00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► sponsored by threes threes is a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► you can play it forever and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/6">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► always be in your pocket learn more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/7">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► about three by searching your app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/9">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/19">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► it's going to be upbeat episode of saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/30">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► you're in the universe contingent on us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/32">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► um i am wearing my wall pants today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► nice and it is nice except you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► first day that you put on the wall pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/44">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► you really have to get used to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► appealing scratchy yeah i just said it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► no these are old and they're just full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/55">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► they just took the sheet basically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► and editor took the insides out and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/62">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► right make condoms and pants and uhhh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► yeah it feels good it feels good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► winter to be here and for it to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► time to get down to the nitty-gritty I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/75">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► want some different pants today to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► to mix it up a little bit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/81">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► different different pair of Levi's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► mean or well yeah different pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/85">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► brattiest pair that i own and I wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► them probably once a quarter because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► I see somebody from my child's school on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► the street it leaves an impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► OIC already won Miami ding-dong falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► out so I can't wear those varieties are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► you i know you know the wear patterns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► every man has different wear patterns on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► yeah but you have very different very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/111">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► distinctive wear patterns on your pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► well I know what you're thinking of go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► ahead because I'm doing because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► well the phone but also you carry uh are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► you at least you used to carry your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/121">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► remember that and the space pen leaves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► lead you know over time you have a BF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/128">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► like a a war a worn a Warren space pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/132">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► yeah yeah that's mostly from yes you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► a hundred percent correct time I wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► patterns are that's a classic I I now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► carry a different kind of pen when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► carry a pan so it doesn't leave the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/147">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► little bit right exactly the shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/148">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► of the space pen in my right pocket and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/152">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► then of course that starts out just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/155">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► leaving shape then it leaves a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► shadow and then of course you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► we're so right then it's like it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► ok here's I if there's one thing to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► away from this episode today and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/165">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► you cannot lie to your pants your pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► know the truth about you boy that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► truth so many ways today now i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► very very clear outline of an iphone 5s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► oh I say pocket right yet but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► but it's a.m. and we want to even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► into more unsavory ways that your jeans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► tell the story but they can trip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► Germany tobacco back-in-the-day sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► yeah and did you ever have a you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► read me like a oh gosh yes I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► think that you could actually probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► go to county seat and by a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► fake school can you can wash in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► laundry just to get the ring for have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/202">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► remember at other I'm not proud of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► but it but at a certain point I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► opposed to chewing tobacco when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► my young teens because a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/213">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► friends dude in school don't you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► about stuff I'm talking about yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/219">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► copenhagen snuff yeah as opposed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/222">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► red man like they want to read man no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► and Anna mean it was there was a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► at the time pretty clear divide between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/230">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► like guys that should skull who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/231">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► yeah and guys that should cope who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► like a good normals or redness off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► regard yeah you know who stuffs and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► was before the advent of all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► kinds of of snuff there was no Kodiak at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► the time now they get eaten get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► hot-ass new yeah I've seen that my dish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► well now I guess there it was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► some people actually called it's new you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/259">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► yes I was probably a grassroots think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/263">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► I'm not trying to derail you i type this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► it was a very real thing well it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► very real in in Alaska to and Iraq so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► was opposed to chewing and I would and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► was I was kind of a like a you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► you can believe this i would Hector my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► and lecture them about what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/282">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► doing wrong while you were just crossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► over for a young age I can't who wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► to make women be chased man you an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► what he was doing in between your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► wisdom that's right and so I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► you guys cheering tobacco's is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► I you know I disapprove of you sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► in the back glass and spitting to into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► cocaine and I had enough I had enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► leverage with them not leverage but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► like you know that they would they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► try and conceal their chewing from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► but you can't conceal that from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► friend but I I really envied the two can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► ring in the back pockets of their genes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► it just said so much you know i mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/325">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► signification and so I started carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► a toucan as a little wallet as a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/334">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► like Dimebag yeah i would get a life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► yeah i would put shit in an old shoe can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► that my friend kevin gave me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► washed it out and then I would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► I'd fold up my money and and notes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/353">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► whatever and I mean you couldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► couldn't use it as a wallet because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► couldn't put an idea in it but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► know I I did for a while I carried it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► around as a little pouch and then I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► started chewing tobacco and and the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► I get down you know we talked before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/371">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► about the other kind of wallet that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/376">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► carry because people care it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► those little taxi taxi driver wallets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► which is not a super thin wallet but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► really works for me it folds in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► like a billfold it's got a little class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► breaking point of cars inside very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► clear outline including down to we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► see the snap where the snap is iike area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► taxi well to that I originally there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/396">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► like that that use this one your I gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/400">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► yeah so you gave it to mom she gave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► no I did that I don't know either she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► was like I don't know why miss Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/410">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► gave me a man's wallet but would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► yeah true and i warn't until it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► until so that it would it came apart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► then I was at the thrift store and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► Wow an identical one to the 1i had I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► I was you know I was fixing it with tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► by that point and i found what i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► just like mom and I actually had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/432">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► oh man she was like she kind of was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► standing there at the same time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► picked it up and I was like check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/439">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► and she was like I was just about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► pick that up I was like really you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► about to pick it up and frog had wings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► you wouldn't doubt that'll happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► that's a I don't know about that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► to pick it up and we SAT and talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► about it for a while I don't interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► and legally for that John she was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► want