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00:00:29 ◼ ► hello hi John hi Merlin has gone well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/29">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► I'm finding my way back to you Merlin I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/36">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► know the frankie valli version of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► best mhm it inside like cover right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► I like the way as you started to hum it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► its you started humming and then sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► the trumpets came in and then we're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► of doing a little bit of marching band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► mmm tusk don't get to do 250 to do i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/57">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► besides you to play I you know it's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► to get to have fun with that they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► seems like that is one of the that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► like the unifying characteristic of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/79">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► marching bands isn't it fun is it is fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► like in stage band you know we played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► standards and we played kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► light fusion but mostly I was it was we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► did a terrible version of Night Train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► oh I was uh it was pretty abysmal mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► I'm own and my dream that someone Joey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► what is that I don't think that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► bird house the 1i train now one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/106">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► nice things about marching bands you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► that can detect that like reverb ease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► snares I love 3i love all the drums all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► the great drums i love the glockenspiel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/120">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► I like when I we live kinda near high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► school and I love hearing that it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/123">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► Bingbing i have a you know uh my good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► good friend Maria was the clock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► Peele player in the marching band i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► glockenspiel around our i think a jam by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/136">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► going around again I was thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/142">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► reverb the other day as you do and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/147">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► thinking about I was thinking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► contemporary pop music almost all has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/153">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► everything we noticed this yeah i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► i think i know what you mean especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/163">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► the kind of like and again I will at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► this point just see myself out I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/166">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► know the name is a lot of bands but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► middle-of-the-road emo ish kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/171">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► then it is very bombastic very big no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► I mean like I think I know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/179">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► talking about though there's a i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► don't know maybe I think I know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► it's just sounds big big big and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/184">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► course be extinguished all the way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/185">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► yeah it was thinking about in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► of the fact that like songwriting now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/191">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► for the most part like where we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► talked about this before where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/199">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► we're like yellow has great songwriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/200">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► songwriting from the production right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► mean this is the think somebody asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► the other day like what do you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► Donovan I was like well you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/210">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► production of them is as important as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► the as the song itself right like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/217">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► hurdy gurdy man is a sound as much as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/221">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► yeah they got a kind of spooky feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/226">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► to houki and groove Ian like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► stony droney but but in a way that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/234">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► you do if you take any of those great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/239">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► cat stevens singles which are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► sounding but then you could also just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► we've seen innumerable times you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► play them with a hat with your baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► hat on the ground in front of a sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► stadium on a four string acoustic guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► and the song still translates who wears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► hurdy gurdy man something would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/257">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► something would be lost to cover it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► because the tone anyway so as I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► about contemporary pop music and listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► to the song writing and I just AM like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► that i don't even hear the song really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► i'm not sure how you would even cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► this song because the song is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► less important now than the sound and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► all these big big big radio hits now are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► just full of this epic sounding swelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/281">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► chanting big drums lots of like hey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► stuff you know like really and if i were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► a young person and this was my contempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► very music i would really be under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► impression that my emotions were on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► you know my emotions were very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► you know what I mean right yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► yeah there's there's no there's no sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► of like the way the motown a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► ambiguity to a lot of it right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► it's not personal right it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► like all this song is about me and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► you know and my broken hardness and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► god it's just me and the singer I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► listening in this to this radio that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► I'm coming in on on on on pirate radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► from Mexico and you know and now it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► feels like a like every song is so epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/329">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► and the and so as a as a kid you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► listening to this music you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► that's my tune and so it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► important song and I must be a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/342">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► yeah it's a knife and I and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► attributed to the to the use of this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► huge reverb on everything this like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/350">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► and you just feel like wow that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► echoing off the back of the stadium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► I think of it i think i think i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/359">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► what you mean and but the nearest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► analogy from when I was younger I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► probably be disco where I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► I take a song like KC and the Sunshine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► Band like they had some really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► disco like party songs but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► kind of just a groove a lot of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► production and you know getting the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► drums and that all the percussion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► all of the base you know way high and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► something may be seen out to be so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► sounds good in a club but I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► it's similar in that way where the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► it sounds is a huge part of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► the song is right the way the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► sounds is the song but like the disco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► stuff the biggest like the the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/401">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► that in the biggest space that intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► to convey was a club right like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► listening that stuff and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► yeah I'm feeling the base and i'm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► dance floor and i'm in a club and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► Saturday night that was the biggest that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► was as big as the space would be and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► even still it could contain like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/422">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► dancing with someone else you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► was it was still in the realm of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► personal but like these tunes now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► the space that they are trying to convey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► is like we are marching through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► desert waving giant red banners we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/439">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► yeah we are an army on the move we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► we are crossing the steps and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► coming into Hungary it like it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/450">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► with my co adds so much huger sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► and there is in there at least to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► ears doesn't feel like there's any space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► in there to be like I'm a person and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► person i like is a is across the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► it's much more like I'm in this army and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► we're moving together forward to like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► do something ambiguous you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► mean I think the taylor swift lyrics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► still to the effect of like haters gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► hate but but it feels like it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► haters are gonna hate in a giant giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► right crystal but cathedral type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/486">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► yeah you know I'm trying to I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► to think about this though because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► know more about like how this stuff it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/497">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► made an idea but i have a you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► not going to say grudging admiration I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► developed a kind of admiration for pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► culture products even if it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► something that I'm i really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► sometimes I hear something like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► her name is a pee ! i'll hear one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► the hair pink tune and like that Reddick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► raise your glass song it's it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/519">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► yeah and it's but it has that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► that I think that has a feeling you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► talking about were like it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► such a rallying cry and I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/528">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► oh alright brown crab are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► there's a lot of those songs were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/535">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► it you know it really it's and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► sound so derogatory don't mean because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► you know to each his own and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► successful it but yeah it does really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/542">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► feel like it really more more is is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► to this is the same thing people been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► saying since the thirties probably he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/549">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► not even used to live in a megaphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► what is that a microphone in my day we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► have to sing into a cup that's