00:00:05 ◼ ► hello hi John I'm Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► good are you going I'm going I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/10">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► Oh John rado red call patriotic version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/18">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► um yeah it was a big weekend a big nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► big long hot weekend I was it hot up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► there I know it's very hot up here yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► just set some kind of record for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► days above 80 yeah where we're headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/37">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► we're headed to a record of most days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► above 90 now that that's where we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► yeah it hasn't rained in in a long long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► time and it's a everybody you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► course because because they're there had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► their lizard people and they they lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► out on their hot rocks you get it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► get to live this little fantasy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/64">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► pretending they live somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► mmm i live somewhere different with son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/67">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► yeah yeah they just they absorb the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► life-giving rays of the Sun and the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► of us are just a cowering something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► have has done on me slowly i think i may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► pick up slightly from you is that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► you think about the the problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► different places have you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► that's you know when it rains in Atlanta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► rains in san francisco when it snows in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► some sort doesn't snow and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► laughs the point laughs but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► problem is that you know you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► community set up a certain way your city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► if you like to accommodate what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/105">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► mhm right and i don't know i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► have more subtle understanding of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/112">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► things because I get now I get that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► you know yet it's still kinda silly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/116">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► literally no one in Florida can drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► but but you know if you if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► used to a certain kind of traffic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/122">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► event happens it's a very infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► issue in some ways you can't suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/125">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► conditioning because it's HOT for four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/129">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► that's right and no one here has air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► conditioning it's always been a point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/132">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► Ella's those are two big co system-wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► wow that everyone makes no umbrellas no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► air conditioning and and now the no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/147">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► air-conditioning thing is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► starting to be a little bit of a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► for people you can't go you can't go two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► weeks with no break in the sun in July [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/158">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► and and be just sit in front of your box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► fan and be like yeah I'm fine I'm fine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/165">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► well yeah I mean there's there's health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► issues I mean it seems like if I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/172">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► like this happens in Chicago a lot when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► there's heat ways you know ramifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► for people like an old people who live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► alone and don't have air-conditioning or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► something like that there's there's real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► mistakes to it you know you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► you just hit on Merlin through its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► ramifications boom that's what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► talking about what he really said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/188">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► it's all about ramifications you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► what its ramifications and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► thing that people don't people don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► we don't talk about ramifications enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► write that down but uh but this is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► ramifications and so many things are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► know what i mean so many things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► about ramifications really good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► John yeah i think i think as principal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► people with a lot of fancy ideas we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► a lot of nouns in our head about how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/211">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► world works but when it comes down to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► the real problem its ramifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/214">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► that's right yeah yeah at the annual gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► though the more the more you say it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/218">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► ramifications its ramifications and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/222">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► know it started really thinking with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► to say just say it a few times and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► capabilities start to you start to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► yeah you know it's true it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► because I you know and the thing is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► don't know i think a lot about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/239">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► things you know that's what we're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/240">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► know actually I mentioned this recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/245">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► somewhere else i think about like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► talked about this with you about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/248">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► what by evil parenting style or any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► the ways you conduct your life I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► think that I had a set of principles or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► values or any of these other lists of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► nouns that white men like to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► I used to think that I had these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/260">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► and then i willfully mindful e in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► muscular masculine way apply those to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/265">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► I started to realize that that list is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► easy to overlook when things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► the way that I want it when things don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► that's when I start wanting to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► slapping on two things going that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► this is wrong when really have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/283">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► realize its ramifications there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► ramifications that you know what i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► though i do people you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► always the kind of like and I guess form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► of personal NIMBY where you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► putting other people who are doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► wrong on one does that and it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► used to assume you're doing it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/300">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► because you got this bag announced yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/301">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► I have more than ever before and no i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/304">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► convinced that i am out that do not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/308">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► special knowledge and i am not doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► haha you really feel that when I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► you have time to sit and think and stew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► and steam and various other ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► mentally cooking yourself you you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► really dig yourself in on how correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► your idea about something is and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► you might suddenly one might suddenly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► exposed to several dozen people who not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/335">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► only disagree with how you steam vents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► dude but like you can they can actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► demonstrable to show you how full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► shit you are in a way that is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/346">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► immediate life here where I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► do have some special knowledge right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► one of them and I get this may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/357">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► foreign world to you don't write it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► but uh when I was first introduced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► facebook the first thing that I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► about it was that it was a terrible name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► facebook I don't you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► people don't like the word moist the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► don't like the word face succulent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► there's nothing about the word face that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/379">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► remember remember in on golden pond when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/383">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► they describe kissing and sucking face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► and remember that okay yeah okay you add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/389">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► you had sucked face and it really brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► out the nastiness of face as a teenager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► was you know so people sucking face well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► see it wasn't do it was the is the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► the one of the one of the plot points of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► on golden pond was what Jane Fonda's son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► her obnoxious little blonde son or was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► yeah there was a young person in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► film I haven't seen in a long time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► do remember i do remember the term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► sucking face ruined not only the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► for me but but i think that entire year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► of my life who and then so on facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► first came out I was like that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► like sucking face it face facebook i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► don't want you know like a rock face i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► like the face of the rock face i can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► that's more dignified but a human face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► yeah or even a little animal face tho 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/442">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► days I went into this having no problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/447">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► well so yeah that's the thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► you're thinking about face you you took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► you're not even using like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► face now right i mean you're just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► it's like it's like the way they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► you don't even say the police anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► you just say it doesn't have an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► you just say face just a police right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► and so Facebook anyway when it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► came on i was at you know i had spent so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► much time worrying about who I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► trending on myspace uh-huh that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/483">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► Facebook came I was just like screw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/487">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► i'm just going to friend everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► everybody that wants to be my friend can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► be my friend because i don't care i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► not here to curate anything i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► trying to create a special place for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► people my people aren't on here at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► so the people that are on my facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► page are just whoever and so long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► ago or some amount of time ago i arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► at the 5,000 friend mark which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/511">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► oh there's limit you can only have 5,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► friends because somewhere in within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► Facebook they imagined themselves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/521">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► they imagine their product has a correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► use absolutely that's super interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► they do that's why they're so tied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► yeah because they're saying if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► real John rock there's no way an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► person has actual 5,000 friends side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► setting aside the fact that you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/541">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► and like coca-cola on facebook right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► that's exactly right so they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► idea about the correct way to use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/547">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► product and 5,000 friends they determine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► is the most that are normal human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► could have it's obviously way more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► a normal human being to adapt but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► not as many as I mean if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► have if you want to be my friend past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/561">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► 5,000 then you're my fan right but over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► the years I have accepted a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► friend requests from like as I say from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► whoever so record labels have friended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/572">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► dealership and you know there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► stuff on there that I don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/580">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► now my pc pontiac THX pontiac dealership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► but so I was like all this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/585">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► this is a bummer because people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► friending me every every day and i cant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► i cannot conclude the transaction