Roderick on the Line

Ep. 130: "Repping This Vibration"


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  hello hi John I couldn't find my [TS]

  microphone that's ok it's the one in [TS]

  front of their thing going good how are [TS]

  you [TS]

  oh man you've been busy i have been busy [TS]

  America has been watching you Dr Who I [TS]

  drove and drove and drove and let's talk [TS]

  about I know a dude drove from [TS]

  Massachusetts to New Hampshire to [TS]

  Vermont to New York to Pennsylvania to [TS]

  ohio oh my god to Indiana to Illinois to [TS]

  Missouri to kansas to Nebraska to South [TS]

  Dakota tune Wyoming to Montana to Idaho [TS]

  to Washington cheese and you did that [TS]

  probably in like a fuel-efficient hybrid [TS]

  or electric vehicle anything it's just [TS]

  spreading greenness school of those it's [TS]

  one of those bicycles that has a little [TS]

  electric motor on it [TS]

  it's free and it took me four years no I [TS]

  average 10 miles to the gallon [TS]

  oh I'm so glad you're 79 suburban does [TS]

  not have comments enabled that's right [TS]

  says 779 suburban in full-time [TS]

  four-wheel drive the entire way I drove [TS]

  across America in four-wheel drive [TS]

  it's like a fast snowplow basically [TS]

  that's exactly right that I could see [TS]

  guys it in auto shops as I drove by [TS]

  eyeballing it for like to fit a snowplow [TS]

  to it to fit snowplow to the front end [TS]

  is no plan of the back and yeah it was [TS]

  it was you know in the middle of the [TS]

  country of course gases like two dollars [TS]

  and fifty cents a gallon [TS]

  really yeah so I that there are couple [TS]

  times i put pretty a minute [TS]

  no I don't believe I don't believe in [TS]

  premium gas I was like you know what [TS]

  bring together like two hours and sixty [TS]

  cents little america fuck it [TS]

  yeah yeah you could take a big gulp cup [TS]

  for gas port on the ground [TS]

  oh my god and so I don't even know where [TS]

  to begin [TS]

  so this is i guess for people who've [TS]

  been listening for a while they know [TS]

  that this has been a girl quest for you [TS]

  what you want for your white whale the [TS]

  on one hand we want to find the right [TS]

  automobile the right truck for you but [TS]

  also you have something pretty specific [TS]

  in mind for a while [TS]

  yeah a specific thing and it seemed like [TS]

  it seems like the there just weren't [TS]

  that many of them might my perception [TS]

  growing up in Anchorage was that there [TS]

  were a limitless number of Suburbans [TS]

  because at they definitely were the rich [TS]

  kid car in Anchorage right if you were [TS]

  like a if you were pretty well-off kid [TS]

  your family at least had a suburban in [TS]

  addition to three or four other cars and [TS]

  a and a boat on an airplane but [TS]

  Suburbans were everywhere and I just had [TS]

  this idea that that in the seventies [TS]

  like the suburban was the most popular [TS]

  car maybe I thought and then with with a [TS]

  little bit more research I realized that [TS]

  in fact Chevy Chevy was like solidly in [TS]

  third place of us truck sales all the [TS]

  way through the sixties seventies and [TS]

  eighties that's surprising [TS]

  it is Ford has always sold the most [TS]

  trucks and then dodge sells more trucks [TS]

  than Chevy which was like a rock that's [TS]

  Chevy ok that was Chevy trying to like [TS]

  you know and i think what has happened [TS]

  is that General Motors for those of you [TS]

  not in the United States General Motors [TS]

  owns chevrolet and GMC has caught up in [TS]

  the truck races if you drive across the [TS]

  country now you'd be astonished how many [TS]

  dodge trucks they're ours I think dodge [TS]

  might be number one [TS]

  you know I see a lot of his toyota [TS]

  tundra well but see you live on the [TS]

  coast and this is a crucial this is this [TS]

  is one of the cliq crucial fog so that [TS]

  we're in living out here who the cars [TS]

  that are on the road in san francisco in [TS]

  seattle are not representative of the [TS]

  cars that are on the road anywhere in [TS]

  the middle of the country is that right [TS]

  down there there [TS]

  huge huge portions of the above the trip [TS]

  that I just took where every single car [TS]

  i could see and you know the ground is [TS]

  flat too i can see three miles ahead and [TS]

  three miles behind and every single one [TS]

  is a pickup truck and they're all like [TS]

  hyped up jacked up customized I mean the [TS]

  they come right out of the factory now [TS]

  pre customized right in the same way [TS]

  that you could customize your and almost [TS]

  puts a light of the term because when [TS]

  you think of customizing you think of [TS]

  taking ladies you're starting out just [TS]

  in the sense of like ordinarily back in [TS]

  the day you go to some kind of shop in [TS]

  your area to get a tricked-out right you [TS]

  go and you get things get added to it [TS]

  but you're saying you can get like the [TS]

  same kind of variety of tricked-out [TS]

  stuff like right off the showroom floor [TS]

  yeah I have to go to a specialty shop [TS]

  for that was an innovation I think that [TS]

  the the scion remember one that the [TS]

  scion was released and and it was part [TS]

  of the marketing was that you could you [TS]

  could trick it out from the factory a [TS]

  hundred different ways or a thousand [TS]

  different ways and now my guess is that [TS]

  all automakers will embrace this soon [TS]

  but for sure if you if you want [TS]

  it's kind it's kind of like the kind of [TS]

  like this that that the nomenclature of [TS]

  the espresso Wars remember one is that [TS]

  by frank herbert dunno but human nature [TS]

  of the espresso Wars yeah it was a it [TS]

  was a module that I used to [TS]

  here's what I was dyani the coffee must [TS]

  flow but remember one that went when a [TS]

  small suddenly became at all and you [TS]

  know who that a medium was a grande and [TS]

  a been so there's something else on top [TS]

  of that get the vente vente that's right [TS]

  and on a truck like this the smallest [TS]

  least option truck is alright already [TS]

  branded as like the extreme Omega you [TS]

  know you have this four-cylinder Ford [TS]

  f-150 [TS]

  yeah it's just it's already got flames [TS]

  on it from the factory and then you can [TS]

  you can just you can decide how many [TS]

  more [TS]

  ridiculous like skull heads and you know [TS]

  you can get the grill so that looks like [TS]

  sharks teeth and just one but it's [TS]

  because it's nominally this is the part [TS]

  that's hilarious to me is that because [TS]

  it's nominally for work [TS]

  I mean if you're if you're a cowboy or a [TS]

  construction worker you kind of have to [TS]

  have a pickup truck because you need to [TS]

  put a saddle you're gonna be able to put [TS]

  a saddle and your nissan leaf you need [TS]

  something that big but the funny part is [TS]

  how many of these things here I'm you [TS]

  hear that sound it sounds like like I [TS]

  like a fedex truck here that pops lots [TS]

  of diesel it was not a single scratch in [TS]

  the bed right well yeah because they're [TS]

  all they're doing is I mean yeah they're [TS]

  just going from mr. obese children [TS]

  soccer clothing in the back [TS]

  well they're going from there they're [TS]

  weird I mean you know that hardly [TS]

  anybody really works anymore but they're [TS]

  going to tell you want to go to costco [TS]

  after applebees you're not still not [TS]

  working in software necessarily but [TS]

  they're working in some kind of you know [TS]

  propane based economy where there though [TS]

  they are doing work but it's but it's [TS]

  still is like it doesn't require hauling [TS]

  yeah and and what's what's what's [TS]

  astonishing is that all of the like [TS]

  rock-and-roll rebel iconography of 25 [TS]

  years ago where the rock'n'roll rebel [TS]

  saw himself as the opposite of some dumb [TS]

  middle of the country hick all that [TS]

  rock'n'roll rebel iconography is now [TS]

  completely embraced and endorsed by [TS]

  these young guys in the middle of the [TS]

  country and including like extreme [TS]

  sports talk and & hip-hop [TS]

  well and super super hip hop so so that [TS]

  means like there's the coastal [TS]

  affectation that come out of hard rock [TS]

  and maybe even a little bit of punk rock [TS]

  right you get that kind of stuff you got [TS]

  that the dice tattoos over the checkered [TS]

  flags or whatever little weird i mean [TS]

  the the weird rockabilly offshoot of [TS]

  punk rockers yet but but still you're [TS]

  right like spray-painted graphics and [TS]

  and no fear are and so all the way [TS]

  across the country every single young [TS]

  guy is reppin this vibration right that [TS]

  he's radical no fear [TS]

  gar and he's in his truck communicates [TS]

  that and and the like the driving [TS]

  etiquette certainly communicates that a [TS]

  lot of them are also pulling trailers [TS]

  that have more rad four-wheel off-road [TS]

  you know gasps burnin things and as I'm [TS]

  driving across the country in might like [TS]

  vintage suburban with it's like bubble [TS]

  that basically the all the the logos are [TS]

  in comic sans I'm thinking at first I'm [TS]

  thinking like these guys coming up [TS]

  behind me right there in a GMC truck i'm [TS]

  in a GMC truck there they're gonna like [TS]

  tip their hat they're going to recognize [TS]

  as they blow by me because I'm con 60 [TS]

  miles an hour and the right-hand lane [TS]

  and they're going 90 and they're gonna [TS]

  tip their hand as they go by one after [TS]

  another after another no recognition of [TS]

  me or acknowledgement of the that the [TS]

  thing that I'm doing is cool got no [TS]

  history [TS]

  not at all and and everyone's gonna [TS]

  think you're driving you're driving like [TS]

  the what you're driving this 64 and a [TS]

  half Mustang of their truck yeah 37 [TS]

