00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of rock on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► sponsored by need need is a refined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1">TS</a>]
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00:00:09 ◼ ► featuring items to help you make small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► meaningful changes in your life to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/11">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/20">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► yep are my packets he your packets are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/26">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► good good i like to have my packets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► arrive 100-percent packed with no loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/34">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► no loss of any kind of the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/39">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► that was one of my resolutions means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► really I would keep my package tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/49">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► it's so hard because i don't know uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► know it's like it's like they say don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► let somebody else pack your parachute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► that's what they say now but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► every time I go on the internet somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► else's back in my parish I hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► sister you know i'm saying i know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/65">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► whatever people say things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/69">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► though i can't help but have this lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► going through my mind which is what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► they're way better at packing it in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/74">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► parachutes if you had a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► parachute Packer uh-huh and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► yourself was just some kind of like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► time Charlie which one would you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/88">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► have pack your parachute that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► point I think maybe is it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► less catchy but maybe what we should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► is don't let one time Charlie pack a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/98">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► parachute that's right well and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► what I'd have jumped out of an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► you're kidding and let me tell you who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► packed my parachute a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► yeah because a they didn't even offer me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► the option let me go and just take care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/114">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► of that for you know what we would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► this a long time yeah yeah and and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► glad for it opened just fine so you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► skydiving one time when I was a what 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/126">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► years old I was going to the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► and there was a and I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► figure out the kind of woman I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► spend the rest of my life well to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/140">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► yeah it goes up it comes up from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► time you think I'm gonna you know I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► like I feel like I've gone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► like I am now a comfortable saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/153">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► I'm heterosexual and i'm going to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► i'm interested in women now that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► yeah and and like so what is my what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► my what who is my my other who is my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/166">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► my woman partner and I went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► several iterations of like well let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/173">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► see you know I feel like I wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► confident and strong and and capable in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► her own person and all that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► there were also many so many examples in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► college of people that I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► be that kind of man I didn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► around that kind of man I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► be with that kind of woman etc and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/193">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► there was a there was a gallon one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► classes who had a blonde hair braided in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► this braid that was as thick as a baby's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► arm and it went down past her hand tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/205">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► the turquoise accented leather belt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/213">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► paint a picture and she sometimes she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► always had like dusty rough out cowboy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/221">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► boots on and sometimes she wore a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/224">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► mmm machinist who she is and she really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► did and she this is you know what 1991 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► 91 or 92 and so I was suicidal up to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/241">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► and she would also like always was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► really engaged with the professor always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► you know sitting in the few always sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► in the front row so i could see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► braids because i was sitting in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► of course so because i like to survey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/257">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► we went out on a few dates they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► sort of it was sort of middling you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► uh-huh because it turned out later that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/271">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► I did not really want like a Santa Fe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/275">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► yeah you know like that's not where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/283">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► was headed in life but at one point she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► was like let's go skydiving and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► like this is the kind of adventurous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► date that I always dreamt of right she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/295">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► she she proposes that we go skydiving of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► course I'll go skydiving we went up we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► spent the whole day skydiving and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► know you have the option of going where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► you're basically wearing an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► skydivers a backpack right or going by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► yourself and I was like I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/318">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► anybody humping me on the way down like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► I'm work we're gonna go we're gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► are essentially essentially she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► want that option if you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► feeling a little and dignified if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/329">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► like me can I have two people yeah can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► we all go to backup person too and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► was pretty amazing you know i I've spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► a lot of time in small planes so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► wasn't uncomfortable I wasn't anxious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► being in the plane and we get up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► and they're like okay who wants to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► first and kind of look around there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► like five of us in the plane not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► not even it was a small plane was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► there are three of us let's say I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► remember so long but I remember the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► where they would have to be four of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► if you had a grabby guy down so you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► you're saying you like it not to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► neither of us had grabbed again I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► and she in the in the moment she looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► at me she was like you go first and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► was like I'll go first and I'm and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► not feeling any like anxiety at all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/375">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► was all very familiar sights and smells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► and so I stepped out on the like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/382">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► other plane ship you've ever taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► yeah except i'm wearing a parachute on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► and there are there aren't really seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► in the plan right you're just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/393">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► sitting in its empty plane so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/394">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► they're like put your feet on the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► and I'm like a very comfortable doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► this I'd put my feet on the wheel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► million times not in the air but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/405">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► put my feet on the wheel and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/411">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► like reach out and grab onto the strut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► with your feet on the wheel strap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/414">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► that's right because we're in a 185 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► the highway in airplane so I reached out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/422">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► and I grabbed onto the strut I'm feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► very confident and then the guy says now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► just slip your feet off the wheel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► hold onto the strut and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/434">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► this it was the like uh obviously that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/439">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► the next move right and my vision was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► that i was going to slip my feet off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► wheel and my feet were gonna like fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► back behind me and then I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► hanging onto the strut like Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► with my body you know straight behind me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/457">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► and then I would have the opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► decide whether I was gonna jump or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/465">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► and of course you slip your feet off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/469">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► wheel and you don't your feet don't hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/473">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► behind you and you're not like flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► like superman deciding whether to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► Harold Lloyd hang on the face of a clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► that's exactly right you slip your feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► up the wheel and all of a sudden your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► whole body weight plus the weight of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► air the friction is pulling at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/490">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► grandma hungry for you you're holding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► it is strut with your cat claws and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/498">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► no wait and then there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► deciding to jump you cling to this plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► until you are swept off of it and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► genius move it sounds like skydiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► hack they don't really tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► yeah there's no like they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► through this many times you don't stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► in the doorway and the guys like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► ready inhale or or the light turns green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► and you jump because they've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► this for years and i'm sure people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/529">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► stand there in the doorway paralyzed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► so he walks you through this like stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► ok grab the strut right now just slip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► your feet off and the decision is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► my god and so there's there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► picture of me holding onto the strut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► with my tongue completely out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► mouth like a like a golden retriever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► sticking his head out the window of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/554">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► because I open my mouth at to stick my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► tongue out in like a in a sort of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► style of the times like a Shaka bra like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► and the wind grabbed my tongue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/566">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► stretched it to my ear and it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/570">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► i was only hanging therefore it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► have only been