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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 164: "In Your Face, Paraguay"

 

00:00:00   this episode of Roderick online is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   sponsored by cards against humanity this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1">TS</a>]

00:00:04   month they asked Jonathan man to help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   say hi to john terms time was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6">TS</a>]

00:00:23   hello hello Marilyn Rajic online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/23">TS</a>]

00:00:31   hello hello hello rather gonna live Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/31">TS</a>]

00:00:36   Robert online bomb that's good bump to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/36">TS</a>]

00:00:40   cover you know is that right yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43   our song this month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/43">TS</a>]

00:00:44   oh I love it already it's pretty catchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   it is M some candy songwriter figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/46">TS</a>]

00:00:51   out a good cadence for our name em it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   a gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/54">TS</a>]

00:00:55   I've come online i got hello hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/55">TS</a>]

00:00:59   that's what we say that's what he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   he's he said something about grabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   your turpentine we look a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/63">TS</a>]

00:01:04   a throwaway wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   well you know we have never talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   turpentine I slugging percentage how r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   use the big week huh oh yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14   right to you tomorrow is election day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   oh my god em how even in this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/76">TS</a>]

00:01:21   may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22   no no I mean you know is let's see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25   mean obviously you've been preparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   your whole life but well I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   about that either but up but I so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   started talking about it is two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/91">TS</a>]

00:01:39   probably in january and then bye-bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/99">TS</a>]

00:01:43   March it was fully you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   people were rallying i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/106">TS</a>]

00:01:50   rallying and then we declared in second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/110">TS</a>]

00:01:54   week of april so when did the super PAC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57   get formed super PAC is still forming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00   the thing is you know you're not allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   to be directly involved with that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/123">TS</a>]

00:02:04   i cant and unlike other super PACs this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   one truly is super because a the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/126">TS</a>]

00:02:10   of nerds that support my campaign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   actually form a kind of Hall of Justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/132">TS</a>]

00:02:15   if you will and Hawkman yeah yeah does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/135">TS</a>]

00:02:21   and they're working on their invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   plane right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/143">TS</a>]

00:02:24   they have to build a crystal cathedral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   m1a1 man she gets all the good stuff she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   does yeah and the crystal cathedral also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   great that was for sale at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   they turned into a mall what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   that is that right i can't imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   they wouldn't that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/159">TS</a>]

00:02:40   deconsecrated well there were problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43   there were problems leaky roof anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/163">TS</a>]

00:02:47   well you know nobody said crystal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   going to be waterproof mm I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/169">TS</a>]

00:02:50   but in the Reverend Schuler past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   yeah and then I think his son took over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/173">TS</a>]

00:02:54   and i think it turned into like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   orange julius oh i see i'm not sure i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   haven't kept up and read the trades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/179">TS</a>]

00:03:00   actually you know no one said crystal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/180">TS</a>]

00:03:03   was going to be waterproof was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   that was the that was the working slogan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   for a sex worker and you as a fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10   rose McCaskey Paul oh I think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/190">TS</a>]

00:03:14   same person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/194">TS</a>]

00:03:15   it's wrong my friends oh man big week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   big week and welcome back it's been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21   long since I talked to you I missed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   and you were gone I was worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   you and what you're talking about that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   wasn't replying to your text so then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   was worried that you were worried all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   those two so much worried you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   were out of your comfort you were out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38   your ears place you were somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/218">TS</a>]

00:03:41   and I was just I was anxious for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   oh thank you thank you there's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   reason um ya know I IE had to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/225">TS</a>]

00:03:49   three different to three different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50   places don't like throw-up excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   travel and do you know what my inner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   Merlin is already rejecting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   possibility you know i just got a notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   less i got it i just got notice things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   less than i do fine you know now he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   fine i am you know it was pretty good we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   had some family time with the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   family on the East Coast and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   great i had to go to pdx is back in town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   for 36 hours and then went to pdx for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18   days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/258">TS</a>]

00:04:18   mmm got Pendleton shirt pretty excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   about just let's go yeah is it a is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   doesn't picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/263">TS</a>]

00:04:23   no I got it big may say the Pendleton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/263">TS</a>]

00:04:27   board shirt is wool and yet it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   machine washable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/269">TS</a>]

00:04:30   that's right and I want this to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   want this to be a 20-year shirt so I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   a big because i figure i'll watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   that you've got it you've gotta you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/277">TS</a>]

