00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:24 ◼ ► beep-boop-beep-boop-beep more was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/24">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► it's going good at it's going great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► yeah how so good so good I was just uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► was just listening to some hold music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► and the whole music was maybe the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/44">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► most appropriate hold music I'd ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► what's that it was one lonely violin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► playing a kind of gypsy funeral music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/58">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► that's a very interesting choice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/64">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► know and so often now you got to get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► hold music and it's just like school or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► some terrible thing I never understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► that and this was like just one violin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/77">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► just like 12 ya somethin mournful super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/84">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► mournful kva city is standing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► roof of his general just playing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/90">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► single by Lynn and I was just like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► is the greatest and it was kind of hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► was all scratchy old system was like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► aren't all why isn't all hold music like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► this i just i seriously want this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/109">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► yeah I mean I there's so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► holes under must be reasonably is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/118">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► way that they do but like there's seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► like there's these worst practices of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► things were like you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► ultimately as the person who's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► ideally you want to speak as quickly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► possible but if you can't speak as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► it's nice to be able to like do other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► stuff or you know so you know I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/136">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► thing is what drives me crazy especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/140">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► if you're on like without the comcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► company is it breaks in here click and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► you'll go take a speaker wherever we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► and get here click and then the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/147">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► yeah where you know so I mean I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► feel like I wish they would just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/154">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► the wrong approach but then also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► everything's all like jumping if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► good music it would sound like the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► am radio like inside of a fish tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► right yeah and the the phone tree system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► that i just tried to navigate said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► know for one press of for English press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► one side best one said for for the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► you're not interested in press one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► the thing you're not interested in also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► so I press three they said for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► permutation of the thing that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► interested in that you're not interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► in press one for the permutation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► thing that you are interested in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/192">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► you're not interested in press two for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► the permutation you are interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► but it's like stuff you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► already been going to be there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► yeah right and here we go and was so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► I do that three or four times and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/204">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► get an A and finally the recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► message says for the thing for the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► reason that you are calling press one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► and I'm like here we go and i pressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/212">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► everything that I already knew and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/221">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► couldn't have been to this place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► their phone tree without knowing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► and then at the end of the phone miss at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► the end of that message there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/231">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► further option to progress to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/232">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► level so it was basically made it to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/236">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► it was the ultimate may I made it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► to an announcement that is reading from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► a powerpoint demonstration of God and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► powerpoint demonstration of how to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► to have be the most basic and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/252">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► it was just like to repeat this press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► one to go back to the menu and so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► that point all you can do is go operator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► operator operator 000 right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► normally do that with without even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► listening to the first thing but today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► felt generous i was like i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► follow this poetry although i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► go up into the highest branches of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► tree where the view will be spectacular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► we're part of it i think about like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► you're trying to write something long or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► when you're dealing with a big project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► I mean with me like for example trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► to write that book a few years ago I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► constantly torn between these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/290">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► impulses there was the one impulse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► just make make make new stuff which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► think the good impulse when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► drafting then there's the other impulse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► which is like yeah but you should also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/300">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► keep outlining and reviewing what you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/301">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► done already not revising but like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► this compulsion of like feeling like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► have to make sure that this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► make sense with what I've already done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► and I wonder if influential like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► you take that model and spread across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► different business units and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► different people contributing different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/318">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► parts to the tree and there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► anybody who's project managing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► sensible it is to hear something a given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► point and maybe it's not totally up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► date you know what I mean yes I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► specially medium-sized corporation i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► would say we wouldn't have dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► well I know it's like I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► analogous to the way that we misuse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/337">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► police in the sense that what if we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► a problem in our town and you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► how to solve it you send the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► right even though the police are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► problem solvers really they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► that's not the problem solving unit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/350">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► the city have thought about that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► interesting that's interesting in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► the police are really useful in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► ways but they are not the like we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► they're not the psychology team to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► out to figure out what somebody's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► somebody's yelling right and in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/366">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► it seems like the engineers are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► people that they send to solve a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► problems right send the engineers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/377">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► the engineers are you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/380">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► they're like the police they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► good at at doing the thing that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► but they are you know they're not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► ones that you send in to do just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► check to see if a normal person can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► figure out your project if a normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► person who isn't who has no inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► knowledge is going to show up at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► look for the doorbell yeah and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► in the engineers like well there isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► doorbell clearly what you need to do at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► that point is to you know retina scan or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► whatever it's like the persons looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► for the doorbell can't find it right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► that you know and that disconnect where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► businesses don't you know and like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► should hire a squad of normals right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/422">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► there should be like team normal wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► those people are constantly kept totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/427">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► in the dark about your about the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► your business makes everything and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► it's made and how it's made and then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► they are the like they are the final the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► final test and it's not like testers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► they actually belong to their they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► they're part of your business and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► just unleash your stuff on them write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► unbuttons the wrong word but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► somebody who's there specifically to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► find what's broken about what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/454">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► I'm not just a tester but somebody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► that case and I'm actually that someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► like testing now that I hear those words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► advocate for the the busy and confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► yeah right now if you're I guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► you have to do is you have to imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► and this is the thing that that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► so infrequently in the way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► design things it's like imagine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► person not just your imagine the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► right but like imagine a user who has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/482">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► who doesn't even know they want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/486">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► your product who doesn't who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► imagine the user who's showing up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► with like a crying baby whose doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► exactly what i was thinking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/497">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► it's exact was just thinking of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► to hold a crying baby and use the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► with one hand right when you totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/502">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► self-absorbed position to take but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► are the times I felt most acutely this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► was never designed to work in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► situation and this is when I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/509">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► needed to work right but here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► thing here's one you ready for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/512">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► never have any device this happens with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► bluetooth speakers have lots of never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► have any device in the world that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► a noise when you turn it off like a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/519">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► should not make a noise when it's locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► unnecessary have a bluetooth speaker my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► shower that makes a blue when you shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► I was never aware of how many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► make a noise when you turn them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► until I had a kid I was trying to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► sleep you can get a use case you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► they're saying goodbye is that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► what the the concept is like well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► one they turn it off we should we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/541">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► set to give them one last salutation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► right i think it's probably part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► experience where like you know it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► to be that felt like a sign of status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► that your car made a bloop you know only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► douchebags and rich kids had those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/554">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► at one time and so once that became now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► you were kinda like when you're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/558">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► for doesn't matter whatever like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► feel like you're a big shot up the ramp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► yeah i'll answer Maryland especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► with speakers though I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/566">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► confluence of two annoying things which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/567">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► it's just speaker on a suction cup is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► water resistant water proof nominally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/574">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► but it's very very cheap was like nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► dollars and I and like what you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/579">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► do with good interface you need to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/583">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► you need to do some house so for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/586">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► there's a light that blinks the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► time that's on which makes me a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/589">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► bit crazy and then it makes a blue one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► blue please turn on what we turn off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/592">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► that's how lets you know right yeah I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/593">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► was sort of side question yes speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/597">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► have you ever sitting in the bath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/603">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► suction-cupped the speaker to your self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► now you know when it's a great question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► if i were a little younger I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► would probably one of the first or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► second things like I did not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► selection couple things to myself you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► know I'm gonna like turn it up and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/619">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► like our fields all right it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► like yeah you really going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/623">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► haptic right you really feel the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► you feelin not happen but you feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► your-your-your there in the shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► let's see being kind of high-end trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► that Alex suction cup the speaker to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► yourself and then you're like while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► you're waiting on hold pretty you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► can I I imagined that I would ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► yeah you know the other thing is I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► like what you said though about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/645">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► police being like the engineers being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► mmm i think there's there's a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/650">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► common there but i think there's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► two different poor impulses with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/653">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► police maybe for me I kind of feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► they become my surrogate dad were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► if I felt like I've done everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► can to ask control threaten and it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► doesn't work out or I'm annoyed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► I tried to do this anymore but you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► up calling the police today coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► take care of this thing like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► should you're gonna you go to the cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/673">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► yeah in with engineers i have a feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► the impulse is more practical of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► well these nerves are going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► be the ones who you know do this anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► let's just give it straight to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► you know and I'm nothing against you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► know engineering it's like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► such a misunderstood and difficult job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► but you know it's it's likely say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/695">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► know don't don't put the guy who claims [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► that cleans up after the elephants in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► charge of who's allowed to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/702">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► parade because he's going to have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► specific point of view but I I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► I feel like this there are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► products and there are things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► interact with that are that are purely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► for pleasure right that we you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► a guitar for instance you very seldom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► sit