to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► Charlie but i think that i think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► is something to it in the sense that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► lot of covers that you see of modern pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/566">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► tunes the cover really seeks to reinvent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/570">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► the tune right if you see somebody do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► cover of a modern pop tune it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► always like us they they take it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► take a really hyped up big stadium tune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/580">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► and they can they play a sad acoustic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► guitar slow we be cover of it okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► yeah it kind of arcade fire it yet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► have because they have to because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► isn't a way to do a straight cover of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► right in order to do a straight cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► you would need 18 people in your band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► and that seems a little antiquated to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► like even back to what 15 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► to the unplugged era where like Nirvana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/606">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► doing meat puppets covers in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► that they were doing them under rana CLE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► and like but also you like really gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► reinterpreting them significantly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► yeah yeah and and but but like the tunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► had the tunes had a chord structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► right they weren't just like a drum loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► and a and a and just tons and tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► reverb yeah it's a it's a it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/631">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► interesting evolution and I find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► driving along listening to pop music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► feeling these big feeling this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► epics well that you might that I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/640">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► mhm right yeah uh but but the Scorpions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/648">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► you know haha even them at their biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/653">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► emotional swell it was he was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/659">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► contained somewhat right it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► that was no I'm like yo and and year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/665">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► you're imagining yourself in within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► within that song and thinking like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► think a lot of metal the way you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► meant to imagine yourself in it was as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► member of the band rather than like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► that's really interesting you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► I mean like hoedown music you weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► meant to imagine yourself in the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► you were meant to the music was was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► capturing like who you were that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► could use the song personally in sin in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/696">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► metal you were meant to imagine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► circumstances i am the guitarist in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► band i'm singing this song and maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► person the song is about is in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► uh-huh and I'm singing it to them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► like that's the level of triumph and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/714">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► I feel like we've now that evolution has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► continued and it's like the only way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► can put yourself into a song now is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► the star as the as the pop star who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► triumphed over all and in case something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/730">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► like Taylor Swift her songs which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► think are often things just extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► catchy and well done i'm not the male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► fan that some of my friends are but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/742">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► really enjoy it every time I hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► shake it off so long i think that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/745">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► that's a really really great Explorer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► jam it into jam yeah but in her case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► like I think you are supposed place is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► gonna get so like first your philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► class I think you really are supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► put yourself in her position she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► shoes she's in Taylors shoes she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► singing a song about her life and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► breakup I think more often than not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► that's that supposed to have residents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► with you both on the level of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► empathizing with taylor swift but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► feeling that that same feeling yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/773">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► yeah that maybe one day if you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► know if you play your cards right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► you two will have the moment you you too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► will be able to stand up on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► stage be the star and shake it off shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/786">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► off the haters but you know having any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► kind of a message of empowerment in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► song is is gonna resonate with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► i think you know what I mean whereas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► scorpions they got a guy with forks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► his eyes you know that's a tough get was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► swollen when you think recover remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/802">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► walk quacks help that solo so what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/807">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► you know I i saw the Scorpions several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► times during the worldwide live you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/816">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► a we get this wrong every every year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► M we may well with the guitar players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► mm-hmm go ahead do this rocket is I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► dubis rocket is that his name do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/829">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► uh yeah yeah he he looked at me right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/840">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► yeah it's probably a wolf gang or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► class or a it's a chancre was a chancre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► was no it wasn't the shake its not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► important to the story it was Matthias [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► yes and and he and I had a moment boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► I'm sure he had 40 of those moments that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/859">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► night really stuck with me i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► wanted to always wanted a guitar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► oh yeah he played like am like a context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► a modified explorer yeah or v EF knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► that explore there was a it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/875">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► chancre was the other shanker that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► the it was the young single letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► shanker shaker filled that are single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► yeah yeah you got to get the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► shanker from michael Shank Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► Schenker any little girl shanker well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► you got client a client shanker have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► ever seen a have you ever seen Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► Schenker the mile sugar group msg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► mhm i am and i don't think i can name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► well he is a phenomenal guitar player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► and and the the songs maybe and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► it that's a good example of the metal a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/908">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► corollary to this conversation which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► that the songs are less important than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► the fluidity the fluidity of his he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/914">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► recording like leader seventies early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► and mid eighties he's still touring I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► wow I saw him at a barbecue restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/924">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► in tacoma washington where every 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/927">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► minutes all of the waitresses suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► jumped up on the tables and dance to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► song and in short shorts and then got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► down and started waiting tables again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/941">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► that doesn't seem hygienic John it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/942">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► it I i was reminded of i remind i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/951">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► reminded that the rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► continues puttering along and even as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/957">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► we hear in our in our internet tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► like to think that we are somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► but sometimes it's useful to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/966">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► can i get an update from you we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/967">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► done an update with from you in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► yeah so you you're still mostly driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► no I have a I have so i have a jetta put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► the jetta first of all the jetta is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/979">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► ridiculous because it is a stud black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► jetta and looks like it's ridiculous 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/985">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► called they want their weapons come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► exactly right I feel like everybody add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► one we had one everybody had one I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► like every time I step out of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► the pic the theme from friends should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► play we have a jetta wagon so don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► yeah no identity damn and and so but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► tabs expired recently and uh in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► get the tabs renewed I have to get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► emissions test so then for a while i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► driving a sort of a borrowed passat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► wagon little bit little bit bigger girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► that was our aspirational mom and dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► SOT SOT was nice nice car but now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► gone again that's been taken away so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► today i am driving the truck yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► ok so i ask because when you're riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► around I know historically it has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► been your habit to just listen to music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► as background stuff but like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► in your repose and you're putting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► do you turn on the radio and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► turn on the radio what you listen to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► that isn't an interesting question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► because I think I think that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► yeah you know I i always used to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► to sort of all these and watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► watching what the fight what what met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► the criteria of all these change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► was really interesting to me you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► used to be like rockin Robin bop-bop-bop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► rockin Robin and then pretty soon it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► like women I just hear black hole sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► but with that but yes the first change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► was like when you started here crosby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► Stills and Nash you're like is that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► Goldie is that what we're calling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► now I thought that was a classic rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► and now for sure it's like Tom Petty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► suddenly there's a shift in the last 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► years where it used to be like when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► were coming up you have like the