with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► your you're all out of the Bitcoin of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► human kindness that's right i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► hand them my like my ace of spades and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/601">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► say you know 1st airborne was here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/605">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► I cannot touch them with my my virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► fingertip you can't be can't palm your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► challenge coin i cannot show them my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/614">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► collection of faces into my book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► faces if you will and so and yet here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/623">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► what i've discovered you ready yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► everyday some one to four people uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/630">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► disappear from my facebook friendless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/636">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► everyday I'm allotted between 22 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/639">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► five new opportunities to friend people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/643">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► and I don't know where the three to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/649">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► they just decide I've had enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► their monitor their they are a they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► in their own Facebook's really managing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/660">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► their account and they decide you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► John Roderick he's just not i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► he's just not working for me anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/669">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► whatever it is so every day I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► gratifying feeling of just the and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/673">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► always go to the always go to the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► the line i always go to the head of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► queue and I let to 25 people to 25 more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/682">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► people in and then take it you aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/687">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► you unclasp the velvet rope that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/691">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► and I say go outside please bring your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► yeah and so today it was whose jenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► louis and it was who is this person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/701">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► does the rilo kiley person I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/707">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► and then this next person has a has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► avatar that is a it's a furry it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► it's a free raccoon to free face friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► a very friend so uh so that's exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► so that's one thing that I want bad name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► 5,000 friend limit 5,000 friend limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► they have a sense of they have a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► of what's of justice here and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► other thing the other thing i know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► doing right i was walking along and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► saw an orange handle on the ground and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/740">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► what kind of handle you might ask who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► it's like a broom handle but it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► about 16 18 inches long let's say 18 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/752">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► lets it not quite two feet sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/757">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► that's it is it's a push broom like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/761">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► handle it has it is threaded on one end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► and it's meant i think to go into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► squeegee over right it's like a window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► washer tool it's unused it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/773">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► bright orange and I saw it on the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► it and appeal to me I picked it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► I've been carrying it around and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► know it's exactly the right left that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► you can kind of spin it between your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► fingers you know it's like it's big it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► a stick right you could you could whack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► somebody with it but it also you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► twirl it in your hand that's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► satisfying a circumference and it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► it's you know it's got broom-handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/806">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► weight and I can you know as I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/807">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► sitting here right before you called and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/811">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► I was just kinda here i'll give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► little sound effect just back in my leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► it interesting so it stands in for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/817">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► it's not a riding crop no not a baton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► it's certainly not a baseball bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► it's it's a it's not one of those giants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► tix he used to hit your tire but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► actually using it to to beat up people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► at truck stops but this fits into it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► a nice place in your life you saw it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► were attracted to it and you just knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/838">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► that would have the hand weight and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/839">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► that you're looking for exactly it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► all of the things it scratches the itch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► of every single one of those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► you just described the tire thumper the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/847">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► the walking stick the torso a baton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/852">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► right in a mini-me can't stand it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► lot of things like sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► receptor em who and so on and the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► the orange color i think if it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► blue maybe I would have left it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► ground but the orange color was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/870">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► intriguing to me and so now i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► thing right i have i have found at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► for the in this context i have found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► small duck it is this stick and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/878">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► giving me like it's it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► giving my fingers something to do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► just dangerous enough that i'm almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► certain to whack myself with it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/891">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► wrongly at some point for her which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► possession of a little bit of an edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► they provide you with a certain amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/900">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► of alertness that's right that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► right it's keeping me in the game keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► my head in the game so I feel like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► that respect I have sort of a stitt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/907">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► today it's very close in color but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/911">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► so I've got kind of an orange theme I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► don't know I just feel like that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► little guy oh the other thing I did was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/922">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► I put my water bottle in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► refrigerator last night and now my water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► bottle is I was good i got tired of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► drinking hot water oh so there are few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/930">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► things i know i'm not going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► around here and say that I'm that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/935">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► don't know anything I do know a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/936">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► I really I really I really believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► I think I think he started out everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► on the bubble maybe at best and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► you know sometimes it's something comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► along and you say hey this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► what does that phrase me on the bubble I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► think it has to do I think of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/956">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► being like a like a level a carpenter's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/957">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► beware when it's when it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► horizontal the the little bubble in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► green liquid is exactly the right place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► I don't know I don't know why that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► what i think of any way but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► they're just mean that it could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► yeah I i well I wonder I I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/977">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► sometimes what well you know a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/981">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► lot of our podcast yours in mine one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► the major themes has been what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► doing what are we meant to do and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► are we actually doing and and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/994">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► like I feel like I'm just trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► I'm just trying to get get that bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► I when I went hiking yesterday with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► family we hiked up to a mountain lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► and we're some of the only people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► there was a there was some kind of dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► critter it was truly mountainous and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► the ladies in my party all jumped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► this freezing mountain lake and I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► of took my shoes off and waded into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► knees which is that was that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► right where I was comfortable was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► it was cold mountain lake and I was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► know I was I was being watchful eye was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► I didn't want to jump in the lake I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► wanted to kind of keep one not a foot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► the shore but i wanted to be ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► you know you don't know what's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► happen up there in the mountains like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► heard coyotes and you know and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► there and I was like okay my is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► this was this was absolutely where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► meant to be right now right this is I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► exactly where I need to be right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► um and and hey if you can get if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► I feel like if you can even get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► once a day like this is exactly where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► i'll try and meant to be right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► uh-huh like you're you are your triumph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► in a little bit at least i'll totally oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► no III hundred percent agree yeah when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► was the last time that you felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► that you were exactly where you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► well this is gonna be a false positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► because i rarely get it because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► broken inside and now I can't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► thinking about the motherfucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► kool-aid man coming through my wall haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► son there's something about the enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► and the analogy of the anxiety kool-aid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► man that has now kind of taken over as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► controlling metaphor for my own mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► landscape and sorry i know i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► know it's a it is this happens rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► enough that i did really enough that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► uh we mentioned i think fly we went away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► for the weekend to visit family the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► family you know our in-laws that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► visit pretty often they've recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► moved like much further away than where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► they were before they're out like east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► of Sacramento now and it's in an area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► that I would almost described as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► the suburban Country like I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► a lot about California but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► these areas where not much happens for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► while and then you get into this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► area that's like a weird combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► like gated communities but also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► fairly what I think it's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► places that tend to go up like tinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► during a wildfire like you're out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► middle of you know that they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► creek behind their house and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► crawdads in it and we go and we draw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► crawdads it's really fun and a 10 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► draw the kroger my my daughter is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► of a what's less than amateur a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► naturalist she likes looking at things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► and holding them in collecting the golf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► balls that people have hit into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► creek where so many golf balls and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► part of nature and they got credits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► which is kind of cool sort of my tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► lobsters when you said draw the crawdads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► I thought that was a southern way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► describing catching them but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► literally drawing them with pen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► paper sketching them George driving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► crawdad sounds like a terrible guided by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► voices wreck all we were out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► drawing the crawdads and grew up for 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► / a sketch the mudflat family a but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► skipper would slap much fun so I now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► that's a gross word that