Roderick on the Line

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00:00:25 ◼   ► hello hi John I couldn't find my [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► microphone that's ok it's the one in [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► front of their thing going good how are [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► oh man you've been busy i have been busy [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► America has been watching you Dr Who I [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► drove and drove and drove and let's talk [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► about I know a dude drove from [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► Massachusetts to New Hampshire to [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► Vermont to New York to Pennsylvania to [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► ohio oh my god to Indiana to Illinois to [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► Missouri to kansas to Nebraska to South [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► Dakota tune Wyoming to Montana to Idaho [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► to Washington cheese and you did that [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► probably in like a fuel-efficient hybrid [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► or electric vehicle anything it's just [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► spreading greenness school of those it's [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► one of those bicycles that has a little [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► electric motor on it [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► it's free and it took me four years no I [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► average 10 miles to the gallon [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► oh I'm so glad you're 79 suburban does [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► not have comments enabled that's right [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► says 779 suburban in full-time [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► four-wheel drive the entire way I drove [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► across America in four-wheel drive [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► it's like a fast snowplow basically [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► that's exactly right that I could see [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► guys it in auto shops as I drove by [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► eyeballing it for like to fit a snowplow [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► to it to fit snowplow to the front end [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► is no plan of the back and yeah it was [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► it was you know in the middle of the [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► country of course gases like two dollars [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► and fifty cents a gallon [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► really yeah so I that there are couple [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► times i put pretty a minute [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► no I don't believe I don't believe in [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► premium gas I was like you know what [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► bring together like two hours and sixty [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► cents little america fuck it [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► yeah yeah you could take a big gulp cup [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► for gas port on the ground [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► oh my god and so I don't even know where [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► to begin [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► so this is i guess for people who've [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► been listening for a while they know [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► that this has been a girl quest for you [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► what you want for your white whale the [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► on one hand we want to find the right [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► automobile the right truck for you but [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► also you have something pretty specific [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► in mind for a while [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► yeah a specific thing and it seemed like [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► it seems like the there just weren't [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► that many of them might my perception [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► growing up in Anchorage was that there [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► were a limitless number of Suburbans [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► because at they definitely were the rich [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► kid car in Anchorage right if you were [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► like a if you were pretty well-off kid [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► your family at least had a suburban in [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► addition to three or four other cars and [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► a and a boat on an airplane but [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► Suburbans were everywhere and I just had [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► this idea that that in the seventies [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► like the suburban was the most popular [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► car maybe I thought and then with with a [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► little bit more research I realized that [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► in fact Chevy Chevy was like solidly in [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► third place of us truck sales all the [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► way through the sixties seventies and [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► eighties that's surprising [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► it is Ford has always sold the most [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► trucks and then dodge sells more trucks [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► than Chevy which was like a rock that's [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► Chevy ok that was Chevy trying to like [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► you know and i think what has happened [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► is that General Motors for those of you [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► not in the United States General Motors [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► owns chevrolet and GMC has caught up in [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► the truck races if you drive across the [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► country now you'd be astonished how many [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► dodge trucks they're ours I think dodge [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► might be number one [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► you know I see a lot of his toyota [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► tundra well but see you live on the [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► coast and this is a crucial this is this [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► is one of the cliq crucial fog so that [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► we're in living out here who the cars [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► that are on the road in san francisco in [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► seattle are not representative of the [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► cars that are on the road anywhere in [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► the middle of the country is that right [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► down there there [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► huge huge portions of the above the trip [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► that I just took where every single car [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► i could see and you know the ground is [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► flat too i can see three miles ahead and [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► three miles behind and every single one [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► is a pickup truck and they're all like [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► hyped up jacked up customized I mean the [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► they come right out of the factory now [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► pre customized right in the same way [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► that you could customize your and almost [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► puts a light of the term because when [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► you think of customizing you think of [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► taking ladies you're starting out just [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► in the sense of like ordinarily back in [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► the day you go to some kind of shop in [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► your area to get a tricked-out right you [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► go and you get things get added to it [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► but you're saying you can get like the [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► same kind of variety of tricked-out [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► stuff like right off the showroom floor [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► yeah I have to go to a specialty shop [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► for that was an innovation I think that [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► the the scion remember one that the [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► scion was released and and it was part [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► of the marketing was that you could you [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► could trick it out from the factory a [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► hundred different ways or a thousand [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► different ways and now my guess is that [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► all automakers will embrace this soon [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► but for sure if you if you want [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► it's kind it's kind of like the kind of [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► like this that that the nomenclature of [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► the espresso Wars remember one is that [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► by frank herbert dunno but human nature [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► of the espresso Wars yeah it was a it [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► was a module that I used to [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► here's what I was dyani the coffee must [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► flow but remember one that went when a [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► small suddenly became at all and you [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► know who that a medium was a grande and [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► a been so there's something else on top [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► of that get the vente vente that's right [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► and on a truck like this the smallest [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► least option truck is alright already [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► branded as like the extreme Omega you [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► know you have this four-cylinder Ford [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► f-150 [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► yeah it's just it's already got flames [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► on it from the factory and then you can [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► you can just you can decide how many [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► more [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► ridiculous like skull heads and you know [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► you can get the grill so that looks like [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► sharks teeth and just one but it's [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► because it's nominally this is the part [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► that's hilarious to me is that because [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► it's nominally for work [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► I mean if you're if you're a cowboy or a [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► construction worker you kind of have to [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► have a pickup truck because you need to [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► put a saddle you're gonna be able to put [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► a saddle and your nissan leaf you need [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► something that big but the funny part is [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► how many of these things here I'm you [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► hear that sound it sounds like like I [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► like a fedex truck here that pops lots [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► of diesel it was not a single scratch in [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► the bed right well yeah because they're [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► all they're doing is I mean yeah they're [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► just going from mr. obese children [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► soccer clothing in the back [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► well they're going from there they're [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► weird I mean you know that hardly [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► anybody really works anymore but they're [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► going to tell you want to go to costco [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► after applebees you're not still not [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► working in software necessarily but [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► they're working in some kind of you know [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► propane based economy where there though [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► they are doing work but it's but it's [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► still is like it doesn't require hauling [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► yeah and and what's what's what's [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► astonishing is that all of the like [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► rock-and-roll rebel iconography of 25 [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► years ago where the rock'n'roll rebel [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► saw himself as the opposite of some dumb [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► middle of the country hick all that [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► rock'n'roll rebel iconography is now [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► completely embraced and endorsed by [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► these young guys in the middle of the [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► country and including like extreme [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► sports talk and & hip-hop [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► well and super super hip hop so so that [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► means like there's the coastal [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► affectation that come out of hard rock [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► and maybe even a little bit of punk rock [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► right you get that kind of stuff you got [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► that