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00:00:29 ◼ ► hello hey John hi Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► good we should you should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/33">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► listening to born slippy I'm totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/40">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► pumped now are you pumped that my dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► Marte in the manger bar in the door was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/44">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► she was a lipstick boys you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► beautiful boy and deer bones that help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► you stretched i did my usual warm-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/54">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► yeah yeah was that uh which is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► listen to elliott smith's waltz number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/63">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► haha oh and was a again reduced to tears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/67">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► wats number three I know what's number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► two including the core all right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► it's no balls number two its oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► he has lots of Watts's but i keep I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► I keep upgrading it to the third waltz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► because I feel like it's really too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► waltzes you're talking about never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► we've talked about this song many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► it's AI don't know why that song levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► me I keep plumbing its depths you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► my interpretation of so what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/100">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► was I you know I borrowed a car from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► friend several years ago which I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► driving and in the car was a mixtape CB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► that she made be many years before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► and I never figured out where the CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► changer was so I just have this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► mixtape in there standing there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► whole time it's been there the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/126">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► time while about four years that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► had the car and the second song on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► mixtape is terrible and you could the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/133">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► first song on the mixtape is waltz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► number two and then you could you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► tell that she wanted to like get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/143">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► know get back in a happy mood or so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► like the second song on the tape is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► and now we're gonna like pop it up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► the second song is I won't even mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► it's so terrible that i have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► listened to any of the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► i just i turn on get in the car i turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► on the stereo i listen to waltz number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► sometimes I listen to it again and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/168">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► I've been doing that for years but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► never been curious to see what or had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► accidentally go on you never found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► yourself playing the rest of the tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► because the second song is so bad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► soon as the opening because sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► I'll get so lost in a reverie about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► Walt's number two that I will I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► forget what's coming and then the then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/191">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► the neck that's opening chords of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► next song like the cords offend me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► before the vocals even come in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► because I'm in such a state of Walt's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► number two that that will that I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► that get that next guitar and I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► like die a thousand deaths and I lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► for the thing so i have no idea maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► the rest of the mixtape is amazing maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► there are other songs to discover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► plum their depths but i'll never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/220">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► because I also a month for up even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/222">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► though i've had this car for years i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/226">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► unfamiliar enough with the stereo that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/227">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► don't know how to skip to the next song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► but so I've spent all this time inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► of this one song interpreting it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/234">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► living it and you know my sense of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► song is that he's writing to his step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/242">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► yeah it is what I get and it's also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► of a suicide note you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► bridges here today here today expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/251">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► huh I'm tired tired so tired and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/258">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► just like uh looking out on a substitute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► seen oh alright but the problem is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► the I get in the car in the morning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► I head out into the world like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► don't cat chat here we go check it i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► a lot of shit to do today and I listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► to this one three and a half minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/280">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► long song and then i'm kinda useless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/281">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► mhm yes because we're going to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► well because i feel i see i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► I don't know great the car borrowed now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► for about four years ok alright and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► this is not how you listen to music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► no no no but but but so the footer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/299">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► additionally the problem is that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► like as I've spent all this time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► this one song I feel like it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/307">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► accomplished in this song a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► perfection in making a thing and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/314">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► also sends me out when I but when i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► to my eventual destination I parked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/322">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► yeah like that's how you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► working yeah he really made a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► there and that's really you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► it's like it's like it's like a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► definition of weariness like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► even when it starts it starts out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► that like the waltz easiest ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► don't chat is the walks easiest waltz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► you've ever heard and then it's like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► size its way into the strum chords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► getting getting getting and every you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► know it all comes in and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► goddamn cellos at the barre and he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► what what you can only presume if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► imagine songs are recorded if you do if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► you imagine as I do that there at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► band that makes the song is all in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► room a lot Pet Sounds and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/368">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► sitting there the whole time weight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► yeah there's like six jealous jealous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► just sitting and they and they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► performance in that like it just source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► through the whole tune they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► sitting there and then wow wow oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/380">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► dammit now that Taoism man i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► that's a pretty perfect song I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► are you but so that's I mean I gotta get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► I mean you know some people get up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► get on the stairmaster they get up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► they designed some apps in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► round we should do something going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► workflow they get a workflow who and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► workflow is just like wake up getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► borrowed car to listen to the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► depressing perfect song and then try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/410">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► make my way to the end of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► they're gonna send me down elliott smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► all because I can't even tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► my favorite elliott smith song is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► because it's one of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► it's it's almost like the Beatles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/424">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► on which of which he was obviously a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► we're like I find myself going oh no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/428">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► oh oh no you know hi my name feta means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/432">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► I mean like oh my god how did have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► guy do it and that yet little line at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/439">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► boom it's just a little under played and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► like it's so low-key but you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► had set the tone know if you really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► to get up and make an appt you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/452">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► need something might put on maybe a midi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► uh listen songs and oh i see a metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► that make him make you mad get up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► make an appt yeah i got apps to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► sometimes you gotta get mad at least you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► know it was though I've heard amity like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► in on a jukebox in a bar it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/468">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► okay it's just it's such an uneven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► number which record that's on I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► it's on that record and it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► such a sore thumb on that record it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► that record so you know it just becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► evident comes blaring out and it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► would throw me off and I was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/483">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► experiencing the same thing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► experiencing which is like well I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► the perfect I've got the perfect song on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► the rest of this Merton mixtape should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/494">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► I can't do that the rest of this album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► should just be this one song that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► that that is the perfect expression of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► growing up in a household with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/505">TS</a>]
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00:10:48 ◼ ► like the seventies folk scene have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► really been explored enough now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/651">TS</a>]
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00:11:00 ◼ ► like it's just exploring that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► little seventies thing that I seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► folk thing that I feel like we're we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► kind of had enough of even then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► rejected at the time and I'm just done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/669">TS</a>]
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00:11:14 ◼ ► another acoustic guitar maybe not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/674">TS</a>]
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00:11:20 ◼ ► something will come on it'll really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/680">TS</a>]
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00:11:38 ◼ ► it's like $75 and as I walked in they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/698">TS</a>]
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00:12:03 ◼ ► a really long time that's what good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/723">TS</a>]
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00:12:07 ◼ ► space to it looks like their seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/727">TS</a>]
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00:12:16 ◼ ► go back and recapture that people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► been trying for decades brother Louie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► like there's these certain songs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► the seventies that like have such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/742">TS</a>]
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00:13:57 ◼ ► course like we haven't even said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/837">TS</a>]
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00:14:01 ◼ ► and Fleetwood Mac actually took that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/841">TS</a>]
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00:14:48 ◼ ► there's something like you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/888">TS</a>]
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00:14:53 ◼ ► guy's name yeah that's all oh what's his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/893">TS</a>]
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00:14:59 ◼ ► I think pink 00 Bob pink yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/899">TS</a>]
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00:15:09 ◼ ► even yeah it's fine like there is a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► of this must just because i was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/911">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► kid knows a lonely kid and listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► non-stop am radio when I wasn't watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► I was listening am radio like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► time and snoopy of the Red Baron after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► that there are none of the century had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/925">TS</a>]