goes on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► face mudflap the word flap is so groups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► well I i I'm may not have ever told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► the story but I was sitting I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► sitting on the side of the road one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► with a with an an older guy and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► just sort of shooting the shit I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► there with a friend and he was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► with a friend the older guy was with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► friend and a really nice Cadillac drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► by and the old man said that's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► car and I said that's not really my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► style I like it I like a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► grittier than you know that's all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► all dandy it up and he said oh you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► one of them mud ducks my ducks and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► sounds like that sounds like a sexy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► thing a mud duck and then my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► seized upon it and still to this day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► calls me mud Archie see that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► just like snotboogie anyway so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► out there in Grass Valley California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► working app grass valley Greg were way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► the heck out the middle to know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► believe me I have so many things to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► you about this weekend but but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► I'm in retrospect there was just this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► really dumb personal but my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► loves going to the family's new house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► they have a hammock in the backyard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► we were just laying there kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► perpendicular in the hammock kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► yeah but I mean you know it isn't like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► think you know we need to disabuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► ourselves of the of the like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► I don't know Norman Rockwell fifties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► idea about how families actually spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► time together a lot of it's excruciating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► it is actually extremely rare to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► the moments that are depicted in things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► like coca-cola commercials and and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► when it does happen and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► trying to create a coca-cola moment it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► actually really nice so we were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► laying there and we do something there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► a thing we do where we take a sound and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► then we try to figure out all the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► that you get the alphabet and how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► words you can make out that sound and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► that becomes a song and we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► sitting there and I was like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► this is actually really nice and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► went inside to play on the ipad but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► was nice and but i find those moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► very rare maybe partly because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► kool-aid man but uh but it does it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► happen it does happen but I see now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► had numerous things I you know numerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► times with the family where I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► I was not participating as much as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► should like in your case you go in up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► your up to your you know calves I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► finally at length put on my swimsuit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► got in the pool with everybody but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► don't love that you know it John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► everybody's got tattoos now know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► resume i see I this is the thing I live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► in a bubble and then I go out to the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► the suburban Country land and like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► on me like like there's there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► clean ankle in that County yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► some kind of some kind of shitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► insignia affixed to every leg where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► live and boy people buy clothes to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► it off and like you know God love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► i'm glad you're having the life you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► but it makes me incredibly uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► yeah and uh huh I mean everybody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► know and I think sometimes like moms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► dads get sympathy and tattoos because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► their kids have already gotten in way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► over their head in there in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► tattoos in their twenties I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► get a sympathy tattoo maybe get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► memorial tattoo your Tweety Bird you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► some kind of like a really poorly drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► trouble clef oh I've seen since I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► seen so many insignias oh oh my goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► but no I'm not always participating as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► much as i showed him you know I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► through my moods but yeah oh yeah oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► I'm pretty I'm usually a pretty jolly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► guy but you know sometimes it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah crashing baby boomer with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► conversation you know god please no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► company where i figger morning come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► I said listen the only real wealth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► property i heard that where I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► those words come out of my mouth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► only real wealth his property and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► people are always talking to world like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► you said like James Earl Jones and cohen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► know what is a good one person kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► looked out the window the other person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► started twirling their hair and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► like no listen it was it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► non sequitur we sitting a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► like bad puffing on your on your on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► uh your mirror Shami or your calabash in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► the only real well as proper traffic i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► looked i think i looked up from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► newspaper looked over the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► scratching yourself at the same time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► real world looks and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► there's something I want my daughter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► know gather out the only real world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► probably real well that's true yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► never going to retire Jesus and and can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► only get can only be comfortable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► other people are in brief a brief moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► you think we're really different you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► well I knew you and I were corner cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► but like I I used to think of us as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► being very very a different and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► think we might share a kool-aid man m [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► one of one of my quotes from yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► you know we were we were hiking it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► it was a truly a mountain mountain hike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► and my little girl has gone on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► she's become some forced marches with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► before before no and the you know in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► long-term goal which was to get her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► think that hiking in the mountains is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► normal is starting to take effect right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► she knows better she just she assumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► that this is you know that we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► do any was quite a long hike it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► was a few miles up in a few miles down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► my goodness on her little legs ya up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► the up to the mountains but what I what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► I started to notice was you know she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► is a narrator right she is narrating all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► the time and when she's narrating show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► get up into a word storm and forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► where she is forget what she's doing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► she's on a mountain trail so she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► then immediately slip-and-fall she felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► one at one point yesterday face-first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► no it didn't know she was just stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► out and tripped and plop right like face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► in a stream and that was a surprise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► it was really actually quite priceless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► oh no I she wasn't horribly injured no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► and woman she was coming it we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► hiking in the mountains we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► injured by the end but at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► point I i became a dad right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► started to say less talking more walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► and I heard myself say it again and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► I was like it's my mantra it's my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► mantra for the day and every time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► would say you would stop and she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► think about it for a while and she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► walk and she would walk without falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► and then after a while you know we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► die in the end I and there were a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► of identity to the rules right if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► have a question about anything you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► always ask a question are you allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► you can pause and stop walking and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► at stuff there long i can see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► potential abuse right up right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► there's a certain amount of that but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► did we play a game where it's like who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► that who's the locomotive who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► who's the hopper car and who's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► so if you use if you stop and want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► like look at something then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► we'll all stop and look but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► your laggin and you're the caboose you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► remember you are four years old and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► so you want a lag to collect too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► uh-huh yeah we should start a collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► of dad quotes i had 1i I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► description of this as being something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► you find yourself saying yeah no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► wakes up wanting to say say say certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► things but one finds oneself saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► things that you wear it's very you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► sound like your parents one's own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► parents or you may sound like a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► yeah I sound I mean I never in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► thought I would ever say less talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► how about this one um well you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► gonna have to cry in the car which witch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► is which is a version of less talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► more walking which is like an incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► I screwed up any attempt i might make to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► take the lessons I've learned from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► something like hey you know it's okay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► it's ok to have emotions it's okay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► cry but you know what did you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► anything we don't have time to cry here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► no listen that's a lie i have have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► that voice why did they say that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► know what a help save your feelings hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► them in when we get into the women get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► into our safe bubble you can let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► we gotta go we got three hour drive la [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► listen grab your bag oh yeah so uh so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► have i've been i've been coping pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► well lately by you know you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► kind of we this is another thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► you and I talked about a lot and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► think we've ever put a name to it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► but I'm starting to think of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► reverse-engineered Buddhism well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► pretty good right where you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► into it Buddhistic Lee mhm but you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► arrive at it you arrive at Buddhism by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► other by another path that's good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► I'm and I'm finding that I'm finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► that it's actually very effective you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► know Two and sometimes it involves some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► swears right where I think of actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► Buddhism isn't as never involving any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► swears see that's that's bad marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► right that's the thing they don't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► you this is what those Wall Street fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► cats don't want you to know that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► uncomfortable experiences in your entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► life not just on your legs your behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► but like you're just supposed to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► there and take it as your mind like goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► well so many squares that's the thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► many squares it's like it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► argument you and I had so many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► when I was like Christians shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► smoke pot it's the same it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► Buddhist shouldn't swear but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► when you're meditating your mind is full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► of swears your you are so full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► squares and that's that's how you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► like I'm not doing this right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► percent alcohol your good John Wow king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► but in fact it's all swears it's where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► how did you so you know how did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► reverse engineer this but what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► thing if I could ask if you want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► what's the thing that occurs to