Roderick on the Line

Ep. 151: "Mrs. Horning's Pepsi"


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  hello hi John where the man jon john jon [TS]

  john jon john x 102 down-and-out now [TS]

  John is in front [TS]

  let's put on a groundout hear that music [TS]

  video [TS]

  do I and they're playing it live in [TS]

  adultery had had a guitar [TS]

  mmm that was wet during Pete Townsend's [TS]

  black telecaster phase and scheckter [TS]

  American using his chapters yeah yeah [TS]

  yeah isn't it was also wondering if I [TS]

  could borrow a phrase it's also kind of [TS]

  when he was transitioning with his hair [TS]

  Oh ever he was he was at that he was at [TS]

  that stage that last stage was like yeah [TS]

  I can pull the Sun and his hair looked [TS]

  like it was made by an Internet Boeing [TS]

  ember was slightly be winging it [TS]

  yeah yeah that's right he did he had he [TS]

  had some had some wings to meet did it [TS]

  was almost like it was almost like Pauly [TS]

  from The Sopranos yes [TS]

  yeah like it kind of almost a little [TS]

  earmuff think a little higher up [TS]

  uh-huh a little flock of seagulls yeah [TS]

  yeah well you know that was their new [TS]

  wave record right that was the that was [TS]

  the new wave their new wave moment I had [TS]

  a there's a different time it's nobody [TS]

  cares i had a poster in my bedroom for [TS]

  three or four years that I got probably [TS]

  a liquor store or right honey cake sure [TS]

  said Schlitz rocks America with the WHO [TS]

  and then noticed there was a graphic of [TS]

  them play music do you remember when of [TS]

  those kids died at the who concert I was [TS]

  yes that was I think i was living in [TS]

  Cincinnati then yeah and that was like [TS]

  such a minus my cousins were there they [TS]

  were at the show you know at a cousin's [TS]

  five years older cousin 10 years older [TS]

  and they were at the show and they yeah [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  I was it was it was like a it was like [TS]

  it rocked the country [TS]

  yeah it did changed it changed the it [TS]

  changed the whole deal in a way yeah I [TS]

  have to tell you to this day I've [TS]

  explained to my daughter I was like you [TS]

  know arm you know how you have you ever [TS]

  noticed how pretty much every door on a [TS]

  public building opens out like can you [TS]

  guess why that is and she doesn't cast [TS]

  she's seven but no seriously every time [TS]

  it's so weird I mean this to sound [TS]

  really crazy but I notice when a door on [TS]

  a public building does not open out [TS]

  mmm doesn't meet for younger listeners [TS]

  welcome [TS]

  uh-huh hello I don't know the exact [TS]

  story i think was it may be rolling [TS]

  stone years later had a big piece about [TS]

  this but basically there was a k-8 [TS]

  Wisconsin who concert in Cincinnati 1979 [TS]

  it was face dancers to her and got a [TS]

  long story short they're gonna rush to [TS]

  the stage and then there was this idea [TS]

  that if you got in there is a store over [TS]

  here I think we're if you got through [TS]

  that door you could get to the stage [TS]

  faster was that was that what happened [TS]

  so some something happened but all you [TS]

  need to know is that there was a massive [TS]

  rush of people all heading toward the [TS]

  same door at the same time a door that [TS]

  guess what maybe the door to get out of [TS]

  the of the you know riot or whatever but [TS]

  the point is it open in and like when I [TS]

  remember first hearing that this is so [TS]

  depressing [TS]

  remember first hearing that and like it [TS]

  really sunk in what it meant to have a [TS]

  door open in when several hundred people [TS]

  are trying to get through that door at [TS]

  the same time it's a bad scene people [TS]

  were trampled people were crushed [TS]

  crushed and yeah yeah and it was it was [TS]

  really bad news now in contrast almost [TS]

  well I think every front door of a house [TS]

  does open in because inches because [TS]

  hinges in a residential dorset up you [TS]

  wouldn't have exposed hinges the changes [TS]

  on the outside right [TS]

  I always thought growing up in Alaska [TS]

  that the doors open in case there was a [TS]

  really big snowfall and you wouldn't be [TS]

  able to get your oh this is good you [TS]

  know what I'm not going to use the [TS]

  internet i'm just going to postulate [TS]

  that's good John I like that because if [TS]

  there's a lot of snow you couldn't you [TS]

  know there's all kinds of it happens all [TS]

  the time when you open your front door [TS]

  and there's like four feet of snow [TS]

  that's all the tall but always have a [TS]

  lot of a lot of work by the door to door [TS]

  sales lobby [TS]

  I think involved to keep the doors [TS]

  opening in because your foot into a door [TS]

  you know that opens out didn't wasn't [TS]

  that their slogan for a while [TS]

  keep the doors opening in a lot of [TS]

  reasons why you would want your front [TS]

  door of your house to open in and I [TS]

  think that was probably the logic at the [TS]

  when they built this stadium door set up [TS]

  before and then it was like oh but in a [TS]

  case where there are 4,000 people [TS]

  trampling one another god through the [TS]

  doors open out I i always remember it [TS]

  being turned styles but maybe I'm maybe [TS]

  I'm getting that wrong maybe maybe turn [TS]

  styles were different Rock trampling I [TS]

  don't know if it's very interesting idea [TS]

  though I mean just done not super [TS]

  interesting but I think it's kind of [TS]

  interesting thing about a few if you [TS]

  have a door there it's there for a [TS]

  reason in for a door operatory as you [TS]

  know where a philosophy podcast i could [TS]

  say ah priori you don't operate your [TS]

  email you have it or blank slate blank [TS]

  slate unhappy little Rasta there you go [TS]

  to the Monad of my idea is that if you [TS]

  have a door is there for a reason and it [TS]

  has to be secure enough otherwise why [TS]

  have a door [TS]

  well thank you yes why have a door [TS]

  although there are decorative doors [TS]

  lots of them I'm sure you get the [TS]

  slightly a Japanese doors [TS]

  well you got those and then you have [TS]

  these foam corridors that they're so [TS]

  popular now which are popular open [TS]

  because the cheap-o like the yeah like [TS]

  the used to be when I was a kid you can [TS]

  take your finger off in a slamming door [TS]

  oh my god you slam a door it really [TS]

  youyou really emphasize your point a [TS]

  child could not pick up a door where it [TS]

  on the ground and now today you get the [TS]

  hollow corridors blue get out of here [TS]

  you can you punch one of those would be [TS]

  the right through it in the nineteen [TS]

  seventies when someone in the [TS]

  neighborhood slammed a door you knew it [TS]

  yeah right somebody down the block got [TS]

  mad slam the door [TS]

  gas prices with all this gal come on [TS]

  people were transitioning their their [TS]

  furnaces from coal to oil all got [TS]

  catalytic converters don't get me [TS]

  started you know what I so I know a [TS]

  little thing [TS]

  figure 2 about catalytic converters huh [TS]

  and did you know that certain catalytic [TS]

  converters early let's say early version [TS]

  1 catalytic converters beta have a lot [TS]

  of platinum and yeah they're worth a lot [TS]

  of money [TS]

  no hitting a dead old greasy old [TS]

  catalytic converter out of certain kinds [TS]

  of cars has a they know it has a scrap [TS]

  value several hundred dollars because of [TS]

  the precious metals that's insane why no [TS]

  cop maybe just on the wire but I know [TS]

  like stealing copper pipe is a big thing [TS]

  well yeah that's for a long time you you [TS]

  read Jesus his son right [TS]

  oh well still in copper pipe still [TS]

  copper wire and copper pipe out of old [TS]

  houses a major plot point i remember in [TS]

  Florida maybe concomitant with the rise [TS]

  of crack on people would break into [TS]

  houses under construction they would [TS]

  watch house under construction and see [TS]

  at the point when they got wiring and [TS]

  pipes and go and take it but imagine [TS]

  that show up one day like gosh uh well [TS]

  in fact there was an epidemic [TS]

  I don't know how widespread the epidemic [TS]

  was but it did qualify as an epidemic by [TS]

  the by the 70s centers for disease [TS]

  control standard of epidemic where [TS]

  people were actually sawing down those [TS]

  giant aluminum like interstate light [TS]

  poles those giant light poles that go up [TS]

  and illuminate an entire parking lot of [TS]

  entire walmart parking lot of yeah they [TS]

  were they were they were cutting them [TS]

  down with with power sauce because there [TS]

  was so much aluminum in them that the [TS]

  scrap value was like worth the effort [TS]

  that's so crazy now today looms like it [TS]

  has nothing right are giving it away [TS]

  here turns out there's been lots of [TS]

  changes in the requirement recycling [TS]

  quote-unquote industry i heard it's a [TS]

  real different game nowadays you have to [TS]

  really bargain the margins are thin and [TS]

  you have to like really watch like what [TS]

  the values are to figure out what's even [TS]

  worth of course are the Sun NPR so you [TS]

  could end up being the guy who doesn't [TS]

  collect all the recycling and then base [TS]

  we going like walgreen bottles are so [TS]

  out of demand right now that i'm just [TS]

  gonna take it to the dump [TS]

  that's your recycling yeah I I went [TS]

  through a phase 3 phase where I thought [TS]

  maybe I would be a sort of Sanford and [TS]