  Chevy of their truck it's their [TS]

  grandpa's truck and the fact that their [TS]

  truck is made out of plastic and that [TS]

  most of it was probably made in korea [TS]

  doesn't you know it doesn't matter [TS]

  because they are because they're [TS]

  representing a whole different whole [TS]

  different philosophy and honestly I feel [TS]

  like calling up my good friend Elon Musk [TS]

  yeah and saying if you really want to [TS]

  revolutionize this country make you know [TS]

  electric motors have a ton of torque and [TS]

  torque is something that you hear talked [TS]

  about a lot in the middle of the country [TS]

  that's why they want a diesel motor and [TS]

  let's talk because they got a lot of [TS]

  torque [TS]

  that's right [TS]

  and nothing's got more torque than an [TS]

  electric motor and if somebody just [TS]

  makes a ridiculously torquay truck and [TS]

  then they build an advertising campaign [TS]

  around it [TS]

  featuring like Travis Tritt and Pauly [TS]

  Shore and Peter tank and their era [TS]

  I don't know if you can get Peter Tork [TS]

  but it at there in the truck and a bunch [TS]

  of guys in there dodge trucks are like [TS]

  get a mud bog and then here you come in [TS]

  your Tesla truck and you just you just [TS]

  school these guys in the mud bogger like [TS]

  oh yeah you think you've got pulling [TS]

  power [TS]

  wha and you gotta make it so that it [TS]

  makes some blast sound room they do that [TS]

  now the ad sounds like aw i heard they [TS]

  heard on NPR about how they add like [TS]

  extra motor sound coming through the [TS]

  speakers [TS]

  ya-ya-ya-ya-ya motor sounds you put up [TS]

  you put a huge subwoofer in the back [TS]

  that's just making muffler silencer pump [TS]

  and you would you transform the country [TS]

  because because honestly like the [TS]

  they're not they're not buying these [TS]

  things really because USA evens because [TS]

  i have to do is like open the glove box [TS]

  and it says Made in China in there there [TS]

  if it's just a kind of like it's it's [TS]

  peacocking you know it's a display of of [TS]

  no compromise attitude and me nothing [TS]

  says no compromise like like Elon Musk [TS]

  your that's right there's no reason you [TS]

  get some it's a nice green truck nuts on [TS]

  there now you're absolutely right i [TS]

  guess i think about now because you know [TS]

  um let's make timely but we're in the [TS]

  midst of a baseball tournament here you [TS]

  know everybody's wearing their their [TS]

  gear for the local sports team [TS]

  you know I was in I was in the town of [TS]

  the opposing sports sports team led a [TS]

  BBQ i did it i drove past the sports [TS]

  stadium where the where the baseball [TS]

  tournament was being played the [TS]

  royalties and then I had the most of [TS]

  them had the most American experience in [TS]

  my life i was driving out of Kansas City [TS]

  in the middle of the night [TS]

  trying to get the baseball game on my am [TS]

  radio alcohol and hannah has taco radio [TS]

  and I and I tuned in a little bit want [TS]

  father's a pitch and it's a out to [TS]

  centerfield and it's all dark there's [TS]

  nobody else on the road and i'm driving [TS]

  on these little roads outside of Kansas [TS]

  City listen to the world series on the [TS]

  radio and I was just like god damn it [TS]

  yeah you're living the dream there I was [TS]

  just remember the first having this [TS]

  thought when I was in college for [TS]

  started walking to the college bookstore [TS]

  and even at our tiny little school you [TS]

  could get you know hats shirts bags with [TS]

  the name of the college on it and [TS]

  remember even thinking Nandu college [TS]

  yeah they can even more now they're like [TS]

  to imagine that there's a factory that [TS]

  just makes giant stuff you mentioned [TS]

  that there's a factory just because of [TS]

  the allegiance and the importance of [TS]

  supporting a local team like there's [TS]

  someplace like probably went north [TS]

  carolina right there's going to be some [TS]

  place where old ladies who love the [TS]

  Giants for making Giants have they don't [TS]

  fucking care [TS]

  I like somebody somebody in in Asia and [TS]

  East Asia is making like 11 cents a day [TS]

  to stitch those those official hats and [TS]

  jerseys and that they have absolutely no [TS]

  allegiance they probably can't read the [TS]

  letters on them but the same is true [TS]

  with the trucks were like there's this [TS]

  whole mythology nothing nothing nothing [TS]

  against the great car makers of America [TS]

  or the people who buy them but you know [TS]

  it is pretty is pretty hilarious this [TS]

  been going on for like 25 years now but [TS]

  you're right it's completely cosmetic in [TS]

  some ways it's like it's a car costume [TS]

  yeah but it but it i mean what i had a [TS]

  lot of time to think it's not close the [TS]

  country with it was just an AM radio [TS]

  with just the same radio for company in [TS]

  my CB radio which I you know the antenna [TS]

  fell off the roof so I wasn't really [TS]

  able to get that are joking you really [TS]

  had a CD for a while i was still do [TS]

  papacy ba just I just need to get the [TS]

  right antenna but you know the the [TS]

  middle of the country is really [TS]

  different and it's also a really nice [TS]

  place full of really nice people you and [TS]

  I have had this conversation a million [TS]

  times and anybody that's traveled has [TS]

  and a lot of the people i met on this [TS]

  trip have never seen the ocean right so [TS]

  you know in a way there were there were [TS]

  moments where i had a kind of feeling of [TS]

  like okay [TS]

  we're talking right now about how the [TS]

  Jews control the media I i'm not [TS]

  mistaking like what the subtext of this [TS]

  conversation is but I'm the only person [TS]

  in this conversation that's ever seen [TS]

  Neil the ocean so like you guys seem to [TS]

  all feel like you've got the truth of [TS]

  this story but but what you're missing [TS]

  is knowledge like you don't you may he [TS]

  in fact you may have the truth but you [TS]

  don't have any knowledge that's a really [TS]

  nice distinction he should know and I i [TS]

  do not claim to have the truth at all [TS]

  but i do have knowledge and it was a bit [TS]

  that they were you know a lot of [TS]

  experiences i had a lot of like side of [TS]

  the road conversations where I where I [TS]

  felt like I really do understand the [TS]

  center of the country a little bit and I [TS]

  like it [TS]

  you know I like it here it it's not you [TS]

  know it's not like primitive by contrast [TS]

  but it's very different the values are [TS]

  different the trajectory is different [TS]

  they are not headed the same place that [TS]

  the people on the coasts I can I can [TS]

  hazard a couple pretty good guesses why [TS]

  that is why you feel that way and just [TS]

  giving some conversations we've had in [TS]

  the last month or two [TS]

  it's in you like you say it's not like [TS]

  it's primitive but it is compared to [TS]

  some things relatively uncomplicated you [TS]

  know it's really really simple even but [TS]

  I mean like there's there's a version of [TS]

  how this goes and they're not staying up [TS]

  all night worrying about it it it really [TS]

  feels like it feels like like a [TS]

  trajectory you know that that people on [TS]

  the west coast are churning ID is faster [TS]

  and there is there are there are [TS]

  fashionable ideas people on the west and [TS]

  east coast people out in the out in the [TS]

  world people in Paris too [TS]

  probably an Auckland New Zealand [TS]

  are churning ideas maybe not often but [TS]

  they're turning ideas and they're [TS]

  they're going through them faster and [TS]

  faster right you get it you get it as an [TS]

  idea that flashes around everybody's [TS]

  talking about it and and if you're [TS]

  living in kansas city but your butt your [TS]

  primary life is on the internet you [TS]

  you're also part of this conversation [TS]

  right but if you're not if you're not [TS]

  part of it you're not eat you're not [TS]

  aware of these like these these intense [TS]

  passions of thought that seemed to be [TS]

  leading us somewhere right where where [TS]

  where the product you and I and our [TS]

  listeners over the course of the last [TS]

  three years where the product of 500 [TS]

  5000 idea storms that that we can maybe [TS]

  get ourselves or maybe it's true that [TS]

  those ideas storms are building [TS]

  something there there there we are [TS]

  further along and if you were living [TS]

  somewhere where you were none of those [TS]

  ideas storms that happened the tempo of [TS]

  thought is slower you know and and your [TS]

  thought evolution is slower and you end [TS]

  up on a different Road to some you know [TS]

  you're headed [TS]

  what you're on the road that you [TS]

  perceive to be the road and out here on [TS]

  the coasts where like where where we [TS]

  have this sort of fracturing all the [TS]

  time of of what we think even the road [TS]

  is who [TS]

  so i did not i didn't come i didn't come [TS]

  over i didn't come through the country [TS]

  feeling like more hopeful that we were [TS]

  going to achieve a national consensus at [TS]

  any time [TS]

  and yet I had that experience that you [TS]

  can't help but having when you're when [TS]

  you're in the middle of the country [TS]

  which is like everybody here is great [TS]

  it's really nice and this is like and [TS]

  everyone has good will you know there [TS]

  are like very liberal people out here [TS]

  there are people with very progressive [TS]

  ideas but in general it feels like that [TS]

  part of the country is starting to [TS]

  really want different things [TS]

  well you know I got a couple thoughts [TS]

  are quickly on this one is that term i [TS]

  learned from your freshman there's you [TS]

  think about like depending on where you [TS]

  live where the sources of when you think [TS]

  about all these ideas being hustled in [TS]

  one place or another or as you like to [TS]

  say like trying on new ideas like where [TS]