the dice tattoos over the checkered [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► flags or whatever little weird i mean [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► the the weird rockabilly offshoot of [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► punk rockers yet but but still you're [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► right like spray-painted graphics and [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► and no fear are and so all the way [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► across the country every single young [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► guy is reppin this vibration right that [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► he's radical no fear [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► gar and he's in his truck communicates [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► that and and the like the driving [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► etiquette certainly communicates that a [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► lot of them are also pulling trailers [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► that have more rad four-wheel off-road [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► you know gasps burnin things and as I'm [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► driving across the country in might like [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► vintage suburban with it's like bubble [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► that basically the all the the logos are [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► in comic sans I'm thinking at first I'm [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► thinking like these guys coming up [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► behind me right there in a GMC truck i'm [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► in a GMC truck there they're gonna like [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► tip their hat they're going to recognize [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► as they blow by me because I'm con 60 [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► miles an hour and the right-hand lane [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► and they're going 90 and they're gonna [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► tip their hand as they go by one after [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► another after another no recognition of [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► me or acknowledgement of the that the [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► thing that I'm doing is cool got no [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► history [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► not at all and and everyone's gonna [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► think you're driving you're driving like [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► the what you're driving this 64 and a [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► half Mustang of their truck yeah 37 [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► Chevy of their truck it's their [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► grandpa's truck and the fact that their [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► truck is made out of plastic and that [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► most of it was probably made in korea [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► doesn't you know it doesn't matter [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► because they are because they're [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► representing a whole different whole [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► different philosophy and honestly I feel [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► like calling up my good friend Elon Musk [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► yeah and saying if you really want to [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► revolutionize this country make you know [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► electric motors have a ton of torque and [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► torque is something that you hear talked [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► about a lot in the middle of the country [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► that's why they want a diesel motor and [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► let's talk because they got a lot of [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► torque [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► that's right [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► and nothing's got more torque than an [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► electric motor and if somebody just [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► makes a ridiculously torquay truck and [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► then they build an advertising campaign [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► around it [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► featuring like Travis Tritt and Pauly [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► Shore and Peter tank and their era [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► I don't know if you can get Peter Tork [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► but it at there in the truck and a bunch [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► of guys in there dodge trucks are like [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► get a mud bog and then here you come in [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► your Tesla truck and you just you just [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► school these guys in the mud bogger like [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► oh yeah you think you've got pulling [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► power [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► wha and you gotta make it so that it [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► makes some blast sound room they do that [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► now the ad sounds like aw i heard they [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► heard on NPR about how they add like [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► extra motor sound coming through the [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► speakers [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► ya-ya-ya-ya-ya motor sounds you put up [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► you put a huge subwoofer in the back [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► that's just making muffler silencer pump [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► and you would you transform the country [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► because because honestly like the [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► they're not they're not buying these [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► things really because USA evens because [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► i have to do is like open the glove box [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► and it says Made in China in there there [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► if it's just a kind of like it's it's [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► peacocking you know it's a display of of [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► no compromise attitude and me nothing [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► says no compromise like like Elon Musk [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► your that's right there's no reason you [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► get some it's a nice green truck nuts on [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► there now you're absolutely right i [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► guess i think about now because you know [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► um let's make timely but we're in the [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► midst of a baseball tournament here you [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► know everybody's wearing their their [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► gear for the local sports team [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► you know I was in I was in the town of [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► the opposing sports sports team led a [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► BBQ i did it i drove past the sports [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► stadium where the where the baseball [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► tournament was being played the [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► royalties and then I had the most of [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► them had the most American experience in [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► my life i was driving out of Kansas City [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► in the middle of the night [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► trying to get the baseball game on my am [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► radio alcohol and hannah has taco radio [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► and I and I tuned in a little bit want [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► father's a pitch and it's a out to [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► centerfield and it's all dark there's [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► nobody else on the road and i'm driving [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► on these little roads outside of Kansas [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► City listen to the world series on the [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► radio and I was just like god damn it [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► yeah you're living the dream there I was [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► just remember the first having this [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► thought when I was in college for [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► started walking to the college bookstore [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► and even at our tiny little school you [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► could get you know hats shirts bags with [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► the name of the college on it and [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► remember even thinking Nandu college [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► yeah they can even more now they're like [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► to imagine that there's a factory that [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► just makes giant stuff you mentioned [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► that there's a factory just because of [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► the allegiance and the importance of [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► supporting a local team like there's [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► someplace like probably went north [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► carolina right there's going to be some [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► place where old ladies who love the [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► Giants for making Giants have they don't [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► fucking care [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► I like somebody somebody in in Asia and [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► East Asia is making like 11 cents a day [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► to stitch those those official hats and [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► jerseys and that they have absolutely no [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► allegiance they probably can't read the [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► letters on them but the same is true [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► with the trucks were like there's this [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► whole mythology nothing nothing nothing [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► against the great car makers of America [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► or the people who buy them but you know [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► it is pretty is pretty hilarious this [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► been going on for like 25 years now but [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► you're right it's completely cosmetic in [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► some ways it's like it's a car costume [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► yeah but it but it i mean what i had a [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► lot of time to think it's not close the [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► country with it was just an AM radio [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► with just the same radio for company in [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► my CB radio which I you know the antenna [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► fell off the roof so I wasn't really [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► able to get that are joking you really [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► had a CD for a while i was still do [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► papacy ba just I just need to get the [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► right antenna but you know the the [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► middle of the country is really [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► different and it's also a really nice [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► place full of really nice people you and [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► I have had this conversation a million [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► times and anybody that's traveled has [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► and a lot of the people i met on this [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► trip have never seen the ocean right so [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► you know in a way there were there were [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► moments where i had a kind of feeling of [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► like okay [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► we're talking right now about how the [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► Jews control the media I i'm not [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► mistaking like what the subtext of this [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► conversation is but I'm the only person [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► in this conversation that's ever seen [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► Neil the ocean so like you guys seem to [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► all feel like you've got the truth of [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► this story but but what you're missing [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► is knowledge like you don't you may he [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► in fact you may have the truth but you [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► don't have any knowledge that's a really [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► nice distinction he should know and I i [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► do not claim to have the truth at all [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► but i do have knowledge and it was a bit [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► that they were you know a lot of [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► experiences i had a lot of like side of [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► the road conversations where I where I [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► felt like I really do understand the [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► center of the country a little bit and I [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► like it [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► you know I like it here it it's not you [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► know it's not like primitive by contrast [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► but it's very different the values are [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► different the trajectory is different [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► they are not headed the same place that [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► the people on the coasts I can I can [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► hazard a couple