  Son style scrap metal level class glad [TS]

  that you can resume your life of tight [TS]

  it's a medical no no notnot my own [TS]

  personal scrap no professional Scott [TS]

  conventional scrap collecting where I [TS]

  what I was like somebody would say hey [TS]

  you do what you love you will clean out [TS]

  this live well and I'd go you know take [TS]

  all the rusty scrap and put it in a [TS]

  truck and take it to be the recycling [TS]

  place and you know they pay different [TS]

  amounts and they at the time they really [TS]

  wanted aluminum but they would they give [TS]

  you money for steel and a couple of [TS]

  times I role in there with the entire [TS]

  back of a f250 just piled to the you [TS]

  know just thought you could the truck [TS]

  couldn't carry any more garbage and you [TS]

  drive in there and they will that big [TS]

  magnet you just like grabbed everything [TS]

  that steel just grab everything that [TS]

  steel right out of the back of your [TS]

  truck you know they did the position [TS]

  that magnet right over your truck and [TS]

  you're sitting kind of it you can stay [TS]

  in the truck stay in the truck and and [TS]

  and it's sitting way down on it shocks [TS]

  because it's a store full of metal and [TS]

  then they turn on the power and like [TS]

  however many hundreds of pounds of [TS]

  garbage just is relieved from the truck [TS]

  instantly just like soap without picking [TS]

  up the truck doesn't pick it's not that [TS]

  you know they calibrated so that it was [TS]

  smart and yeah that's right right the [TS]

  first time they tried that they don't [TS]

  expect the consequences that's why they [TS]

  put a knob instead of a switch [TS]

  at first I didn't they just put a switch [TS]

  in there like doll [TS]

  what do you guys see 1.1 it's great to [TS]

  put an abend but up but they allow that [TS]

  must mean you really dramatic to see [TS]

  what's great it's not just to see [TS]

  because the truck then is all of a [TS]

  sudden there 900 pounds lighter and it [TS]

  bounces the truck bounces up on its [TS]

  shock absorbers liked by all it's very [TS]

  cool [TS]

  experience and then you go into the [TS]

  office and they give you like four and a [TS]

  half dollars [TS]

  oh really and you're like oh come on I [TS]

  me know so i think we we did it we did a [TS]

  run one time where there were where we [TS]

  made enough money that the two of us [TS]

  could get some mexican food and like a [TS]

  you know and split a six pack of beer so [TS]

  it's not a thing that you get rich doing [TS]

  hauling scrap I i have a recollection so [TS]

  funny today because now I mean is it is [TS]

  it everywhere it is i get the feeling [TS]

  that it's just a regressive cities like [TS]

  ours but we got three cans of black can [TS]

  for fruit for landfill we've got a kind [TS]

  of hate that every time I see landfill I [TS]

  just throw everything in there cause it [TS]

  makes me so furious [TS]

  mmm we got landfill is black i will [TS]

  compost is green and it's a little [TS]

  unconventional some places the greens [TS]

  for the recycling but are exactly is [TS]

  green blue green is diesel jeans diesel [TS]

  yeah you put diesel in and see this is [TS]

  they should really quantify this job [TS]

  that's super confusing but back in the [TS]

  day I remember when recycling first [TS]

  became a thing that I was aware of [TS]

  private eighth-grade probably bright not [TS]

  too far from the time of Ashley it's [TS]

  rocking America with the who i'm going [TS]

  to turn into that ok but we drank a [TS]

  metric shitton of coke in cannes i've [TS]

  drank all I mean I dragon unconscionable [TS]

  amount of coke for most of my life [TS]

  it is amazing that you got as far as you [TS]

  did I mean I when I was in college it [TS]

  was not unusual at all and i'm gonna i'm [TS]

  gonna make a gender division here [TS]

  because diet coke was all the rage then [TS]

  guys would drink a 12 pack of coke a day [TS]

  yeah a lot of the ladies might like a [TS]

  friendly drink easily drink a 12 pack of [TS]

  diet coke today all it's just all the [TS]

  bit just hearing this is like dissolving [TS]

  the pennies in the pocket of my [TS]

  aspartamay would be a pretty name for a [TS]

  girl as part of a a Spartan a supported [TS]

  a Spartan a start for mandarin lessons [TS]

  but about what we do is in this god this [TS]

  is so this is so gross but again back in [TS]

  Florida Suncoast as you say we would [TS]

  have big hefty bags and put the cans in [TS]

  there and save them up and I might be [TS]

  remembering this wrong but circa [TS]

  nineteen eighty-one I feel like I [TS]

  remember getting i want to say [TS]

  forty-five cents a pound for aluminum [TS]

  they were there aluminum at that [TS]

  point taken from steel to aluminum but I [TS]

  mean I don't think it's just something [TS]

  even possible that seems ridiculously [TS]

  high [TS]

  I remember walking away with like seven [TS]

  bucks sometimes well you know you may be [TS]

  there may have been a deposit involved [TS]

  also not in Florida buddy no okay out [TS]

  here now what we gotta go to you know I [TS]

  should do some sizzurp deposit on cans [TS]

  and income oh yeah we're no [TS]

  Massachusetts but let me see what it [TS]

  says here on the looking at myself can [TS]

  ya 17 to set recently says Bennett [TS]

  nickel but it's nikhil at least that is [TS]

  an awful lot that's I mean we stand by [TS]

  our coke in those big sixteen-ounce [TS]

  bottles because that was way easily the [TS]

  most economic way it is like and you are [TS]

  you want you a generic pop family [TS]

  uh well no shasta ok that's not that's [TS]

  not a generic are three kinds of [TS]

  families there's the there's the [TS]

  families that always only got coke the [TS]

  families that always only got pepsi and [TS]

  then there were the families like my [TS]

  poor dear friend Jon whose mom always [TS]

  bought whatever was on sale on the end [TS]

  cap was he had down some serious are [TS]

  seated so we didn't we had so rci [TS]

  consider a top-shelf call or at least a [TS]

  mid shuffle better than pepsi for sure [TS]

  well what how can you say that about [TS]

  pepsi i'll come on really [TS]

  now that the hornings had an interesting [TS]

  arrangement which was that I think they [TS]

  had generally like lots of different [TS]

  kinds of pop but the pepsi was for mrs. [TS]

  Horning only and you think you could go [TS]

  into the relating the NPR wooden houses [TS]

  it [TS]

  no no okay you could go with you could [TS]

  go into their the mornings house and you [TS]

  could get hires you can get a 7-up you [TS]

  Dr Pepper but did do not touch the pepsi [TS]

  that's only for mrs. morning mrs. [TS]

  Lawrence pepsi now [TS]

  Adolphus my good friend Adolphus Busch [TS]

  orth one-third it was given to his prom [TS]

  led by Clydesdales he because he's from [TS]

  Atlanta and because his name because his [TS]

  middle name is bush he drank a liter of [TS]

  coke every day I knew him and and he [TS]

  preferred it warm and flat huh huh [TS]

  now me I'm a I'm [TS]

  I'm pop agnostic right I'll drink any [TS]

  kind of pop except diet I won't drink a [TS]

  diet pop but anymore I don't drink I [TS]

  don't drink pop because of the reasons [TS]

  scraps of so many reasons but in the [TS]

  seventies i'm going to say that we drink [TS]

  a lot of shasta chest i think shasta is [TS]

  making a root beer but she has to also [TS]

  do the chest and make a variety of [TS]

  carbonated soft drinks [TS]

  yeah yeah and they had like a lemon line [TS]

  they had their own off-brand some right [TS]

  you keep saying off-brand alright i [TS]

  guess is some kind of grocery store so I [TS]

  I feel like I still have so much to [TS]

  learn [TS]

  I still have so much to grow as a person [TS]

  i'm still using so many of the old words [TS]

  yeah i know its offensive and defensive [TS]

  to call chesta off-brand I just I can't [TS]

  get used to it it's not a decision it's [TS]

  a right i know i know it's something you [TS]

  have to think about Merlin you just have [TS]

  to get ahead of your you just have to I [TS]

  don't know which of these kids today [TS]

  John they're not aware of how much [TS]

  variety there was in on brand drinks [TS]

  back then thank you yes well the world [TS]

  wants yet RC you had you had high but [TS]

  there's a whole bunch of them and then [TS]

  what's the generics came along forget [TS]

  about I mean it was crazy there was so [TS]

  much variety now growing up in in ohio [TS]

  did you have some regional pops like [TS]

  like Moon River nehi or whatever those [TS]

  things where like daddy's lynching yeah [TS]

  we had we had a we had lots of local [TS]

  beers there was you to pole and was [TS]

  called Hootie and there was what was the [TS]

  other one we had those I don't remember [TS]

  having regional I think maybe this is [TS]

  just a hot John Hodgman thing but I [TS]

  think of New York and New England as [TS]

  being like where you get some serious [TS]

  off-brand sodas yes are different [TS]

  differently branded sodas and also will [TS]

  some of those i would qualify as [TS]

  off-brand that's the one he's always [TS]

  going on about Moxie oxy yeah I've never [TS]

  had a moxie [TS]

  well there's a lot of those things [TS]

  little look hush pies and monkey brains [TS]

  and whatever that there's just all those [TS]

  desserts that little pies and cakes and [TS]

  stuff that that are actually regional [TS]

  just completely regional and not [TS]

  anything i'm interested in and then when [TS]

  you look at it you realize oh that's [TS]

  just a hostess cupcake [TS]

  but you're calling it something else [TS]

  right that's just you know what that is [TS]

  that's just normal mayonnaise but [TS]

  somehow you are calling it [TS]

  Hellmann's mayonnaise right I almonds [TS]

  man is it some kind of west of the [TS]

  Mississippi east of the Mississippi is [TS]

  how many best best foods that's right [TS]

  yeah it's sort of like with was all the [TS]

  fast-food place you get the Carl's jr. [TS]

  versus hardees I believe that right [TS]

  are you saying that those two things are [TS]

  equivalent I know hardees is the same as [TS]

  another place and it's Carl's jr. what's [TS]

  the other one what's the moment though [TS]

  with the fucking clown [TS]

  what's that one the jack-in-the-box all [TS]

  of them they all have a clown that's [TS]

  true that you're using a lot more clouds [TS]

  and food the burger king guys got a [TS]

  clown Ronald McDonald's clown [TS]

  jack-in-the-box thing is a little clown [TS]

  how do we still have our clouds still [TS]

  thing clown sell hamburgers [TS]

  I am coming up on 50 years old john i [TS]

  haven't I have never I have like maybe [TS]

  three clowns [TS]

  what about bob's big boy he was kind of [TS]

  a clown well I think he's like a [TS]

  diabetes clowns he had put with that [TS]

  hair that's superhero you go in [TS]

  Cincinnati that we didn't call Bob's we [TS]

  had frisch's frisch's big boy [TS]

  freshers big boy see what I would go [TS]

  places and people it's a Bob's Big Boy [TS]

  making me frisch's that's where the boy [TS]

  is what happened is a lot of those East [TS]

  Coast brands as they moved west people [TS]

  were like those names are two ethnic we [TS]

  don't want to sell any high almonds [TS]

  mayonnaise out here we'll just call it [TS]

  heaven names floated though they went [TS]

  pretty well the German names [TS]

  yeah yeah I mean cincinnati since [TS]

  there's a pretty german test selectors [TS]

  was a cold at the guitars [TS]

  no but I know the the big boys [TS]