you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► hmm here's the thing i could try here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► a thought technology i could experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► with well so so running this campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► for public office has been a extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► difficult and emotionally difficult and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► and practically difficult energetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► difficult and and so the difficulty like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► breeds in me at least like and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► in i think in most candidates like i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► successful local politician who is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► sort of everybody everybody admires and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► he turned to his wife and said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► because i was talking about the pic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► trials of the campaign he turned to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► wife he said remember my first campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► and she said yeah and he said I had a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► total nervous breakdown like I i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► i was going to end up in a rubber room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► oh wow and I think that that is true of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► everyone that's one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► people don't really know it's so easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► political candidates and think oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► they're ego-driven it's all for glory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► it's all for their you know they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► like to hear the sound of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► voice all this kind of stuff that we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► on political candidates and and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► no way to know even as a I mean even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► a total political voyeur and tourists as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► I feel like I've been my whole life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► watching candidates and watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► process there's just no way to know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► much you know how exposed you are how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► vulnerable you are and how much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► process of running for office is to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► put yourself over and over in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► people who are communicating to you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► every way that the best you can do is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► be that the best that you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► get from them is that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► give you a face like they're sucking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► a lemon right like every day you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► you wake up in the morning like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► gonna have to go out and I'm gonna meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► 600 people today and they're all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► to give me a lemon face and then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► end of the day maybe I'll remember to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► eat so there's not that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► idea that anybody would do it for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► the idea that it is self-aggrandizing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► that you that you do it and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► like strokes the whole time right is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► far off and there's so much easier ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► all right i mean if you I mean anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► now just go on facebook and put a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► of put a bunch of selfies on there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► talk about your surgery you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► already you're already like getting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► many more ego strokes then even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► president of the united states right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► mean it's just like running for office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► is so hard and and there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► multiple multiple times where I've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► you know kind of like my friend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► successful politician where I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► like I'm going to end up in a rubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► room but I'd but you get that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► that very human cornered feeling just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► something bad about to happen and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► an and none of it is going to register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► as bad to people outside like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► is marked in the pride parade and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► everybody around me and everybody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► saw me and took a picture of me is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► wow you're you know that must have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► amazing you're marching in the pride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► parade but from my perspective like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► marching as a political candidate in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► pride parade and so the joy that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► are expressing um is not directed at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► right I am trying being a political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► candidate I am arriving in a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► where people are expressing joy and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► I'm trying to grab your more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► witness to joy yeah right or like i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► here is the is the best that you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► right now if you if I had if I had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► enormous feathered headdress and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► wearing a g-string I would be like I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► giving back the joy that you are sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► right like I am I am Here I this parade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► is an expression of my liberation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► know there are so many people in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► parade that are truly expressing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► something real and powerful and i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► saying i would like to be your elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► representative yeah like kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► almost a form of tourism and and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► i don't and i think most most candidates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► are most candidates are either not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► sensitive i think i think ultimately to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► be a successful political candidate he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► professional career trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► emotionally raw which is what i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► done for now you are emotionally raw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► you're an adult who is still emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► raw which is a rare enough thing in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► of itself and then you're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► yourself into a situation where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► are like it's just like squeezing lemons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► in your eyes all day so I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► are marching in this parade and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► not conscious of the fact that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► uh or there or if they are conscious of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► it they don't it's not connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► their emotions that they are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► carpetbagging almost any situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► carpetbagging unless it is an event that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► you have set up yourself for people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► yellow you about streetcars um but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2214">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► I'm arriving at this backdoor Buddhism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► because literally I it's the only I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► I it's not a stratagem my employ in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► is a last resort of how am I going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► make it to the end of today and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► find myself like trying to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► present and trying to recognize the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► know all these are all these notions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► that I've I learned or heard of her but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► in other ways other different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► practice and I'm actually it's the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► the only thing that that will get me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► the end of the day and that's really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► know that's where you get to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► kind of the mathematics of the soul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► right where you we just you find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► core principles that are true across all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► principles that are just that are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► uh-huh at the start of the Spirit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► written in because you you you get to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► place where you're justyou're you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► you are in the particle accelerator of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► the of the Spirit and it just breaks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► down to two those you know the elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► i guess there's an element of any port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► it's funny because you mean there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► aspects of what I'm doing where I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► never cared so much about i think i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► doing right I've never I mean maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► maybe making records ye you care so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► deeply about it but but the thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► making a record is your caring about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► it's very hard to care about the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► while you're making it because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► you're what you really care about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► this bass part you're working on right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► now and if you manage to care deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► about this bass part and that tambourine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► part and you never you never walked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► the studio and go out this tambourine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► part doesn't matter just bang bang bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► but you go in every time ago like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► gotta get this tambourine part right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► like this is going to be the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► really lifts this tune and you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► you're carrying very deeply about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► parts and but you you never aware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► like Ike I'm i care about this record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► you don't you don't think that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► keep you if you're too much i said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► from some experience if you're too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► in that position you're probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► making the record that's right it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► it's there's something actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► actually heard an interview this morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► on sound opinions they were talking to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► want to say the band Torres but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► woman Mackenzie something in this band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► proposal sentence anyway and some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► recently heard an interview with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► somebody where they were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► how dealing with I think I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► mangling this but somebody talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► how like there's something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► comforting about actually being in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► studio and recording and its high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► pressure is that is that's really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► of knowable sort of high pressure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► because you you really are a tent-like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► deep in the implementation details and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► doing of things it's like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► outside of that rare environments and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► feel about recording the show were being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► onstage I find it relaxing we do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► this this is not is not the part that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► find difficult at all i love doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► it's you know it's everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► that's difficult and because that's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► you think about like what should you be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► doing that you're not doing right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► you don't think I mean like it do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► that to an extent but like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► really absorbed in what you're doing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► the studio was just thinking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► baseline or tambourine like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► that's really freeing yeah and and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► and that is the opposite of what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► like at least for me in running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► campaign because each individual event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► in the campaign like none of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► not very few of them at least is thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► far our are moments where it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► really have to get this bass part right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► you know each each one of them at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► four and i think there are candidates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► who every every time they appear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► front of the like concerned shoppers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► they want to you know they want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► their stump speech a little bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► and tailor it to this concern shoppers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► but for me each one of those events is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► just like oh there's nothing i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► do less than go talk to the concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► shoppers of america and it's not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► I'm not interested in hearing what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► concern shoppers are concerned about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► is that every one of these things is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► is is a kind of theater and they are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► really telling me what they're concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► about like there is there's very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► real communication happening if any real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► communication does happen in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► events it is by accident and yet so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► every one of the building block events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► is kind of really hard much much harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► than than what you get out of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► know what I mean like it's almost over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► what do they call it in sports is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► like the compulsories and in-store or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► like you know if anything we're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► or time trial kind of thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► have to compete in order to be allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► to compete right right right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► right and so that in one way obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► that is very similar to a primary you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► competing before you're allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► compete but the other part of it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► and I i might be over dramatizing this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► little bit but it seems to me