  are the sources of friction in those [TS]

  areas and I think that's what one key [TS]

  difference is you know whatever I mean [TS]

  really simple over simplified way to [TS]

  look at whatever your culture is [TS]

  whatever whatever gets approved or [TS]

  talked about mostly favorably a lot [TS]

  tends to be the thing most people kind [TS]

  of agree with I think generally and you [TS]

  know you can you can have your own sort [TS]

  of like disagreements about those things [TS]

  maybe you want to get organic analyst [TS]

  out of regular kale or whatever but i [TS]

  think that we're your source efficient [TS]

  exist are really interesting one of the [TS]

  things that you mostly agree with other [TS]

  people on and i think that's that's 11 [TS]

  way in which that's different is that [TS]

  like for medium and a lot of my friends [TS]

  and like coastal dummies [TS]

  it's like as soon as I have an idea that [TS]

  feels to fixed in my mind that's when I [TS]

  get nervous [TS]

  yeah that's what I feel like I'm [TS]

  probably full of shit is what i get when [TS]

  i get to positive about anything and [TS]

  everybody is agreeing with me like [TS]

  that's that's when I start to think whoa [TS]

  that this is an idea that needs to be [TS]

  reexamined mhm but the other thing is [TS]

  you so much for this makes any sense but [TS]

  you know in I haven't traveled a great [TS]

  deal and most of traveling a have done [TS]

  has been the US but I'm starting to feel [TS]

  like there's you've got you'll see you [TS]

  got your kids and we're just completely [TS]

  right off anybody who's under like 12 [TS]

  but from like the age of 12 to like 27 [TS]

  you got what i would call like young [TS]

  people and no matter where you go in [TS]

  America they're fucking insane [TS]

  there are completely crazy but they're [TS]

  kind of crazy in somewhat similar ways [TS]

  they take a lot of risks they are very [TS]

  skeptical of authority etcetera etcetera [TS]

  at the other end you got people at my [TS]

  age and older [TS]

  who were things slow down a little bit [TS]

  you become a little bit more forgiving [TS]

  and humane a lot of the time but i think [TS]

  that I wonder if the biggest differences [TS]

  in America are in like the 33 year old [TS]

  male across America you know what I mean [TS]

  you think about how different what you [TS]

  want to rap to the world is when you're [TS]

  still like you're just enough out of the [TS]

  oven that you've got a little bit of a [TS]

  crust on you but like you still you [TS]

  still don't really have any fucking idea [TS]

  what's going on when you're in like your [TS]

  late twenties early thirties you don't [TS]

  mean like you take like the guy who [TS]

  thinks he's the guy rapping the coolest [TS]

  thing in Kansas City versus berkeley vs [TS]

  are watching leno Seattle vs. New [TS]

  Hampshire idea [TS]

  did you notice bigger that's that's to [TS]

  me like where I feel like I see [TS]

  differences [TS]

  well I'm part of it is that i'm looking [TS]

  at 33 year old guys right that they are [TS]

  they are peacocking the hardest they're [TS]

  the ones that are the most expressive [TS]

  about about the the idea is that they're [TS]

  rapin they maybe got a little bit more [TS]

  money to spend on demonstrating that [TS]

  through peacocking well and yeah and i [TS]

  think it [TS]

  thirty-three-year-old is the peak but I [TS]

  mean it starts at that starts at 22 [TS]

  I mean what I had several tweet ups [TS]

  across the country and I could walk into [TS]

  a bar and pick out the people that were [TS]

  there to see me from across the roads [TS]

  are looking at the phone and crying well [TS]

  and it's and it's not that it's not [TS]

  because they were wearing beards because [TS]

  everybody's wearing beards and it's not [TS]

  because they're wearing a warby parker [TS]

  glasses because that you see enough of [TS]

  that but there's just enough there's a [TS]

  subtle kind of combination of you know [TS]

  the-the-the I ironic negro league [TS]

  baseball shirt or the you know the but [TS]

  just the cut of your jib if you can see [TS]

  it from across the room [TS]

  don't you mean yeah and for so for sure [TS]

  i'm i'm i'm conscious of that difference [TS]

  between 33 roles because i'm looking for [TS]

  but also i do feel like those are the [TS]

  those are the places where the idea [TS]

  fashions lodge themselves [TS]

  those are the those are the progenitors [TS]

  of of the of the cause of the day you [TS]

  know and in Kansas City you know like [TS]

  for instance suspicions about the [TS]

  government you know when I was a young [TS]

  guy when you were a young guy the [TS]

  difference between liberal and [TS]

  conservative was that conservative [TS]

  people were generally pro-government and [TS]

  liberal people were generally suspicious [TS]

  of government because government was the [TS]

  cops and government was ronald reagan [TS]

  and government was the man and left of [TS]

  the entire culture that allowed richard [TS]

  nixon to happen [TS]

  yeah and right and left ism was the [TS]

  counterculture that was that was the [TS]

  other word name we still a narrative [TS]

  into like the early nineties i think [TS]

  yeah right right although all the way [TS]

  through the the grunge years the left [TS]

  and the counterculture were synonymous [TS]

  and the right was was synonymous with [TS]

  like the small town people and the [TS]

  developer church values and so forth and [TS]

  so on whether they were connected to the [TS]

  government and the status quo and now [TS]

  we're living in a world where all of the [TS]

  the the the people in the prime of their [TS]

  life in the middle of the country if [TS]

  they proceed if they if they think of [TS]

  themselves as conservative they think of [TS]

  themselves as opposed to the government [TS]

  which they perceive to be a product of [TS]

  all these years of political correctness [TS]

  all these years of university people and [TS]

  the liberal media and Cena super I I get [TS]

  the feeling smug intervention like yeah [TS]

  you know better than everybody and [TS]

  enforcing that down threats exactly i [TS]

  mean it started when when somebody came [TS]

  to their dads club and said you have to [TS]

  start letting women into the club it [TS]

  can't just be men only anymore and they [TS]

  were like what the fuck is the [TS]

  government doing telling me [TS]

  blankety-blank [TS]

  and that kind of you know the liberalism [TS]

  that that in a way did have a up I grew [TS]

  a tremendous power in American [TS]

  government at the bureaucratic level you [TS]

  know we talk it's it's funny how the [TS]

  demographic shake-up when you just have [TS]

  slightly fewer people who are [TS]

  systematically kept from making money [TS]

  and having power when you change that [TS]

  shit before formally just a little bit's [TS]

  this disruptive to everybody but the but [TS]

  the liberal project was really to [TS]

  colonize the bureaucracy of the [TS]

  government you know in a in a way it [TS]

  doesn't matter who the president is and [TS]

  when at a national level we talked about [TS]

  like oh it's you know the george bush's [TS]

  in the business is in Iraq and wearing a [TS]

  wearing a police state but at the [TS]

  department of health and human services [TS]

  they are still enacting a generally [TS]

  liberal project you know and and we have [TS]

  these yea yea even setting aside what [TS]

  the actual goals or implementation is [TS]

  the whole idea of it is essentially a [TS]

  more liberal idea right [TS]

  yeah so as long as there's public [TS]

  housing as long as there's public [TS]

  assistance as long as their social [TS]

  security as long as there's food stamps [TS]

  as long as there is and not just that [TS]

  stuff but you know every time a [TS]

  government government regulator comes [TS]

  and tells you you have to clean the [TS]

  asbestos out here furnace flue you know [TS]

  it is in general a kind of liberalism in [TS]

  action and it doesn't matter who the [TS]

  commander-in-chief is and the middle of [TS]

  the country perceives that and perceives [TS]

  the m88 because they perceive it at a at [TS]

  a street level you know they see those [TS]

  changes enacted and they feel that [TS]

  they've grown this estrangement to the [TS]

  government and they state so they've [TS]

  adopted all this [TS]

  all this froth of like that that sounds [TS]

  anarchist almost you know they are they [TS]

  see themselves as a counterculture to [TS]

  the to the forward motion the inevitable [TS]

  forward motion of this liberal [TS]

  conversion and that the only problem is [TS]

  that the but the liberals on the Left [TS]

  Coast also still see themselves as a [TS]

  counterculture so everybody in the [TS]

  fucking country now sees themselves as a [TS]

  goddamn counter culture and the culture [TS]

  that we perceive ourselves to be at war [TS]

  with you know i mean if you if you went [TS]

  down and talked to people at el centro [TS]

  del rosa and say like do you feel like [TS]

  the government is on your side you know [TS]

  they're going to say no are you kidding [TS]

  me we're living in a white male [TS]

  supremacist police state where a you [TS]

  know which is still have still has like [TS]

  systemic discrimination and then you go [TS]

  out to the country and you get some some [TS]

  kid off of the back of his truck [TS]

  do you feel like the government's on [TS]

  your side he's like what are you kidding [TS]

  me like nobody feels like the government [TS]

  represents them and it's fucking bizarre [TS]