00:04:38   gotta get a penalty shot a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   that's the tradition but you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   can wash those things and put them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/282">TS</a>]

00:04:45   the dryer and the shrinkage is minimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   understand anything anymore between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   sous-vide and washable wall completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   lost but I look like Harry Potter in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   first movie like wearing his step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   brother is a you know adopted brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   clothes and if you just huge on me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   never saw the harry potter movies never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   seen any of them know is that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   I should do is it twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   well you know I learned from the 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/305">TS</a>]

00:05:08   hours of programming did with dan I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   didn't learn i'm reminded about how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   you're interested in the magics yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17   proof that we should let's wait till the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   primary server but I won't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/321">TS</a>]

00:05:21   abracadabra I think about it a lot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24   uh you know I'm there they're all good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   would say if you want one and only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   watch the third one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   wow so just go right into the third one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   I don't even need to learn the rules of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   Quidditch i'll figure that out along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   way which is the biggest scam inclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   including stadium deals all we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42   skating history of sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   we're gonna get so many angry technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   about this book which is it's a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   scam it's a scam am so I'm on my way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/348">TS</a>]

00:05:51   down here i was thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   movie project that I've been working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/354">TS</a>]

00:05:55   ok screenplay that I've been you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   they're mowing over which is a which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/358">TS</a>]

00:06:02   basically it is its neighborhood stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   fights as a which we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/368">TS</a>]

00:06:09   oh yeah neighborhood stick fights as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   as a an organizing principle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/371">TS</a>]

00:06:16   future society it's like the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   games meet the warriors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/379">TS</a>]

00:06:20   yeah well in the sense that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   hunger games is the reason that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/382">TS</a>]

00:06:25   that it's popular well is that it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   know it's populated with cute people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/387">TS</a>]

00:06:31   but you know how hungry there's a blurb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   Hunger Games turns on the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/394">TS</a>]

00:06:38   people are forced by a controlling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/398">TS</a>]

00:06:42   dystopian future society to fight in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   this arena against one another and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   and and the heroine is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   protecting the weekend shot you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   use in fighting they're fighting off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   certain kind of municipal original sin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   basically they are there any these kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/416">TS</a>]

00:07:00   have to fight as tribute because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   there was rebellious at one time that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   right that's right this is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   punishment and this is how they keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   beekeeper rebellion down in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   provinces or whatever but but but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   premise is that neighborhood stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   fighting is something that a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17   society would willingly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   enthusiastically enter into ok this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/439">TS</a>]

00:07:23   what kind of games meets your company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   softball team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   yeah or like you know or the longest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   what was the football game that took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   place in prison that was the longest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32   yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33   there we go against mr. Burt Reynolds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   that's right so it's I mean that may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   the longest yard is a bad example but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/457">TS</a>]

00:07:38   you know but but they are but but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/458">TS</a>]

00:07:41   idea being that people would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   self-organize into tribes they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46   do like on the weigh-in today so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49   blue angels and all the Seafarer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   airplanes are all getting out of Dodge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   today they're all kind of you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54   the party's over and Boeing Field justly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/474">TS</a>]

00:07:58   yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   boeing field two days ago was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   a it was a menagerie of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   different kinds of airplanes that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   three different performing air show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   squadrons there was a there was a Marine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/490">TS</a>]

00:08:15   Corps osprey there were biplanes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/495">TS</a>]

00:08:19   know just the whole just the camp train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22   of followers that chase the blue angels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   around and they're all getting out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   here and so the like all weekend long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/506">TS</a>]

00:08:31   all along boeing field there's been a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   collection of airplane nerds who park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/513">TS</a>]

00:08:36   their trucks and basically tailgate next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   to the airport just to watch the plane's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/519">TS</a>]

00:08:43   take off and land in some ways the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/523">TS</a>]

00:08:46   exciting part of any flight is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   take-off of the landing but also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/529">TS</a>]

00:08:52   another way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53   not at all is that the most exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   part and suddenly NASCAR is that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   you're most likely have a rack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59   yeah that's right that's where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   that's where all the other tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01   happened on the ground but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   watching a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   airplanes coming and flair and touchdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   it's like we got there but you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   seattle city of of let's say the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12   areas got a million people are so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/552">TS</a>]

00:09:15   enough to put 50 people down a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18   people will generate between 1,500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   people who just want to watch planes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/560">TS</a>]