a couple of seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/575">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► oh my god and man is it open in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/579">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► kind of I mean something you haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/584">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► any kind of training for this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► it opens automatically when you jump off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► the plane right yeah it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► what it like parachuting onto a DJ beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/590">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► it's connected to the plane with a cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► and you as soon as you fall away Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► a horrible horrible way to do that is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► only works on the first guy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► because you can check the other folks do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► here put your feet on the wheel well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► know I for the people for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► that are in the plane it probably looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► like I got out there did the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► can you go to hit your head or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► well no because because they have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► away from the plane because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► you reach out and grab the strut kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► far as far out as you can as far as that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/627">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► wouldn't jump into a pool that way let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/632">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► incredible was they during the training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► which is a couple of hours of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► here's what's gonna happen you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► it's going on walk and talk as you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► yeah and incidentally they have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► in your heels great we got professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► pressure package here don't worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► Charlie I they talk about the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/655">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► yeah that that the experience of falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► from an airplane is so unfamiliar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/664">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► your body just selected several your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► body just reboots just what i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► thinking i mean ii to do like actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► real parachute skydiving where you pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► I mean don't you go through like weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► and weeks of training yeah you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/680">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► do this where the things that i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► actually have lots of training and jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/685">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► off a little block and stuff and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► all all of that and then you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► multiple skydives where the case where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► the court is pulled for you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► because what as I was going through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► training I was like there's no way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► gonna black out like coming what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► pool though it seems a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► let's see a little bit like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► somebody take swimming class for eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► weeks without ever actually getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► the water and then and say here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► you doing here is a youtube restroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/710">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► ready like the head right go right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► sploosh well so so I'm like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► way i'm in a blackout but as soon as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► let go of the strut soon as I was swept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► off the wing of the plane to be honest I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► have very clear memory of the because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/725">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► you i'm falling backwards right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/729">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► i'm like i fall away and what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► looking I'm not looking down i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► up because just the nature of the way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► cold and icy the plane getting rapidly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/740">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► smaller as it goes away from me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/747">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► get total tunnel vision like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/753">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► yeah and i am on the absolute verge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► blacking out all I can see in the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► center of my perception is this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/762">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► like kind of like the end of a looney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/766">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► that and it just goes limp and I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► the airplane in the center of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► little hole of light as it falls away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► from me and i managed to fight off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► completely passing out but just barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/783">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► and then the parachute and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► sudden you're hanging about your hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► under a canopy and only then do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► realize that you're hiding under a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/796">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► canopy like 6,000 feet above the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/797">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► outrageous feeling because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► because you know your beer see your feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► and your but keep trying to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► chair you're just like where everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/813">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► every impulse I mean you know you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► people to the movies they look cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► stuff in the every impulse your body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► would have at that point would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► asinine to turn into a spectator because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► first of all I would shoot myself pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► sure I would shoot myself in the plane i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► would reshape myself on the strut and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► then i would probably just periodically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/833">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► continue to shit as I felt through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/834">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► I it was it ended up being totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► fantastic when you do definitely at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► first feel like I mean to be completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► I mean I'm just thinking it must be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► think about like waterboarding and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► makes waterboarding so awful is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► situation that your body there the they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► are capitalizing on something that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► body does like autonomic Lee which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► like to try and stop you from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► choking and they can emulate the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► of drowning in a very controlled way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► which is horrifying and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► every instinct you've never experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► anything like a freefall that ended with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► anything but horrible injuries seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► like every second of the way at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► first you your body would just be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► body and your mind will just be reeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► yes that was fall I guess and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► you're under the parachute you keep your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► instinct is like i said to like get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► on Kelly bicycling you're like I'm now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► i'm hanging and i would now like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► hanging by a by a harness and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► like to get back on this chair that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/896">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► fell off of i would like to get back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► behind and then you know you look up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► you see this little insect of a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► which is now miles away and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► oh right there's no getting back on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► now here I am what I'm on is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► parachute but and it was great they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/913">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► didn't do they didn't give you any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/916">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► training for the parachute but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► one of those parachutes that had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► was maneuverable right it had handles on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► both you know ropes on either side that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► you could pull and and make the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► turn so we can actually works it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► them it's amazing it's like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/931">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► maneuvering you do the faster you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► descend so I was really enjoying being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► up in the sky because you're slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► compromising the canopy nosov it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► order to steer right let me drop when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► you drop you dropped to give yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► you know to carve turns or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► but it's a faster descent so I didn't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► you have to balance the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► goofing around you want to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► amount of time that you want to spend in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► this extraordinary state which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► you're flying that's as close as I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/964">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► come to it's a flight right an extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/968">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► wow just you just up there flatfoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► gonna be here some flapping fabric how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► long it you know how long it took to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/979">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► no but it was a but it was a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► well let's see it probably wasn't 6,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► feet either it was probably 4,000 feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► and I mean it lasted a couple of minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► but it was they were peak minutes 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► minutes maybe I mean I don't who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► i'm behind how do you land i mean isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► well so then as you come in for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► landing you you pull down on both sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► of the of the rope and it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► stalled you like I stalls you and I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► a pinpoint landing right on the circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► and you can stay on my feet didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► kidding no it's not like it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► world war two where you land and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► break your leg like that with the fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► fast right isn't it yeah and when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► dropping troops into Normandy like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► need to get them out of the sky as fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► as possible get them out of the sky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► so you were falling at a steady rate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► you had no control over how fast or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► you know you or how to steer you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► were those parachutes were just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► drop you where they were going to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► you and that's why all those guys ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► up in trees are hanging from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► travelocity scotch the whole program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► they ended up going to and landed in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► whole different town and then having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► catch back up right had to catch back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► and that was that easy whistles and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► of them didn't have their guns and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► clickers cookie clickers that's in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► was this clicker you so but these pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► modern parachutes and I'm sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► modern parachutists right special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► infantry guys I'm sure they have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► control over their parachutes are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► yeah although i'm not sure if every one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► of the if you dropped four hundred guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► out of the back of an airplane and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► one of them could steer his parachute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► clusterfuck right because every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► single guy be like I want to go over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► here and then they don't give details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► the kids what they want to go to dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► exactly it would be it would be like am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► it