you to have it was like are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► um here's what I want to get to and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► so there's all the stuff that goes on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► the in the belt area that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► going to get into but I this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► thing is so strange to me is the wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► patterns any season shoes I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► see this in pants I guess if you weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► long enough you see this in a jacket but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► two very distinct asymmetrical wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/479">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► patterns so I mean I guess maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► kind of obvious you have this with shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► because we all like whatever pronator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► we've got some kind of imbalance I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/489">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► sure chiropractor could give you some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► kind of massage for this but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► youryour to shoot you go grab go grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► four five pairs of shoes you have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► that you only have had for a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► flip over and it's remarkable that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► wear patterns on the bottom now for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► that's the knees on the jeans that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► cannot i don't know why I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► it maybe I figured out but it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► strange to me that genes that I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/511">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► ah one knee always starts to wear before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► the other and the other knee then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/518">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► consequently blows out for the other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► gets bigger hole I'll be right for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► you don't talking about I do and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► this on cuffs you'll notice this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► elbows it's really interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► sherlock holmes probably well obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/531">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► you're a Scrivener yeah rights right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► remember genuflecting I don't genuflect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/535">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► I don't know you're a mincer you mince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► around you know it well maybe not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► but a certain certain type of person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► minutes i think i doing a very masculine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► way yeah it's a masculine mincing but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► still wear your jeans differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► yeah I sometimes will as I'm walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/551">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► around i wasn't i was in a mall the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► other day which is not that's not what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► want to be but as I had to go from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► into the most of the others a long trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► across the mall and I'm so as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► walking I was consciously trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/569">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► I was like you didn't spy thing well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► was point you know I I think I I walk a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► little splayed and I was I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► if you ever try this but without looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/586">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► particularly if you walks played without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► looking your feet you point your toes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► and imagine that you are walking sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► pigeon-toed and then you look down at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/599">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► they're not even pointing straight right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► i mean it's so unfamiliar to walk with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► your feet pointing straight and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► the everything up and down like you your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► hips feel different your whole body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► feels different and when I was walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/618">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► across Europe but i would do that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► days at a time just be very conscious of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► like I'm just pointing my toes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► direction that I'm traveling and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/625">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► still do it sometimes as a way of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► know a similar type of thing you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► the bottoms of your shoes and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/634">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► like wow like I'm wearing these shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► and such a weird fashion just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/637">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► start can I be doing it feels like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► taking a step in another step and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/643">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► everything is equal in normal i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► you know averaging out every so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► years you wouldn't say I'm taking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/648">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► many more right turns and left turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► frames really strange and yet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► there you are because we are all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► flopping around like nowhere as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► metrical I don't want to begin to death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► it's the lack of symmetry it's it's own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► is speaking of malls and essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► something in the in the robot can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► that and you let me see let me see one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► here especially i'm curious to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/669">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► thoughts on this as somebody who follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► people be the trends in technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► naps and tell her that you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► yeah let's see i see so app trends here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► not let go it is that should be a blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► thing and they do ya think it's okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► it's a link to come from grippy yep so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► my daughter and I would see a movie the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► downtown and you know it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► actually it's a kind of a fancy it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► fancy mall downtown like it's a dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/696">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► hang on hang on saving go ahead and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► mmm yeah so you get so fancy that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► can get off the subway at palace street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► and actually walk in 2000 you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► have to go outside westfield center and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► and so we gots one of my favorite place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► to see movies they've got good seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/717">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► they got great food is a great food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► court and it's a great daddy daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► day place to count and one of our stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► has always been this thing that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► course used to be a barnes and noble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► then after it wasn't a barnes and noble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► like all places it became a remainder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► bookstore right that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► Destiny the destiny every barnes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► noble will ironically enough become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► remainder bookstore then they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► adding toys to it so is this great place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► where you can go and you like to dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/741">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► books puzzles doctor who figures it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► well I'm story short we show how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/746">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► something new is moving in it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/751">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► a barnes and noble then it was a no-name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► remainder book and toy store now John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► something new and there's a new thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► ah i think a photo of this it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/763">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► those things you see in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/766">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► window where something is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► built something you'd be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/769">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► talking about it so you know where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► block off the block off the store as its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► as it's being developed but instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► just saying like coming soon and coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► casual corner right it's now it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► sort of a branding opportunity another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► yeah a newer branding opportunity so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► this goes across a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► storefront in front of you you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► big a Barnes & Noble is right yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► so i guess and they've chosen a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► gun gun metal gray battleship gray was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/796">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► sleekness and also forward forward pneus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► that was the color of my outie 5000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► coming on so envious yeah and all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/808">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► what it says I'd like if you don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/811">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► I'd like you're reading of the paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► but what it says is bespoke and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► very fancy looking sans-serif fonts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/817">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► underlying under the B&B spoke and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► describing what bespoke is or will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► would you mind sharing that with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► listeners I i was wondering about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► the underlying just one letter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► bespoke and then and I feel like without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► the underline it's possible that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► might look at that and say the spokie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/839">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► spokeo gorgeous bouquet I mean it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► best ok would have a little sante grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► whatever the SRX on Teague over the e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► but but without with no at with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► underlining your accent you could look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► at and say spoki right that's what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► you were an okie from Muskogee would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► the spokie was naturally ok and and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► with the but the underlying under the B [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► it makes you say be be you right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/868">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► yeah and then what are you gonna do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► usually