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00:15:32 ◼ ► early interest in mia in the German war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► yeah sure I mean that's how i got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► world war one was the ballad of snoopy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/937">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► in the Red Baron I was like I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► know more about this story tell me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/941">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► about the Snoopy is interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/942">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► there's all kinds of songs like that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/946">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► recollection of like standing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► certain place being like exactly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► certain age I know what season it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► know what like month that was when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► came out and I don't know that some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► them are just really fixed in time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/959">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► Tennille stuff like I feel like my when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► I hear captain and Tennille that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/969">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► oh it's nothing like the proto sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/975">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► something they were seeing in there know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► what it was I didn't I didn't I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► know what a-what lady parts looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► even but I knew that to neal had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► expressing a thing that I wanted to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► know in a way that Abba was too polished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► and there were too many people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► Camille and you know the captain had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► that hat and the dark glasses you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► weren't sure what he was doing today but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► yeah if my name were Darryl dragon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► would not call myself captain haha you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► at least call yourself captain dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► no-brainer my god fucking dragon but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► nothing on the cap just call me captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► yeah because I got Michael I got a hat I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► yeah yeah I don't know I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► at you right now I mean how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► recreate that that sound in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► environment and you know maybe part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► it was there was maybe a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► money around like you say that's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► little more time in the studio yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► I but there's others something to gain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► on the board and I think I think you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► hit it which is that there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► emptiness to those tracks where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► listen to it and you can hear every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► element it doesn't feel empty it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► impossibly full alright but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► space their space between the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► it's a little bit of a holdover from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► the restrictions of the four-track where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► there still was like a lot of spookiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► yeah and then still like okay the chorus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► or you know okay here the guitar part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► coming in and we're going to put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► guitar part on the lead vocal channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► because we don't want to waste the tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► space or something you know like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► it doesn't have the excess of later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► where it's just like well we got 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► tracks so let's just have 24 instruments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► it's there's still a little bit of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► like okay and then the acoustic guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► comes in but then when it goes away it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► goes away and it isn't replaced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► something it's just like everything does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► a little bit of work and then goes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► don't know I admire it so much it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► evocative I said almost on rumors the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► never known back again and down yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► mean and I'm like that's the just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► it's because a great creepy a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► Buckingham is intrinsically creepy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► know but he and Brady spits he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► sentimental lady mm you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► hear that impeccable guitar sound here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► uh I mean that's Christine McVie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► you know he used to be when he was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► even more cocaine i think i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► think it's cocaine use it just went up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► and up and up but he has to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► employee with mac for I think a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► oh I'm sorry Bob Welch oh oh icic yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► he was in fleetwood mac in the interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► transitional Fleetwood Mac he might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► maybe guy I used to know this by heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► here I think I know something is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► google me I'm trying to do that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► wasn't on the rumors but I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► Fleetwood Mac record let's go look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► our friend wikipedia right boys a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► creepy guy smoking a big cigar in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► video's yeah yeah yeah he died what well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► yeah a lot of a lot of people have died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► when you put it that way you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► yeah died right thoughts ice pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► I said head yet I boom yeah I well she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► is 71 invited to join there's friction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► in the band believe it or not there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► friction in fleetwood mac antfee where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► there weren't even any girls in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► and already fiction maybe he didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► anyone to get on the side maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► maybe was Dylan john mcvie that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► Christine got involved she was like i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► joined this band now what a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► you don't have tonight like having sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► with other people in your band who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► married to other people in your band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► it's a pretty terrible idea i have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► in bands with gals that i have found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► attractive even and that's got me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► that was it is a very handsome woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► yeah I've always drawn the line I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► feel like you know it's bad it's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► what's better is I mean it's dead yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► business its work like what it's what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► terrible idea although there are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► kinds of situations where it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► don't like that guitar part that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► playing I don't think you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► the other person says like it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► my guitar parts not your place to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► and if you could just say like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► fuck that would hear a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► resolved the issue if you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► done it with Mike Squires just think how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► much how much attention you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► releases just blown off the tension and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► then it's just like you know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► turns out i love your guitar parts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► thanks I'm learning here let's see em in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► 1972 six months after the release of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► future games the band released Fleetwood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► Mac release bare trees which featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► watches song sentimental lady and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► original version of sentimental lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► home this is why you dig into the deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► cuts yeah i want to go i just am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► listening to this one song over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► five years so I mean I i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► about it it kind of goes against my hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► like I'm not a fan of things a premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► better stopping and then but then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► goes all the way through to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► side of the i'm not a fan of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► premise to like oh sure i'm a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► things sometimes this is why i'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► fan of things because if I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► something i'll just look I'll just enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► it alone for five years darling that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► not the way to really absorb a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► culture you know I met Dan Harmon the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► other day I wait I know this Dan Harmon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► is the guy from the TV show that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► ok and and I and I made the classic I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► only done this a few times in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► but but but one whatever i do it blows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► up in my face I said there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► there's some guys they were like you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► to meet Dan Harmon i was like i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► don't really care to meet Dan Harmon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► don't know what do you get it was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► say you know well so let me tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► what I said look they're like no no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► guys got to meet each other's is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► important like you're like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► ok so find out me Dan Harmon so I walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► in and dan harmon's in there and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► you know kept pacing the room he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► obviously he gives up the energy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► being like a lion right he's in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► of the room he's the reason that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► room was built to house Dan Harmon for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► this short amount of time and and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► I like that energy i appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► energy here's a you know here's a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► there's a Greybeard hoop kind of feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► like every room in the world was built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► to house him every room he ever enters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► and and you know my interlocutors take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► me over and say like John rock Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► Harmon Harmon John Rother can I put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► my hand and I say you're ready for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► god I say hi nice to meet you big fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► because because I don't know why I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► I don't have you ever seen this program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► no okay see that's that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► worried about ya i have one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► Jonathan Coulton said you really gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► see this episode of community which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► like the Christmas episode and it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► do it as a musical and he showed it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► me and I thought it was very charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► but that is the only one of any of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► things I have seen so I walking out now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► technically in the usual sense of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► phrase a big fan but I really and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► turned somebody makes you watch your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► show but maybe what I I could have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► that I John Roberts somebody made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► watch one of your shows one time I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► I don't know why that one time that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► the hilarious 11 time 10-15 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► Shawn Nelson and I were standing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► and a guy comes up and says hi at a bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► and I mistook him for someone else and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► was like oh hey man great to see you hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► great show the other night and the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► looked at me and was like what show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► don't go and in the moment that he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► he was a guitar player an entertainer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► but it was just a different guy than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► thought and in the moment that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► saying that I'm realizing a that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► it wrong and he's like what show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► said no all the great shows on now all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► the great shows that you have played big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► big fan and so Sean still like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► every once in a while you know say to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► like all the crates shows the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► like as a bit of a shutdown but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► so I say to Dan Harmon hey hi nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► meet you big fan and i don't i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► thinking that he's at this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► that everybody's a big fan of his and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► that this is just going to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► hi big fan and he's gonna go hi thanks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► lot and it's going to be it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► thing is you didn't go wrong in a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► that that is a really good generic thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► to say to somebody where