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Ep. 156: "The Dumbest Guy I Ever Met"

 

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00:00:19   hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/19">TS</a>]

00:00:24   good how ru who I'm facing the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   myself a little southern lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   uh-huh is it hot down there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   California a Oh John Rother you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   caution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/33">TS</a>]

00:00:34   yeah it's a no-no it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/34">TS</a>]

00:00:38   like every day I should you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   could just take a sharpie and write 51 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41   uh I phone screen that's pretty much 51 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   51 degrees 51 degrees with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   breeze off the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48   yep yep yep yeah it's beautiful here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   Seattle because as you know global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   warming which is really climate change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/53">TS</a>]

00:00:58   let's see on its climate change we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   it we got it we gotta work on that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   turning Seattle into la jolla which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/62">TS</a>]

00:01:06   which is wonderful i love that name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   uh yeah la jolla home of dr. Seuss I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/69">TS</a>]

00:01:14   we're going to have a beautiful day here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   that's going to have sea lions in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   they're going to be a lot of surfers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/79">TS</a>]

00:01:20   are very protective of their Beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   locals only so so that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26   happening here and we're having a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   know we're having a great time property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29   values are skyrocketing and we couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   be more excited about it oh my god what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   a great time to be a Seattle ition mm oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   my goodness you we are we you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   administrivia we we were worried what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   could work in recording this week with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/101">TS</a>]

00:01:42   the with the with the holidays and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   nuneaton you know what you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45   you hit me hit me on my burner em I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   what time i went to wear that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/108">TS</a>]

00:01:49   that was ten minutes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/109">TS</a>]

00:01:50   boom I was like I was pulling into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   parking lot and I was like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   what's missing in my life you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   is missing right now is Merlin man oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   man i need the show and i pinged you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   being you know the thing is I've started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   to say like helping you what why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   you pick me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   ping ping ping ping and it's surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/126">TS</a>]

00:02:09   how many people get upset about the use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12   of the word ping it like being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   transitively paint they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/134">TS</a>]

00:02:15   bed do not want to ping they do not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   to deepen how do you on ping is nice in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/138">TS</a>]

00:02:22   one way arm thing is nice because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   exists without respect to how one pings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/145">TS</a>]

00:02:29   so that could you call could be an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   could be a text and then it has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   and problems of not having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/153">TS</a>]

00:02:34   specificity but I'm not uh oh geez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   Louise of all the stupid stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/157">TS</a>]

00:02:41   people say I ping is far from my biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44   well I did the reason I use ping who not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/164">TS</a>]

00:02:49   just because of its association with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   with a very famous panda bear but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/171">TS</a>]

00:02:55   because of time let's see one ping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/175">TS</a>]

00:02:59   Mowgli actually i finally saw that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   laughing like yes one ping only oh let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/182">TS</a>]

00:03:07   me leave may ask question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   thank you um first-time caller the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/189">TS</a>]

00:03:13   the process of going to probably should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   get straight to the campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16   oh geez Wow why don't we wait and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   save it for later I have a lot to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/198">TS</a>]

00:03:19   lot to talk about i have never looked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   to do you need to be many new chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   beetle beetle but by the way your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   identity kandice impersonation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/206">TS</a>]

00:03:27   impeccable shaman amo that's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   WoW building building the bundu gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/210">TS</a>]

00:03:35   a little bit bow i think it is with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   arms that's just disturbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   well I think about when you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/220">TS</a>]

00:03:41   the I mean I sometimes try to put myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   in to anthony kiedis and see the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/223">TS</a>]

00:03:47   through those eyes and imagine the life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/227">TS</a>]

00:03:51   that he led and I just feel so warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/231">TS</a>]

00:03:55   oh ok i'll write something down here um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   ok anyway so you want to jump you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59   to jump right in oh I also went out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   myself a little bit because for what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   mama call the autumn of 1988 i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/244">TS</a>]

00:04:11   liked the red hot chili peppers mother's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   milk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/254">TS</a>]

00:04:15   yeah if you see me getting mighty see me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   getting high right knock me down let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   down there was none bigger than life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   I'm not big on life that was good shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   it was really good and it had the truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   driver key change toward the end I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   mind that I think they earned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   yeah they did and you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   that's one of the things about rock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   roll right you a band comes up you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   like this is interesting this is novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   who who knows which direction y trap is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/277">TS</a>]

00:04:41   going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/281">TS</a>]

00:04:41   who it could go a lot of ways and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/281">TS</a>]

00:04:45   seemed like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   this might be the way I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48   punk and a punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/288">TS</a>]

00:04:53   they've sound a lot alike they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   very similar in the two great size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   mhm and there was a there was a quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   while there where like like punky punky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02   punky funk seemed like it might be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   might be the way to go i mean i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   very distinctly in early nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   ninety-one telling everybody I knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/309">TS</a>]

00:05:13   this like sludgy dumb heavy rock thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/313">TS</a>]

00:05:20   was really yesterday's news and what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/320">TS</a>]

00:05:25   what the music of the future was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   to be was upbeat jangly pop and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/327">TS</a>]

00:05:33   correct but it took ten years of sludgy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/333">TS</a>]

00:05:38   grunge to get to upbeat generally pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   yeah i mean with Rachel Paris it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   such a weird thing is they were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   were kind of their own thing for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/346">TS</a>]

00:05:47   they they had the reputation for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48   naked in wearing socks on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   Johnson's and stuff like that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   record store the well died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   oh yeah right that's why he wants to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   knocked down yeah i think it was a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   that was a shame but I'm and we traveled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   out of town for the weekend and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   Sacramento man they got a radio station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   there that I I didn't realize how much i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/367">TS</a>]

00:06:10   wish we had here which was like 10 1.1 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/370">TS</a>]

00:06:14   think it was and it was a you know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   of the like where the urban in urban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/376">TS</a>]

00:06:20   stations will have the throwbacks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   have like a disco weekend they had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   it was all like nineties mostly nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/383">TS</a>]

00:06:27   hip-hop and it was amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/387">TS</a>]

00:06:31   good stuff it was a lot of stuff that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/391">TS</a>]

00:06:32   was kind of tangentially aware because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   my eye I had peak hip hop in probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   1989-90 where I was just it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   almost all listen to it like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39   Pixies like dinosaurs like all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   listened to and but I you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44   wasn't like buying it and i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   bought the house of payne to set was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   like the last rap thing that i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   but it was it was so crazy because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   song after song after song a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   these songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55   had only heard sampled yes but Ben stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   i had heard in years like the changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/418">TS</a>]

00:06:59   chink chink dr dre and snoop dogg song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   that's a pretty good song it is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   like what far side i forgot about far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   side they were really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   uh-huh and what was what was the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   side was killer then there was a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   we're far side felt like that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14   future far side was going to be a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17   almost like picking up the mantle of De [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   La Soul in like you know what so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   don't have to play in the the kanye west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   kind of us that gold digger song it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   great tune for the first Laura Neil solo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/446">TS</a>]

00:07:30   record that's that's a bonafide classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   classic funny part is that here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   funny part so the signal starts fading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/456">TS</a>]

00:07:36   hmm you know we put more rounds drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   there and you know we heard everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/458">TS</a>]

00:07:44   everything all the words about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   particular band make me laugh Marcy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   Playground oh bummer and I I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   didn't realize when danger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   contemporaries yes in the year that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   didn't exist 1997 right they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   member there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/478">TS</a>]

00:07:59   my one candy rats male sex and candy be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/479">TS</a>]