  Oh freshers shrink like as infractions [TS]

  fresh fresh [TS]

  yes that's uh that's dish is a threat [TS]

  research just hamburgers [TS]

  um uh it was we had a thing out here [TS]

  where the the what was it called it was [TS]

  called her [TS]

  oh it was called Black Angus the Black [TS]

  Angus restaurant before [TS]

  I'm sorry I immediately think of Patton [TS]

  Oswalt's bit on that i have always will [TS]

  have a black angus but he has a great [TS]

  bit on the like aggressiveness not to do [TS]

  other people's jokes but like the [TS]

  aggressiveness of the ads you know about [TS]

  and this ridiculous amount of food that [TS]

  they bring to you it's like that part of [TS]

  their thing [TS]

  well see now I think this is the problem [TS]

  with black angus which is a which is a [TS]

  common enough phrase that I think there [TS]

  are multiple black angle guy out there [TS]

  and a California black angus probably [TS]

  has no relationship to the old chain [TS]

  washable I get it I get it I get I've [TS]

  you know what like for example I bet in [TS]

  earlier time they're probably a whole [TS]

  bunch of different Burger King's that [TS]

  didn't even know the other ones exist [TS]

  exactamundo before Don Draper got the [TS]

  account they were just there just a [TS]

  whole bunch of places called burger king [TS]

  burger Queen burgers who cares [TS]

  Thank You burger king there's a burger [TS]

  king in every town and i'm sure there [TS]

  was a black angus in every town but [TS]

  there was a guy here in Washington named [TS]

  Stuart anderson and he had a he had a [TS]

  big cattle ranch over by ellensburg and [TS]

  he opened up all these restaurants [TS]

  Stewart Anderson's cattle company [TS]

  I'm sorry you mentioned this in the last [TS]

  episode what he yeah you made a joke [TS]

  about indie rock band playing there and [TS]

  then people on Twitter started lighting [TS]

  up itself like some beloved steakhouse [TS]

  right well yeah except the cattle [TS]

  companies were what he had to start [TS]

  calling his restaurants because some [TS]

  other place named black angus sued him i [TS]

  think like Angus John I think that's [TS]

  like champagne [TS]

  I think that's one of those terms that [TS]

  means something it is it's a kind of cow [TS]

  yeah so anyway that the black but did I [TS]

  really mentioned this on the last [TS]

  episode what I'm having some kind of i'm [TS]

  having some kind of cattle company like [TS]

  fugue state where you're what you're [TS]

  having one locking Barkley call tabula [TS]

  rasa which is a kind of monad we're able [TS]

  to start fresh every week because we [TS]

  have such a good dialectic have a good [TS]

  dialectic that thesis you got the [TS]

  antithesis was you got this in addition [TS]

  synesthesia which i think is what [TS]

  foucault had when we made his pendulum [TS]

  yes I thesis antithesis have you ever [TS]

  seen Foucault's Pendulum yes they're [TS]

  incredible i think it was in I want to [TS]

  say Seattle don't think about what I [TS]

  went somewhere they had a big-ass [TS]

  pendulum and I kind of couldn't stop [TS]

  watching it [TS]

  did we go together was that one of those [TS]

  late night [TS]

  things where we went and yeah i think so [TS]

  is it night and it wasn't a giant room [TS]

  there's a pendulum and watch people are [TS]

  sitting around looking kind of [TS]

  bewildered i'll find out you know what [TS]

  I'm not looking at the world at the [TS]

  internet today but I'll find out what [TS]

  Foucault pendulum is it about my Ganga [TS]

  sorry i took a black angus no no I'm [TS]

  bottom so far going off a black angus [TS]

  know right now i'm looking at a picture [TS]

  of uh of of like people cause playing [TS]

  kiss that just appeared on my little [TS]

  kids [TS]

  yeah yeah we'll never agree on some [TS]

  out-of-work full-grown adults but well [TS]

  let me ask me get back to the question [TS]

  of you not looking at the internet today [TS]

  is that a thing that you just decided to [TS]

  do while we were talking or is that a [TS]

  thing that you woke up this morning and [TS]

  said I'm not looking at the internet you [TS]

  really want an answer yes [TS]

  ok i go into every episode with this [TS]

  idea in mind i am here to engage in [TS]

  mental intercourse intercourse with John [TS]

  it's not my job to be right [TS]

  it's not my job to be complete it's my [TS]

  job to be engaged so so and then I try [TS]

  to say you hear me sometimes exhale like [TS]

  this ago because i realize i gotta go [TS]

  look at the internet and then what [TS]

  happens like last week I looked at the [TS]

  internet and i still got almost [TS]

  everything I said wrong [TS]

  aah because I'm waiting scanning an [TS]

  article well I'm trying to have a mental [TS]

  intercourse with you and i that's like [TS]

  checking your watch [TS]

  so this is like the dow of Merlin yeah [TS]

  it is 10,000 steps begins with me [TS]

  yeah RSC I could go check but you know [TS]

  then you're gonna go through forgot this [TS]

  or like you've got some you to you [TS]

  you're using the voice of the of the [TS]

  internet I don't think that's a [TS]

  professor actually i am i've gone back [TS]

  i've fallen off the wagon which and the [TS]

  ebay wagon [TS]

  oh how i'm back on ebay again I decided [TS]

  at a certain point browsing or closing [TS]

  the deal to close some deals recently [TS]

  John so what happened was what had [TS]

  happened was so I had all these shirts [TS]

  that required that was our french cuff [TS]

  shirts they required cufflinks and i add [TS]

  a certain point I was like you know what [TS]

  that is a that [TS]

  is a dumb thing the dumb affectations [TS]

  and I'm gonna take all these cufflinks [TS]

  alright of shirts a whole these French [TS]

  come get ready get the shirt [TS]

  yeah they got to keep my fuckin complex [TS]

  for now you got it and then get so much [TS]

  more work to get in and out of this [TS]

  shirt so I'm like I'm done I'm done with [TS]

  the shirts the french cuff shirts I [TS]

  packed them all up and I put them in a [TS]

  bag [TS]

  I was like I'm taking him to the thrift [TS]

  store some some very affected young man [TS]

  is gonna fight he's gonna end it's gonna [TS]

  be a big guy right a very affected [TS]

  large-sized young man was going to find [TS]

  these shirts at the thrift store is [TS]

  gonna be thrilled and make his day but [TS]

  then I never made it to the thrift store [TS]

  and this the baggy shirts got kicked [TS]

  around and finally got kicked under the [TS]

  bed and I forgot about it and then I [TS]

  started needing to dress up a little bit [TS]

  more or rather I i started to have an [TS]

  excuse to think that i needed a dress up [TS]

  a little bit more because in seattle if [TS]

  you if you go and look at the pictures [TS]

  of the people that are running for City [TS]

  Council most of them are trying to [TS]

  communicate through their clothes that [TS]

  they're just regular people [TS]

  yeah and I'm trying to communicate [TS]

  through my clothes that i am not a [TS]

  regular people [TS]

  I'm a very fancy people we have plenty [TS]

  of regular people [TS]

  hey listen you want regular people in [TS]

  seattle city council you got a lot of [TS]

  people to vote for [TS]

  I just got the fish throwing place but [TS]

  if you want fancy people i'm your people [TS]

  and so I'm wondering around I'm like I [TS]

  gotta get I gotta you know I want to get [TS]

  fancier oh wait a minute what is fancier [TS]

  than french cuff shirts and then I [TS]

  thought oh no I gave those shirts away [TS]

  like a dummy i gave the shirts away just [TS]

  a few months before before I realized [TS]

  that I desperately needed the shorts so [TS]

  the other damn flipping my mattresses [TS]

  because it's spring I flip my mattress [TS]

  up lo and behold right there under the [TS]

  bed is this bag of french cuff shirts [TS]

  that I kicked around sartorio mana right [TS]

  it's like whoa hello [TS]

  it's like thank you God its butt [TS]

  haha song will you realize that oh my [TS]

  god it's like leaving cigarettes above [TS]

  the door frame right and then you own [TS]

  you're out of cigarettes you wander [TS]

  around for a while you're like I'm out [TS]

  of cigarettes damn it and then you [TS]

  realize oh wait a minute [TS]

  no I left cigarettes above the sitting [TS]

  on top of the door frames of every [TS]

  window and every door in this house [TS]

  their cigarettes everywhere here [TS]

  I mean it's just it's it's very [TS]

  equivalent you're actually really just [TS]

  forgotten about him you would that's the [TS]

  thing if you when you get a fresh pack [TS]

  of cigarettes what do you have you have [TS]

  20 brand-new cigarettes you guys in the [TS]

  end you have 20 brand-new cigarettes you [TS]

  feel like you got all the cigarettes for [TS]

  the rest of your life you never think [TS]

  that you're ever gonna run out of these [TS]

  20 cigarettes and soso life right there [TS]

  and so you take you take four out of the [TS]

  pack because you can spare them because [TS]

  you've got a million and you put you put [TS]

  one above the your bedroom door what [TS]

  about the bathroom door what above the [TS]

  good one on your respirator well above [TS]

  the window to the outside to hide one in [TS]

  the kitchen and then smoked the [TS]

  cigarettes like you you know like you [TS]

  just like you starting that pack for [TS]

  cigarettes in and then probably when you [TS]

  get to the end of that pack of [TS]

  cigarettes you'll be out a story you'll [TS]

  get another pack you'll be three or four [TS]

  packs later before you're back at your [TS]

  house and out of cigarettes [TS]

  Wow and so you've forgotten about the [TS]

  four until that that little voice in the [TS]

  back your head says thank you passed me [TS]

  thank you passed me for thinking of me [TS]

  present me and putting those cigarettes [TS]

  around well so this is what happened [TS]

  with my french cuff shirts and then I [TS]

  realized if I'm gonna be fancy I two [TS]

  things need to happen one I need to [TS]

  figure out how to how to patronize a dry [TS]

  cleaner because I've never done that [TS]

  oh really now let us write you you did [TS]

  the Sun on principle right never know [TS]

  on principle never use the dry cleaner [TS]

  well and never used an iron-on principal [TS]

  you put in the shower [TS]

  well no I just wear it wrinkled because [TS]