you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► going to be a 15-second interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► because it takes a lot of the pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► off except that he shakes my hand looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► at me and goes oh yeah fan of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► and I went uh arm you know some of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► I'm like some of your old shows and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► says which one time and I and he's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► don't know whether he senses that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► got me on the ropes something here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► you guys to watch you swing he's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► to kill me now I mean I just I walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► into the Lions Den covered in fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► hamburger and I'm like uh and then I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► don't even remember the name of his show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► that I did see one episode of and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► I'm like uh a community and he goes oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► you mean the one that's back on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► now mm he's not gonna let you off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► it's not letting me go and everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► the room is like like watching a lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► take apart a lamb and I'm sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► like still still clinging to this the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► the to the to the little tail lights on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► disappearing into the message there goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► the Train big fan big fan train and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► standing there and I you know and i and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► part of me wants to be like you got me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► have never seen anything you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► I've heard your name i guess i read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► wired once people talk about you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► you are important and matter and i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► wanted to be part of that for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► really just time to go for me now and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► and he just he presses the he presses in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► and so I am trying to convert and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► know Joel McHale is a long winter span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► that's cool and that's the star of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► case for our community and he and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► had many many good times he's come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► many long winter shows we've like we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► a lot of we ran into each other once at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► legoland in san diego special did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► decide to pivot to Joel Joel McHale and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► I have a lot of good history and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► except as i'm picking it's like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► brought in a different coupon from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► different part that's like giving like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► well actually I know a couple of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► on your show as i'm doing it i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► remember joel mchale's name he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► crude because joel mchale has a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► kind of like Nick Drake he's got one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► those one of those my friend market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► calls it the snap to grid name where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► sounds like lots of other names gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► you know what I Joel Grey is running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► jumping over a john mccrae that guy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► the hair that Joe Joe mar kale and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► get your sledging it that's so I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► you know big and he's like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► whatever though the show the back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1738">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► there and I'm like oh well yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► I'm come kind of pretty good friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► with the couple of people on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► oh god and i can't remember his name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► I'm like rm10 and so Gillian Jacobs what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► I've met her a couple of times in LA and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► I fell in immediately in love with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► did I ever tell you that story now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► were at the Chateau Marmont and in at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► first glance i felt like oh here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► little blonde actress like I'm not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► I'm not predisposed to be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► her but we're standing and looking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► over the balcony and LA and and she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► see that building over there and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► and kind of distracted not even paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► much attention and she says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► building was built by the guy who built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► the original garden of Allah which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► where Groucho Marx met Joan Didion in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► the piano and I was just like I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► slow take a look over at her like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► are blowing my mind right now and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► she starts talking about the tile in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► bathroom of the of this building that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► once that was torn down many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► and over the course of 20 minutes she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► reveals that she knows all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► architecture all of the historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► architecture of La that it's just one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► the many fascinating little l elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► aspects of her of her like expansive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► intelligence that's not fair and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► like so I'm sitting there all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► sudden I'm like well I I'm in love with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► you are you do you have a boyfriend are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► you are you famous actress of some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► of you know and have and because I what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► I had never seen her show I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► aware that she I didn't know that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► was a like famous I was just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► you are extraordinary did you study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► architecture can we talk more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► architecture i would like to hear more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► about la through your eyes little guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► guide to the world for me and she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► you know she's so she became kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► this light in the sky for me like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► god there are people like Gillian Jacobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► out there in the world dinner that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► like comedic actresses on popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► television shows and also interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► esoteric architecture stories so I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► little late in life to learn that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► pretty painful it's tipped it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► excruciating and I'm sure that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► dating some a guy that has expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► sunglasses you know it's just like la [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► but in any case i'm looking at Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► Harmon and I'm like I know two people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► your show that i have lots of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► about that we can talk about and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► remember either one of their names and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► but I didn't remember to not say that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► know some people on it show and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► yeah and i'm like some actors that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► on your show and I met you know my you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► can just you can smell the diesel oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► burning out of my ears and he there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► other people in the room he could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► talking to he's telling you though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► think you're gonna you're gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► sacrificial lamb literally he has he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► he plants both feet leans in and is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► like tell me more about that about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► actors on my shows that you know and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► like I brr-brr are rare and i'm not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► I don't care about Dan Harmon in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► sense of like oh my god I'm talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► i'm nervous because i am just fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► I'm shoving like actors feet that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► whats in my mouth and eventually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► arrived at a place where Dan Harmon just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► stops talking and I stopped talking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► we stand there and he's looking at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► and I'm looking at him and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► remember joel mchale's name and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► Joel Joel McHale as it is it to prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► now you finally proven you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► you remember the name of a TV star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► jumped bail is the guy that I know uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► and it probably ended right there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► well you just just stood and I stood we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► stared and I and I finally I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► I can only imagine it was not very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► but it seemed like a thousand years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► I finally was just like okay all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► nice meeting you you know just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► like turn and go and it was instructive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► that it was instructive for me that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► that the that I do a lot of that social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► lubricant of like all the great shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► hi great to see you and i'm not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► fan it's not great to see them and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► don't i don't know I i picked up those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► habits from my dad probably has a way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► just like moving through a crowd and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► remembering their names you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► it's a version of all of that but boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► every once in a while it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► stepping in a bear trap when you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► you when you encounter someone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► prepared to turn around and go oh your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► won't you tell me more about that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► don't know why I don't know how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► smelled it or if or if he didn't if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► just like who I mean maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► initially he really wanted to hear me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► I doubt it I don't know pretty pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► gross you you accidentally became pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► LA I did I did I because isn't that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► mean that's pretty acceptable their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► right to go i letting you know love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► when you do the thing in the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► was that's totally like showbiz manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► greaseball kind of talk like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► basically I was basically at cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► playing a lawyer big fan i worked with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► couple of people on your show you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► it's like I kinda you know I I handled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► the divorce of one of your gardeners or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► I'm Dan Harmon but I i sometimes just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► you know for a little bit of a diversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► sometimes i like to fuck with PR people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► do a similar thing we were there like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► you know I represent the CEO of plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► on and know that you'd be really in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► big big big big fan of your work from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► way back i love you have a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► have an interview with the CEO tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► you get those kinds of things a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► I usually just you know hit ! in google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► and marketing spam but sometimes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► responded i'll say wow that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► what's your uh what's your second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► let's talk a little bit about like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► the great stuff I do uh oh my god the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► way you help people with your website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► you haven't updated in four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► that's oh my god that's amazing the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► yeah that's one of the way I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► things like that happens is never done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► anything like that poorly that that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► that demands a predator always told he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► absolutely absolutely predator and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► was picking his teeth with my shin bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► yeah and after that and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► unfortunately for me it didn't happen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► stage we were just in a green room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► somewhere and they were like three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► four people standing around all of whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► you know went over to see if there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► any strawberries on the craft services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► table because they couldn't handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► that at the fucking smell of blood in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► the air as I'm standing there like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► you know what I got a lot of words uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► for not talking about anything right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► that I could use those words because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► don't know what I because I'm because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► started because i can remember words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► terra I should help man i got a nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► boom and then gone and look