The Incomparable

00:00:07 ◼   ► the incomparable number 198 april 2014 [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► I'm your host Jason L we have joined [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► together here to be a little more [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► current you know when a recent episode [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► we talk about a movie that came out in [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► the early eighties we're gonna mix it up [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► a little bit we're going to talk about a [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► movie that came out last week as we [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► record this [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► it's captain america the winter soldier [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► and with our snap judgments well with a [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► week to consider what we think of this [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► movie we thought we would talk about it [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► and be a little card for once so those [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► of you in 2016 who are saying that this [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► movie came out a long time ago why are [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► they talking as if its current it was [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► new to us [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► joining me to talk about the winter [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► soldier are a it's a stellar panel Tony [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► sindelar i'm going to introduce you [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► first how about that that's really weird [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► hello hello Dan Warren I always [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► introduce you [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► hello just working your way down the [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► list i see how it is [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► yeah that's that's it or up I don't know [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► Mark Tonio no moisture is too jaan is [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► here hello in Winter Soldier America [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► captain's you [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► yeah if you had the over-under at one [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► minute for Moises doing a voice you pick [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► the under a new one [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► good job all a returning panelist for [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► the first return hehe one guy didn't [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► like it when he talked about iron man [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► and you know what I say to that I invite [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► him back to talk about another Marvel [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► movie it's guy English hi guy [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► alright have to be here that's right so [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► take it that guy can you that time you [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► were on talking about i like i like this [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► guy way better than that i like this guy [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► does that guy that guy doesn't know guy [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► and I believe his first visit to the [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► incomparable am i right Rene Ritchie [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► hail Hydra Jason indeed [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► yeah well done i think Canada may just [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► be Hydra that's my theory [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► you and I are gonna get us running and [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► hiding in our play tennis Marvel phase [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► 2i guess this is that this is our second [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► Marvel I haven't I haven't seen i'm [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► going to make a confession i still [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► haven't seen thor 2 so I don't know what [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► the hell happens in that one but uh a [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► lot of have agreed i'm sure i'm sure [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► there is a lot of thighs and figures [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► that there's a whole there's a whole lot [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► of portal in there [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► I can't believe you aren't up to date [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► that makes me so Thor yeah Wow any [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► anyway uh but here we are [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► avengers the avengers is is coming on [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► and we get another post avengers movie [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► like iron man like Thor 2 it's a captain [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► america the winter soldier interesting [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► decisions they had to make for this [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► movie because of course the original [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► Captain America is spent spent mostly [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► during World War Two and I coming into [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► this movie what do you do when when [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► you're you're telling a modern-day story [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► up steve rogers and you know I I thought [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► for a long time they were going to do [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► one of those like you fade you know back [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► and forth and times they could do a lot [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► of of period stuff and they didn't this [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► is this is this is a thoroughly modern [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► story and it's kind of like Captain [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► America and the adventures of shield [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► because there's so much shield in here [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► there's a plaque there's black widow [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► there's Nick Fury lot lots of shield [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► stuff so I thought that was interesting [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► i owe you [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► I don't know people are making for puns [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► in the chat room by the way that's [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► really nice [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► it has to be done so let's start with [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► what do we think of the original Captain [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► America i should i should start there I [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► thought it was really good and I liked [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► that it was a it was a world war two [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► movie and this was a very different very [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► different tone this was a super [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► seventies conspiracy movie i think what [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► we have the first one which was Joe [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► Johnson who also directed the Rocket [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► right here at all you know [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► yeah and so I mean I think they picked [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► the perfect person for that job if if [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► you know Steven Spielberg was again sit [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► down and do another action adventure [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► world war two movie which is pretty much [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► that he won't [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► so you know I I thought it was really [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► cool and I like the idea of switching [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► gears because especially when you have a [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► character like Captain America who is [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► such a patriotic figure it's so much [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► more interesting to bring him into the [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► modern era where things are not as black [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► and white as they are in world war two [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► right in world war two we all knew who [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► the bad guys were Hydra clearly you know [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► and in a modern day things are not so [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► cut and dried and so it's interesting to [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► see you know how Steve Rogers as a [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► character deals with the fact that in [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► even in world war two he is like the [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► most clean-cut like he's the white hat [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► tonight like he is the most clean cetera [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► jazz yes [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► yeah well and that's what makes him so [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► perfect for that you know like for the [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► whole super-soldier project is that he [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► is the is the weak man who knows the [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► value of strength right so you know [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► putting him in a modern day where he has [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► to contend with the fact that the the [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► battle lines are not as clearly drawn [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► and America does not have quite as [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► untarnished an image it makes it more [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► interesting character i think in that [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► that really fuels lot of the story for [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► me I wouldn't the the thing that i would [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► throw in is I gotta find this this link [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► that made me want to burn the internet [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► down this this guy you know alleging [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► that well Captain America's only [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► interesting when he's a jerk [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► which I think misses the point of why [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► you tell Captain America story and I do [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► i i'm i'm going to say this right now [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► and I'm gonna be so mad be so mad at mr. [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► rails into a man of steel conversation [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► but characterization is very important [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► with easy these iconic characters [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► because they are built around [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► iconography and when that doesn't quite [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► jive you're telling a different story [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► and it's for me it's it's the cheapest [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► kind of a cop-out where we see [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► everything is getting dark and super emo [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► and super gritty and gravely and like [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► you're gargling razor blades with these [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► superheroes and i like that we get to we [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► get to we get to balance the you know [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► the man out of time the good-hearted [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► white hat man dealing with the the moral [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► quandary of the modern world which is [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► what we you know what comes from the [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► original comics but that I I feel like [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► they they put a nice fine polish to it [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► you know the best elements from the [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► original winter soldier story or in here [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► but they don't go too far overcorrecting [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► in either direction either the you know [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► the the paragon of virtue or the world [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► full of moral conflict you know we we [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► get we get enough of both ingredients [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► that it it feels balanced it doesn't [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► feel out of character [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► it's still jives with the first movie [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► though i would i would say that there's [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► a there's a character relationship [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► between Steve Rogers in a particular [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► character that I wish they'd established [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► more firmly more indelibly in the first [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► movie especially with what this movie is [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► and what represents I don't know four [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► different spoiler territory yes we [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► should say we are firing up the spoiler [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► warning you should not listen to this [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► podcast if you have not seen this movie [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► what is wrong with you [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► so 22 very plainly see what I was [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► alluding to [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► I really wish if there is one big thing [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► that I wish I could you know go back and [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► tweak from the first movie i really wish [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► that we've gotten a stronger more [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► indelible kind of touchstone to the [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► relationship between cap and Bucky where [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► there was some interplay but it you know [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► when we in this movie [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► flashback to pre winter soldier Bucky [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► there it's it's it's almost like OMG [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► this guy was in the first movie that's [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► right that that they didn't they didn't [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► sign post it quite well enough to [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► shorthand to get to the end with with [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► him in the present day in Captain [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► America means that we we miss that [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► there's like a montage of like and then [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► they had many exciting adventures and [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► instead of it being like we really get [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► to know [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► Bucky's there from the beginning it's [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► not written as if mucky is going to come [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► back right that's basically what it is [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► the first we've not really written with [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► the wow we're really gonna pay this off [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► later [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► even though they might have had an [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► inkling that was what going to be what [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► was gonna happen and it's all I think [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► because they had to compress there and [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► you know many exciting adventures in [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► World War two but let's get to the end [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► now I mean what were they going to do [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► other than winter soldier jump straight [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► to death of Captain America that doesn't [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► make any sense you know I it feels like [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► they they they knew that this was going [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► to be the next logical step [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► if the first one did well enough if [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► there was going to be a sequel that this [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► was going to be the next story that they [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► were going to do and and I feel like it [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► they they had to know that because I I [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► don't see what else they laid the [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► groundwork for because they planned this [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► stuff so far in advance you know they [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► have no card outlines going out to like [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► 20 26 years i'm not sure that they knew [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► that so so clearly that it was so clear [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► with Captain America Renee go ahead [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► you're going to say something was gonna [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► say that I agree with that i think that [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► there was some odd structuring issues [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► with the first movie i loved it [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► completely but I think there's a lot of [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► the setup and then that montage and then [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► the conclusion and it didn't really [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► allow them to establish that [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► relationship and one of my favorite [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► version because there have been many of [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► Captain America [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► is when he I think it's going to stop [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► the missile at and the missile blows up [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► and he falls into the ocean but but he [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► is there with him till nearly the end [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► and you see him seeing Bucky die and [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► that's a very powerful visual at the end [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► of his plummet into the ocean and in the [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► movie it happens so early on and then [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► you have all the Howling Commandos and [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► all the other characters in there [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► I think he does get lost amid all the [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► characters in the first movie in this [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► myth in the Smithsonian there's a UH [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► Howling Commandos exhibit which is funny [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► because it is like hey it's the guy from [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► that montage to note though [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► Sebastian Stan you play Bucky has been [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► signed apparently for like nine pictures [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► so they clearly knew they were going to [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► dosometing with him yeah they're gonna [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► kill captain america so yeah I think [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► that's it down cavity pretty likely that [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► the word for future movie star yeah boys [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► have you just speculative little [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► speculation pure speculation but you [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► know you know these comic books even is [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► good and they're not killed [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► ok i wanna i want to rewind a little bit [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► ok so if we talked about Captain America [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► being this moral force and in in a kind [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► of a a world with a lot of the greys and [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► a lot of questions and that's one of the [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► nice things about Robert Redford who is [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► I think a lot of fun in this movie [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► playing the kind of grizzled a spymaster [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► who's actually like in these Nick Fury [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► is boss he's got like he's on the the [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► secretive world Security Council examine [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► efforts which has been upgraded to full [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► body hot body Holograms from the google [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► hangouts that I mean they have injures [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► technology [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► yes it's improved the 10 and and but I [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► like him because he he just radiates in [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► that hole early scene with with Captain [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► America with Steve Rogers this you know [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► we compromise and do what we must in [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► order to keep America safe and he's he's [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► laying it out it's like I exist in a [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► moral gray area for America and Captain [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► America's like totally that is not [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► captain america right he's not about [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► moral gray areas but he is for America [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► and i love that I love that combination [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► and I thought that was a really nice [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► because we get you get some of that from [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► nick fury but but I'm a robber was like [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► the perfect person to [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► having that in that part and saying that [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► stuff in the end he's not the [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► compromiser really right with me hurry [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► and whipping been compromised like the [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► guy in the middle was like I'm trying to [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► please too you know like my both my [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► moral sense as well as like the [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► practical sense you know Robert Redford [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► yeah I was funny because i really expect [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► him to be that sort of politically great [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► figure guys I operated a gray area but [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► i'm going to usher in a fascist you know [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► what I mean world government turns out [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► trust me on this one my gray area is [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► called Hydra I believe in a mixed free [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► market economy but with fascism over all [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► of it [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► have you seen my drones they're very big [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► emphasize those drones that matter what [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► that's like i like i like this movie [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► better when it was three days of the [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► Condor to otherwise known as four days [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► of the Condor the captain america has [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► always been most interesting when the [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► values of America and America itself [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► have diverged and he sort of the person [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► around which all of that gets to play [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► out right right where he's running for [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► president or or even generally America [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► is not the greatest country in the world [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► Renee belgium has freedom [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► nah okay yeah-oh call me when Captain [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► Belgium's movie i would watch that i [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► would totally watch that there'll be [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► lots of waffles [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► this is a outrageous this is [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► anti-american nonsense and I won't stand [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► for it anyway I i want to mention so we [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► were talking about the the first movie [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► and although thatthat's not our topic [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► today it is worth talking about it to [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► one of the things that's in here that [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► I'm really glad made it in even though [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► it's sort of dumb have a lot to do with [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► the plot of this movie he goes and [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► visits Peggy Carter his sort of [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► girlfriend from the first movie and [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► she's an old she's a very very old lady [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► with a bad memory and they reminisce a [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► little bit and then she forgets that he [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► was there and I but I love that because [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► we never got that in the first movie in [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► the first movie they say goodbye [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► he crashed the plane he's frozen for a [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► long time and then he wakes up and then [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► we have the Avengers and that's a very [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► busy thing and he's got lots to do so [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► that was great because we finally steep [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► you know IM and with the other seems [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► like the the where he writes down things [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► that he needs to like the marvin gaye [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► album or or what he has seen more games [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► that was good that was a relief I really [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► this however [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► versions of that notepad depending on [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► what country you see the movie in those [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► certain things are universal including [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► Star Wars and Star exactly so i really [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► like that they finally got to do some [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► more man out of time stuff and they got [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► to pay off him meeting not meeting but [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► no being with Peggy Carter again I I [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► loved that they did all of that because [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► they could have just swept by and I [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► think