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00:00:23 ◼ ► hello hi John Admiral mmm yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/23">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► we got to put that on a shirt i wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► how you spell it lots of peas and bees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/37">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► things are things are good things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/40">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► it's a i have not been sleeping enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/47">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► oh dear I stay up late and then I wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► up early and that's the that's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► uh-huh that leads to some five hours of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► sleep pneus uh-huh five hours of sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► and then several days in a row and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► pretty soon you're like huh I wonder why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/68">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► mm because i have been sleeping enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/73">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► yeah now it's just the worst i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► know you can you can do one of those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/81">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► do a couple of those and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► I don't know if it's because you're busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► you're not busy or you're super busy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► yeah deadline and you do that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► some kind of like an adrenaline thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► hmm you don't mean you're like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► work well under those circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► yeah but last night I was lying in bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► and by the way happy happy new year John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/104">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► oh yeah thank you as a few i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► yeah so I picture a pretty good new your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► time the guy across the street that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► living in the van that I realized it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► name isn't vani it's gary and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► if you're living in a van behind a hedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► question is Gary get married why is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/124">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► I don't know Gary and he and I have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► several encounters lately and gary has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► has that thing where you see him and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► talked to him for 45 minutes and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► see in the next day and and he's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► met you before but I so i ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/143">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► I've tried to call my across-the-street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► neighbor several times and it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► it's a thing where the the anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► voice answers the phone and says the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► mailbox is full and then just hangs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► on you and it's and it's a weird voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► it's not the voice that you normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► hear it's like a voice that you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► hear if you bought your phone at a gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► yeah i got verizon voice or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► some kind of weird voice where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/172">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► up the moist message bell box you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► click and so I was like uh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► Gary's out there is the ellen is yelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► into the phone he's yelling at his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/183">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► ex-wife just one o'clock in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► I don't wanna die I you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/187">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► something's got you know like when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► started that he won't remember the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/195">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► day likely i started to ask myself the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► hey what's the long game here is Gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► gonna live in the van in the front yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/202">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► of my neighbors house for another year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► or two years or five years like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/205">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► a little bit starting to he's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► angry guy and I have a little kid right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► so I so I called the neighbor went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/215">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► associations she's just for folks who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► haven't been following this you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► pretty worried about her for awhile you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/225">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► haven't seen her in a while there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/226">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► people moving in and out there appeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► to be some parties a lot of corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► looking good is coming in and out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► house it was a bad scene for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► then it calm down and you know and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► was a kind of a new normal which was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► least it's quiet on the set and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► regular characters are there but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/242">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► hadn't seen her in a long time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► figured you know I figured if they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► if they buried her in a shallow grave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► they wouldn't just be coming and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► with with the like 7-11 bags and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/252">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► you know they'd be hightailing it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► they be stripping the copper pipes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► anyway I called her she called me back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► as one o'clock in the morning she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► hey I saw that you called and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/265">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► she's like hi nice to hear from you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► 1am and in between our two houses there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► are two things there's a a laurel hedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► that's 25 feet tall and there is a 1968 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/279">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► ford van slowly rusting into the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/285">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► with four flat tires emulated by gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/288">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► and in the middle of the van is Gary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► gary is and there's an extension cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► running from the van to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► outlet on the front of her house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► gary is audible to me quite audible in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► the van going got tough to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► fuck you to you know just like having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/308">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► an explosion of Rage 470 Sam that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► lasting for like you know long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► it's been lasting long enough that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► I decided I was gonna like call my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► neighbor and she's like what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► i'm like i'm calling about Gary and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► was like yeah I mean yeah I couldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► know I can make it easy for me okay Gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► time and even suck air she didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► yeah Gary no no nothing just like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► and I think what it is is that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► a place in her house she can go where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► she doesn't hear Carrie and there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► mean there are places in my house where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► I can go but what those places are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► my living room or bedroom and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► Carrie is it Gary I have to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► with you Gary starting to be a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► for me and she's like yeah and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► does kind of soften and she's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► Gary Gary needs to go and I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► don't want to be the one to say it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► you know Gary I think I really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► Gary's got to go and she was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► he's really going to be a problem he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► started to he's cussing me out now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► I'm like I know you want to help Gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► but I started out is to do you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► right that it started out as her kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/380">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► yeah she's talked for a while she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► gonna run a little rehab house there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► then she got engaged to one of the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► and then the other guy sucking covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► and so we had a very nice conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► about how Gary needed to hustle up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► you know shuffle off to Buffalo and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► the one hand i'm thinking you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► the holidays right around the new year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► it's a vulnerable time for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► maybe maybe I should take a softer line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/408">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► on Gary right now and then the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/412">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► sometimes your bottom is that uh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► next door neighbor finally calls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► says that you that there that he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► are you there still no yeah no no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► listen I'm thinking so is its diff it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/434">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► so difficult because it's difficult when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► I have those conversations I'm braced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► for it to go poorly and you know and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► don't want to be comforted hate being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/445">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► confrontational with people about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► that is right on the bubble of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► business and not my business yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► have so uncomfortable about I really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► know it's whether it's a teenager having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► a party or somebody parking in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► driveway or whatever I just think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► personally how much this is in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► and I could just be a fucking gentleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► and let it go and when you have a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► I don't feel that much better because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/468">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► now I really do feel like a party pooper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► want to have that conversation one also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► now we broach the topic so if Gary's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► absolutely is going to be then there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► new uncomfortableness which is we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► about Gary getting the Gary getting gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► and now there's the there's the there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/486">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► the implication of a timeline because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► we've had a conversation about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/496">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► she's implicitly agreed that it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/497">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► yeah implicitly that it will happen yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► that it will happen and so then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► like