AOR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► stations that were playing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► whatever current and classic rock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► know Julian classic rock but but then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► some point you know you a question that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► the pop stations what I would then call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► a top-40 station and then at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► we've talked about kait here in town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► there's there are a lot of stations that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► are like the best of the best of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► seventies eighties nineties in the 2,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► unobjectionable music a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► well yeah and that that's what's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► crazy to me is that all that music used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► to mean so much within the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► its of its genre i will at the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► it's like I'd like to say lobsters don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► think of themselves primarily as food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► and in this case fans of Big Chill and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► post picture music have a very strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► association with like there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► specificity to like a witch jackson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► browne record you like that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► really old timey but you know which cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► stevens which van morrison records like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► they aren't those are not oldies those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► are like works of art you know that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► you wouldn't think of it as just getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► tossed into the same pile based on age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► that still seems very strange and i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► to say somewhat artificial I get why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► they do it demographically but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► still strange somebody who love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► music and see the distinction between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► all these different things that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► know i don't i'm not i'm not mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► it but I do think it's interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► we mainly do it based on age with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► well we we always did but like recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► I have noticed within the dance music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► radio a slot that craft works on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► data is great he has a lot of that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► is now I mean back and i think that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► is happening in rock music too and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► folk music right there it gets divorced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► from context increasingly and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► for a while I was just as all of us old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► people are uh I was freaked out by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► divorcing it from context you could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► next to a talking head song on the radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► it didn't make any sense they were from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► I don't understand it right right I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► and then I realized like to the ear of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► person who didn't come up knowing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► those were different universes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► sound great together and at time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► something we've talked about this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► much better stay CDC and def leppard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► the am not lying stuff or any of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► stuff even looking at mr. do it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► sounds so much rougher at the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► now with with time you got these are pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► song yeah there's a problem but i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► I was in a i was in a shot the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► and they were playing what could only be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► called like dance music mix dance music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► mix jam and every tune had like Smith's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► but they were completely they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► completely agnostic about a like era so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► so they were playing like lift freak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► then right into some kind of nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► British a house music and right into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► some very contemporary DJ based jams and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► then back to now Rogers and it it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► was a seamless mix the only unifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► characteristic was that it had this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► disco dance beat right and I realized oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► sure if if I were 20 that would that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► what I would be listening for and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► necessarily care that one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► things was the pioneer of that and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► of them was a was later iteration one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► them is a modern iteration it's all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► as onra something how many people could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► identify whether a given Bing Crosby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► songs from the twenties thirties forties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► or fifties 22 lot of people's ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► I bet sounds virtually identical me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► fifties maybe a little bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► yeah you know hearing hearing like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► old-timey song that sounds low fidelity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► in that case but but here that's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► sequence of what I'm just gonna get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► satellite radio and the demographics I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► don't know how this works but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► guessing exactly like give me the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► of music people fold clothes to it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► give me you know i want some chill Jam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► it's like all right well let's put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► alright well what's the chill Jam uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► know tubular bells sure that's chill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► that's pretty chill Jam shielded else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► you know music for airports uh the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► you know talk talk's the color of spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► that's a chill chill jams on that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► pretty soon you're into like well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► about this latest a this latest track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► from like Ibiza around I'm sorry maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► that he betta and pretty soon you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► children mix and it's also like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► pandora thing I think a lot of places do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► like a pandora thing where you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► a station i discovered it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► dark art I don't use pandora as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► I used to but I discovered it's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► dark art to pick the right band to base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► okay i'm gonna like my station but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► reasonable what would place on the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► oh you know a lot of don't yell at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► music haha right like what's the what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► the one thing that came up on a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► winter stationed we were like what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► don't know it i have to go look it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► but i think it was a lot of like men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► with gentleman with beards kind of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► yeah the hog butcher music but on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► you know for example like I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1438">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► old old country music and and and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► the thing is if you go in this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► boring if you go in and make a station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► based on Hank Williams you end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► all kinds of nonsense i don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► but if you go to based on Hank Williams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► all you get lots songs about regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► wife-beating but now you get a lot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► contemporary stuff but if you go in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► make one based on Hanks know I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► everywhere man guy like you get all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► this amazing stuff that's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► contemporary to his time like you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► get some old Conway Twitty and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► like that but it's mostly pre cosmic for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► the college country politan or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► it's got a pre mid sixties music and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► seems much more cohesive what's funny is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► still do this but it used to be i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► it was on pandora is on one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► services you can go in and it you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► flip a card in your iOS app and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► show you why it picked that for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► oh never seen this no i don't use any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► these programs I i had like a course i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► had a guided by voices station and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► because you know you we thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► liked this song because it includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► major chorus versus a fast be distorted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► guitars and lyrics about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► doesn't such beer or whatever really but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► they've got a reason they can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► when they choose to pull back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► curtain they can actually show you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► they calculated that this would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► have you ever really studied the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► of the Scorpions record animal magnetism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► that the chewing gum in the limousine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► no that's that's the that's the one both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► the Lord the dog dog yeah it really has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► to have inspired the spinal tap smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► the glove smell the glove it really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► like so it's haven't thought about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► years i'm up oh my god i don't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► fast forward fast forward 40 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► that's like that doesn't really stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► lets them off with the chicken just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► my own purposes what's the word that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► that's that's a scorpion woman right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► that you know might be there so so where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► is he on his right here in the eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► yeah I love dr i love drive is a guy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► go search for love dr it's a guy in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► three-piece suit and a woman with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► dress pulled aside and it's like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► got his hand into chewing gum by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► oh the chewing gum on the boob look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► that we should have time an animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► magnetism know there's something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► special going on here a lot of lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► lot of good James you know this corpse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► like a lot of the best metal bands right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► they they they made the live record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► that's a lie i have to have to say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► all of our listeners that have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► listened to the Scorpions the worldwide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► live album is a great introduction Jenna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► just as Judas Priest unleashed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► introduction to judas priest because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► these are live records in name only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► there was just gonna say i wasn't gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► look over to like kiss alive those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► those are three like the tent pole and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► how you love kiss three temple albums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► that were really live albums not live at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► all but they said but if there's crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► noise and it makes you feel really epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► it makes you feel like you're on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► with the band and the goat and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► person that you love the most is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► in the in the room and you are you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► playing your metal solo and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► looking at you and saying is never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► should have left you would try to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► the things that killed our love dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► community