would be like a petri dish of sperm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► or something so you made it and has she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► did she jump she jumps she did great she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► was very much like you know she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► maintained total confidence throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► the whole thing and then at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► the day on the drive back we had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► kind of fight some kind of argument in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► I don't remember what it was about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► it was clear that that was our last date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► jumping out of the airplane was our last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► date because because it is one going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► it felt like it felt like you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► way it's better that we went parachuting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► to try and save our relationship then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► having a baby but it was one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► like all right well let's you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► let's go let's go jump out of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► airplane and see if that like bonds us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► and in fact what it did was it just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► oh and then later that summer I was down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► in Seattle's like ritzy neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► walking past a kind of a ritzy French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► restaurant with a nap with outdoor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► seating and she jumped up and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► like John hey I want you to meet my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► fiance and he was some really preppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► rich feeling rich smelling guy and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► was during a that summer was kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► phase I was going through a phase they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► were i was like what am I am I am I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► a grunge loser or mi like a straight guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► who should get a a banking job like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► know cause I like you finally settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► that self-doubt yeah thank you who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► are what you see this boy was worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► to get through that it was that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► tough time I'm glad to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► yeah well anything was I didn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► I was just like oh I'm good luck to both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► of you like hooray for you and I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► felt like right Yes I am NOT at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► that whole part of college where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► in college you're kind of looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► your mate and then you're going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► off on your life's path together i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► sure whether I this is one of those big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► questions did I decide to trial and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► error and trial and error decided you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► exactly what i learned that that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► who I was or did that it ended up that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► was that wasn't who I was I never worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► and the worst part is when you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► know and you're probably wrong I my arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► my wife and I met we're both on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► rebound from along each of us had been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► long serious relationship and so of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► course you know you and your kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► bonding quickly in this new relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► you talk a lot about the other person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► don't I think we've been together maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► a week a week or so when we're walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► past a coffee shop and she goes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► whoa one week yeah yeah and what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► funny was that I felt like I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► Woody Allen in Annie Hall like when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► and you know where a nice talk so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► about this this ex of hers maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► Manhattan anything with it was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► this little homunculus of a man she met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► this guy sounds so so like he's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► nice guy but you know it's it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► uncomfortable hate that feeling well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1314">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► then you decided to get married you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► yeah eventually yeah yeah see I never I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► yeah I I wonder what that would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► what I have to make you probably have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► change the house a little bit yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► know I would have said that for having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► kid too and you probably do some basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► baby-proofing or maybe not but uh put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► she's still free to go look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► Braille playboys absolutely how she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► gonna get an education otherwise you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► gonna learn Braille find out which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► your stereo system to buy yeah I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► I all of that College experimentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► I feel like a lot of a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► take they can look back at their college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► experimentation and feel like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► part of a project that delivered them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► somewhere i get the ultimate they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► they can impose a structure or a plan on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► in retrospect oh yeah but then that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► when you're still that's when you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► young enough to think things happen for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► yeah and now the problem is that none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► that it for me ever seem to add up to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► path there's those all this College [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► experimentation and it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► different it was different but um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► different little little knob Yul's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► architecture everything along i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► yeah it was certain long shaped just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► one along a long shift experience but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► what it turned out was that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► building a long sigh i was having long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► shaped experiences and what I needed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► a different kind of organ I needed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► bioengineering they deliver us together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► the other thing is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► sometimes just because the pattern looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► like a long that mean it's a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► well so okay that's true too now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► what that's what I'm saying I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► like that's to be to finally get to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► age where you are really broken by life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► and you stopped seeing those patterns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► you know you don't you don't realize at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► the time how chaotic and misshapen your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► life is and how much like at least for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► me like how much I was always reacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► to something that had happened in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► past I don't make stop how about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► level I always felt like I'm fixing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► thing about life and then of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► was you know kind of fun fixing 50,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► other things at the same time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► there's no there's not really any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► pattern to it except that you stayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► alive and isn't that weird if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► kind of where i'll end up look at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► didn't die that's you if you try to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► to me lessons out of life you turn into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► a crazy person didn't I didn't I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► and ultimately I guess what a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► hmm and also the novel is our fractal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► they're like miniature lungs inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► lungs reiterating I think that's true i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► think if you get down inside of a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► and you get really microscopic on it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► just a it's a four losses call quick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► all the way down and what I was building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► was it was a fractal was like fractal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► long and and and what I needed was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► maybe the need is the wrong word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► anything you take away from the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► today please just let it be this make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► sure that you're actually building an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► organ you may not be building Morgan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► may not even need to build an organ but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► if you're going to build an organ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► understand the organ that's being built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► and we might need two of them so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► already probably never gonna get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► that's right if you get down inside of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► heart I don't think it's hard to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► way down oh no no no hearts are made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► ugly things right not novels no hearts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► are made of Valve's em an out-and-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► so our car motors is that right yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► the engine doesn't beat up those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► cylinders to throw up the cylinders move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► kinda like the way to get you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► arteries in the ventricles that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► called nobody calls ventricles you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► four chambers right that's right baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► is that right am I saying the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► words I honestly don't remember any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► yes have the answer readily at hand you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► think I feel like I feel like a orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► an aorta is the main vein here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► difference between us and bring you here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► in vain visit us in you listener is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► we're just saying words and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► listening to this while you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► at Wikipedia that's the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► that's how much smarter you are is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► you're looking wikipedia and we're no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► more puzzles no I know isn't that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► makes bruises when you papa what papa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► valve when you pop out what is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► no I think that cover your puzzle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► what sticks on the outside of a boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► yeah you have to capture your heart this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► episode of Roderick on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1617">TS</a>]
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00:27:36 ◼ ► footwear and more now here's the cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1656">TS</a>]