every time I see her now it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► so how's it going with Gary are we where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► we add on that and that is like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► that's not a relationship i want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► with her you know I she she definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► has an uphill climb and I mean for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/517">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► I've I haven't said a word about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► because it because it does it falls into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► that category like well it's on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► property and it is her business and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► gary was her boyfriend and he was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/529">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► drunkenly screaming into the phone every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► night and be like well that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► happens when you live in a neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/537">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► right right but gary is it fair to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/538">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► crucial distinction which is gary is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► living in the front yard and the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► yard is enough of a puppet that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► it's still on her property but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► it is public space in the center and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► it's a van and it's that mean that year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► is a long time for someone to live in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► van it softens front yard and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► that's getting the driveway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/563">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► Gary's life choice or whatever but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► thing is the van is tucked behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/567">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► Laurel head in a way that the cops are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► not aware it's there nobody's aware it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► there I thought about it the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► if the hedge wasn't there and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► just this rusting ass piece of shit man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► with an extension cord going in one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► the windows and a guy in there yelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► like other people would have taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► notice but and you know and like health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► and human services or whatever would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► have said are you bigger you pissing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► a bucket like where how much access does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► Gary have to the house and have and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► that's a crucial especially if your if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► your chronic alcoholic like sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► I just always think about fires I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► know why as i get older i think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► like you know maybe Gary nods off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/611">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► marlboro red going mmm not so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► next thing you know it's a piece like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► it's the keys a can of beans and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► quarters are just single because my next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/623">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► book my other next-door neighbor Patrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► Patrick everybody's feelings Justin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► Patrick will drop a little science on me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► every once awhile about Gary's like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/635">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► hear that guy here that guy out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► slamming his van door and stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► middle of night and I'm like oh I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/643">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► him Patrick go Patrick is is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► on he he airs on the other side of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► what happens on your property is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► Patrick's also the guy that that fired a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► gun in the air when some teenage kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► climbed on the roof to Patrick right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► talk to the talk to his teenage daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/660">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and so I mean I know Patrick when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► chips are down Patrick's capable of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► handling a situation if you needed to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► of for Gary extraction capture him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► his underwear with a gun in the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► something something again back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► think I think Patrick's actually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/676">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► know off the sauce to do so the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► neighborhood's cleaning up but the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► he's the last of the mohicans and uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► I just who i mean i'm going on and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► we finally have the conversation but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► it's getting now I don't know what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► I don't you know there have been times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► when I thought that I would just run a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► hose from Gary's tailpipe right into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► back window and then we solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► problem completely but Gary never turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► the motor on because the band doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► run anymore so anyway that's at that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/708">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► that's not why I'm not sleeping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► reason I'm not sleeping is that I set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► until five o'clock in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► looking at ebay on my phone but right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► but Gary screaming at his ex-wife isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► helping me right and I wonder what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/726">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► hell she's doing at one o'clock in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► morning taking these hour-long phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► calls you know what I mean like if if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► were her I would have had to hang up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► phone after a certain after look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► the 40th raged fuck you I'd be like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/740">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► Carrie that's the thing about a about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► eight what I was going to say toxic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► personality but i'll say let's say an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► incendiary personality whether that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/753">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► in real life or on the internet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► whatever and I'll speak for myself my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► reaction is to just not poke at it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► would i would just as soon find some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► to just kind of avoid it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► probably that's kind of what everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/766">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► wants to do unless you're somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► is you know very convert confrontation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► like if there's if I'm on the train with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► my kid and somebody's having a meltdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/773">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► yep which happened I mean you we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► we've been on the train where they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► to stop it and have the cops pull up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/782">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► because the driver had to call the cops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► were basically the entire part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► car has emptied out except for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► what one homeless guy like melting down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► and screaming obscenities and swing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► things around and so in that case like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► there's the short certainly there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/795">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► part of me that goes like that's a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/796">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► being is suffering that somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► like with a little bit of medication and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/800">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► a hot meal might do a little better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► my inclination is to just get my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► movie other side of the of the training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/805">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► right it's so much easier and i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► say in general I mean you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► live in a city that is that is a healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/811">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► take care of yourself you gotta go check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► yep but but you know I don't but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► one guys one guy in our neighborhood not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► the not the chicken eating rice throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► neighborhood who like I all I had maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► three years ago I almost came to blows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/832">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► schizophrenic he sleeps in doorways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► I and he would just randomly yell things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► at people and in one particular occasion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► I have a pretty thick skin for city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► stuff but he got close enough and loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► enough when i was with my kid one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/850">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► that I kind of stepped him a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► which as you can imagine this unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► yeah I felt like it was a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/855">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► where I had to stick out my chest a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► little bit and get past the fog with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► this guy because it felt like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► yeah and after that happened I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► really i would avoid him i would I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/866">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► yeah because he had you know I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► menaced by the guy you know of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► there's a small part of me that felt bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► for him if anything happened like with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► year or so later something happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► maybe he got picked up and put somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► for a while but he got what I'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► is medicated right and got healthy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► he was he would still be sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/890">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► front of the walgreens with his hand out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► and I mean this guy Demi that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► talking like like just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► same clothes for four months covered in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► front of stuff and just filthy and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/900">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► the thing was though and suddenly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► don't say his name but but eventually he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► started saying like hey any chance you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/909">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► could help me out today and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► he's and I was like oh sorry man not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► today which is of course what you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► but I real and i would hear him having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► conversations with people and he sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► like a little bit of a crank but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► wasn't dangerous anymore and yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► don't know I felt like shit about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► felt terrible about it because i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► really do that much