down pick up a guitar and go oh god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/722">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► I hate this guitar i just have to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► with it right now right and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/728">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► oh yeah that are in that category just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► like I I just can't wait to get alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► with this thing but most of the products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► that we are being sold now and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/740">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► presumption of everybody a presumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► of the people making the thing are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► okay are you ready to sit down with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► epson eps XP 400s and really get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/754">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► this experience of working with this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► know we're going to give you like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► screen that has a sunset on it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► going to say hi to you right you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► microwave microwave when it goes off it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► scrolls and leds enjoy your meal haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► right and so insulting i don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► been applying its greeting me and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► your day I Antonio Berlin come back i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► talking to you you know and this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/781">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► concept of like I mean ninety percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► the things that I interact within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► day I but my met my attitude about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/789">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► interacting with you I just have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► through this process please can you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► make it as simple as absolutely and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► you walk up to the ATM and they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► hi would you like to hang out with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► the ATM machine let's let's chat about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/804">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► up yours bank up yours machine up yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► programmer up yours everybody just give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► me the like basic and and that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► the idea that the the nicest thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/817">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► who are designing these things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/822">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► designed it so that you so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► invisible and then it does not assert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/825">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► itself right because you are standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/829">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► there not only with the crying baby but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► you don't nobody goes to the ATM machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► like I can't you know what later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► today after i'm done with my work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/837">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► really need the money but I just enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► yeah i'm gonna change into something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► comfortable and just go down and fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► chat with me taking fucking language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► just hang out man i'm gonna i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► call up some phone trees pick a language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/849">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► maybe i'll pick it maybe i'll pick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► the language that isn't mine and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/852">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► listen to what it says in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► language and and I see that so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► like every copier I've bought in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► last however long you know which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► lot more copies than I ever should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/863">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► had to Bonnie photocopiers photocopier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► zat Arras multifunction printers that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► right there are also yes scanners and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► also you know can do a thousand other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► things and every one of them is just is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► just like at a loss leader pyramid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► scheme to sell overpriced cartridges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► right right that our thing that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► work just like somebody was like what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► we made ink out of bb's and each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/886">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► like that's a for that is a visit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/891">TS</a>]
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00:15:07 ◼ ► think half the printers i bought our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/907">TS</a>]
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00:15:14 ◼ ► blind and then we've got it can can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/914">TS</a>]
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00:15:20 ◼ ► need some help but just even going in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► enter the Wi-Fi password have a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/923">TS</a>]
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00:15:29 ◼ ► arrow to choose a letter capital no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/929">TS</a>]
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00:15:45 ◼ ► against the best practices everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► should be using a better password but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/947">TS</a>]
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00:15:58 ◼ ► printer they can be off happening here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► is a choice of identity theft maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► print shit all day while you're at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/963">TS</a>]
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00:18:04 ◼ ► you know it's funny I think about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► the kind of jobs i can pass and refer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► certain jobs I've had as someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► information janitor where nobody notices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1091">TS</a>]
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00:18:15 ◼ ► you know the kind of job I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1095">TS</a>]
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00:18:18 ◼ ► have the kind of job where people only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► notice what you do when it doesn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► flawlessly that would be a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► thing the other thing is I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► wanted to have one of those kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► interaction is mostly based on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► little they had to interact with you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► you think about checking into a hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► late at night you think about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► obviously rental car because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► the rental cars like the worst because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► at that point you're like uh okay i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► finally done with all these flights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► I'm not into the hotel yet now i gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► get a rental car and like every like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► picosecond that goes by that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► having to deal with that person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► they're asking what the gps and in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► dudn't know I just you know I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► like yeah that's the problem is though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► there with a device that's kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1139">TS</a>]
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00:19:03 ◼ ► cover people's needs with an ATM but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1143">TS</a>]
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00:19:09 ◼ ► mean I again but we're going to guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► what I'm saying is we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► evaluate that interaction based on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► little time it took its kind of how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► feel about going out to eat I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► somebody is extremely efficient I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► hi guys how y'all doing tonight how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1159">TS</a>]
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00:19:24 ◼ ► just settle in here to reminisce with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► you say lots of our appies via the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► thing about the rental car business at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► airports is that you know they know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► you're exhausted they know that you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► want to get out of there and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► they take that opportunity to upsell u14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► time it's all that's the thing is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1179">TS</a>]
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00:19:44 ◼ ► gonna be all about all that other crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► in the collision and explaining their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1186">TS</a>]
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00:19:54 ◼ ► amazing is that my interacting with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► iphone as much as I do how much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► business model of the internet right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► is based on that same kind of coercion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► like oh are you really excited to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► this this little YouTube video well why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► don't we take 15 seconds and talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► plans for the the best one is I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► figured out like my latest attack which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► is akin to my hack of never upgrading my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► my latest attack is i went in and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► turned off cellular data uh in my iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► ok interesting that is a life hack I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► don't want my games interacting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► internet and what I discovered is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► turned off cellular data for my games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► and that prohibits the games from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► downloading video advertisements which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► often are the thing that Jam my phone up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► the most absolutely but Apple has made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► sure that every time I turn on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► that has cellular data disabled it pops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► up a screen that says cellular data is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► disabled for this and it won't let me do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► anything else right until I close that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► screen and so I never thought of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1275">TS</a>]
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00:21:20 ◼ ► going to come from advertising right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1280">TS</a>]
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00:21:29 ◼ ► punish you each time by saying like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1289">TS</a>]
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00:21:36 ◼ ► want you to know that you've done it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1296">TS</a>]
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00:21:40 ◼ ► Apple functionality of telling you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► can't do something because you shut that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► reminding you that you're in airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► mode or something I mean for that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► developers who are putting ads in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► is the way to sustain that I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► because you know like sometimes I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► make the mistake out i'll turn off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► location services in something because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► don't want my photos tagged million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► shares location but then and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► even sure if that works that may just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► a total like problem but i do what i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► particularly you know what I'm lying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► bed at night sending naked texts out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► friends in Europe when you break into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► the White House you know I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► like that tagged exactly what up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► but then i'll click on the map program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► now why would I be doing that right if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► didn't want right to know if I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► want the map to like serve me here by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► knowing where i am and you know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► idea that at that point the thing pops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► up and says you need to you what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► can't turn that on from here you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► now go back to your settings and enable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► location services and then come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► here right and you're standing on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► street corner and pouring down raining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► right exactly and then after exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► scenario we're talking about and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► just like a the that somebody hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► thought that through that if you click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► on map like let's just assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► location services and it is enabled like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► uh the night that the point zero one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► percent of the time that I go on into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► maps and just want to see like where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► the 17th a tourism mole in Paris who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► know i would like to see that on in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► map program rather than googling it its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► that's negligible compared to the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► of times when I'm in a hurry and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► like oh where is that place you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► within to love using it really as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► traditional atlas in that instance i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► using it look we're a thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► regard to where you are right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► I do that sometimes like chef the Faroe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► Islands I wonder how many natural water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► sources they're all in the parallel i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► wonder if i can see them from my map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► program it'll be able to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► there's a lot of i mean i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► flip through atlases anymore like I once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► did my whole life and so all i have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► this little black box that comes to bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► with me every night and I just get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► flip through it it may require updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► but there is in iOS 8 just for what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► worth Chancellor key so we let me if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► don't see something out there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► actually way to go on to privacy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► then location services and it's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► you always have the ability to turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► location to never and then depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► the app usually your other choice is use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► location while i'm using it or use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► all the time so that's kinda cool but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► that was just another is granularity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► shutting it off if you want just never I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► mean I have most of mindset to never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► is this drawing program that my kid uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► want that one of my location mnoi just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► to see how many you can do this with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► kind of creepy always never those are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► well also while using so if you go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► this case I got a chrome the browser and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► it says the location access never or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► just while using the app so that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► an upgrade because right now on when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► go to privacy I just have always know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► while using the app hello some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► yeah so that should help a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► thank you John siracusa for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► constant yelling at merlin homicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► I satisfied with your care and this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► this instance you have forced Merlin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► do a thing then and as you have Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► has showed dinosaur John know but listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► i want to i want to also commiserate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► because you know as I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► transparently obvious to people what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► kinds of things you should flip on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► wear and it does have an impact on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► battery life and on your to some extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► your privacy right well I'm like it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► at any any service you sign up for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► the first thing i do when i set up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► anything goes straight to the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► and straight to profile where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► increasingly not even surprised anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► when it's saying make everything public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► you know you just gotta go in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► go it was just you know you I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► really want my want all my information I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► don't wanna be accessible i don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► the email i'm saying is really is buyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► beware at this point where you've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► go in and make sure that your ducks in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► yeah yeah it is buyer beware well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► the thing is you talk about battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► yeah my it's my psychic better little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► that is always always always always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► agents it's always on three percent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► I'm afraid that that that it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► shut off its I'm afraid that my battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► life is gonna shut me down at fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► percent which are used to do before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► yeah and I don't want to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► actually lately I've had a surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► amount of energy and it's because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► I'm undergoing a forced program of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► energy i can't wait to hear about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► well you know what i mean i got it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► just like okay you you have to show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► yeah when you have stuff to do you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► have to have you you find reservoirs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► energy that that prior would have seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► inaccessible yeah i'm and and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► always that feeling you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► feeling when you're like crusting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1618">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► mountain range or above the tree line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► and you know over that Ridge there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► little lake and you just got to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► there but you're really tired you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► to find that energy to you know to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► up / and then it's downhill to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► little lake it helps to know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► yeah right we're trying to use