00:08:04   really you do em especially like cells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   me like he have a like you have a CD of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   nirvana unplugged is what you smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   yeah I had shared a a shuttle bus ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14   with those guys one time from the hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/494">TS</a>]

00:08:17   to the to the festival and I find that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/497">TS</a>]

00:08:22   found them to be very smirky no no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   sorry like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26   yeah they were smirky my only point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   being it's it's funny how like Madeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   and I heard that song and were like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   know it's it really sounds kind of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/511">TS</a>]

00:08:36   like life on a broad unplugged nirvana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   unplugged specifically and really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   of win-win was this like was this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   like 93 94 97 97 years and Xavier did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/523">TS</a>]

00:08:47   insist they were step was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   yeah yeah what was not nearly as fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   as like you know dr. dre computing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55   you know not forget about him well and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   mean I i I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/538">TS</a>]

00:09:03   actually like literally having a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   stroke right now like I just said impian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/545">TS</a>]

00:09:11   went important it's not working i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   sure i'm much better I feel like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   I pop the stand with us are so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   because said ever since you mention it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20   I've been just sitting here with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   with the with the constant repeat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/562">TS</a>]

00:09:23   those who break the law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   go straight to the house of payne it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   just been shouting in my head and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   don't remember I don't remember having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/569">TS</a>]

00:09:33   having earmarked such a loud little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   place in my brain for that will just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   stored the track star like each you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/577">TS</a>]

00:09:41   then like digest you like / like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   thousand years 5,000 years like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   are these little people that the Sarlacc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   of my mind ate that I've completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   forgotten we're being digested and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   suddenly it comes popping up and go oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   my god it's just it's like you're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   again I had one of those this morning on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   the was coming into town I saw under a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/595">TS</a>]

00:09:59   bridge there was a homeless person had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   built a little sort of enclosure for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   themselves out of Thompson's and bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   and shopping carts and so forth and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   had a bicycle change to what to the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/608">TS</a>]

00:10:14   the handle of one of the carts that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   supporting their they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   elaborate housing construction and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/618">TS</a>]

00:10:22   bicycle was a very old specialized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/622">TS</a>]

00:10:28   was a bike i had once owned and as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/628">TS</a>]

00:10:32   drove past it just caught a glimpse of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33   this bike and I suddenly had this flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   back to nineteen eighty-seven it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/636">TS</a>]

00:10:40   early days of mountain bikes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/640">TS</a>]

00:10:45   wanted to buy a mountain bike and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   a friend but I didn't have any money so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   i had a friend who had a friend who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/649">TS</a>]

00:10:53   a cabin up at Big Lake in Alaska which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   is quite a ways from Anchorage up to big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   lake big lake was where all the like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   the rich kids their dads all had cabins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04   on big lake and you could fly up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05   in a floatplane or you could drive up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   there and it was one of the few lakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10   you could drive to right at most lakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   you couldn't but big lake was accessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   it was where the jet skiing happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   the water skiing so forth so I Drive up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   to big lake with my friend sheffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   Shepherd knows a guy who's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   mountain bike for sale and I get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   there and it's this specialized which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   was not properly a mountain bike but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   was one of those early early bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/692">TS</a>]

00:11:37   wasn't i remember being a pretty not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   cheap and pretty Hardy road bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   well it was so this was this had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   stand-up handlebars it was built to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   like a mountain bike but it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/708">TS</a>]

00:11:52   very upright riding position and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   it was it was before I don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58   remember this but early days of mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   biking there was a lot of question about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   what the frame geometry was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   eventually look like for mountain bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   there were there was some argument that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   a that when you spend more time riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/728">TS</a>]

00:12:12   uphill than down so the frame geometry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   should reflect a riding position that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   was like level if you were climbing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/736">TS</a>]

00:12:20   there was a lot of different radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   design ideas in early mountain bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   before it all kind of settled down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   the overall general frame and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/746">TS</a>]

00:12:30   like this was actually probably best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   described as a dad bike for but to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/753">TS</a>]

00:12:37   net mid-eighties eyes it looked like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   mountain bike because it had these q's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43   these visual cues the the straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   handlebars the knobby tires the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/765">TS</a>]

00:12:49   other things you know shimano components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/769">TS</a>]

00:12:50   all these things that I was excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   about and so the guy only wanted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   hundred bucks for it because he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   bought himself a proper mountain bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   and this was just a bike for riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   around town but I didn't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02   difference and I remember I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   buying the so but anyway the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   we did before any of the the negotiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   before any transaction happened the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   first thing we did was we all smoked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   ton of pot and then we were all really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   baked and this was at an age I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/797">TS</a>]

00:13:22   was always very strongly affected by pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   and.and I would get so stoned that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/805">TS</a>]

00:13:30   could not function in anyone in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/810">TS</a>]

00:13:34   right way I would just I would I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/814">TS</a>]

00:13:37   become incapacitated by being too high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/817">TS</a>]

00:13:41   and we got stoned and then we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/821">TS</a>]

00:13:45   negotiating a transaction which I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/825">TS</a>]

00:13:49   not I could not handle my half of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/829">TS</a>]

00:13:54   then I he said you know like here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   bike it's a hundred bucks and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/837">TS</a>]

00:13:58   does the door and he said do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01   take it for a test run and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/842">TS</a>]

00:14:03   yes and I got on the bike and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   understanding how mountain bikes worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   not ever having been on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   I assumed that you could just drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   anywhere on it and so I i wrote 15 feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/851">TS</a>]

00:14:15   up the road off the road into the ditch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   into what was four feet of standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/857">TS</a>]

00:14:21   tractor mud and in my mind's eye I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/861">TS</a>]

00:14:27   myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/867">TS</a>]

00:14:27   loading across the top of this tractor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   be settling a mean I wasn't as bad as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/869">TS</a>]

00:14:33   sounds it's worse on top of my new super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/873">TS</a>]

00:14:36   mountain bike I was just gonna like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   through this stuff a just just floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/878">TS</a>]

00:14:42   on top of it like a like a superstar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   I went right into this tractor mud end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/883">TS</a>]

00:14:47   owed over the handlebars just into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   bike into the mud so that you could only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   see the tips of my shoes and the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/892">TS</a>]

00:14:55   my nose and you have to know that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/895">TS</a>]

00:14:58   guys up a big lake they were like true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01   Alaskan mountain bike bro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   spike water-ski dudes and sheffer was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/904">TS</a>]

00:15:10   you know they all had Birkenstocks they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   all knew knew about all this stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/913">TS</a>]

00:15:17   and so I'm already i'm already reppin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/917">TS</a>]

00:15:21   that I can't hold my weed because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/921">TS</a>]

00:15:25   too baked and everybody can tell them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   baked and I don't know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   mountain bikes and then i go over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   handlebars into the by just i rode down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   the hill into a thing where any normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36   sensible person would have looked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/936">TS</a>]

00:15:37   said what are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38   we don't go down what do you think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   then just splat right and there it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/940">TS</a>]

00:15:45   that they're trying not to laugh it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/945">TS</a>]

00:15:48   so stupid is even funny like think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   they're not it's not that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   laughing they are they are seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   like what is wrong with this person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   then I think they get me out of the mud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   they clean me off I'll take it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   they said somehow we're all standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   around right and we're gonna go well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/965">TS</a>]

00:16:09   think i think still too although now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/969">TS</a>]

00:16:13   wet and cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14   we're gonna go out on their boat for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/974">TS</a>]