  I'm because i have a rumpled style [TS]

  authentic but I showed up to a couple of [TS]

  things and and other people were like [TS]

  yeah did you did you put those clothes [TS]

  on wet and then go to bed and I was like [TS]

  looking through their opera glasses [TS]

  they're like I said we've talked about [TS]

  this my ruffled style and then they [TS]

  showed me a photograph of me standing in [TS]

  a line with like six other people some [TS]

  of them trying to look like regular [TS]

  people over but everybody's iron to [TS]

  their shirts and I did I looked like a [TS]

  pile of dirty clothes so i may need to [TS]

  figure out how to use a dry cleaner and [TS]

  bi needed new cufflinks [TS]

  so I started going on ebay and after i [TS]

  was on there for awhile i decided that i [TS]

  wanted my cufflinks all to have stars of [TS]

  david on them because that was a kind of [TS]

  fashion of judaica after the war to have [TS]

  have your your little blue cufflinks [TS]

  with the star of david i don't know why [TS]

  that they appealed to me so that I was [TS]

  like I had to I had to buy the ones that [TS]

  I saw I don't know what I'm going to be [TS]

  communicating that is really [TS]

  unconventional to people but i really [TS]

  like the little I like the like with it [TS]

  i don't know i like the pictures [TS]

  certainly gonna get people a certain [TS]

  five [TS]

  yea though but the thing is that this is [TS]

  the thing about this is the thing about [TS]

  cufflinks nobody ever looks at them [TS]

  the only way that people look at them as [TS]

  if you lift up your cuff link and wagon [TS]

  in their face [TS]

  oh yeah you know people talk about that [TS]

  with the the apple watch that that you [TS]

  know it's something for people like me [TS]

  who don't wear a watch [TS]

  we don't think about gosh that's silly [TS]

  but watch people notice watches you know [TS]

  coupling people are going to his [TS]

  cufflinks right but how many coupling [TS]

  people are there right [TS]

  not very many I'm with you I'm with you [TS]

  so and i figure i figured the very few [TS]

  the tiny minority of coupling people [TS]

  that will actually ever see my cufflinks [TS]

  and and then have a giant like ? appear [TS]

  above their head and I will be able to [TS]

  take the time in eighty-five percent of [TS]

  those cases to sit and talk to them and [TS]

  explain [TS]

  explain that I don't know why I'm [TS]

  wearing this badge on the star of david [TS]

  part I think is going to be the most [TS]

  frequently asked questions about your [TS]

  cufflinks [TS]

  yep I think that's true i have I so I [TS]

  have a lot of them that I'm some of them [TS]

  are real real nice antiques they're very [TS]

  beautiful and i'm not sure what [TS]

  explanation i can offer on that he [TS]

  should come up with something that's got [TS]

  you that they appealed to me [TS]

  well I'm glad you asked me about my [TS]

  cufflinks never done as you know my [TS]

  father David servant and unfortunately [TS]

  for my family we have no there is [TS]

  absolutely no connection to a the tribes [TS]

  of Israel haha [TS]

  is that right there's not a single even [TS]

  ten general connection and so I'm I'm [TS]

  completely out in the around the weeds [TS]

  and I guess I could just say like I [TS]

  really like the little star [TS]

  yeah but I I'm not sure that's gonna you [TS]

  know of of the of the fifteen percent of [TS]

  people that I'm not gonna have a chance [TS]

  to adequately explain i'm not sure like [TS]

  what percentage of those people are [TS]

  going to accept that right right like I [TS]

  liked it [TS]

  mm so did you go to ebay in search of [TS]

  these things I went to ebay in search of [TS]

  cufflinks and then once I got there I [TS]

  discovered that star of david cufflinks [TS]

  were thing and I said why should these [TS]

  beautiful things only be available two [TS]

  rabbis who liked who else is going to [TS]

  wear these things sharp-looking rabbis [TS]

  sharp-looking rabbis why should they [TS]

  have why should they like get these and [TS]

  no one else can [TS]

  so then I was then I decided that I it [TS]

  wasn't a decision exactly i just bought [TS]

  a pair and then I was like if i get to [TS]

  then I have a collection lookbook pretty [TS]

  soon you know pretty soon I was like not [TS]

  exactly scouring but i had to take a [TS]

  break look at the main focus [TS]

  yeah right you don't want to just be on [TS]

  the internet like looking at it [TS]

  there's 20,000 cufflinks on there and [TS]

  because they're like they are like [TS]

  accordions there was a time there was a [TS]

  time when the gentleman i just want to [TS]

  let you know i haven't thinking a lot [TS]

  about this election [TS]

  I you know what company is a lot like an [TS]

  accordion most people don't know how to [TS]

  play it and they wouldn't know what to [TS]

  play if they did that's exactly right [TS]

  there was a time when accordions were [TS]

  very fashionable there was an accordion [TS]

  in every well-appointed house accordions [TS]

  and it would be so hard to check that's [TS]

  that [TS]

  but you're not looking at the internet [TS]

  right now so if there's no way for you [TS]

  to know you have to accept me to get [TS]

  your word [TS]

  listen weird al yankovic is a perfect [TS]

  example of a young man who learned to [TS]

  play accordion during the era when [TS]

  accordion playing was very fashionable I [TS]

  had accordion lessons as a kid [TS]

  you're kidding now you did it could you [TS]

  still play an accordion you think [TS]

  no I mean I could do that over in chords [TS]

  with my hand but that's about it now I [TS]

  don't derail you but now it was doing on [TS]

  saturday mornings right at the beginning [TS]

  of the new season a TV super frustrating [TS]

  all right brand new Batman franchise and [TS]

  i was at their plan like Little Brown [TS]

  Jug morning [TS]

  oh well anyway so now there is what we [TS]

  like what we in the business call a glut [TS]

  of accordions right there are a lot more [TS]

  really I bet they're hard to fix it but [TS]

  that's part of it i bet it once it [TS]

  doesn't work exactly right you just get [TS]

  rid of it it goes into disuse and goes [TS]

  away [TS]

  yeah they are impossible to fix and [TS]

  there are very few accordion fixtures [TS]

  left but everybody who has an accordion [TS]

  recognizes that it is kind of a [TS]

  miraculous instrument and they all think [TS]

  that accordions are worth a lot of money [TS]

  right there broken ass rusty old you [TS]

  know blown-out accordion is like a cash [TS]

  cow is range imagine but the problem is [TS]

  that for every person who can play the [TS]

  accordion their 50 accordions that's [TS]

  what that's why there are so many [TS]

  parameters this like the world with [TS]

  corporates morning edition [TS]

  turns out and cufflinks the same way [TS]

  like I huh [TS]

  the hipsters have not decided that [TS]

  couples for their new thing they're all [TS]

  busy where monocles so so the only [TS]

  people better and and like old people [TS]

  are dying but seriously by the tens of [TS]

  thousands every day how many how many [TS]

  recordings with us meet in America [TS]

  become available everyday I'll bet you [TS]

  I'll bet you fifty eight accordions are [TS]

  are liberated from this mortal coil [TS]

  everyday i would say that was even i [TS]

  would say that was even conservative i [TS]

  would say was something country like 63 [TS]

  new accordions on the hook set loose as [TS]

  the dying wish of their owner [TS]

  hi I I free you sir like that musical [TS]

  nutria just go right I'll go let makeup [TS]

  make a living for yourself out there and [TS]

  and cufflinks are I think that's that [TS]

  you'd have to add two zeros to that I [TS]

  think there's 6300 fresh pair of [TS]

  cufflinks re-entering the stream [TS]

  everyday and no nobody knows where to [TS]

  nobody knows what to do with them or [TS]

  where to work where they should go so [TS]

  I'm kind of i'm calling I'm calling the [TS]

  ones from the herd that appealed to me [TS]

  from for a while I was I was I was I was [TS]

  getting ones that had little trains on [TS]

  them but then I realized that the train [TS]

  ones are i think that i think that the [TS]

  railroads gave them out as like I mean [TS]

  not to kids and stuff it wasn't like [TS]

  everything like a service award [TS]

  exactly yeah yeah we're like the [TS]

  salesman would come through he's trying [TS]

  to sell you I don't know what train [TS]

  salesman tried to tell you but trying to [TS]

  do you know buying and selling right [TS]

  America and and the cufflinks or one of [TS]

  the that was a kind of a party favor now [TS]

  hmm it's not strictly a Polaroid model [TS]

  because the Polaroid model like the [TS]

  Gillette model you get the dingus for [TS]

  very cheap or free and then you have [TS]

  costly refills for it you kinda gotta to [TS]

  a connection here tho cuz now if you're [TS]

  going to start doing that you're going [TS]

  to need more shirts as well right [TS]

  well so this is this is the big question [TS]

  that i have to ask myself everyday [TS]

  other people i presume make do with a [TS]

  limited supply of things ever write [TS]

  write write it in addition that it's a [TS]

  there's a high and maybe not impossibly [TS]

  financial but i would say hi existential [TS]

  cost of maintenance m2 having clean [TS]

  clothes for example right thanks effort [TS]

  but like I think traditionally you had [TS]

  what five dress shirts but you had like [TS]

  one pretty good hat and one pretty good [TS]

  jacket in your ward most days I'm i had [TS]

  had the shirts and you did the laundry [TS]

  every weekend and and then you went back [TS]

  through your shirts I didn't I don't [TS]

  think he'd like a lot of extra shirt or [TS]

  extra shoes and because of because of my [TS]

  lifestyle choices because it might you [TS]

  know let's just let's just call it what [TS]

  it is because of my lifestyle i have a [TS]

  lot of shirts and so do i need more [TS]

  shirts i don't i have to say i have to [TS]

  wake up every morning and quell that [TS]

  feeling that at that way it really wakes [TS]

  me up i don't have enough shirts and [TS]

  then I wake up and I'm like you've got a [TS]

  lot of shirts guy just Shh you don't [TS]

  need anymore sure and then that the [TS]

  other voices a little bit more high [TS]

  pitch and it's like people sure I bet [TS]

  you're not committed just clarifies I [TS]

  think i mighta gotten this wrong you're [TS]

  not committed to going French cuffs only [TS]

  no no no French cups [TS]