as a viewer of that somebody [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► really like that first movie i'm glad [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► they went back to that and said look no [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► he is he's a man out of time and then it [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► pays off a little bit later with Arnim [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► Zola who's a seventies computer now but [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► it's nice that they don't they don't [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► overplay it like it could have turned [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► into you know sleepy hollow or something [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► like that place was rocking to turn into [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► a gag and they use it they deploy it [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► perfectly in the sense that also keep in [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► mind this guy is incredibly smart and [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► like a you know tactical and soldier was [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► he's going to figure out and adapt like [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► that's kind of what he does he's not [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► going to be like the bumbling uh you're [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► using automatic weapon right you know [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► he's gonna figure that out pretty quick [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► and so it i like that they did the nice [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► throwback to it's like he's writing [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► stuff down in a notebook right right and [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► you got a record player but he's [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► never-before-told by technology right [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► because that would be we'd all be really [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► said if Captain America is just like [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► wait which key to a hit i can never [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► remember my password directors actually [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► said they taught a modern combat styles [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► for this movie because they wanted it to [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► look like he done all his research and [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► get caught up with everything that i was [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► totally going to note that because if [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► you watch his fighting style here as [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► opposed to the Avengers and the original [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► Captain America he clearly knows martial [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► arts in this movie which is again I [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► think I'm brilliant move because yeah [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► he's a he's a soldier he is the soldier [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► he's not going to sit around be like and [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► I don't know you guys who invented all [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► these crazy Marshall started using the [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► band just stick with punching people [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► really hard to feel like they gotta work [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► Hitler on the chin he has he has nothing [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► else to do [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► I mean that's the other thing is this is [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► what he does right and that's that's [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► actually i think one of the point things [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► about his early scene with Robert [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► Redford is you know the the questions [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► what else would you do [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► I mean this is all you're not only are [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► you a soldier through and through but [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► you're out of time you you know if you [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► quit [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► there's nothing this is this is you this [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► is your entire identity or or is it i [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► mean that's the question but so course [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► you learn [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► it's all the cool stuff you can because [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► that's what else he's got that it's that [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► and watching movies is barbershop [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► quartet is all dead [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► yeah mentioning that that's that's the [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► same it's in the trailer where he jumps [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► out of the jumps out of the airplane arm [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► i want to talk about the action scenes [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► in this movie because i think it's [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► really interesting we you know we've [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► done comfortable we did our man of steel [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► episode we did you know we did it was [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► one of the quibbles about iron man 3 I [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► feel like I'm getting I'm gonna don't [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► speak for everybody but I i feel like [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► i'm getting a little exhausted with the [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► kind of scenes of gigantic urban [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► disaster even in the Avengers which I [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► candle did fairly well it's still a [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► giant things blowing up buildings and [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► one of the things I liked about that the [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► action in winter soldier is it felt more [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► personal and more constrained like [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► hydrophobic there's a boat there is a [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► buzz literally a scene in an elevator [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► that there's a boat raid there's an [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► elevator fight there's a car chase and [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► there and even in the last the last [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► scene that's got that super crazy like [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► three helicarriers and crashing into [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► buildings in reality it's a showdown [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► between two men in an enclosed space its [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► that's and that's the action so I like I [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► thought they did a really great job with [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► that especially after some of the [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► previous movies it's like you know even [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► I you know I like iron man but it's like [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► I feel like every action shot and I [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► remain is like CGI are in man shooting [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► missiles at cgi you know other robots [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► right right and you need to be watching [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► it at like a hundred and fifty frames a [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► second but like it it it's a lot more [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► kinetic and a lot more exciting watching [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► Captain America punch somebody or [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► struggle with somebody I mean there were [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► multiple knives get home people kicking [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► each other it's different than just like [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► people like zapping each other and [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► shooting it [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► I like it's very physical it's very nice [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► role even that just the first scene [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► where he's running across the boat and [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► he's just knocking people down yet felt [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► me up a little video game ask but even [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► that was still kind of exciting in a way [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► where it's like I'm sure there's tons of [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► CGI in all the shots but they're not [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► 100-percent cgi like many of the shots [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► at ironman you get the sense with a bow [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► trade that it's a he's almost like [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► challenging himself like how many people [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► can i take out before the parachute guys [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► get down here but i like the stuff with [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► the shield every time somebody get hit [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► with that she'll by actually having a [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► little bit oh wow that looks like it [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► hurts [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► I was way more violent than I thought it [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► was gonna be like he was tearing through [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► people on that boat and they were [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► breaking like it was it was pretty crazy [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► you thought you thought I was gonna hug [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► him no but I mean you know what I mean [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► like to get like like you said with the [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► death drunk they don't just pop it on [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► the head and fall down [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► yeah exactly that she looks like the [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► dental yeah Drake invention stuff it's [TS]

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00:18:55 ◼   ► the one thing I was gonna know is you [TS]

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00:18:58 ◼   ► in a second but that was all very [TS]

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00:19:03 ◼   ► helicopter with no parachute being the [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► person of mass destruction taking out [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► the entire terrorist camp but i think [TS]

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00:21:24 ◼   ► talk about the car chase i thought was [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► great car chase did this is you know I I [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► thought for a second [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► this movie is called captain america and [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► this huge car chase that's Nick Fury [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► it's like this suddenly the Nick Fury [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► movie comes in but it's i really enjoyed [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► this to that was a mainstream you know [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► big-budget superhero movie that manages [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► to make of exciting car chase through [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► the streets of Cleveland posing as [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► washington DC i think uh but I thought [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► that was great too and again not not [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► giant superhuman maybe cgi creatures [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► throwing huge objects but instead [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► something where I understand the physics [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► I kind of understood the geography and [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► then it also had the sense of humor [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► where Nick Furies cars talking to him [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► and telling him what's broken but the [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► air conditioning works and that was nice [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► because Nick Fury hasn't I mean he's [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► obviously has a lot of presence but he [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► doesn't have got to do a lot in all the [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► movies where he's been it right i mean [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► he he's freaking shows that places and [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► he you know sometimes you give stirring [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► speeches you know pep talks and whatnot [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► right yeah I gotta work yeah she knows [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► you know appears that the entire at the [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► end of the Avengers like he's not [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► running around shooting guys as this new [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► york swelling down [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► yeah it in the Avengers he pointed out [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► doors like check it out i got a rocket [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► launcher guys I'm gonna shoot this [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► rocket launcher and that's all I'm going [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► that's all i do now i got i got a [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► PowerPoint deck i gotta work on I gotta [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► get on the phone with these shadowy [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► figures and talking about new lot of [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► paperwork I can see it coming so here [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► he's doing yeah he's doing his thing and [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► and and the tension builds and and then [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► unfortunately the trailer gives a way [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► that is going to