if you're if you're if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► watching war games where you're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/879">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► some kind of eighties nineties computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► thriller you would send think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► that's a prompt sometimes i use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► blinking underline indicate a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/887">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► why do you have a prompt under the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► letter unless you are about to edit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► right you were about to delete it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► change it to peace pokey yeah but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► underneath now what what font is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► the underneath written it's sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► italic that looks kind of like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/902">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► fancy Georgia yeah okay and it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► nestled within the retail epicenter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/909">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► destination colon a community where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/916">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► digital innovators collide with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► world's greatest brands Ivan and dash M [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/924">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► dash for work and foreplay bomb and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/930">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► under that there's a graphic and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► sort of a flowchart right or what how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► it's three icons inside of circles on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► horizontal axis and the three icon three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► circles are connected for no apparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► reason by a line right so co-working and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► that's a what it's like he's on a pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► no I think that's a I think that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► a mac classic an apple mac classic color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/959">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► classic or maybe a lisa it could be i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► think its a Mac Alicia John in addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► to co-working either any other kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► things to do a bespoke soco working and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/969">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► microphone an unplugged microphone about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► it with but we can alert so it's a mic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/978">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► that it's like one of those mics you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► from radioshack that comes with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/983">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► hardwired cord like Bob Pollin Mike yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► and it's and it says events events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► events and then another line over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/989">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► some kind of a game controller that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► yeah see I don't even play games and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► can just tell from looking in that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► a it's a game with some kind its cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► that connects to something that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► think you would have had on most gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► systems in even the last three to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► it looks like an looks like some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► Epsom printer but John yeah sure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► whatever what is that indicates on tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► demo is Emma so you got a co-working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► offense and tech demos co-working events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► and tech demos at bespoke absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► the URL is at bespoke underscore SF that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► yeah I'm sorry shit we should we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► no I want people to go and look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► yeah I want I want them to I want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► to say like why we're getting a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► yeah that's where our numbers are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► going up and it's just people around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► well don't think I didn't go um nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► about how i went and check out the tooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► from bespoke SF um and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► pretty it's pretty inscrutable logitech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► most I don't know CA were shooting fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► in a barrel but you know it's it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► of hilarious that it used to be a barnes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► and noble thought about you like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► know back in the lets say by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► mid-nineties how about this when we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► a barnes and noble at the tallahassee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► nineteen ninety two or three whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► was the barnes and noble is expanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► that was the first starbucks i ever went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► to was a starbucks inside of a barnes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► and noble I mean that's how classy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► barnes and noble was Barnes & Noble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► alongside I guess borders the juggernaut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► you know what has been going on for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► while but this was probably like 50,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► square feet of store and occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► huge you don't remember that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► they were driving out all the elbow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► little children's book stores on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► I think sometimes they took over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► something like maybe it was like an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► grocery store like that be like a pantry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► pride type situation when the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► refurbished you get a point and noble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► you can't go in there you can buy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► can buy all kinds of value by playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► cards you can get coffee you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► Danish they have a giant periodical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► section of barnes and noble down our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► tanforan mall two stories including a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► giant toy section right and children's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► books and records they were someone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► stand right there is not a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► big-box bookstore in downtown San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► Francisco other thing is i would use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► go into those places and I would I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► didn't know what I didn't know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► weren't for me right they were not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► were not built for me I would walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► around and I would end up I will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► upstairs i would go downstairs I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► walk around walk around and eventually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► would buy a paperback copy of Plato's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► Republic just to give myself something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► to do and then I would you know give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► that to a homeless guy because i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► that that is that that plate it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► the path to recovery starts with Plato [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► and mashed potatoes but first I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► are you listening and their attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► get out until I would go away and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► wouldn't go back or you know everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► for everyone so why would buy one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► those artists models the little wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► articulated men puts it on the tables a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► present for creative people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► that's it on the end tables in the homes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► of interesting people i would buy one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► those and then give it as a gift that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► what I mean even I see I've always loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► just spending two hours in a store like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► that but what I will say no matter who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► you are it's great for Christmas gifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► because it is really sure if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► who you're buying for especially you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► find something for anybody there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► listen the other day I i was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► website called Instagram a web site okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► and I don't know if you are familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► with jet Jessica cowan lady who works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► for Squarespace our once and future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► sponsor who and she sent me and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► message on Squarespace is our on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► Instagram for Instagram website saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► there's a guy who is taking tintype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► photographs in your town today he's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► itinerant tintype ER traveling the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► with his giant camera doing real tintype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► photos and he and he's looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► local talent he's looking for talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► people to look old timey and so I went I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► so i contacted this guy was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► wanted type photograph and he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► come on down to seattle pioneer square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► and I got down there I expected him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► be wearing a a bowler hat and a mustache [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► but he was not he was wearing either and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► he was taking tintype photograph with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► this camera that he kind of built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► himself and he was using eat he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► using an alcove in a space that as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► looked around turned out to be one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► these co-working spaces right yeah have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► you ever been to one of these let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► about co-working yeah it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► co-working space it's like a floor of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► building and people are they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► yeah and so and there's a woman there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► who represents the co-working place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► she started and I was like tell me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► your co-working space and she started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► giving me this meal and this co-working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► space had something there was some angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► right where it was like where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► certainly telling me but I think also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► some aspect of their co-working space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► there was a public-interest angle where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► they were nonprofits or when i see they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► were they were trying to trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► the world a better place all doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► part there yet right but I I toward the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► space and it was full of people i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► every seat was taken and they