for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► strawberries myself well you know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► bet life is hard for him because I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► if we are a little more charitable about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► it maybe it's that he really doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► obviously he doesn't like that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► phony baloney think maybe he's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► naturally nothing like an asshole or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► something but I can you imagine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► environment like that where you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► are like you're like you're like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► you're someone who doesn't like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► conversations like that and only doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► seem like you sail like when you meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► the Queen or we make sure you say Your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► Majesty versus your highness or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► you gotta learn the right way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► so don't piss anybody off but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► fun to live like that it's not fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► relationships or business so I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► know I wonder if he has a reputation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► something who knows I mean everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► seems to admire him and I certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► admire the way that he despatched me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► I not enough that i'm going to ever go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► watch a television show that was shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► but still are not here not here is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► anybody's right but but but that was uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► yeah that was really that was another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► one of the all the great shows moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► where I feel like I can be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► more little bit more careful about show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► business but you know it's it it is akin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► to show busy but really it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► really it's like regional politics you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► know what I mean like it's it's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► way of of making your way through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► um I think of it as being a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► like maybe not magic trick but an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► we're like for example like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► one of those phony baloney psychics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► you learn how to do cold readings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► the thing is like a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► would be amazed what somebody who's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► at cold readings can pull off especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► if you believe in the cold reading but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► somebody is good at cold reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► and read you really quickly and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► pull out certain factors that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► very likely to agree with early on they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► end up giving more information to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► and then pretty soon its own seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► they know your whole life and that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2398">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► think in some ways when you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► survive a reason regional politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► that's kind of what it is if you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► something that you know most people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► this person looks like agree with you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► yeah we can like lead the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► something we're going to give you enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► information that you can pay them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► compliment before going in refreshing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► normally if this was a bad situation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► reversed if Dan Harmon had come up to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► and said oh hey big fan i might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► said oh really of what I i do that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► same thing when I feel like I'm being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► showbiz uh I mean but you can also do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► non-stick way of going if i get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► somebody's actually you know saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► something really nice about which thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► is it this thing or that thing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► thanks that that's that's a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► you can have for sure he's making i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► well and the thing is if I had said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► mean I have I have Dan Harmon's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► Wikipedia page here if I had said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► are really ready for next time i was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► big fan of your animated adult swim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► animated television series Rick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► Morty with Justin roline bend and Rob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► mhm he would have been a he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► been like Oh Rick and Morty was she born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► on january third was in 1973 right super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► big fan of the way your ear you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► beard sometimes and us just to scruff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► don't be thinking of a different Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► Harmon are you the one who co-founded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► the television network / website channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► emmy-nominated part about things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► listened to an eponymous podcast called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► harmontown is that you google glass you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► even the real fire at Google glass it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► it only had google fucking glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► anyway that's my little oh you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► addition to Dan Harmon i also met a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► another dan oh yeah i saw photo that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► yeah I met Dan Benjamin yeah how'd that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► a guy you know I wasn't really familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► but you're not you're not a big podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► what a nice guy everybody said that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► was a that he was a kitten killer and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► Pollock Austin I but he's a really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► he's a clean old man I'm glad you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► meet and that seems like that seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► one of those you know Elvis and Nixon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► it was really it was really great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► know and that despite his fame tidiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► he will he will be hugged me multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► Wow and I am famously untidy so very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► very huggable though who knows what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► picked up for me it was basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► licking a hotel room remote haha tip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► hug me in the middle of the day I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► you got it doesn't really nice picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► and you get things here for your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► splint in the patient finger splint yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► that's a that that's so how was the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► asked how the how the event was I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► people this sounds like church for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► of people they love this XOXO event XOXO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► is a great event you know I go to a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► of things now that are somewhat similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► to this I guess I had an expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► that it would be then the new genre of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► the unconference yeah right it's like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► a conference right okay an unconference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► conference it's like a full of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► who make computer maths and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► ok I'll go to this shirt but when I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► there and went to the events and met the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► people that attend the conference I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► like extremely pleasantly surprised with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► food smart people it's it's an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► of a thing where where where some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► put together at an event where all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► the it felt like a room full of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► that all knowing that our live all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► around the world and all know each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► on the internet better than they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► the people that better than they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► their actual friends and people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► live in their town and this was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► this was the one of a couple times a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► year where they all got to be together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► and really be like really express in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► meatspace the family that they they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► like they are right and it was great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► know it was a place where a where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► everybody got it so i was i was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► pleased very pleased to meet all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► yeah it's a there's something special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► about that getting to be around people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► and I think it's a very intentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► conference I mean I think being somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► famously have a system for trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► to even come there you've got I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► heart of it is you've got to really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► yeah you couldn't there were it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► an amazing we dish bag free tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► yeah i think it's hard not that not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► they won't be able to do this but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► it's hard to maintain that because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► expensive to do I mean I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► avoid talking about South by Southwest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► but you know everybody's been two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► where you go and then you go for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► later and you're like wow there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► of girls with almost no clothes giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► away cups of energy drinks here who any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► and and then you know it's funny the why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► you were describing the the Dan Harmon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► affair by the way he did the co-created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► the television pilot for heat vision and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► Jack which i recommend you see if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► haven't seen it that right heat vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► and Jack I feel like this encounter with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► an arm is all the Dan Harmon I can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► I'm totally sympathetic if I go watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► one of these shows now and I'm like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► then I'm really going to be bummed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► i actually am a fan of his and yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► I'm gonna I'm gonna take a year maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► year off from Dan Harmon I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► gonna be a Harman sabbatical get home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► RRR my magical the thing that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► know I I don't render this as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► because I don't I try to avoid things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► where this is SOP for the thing I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► is the kind of energy so you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► interaction with Dan Harmon that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► awkward but what's the alternative is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► you go and you have this this discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► with somebody who's trying to suss out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► yeah and they're trying to roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► estimate how much money you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► i think is what it comes down to for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► lobbyist bags well I'm what but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► thing about the thing about Dan Harmon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► is I had just gotten off the stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► giving a presentation that i was proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► of and he was the next presenter but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► was clear as I was being introduced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► him that he had not seen my presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► and so what would have been an effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► what would have been a good introduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► was that the people say hey Dan Harmon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► this is john Roderick and Dan Harmon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► goes oh hey man i really liked your talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► that you just gave but I was I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► think throwing a little off balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► because that would have been nice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► instead he's just gave me like shark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► eyes like he had just entered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► building so then it was kind of on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► not whatever would have introduced me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► not there wouldn't have been a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► introduction then that you just saw my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► presentation right and since he and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► was looking at me definitely like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► don't have not heard your name nor have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► i seen your username on credits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► things that I like so it's on you buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► and that was yeah i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► revisit this now they're hiring an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► anymore enough set but uh I did feel uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► conference a tremendous sympathy for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► because at the XOXO conference you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► if you had attended like you are God to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► those people and everybody there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► the exception of Dan Harmon knew me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► they knew me because of this podcast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► they knew me because I was a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► proximate to Merlin Mann and Merlin Mann [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► is the center of