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  of Roderick on the line we could not do [TS]

  it without not all been nothing all [TS]

  anything and so you got a 78 suburban [TS]

  recovered I I don't give a new half the [TS]

  states that you mentioned that's that's [TS]

  it doesn't asinine number of states and [TS]

  you covered it all in like five days [TS]

  no well I mean you know I stayed in ohio [TS]

  for 45 days you see family saw some [TS]

  family I was a you know I have a have a [TS]

  nephew who's a firefighter and we were [TS]

  there at his fire station in ashland [TS]

  oregon and he was showing us around and [TS]

  then just like on remember the [TS]

  television show emergency room getting [TS]

  desoto again and just that maybe I i [TS]

  think i remember can make sure that [TS]

  sound [TS]

  we're all around for my regular driving [TS]

  around feeling ok it's a little older I [TS]

  get a total boner from that sound I [TS]

  should make that my ring town and then [TS]

  and my nephew who was who is standing [TS]

  right in front of me a with kids all [TS]

  around him talking about the pumper [TS]

  truck [TS]

  his eyes went black like a shark and all [TS]

  of a sudden he did not see us [TS]

  no one saw us and all that was [TS]

  communicated to us was you know my body [TS]

  language is like a public-safety sleeper [TS]

  settle [TS]

  yeah right it was like get the fuck out [TS]

  of the way do you hear the sound and we [TS]

  all scrambled and they were in that [TS]

  truck and a hole and ass out the door [TS]

  with the siren on in sweats appear to be [TS]

  seconds and I I you know I've known [TS]

  firefighters have a good friend who's a [TS]

  paramedic [TS]

  I think about firefighters all the time [TS]

  because they go by on the road but to be [TS]

  in the fire station in this state of [TS]

  like basically padding around in your [TS]

  underwear having a day but Posada and [TS]

  then just checking on the chili yeah I [TS]

  want your story set bail and then like [TS]

  the leap into action and and as they [TS]

  were going out the door I was conscious [TS]

  of the fact that they have no idea what [TS]

  they're about to go see and it could be [TS]

  a cat stuck in a tree or it could be a [TS]

  Lincoln Continental on fire with six [TS]

  people in it and can imagine that I [TS]

  cannot and I can I can't imagine the not [TS]

  knowing of that and you know and [TS]

  probably it is only in continental like [TS]

  full of people often enough that you [TS]

  don't just kind of slacking off you [TS]

  gotta treat each one like it's 911 [TS]

  yeah and it's not I mean and and I think [TS]

  it's statistically at least for these [TS]

  guys out in central Ohio it's not it's [TS]

  not a big car wreck for people that [TS]

  often it's not a house fire that often [TS]

  ninety-eight percent of the time it's [TS]

  somebody who who finally ate the last [TS]

  cheeto that put them over 750 pounds and [TS]

  they have to go get the winch to get [TS]

  them out of their house later that they [TS]

  have a special truck for that by the way [TS]

  they have a special truck in Ohio to get [TS]

  people out of their houses they can't go [TS]

  off the doorknob I don't crap out of the [TS]

  second store I don't want to talk about [TS]

  that on air but I really but when here i [TS]

  want to hear about the obesity winch [TS]

  I mean it was it was it serious like [TS]

  that that because my you know my visit [TS]

  the type of question my mom asks and she [TS]

  was there and she was like what do you [TS]

  do about the people that are too they're [TS]

  too big to get out of bed and he kind of [TS]

  like gave a little head nod and he [TS]

  walked us around to the back of the fire [TS]

  station to obama we write him a check it [TS]

  kid [TS]

  you can't fit them in a normal an [TS]

  ambulance and here's the ambulance that [TS]

  we use a little because they're like wow [TS]

  there it is but [TS]

  but the idea the idea that that through [TS]

  the entire career of a fireman that they [TS]

  are sitting there in this state of like [TS]

  like hey nothing happened a minute ago [TS]

  nothing's happened in this minute I'm [TS]

  stirring the chili i'm watching my [TS]

  stories [TS]

  yep and then that Bell and then it's [TS]

  like oh maybe I'm gonna go see the worst [TS]

  thing I've ever seen in my life right [TS]

  now and I have to know how to I have to [TS]

  i'm the only one on the scene that's [TS]

  gonna be able to fix it if anybody can [TS]

  it's things like superhuman right and it [TS]

  had to be able to have the Chilean [TS]

  stories moments and in being your repose [TS]

  and not be freaking out all the time or [TS]

  you know having you know I'm better [TS]

  cardiac around yeah and the other thing [TS]

  is they're on duty 24 hours so it's just [TS]

  like all right for the next 24 hours [TS]

  you're going to be you're going to be [TS]

  oscillating between these two poles [TS]

  total calm and like manic like [TS]

  borderline I mean you have to you have [TS]

  to compress your emotions so hard and [TS]

  then [TS]

  oh then you're off work and you're just [TS]

  like a normal kind of family guy [TS]

  bumbling around the house for a few days [TS]

  and then you're back in this situation [TS]

  it just it its extraordinary one 24-hour [TS]

  I mean I don't understand like my wife [TS]

  works with his work with doctors for [TS]

  years I've never understood that [TS]

  why the long stretches for work that [TS]

  involves so much careful detail and [TS]

  presence of mind while i think that is [TS]

  24 hours [TS]

  I don't understand it either because it [TS]

  just seems so let me get this reason I [TS]

  don't on the corner office [TS]

  I just that makes zero sense to me I [TS]

  don't think I half understand the hazing [TS]

  of needing to get people's head around [TS]

  the idea that this is going to be [TS]

  intense experience you're not allowed to [TS]

  complain i understand six weeks of that [TS]

  I don't understand years and years of [TS]

  systematically putting people in [TS]

  conditions that have been scientifically [TS]

  shown to make you an efficient and slack [TS]

  key i don't know if you've ever had the [TS]

  experience of being worked on by an [TS]

  emergency room doctor who's been on [TS]

  shift 423 I'm gonna happen to saying [TS]

  that nearly as often as you but I have [TS]

  and that bleary-eyed a you know the [TS]

  bleary-eyed hyper hyper competence of [TS]

  somebody who's been has been up that [TS]

  long [TS]

  is like I mean in a way here they're [TS]

  injured and you feel like hey we're in [TS]

  the same boat a little bit like we're [TS]

  together you and I are are in an [TS]

  offworld right now you're tripping balls [TS]

  and I'm tripping balls [TS]

  I mean it may be trippin different balls [TS]

  it it may be that if if you only worked [TS]

  an eight hour shift in the fire station [TS]

  you'd have guys that work for eight [TS]

  hours and nothing ever happened and then [TS]

  you guys we're all fell on them and so [TS]

  thank you i get 12 hours i get 12 hours [TS]

  I don't get 24 hours [TS]

  yeah i don't know i mean they have babe [TS]

  they have Murphy beds at the fire [TS]

  station that they pull down and go to [TS]

  sleep on their Murphy beds to think [TS]

  about submarines [TS]

  not long ago I think it might have been [TS]

  some maybe that Steven Johnson [TS]

  documentary thing but it is about how [TS]

  likely they set their own time on [TS]

  submarines to be what is it that [TS]

  basically they monkey with the clocks so [TS]

  that your you have like this totally [TS]

  artificial 36 hour shifts in a day so [TS]

  like you have six hours of on-duty six [TS]

  hours of light duty and like six hours [TS]

  of sleep and they delayed it sounds [TS]

  completely crazy cuz you know you can [TS]

  just basically create whatever [TS]

  environment you want your dick there's [TS]

  no light there's that can make it [TS]

  whatever you want it to be but it just [TS]

  sounds like a recipe for insanity of me [TS]

  I like sleeping so much [TS]

  yeah i feel i mean as I was as i was [TS]

  driving across the country there was a [TS]

  moment where the light every day there's [TS]

  there's perfect like late afternoon [TS]

  light and I said to myself out loud why [TS]

  why does the Sun have to move smoothly [TS]

  across the sky [TS]

  why can't it just be four hours of early [TS]

  morning light for hours of one in the [TS]

  afternoon four hours of five in the [TS]

  afternoon four hours of eight o'clock at [TS]

  night you know like they're these [TS]

  perfect moments of of the day and night [TS]

  you'd be squelch it to kind of attenuate [TS]

  on the light that you like [TS]

  yeah and then at and then it could just [TS]

  be dark 48 hours when everybody went to [TS]

  sleep if I were george RR martin [TS]

  I wouldn't have done this whole like a [TS]

  winter comes every once in a while who [TS]

  knows never not yet and I would have [TS]

  done this other thing where the Sun kind [TS]

  of ticks across the sky like a little [TS]

  like an old knob like that like the one [TS]

  really unless like the second hand on a [TS]

  clock and really more like the hour hand [TS]

  click yeah [TS]

  click click click and now the different [TS]

  times a day [TS]

  Zoop I mean it would require physics to [TS]

  be different but I'm gonna be pretty [TS]

  always instead we can still have what [TS]

  amounts to a 24 what we now call a [TS]

  24-hour day would be so much more [TS]

  convenient if we only had six actual [TS]

  hours that we measured though you say [TS]

  somebody else see it too and you're [TS]

  roughly there at you know 2 at new to [TS]

  let me thanks that work i can totally [TS]

  make that work I don't do this money [TS]

  position in my day haha i don't need 15 [TS]

  minute increments in my day [TS]

  um let me ask you this yeah I I don't [TS]

  startle thing here but i I've been [TS]

  thinking about this you're driving down [TS]

  the road in let's say you haven't [TS]

  recently been in a fire station let's [TS]

  see it's just a normal day you hear [TS]

  sirens coming from behind you do you [TS]

  pull over [TS]

  do I get off the road to let the car go [TS]

  by yeah that look no yeah okay I do too [TS]