run a [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► into the winter soldier but even then I [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► know why didn't they just start with [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► that when you just shoot the thing that [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► catches the bottom of the carb load up [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► see you later there's a few blocks away [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► he just wasn't ready yet they had to be [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► a car chase Danner now sorry I don't [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► know why do I have this good it was good [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► car chase there's a there's am a flash [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► drive that is doesn't work like any [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► flash drive ever seen the MacGuffin [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► flash drive [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► yeah yeah that wasn't my favorite thing [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► it runs on shield OS chase and you [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► wouldn't understand you're right it's [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► true [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► they've got extra advanced technology [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► they're open source and so let's see [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► what other one other big action set [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► pieces are there's the bunker in in New [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► Jersey that I thought was pretty cool [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► the weather it's his old base and we get [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► the flashback to the first movie and [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► then go inside the bunker and i like [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► that not only was there a picture of [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► Peggy but there was a picture of Tommy [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► Lee Jones who had never started and oh [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► yes Howard Stark and they talk about a [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► young Howard Stark confusingly that was [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► no accident [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► uh and then they go downstairs and they [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► meet its like the hatch from lost theirs [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► in their seventies computers moving [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► around and Arnim Zola has digitized [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► himself [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► unfortunately digitized himself in the [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► seven days after to AP a great great [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► move [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► I'm not against that i'm not convinced [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► that he is gone [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► oh no I never come back yeah digital [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► they backed him up [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► yes on the cloud i would imagine that [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► that was just like the version that they [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► left down there and then he's also [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► floating around last year mi the am I [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► the only one on that still watching [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► agents of shield I know now I know what [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► I know I'm water [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► nevertheless for watching is no I'm all [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► I'm not like that it's got a better i'm [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► convinced Arnim Zola's the real [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► clairvoyant [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► yeah that would make a lot more setup [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► would make a lot more energy like that [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► payoff that will totally work if we get [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► that sometime in the next six episodes [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► probably get Tony Jones to do that Toby [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► Jones who's John so long they yeah it [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► made someone's guess that's me like on [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► the way back from the movie and I was [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► like it yeah yeah that makes a lot of [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► sense it does it does kind of take tick [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► all the boxes on that one and this movie [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► makes me even happier that the guy point [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► Arnim Zola also played karl rove so [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► happens the dream [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► Lauren doctor who I'm so god yes he is [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► so I let's talk about access since i'm [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► taking off the the the action scenes big [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► the big action scene at the end you know [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► there is a large-scale aspect to it like [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► iron man 3 right where it suddenly Oh [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► lots of people are doing lots of things [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► at once and their big vehicles moving [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► and lots of stuff is happening and yet I [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► felt like it really [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► they did a great job of having it makes [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► sense that they're sort of because [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► they've got lost I got the three [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► MacGuffins right so they got the three [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► chips that have to go into the three [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► things so they've got three different [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► missions for that and so it there's some [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► sort of clarity we see what you know we [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► see what the Falcon is doing and there's [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► some really nice like if you've got a [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► falcon backpack [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► you're way more maneuverable than a than [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► a fighter jet and then in the end it's a [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► it's a showdown between captain america [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► the winter soldier and it's meaningful [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► and yes there are explosions happening [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► all around but that showdown is really [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► small and meaningful in a good fight [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► scene 2 and and i really i really like [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► that seemed to that even though we got [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► the sense that this was a big stage the [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► most important stuff and actually the [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► stuff that's got the emotional resonance [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► is happening in a small enclosed space [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► where we can understand it [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► yeah two deaths cartridge yeah good [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► evening ladies can ya got a man's guy [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► wins he got it love it love it but let [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► me out an ad in education [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► let me ask a question how come in like [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► the 60 years that they've been like [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► freezing and unfreezing with your [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► soldier like nobody get my haircut [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► I'm just saying it seems like it gets in [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► his eyes he likes its style it makes up [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► it makes people scared of him he doesn't [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► even know how long is areas he wakes up [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► every time he's all groggy and [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► everything the Hydra guys do it for them [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► they will they really liked it there in [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► in in Hydra or Russia or where wherever [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► he yeah they love that stuff [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► I think it's great i think makes them [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► super spooky because I had a moment work [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► with during the unmasking I did hear [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► someone behind me gasps could not tell [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► if they were being a rock and I heard a [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► lot of people gasping okay but is what I [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► was in I was in this like super early [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► fan screening that like they did in a [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► few different cities like three weeks [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► ago and even among the superfans [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► you know in an audience with people [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► dressed up which doesn't generally [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► happen for the promo screenings there is [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► there's a surprising number of gasps but [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► then there is also that there was also a [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► lie i heard an audible reaction that [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► wasn't surprised but it was it was the [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► like they felt it hit them in the middle [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► of the chest the way that hit Steve the [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► moment he recognized it was and that [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► like that's what really paid off the [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► most for me was they could have they [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► didn't have to play it up as a secret [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► for as long as they did I think that the [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► emotional beat worked way better than [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► trying to play it as a big surprise and [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► it would be a surprise to some people [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► but ensure that's a lot less important [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► than it actually hitting hitting Steve [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► between the it's interesting because i [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► think the what I found fascinating [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► especially about the Marvel movies is [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► they've really for the most part tossed [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► out the device of the secret identity [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► you know starting with iron man the end [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► of the movie is I am ironman like they [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► don't really take the time like think [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► about the Avengers there's almost nobody [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► in the Avengers whose identity is a [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► secret anyway everybody knows who Steve [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► Rogers Sam you know Sam knows who he is [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► immediately right there is everybody [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► seeing them on TV at this point you know [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► defending Manhattan and all of that and [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► I kind of like that we haven't played [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► with it so it's interesting to get a [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► situation in which a plot [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► I mean need whether it be a plot point [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► an emotional point is actively like who [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► is this person [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► it sort of turns the idea on its head a [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► little bit from what we've seen so far [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► in the Marvel continuity that said I was [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► really just impress anybody could [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► recognize him with a really long hair [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► yeah yeah I i was noticing the [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► flashbacks mean like yeah you gotta [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► really pay off you got it you got it yet [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► get can't we talk to the same thing we [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► talked about earlier with the word [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► choices were saying like you gotta bring [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► up this relationship a little more and [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► solidified a little more for it to mean [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► something to the audience as opposed to [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► to Steve I felt like they had to put in [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► those earlier scenes or else all the [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► people who haven't seen captain america [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► in like three years since it came out [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► would be alright who's that who's this [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► and what's going on please note that guy [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► with which white guy with brown here was [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► he was either one of the torch or lifted [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► will