pretty good guesses why [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► that is why you feel that way and just [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► giving some conversations we've had in [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► the last month or two [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► it's in you like you say it's not like [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► it's primitive but it is compared to [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► some things relatively uncomplicated you [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► know it's really really simple even but [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► I mean like there's there's a version of [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► how this goes and they're not staying up [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► all night worrying about it it it really [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► feels like it feels like like a [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► trajectory you know that that people on [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► the west coast are churning ID is faster [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► and there is there are there are [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► fashionable ideas people on the west and [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► east coast people out in the out in the [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► world people in Paris too [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► probably an Auckland New Zealand [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► are churning ideas maybe not often but [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► they're turning ideas and they're [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► they're going through them faster and [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► faster right you get it you get it as an [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► idea that flashes around everybody's [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► talking about it and and if you're [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► living in kansas city but your butt your [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► primary life is on the internet you [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► you're also part of this conversation [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► right but if you're not if you're not [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► part of it you're not eat you're not [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► aware of these like these these intense [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► passions of thought that seemed to be [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► leading us somewhere right where where [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► where the product you and I and our [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► listeners over the course of the last [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► three years where the product of 500 [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► 5000 idea storms that that we can maybe [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► get ourselves or maybe it's true that [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► those ideas storms are building [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► something there there there we are [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► further along and if you were living [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► somewhere where you were none of those [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► ideas storms that happened the tempo of [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► thought is slower you know and and your [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► thought evolution is slower and you end [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► up on a different Road to some you know [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► you're headed [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► what you're on the road that you [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► perceive to be the road and out here on [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► the coasts where like where where we [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► have this sort of fracturing all the [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► time of of what we think even the road [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► is who [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► so i did not i didn't come i didn't come [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► over i didn't come through the country [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► feeling like more hopeful that we were [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► going to achieve a national consensus at [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► any time [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► and yet I had that experience that you [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► can't help but having when you're when [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► you're in the middle of the country [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► which is like everybody here is great [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► it's really nice and this is like and [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► everyone has good will you know there [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► are like very liberal people out here [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► there are people with very progressive [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► ideas but in general it feels like that [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► part of the country is starting to [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► really want different things [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► well you know I got a couple thoughts [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► are quickly on this one is that term i [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► learned from your freshman there's you [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► think about like depending on where you [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► live where the sources of when you think [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► about all these ideas being hustled in [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► one place or another or as you like to [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► say like trying on new ideas like where [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► are the sources of friction in those [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► areas and I think that's what one key [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► difference is you know whatever I mean [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► really simple over simplified way to [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► look at whatever your culture is [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► whatever whatever gets approved or [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► talked about mostly favorably a lot [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► tends to be the thing most people kind [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► of agree with I think generally and you [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► know you can you can have your own sort [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► of like disagreements about those things [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► maybe you want to get organic analyst [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► out of regular kale or whatever but i [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► think that we're your source efficient [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► exist are really interesting one of the [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► things that you mostly agree with other [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► people on and i think that's that's 11 [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► way in which that's different is that [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► like for medium and a lot of my friends [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► and like coastal dummies [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► it's like as soon as I have an idea that [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► feels to fixed in my mind that's when I [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► get nervous [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► yeah that's what I feel like I'm [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► probably full of shit is what i get when [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► i get to positive about anything and [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► everybody is agreeing with me like [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► that's that's when I start to think whoa [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► that this is an idea that needs to be [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► reexamined mhm but the other thing is [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► you so much for this makes any sense but [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► you know in I haven't traveled a great [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► deal and most of traveling a have done [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► has been the US but I'm starting to feel [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► like there's you've got you'll see you [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► got your kids and we're just completely [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► right off anybody who's under like 12 [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► but from like the age of 12 to like 27 [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► you got what i would call like young [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► people and no matter where you go in [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► America they're fucking insane [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► there are completely crazy but they're [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► kind of crazy in somewhat similar ways [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► they take a lot of risks they are very [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► skeptical of authority etcetera etcetera [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► at the other end you got people at my [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► age and older [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► who were things slow down a little bit [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► you become a little bit more forgiving [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► and humane a lot of the time but i think [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► that I wonder if the biggest differences [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► in America are in like the 33 year old [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► male across America you know what I mean [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► you think about how different what you [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► want to rap to the world is when you're [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► still like you're just enough out of the [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► oven that you've got a little bit of a [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► crust on you but like you still you [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► still don't really have any fucking idea [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► what's going on when you're in like your [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► late twenties early thirties you don't [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► mean like you take like the guy who [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► thinks he's the guy rapping the coolest [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► thing in Kansas City versus berkeley vs [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► are watching leno Seattle vs. New [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► Hampshire idea [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► did you notice bigger that's that's to [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► me like where I feel like I see [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► differences [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► well I'm part of it is that i'm looking [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► at 33 year old guys right that they are [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► they are peacocking the hardest they're [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► the ones that are the most expressive [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► about about the the idea is that they're [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► rapin they maybe got a little bit more [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► money to spend on demonstrating that [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► through peacocking well and yeah and i [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► think it [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► thirty-three-year-old is the peak but I [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► mean it starts at that starts at 22 [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► I mean what I had several tweet ups [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► across the country and I could walk into [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► a bar and pick out the people that were [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► there to see me from across the roads [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► are looking at the phone and crying well [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► and it's and it's not that it's not [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► because they were wearing beards because [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► everybody's wearing beards and it's not [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► because they're wearing a warby parker [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► glasses because that you see enough of [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► that but there's just enough there's a [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► subtle kind of combination of you know [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► the-the-the I ironic negro league [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► baseball shirt or the you know the but [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► just the cut of your jib if you can see [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► it from across the room [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► don't you mean yeah and for so for sure [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► i'm i'm i'm conscious of that difference [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► between 33 roles because i'm looking for [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► but also i do feel like those are the [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► those are the places where the idea [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► fashions lodge themselves [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► those are the those are the progenitors [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► of of the of the cause of the day you [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► know and in Kansas City you know like [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► for instance suspicions about the [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► government you know when I was a young [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► guy when you were a young guy the [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► difference between liberal and [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► conservative was that conservative [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► people were generally pro-government and [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► liberal people were generally suspicious [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► of government because government was the [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► cops and government was ronald reagan [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► and government was the man and left of [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► the entire culture that allowed richard [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► nixon to happen [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► yeah and right and left ism was the [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► counterculture that was that was the [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► other word name we still a narrative [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► into like the early nineties i think [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► yeah right right although all the way [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► through the the grunge years the left [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► and the counterculture were synonymous [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► and the right was was synonymous with [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► like the small town people and the [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► developer church values and so forth and [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► so on whether they were connected to the [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► government and the status quo and now [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► we're living in a world where all of the [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► the the the people in the prime of their [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► life in the middle of the country if [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► they proceed if they if they think of [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► themselves as conservative they think of [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► themselves as opposed to the government [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► which they perceive to be a product of [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► all these years of political correctness [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► all these years of university people and [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► the liberal media and Cena super I I get [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► the feeling smug intervention like yeah [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► you know better than everybody and [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► enforcing that down threats exactly i [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► mean it started when when somebody came [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► to their dads club and said you have to [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► start letting women into the club it [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► can't just be men only anymore and they [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► were like what the fuck is the [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► government doing telling me [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► blankety-blank [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► and that kind of you know the liberalism [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that that in a way did have a up I grew [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► a tremendous power in American [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► government at the bureaucratic level you [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► know we talk it's it's funny how the [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► demographic shake-up when you just have [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► slightly fewer people who are [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► systematically kept from making money [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► and having power when you change that [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► shit before formally just a little bit's [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► this disruptive to everybody but the but [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► the liberal project was really to [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► colonize the bureaucracy of the [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► government you know in a in a way it [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► doesn't matter who the president is and [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► when at a national level we talked about [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► like oh it's you know the george bush's [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► in the business is in Iraq and wearing a [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► wearing a police state but at the [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► department of health and human services [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► they are still enacting a generally [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► liberal project you know and and we have [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► these yea yea even setting aside what [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► the actual goals or implementation is [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► the whole idea of it is essentially a [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► more liberal idea right [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► yeah so as long as there's public [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► housing as long as there's public [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► assistance as long as their social [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► security as long as there's food stamps [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► as long as there is and not just that [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► stuff but you know every time a [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► government government regulator comes [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► and tells you you have to clean the [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► asbestos out here furnace flue you know [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► it is in general a kind of liberalism in [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► action and it doesn't matter who the [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► commander-in-chief is and the middle of [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► the country perceives that and perceives [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► the m88 because they perceive it at a at [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► a street level you know they see those [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► changes enacted and they feel that [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► they've grown this estrangement to the [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► government and they state so they've [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► adopted all this [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► all this froth of like that that sounds [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► anarchist almost you know they are they [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► see themselves as a counterculture to [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► the to the forward motion the inevitable [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► forward motion of this liberal [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► conversion and that the only problem is [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► that the but the liberals on the Left [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► Coast also still see themselves as a [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► counterculture so everybody in the [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► fucking country now sees themselves as a [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► goddamn counter culture and the culture [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► that we perceive ourselves to be at war [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► with you know i mean if you if you went [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► down and talked to people at el centro [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► del rosa and say like do you feel like [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► the government is on your side you know [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► they're going to say no are you kidding [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► me we're living in a white male [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► supremacist police state where a you [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► know which is still have still has like [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► systemic discrimination and then you go [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► out to the country and you get some some [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► kid off of the back of his truck [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► do you feel like the government's on [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► your side he's like what are you kidding [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► me like nobody feels like the government [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► represents them and it's fucking bizarre [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► actually it's about ethics in video game [TS]

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00:30:41 ◼   ► of Roderick on the line we could not do [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► it without not all been nothing all [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► anything and so you got a 78 suburban [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► recovered I I don't give a new half the [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► states that you mentioned that's that's [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► it doesn't asinine number of states and [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► you covered it all in like five days [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► no well I mean you know I stayed in ohio [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► for 45 days you see family saw some [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► family I was a you know I have a have a [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► nephew who's a firefighter and we were [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► there at his fire station in ashland [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► oregon and he was showing us around and [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► then just like on remember the [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► television show emergency room getting [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► desoto again and just that maybe I i [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► think i remember can make sure that [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► sound [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► we're all around for my regular driving [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► around feeling ok it's a little older I [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► get a total boner from that sound I [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► should make that my ring town and then [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► and my nephew who was who is standing [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► right in front of me a with kids all [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► around him talking about the pumper [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► truck [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► his eyes went black like a shark and all [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► of a sudden he did not see us [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► no one saw us and all that was [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► communicated to us was you know my body [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► language is like a public-safety sleeper [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► settle [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► yeah right it was like get the fuck out [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► of the way do you hear the sound and we [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► all scrambled and they were in that [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► truck and a hole and ass out the door [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► with the siren on in sweats appear to be [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► seconds and I I you know I've known [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► firefighters have a good friend who's a [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► paramedic [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► I think about firefighters all the time [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► because they go by on the road but to be [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► in the fire station in this state of [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► like basically padding around in your [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► underwear having a day but Posada and [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► then just checking on the chili yeah I [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► want your story set bail and then like [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► the leap into action and and as they [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► were going out the door I was conscious [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► of the fact that they have no idea what [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► they're about to go see and it could be [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► a cat stuck in a tree or it could be a [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► Lincoln Continental on fire with six [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► people in it and can imagine that I [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► cannot and I can I can't imagine the not [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► knowing of that and you know and [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► probably it is only in continental like [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► full of people often enough that you [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► don't just kind of slacking off you [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► gotta treat each one like it's 911 [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► yeah and it's not I mean and and I think [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► it's statistically at least for these [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► guys out in central Ohio it's not it's [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► not a big car wreck for people that [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► often it's not a house fire that often [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► ninety-eight percent of the time it's [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► somebody who who finally ate the last [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► cheeto that put them over 750 pounds and [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► they have to go get the winch to get [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► them out of their house later that they [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► have a special truck for that by the way [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► they have a special truck in Ohio to get [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► people out of their houses they can't go [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► off the doorknob I don't crap out of the [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► second store I don't want to talk about [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► that on air but I really but when here i [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► want to hear about the obesity winch [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► I mean it was it was it serious like [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► that that because my you know my visit [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► the type of question my mom asks and she [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► was there and she was like what do you [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► do about the people that are too they're [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► too big to get out of bed and he kind of [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► like gave a little head nod and he [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► walked us around to the back of the fire [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► station to obama we write him a check