  I mean like every affectation not gonna [TS]

  be your Paul Simon bowtie that haha well [TS]

  there was down sticks we're both I [TS]

  remember I thought you meant palsy other [TS]

  point apartments little horrible man was [TS]

  have my up and uneven looking for [TS]

  couplings no I don't think I think made [TS]

  the fifties or in the forties in the [TS]

  forties my dad decided that he was going [TS]

  to be a bowtie guy he was going to be a [TS]

  bowtie guy a tweed jacket guy [TS]

  Wow and so at the beginning of his [TS]

  career this is the beginning of his [TS]

  career he was a veteran but he was a vet [TS]

  it was a he was a university washington [TS]

  law school graduate and he was he was [TS]

  gonna wear tweed jacket in a bowtie [TS]

  everywhere he went [TS]

  and so if you can think back to like [TS]

  what was fashionable for other people to [TS]

  wear in the fifties it was not a tweed [TS]

  jacket about I but he stuck to it he [TS]

  stuck to that look all the way until he [TS]

  met my mother and my mother thought at [TS]

  the top of at the time 1958-59 like the [TS]

  beginning of the mad men era right she [TS]

  said you look like a pile of dirty [TS]

  clothes [TS]

  not coincidentally that that kind of [TS]

  look is it's really cool but it would [TS]

  probably be a little bit fuddy-duddy [TS]

  against the four more popular fitted [TS]

  suits of the time yeah funny and dirty [TS]

  you got sure you get your get your lady [TS]

  friend and her you know she now like new [TS]

  look for her Dior like new look em [TS]

  journal he's got our hands tucked in a [TS]

  little muff and you look a little to let [TS]

  you run around like half of the [TS]

  humanities professor yeah you look like [TS]

  Orville Redenbacher so my mom said you [TS]

  got it you got a dish it you gotta ditch [TS]

  this look at my dad went kicking and [TS]

  screaming but then she bought him a lot [TS]

  of slick suits and all of a sudden he [TS]

  felt like a pretty pretty smooth [TS]

  operator [TS]

  so I don't want to make that mistake i [TS]

  don't want to continue that mistake [TS]

  through subsequent generations right [TS]

  sure where I decide oh I'm French cups [TS]

  bowtie guy [TS]

  all I need now is a pocket watch and and [TS]

  some of those colored wing tips and you [TS]

  know and the just you just said put me [TS]

  out to pasture you just put me on the [TS]

  cover of real simple magazine and the [TS]

  other will surprise you could not where [TS]

  I want to live [TS]

  that's not it at all so no I so I don't [TS]

  know this french cuff thing I mean it's [TS]

  really in a lot of ways it's it's [TS]

  reprehensible but uh but you know there [TS]

  i am staring at myself in the mirror [TS]

  asking that perennial question who are [TS]

  you dude you're right [TS]

  who among us doesn't look at ourselves [TS]

  in the mirror and say who are you dude [TS]

  that actually there's a question I've [TS]

  been wondering if I could interject [TS]

  absolutely i mean i don't know i don't [TS]

  uh I think it's probably reflected so to [TS]

  speak and in my peril in my carriage [TS]

  that I don't spend a lot of time looking [TS]

  in the mirror I don't really are you [TS]

  dude [TS]

  no no I'm not as much as I should I [TS]

  don't think about it that much I mean [TS]

  obviously I'm racked with self doubt and [TS]

  fear but i don't actually think that [TS]

  much about how I look until I see how I [TS]

  look and then I go wow that's how your [TS]

  body is shaped like that's a different [TS]

  thing [TS]

  well you know I mean I'm am I think [TS]

  getting to that stage were just [TS]

  congenitally you start looking like an [TS]

  old guy [TS]

  no I mean yes your hair getting gray [TS]

  getting wrinkly and stuff like that but [TS]

  just you know getting a little bit like [TS]

  didn't used to have like a little bit of [TS]

  a chest this is kind of weird and like [TS]

  and now i'm getting those like old man [TS]

  calves and stuff like that and that's [TS]

  kinda weird but again now because of my [TS]

  life is I don't have to think about that [TS]

  much my wife is super nice about not [TS]

  saying anything I'm very chic [TS]

  yeah she's pretty sharp but you now have [TS]

  to go play and you always go places and [TS]

  I know you're a sharp dresser but at the [TS]

  same time don't do you have to see I've [TS]

  seen more new photos of you in the last [TS]

  three weeks then probably the last [TS]

  couple years before that maybe and you [TS]

  always look good but is it weird to you [TS]

  and your self-image to see a photo of [TS]

  yourself has that changed at all now [TS]

  that you are going to see more of what [TS]

  you look like to the world [TS]

  well there's no question that i am that [TS]

  i am rocking a serious dad vibe now [TS]

  there's no pretending for instance if i [TS]

  put on some skinny jeans and some [TS]

  checkerboard bands i look like a dad in [TS]

  skinny jeans and checkerboard bands [TS]

  thats it's not nobody's going to mistake [TS]

  me for a skater [TS]

  hello fellow students [TS]

  so but you know this is the question [TS]

  about fashion what is it right what is [TS]

  it and and the people that don't care [TS]

  about it uh are legitimate [TS]

  I mean that they are completely they're [TS]

  completely right to not care about it [TS]

  but then there are then there are people [TS]

  for whom [TS]

  fashion is their entire lives it's their [TS]

  career it's their hearts [TS]

  yeah okay I just to clarify though [TS]

  here's what i'm talking about give you [TS]

  I'll give you an example an additional [TS]

  examples of accidentally see myself in a [TS]

  mirror and making a little screaming [TS]

  noise on it's been a big week with the [TS]

  Star Wars trailer coming out and it [TS]

  coincided I've right as you watch it [TS]

  well yeah of course my god how can i [TS]

  watch it like here's my question to you [TS]

  yeah chewy and that Han Solo have [TS]

  different homes they do not come back to [TS]

  one place and say is we're home but they [TS]

  see a lot of people are guessing that [TS]

  means they've been away for a long time [TS]

  I think it could be that they were on [TS]

  some kind of mission right before this [TS]

  happened but where's Han Solo's home it [TS]

  was never established is Corellian but i [TS]

  think he travels a lot so are they part [TS]

  are they arriving at Corellia so here's [TS]

  the thing [TS]

  Chewie lives on Planet Chewbacca katka [TS]

  chic just shake with 3 y's yeah that [TS]

  just seemed I don't know and you know [TS]

  and I studied the video could you see [TS]

  Hansel is your ring and necklace the [TS]

  earrings you're wearing what I've but [TS]

  i'm not sure i feel like i couldn't see [TS]

  through the tears [TS]

  hello my god cheering I felt 10 years [TS]

  old again John it was in a way that guy [TS]

  is here a phrase like that but like I [TS]

  was like transported all right look here [TS]

  well let me let me let me let me give [TS]

  you let me give you a side-by-side [TS]

  comparison okay ready [TS]

  on the one hand Chewie get us out of [TS]

  here who on the other hand to we were [TS]

  home [TS]

  come on it's a really good about it's a [TS]

  teaser it's a teaser it's a teaser you [TS]

  know what I obviously one thing about [TS]

  this i just hope he's still weary [TS]

  watched many of the Star Wars movies in [TS]

  the last couple weeks which is which is [TS]

  what makes this time kind of interesting [TS]

  did you go back and watch negative 3 [TS]

  negative 2 negative 1 [TS]

  um i have special versions of those [TS]

  that we can watch em I have so much to [TS]

  talk about [TS]

  yes I damn you don't care about Star [TS]

  Wars but you know what I do care about [TS]

  special versions of things okay okay [TS]

  kinda put a pin in that for just a [TS]

  second okay cuz all i want to say [TS]

  because this is this is why i'm asking [TS]

  you these questions important your [TS]

  candidacy yeah so my kid has seen we [TS]

  didn't watch perspex back but we've [TS]

  watched a you know New Hope AKA star [TS]

  wars we watched a special version of [TS]

  return of the jedi and we've recently [TS]

  watched as i mentioned last week we've [TS]

  watched episode negative 1 right that's [TS]

  three [TS]

  yeah a couple times recently so anyway [TS]

  so the trailer came out she was not as [TS]

  excited as I am but she's pretty excited [TS]

  but so I watch like six times that day [TS]

  talking on twitter bike ride and [TS]

  everything and she comes home from [TS]

  school I told her one picture of school [TS]

  like you're gonna there's a trailer for [TS]

  the new stores where you can watch it [TS]

  watch it [TS]

  she was so excited and like a lot of a [TS]

  reaction was similar to mine or so [TS]

  what's happening there [TS]

  oh my gosh who is that and we talked a [TS]

  little bit about our records about that [TS]

  then you see the Millennium Falcon and [TS]

  she was kind of excited and I was [TS]

  excited too because like we just wait [TS]

  just wait just wait because black it [TS]

  comes back up here or chewy it comes [TS]

  back up [TS]

  we're home I'm crying she goes he's so [TS]

  old haha it's like you have it isn't [TS]

  that great they're still together it's [TS]

  in that same pose from she's like oh my [TS]

  gosh let's watch it you can watch it [TS]

  again same reaction he's so old now all [TS]

  I'm saying is that we will then of [TS]

  course we continue to pick up the ipad [TS]

  we do a google search on Star Wars then [TS]

  and now and she had exactly the same [TS]

  remark about every single person and I'm [TS]

  like aah time they the same thing [TS]

  happened like nine times where she goes [TS]

  um like oh my god I'm stability party [TS]

  Kenny Baker is so old I go yeah but he [TS]

  looks pretty good look and there's a guy [TS]

  who plays c-3po and also he looks [TS]

  awesome he looks really fits because he [TS]

  looks so old and that's all she could [TS]

  say to every one of these which makes [TS]

  total sense because she's used to seeing [TS]

  these people 38 years ago [TS]

  yeah well as I look at them and go while [TS]

  they look they look pretty good [TS]

  yeah do you my question to you is do you [TS]

  ever have a John recovering then and now [TS]

  moment you ever see yourself and go what [TS]

  wow you look good you look good but you [TS]

  do have like a white a grayish beard [TS]

  is a great no it's great it's great this [TS]

  is the thing i have aged by i have aged [TS]

  very quickly i think because when I was [TS]