  I do too i think it's the law to the [TS]

  event I i would like to think that [TS]

  that's the law when I was a child when I [TS]

  was a child there was never any question [TS]

  about it every single person on the red [TS]

  fucking pulled over and let me let the [TS]

  let the ambulance or the fire truck or [TS]

  whatever go by now today it's they're [TS]

  more like is it cool if I get by like I [TS]

  can't believe how many people don't pull [TS]

  over anymore for like a fucking [TS]

  ambulance [TS]

  did you notice this I mean I really [TS]

  notices or even drive that much and i [TS]

  noticed and I'm like what is wrong with [TS]

  you people a lot of just sit they just [TS]

  stopped their car you know like that's [TS]

  gonna help know you have to get out of [TS]

  the way if the move and let this thing [TS]

  get by [TS]

  are you with me on this yeah well I'd I [TS]

  I see it I see that I declining [TS]

  standards everywhere Merlin only so this [TS]

  is my thread I'm trying to bring up here [TS]

  yeah cuz I thought about this i thought [TS]

  about this on your head [TS]

  well yeah people are not are not obeying [TS]

  the [TS]

  the mores it might be time to revisit a [TS]

  little bit of keep moving and get out of [TS]

  the way but here's my thought on this i [TS]

  was thinking this the other day because [TS]

  that happened and i was i'm always [TS]

  amazed by how many people don't and then [TS]

  last night I was watching the baseball [TS]

  game is great game and at the end of the [TS]

  game they're interviewing this picture [TS]

  this 25 year old kid who's this amazing [TS]

  pitcher for the giants and while they're [TS]

  on the the camera comes on the mic goes [TS]

  on you can hear the audio now inside the [TS]

  stadium of them interviewing him and [TS]

  like only like a couple words get out of [TS]

  the interviewers mouth before he turns [TS]

  and he tips his cap and he says to the [TS]

  audience thank you everybody thank you [TS]

  it's like fucking a yes it was so great [TS]

  to get like three more times and it [TS]

  wasn't like you look at me you know i'm [TS]

  madison just Baumgardner or whatever [TS]

  he's doing what people used to do which [TS]

  is you tip your fucking cap to the [TS]

  stadium you know they can thank you [TS]

  it's got a little class but when you go [TS]

  off when you go off when you go off the [TS]

  field you tip your cap you the people [TS]

  applaud you look up and you graciously [TS]

  like a gentleman [TS]

  you fucking tip your cap and you say [TS]

  thank you well don't get me started on [TS]

  tip your cap who I mean you know the [TS]

  range on to do I actually want to get [TS]

  you started i'm looking for a new canon [TS]

  here i'm looking for a new cannon with 2 [TS]

  n's not three but there were we can we [TS]

  can heal the divides between all these [TS]

  different vehicles and and what they're [TS]

  wrapping and I want to look I don't talk [TS]

  about money i don't want to talk about [TS]

  politics [TS]

  I want to talk about what's the stuff [TS]

  that just we all need to get on the same [TS]

  page with and I think I think moving [TS]

  over for the ambulance and tip your cap [TS]

  is a great place to start [TS]

  well the place to start is take your [TS]

  goddamn hat off when you walk inside [TS]

  oh please give today you can wear it's [TS]

  not kids it's guys my age like you know [TS]

  why but they're the only ones that are [TS]

  wearing stupid hats [TS]

  what's there but also that the proxy [TS]

  hater ball balls actually but I don't [TS]

  get I don't give a shit if you're always [TS]

  been somebody they think it's like [TS]

  asking somebody take a prosthetic legs [TS]

  like I'm not taking this off the thing [TS]

  is that in nineteen eighty being bald [TS]

  was I was difficult i admit that i [TS]

  really like while Shawn it was a general [TS]

  question [TS]

  yeah the standard was uh that you were a [TS]

  member of the that you were the star of [TS]

  the Bee Gees and not his fault brother [TS]

  everybody wanted a big hair and if you [TS]

  didn't have a big hair [TS]

  yeah you had Wallace Shawn little Tufts [TS]

  on the side and it was embarrassing but [TS]

  somewhere along the line in the nineteen [TS]

  nineties we invented the technology of [TS]

  shaving your head and now Paul guys look [TS]

  amazing ball guys look tough and cool [TS]

  and only you bald guy even know if [TS]

  you're bald and yours how her through [TS]

  being bald [TS]

  yeah the pearl you're the ball tough guy [TS]

  who's doesn't take any shit off anybody [TS]

  bald bald bald is beautiful [TS]

  so your hat is no longer like bullshit [TS]

  you're had your hat is a hat and if you [TS]

  want to bring hats back [TS]

  you also have to bring the whole retinue [TS]

  of hat etiquette [TS]

  the first and easiest thing the first [TS]

  and easiest part of which is they take [TS]

  it off when you come inside and I [TS]

  recognize that once you're inside and [TS]

  you've taken your hat off now you have [TS]

  the awkward problem of carrying your hat [TS]

  around where it's much easier to carry [TS]

  your hat on your head where it was [TS]

  before but wearing a hat is not easy it [TS]

  should it is not a simple thing that [TS]

  interests with a certain [TS]

  responsibilities does it's like fucking [TS]

  carrying a sword around if you don't get [TS]

  to carry it on an airplane and you don't [TS]

  get to where you're freaking hat [TS]

  wherever you got them 100 you don't have [TS]

  to check it but you should put in the [TS]

  overhead bin if the doors of the [TS]

  building that you're walking into our [TS]

  barn doors you can keep your hat on [TS]

  yeah it's this little nuance because i [TS]

  think i think definitely that no [TS]

  question if you're sitting one drives me [TS]

  crazy when people sit down to eat dinner [TS]

  and they're wearing a hat I don't know [TS]

  why but that really bothers me [TS]

  I don't know why you don't know why that [TS]

  bothers you or because it is affront to [TS]

  humanity [TS]

  yes yes take your goddamn head off and [TS]

  take your hat off when they play the [TS]

  national and all that's number three [TS]

  it's right right here on the list number [TS]

  three [TS]

  first of all get up and fucking sing the [TS]

  national anthem I don't care if you're a [TS]

  patriot or not just get up and sing the [TS]

  damn song [TS]

  put your hand over your heart will take [TS]

  your hat off and put it over your heart [TS]

  these are just simple little things if [TS]

  these this is exactly what I'm looking [TS]

  for John is more small ships see I feel [TS]

  like there's some gray areas i think if [TS]

  you're an elevator you take off your hat [TS]

  if you're in somebody's personal [TS]

  residence you take your head if you're [TS]

  in the lobby of a hotel i would say [TS]

  probably take off your hat lobby of a [TS]

  hotel if you're wearing your own [TS]

  the code you're carrying your suitcases [TS]

  put in his papers and newspaper under [TS]

  your arms around I feel like keep your [TS]

  head on feel like a lobby of the hotel [TS]

  you're still in a transition between [TS]

  here and there yes but once you get on [TS]

  that elevator schedule is a lady take [TS]

  out every goddamn hat off and and like [TS]

  rejoice in it [TS]

  rejoice in you you are already rejoicing [TS]

  in what you perceived to be e and this [TS]

  includes baseball hats I'm not just [TS]

  reminisce dumping on people in fedoras [TS]

  like you wear your wear your hat it Matt [TS]

  it means something to you ride it [TS]

  matters there's something about having [TS]

  it on that that leg but it's not just [TS]

  you know even if it has become an [TS]

  absent-minded thing at a certain point [TS]

  the Hat you recognize like this hat is [TS]

  going to be part of my identity this hat [TS]

  is part of my thing like rejoice in in [TS]

  all of the little dams that wearing a [TS]

  hat allows you to engage in that was a [TS]

  POC word sentence no I was with you [TS]

  forever awkward step I remember I I know [TS]

  what I'm gonna change my game because I [TS]

  where I wear like a like a car hard hat [TS]

  like a lot of the time because i want to [TS]

  keep my head warm to what you you should [TS]

  switch over to fill some help but yeah i [TS]

  agree okay you know i also got your hair [TS]

  cut so it's gonna be easier for me to [TS]

  take off a hat without having had head [TS]

  now but when i was walking across Europe [TS]

  up very shortly after I started really [TS]

  walking across the flat planes which up [TS]

  believing around starts all the way up [TS]

  in Holland I was like oh my god the Sun [TS]

  is beating down on me all day long and [TS]

  i'm not gonna be able to survive this [TS]

  this is like it's it's it's brutalizing [TS]

  me and I stayed the night in a little [TS]

  farmhouse and in the morning the the a [TS]

  wife of the house said you need a hat [TS]

  and I was like I was just thinking that [TS]

  I do need a hat and she reached up on a [TS]

  peg and she took down this straw farmers [TS]

  had and she said here you can have this [TS]

  and i was like i can have this year [TS]

  amazing strong farmers and she was like [TS]