every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► part of the time Buffalo it helps a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► oh I just don't need to get through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► rest of my life I need to get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► you know what I mean yeah right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► and so often the problem of living a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► life like mine was formerly that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► always a false horizon you know always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► false summit like you're coming up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► trail and you're like I can see light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► through the trees i'm at the summit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► you get when you get to that use you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► crest that Ridge and you're like oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► just a ridge i'm not at the summit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► then you see watch the mountain go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► and played apples tell me to go here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► top of the windmill this isn't my are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► not having a meeting here I'm Chamber of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► Commerce is tapping their feet are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► impressive to hear that was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► things I was most kind of quietly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► concerned about was like what a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► I mean that's it sounds like i'm calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► you lazy which is not what I mean to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► saying which is that knowing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► let's put it that way you you tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► in my experience given the options you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► tend to prefer to do a lot of your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► just like when you change the job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► you're doing something else and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► that becomes the new thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► doing it was always hard for me to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► up in the morning but now I have things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► to do so i'm getting up in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► and then you settle into a thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► it's like oh it's no harder for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► get up in the morning then it is anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► it's just that the problem isn't getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► up in the morning the problem is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► always hard to get up when the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► thing motivating you to do your work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► you all I know that that's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► going up the ridge you get there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► you're like his there's nothing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► this is not what I I didn't do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► 10,000 other things in order to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► and like you know the right is not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► the the paintings not there whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► yeah yeah I i totally agree the thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► feel like i am going through like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► wife is working more she's changed jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► and is working a lot more just great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► I'm very happy to and really enjoy my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► time with the kids so it is more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► especially in the afternoons you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► is it's like I maybe like you I got used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► yeah but you know there would be a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► constraints in the day I think for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► work is challenging especially somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► who loves to sleep is to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► constraint of their stuff that needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► happen up to a certain point at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► especially if you want to have a social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► life or whatever but you know even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► like getting the the bath has to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► every night whether we feel like it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► not like you know we can only tolerate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► the kitchen being dirty for so long you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► don't mean you want to be an animal so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► on the one hand there's the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► has to happen tonight and it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► stuff that really needs to happen at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► certain point in the morning extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► what rare that my kid wakes up later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► than six so that problem is though then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► like the funeral saying you feel that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► between and then you get look up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► complaining I'm really actually not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► got I just invented a new phrase i call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► the grumble brag with which is when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► are when you claim that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► complaining about something while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► totally complaining about it haha but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► anyway when you get enough of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► little waystations it's why it's so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► to have multiple jobs right yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► becomes so much overhead and so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► like stress about all the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► checkpoint you have to get to in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► little rally do you let me ask you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► question because i was thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► the other day just as i was driving down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► the street I was like Merlin's book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► yeah Merlin's book was a thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► thought about a lot while you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► making it and then you know thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► about it a lot while you were not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► his deciding not to make it and like do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► you ever fall prey to thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► what is probably quite a pile of writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► that you did write and think like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► something I'm gonna repurpose for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► something or that's something I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► eventually gonna do something else with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► or guided every just happy just buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► it to be honest it is in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► incredibly painful in a number of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► it's still still it's difficult to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► about because on the one hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► painful that this was something i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► very not just passionate about but felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► really uniquely capable of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► I had a lot of thoughts I had no there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► no dearth of thoughts in my head about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► what to what to do and I had a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► say I produced a lot of words i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► love that many of the words and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► actually going to settle this before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► I'm going somewhere with this way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► the part that makes it looks super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► painful though it was we get to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► the sunk cost fallacy stuff where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► start thinking about what that did in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► family for so long like for so long my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► wife was just unbelievably supportive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► and said yes to anything I ask for until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► I started to really like honestly abused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► it but like there were times like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► long does it take me to learn i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► going to write anything good and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► substantial after seven o'clock at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► and yes i would happen because i'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► stressed out about that i would happily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► leave her with all of the household [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► duties while I go out and sit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► feel terrible about myself that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► that's that was all very difficult i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► still feel em failures too strong of war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► but i certainly feel like a success and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► how that whole thing went the other big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► part of this which you didn't ask about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► this but the other big part of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► just how much the landscape has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► which we've talked about this i mean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► true for musicians but it's really true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► for all kinds of what will generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► call content creators the evenin the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► last year that's changed let alone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► last five years so I mean on the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► hand i had a lot of stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► probably close to a hundred thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► words of words i started out with 40,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► website that need to be added a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► words but I never really got it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► the thing i wanted and it's not even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► thing as always feeling this pressure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► make it a kind of about email even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► though it didn't have to be an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► more and more that felt like such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► millstone to me so it's not like i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► that much I want to do with that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► ideas in there are still very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► and very lively to me just now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► comes out in podcast the thing the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► though ultimately makes it something I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► not trying to repurpose or really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► explore I don't know I'm I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► rule out writing a book at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► but I writing anything right now is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► really tough racket mean it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► tough racket and i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► industry has changed business has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► changed and i think the audience has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► changed so honestly the kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► that people will pay not that much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► for our things I don't necessarily want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► to write I don't want to write listicles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► i don't i don't want to produce dozens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► of kindle books you know and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► what it's really if this was true in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► 2009 but it's really true now that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► and something Hodgins said when he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► saying that this is a good idea to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► is that you know this is how you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► invited on the fresh air like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► how this is your jumping off point to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► bigger thing right is like once you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► yeah but it wasn't even that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► looking for it was just being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► feel like the time and energy and stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► that i had invested in that I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► turn into something really great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► timeless maybe that was too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► pressure to put on myself but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► became too much and now today like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► know the whole inbox zero thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► really just the whole concept is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► misunderstanding of what i was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► say struggling to say yeah makes it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► little bit dead in the water to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► honestly that the thing as I stand here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► today yes i still feel terrible about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► how that went for everybody involved but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► it is also a thing of like you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► things being equal if you're a reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► TV star having somebody ghostwriter book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► is not a bad idea that somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► wants to sweat every single word of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► something that will probably take nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► months to a year to do I guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► tough work for what you can expect in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► yeah yeah that setup is that I answered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► i mean i-i think about it a lot in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► different way now because I because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► I've been reflecting on the last period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► of my life which is kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► it's the wisdom of retrospect you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► back and say oh actually the last period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► of my life which seemed to go by and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► blink actually was two distinct periods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► and it was filled with these two sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► different as you as you as you a portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► your life into eras yeah by looking back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► and saying like which in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► takes several years to realize what area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► yeah right and at some of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► happening now and you know it a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► the projects that i have pursued over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► the course of my whole adult life but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► particular the last handful of years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► they didn't come all the way to fruition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► I and that there was a period of sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► and being very excited about the about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► television show i was thinking of making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► when I drove across America and went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► went to little depressed cities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► tried to identify it there arc from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► time that they were founded through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► time with cyber school and I totally see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► you doing that than I ever describe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► to you I don't remember you describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► this but that actually is like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► sounds like forgive my saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► sounds like the work you were made for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► it really would be a really good at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► I was super excited about you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► and and and he'd come in to put tipsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► and you'd say like here's what here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► what this land looked like when there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► was an Indian settlement here and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► why the here's why the settlers chose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► because it was a great place to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► mill and here's what they milled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► then there was a period of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► prosperity when they figured out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► out to you know what this this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► place where they invented the tie tack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► and the tie tack blew up and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► in the world needed one and this was tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► tack central and I sack boom you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► that's why they're all these beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► uh beaux-arts mansions up on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► particular hill that they call founders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► hill and and then world war one came and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► you know and I could be telling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► story in both at both video but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► animation and and historical photographs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► and you know just kind of do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► a rama of a place and then say then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► know us manufacturing decline looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► cosmos but hyperlocal right right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► mean that sounds really silly but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► so great and look at second and Tyson no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► deGrasse Tyson alright they're both so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► great at taking these complex ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► making it something that not only kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► of kind of understand but you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► incredibly interesting by being very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► specific but limited like you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► going to cover everything like in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► your case you're not you're reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► encyclopedia for pickup see it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► like saying what you taught me that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► so grateful for is like you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► look at the complexion of this land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► look at where this water is look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► where that hill is look at how until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► they had promised ridiculous you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► couldn't live up on that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► hill that you know yeah y-you're I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► you're awfully good at that and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► exciting because once you once you open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► your mind to that way of seeing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► look at your own town that way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► doesn't you know you wouldn't need a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► show to do it you can like like you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► there's a reason that somebody planted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► their their flag here and it's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► because that was where the water was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► that was where the that's what was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► defensible position and the city grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► this way and that way you can tell where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► it is like that hope that whole mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► i was on when I was on tour with Harvey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► danger where every time every town on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► the east coast and in the southeast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► particular we pull in the bus would stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► open up the door and the tour manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► would say well you guys got four hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► to kill until soundcheck and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► walk up the bus am going to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► Civil War graveyard gonna find the Civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► War graveyard that is in every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► these towns and invariably where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► would have been the outskirts of town in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► 1870 without having to look it up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► city by City basis you can get a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► yeah you just know like okay I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► know that it's not on the outskirts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► town now