were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► people on their laptops and I looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► their laptops and they all appear to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► using windows 95 and they were all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► don't know didn't say I didn't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► public interest work it's all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► seemed like people trying to polish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► their resumes or I'm not sure what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► of work was going on in there but i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► astonished that in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► afternoon that people would choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► pay to be in this environment and I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► photograph of myself and also a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► curiosity about this co-working movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► that was my first exposure to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► oh really but well I don't have I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► it's interact with people who work yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► it was just in the in the kind of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► guess I want to see in the tech world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► it's something that's really taken off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► over the years where you know for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► obvious economic reasons I mean let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► it's like having an office combined with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► having roommates like you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► need to go lease your own floor of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► office you don't have to go through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► all you really need is a desk somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► there's a bunch of places but wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► you just go to a cafe I guess is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► question and I think that's a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► question and that's that's why to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► to the cut to the chase to me that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► how I would ever work i would not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► any work done in a place like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► mean you know to me having an office is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► good and bad because I place to put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► my shit like that i like having all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► shit that's good but even if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► bring a laptop I cannot imagine a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► for distraction and unnecessary noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► and movement just in my head like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► meet the point of having a place to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► in this is it again just goes to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► how old I am is I I've had opportunities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► to go work at places in town where I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► gotten you know offers from really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► places like a writing desk your twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► at one point I almost got a place at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► I'll go to south park every day before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► got an office like five years ago six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► years ago when I think I saw like Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► Goldman there's like he's okay yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► got such up here and I was like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► really nice but boys and four laps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► know like 1,100 bucks a month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► no it wasn't that much now wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► good but it was it was you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► gonna come here break or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► anyway it would be really cool to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► at a you know one side all these cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► people but that to me people throwing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► there's music going on a 2 up to a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► they're all like you see me uniquely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► inappropriate for a large number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► people to be doing something quiet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► you notice that the I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► actually a lot of the time I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► environment like that i would just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► would be a personal challenge for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► try and distract everyone else as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► as I could like I would just go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► desk to desk and be like hey what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► so how long you been how long you been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► in Seattle and I would I just couldn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► wouldn't be there to work i would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► there to socialize and to meet these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► people and and find the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► things about them and and it just it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► you if you're going to work i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► think you would want to be in a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► seclusion but then that's my mind that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► the funny part is it's a kid's true both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► ways i would be equal online media equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► parts but depending on the day i went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► the one hand be probably pretty annoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► with how much movement activity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► noise there was because that's what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► is it's a bunch of people in a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► doing stuff while on the other hand I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► could just also see myself walking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► and stand by somebody's desk and talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► to him for two hours so maybe the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► I guess it works i guess it works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► some people but I said I i'm with you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► can see needing to get out of the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► wanting to get out of the house but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► not sure i understand how much more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► then I cafe and I have friends who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► tried to do podcasts inside a place like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► Wow which is like you know trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► like in the CNN NEWSROOM or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► well do you were so I was thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► this the other day when I was first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► starting on out in music in seattle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► biggest challenge that as I perceived it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► at the time was to find a space like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► practice like a shed that was the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► was the the biggest the biggest obstacle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► and i had a friend named Rhys Lamb who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► was a painter and reese was really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► at that he knew he knew all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► in the sort of up in underground seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► and i don't mean the where you go on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► tour of underground seattle but like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► knew all the people living in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► holes and recent always had a place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► paint because he every time you run into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► me be like oh yeah man i'm painting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► in this garage down in the ne you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► down in the central district i met a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► who really repairs old refrigerators or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► I met a guy that you know makes rubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► bands and he's got this space in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► corner of his plan that you'd go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► there and it would be an uninsulated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► corner of a steel frame building and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► rhys would be in there painting and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► and time again i would say hey you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► Reese like can you think of any place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► your network of spaces that would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► know that i could convert it to a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► practice base and he would get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► suspicious and you're like well man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► mean bands are so loud and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► he was afraid that if he hooked me up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► with some space and I turn it into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► band practice space it was just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► underground economy then somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► gonna be like what's that making all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► that noise over there and then you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► just a couple clicks out of a meth lab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► yeah there's not it's not good for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► environment to attract attention rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► band and then yeah then the cops come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► around and they're like we're just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► start busting all these old buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► and then the rubber band guys out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► work frigerator got a man it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► because of me that rubber band man is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► god that's a great song crazy wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► but i but but then so then there was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► know and they were always like shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► band practice basis but but it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► he had to know somebody they were always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► full to overflowing I couldn't find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► space and then my friend Peter took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► job as a custodian at a theater company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► that was occupying an old funeral home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► Wow Peter was there custodian in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► exchange for them letting him live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► one of the outbuildings which was a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► garage where they kept the hearses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► it was an onion uninsulated her sera JH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► well I understand this so he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► place to do is stuff and a place to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► mhm i got what can imagine being in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► early twenties and coming into something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► well I can't imagine the eighties movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► where you get to have an entire loft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► yourself for fifty dollars a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► oh my i was i was standing right next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► Peter when it happened I was like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► this is incredible you know let me help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► you fix this place up so Peter was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► pretty handy and we took the garage door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► off and we took it off we took all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► hardware off the garage door and built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► it so that it was just a wall it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► looked like a garage door but it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► that would have been my choice but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► was Peters idea and then we cut a door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► in the side and we found one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► old sort of patchwork metal doors from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► an industrial you know it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► leaning against side of a building and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► yeah it looks like a refrigerator like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► Yeah