00:16:18   minute and somehow I screw up their boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   like I got in the boat wrong I i sat in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/981">TS</a>]

00:16:24   the driver's seat and turn on the engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27   Milton there wasn't any gas in it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   decided I burnt suddenly the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   boat is the boat motors smoking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   everybody's yelling at me and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   i'm not proud of my performance that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/996">TS</a>]

00:16:40   and i remember that i remember these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   guys looking at me and like one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   saying like you know you like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   dumbest guy I've ever met and and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:52   amazing about it is that those guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   still alive probably they're no older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   than I am there in the world somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   these two guys in their mid forties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   probably living in Alaska and if my name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:06   comes up in conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   those two guys have a have one really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:11   fantastic story about what an idiot I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:15   and they're not wrong I i am in in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:21   respect the dumbest guy either of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   two guys ever met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   wow so that was what I was that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   my little like I'm glad to know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   stored that whole very hazy story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:34   somewhere in my head to come out at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:37   suggestion of this specialized bike that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40   I caught out of the corner of my eye on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   that so that and that Augustine flashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   back it all just the entire thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   you know and I'm i think I'm i think i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   confusing it with another time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   Peter no second i went up to big lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   and and also got into trouble and pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:58   much every time I went to Big Lake I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   in trouble with somebody and i realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   i needed to just stop going to big like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   it wasn't that was not ever going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   my scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   uh-huh i went to a party at a cabin one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   time a big lake and I showed up and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   were all the people that had gone to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11   high school but they were all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12   beautiful ones and for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   that day for some other reason I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:19   sure why but I chose to wear a tuxedo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   and I showed up at this lake cabin where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   everyone else is in bikinis and James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:28   remember jams of course I did yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   everybody's in jams and bikinis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   they're all jumping off the dock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   they're all like jet skiing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   everything very very Alaskan version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   like beach blanket bingo and jen you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   in there in the rat pack and I'm there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42   and I'm you know I'm just like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   probably 25 pounds over my my normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   weight and i'm wearing a brown tuxedo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   and you know and I had long hair and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:55   was just like that people were walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   something front and we'll acted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00   looked like Brian Wilson but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   have the good sense to either stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   the car or drive back to the town where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   ever I walked right down on the dock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   so I'm standing on the dot i'm standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   on the dock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   it's an Abercrombie & Fitch ad all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   around me and it was one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:16   i used to get this used to be true all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:17   the time my mere presence in the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:21   bummed everyone else and like about come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:25   on really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   my mere presence there made sure that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:29   one was going to have sex that afternoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   because everybody suddenly lost the mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:34   and so that you know like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37   dudebros we're looking at me like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   just like get out of here or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42   like just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   I don't know go for a walk down the dirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   road or something I'm like what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46   mean I that when i was also smoking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:51   a you know and probably like drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   whiskey out of a milk bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56   everything about it was meant for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1196">TS</a>]

00:20:01   for from another place and and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:04   a place that did not exist maybe a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:07   that would never exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   oh god it's so brutal all i have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:13   is just see this this bicycle on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   street today and it's all they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   waiting for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   there's nobody there who kind of pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19   you aside and go you know you needed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   couple of these interesting expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   and things even met one just maybe leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   those on the counter next nobody could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   nobody could because because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   wasn't a single other person at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29   party I mean my friend Peter loved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   take me places where he could turn me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   loose like the elephant man he he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   loved he loved you know Peter was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   Peter was was he had a good sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:43   what to do how to handle himself he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   not like ever the chicest person but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   knew how to be at any party and seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:53   like he belonged there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:54   alright um and what Peter loved to roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:59   me into places and turn me loose and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:03   was and and and people at the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04   would be like who in five who invited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:08   this gorilla and it and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   Peter was happy to claim responsibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:12   but but never but somehow was able also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:17   to disavow all my crimes right so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:21   could he could take credit for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   brought this monster to the party but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   was not his prayer was but I mean he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   chased out of a lot of parties to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   but anyway as my chaperone but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34   it's different to i don't know i may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:39   different kind of thing but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   there's this certain kind of feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   were and I am I had when I especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   like junior high and so high school I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   was so freaking weird because I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   wanted to be weird but I didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   that the look I was coming up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   wasn't really pulled together too well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   and it combined too many disparate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   elements and you know this it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   sort of always feel like I never quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   knew how to comb my hair to make it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   like other people's hair even when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   wore what you know theoretically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   same kinds of clothes other people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   didn't look right i still look like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   and in like it's what I would just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   would kill for that ability to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   an average person at an event and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   feel like a like a bizarre social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:18   me too and particularly when when young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:22   people started to make out with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   other and want to go make out with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:25   other and want to go have sex with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   other like I had a perverse pride in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   being the the last man standing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:34   here in ER you're in a room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   everybody goes off into the into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   dark back corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   it's what you want the saddest game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   musical chairs yeah and I'm sitting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   there you know i'm sitting out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   going through the their parents jazz LP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   is going wow this is a very rare record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49   this this is an extremely rare album we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53   heard you just below her chick low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   anyway if never felt that never felt a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1376">TS</a>]