shoot version of solar that fucking [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► but the winter soldier is dum-dum Dugan [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► that's right i'm shocked [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► Neil MacDonald needs work he's gonna [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► tell you how Great America is that they [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► didn't have when we work all through the [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► summer time and make a great Cadillacs [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► that's right I we should talk we [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► mentioned briefly the elevator scene i [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► thought the elevator scene was great and [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► in the trailer you see it's aftermath [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► but you don't see the actual thing and [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► and and also early on the movie is the [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► scene where they're riding down in the [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► elevator and I'm thinking to myself man [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► that's a really nice elevator and I [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► think and I think to myself why is this [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► elevator here and I think well they're [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► showing us go into the ground to the [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► sub-basement to see the that's why it's [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► in there and then he gets in the [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► elevator for that fight scene where the [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► guys keep which is a really nice piece [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► of work because the rain choreography [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► with them keep getting on [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► yeah and he's sort of putting it all [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► together yeah that you know it's really [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► really good at it even there Steve [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► Rogers right [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► he doesn't just start fighting them he [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► acknowledges what they're going to do [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► and give them an opportunity to get off [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► her and then they find it is a threat i [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► thought was a really well-done scene and [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► I like the elevator set up to its like [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► if you're gonna build you have a bunch [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► of good scenes in an elevator built a [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► really awesome giant elevator with a [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► great class background and they did that [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► like it was a real fight to like he [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► wasn't even just wiped the floor with [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► yeah well I'm getting hacked the pack so [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► many people has 10 against one or [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► whatever and they did have to tie one of [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► his hands behind his back yeah yeah but [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► it was good like it [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► I you know when I saw the setup I [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► thought it was just that would be it [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► right see what we saw in the thing yeah [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► you you know you just beat the crap out [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► of them but it actually it worked too [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► well again really visible and like super [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► tight cover a few I'd say that's the [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► best fight scene in the movie [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► I mean I like some of the stuff with [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► with Captain America and Bucky the like [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► that that one fight that Tony lu2 with [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► the knives work he keeps pulling knives [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► and everywhere I felt like that mean [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► that's a really good fight but it's like [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► I felt this one night something [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► interesting about the choreography and [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► the constraint i mean reminded be I mean [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► for the for those of using the original [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► old boy the scene in the hallway like it [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► had sort of a similar feel in terms of [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► like let's play with the you know the [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► this space like let's explain experience [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► but this space is gonna be like [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► happens if you have a fight in a [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► physical location rather than just like [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► sprawling all over the place [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► my sis just in the chat room that would [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► be really funny if like a somebody in [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► the elevator when Steve Rogers says [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► anybody want to get out is like I look I [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► just need to get done before the part [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► that really be out of place when a guy [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► with like the tray of baked goods or [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► something yeah I just I i got i mean the [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► pizza delivery guy is your friend Marty [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► on is what the guy in iron man 3 these [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► guys are so weird i hate working here [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► you recognize that guy i love that kind [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► of Daniel you're right that this is I [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► think you make a really good point that [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► the you know all the superheroes are [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► like iron man's got his armor any flies [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► he's got stuff the chutes and all that [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► and everybody's got their thing and [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► Captain America you know he fights good [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► he's a good fight guy and so that's what [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► it should be is is we should see him [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► being a good fighting guy in the [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► elevator [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► you know you and really smart too i [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► think the other one likes it but he's [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► there's no point being or writer using [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► energy blasts he's a good soldier he's [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► just yeah and i think that the part of [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► like the Avengers part which really [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► drills at home for me is the part where [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► you know when the team finally gets [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► together and and Tony Stark is saying [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► alright you know captain america and you [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► tell us what to do because you're the [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► only person here who's really trained in [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► any sort of like tactic right or [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► soldiering right everybody else is like [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► you've got some assassins and stuff like [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► that but you don't have really anybody [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► else who's used to working with a team [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► right which is the one thing that [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► Captain America has over all of them [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► which is that he worked with 18 [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► yeah well it's like what I'm saying the [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► other day leadership is kind of [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► superpower [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► yeah he can compel people to action [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► that's good I like that it's true and [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► then that's it that's always the [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► challenge with him is that he is the [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► symbol and he's a leader and you know [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► honestly that was that always made [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► shield kind of a weird fit right i mean [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► the first time he wakes up in the [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► present day he saw he's the ra she'll [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► Jason and its general mine its natural [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► he's inspired by him that synergy Jason [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► but he wakes up they're faking the past [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► right and so I I felt like there's [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► always this tension between him and [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► shield and Nick Fury because he you know [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► he's got his he's got his standards and [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► he's already he's a leader but he's not [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► the leader of this group and and that [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► was the natural tension that was there [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► so having can be kind of rebel and [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► having to run away from shield I worked [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► really well right because then he's in [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► charge [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► yeah and that final scene and fury [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► literally just tell him like looks like [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► you're calling the shots now cat [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► yeah we're giving me one looks like yeah [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► yeah exactly right i like that nobody [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► else like that was one of the [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► interesting follow things for agents of [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► shield for me was that even though you [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► know fury acknowledges like all right we [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► got it like yeah we gotta get rid of [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► everything right [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► nobody tells that to anybody she hoped [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► but they're also like going like alright [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► we can kind of salvage this whole Hydra [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► situation right little spin on it and [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► maybe we can just yet other than Marino [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► and Maria Hill clearly had her resume [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► ready to go right she's like I'm gonna [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► apply to that job at Stark Industries [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► now it in the movie Pepper Potts is way [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► better adjusted than any of these idiots [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► am i imagining things or what was there [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► not look at a time lapse after the fall [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► of hydrate the Triskelion in the movie [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► where I think I think the series is [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► catching up to where we end up at the [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► end of the yeah I think you're right i [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► mean you're sort of a dissolve like he [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► was picking up the pieces [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► a few months later I am black widow [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► Manning and i am here to wikileak [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► congress right that's right because it's [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► cuz she says I'm here to not tell you [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► anything so suck at Congress something I [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► really appreciate about that mechanic is [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► that I did not [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► throughout this movie like question [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► where are the other adventures why is [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► you know why isn't Captain America like [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► callin for help because because he is [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► cut off right he's cut off from shield [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► he doesn't trust where is like basically [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► like the second half of iron man 3 on my [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► flight isn't you know like he knows [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► these guys who are really good at stuff [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► maybe he should like call back up the [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► phone and call them and it's like you [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► know something I'm willing to believe [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► that captain america a feels he cannot [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► trust anyone and be probably