Yeah right we found one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► and and and and hung it in the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► this building and then we went in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► got a bunch of futons and drilled holes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► in the futons and put bolts and washers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► and then we could hang the futons over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► the windows and we found a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► insulation somewhere and and borrow a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► ladder and got up and insulated this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► whole building and it was like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► amazing space and i worked on it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► Peter for several months making it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► like the ultimate bachelor pad practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► space and it was a huge garage found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► some couches some carpets he was living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► there and he was a he was kind of an a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► tidy guy he would wake up in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► and make his bed and put some throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► pillows on it so it looks like a couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► I don't know what he thought he was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► never entertained indignantly just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► what he had he had a personal dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► that's right he was German and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► parents had like eight brothers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► sisters and he just he made his bed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► the morning but so then he put a bit he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► had a band i had a band and we started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► practicing in this space and right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► the relationship went started this hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► now and Peter was like you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► this is my house this is my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► you guys are practicing in and leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► your chook to spit cans lying around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► you're you know when you're your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► marijuana reefers and and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► what do you mean this is your house like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► this is the this is the fantasy we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► always had like it's a bit sup it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► yeah why would use ownership and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► something so cool that he's like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► club is not your Clubhouse it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► I was like you're getting this place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► free for like not even being a janitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► over at the theatre company anyway it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► got very contentious and and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► reflecting back on it I realized that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► was I was taken over i was taken over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► his his his private little space and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► I went over to the theater company and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► was like listen I'm not going to be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► janitor but he got he got a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► outbuildings here so i got a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► let me have one and A and they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► you know we do it we have this space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► over here that we were going to read to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► a guy who was a motorcycle repair guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► but if you're a band if your artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► like we're a theater company we are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► are promised on helping people make art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► and so they gave me this cinder block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► garage that you know was moldy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► covered with oil and I and my band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► having just helped Peter fix up his we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► spent three four months fixing up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► garage and we actually took the garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► door out and built a cinderblock wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► just a lot by the Richard Hugo house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► yeah wow that's so cool so the theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► company then sold itself to the Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2034">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► relationship with them i was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► grandfathered in and they were like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► would much rather use that space to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► literary arts but i suppose since you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► been here and you did all this work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► can continue to be a rock band there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► god this is like this is a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► century yeah and it is still a rock band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► space to this day it was handed down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► from us to a series of bands at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► thermalright somebody kind of super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► yeah there were there were there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► there were famous 'as there i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► various bands that that went in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► of that space that we're all connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► by sort of a family relationship to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► me 20 years before and I don't need your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► yeah I don't know who's in there now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► the Richard Hugo house just announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► that they sold the entire quarter of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► block all of the outbuildings in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► funeral home and everything to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► developers who are going to put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► tower condo tower all really it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► going to get all going to go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► all the all the history all the blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► and sweat and songs and marijuana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► reefers reefers & Peters Peters Peters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► throwing bullets Peters lost the youth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► and my lost youth and the the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► performance ever of unsalted butter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► it's all just going to get back hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► into the basement of a of some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► yeah that's right now I'm Sean well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► know I guess good for Richard Hugo house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► I mean that their margins probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► pretty thin they probably don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► probably don't get a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► pounding in there like that show me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► well you know the story of the Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► you go house was thank you i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► but I you know he's my second favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► American poet i do know that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► like all like a whole healthy boys i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► have a list well and like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► all good American friends you and I both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► have shared with one another are our top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► four or five American poets but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► respect you know weird is that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► absolutely not we show each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► then there you know it's not yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► would like your friend or you're like am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► visiting seattle can we go by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► literary arts center that celebrates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► work of my second favorite American poet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► and i was like hey I happen to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► friends there like needed and let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► i'm curious but the Richard Hugo house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► was funded by some rich people some one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► of the you know the first generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► Microsoft and Amazon multi millionaires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► in this town back when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► millionaires already but the town was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► still pretty shabby and real estate was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► right right uh it was talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► i mean we can't assume everybody's heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► every episode of the show I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► know it sounds like a sinister in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► similar way to san francisco obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► in its own way but what Seattle has in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► your lifetime seen some massive changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah yeah well and and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► even in my lifetime I mean they're what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► is it makes it a tragedy is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► the changes started after i was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► aware of real estate right i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► remember standing on the tragedy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► yeah and away I remember standing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► your mommy and your mom did pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► well no not really not considering what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► we could have done right i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► could there were there was a time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► nineteen ninety five or six when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► could still buy a like a lot right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► undeveloped lot within 10 minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► walking distance from downtown you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► buy it a like a a quarter-acre abandoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► lot for $20,000 don't and this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► and and they were kind of all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► place and the reason was that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► nineteen that's like four or five months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► rent for and people who are new to San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► Yeah Yeah Yeah right and and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► even though i did see it but it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► hard to convince people because from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► 1972 1995 that lot was never a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► didn't change in value and Robbie it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► probably was costly to maintain keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► insurance i'm clean up the needles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► yeah you got it was probably more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► costs and benefits got you gotta pay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► yeah there's nothing else and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► like oh well that was twenty thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► dollars and one across the street was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► twelve thousand dollars in that lot up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► there you know that whole like corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► lot was twenty-four thousand dollars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► 450 thousand dollars you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► bought what would what would ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► be 20 million dollars in real-estate now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► because they are the developers now are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► going through that neighborhood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► tearing down three-story brick apartment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► buildings in order to build you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► five-million-dollar building in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► build a fifty-million-dollar old-growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► oh yeah they just goes