00:23:01   net because because then you know when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:05   started to hang out with weirdos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   I hoped that the weirdos would that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:11   find my found my people but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   that's not true either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   you know I just still can't eat those in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   a methodology even to being a weirdo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   like being a weirdo in there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   yeah yeah and the weirdos want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   make out with each other and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   desperately wanted to go make out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   somebody i just did not know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:32   affect that I never felt like I had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   access to that I mean people who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   just meet at a party and make out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41   then go their separate ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:42   I mean I might as well like wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   sprout wings that seems so foreign to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   yeah yeah particularly when you could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   arguing about LBJ in the well and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:55   of times arguing about LBJ in the mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:58   because you couldn't find anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   to argue about LBJ with you and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   field you know the few times where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   would be at a party there would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   attractive woman there we would start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   talking we would start talking about LBJ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   she would be really smart on the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:14   of LBJ that it made it somehow even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:17   worse i would i would have to throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   myself off the balcony to get away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:22   fascinating charming woman who wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   talk about LBJ with me so case you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   have just been like a temporary safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   harbor at the party like somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   talk to and not feel hassles or not feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   you know well no she was chief had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   finally found someone to talk to about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   LBJ to only on anything more tragic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   all the more tragic that then i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   run out and as I was running out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:45   last decision i made as I was running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:46   out of the house was to steal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48   everybody's shoes right so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51   never I never given just ran out i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:54   took everybody shoes and then was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   remembered for the rest of its subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59   weaker arrested up the year right as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   that fucking guy who was told everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04   shoes that are fat guy in a brown tuxedo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:07   is stuck in the film everybody shoes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   was you know he was talking to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:11   other weird girl for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   then he stole everybody shoes including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   hers like didn't even and didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:18   anything with him just put him in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19   trunk of his car and drove around career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   like there's just no and I have to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:24   have to say that it because i went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   kindergarten when I was four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   yeah and if I had waited a year maybe my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:31   whole life would be different maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   would have been so much better if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   just spent that extra year being a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:40   you you are me maybe kidding but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   about that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:44   mhm and it was instrumental in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   decision to have our kid a holdback we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:51   redshirted her every year I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   powerfully not kidding i feel like if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   had been if I'd gone if I because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   were kids I mean I had a good friend in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   high school who was in 11th grade when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   was in 12th grade and he and I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   exact same birthday and yeah he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:08   Rico suave in his own grade and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:14   mean but by senior year I had figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   out a way to be a part of the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:20   the culture and part of the class and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   be somebody who mattered but uh but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:26   was not ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   mature enough to to play the reindeer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:32   gayness you know what I mean I kill him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   but you think about like even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   looking normal I think about I've told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   you before I think I really see this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   5th graders at my kids school because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   it's kindergarten to fifth grade and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   thing is the the standard deviation on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   maturity and fifth-graders is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   short of mind-boggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   there are a couple couple guys but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:55   especially they're like these three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:56   girls who are obviously like in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   of the school and to these girls were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   taller than I am and they look about 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   and they're in fifth grade and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   course there are there a lot of kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   just random kids with boogers and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   there are some fifth graders my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   my daughter is taller than and she's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   first grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   it'sit's so you think about that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   even if even taking that into account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   but then imagine adding or subtracting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   year from that and you can see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20   completely bananas that can get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:23   if it you know ways against you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:26   the funny thing is like my kid this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   her last week of school she's in for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   ending first grade this week and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   her fifth year of being in school which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   I sometimes think about and I think how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   how strange and different that is then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:39   when I was a kid where she had three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   years of preschool we had heard you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   graduate year in preschool and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   the year we gonna say hey you know still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:47   we love this place we really like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   she was kind of shy you know and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   thought I you know my daughter my uh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   wife started school on the early side i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   started going the late side and we both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   agree that i had the better deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58   everybody i know he started later I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   know I think there's a thing today of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:02   like we should put your kid harder put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   your tiny little four-year-old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   kindergarten whatever that's everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   personal choice like if your kid can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07   read really well and therefore it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   like a no-brainer don't hold him back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10   but I think about that now and like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   like when I was a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   this I must be honest you stayed at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18   with your mom mostly or with a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19   member i did not know that many kids who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   weren't Catholic that went to school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   before kindergarten almost all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   Catholic kids went to preschool or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   nursery school as they called them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   know what i mean so much I mean now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   think about oh my god it's no wonder it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   was such a weirdo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   I was at home with my mom all day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   and play my parenting my own little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39   personal reindeer games and talking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   the mirror about LBJ and then the hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   Here I am and I was a good reader and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   stuff like I was a smart kid but I show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46   up in fifth grade and I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:48   well I remember just feeling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   everybody here I've said this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   also but I really feel like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   here got a manual that I didn't get have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   no idea how to conduct myself with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   other kids i have no idea how to how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   scrap for status even in kindergarten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   and now I mean it's weird because I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   that the truth is that those three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   of school really good thing for my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   she showed up in kindergarten and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   kind of already knew like how a day goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   it seems like it seems I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   criticizing but like that's I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   don't know I feel like I could use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:17   I really could have used a remedial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18   course on how to be a little kid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   that would have that would help for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:22   beginning my god it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   yeah I a remedial course in how to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   little kid I think I still would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   benefited from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   my second year in college oh well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   know the thing is you're kind of by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   time on I'm this broad numbers here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   i think by the time if you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   relatively stable home life and like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:43   relatively you know stable normal public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   school i think by 3rd or 4th grade most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:49   kids know how stuff should work like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:52   pick up an awful lot when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   little kid and if you choose to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   something different from what's expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57   of you you do so with full knowledge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   what the consequences or you know ups or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02   downs of that are but I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   latent period where you get you just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   so goofy for a while and then maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   come back and maybe like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   sophomore year of high school I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   got it together or whatever like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   kid is different but you're totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:14   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   second-year college is a bloodbath I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:18   feel like I feel like my sophomore year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   in high school was the first one where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   started to kind of get it together but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   remember in grade school through to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:28   kids one when I was in grade school in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   Seattle like fourth grade and he was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:35   was small but the girls loved him and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:41   was you know quiet and smooth and cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   right he he was like the kid in Bad News [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:49   Bears that drop the motorcycle who he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   wasn't he wasn't bad it wasn't good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   he was cool man in fourth grade I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1855">TS</a>]

00:31:01   and I was big even then and loud even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:05   then and I i remember going over to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:10   house a couple of times he was nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   me but there was there was cool in him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:17   that was never gonna rub off on me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:22   he was comfortable in it he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   comfortable with 4th grade girls but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:28   wasn't you know he wasn't playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:32   them he wasn't playing house with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35   he was already cool enough that they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:40   crushes on him a whole different a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:44   different concept like it better like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   he's got a certain kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   surprising amount of agency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:50   yep yep he was you know he liked talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:55   his parents i don't i'm not sure if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:56   called his parents by their first names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   but it felt like that in his home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   there was just like he was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   self-possessed in a way that I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   be four decades and then when i moved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   Alaska there was a another little boy he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   was very small compared to me and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:15   know like his name was Brian nominee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:19   a lorry basler loved Brian nominee and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:25   love Lori basler and there was this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:29   the this is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   it caused me to not like Brian nominee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:35   even though brian amy was perfectly good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1955">TS</a>]

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00:32:43   Lori basler he just was himself cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:48   small and blond and had long straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   hair parted in the middle that he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   with a goodie comb and he was good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1973">TS</a>]

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00:32:59   he wasn't pushy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   he was just cool and I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1981">TS</a>]

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00:33:06   understand what Larry Bosler saw him I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/1986">TS</a>]

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00:33:36   better for me in my life but I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2016">TS</a>]

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00:35:08   criminal named Carrie colomer yeah she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   had a twin sister sharing sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   kerikeri and sherry colomer dar I oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2112">TS</a>]