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00:27:50 ◼ ► roasted coffee unless you're some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► of an animal who doesn't like coffee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► I'll send your magazine but hey you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► get twenty-five percent off your next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► order with need so please friends visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► need edition calm and need edition calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► / essentials are thanks to need for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► civilizing the modern man and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► um do you think of yourself as a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► of the tech community I used to very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► much so now it's I would consider myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► a secondary or tertiary member by other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► people maybe I don't use the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► twice and i usually consider myself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► you know a season technologists and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► i don't think that at all i'm confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► because there's no al just answer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► question quickly like it's this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► there's many kinds of people but one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► one way to break down how much of a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► person you are i think is how much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► are into the technology we kind of for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► its own sake vs 250 million other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► reasons and like I am increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► perfect perplexed by the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► genuinely interested in things like chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► speeds because I I'm not trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► disparaging but there's a time I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► think I was a tech person but they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► always been a little of a content person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► oh IC content content hate that word oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► when I look at pictures of you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► were in college with your with your that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► I don't like a pan and then for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► with your dread pirate roberts mustache [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► you know there's three people I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► be compared to in terms of looks this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► so implausible now Bakary Elway's mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► Michael Michael Palin and who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► other one but that people use to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► look like Carrie always carry always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► like on my best day I looked a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► like Harry always I I feel like it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► feel like you're so you back sorry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► just spoiled princess bride look back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► when you were when you were a smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► Taylor back when you were young guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► you were in the New York City subways do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► get in your army jacket with your big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► shit-eating grin on I got it figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► your little blond mustache you were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► scary always mhm on that hair at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► point in your life did you feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► I feel like at that time I was a member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► of a few i mean the thing is is I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► help but think of it this one way which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► when you asked this question so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► technology 12 is like my first thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► is do I consider myself a member of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► community but conversely does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► community consider me part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► community right which i think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► pretty different kind of thing but no at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► that time I was really I felt I'm want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► to it's very small school and I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► lot of friends so I you know I was in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► felt very connected to several music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► type communities that you remember of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► that's right and they considered you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► I saw them live in tampa hi Dean back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► the day is I dread zeppelin same venue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► what so i used to love going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► dread zeppelin all there around all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► fun time that we had some times didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► but done and the other ones were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► just the this not stony because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► i like I don't think of myself as like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► stoner dummy but I was very interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► in things like churches of genius know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► just what would become the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► annoying like research magazine culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► like I did consider myself like part i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► was very interested i was interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► extremity i was interested in Walter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► Hudson the the heaviest man in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► because I could still take 28 408 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► lunch every day for Big Macs four double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► cheeseburgers eight large orders of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► fries and a quart of coke while with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► 1400 pounds and so these kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► attracted me and partly it was stony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► stuff but like I was very interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► extreme and of course I was a cheerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► paranoiac up being a half-assed Marxist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► post Marxist i was very interested in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► all things paranoiac not strictly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► conspiratorial but very much like Howard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► deliberately being used to manipulate us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1918">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► right now see that right there that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► a huge part of college for me so yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► communities you know you never consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► yourself too much of a community guy at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► well you know I was members of i was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► member of a lot of different communities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► that didn't interact with each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► I felt I felt a kinship with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► community that you're describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► and you know and I thought and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► before there was a term for it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► that was called alternative culture it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► just seemed like all of those different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► things were sort of swirling around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► on the punk rock side of culture right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► that was like no it wasn't going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► it but basically the big Venn diagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► there's many many circles but almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► of them have at least seventy percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► their circle inside of punk rock from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► inside a punk right and when they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► be giants first arrived on the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► they were clearly coming out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► culture right they kind of embodied a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► sort of that it like you never knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► punk rock was going to produce next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► it was like oh now it's now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► producing this or I mean it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► was there was that there was a there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► a an excitement about weirdness an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► excitement about extremity it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► a really good DIY for sure right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► right on and what she could you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► that into something like independence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► but if not strictly anti-authoritarian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► very skeptical of people with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► answers in a method for implementing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► i saw i was driving here today and I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► a poster for a band on a phone pole and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► it was using sort of Soviet typeface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► Soviet font like fake fake Soviet I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► that car accident maybe like that pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► for the interview like that style right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► except not not so not so watered down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► like like in the style that we used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► do where it was like we didn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► have access to those typefaces so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► kind of making them ourselves or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► whatever and that that referencing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► referencing the soviet union in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► that was like four or referencing sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► of communist totalitarianism in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► that was maybe a little admiring but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► completely not completely so no but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► totally know what you mean it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► weirdly tongue-in-cheek like one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► my wife and I bonded on early as we both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► really like Maoist propaganda art I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► especially given that it's about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► cultural revolution or the Great Leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► especially even a 70 so it can't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► out much more almost like Norman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► Rockwell like almost photo-real but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► what's funny is like it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► isn't so much you're saying oh raw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► dude is that oh how different is stolen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► from reagan right absolutely absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► it was a response to Reaganism yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► remember some of that Maoist art makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► for some of the best to rule 34 porn if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► you're interested in searching for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► I had no idea because it's gonna take to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► working on that letter of luggage strap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► if you take that hyper realistic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► cartoony Chinese a like revolution art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► and you and you make it into porn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► Oh top shelf huh topshop if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► you're into light and China as a nexus 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► porn I don't get a lot of japanese porn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► John I don't think that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► Chinese that are making the porn out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► it i think it I think that's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► George offshore a little bit yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► they're outsourcing yeah anyway I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► felt a kinship with that culture but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► never thought of myself as a member of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► it because then I would leave that party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► and I would go across town to the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► where everybody was wearing that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► generation of patagonia fleece jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► yeah and they were all talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► waxing their boards and I felt also know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► that this is before it became the NPR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► look this is this is back when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► actually wearing it to stay warm outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► well when that was like when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► technical gear yeah or you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► that that that first generation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► second generation of Patagonia north [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► face was all meant to just be it will it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► hadn't become college kid close it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► meant to be worn when you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► some fucking bodacious there was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► when you can't count on this gear you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► you're hanging by a thread sorry um and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► so I you know also I was a member of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► it just as much that the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► were you know that were like living on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► their longboards but i wasn't i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► wasn't a member of that community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► anymore than i was a member of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► research but you're welcome to visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► unsane community I mean I was welcome i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► hope i thought of myself as well from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► everywhere and I still do and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► considered my charm you write that down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► but no one knows but it seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► certain point in your life and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► certainly been this been this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► where you arrive somewhere and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► pretty sure that at the very least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► party has now officially started now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► that you're right but negeri it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► everything but a name like a tribute to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► you right it's not quite a birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► party or a roast but like you are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► the guest of honor where everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► feel like I'd be like that I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► absolutely for a long time would maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► even walk in the door and say it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► who wants coffee it is fucking started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► let's get out until I saw until I met my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► match with a guy used to know who i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► out i was standing in the kitchen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► him at a party and he was like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► fucking party's boring and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► yeah sorta and he reached over into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► cupboard and pulled out a like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► industrial-sized like gallon of honey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► and i was like no this is not gonna end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► well I was like what's gonna happen now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► he just grabbed the honey and he opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► the honey up and poured it on his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► oh dear a gallon funny in the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► the kitchen and it was like well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► party just got really interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► I'm glad I'm not the guy covered in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► honey like this guy this guy took one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► for the team he made he made the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► because that gonna be