to help this guy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► he is my official adoptive look homeless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► guy wherever I live this is my this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► my policy on giving money that homeless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► people i pick exactly one person every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► time I see them I give them five dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/940">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► and you show you chose this going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► your have adopted for for like maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/943">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► mhm and if I got a little cash or I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► like you know something to say I'm done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► in awhile just say hey Larry unit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/951">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► and you know but like I I the whole in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► every part of that makes me feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► emotional with him I feel terrible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► he is a schizophrenic man living on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/964">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► streets and you know where I live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► we're really in them in the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/967">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► lands as they say it's nothing like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► you get if you live in the castro or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► something but I don't know the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► thing makes me feel terrible and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/976">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► course then it just makes me more filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► with self-doubt in the same way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► would be reluctant to call out Jerry you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► know what I mean it's like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► everybody's fucked up and there hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► been a fire so I don't wanna be a dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► yeah right and and this is the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► the the famous old adage and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► know whether it was Churchill or Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► Twain or dingus khan or Descartes who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► said hard heart of the conservative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► liberal yeah right yeah right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► tonight is not a liberal by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► yeah hard-hearted anyone is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► conservative by the time their forties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► soft-headed yeah was that Benjamin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► Disraeli who was that I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► attributed to Churchill yeah it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► it's I think it's probably it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► Mark Twain talking the Churchill for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► Remy um but it's one of those it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► of those problems of like when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► sympathies abound and you and you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► to live in a world where none of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► things you know it's it's not possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► for people to fall through the cracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► like that you feel it very invested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► the social compact why what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► why is this man left to what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► why can't he be helped and then as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► get older and older like get the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► Rand and you start to feel even mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► certainly I have started to feel as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► someone who has a young person actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► slept on park benches quite a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► increasingly as time goes on I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► some of these problems are intractable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► mental health problems social the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► social compact is not airtight and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► of these problems you know do not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► simple solutions i mean my mom spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► years walking around town adopting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► homeless people to the to the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► she would bring them home with her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► reestablish contact with their families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► and and you know go through these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► elaborate processes get them on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► medication find them work all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► things and then six months and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► transformation was incredible and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► have these you have these moments with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► irri absolute angel and look what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► happened that this guy used to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► sitting in front of the supermarket like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► with drool down his face and now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► like wearing a tie he's going to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► he's lucid and ended up and and turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► out an amazing guy and then nine months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► later he decided on his own volition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► stop taking his medication and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► he lose his job and then a few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► later he's living under the freeway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► again and you get that other sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► frustration of like wow that was a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► was a year it was not just a year's work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► sort of up to end up right back where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► started but also the emotional journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► wow I don't anybody know my mom would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► come out of those experiences feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► like I don't anymore feel like I can i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► it's not that I don't feel like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► help but like giving the guy five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► dollars for a bottle of wine is one form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► of it trying to get him in touch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► his family back in Ohio is another form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► of it and and ultimately the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► most people do which is sorry man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► or worse is another form of it and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► don't know the solution isn't easy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► in particular with my neighbors you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► my neighborhood is what we would have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► the past referred to as a respectable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► class neighborhood everybody there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► itself there's a working-class diverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► working-class neighborhood the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► working-class neighborhood where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► people are you know they don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► disposable income to really care for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► their yards or houses in a in a in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► that he would drive through and say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► wow these this neighborhoods got curb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► appeal but people are minding their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► business and they're making their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► payments and they are you know they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► solid and fair number of people who own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► I think everybody in the neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► does with the you know with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► exception of those houses where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► are a lot of people living sexy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► well and that's one of the differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► of a of of Seattle and Portland compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► to a lot of American cities which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► that there aren't really there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► aren't really ghettos here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► single-family homes and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► neighborhoods that are poor and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► are some housing projects but even those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► housing projects are built to look and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► neighborhoods winding streets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► cul-de-sac and San Francisco the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► way you can tell sometimes is very large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► that's right the the arc lights used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► be the way you could tell now in seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► concentration camp lighting and even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► even the poorest neighborhoods in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► city kind of just have have have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► neighborhood five but but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► conflict between me and Gary for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► instance or you know or my interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► the house across the street is also tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► up in a lot of class issues where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► totally super concerned about being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► you know about being someone who's moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► into the neighborhood of things I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► lived in that house longer than they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► lived in that house right i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► not like I moved into their neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► but but the question of like a ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► like here there's gotta be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► there's got to be some level of decorum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► here that doesn't include for instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► that party where people were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► ransacking the house but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► time it's like I don't know maybe I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► been to a lot of parties where would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► have looked to an outsider like like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► were just stripping the house and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► wasn't that at all and you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► I I no longer have the another thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► another mistake you can make in in youth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► is thinking that because you slept on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► some park benches for for a few nights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► that you have real insight into what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► is to be poor and um and I no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► make that mistake of of assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► like I map you know that with it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► inside their heads and that we all share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► like a common life experience right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► I'm you know I mean what I'm a homeowner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► and and and i also feel a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► that hit that creeping republicanism of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► like I'm a homeowner I mean just to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► those words in respect to what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► neighbors are doing across the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► bike as a homeowner I feel like we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► to we need to start up having like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► homeowner meanings where we we go around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► go around the room and say like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► who's got a guy living in a van in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► front yard anybody right how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► let's see a show of hands but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► there is that the phrase that went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► around a lot and then one of the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► many malcolm gladwell isms that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► kind of or partly or mostly disproven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► yeah you know well i mean the thing is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► understand that the part that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► disproven about broken windows syndrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► was not the part that if there's a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► broken windows you get more broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► windows the part that seems