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00:35:19   wrote the name Carrie colomer over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   over i can i can only imagine i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:24   close like this close but i just i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   i wasn't i wasn't in her League and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   know and the thing is what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   describing partly as you you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   get this certain stink on you maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   in the literal sense but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   certain kind of like we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37   cool like we know who's a Paragon cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   maybe Miles Davis like what is cool cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   is like you say agency being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   self-possessed and it is not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:47   that the thing is acting like a hipster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   doofus is really negative about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   everything is is a kind of a reflection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   or shadow of cool but the real cool is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:56   someone who's their own person that's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   me that's what cool is I mean to captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   beefheart is cool in in his way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   there's a lot of people were really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03   like but I mean like the things in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   sense you and I are very cool but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:08   right the mascara snake it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:11   just that kind of cool in fifth grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   anyway I still refuse to put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   headphones when i record i just listened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   to vibrations but you know buddy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   here's the thing i'm trying to get at is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   that like I do in my parlance like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   spent so many years trying to solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   wrong problem but the problem that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   wanted to solve was why can't i make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   girls like me or like you know it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:34   out as simple as like why don't why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   aren't all girls into me like I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   I i have lots of trading cards and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   really cool but then that becomes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   more like functional like how do i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   girls to like me which is like a hold of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   in so many ways that horrible it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   understandable question but it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51   right question like the the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   question which would never occur to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   for many years was like how do I become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   a more interesting version of myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   like how I actually increase my nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01   element selection community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   how do i increase increase my value i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   guess like but you don't say like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:06   you really look at and make people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   got you've got you've got them even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   you're even if you're working with a six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:11   you don't have a wingman you gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   in there and neg you're learning your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   learning John megam you know I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   my case the thing that I needed to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   and the thing that I still have that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   that my whole life I needed to learn was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   just Shh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:25   leave it leave it and I just needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:33   learn that when I was four when i was 14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   when I was 40 benefit but maybe in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:42   relationship and yeah okay cupcake with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   a designer but what is the others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   institutions change if I could have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:50   ever ever ever managed just shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:55   everything would have been fine i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58   couldn't believe i didn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   shushing Anna I'm very wise wise a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   partner at one point and she said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07   something about about makeup and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10   said here's the thing take out take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   all the makeup you want to use put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   the counter and then put half of it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   and that's how much makeup you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   use right and that goes for so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   things in the physical world that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21   for hair gel that goes for alcohol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   because for so many things take out all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   you think you want then put away half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   and just use that half and stick with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   and like it that is so true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:32   like in life you know like because part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35   of it is like when you go when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:36   a good party lucky if you get the brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   tuxedo or you can have the milk bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   full of whiskey or you can steal the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   shoes but but you don't want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   carny right right so it is like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48   right though it's a simmer down you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   just slow your roll little bit and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   you don't like I'm talking to me now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   like you don't have to tell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   everything you know about the making of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   Tommy let's keep some of that for later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:01   you don't have to talk about everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   you know about tom seaver like let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   you know this let's sit on that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   more to talk about next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   yeah yeah for me I think it was well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   obviously I do not I do not look like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:15   abercrombie & fitch model and so I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18   better wear this brown tuxedo because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:21   that is very very good armor it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:26   super armor against anybody ever wanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:30   me to take off my clothes and jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   the water and i also hate being in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:37   brown tuxedo and a swimming party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:38   so I had better be drinking whiskey in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:42   copious amounts but I'm not just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   stand around drinking whiskey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   I'm gonna drink whiskey out of a milk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   bottle because fuck the world and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:53   I'm gonna steal everybody she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:54   because i'm really in pain and put a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:58   of game and I and all i could think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01   to do is steal their shoes because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   can't you know I can't fight them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04   there's a distinction that last people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:08   making different ways and I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   really differ from a lot of my my good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:13   smart friends in this one way but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   always I've come to feel that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   distinction between being a geek and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   being a nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   it may have to do a topic but i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   has to do with degree and self-awareness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   in some ways like an eighth another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   that's an important distinction but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   my head it's one thing to be a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   about something like your kind of a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31   about LBJ right you can be a geek about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:34   Tom Seaver like you're somebody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   maybe like even like a surpassingly high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   level of interest expertise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:42   knowledge especially interest about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   thing but you know you really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   talk about it but that by itself doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   make you a nerd i think what makes you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   nerd in you know the negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   connotation is that having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:55   insensitivity to how much other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   care about your geeky topic and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   that that's the part where you go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:01   being you know you come up with any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   of disparaging name you want but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   one thing to be really into stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   collecting and nobody ever finds out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   it's another thing to like buttonhole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   somebody at a party and tell them about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   you know every kind of stamp that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   ever seen and what it's called and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   correct them when they get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   wrong and all that kind of stuff and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   really i think it can be very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:20   don't you see being yourself in that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23   that's definitely true for me and and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:27   a fellow digger in John Roderick I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   might appreciate I think part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:30   like when you get pushback from somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   your inclination is not to go that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   good note i should i should i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   leave it it's more like you dig in even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   further like you haven't made your case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:40   like that's what i do is so no okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   I'm sorry probably explain this well let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   me really explain the Tom Seaver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   situation to you and that's when let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:49   that's when you become that's when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   become a nuisance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   because you're insensitive to what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:55   is happening in the room and now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   no longer self-possessed now you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   a weirdo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   you know years later or maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:06   years earlier i don't remember i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:09   i'm getting confused now but no it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:15   about the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   wait a minute what we talked about here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   we're talking like ladies ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   ok I was downtown in Anchorage on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:26   beautiful summer day and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   Anchorage's in full flower in the spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   and summer there's really no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   beautiful place because they're hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   baskets of flowers everywhere it's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37   of Anchorage's it's part of Anchorage's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:41   identity that when spring comes everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44   hangs baskets of flowers everywhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   so you have just this proliferation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   flowers and because the Sun is up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   day like flowers just go crazy and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54   was downtown was walking on Fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57   Avenue right by the fourth avenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   theatre right by you know right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   center of town and I bumped into some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   friends and i'm standing and talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   them and a little group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:06   gathered there and we're all out of high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   school now we're in college and we feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:11   like the young people who are the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   generation of young folks and this girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:21   that went to a different school but whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:25   I'd met at debate competitions she went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:32   to diamond high school her name was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   Debbie and she was the star of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   Diamonds debate team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   and she comes along and and we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:44   standing there and and chatting with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   another ended and she was with a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   of a friend and so that's it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   where a group of people in our I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   we're probably 20 and debbie smith and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:59   started talking and we break off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02   the rest of the group and debbie smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05   is half she'sshe was she is a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:08   Japanese and very very very very smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:14   person that I will had always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   impressed with her at debate meets she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:20   was like very together and i was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:23   unimpressive at debate meets because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:26   debated kind of like I talk to you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   which is to say with no preparation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:33   I understood Robert's Rules of Order but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   beyond that i believe that i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   debate any topic just on the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   like flip a coin and go style and Debbie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:44   was very prepared and she and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:48   wandered off from this group and pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   soon we had arranged to go on a date and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:57   we went on a date to see the movie born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:01   on the fourth of July so whenever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   movie came out that is when this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:04   happening after feels like making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   mediator some somewhere around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   yeah and then she and then we had a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   time on the date and we went on a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   date in the entire time I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:14   what is going on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   debbie smith is one of the very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:20   popular together people and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:24   realized that she went to diamonds so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   she didn't know anything about me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:28   somehow to her i seemed like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:34   one of the good people i seemed like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37   of the abercrombie & fitch people maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   or it was very confusing but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:44   enjoyed her i was just overthinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   you know that this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   moments where somebody should have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   said she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:51   just like just be just be with debbie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   smith because as much as you're aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   that it's a fresh start your also still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   kind of mentally recalibrating like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   don't screw this up like you screw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   don't screw this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02   do not screw that you're gonna screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   this up and then she and I like liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:07   each other and we made out and we made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:11   out again and then it was wonderful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:15   there was this and this was happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   the summer so what could be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   and then she invited me to a party at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   her house and I was like I can't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23   you know of course I'll come to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   party and I came to the party and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28   believe that I probably wore a bow tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   because it was a party and I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:35   person i was a person who understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   that if you're invited to a party where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   about I at this time and I showed up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:42   all of the fashionable people were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   and when I arrived it was clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:49   none of them realized that I knew Debbie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52   Smith there was no reason I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55   known her and they and so honestly I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:59   out of my car and I bumped into a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   I'd known for years and he had a look on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   his face and then said just get bully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:08   blurted out like what are you doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:12   like how did you get in here and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:17   like uh and and I'm thinking to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   I'm Debbie's I'm Debbie's boyfriend or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:24   like close to it and so I had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:29   strange this strange feeling of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32   belong here more than all of these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   people but I but at the same time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   don't and she was really glad to see me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   and came over and I'm standing there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:42   everyone is staring at me like why is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43   here why is she being affectionate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   him all of this is wrong and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:49   started drinking now now because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:54   all I could it was all I understood to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   do even though she was being cool with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   you you're really uncomfy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59   she was great i was really uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02   standing there because I knew all of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   friends and I knew them to be people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   understood that i did not belong there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   and they were like trying to communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:14   to her like what does he do what he why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   are you with him stop and I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   seeing all this I'm not imagining it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   she's like what are you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21   he's great like we you know we went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   the you know he knows all about LBJ and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:27   I I knew that she was good and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:33   the connection that we had could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34   survived this because we she was growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   out of that crowd anyway she was headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   on off on her own path we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   headed on our own path this was all old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44   stuff that we were capable of shedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:48   but I started to get drunk because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   terrified and was already at a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   when you're we see said from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   beginning you're cognizant that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:57   wasn't never going to be a one beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   night for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:00   oh no and in a situation like this where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   it was just like uh you know i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   to show everybody and I got drunk and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:09   a certain point you know drunk I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   like I confronted Debbie and said did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:15   you just invite me here to to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:20   embarrass me she was like what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   talking about she had no idea my history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:26   with all these people and because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   sort of moved in that circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   effortlessly she didn't understand she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:34   didn't see them as as exclusive she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:40   didn't see them as people who would shun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   somebody for being fat or for being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:49   nerd or for stealing their shoes you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   wearing about time for wearing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   time like she thought that the boat I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   was charming she didn't understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:57   they saw it as a further example of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   i did not understand how to fit in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   was never going to and and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:06   whole thing just the whole thing just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   turned into his disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   and you know and Debbie wanted she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   wanted us to go to get it get away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   those people let's go upstairs and let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   just and I was and I had I had so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:19   baggage that I was the you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:23   the one that that turned it into a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   turned it into a scene between us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:31   how I was never gonna you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:35   never gonna be somebody that she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   like and she was like I'm not asking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   to be anything and it was it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42   terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   all this because i saw that stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45   bicycle under an overpass today I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:49   now I'm reliving 1988 at the last year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   possible after I would ever want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   relive I just so much stupid shit nation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   8800 if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   let's see if i get erased three years if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02   they did they'd be continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   no I think you can raise three years out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   of your life ok any three years ago man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   that's going on um what's yeah well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:12   not always a word this I mean a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   terrible decisions in 1988 I've I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:19   to level up as a grownup in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   ways that year and failed colossally in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   ways that i didn't actually learn much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   from people who want to learn from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   mistakes i think that's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   geography I was just down just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30   don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:30   okay you pick one up another one uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33   let's see 87 write a seven any paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:40   either then so I can't think of a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:44   year to erase the 1988 if I could have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47   do-over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:48   uh-huh 1988 would be a really yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:52   really good year to do over and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:57   for for my second choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:01   I kind of feel like you know maybe 2008 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:07   oh is that by ear for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10   yeah it was just like a year that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:14   feel like i could have done I could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   done so much more in 2008 yeah I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:22   take I was gonna say 79 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23   and I think I'm gonna go with 1980 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   maybe 2009 where I don't erase it but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:29   wish i could get into over on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   yeah maybe 2,000 maybe what I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   2008 it's actually 2009 is what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:36   but you know I feel like it i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   we should I feel like we should agree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   three years later strength in numbers so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:43   88 2009 and then we have to pick one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:47   more year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:48   why 1980 1982 was more uh I was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:52   victim of circumstance in 1980 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   that's the 79 is when my mom remarried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   nothing gets me my mom is making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   best decision she could she marry marry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   this guy who turned out to be awful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   we moved to Florida from Ohio so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   know I went to military school a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:08   pop music was cocaine e a lot of very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11   memorable get your home notes and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   but 1984 me was was a very tough I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:17   it was it was the year without a clutch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   I mean it just felt like all the gears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   are grinding so hard work if every if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   everything in my life had been perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   you know I and like I was if everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:30   had supported the kind of person i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:31   needed to be it still would've been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   hard year because i was 13 but given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   what I was up against it's the year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   kind of gave up on life in a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   in a way that would dog me definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   through high school that I really feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   like I didn't I never completely came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   out of it but I didn't really come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   of it really until like I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   college was kind of forced to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   reboot and I did have that fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   opportunity to to be like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55   helps to get help so I went to a school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   was okay to be a weirdo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   we're actually I was not a weirdo I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   a pretty you straight normal kid but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03   that was anyway that's my 1980 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06   I you know I know if we said if you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   the 80 81 school year nineteen eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:12   starting in September and i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   affection or attachment to that at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   well I i could join 481 let's do 81 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   let's do September in September 8081 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:23   over and I'm done with you a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   percent that was seventh grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   yeah and seventh grade was no oh good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:31   now I i I'm pleased to see some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:35   interesting uptake in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   I thought technology around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   junior-high concierge services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   uh-huh uh-huh well there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   opportunity there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   I you know and all this it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   when I when I talk about a do-over mi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:50   I'm very curious to know like whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   that do over would be if if we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   to allow if we're going to appeal to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   to the parole board and say do-over on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   81 school year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   are they going to say ok all its just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   alternate universe John and Merlin your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   view there it's still it's still your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   your dumb seventh-grade brain Ryan just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13   you just get it you know we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   going to set you in motion like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   seconds later so it's a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:19   different version reason but yeah give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   me a crack about this on Twitter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   other day about wishing you could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   back and like you know with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   stuff you know now after yeah right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   mean that's the thing like if I could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   back and be my own concierge and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:35   know and every week have a sit-down with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   myself and say listen here and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   we're gonna I don't think we can allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:40   that I think it's a reset of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   timeline i think maybe result of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   time later can you actually go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   inhabit your earlier self i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   so i well I think well here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   i think you have to go back with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   same knowledge and stuff that you had at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:52   the time I think maybe you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   inhabit like an african-american janitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58   who gets to give you wisdom sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01   oh you're saying that you're saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   that there's a morgan freeman character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   yes but only putting this message on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:06   what if what if in the timeline that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09   actually that we know of that already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:11   what if you already had gone back there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   and you just didn't listen to morgan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   freeman because you thought you had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   all wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:17   well here's the problem i have known you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18   would you know if your morgan freeman i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:19   know for a fact that no Morgan Freeman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:22   ever deigned to give me advice I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:26   starved for adult advice and and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:29   single like that God maybe maybe should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:32   leave the boat home every single God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   character in my story was busy talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:37   to another kid because I I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:41   I'm walking by in a brown tuxedo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   they are you know and they're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44   somebody to improve their golf swing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   a completely different episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   no one ever stop me you know the ND and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   the teachers that I had that we're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   they didn't understand I mean a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   them were younger teachers who who felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:04   like the way they needed to approach me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   and and deal with me was to how do I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:13   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   like I was so precocious that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:18   the adult response was often like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21   think you're pretty cool don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:22   oh you like you're like they're like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   little dog and you're like a rat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   like threatening to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27   yeah yeah and-and-and their best you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   know they had the best intentions which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   was to say things aren't what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   they are I think you know the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:37   isn't like you think it is but the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   that they approached me was always that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   always in that tone of like hey mr. cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:46   why don't you sit down and listen once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   in awhile and stop being you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   it was very they were trying to be teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:55   you know they were trying to communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   with me i remember i remember at this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:01   gonna sound terrible but I had a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:04   school teacher who pulled me aside I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:08   have told you about this high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:09   teacher who pulled me aside and said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   was in the teachers lounge the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13   we were talking about you and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:16   really what would say what and he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:21   well you know I was talking to the shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   teacher about you and we both agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:25   that you that you probably get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   tail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:29   am i right whoa whoa and I was a virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:34   and yet my response was hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:42   well I mean you know i'm not one to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:46   out of school and he said that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:50   thought that's what I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   am i right am i right that's so weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   and I was like to totally I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:57   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:57   yes and also haha and also who and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:02   was trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   a connection with me but he had read my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:09   blog stir and this at this was true of i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:13   think a lot of people at my school had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   read my blaster and my confidence in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   fact that that uh you know that i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   have a lot of friends that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:23   I was a kid that teachers were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   about in the teachers lounge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   he had read all that incorrectly which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   is to say he read it as I was projecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32   it rather than seeing through it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35   he will you know he wanted to be my pal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:40   and yet in that moment like i couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:46   have felt more estranged from him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49   because now I'm are now I am conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52   of I I'm conscious of adults seeing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:57   as a as a player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   as a as a player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   mhm and I was desperate at that time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   somebody to put their arm around my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:04   shoulder and say your virgin right cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:08   so she just Shh like just cool it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:13   it's fine it's good to be a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:17   still and you can do that and just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:20   fine and not and it's not that I walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   around school haha claiming that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25   wasn't right it was joint that I had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28   know I was my dad introduced me to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:31   concept when I was really young big man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   on campus and my dad was like are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:34   big man on campus bmoc moc and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:38   like I don't know what does that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:39   mean and he was like big man on campus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40   you know big man you're the big guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   you're the guy on campus the big guy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   one but there you know BMOC and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:47   like i guess i'll be i guess is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:51   expectation I can you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   expectation was that ipf I guess that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:57   be the BMOC and so I was but anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01   that relationship and I had that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   relationship with several teachers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   were like who recognized that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   flailing but what they saw was what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:14   was projecting and not what I was and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17   there was never that there was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   that character that that came into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:24   script that was like hey i see what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   really are and it and and it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   because you know that that was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   the ways of which one of the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:35   reasons I didn't trust adults they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:38   didn't seem to be any smarter than kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41   I you're making me feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:44   realizing something here something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   something i'm really really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:47   starting to get with my kid that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49   suspect goes to what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   about i think it was stuff I've thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   about in the past kids of all kinds you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:57   know young younger than adult age people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   if there's one thing most all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   have in common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02   from a very very fairly early age it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   that they're very resistant to a frontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   attack on you know what i mean so going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   going at somebody had to have the trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   to confront kit at one extreme end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   confronting a can on why they're mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   going to say no i didn't i didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16   that right or in this case you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19   for me like stuff like I actually will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   sometimes like I'm trying to turbo to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24   the solution way too early so I'll i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:28   drinking try to encourage my child to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   talk about how she feels about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   that's the last thing in the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   she wants to do and in your case what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   you're describing here is like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   they they have this like first question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41   that they're gonna ask you like whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:42   that's what you're getting any pussy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45   so bizarre or whatever but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:48   commanded it the it's too on-the-nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   it's to it really is the the reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:53   gift for this would be some guy walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   and taking off his jacket with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   patches on the elbows and turn in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   seat around backwards so you can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:00   rap session you see that coming a mile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   off when you're a kid and I think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   defenses really pop up when that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   when there is a question that you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   want to be asked but it's it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   question and that they're asking did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   know what I mean yeah the the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:17   I heard the most from the from the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:23   teachers that I respected the most was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:27   and they both said it to me over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:32   over and they were friends with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   other and they were you know guys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:37   their thirties who were well read they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:41   were the English teachers and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44   the thing i heard the most from them was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   Roderick you're such an asshole and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:52   felt a lot of pride in the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:58   these two teachers basically would talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:03   to me that way like a like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   appear you're such an asshole and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:09   meant it to be kind of encouraging in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:16   the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:16   of like you're you're growing up now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   you're not a brat you're an asshole but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:24   what it ultimately was was you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:28   confirmed in me all these things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:35   was the most afraid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   I didn't want to be an asshole I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:40   even trying to be an asshole i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:41   trying to I was trying to be funny or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:44   was trying to be smart or I was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   to be you know is trying to be cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:51   asshole was I don't think that's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:55   anybody's list of of ambitions and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3895">TS</a>]

