something that REM put out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► 1986 you or you know or 4586 like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► really really great and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► extraneous and it's not full of bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► is let's kick with the Grateful Dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► it's very manicured and well edited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► i just made me angry but it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► american beauty is full of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► excellent songwriter and at that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► contemporaneous with the band and crosby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► Stills and Nash and all part of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► school as those guys and they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► like collaborating on records with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► another i mean they were they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► that was a that was there pop record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► it it's a fantastic album and yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► a really good pedal steel player right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► definitely plan to teach your children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► well and stuff like that who Jerry yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► place the pedal steel as i'm thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► right yeah I'm pretty sure i'll check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► I didn't know yeah I think he's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► accomplished guy and there was some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► of thing with the recording of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► album and maybe the one before it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► something happened he ended up having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► play more pedal steel and I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► what wouldn't surprise me I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► they're all really really good musicians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► because this fish except maybe Bob Weir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► put out but no I mean that the that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► yeah yeah like there's a lot of out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► tune singing and there's a lot of I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► there are a lot of those live recordings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► there so they're so messed up on drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► that it that it's just like no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► good but uh well I've got four years i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► have filed that I used to be kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► know because you know going to hippie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► school you end up hearing some Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► Dead but you hear about the Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► Dead a lot and it's another one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► things where you're like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► people who are into tool you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► like oh I don't and I couldn't even name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► a tool song but like the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► really into to lure the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► too scared to quote Sloan who you love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► consolidated you just like god you're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► yeah and now I think that's what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► and then as I grew as a person John i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► found it more under my more grown-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► thing from probably about maybe Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► revision 12 was like this is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► yeah and that was a perfectly fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► marble in a very sensible grown-ups lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► but now i don't know i might have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► back I might have to check my memories I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► feel like the the key the key elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► to be conscious of it in the Grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► Dead or that that they really pioneered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► the loud clean guitar tone who um which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► as Davis on pointed out the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► you here again in the Cure write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► check the clean-out loud guitar that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► not trying to be attending retrospect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► unprocessed because we are processed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► right listen to something like an echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► and the bunnymen or something like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► know there will be a lot of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► shaping of the sound right but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► you're right that's a really good points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► in has a great guitar tone it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► and and he's you know he's using like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► the chorusing effects that we started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► you know Jerry Garcia was doing all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► like in and out of phase stuff with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► you know he had one of those guitars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► that had 11 different switches on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► and its all all the switches are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► this pickups in phase now this pickups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► out of phase and and it creates a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► of chorusing or you know like filtering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► effect on the tone but really always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► very clean tone so there's that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► for me the other thing is phil lesh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► bass player never plays the same no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► twice his bass lines are these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► weaving bobbing up and down like courses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► of notes that if you just kind of zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► in on them their miraculous for because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► they're there you know whatever phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► however feel less here's the patterns of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► music it's like it's a dimension closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► to jazz or for you no further from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► surface of the earth and then where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► live and so hit the bass lines are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► really all over the place and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► extraordinary musical just musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► pieces on their own and then you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► course every every once in a while babe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► they would write a killer to ever so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► know I'm gonna get I'm gonna give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► another chance that this thing is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► appealing to me because somebody who I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► guess i have a feeling that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► bass players started guitar players and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► you can kind of tell who those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► don't you think you're saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► somebody who takes the base for what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► needs to be I mean like John Entwistle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► he might have started on guitar who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► knows but man he plays that like nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► else he plays the bass in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► whereas I'm more like Lou Barlow like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► like I'm out there going you know Gigi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► dcccd but did you know that I mean by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► yeah well good thing about Entwistle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► he he he looks so calm and implacable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► but in his bass playing there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► like ferociousness fire and fury just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► fury and Phil lashes again like another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► step out onto the grass from where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► there's not a lot of fury in phillips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► but it's not it's not just dumb called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► noodling either he is you know he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► chasing a unicorn