all things up and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► and it was it was very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► because it because as I walked around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► the conference there was a lot of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► strange sort of fight club energy where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► where I was unaware that I was sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► Brad Pitt because I was just walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► around and people would I walked past a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► group of total strangers and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► good afternoon sir although they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► get on your bad side or they just wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► we know you like you know if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► clean food i suggest you not get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► clam chowder there was like a little a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► little sense of like we know to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► away but we also want to you know show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► our respect like people would give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► little salutes and stuff that's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► it was very nice but what I realized and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► someone someone pointed this out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► gave me like a great kind of insight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► into my my place in these situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► through these scenarios which was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► Merlin Mann is the god of all things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► Merlin Mann is occasionally differential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► to you John Roderick so if Merlin defers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► to you sometimes it means that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► there there's a transference where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► where you know like the king of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► kingmaker but yeah the King occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► takes your counsel and so you must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► mandarin and I you know and I that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► very insightful of this person to point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► out but also like very true and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► had been at the XOXO conference so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► is where the sympathy for you comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► if you had been there you would have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► to have stood next to an exit possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► an elevator shaft with an elaborate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► system of ropes and pulleys where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► could make your escape at any moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► because if you stopped moving for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► second you would have been mobbed my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► that fires a very nice of you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► something like but like but exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► kind of people you want super smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► people who are actually making things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► their own worlds you know not mobbed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► by dummies mobbed by people who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► know you and love you but mobbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► nonetheless and thanks for saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► that's I i think i actually uh how can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► say this without sounding like a dark i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► enjoy that I mean I really i like mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► people i like going places you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► something one of our very early episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► i laughed when he said that you were an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► introvert i laughed and laughed and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► you described an introvert deciding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► extrovert or whatever based on how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► energy you get from being around other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► people and I've realized that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► extremely extroverted up to a point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► then I kind of flip at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► and I get a little like okay I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► just go watch some cartoon network now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► you know it's burning gas right but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► know you and I share a similar branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► challenge which which on the face of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► well I hear people say this about both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► of us and I can't decide how i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► about it because on the one hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► nice on the one hand it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► pretentious but they say you are so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► oh yeah I hear that a lot said about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► all the time and I have heard people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► that about me it's like what a quick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► imagine like the jews did you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► I was gonna sit there and make jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► about your mom like what up what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► might affect my favorite thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► get a from this from people who listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► to this podcast are the ones that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► they want to they want to indicate to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► that they know that a lot of what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► talked about a lot of what i say on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► podcast isn't true or you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► it's I think it's hard sometimes the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► i would put it I think it's hard to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► what were exaggerating about and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► much right especially given that i never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► absolutely and that everything i say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► 100-percent can read write that down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► did did I uh did I pee in a Mickey's big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► mouth bottle and give it to a sailor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► a strip club girl named Lola was dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► yes could I have made that up what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► no to everything I say by definition do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► do i go out in my yard in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► the night in a bathrobe with a sword and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► yes what part of the podcast seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► untrue to you people is what I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► say to people who come up to me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► conferences and say like wink wink when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► i first started listening to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► podcast I didn't think it was AI thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► it was I thought you were pulling our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► I'm like uh-huh you're not heated this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► is not that you are you are you are big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► fan of me right now but in the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► here hit that you're saying the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► thing to me the right thing to say is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► thought that everything you said on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► podcast was true and now that I meet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► I see that it's only scratching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► yeah the the thing that I encounter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► I'm sense of really weird topic to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► about but the thing that I encountered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► that i have a funny relationship with is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► this and you must get this in spades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► because of this program is people who on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► the one hand you're already almost kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► of like friends with like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► maybe even have kind of conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► with them on twitter or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► you kind of know them but they also want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► to address you in particular i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► guessing kind of in character like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► want to tell they want to come up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► say you got there I got a small bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► packed or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► sometimes it's hard to you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► hard to to square that you know it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► that that's the kind of like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► high-five you just like yeah fraid so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► train yeah it's a beginning they get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► if they want a sentence and talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► supertrain that's a different matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► well I mean it's one of those things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► you can only really say so much about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► it's it's not going to change your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► that's that's something that you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► gonna have to deal with when it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► that's right that's right don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► you're gonna sweet-talk your way into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► this are usually talk the talk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► ongoing like thing you did all the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► the clog the clause does with the clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► yeah you know I think I just this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► probably just know it's not just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► hugely apart of having you know family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► stuff to do but i just don't get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► for things like that as much as I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► to it it's expensive and you have to fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► and I guess I've just gotten it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► that I don't like being around people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► really do it's just that if if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► paid for you know and to where I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► sort of defend it as a work thing I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► it's hard for me to make it to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► fun stuff like that because of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► time i feel kind of guilty conscience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► about being there about spending the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► money about being away from home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► things like that but uh I mean I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► really enjoy things like that I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► just like started talking Boston was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► fantastic I mean it was it was great to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► go and meet people and have two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► in the audience get a joke and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► like that it's a it's a really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► feeling and you with two whole people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► sometimes it's hard to tell you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► when you do a talk I just learned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► really lower my expectations about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► anybody in the audience will do its best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► to assume that they have no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► you do i think you know i often make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► opposite assumption which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► everyone in the room knows everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► that I've ever done and was gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► every reference that you reference that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► I mean up you know i do i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► there are probably every show idea where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► I walk out onstage and go all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► listen up dickholes a few rules before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► do another thing and one of them is shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► up i'm sure there are people in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► of the room were like who the fuck is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► you know like my assumption is when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► walk on the stage that it's you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► on the stage not you and I have to own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► the room completely to whatever to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► best of my ability to walk up on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► for those of you who don't know me I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► this guy had the most deadly line of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► let me tell you a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► myself yeah like you know my I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► approach walking onstage like high for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► those of you who don't know me I'm fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► how did you even get in here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► because I just I feel like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► your weight is already on you're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► wrong part of your foot if you're if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► walk onstage and are like I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► let me explain a little bit about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► well I I did give up i did give a talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► uh at the XOXO festival to a room full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► of people where it was I mean I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► definitely felt like thirty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► the room knew exactly who I was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► thirty percent of the room didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► any idea who I was and forty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► the room was you know honor on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► spectrum of sort of like oh yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► might think I've heard of that guy what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► are you all the way to like yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► know exactly who he is and I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► him or whatever but I can't do I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► do my style of presentation unless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► assumed that I guess I assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► everybody's gonna like me i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► see now I think that's well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► interrupt you but i think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► something most people are reluctant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► believe and to put into effect because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► it seems self-involved it's critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► it's coming like anything and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► anybody i'm with his nervous about doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► something going out getting on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► which is understandable everybody gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► the jitters but I was like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► just gotta remember a few things one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► that the people you know whether it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► by accident or on purpose have decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► to be here they've decided to not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► other stuff in order to