01:05:00   in what I what I what I wish that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   one of those guys had done was to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:07   you know the back to say hey look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:12   game we're playing this thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   you're in this school this these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:19   like this is small beer life is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:25   not anything like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   right right right there is a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   you in the world and if if anybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:34   ever said that like there's no place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:38   you here clearly but there is a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   for you in the world I would have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:45   know i would have borne everything with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   so much more calm over and the panic was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:53   just this feeling of like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   there's no place for me here and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:59   see any place for me in my parents world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   I don't see any place for me in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   world of the newspaper except you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:12   except such Carlson everyone so i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   write a column for a the Anchorage Daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   News and a and I feel like I can I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:22   I could see myself in in his column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24   every once in a while it's like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:28   I mean there is light out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:29   somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30   yeah thats i'm probably put that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   what i was trying to get that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   when you go out somebody and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   gonna be helpful right you go in you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38   gonna be helpful you're gonna come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   and you're gonna like you know same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   thing that needs to be said and shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   somebody up and like the problem is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   like what what they don't take fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:48   into account is that you are much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   maybe i'm being dismissive but I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53   you you kids are so much more vulnerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56   and uh and then they're so vulnerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59   and they know that they're vulnerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   and the very last thing in there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   the world that they're gonna do is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   be breakdown whatever shoddy defenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   they have on that vulnerability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   ok and so you kind of you I mean I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   now that sounds like an after school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:12   special but you kind of need to not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:15   like almost like treat the kids like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:16   cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:17   I just don't go up and flip it over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18   start rubbing his tummy you gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   real slow and you've got to just spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   some time with that person until that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   you have credibility with them where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   know maybe you should learn a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   more about who they are as a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29   before you come dive bombing in with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31   solution because that's just going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:32   more off-putting you know and then on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   top of all kinds of an asshole and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:36   that's what you call somebody that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:37   want to reform its what you want to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   somebody who's a lost cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   well I'm that exact that you hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   nail on that is what they that is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   they were communicating to me like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   can't reach you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49   you're gonna you're gonna be and when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   and and it was like any efforts will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   wasted but it was admiring you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56   was the crazy thing it was admiring like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   you are going to you know like what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4078">TS</a>]