good for including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► him it wasn't good for anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► yeah it wasn't good for the for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► homeowners know honey but that the 15 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► us who were standing around and watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► it happen it was unforgettable it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► I'm how to go and get on the York to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► that would have been memorably it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► basically it was a sheet he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► took a sweet shit on the floor and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► took it took the party to another level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► and I'm still talking about 25 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► later but uh but you know I also was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► member of the like i was doing an improv [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► then a like theater sports and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► animal thing I knew that all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► people in my theater sports troop were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► completely off the off of whatever your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► normal reservation would be right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► a lot of them were religious lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► people at that time that I knew in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► theater and profit that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► that negatives just anecdotal but number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► of people I knew who are into that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► into it like you know there's the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► who read the key johnstone book and skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► the section on masks and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► people who really really read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► section on masks like I'm more like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► I want to make want to be the dell close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► guy I want to go be the upright citizens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► brigade guy and they're more into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► no like this goes deeply into something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► about my mind and my psyche and find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► people I knew in theater in in the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► eighties were very also very into things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► like psychoanalysis and like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► uncomfortable because they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► improv was more like to come in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► house and ask you the most uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► thing in the world which is like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► your deal to I that is not really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► at that a little bit of that a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► bit about introduce you to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► this is this is John be careful because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► in the next couple minutes he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► try and find the thing you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► him to know about its most gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► it's just so you know you can prevent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► it's gonna happen I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► what's coming up the key was that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► the thing that they are the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► they least one other people to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► about is just there on their face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► it's written on their face TI and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► wish that I did not have that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► that ability to see I wish I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► have that site i wish i could blind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► I because it its it often is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► friend that's interesting though that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► yeah right and and my theater sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► troops especially given that it was at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► Jesuit college had a lot of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► and all of that psycho analysis and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► of that like hyper kinkiness was tied up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► in their 20-year old wrestling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► their religion you know they were have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► they were they were a lot of them deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► Catholic and really really engaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► their Catholicism through these you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► psychoanalysis with solecism as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► it's a guy's trip that's a lot of doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► I wouldn't want to open its a heavy trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► in the thing about the Jesuits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► Jesuit schools is that that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► obviously have we've talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► before half of the population are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► jocks who are going to own pontiac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► dealerships and they're headed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► that's just where they go right for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► for rich kids but half of the people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► true intellectuals and Catholicism with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► that intellectual tradition got it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► suckled tangled up in people and they uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► the conversations that we would have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► the and the journeys we would go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► because you know its theater sports or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► or improve so we would go on retreats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► together we were how do you rehearse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► improv right you just do it over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► over and you just get inside one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► another's mind let's it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► Yeah right right right and we would we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► would you know I would leave my like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► stoner metal party idea and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► was i I never revealed any one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► groups i never revealed my membership in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► these groups to one another right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► never tried to bring friends from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► place and take him to another place so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► I'd be I'd be like stoner metal land and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► then be like all right you guys see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► later out just like you've got to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► going bros and then i would like shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► it off get outside in the cold air take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► a deep breath check it off walk across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► town and then you know into some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► brightly lit lunch room where all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► like super earnest intellectual Catholic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► kids were doing theater sports and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► now get given ok give me an animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► alright great you give me a give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► u.s. forte was like those of the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► genres all the different kungfu schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► of improv I feel like theater sports was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► really was more serious i mean i like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► think they're serious and like they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► close you know famously said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► you want to go for like what's real in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► this in the in the moment not don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► for the funny and I memory serves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► theater sports takes up the kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► extreme it really does you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► don't do bits know and the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► the people that would come into the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► come try out for our group who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► wacky wacky it was like nope complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► order we were all like really trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► get every time and cost though they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► like my arm my niece is a does UCP in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► New York and like you come in and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► you he paid to take classes that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► great you see these great let me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► question please don't hurt my family but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► like you come in and you pay fees to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► take classes and pretty soon you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► teaching classes and it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► Arthur Murray is this pyramid scheme but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► it's an inverted comedy pyramid or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► triangle and this is what happened to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► like after the first year our theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► sports group was really really popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► in spokane because there wasn't a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► going on in Spokane and people were mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► we were selling out sort of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► theater at the college and selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► tickets to the to the town not just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► the college and the guy who came into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► town who was 24 and started this theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► sports group was a coffee gots when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► were there it was called guts look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► gonzaga university theater sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► that's right wow um he started we send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► out so i was in that first year of guts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► and then he this 24 year old guy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► think he was from Canada we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► meeting at the end of the year and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► were all just so thrilled with ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► and he was like I have to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► but now that cuts is going now that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► that my brother this project is often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► I'm leaving you and going on to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► place and starting another theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► sports somewhere else and i'm leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► you here to to grow kind of Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► Appleseed Lone Ranger character that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► right and we were all like what's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► don't me because we were terrified of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► changing any one element other sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► because it was working and it will and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► you know and and so he said so he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► appointed me his successor as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► leader of guts first first the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► season and right away I became a monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► like immediately I I he had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► despot in a way in a way i became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► desperate because he had that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► this sort of that the beautiful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► which I which I am always trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► which I'm very attracted to and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► people in which i'm always trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► discover the secret of which is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► this open friendly attitude and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► feeling where people are doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► either doing hard work but they but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► don't resent the work because every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► they look over at you you are smiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► specifically at them and it takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► certain kind of personality very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► people can't do that authentically yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► personality and it is a kind of magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► and we he somehow managed to keep that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► initial group of people that started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► he kept out he kept people out of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► much as he kept us together like part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► keeping us together was but he curated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► that's interesting but like I'm having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► small company right if you got to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► all that time with these people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► chemistry and ability to not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► get along but field work together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► yeah is important to maintain yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► message was a little culture there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► lot of love between us and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► people there were intercom petitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► there are definitely people that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► that had rivalries but whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► also had a real family vibe and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► second year it seemed that the mandate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► that had been handed me was now open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► up and make it bigger and invite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► everyone in and and turn it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► something you know to spread the love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► you steve jobs in your john skelly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► i think that a technical reference and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► did the John I did the John Sculley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► thing which was i I ran it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► ground or try to and and and and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► didn't you know we we started having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► auditions for 422 just to bring new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► people in and because it was successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► it