doesn't [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► have an address book right you know he [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► doesn't have a smartphone oh yeah and an [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► iron is no pain lost it [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► yeah that last start start thinks he can [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► just handle it himself but like you know [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► like when he doesn't have his suit and [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► he's like walking through the snow it's [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► like you know what that's when you call [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► for you call for exact [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► right now I thought this also what [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► happened so fast right it's like yeah [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► this is all happening fast he's in [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► Washington it's all cut off he doesn't [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► know who to trust and and it just [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► happens too fast for them I i I've [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► talked to some people who have seen her [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► like just having the Avengers hanging [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► over them it's always an issue like I [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► don't know I never I never felt that [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► like I didn't iron man 3 that he he [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► really needed to call Tony Stark for [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► help and I get Tony's Tony Stark's had a [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► jerk he's not gonna you know you don't [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► even call for help you get it was like [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► we say I was your altar is like Captain [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► America is on the run from the only [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► thing that he knows in the world where [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► is his shield and he's he's now [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► completely cut off he's cut off from [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► time he's cut off from the one job he's [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► ever had and you know he doesn't have [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► access to the Avengers any more of the [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► other Avengers that he would contact I [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► mean Stark is the one who right at the [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► beginning Furies like yes stark improved [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► all of our engines and guns and now they [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► are super Kelly and they can kill a [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► million fellows in 12 seconds [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► I wouldn't call Bruce Banner either like [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► that just the fellow might be more [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► interesting are each monster in dallas [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► solve a lot more panel long distance [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► charges to Asgard are just you know [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► through the roof [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► you know on a on a veteran salary that's [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► you know [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► yeah i did find it was a little odd [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► though that for example shield wouldn't [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► call in iron Patriot because that's just [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► a cgi insert or you know Hawkeye my [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► ten-year-old godson salt with me and his [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► first question was where's Hawkeye [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► because he'd been well you use also who [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► knows if he was Hydra so here's here's [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► what I what I was thinking about both of [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► those is that if they had wanted to do [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► what they should have done is had like [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► iron patriot is off somewhere he's they [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► have conspired to make him off the [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► off-the-grid somewhere for Hawk I feel [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► Michael and I were talking about this [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► because he was complaining about the [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► Avengers not being in it and and I said [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► I imagine Hawkeye like getting off a [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► boat on a tropical island for his first [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► real vacation in a long time and as he [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► steps off the boat onto the shore [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► there's a thing that says you need to [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► get back something's happening is like [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► oh man [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► and that's it because it's gonna take [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► him another 12 hours sir 15 hours to get [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► back [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► see I imagine more mundane he's like in [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► his apartment and he's like building an [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► ikea couch [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► it's like stuck in boys Hawkeye could be [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► easy but all he busy dealing with those [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► little ok and then beyond this but ok [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► that's it he's trying to look at this [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► time you are it's very complicated [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► deleting shawarma you just can't [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► the place yeah I cannot see Jeremy [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► Renner as not the martin be calm [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► expression haha its kind of but I want [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► that movie so bad time for a quick break [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► to tell you about ourselves visit the [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► incomparable dot-com to get much more we [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► have a couple other podcasts there are [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► more on the way our dnd podcast is total [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► party kill we've got our new TV podcast [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► with rapid reactions to things that are [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► on TV here's what you're missing is [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► soaked immediately gifted he's so [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► intelligent that you know you can't [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► contain his mind like a little box where [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► he's you know he came up [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► refill Riley right exactly and he came [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► up with with this character at a time [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► when that was still a big thing he made [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► it something far bigger and better than [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► I ever thought it would was going to be [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► I beyond is still getting tortured in [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► his tortured castle right right at the [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► dreadfort which we saw yeah it's in the [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► opening credits with a little flayed man [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► and everything that we didn't actually [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► go there I'm so happy to see that the [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► opening credits because i love the name [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► the dreadfort [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► yeah but it's also a lot of serious [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► marketing for those guys they're like a [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► we play people did you know that and a [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► dragon stone is in the opening credits [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► so we could rising status and his novels [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► under is closing the door a standard [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► action are minor action out some [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► interaction unless you want to like Oh [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► somehow market item wouldn't know how [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► but I'm going alright so i'm gonna i'm [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► interested amazingly powerful warlocks [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► lot or not using and honor the love the [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► word lock is literally your job name you [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► are a war block i make war on where I [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► don't know or you don't love that she's [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► not a lock [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► I so visit the incomparable dot-com to [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► learn more or go to iTunes and search [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► for incomparable master feed for a [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► master podcast feed with all of our [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► shows in it so a list of characters who [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► are in this movie because obviously even [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► though its captain america and we have [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► the winter soldier we have some other [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► characters we mentioned Black Widow so [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► there's your there's your Avengers time [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► right now and i thought i thought that [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► was a really great use of the character [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► that she is really the [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► the number two character in this movie [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► and i like how she's got a really i like [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► that relationship she's got captain [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► america where it's not a you know [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► there's sexual tension and you know [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► what's going to happen it's like she is [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► a pro he's a pro their co-workers and [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► she's kinda got you know she's looking [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► out for him and I trying to fix him up [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► with people yeah yeah yeah but I thought [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► she was coming I thought that was just a [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► good elaboration on on Scarlett [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► Johansson's character that from the [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► Avengers and and from yeah well let's [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► not talk about her and iron man two [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► because that wasn't so good but I I [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► liked I liked her I felt this movie made [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► her even more well-rounded I thought [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► that was a good a good use of black [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► widow [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► yeah i agree i think this is one of the [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► it's nice to have her not be there just [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► to be a loving trust right all right and [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► they definitely gave her own stuff more [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► cameo right right right i mean yeah i [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► agree with you that they have more they [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► have more of a co-worker sibling type [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► relationship than anything else here and [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► it works because it's you know [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► especially when we get to the point [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► where he needs somebody he can trust you [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► know and even that even then I like [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► spent like you know part of the movie [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► wondering like oh man they're not just [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► gonna have her flip on him at the end [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► right like that was originally said [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► that's her client she's an LG I mean [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► she's an assassin [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► yeah but she's got a heart of gold and [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► turns out the only major he should you [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► definitely i'll lead superhero character [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► Marvel has at the moment [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► yeah yes I am glad that I'm glad they [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► put her to use that I think that balance [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► balance the movie out nicely to have her [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► working with Captain America let's talk [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► about the Falcon I thought the Falcon [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► was great [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► yeah I really like him Anthony Mackie is [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► fantastic actor [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► yeah and we we see that relationship [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► from the beginning I liked how they I [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► like how they