across a lake and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► I don't know what I don't know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► at the time you know I really don't with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► whistle I know what I feel like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► because it connects with me so deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► you soo min if you listen to the WHO and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► you just zoom in on the base like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► will just have a tremendous experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► at that that for me is like very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► emotional and very like I yes and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► with and i think phil lesh you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► what we think of as like the noodling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► jam bands the in comprehensible noodling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► of jam bands me a little up with a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► of that kind of jazz infections like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► you don't get that stuff right it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► a pretty rough road but with interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► leaving when he does something like can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► express this like a little pentatonic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► Phil like a little doodoo kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► little thing sounds of buildings falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► down like the simplest little like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► is the end of this part of the verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► that he'll head is just like then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► really embarrassed to say this but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► three days ago I was watching are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► watching I'm sorry i was listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► soloed delhi-based parts on youtube you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► do not want to set me on the path of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► isolated tracks on youtube a bit much i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► have done it I've got quite a bit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► problem is that what I want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► going down there I'm just like stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► stop it stop it get out get out you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► listen to three-and-a-half long minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► you just listen to YYZ still with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► bass solo when you listen to the kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► yeah you are making a marble that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► are not going to find a slot for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► not going to fit this in anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► this is not useful but it's but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► thrilling you know I dive but when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► reasoning the reason i got me there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► i was listening to soloed helmet drum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► tracks that was the bells my entry point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► understand how to write that down that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► something if you've ever loses that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► can't see them recently I saw helmet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► within within a couple of years whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► their last ya back together and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► it was phenomenal but listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► drum tracks of helmet soloed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► like the first thing that you notice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► while that snare is really tuned up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► it as a tight snare and a ringing tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► ringing snare but then use the zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► because because the thing is for most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► the tune it's just kick and snare he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► not you know it's like nabil used to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► when we would do sound check and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► would you know they think i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► him hit the Tom 15 times for entering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► soundcheck and then people would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► well lets you know that like four times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► more times than I hit the time in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► entire set but like I just stated 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► times i hit four times during our set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► but uh but listening to the kick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► snare of of these helmet from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► isolated tracks the kick drum is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► dead-on so relentless and so like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► don't think of that you don't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► that music is having any swing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► it doesn't but the put the pocket of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► musicians forever in a day and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► not just not a lot it's not how the I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► really feel like I've reached some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► of a nadir of both music dorkiness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► we're just really every kind of darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► when I'm sitting there and like my one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► of my go-to news is dave grohl on queens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► of the stone ages and no one knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► uh-huh you know the song out do I that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► a hell did you do to this fills are from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► another planet but then so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► sitting there you turn it on and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► a lot quiet for a while and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► don't jump together and it's better the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► vast apart i remember i like for phils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► but because there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► guitars right so all year there's four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► films and I'm looking for but to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► there I listen to like three minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► well yeah basically my Sharona ah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► at all and all and I'm like that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► oh and as a monster it's depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► it's depressing but you know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► nice way to spend an evening i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► it's better than listening to noam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► chomsky lectures I guess I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► oh you said a mouthful thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► listening isolated in a ski we just here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► it's just isolated noam chomsky mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► we could all the word i just kept in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► smacking noises that queens of the stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► age record i have to say is like still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► real it's still a real influence on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► and I admit it I can't square that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► any of the music that I make no yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► but the sound the tone the feel of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► the the attitude of it it doesn't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► part of it is like I'm always really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► into music not always into i find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► when I think about the music that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► it sometimes it's it stands across two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► or three Chandra's you can very easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► put that into a couple different genres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► yeah but still it's it really is its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► thing and but its its its aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► without being like angrily stupid if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► there's something there's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► little bit of restraint to it not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► menace and considered it identity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► who's it had it had such a impact on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► and you know go with the flow is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► obviously like surfer philosophy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► stone and you know that they