  I go you know you you need it more than [TS]

  we do and I wore this had all the way [TS]

  across Europe and over [TS]

  the over the weeks i realized that out [TS]

  in the country all these little hat [TS]

  gestures still convey a ton of [TS]

  information who you put your finger up [TS]

  to it to you know take a little like a [TS]

  little mini salute [TS]

  yeah one finger up to the brim to salute [TS]

  a guy that's on a tractor you a you know [TS]

  you grab the brim and pull it down [TS]

  slightly to salute somebody who's [TS]

  driving by in a car you reach up and [TS]

  lifted off your head just slightly and [TS]

  put it back down if you pass a woman [TS]

  who's walking on the road you take it [TS]

  off when you're asking a question never [TS]

  task never ask someone a question [TS]

  without taking your hat off because the [TS]

  gesture of taking your hat off says I i [TS]

  beseech you just heard someone it's um [TS]

  it's differential that's right [TS]

  hello I need information i am i am here [TS]

  at your at your service and there are so [TS]

  many times in a day when you can [TS]

  communicate i am at your service to [TS]

  someone simply by taking your head off [TS]

  and in a lot of cases i had a language [TS]

  barrier but i was able to surmount the [TS]

  language barrier because I learned that [TS]

  the sign language of the Hat and you eat [TS]

  eat [TS]

  you can take it off you can take it and [TS]

  and do a couple of little hat tricks [TS]

  flip it around or whatever to impress a [TS]

  little kid like but people understand [TS]

  that you are a human being if they see [TS]

  you off your hat or if they see you [TS]

  gesture with your hat they recognize [TS]

  that across cultures and I think across [TS]

  time that is the sign that like I am a [TS]

  civilized person and i'm here i'm happy [TS]

  i'm passing through your your time in [TS]

  place [TS]

  mhm but I'm not a monster i'm not [TS]

  someone who's hiding under this hat like [TS]

  the head comes off when it's time to [TS]

  interact and kind of puts me in mind of [TS]

  sunglasses a little bit because I think [TS]

  some of the same people who never take [TS]

  your hat off don't like to the sunglass [TS]

  is off i think it's because there's [TS]

  they're basically building up a little [TS]

  personal wall [TS]

  yeah and say they don't want to take the [TS]

  sunglasses up picking up your inside and [TS]

  you're wearing sunglasses like you [TS]

  better be Jackie Gleason here's a four [TS]

  people one who people who want a little [TS]

  wall around them here is a great [TS]

  solution stay in the bathroom at your [TS]

  house there's for your way there had all [TS]

  you what you can turn the sink on and [TS]

  get water you can poop and pee it goes [TS]

  away and don't fucking come out and deal [TS]

  with the rest of us like you don't get [TS]

  to come out this is the thing that I get [TS]

  that that ICS trending toward and this [TS]

  is going into the shoes here aren't we [TS]

  this is more true on the coast when it [TS]

  is in the middle of America for sure is [TS]

  that just taking shoes off on a plane [TS]

  that were headed [TS]

  well with out too but but but you know [TS]

  I'm talking now to the to the early [TS]

  adopters the technologists like your [TS]

  google glass also are you are not [TS]

  entitled to them you know you take them [TS]

  off as it not not because of anything [TS]

  not because anything you just take them [TS]

  off out of just a good old-fashioned [TS]

  respect you you shouldn't need a reason [TS]

  you don't need a reason and and to sit [TS]

  and give me a list of 25 reasons why you [TS]

  need them on it there those are 25 those [TS]

  are 25 bullet points about what a [TS]

  bullshitter you are you know take that [TS]

  shit off and take your headphones off [TS]

  and take and stop you know like when [TS]

  you're interacting with people when you [TS]

  walk into a room for the first time when [TS]

  you meet somebody for the first time [TS]

  when you're sharing a public conveyance [TS]

  with somebody be conscious of the fact [TS]

  that your little bubble is not you know [TS]

  it your little bubble is rude basically [TS]

  and and you should every time you walk [TS]

  out of the house in your little bubble [TS]

  you should be conscious of the fact that [TS]

  it is rude and the rest of us are [TS]

  allowing for it because maybe you're out [TS]

  for a jog or maybe you're working on a [TS]

  big presentation you know like we allow [TS]

  you to be in your bubble to a certain [TS]

  extent who but your responsibility is to [TS]

  recognize that that is not your [TS]

  entitlement all the time and you don't [TS]

  get to be in a bubble out [TS]

  in our world sharing our fucking world [TS]

  with us and also be in your bubble [TS]

  it's like not I i went into a cafe today [TS]

  and there was a guy there my age in [TS]

  Moscow it's like we're in a where [TS]

  top-to-bottom hipster clothes I was like [TS]

  I you know I want I saw him through the [TS]

  glass and I was like hey there's a guy [TS]

  that I might be able to have an [TS]

  interesting conversation about Hitler [TS]

  with and I walk in and then all of a [TS]

  sudden he's talking into his phone he's [TS]

  the loudest thing in the room there's 40 [TS]

  people in this cafe and he's saying well [TS]

  I told him that we wouldn't be able to [TS]

  you know get the the the Johnson [TS]

  contracts until we had the you know the [TS]

  the pipefitters union and I'm just like [TS]

  are you kidding me [TS]

  I I like your glasses i go as far as to [TS]

  like your glasses and your this is how [TS]

  you repay me [TS]

  you know this is an old well this is [TS]

  this is etiquette from another age mean [TS]

  about 20 years ago but if i get a phone [TS]

  call I still walk outside i leave the [TS]

  table if I have to take him lightly on [TS]

  the table usually go outside to talk you [TS]

  certainly don't stand in line in a place [TS]

  and then talk to a spa one who is [TS]

  serving you while you're talking into a [TS]

  phone like I am I should carry you know [TS]

  that you know when you go to truck stops [TS]

  and they have those little baseball bats [TS]

  to to check tire pressure on big rigs [TS]

  yes there and all the truck stops and [TS]

  across America that sir that is your [TS]

  actual truckers is an etiquette baton [TS]

  for you you should just carry the one of [TS]

  these little tire thumpers just like the [TS]

  phone out of there and nobody either not [TS]

  the fun out of their hands or just [TS]

  walking on the side of the knee [TS]

  Wow and then oh shit I'm next in line [TS]

  the guys down there yelling into his [TS]

  phone call the police [TS]

  you know you love your home your are [TS]

  chrome drawings on like society falling [TS]

  apart i I've seen this one with the [TS]

  evolution of the headphones where you [TS]

  know for a long time you know it was it [TS]

  was kind of weird to like be somebody [TS]

  listening to a walk maybe I I do it all [TS]

  the time listen to podcasts all the time [TS]

  when I walked [TS]

  around on the street but you know I i do [TS]

  have a thing I do wear like as soon as i [TS]

  get in line [TS]

  uh I tend to want to take off my [TS]

  headphones because I I feel like I'm [TS]

  already engaged in a process here so I [TS]

  mean I don't get too far into this but [TS]

  there is a chilling vision here so on [TS]

  the one hand you got the guy you got the [TS]

  guy who takes his headphones off which [TS]

  is hopefully us then you got the guy who [TS]

  doesn't do the dish thing where they [TS]

  leave one headphone in and talk to you [TS]

  about the other one in their hand like a [TS]

  petunia mother talking to you huh [TS]

  right but there will be something I seat [TS]

  why someone that is chilling to me which [TS]

  is somebody somebody walking up in the [TS]

  coffee place with their headphones on [TS]

  and the person at the counter at the [TS]

  cash register the barista also has fucks [TS]

  you start to think this is like [TS]

  something out of philip k dick this is [TS]

  this cannot end well I and I you know I [TS]

  remember for a while there maybe it was [TS]

  only in skymall but there were there [TS]

  they were selling a little like um [TS]

  universal television remote we can shut [TS]

  off the TV you can shut off the TV and [TS]

  public places if you have this thing and [TS]

  I always I always thought about getting [TS]

  it but it felt like I had to balance my [TS]

  desire to have that thing against my [TS]

  maybe stronger desire never to carry [TS]

  around a thing you know now I don't [TS]

  carry around a bunch of gizmos and the [TS]

  last thing I wanted was a was like an [TS]

  asshole gizmo like this but if I was a [TS]

  good if I was a guy that was that was [TS]

  carrying a bunch of stuff anyway I would [TS]

  love to have a thing that turns TV's off [TS]

  da we'll see i have mixed feelings on [TS]

  that because i will just the small the [TS]

  small feeling is that that's a dick move [TS]

  to do that that's not your place but my [TS]

  much huger feeling is Jesus Christ why [TS]

  is Fox News and CNN and sports well what [TS]

  does that have to be on in every [TS]

  restaurant why does it have to be on in [TS]

  every Airport I think it's partly [TS]

  because men in particular are terrified [TS]

  of being alone with your thoughts [TS]

  yeah but I swear now as long as we're [TS]

  coming up with the new can and i think [TS]

  one of them is like just shut that shit [TS]

  off like if it's not if it's a baseball [TS]

  game you really want to watch have it on [TS]

  in your restaurant but like no remodel [TS]

  in our city is complete until two tvs [TS]

  have been added [TS]

  yeah right and it's a man and I don't [TS]

  think it's a problem of [TS]

  like TV it's a problem of like [TS]

  proliferation of town they got bathrooms [TS]

  too but they have doors [TS]

  yeah there's tvs you know like if you're [TS]

  if you have a place there should be a TV [TS]

  over in a TV place and there should be [TS]

  seats arranged that are facing the TV [TS]

  not a bar where seats are arranged as [TS]

  though people are going to be talking to [TS]

  each other and then TVs on every flat [TS]

  surface where you have to swivel your [TS]

  chair around two to see what the person [TS]

  you're talking to is looking at but also [TS]

  in airports TVs every three feet like [TS]

  there should be a TV lounge in the [TS]

  airport if you want to go watch TV [TS]

  should be like the milking we should [TS]

  have a TV area [TS]

  yeah the rest of the space should be [TS]

  bullshit because that be particularly [TS]

  airports where they turn the volume on [TS]

  it's like I'm already my mind is already [TS]

  cluttered with travel thinking with like [TS]

  like flying thinking with I mean I'm [TS]

  trying to get my bags and my tickets and [TS]