be here they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► want to be entertained and they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► and the thing is you know they want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► entertaining if they don't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► be entertaining you can't save it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► those people off but there I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► always helps to remember that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► do have an advantage when you come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► which is that people would like to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► what you're doing and if you start from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► self-involved that's just trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► entertaining if you start by feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► like I've got to be defensive or Ivor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► I've got to like show my bona fides let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► me seemed kind of like you said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► yeah yeah and a particularly a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► conference where there are people uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► know I'll what when when when you came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► up and we did that presentation with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► silly ass friends at the Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► interactive conference when we met the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► where I'm at the digital profit that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► a silly ass presentation that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► completely derailed somewhat so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► derailed by one of our good friends at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► one of the participants went a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► bit rogue I don't want the technically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► I think I think any court maritime court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► would probably find him guilty of mutiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► yeah i think it was a mutiny and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► it was you know partly nervousness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► partly like love the microphone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► whatever but so you and I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► were on the stage I was scrambling to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► sell that the event and you were visibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► discomforted was I yeah you you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► want to help people trying to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► something useful to say yeah you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► were given you there were a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► times when i looked over at you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► looked at me and grimaced grimaced like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► you had just bitten into an onion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► always the chance that you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► punch somebody in the face and I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► want that to happen on such a good about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► ticket sales but in any case after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► after the fact i was a i was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► internet and I was scrolling through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► seattle interactive conference comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► and there was a comment from someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► was at social media a webinar expert and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► she said I went to see this group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► people talk about social networking or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► whatever the whatever the premise of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► premises stated originally was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► like hey you guys are are wackadoodle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► how are you dealing how are using social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► media to try and do your work right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► so this uh this woman like online said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► that was a total waste of time it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► just five or six guys up there who liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► to hear them the sound of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► voices and they were just wasting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► time I agree with all of that except the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► part about how is a waste of time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► ill-advisedly perhaps God commented to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► our time must be extremely valuable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► it to feel so wasted by that our of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► but but the sense that she had that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► had come to this interactive conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► to really learn to have some takeaways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► that she could take back to her social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► something I don't know I there I i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► conference that there might be people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► the room who are really looking for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► thought technologies that can help them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► be better app makers and that I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► going to be giving I was not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► um I was going to be doing infotainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► of a different sort but it turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► that the XOXO conference did not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► bunch of social media managers and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► had people who were looking for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► thought technologies of a different kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► the kind that I have I'm kind of the not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► kind of an obsessive about walking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► what mmm mean is it something you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► I feel like I feel like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► starting a sentence by saying I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► of been taking the word kind of back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► replacing it with obsessing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► there's a lot of week there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► room ok alright little clarity I says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► I'm if allowed to do things the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► like to do them i have a very specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► way I like to do them about which I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► be obsessive and we're here and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► learned I can't do that I throw it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► out and do something else so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► I'm really ended like I try to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► like like in the case of this talking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► was it was kind of a weird random manic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► talk that I did but uh but i did made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► manic because I thought that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► would work so like I would like to go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► and it's maybe it's superstition I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► think it is I like to go up and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► where I'm going to be standing before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► people get there and walk around and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► what it would be like to be watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► this from the audience i watch other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► I look at stuff like the equipment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► what I can expect out of the equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► you know in this case like I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► this is this is an amazing set up they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► just built this whole fist this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► facility at this company with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► incredible presentation system like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► amazing presentation system where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► thing around your neck and it got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► infrared signal so the camera can follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► you automatically so you can walk around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► you have to stand in one place we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► built-in mic it was new technology and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► learned like for example this is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► boring may be relevant but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► learned for example that when people saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► this on a monitor myself once again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► slides would be the main thing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► picture-in-picture like a sixth of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► oh right so the thing is it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► matter probably not like remote for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► people who wouldn't matter because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► got your presentation you're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► in a certain way and you just go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► there any power through it and I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► know I i try to like adapt what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► going to say and how i'm going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► that depending all of those dumb factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► realizing there is a pillow there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► pillar a load-bearing pillar right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► that we're like 15 people aren't going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► to be able to see me so they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► feel left out if I'm not found not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► moving around it's gonna seem kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► weird knowing that these slides so I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► to make a lot of like gametime decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► this is not like heroic but like how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► change what did you how did you how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► you alter your presentation initially I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► decided as I do about fifty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► time I initially thought I just threw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► out the slides not two slides at all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► knew that the technology was new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► although these guys were very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► competent added I still knew that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► had only been kind of testing it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► couple weeks so I went into it knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► that all a lot of things could change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► like even while i was speaking and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► makes a really big difference to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► that because and why does that matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► what matters because if you have a slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► deck that you put together where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► haven't rehearsed it a lot or let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► even have heard a lot but you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► relying on seeing the slides to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► what's next thing you're gonna say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► you're doing that awful things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► reading off of your slides when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► what the problem is like if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► somewhere don't you slide look at dope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► because everybody expects slides but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► slides can be such a distraction for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► a million different reasons so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► even if i end up doing it 95% the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► that I planned I still have the somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► obsessive walkthrough of knowing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► know of you know and the dumb stuff more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► dumb stuff like some stand-up comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► stuff like trying to learn a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► like I've said to people before like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► notice like when you arrived at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► tip this is not the talk but like notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► wasn't hard to find a parking space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► well guess what I bet you almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► everybody else in the audience also had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► did you have to go through crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► security okay you already have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► to bring into the room and everybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► that's a great jumping off point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► whatever it is you want to say because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► you want more than anything like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► matter who you are you want to establish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► what this is about and which things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► on the same page about I said you taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► two hits of mescaline probably the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► people in the audience taken to be have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► now do you definitely does identify the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► milanos I I'm it for me that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► bit of a compulsive thing where I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► it helps me walk that stage you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► walking stage helps me feel a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► more relaxed about it but you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► the pivot here like i just watched this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► documentary about Robin Williams and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► they were talking about how he did his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► stand-up i'm not about to compare myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► to Robin Williams but very inspirational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► for me as a kid I mean God I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► be rather Williams and talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► like how you know again who knows this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► could be like ebay started because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► pez dispensers not true but supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► one time he went out and the mic didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► work and that's one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► got him started on his whole like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► roaming into the audience approach to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► became a real temple of his stand-up was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► that he really blossomed like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► great improv people keep lost him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► awesome when things went tits-up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► when you thrive when things went wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► when the mic broke that's when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► learned that he could walk into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► audience and be maybe twice as funny as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► hairdresser on stage he got to interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► with people in the moment and when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► went bad it got even funnier if you met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► a drunkie bring them up on stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► direct them in a film you know so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► don't know i always feel like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► you know part of the what makes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► so anxious about going to those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► and about putting on a show like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► the feeling that like