like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► event you go to what you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► avoid saying is that it sounds like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► that these can't all be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► important high-stakes thing in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► for you perish like but you also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► take each one of those seriously because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► while there's not an eternal like huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► amount of long-term gain from really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► hitting it out of the park there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► there are potentially huge ramifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► so it's one of those this it's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► the worst kind of existential compressor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► limiter were like no matter how great it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► gets you're ok you're good now these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► three hundred shoppers might consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► you but if you say something wrong or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► you fart or something like that like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► could go it could be potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► catastrophic is now there's now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► really some news report on ya and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► single you know every single moment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► an opportunity for somebody to stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► and say when did you stop beating your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► right you're just like you know a god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► it's happy you know like it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► there's every morning waking up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► looking at the internet it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► is today the day that the internet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► you know that I mean there there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► guy in my race that that that wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► win badly enough that he is willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► be he's willing to attack me personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► that gets it gets too desperate he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► more than willing to to go negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► yeah he's demonstrated it already a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► couple of times and that the attacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► have been sort of ineffective because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► he's just but he's he really is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► really wants it and what I have learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► the way I have learned to survive this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► is to arrive at a place where it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► really funny because as I say I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► never cared so much about the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► project I've never cared so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► the about the thing i'm doing but I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► also had to learn to say it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► ultimate Lee I'm fine with any result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► i'm fine with either result like if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► that is a that is cause for celebration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► if I do not win that is also that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► also fine for that is also like even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► it is a it will be a profound lesson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► experience and i don't mean personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► like I'm not talking about this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► what a journey right but like I will I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► already know so much more than I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► knew and that knowledge is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► useful to me down the road and and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► I know that helping other people helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► my fellows is one of my core principles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► and now I know how to do that better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► ultimately if I if I focus on winning if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► that is the goal then there's there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► so many opportunities every day to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► something in order to win that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► against my beliefs her and so I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► focus on winning because I see what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► does to people and and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► hundreds and hundreds of people who want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► to facilitate you making the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► choice in order to win right that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► whole consultant game it's just like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► you want to win I'll tell you how to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► you put you know you you you unscrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► your opponent's brake lines and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► always another devil to appear on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► yeah and so you cannot think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► winning and if you're not thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► winning then you have to arrive at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► place where winning doesn't matter we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► winning isn't the goal the goal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► something else and you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► goal is not to keep your personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► integrity intact because i already had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► my personal integrity intact before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► this wasn't some isn't something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► it's like I need to find what find my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► integrity like I had it right so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► goal has to be something else and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► isn't winning and if it isn't staying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► honest rat no matter what the cost or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► what the what the result you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► that is this that is this that is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► acceptance where I'm still I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► working hard and striving every day to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► do the best job I can with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► constant friend with the constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► companion being the knowledge that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► not willing to do anything to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► and you know you know but not by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► anything i mean you know when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► like you know in yeah I I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► yeah and that at that that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► thing that gives me comfort right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► I will be I will like the anxiety will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► well up in me to the point where I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► like I have never felt so bad it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► a terrible anxiety is a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► terrible feeling her and a and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► it rises up and I feel so so so bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► then I just say you know i'm not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► to I'm not trying to win i'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► do something else and you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► um and and that's that's getting me down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► the road you know my pipe right I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► to my mom the other day and she said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► was looking for sympathy first mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► and she said you've had worse months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► than this I was like mom that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► she was like that is support you've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► worse months than this you survived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► Wow no borders no quarter and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► she's right i have had worse months than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► this and i have survived them and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► is good advice and that is a way of but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► you know that's very different than like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► yeah I man i'm sorry that this is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► hard as it is the I mean I know you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► going into this that were smarter than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► yeah yay this is there also a practical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► side to this though where I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► when you think about being this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► just a true of a candidate with anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► like if you're desperate to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► thing and it's starting to seem less and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► less likely that you're going to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► temptation to do or attempt more radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► things in order to get that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► and this is what i worry about from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► opponents was right well here's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► think about that also is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► that it's almost like I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► imagine like somebody who thinks they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► can defend themselves by doing some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► of like Daniel karate kick and mainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► just blowing up their pants and landing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► it's like you one might try the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► radical thing in the world and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► makes things worse and when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► getting advice from the outside from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► people who are like go do this and go do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► it must be hard to know I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► obviously there must be something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► come along you know I'm never gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► that there's no way but other kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► things like you've talked about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► siren song of getting involved in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► certain kind of negativity where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► respond to what other people have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► differently or whatever where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► basically jump into somebody's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► responses publicly to start going in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► wrestling around to show how you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► different or to like sort of monetize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► the shot in front of somebody else's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► day which is luring but like does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► actually helped is the problem you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► and and i think one of the worst and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► most anxiety producing things is as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► feel like you're not getting closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► what is that you want you consider more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► and more crazy things in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► there isn't that is not part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► problem and now in your case now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► feel like you're someone at risk because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► somebody else might be in that position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► well yeah but somebody else is really in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► that position and you know and i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► hear the mantra that other people say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► particularly when it gets down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► wire when they say you know when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► look back on this are you gonna feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► like you did everything that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► do you want to look back at this and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► feel like you you didn't pull out all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► the stops and what that I think for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► lot of people means as you near the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► finish line is if there's somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► running abreast of you or running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► little bit ahead of you you triple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► instead of running your own campaign as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► well as you can and may the best man win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► alright maybe you know you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► and politics I guess everywhere there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► that it's this healthy dose of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► here's my platform here's my campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► and also did you ever see generally look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► at the other guy didn't really notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► did you really notice I was knows a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► little crooked like theirs theirs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► that aspect where it's presented as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► you should look at the two two of us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► pick the best one but you know but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► this Swift boating all this extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► information about the other person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► isn't true that's the that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► yeah and you know it speaks to it speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► yeah here's an interesting insight i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► recently which is that i have i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► quite a few friends in Seattle who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► old friends in friends more than 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► years who are active in the political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► chatter there they'll never run for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► office themselves but they are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► chatterers there on the internet there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► put their public figures they're well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► known as as members of a kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► yeah right the Intelligencia then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► nattering nabobs and although these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► friends of mine are you know liberals in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► every way they're on the wrong side of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► couple of issues they were both on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► wrong side of fifteen dollars an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► minimum wage because they are business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► their small business owners and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► didn't think about it they thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► it from there from the terms of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► own bottom line rather than from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► long-term you know not just long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► benefit of everybody but also like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► did not sense which way the political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► and they came out vocally against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► fifteen dollars an hour at a time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► think they both thought that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► trying to be reasonable small business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► pronouncements and then defended their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► public pronouncements long after it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► clear that the the public wanted fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► dollars an hour and fifteen dollars an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► hour was going to be good and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► should have they should make up or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► should shut up or they should just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► know they should think about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► well so young political operatives of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► which there are astonishingly large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► number four right like there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► people in the their mid-twenties in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► political game and quite a few of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► have come up to me and said with a with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► a