  I'm trying to go up to the counter and [TS]

  talk to the woman about maybe i can get [TS]

  an upgrade and CNN is yelling at me [TS]

  about Ebola like right in my face and [TS]

  right in my ear it's it is it's [TS]

  profoundly rude and intrusive and it is [TS]

  perceived to be a a bonus right the [TS]

  airports are putting those in there [TS]

  because they're like look what we're [TS]

  doing for you [TS]

  everybody look at this amazing thing [TS]

  that we're doing we're giving you this [TS]

  opportunity and it and it it speaks to [TS]

  like the degradation of public space the [TS]

  degradation of of the idea that we [TS]

  should ever be alone with our thoughts [TS]

  or have have a moment of quiet [TS]

  reflection I mean with 20 years ago I [TS]

  was a member of a little group of people [TS]

  here in Seattle who late at night [TS]

  periodically would go climb and alter [TS]

  billboards we had a little billboard [TS]

  altering gang and we did some I think [TS]

  some pretty great work it was it was [TS]

  only a couple years and we probably [TS]

  altered all together maybe 15 20 [TS]

  billboards and we would target [TS]

  you know those the really graphic [TS]

  anti-abortion ones or the you know the [TS]

  real like competence and compensatory [TS]

  jacked-up truck ones or you know like we [TS]

  do and we would we would make a good [TS]

  joke and they would get in the newspaper [TS]

  and we had a good time wearing masks and [TS]

  feeling like we were kind of banksy [TS]

  before there was a banksy but really the [TS]

  the argument was that these billboards [TS]

  that billboards are things that give you [TS]

  no choice [TS]

  like whoever owned the space the air [TS]

  space on the roof of the building sold [TS]

  it to somebody who put up this big big [TS]

  picture that you have no choice but to [TS]

  look at right and as billboards [TS]

  proliferate we all get used to the idea [TS]

  that and and we all just sort of tassili [TS]

  except that the notion that you should [TS]

  not be able to just look around your [TS]

  town without people shouting at you to [TS]

  buy things and when you really start to [TS]

  look at billboards in your town and and [TS]

  as you're driving down the road it [TS]

  becomes like well i grossly offensive [TS]

  that your eyes which you need to have [TS]

  open in order to walk or drive your your [TS]

  eyes then our targeted everywhere you [TS]

  look [TS]

  look [TS]

  by people who have no more right to do [TS]

  it than just that they own or think they [TS]

  owned or rented the you know the space [TS]

  where the feet of the Billboard are [TS]

  right there's no there's no set we don't [TS]

  have a cent in our culture of like [TS]

  renting the the space internationally on [TS]

  cubic inches of sky right and there but [TS]

  they are renting space in our minds you [TS]

  know and it's space that they did that [TS]

  they're not entitled to just because [TS]

  they can we hit because they own the 23 [TS]

  square feet where the foot of the [TS]

  Billboard goes doesn't mean that they [TS]

  own this like this real estate in my in [TS]

  it like in my innocence in a way the [TS]

  real estate of of just the innocence of [TS]

  walking around with your eyes open and [TS]

  we have become I mean 20 years ago it [TS]

  seemed like we could still mount a [TS]

  resistance to billboards proliferating [TS]

  but now we're on the other side of that [TS]

  and we because we accepted that because [TS]

  we accepted years and years and years [TS]

  ago decades before this idea of the [TS]

  Billboard now our online life is just is [TS]

  just billboards and everywhere you look [TS]

  you have no you have no I innocence [TS]

  anymore [TS]

  somebody's trying to get in there every [TS]

  up every chance i get inside think about [TS]

  laying around the plane like even like [TS]

  on virgin america they show the safety [TS]

  video and then you have to sit there and [TS]

  watch a commercial or three that you can [TS]

  turn off that's about a foot and a half [TS]

  from your face and and when I when they [TS]

  first started doing that i would i would [TS]

  flag the stewardess down and i would say [TS]

  to have a piece of tape [TS]

  yeah and they would always kind of sales [TS]

  i think so and they come back to the [TS]

  pi├Ęce de ballet she always carry a [TS]

  first ape tape a piece of paper over my [TS]

  TV screen because i was so I was so [TS]

  offended by actually the original one [TS]

  was when it was it was just liquid [TS]

  crystal on the back you can get when [TS]

  they first had phones in the background [TS]

  airplane seats and then they realized [TS]

  that that little liquid crystal display [TS]

  could they could program it just to to [TS]

  try and sell you a mastercard or [TS]

  something i would take my piece of paper [TS]

  over there and then everybody looked at [TS]

  me like I was wearing a tinfoil hat it's [TS]

  like no I just this thing is this little [TS]

  thing is yelling at me and it's [TS]

  programmed to flash in such a way that I [TS]

  keep looking at it and like you say it's [TS]

  one foot in front of my face and I [TS]

  already paid four hundred dollars for [TS]

  this chair anything about the airports [TS]

  that drives me crazy there's all this [TS]

  you know obviously there's all the [TS]

  security theater stuff you know with TSA [TS]

  when there's all of these so you going [TS]

  to sit down you're trying desperately to [TS]

  find out if there's anything that's [TS]

  changed with your flight so you gotta [TS]

  kind of had listened with half an ear to [TS]

  find out what's happening with your [TS]

  flight and you got here everybody else's [TS]

  flights which is fine you got here CNN [TS]

  and fox which are blaring and then here [TS]

  the Robo announcements with the [TS]

  extremely important security information [TS]

  about not leaving your bags unattended [TS]

  like is there anybody who's going to [TS]

  process that every time it comes on its [TS]

  it's just interesting nobody fucking [TS]

  cares it's just a drone [TS]

  yeah that the airport's I i flew [TS]

  frontier this last time when i flew out [TS]

  to Massachusetts or I didn't actually [TS]

  fly frontier here's what happened [TS]

  I had a ticket on front here and i [TS]

  missed the flight because that's [TS]

  apparently something that starts to [TS]

  happen to you when you're in your [TS]

  forties I've never missed a flight [TS]

  before before the last two years and in [TS]

  the last two years I've missed [TS]

  I don't know three four flights that [TS]

  your final family right [TS]

  yeah but like we're over getting you [TS]

  know work getting some supplies and [TS]

  going potty and then we get to the gate [TS]

  and they close the door because they [TS]

  close their 15 minutes before now anyway [TS]

  I missed the flight on frontier and I [TS]

  was like well that sucks let's try and [TS]

  get us on another flight [TS]

  and frontiers a discount airline and [TS]

  they don't and part of how they are they [TS]

  achieved the discount is that they don't [TS]

  partner with other airlines and they [TS]

  don't they don't think they can't they [TS]

  can't and talk to their friends at delta [TS]

  and work out a trade for people who need [TS]

  to get similar right and they don't fly [TS]

  to a lot of places they just have a [TS]

  small and I was like okay I mean I i'm [TS]

  flying a discount airline this is this [TS]

  was an experiment and now I see like [TS]

  what kind of what the problem is like [TS]

  yeah they can helps get me on a delta or [TS]

  alaska flight because because they just [TS]

  don't have the the most amazing thing [TS]

  happened which was frontier airline did [TS]

  not have another flight coming in or [TS]

  going out for several hours and everyone [TS]

  who worked for frontier in that airport [TS]

  disappeared [TS]

  you got you got a real knack for that [TS]

  and I went through security to go back [TS]

  out to the counter and there was no one [TS]

  there and I said to the woman at the [TS]

  jetblue counter next to the next door I [TS]

  said what what do you do in this [TS]

  situation she said well they just go [TS]

  away and then they come back in four [TS]

  hours and you can go pound on that door [TS]

  I've done a million times like makin [TS]

  clock out because there it is not their [TS]

  time or something so I called frontier [TS]

  on the phone it was like hey I've got a [TS]

  I've got a problem and I need to resolve [TS]

  it and they were like yeah you have to [TS]

  resolve that the airport and no one will [TS]

  be there until five or something and and [TS]

  it was i mean i i've complained about [TS]

  having this same experience with the [TS]

  United the one of the hugest airlines in [TS]

  the world where if they're not actively [TS]

  doing something they're not paying that [TS]

  one person anymore to just stay at the [TS]

  counter all day in case somebody needs [TS]

  help you know you had a really a [TS]

  horrifying anecdote about the time where [TS]

  something got messed up was the one [TS]

  flight out of Washington with your [TS]

  family that day was the one way and you [TS]

  couldn't find anybody in the whole joint [TS]

  in the whole airport and then find the [TS]

  person with the juice as you say yeah [TS]

  where there's you know where there [TS]

  and-and-and this idea that this is this [TS]

  is where we [TS]

  now in a in a state where every you know [TS]

  you call it I call upon the phone and [TS]

  the first thing the recording says is [TS]

  probably you'll have better luck if you [TS]

  go to our website or and every you know [TS]

  the the machine is pushing for these [TS]

  efficiencies like direct everybody the [TS]

  website direct everybody the website [TS]

  cost us a lot of money to have somebody [TS]

  talk to them on the phone it's like [TS]

  really does it cost a lot of money [TS]