something's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► to go wrong and i feel like there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► a certain set of things that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► that will help you be at ease which will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► help with the audience at ease and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► you know you don't have to go up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► and read your resume to make people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► think that you're worth listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► well and what I have discovered in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► last year is that the thing that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► me happiest is to do no preparation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► and it makes me happy right up until 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► minutes before I go onstage and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► that last 10 minutes of before I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► what kind of person does no preparation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► and I spent 10 minutes kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► fighting with myself or the other voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► is saying this is what you do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► know preparation this is your thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► then I walk up on stage and i'm so glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► i didn't know preparation but i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► vouch for how um I cannot vouch for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► the person in the room who is the who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► the most predisposed to be suspicious of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► me or or dislike my show I can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► oh how they receive it but over time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► realized like you can't win them all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► that the best shows that i do from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► a standpoint of like where I just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► comfortable right up until doing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► then I feel of a rush of excitement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► then I feel glad after i'm done our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► shows where I i dunno i have no notes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► have no I have only with that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► thinnest kind of sense of like narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► introduced myself and and I generally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► a thing where I say I don't like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► the chairs are you know I walk up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► I'm just like I don't like where these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► chairs are right you going to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► yeah like who put this who put this vase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► here this base doesn't go here and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► that moment i'm trying to say like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► stage belongs to me now and and i'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► like now on the stage and so that so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► the light can descend write the energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► and until i walk out there I can't let I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► uncage it or whatever I can unleash a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► thing but as soon as I walk out if I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► if I if I say something like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► um you know who chose who chose these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► curtains you know some kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► like that it's it's like uncorking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► the relationship the ability to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► people in the audience like it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► there's just four of us there right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► i don't know i mean honestly in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► year I think I'll i think i'll have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► much better sense of whether that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► genuinely a thing because I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► doing these shows at the rendezvous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► i know that i have 80 people a week that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► that keep coming in some combination to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► see this but this XOXO talk was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► first really the first time that I i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► up and did oh I did like an hour-long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► more or less of strain injury law room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► full of people who for whom it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► would be a lot to assume the reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► came to the conference was to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► the internet they came to that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► because they were interested but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► not like 80 people who paid to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► yeah right i am i'm one of several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► presentations every one of which is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► of better prepared some of them totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► prepared and and even the least prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► is more structured but you know i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► think i don't think i could get up at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► seahawks game and give an hour-long talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► about my feelings and thoughts and keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► 50,000 football fans like on the edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► their seat right maybe maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► something to aspire to but uh but I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► like at least at this conference it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► knowing knowing also not to search too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► deeply on the internet but but a what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► what a a look like a quick read of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► Internet in the in the aftermath of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► there wasn't anybody on there saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► this was a total waste of my time my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► galley but I came to this thing I I am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► have I always think about like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► there's going to be a big swimming race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► and you'll see those those swimmers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► before the gun goes off they'll jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► the water you know I guess that's an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► that's an old old trick you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► talking about so you're on the blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► and you're ready and they'll do they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► intentionally do a false start for which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► you will not be penalized but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► something about being able to jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► the water and get wet before it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► officially started that helps them then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► be able to feel acclimated and point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► competitive advantage but I that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► analogy works perfectly for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► completely get why somebody why somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► who's a swimmer would want to jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► the water and get that shot off and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► go that's what it feels like to go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► the water I can start swimming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► second i go in even pro right so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► for me like having something that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► is complicated because I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► consider myself like a great consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► presenter or performer and I mean I cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► a part of me that would really like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► be a part of it is i'm just not i'm too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► lazy to get good at the conventional way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► of doing those things you think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► capable of that it's just that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► doesn't really interest me to to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► thing in the way people expect so i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► to feel I have to interject it's a lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► is this word that you use that i use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► describe ourselves and yet you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► I worked my ass off and so it's I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► feel this i use the exact same word to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► say like I am too lazy to put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► an hour-long presentation for accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► what I really feel like is that too to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► achieve an hour-long presentation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► is better than what i would do by my by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► my method i would have to work i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► have to work for 4am I totally get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► you're saying and that's actually where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► i was going to go with this first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► I got one I mean like I got done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► throwaways there's a throwaway that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► used maybe three or four times where in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► this case like I knew a lot of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► come out and I didn't have like a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► about the venue to start and so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► the dumbest joke in the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► always kills which I come out I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► like a douchebag about to give a talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► and I say it is everybody ready to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► rich and a couple people laugh and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► shut up and for some reason that set the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► tone that i want for the room I want no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► that's me jumping in the water that jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► in the water and going ok then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► this isn't gonna be what you expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► i'm not gonna this might get a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► silly because I look I feel like a dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► I know I look like a dick up here let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► yeah to do to your point I you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► so difficult to talk about lazy you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► right ladies a tough work is lazy has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► negative connotation of meaning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► you're like shiftless and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► get away with stuff by not doing work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► when I think lazy sometimes is a way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► can be a way of us saying there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► yeah and and so like on this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► sometimes-uncomfortable I John siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► Jason's know a lot of people use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► phrase we're talking about movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► we're talking about TV and it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► it's a phrase from athletics but applies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► a lot to storytelling and they'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► well you know the thing is what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► person doing here had a high degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► difficulty so it may not be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► perfectly executed thing you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► seen but it was pretty interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► because they tried something a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► bit different and sometimes you give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► people a little more credit something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► storytelling you people a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► credit for trying something that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► what the expected thing was so right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► the laziness angle to me that means I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► the the the middle level of difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► is to have a completely polished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► 100-percent bulletproof show that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► goes wrong with beautiful graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4618">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► fantastic presentation and maybe i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► tell you if we can all aspire to doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► that to having a show that when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► flawlessly you got the hundred-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► entertainment experience it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► the thing is if you don't put yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► into a position where you could fail by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► trying something different a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► excitement kind of drains out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► it's really nice to watch someone shoe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► horse who really knows how to do it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► sure hope they don't kill the fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► horse but at the same time there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► something nice about knowing there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► net here it's what makes him prob so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► interesting to me is that like on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► ok again I could never do stand-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► don't think because i don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► brain for it and I'm terrified of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► idea of having to go through a stand-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► routine the idea of improv is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► exhilarating to me because when it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► wrong is when it gets interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► that's actually kinda when I thrive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► when I say lazy i think part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► also that like I could spend a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► least interesting energy and skills on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► trying to make this exactly what sixty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► percent of the audience would expect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► then I'd be evaluated based on whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► it was as good as a Seth Godin talk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► whatever which is fine because the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► gives great talks i could see wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► become that but that's kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► everybody wants to become so maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► a little cheat a little bit but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► it's also that's that's how I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► I want to be entertaining by going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► there and going like this and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► can't even know how I tear my hair out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► for the three weeks before i do any talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► like I'm a nervous wreck i've done a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► and I still incredibly nervous about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► because I wanted to be something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► I want to be in that room I wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► something you have kind of had to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► the room for as it happened right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► watching our video later you might go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► that was okay that was kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► why do you do that but in the room I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► wanted to be as exhilarating for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► for the people who can like it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► way I want to do it and to me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► what independent entertainment is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► figuring out how to do something the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► the best way you know how to do it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4726">TS</a>]