right because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► there's no town back east that has grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► none but it's but in a lot of cases it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► kind of in the decaying inner ring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► then you find the civil work graveyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► know that you kind of can see then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► was built after 1870 and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► inside of it at least that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► those were the city limits and Sons like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► a little a little clue you can mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► count on you right and and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► different in every place and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► and the the Yankee graveyards are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► different than the southern ones and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► it was just a kind of little game to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► play to pass the time that that got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► out and walking but I learned a lot by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► just kind of seeking this this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► depression in the ground anyway so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► was a that was a television show that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► that I really wanted to to make and got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► excited about and then I was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► of course we're going to buy a GMC RV to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► drive around the country and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► started talking to people and people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► television and they were like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► I was like well but hook is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► really a cool idea because we hook is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► usually I think it has that case like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► that because usually you're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► really famous in some other way right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► now from TV or elsewhere you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► like Anthony Bourdain's that his name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► a show like that that's like better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► it should be because he's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► interesting guy would have gotten that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► show if you weren't already like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► celebrity chef probably not and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► the thing people kept saying to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► well if you had written a book about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► American town and I'm like right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► this would kind of be the book i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► write about the American town this video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► show and then people would like well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► mean if you were like it if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► anthony kiedis I'm like well yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► if I was anthony kiedis I'd be happy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► a hot tub in vegas right i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► wouldn't be doing this and he's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► guy but it's all public images someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► suffering only i love it too hey don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► forget about him there but but no shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► now but then they were like well what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► you know what if what if you got to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► town and then you found the cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► artisanal uh like mustard factory that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► the pic the mustache kids had built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► the old abandoned hotel I was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► I'd be into that let's start sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► a different show though who different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► channel 2 100 now it's like if so then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► started following that stream and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► like what if I went to all the depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► towns in America and found them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► artisanal must mustard factory that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► mustache kids had built I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► it's not quite at em right in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► wheelhouse it's not yet i would i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► happy to interact with those people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► exploratory like but a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► towns don't have an artisanal must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► mustard factory a lot of those towns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► just have artisanal crank getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► manufactured and you know like the town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► hasn't found its its footing yet and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► that the idea can be evolving and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► eventually it just maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► somebody actually talk to somebody about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► I talk to a lot of people about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► and the and the and eventually it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► like the consensus was the classic thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► that that that my good friend christine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► connor said to me one time which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► people come all the time and say I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► watch TV but I've got a great idea for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► television show right and she said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► problem is that Pete the people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► watch TV do not want people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► watch TV to make television for them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► us she's the reason she's in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► office that's really she's so smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► yeah and and so so what the program that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► I wanted to make was exactly the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► thing that would get me to watch TV but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► that's not what you know that that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► half of the type of program that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► executives approve and there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► component of my show where where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► was no sex tape component no one got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► into a hair-pulling fight with anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► else there wasn't you know I never said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► BAM right and I didn't you know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► never added a like bacon seasoning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► vacancies and he's ready to it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► wouldn't be expressly to make people cry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► not celebrity based strictly speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► base it's not about making you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► better or more competent but there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► many non fiction TV shows that are about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► making you feel like you're a chef even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► though you're mostly someone who watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► TV and I think what it what it is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► that PBS used to fund that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► yeah and there and all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► came into the televisions fear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► seemed like little PBS's like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► discovery channel and the National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► Geographic Channel and all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► you know the smithsonian channel where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► you're like oh my god it's a world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► public television and then every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► those channels devolved away from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► National Geographic is just about cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► tiger babies decided but that should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► be so telling to think about Bravo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► ediscovery i'm not super familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► National Geographic that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► after my time we take any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► things they all started out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► aspiration of being a i think i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► suggest that but I mean with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► high-minded calling like any had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► really nerdy they would show opera on oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► Marisnick off right exactly it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► arts and entertainment and ditto ditto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► for bravo and you know there was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► before the advent of you know shark week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► when you could really see I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► and I'm not gonna let grumbling what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► saying is like once again let's just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► that the market has changed i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► something that was more palatable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► profitable that guy that announcer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► Bravo that's just like all the Bravo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► top 10 greatest falls like I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► watching this channel where it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► uh-huh and it now it's just like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► bravo we're going to go into your closet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► and find all the dirtiest shit we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► find our orders you like to cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► shirtless on motorcycles but so so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► but that the time i spent thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► that television show and plotting it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► and imagining it and Imagineering it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► let's be honest and the engineer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► engine even and then really trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► think who the market was who I could who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► would how much it would cost to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► those episodes and whether or not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► could sell fund those are internet fund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► them what if those episodes were only 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► minutes long but if they were 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► long what if i sold them to museums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► right what if that was the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► you when you walked into the PFC history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► museum that this video played and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► and that was a thing that I could make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► case to the national museum association [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► that I would go around the country and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► do these these cool videos about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► different places like a you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► churning all these different ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► in the end none of that stuff got made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► it happened right but but I can't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► of that as like a failure or a lot or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► lost time because I really worked on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► and it didn't come to fruition but but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► do think about the last five years of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► life as this period where i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► doing that a lot i was like what am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► gonna use part of your like it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► when you work on your own or you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► creative stuff an element of your job is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► always figuring out what to do next is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► to acknowledge work in general but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► think when you are creative person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► I'm not going to get creative because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► everyone should stop saying that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► your creative person and you make stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► and your output is how you are evaluated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► huge part of what you do is thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► about what to do next and how but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► don't really get points for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► understandably right you don't you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► get credit for all the Opera you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► write and and if I had when I first came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► up with this idea if I had quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► written a breezy book about the life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► death of American cities and had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► gotten that in the book pipeline and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► gone around and done fresh air and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► morning talk show circuit about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► you've got her if if the book at had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► support right gotta read this book it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► all about life and death American city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► that's where we're at right now and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► you know these artisanal mustard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► you know and then went because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► what David Rees effectively did he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► that book about pencil sharpening that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► was very much his own personal private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► world his own personal private joke on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► himself and and world that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► exploring and then converted that into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► television show and then he was in a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► world of of struggle and strife he found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► a way I so interested in this actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► he found a way tho to guess I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► take it and turn it he figured out a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► so on the one hand you okay all lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► people people buy lots of books about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► sharpening pencils well not accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► like so he found a way to essentially I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► mean I've never even read the whole book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► but from watching the TV show my sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► is what you're really getting to is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► he has a very interesting approach to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► thinking about life and experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► expertise and that applies to stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► you might be taken for granted so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► not a show about sharpening pencils and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► it's it's it's it's kind of secretly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► show about curiosity and science science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► science on some level but it's not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► isn't like educational it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► like you're taking your medicine your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► menu and what makes it so intriguing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► interested he is at least on screen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► in exploring something that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► you really understand it doesn't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► off turns out it doesn't feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► said it doesn't feel like medicine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► that's that's his success there he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► find a way to Vegas with help from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► people like Christine like figured a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► yeah and the amazing thing about David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► and this is the great thing about Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► Savage and it's a thing that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► in a way i have in common with them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► that both of those guys are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► totally into an amazed by the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► that the the things that they discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► yeah good examples I mean I go out I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► spent a lot of time traveling with David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► and he is as cynical as the next guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► the world right but if you lift up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► rock and there's a frog under it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► David is literally jumping for joy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► cannot believe that there that he found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► a frog and we were in Ethiopia together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► and we've found this swimming hole out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► in the internet like a nature preserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► and the local kids were climbing up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► and probably tall tree and jumping into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► the swimming hole and David could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► get his clothes off fast enough and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► was standing there like and and jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► coulton to and saying like uh uh David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► and he's already like well any claims of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► history and he gets up in it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► realizes how high it is and he's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► but he's standing there in his underwear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► and there are you know 25 kids cheering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► him on and he's gotta make the jump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► i'm on the shore like look man here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► the you know there's one spot in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► whole that I mean these kids are always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► 90 pounds and they can jump off that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► tree but there's one spot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► swimming hole that a 210 pound American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► guys going to land and not impale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► do not go anywhere aim here and he jumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► and he makes the landing and he pops up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► and it's just like it's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► I am never in a million years do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► well and the reason that you wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► it is that two days later the Giardia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► that went up his nose and his but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► he jumped in that pool caused him to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► everywhere now while we were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► like a staying in a single the locals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► oh well you know or or they always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► a low-level case of giardia but but um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► but David was not acclimated to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► we were then on a we were then on a navy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► base and trying to find some some cure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► because David couldn't couldn't walk 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► feet without needing to run to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► downtown Miami and but that is the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► of you know that's the kind of actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► like excitement about life and Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► Savage is the same thing I think way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► it's just like you just build a scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► the hedge maze from the shining Why What [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► Why Why What Why and it's just like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► do you mean why have you seen it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► appointee applied people who make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► iphone app that says yoga people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► then you look at him and like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► that they're dealing with the bushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► like that what is that like what good is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► this he's like what good is it it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► at it it's it it sells itself and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► like wow you mean you know like Leon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► Christian is on board one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► percent but that like a normal person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► would have no would have no idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► that was made just than that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► he