pride has been a walk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► is this really the hand now wow ok so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► I think this is probably a hypnosis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► oh ok what else is happening is a German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► it's the German and designers that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► did the peter gabriel records like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► the whack-a-doodle photography based I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► think they did maybe wish you were here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► maybe but anyway a lot of them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► whack-a-doodle photography based weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► album covers of the seventies were done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► by this the this couple guys in Germany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► I think you know screaming gasps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► anyway so we got what we have your half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► of the money we describe this there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► beach is that we see that the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► thing that we see is the back side of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► man in looks like tough skins walking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► a beach drinking beer with his hand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► I would call those are those lee jeans I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► don't recognize the mark i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► yes um I don't think they're tough skins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► maybe they are but they're but what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► interesting is they're brown colored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► jeans and that's that seems very ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► that seems a little French to me they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► you mean I can see a brown gene yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► certainly German or French there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► maybe they're like it's there's almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► run lola run field to those jeans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► he's drinking a beer yeah he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► he's got one is left hand in his back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► pocket it appears to be sunset even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► though he has the brightness of 1120 am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► shining on his ass right yeah he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► there is some unused there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► where's that light coming from light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► well i will probably features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► feature this is the cover art first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► episode there's Doberman Pinscher who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► and then getting its ass the doberman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► pincher is staring at his ass a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► inexplicably but then I kneeling in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► kind of i would people I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► describe it necessarily as a submission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► putting submissive posture because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► it's a submissive posture but she has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► she has a a look that could be described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► as defiant right or there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► little bit of this little defiance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► interface but their general for shameful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► there's a blonde woman in high waisted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► handkerchief blouse tucked in and she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► kneeling looking up at him and it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► it with the look that I would describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► as not admiring but certainly waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► for the next wed waiting for a signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► let's let's call them waiting forcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► you to think that this would you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► yeah i mean if it was just her weird but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► the fact that the dogs and turn adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► well she's looking up at him and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► Dobermans just looking straight at his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► pants that's animal management and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► so I guess my question is and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► so this was the question i had when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► was when i was 11 or or 12 is his fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► alright she's not looking at his fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► area but maybe the dog is maybe the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► is looking at is at his unzipped fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► she seems to just like studiously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► avoiding it right she's making eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► contact up here right right right she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► looking she's looking at the she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► looking at his meat beard yeah and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► at his underwear area but the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► definitely is looking at his underwear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► I've reached a point in life where so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► much I you know I call it sky like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► dad engineering stage of life we mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► think about how something that made how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► at all haha i look at this and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► this is what this was probably mercury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► it was it was a major label that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► were on and you know there were meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► where somebody set aside three to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► other designs and said this is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► we should go with I'm yeah yeah well i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► pretty sure that I'm pretty sure it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► it this is the inspiration for smell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► glove and also i bet you there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► somebody in the room that was like come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► no this is terrible but you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► the seventies there were a lot worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► like how do you feel about the album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► cover for those that Eric Clapton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► supergroup group that had the oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► traffic traffic will know it was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► traffic it was on there is derek and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► dominos with Layla don't want that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► prepubescent girl on the cover right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► yeah yeah but it was traffic huh was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► traffic i want to say it's traffic i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► afterward just who was at the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► that said I love listening to john and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► Merlin look at the internet one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► what happened on in Berlin looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► the internet i'm not you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► just stop looking at the internet i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► not even gonna look at it anymore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► don't even care i see the last thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► fight if I can't tell you the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► Eric Clapton's dumb super group that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► then I don't deserve to talk about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► I'm just gonna sit here and talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► how these gummy sold shoes that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► wearing seem to pick up hair everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► I get that with mine too and I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► where is all this hair I like his hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► just on the ground everywhere I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► hasn't always been there is what really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► noticing this now is the earth carpeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► with hair in a way that I you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► work on Isolde choose to to fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► comprehend conditions we are yet we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► an area rug in one room that we all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► it's a the the way the fibers work so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► like pretty much all the time in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2000">TS</a>]
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00:36:08 ◼ ► accents of like a horrible German accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2168">TS</a>]
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00:36:16 ◼ ► yeah there's no you never have it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► never know fully like how much Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► Odenkirk is conscious of the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2181">TS</a>]
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00:40:27 ◼ ► the more I see other people running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2427">TS</a>]
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00:40:59 ◼ ► reasoned from the very beginning you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2459">TS</a>]
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00:41:12 ◼ ► yeah it is it's a good thing but it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► it goes it goes against expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► everybody in the everybody that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► has been doing this for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► everyone that's kind of site because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► only people that know that there's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► a seattle city council election coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► there's only 500 people in all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► Seattle that even know it's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► right because who follows who follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► local elections six to nine months out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► what else cranky didn't say that i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► and so so once the initial announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► kind of went around and everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► like wow that's cool people immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► want desperately to forget about it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► several months and and they're feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► about it is like well i'll look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► again when it's closer to the election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► so the only people that are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► invested in it and I said to stay at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► this stage are people better that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► considering either their profession or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► there or there you know application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► so I'm in a lot of conversations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► people who talk to a lot of candidates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► and they all have this expectation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► like well what's your one issue what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► the thing they got you mad that made you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► want to run for office and I keep saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► I think that the foot I think the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► premise that the only people that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► for office are people who got mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► one issue is what a horrible framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► device but that's the thing that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► feel i feel like that's a flawed premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► and they look at me with a kind of look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► that is like either you can hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► gears turning and they're like okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► you're the you're the intellectual and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► I'm like well I'm just somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► believes in democracy and I feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► your city council is always populated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► people who got mad at the dog catcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► and so they had then they ran for dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► catcher and then they were the angry dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► catcher who was mad at City Hall about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► about the dog catching and then they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► elected to City Hall then you have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► you have a city council is populated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► by people that are mad and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► have a very broad sense of how things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► work but they they were able to they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► were able to yell about the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► that they're mad about and get several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► thousand people to say like yeah that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► people who agreed that was the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► that he mad about and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► sudden you know that's it that's who we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► sent to public office right the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► that are like I don't believe that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► that the schools should be teaching sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► education and that's why I'm running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► local representative well and it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► me think nothing about comic books but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► it makes me think a little bit like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► know we've already got a Batman there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► experience with crime and decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► become a crime fighter i would not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► every person serving in the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► department to think that there Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► you don't mean like there should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► something beyond and like revenge which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► is what you're describing what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► describing in some ways is having a chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► on your shoulder it isn't just that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► oh my kid didn't get health care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► you're talking about something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► like basically i think what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► describing is someone who has decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► turn a personal grudge into a career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► well and then at some point along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► way a person sidles up to them and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► say hey you know this thing about dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► catchers that you're so mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► here's how dog catchers actually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► like you're saying right and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► person has a choice either recant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► learn about things or cynically smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► yelling about dog catchers is what got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► me elected and so now that i know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► i'm still going to yell about dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► catchers because that still resonates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► with people and I think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► happens more often than not it's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► get these its way to get politicians who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► are like alright well just between us we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► know how things work but I'm gonna walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► out there on the big stage and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► talking about a talking in these terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► that I know animates an audience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► that's infuriating and it has to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► it's a certain amount of misdirection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► I'm not lying in this direction to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► it around to that point that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► test well for example well in and and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► a certain point everybody wants a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► everybody wants to hear solutions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► well solutions are complicated and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► time you apply every time you pass a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► law that that you hope solve this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► it creates for new potential problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► right it's just like you can't if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► you look at the history if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► our history and you think like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► let's talk about some laws that solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► some problems when you can see quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► few that have but you can also see tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► and tons of laws that like prohibition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► solve the problem created 50 new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► problems right and there are lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► examples but lesser only because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► are less ridiculous but they created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► problem upon problem so I'm I'm learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► that too i'm going to meetings where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► people are pounding on desks and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► we have a housing crisis and we do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► a housing crisis and then they say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► here's the solution and I go wow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► whoa i'm close the file on that one um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► that's really interesting because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► housing crisis is is a you know is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► multi-tenant rolled animal and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► doesn't make it 10 here's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► then there's a there's a separate part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► of the political class that understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► those problems are multi ten-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► animals and they are the like the Rye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► incremental lists who say well there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► no if there are no easy solutions and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► we just have to like double down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► unimaginative small-scale incremental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► little-little process-based revisions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► current policy so like a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► politicians approach exactly and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► get either demagogues or you get a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► get people that are like fully vested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► the process and don't have they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► believe that imagination can work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► somewhere between those two places we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► were were in this strange world where no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► progress really happens but we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► lot of people in public office that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► talking about we need to support Israel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► because that's what Jesus wants our why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► do you know like there are there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► thousand thousand examples even on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► liberal side and so I you know I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► feel like stepping into that arena and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► being unwilling to speak exclusively in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► bullet points but also being unwilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► to get chastised over and over for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► having to having to adventurous a idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► kit for you know like i have started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► seriously talk about gondolas here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► people who know about that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► and there are a lot of transit people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► who are really really smart and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► them are like haha gondolas it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► really great idea we have done some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► studies on them but the problem is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► you could never get it's the voters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► go along with it with a big dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► project like that and my reply to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► is like imagine the people sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► the room the first time someone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► failed a drawing of the space needle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► that they intended to build and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► here's the here's a tower we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► build and people look at it and go what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► what good is it it's good for going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► oh it will be why would we build this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► uh I mean can you picture the scene i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► thinking about exactly what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► it's like we can't even have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► conversation because that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► yeah right but sort of any we're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► I mean it's like eating a plate of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► mashed potatoes and calling it a college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► and yet they built the space needle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► right and and what when I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► that you know you think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► interstate highway system in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► interstate highway system was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► like the interstate roads and defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► escape routes highway system you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► like a big part of of the justification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► for building the interstates was that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► would enable us to move troops around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► faster in case America was invaded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► the Russians as a second reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► made the internet really and and also if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► we had an well if there was a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► of a warning from the Civil Defence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► horns we could get in our 57 Chevys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► drive out of the city and escape the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► nuclear nuclear attack that was coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► right like that was part of how we sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► what ended up being a 400 billion dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► nationwide project like oh you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► able to get out of the town to escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► the bombs and also we can move troops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► around and also it'll be great on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► Saturday afternoons you can get out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► that night and nothing that like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► would become the backbone of how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► built the economy with trucking or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► how it opened up you know like he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► first like practical travel around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► United States by middle-class people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► mean think about that think about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► is there anyone in America today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► listening to this program that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► interstate highway and and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► what it's for her and to build those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► things we tore down tens of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► neighborhoods and so when people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► like well you know there's no way we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► muster the collective will to to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► moving away from a fossil fuel based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► economy for instance it's like are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► it's happening it's happening anyway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► so the question is how do you get ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3115">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► instead of doing it accidentally or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► by happenstance and in seattle it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► gondolas would gondolas sound like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► ridiculous idea right they sound like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► joke idea that a day that the weird rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► candidate came up it comes out that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► and shut that Seattle is is a city built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► on seven hills right we're basically an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► alpine resort in summer and we keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► talking about bike lanes we keep talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► about all these methods of moving people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► around and in in that conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► there's never any acknowledgement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► that everywhere you would want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► involves going up a huge fucking Hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► and so it's like we need to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► well okay but the only people that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► ride bikes in seattle are like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► athletes and if you if you go down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► Portland Oregon which is largely a flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► City you see people riding their bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► and they are in there you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► like dressed nicely they are peddling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► slowly they have a little basket with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► some bread and maybe a dog in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► they're peddling on there nice flat wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► streets to go from one flat place to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► next and in seattle if you are downtown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► and want to go to Capitol Hill which as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► quarter of a mile over you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► have to be dressed like your writing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► Tour de France and you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► gonna you're not gonna get on your bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► with your Sudan right up to Capitol Hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► for lunch and ride back down you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► be you would be drenched in sweat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► you haven't mentioned the weather let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► alone the rain so I do believe that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► should have bikes everywhere but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► there were a network of gone to lowes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► you can put your bike in the gondola [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► take the gondola up to the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► hill ride your bike around up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► ride your bike downhill which is fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► everybody likes that and then at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► when it's time to go home put your bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► on the gondola back up to the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► it's not crazy it's it just sounded it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► in a way it sounds too fun to be real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► right it sounds too fun little it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► whimsical it sounds whimsical until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► picture like oh let's imagine the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► and fifty years and we've got like trams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► running up in a funicular up this street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► and it doesn't have to