visualize the Falcon with [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► his backpack with the with a jet wings [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► and stuff like the way he moved didn't [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► feel like super Shaky's shaky cgi it [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► felt like you know we got a backpack [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► with the jets on it i guess i would like [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► to see more interactively I felt like [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► they were setting up for him to be more [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► of a person and then we didn't really [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► get as much of a payoff and it's hard [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► because they're kinda trying to pair [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► captain america with black widow is kind [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► of you know buddy coworker and then [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► Falcons there and so it's a little [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► crowded a lot of it they get a lot of it [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► up front [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► and so right because they're the better [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► the veterans and this weekend a lot up [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► with you know he's he's been on your [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► left-right for really can be seen at the [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► very beginning where he's passing them [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► over and over again while they're [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► running around the reflecting pool and [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► then he visits him at the VA and that so [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► I felt like they did that ground work [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► early so when the time comes I found [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► that a little tricky double to one thing [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► I kind of struggled a little bit is like [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► I mean theoretically has this work at [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► the VA that seems important but like [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► Captain America's like I need your help [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► to take down the government now he's [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► like i'm free i don't have a job I don't [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► know the family I don't have I don't [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► even have a befitting your valuable [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► everybody how's everybody knows he knows [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► and shield and then there's this guy who [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► you know I just get the sense that he [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► doesn't have that many friends and this [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► guy he trusts because they're soldiers [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► and they kind of bonded they're jogging [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► buddies he went he's looking out to him [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► and he has he literally has nowhere else [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► to turn [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► plus he's gonna be the Falcon Captain [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► America calls you to serve you serve [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► I just you might need to make a call [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► first right no I was explained to my [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► wife afterward how awesome it is [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► she's like so the Falcon did they work [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► together in the comics I'm like oh my [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► god in the seventies they like me they [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► like made the comic captain america and [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► the Falcon it was the and it was gonna [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► was also Marvel his costume was a little [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► different yeah my magic tiara it was but [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► the idea that they are they also did [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► that was when Marvel was realizing that [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► the other superheroes were white and [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► they're like you know we need to do [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► something about this and so to take that [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► classic pairing and and put it in the [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► movie and I I thought it was really fun [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► i thought i thought he worked and of [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► course at the end like blow up his [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► backpack [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► he's like well I'm grounded sorry origin [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► they gave him the Falcon i think was a [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► great shorthand almost as good as you [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► just casting downey junior Ironman the [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► origin that gave to the Falcon just let [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► you put them right into all the action [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► yeah well I wish it was great i noticed [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► too i wasn't thinking about it but when [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► we may be said you know my my buddy got [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► shot down all that I was like you know [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► they're not really mentioning the plane [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► they're just implying flight and that [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► was a really great I like that a lot [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► where it's like it never sent a plane at [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► the end and that it's you know he is [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► this is what he did in the military so [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► it's not only let him bring it home and [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► so his origin story will know right they [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► had steel and they they didn't let him [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► forget [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► but that was his origin story is I was a [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► soldier they taught me how to fly this [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► crazy contraption and I've semifluid web [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► and it also explains why you know as [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► good as it would be to have just like [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► any other soldier on your side you know [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► in order to keep up with Captain America [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► you do need a certain like you need to [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► be like an elite soldier right i did [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► like the fight between the Falcon and [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► winter soldier is usually just gets his [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► ass kicked like brutally like hold his [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► own a little bit but it's it's [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► over-the-top not like them taken out [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► like when the winter soldier just steals [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► his steering wheel [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► yeah that didn't know about it up right [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► so there's that excuse me like a car [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► chase [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► that's really good and then there's the [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► that kind of overpass urban combat kind [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► of kinda like the winter soldier has a [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► bunch of guys that basically just [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► provide covering fire and then hand [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► they're going to the winter soldier is [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► like that those guys Tony goes with like [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► the background singers of weaponry [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► yeah okay they're like there to provide [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► you know a little a little flair and [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► then showcase the main star right like [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► where the winter soldier doesn't carry [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► his own guns he carries his own knives [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► but guns that's you know he's got it [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► he's got people for their yeah takes [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► them where we're here we know where you [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► can get them that's all he's like that [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► he's superstitious like that [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► what about Nick Fury how well you will [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► have more to say about your eyes and [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► hearing wasn't actually dead [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► I kept waiting for the little tell that [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► was gonna make me realize he wasn't [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► actually dead and when it did when I [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► didn't get one I was like wow maybe you [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► know Sam Jackson has been a lot of [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► movies maybe this is out there no [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► comment workout can't kill anybody [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► yeah that's not maybe I it was going to [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► be looking lmd in a catch apartment [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► yeah I great with the life model decoy [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► thing as well i wasn't sure i think you [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► should consider surgery to obscure [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► especially at this point with what [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► they've done with Coulson it's like no [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► no one has ever done know every year [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► no I like that there was a there was a a [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► hint between again agents of shield and [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► the movie with the thing that Samuel [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► Jackson uses like his way out of the car [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► i think that what they call it muscle [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► they call the mouse hole in the changes [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► you know episode and with that and fury [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► really nice scene where were cap find [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► them in the apartment he's like in the [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► shadows and he's hiding and [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► he gets shot and all that but that's [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► nice i like that because that is that is [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► your seven-day spy movie scene 2 [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► right right just like I brought you this [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► information and you know don't trust [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► don't trust anybody that he died right [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► it's like I journey I did not see that [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► coming out there this shit was kind of [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► brutal because it's like right in the [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► middle of a sentence on what [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► yeah it's also when you can catch [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► apartment you feel probably safe but [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► guess not that record players not gonna [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► protected like the thing with the whole [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► like you know that everything's bugged [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► and then Bryan Pierce tries to play that [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► like off by pointing out that you know [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► was furious that was different yeah I [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► said was true but you know again I got [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► it in a comment on the robert redford [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► casting because he's one of the few [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► people who know you can't believe would [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► be able to give make sure your didn't L [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► tell Sam Jackson want to do an interview [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► he would do it you know they have a good [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► dynamic who I like the fact i like that [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► whole story about Bogota about you know [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► fury going in [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► despite like against orders and that's [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► how he gets promoted to director [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► basically I mean it's interesting [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► because it has that whole double sided [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► thing where it's like a proved his worth [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► in the same time it's like kind of using [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► him as a puppet you know the casting [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► Redford I mean just the first off he [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► bring Robert toss me brings the gravitas [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► he's great shorthand I mean because [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► everybody ready you know recognizes him [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► and he did a great job he he