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00:24:58 ◼ ► about them in context so there's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► least some part of me that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► open to being a vessel for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1501">TS</a>]
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00:25:05 ◼ ► impact right I did particularly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1505">TS</a>]
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00:25:16 ◼ ► like me were pretty hungry to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1516">TS</a>]
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00:25:24 ◼ ► didn't even know I needed to know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1524">TS</a>]
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00:25:28 ◼ ► better position to conduct myself as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1528">TS</a>]
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00:25:35 ◼ ► feeling as it is today because it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1535">TS</a>]
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00:25:50 ◼ ► still have that same feeling of going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1550">TS</a>]
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00:25:53 ◼ ► learn what I might be wrong about I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1553">TS</a>]
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00:26:30 ◼ ► read in a lifetime but you could read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1590">TS</a>]
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00:26:37 ◼ ► ten percent get a pretty good picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► what the common understanding of truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1599">TS</a>]
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00:26:45 ◼ ► think that's completely blown out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1605">TS</a>]
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00:28:17 ◼ ► earth and watching it bounced off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► stuff uh you know different layers of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► schist or or felt bar and then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1703">TS</a>]
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00:28:32 ◼ ► radio repairman is they've just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1712">TS</a>]
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00:28:40 ◼ ► than been tuning a crystal set but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► doesn't feel like that it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► like upper campus right all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► at the University of Washington there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► are the lower campus is where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► new buildings are it's where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► excitement's happening it's where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► you know you walk into these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► buildings that have been for the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► buildings that have been rehabilitated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► and every wall has a little cluster of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► av adapters and and little hook ups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► purpose-built for what people imagine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► what people in 2009 imagined the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► classroom was going to be because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► were all going to be Power pointing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► another and it was you know books were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► gone and and science science science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► science and then the upper campus is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► getting smaller and smaller and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► this area up there where people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► still studying poetry or or like I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► can you think of a more relevant thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1789">TS</a>]
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00:29:56 ◼ ► you know our history right right but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► when I was when I was entering college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► like those were precisely the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1800">TS</a>]
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00:30:14 ◼ ► conceivable ones English philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► history art and and iÃm one of a mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► University of Washington now I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► even in 1985 I don't think that many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► them measured in the admit majored in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► the humanities but certainly a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► larger percentage than are doing it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1841">TS</a>]
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00:30:53 ◼ ► overstate this but i can already see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1853">TS</a>]
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00:30:57 ◼ ► music class there was a gymnasium as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► go to do Jim things there were all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► things that were not strictly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► academic stuff but I mean you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► music class you learn to a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► play a little bit of an instrument learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► about rhythm and learn about George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► Gershwin and all that kind of stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1870">TS</a>]
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00:31:14 ◼ ► the Copeland is not in the Common Core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► it in the way that it was when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► so on the one hand you have fewer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► fewer people who are getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► everyday and let's be honest we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► just talking about middle-class kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► there are a lot of kids that would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► learn about that stuff at home they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► not going to listen to their parents you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► know eight tracks of the planets or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► something like that and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1892">TS</a>]
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00:31:36 ◼ ► university not just the tuition but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► think about the grants think about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1898">TS</a>]
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00:31:41 ◼ ► coming from you know the National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► Endowment for the Humanities probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1903">TS</a>]
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00:31:55 ◼ ► give too much away but but the I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► had a very interesting meeting of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1918">TS</a>]
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00:32:03 ◼ ► arts commission had a joint meeting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1923">TS</a>]
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00:32:08 ◼ ► were we were pie-in-the-sky in because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENNwWUA/1928">TS</a>]
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