00:09:21   take off and land and some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   those people with the big white lenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   on their cameras who are obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   taking pictures to sell em to James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/566">TS</a>]

00:09:30   aircraft manual if they still make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   but as I'm driving in so i'm driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/573">TS</a>]

00:09:37   along and i see that i see the airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   people who it's now it's just the drip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   drip sand drags of them maybe there's 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/581">TS</a>]

00:09:45   or 20 left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   who are the blue angels are gone now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   they're just watching like that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   will be there watching the experimental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   ultralights take off and the end and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/593">TS</a>]

00:09:56   thinking like there's a self-selecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   group of people who care about a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01   aspect of airplane culture and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/601">TS</a>]

00:10:05   how they're spending their monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   morning and then I i drove through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   georgetown and pass the bus stop and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11   the bus stop there were there is a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   group of people who looked like they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   wandered out of a comic con right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/616">TS</a>]

00:10:22   had the whole have the whole look but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   one of them might have been in a utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25   kilt there was a guy with a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   dishwater blonde ponytail their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/628">TS</a>]

00:10:34   jackets had lots of buttons and badges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/636">TS</a>]

00:10:36   somebody might have had a stuffed animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   on a lanyard around their neck pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/638">TS</a>]

00:10:44   sure there was a there was a my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   pony component to someone's socks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/647">TS</a>]

00:10:52   I'm like okay now there's another group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   of people self-selecting into a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/653">TS</a>]

00:10:57   tribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/657">TS</a>]

00:10:58   I don't know why they're here why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   they're waiting at this bus stop where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   they would have come from where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/661">TS</a>]

00:11:02   going and then I started thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   my stick fighting screenplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07   mhm is the way like the Warriors part I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10   like the idea of the year whatever group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   you're coming together with there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   strong brand presence strong brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   that's exactly right the warrior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   is it is a perfect example right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   don't fuck with the Wong's that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   for you get those baseball guys baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   furies yeah the guys in the in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   the silca the like the silk suits up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/685">TS</a>]

00:11:31   so I'm thinking but here's the here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   the question for you and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   this is something I feel like we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   pose to our to our listeners there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/697">TS</a>]

00:11:42   to be some combat rules right you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   want to just be because if there weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   any combat rules right the snipers would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   win every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   oh right right now right you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   have each kid just like it's it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   just be a free-for-all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/716">TS</a>]

00:11:57   let's never was never intended to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   fight to the death that's why it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   stick fight stick fight that's right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   like but so there needs to be combat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05   rules that those combat rules need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   also incorporate modern technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/727">TS</a>]

00:12:11   because some of the tribes are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   be technologists oh IC right so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   just like ups are you can only fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   with sticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/738">TS</a>]

00:12:19   there's going to be some group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   that work as engineers for blue origins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   for instance who are going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   we've invented a better stick and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   stick is made out of this and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   performs the following way and this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34   it becomes a little bit like the robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35   wars like the road was the weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   wouldn't make a little robot find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   another robot em right you but their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   rules their together gotta be rules you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   can we could be a weight thing it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   be a material thing but they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/764">TS</a>]

00:12:45   hack on that with technology to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   better stick that's right and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   going to be some people that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   they're gonna be like i imagine one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   component of the of the of the the nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   stick fight quadrant are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/774">TS</a>]

00:12:58   like the dwarves or whatever like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   there gonna be a bunch of bearded guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   who like to dress like dwarves in Lord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   of the Rings not that little people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   miners and forgers yeah right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   they're gonna be they're gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/789">TS</a>]

00:13:10   uh probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   normal normal size adult people but who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   really admire the dwarf aesthetic ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   right they get the kind of chainmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20   leather long braided beards long hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/800">TS</a>]

00:13:24   right you and what strange to me as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/804">TS</a>]

00:13:27   never have seen a group of six or seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   fully grown adult men rocking that look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/810">TS</a>]

00:13:34   traveling together as a tribe a clutch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/814">TS</a>]

00:13:37   of dwarves like that i cannot clutch i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   guess but a handful of dwarves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   yeah but would you call a group of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   fighting dwarves a teacup no no a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/823">TS</a>]

00:13:49   tempest I'm frustrated whoops yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   have to think about it but I either so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   much to like about this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   something that this is something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/836">TS</a>]

00:13:57   get this way more thought the night then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/837">TS</a>]