makes including his TV show is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► just out of the spirit of like total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► love and total childlike excitement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► I have that same quality about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► things that i love and i think i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► lot of people have that quality about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► the things that they well and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► know and it's hard to sell its hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► sell that excitement about like tipsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► have you ever looked at it in an atlas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► it's it do you know where the freshwater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► is never gonna make it to the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► no except that these other nerds have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► managed you know like that and Adams had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► the advantage of like we're gonna blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► yeah and whatever David's advantage was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► it was he just invented out of whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► cloth right yeah and and part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► advantage was the pure in probability of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► a guy writing a book about pencils and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► but so I'm still you know i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► turning that and you obviously have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► trying to write my book about my walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► across Europe for for 15 years now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► the last in iteration of it i sent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► off to a guy in New York City and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► hundred plus thousand words too and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► you know he was a fan of our program he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► was a he was a big big editor at a at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► reputable legendary publishing house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► he was like I'm totally into this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► really think it's great but these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► hundred thousand words are really more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► like notes for a book no on the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► I was like notes for a book I was hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► you were going to say they just need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► little bit of you know you just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► run government is covering a UPC code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► yeah i was i was getting ready to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► the author photo know and that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► and that was just like right notes for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► book and the and the world has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► so much in that 15 years there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► of that writing is about is about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► those places were in 1999 and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► not like that anymore and really to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► different to be authentic in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► you have to really rethink the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► yes because you've changed so much since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► then right and and i think the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► to do it now is that some at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► 10 years from now i go retrace my steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► and then they then that whole book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► i wrote were they they were notes for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► book like here's a walk that I did when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► I was 30 and I never finished the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► so when i was 16 i went and did it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► this time on a bike that sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► documentary and on the bike and the bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► is actually motorized it's called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► motorcycle who and the motorcycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► actually is a car and it's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► plane and I flew over the I flew over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► the place that i walked in i wrote my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► reflections on that over a long weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► don't forget no go I you can be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► thinking about something now it is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► as sounds kind of karma sucks and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► don't mean it to be the way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► were describing you know talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► like trying to get you your concept for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► TV show on some of those places and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► saying that you know people don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► to watch TV from people who don't watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► yeah there's something in that is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► painful and interesting to me because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► leads to this larger point which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► know how little we each ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► understand about the industries were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► in right so you know you think you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► read lots of books so you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► yourself as somebody who's who could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3418">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► an author like a published author not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► just a writer but published some who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► sells their words for a living and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► periodically and again and again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► again or you think of yourself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► something like oh my god I've watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► and read so much science fiction uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► could I could easily make a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► fiction TV show and get it on netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► everybody's doing it nowadays but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► once you actually meet people inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► industry it ends up you rely feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► you realize how a how little you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► understand about that industry like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► all have these gases and we've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► things we've read books but in that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► we're like you go like we haven't liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► for Jon Jon's show hills and rivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► where he goes around towards the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► cities of American discusses their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► complexion like okay who do we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► that is for and like who would watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► that but also like who would advertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► on that show right cause of the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► with the show like that i could see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► being a huge disconnect that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► you want young people to watch it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► it's probably like forward that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► want to buy an ad on there or Buick or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► whatever anything make Buicks but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► don't know I just think that's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► that's part of it is like it makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► can feel depressed it's too strong a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► word but can feel like it keeps you down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► because you start to feel like such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► yeah he fundamentally don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► this industry and then then finally that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► point like why do you imagine that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► are there are by tens of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► people hundreds of thousands of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► why don't they have TV shows they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► already understand how to make TV you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► like do you think you're actually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► much better at making a movie than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► somebody who's been like an assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► yeah and yet but they're yeoman they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► it's just that we look at that go i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► make the Avengers better or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► it's like well you sure this was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► of people working on that is take right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► well as anybody staffed up some of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► part of that it is the it's the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► thing and I'm and I'm seeing it now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► in my foray into politics which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► I'm i am encountering the entrenched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► class and they are saying what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► what makes you think that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► this better then those of us who are who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► have only been doing this and have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► doing this for a long time and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► absolutely right in the sense that it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► this same exact sense that you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► described and the only hope the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► hope is that routinely there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► from outside all these spirits who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► come in with a with a good idea and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► able to master the vernacular put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► together that the right team of smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► people to help her and actually do make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► something new from outside and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► happens infrequently enough but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► that but when it does happen it's expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► so exciting to us that we you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► we miss apply the lesson and think wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► you know that again like I could I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► make the Avengers better by sitting why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► can't I be Elon Musk right why can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► be yeah it kind of isn't that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► what about it is and and and and partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► you know partly it is this kits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► question of how what role does expertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► and experience play in various jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► in you know like pediatric brain surgery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► it's a factor right expertise is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► I mean the best pediatric brain surgeon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► and the worst pediatric brain surgeon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► between those two people there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► inspiration probably is the factor right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► this person has that the best pediatric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► brain surgeon probably has incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► dexterity and has a natural physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► gift and maybe also has inspiration but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► the worst pediatric brain surgeon who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► isn't merely incompetent right who isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► malpractice but the you know the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► one who is still competent is still an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► incredible expert in their field right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► and in things like filmmaking and comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► writing and television producing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► it's much more it's much more likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► that the people who have the expertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► do have a knowledge base that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► useful but they also are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► gatekeepers in a way that that keep that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► it probably has a tendency to keep good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► I mean and a lot of the people that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► just that green light TV shows are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► producers who are who are timid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► don't want to make a mistake and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► keep making the same show over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► and what they care about the TV even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► they don't love every program they care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► about the process they well or that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► they're in the process and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► it'sit's you see that the same way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► politics that people get a long way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► like don't don't if you don't step too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► far to the left or too far to the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► keep your nose clean you make the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► friends you know just keep your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► down right they do care what is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► advice to give you a public official but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► you might have to get next day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► ultimately do care about the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► the something got them engage initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► and then they are in the process which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► feels kind of like the military or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► corporation you just you do what is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► and you don't rock the boat and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► where you're going and I think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► people end up producers in television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► and they're not they don't all love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► or even understand it but a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► are there because their brother was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► you know the brother gave him a job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► so so there are these are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► these forms that are different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► pediatrics pediatric brain surgery but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► people who occupy those jobs would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► you to think that it was equivalent to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► okay that makes sense right and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► expertise to do this it's like well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► not it expertise isn't the entire game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► in a lot of these brackets I like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► you're saying about expertise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► experience and this is probably nested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► right in the middle of what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► saying but i would say for that to form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► a three-legged stool you got experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► expertise and the third really obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► one is motivation because I think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► of the reason that and then I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► notice I'm not saying inspiration i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► saying motivation like not only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► what makes you want to do this what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► about you can even call it tastes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► some of these like what is it that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► you want to be good at this and how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► you evaluate how well it's going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► does that happen like a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► intuitively because you so like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► case of like you said in show business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3838">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► maybe you were raised in a family that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► just in your bones you know if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► Sofia Coppola like she's been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► that so much that you know just getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► a little out of this sounds really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► dismissive I don't mean to but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► think it's easy but it's certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► as is a patently difficult if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► kid in Oklahoma was only ever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► biggest explosion they've had to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► film industry is going to the cinema but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► that motivation the thing is that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► part a lot of people get wrong even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► it's hard to get the experience that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► brings you the expertise if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► have the right motivation they all end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► up popping each other up and if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► motivation week with a recipe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► well yeah and the but I think what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► think what also often happens is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► people with the right motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► encounter a system a pre-existing system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► that they aren't able to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► successfully and I think there are every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► year you see people run for office that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► seem like you know they're painted as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► kind of crackpots but they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► inspired to make a difference and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► just they're painted as crackpots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► because they are able to navigate the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► the to navigate the game and I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► we see it in corporate life all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► the people i was talking to a a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► friend the other day and she was time at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► her job she's like well the CEO doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► he's not really a visionary and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► how many people work at your company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► she said 25 and I said and you guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► a CEO like when I was coming up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► world a company that had 25 employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► maybe had a president and that President [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► was also the founder but the world we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► living in now your company of 25 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► has us as a board of directors a CEO CFO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► vice-presidents and then however many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► managers does your erectors does your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► business have any employees who um and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► that the fact that that that her company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► has a/c CEO who is 45 years old and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► you know like a guy running his own come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► running a company for the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► the expertise that he has on offer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► like the talents that he is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► applying a lot of those talents are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► like a primarily in in having the foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► um and that's you know that is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► that's a that's a a an emblem of the age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► could it's one of the few kinds of jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► that were you know this is really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► know where you can be you can get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► far potentially really fast and still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► completely self-deluded you could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► virtually psychotic and that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► actually improve your chances because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► you're one of those people who goes no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► refuse to fail i refused to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► anything except like world-changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► success with this and when I hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► I'm like man failure is always an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► like a rocket always be thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► that because you make dumb decisions if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► yeah right well i'm not and that but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► thing is that the business climate