be a fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► funicular it's a funicular the hop on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► the throw your bike on it it takes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► infrastructure its infrastructure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► that actually is aware that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► reflects the fact that this is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► hilly town but you but so I'm talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► professional people and I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► listen this sounds like a job sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► like a joke idea from the weird rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► candidate but listen I'm serious about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► I think it's a good idea and and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► I mean when it's their job in a way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► on the other hand like they struggle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► find reasons why it's a why it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► never are trying to find reasons why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► it's a bad idea they're always trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► find reasons why it can never happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► when you must you must to some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► let's be honest you the weird right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► candidate you must sound like a flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► well in the sense that to some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► you know you're gonna have like the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► we're just gonna be like how do i I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► why are you so are you actually saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► this seriously I mean should we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► where Dracula fans are right Fang should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► we should we all like you know get face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► tattoos anything else like that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► so outside the pale of what people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► of as a conventional approach to such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► boring and giant problem right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► well and and and and what I say to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► is 100 years ago in 1915 there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► still horse carts horse-drawn carts all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► over the streets of New York City and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► seattle and san francisco and i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► at that time there were all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► conventional wisdom was well there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► there have always been horses in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► city before meeting to scale up around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► horses sure the motor car is coming but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► how I mean how do you take the horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► away from the small independent farmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► unnecessarily disruptive to our existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► infrastructure because what we have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► works the horses are finally replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► them right it isn't that part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► like you get so stuck in this idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► kind of problem we're trying to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► that you don't even open up the door to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► look at--look at Chicago and Chicago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► revolutionized around the idea of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► having literal tons of horse shit they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► it changed the entire sanitation system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► yeah well and imagine the last person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► seattle to build a barn downtown to feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► and care for horses during the day right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► there was a last person who is like i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► investing in a horse care products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► candidates and had to listen to big barn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► right all right big stables like listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► stables are part of our economy horses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► how you know how is a poor man going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► make it into town he's gonna ride a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► horse and that's always going to be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► there was like my family's made money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► from owning this particular wooden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► structure for 65 right well and so 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► years later 1925 I mean not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► more it is it has completely switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► right to change it i utterly changed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► mean yet a different kind of problem but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► like I don't know I'm so enjoy enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► be able to fucking malcolm gladwell but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► like talk about improving quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► I mean just the stories you hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► what it was like to live in chicago new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► york london let me there was literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► well and so our contemporary equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► to that is people driving their own cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► right right people are bad at driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► you're not here if you like in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► platform you and I have been talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► about this since time began this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► driving is one of these these strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► things that seems simple enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► everybody believes that they are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► good at it if they haven't died yet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► must be great at it and yet it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► difficult to do well and and almost no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► one doesn't well so we've been living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► an era for a long time where everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► drives their own vehicle and it results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► incredible waste and inefficiency total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► gridlock and it is going away it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► away in our lifetimes and when driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► your own car around goes away it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► it's going to change the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► about about every aspect of the city and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► what's cool about it is that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► mean that cars are going away just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► human-piloted cars are going away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► I mean can be cars can be constructed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► without all this weight of safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► devices because they're all going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► controlled by GPS they'll never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► touch one another again they can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and battery-powered and quiet and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► can move smoothly around the city and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► all of a sudden you realize a gridlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► isn't because there are too many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► have seen the graphics for what it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► self-driving cars at an intersection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► you seem like what how insane in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► way it could be where they just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► zooming panning don't let you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► signs right you just you just need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► little bit of the kind of basic probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► chunking that your phone could do at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► this point just direct people into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► direct the cars into the right place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► so so you could quadruple the capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► of the roads and everybody moves like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► times faster like there is the the roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► aren't the problem the problem is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► people pilots right right and and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► coming really soon like and and if we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► not you know nobody else running for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► seattle city council is even heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► self-driving cars right there still how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► how many orders of magnitude exaggerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► is that it's not you're saying it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► it's not it's not a focus there is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► you know at the lettuce at the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► level of government there's still a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► of suspicions about technology right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► primarily a surveillance tool like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► cities are using it to to collect data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► and nobody wants in a privacy is is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► issue at the city level in a big way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► don't you know then that this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► question of like the cops were body cams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► well wait a minute does that mean when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► cop comes into my house and talk to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► in the middle of the night about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► crying child that that video is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► write it uploaded to the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► tomorrow you know there there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3713">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► understanding that the internet right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► now like we've been looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► internet since its inception as a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► of like won't be great one day when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► little TV and very few people even still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► are looking at the Internet in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► no no the internet is going to be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► about to explode in terms of usefulness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► as we use it to connect everything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► everything and when that happens the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► usefulness of everything will go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► because will be because we will talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► be talking about integrated systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► rather than these siloed inefficient at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► like work duplicating garbage piles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► you know at 1.i when I picture Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► Howie on his bike looking at is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► watch trying to get his coffee maker to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► work and he's like I downloaded for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► coffee maker apps to my new iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► it's not syncing up with my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► with my electric razor but he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► he's at the bleeding edge of other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► that is going to happen at a municipal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► scale right right because we're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► write on on the cusp of I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► happening right solar energy finally is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► penciling out I'll man the graphs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► this stuff are nuts and even contain i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► saw at you place the same graph i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► about amount that can be generated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► versus cost per unit generated ya and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► the last I guess 10 or 15 years it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► completely everything I thought I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► to me solar energy number 1 i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► growing up right Jimmy Carter well huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► number one soul energy is probably one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► of the greatest no-brainers we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► but very important number two it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► prohibitively expensive to do even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► like heat or water right when i was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► college you could you could get a water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► heater but it was very costly and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► today i'll try to find the graph we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► probably know I mean it's completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► bananas which you can do now 44 less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► well and and you know so we're so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► across the threshold ever uh where solar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► energy is it is as cheap as as other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► or were they come I mean comparable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► mean given there's no longer smell in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► here shine million things to say i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► interrupt but there's so much about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► what you trade off to get there and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► much you're willing just to get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► from your dumb idea of in order to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► the thing I need to do we replace a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► horse with a car everybody's a car with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► a rocket stop thinking about it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► start thinking about in terms of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► we're actually trying to accomplish stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► thinking of the internet is facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► start thinking about it as electricity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► and