like a sneer like a sneer and a spin a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► and a and a smirk an ugly smirk have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► said we're very concerned about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► relationship with these two guys and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► first response was like what do you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► I've known those guys for 25 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► well yeah but they're on the wrong side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► of history there on the wrong side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► politics who and I go oh yeah right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► mean I totally disagree with them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► disagreed with them at the time and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► right-thinking person disagrees with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► them but now they're like damaged goods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► well there but they're still my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► alright lying right handed and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3355">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► communicating that within the political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► class it matters less what you say then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► because among those people it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► considered a more reliable indicator of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► who your who your friends and associates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► are then what you're babbling again your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► back to that that issue that like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► least we know what to expect from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► guy that's right and so the print so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► what I derived from that is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► premise is the premise of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► political class is that you are lying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► when you say things and that what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► true is who you break bread with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► that was a that was a shock to me right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► because I right I break bread with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► everybody and it felt like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► break bread with that becomes kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► dog whistle were like if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► really know what this person is up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► look who there that's right now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► who's that that's telegraphing a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► more to people than what you say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► you're so that is it's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► cynicism to say like what we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► everybody says what needs to be said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► that day but let's look over time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► who they are they spending time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► yeah let's look at who their donors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► whoo-hoo speaks on their behalf on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► facebook you know that's how you judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► where a person stands and it's and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► guess for most people who are running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► for office they've been thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► this their whole adult lives right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► that that they have always made sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► that their friends are the right kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► friends or they've all they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► associate with people within a narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► band of of on the political spectrum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► in the in the the work that we do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► somebody like me who spent his whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► career in his whole life like sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► down at a table with everybody and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► of them I a lot of them are people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► I love that I think are reprehensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► for the idea that you know that that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► friendship with them would somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► compromised my my ability to to stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► to them and to everybody and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► no here's the right course clearly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► this is the like my friends are over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► ding-a-lings there's the ears the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► politically like correct decision and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► that is on that is that is foreign or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► I guess you know like have definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► like non-traditional and-and-and-and-and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► very suspicious to these to these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► who think that that think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► languages is is a certain way and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► is what has been astonishing are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► startling to me is that the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► the candidate is lying is presupposed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► is by these up political operatives who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► who are some in some ways self-appointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► and in some ways see themselves as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► gatekeepers of this of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► operation the system and also the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► way that one could assume or infer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► everybody else is a liar is to first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► understand and believe and accept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► that is right that is so it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► if my same beef with hypocrisy that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► people who are most obsessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► hypocrisy attend either be active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► hypocrites for people who just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Fred yeah and so the way it takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► certain knows what it takes one to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► one kind of thing like you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► sniffing around to be able to expose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► somebody who has the same flaws and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► vulnerabilities that you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► and these are the people leaning in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► whispering advice to me conspiratorial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► like these are the people who see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► themselves as the in a lot of ways like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► they present themselves as the beacons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► of integrity they know that they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► the the the right decision and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► are judging whether the candidates live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► up to this expectation but then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► reveal that they are liars because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► presume everyone else is a liar and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► you realize like oh wow it is it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► hard to to enter into this world and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► agree to to be a liar and not agree to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3652">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► you not agree to presume that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► guys lying not agree to presume that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► that who your friends are says more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► about how you're going to vote then what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► you say um and and and ultimately like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► not agree that having an answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► everything is better than being willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► to a to consider all the arguments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► it's a and and so there's a month left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► before the primary and every day I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► to wake up and reaffirm these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► reaffirming them is reaffirming them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► what allows me to get out of bed and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► through the process and it's so it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► divorced from winning from trying to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► from doing whatever it takes to win that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► I feel like I'm running a like i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► but somehow i'm on though like I the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► other candidates are running on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► track and I'm up in the stands running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► around like they're on the road and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► sort of yeah writer I'm like running I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► running through the trees and swinging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► through the trees or I'm i'm flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► overhead and original that I made myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► it's like if you're Mario Kart goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► the rough part of the tracks not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► go as fast so so I don't know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► and i can i keep saying to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► closest to me like in a month i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► either have made it through the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► where which point I will have won an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► election a kind of an election you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► i will have won my first public vote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► that will confirm that people that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► public doesn't play by the same rules as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► the political class and that i was able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► to reach the public and that ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► the rules of the political class apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► only if you allow if you allow them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► or i will lose in the primary at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► point it proves that the political class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► knows how knows how the game is played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► and that is how the game is played and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► the public does not the public makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► choices basis based on the political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► class and then that will be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► instructive and very profound come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► the old thing that where you I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► allow yourself to to celebrate victories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► yeah you've already kinda night yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► the joy of winning this of inhabitants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► well kool-aid man I didn't say if I one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► that I was going to buy myself a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► shoes if I make it through the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► money get a pair of shoes and my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► used to do with me clean my room again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► ru ru you feeling like you're motivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► to cut something out of a catalog and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► put it up how many how many Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► costume did you end up with never got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► oh really OIC so it was a sliding scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► still see it I can still see in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► we had a piece of posterboard we cut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► out i think there was some checking off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► of boxes into this the perfect kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► textbook way to encourage a hopelessly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► messy and careless child to to get good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► at equal cut it out of the Sears catalog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► it was exactly the bat but the branded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► Batman costume that I wanted and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► really I really really wanted it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► apparently not enough that i would clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► my room and how how many times did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► have to clean your room do you think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► how how how long would you have needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► to keep your room clean to my head was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► suppose a month but it was probably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► like a week straight or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► it's just that I I never hit those goals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah did I ever tell you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► story about the time that my mom told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► to clean my room and I put all my toys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► mmm i can guess how that turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► nobody ever told you the story you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► yeah and then she came in and she looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► round she was like a good job and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► she opened the closet and saw the toys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► in there and she jumped in the closet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► and jumped up and down all right i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► remember this all because little pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► she's not a large woman must take a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► of jumping well you know kids toys right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► i mean it back in truth and oh my gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► that's the worst motivations hard John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► motivation is difficult it's difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► for me to figure out it's difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► me to provide everybody gets motivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► ya know honestly like as far as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► would do as far as a motivational I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► think fear is I think that's how we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► no no but it's also clarity it takes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► certain amount of clarity it depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► like what i think of the stuff that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► like that i'm doing or do well it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► like there is something nice like today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► you know we have a podcast we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► record this i will edit this i will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► that's a good feeling for me I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► I feel very motivated to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► particular kind of work because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► actually really enjoy it as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► motivation it'sit's hard as motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► encompasses so many different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► motivating right it's it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► what are you running away from rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► like what are you running to war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► so I don't know it's funny because I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► do feel like you know one way that I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► a simple and and fault tolerant person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► is that I do my best when I'm feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► good about what I'm doing and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► feel like you know I'm succeeding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► things like that you know from there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► other people who love being down in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► they love you know that feeling of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► oh I can power through this and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► i'm good at that sometimes I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► it's hard to know I did this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► a good question what motivates you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► you're not supposed to exhale when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► ask but you know what motivates me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► um I mean that's the that's what's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► wonderful about having done this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► now for a hundred and fifty plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► episodes is that it is it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► rare things