a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► disproven is that fixing those windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► does make a substantial difference right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► but I i mean i'll just say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► totally anecdotal but i think the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► yeah just like what you put up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► and then once that's ok then more stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► that's not so great because ok as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► yes it is new and look no further than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► the place where you walk in and put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► mail down you come in you put your mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► down that used to be a working surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► and now it's covered with male like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► takes a week and i think it's i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► it's true i mean like you know do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► want to be in the neighborhood where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► it's ok for somebody just have a van in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► the yard and somebody's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► unstable living in it for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► yeah yeah my dad called that that table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► the magic table because if you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► something down on the top of it within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► couple of weeks it would be at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► bottom of the pile and that seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► magic to him and then his solution was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► at a certain point when it because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► it was teetering the pile was teetering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► he would sweep it all into a cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► box put the cardboard box at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► of a closet and then wait and if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► the way you got it yeah then wait 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► years and died haha that's hot i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► do that idea that with our microwave we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► open the door the microwave and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► leather man and a bill fall off and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► like that's it and I guess I sweep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► everything into a box and put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► this is my legacy that the stuff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► internet this is not good for our Happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► New Year episode but you know the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► about dealing with folks who have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► serious you know mental and chemical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► stuff you know you hear these stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► about we need to talk about the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► and getting in touch with the family and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► there are a lot of families who quietly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► have somebody in their family who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► kind of in and out of the system on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► I mean you don't you don't have to poke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► around very far to find somebody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► a brother or maybe has a mother for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► matter who is just kind of there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► definitely part of the family tree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► there's no amount of quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► helping them that anybody can can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► that will actually fix the problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► they're just in and out of the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► all the time and those people are happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► people but they there's a certain kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► it's like when the wire I know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► bubbles goes to his sister's house is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► like I cleaned up like here's a key and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► go in the basement I don't ever want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► see you like that's right you fuck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► enough times exactly i'm never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► believe you get eventually eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► the time comes off and your back under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► just it's so much more complicated than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► anybody if you're not around it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► IES certainly i'm not an expert on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► but I do know that something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► homelessness is way more it is at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► level very much an economic issue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► there's a lot more to it than that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► might be economics but you know you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► been to the haight there's no there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► lot of people living on the street in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► the hate or like the Panhandle along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► pretty sure we'll probably be in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► in the next five years they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► chosen to be like a skate rat they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► joined the proletariat and they who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► knows they might come out of it a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► people if it is purely economical they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► do not want to go to a shelter that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► yeah it's you know anyway i mean the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► confusing thing about it is that a on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► experiences where you where you say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► oh this and it isn't just mental illness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► homelessness drug abuse but situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► this is an interactive well intractable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► track to political intractable Thank You [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► intractable problem i've tried you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► like my kid is a drug addict I've tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► this have tried that I've tried I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► tried tough love I've tried love love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► I've tried help i've tried external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► training a certain tried ignoring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► yeah I've tried all the fins and each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► us has had experiences and all families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► and all individual people have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► experiences and and even just with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► people where like I've been trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► explain to them for five years that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► living paycheck to paycheck is is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► risky proposition and that they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► put 50 bucks in the bank every time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► get a paycheck and if they did that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► a year then they have a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► money and they wouldn't feel so insecure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► and he try and explain that to somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► for 3 years 5 years and you realize like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► oh nothing i'm doing here can help this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► person does not want to know this they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► don't want to hear it and they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► spending every paycheck they get and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► then they keep having financial crises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► and they keep acting like it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► mystery and that and that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► you know that like why does everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► else get to like go on vacation it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► like well as some people save their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► money and you don't and but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► problem is we understand those on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► personal on a personal level but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► whenever we start talking as a society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► in a culture about those problems taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► to a larger scale than all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► it becomes much harder to say some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► problems are unsolvable because we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► technology and in our and in our thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► particularly in the nineteenth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► twentieth centuries that we can solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► all problems and it's just a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► applying the Right theory and the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► engine and and things become politicized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► so then it its it's not just that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► these people that there's a problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► drug abuse but it's a problem of with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► drug abuse and the other political party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► has the wrong attitude about it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► it's a battle and the implication is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► the other if the other side of the coin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► here wasn't resisting the reforms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► we have in mind right we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► solved this problem a long time ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► it's like well every time some a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► Congress gets elected we apply all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► the new reforms of that the last party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► was standing in the in the way of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► and the problem never get solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► it's very difficult as a society to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► well all we can do is manage this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► problem and we're never not and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► everyone is always and not everyone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► be healthy and not everyone can be not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► every problem can get solved and so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► what's the best management of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► Seattle just started doing a thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► couple of years ago where they built a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► they built the sort of a hotel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► chronic alcoholics where they gave him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► an allotment of booze every day I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► I've heard about these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► programs of like it actually costs less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► money in the long run to set somebody up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► system yeah right i mean they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► just like these are the people bet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► the three times a month are getting lift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► at you know transported to the emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► room in an ambulance and every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► those times across eight thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► dollars and they spend the night in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► hospital and that cost eight thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► dollars and we could put him in a hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► and give them a a leader of alcohol a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► day and that would just cost us two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► thousand dollars a month and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► be happy and that company cold and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► started Hamsterdam but that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► that's right and there you know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► problem is like the activists classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► information because on the one hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► much more humane but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► it seems again like its management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► no one is suggesting that these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► it's just like here's your leader of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► booze and the key to your room and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► not to like try not to bleed on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► toilet seat in the morning and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► there's nothing pretty about it but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► human beings are our I don't know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► is that this is one of the major themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► above my life is like yeah how far from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► animals are we really yeah i mean i-i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► just