attracted all be attention-starved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► SEO is michael douglas in a chorus line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► on a sitting there just the shadowy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► figure with curls smoke around his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► and everybody's just gotta hope I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► don't forget it got Napoli that's who i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► thought of myself downs but the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► was that have choppers well we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► because we were such an egalitarian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► group before that that our leader had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► been this outsider this guy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► mustache who came from canada and and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► was he was one of these people with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► big smile who just sort of made you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► like it was your idea but kept the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► on the rails and all of a sudden I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► sitting in the back of the room with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► beret shrouded in cigarette smoke going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► next next and these people can handle x3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► i want to i want to be in theater sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► I was meant for the stage and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► next and the other the other people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► my original group were they didn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► they felt like what I was doing was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► in the spirit of of the magic and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► like I'm trying to preserve the magic by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► keeping all these dorks out of our out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► of our special place and they were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► no we need to have we need to invite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► everyone in and so I was like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► well fine then we'll how about these six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► guys they seem like you know they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► join the group or whatever and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► like yeah and then those six people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► like came in and and we're doing jazz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► hands all over the place and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► no jazz hands know and have eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► let us just cut to the chase eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► I was deposed there was a was a coup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► there was a coup i arrived at a meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► that was that had obviously already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► you're really good at knowing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► you're walking into an intervention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► I've been two years you've gotten really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► good at that yeah but I'm I know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► at the time I had not had not had so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► many interventions yet and i walked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► everybody's here already soon and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► seems like everybody's all now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► I walked in and of course conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► stopped and everybody turned and looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► at me and I was like oh this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► be sitting in your chair and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► it was i was given that i was given that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► choice we would like you to just be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► oh boy and not be our fearless leader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► are annually the american apparel guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► but luckily I've you go buddy time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► you to go but the end so the leadership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► democratic form where they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► be four leaders how what could possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► go wrong and i was like i would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► I would rather burn i would rather burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► this theater with all of us in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► wouldn't be a member of this garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► this garbage arrangement and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► stormed I ran out into the snow and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► and one of the girls chased me for chase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► me out into the field chain shame and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► think it's not one I need a job what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► the occupation ok pizza at one point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► might have even tripped in the snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► no John and I fell in the snow and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► the end and she she came and and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► console me it was all very dramatic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► we were we were artists we as we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► theater artists and then then I stayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► away and then the final show of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► i watch the show from high up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► rafters above the victim if you like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► family over exactly like that happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► at one point during during a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► the girl who had chased me out into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► snow my love interest on guts was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► was doing a scene and somebody said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► know like give me an animal and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► like Amy goal and she looked up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► know pointed up in the middle of her of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► a scene like there goes the eagle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► she pointed at me and then she saw me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► oh no she saw me hanging up in the ropes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► and and she looked and she made eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► contact with me and big smile and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► smiled down to her from five feet five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► stories up and it was just like my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► really is a movie you slugged back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► her organ room and it's my role the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► suite j and the rafter and i was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► i'm i'm a member of no group everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► there's own don't know I'm just thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► of this now but and I something a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► weeks ago turns out this story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► where clicks are more likely to form and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► whether or not likely to form and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► turns out part being that there aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► nearly as many clicks in like high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► schools as people would have you believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► in the changes on this based on the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► of the high school but you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► say there's this part of me that feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► this is so obvious and so don't but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► so much of what I think something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► high school was supposed to look like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► think was kind of largely based on John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► Hughes movies or things you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► things that movies that became that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► you know that they're real or even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► know she treating the outsiders or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► whatever but I really got this idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► the different groups and things when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► look back in retrospect there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► more subtle subtlety to it then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► realize that the time you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► why is that again i can show like freaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► and geeks really captures that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► captures the idea that now you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► striving to have these cooler friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► but you still got your left school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► friends and and that I even that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► change like suddenly your friend gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► growth spurt and becomes a sports star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► or something there's always ways with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► it's much more fluid than I remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► seeming at the time it all felt very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► carved in stone and we're retrospect I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► realize what a clusterfuck the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► well and tribulations you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► saying that makes absolutely absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► and in in high school at my high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► experience was was was very John qz my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► college experience was where i got can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► make up very confused and I and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► really didn't understand where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► belonged in fact the college friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► that I have still the the people I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► in college that are still friends of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► but I wasn't friends with in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► really or or was it was it was a it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► very fraught that you know because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► because i was in school in spokane there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► was a whole component of the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► came to that school who were from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► Montana and North Dakota and Idaho who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► were mostly Catholics all Catholics um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► and by Alaskan standards they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► were clearly wild kids right they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► from these towns these tiny Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► towns where you would drive for seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► hours to get to buildings like oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► gotta get you know we need a new part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► for the tractor well we got everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► the truck and throw a couple of hay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► bales in the back for the kids and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► we're going to drive for seven hours to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► I mean that will do a job on you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► kid for sure and you know its water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► these 11 horse towns right like a-a-a-a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► western town with a main street makes um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► you have such different expectations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► what's the word I'm looking for but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► like if you you know i remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► first in the first several times I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► to Manhattan immediately experiencing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► experiencing having that feeling of hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► that work contributes experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► something i had killers fire stop saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► uh-huh um anyway I was heavily impacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► / that feeling of options iety like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► over the village voice and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► where as in back in Florida you plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► ahead you know but what band you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► see three weeks from now and you open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► a paper and like just in the village [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► voice like just within walking distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► of where you are there's like 10 of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► favorite bands playing right and any the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► result of that is if you're like me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► just going to just sit here and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► watch golden girls or whatever right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► yeah yeah and I mean I wonder if is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► people did that really nice really feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► like the big city for somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► used to drive into Billings so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► back with so anyway these guys I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► of them as the Montana boys and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► had grey cowboy boots they all sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► dip snuff at is at a distance you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► think that they were just pics just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► ignorant dummies but then you would meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► them and you realize like oh shit this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► is this kid is the smartest kid from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► town he is the kid from whatever town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► that got to spokane to go to college and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► that they can he achieve not to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► unkind but he achieved escape velocity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► in a way that must seem impossible to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► yeah astonishing and so these guys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► wise and they were they were sharp only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► uh yeah well and also but also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► again coming from a pretty religious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► background and from a very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► initially very small world in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► spokane was like big big world and um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► and so there was a lot of culture clash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► between us initially because even coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► from Alaska I was much more worldly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► honestly their initial take on me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► that I was a fag right i mean you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► showed up in school