did not i [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► was actually a little afraid that it was [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► gonna be one of those things it's likely [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► well sleep well it's kind of [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► embarrassing Robert Redford was no [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► marvel comics movie late in his career [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► and we don't really speak events like [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► you know he's really great [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► I don't even really bad he dies at the [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► end because I thought he was really [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► great he makes he makes the shooting [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► that housekeeper totally brutal [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► yes oh yeah like that about that likely [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► run apartment gray area and then right [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► up till that point you're like nope he's [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► a bad guy like it that you had to do it [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► because he's too sympathetic when it [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► when the housekeeper had those like [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► off-camera lines of like she's gonna get [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► can I was like the winter soldier is [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► gonna kill killer and then Robert [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► Redford's gonna be angry that's like now [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► we have to like you know cover up this [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► and it's like not revered that whatever [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► cologne housekeeper [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► lucky you there's that knife's edge [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► moment where he walks in and sees the [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► winter soldier and [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► you're sitting there would be like the [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► that brief moment well alright is the [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► guy there to kill him or is he a bad guy [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► yeah and for me I was like as can't [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► either because I didn't want him to be a [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► bad guy you know I wanted this product [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► and never trust a three-piece suit never [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► ironically there's nobody to clean up [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► after the dead body of the plane left he [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► tires a new clean it's their first time [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► guys had carry all the way to children's [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► guns just take care of that kind of mop [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► it up and it's fine that mandroids for [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► that we got agent 13 got a little bit of [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► her she's great [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► Sharon Carter yeah they have her have [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► her across that so so in the comics at [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► least and and that's the implication [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► she's the niece of Peggy Carter right [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► and and speaking of having listening [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► devices in the in the apartment they [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► also planted a SHIELD agent across the [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► hall as the girl next to her so I think [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► we'll be seeing her again and emily [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► vancamp who is I think currently on [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► revenge [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► yeah but it doesn't add ice machine was [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► on that everybody was great on that show [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► I still always think of her as Amy [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► Abbott but yeah she's great in this too [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► and she just have that girl nextdoor [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► quality and then I really like it when [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► she's in the day that moment with its [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► the scene of cameos word and booty from [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► community and who else is in there god [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► there's there's a bunch of the people [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► who you recognize who you you kind of [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► get the feeling like I'm being a Marvel [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► movie make it's like yeah we got one day [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► we're gonna shoot this scene in the [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► control room and you can all be in it [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► but but she's in there and that's great [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► because it's the the people that shield [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► standing up and saying you know we're [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► going to fight back against hide rod and [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► she has a little heroism that's the most [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► confusing things like that is everyone's [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► pointing guns at each other like who's [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► on whose side you don't know nobody a [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► little unclear how did the Hydra people [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► know who else is hydroxy they had Sandra [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► handshakes yeah come on Tony will get [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► with did that is everyone shake hands [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► every day I get my hamburger handshakes [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► but you know hydrilla peloponnese for [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► everybody they all have the lowell [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► nobody looked at the lapel pin actually [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► what you do is you just shout hail Hydra [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► know like that one that was a good i [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► like the scene agents of shield was like [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► I know some of your Hydra so like shoot [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► the other night and it will turn so you [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► get yeah so just like do this now and [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► like hopefully you know i mean at least [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► they'll be one high [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► the guy left even if Hydra guys to each [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► other right it's like that works but it [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► seemed like it seemed like everyone in [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► that control room knew who was on the [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► other team somehow I i have to have to [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► buy have to brag my college roommate I [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► the the guy that is there you know [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► quote-unquote bringing Coulson is a [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► prisoner the guys like other bringing [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► Coulson right here that those my college [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► roommate and he gets decked by Bill [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► Paxton and that is officially the [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► coolest thing that friends got to do in [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► a Marvel movie or TV show I'm gonna [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► argue that this is the best Stanley [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► cameo ever [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► yeah yes that was I've far [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► well deployed which is which is that [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► time I'm so gonna get fired because [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► Captain America steals his old outfit I [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► thought I like you I like the symbolism [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► of stealing the outfit that's a yes [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► it also if you look in the first scene [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► in the Smithsonian joss whedon is coming [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► down the escalator yeah so I saw yeah I [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► when I saw that I weren't happening [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► architecture because he's cut its kind [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► of fuzzy you can't quite tell but I was [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► pretty sure it was totally Joss Whedon's [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► got to be and it was not an object from [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► community works at shield although it [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► wasn't dumb person i did like the [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► callback on Samuel Jackson's tombstone a [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► lot [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► oh yeah you're 25 seconds yeah right [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► from pulp fiction but I I'm glad it was [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► that and not a quote from like the [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► prequels happy I I i really liked that [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► that one of the 2i guess attending [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► scientists to the winter soldier was at [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► Brubaker the creator of the character [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► and the writer of the whole winter [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► stories winter soldier storyline from [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► the comics i think one of the other ones [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► was the screenwriter for the movie too [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► yeah we have two horned everybody in [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► there like all right everybody get a [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► roll today everybody working here is a [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► light code [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► yeah it will marvel they do that but [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► just rozinsky who I think it's some [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► polish on the door screenplay and wrote [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► several issues of Thor is the farmer who [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► finds the hammer in right right and Thor [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► so you know they they like to drop in [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► there they're writers and other other [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► people it was nice the Brubaker got in [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► there because i mean this is this is the [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► fastest turnaround from a bit of [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► intellectual property made by Marvel [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► comic to being on the screen because [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► winter soldier that story was what five [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► years ago maybe once asked it yeah it [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► like the turnaround on it was super [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► super fast and i was at San Diego the [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► year that [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► announced this and I was standing in [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► hall h and I was tweeting it at Brubaker [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► and he was like this is news to me but [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► this is awesome that like he had no idea [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► whatsoever and it like it took him [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► completely back [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► that's great that's awesome speaking of [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► other characters i thought it was nice [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► that Maria Hill got some stuff to do [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► yeah cobie smulders good for her and [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► she'll be she's unemployed now yeah i [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► would actually be great if they if they [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► if they had her at least recur on agents [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► of shield next season now that she's [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► sprung from how i met your mother i just [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► really like that scene in the van when [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► like you know when they've got them all [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► walked out the end she shoots the other [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► or stuns the other guys and you know in [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► the back of the truck [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► it was nice to have her like usually [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► also the scene i thought that was the [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► best with her was when she's in the [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► control room she started running [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► everything she sees the two guys coming [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► in she's sort of rolls back in her chair [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► is like bam bam [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► all right back to work yeah she's [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► totally being a badass and she knows [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► what to do she's I mean it that's why [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► should hurry relies on her and it was [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► nice to see her do that i mean this [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► comes back to this being a shield movie [TS]