01:07:59   were saying was you are already on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:03   trajectory far away from here but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:08   and so all they could say was asshole as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   they were kicking me out the door for um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:13   and there was a 50-50 there was a fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16   percent chance that that trajectory was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   going to go right through juvenile hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   right into jail and there and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:25   and I don't think they wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26   wrong and say you've got a bright future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29   and then I end up in jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   well it's kinda almost like their way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:32   saying kudos like you wanted to screw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   up and you screwed it up real good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:35   yeah but without but it like what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:39   are saying I mean I'm in a very i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:42   going to vary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:43   interesting place with my daughter right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   now which is that she when when I push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48   her a little bit too much just just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:53   sound out a word or two try to climb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:57   over the wall herself or to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:01   what whatever I say you know try again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:04   if i say try again three times she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:11   surrenders and and we get caught in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:18   dynamic where I say well I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   can't just quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   we have to try we have to try again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:25   there's nothing wrong with trying again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:26   there's nothing wrong with trying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   not succeeding but it's important to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30   multiple times and she says no I can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:35   can't do it and gets very emotional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:41   I and I'm thinking back to my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   relationship with my dad who in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   situations was would get mad and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:49   say god damn it get up and do it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   and I don't and I don't want to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   and I do do this thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   saying where I'm like let's talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   your feelings here and she's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01   fuck you talking like a i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   process server that the reaction is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   negative talk about my feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   go to hell and eventually what we end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11   doing is sometimes we're just we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   sit on the sidewalk for 30 minutes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:17   trying not you know and crying and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:24   succeeding and my and my parenting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   not succeeding and I see all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30   parents who you know whose whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:35   philosophy is well she doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   do it then then move on get an ice cream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   cone and you know and I don't and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:43   don't often admire the results of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   style of parenting and so not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:50   absolutely at a at a an impasse and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:54   very moved by your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   by your insight into the fact that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59   knows that she's she knows what her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   vulnerabilities are and she knows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04   those are the last things that she wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   to reveal like that feels very native to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:13   me to that your vulnerabilities are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:17   what you want to probe not the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:20   you had an end to surrender in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   moments as she does is very defensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:27   against failure obviously but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:31   defensive against against my involvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:38   and right you know she's such a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:44   baby still that it that all of this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:48   mean that she's not she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:52   strategizing it it's just coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:56   this way but I feel like I'm I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4316">TS</a>]