  38 I had a little bit of gray coming [TS]

  into my beard that looked kind of blonde [TS]

  when I was 40 it looked like that when I [TS]

  was 42 it looked like that and then [TS]

  between coming Steve Martin hack Steve [TS]

  Martin went gray he won't prematurely [TS]

  gray so he's in his like his twenties or [TS]

  thirties he's going gray and so now we [TS]

  see him when he's like 60 or 70 like wow [TS]

  he looks pretty good because the elta is [TS]

  not there he doesn't look that different [TS]

  but I do i do look different to myself [TS]

  when I see a picture now because the [TS]

  gray came in i think really fast like in [TS]

  the last three years four years and I [TS]

  and now I'm legitimately like gray beard [TS]

  guy and a dad it's one of those things [TS]

  where you see somebody from a distance [TS]

  and you're like oh here comes some 65 [TS]

  year old guy and then when they get up [TS]

  closer you're like oh he's actually just [TS]

  a gray 46-year old guy right right but [TS]

  that is there is a little bit of a of a [TS]

  like a shocker to me and not just when I [TS]

  see a picture of myself taking candidly [TS]

  and I go I still fat but like also now [TS]

  like and gray like a fat and gray but [TS]

  what can you do what can you do about [TS]

  that like I've been idea i honestly did [TS]

  not mean it as like getting you say oh I [TS]

  like old I didn't mean it that way at [TS]

  all i just meant it was the unusual now [TS]

  that that's that's going to be kind of [TS]

  part of what you do like when you're on [TS]

  a stage with other people like you know [TS]

  the natural human impulse all the times [TS]

  to like try suss out what somebody is up [TS]

  to with how they look at how they carry [TS]

  themselves and how that compares [TS]

  together people on stage doesn't ever [TS]

  seem strange to see yourself in that [TS]

  situation [TS]

  uh yeah it does just because well for [TS]

  instance like now that I now that i have [TS]

  thrown my hat into the ring as a as a [TS]

  political person in Seattle and I and I [TS]

  recognize that the other people [TS]

  in the ring are all people who have been [TS]

  practicing this style of dance more or [TS]

  less their whole adult lives and i am a [TS]

  dancer i am a i'm a i'm a good dancer [TS]

  but I am a dancer in a different style [TS]

  of dance right I've probably had my [TS]

  picture taken more than everyone onstage [TS]

  combined but in a very different context [TS]

  and so I'm sitting up on a dais with a [TS]

  bunch of other candidates listening to [TS]

  them talk [TS]

  watching them interact with one another [TS]

  and and and the people right and and and [TS]

  even that like I when I interact with a [TS]

  with a crowd i interact with them like [TS]

  an audience and a p a group of people at [TS]

  a political event are not exactly an [TS]

  audience or they're not an audience in [TS]

  the same way you know they ra ther the [TS]

  polity or whatever the ya know if that's [TS]

  a good distinction [TS]

  yeah so I set up there and then I see a [TS]

  photograph of the of the group and well [TS]

  for instance right like my collar is [TS]

  wrinkled and no one else's color is [TS]

  wrinkled now in in the last 25 years [TS]

  I've never looked at a picture of myself [TS]

  and thought my collar is wrinkled I but [TS]

  now it stands out so I'm learning a new [TS]

  style of dance and part of that is like [TS]

  learning to look at myself in pictures a [TS]

  different way and i'm studying i'm still [TS]

  cutting my own hair so I'm not going to [TS]

  be I'm not going to be too slick just by [TS]

  just by by virtue of like the inherent [TS]

  problems in cutting your hair with with [TS]

  scissors children says scissors that you [TS]

  got out of the junk drawer but yeah I'm [TS]

  I what what I'm curious about is now [TS]

  that i have gone gray in my beard will I [TS]

  will I have another sort of 15 years [TS]

  where I kind of don't appear to age very [TS]

  much [TS]

  right like I'm great now and when I'm 60 [TS]

  lb gray and am I just going to be just [TS]

  increase [TS]

  singly sort of grey on the same at the [TS]

  same tempo didn't all happen is it like [TS]

  those those guys but like they have a [TS]

  full head of hair when they're 17 and [TS]

  then by the time they're 21 they've just [TS]

  gone completely bald right this [TS]

  testosterone guys who can grow a [TS]

  mustache like 11 [TS]

  well this is the thing about standing [TS]

  next to John Hodgman one of the things [TS]

  that that people don't know about [TS]

  Hodgman is that he is actually of [TS]

  italian ancestry so he has he has this [TS]

  kind of Sandy hair that makes you think [TS]

  that he's just part of the American [TS]

  Yankee hair people but when he grows [TS]

  that black mustache figures parent for [TS]

  The Paris Review right you would think [TS]

  but in fact there they are they are [TS]

  Italian and a and so he has this this [TS]

  mustache that looks like he's just [TS]

  dumping Grecian formula [TS]

  well I get it but it's not it's his [TS]

  natural it just he's got the black [TS]

  mustache and so he won't go his [TS]

  moustache will be black I think for many [TS]

  many many many years before it starts to [TS]

  get salt and pepper in it [TS]

  I only hope I wish that for him yeah [TS]

  Jonathan Coulton he appears to not age [TS]

  because of science is using science but [TS]

  me I'm just I yeah I think it waited and [TS]

  waited in the wings aging it was lurking [TS]

  there behind the curtain [TS]

  alright and then it just left on my ex [TS]

  what I think that age is what I ended up [TS]

  kind of unintentional glomming onto I [TS]

  and I'm not asking for more information [TS]

  necessarily i meant more in the sense of [TS]

  like it must be strange to just know [TS]

  that people are looking at you and [TS]

  taking your photograph and like it must [TS]

  be strange to see yourself and go like [TS]

  you know that's how i look like to other [TS]

  people not just not just a just seems [TS]

  weird i act maybe it's just me that's [TS]

  always that's always been through and I [TS]

  get that make up my mind that Michael [TS]

  Jackson disease alopecia [TS]

  that's the one that's the one where you [TS]

  think you are we with the body [TS]

  dysmorphia always there for you [TS]

  we don't you think you your nose is too [TS]

  big or something I think that you I [TS]

  think you're seeing pictures of me more [TS]

  because you weren't looking for pictures [TS]

  of me before but there are all people [TS]

  are always taking pictures of me and [TS]

  putting them online and I have a I have [TS]

  a fantastic time line of like well I was [TS]

  better then that i am now that's good [TS]

  oh boy those pictures I've some thinner [TS]

  than I am now like you know you can [TS]

  always look online and and find a [TS]

  picture that will either make you feel [TS]

  like you're doing good or that you're [TS]

  not quite doing [TS]

  hello brother do I know it right I got a [TS]

  I got a robot scale that when you step [TS]

  on to put your record it to you know a [TS]

  little internet thing so you can see a [TS]

  graph over time what [TS]

  Oh towards privates private but it's [TS]

  it's it's very very interesting and i [TS]

  would not I do not have a scale i would [TS]

  not step on a scale well and that the [TS]

  other thing is that like it may be that [TS]

  matters maybe your weight in particular [TS]

  ones wait tracks more directly to your [TS]

  bodily appearance when you're in your [TS]

  thirties we go like I gained 10 pounds [TS]

  but that matter we get older you start [TS]

  looking all fucked up [TS]

  well here's the here's a crazy thing [TS]

  that I cannot account for I am able to [TS]

  wear the same pants that i was able to [TS]

  wear 15 years it is buckling runyon [TS]

  heats know they fit the same the pants [TS]

  are the same and they fit the same right [TS]

  and yet i clearly weigh 30 pounds more [TS]

  now where is that 30 pounds it in bone [TS]

  density am i carrying it in my head did [TS]

  my ears calcified I know what you're [TS]

  saying it is very very weird and it's i [TS]

  remember when i started in the Atkins [TS]

  diet one things that few things that [TS]

  actually seemed sensible continues to [TS]

  seem sensible we just we just cross the [TS]

  old man rubicon go in here when your [TS]

  wire jars so hard to open up and help [TS]

  everybody is that the idea I've heard [TS]

  this in other places i think this is [TS]

  really sensible is like don't wear [TS]

  yourself everyday unless you're doing [TS]

  that diet where you're yourself everyday [TS]

  but if you're trying to lose weight [TS]

  better exercise more and when [TS]

  your clothes start feeling different [TS]

  when you're close start fitting [TS]

  differently that's when you know that [TS]

  something is changing don't even think [TS]

  of don't even worry about it just do [TS]

  your best and really stick with it as [TS]

  many days as you can and if one wants to [TS]

  in this case lose weight and when your [TS]

  clothes fit different that's when you'll [TS]

  know but then I mean what she wants that [TS]

  I had like a you know I had that stupid [TS]

  thing happened last summer where I was [TS]

  really stressed out with that kind of [TS]

  Health in the family and i lost like ten [TS]

  pounds in a week and a half and I [TS]

  suddenly plummeted and all my clothes [TS]

  are like hanging off of me and it kind [TS]

  of stuck for a little while but then boo [TS]

  just came right back and before [TS]

  everything fit just fucking beer all you [TS]

  talk about star wars two guys Star Wars [TS]

  well no you got the hell away from star [TS]

  wars because you didn't want to tell me [TS]

  about all your secret episode [TS]

  oh yeah yeah I don't say a little about [TS]

  this here's the thing you know people [TS]

  I've always about to say George Lucas [TS]

  has frustrated people i'm not going to [TS]

  say that I'm gonna say people have found [TS]

  themselves frustrated by certain aspects [TS]

  of Star Wars movies and so there's these [TS]

  just writ large there's this interesting [TS]

  okay so you got the original trilogy of [TS]

  movies 4 5 & 6 that most people think [TS]

  are like pretty good the Ewoks maybe a [TS]

  little bit over the top and then you got [TS]

  the prequels episode 123 and there are [TS]

  these groups of people will be there are [TS]

  these people that I go in and I would [TS]

  say most when it comes mostly to the [TS]

  newer movies the prequels they do what [TS]

  are called fan edits where they will go [TS]

  in any what [TS]

  yeah and it's august first fan edits [TS]

  there somewhere just for preservation [TS]

  there's there's some that are for [TS]

  changing the plot and there's some that [TS]

  are just trying to as much as possible [TS]

  try to find the movie that wanted to be [TS]

  the original movie what is this the riff [TS]

  track skies that are doing this are [TS]

  going to fan at around i'm not going on [TS]

  the internet not for this haha [TS]