have a similar maybe slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► different my if there's anything that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► feel like has been both super useful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► extremely vexing in my journey to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► figure out whatever you wanna call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► productivity creativity just problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► solving and there's a lot of things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► think we mentioned i mention this to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► few weeks going in an episode but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► know it's I feel like any solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► that's uncomplicated is probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► true and probably not real it's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► you haven't found something complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► yet you are near the truth if you if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► seems if it seems simple you're not done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► looking you have already on happily ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► after and so you're or you are or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► are meticulously avoiding looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► things you don't want to look at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► hundred percent and that's why I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► now this might be a little bit too neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► i might be guilty of my own thing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► but you know it'sit's you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► and that everything in life is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► engineering problem there's probably at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► least three different vectors to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► everything and anytime you try to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► one problem one way the one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► questions to ask yourself especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► you're a lawmaker oars or you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► public person is how much am i doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► about this just change the way that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► yeah because if you want to just change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► the way something looks there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► thousand different angles you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► you can cook the books you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► people in and moving over to Hamsterdam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► likes all kinds of ways that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► change the appearance of something it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► just that once you try to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► change anything you realize you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► actually changing or another way to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► it rather than changing is your uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► pending you are chaotic sizing probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► five or six different things unintended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► what is it you really want to change so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► productivity stuff is ask yourself if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► you're solving the right problem at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► right level for the right reasons as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► you don't like those up all you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► do is it's all optics it's all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► changing how it looks and so the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► is if you're mostly sad because you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► homeless people on the street your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► solution one solution might be to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► him five dollars for wine another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► solution might be to put them all into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► some kind of a camp you know but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► are you really trying to solve and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► can't ever solve the total problem of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► class status and economics in America so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► at what level will you try to solve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► yeah and then you have to if you scope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► that correctly you can have successes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► but they won't be permanent successes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► they won't be easy successes and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► won't be complete successes and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► what everybody thinks they want they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► think if we can't do this completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► perfectly it's not worth doing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► anyway that's a little bit better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► that is computed that that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► that is absolutely another another angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► to it which is that no one wants no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► no one is satisfied with that with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► half victory right because because so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► much of the so much of these questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► is what energizes the whole political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► machine in America like if if if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► problem if we call a problem solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► uh then the the fundraising engine dries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► up and the and the the outrage engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► and so so they're the these these ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► these big ideas and people's lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► really ultimately our are pitted against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► one another in order to keep this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► machine of the of the chattering classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► and the legislative classes it employed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► and it what amazes me about the Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► is that they find a way to every year up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► make a bunch of new laws and hits like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► the question is so infrequently that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► need a new law and that standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► applying the standard of like it making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► a new law should be a last resort and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► there's a lot of work that the Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► can do the the big glamorous work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► they do is make a new law right and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► just keep making new laws and our the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► old laws are like all these skin flakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► carpeting the bed where the Congress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► lays where they don't they don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► anymore we don't look at the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► it's that this this legacy of crafty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► laws go whether remember there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► people 100 or 50 or 25 years ago had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► same right idea let's go make a law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► that's right exactly and and and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► don't as a we're not very reflective as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► a people we don't look back at our at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► our legacy at our recent history even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► and say were these attempts like let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► use the power of metaphor for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► attempts that we made 25 years ago 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► years ago were they successful and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► what ways were they successful but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► in what ways where they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► failures utter failures and why would we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► go down that road again a hundred times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► a thousand times and it's that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► boy we are imperfect and and unlikable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► god dammit season games i'm looking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► the window right now at the at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► freeway on-ramp but I'm just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► goddamn you pigs and you know the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► part of this that man it's just it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► beyond obvious but man that's the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► we always miss is like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► vast percentage of the time do we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► laws need to be made because other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► people need to be stopped from doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► something there's nobody there are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► very few people out there who are saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► that they need a lot past about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► there are very few people who say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► know what I'm pretty irresponsible in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► this one area so I should have some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► of threat of criminal or civil law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► introduced so that I'll become a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► yeah but we're always were always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► looking for all these other people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► have caused our problems and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► want to live past about them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► there's this entire inefficient arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► inefficient arms inefficient limbs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► government are expected to sweep out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► do that in a way that's going to be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► yeah fucking people oh my god there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► are they're all out there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► wandering around over there stopping at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► stop lights when the light turns green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► and they go they take the whole width of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► the walkway just so and you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► pole at the at the level of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► parent and watching watching a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► kind of navigate the the very first sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► of human first real human interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► when they're little babies right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► just sort of like how there they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► look at him go like throw some food in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► their crate and put a blanket over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► and and then we'll see him in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► morning but you know when when uh when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► my daughter has she started now to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► interactions at school that I recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► as human interactions and ones that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► oh this is her first encounter with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► interaction that she'll have thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► of times that are literally thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► times and this is essentially it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► first one and she looks mean she goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► what's going on here and I think I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► I could tell you because everybody i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► know myself included once to kneel down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► and say listen here's what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► but the reality is i am still in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► situation that you're in and I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► alright yeah and there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► easy way for me to say this and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► certainly no way for me to say this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► it will not be just a dumb cliché but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► like there's just so much stuff in life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► yeah probably every little kid has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► that's what that's what they call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► goat nature's president haha every child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► every child every child has an innate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► sense that of fairness that mostly leans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► toward them so it's one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► powerful instincts that they have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► itself a reservation instinct and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► there's there's there's not there's they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► haven't evolved enough and very few of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► us have evolved enough to go well let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► make sure everybody got something here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► it was definitely