are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► famously a stoner band so but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► there's also like something ironic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► the delivery of go with the flow like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► her or with the background of the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► it feels like a pretty aggressive take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► on that on that like goat the flow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► yeah but in trying to try to take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► song apart and see what it's made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► I realized that like like a lot of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► songs there's nothing to it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► it's two quarts basically it's it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► the impact of the tune is 100-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► production and attitude right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► nothing complicated about it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► nothing it's just it's just sound and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► guess that's the thing as a songwriter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► that I've always like I always aspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► as a songwriter to write songs that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► not dependent on sound that the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► itself was elegantly built that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► pretty classic is a classic all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► that's kind of the classic idea of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► great songs you could play it just on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► piano you can play it on guitar by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► yourself right right and he doesn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► strings to be on like bittersweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► symphony like that i'm not sure how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► that will come across on the ukulele [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► yeah it wouldn't write but but solitary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► man can be covered by x 700 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► artists and the and the greatness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► yeah I don't think another band could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► cover go with the flow and make any dent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► it's always just going to be about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► album version is always going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► best because it's a it's a it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► sound creation and in it in a way that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► different from like the cure which all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► those records are sonic creations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► yeah but like you could cover a cure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► cool interpretation of it and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► into something different but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► couldn't cover my bloody valentine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► and so I exactly what I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► thinking we're Queens of the Stone Age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► go you know how they managed to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► that my bloody valentine category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► although the songs have hooks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► they're there pop but it's really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► it's a it's a cake of sound and you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► any one element and try and zoom in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► it and say like this is the guitar part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► it's like it's two chords it's just two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► cords through a distortion boxes nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► nothing so that so as I as I evolve as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► progress like my interest in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► five years has been about trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► these sonic tapestries but i don't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► that isn't my tradition and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► so in a way that's why I'm so why have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► been so unproductive like I want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► a record that sounds like loveless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► have for years but instead he yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► haha ah isn't that the story about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► how he like nearly bankrupted Creation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► Records with the the creation of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► record that said that supposedly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► yeah and and in a way I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► recording of it actually was the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► recording was pretty simple it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► like loud guitar mic in front of the am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► but when I hear stories about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► Lovelace was recorded where he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► created like a tent out of blankets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► would poke his head out and you know say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► to the engineer like just keep recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► don't ever talk to me through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► talkback mic and then he would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► going under the black or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► look under there for four hours and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► the engineers just like you know in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► of that time it's just the sound of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► doing um would be great i don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► the guys name would be great to be me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► like incredibly stressed out label owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► and you got to just kind of stick your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► head in to see how the historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► there's a blanket any difficulty he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► sorry man he's just under there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► feel like the lira by my understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► Lovelace was that though that the vocals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► were recorded maybe extemporaneously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► lot of the time and they just would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► under the blankets and like make mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► sounds and keep the tape rolling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► they made mouth sounds until those mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► sounds turned into word sounds and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► they did it until they had a until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► had to take food and it's not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► don't know I've never seen tell you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► my cocktail twins parodies but I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► like you know I actually have a fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► long winters record that is all that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► vocals on 13 songs that are all mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► sounds brand Devonshire get us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► trouble a mi know ya level is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► sure my father had to do it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► sweater ice cream sundae kg always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► entertained on what I'm afraid of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► that I'm gonna die in a plane crash good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► somebody's gonna be like let's go on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► computer and find all the unreleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► long yeah I know like like they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► cop son like the estate this is the cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► in it just takes all that was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► looks like John was almost done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► this exhibitor should I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► hanging chung Tang or like even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► hand those things off to my friends like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► hey would you guys like to finish this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► oh ok let my soul Mike Squires revenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► yeah exactly handed off to to like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► cross-section of the American Romans god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► what a nightmare John would think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► all of the disgruntled ex long winters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► people together to report that are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► every every singer in the country