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  anyway they go and we at the movies and [TS]

  depending on your taste you can [TS]

  theoretically find one of these movies [TS]

  to watch that does things like reduces [TS]

  Jar Jar Binks to having a total four [TS]

  lines of dialogue in the entire trilogy [TS]

  oh I see also the fans are jumping in [TS]

  and making the movies better on behalf [TS]

  of George look they're making the well [TS]

  Lou [TS]

  they're making a difference on behalf of [TS]

  themselves IC ok so the other thing and [TS]

  this is the one that I think might [TS]

  interest you Morgan mostly try to avoid [TS]

  those unless your daughter finds out [TS]

  about them and then you're screwed like [TS]

  four five and six [TS]

  here's the hard part it's hard to find a [TS]

  really good copy of a high quality copy [TS]

  of the original theatrical release of [TS]

  endorphins you have to you have to have [TS]

  a laserdisc player right that's the last [TS]

  known full good copy and so you're stuck [TS]

  with like the special edition lon or the [TS]

  rear special edition one everything's [TS]

  pink and like this all these different [TS]

  things so so there's been this effort to [TS]

  go through and try to make the a copy of [TS]

  star wars and the irony in all this [TS]

  isn't gonna hold up about this is george [TS]

  lucas i think essentially this point [TS]

  he's claiming that there's not a good [TS]

  copy more sorry about that but we can't [TS]

  put up in 1977 Star Wars I don't know I [TS]

  lost its here somewhere it's in the [TS]

  couch or something [TS]

  so what people have done is taking an [TS]

  original copy of star wars or whatever [TS]

  quality knowing what each shot is how [TS]

  its color graded and everything going [TS]

  through and basically finding the [TS]

  highest quality available version of [TS]

  every shot and music and whatever that [TS]

  matches the original so it's not an edit [TS]

  in the usual sense and i'm not saying [TS]

  this is perfect i'm not saying it's [TS]

  right on the st. anything it's super [TS]

  interesting that those are called the d [TS]

  specialized editions so people go in and [TS]

  you get if there's parts on the blu-ray [TS]

  that exactly match was in the original [TS]

  that's the copy they use it is a DVD [TS]

  thing that's the highest quality version [TS]

  all i see so they use so they go to the [TS]

  the the contemporary source that is the [TS]

  highest quality and take all that back [TS]

  to the laserdisc where necessary but [TS]

  it's actually pretty seamless and so [TS]

  right now in the world we have a we have [TS]

  like water is a big sort of crisis [TS]

  Oh doctor and it's very difficult where [TS]

  we're trying to scale up water decent [TS]

  salination a technology but currently [TS]

  very costly it's very costly there's a [TS]

  we need to do a lot of real brain [TS]

  cranking on these technologies also [TS]

  energy generation through title action [TS]

  big you know it's like it's like we're [TS]

  kind of any such people are kind of the [TS]

  cusp of like a big take a giant leap in [TS]

  technology [TS]

  but I'm glad that we are we are trying [TS]

  to recreate the original Star Wars here [TS]

  we go with them their minds [TS]

  congratulations congratulations now [TS]

  candidate that guy you brought presents [TS]

  to a birthday party when people are [TS]

  starving and sit and boom is that so i [TS]

  had to me as anybody your face [TS]

  housewarming [TS]

  has anybody taken episodes negative 3 [TS]

  negative 2 negative 1 and reduce them to [TS]

  one watchable episode that makes sense [TS]

  are you actually asking me that question [TS]

  yes yes they have somebody took one two [TS]

  and three and no way to hear you know [TS]

  you know what's in from one pretty much [TS]

  the sword fight with Darth Maul that's [TS]

  it is a little bit at the beginning of [TS]

  landing on the planet but no there's no [TS]

  charge running around i have a guy who [TS]

  has become a friend of mine over the [TS]

  years was one of the legendary first [TS]

  people to do this the guy who's coming [TS]

  down as the phantom editor this guy Mike [TS]

  Nichols I've heard of this guy i think i [TS]

  think i was sat down in a hotel room at [TS]

  some point several years ago and forced [TS]

  to watch his edit his yeah Soph and his [TS]

  fam at it i think other one since then [TS]

  have taken the mantle he's not involved [TS]

  in that stuff anymore and other people [TS]

  are more enthused but especially because [TS]

  it's the second one the second one is [TS]

  pretty bad [TS]

  which is the one where they where they [TS]

  talked at great length about trade [TS]

  negotiations that all of them [TS]

  yeah yeah that you've been waiting for [TS]

  Star Wars for years the call comes up [TS]

  and you learn that there's some problems [TS]

  with trade negotiations and your dad has [TS]

  his own little cgi cherry sits in a but [TS]

  uh yeah like for example in his in his [TS]

  version of episode 2 and he's a [TS]

  wonderful commentary track that's very [TS]

  much worth watching [TS]

  he explains how what he had to go [TS]

  through this one scene to try and make [TS]

  it seem like I cup Amidala would ever [TS]

  have charger beings take over for in the [TS]

  Senate for her like why would you why [TS]

  would you make him a senator and so he [TS]

  does everything you cannot just cut the [TS]

  guy out but to make him take out enough [TS]

  of his lines that he seems like a [TS]

  plausible enough non idiot that she now [TS]

  doesn't seem like a dumbass stuff like [TS]

  that i have never seen [TS]

  Jar Jar Binks wow you mean that you [TS]

  never like seen those movies constantly [TS]

  have never seen a sharp base right I've [TS]

  never seen so I i saw the I saw the last [TS]

  one of the newest movies negative 3 [TS]

  negative 1 from Mighty One 2005 [TS]

  yeah i saw that one because it because [TS]

  it was hyped everyone because that was [TS]

  the one everybody was like it's finally [TS]

  good Johnny later it's it's bad in a [TS]

  different way that's acceptable and so I [TS]

  was like all right I'll go see him and [TS]

  none of it made any sense it was all [TS]

  gibberish but a lot of people announcing [TS]

  what's happening but there was no there [TS]

  was no just add writer was a charming so [TS]

  many he is very much diminished he's [TS]

  much more like a background just [TS]

  standing there looking very noble in his [TS]

  robes his ride much right that's right [TS]

  he walks through a scene or something [TS]

  when they land on course on i think yeah [TS]

  and yeah when that when they land he's [TS]

  in that big party with the blue face [TS]

  people [TS]

  yeah right okay so i have seen him but i [TS]

  have never I have no first-hand [TS]

  knowledge of him like shuckin and jivin [TS]

  probable man you really missed out and I [TS]

  you know and I know it's in my future I [TS]

  know one day I will watch it right but [TS]

  but I i managed to put it off this long [TS]

  i remember one of the people were camped [TS]

  out in front of the cinerama here [TS]

  yeah like some of camped out for seven [TS]

  days 10 days or maybe a month that was [TS]

  there were like three kids that started [TS]

  in tents outside of the theater like [TS]

  weeks ahead of time [TS]

  yeah and and then I remember like the [TS]

  the the lamentations uh the the you know [TS]

  the rule aiding my fans my face with my [TS]

  grandad and more in his younger than me [TS]

  he saw phantom menace I think he sighs [TS]

  least twice the first day three times a [TS]

  day came out and still you know you get [TS]

  that kind of what she doesn't know this [TS]

  but not Stockholm Syndrome but you get [TS]

  the kind of thing we like and this is [TS]

  good right [TS]

  I was really excited about this is good [TS]

  like when you go on vacation you're like [TS]

  oh my god what have we done [TS]

  why do we book this place and you know [TS]

  this is fun right they got what they [TS]

  don't have fun okay this is really good [TS]

  yeah yeah it's it's a city that weird [TS]

  phenomenon you no sense of you when you [TS]

  are in a situation with something like [TS]

  for instance I i was talking to a good [TS]

  friend the other day and i said i was [TS]

  talking about the movie the natural [TS]

  oh yeah wonderboy right you're talking [TS]

  about this on the Internet yeah [TS]

  wonderful and she said you know how do [TS]

  you remember that it's like what do you [TS]

  mean she said I mean that did that movie [TS]

  come out the eighties I saw it when it [TS]

  came out I was like you didn't idea what [TS]

  a horrible thing that it's the city [TS]

  you've never seen that yet your mat in [TS]

  the eighties since he clearly wasn't [TS]

  Secretary of State under grant was like [TS]

  you know you can see the natural other [TS]

  places that in the end up in the movie [TS]

  theater and she was like you've seen the [TS]

  natural more than once and I was like [TS]

  yeah of course i have seen the natural [TS]

  more than once I've seen the Godfather [TS]

  170 times uh yeah I've seen blade runner [TS]

  more than once I mean you'd see these [TS]

  movies more than once they are more than [TS]

  once movies and she was like huh [TS]

  not me and I said how many times you've [TS]

  seen here have you seen harry met sally [TS]

  she was like oh well that I was like [TS]

  yeah exactly right Harry Met Sally is [TS]

  one of those movies I've seen I was a I [TS]

  saw it the first time kind of under [TS]

  duress the second time i was like huh [TS]

  nothing else is on and then the third [TS]

  time I was like goods pretty good movie [TS]

  and then the fourth through 14th time I [TS]

  was like look localized to a certain [TS]

  time low gonna die alone me mean [TS]

  wonderboy but you think about people [TS]

  like and I'm guessing like us talking to [TS]

  somebody the other day about how they're [TS]

  showing a kid in a century movie and I [TS]

  was like oh my god like well yeah [TS]

  exactly but remember like a people would [TS]

  have said that about Caddyshack probably [TS]

  back like that is such a great LOL ok [TS]

  shack is there's like seven movies that [TS]

  it was like it's like seven unrelated [TS]

  movies you know what that's a really [TS]

  good point that mean i think this is not [TS]

  interesting how all the fillory stuff [TS]

  all the memory stuff was kind of a [TS]

  bolt-on even brought him back is there [TS]

  like this is the only a consistently [TS]

  funny part of this entire movie that [TS]

  movie is that movie is like [TS]

  if you made like to fletch movies if you [TS]

  and and like you had a couple of like [TS]

  was late seventies Bill Murray movies [TS]

  had some leftover animal house [TS]

  yeah you cut a bunch of scenes out of [TS]

  those movies and then all those scenes [TS]

  were on the floor of some room somewhere [TS]

  like let's put these together and make a [TS]

  movie like the first Rodney Dangerfield [TS]

  movie [TS]

  ya know that's a weird experience and [TS]

  because you know nerd stuff will not be [TS]

  nerd stuff or anything where you're a [TS]

  fan of something it's very difficult to [TS]

  translate especially increasingly like [TS]

  generationally where you know I there [TS]

  are points when I yeah yeah sometimes [TS]

  i'm just being a deliberate dumbass [TS]

  acting like I don't know who came [TS]