right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► dumpster but and I did see it coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► because I could i looked around and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► um is that you you can buy a house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► and yet the world's richest man lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► here and not only that but this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► only this this will one day soon be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► last livable place I've been to Los [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► Angeles I know what it I know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► going on down there you know that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► was all evident 15 years ago but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► didn't have any resources and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► have any I didn't have the Moxie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► know and and and and you have it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► wisdom of retrospect I can look back now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► and say like I knew it then and I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► have devoted all my energy to it but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► fact i was trying to I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► write songs and being a band i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► want to be a real estate developer if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► you're right you know if you but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► you know sometimes sometimes you even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► there's nothing that ever gets you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► something about it it's hard to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► what I've idolized i'm fond of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► it's difficult for me to try to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► to people why didn't do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► Yeah Yeah Yeah right that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► caricature he calls the trigger account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► think again he can't you can't prove a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► negative but anyway Richard Hugo house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► these people were the were newly minted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► millionaires and they went into Capitol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► Hill's ritzy neighborhood and there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► particular house right across the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► from the Cornish College of the Arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► that is a massive and beautiful gracious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► home but it's right on a busy street and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► it's one of those beautiful homes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2458">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► when it was built and every once in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► while a guy would would putter by in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► one cylinder car pop up and go people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► you know it was like oh that's charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► right we we have put our are big home on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► the main street because we're Marty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► McFly's family lived in 1955 line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► estates or whatever me but maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► know because it made because the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► was bringing the milk on the horse-drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► a that kind of like busyness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► it didn't impact your enjoyment of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► home right right the streetcar went by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► somebody wrote by on a on a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► bicycle a penny farthing or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► there was no like being on a busy street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► was not it was not disadvantageous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► now there's this big beautiful gracious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► home but all day long is just round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► round round buses and cars and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► just not it doesn't have it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► enough seclusion right so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► beautiful home but but but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► such a big pile of of luxurious finishes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► that even though it's on a busy street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► you couldn't afford to live there unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► you were a rich person and if you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► rich person why would you want to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► there so the Richard Hugo house people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► initially went to that neighborhood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► they were like we're gonna buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► house and it made perfect sense it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► like it was this fantastic place and big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► entry hall a staircase that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► take a team of horses up and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► screamed literary arts center and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► it in an early example of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► Seattle NIMBY the other the old rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► people who lived in the in the gracious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► homes right around there were all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► what we don't want but we're all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► literary arts people going to park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► are you kidding we don't want to lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► some kind of literary can't imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► better neighbor that's going to invite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► people that wear feathers for jewelry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► that a literary arts you're gonna hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► those pencils scratching and neighbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► gave up together and kept the hugo house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► from being able to buy it they it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► just a grassroots campaign they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► neighborhood is not zoned for this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► of of questionable commercial artistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► use and so so they chase Richard you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► out out and and that your house bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► that funeral home kind of like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► pretty far down on there it was left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► by the time by the time they were able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► to get that place there like listen we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► just need to buy a place and I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► i recall correctly they they bought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► everything for a million bucks and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► sure i'm absolutely sure that it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► it's a ten-million-dollar piece of real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► I know goodness $59 so they didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► too badly but I still drive past that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► big beautiful home across from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► Cornish College of the Arts and think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► if this i mean one day this will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► literary arts center if I have my way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► when I am an old man i will come here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► and i will turn this into a literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► arts center just despite the ghosts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► those people because it's AI mean when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► that house was built someone had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► someone recently probably wrote literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► arts center in chalk on a beam it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► that's funny also because um you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► you would want in a guy down but so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► what he wrote about that some memorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► arm he had a real eye for just all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► of stuff and Pacific Northwest but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► of the things that makes him a good poet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► I for a lot of different kinds of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► I mean you know he's famous you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► first became famous for his fish bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► whatever but like the stuff is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► enjoy and remember the most is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► about like tumbledown Western towns just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► kind of and you know kind of analogies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► for life falling apart that you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► it's kind of funny though that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► wonderful book on writing that i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► highly recommend called the triggering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► I like your love Richard Hugo is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► my favorite loves and there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► things in my life I will talk about John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► because it bores other people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► portable what I talk about what poets i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► like it makes me so excited you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► he's really the rich man's by which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► mean poor man's but a carver you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► what I mean like he's that is uh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► Capote the poet but but without so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► rich man's Raymond Carver is the rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► please the rich man's poor man's Raymond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► that's my favorite people that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► favorite big blackout this episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► Roderick on the line is sponsored by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► game called threes three's a tiny puzzle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► you can play forever and it will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► be in your pocket shot and I are big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► you can learn more about 3 by searching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► your app store or by visiting threes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► game.com ok that's the part they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► us to say but here's the real truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► John and I are mere husks of men at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► time we play constantly are our lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► upside down our children are starving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► John I want to get to the bottom of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► diabolical game so we did a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► interview with Asher vollmer who's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► twisted genius behind this menace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► here's an excerpt from the interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► it will be fun to throw in something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► what do you think John yeah well a tip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► or even an argument like I've never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► to make an argument your entire fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► life I feel like it we started talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► about Three's we would we would develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► a narrative pretty quickly around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► oh I like the end and that it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► you know that if it it will affect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► self-esteem if you are not a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► person you know will discover the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► about three is basically so I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► what you're saying here we're definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► saying that we're going to help you by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► letting you know we're going to tear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► veil away from this this monstrosity but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► it's also I think we've been getting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► write a little bit like Lex Luthor or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► superman movie where he's saying some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► people can read a candy wrapper and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► I understand the secrets of the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► right exactly i feel like we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► unmask