  I mean you're a billion-dollar company [TS]

  is it really that much money to have [TS]

  somebody on the phone is it that much [TS]

  money to pay somebody is just to pay one [TS]

  extra person to just work the counter [TS]

  and you know these are companies where [TS]

  the CEO is flying back and forth across [TS]

  the country probably in a giant airplane [TS]

  six times a day because at the corporate [TS]

  offices in minneapolis they're out of [TS]

  coffee filters and so it's like oh well [TS]

  shit you know we've got coffee filters [TS]

  in the warehouse here in san jose I'll [TS]

  just fly out there i had to sharpen some [TS]

  pencils anyway in minneapolis you know [TS]

  it'll be a twofer [TS]

  but but their cost savings are at the [TS]

  level of well we can't have real people [TS]

  anymore [TS]

  do any of the any of the jobs where [TS]

  they're interacting with real people and [TS]

  it you know and then all it takes is [TS]

  that that person has their headphones on [TS]

  and we have and we have finally arrived [TS]

  we finally arrived at the at the moment [TS]

  we're super train is necessary there the [TS]

  sitting there sitting there listen to [TS]

  their MGMT remix I'm just I'm just [TS]

  waiting [TS]

  it is an airport that's incidentally [TS]

  every young person I talked to author in [TS]

  the entire trip across the country which [TS]

  was which was numerable people under the [TS]

  age of about twenty-five they're all [TS]

  listening to the electronic dance music [TS]

  nobody listens two guitars anymore no [TS]

  brother everywhere across the country [TS]

  it's the one thing that unites us m p.m. [TS]

  they call it seats more money back back [TS]

  back back to get to get through to em [TS]

  fuckin America [TS]

  ah you know why i am and i frequently [TS]

  have to pee really bad i frequently a [TS]

  come back to something you said in the [TS]

  midst of that epic rant about the [TS]

  airport which is that I don't know I'm [TS]

  just repeating what you said but it's [TS]

  interesting to mean your point about [TS]

  like on the one hand yes you have to [TS]

  find somebody who can get you the juice [TS]

  like that obviously there's not a [TS]

  channel there's nowhere to go and pick [TS]

  up a phone tell them you're boarding [TS]

  code or whatever and have them fix it [TS]

  there's no infrastructure for that [TS]

  so first we gotta find somebody then you [TS]

  gotta find somebody who can do something [TS]

  about it something do something about it [TS]

  you gotta find somebody who can do [TS]

  something that will do something about [TS]

  it and so primarily as you said this [TS]

  really you have a question our map we [TS]

  have to make them like you now you have [TS]

  to you have to be put differently [TS]

  you have to be a likable victim in order [TS]

  to get anything so with this frontier [TS]

  thing I what happened was my bags were [TS]

  on the flight my bags went to Cleveland [TS]

  Christ and I ended up buying tickets on [TS]

  Alaska and flew us to Boston and we [TS]

  didn't get to Cleveland for three days [TS]

  and our bags were there but as I'm [TS]

  sitting in the airport in seattle i [TS]

  don't know that my bags are on the way [TS]

  to Cleveland no one's told me that I [TS]

  think maybe my bags were taken off the [TS]

  plane because they used to threaten to [TS]

  do that if you didn't get on the plane [TS]

  they would take your bags off so i was [TS]

  about to get on a flight to boston and i [TS]

  was afraid my bags were downstairs [TS]

  somewhere and I couldn't find a frontier [TS]

  employee I hate this feeling [TS]

  so I called the I called the number and [TS]

  the first woman i got said well there's [TS]

  nothing we can do there has to be [TS]

  somebody there the airport and they [TS]

  won't be there too [TS]

  three so I don't know what I'm sorry and [TS]

  I hope I hung up the phone with her and [TS]

  I ran around the airport for an hour [TS]

  trying to talk to somebody and I talk to [TS]

  somebody in Alaska and I talk to [TS]

  somebody down in the baggage area nobody [TS]

  could help me so I call that same number [TS]

  back and I got a different woman and she [TS]

  said well uh let me call let me try and [TS]

  call the baggage people and she called [TS]

  nobody answered [TS]

  she's like this is something that's [TS]

  never happened before the things i don't [TS]

  remember me but like it drives me [TS]

  fucking crazy when it's like if there [TS]

  was an actual emergency here [TS]

  how would you handle this because this [TS]

  is like a sandwich shop where you've [TS]

  never actually made food like everything [TS]

  that you're showing an emergency to me [TS]

  sure but I mean like if they said we've [TS]

  got reasonable reason to believe that [TS]

  there's somebody who left a bag behind [TS]

  you know who's trying to blow the shit [TS]

  up [TS]

  I'm just saying like it's it really [TS]

  feels like no like I have this thing [TS]

  that feels like this must happen at you [TS]

  know a dozen times a week and we're [TS]

  treating this like this incredibly weird [TS]

  edge case that's no you got it all down [TS]

  to baggage like it's not a big deal [TS]

  and so I said to her like well I mean uh [TS]

  Oh what where is the bag likely to be [TS]

  and she was like well I just can't say i [TS]

  don't know it's so so many places it [TS]

  could be John and I was like well is [TS]

  there a way to uh I mean is there [TS]

  somebody that i can i'm about to get on [TS]

  another airplane is there somebody I can [TS]

  leave a message for know there's really [TS]

  not you're just gonna have to call back [TS]

  when the offices open at six and so I [TS]

  hang up and i'm walking around in that [TS]

  state of like panicky angry I've gotta [TS]

  go through security again to meet my [TS]

  family on the other side to get on a [TS]

  different airplane and i'm about to get [TS]

  on a plane and just my bag is just in [TS]

  who-knows-where so last-ditch effort i [TS]

  call the same number again and the thing [TS]

  is you get the original operator and [TS]

  then you have to go through the voice [TS]

  mail where it's like you should try our [TS]

  website [TS]

  yeah and then jail you say operator and [TS]

  it goes I think you're asking to see the [TS]

  talk to an operator but maybe you can [TS]

  give me just a little more information [TS]

  operator you know so then you get the [TS]

  operator and then you say can you [TS]

  connect me with the baggage woman and [TS]

  then they make that so each time it [TS]

  takes five minutes to get to a person [TS]

  it sounds like you're trying to fight [TS]

  back [TS]

  yeah the third time up a woman answers [TS]

  the phone and I'm like hey here's my [TS]

  situation she goes out all right we'll [TS]

  hang on give me the number on your [TS]

  ticket and this is the first time [TS]

  anybody's ask me for this [TS]

  and so I was like huh oh yeah here's the [TS]

  number on the ticket [TS]

  she was like okay is there you have a [TS]

  baggage number i was like to hear ya i [TS]

  do here's the baggage number nobody's [TS]

  asked me for this [TS]

  she's like okay well you're just you [TS]

  keep this seems so sensible you're [TS]

  bracing for what's going to go horribly [TS]

  wrong [TS]

  yeah and then she goes oh i see here [TS]

  that the bags made it on the flight and [TS]

  they'll be in cleveland and I was like [TS]

  how did you have access to that [TS]

  information and your co-workers two of [TS]

  whom I've spoken to that neither one of [TS]

  them and and I could what it was i could [TS]

  hear in her voice the voice of [TS]

  experience right [TS]

  this woman was someone who's worked here [TS]

  for a while with a sheet with presumably [TS]

  the same equipment and nominally the [TS]

  same experience she was able to do [TS]

  something the other person just simply [TS]

  didn't think was possible right and she [TS]

  did it effortlessly and I was like [TS]

  that's heroin to think about [TS]

  yeah there could be somebody there who [TS]

  doesn't even know if this is possible to [TS]

  do while there are other people who can [TS]

  just do it that's that's pretty scary in [TS]

  an era an industry that is with safety [TS]

  and confidence is that important well [TS]

  and this is true i mean i don't know if [TS]

  you've ever called trip away from the [TS]

  side of the road running out of gas or [TS]

  in an accident or something but when you [TS]

  call triple-a triple-a is an amazing [TS]

  company and and they have saved my ass a [TS]

  million times but when you call triple-a [TS]

  there is a one-in-four chance that the [TS]

  person that answers the phone will be [TS]

  able to actually help you [TS]

  the other three times you you are [TS]

  talking to somebody who is reading from [TS]

  a script and you say listen I'm at the [TS]

  on the side of the road I'm by exit 124 [TS]

  westbound and I need a tow truck and [TS]

  they're like okay so can you tell me if [TS]

  you are near an exit [TS]

  oh yeah you go yeah i just said I'm an [TS]

  extra 24 westbound I need a tow truck [TS]

  and they're like okay here Matt right [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  have you tried to turn the key in the [TS]

  car and you're just like oh my fucking [TS]

  god and then when you get somebody a [TS]

  triple [TS]

  who has been there for a while they're [TS]

  like okay great trucks on the way [TS]

  yeah and so anyway this situation in [TS]

  frontier I was like so you're telling me [TS]

  that the bag is on its way to Cleveland [TS]

  she's like yeah it's on its way to [TS]

  Cleveland and I say well what do i do [TS]

  and she says here's the number of the [TS]

  baggage handlers in Cleveland I'm gonna [TS]

  send an email to them right now [TS]

  flagging those bags and when you get [TS]

  somewhere call them and and uh and [TS]

  they'll probably have your bags set [TS]

  aside and I was like whoa why didn't [TS]

  this happen in our call like an hour of [TS]

  my life it's like magic and you just [TS]

  didn't and you just and it was like that [TS]

  was the whole time is that's what i was [TS]

  thinking to myself why don't they have [TS]

  widened why isn't this possible why that [TS]

  like you say this must happen all the [TS]

  time [TS]

  why isn't the first person that you call [TS]

  able to do this and then it turns out [TS]

  they are they were able they just you [TS]

  just didn't find the person with the [TS]

  juice who was willing to do it and that [TS]

  is that's a crazy business model and its [TS]

  and it feels like it's in its nationwide [TS]

  it's a nationwide anytime you're dealing [TS]

  with the big company now it's just like [TS]

  I'm sorry this pepper [TS]

  re oh you're on fire somewhere and your [TS]

  children are dying [TS]

  oh well how are you near an exit just [TS]

  like try turning the fire off and back [TS]

  on haha [TS]

  ok really gotta pee [TS]

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