  Kardashians or whatever but honestly [TS]

  don't [TS]

  I think she had a sex tape and I think [TS]

  she's had TV shows I know she's famous [TS]

  and successful has a nap and stuff but [TS]

  not that's just one example there's so [TS]

  many things were like I can't identify [TS]

  imagine dragons [TS]

  oh I can't know there's just so many [TS]

  things were like and I'm not saying that [TS]

  from point of pride [TS]

  I think that somebody goes oh that's [TS]

  that's hojer 9000 so that's whole sure [TS]

  I've heard of hoosier or or what have [TS]

  you or I go well with the Fantasy Island [TS]

  band imagine islands or whatever [TS]

  Mikey you're a band and then but see I i [TS]

  I'm not that's just so not the circle [TS]

  then I mean I don't begrudge people who [TS]

  do you like it but they're saying I [TS]

  rolling over me going like i don't i [TS]

  don't really know anything about a [TS]

  matter no country they're from is the [TS]

  same way in some similar in some ways [TS]

  starts going like what you are telling [TS]

  me you've never seen stripes like why [TS]

  would I have seen stripes like I stripe [TS]

  six times in a month why would you not [TS]

  have seen it [TS]

  well I mean for them i can Adam Sandler [TS]

  movies what I'm saying [TS]

  so I was sitting with my with my [TS]

  campaign manager the other day and and [TS]

  defecating called and I was like oh look [TS]

  tough is calling dr. duffer for a little [TS]

  bit left a you know like a message [TS]

  before where peace [TS]

  you know we're talking about ways that [TS]

  that def can get involved in the [TS]

  campaign and I get off the phone and the [TS]

  camp my campaign manager is like 26 [TS]

  years old like all right well let's get [TS]

  back to these pieces of paper and that i [TS]

  saw some I saw something on his face and [TS]

  i was like he do you know who took my [TS]

  Kagan is [TS]

  and he was like no should I was like hmm [TS]

  dunno krist novoselic juice seems like [TS]

  no really should I in Seattle yeah and I [TS]

  was like yes he should know who these [TS]

  people are [TS]

  he's like okay so he Google's them and [TS]

  he's like Oh guns and roses like says it [TS]

  like are they still around will go just [TS]

  like like I would have said Herb Alpert [TS]

  and the left bank but but what trail oh [TS]

  that's pretty Lopez what weird tar but I [TS]

  had this amazing i had this amazing [TS]

  experience [TS]

  uh the end surface sort of like a [TS]

  corollary which is that i showed my [TS]

  daughter her first movie this weekend [TS]

  wow she had never seen a movie you did [TS]

  he pull the trigger pull the trigger and [TS]

  when I was like you know what let's [TS]

  watch a movie [TS]

  she was like I don't know she was pretty [TS]

  nervous about it because the movies that [TS]

  she had seen portions of it was pretty [TS]

  unsure about I was like it's going to be [TS]

  okay we'll watch this movie it'll be [TS]

  fine if it's if there's anything about [TS]

  it you don't like we don't have to watch [TS]

  it [TS]

  yeah she's like all right so we watch [TS]

  Mary Poppins who Adam and during the and [TS]

  this is the thing i don't remember what [TS]

  it was like to be four but during the [TS]

  part where the kids get lost in London [TS]

  because they run away from the the evil [TS]

  bankers the scene lasts 45 seconds but [TS]

  they are lost for a minute there is a [TS]

  clamor of people and she was like I [TS]

  don't like this movie [TS]

  this is an hour and a half into a [TS]

  two-and-a-half hour long movie but [TS]

  generally that fight a really long movie [TS]

  it's really long and I said okay we [TS]

  don't we can stop she's like no it's [TS]

  okay i can watch it and she watched it [TS]

  all the way to the end and after she [TS]

  went to bed I was thinking about Mary [TS]

  Poppins and Mary Poppins is you know [TS]

  it's referencing a time 100 years ago [TS]

  like more than 100 years ago right it's [TS]

  it takes place in 1910 um it was made in [TS]

  nineteen the early sixties so it was [TS]

  made before i was born so Mary Poppins [TS]

  has been there my entire life when I [TS]

  watched it for the first time there were [TS]

  still people in my own family who had [TS]

  been alive in 1910 home and yes right [TS]

  there were gonna sign it [TS]

  I can I great-uncle and great-aunt a [TS]

  were were like 14 15 years old really in [TS]

  1910 I had to grandparents alive that [TS]

  there were alive at 1910 and 19 1901 i [TS]

  think in 1903 yeah Mike I mean my [TS]

  grandmother was born in 1890 my [TS]

  step-grandfather was born 85c yeah well [TS]

  so so we're certainly feel extremely [TS]

  holes so these so now now my kid is [TS]

  watching this movie and and even even [TS]

  the cultural and you're like two orders [TS]

  or three orders away from the original [TS]

  company must be so weird the movie might [TS]

  seem so strange [TS]

  well it is it's very strange and and you [TS]

  know it was cool about the sixties was [TS]

  that there was that there was that [TS]

  nostalgia for the twenties there was a [TS]

  kind of like I don't know kind of their [TS]

  an element of nostalgia where those [TS]

  things were fashionable again remember [TS]

  all the ice cream parlors where people [TS]

  were wearing straw boaters sure like a [TS]

  thoroughly modern millie amino it was in [TS]

  movies and absolutely yeah it was it was [TS]

  a bit something a Winchester Cathedral [TS]

  kind of song and we like as kids we were [TS]

  we were connected to it by people that [TS]

  were in it felt like the it felt like a [TS]

  reasonable distant past but also i mean [TS]

  i was i probably saw I probably saw [TS]

  let's say I saw Mary Poppins for the [TS]

  first time when I was the same age that [TS]

  she is right so that would have been [TS]

  1972 so the movie was already ten years [TS]

  soul and and yet what is fascinating is [TS]

  that both dick van dyke and julie [TS]

  andrews are still alive right do you are [TS]

  totally we are still in their era it is [TS]

  still that the the time of that and like [TS]

  it was astonishing to me watching that [TS]

  movie that first of all that Julie [TS]

  Andrews wasn't made Queen of the [TS]

  Universe and I think she probably hell [TS]

  of a run there for awhile i did have a [TS]

  good run but like even still she should [TS]

  be queen of the universe and Dick Van [TS]

  Dyke for all effort as bad as that [TS]

  accent he does is every other aspect of [TS]

  his performance piece o threw himself [TS]

  into everything that he does yeah [TS]

  yep full-on full on kevin's mom um and [TS]

  this but so all of this like this [TS]

  churning kind of cultural goulash of [TS]

  like she is as a minute i hate to play [TS]

  that game but like she's as far away [TS]

  from one this movie was made as this [TS]

  movie was from the time that it is about [TS]

  free rides like I'm obsessed by this [TS]

  game i'm gonna stop by this and and so [TS]

  but that little bit of connectedness [TS]

  like the it i guess it the the [TS]

  surprising thing in the fun thing is [TS]

  that some of those like Mary Poppins [TS]

  feels eternal in a way that Ace Ventura [TS]

  pet detective killed the eternal but I [TS]

  don't know if I'm qualified to save and [TS]

  now I know I know what you mean and it's [TS]

  funny because I mean some things that [TS]

  were considered classic movies when we [TS]

  were kids have not H that well devised I [TS]

  have to say at least in my household we [TS]

  can still watch The Wizard of Oz and [TS]

  it's still a lot of fun it's old-timey [TS]

  but I don't think it's any more dated [TS]

  then a lot of comedies of the [TS]

  mid-eighties there's a lot a lot of [TS]

  comedies in the eighties that feel like [TS]

  they're from like another millennium is [TS]

  the technical [TS]

  I was on tonight we played just called [TS]

  the game i need a better than I've been [TS]

  obsessed with this game for a very long [TS]

  time going like what's this many years [TS]

  since the police when i said with the [TS]

  game isn't that when you drop a some [TS]

  people off on a remote island and then [TS]

  hunt them the deadliest game up are you [TS]

  so this isn't the deadliest game this is [TS]

  a difference is a less deadly games in [TS]

  the old vs game i was looking I follow [TS]

  this website I want look at cars tumblr [TS]

  called The Impossible cool and it's just [TS]

  photos of people looking cool like [TS]

  celebrities in this case of the photo [TS]

  comes up I think I'll on saturday the [TS]

  other day this picture of BB King [TS]

  looking really cool onstage got backup [TS]

  singers its kind of guitar you can tell [TS]

  from the cut of his suit it's really old [TS]

  and it says BB king los angeles 1970 and [TS]

  I had to stop and do the math and get a [TS]

  drink and I said to my wife this is BB [TS]

  king in 1970 I went to see bikini I [TS]

  looked into some tickets to see be king [TS]

  in 1986 so the year after i graduated [TS]

  from high school I want to see him and I [TS]

  remember we tried to get we hung up by [TS]

  the stage door on the off chance that he [TS]

  might come out and the stage manager [TS]

  came out like a you know mr. Kings up a [TS]

  pretty old guys pretend he's not gonna [TS]

  come out tonight but will all tell me [TS]

  said hi as well that's cool that's cool [TS]

  whatever but no made a point of saying [TS]

  you know he's an old guy guy 1986 yeah [TS]

  so from this photo of him in basically [TS]

  like the sixties cut suit to me seeing [TS]

  him in 1986 that was 16 years [TS]

  yeah i saw BB king live 29 years ago I [TS]

  mean still alive [TS]

  that's the plan [TS]

  testify [TS]

  man that's so messed up [TS]