certain aspects of threes so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► it isn't you know I wouldn't give threes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► say to a vulnerable person here the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► of the interview and find out ashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► plans for harnessing your game play for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► free electric power please visit shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► online.com you can download the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► listen to it a lot of fun and like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► said you can learn how to grab your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► copy of threes by visiting threes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► gamecom or by visiting the App Store on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► your mobile device and Real Talk guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► thanks a million Asher for making our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► all-time favorite video game for taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► I was listening to buffalo Tom on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► weigh-in today bar brains like and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► I are buying a used to sound a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► well yeah and the replacements like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► those bands yet from the late eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► in America all sounded like dinosaur jr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► and the replacements and end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► recordings don't sound very good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► there's there's a lot of kind of I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► jangle strumming but through over driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► yeah it's also weird how I mean even I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► think this kind of happened even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► dump truck but there are others that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► cluster of bands from around that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► were like they were these crusty post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► minneapolis not exactly hardcore bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► but like my only was a pop-punk but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► bands like lemon heads and like soul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► asylum that were very I think very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► had their roots I'm not to disparage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► very much had their roots the book pets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► yeah but me it's funny you go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► listen lemonheads back when the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► they sound a lot like mr. do abs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► obviously soul asylum stuff before like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► hang time sounds so much like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► replacements it's fun i'm just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► delights yellow kind of secret record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► and who's the who's the guy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► frosted hair you know the guys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► became really popular window metric no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► yeah the group training never coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► back now that's all right now to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► google dolls dolls dolls used to sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► even more like they send a lot like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► is it finding all of those bands that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► you can go back and listen like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► late eighties output and I state my hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► time it's glossy but it's a good album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► it's like replacements meets cheap trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► is great but then those I but i couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► i never got into the goo goo dolls i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► could never get anybody like it'sit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► what's funny in retrospect because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► you do go back and listen to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► records you so clearly here they going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► oh my god i really want to I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► seems like kind of me in rem at one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► like oh my gosh I would love to recreate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► and it's funny because then they'd all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► like to a band got famous for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► generally power ballad or six so you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► I'm gonna take these wool pants off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► excuse me don't know please go ahead i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► talking talking we're taking my so hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► so you got that in the lemonheads they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► started to kind of turn it down you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► starting with the it's a shame about ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► stuff that's right then they got all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► think he actually did win a writer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► everybody now was she got there you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► done never did I never dated Buffalo Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► they had the headlight song that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► kind of a power ballad you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► remember i remember a early nineties all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► the way after grunge had already a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► crested Paul Westerberg still was voted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► America's number one songwriter in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► Rolling Stone pole and and I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► you know what the Academy Awards there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► John that's getting better 17 really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► felt like Tim Conway getting an Emmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► water appearance on 31 if it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► little left my book at matts go really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► really that's better than satisfied i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► telling you everything is that REM i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► don't know what I don't know whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► is just that I certainly did you drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► the kool-aid and then that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► kool-aid that you drank drank the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► kool-aid that was given in your time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► think that's right but a butt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► monster was the first REM Malcolm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► heard we're gonna have some very awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► country yeah I guess that's true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► like the first three REM records are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► bulletproof and and there's not a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► even the wrong notes are right and yet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► replacements and I know I know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► heard it all a thousand times and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► and I saw them back in the day and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► have sat on i have sat on a dirty couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► with two other guys in horn-rimmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► glasses and uh and and baseball hats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► from feed and seed companies and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► argued about this for 25 years I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► arguing about this but I put on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► replacements record just go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► really yeah well I i got a thought on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► that I I have a theory on why that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► because I sometimes think i'll take what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► oh I hope this is the most radical thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► I say today is that I i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► Let It Be is a way better finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► product then Tim I think the production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► on tim is incredibly dated my even Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► Dickinson stuff on pleased to meet me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► I mean my god i'm not gonna bring up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► gated problem but there's a lot of gated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► reverb on there that makes it sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► they're playing in half a toilet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► the lip balm but what I mean there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► not there is no worse record in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► production then I against I Bad Brains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► and yet what I this allows any records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► that like i said is misty records with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► yeah that's that spot guy ruined a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► of really good albums you really did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► and and i mean i think that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► fantastic album i can hear it i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► listen to it and love it through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► yeah i do not care different you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► be remembering right it's pretty River [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► be oh my god who knows it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► they put it sounds like they put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► microphone down a manhole cover and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► band was playing in a truck that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► driving by the rich language truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► there's no that they were never there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► playing a like a ok i'm sure that's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► breaking like not it's just sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► terrible and and when you listen to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► can't help but say like oh god if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► could just have also been recording this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► record when this record was recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► like if there was another guy there who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► was actually recorded back to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3298">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► theory about being a producer is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► than standing behind the faders it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► having editorial voice to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► you got the skills to make it sound good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► and then you make sure it sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► yeah right i mean you just I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► sure that recording a band was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► difficult and just personality-wise like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► HR came in and you know and just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► calling you not hear whatever it was or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► a Jew or whatever it was is because his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► trip was that our but but you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► god that those performances that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► in time right you can't go back and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► course that record because nobody could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► do it nobody could play that record now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► it was they had they were they had they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► were touched by angels right but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► saying you're saying that as a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► brother replacements hasn't moved you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► much as it's not a lot of people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► songwriting i mean the the sounds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► those records not withstand the song you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► don't like the songwriting I'd it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► that I don't like it I just go like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► this is for other people this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► guys in feed and seed hats or this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► for the goo goo dolls uh this one this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► is the you know like I felt that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► about Dylan the first time I heard him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► but then I grew to understand and love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► Dylan and Dylan moves me now but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► gone back to the replacements well a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► hundred