that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► has some like vague grudge but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► never fully articulated that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► oh yeah let's say I decided to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► microsoft itself let's uh let's solo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► vocals on this track see what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► what I don't not going to add anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► to that vocal tract I think it's perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► as it is I saw colin Meloy in a bauble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► yeah let's leave that well yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► video was directed by alicia roze who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► a suspect funny video friend and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► the original sort of stylist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► photographer of the decemberists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► everything all those photographs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► you see of them you know like holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► red flags on top of a castle mount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► looking like diluted minors on a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► yeah I don't little a big part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► big part of that look that to find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► early on was that all the pictures were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► so she's a Portland she's Portland ridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► yeah and apparently she has like naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► hot tub parties to is that right i keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► getting invited down to like hey if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► like I don't know really terrible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► you to misunderstand that invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► you know like that can really then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► this could be a memory thing with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► maybe you heard that wrong forgive my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► saying but like what you know what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► you got that a little bit wrong and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► well back in the old days i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► looking through some photographs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► other day and i see i found all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► pictures of me in the very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► nineties in my when I was in my modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► primitive culture i was still I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► pretty much like I am now but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► whatever reason i have found myself in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► modern primitive circle for for a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► portion of my of my social like calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► and that involved a lot of mud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► nakedness and industrial music and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► early days of tattoos in in places other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► than on your forearms and of of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► graphic elements other than anchors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► and I was always you know a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► outside because I'm always a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► outside of every culture i participate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► in but this group of people really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► didn't brace me and I embraced them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► a period of a few years we were all very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► close and and covered with mud and part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► of that was that we you know like it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► could not put intoxicating substances in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► us fast enough but there are a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► i have a couple of photographs of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► like sitting next to a fire pit with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► with a like a dreadlocked girl sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► in my lap and like a a bald guy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► long goatee and like pan boots is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► playing up playing the flute and dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► around of a goat carcass like and I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► at how peaceful years goat and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► what the what the fuck was I up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► I was a long time ago but then i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► guess at the time I was trying to trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► to figure out what what was next in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► world there that that seemed that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► that was the logical extension of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► hippie values would lead to I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► right i mean that seemed like next-gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► friendly anymore it was it was trending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► dark again who and and I felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► felt like I needed to I need to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► boots-on-the-ground figure out what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► figure out what this was all about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► it's yeah well or like like remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► logger boots however every I mean lose I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► think back now and I'm like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► what logger boots are really expensive i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► didn't have logger boots at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► just had some old boots but like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► were a lot of people in logger like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► there's always a real high up lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► yeah right with all the extra light pole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► climbers with you and I never I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► have any money then so I never will I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► didn't even go to the store to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► how much those things cost i just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► Martin seeming out of my range that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► they were they were a hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► right and I mean you could buy back then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► you could get a pair of chuck taylors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► for fifteen dollars so I so I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► what you know kind of waltzing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► through that culture and definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► feeling like everybody's got amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► boots and I think the boots that i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► they passed muster because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► just thrashed um they were just old but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► they weren't tall and I think back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► think now I'm like even then those boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► were probably two hundred dollars two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► hundred dollars at a time when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► making two hundred dollars a month just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► a minivan days I don't you well know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► was making zero dark zero point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► dollars a month then but like even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► I had a job right i mean i-i all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► worst thing I was going through a box of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► papers not very long ago and i found up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► Oh No 1994 for little heart drunk a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► hundred and fifty dollars that was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► much money it was incredible $350 he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► it for a reason is oversight fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► idea how how that well this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► how would that have ended up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► bombing I definitely have a lot of boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► I you know I have a stack inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► I have a stack of cigar boxes that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► are that's that's probably a 5-foot tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► stack of cigar boxes and there's a cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► there's a cigar box for concert tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► there's a cigar box for unused drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► tickets because everywhere i go i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► paid and