01:12:00   I really want them to try and not carved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:05   big ruts in the ground right and yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:10   I mean this is a huge process for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   that I struggle with all the time but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   you think about how often with us with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:17   anybody but especially with a little kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:20   what so you get your crying what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   crying crying is surrender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   crying is when you kind of have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:26   something that's so emotional that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   have a good buffer overrun or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   like there's just too much stuff here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:32   and you kind of want to give up but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35   know what i mean it's like you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36   emotionally reached the end of your rope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:37   and that's how it comes out but what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   the emotion that's so frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   precedes crying its anger like think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:45   about how at least my in our case at our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:46   house like crying is almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   preceded with anger and I think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   times that anger is unconsciously like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:54   unknowingly worrying about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   vulnerability that you have like for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   and me will try again to do this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   you know they're not gonna die even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   they fall but they don't but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04   also you as you know as well as I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   agreeing that the vulnerability part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:08   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:09   the improbable upside down approach that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   I'm trying to really think about and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   had to not have a handle on this yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   whether it's for my daughter for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   to junior hire anybody else is that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   really feel like very few things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:23   successful in the wrong run when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   based on fear and depleting security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28   like that can be when you're a grown-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   like their stuff you gotta do and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   want to take care of this like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   the equipment to deal with that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   especially when you're younger and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:37   have all those vulnerabilities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:38   you're acutely aware of like I just try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:41   to avoid anything that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:42   unintentionally becomes less secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:45   rather than more secure because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   like I'm being supportive when I say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   you know you can do this or I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   know but what I'm really doing is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:53   of making it about me and I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:54   making you know when like here's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   expectations for what you can do when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   like what you described like sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4438">TS</a>]

01:13:59   the sidewalk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00   that's the thing to do is the hardest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   thing in the world again Shh right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   there's this time we've got to go like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   you know what I all of my words are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   going to do anything to add to this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   in a way i'm probably not i'm not aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:13   of i am making this more perilous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:15   because now she sees me being nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   and trying to make her feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:18   why is he doing that well I must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:19   done something wrong or something bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   you know what I mean it's like you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   reactions to how people do stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:24   world ends up having a much user impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:27   than what we think or what we believe or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:28   even what we say you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   it's how we act is what the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:33   supportiveness sometimes it just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   them you know you don't want you to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   into it you know an idiot or an asshole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   but I think about things I said to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   that I thought were very inspiring and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   really regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:44   I've said things in the past like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   you can be a better person than this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   think oh my gosh what a horrible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   what a horrible thing to say I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52   to say I really do believe in you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:53   know you're a good person but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55   because to me that's a question I ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57   myself is this the person that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:58   be all grown man that's a good question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   for me to ask myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:02   you're not a great question feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:03   supported but it's not yeah yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:06   I I don't know how much my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:12   recognize themselves in me it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:16   seem to me like they did recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   themselves very much in me until maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:21   later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:22   um and and watching Marlo I'm trying not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:28   to recognize myself in her because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:33   don't want to put my own struggles on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:36   her and I don't want to see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   struggles as extensions of mine or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:42   recapitulation of some family line so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:46   hard not to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:47   it's hard not to do and and and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:52   just watching her and saying like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:53   are you gonna do what are you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:57   struggle with and you know and I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:05   wanted to stop yelling in restaurants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:08   about stuff about her poop you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:13   there are things there are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:15   things well that's the great goals i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   just say no you do not yell about poop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20   in a Mexican restaurant but but beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:26   that like do I care if she's a soccer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:29   player or not know do i do I want her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:34   learn that if she tries something and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37   doesn't work that someone else will step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   in and do it for no do I want her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:43   learn that if she tried something and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:46   everything comes to a screeching halt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:47   and everybody stares at her until she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48   figures that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   so you know but but I've never I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:54   never helped somebody learn how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   things like this before you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58   somebody wasn't I mean to do not appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:01   and she's like she's like from another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:02   planet right I don't hurt her skill set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:05   is real different than ours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:07   I'm not teaching her to drive i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:09   teaching her not to eat glass and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:14   know and I don't want to I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:16   fill her little heart with fear and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:18   don't want to I don't want to make her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:22   embarrassed about herself and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:25   and so far so far we're doing a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:29   job her mother and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   I feel like weird we're doing good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:34   this is a new this is a new world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   she is asserting herself and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:39   way she the only power she has is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:42   power to um you know it's not the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:47   power but it's very interesting to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   heard learned that she has the power to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:52   not do something for the power to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:56   like the power to not try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:59   uh-huh especially if she knows it drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   you crazy it's a huge power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   uh-huh and i used the power to not try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:07   that was one of my major powers in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:12   family the power to not try a superpower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:15   it was my super power and the power to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:18   not try is incredibly frustrating for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:21   people for other people because it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:24   you know it isn't that you're trying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26   fucking up it is that you just aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28   even willing to try and that drove my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:33   own people to distraction and it caused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:36   me so much additional pain and suffering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:39   in my own life over and above this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:43   pain and suffering of just failing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:44   something and I don't want I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:48   her to have to to endure that the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:52   way i did but i have to you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:57   to step back and say she's not reliving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4737">TS</a>]

01:19:01   your life she's not you know should her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:04   her challenges are different so I i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:12   and talk to her but I'm going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:16   doing that now with this this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:19   understanding that she's not that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:24   no no one in their right mind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26   particularly not a four-year-old is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   going to be unguarded about the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:33   that she knows our her her greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:36   vulnerabilities and that's just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   that makes so much sense when you say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:42   of course you don't that's not your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44   expectation right i mean i would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46   so much parenting advice is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:50   predicated on the idea that your child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   is an open book and that they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   just tell me they're gonna talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   their fucking feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   the worst thing in the world I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   such activities is such a fit such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   total failure that I thought maybe I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:06   just watched any TV shows i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:07   thought it could be something where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:08   wrap lightly on the door and stick my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10   hand I got hey do you want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:13   what hey hey sweetie you know the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:18   for us to establish really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:19   communications between father and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   daughter just to start talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:22   your feelings when you're for yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:24   know i was thinkin maybe I to come into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   your room which is the only place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   you feel really safe from the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   the world and I committed confront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   structure of vulnerabilities and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:33   2-2 pitch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:35   just sit on the edge of your bed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:36   wrapped you know you know what I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   be a I'll just be a friendly ear while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:41   you talk about all of that and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:44   what and maybe even i'll make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:45   suggestions maybe I'll tale about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   I'm broken inside and talk any good luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:51   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPMaefU/4851">TS</a>]