that is its own reward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► who and what has always motivated me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► the is the hope that I would discover a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► life which was its own reward and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► feeling that the expectation that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► that life should be its own reward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► and that's why why I've had such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4075">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► complicated relationship with work my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► whole life because the because i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► the adults in my life really practice at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► really practice the be the belief that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► work was this thing that you did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► order to provide opportunity to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► opportunities for pleasure or relaxation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► later you know that have that yeah kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► kind of a Protestant work ethic idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► Yeah right there there was no sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► that work was its own reward that life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► even though i'm sure that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► I'm sure that the adults in in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► when I was a kid were enjoying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► challenges of work and the teachers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► my school were enjoy you know where were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► we're we're teaching us that we could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► to work and enjoy it but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► remember anyone in school saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► know you're gonna find a job that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► going to love nobody nobody would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► put that anywhere near the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► I knew it was much more the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► people treated being married and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► another decade or century which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► well you need to get along with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► person and if things work out well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► youyou might be kind of in love for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► long time but it was but I mean anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► sensible would say well you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► just marry the first person you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► crush on this is this is work right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► that sense but the e-cigarette well a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► nap and I think I mean in a way we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► the first generation that didn't marry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► the first person they had a crush on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► right that was it that was a new ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► around a new thought technology for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► even the even the baby boomers they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► rebelled against it but the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► were taught by my mom found it doubly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► confounding and now may I see why my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► being somebody who graduated from high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► school in 1952 I believe 5256 maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► have my 56 but anyway but she found two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► things that now I realize why she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► finally on the one hand she thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► was so strange that that I and all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► friends everybody I knew nobody knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► dated to me there was no such thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► dating when I was in high school that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► seemed weird and slutty to me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► would be somebody who would go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► like even if it was just going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► skating rink I did not know anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► went on dates in the conventional cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► well that could be it but the funny this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► is this is the weird irony is that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► me it was more like getting a girlfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► or someone is getting a boyfriend or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► whatever it was it was this like it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► constant yearning for stable monogamy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► when I was in high school junior high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► no dice there but let's just say high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► school on the one hand like so much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► you know serial monogamy where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► nobody would date you would have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► boyfriend/girlfriend need break up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► anytime you have another boyfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► girlfriend and then did the normal state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► was your either seeking that person from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► monogamy or you're in the monogamous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► not everybody but i would say the vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► majority of people i knew that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► what they wanted that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► sometimes God but at the same time I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► zero interest in getting married and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► thought that was really weird I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► was very strange so my mom thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► strange that i wasn't like trying to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► know meet more people do different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► things you know be exposed in people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► from different places maybe not from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► school no interest to me like I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► that girl in my class to like me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► generation it was all about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► married and nothing my mom was some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► of automaton or something but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► that was really expected of people was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► that you're going to get married you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► going to have kids and just look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► questions that anybody under 30 kids ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► look at the cascade of questions and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► really felt this in Florida big time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► mean first we know do you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► girlfriend when you're okay are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► ok gonna get married and have a kid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► you can have three more kids like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► nobody's ever satisfied with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► progress on becoming the person they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4318">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► like you to be you're never far enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► along so anyway I'm just saying I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► eyes I see my mom's point of view now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► and I see the the paradox of that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► creating all this monogamy at a time i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► supposed to be exposed to all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► different people now and continue then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► after high school but i never was into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► the idea of dating it seemed like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► oh my god but ended so what's your story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► uh like you're like for example with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► your parents like what did you if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► could ask where did your parents meet oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► you know my mom my mom was in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► no no you know my dad was 44 solar ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► right ya know my dad was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► divorced from his first wife and he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► three kids and was living in seattle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► was kind of a player here in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► legal world in the political world sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► of big man on campus right in and my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► was had graduated from Ohio State and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4374">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► was living in columbus and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► living a pretty high style mad men era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► life she worked at a television station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► she knew a lot of people in the arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► world and you know when her boyfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► was Jewish and so she was part of a sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► of Jewish a subculture in ohio which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► a huge you know huge subculture there at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► that's that's sort of the way she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► always described its you know funnier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► and more little racier a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► artistic than your normal columbus crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► and they all drove foreign sports cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► which in the fifties were very exotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► you know Morgan's and Austin Healey's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► and that was kind of hircine and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► she decided that she wanted to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► world and she loaded everything in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► 53 Chevy and I'm not sure it's a 53 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► Chevy I have a picture of it on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► mantel i'm pretty sure something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► that and she headed west to and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► first up was Seattle because she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► going to visit a friend and then she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► gonna head down to san francisco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► then all points beyond right then she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► going to get on a ship and go to Japan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► and you know and around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► sounds like up yeah like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► she she she was the first she was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► kind of the only person from her little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► group to get out of her small town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► then she was leaving columbus in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► same way like I'm gonna go see the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► i'm not going to be tied down to Ohio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► and she showed up in Seattle and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► friend she met up with her friend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► her friend was dating a guy and that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► brought along his friend my dad as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► blind date for for this girl that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► coming from Ohio and they started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► date and my dad I think i guess i'm at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► certain point she became his legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► secretary she was working for the Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► steamship company for a while but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► like a courtship late fifties style my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► dad had a Jaguar so it fit in with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► foreign car like culture and he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► lawyer and dependable and a politician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► and you know she describes seattle at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► the time in the for the late fifties is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► pretty small town and my dad knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► everybody and he was one of these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► that you know you'd get on a boat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► get on a steamship and dad would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► sort of waltz into the bridge introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► himself to the captain and pretty soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► you know my mom would be steering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► boat for her because you know dad just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► had that so like really about you hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► like Ray Liotta you know walking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► yeah exactly just sort of he just so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► know he waltzed around but also he my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► dad you know they were on weekends they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► would go drive around the northwest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► so they they saw all the you know Grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► Coulee Dam and all these things them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► part of their courtship and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► drinking at the time i mean it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► variable one I told you I think that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► mom tried to watch Mad Men and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► couldn't watch it after a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► episodes because all she could tell she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► could see was all the details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► they've gotten wrong but you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► that first two seasons of mad men was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► really the era exactly the era when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► mom and dad met and you know him he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► a successful lawyer and politician and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► so but he was already divorced and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► was a very independent-minded woman she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► she wasn't going to do what was expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► and yet even so the pressure the social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► pressure of the sixties who was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► intact and it still put them together in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► a marriage where even though my mom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► my father was in charge of the checkbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► and my father was somebody that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► if you if you if you put him in a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► and you said here's a cupcake but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► can wait for an hour you get two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► cupcakes you would open the door in 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► seconds and my dad would be covered in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► cupcake frosting and that inhabited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► stripped off all his clothes so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► was no you know so those the the social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► expectations the gender roles even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► independent minded they couldn't escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► the the gravity of those roles in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► time and you know and as soon as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► seventies arrived and there were social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► movements that allowed my mom to achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► escape velocity like she took that route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► as fast as she could and my dad was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► enough older that he never really fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► was able to to adapt I get the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► that this seems pretty broad but I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► the feeling that you know we can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► the photos and we can look at the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► the movies but it's I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► probably pretty hard to capture how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► can you know take a drink how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► Germany there was in the fifties just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► how much how much people were not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► expected to like have a certain haircut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► or drink a certain drink or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► i think the part that gets left out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► you