00:13:58   I realized well you know it's a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   it's a 15-minute drive in i mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   a lot of time to think so but then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   occurred to me if I'm writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   screenplay right I wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   realistic and so I would what we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   have to do is we would have to establish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/849">TS</a>]

00:14:10   a set of rules for combat and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   imagine through the course of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   history of this neighborhood stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   fighting culture where different groups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   had hacked the rules and corollary rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/862">TS</a>]

00:14:27   had been imposed to accommodate you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30   or 22 like Raina min and so you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/870">TS</a>]

00:14:33   want you want the rules of combat to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   be to not be too arcane but they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38   have to reflect you know they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/878">TS</a>]

00:14:42   kind of reflect the evolution of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   game right something specifically about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   baseball and how the game has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   over time as they change the ball there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   was a time when I guess it was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   going to do a spitball and they said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   know what you know I'll do that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54   that's not that that's not fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   that's right can't do that what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   have to level it or you know you change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   like you know the higher the goalposts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   you standardize things for neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01   stick fight to really catch on to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   viral if you like it has to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   consistency between the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/905">TS</a>]

00:15:06   neighborhoods right i mean when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07   change the height of the goalposts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   baseball that really altered the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/909">TS</a>]

00:15:10   game was hard to get a hat-trick so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   feel like I feel like that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   that you know I would i think i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   call Neal Stephenson or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   say like how would you imagine could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   imagine could you imagine ate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   assuming that neighborhood stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   fighting was something that we were 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   years into right we've been we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   doing this for a while I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   world-building yeah that's right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   web and the stick fighting had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36   happening in the early days were scrappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   and there were some people some fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   that were like it's not like it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   be boy stick fighting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43   to be really awesome before they put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   you know the onside fly rule or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   but now you know it become more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   professionalized I keep imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   backstage at the neighborhood stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/952">TS</a>]

00:15:56   fight championship where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/956">TS</a>]

00:15:57   different groups you know there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   there's the monks semester it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   like the one that's when I look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   link i sent you haha I'm just rewriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   the yeah check out that link it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   page dedicated to all of the gangs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   the Warriors oh my god so I'm so happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/971">TS</a>]

00:16:14   already the electric eliminators you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   the gladiators I think you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   thinking of poppers they were purple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   hats and that's what's that's right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   barbers that's right that is all furious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/982">TS</a>]

00:16:23   and what I always forget it forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   the hi-hats all the hi-hat come on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   minds they're so good they're so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/988">TS</a>]