drink tickets and I don't drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► so i should be able to play your meat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► rather than have those out to people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► say like hey everybody i got ten drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► tickets why don't you go get yourself an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► extra drink instead I greedily keep them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► and I go home and I put you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► probably have $50,000 it just lets get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► you mentally calculating what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► actually i have i have a separate cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► box for like sports game tickets a cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► box for old IDs a cigar box for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► people's ideas that i find you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► looking up and down the stack of cigar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► boxes there are a lot of different uh oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► well I to cigar boxes i have a cigar box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► for backstage passes that are stickers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► and then a separate cigar box for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► backstage passes that our laminate do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► you smoke that much i will also get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► another one is just for cigar box so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► yeah I collect cigar boxes so I'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► out looking for specific boxes but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► somehow in one of these cigar boxes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► have an uncashed pay stub from the from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► 1994 and I'm like I knew enough I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► enough somehow to put this in a box but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► not enough to cash it i can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► it's one of those like a canary a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► butterfly in China situation if i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► cash that hundred and fifty-five have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► interest on that would be well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► think it's I don't think I think it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► email on the compound interest John not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► it's a thing but what I'm saying is if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► had cashed it then if i had an extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► hundred and fifty dollars that month in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► 1984 would i be where I am today o.o you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► might be way down in the hole right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► with the decisions I made based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► having that extra hundred fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► set me on a separate phone you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► would not have put it into a retirement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► no but I might have bought a who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► and i'm a bottom an ice cream cake I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► might have a single auger bit I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► have bought yeah put a down payment on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► pair of logger boots I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► what the I got fired one time and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► sitting in a cafe the next day like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► of bemoaning having been fired and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► good friend Chris camellia who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► came in sat down he was like you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► you got fired and I was like yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► and he said how much money do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► in the bank and i said well i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► actually been saving for the last year i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► got 800 bucks in the bank and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► like what are you gonna do with the 800 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► bucks and i said i don't know probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► drink for a couple of months he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► you're going to take that a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► bucks and you're just gonna you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► going to sit around not work and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► just drink and I was like can you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► of something better like yes I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► looking forward to this summer we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► opens up your schedule and he said let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► go right now and buy you a guitar and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► was like what it was like for 800 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► you can get a killer guitar and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► always talking about wanting to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► music you're always talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► you don't even have a fucking electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► guitar I was like well yeah you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► things like let's go let's get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► bus go to the guitar store buy a guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► and it was such a revolutionary idea I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► was like okay and we walked out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► cafe got on the bus went to the guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► I what I had never perceived myself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► having this opportunity before and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► went down to the trading musician in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► university district and I walked in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► that blonde rickenbacker what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► sitting on a stand inside the door and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► was like well I can't afford a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► bakr and the price tag said it was from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► 1967 and it was 650 dollars and it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► Gibson pickups it and I was like look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► that and I picked it up and I played it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► and Chris was like people create the AFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► they were p is but they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► sixties like the late sixties Gibson Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► pickups that somebody had taken out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► Rickenbacker's and put these Gibson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► you know like sixties Gibson's in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► and I was like I must have seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► so much money it was extraordinary was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► my entire was almost my entire savings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► and I was like look at this thing and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► was like you can buy it right now and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► was i put it down and I walked around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► the store and I spent a couple hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► looking at every other guitar and I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► coming back to this rickenbacker he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► like and Chris was standing there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► like that's the one you want buy it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► is what people do with money they buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► the thing that they want with it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► like but but but but but it's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► money and this money I could live on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► this money I could I could I could drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► a thousand paps blue ribbons with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► month and he was like or you could buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► this guitar and i bought it i took it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► to the counter and i said i will buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► this guitar and it was the first real i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► think in a way the first real thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► well and that guitar was the guitar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► i started the button family players with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► and the guitar that i started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► Western State hurricanes with and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3438">TS</a>]
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00:57:30 ◼ ► have thought it was chris community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPjbOLY/3450">TS</a>]
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