get that pressure from everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► around you there's also constantly this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► clock ticking like especially for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► woman and I i think it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► overlook we see that the old gosh why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► did you do that and the thing that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► think sometimes difficult to articulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► is this sense that you're not where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► should be yet and it's starting to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► and the more that it starts to show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► harder it is to get where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► supposed to be i know that's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► sure that's true in venture capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► projects and I think that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► true for a lot of men and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► women and in the fifties you know i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► in my case my mom had a long story short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► it took a long time for her to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► kid took her you know 10 years of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► and the idea of a woman of thirty having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► her first baby was like the craziest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► idea not the craziest but like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► definitely pretty out there to be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► that advanced stage and having your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► first child and which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► indicative of the kind of pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► people felt was like even know try as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► hard as you might you're swimming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► against the stream there's this constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► pressure not only to be this way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► also the idea that like hey these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► opportunities are not going to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► forever you better you better get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► yourself a new brazier put on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► I mean I think about that every day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► mean I need to put on some lipstick roof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► and get out there because i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► somebody said to me the other day it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► and it it was so arresting it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► another one of these young political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► people and he was talking about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► needing more diversity in the candidates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► and and in that sense I'm very lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► because i'm running in a race where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► just for white guys and so I am the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► diverse candidate but he you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► like we need more you know more gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► diversity more you know more racial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► diversity and he kind of like gesture at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► me and said and more age diversity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► it took me a second to realize that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► he was saying was that i was the age of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► a typical candidate and what we needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► was younger candidates I'm that man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► that being 35 was preferable to being 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► because um because something because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► youth is the new that youth is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► thing that is discriminated against and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► I was like it and it did it took me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► 46 years old that I had I had crossed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► threshold to people in their twenties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► where I was just an indeterminate age I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► was some times when I was such a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► way to put it it's like it's a girl it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► almost like with little kids where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► you've got kids that are there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► consider younger consider their age big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► kids old kids adults and old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► yeah it's like there's no difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► between states 28 and 48 right and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► really a to a little kid there's not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► twenty-eight-year-old still imagines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► that they are an eighteen-year-old but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► that 35 and older is is just old and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► you know and you you you you always are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► pushing back that curtain a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► but when you get to be 46 and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► realize like oh when I read in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► newspaper about somebody that's 50 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► old they're basically talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► people that were seniors in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► when I was a freshman her and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► and I am closer I'm closer to 60 then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► am 225 and yeah I that that is an act in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► some ways an accurate assessment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► that and yet we and again it's the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► the funny business of the the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► generations because my dad's generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► you became an adult when you were 18 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► then you very very definitely joined a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► pool of adulthood where there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► such a thing as young adults it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► know you could be just starting out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► if you look at pictures of of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► their thirties in the nineteen thirties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► they are trying desperately to look old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► right right and it was really the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► boomers that were the first generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► that made any distinction between being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► 30 and being 50 right then this but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► say they say that the the whole concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► of being a teenager was invented in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► something like colonial times but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► think it's it's really feels like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► armchair observer it really feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► the the fifties late forties early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► fifties or when they're really caught on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► partly because a market right but here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► in affluent society now there was a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► source of spending inside the family so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► that your cater to and they're all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► of things that were you know and also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► time when you could then that come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► your kids being a little safer by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► participating in these certain kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► activities he didn't want to go straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► into the army you been in the Army and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► you know what that was like that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► hunter-gatherer society i am at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► of my usable life my useful lifespan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► right at 46 years old I am no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► able to spend a lot of time on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► crazy this is a crazy thing to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► right now but I've spent a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► in the last few days crouching in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► dirt looking out over a mountain valley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► and imagining myself not in prehistoric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► times but imagining myself now but as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► subsistence hunter and i have my have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► lady's with me on the trail and i am you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► know and I'm meeting to keep this tribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► going over you know defended against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► wild animals other humans probably give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► find food and we know working together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► as a tribe but with the knowledge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► realizing that at 46 years old I am less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► useful to this tribe that I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► been at 26 years old and if this tribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► were were a little bit bigger if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► were 10 of us or 15 of us that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► much better but i would still be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► wouldn't be I'm not so old that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► be slowing us down for but you know my i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► would not be with a spear out at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► either against a bear or another tribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► you know i would i would have died i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► have a lot more strategy i have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► more plan but I'm a lot less you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► knees are bad right right and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► awareness of like the the tipping point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► at in their mid-forties where your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► go bad your your joints go bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► you're like oh shit and if I if we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► on the Savannah you know I'm kind of i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► a drag now I basically be used to bait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► uh-hum that so that knowledge but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► in the context of us kind of being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► first or second generation really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► first generation that was raised all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► along with the idea that there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► just a static adulthood but that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► weren't supposed to trust anybody under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► 30 and then 40 was the new 30 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► you know 45 is the new thirty five were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► the first people that have ever talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► like that and it's and it's crazy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► reflects how desperately we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► how to that we took away graceful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► adulthood and replaced it with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► consumerist striving youth-obsessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► desperate feeling all the time and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► kinda where the where the test case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► again this dumb generation x that nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► likes that it turned out was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► smaller than we thought and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► influential than we thought and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► out here kind of baking in the hot Sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► trying to figure out like how do you be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► 45 like the yuppies did it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► grossest way possible they were terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► in their forties and where the next you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► know the next ones to come along you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► think about my dad's generation by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► time they're in their forties they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► I mean they had done so much they rot so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► much devastation but they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► thinking about their age in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► shocked when their children said don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► trust anyone over 30 you know they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► horrified and now you know Here I am way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► way over 34 when they hanging out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► the wrong people hanging out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► wrong people when they build the AI love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► you and me from this podcast they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► gonna be such boring crotchety guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► saggy pants i disagree i think the AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► that they come up with if they are is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► not just see I think I'm if I'm i say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► think you might have a failure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► imagination here we're not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5338">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► robots that think and talk like us relay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► I would be able to take the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► we're not articulating well and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► a lot smarter and they would be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► draw connections like we're pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► at certain parts of this but we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► need a super smart robot that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► able to go and connect all the dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► think what you could do with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► like that i love that you pronounce a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► robot not just anything i'm doing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► think it's so good and it really isit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► it is a robot that we're building it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► robot and that that's what I i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► do not want a robot i do want a robot oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► man like a cling clang like actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► like with like a body made at n stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► may be so much more into that with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► little funnel for a hat I don't want I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► don't want like a like a real doll that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► like i mentioned the real thing at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► like the dead rubber girl but like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► have an actual like nineteen fifties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► like forties maybe thirties idea of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► robot that's the robot for me that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► actually says clink clank when he walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► around going Clank Clank Clank I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► like my desire to not be around other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► people that much really extends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► robots like if you tell them that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► well but that's the thing it because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► the because of the anthropomorphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► sizing that I do it isn't the robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► feelings that I be worried about its my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► own transference of feeling into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► robot the act of smirnoff problem that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► so just having it in the house even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► it was turned off i would feel social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► pressure to turn it on interact with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► hit bad feelings if you have ill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► feelings or guilty feelings about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► clothing imagine imagine a computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► yeah it's an edge off imagine how bad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► would feel I mean even like that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► I've never turned on Cirie I'll really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► because i do not want to interact I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► not want to have an interaction with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEOAXk2E/5461">TS</a>]