suddenly everything starts to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► and and I mean that will shut up after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► this but like I i really think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► one of our biggest problems is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► I mention you're facing is everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► likes to either think that somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► being practical or ideological that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► either have an axe to grind or there or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► there just honestly trying to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► right thing and you tell so much by in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► that case somebody like well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► great ideologically will just replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► everything with solar and then we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► just charge ten times as much that'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► great it's like now stop thinking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► these extreme ends of the spectrum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► quote-unquote actually works which is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► never turns out the way anybody expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► because we can only see it through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► lens looking backwards right open your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► mind up to what could happen in 25 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► rather than obsessing what didn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► in the last 60 years when I keep saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► that to people like the what we never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► what we always do is evolve our cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► in this game of whack-a-mole write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► guide builds a thing we're like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► that's a shitty thing we've got to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► the next guy from doing that and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► pass a law about this guy who built the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► thing and by the time the law gets past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► that was eight years ago and no one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► ever going to build that thing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► they're building something new that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► shitty in a different way and and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► keep saying to people is it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► hard to go 20 years in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► imagine what we want the city to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► like and then reverse engineer it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► we we do we do have this ability and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► we don't have to build everything out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► rummaging in the Box looking for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► more green tile we can look ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► say we are like the city is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► we are redesigning the grid right what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► is the grid mean we're we're shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► Seattle has really cheap electricity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► because we ship in this electricity from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► from our dams up in the mountains this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► the 20 years ago we thought of as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► salmon killing dams up there they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► given us cheap power for years but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► another technology that's coming online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► technology which it would enable us at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► municipal scale to put giant batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► that can soak up all that power soak up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► generating on the roofs of every home in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► the city store it efficiently and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► redistribute that power at night when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► the Sun has gone down and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► wants to turn their jacuzzi tubs on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► the storage what used to be a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► important part of the high-cost storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► is the problem right i mean because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► you are if you're if you're generating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► power in the middle of the day when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► Sun and Sun is up that's not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► when you want the power maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► though it's really hot you want air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► conditioning on but you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► middle of the day when you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► not even at home and here and your beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► solar power is your solar sensors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► generating all this power but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► can't store it it just it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► you have to burn it off right it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► garlic wasted sunshine but with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► giant batteries of the superheated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► sodium um that that cities can build you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► know they can they can build them added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► a giant scale and create a kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► small grid we're all day long were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► soaking up the Sun we're sending that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► power to our local our local sink and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► then at night it redistributes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► interconnected technologies are what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► going to enable us to like understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► how much we contributed to the pile how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► much we're taking back you know it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► is it's an incredibly exciting time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► when you talk when you when you're for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► instance if you were running for City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► Council of your city and you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► people about it you're not allowed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► excited about that stuff because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► you're the crazy rock candidate who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► talking about molten-salt batteries 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► what about a space station that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► waterfalls and its moments all batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► are they we like there will be so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► faroe islands have already started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► developing like yeah like municipal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► scale battery the complexes but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► will be an American city that decides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► yes we are the pilot program for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► this is where this is where we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► let's build let's start building these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► talk about new jobs right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► should be Seattle who but we can't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► about it unless enough people believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► that the future is a real thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► technologies are that we are really on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► the cusp of a huge across-the-board step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► forward and all these things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► to be integrated right so we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► to just we don't have to build more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► stables downtown we need to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► thinking about the interconnectivity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► everything and you know I don't I swear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► to you like a lot of the people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► seattle City Councilor like the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► my daughter sends me pictures sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► of my granddaughter but I can't open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► them are they a PDF or something I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► anyway that's something that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► it shouldn't be because again the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► that typically run for local office are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► coming out of traditions that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► you know there's no there there's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► the criteria for being president the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► united states not yet to be a citizen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► that's right gotta be 35 correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► families know you can have felonies you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► cannot have ever been in open rebellion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► against the United States also no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► treason treason busters no treason no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► you cannot have declared allegiance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► already know perfectly but other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► oh you have to have lived in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► States you have to be a city born in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► America but you also have to have lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► American then go live in France your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► life and then run for the US President [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► you have to their is a like a somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► of a residency requirement but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► there's no experience requirements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► that's true for a reason because the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► think personally that the founders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► understood that the more that you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► well that it in invariably leads to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► old darky we're the only people that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► practice politics are the practiced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► politicians and yet that is our instinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► every time write like a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► have come to me and said well why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► you running for City Council why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► you run for neighborhood council what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► your real game and I'm like well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► running for City Council because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► the that is the job that I that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► and there isn't but that but that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► but but the conventional wisdom within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► this group of 500 people that know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► there is even a city council is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► way you get this job is that you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► on your college democrats and you work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► some campaigns and you you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► and-and-and day and there really is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► kind of farm team mentality because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► those are the people who pursue you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► those are the people who pursue elective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► office so often and typically they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► not reading wired but I say right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► are not they don't have a podcast i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► don't know of any other candidates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► have a podcast and that and I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► that we should be ruled by podcasters as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► deer deer deer right imagine imagine uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► the McElroy brothers in the US Senate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► the thing about the tall hat in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► in the morning Scorsese movie haha never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► have Lincoln what's-his-name a uh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► it's a it's Abraham Lincoln gangs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► Capitol Hill Abraham a mcelroy lincoln [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4406">TS</a>]