a sense of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► person that they got a balloon they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► I better have a balloon coming yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► know what we got ice cream like I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► get ice cream or just that the yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► mean one of the things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► experiencing is like well other kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► throw tantrums in front of their parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► and say no and and push their hand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► their parents face and why shouldn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► a hundred percent and I've I've I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► a drumbeat that is such fucking weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► sauce but it's the only thing I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► always say which is you know like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► example we're still standing at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► crosswalk and as happens people start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► walking before the signal has changed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► and she starts walking I say no we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► walk when it's safe for us to walk do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► not rely on what other people do or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► don't do to help you decide what's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► and safe so you know we're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► this in our own way because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► there are people that we are is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► do the right thing we don't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► thing because there's a lot we don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► certainly could be part of it but we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► this because this is who we are and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► don't and I feel like such a such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► idiot like such a such a 00 limp-wristed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► liberal when I say that but I i hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► that that becomes true in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► that I hope it's true when I say it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► self to get my I say to myself for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► we could cross you can't cross 50 times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► and we would go against the light and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► probably be fine but that's not who we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► are going to be it's the core of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► civilization it i mean that internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► governing is the basis of the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► we should we should all be philosopher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► Kings that we should live in no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► the whole premise plus writings fake it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► till you make it with the whole premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► of a civil society is that we each are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► internally governed and so don't need I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► don't need restrictive laws i mean both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► there are versions of that on both sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► of the political spectrum which which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► presumes the best about people and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► used to be that there was a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► energy devoted to that idea in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► culture where we where we said to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► ourselves and to one another like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► is not what we do it's not we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► we're not not committing a crime because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► we're afraid of getting caught or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► because there's a video camera watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► us we're not committing a crime because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► we do we do not commit crimes right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► this is the problem with the the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► of the the whole torture thing the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► bush-cheney doctrine in American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► politics is that we squandered we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► squandered that it on a global political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► level the title of our good deeds and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► measure of moral authority just was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► 50 years that just went out the 60 just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► everytime everytime we we built a well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► or rebuild something we blew up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► that all went away when people saw how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► foolish it we were yeah and and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► that's true on a micro level 2 and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► around us every day you know this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► this is why we're always harping on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► stuff of like the little the little shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► like don't take your shoes off on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► airplane don't wear your fedora into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► restaurant don't stand there with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► earphones in and it you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► piss on my shoes or whatever and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► there but it's not because it's illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► right i mean all the people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► like why shouldn't i wear my pajamas on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► an airplane it's like I mean it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► illegal is true and like that and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► basically like they're starting point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► like it's not illegal it's a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► country and it's like right but like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► you don't maintain standards and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► suggest high standards personally then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► you can key then you're living in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► world where if it's not illegal it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► going to get done and how would you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► it if your neighbors felt that way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► you know how would you like it if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► people that you're encountering were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► also just making decisions based on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► was legal or not I mean it's your living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► in your living in chaos and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► descending culturally we really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► there there is there is an a we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► lost a lot and we've gained a lot up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► the last lesson we're losing a lot of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► feel this personally as I have to go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► be around other people less as a matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► of course I noticed in myself as I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► to remember to try and do the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► thing but you know what level do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► want to do you want to attack it out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► I think I feel like as a culture just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► observing people are either becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► less mindful about how to act and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► did how to be jostled by other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► and be okay how to like just deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► even that whether it's like getting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► and off at the train knowing how to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► in line at the store like everybody's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► yeah and I'm so this is the self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► contradictory because we are the authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► of keep moving and get out of the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► keep moving it out of the way is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► heart of it like that's the most basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► like what what greater kindness in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► that's absolutely right that then to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► keep moving and get out of the way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► really know 100 off don't make huff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► puff noises in line don't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► slower traffic moves right not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► there's a sign but because not customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► mean not because we're mean but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► what that what that suggests what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► implies is that you are looking in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► mirrors conscious that there are other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► and you are trying to get out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► of somebody who's got a different who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► got a different tempo and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► courtesy right that's I mean this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► thing about tipping your hat right of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► what when we talked about that several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► episodes ago i was reminded about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► power of tipping your hat that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► kind of it in the in the the daily grind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► of the city had had neglected to tip my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► hat all the time right I had I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► resorted to tipping my hat just when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► was opening opening the door for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► somebody in a hotel but for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► part walking around with my hat on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► passing people in the street even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/2810">TS</a>]
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00:52:27 ◼ ► reinforces the other thing which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► we cannot perfectly understand ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► and the whole premise that's been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► place ever since I was a kid in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3154">TS</a>]
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00:53:02 ◼ ► of issues where it's like oh all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► characteristics that people exhibit are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► in culture ated in us right male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► violence and a and infamous helplessness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► female helplessness and all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► that just seemed like if we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► perfectly engineer our culture and if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► could eradicate these ideas that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3204">TS</a>]
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00:54:41 ◼ ► ever devised says 33 year old brain you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► know you're like well we can't we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► hit each other because we don't allow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► because if we allowed it then we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► be in a state of perpetual violence with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► each other because we all feel that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► we walked down the street were just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► I just wish I could hit all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► and then it's like except I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► to get hit myself and I it's really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► it does come back to a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► fair play on some level I well it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► sense that only in the sense that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► don't want to get hit yourself that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► idea of fair play being that the smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► smaller kid gets it worse than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► bigger kid if everybody's allowed to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► I mean that's the beginning of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► fairness rather than just sort of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► don't we don't hit each other because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► don't like to be hit but also this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► idea of like we can't let the big kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► get his way over the little kid just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► because he's big and you know that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► very human-like I think I think animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► don't I mean you know like orangutang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► four lions understand the concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► don't just bite your friend because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► gonna bite you like that's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► simple idea but the human idea of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► don't