it [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► kid [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► you can't fit them in a normal an [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► ambulance and here's the ambulance that [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► we use a little because they're like wow [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► there it is but [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► but the idea the idea that that through [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► the entire career of a fireman that they [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► are sitting there in this state of like [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► like hey nothing happened a minute ago [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► nothing's happened in this minute I'm [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► stirring the chili i'm watching my [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► stories [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► yep and then that Bell and then it's [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► like oh maybe I'm gonna go see the worst [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► thing I've ever seen in my life right [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► now and I have to know how to I have to [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► i'm the only one on the scene that's [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► gonna be able to fix it if anybody can [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► it's things like superhuman right and it [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► had to be able to have the Chilean [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► stories moments and in being your repose [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► and not be freaking out all the time or [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► you know having you know I'm better [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► cardiac around yeah and the other thing [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► is they're on duty 24 hours so it's just [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► like all right for the next 24 hours [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► you're going to be you're going to be [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► oscillating between these two poles [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► total calm and like manic like [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► borderline I mean you have to you have [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► to compress your emotions so hard and [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► then [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► oh then you're off work and you're just [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► like a normal kind of family guy [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► bumbling around the house for a few days [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► and then you're back in this situation [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► it just it its extraordinary one 24-hour [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► I mean I don't understand like my wife [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► works with his work with doctors for [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► years I've never understood that [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► why the long stretches for work that [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► involves so much careful detail and [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► presence of mind while i think that is [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► 24 hours [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► I don't understand it either because it [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► just seems so let me get this reason I [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► don't on the corner office [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► I just that makes zero sense to me I [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► don't think I half understand the hazing [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► of needing to get people's head around [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► the idea that this is going to be [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► intense experience you're not allowed to [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► complain i understand six weeks of that [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► I don't understand years and years of [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► systematically putting people in [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► conditions that have been scientifically [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► shown to make you an efficient and slack [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► key i don't know if you've ever had the [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► experience of being worked on by an [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► emergency room doctor who's been on [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► shift 423 I'm gonna happen to saying [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► that nearly as often as you but I have [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► and that bleary-eyed a you know the [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► bleary-eyed hyper hyper competence of [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► somebody who's been has been up that [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► long [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► is like I mean in a way here they're [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► injured and you feel like hey we're in [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► the same boat a little bit like we're [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► together you and I are are in an [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► offworld right now you're tripping balls [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► and I'm tripping balls [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► I mean it may be trippin different balls [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► it it may be that if if you only worked [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► an eight hour shift in the fire station [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► you'd have guys that work for eight [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► hours and nothing ever happened and then [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► you guys we're all fell on them and so [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► thank you i get 12 hours i get 12 hours [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► I don't get 24 hours [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► yeah i don't know i mean they have babe [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► they have Murphy beds at the fire [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► station that they pull down and go to [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► sleep on their Murphy beds to think [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► about submarines [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► not long ago I think it might have been [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► some maybe that Steven Johnson [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► documentary thing but it is about how [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► likely they set their own time on [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► submarines to be what is it that [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► basically they monkey with the clocks so [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► that your you have like this totally [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► artificial 36 hour shifts in a day so [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► like you have six hours of on-duty six [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► hours of light duty and like six hours [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► of sleep and they delayed it sounds [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► completely crazy cuz you know you can [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► just basically create whatever [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► environment you want your dick there's [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► no light there's that can make it [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► whatever you want it to be but it just [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► sounds like a recipe for insanity of me [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► I like sleeping so much [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► yeah i feel i mean as I was as i was [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► driving across the country there was a [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► moment where the light every day there's [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► there's perfect like late afternoon [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► light and I said to myself out loud why [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► why does the Sun have to move smoothly [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► across the sky [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► why can't it just be four hours of early [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► morning light for hours of one in the [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► afternoon four hours of five in the [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► afternoon four hours of eight o'clock at [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► night you know like they're these [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► perfect moments of of the day and night [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► you'd be squelch it to kind of attenuate [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► on the light that you like [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► yeah and then at and then it could just [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► be dark 48 hours when everybody went to [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► sleep if I were george RR martin [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► I wouldn't have done this whole like a [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► winter comes every once in a while who [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► knows never not yet and I would have [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► done this other thing where the Sun kind [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► of ticks across the sky like a little [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► like an old knob like that like the one [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► really unless like the second hand on a [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► clock and really more like the hour hand [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► click yeah [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► click click click and now the different [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► times a day [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► Zoop I mean it would require physics to [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► be different but I'm gonna be pretty [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► always instead we can still have what [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► amounts to a 24 what we now call a [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► 24-hour day would be so much more [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► convenient if we only had six actual [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► hours that we measured though you say [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► somebody else see it too and you're [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► roughly there at you know 2 at new to [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► let me thanks that work i can totally [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► make that work I don't do this money [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► position in my day haha i don't need 15 [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► minute increments in my day [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► um let me ask you this yeah I I don't [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► startle thing here but i I've been [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► thinking about this you're driving down [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► the road in let's say you haven't [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► recently been in a fire station let's [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► see it's just a normal day you hear [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► sirens coming from behind you do you [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► pull over [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► do I get off the road to let the car go [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► by yeah that look no yeah okay I do too [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► I do too i think it's the law to the [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► event I i would like to think that [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► that's the law when I was a child when I [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► was a child there was never any question [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► about it every single person on the red [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► fucking pulled over and let me let the [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► let the ambulance or the fire truck or [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► whatever go by now today it's they're [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► more like is it cool if I get by like I [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► can't believe how many people don't pull [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► over anymore for like a fucking [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► ambulance [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► did you notice this I mean I really [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► notices or even drive that much and i [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► noticed and I'm like what is wrong with [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► you people a lot of just sit they just [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► stopped their car you know like that's [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► gonna help know you have to get out of [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► the way if the move and let this thing [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► get by [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► are you with me on this yeah well I'd I [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► I see it I see that I declining [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► standards everywhere Merlin only so this [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► is my thread I'm trying to bring up here [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► yeah cuz I thought about this i thought [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► about this on your head [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► well yeah people are not are not obeying [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► the [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► the mores it might be time to revisit a [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► little bit of keep moving and get out of [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► the way but here's my thought on this i [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► was thinking this the other day because [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► that happened and i was i'm always [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► amazed by how many people don't and then [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► last night I was watching the baseball [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► game is great game and at the end of the [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► game they're interviewing this picture [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► this 25 year old kid who's this amazing [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► pitcher for the giants and while they're [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► on the the camera comes on the mic goes [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► on you can hear the audio now inside the [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► stadium of them interviewing him and [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► like only like a couple words get out of [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► the interviewers mouth before he turns [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► and he tips his cap and he says to the [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► audience thank you everybody thank you [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► it's like fucking a yes it was so great [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► to get like three more times and it [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► wasn't like you look at me you know i'm [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► madison just Baumgardner or whatever [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► he's doing what people used to do which [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► is you tip your fucking cap to the [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► stadium you know they can thank you [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► it's got a little class but when you go [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► off when you go off when you go off the [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► field you tip your cap you the people [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► applaud you look up and you graciously [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► like a gentleman [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► you fucking tip your cap and you say [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► thank you well don't get me started on [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► tip your cap who I mean you know the [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► range on to do I actually want to get [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► you started i'm looking for a new canon [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► here i'm looking for a new cannon with 2 [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► n's not three but there were we can we [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► can heal the divides between all these [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► different vehicles and and what they're [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► wrapping and I want to look I don't talk [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► about money i don't want to talk about [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► politics [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► I want to talk about what's the stuff [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► that just we all need to get on the same [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► page with and I think I think moving [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► over for the ambulance and tip your cap [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► is a great place to start [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► well the place to start is take your [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► goddamn hat off when you walk inside [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► oh please give today you can wear it's [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► not kids it's guys my age like you know [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► why but they're the only ones that are [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► wearing stupid hats [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► what's there but also that the proxy [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► hater ball balls actually but I don't [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► get I don't give a shit if you're always [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► been somebody they think it's like [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► asking somebody take a prosthetic legs [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► like I'm not taking this off the thing [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► is that in nineteen eighty being bald [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► was I was difficult i admit that i [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► really like while Shawn it was a general [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► question [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► yeah the standard was uh that you were a [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► member of the that you were the star of [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► the Bee Gees and not his fault brother [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► everybody wanted a big hair and if you [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► didn't have a big hair [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► yeah you had Wallace Shawn little Tufts [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► on the side and it was embarrassing but [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► somewhere along the line in the nineteen [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► nineties we invented the technology of [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► shaving your head and now Paul guys look [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► amazing ball guys look tough and cool [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► and only you bald guy even know if [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► you're bald and yours how her through [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► being bald [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► yeah the pearl you're the ball tough guy [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► who's doesn't take any shit off anybody [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► bald bald bald is beautiful [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► so your hat is no longer like bullshit [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► you're had your hat is a hat and if you [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► want to bring hats back [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► you also have to bring the whole retinue [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► of hat etiquette [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► the first and easiest thing the first [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► and easiest part of which is they take [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► it off when you come inside and I [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► recognize that once you're inside and [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► you've taken your hat off now you have [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► the awkward problem of carrying your hat [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► around where it's much easier to carry [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► your hat on your head where it was [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► before but wearing a hat is not easy it [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► should it is not a simple thing that [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► interests with a certain [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► responsibilities does it's like fucking [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► carrying a sword around if you don't get [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► to carry it on an airplane and you don't [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► get to where you're freaking hat [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► wherever you got them 100 you don't have [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► to check it but you should put in the [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► overhead bin if the doors of the [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► building that you're walking into our [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► barn doors you can keep your hat on [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► yeah it's this little nuance because i [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► think i think definitely that no [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► question if you're sitting one drives me [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► crazy when people sit down to eat dinner [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► and they're wearing a hat I don't know [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► why but that really bothers me [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► I don't know why you don't know why that [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► bothers you or because it is affront to [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► humanity [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► yes yes take your goddamn head off and [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► take your hat off when they play the [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► national and all that's number three [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► it's right right here on the list number [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► three [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► first of all get up and fucking sing the [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► national anthem I don't care if you're a [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► patriot or not just get up and sing the [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► damn song [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► put your hand over your heart will take [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► your hat off and put it over your heart [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► these are just simple little things if [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► these this is exactly what I'm looking [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► for John is more small ships see I feel [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► like there's some gray areas i think if [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► you're an elevator you take off your hat [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► if you're in somebody's personal [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► residence you take your head if you're [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► in the lobby of a hotel i would say [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► probably take off your hat lobby of a [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► hotel if you're wearing your own [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► the code you're carrying your suitcases [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► put in his papers and newspaper under [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► your arms around I feel like keep your [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► head on feel like a lobby of the hotel [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► you're still in a transition between [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► here and there yes but once you get on [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► that elevator schedule is a lady take [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► out every goddamn hat off and and like [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► rejoice in it [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► rejoice in you you are already rejoicing [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► in what you perceived to be e and this [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► includes baseball hats I'm not just [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► reminisce dumping on people in fedoras [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► like you wear your wear your hat it Matt [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► it means something to you ride it [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► matters there's something about having [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► it on that that leg but it's not just [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► you know even if it has become an [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► absent-minded thing at a certain point [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► the Hat you recognize like this hat is [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► going to be part of my identity this hat [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► is part of my thing like rejoice in in [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► all of the little dams that wearing a [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► hat allows you to engage in that was a [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► POC word sentence no I was with you [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► forever awkward step I remember I I know [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► what I'm gonna change my game because I [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► where I wear like a like a car hard hat [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► like a lot of the time because i want to [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► keep my head warm to what you you should [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► switch over to fill some help but yeah i [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► agree okay you know i also got your hair [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► cut so it's gonna be easier for me to [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► take off a hat without having had head [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► now but when i was walking across Europe [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► up very shortly after I started really [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► walking across the flat planes which up [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► believing around starts all the way up [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► in Holland I was like oh my god the Sun [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► is beating down on me all day long and [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► i'm not gonna be able to survive this [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► this is like it's it's it's brutalizing [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► me and I stayed the night in a little [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► farmhouse and in the morning the the a [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► wife of the house said you need a hat [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► and I was like I was just thinking that [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► I do need a hat and she reached up on a [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► peg and she took down this straw farmers [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► had and she said here you can have this [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► and i was like i can have this year [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► amazing strong farmers and she was like [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► I go you know you you need it more than [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► we do and I wore this had all the way [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► across Europe and over [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► the over the weeks i realized that out [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► in the country all these little hat [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► gestures still convey a ton of [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► information who you put your finger up [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► to it to you know take a little like a [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► little mini salute [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► yeah one finger up to the brim to salute [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► a guy that's on a tractor you a you know [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► you grab the brim and pull it down [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► slightly to salute somebody who's [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► driving by in a car you reach up and [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► lifted off your head just slightly and [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► put it back down if you pass a woman [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► who's walking on the road you take it [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► off when you're asking a question never [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► task never ask someone