now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► for a lot of these people is like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► no interest in making this a viable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► business i want to sell this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► growth hacking growth bad so so I as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► look around the world and and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► and i definitely felt this about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► it's like there are people who make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► lot of sense telling me that well or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4075">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► rather asking me the with a knowing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► who's gonna watch your show and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► know the answer and the answer is nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► or the answer is not enough people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► sell ads to make it profitable and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► sitting on the other side saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► know you have this special knowledge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► who watches things and you're using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► special knowledge to say it's him that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► you know and invariably the people say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► would love that show but nobody's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► watch it and so what they're saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► the kind of the old classic standby like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► it would be we could make a better world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► and since they are we can't make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► better world we can only give them what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► they want to buy and so we're so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► of us who know that things could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► better are hamstrung by the fact that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► can't know we can't make things better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► and it's the you know it's the dark side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► of letting the market economy be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► Church of of your thinking huh where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► it's like yeah we could make amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► things we could make we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► beautiful television we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► television that was uh you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► for the ages but sadly no one would buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► it and so there's no point in making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► we're gonna go back to our you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► toddler t toddlers and tiaras and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► government except people aren't quite so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► Craven but you do you know you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► city government you say hey there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► there's a way to do this we could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► know we can build affordable housing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► middle-class families and people go we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► could but not only we could have all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► would love to be able to do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► what is that ok that's the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► thing about what you're saying some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► I want exactly what you want but what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► job is to sit here and tell you that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► realities don't allow it and so thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► for coming sorry that we couldn't make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► better world for you know if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► that's dumber be sure to call us stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► because we really like where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► uh-huh and that you know and ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► that is that it is an argument of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► um and you and all the examples where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► you say well somebody made this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► that nobody thought you know that nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► everybody wanted it and people go yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► but not that doesn't happen very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► and that guy was something like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► that's not good for shareholders it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► not good for shareholders you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► every once in awhile sure there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► there's a revolution and everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► thinking every once in a while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► sound just like Iggy and the Stooges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► nobody knew that that's what they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► nobody in nobody in the year 2000 said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► you know what I would like a young cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► less abrasive Iggy and the Stooges that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► underground to it could you make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► and then these kids made it and for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► year all anybody want to listen to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► that first strokes record and you go wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► that was a thing that i mean i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► in the process of making a record during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► those same months and never occurred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► me to make a you know or two to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► record that sounded exactly like Joy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► Division you can't you can't I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► guys remember that you can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► replicate the timing and circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► that my friend friend night junkie when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► I did a panel itself myself West few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► years ago and the fries were using is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► like I am and I you know it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► question of like how you're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4318">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► as our glass says is how you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► be Ted Koppel like how are you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► be who you are like you can't replicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► the the so again so obvious but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► can't replicate the circumstances and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► the timing it was never a sure bet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► anything was ever gonna happen ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► really right if you're really realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► about it what you want you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► replicate what somebody didn't go i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► gonna be the X of Y well no I mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► become the XY you have to have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► kind of the the similarities in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► spirit week I think we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► this a million times but you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► to go replicate steve jobs by like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► know being mean to people like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► not on the face of it gonna be super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► that's the wrong note to take from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► career yeah well and that's the you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► absolutely right to say that nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► ever inevitable because if it if it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► everybody would've done it everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► would have done it fantastically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► time-travel paradox via the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► business is full of people trying to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► the you know put the formula to work who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► and say okay here comes the next band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► that you are going to love everybody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► then the next Bank of loans like nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► gives a fuck yeah but there are put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► but but i cannot succumb to the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► Leigh intellectual can't ever engage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► with the world in any way other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► just writing opinion pieces for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► local newspaper you know like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► that the Oracle just just just donating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► and just leaving positive comments that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► your your role in this is to participate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► in the machine that we've all agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► can't be changed like like we need to we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► need we are so siloed and so much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► culture of the cult of expertise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► some of those things absolutely require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► expertise like pediatric brain surgery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► and even i would argue referring to ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► Carson are you is that is that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► unintentional reference or do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4438">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► what you're saying they're uh what how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► is that what I'm just trying to function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► say that no I i I'm holding this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► relevant but I i went to the wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► page for Republican presidential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► candidates and at the current rate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► rate of the of sunday today's Monday as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► we record this and tuesday you have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► one person announce me third we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► another announcement forth and the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► is expected to announce on on May fifth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► and Carson the guy from a third author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► and former director of pediatric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► neurosurgery for Johns Hopkins is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► there is he holds some very strange view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► spend Carson's about how the world the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► world shakes out but he is an expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► pediatric brain surgeon for society did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► you really I don't know what I was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► it's a it's quite all right there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► you know I'm looking for role models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► everywhere million stories in The Naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► City yeah the guy that really knows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► to adjust the the boat the Quadrajet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► carburetor the Rochester Quadrajet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► carburetor on my truck has a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► expertise that is akin to restoring a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► Stradivarius but there are lots of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► jobs and I really do feel like CEO of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► 25-person company is one of those jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► and I know that that it you know i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► that that is that's going to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► some people mad but a specially growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► hackers just those people are wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► you know like every single friend i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► could be the CEO of a 25-person company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► every single one of them because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► takes awhile to figure out how what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► company makes and then it takes awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► to figure out where the company sits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► the in the landscape and then you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► to start figuring out how the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► can do better and those yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► that learning process what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► company make where does the company sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► that stuff should not be that difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► for a firm or normally intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► person to figure out and then we're how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► does this company get better and if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► company needs to grow to get better then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► that's one direction and if this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► does not need to grow but just needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► get better that's another solution but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► any reasonably intelligent person can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► address that step set of circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► and you know and move forward in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► interesting way anybody that I know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► be the CEO of a of a 40,000 person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► company at that point you are you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► to be a you have to be really good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► and flowcharts I mean you know yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► don't have so many complementary skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► that are always evolving and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► and the primarily are the primary one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► would be had know how to hire good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► people who write the to manage your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► divisions but 25 people working on a on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► a project if you are good if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► good person and not a not a megalomaniac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► you should be able to handle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► that project it's not it's not rocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► what about the part you said something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► earlier about that feeling of like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► getting up in the morning thing of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► climbing the mountain and hoping there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► something to be said for the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► are able to motivate people sight unseen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► on some kind of a goal that that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► that's not just delusional right how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► you mean motivate people so if you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► up let's say let's say you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► start up in boy i'm so glad we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► finally talking about startups but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► let's say you're at a growing company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► let's just say a small growing company a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► small growing company maybe save 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► people may be in the bay area got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► everybody's been producing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4678">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► sorry I said anything I already hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► no but I mean you're there is it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► like there's something to be said for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► like you know in addition to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► kind of the the change in the stress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► dealing with the funding and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► kind of stuff that ability to maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► the confidence of people who could very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► easily get a job anywhere else it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► like that would take a certain I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► see that taking a special kind of skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► even with up to 25 people because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► know you're kind of showing your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► credibility the company's credibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► everything's changing all the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► know what I mean maybe I watch too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► silicon valley but but that seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► that seems like like that is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► special thing to be able to do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► to have a high level of as we sandy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► know Constitution charisma be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► pull that off even if you're young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► my sense is that that now that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► business climate it does require those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► things because the because its a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► it's all about you know grow fast fill a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► niche niche keep nimble who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► sell hi everybody gets rich everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► motivated in that business by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► possibility the very real possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► that 27 years old they're gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► astoundingly rich all of a sudden one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► day and that's so different from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► actual business like you when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► about limes a really good point from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► home from from being just like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► example if you've got a business that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► maybe public but has been like operated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► by a family like just that disk that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► feeling of like how do I make sure I not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► screw up Mike what my what my mother and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► my father and my grandparents like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► they do I mean that constant feeling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► like they need something great now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► up to me to screw it up when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► about I mean there are people in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► world now who are practicing a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► kind of business right the guys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► start a company that makes bicycles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► they're making they've improved their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► design and they're making a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► bicycle and they're not thinking i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► nice win who i'm not i'm gonna get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► gonna make a million dollars they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► legitimately like reflecting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► world as it is insane i'm gonna go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► to doing something like manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► bicycles and that's going to be my peace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► of mind and I'm gonna have a quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► life and maybe there's a quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► differentiator in the bikes new charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► sustainable business based on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► that you care a lot about are good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► old-fashioned way of looking at business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► where you're not you know where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► everything else in your business that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► designed to ward the product and the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► and you know efficiencies are there eee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► eee try and make it profitable so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► everybody can make a living wage but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► increasingly this other style of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► business where it's like wow the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► sure I mean wewe haven't even really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► decided what the product is but we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► only knows where growth hacking it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► know but we have seven different layers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► of like sea level management and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► these day and already we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► looked at by these people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► thinking about you know flushing us with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► cash and you know maybe we'll make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► app that makes a bong when it turns off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► maybe we'll make a a speaker that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► can suction cup to your chest like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► are a lot of things we could be building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► we haven't quite figured that out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► that style of business is you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► like Bitcoin farming it's it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► that maybe is going to make you rich and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► it it takes up a lot of your day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► like you say it requires that you be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► charismatic and that you convince people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► but it isn't about really like making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► anything that helps anybody or making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► anything at all in some cases that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► interesting edge case though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► talking about motivation in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► though even though the motivation is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► me you know insane or or you know nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4914">TS</a>]