we're not gonna we're all going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► agree that it's not fair for the big kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► to get his way more often than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► little kid that's a thing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► that's a that's the beginning of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► that's the beginning of society and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► that's so you know so much stuff follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► from that that we're going to school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► were going to intervene and and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► the things is that the little kid little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► kid do it as traditionally develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► strategies to deal with being being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► swatted by the big kid right the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► kid develops other skills and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► other skills are part of the part of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► culture is built culture is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► built by little kids who developed other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► skills to avoid being swatted by big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► I mean this is it's just it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► and if you intervene to correct correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► one thing that you you know one little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► leaky pipe you see that it's all part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► a system and who knows who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► yeah I i guess so i i'm kinda I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► of glad it's it's not okay for big kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► to hit little kids but personally but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► I'm what worries me and what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► worried about is the just the necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► hey look here's something i can show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► some things we're doing this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► behavior instead of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► behavior is something you'll instantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► understand anything right we say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► someone there's there's a natural order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► of things where if you say please and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► you will make people happy and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► get away with stuff this is a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► learn to say please and thank you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► just it's a really nice thing and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► time you'll learn that that's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► idea you could say things like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► better to be fair rather than not fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► but then we also have to do these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► last night I had with my daughter got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► after she got into bed and my wife and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► were watching TV and she came in she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► mad because she couldn't watch TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► so what what do I say when I say when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► say which is like it well it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► bedtime now our bedtimes later we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► watching TV like you know should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► apologize for that no but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► inherently unfair to a little kid and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► don't know but just from their point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► view that's absolutely unfair like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► guys get to go have fun and I have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► to bed you get to use your iPad whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► you want and I don't like that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► hypocritical on the face of it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► but you know so I guess what I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► is I think what's complicated is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► asking kids on the one hand to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► certain kinds of things as being natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► law and like is not just a good idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► do it that way isn't it just a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► to close the refrigerator door so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► don't waste energy and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► and then other times we have to say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► except there are times when the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► that seems really natural is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► the opposite of that and you just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► to learn that right that some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► right i try to you know I don't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► answer to that I think some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► things confusing some of those things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► need you to just learn like as in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► memorize this rule and and one day it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► make sense and some things it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► want you to learn the concept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► governs this as a thank you but don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► get in a white van that i still find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► right right well and the thing is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► don't you know I watching watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► uh my instinct is to extrapolate it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► adults because I feel like ninety-nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► percent of adults interactions are kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► interactions that are just extrapolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► to like interactions plus iphones yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► kid interactions plus the the arrogance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► of feeling like because you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► alive for 25 more years your spew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► and the thing is that I to believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► the big kids shouldn't be able to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► the little kid like I believe that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► evolution and I don't think that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► think that that rule is true in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► mark and in in in germany and in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► know like in certain places in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► but i don't think that that rule is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► necessarily true in Russia or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► Ukraine or Serbia right now let alone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► a bit places that I haven't been but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► have suspicions about right and and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► but what I don't what I mission using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► it's unrealistic in some cultures to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► oh I don't think is a natural law and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► this is the point I'm making the big kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► should not hit the little kid is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► natural law it is that it is a thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► technology and the problem with us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► America is that a hundred years ago we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► still recognize that that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► thought technology and we were proud of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► having invented this idea and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► part of you know it was part of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► legacy of Western Europe that we had off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► you know honor and you didn't hurt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► little guy and you you know women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► children first off the boat like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► were concepts that we were justifiably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► proud of because they were inventions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► there's nothing natural about that ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► and in and if you let human beings go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► even a little bit that though that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► see even in modern cultures that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► rules are not that that that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► pretty far down the road you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► big man still is in charge in most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► the world still here and we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► sharing the same internet but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► change the fact that he walk into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► village somewhere and you see that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► big guys in charge and the little guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► comes up to me and says hey but I any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► kind of wax him and everybody goes oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► shit you know right thats that is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► the that's the that's the law the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► law so the fact that we have the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► that we've made these advances these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► cultural advances we have the idea we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► have in we've expanded the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► what is it has also happened to us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► the last hundred years is that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► recognizing that those are and not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► the last hundred years we've stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► recognizing that those are thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► technologies and started to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► them as though their natural rights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► if you if you if you start making policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► if you start living your own life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► according to this expanded idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► natural rights that's what causes causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► a tremendous amount of confusion a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► of figure you're gonna have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► cognitive dissonance have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► talking two incidents and a lot of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► of out it's a lot of outrage because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► you're standing there saying how dare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► and you're saying that because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► believe that that somehow the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► intrinsic level of Justice is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► higher than it is and what you're what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► you're not doing is giving credit to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► the work that went into establishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► that bulwark against all against all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► against a Hobbesian world and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► understand the culturally there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► we spent a lot of effort to kind of tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► down the Western European colonial the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► idea that civilization came from the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► know from the english courts or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► but in in stripping away all of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► saying like no no we need to we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► incorporate all the the traditions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► every culture we don't want to live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► we've forgotten that some of those some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► of those traditions of of chivalry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► english law were novel only occurred in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► one place are now widely adopted but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► ultimately a an artificial overlay that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► if we want if we believe in we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► and that begins with understanding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► it is it's like air conditioning that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► invented it it it demonstrable he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► life better but if we don't maintain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► then it stops working again and when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► air conditioning goes off it doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► any good to sit in a hot room and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► scream but that the air conditioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► went off you have to get up and fix the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► air conditioning and that is that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► of that's true really of a system of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► justice to that was that was some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► good explaining you know what you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► mansplaining yeah we get what I want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► sure I do not oh my god i'm