a question [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► without taking your hat off because the [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► gesture of taking your hat off says I i [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► beseech you just heard someone it's um [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► it's differential that's right [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► hello I need information i am i am here [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► at your at your service and there are so [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► many times in a day when you can [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► communicate i am at your service to [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► someone simply by taking your head off [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► and in a lot of cases i had a language [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► barrier but i was able to surmount the [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► language barrier because I learned that [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► the sign language of the Hat and you eat [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► eat [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► you can take it off you can take it and [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► and do a couple of little hat tricks [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► flip it around or whatever to impress a [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► little kid like but people understand [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► that you are a human being if they see [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► you off your hat or if they see you [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► gesture with your hat they recognize [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► that across cultures and I think across [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► time that is the sign that like I am a [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► civilized person and i'm here i'm happy [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► i'm passing through your your time in [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► place [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► mhm but I'm not a monster i'm not [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► someone who's hiding under this hat like [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► the head comes off when it's time to [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► interact and kind of puts me in mind of [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► sunglasses a little bit because I think [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► some of the same people who never take [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► your hat off don't like to the sunglass [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► is off i think it's because there's [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► they're basically building up a little [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► personal wall [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► yeah and say they don't want to take the [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► sunglasses up picking up your inside and [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► you're wearing sunglasses like you [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► better be Jackie Gleason here's a four [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► people one who people who want a little [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► wall around them here is a great [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► solution stay in the bathroom at your [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► house there's for your way there had all [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► you what you can turn the sink on and [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► get water you can poop and pee it goes [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► away and don't fucking come out and deal [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► with the rest of us like you don't get [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► to come out this is the thing that I get [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► that that ICS trending toward and this [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► is going into the shoes here aren't we [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► this is more true on the coast when it [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► is in the middle of America for sure is [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► that just taking shoes off on a plane [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► that were headed [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► well with out too but but but you know [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► I'm talking now to the to the early [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► adopters the technologists like your [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► google glass also are you are not [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► entitled to them you know you take them [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► off as it not not because of anything [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► not because anything you just take them [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► off out of just a good old-fashioned [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► respect you you shouldn't need a reason [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► you don't need a reason and and to sit [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► and give me a list of 25 reasons why you [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► need them on it there those are 25 those [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► are 25 bullet points about what a [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► bullshitter you are you know take that [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► shit off and take your headphones off [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► and take and stop you know like when [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► you're interacting with people when you [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► walk into a room for the first time when [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► you meet somebody for the first time [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► when you're sharing a public conveyance [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► with somebody be conscious of the fact [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► that your little bubble is not you know [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► it your little bubble is rude basically [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► and and you should every time you walk [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► out of the house in your little bubble [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► you should be conscious of the fact that [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► it is rude and the rest of us are [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► allowing for it because maybe you're out [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► for a jog or maybe you're working on a [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► big presentation you know like we allow [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► you to be in your bubble to a certain [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► extent who but your responsibility is to [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► recognize that that is not your [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► entitlement all the time and you don't [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► get to be in a bubble out [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► in our world sharing our fucking world [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► with us and also be in your bubble [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► it's like not I i went into a cafe today [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► and there was a guy there my age in [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► Moscow it's like we're in a where [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► top-to-bottom hipster clothes I was like [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► I you know I want I saw him through the [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► glass and I was like hey there's a guy [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► that I might be able to have an [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► interesting conversation about Hitler [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► with and I walk in and then all of a [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► sudden he's talking into his phone he's [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► the loudest thing in the room there's 40 [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► people in this cafe and he's saying well [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► I told him that we wouldn't be able to [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► you know get the the the Johnson [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► contracts until we had the you know the [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► the pipefitters union and I'm just like [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► are you kidding me [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► I I like your glasses i go as far as to [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► like your glasses and your this is how [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► you repay me [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► you know this is an old well this is [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► this is etiquette from another age mean [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► about 20 years ago but if i get a phone [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► call I still walk outside i leave the [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► table if I have to take him lightly on [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► the table usually go outside to talk you [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► certainly don't stand in line in a place [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► and then talk to a spa one who is [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► serving you while you're talking into a [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► phone like I am I should carry you know [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► that you know when you go to truck stops [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► and they have those little baseball bats [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► to to check tire pressure on big rigs [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► yes there and all the truck stops and [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► across America that sir that is your [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► actual truckers is an etiquette baton [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► for you you should just carry the one of [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► these little tire thumpers just like the [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► phone out of there and nobody either not [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► the fun out of their hands or just [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► walking on the side of the knee [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► Wow and then oh shit I'm next in line [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► the guys down there yelling into his [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► phone call the police [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► you know you love your home your are [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► chrome drawings on like society falling [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► apart i I've seen this one with the [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► evolution of the headphones where you [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► know for a long time you know it was it [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► was kind of weird to like be somebody [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► listening to a walk maybe I I do it all [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► the time listen to podcasts all the time [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► when I walked [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► around on the street but you know I i do [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► have a thing I do wear like as soon as i [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► get in line [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► uh I tend to want to take off my [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► headphones because I I feel like I'm [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► already engaged in a process here so I [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► mean I don't get too far into this but [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► there is a chilling vision here so on [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► the one hand you got the guy you got the [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► guy who takes his headphones off which [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► is hopefully us then you got the guy who [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► doesn't do the dish thing where they [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► leave one headphone in and talk to you [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► about the other one in their hand like a [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► petunia mother talking to you huh [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► right but there will be something I seat [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► why someone that is chilling to me which [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► is somebody somebody walking up in the [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► coffee place with their headphones on [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► and the person at the counter at the [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► cash register the barista also has fucks [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► you start to think this is like [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► something out of philip k dick this is [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► this cannot end well I and I you know I [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► remember for a while there maybe it was [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► only in skymall but there were there [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► they were selling a little like um [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► universal television remote we can shut [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► off the TV you can shut off the TV and [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► public places if you have this thing and [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► I always I always thought about getting [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► it but it felt like I had to balance my [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► desire to have that thing against my [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► maybe stronger desire never to carry [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► around a thing you know now I don't [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► carry around a bunch of gizmos and the [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► last thing I wanted was a was like an [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► asshole gizmo like this but if I was a [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► good if I was a guy that was that was [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► carrying a bunch of stuff anyway I would [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► love to have a thing that turns TV's off [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► da we'll see i have mixed feelings on [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► that because i will just the small the [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► small feeling is that that's a dick move [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► to do that that's not your place but my [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► much huger feeling is Jesus Christ why [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► is