times and I always just come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► of it feeling like yeah those were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► guys that lived in the house across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► street from the house that I lived in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► and we were friendly but not friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► mmm yeah I mean I i can't i can't argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► with that I mean you know at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► that something becomes a sensation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► whether it's any of these bands are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► other favorite bands that i learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► about because they became sensations you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► know a lot of it has to do with the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► and the time in the timing and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► that stuff does age better than others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► some of it was never really that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► to begin with and Buffalo tom is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► example of a band that i saw in 1990-91 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► and so I I can't hear a bad word about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► him you know what I mean like I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► i'll always love them because I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► the feeling of being at their show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► feeling like this is doable like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► these guys are doing this and it's and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► could do this this is doable and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► there are a lot of people at the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► and they're all it was that first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► because i always going to punk shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► those were the only shows that you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► to like hard hard-core show is where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► lot of it was about the mechanics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► yeah right i mean i couldn't afford to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► go see the to the cure is our ship right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► I wasn't going to go to those shows i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► was going to the show the five-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► show at the rec center of the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► and those bands were all hardcore bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► and and so I would be at the show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► would look around and everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► rocking their there punk thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► loved I loved to Slamdance it was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► my favorite things to do but i was i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► not walk out of that show and feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► you know what I'm gonna shave my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► and I'm gonna start you know I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► go vegan and i'm going to start like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► living and working at a soup kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► like i did not i was not transformed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► into right now I know but at buffalo Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► show i looked around and i was like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► like everybody here is my age and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► they're all wearing carhartt jackets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► there are there girls here and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► these guys are wearing glasses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► it was it was really it was really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► well yeah yeah and now you're making me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► think because that was that some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► early shows i went to and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► their electric I mean just so such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► adrenaline shot to go to a show like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► that but what's funny is like sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► especially bands that were opening for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► somebody else that I had heard the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► of it might be a little bit familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► with but bands were like that some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► the bands that really ended up sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► with me like yo tengo and steelies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► these bands were you go and like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► just heard their record first you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► you might not get it but we're girls are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► killed big example of all man they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► when they were good they were real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► glossy but they were they were amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► they were fun and funny but like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► but I mean you'll attend go to me like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► think there's something is fantastic i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► think the evolution of them over time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► great i think they seem like interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► people or you know again with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► feelies the Phillies are like as close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► as I'll ever get to something like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► Grateful Dead like where you go and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► justin intently watching the way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► song is unfolding because it's it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► is very rock and roll you know but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► just very very intense but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► kind of nerdy like yo tengo that's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► there's something basically nerdy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► it but it just happens to rock so called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► and then that leads me down the rabbit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► hole of going and looking for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► records from those guys that's then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► stuff that is really like you Buffalo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► stuff that really stuck with me and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► don't i don't think it's defensible I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► don't think you can I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► overturned create outside of hyde park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► and say I like Buffalo Tom and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► like the replacements like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► that that is artistically defensive when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► people use your time i'm i'm gonna get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► ticket to London and I maybe i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► to make that case you didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► moment of your time please gather around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► I know John Buffalo Tom but it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► don't care for the replacement soap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► watch once I driver behind you but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► you know what I made through the coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► cup of pee at you don't follow budget i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► mmm yeah yeah even listening music the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► same way anymore though John it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► yeah I guess I don't we came from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► actions guess I don't care I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► I was listening I was listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► radio and they were playing some old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► music by which i mean music from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► youth like you know Punk and grunge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► most of it was and I realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► there's you couldn't you could not sit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► young person down and explain what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► meant you know you couldn't you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► sit them down and say like it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► it used to be hard to even find it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► yeah you first you had to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► rosetta stone that tells you which bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► to even know the name of then you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► find out like what their music was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► you had to read extensive reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► there's like five steps before you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► even went and spent your fucking money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► on it for this thing and not that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► but 22 to be important to be 22 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► old in it in my case and go to a rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► where it was your first exposure to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► audience to an audience that looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► you who like kind of first time ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► right because the more i think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► like I'd been to heavy metal stadium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► concerts and I'd been to a thousand a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► punk rock shows in youth Center's but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► had never been to a show in a club where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► the where the other people where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► audience had taken some college classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► because those bands didn't come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► Anchorage right re i'm never played in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► Anchorage when I was growing up and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► that and to be 22 years old and have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► be the first time that you ever were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► standing in a room where you were like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► believe that this room of people is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► mirror i am seeing myself for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► how would you explain that to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► I'm because presumably they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► certainly bit there they are aware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► there are rooms full of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► resemble them even if they've never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► in one was designing a lot fewer things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► that are just strictly speaking a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► box there are a lot fewer things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► you actually have no idea what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► gonna be like right or it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► possible to find out what it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► be like until you do it until you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► right you could not you i could not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► had an advanced I guess somebody I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► somebody could have said like you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► go to this show because you seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► you would be a fan of them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► that would be the closest would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► closest approximation of like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► where you belong and it turned out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► didn't belong there either right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► I walked around and I was like hi hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► nice to meet you high and everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► like you know we don't really just walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► up and say hi to each other that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► that's not how we do it I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► I was thinking about that the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► I was walking down the street and I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► was taught I don't know about you but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► was taught that when you're walking down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► the street you make eye contact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► people and and nod and smile like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► make eye contact with people that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► pass on the street have we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► this now and you're worrying a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► bit and now I where we talked about John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPNa5WQ/3870">TS</a>]