and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► everybody come on let's go away and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► was wearing a bowtie whatever they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► this guy is a queer and it was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► through you know is only through my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► willingness to throw myself through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► plate-glass window over time but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► like that's right rowdy clear that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► pretty much you got that right cowboy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► second that's my drag name rally bowtie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► spin and so it ends up now that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► really good i'm still really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► buddies with those guys because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► because our relationship evolved over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► time in a way that they had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► suspicions about me and I had a ton of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► thought I knew I thought I knew them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► it that they were just hick Republican [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► right you know nobody's and now I I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► they're the ones that i still am close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► well and i have to i had that weird time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► at one point during college we went I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► went on a road trip with these guys to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► Sun Valley a car full of the Montana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► boys and they were bringing me along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► kind of like like a Nazca ya like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► we're gonna guess what we're all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► to Sun Valley and we're taking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► what's that what could happen anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► we got to Sun Valley one of these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► had an uncle who lived in sun valley who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► took us into his house he's one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► guys walking around the house smoking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► cigar tricks into the house and he had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► walk-in safe full of machine guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► it was like you guys want to see my guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► and I was like yes and he what we walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► through the bedroom and there's a vault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► like above a fucking volt and the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► opens and you can walk in and is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► just a heavy locked door it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► solid of room an impenetrable room it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► basically a I felt a bank vault or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► yeah but it's for that there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► arsenal in there and that was just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► one that was just the one that was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► the aspect of his house that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► willing to show his nephews college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► friends like she didn't see but as part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► of this road trip we went to we went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► Butte Montana which um which you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► charitably described as the asshole of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► the universe right i mean it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► hey i'm gerry did I think you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► that's a Richard Hugo a reference my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► second finger at at at one minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► exactly one hour exactly a rigid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► know and what I want to let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► it's about an hour so don't start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► talking about politics i'll mention mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► Hugh ok alright that'll be our comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► anyway you got that you got the gun safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► you'll see it as guys will go we go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► butte and we go to visit one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► guys is housed in butte and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► them were from Butte which you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► not know I wouldn't call it a big town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► but it's a big town in an apartment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► government anyway this kid was from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► of the best families in butte and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► home was a beautiful home like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► columns columns like stone columns as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► felt like old money old money right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► gracious living room and a ver and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► family very elegant family and likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► that maybe there was silver money there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► and yet this gracious home which in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► Francisco would be a 40 million dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► home is two blocks from the Berkeley pit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► in downtown butte downtown Butte which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► still believe an enterprising software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► person could buy the entire town like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► the whole place just has a feeling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► like a bomb went off in the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► the town which it did in the form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► that silver mine and and the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► contrast of like oh this this guy that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► thought was just kind of like a western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► is is from this incredible place this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► like beautiful this elegant gracious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► family in a gracious home in a town of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► few thousand people really perched on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► the lip of the world and i have no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► of understanding where he's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► right you know like I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► there was no way for me to really get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► head around like just the contrasts just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► the study in contrasts of that one kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► experience let alone that his uncle had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► a safe full of machine guns but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► it's fine yesterday I heard just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► little bit of Jesse thorn interviewing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► what's-his-name Offerman you know Ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► Swanson oh yeah Keith Keith Keith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► nothing is it Keith Offerman now keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► the read the sports guy i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► mean Ron Swanson from the curse curse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► his name is a million Ron Swanson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► here down Nick Offerman Gary Gary Nick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► Gary he seems interviewing McGary this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► kind of famous he talked about how he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► going out like there's this rep for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► being you know there's this manly man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► guy and yeah she got a mustache right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► he's the one exactly looks like an angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► cat and he said he was raised and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► rural ish i guess Illinois and long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► everybody's talking like it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► funny to him because you know he yes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► does own and have employees to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► woodworking like he actually does you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► many is like a manly man but also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► he's the only one in his family that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► went to school for theater and took two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► semesters of ballet so you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► kind of thing where like I guess you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► trying to say is that alright we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► he's a rowdy where g is probably jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► through share plate-glass windows but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► think part of it like getting in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► just shows you how how productive i am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► guess but sometimes it seems like except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► for the most tolerable people in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► description for almost everybody will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► this 11 bit flips and you go oh he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► or you know she's a theater nerd or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► know he's he's a nerdy programmer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► whatever and so must i think that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► order to survive you know with many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► people around us like the older we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► the more were instantly making one big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► decisions about people going oh you fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► in this box you fit in that box you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► in that box and there may be people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► where you get one bit plus a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► of an axis where you go like oh like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► know he's he's a and I get it he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► manly man actor but he also has taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► ballet haha isn't that interesting but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► think what happens is when you get too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► much past that one bit thing especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► with strangers you quickly go from I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► you because you're in this box to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► are weird and weird is when you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► understand what feels like a conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► about to into your apprehension of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► somebody if you look at John Roderick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► and go like wow he sure he you eat he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► drinks a lot he dresses like a preppy he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► does theater sports and he was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► trying to like make it with this girl in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► a turquoise belt like you know that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► makes you weird because there's not one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► narrative that runs through all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► apart from the fact that it was you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► this isn't insightful but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► that I think the I feel like the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► get raised in most mainstream American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► culture is to quickly go from 0 I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► your one bit too like oh you're weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► because I can't rock the multitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► yeah well that's why i asked what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► are not a member of the tech community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► now if you are a member of the post tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► community are you would you describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► yourself as most a member of my used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► think of myself as a blogger i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► thought of myself as a podcaster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► what's interesting or useful about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► is it both describes like what I do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► I like and who I want to hang out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► which i think is what a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► kinds of names means golden lager it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► doesn't get used to these two kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► mean something because like I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► pretty popular website and I knew people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► have popular websites and fucking cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► but that's that real i think it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► true today kinda with podcasting i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► super into that i'm not at all into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► I'm find that fatiguing but I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► I like the people who do that by and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► large and I don't like packet loss now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► see that's that's the kind of quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► she got to actually worried about you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► oh really tell you about it later yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► three times faster than the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► can't wait to hear about it might need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► to talk about talk about that offline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► and now what about you because you seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► em now we'll full but you seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► you're pretty well and you've heard me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► say before the one reason i admire Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► Dylan and I'm new young you name it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► either the kind of people who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► as soon as somebody put a label on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► they're like oh you have no idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► then go into something else I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► admire that even with self-defeating I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► really admire people who are reluctant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► to be labeled by others and that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► to me a big narrative for you is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► don't like people telling you you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► you don't like people telling you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► so what hard sometimes be part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► community because you seemed resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► yeah I i and and and particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► because arm because I always well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► after three days or five days with