Fox News and CNN and sports well what [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► does that have to be on in every [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► restaurant why does it have to be on in [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► every Airport I think it's partly [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► because men in particular are terrified [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► of being alone with your thoughts [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► yeah but I swear now as long as we're [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► coming up with the new can and i think [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► one of them is like just shut that shit [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► off like if it's not if it's a baseball [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► game you really want to watch have it on [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► in your restaurant but like no remodel [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► in our city is complete until two tvs [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► have been added [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► yeah right and it's a man and I don't [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► think it's a problem of [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► like TV it's a problem of like [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► proliferation of town they got bathrooms [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► too but they have doors [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► yeah there's tvs you know like if you're [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► if you have a place there should be a TV [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► over in a TV place and there should be [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► seats arranged that are facing the TV [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► not a bar where seats are arranged as [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► though people are going to be talking to [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► each other and then TVs on every flat [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► surface where you have to swivel your [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► chair around two to see what the person [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► you're talking to is looking at but also [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► in airports TVs every three feet like [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► there should be a TV lounge in the [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► airport if you want to go watch TV [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► should be like the milking we should [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► have a TV area [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► yeah the rest of the space should be [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► bullshit because that be particularly [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► airports where they turn the volume on [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► it's like I'm already my mind is already [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► cluttered with travel thinking with like [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► like flying thinking with I mean I'm [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► trying to get my bags and my tickets and [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► I'm trying to go up to the counter and [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► talk to the woman about maybe i can get [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► an upgrade and CNN is yelling at me [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► about Ebola like right in my face and [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► right in my ear it's it is it's [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► profoundly rude and intrusive and it is [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► perceived to be a a bonus right the [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► airports are putting those in there [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► because they're like look what we're [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► doing for you [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► everybody look at this amazing thing [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► that we're doing we're giving you this [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► opportunity and it and it it speaks to [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► like the degradation of public space the [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► degradation of of the idea that we [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► should ever be alone with our thoughts [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► or have have a moment of quiet [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► reflection I mean with 20 years ago I [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► was a member of a little group of people [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► here in Seattle who late at night [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► periodically would go climb and alter [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► billboards we had a little billboard [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► altering gang and we did some I think [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► some pretty great work it was it was [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► only a couple years and we probably [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► altered all together maybe 15 20 [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► billboards and we would target [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► you know those the really graphic [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► anti-abortion ones or the you know the [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► real like competence and compensatory [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► jacked-up truck ones or you know like we [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► do and we would we would make a good [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► joke and they would get in the newspaper [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► and we had a good time wearing masks and [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► feeling like we were kind of banksy [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► before there was a banksy but really the [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► the argument was that these billboards [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► that billboards are things that give you [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► no choice [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► like whoever owned the space the air [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► space on the roof of the building sold [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► it to somebody who put up this big big [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► picture that you have no choice but to [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► look at right and as billboards [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► proliferate we all get used to the idea [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► that and and we all just sort of tassili [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► except that the notion that you should [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► not be able to just look around your [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► town without people shouting at you to [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► buy things and when you really start to [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► look at billboards in your town and and [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► as you're driving down the road it [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► becomes like well i grossly offensive [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► that your eyes which you need to have [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► open in order to walk or drive your your [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► eyes then our targeted everywhere you [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► look [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► look [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► by people who have no more right to do [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► it than just that they own or think they [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► owned or rented the you know the space [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► where the feet of the Billboard are [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► right there's no there's no set we don't [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► have a cent in our culture of like [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► renting the the space internationally on [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► cubic inches of sky right and there but [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► they are renting space in our minds you [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► know and it's space that they did that [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► they're not entitled to just because [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► they can we hit because they own the 23 [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► square feet where the foot of the [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► Billboard goes doesn't mean that they [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► own this like this real estate in my in [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► it like in my innocence in a way the [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► real estate of of just the innocence of [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► walking around with your eyes open and [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► we have become I mean 20 years ago it [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► seemed like we could still mount a [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► resistance to billboards proliferating [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► but now we're on the other side of that [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► and we because we accepted that because [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► we accepted years and years and years [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► ago decades before this idea of the [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► Billboard now our online life is just is [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► just billboards and everywhere you look [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► you have no you have no I innocence [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► somebody's trying to get in there every [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► up every chance i get inside think about [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► laying around the plane like even like [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► on virgin america they show the safety [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► video and then you have to sit there and [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► watch a commercial or three that you can [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► turn off that's about a foot and a half [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► from your face and and when I when they [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► first started doing that i would i would [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► flag the stewardess down and i would say [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► to have a piece of tape [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► yeah and they would always kind of sales [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► i think so and they come back to the [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► pièce de ballet she always carry a [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► first ape tape a piece of paper over my [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► TV screen because i was so I was so [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► offended by actually the original one [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► was when it was it was just liquid [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► crystal on the back you can get when [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► they first had phones in the background [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► airplane seats and then they realized [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► that that little liquid crystal display [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► could they could program it just to to [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► try and sell you a mastercard or [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► something i would take my piece of paper [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► over there and then everybody looked at [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► me like I was wearing a tinfoil hat it's [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► like no I just this thing is this little [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► thing is yelling at me and it's [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► programmed to flash in such a way that I [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► keep looking at it and like you say it's [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► one foot in front of my face and I [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► already paid four hundred dollars for [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► this chair anything about the airports [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► that drives me crazy there's all this [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► you know obviously there's all the [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► security theater stuff you know with TSA [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► when there's all of these so you going [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► to sit down you're trying desperately to [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► find out if there's anything that's [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► changed with your flight so you gotta [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► kind of had listened with half an ear to [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► find out what's happening with your [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► flight and you got here everybody else's [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► flights which is fine you got here CNN [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► and fox which are blaring and then here [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► the Robo announcements with the [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► extremely important security information [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► about not leaving your bags unattended [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► like is there anybody who's going to [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► process that every time it comes on its [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► it's just interesting nobody fucking [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► cares it's just a drone [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► yeah that the airport's I i flew [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► frontier this last time when i flew out [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► to Massachusetts or I didn't actually [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► fly frontier here's what happened [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► I had a ticket on front here and i [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► missed the flight because that's [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► apparently something that starts to [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► happen to you when you're in your [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► forties I've never missed a flight [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► before before the last two years and in [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► the last two years I've missed [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► I don't know three four flights that [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► your final family right [TS]