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01:22:02 ◼ ► players an industry to share motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4922">TS</a>]
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01:22:06 ◼ ► fast as possible i want all the money as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► and it's the vc's that are getting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► know nine ninety percent failure rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► because of the you know ten percent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► will pay off like they know they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► doing that because they like you they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► are doing that because they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► they're going to make a ton of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► from you right and that is why like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► libertarianism is the political a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► realm of choice for a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► people because they don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► because when they do hit the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► when the money does come pouring in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► they really do believe that they made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► out of thin air and that they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► anybody that they didn't you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► they're not part of a community that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► this genius level tier of of of Bitcoin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► farmers and and so you know I'm where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► we're seeing it in Seattle like Jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► Bezos really does believe that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► the streets were already there when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► yeah so he doesn't really have a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► of how they got put there or how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► are maintained but he doesn't care like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► the money he's making is because he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► Cassie question related to that as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► as how the campaign is going on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► people when you talk to people and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► have to imagine there are some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► who are like this is not plausible you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► don't have the experience whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► who the people you find most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► in terms of believing in what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► apart from just the the relief of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► somebody go i think that's that's doable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► and that's a good idea and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► who do you think of the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► or surprising people lining up to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► yeah this is a terrific idea we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► what's really cool is that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► initial sense of like well what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► guitar player wants to be on City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► Council he doesn't have the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► necessary we're the weird rock candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► it was doing a show at the rendezvous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► last year wants to be off on the City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► Council he doesn't have the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► and invariably when I sit with one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► those people and talk to them for a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► short amount of time they're like oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► are absolutely a great candidate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► this job and you you can't you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► absolutely do this and then they leaned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► in and they go but here's what you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► to know and then they start telling me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► similar thing to the TV producer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► you really need to dumb this down you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► hear the the words they use are too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► to spend a lot of time a really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► the word that i keep hearing his I da [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► ting you keep I da ting with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► thoughts storms and you really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► just have the three takeaways the bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► points the the quick and dirty and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► wreck and and I've been fighting it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► like I don't think in bullet points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► talking points I don't want to do it I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► I resistant and lately I've been hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► more new because i'm meeting a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► people you know I've been i spent all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► last week calling cold-calling lawyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► like powerful lawyers in town saying hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► I'm John rock I'm running for City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► Council you're a big-shot lawyer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► big-shot developer and I need to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► you on the phone I need you to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► heard my voice I need you to know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► name and I need to hear from you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► you think the problems facing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► bigshot lawyers and developers are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► town so that I don't go into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► gladiator contest unarmed and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► and they live it and they talk to me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► a little while they're like oh you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► are completely viable you know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► what you're the artist and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► talked for a while and they're like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► right well and then so then they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► their voices get softer and they leaned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► in and they say listen you need that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► need the bullet points like you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► can you can talk id8 all you want in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► between but you need to start every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5158">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► conversation with your three bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► points and every conversation with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► because that's all anybody's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► Wow and somebody said to me the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► day they were like it's like the chorus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► of a song can you get this through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► nobody remembers the verse everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► sings the chorus and I'm like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► fucking chorus of the song good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► let's see and ironically enough it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► perfect example of exactly what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► advising them take something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► really really difficult to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► let alone do and turn into something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► anybody kid especially somebody who's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► instantly understand it and repeat over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► and over and then when somebody's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► bus and they're like I'm voting for John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► Roderick and the person next time goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► they go ooh child isn't going to get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► easier you know like they sing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► chorus and then the person sitting next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► to him on the bus that's never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► think about it again when the ballot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► comes they're like oh that's right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► guy that sings ooh child although for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► him and so that part of the thing is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► but-but-but-but did describing that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► make it seem more palatable it still is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► against my nature even somebody even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► someone who has written a book of tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► i love to communicate in a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► forty characters but when somebody says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► what's your solution to the housing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► problem huh to give them a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► forty character response is an athlete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► to me right i want to talk about how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► housing problem is too complicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► solve with the tweet but and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► receptive to hearing that but they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► to hear the tweet also yeah and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► has been you know I've been talking to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► lot of experts and everybody is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► there's they're the people that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► talking to that were the most dubious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► about it are starting to realize like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► this is possible and make obviously i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► reading and learning by leaps and bounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► and so I do it every week encounter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► kind of moment where it's like I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► profession and also the language of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► so it's like I'm it's like i'm studying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► engineering and I'm also learning all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► day there was very well put right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► because they're because my engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► in schools in France yeah and lakes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► like I I'm enjoying every step of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► process and there are lots of places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► along the way where where I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► that the culture in seattle politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► especially is traditionally very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► incremental there's a lot of lip service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► liberalism where people are just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► course i'm a liberal look at this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► voted for this I voted for that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► imaginative you never stuck your neck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► out no one ever took a risk it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► you're just plodding along do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► interesting it's almost like being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► YouTube fan we go I've always been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► huge fan i remember liking them a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► and never occurred to me to not be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► youtube fan or to really question you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► know what I mean when I got back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► youtube but it's like you start to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► of yourself as a long time before I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► i'm still I think i would personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► like the guys in rem but i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► that many of their music like I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► be like well the date is the date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► Matthew story right now that's at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► gather round children the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► heard the first time people heard a Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► Matthews song they're like huh that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► interesting vocal style and that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► interesting song or two and he built a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► massive cultural movement by not ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► changing that even a little bit who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► write he never went he never picked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► an electric guitar he never made a scar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► record he never he never changed his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► name and put on a and animated and grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► a soul patch and made a grunge album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► that was he never forgot about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► you know what I mean like a like Taylor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► Swift will use to be a country star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► she's not anymore nobody even remembers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► that she was really limited but but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► Dave Matthews just keeps on keeping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► and i don't know how many records he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► made and I don't know if you could take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► if you took a song off the latest one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► and it's off the first one and put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► back to back i think they would sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► like they belong in the same not only in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► the same candidate on the same album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► to your point though and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► anything about Dave Matthews I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► mean to sound like I'm disparaging it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► just know he's got that big file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► unemployment goes yeah but-but-but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► your analogy I think you're onto this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► does something interesting which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► say like well I i never really paused to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► the one who like I was saying I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► paused at any point to consider how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► I really am still a fan but whatever of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► old stuff for the new stuff but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► that really that ultimately means that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► have not fully processed the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► information in order to realize that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► actually way more into it or that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► actually i may be thinking i should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► able to listen to someone else because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► it's very comfortable very comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► to say like oh this is I have every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► confidence that I'm a sloan family I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► haven't listened to that many new Sloan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► albums and been super into them since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► like 2001 yeah it's honestly I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► again there's always that like cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► trick they've got a great song on every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► record but I hadn't been bananas over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► new album of theirs in a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► even when I kinda IE i was still kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► like I'm really into Sloan so i must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► love this record even if I didn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► p.m. at at that is exactly what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► to people in their political process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► they're like this is how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► this is the tempo at which it moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► these are the people to whom we entrust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► this job and so change cannot possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► obviously these projects take years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► years of contentious you know budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► disagreements to even begin and and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► just sort of settle into this like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► this is I mean I've been a a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► loan fan for years and I'm just I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► I'm still Sloan fan like the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► there's no the the energy that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► required of you as a fan or as a citizen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► just sort of herbs and you just you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► coast and then every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► something comes along and forces you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► everything different all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► right and you know either make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► but also with the width and some private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► stating the obvious but also with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► the political part of what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► describing just to put a slightly finer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► point on it it is you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► the difference between how you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► self versus how you think people should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► cover which are so different it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► thing to go you know I I don't know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► always considered myself in rem families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► to buy the shirts like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► really have like a huge impact but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► just there's something that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► comforting about night I'm the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► person I'm a Dave Matthews sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► person I'm not a metallica sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► person or whatever and i think but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► you know I'm saying like it isn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► you're really pausing to think about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► the one hand like do I really like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► new stuff but maybe maybe further to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► point like do I really like their old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► stuff that much still is that okay like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► do you really want the Pixies to reunite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► because the Pixies today are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► make MIT Pixies are going to make music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► that's very different probably and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► it's not then is that leap forward for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► them when Rush started changing i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► really pissed when they are subdivisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► I was like this is not what rush it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► sound like roll the bones and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► become that guy like me in rem like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► really liked everything to live for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► letters pageant you know and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► government like there's a there's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► tendency for people to say of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► believe that you know of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► believe x of course I believe that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► we should house the homeless or of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► course I believe that we should regulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► the banks or of course I believe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► know of course but it's very hard to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► those things got that of course has so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► much wrapped up in if you really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► about it yeah right it's really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► really powerful in a not very good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► of course of course i'd love to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► like he said of course i'd love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► change this industry right call me back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► if you've ever got something better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► a TV show exactly right of is not of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► course