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01:18:51 ◼ ► appreciate the level of difficulty in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► trying something they never expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4733">TS</a>]
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01:19:00 ◼ ► keep walking back to that initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► premise which is that whatever it is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► trying to do because i don't i couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4747">TS</a>]
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01:19:15 ◼ ► may be trying out 10 versions of it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► you trying to run here like and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► try and work it up so that it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4761">TS</a>]
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01:19:30 ◼ ► how to do it because what i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► great about being funny hear about jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► is like oh that just popped up like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► best jokes I've ever heard are ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► let last week when I said in a meta way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► let's move on and you thought I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► telling you that we should move on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► the show when I was actually talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► about the guy you got in a fight with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► lot to me that was a very funny moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► because it was not what we expected only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► both misunderstood each other and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► you can't plan that no and Shawn Nelson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► is amazing at that kind of humor and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► are amazing at that kind of humor where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► and that's what I like but but i keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► thinking you know I keep judging my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► attempts at doing these improvisational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► talks or extemporaneous talks rather up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4818">TS</a>]
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01:20:27 ◼ ► TEDTalk is this as good as as as is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► as good as them as Tony Robbins is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4832">TS</a>]
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01:20:41 ◼ ► idea like this is what i am doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► I'm just trying to find a place to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► where people are where people appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► the difficulty appreciate the well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► the Syracuse it says like the create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► culture degree of difficulty you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► the degree of difficulty for me getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► up and extemporize in for an hour is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4864">TS</a>]
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01:21:39 ◼ ► play the first song and I tripped over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► my amplifier and fell backwards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4903">TS</a>]
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01:22:38 ◼ ► professional show and you know it hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/4958">TS</a>]
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01:23:34 ◼ ► necessary to constantly remind myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5014">TS</a>]
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01:23:49 ◼ ► audience and will not ever produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► massive wealth and Dan Harmon is never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► gonna recognize me and I met you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► face is not going to be my calling card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5038">TS</a>]
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01:24:18 ◼ ► idea to keep in the front of your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5058">TS</a>]
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01:24:32 ◼ ► except for my friends and your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► that are doing things that are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5074">TS</a>]
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01:24:39 ◼ ► inherent paradox whenever you whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5079">TS</a>]
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01:24:55 ◼ ► paradox is it's probably never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5095">TS</a>]
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01:25:03 ◼ ► you want to get something out there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5103">TS</a>]
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01:25:18 ◼ ► is what they have to say about you which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5118">TS</a>]
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01:25:21 ◼ ► we have to accept the paradox part for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5121">TS</a>]
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01:25:33 ◼ ► start listening a lot more to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5133">TS</a>]
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01:26:10 ◼ ► to create the most lovable band in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► they've done this with pop music they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► use I've heard these things where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► take one of the elements that make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► algorithmically figure that it's draws a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► Wow almost looks like a crazy butBut I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► don't know I know it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► inspiration or something but like i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► i think it's important to remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► like you maybe i'm not saying that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► should go on like this really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► everything you've ever made but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► should remember that the people who came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► along with you so far we're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► because they found something interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► maybe they didn't love every every song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► maybe they didn't love every blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► maybe they love every video or podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► but they were there because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► something about you that they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► interesting and I think just about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► worst thing you can do is to allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► yourself to become less interesting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► the service of pleasing completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► anonymous group of people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► there's an anonymous group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► they're never gonna love you right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► like all you can do is try to become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► better version of whatever you're fucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► up self is in front of other people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► there's never been a better time to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► yeah and i think this is what we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► have done it that talk if it's hardwood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► shut up we could have said this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► oh I love that I I feel like more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► more all I'm trying to do is to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► that's a great goal and if I'm making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► him happy I feel like I'm you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► in the ballpark of what I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► doing is so fucking funny that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► should say that Amy and the other day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► was sitting on a street corner playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► threes but the diabolical and thank that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► and banana diabolical cellphone game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► that you bought for me and I'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► there playing threes and over the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► of the weekend at the XOXO festival i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► was playing three is quite a bit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► it's now all that my brain wants to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► and it's keeping you off the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► multiple people walked by and did overdo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► acceptable which is to look at someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► else's phone to see what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► and then they would tap me on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► that would be like 30 my right and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► but I'm sitting I'm playing threes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► the side like outside of a venue at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► o'clock in the morning sitting against a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► wall crouched on the sidewalk playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► threes and matter how he walks over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► he's like you're playing threes I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► yeah I didn't look up i just said yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► he's like that makes me so happy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► was like I'm doing the right thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► oh god I will cut this out after I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► it I used to be I'm not this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► ok I I used to be on a really popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► podcast and you know let's just say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► I felt like they were good weeks and bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5338">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► weeks but there's a part of me that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► like I'm not sure that I'm the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► person to do this anymore and i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► matt said he couldn't listen to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► anymore and it had a huge effect on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► well and what was his reason what he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► not like about it oh you know it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► for him I don't want to get into it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► all I'm trying to say is how fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► funny is that it was exactly matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► yeah i have been able to sit for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► and I was like okay thanks to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► unlimited that was the company later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► when I you're my canary in the coal mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► so if i try you know I don't even really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► try to describe three is to you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► I a new it's one of those things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► hallelujah chorus or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► so there's little those cards you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► around you try and make three zones of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► them and you feel like okay that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► really interesting but what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► let us review you know it took me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► took me it took me three hours like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► know you get it I get you get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► away kind of and then it takes about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► three hours to sort of go like oh i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► the I see the bigger picture and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► after about three hours it's like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► all right we're cooking here and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► know I got like AI scored eight thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► or something obviously are you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► serious you know the top scores are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► a million my friend serenity got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► think it over like 8,000 ever ever ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► and i've been playing like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► yeah right well 8,000 is hard to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► and so then I then as I got to know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► better you know by like the second day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► couldn't get anywhere close to eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► thousand because I'm overthinking it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► I was like over here I was over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► and clean up those twos and ones i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► yep and so now I've settled into a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► of a comfortable like you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► seven eight thousand ya got so fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► angry I and and how he was angry too he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► was like you've been playing this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► how long and I was like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► three days four days and he was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► fuck you but what's crazy is that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► never gotten what is the what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► next one for me I think I've I meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► like that she's like the 256 one or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► might have gotten the whatever that next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► big one is the f55 whatever i've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► that five whatever's but I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► gotten the the 1000 dry when it says oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► my so I'm cooking like it though making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► the 192 but I really feel like now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► need to understand something else that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► don't understand about it like i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► dig I had a path to dig deeper into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► theory kind of become of fan its I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► right play it a lot i really like I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► it's only been it's only been three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► four days since i put it on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► orders are like strategy soy sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► punching article surrounding right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► this but I think one of them is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► gotta work the corners work the corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► you're saying how does that help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► ok alright work the corners right i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► learned yesterday that you can like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► of preview a move own and not let go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► that's huge and watch for that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► notation that over the plus that a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► week coming where a big 1i like the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► you were right not to describe it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► discovery boom-boom to hear my sleep but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► let me help a lot of people this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► you think so yeah check the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► alright i agree to high-five who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► filled three coffee cups with pee while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► yeah i just added a mute button that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIwa4M/5568">TS</a>]