any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► ok guys the guys get out of here see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► later and then I go in there and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► some and I and I join another community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► for a little while and you know them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► there's this experience I've had in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► middle age of being embraced by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► Nerds has been the the most because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► because they're the Nerds embraced me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► a way that was that was very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► than indie rock like indie rock and rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► and roll don't really embrace you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► or at least they didn't i didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► embraced exactly who you know like indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► rock and rock and roll are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► you try to gain admission to and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► step of the way you feel like every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► comfortable like AI kind of belong here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► but unless you're some kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► doing outsider art and getting name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► difficult to say you know unless you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► really being propped up by the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► and the money's in that industry is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► difficult to say you've been embraced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► yeah right or or I mean if your John Doe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► who and everywhere you go you just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► like every every rock and roll situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► you walk into you a s it you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► you belong right i mean Debbie Harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► also helps the heat doesn't mind if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► it's like a wonderful quality of here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► and the amazing thing about John Doe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► if you have no idea who he is he looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► amazing right i mean you know where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► he's genuinely super nice super nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► and like so John Doe everywhere he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► he talking about when I see him to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► to my daughter way more than he talks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► me of course right that's understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► how do you feel like going to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► listen to this record in a way he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► the sam shepard of rock'n'roll right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► right right he's he's just these keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► from another era and he any and so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► belongs that I never felt when I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► walk into rock and roll seen it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► feel like the that's something just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► inherent in them in in the machine of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► rock-and-roll it's not meant to it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► meant to embrace everybody you it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► yes but with the nerds I was like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► you know like walking through an airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► and the harlingen friendagenda beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► ya like like don't think you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► thank you and yet they were relentless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► and eventually I was like oh I guess I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► am i am here i have my member of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► a great way to think of it I have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► many fuckin beads on me now it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► little disingenuous to claim that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► not a part of this gang but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► gatherings even in seattle where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► with a group of people that I consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► my friends there's five or six of us we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► have a long history together we sit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► talk about the old days and we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► plans for something for the next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► and those people do not know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► anything about the people that i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► to go visit next and have that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► experience with so so I still am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► person that is extra community and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► the the community whatever community it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► is i'm a member of I'm kind of the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► member and that's not really at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► description of a community really now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► it's a yeah and and and and I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► about it i wonder what's next and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► I and I wonder because of this idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► the artists and of the fact that i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► to make art and I want it to be and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► and I'm comfortable with the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► I'm not a genius but I want my art to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► good and the and that was a problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► years because I what I wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► initially was a genius and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► realize that you want to be recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► yeah right and just to make the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► that you're there to make and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► people be like this is fucking genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4438">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► and when you make the thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► there to make people go through that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► yeah and you realize like oh ok I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► a genius is very much how it is today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► what else you got right i mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► what I mean it isn't like you can spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► two years working on your latest magnum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► opus and then right on that like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► and more it's like what what do you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► are you doing wait on the last three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► yeah that was pretty good that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► they made one time I was pretty good uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► what else you got anything no I'm fine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► so what would your next likely today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► wait a minute you're supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► lionizing something I did ten years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► but the challenge and it seems that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► know this is this is it handicapped me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► but I'm starting to recognize that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► really that puts a lot more emphasis on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► the work you know and it and it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► so that you have to really work hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► make the best thing you that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► and there is a line somewhere and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► like I'm on it where if you do lazy work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► then what you're making just doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► if I if I rule and yourselves but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► there's also the sirens call and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► want to sound cynical or like I'm being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► critical which I probably a.m. but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► other thing to be careful of we joked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► few weeks ago about like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► make sure you got a big philosophy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► what you can do before ever fuckin make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► anything I mean the problem is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► with it's become extremely easy to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► a community around anything which on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► face of its really that's a great thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► it's better than the other of the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► know opposite but you could and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► always you know having fun with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► seduction community those guys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► those kinds of groups but you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► yourself extremely involved in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► I especially if it's something like a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► i like to say Facebook group about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► creative productivity like that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► that's a really interesting community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► and every second you spend with them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► taking away from what your nominally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► there to be doing my research every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► you're sitting there talking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► to make chix so you can bag and eight or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► whatever like you're sitting in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► fucking computer talking to other men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► have included the seduction community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► absolutely could you know you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► you don't know about negging no action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► I don't know what seduction community is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► not as I feel I feel so much like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► everything that's that somebody is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► to say and then you come out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► something that I just have no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► nothing that you just said has i have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► heard anything about you should sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► for the forms seduction to me what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► have 10,000 times officially a salami [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► um yeah iiii iiii think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► ramones right who just did the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► thing over and over for 40 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► that that thing was so great that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► was just they could just keep doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► and I and everybody wishes they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► still alive so it was so elemental that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► the less they added to it the better god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► right right and I mean even liking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► adding adding one or two minor chords is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► need a rock opera what we love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► this is the two minutes of it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► yeah two minutes and like don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► get fucking to Petty and don't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► her clothes and don't really just makin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► this song is a minute and 34 seconds all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► right and the last four seconds is fade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► out now I want to have something to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► now i want to sniff some glue now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► 123456 and then play a different part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► make the first part that I don't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► do well so but so uh I just feel I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► increasingly like the group that i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► to be a member of the the but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► real like culture or community that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► want to be a part of is the community of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► people who are making good things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► that no matter what you think about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► or no matter what you think and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► there and there's no pretense that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► that it's genius but that that you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► at it and you go that is fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► um and that is a and that is a community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► that I guess is like across all all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► spheres and you don't you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► that's one of those internal ad-hoc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► backstage before you use the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► say oh yeah I like your stuff to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► great shows but you might actually mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► fuck you did that thing that was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► like wow I mean that's my greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► reaction you can get from somebody can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► right right and and it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► theirs meetings in dues and buttons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► shit there's no you don't arrive you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► yeah I don't commute very informal you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► don't sit around every saturday either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► it is very informal and it's kinda where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► I where I have felt I've been living a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► little bit on the phone that on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► fringe of you for a long time and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► yeah so this year I really hope to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► to focus on on that and and focus less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► on on feeling excluded and more on just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► making a place for myself in and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► community of a of my aspirations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► it's pretty good you make that face book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► group between John the community John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► aspirations come on over we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► negatively chicks there is no rank of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► salami commander you get the mtn8 if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► if you get to be an eight on that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPWBTR8/4788">TS</a>]