gonna get so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► oh god please I do not have this woman i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► Harry Nilsson oh oh you're gonna get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► sad letter i'm gonna get so many sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► well you're gonna get several set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► letters from one guy could think of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► can think of a few guys that are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► to send me some settlers on gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► head-to-head on Harry Nilsson before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► because we've gone we we've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► head-to-head on so many things you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► in a civil society and you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► that's a conversation you guys can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► even have that but here's the thing i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► not against Harry Nilsson I everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► that he does i love obviously love his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► voice I love is don't get why he's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► big i love his hits right but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► songwriting his miraculous songwriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► it seems to me that he is just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► me and ring both is both of both uh like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► lyrically and melodically meandering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► down a path where he's kind of singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► some some thoughts it with a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► sing song melody and you know you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► halfway through the song you get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► end of the song and it's like huh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► yeah i'm sure i like that that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► over but but i do not have a i do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► have this feeling that he is at that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► of a certain kind of pop that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► exist before I mean maybe I Asia maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► it's that it didn't exist before and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► I've grown up since then and so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► see the novelty that maybe was a parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► I think it's the all Merlin man's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► playing this to you and part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► the rise of the documentary mean the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► documentary that will almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► feature chuck klosterman thurston moore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► good girl be there good as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► what's up a log was quietly passed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► the days after nine eleven that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► have to be in every music documentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► where you know Martin Scorsese sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► in a theater meaning under me like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► I you know it's funny though cause like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► you know we will i started watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► documentary last night on nas and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► making of illmatic which I've listened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► to about twice or three times i listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► to mostly because of jay-z and their you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► it's a really really good record I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► like I couldn't wrap it to you the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► could like a public enemy record but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► just thinking as I watched that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► really well done beautifully made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► watch the first few minutes of it to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► daughter woke up I just want to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► did I have the option that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► chuckles it if i invite if I had known I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► had that option I would have asked for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► lot sooner 1989 the number or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► summer sound of the fucking drama music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► in your heart because I know you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► soul brothers and sisters John Wayne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► most never meant shit to mean straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► up raises that sucker was simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► Elvis Elvis was here at the most that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► right well done John Wayne to else was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► hero to most but he never meant shit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► me straight up great stocking stuffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► simple and plain by the fucking man John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► way and i'm hoping bucket on prime x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► plus I'm am most of my heroes don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► yes boy did I ever listened to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► record a lot but you know if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► understanding what I'm saying is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► it's funny because think about like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► because the heavily lauded recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► documentaries that were that are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► you know good like the 20 feet from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► stardom about backup singers my muscle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► there's been a lot of these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► high-profile not netflix created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► then our about weed or food that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► you watch them and the thing is even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► you don't know anything about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► person like what other ones the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► things about Daniel Johnston like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► nobody's heard Daniel Johnston what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► think of them as ask this character but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► you're talking about him there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► something about like once somebody makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► a documentary about you like in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► well-made documentary you kind of can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► help it disappear into that artists even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► if you've never heard them before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► wonder if that's part of it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► sounds to me like you're saying you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► saying Nelson maybe he goes somewhere up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► with an eric carmen look a good pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► songwriter but not like well yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► it's the thing I mean a long time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► mean I understand like the resurgence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► based on on like like people are looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► back in time and try and we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► kind of a northern soul thing except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► with our own culture everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► what are some of the great the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► songwriters that we never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► let's go back fine like the good ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► but in 1970 like randy newman and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► they just the way I say his name randy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► newman and and Brian Wilson when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► plant is still talking very forgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► you baby but here's got to go dive guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► internationally civilization that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► becoming really should but all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► guys they all love Nelson let you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► think he is and I'm not slagging here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► but i think i think of him kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► Nick Drake or maybe kind of like oh shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► maybe to a certain extent Jimmy Webb me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► where these characters that were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► unusual for their time but nick drake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► what you like two records if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► records with them about nick drake is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► Jake's you got it like you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► it's he had one sound and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► thing about a sound right if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► too if you make two records and even one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► of them just has a sound all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► yeah it's like that's all he needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► do he just invented a sound and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► can go or not invented but he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► perfected a sound and then he can get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► load and go across the water mhm uh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► thing about the thing about Nelson is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► that every song is different and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► not clear what the you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► connection is he didn't invent a sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► right he's got a great voice but he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► he and I don't know I i have to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► more time now where do you stand on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► do you stand on Sage on deck you feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► try to get some other documentary people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► or scott walker you gotta feeling on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► Scott Walker documentary I haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► Scott Walker document hello brother you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► need to see that one guy's got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► Scott Walker you're saying is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► walking from the Walker brothers and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► basically in the Walker brothers he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► those righteous brothers style songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► covers and then like the last Walker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► brothers record was pretty fucking weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► then he went solo and each subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► record of his has been more like totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► bananas in the documentary you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► him recording he recorded about every 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► years now and so that the percussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► involves like getting a side of beef and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► stuff and it's harrowing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► delightful you know you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► the singer the unique you've heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► you know it's yellow area for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► uh ah I feel like I need to I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► watch some more music documentaries one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► thing we're gonna do this music month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► you know what we should we should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► make this music month we should talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4341">TS</a>]
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01:12:28 ◼ ► am thinking about starting to rejoin the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► songwriting game and wondering like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► my place in it is and what I what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► to contribute to the songwriting a pile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► get your dienophile you know watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► these guys uh and and and gals who do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► successfully and find their own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► through you know like I mean I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► understand Joni Mitchell either but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► that without Joni Mitchell there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► be no Sheryl Crow and without show crow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► so in that sense thanks i was we keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► unknown he's saying a base you coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► college to a more gets up every morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► and writes a song that's what he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► Randy Newman gets up every morning as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► cup of coffee as a bagel when he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► down to the studio and he writes songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► until it until it's quittin time went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► bid leave now feeling kind of fell to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► when you gonna up that he means the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► sheepdog at the punch-out machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMcBPok/4431">TS</a>]