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01:13:33 ◼ ► podcast there are some nice guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► mcelroy's of course all the great shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► right the McElroy's they live up over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► the over yonder sure the bill something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► I'm you one of their daughters comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► over here and there is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► Roderick boys can sleep in my barn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► whatever you do and yeah I am I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► know my gosh i find this i do find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► interesting as much as I find politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4438">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► personally tedious i think that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► there's a lot about what you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► to do that is extremely interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► that the way that has overflowed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► something else that I barely understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► is management and the whole idea of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► the role that managers or leaders if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► like have inside of a company and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► don't know it always seems that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► feels to me like people are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► lavish managers with you know all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► different ways to develop and educate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► and all these sorts of things and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► the real problem is all these worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► bees over here just to just don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► mm and I i can and this is not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► relationship but it seems like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► in your position has to really want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► particular job and to specifically has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► to really want to do a certain kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► work that requires a strange balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► doing something with my two hands here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► let's go like on the one hand it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► to me that a lot of your job is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► implementation like you're gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► be involved in conversations about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► that's going to happen in the next three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► to six 1215 months right there stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► you're doing that it is it isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► you know a philosophy party their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► you're gonna have to do every day that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► involves extent to which the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► continues to run efficiently right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► on the other hand you have to make all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► of those decisions through a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► kind of lens it seems to me like on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► one hand it be your liking somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► who's great at implementing it is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► communicator but a also has the lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► so even though you're not walking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► this situation situation in a space suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► with a Raygun i'm saying i'm john from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► the future like you have the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► mind to go i'm not i'm not scared of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► idea of smart innovation in fact i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► going to welcome it and make a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► my my Creed to like keep an eye out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► the stuff we don't need to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► thinking about this week because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► will always be there will always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► the urgency of this week but like to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► thinking about how will I know the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► pitch when it comes along like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► able to keep up on the kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► tutti-frutti can help you make great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► decisions about like you say let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► specific not building more stables in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► yeah everybody's gonna always want more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► stables because there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► stable industry and people use tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► etc but you know it's like The Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► Ford you know fast people what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► wanted they would set a faster horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► same idea like i don't know maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► wrong about that but it seems like i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► talking to talking to a friend of mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► the other day about your candidacy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► saying like you know it seems even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► you were to be say a senator a senator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► or a congressperson but especially like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► a senator you have enough of a staff of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► people that you have to have a staff of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► people so that you can on some level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► stay up in the clouds a little bit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► what you do you don't want to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► make sure that every document got signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► but in your case you're not gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► more than one two or three people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► staff them i mean you're gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► be heavily involved in a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► implementation details so you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► can't afford to be all up in the trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► but it does mean that I'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► anywhere with this I just think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► really valuable to have somebody there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► who even just because you're not walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► and carrying a sign doesn't mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► don't have your own idea of a vision and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► part of that vision is not specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► implement this thing but to say we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► to change the way we look at and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► yeah and that means making we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► to do that you're gonna have to all do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► something very weird and very courageous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► which is to admit that the future is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► happening whether we like it or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► write the future is not going to present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► itself as an app within in app purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► it's going to come along as something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► that seems extremely strange and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► really out there at first but in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► to make the right infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► decisions we have to be thinking beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► the end of our nose and realize what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► what future do we want to have here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► how does that affect what we implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► and I and we have lots of love lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► role models right where we are looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► at San Francisco your own town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► saying wow this wave of of prosperity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► crashed on san francisco and san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► Francisco has a culture a traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► culture of like hey man hey man you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► blocking my Sun man and so that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► San Francisco is very lazy fair about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► stuff like kale culturally be culturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► yeah but they're not lazy fair about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► lot of stuff they're not but what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► happened need a permit to take a shit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► this town you can't well boy a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► people are getting permits then haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► continue my bones going to tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► we don't need to have an operation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► some of the company and want to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► lashing to defecate how does what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► point-to-point the candidate to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► Tenderloin district that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► gonna poison account of the of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► prescription pad that somebody ripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► off of a doctor's desk I need bread you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► want to use it for the next 30 days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► it's not funny on any level because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► not funny because it is real and gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► and it's also not funny because nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► shooting outside wants to be doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► mostly exactly right fucking awful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► it but it's emblematic and you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► I just more of like good luck trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► get your movie made in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► like there's a reason Vancouver's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► thriving and nobody picks movies movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► here anymore and Seattle has you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► Seattle has experienced a lot of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► of those same problems and the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► weird we are just you know we are where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► San Francisco was some number of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► ago it's hard to know exactly how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► years behind we are but the money is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► pouring in the social services are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► keeping pace the rent is going crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► the middle class is getting pushed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► there is no you know we're we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► becoming a city where everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► either making two hundred thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► dollars or twenty thousand dollars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► alternative there is a Seattle way of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► experiencing this growth that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► different from anywhere else we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► believe that that's true and we are able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► to impose our values on what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► in our own city but it does require some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► it requires foot spa it requires will to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► we all know that the free market is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► a thought technology that we've all been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► duped into believing in there enough air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► quotes with the phrase free market you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► know it works if you believe in it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► doesn't work if you don't it is just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► yeah it's just another idea yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► not legally binding like none of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► none of these thought technologies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► when we have enshrined in law are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► anymore legally binding than the laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► that we have written to enshrine them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► and so we are capable of writing new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► laws we are capable of envisioning a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► form of city and yet it's never as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► simple as I mean there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► kind of movement right now to try a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► version of rent control which is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► closer to I think it's more accurately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► described as controlling the rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► changing changing the abilities of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► landlords to rent according to what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► restrictions on like well rent is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► different category of service now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► oh it's a it's a really a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► approach completely different approach I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► mean I'm sorry that sounds really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► insipid but instead of saying here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► lot about how much you can raise right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► it's taking it from a different angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► taken from a different angle like rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► is the thing and it's going to be tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► to the consumer price index so rents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► cannot rise any faster that the consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► how's that for a new idea right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► it's like oh that's a pretty novel idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► yeah you said as much in your i think on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► your webpage and probably in a speech or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► something he said something pretty smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► which is that your you know gentle about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► it but it sounds like you're basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► saying what rent control does is ensure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► that anybody lucky enough to have gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► here a few years ago has cheap rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/4936">TS</a>]
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01:26:31 ◼ ► they interviewed me because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► trying to decide who they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► endorse in my race the Sierra Club and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► sat at a table and you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5197">TS</a>]
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01:26:52 ◼ ► chamber of commerce and i put it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5212">TS</a>]
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01:26:58 ◼ ► witch took me to the top of a windmill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5218">TS</a>]
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01:27:13 ◼ ► Seattle chamber commerce is so I'm late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► for the meeting i show up back at the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► the meeting you know they wait for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► walk in for whatever reason that day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► chose to wear a tweed suit so I'm in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► I'm half an hour late and I appear to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5248">TS</a>]
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01:27:33 ◼ ► where downtown is and who legitimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► thought that the Seattle chamber of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5256">TS</a>]
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01:30:14 ◼ ► a week than any city council candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► has ever raised in Seattle history so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5417">TS</a>]
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01:30:27 ◼ ► Seattle Chamber of Commerce is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► to pick me as their endorse endorser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► but when i win the election i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPyRyes/5435">TS</a>]