it's not of course enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► i'm actually going to invest in it its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► of course enough that agrees with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► general compartment about life right of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► course black lives matter but boy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► know well what what are they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► asking John all lives matter a right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► it's it's just like that of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► allows people to say of course i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► liberal or of course I'm a a politically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► active or of course it makes you sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► main reason and and realistic that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► right really sound realistic as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► not going well you know because again we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► were you always almost always talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► about your talk about a shifter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► attention or you're talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► change in not priorities but sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► like what are we willing to spend on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► this in order to get this thing made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► what do we not spend money and time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► which is a huge difference between like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► an ideal world we'd all get to live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► cosplay Pinocchio or whatever like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► come up with these these bananas things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► and these and and all the saner heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► all the people who are like well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► hold on just a second there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► you know there's a budgeting process and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► you know I know this is going to be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► disruptive you know we can't even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► there are aliens living under the Arctic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► Ocean and they are controlling our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► everybody about it we have to go slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► it would freak people out and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► that's maybe a bad example as a gift was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► speaking as a canada is it is it haha i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► sound very realistic to me but the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► know that that idea not the idea but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► pose of of course i agree with you but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► am scene and we need to go slowly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► you're talking like you're talking to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► child and that is so much of what gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► done so much of the politics at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► local level at the at the national level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► is is done in that in that voice of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► it would it's gonna be like to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► reform the banks is going to be too hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► it just is so of course i want to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► me back when you have a dumber idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► a television show and he gotta take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► sometimes sometimes you have to say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5815">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► fuck you like it's and at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► follow me to the kid c and the and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► excitement of me of running for office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► it feels it feels like this is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► time in so many levels to just say no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► I mean I i said this the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► leaving my house though the market has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► informed me that my house which was 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► years ago worth 200 thousand dollars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► then seven years ago was worth four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► hundred thousand dollars and then five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► years ago was worth 200 thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► again and now it's worth four hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► thousand dollars again and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► telling me that that is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► sensible a like the market is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► adjudicator a lot obviously you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► doing something right haha you've added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► that value just by being there there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► wasn't really smart and that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► house with didn't have any value and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► then add a lot of don't get a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► there around 2008 you're really fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► stupid but now you've got a wire get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► John you are you gotta be super smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► now and it's basically like I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► playing roulette and that is what but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► none of us and we all go like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► crazy but what can you do about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► it's the market it's that it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► churches are one true God and the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► just tells us and then we end the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► isn't something that's not one guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► it's it's the whole it's everybody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► we just all decide and the feeling is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► that you're not naive you're you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► you're not naive enough to I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► your it would take a lot of naivete to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► everything up and it'll be really easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► and then how do you know what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► internal barometer for knowing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► furniture can still be moved around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► which which shouldn't be tampered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► and how do you decide between five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► things that could change potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► that's a big question pick whatever part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5938">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► you want but you know it seems like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► go into this you don't be a dummy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► you don't just going to go all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► I assume that i can change the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► way politics works right what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► I'm just gonna have to i'm just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► have to live with that because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► that part is not going to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► I mean at every step of the way they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► vested interests and there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► that are going to say you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► and there's and the thing is it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► talk about a city government right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► there the city is also inside of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► county and the county is inside of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► state and the state is inside of a of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► the country and all of those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► jurisdictions also have laws that apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► in effect the city and you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► say like i'm going to change the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► law out stuff that's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► you know where where where initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► when i first started talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► police I was like what the police should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► live in the neighborhoods they police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► that seems like a no-brainer that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► of like the old times right when the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► in Chicago swing is billy club walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► down the street in it in his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► well then i started reading up on and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► learned a few things one the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► Washington prohibits municipalities from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► requiring that the their officers live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► in their neighborhood you're kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► no because that was there was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► when the police union said that's unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► and you know and some of those cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► probably went all the way to the Supreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► Court you can't force people to live a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► certain place i had a conversation the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► other day with a dats cool really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► guy really cool kids they seem at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► comic store all the time they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► very cool and he just kind of offered up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► out of nowhere that oh no I we know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► would never he's like I work in Xyz city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► I live in San Francisco like I would use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► your cop cop living in the same town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► that he works in it was kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► spider-man thing it's like it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► be safe he feels like it's not safe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► live where you work right and that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► you heard that I think that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► that's crazy on the face of it but I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► what happened was the police said look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► we can't we're not making very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► money and we can't afford to live in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► in the city or you know there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► of arguments why you can't say if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► want to if you want to work here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► have to live in this neighborhood or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► something so but the state but that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► they took that to the state the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► made a loss so now the city can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► require that well then i started reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► you know reading up on the topic turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► out they've done studies of a of lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► municipalities some of them do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► rules that the police have to live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► some of them don't and the cities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► have that require their police to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► in the city do not have any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► police outcomes in some cases too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► radically worse police outcome oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► interesting wow what it turned out was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► that the biggest factor for improving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► your police is high-quality training of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► your police ideally in a transparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► glass building in the middle of town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► right without exercise your land that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► right and then they run through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► streets in a sweat say police trainee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► and they're sweeping sweeping sweeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► but but the but you know height right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► high quality training is where is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► you get good police and then you go oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► duh right of course high-quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► training it was matter where they live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► that's right and so you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► evilution of those of the evolution of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► my thought at least on that matter was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► really affected by the fact that I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► up against state law which was like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► well we've already we've already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► through this and if you want to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► the state if you want to if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► propose a law and take it to the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► and say we need to require the police to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► live in our cities you can go down that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► rabbit hole and if you win you win and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► if you lose you lose but our what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► want do you want the symbolic victory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► rat do you want to be able to say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► believe that that is going to work or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► or its first all that sounds very wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► but it's also like you're like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► you know guys I came back to think from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► a couple weeks ago I can't paint on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► like this is this is a real tentpole of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► my campaign I can't change even my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► about this right but a little my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► dedication it doesn't matter what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► right or wrong this is why I'm here i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► can read 25 studies about a thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► since I've gone out and said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► already I can't change my mind on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► going to make me look like a waffle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► then that case expertise is getting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6200">TS</a>]
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01:43:25 ◼ ► another if your schedule and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► politicians can't publicly change their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► mind and say I read some things I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► to some people that are smarter than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► about this now i have a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► opinion about it and the new thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► actually within our ability to do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► is to which is to require that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► police be trained at a high level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► and it doesn't require that we that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► change state laws what it does requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► that all the people out there who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► chanting force the police to live in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► neighborhoods you have to now convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► them who were formerly your allies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► you have every reason to believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► you've been corrupted by exposure to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► elements that made that impossible in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► the past this one and so you go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► your original constituents to do you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► look I guys i've learned some stuff I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► like you to read these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► they're like they feel like you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► sellout a trainer and you're like oh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► know i am i what what I want is a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► police department right same thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► want but now you've you know now you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► challenging the thing that you all used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► to agree just sounded like the solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► so that that process is like a process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► of maturation that requires that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► have some integrity inside and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► people the clarity also the clarity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► making make sure you fully understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► gets its good for you because you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► that's I can learn anything and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► good but also have to really clarify the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► problem statement like you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► the way to frame that to yourself and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► others will say like well you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► still matters for us to have a police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► force that does these following things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► and I've learned a thing here and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► you discover is that some people what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► they really just want to do is punish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► the police or punish the developers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► punish the banks and when you come you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► come back and you're like I looked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► this more and it turns out that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► thing that we thought was gonna really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► help us is like not as good a case as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► this other thing and it's a nightmare to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► administer yeah but people are like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► even though it doesn't work and is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► nightmare to administer it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► expensive it punishes them more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► that's what I want it turns out what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► want is to shame and punish the book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► the people that I think are the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► people thinking about you get so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► attraction with people in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► typically who runs for public office of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► the people that stand up and say I am so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► mad at the cement contractors big cement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► fucking cement contractors are pouring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► shitty cement and we are going to punish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► them and the cement contractors are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► well you know actually what we we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► to pour get some into it's just the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► contract stipulated that and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► just like shut up use contractors you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► gonna suck a tuba cement on my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► when I'm the Big Cheese around here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► yeah and then you get city government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► where those you know those people go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► into office that's why you have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► those conversations with people where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► they cut you know it's that Mitt Romney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► and the forty-six percent or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► his gaffe was when he gets around people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► that he thinks he can talk to ya all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► a sudden he's like all right we all know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► the deal right right right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► whole as soon as you are sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► office in here and you're talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► some people like with the Clinton thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► pointing at them with the Clintons I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► going we need the proper number and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6417">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► another group of people you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► really leaning in and casually sprint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► you know the real deal here right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► alien no attention to the thumb living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► under the Arctic ice cap and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► running our government through and child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► trails but we're not going to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► to people and it's like all sorry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► the bus boy was filming the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► and what up get no I believe my city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► council candidacy believes that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_TeZ0/6443">TS</a>]