00:16:32   watching them go through the turnstile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   watching the hi-hats go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   turnstile and then the yeah the baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   furies inhabit hons that the 17 hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   from chinatown em so let me let me ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:45   you this though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   so for instance taser let's say you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:50   a Taser in taser doesn't kill people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   a distance really it doesn't hurt him at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   a distance that's one of the things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   I don't want I don't want I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   weapons that allow you to 2 is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   there's no room for snipers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02   neighborhood stick fights that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   but a Taser could you could you get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   with a kind of a modified taser I'm know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   Neal Stephenson but I i think when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   think I think it's got to be I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   can some ways use baseball as a template [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   because baseball started out as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   this thing where all the fields are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:16   different and I guess they're still kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   of different but I mean you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   difference distance between the bases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20   and stuff could be really random and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   there's two major areas to focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   which are the logistics materials and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:28   construction of the sticks and then how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   you're allowed to attack so like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   soccer if you something decided to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   grabbing the ball and run around that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   a dickhead put down the ball that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   cool right so what I mean I think we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   have to start with the stick i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   thinking you have things like material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   weight length and circumference is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   uniform length can be tapered my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   medicine have to be found stick can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:48   lay their own thing is you can't sharpen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50   them because then it's a spear kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:54   you know like so there's gotta be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   and I guess ultimately like you can kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   somebody with a stick pretty easily so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01   do feel i feel like for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   science-fiction story to really to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:07   really capture what I'm what I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:10   to say about humanity i think it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   have to be fatal and at times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   oh sure i don't think it always has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   be there in my head I'm imagining and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   know this will change once Stephenson is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   it a little bit but i think it's a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   of people on the field with essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   like broomsticks so you can use it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   a staff you can use it like a sword or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28   you can use it like a casual day or all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   of those things you never liked you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   send it there's no ammunition not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:33   spin that's right no you absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   spend you could even throw but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   gonna been mean you know what they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   about neighborhood stick fights when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   know you throw your stick and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   gotta stick that's right then that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   that sticks going to get stick stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45   right up yeah that's one of the that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   what that's one of us there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   because they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   sportscasters and they're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:52   their own sayings one stick for the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   or does everybody have a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   well or there's a hunger game situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   where they're kind of stick some cuddles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   and chalets and stuff all like it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03   be when you actually pitched this idea I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   imagined it the way it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:06   happened when your kids which is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   out in the woods and you find a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   and then you start hitting people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   thank you that's right there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   there's something to that but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   when what you professionalize this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:16   assume it will have some aspect of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   not even maybe it'll be more like a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   a football thing where nobody gets paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22   but you get for education and but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   can have a you have a sticker bespoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   stick that you make as long as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   within the good like a baseball bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   right you can have your old i was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   golden boy that's because you never you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   never golden boy who you and your dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   can craft it out of the out of a tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   that was hit by lightning like Brian a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   you can rewind your own pickups or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42   out of your out of your the mantelpiece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   of your childhood fireplace oh it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   burned down by two are so now you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   reason so here's a question so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   originally the idea was that it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:54   of a gladiator contest where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   taking place in a in a Coliseum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:59   people you know the the the bread and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   circuses people were up in the stands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   kind of you know hurling encouragement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   and epithets down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   but then as as the game involved in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   mind I realized that that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14   surveillance culture has to play into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   any kind of future games sports right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:22   we're seeing surveillance culture GoPros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   Oh engine eyes the the the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:31   experience of sports and ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   football got those strange cameras that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37   track the action overhead you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   watching football is very different now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   than even a few years ago and it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   be long i don't think before there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   cameras embedded on football players so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   that you're really was having super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52   slo-mo GoPro action but with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   enables us to do is have a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:58   stadium but you know you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:03   special forces and and like SWAT teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   train they have those fake cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:08   oh yeah a little villages out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   country where it's a bunch of cinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11   block buildings and may and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   practice like going into buildings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:14   it's kind of like a like like paintball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   or laser tag sure like we're a little i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   like I wouldn't thing pops out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   building and you gotta shoot the burger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22   but not the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23   yes thank you exactly shoot the burglar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   not the baby that's if I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   sportscasting this that would be one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   my adages when your catchphrases right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   somebody would whack like will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   walk their friend and I be like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35   they're yo Marlon there is another god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   why saying over and over shoot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   burglar about the baby right then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:42   the t-shirts will get made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   yep people would know me as that guy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   it's on the one hand it's a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   primitive in many ways it's civilized in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51   the sense that there are rules but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   there's also a high-tech component and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   that's that's where you really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56   people excited about it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   participants and as as viewers so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   could build in the center of the stadium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01   a kind of Cinderella's castle meet SWAT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:06   team training ground a big you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   multi-layered set of buildings and laser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   tag you know ramps and all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   with gopro cameras all around it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   then the tech aspect of it of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   that you're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   you're watching on multiple screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   you're watching replays and and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   see you can see you can see more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:29   the players can see okay and maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   don't know exactly how this works with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   you figure there's what people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   field know and what their teams know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   when they've got their own surveillance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   means you get with the people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:39   crowd now and then you got with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   viewers at home now and that information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   could potentially become passed around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   maybe there's a cache of sticks you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46   hidden somewhere inside Cinderella's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   castle or maybe the old lady could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:51   in our games maybe she could buy you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   nice fleece and have a melty as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   sponsorship yeah sure and and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   you know there's that kind of like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:58   you know like a like horror movie aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01   where it's like don't go in their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   don't go in there like people are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:06   know really that they are participating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09   you know people in the stadium having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   different experience of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   people at home but there's a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   that that a the tension of of of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:19   our missions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:20   oh yeah and also i mean i don't like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   bring into pro wrestling too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   because I know go on about it but to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   thats that's a big component of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:26   where thinks you never know what's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   happen there might be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   neighborhood stick fight team inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:31   castle and you just don't know it yet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   maybe somebody from your neighborhood is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   in the audience they jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   they grab a stick and start helping out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   so now once we've established the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41   you know like the combat who now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   next part of this world building that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   have to do is how exactly are our social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:51   problems how are we feeding this stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:56   fighting like socially globally what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1436">TS</a>]

00:24:01   we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:01   resolving their ok you know like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04   example me I'm not saying I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   tossing out like is it cause based well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09   I mean if you're if you are if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12   from Brazil and your team wins the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   cup you have a lot of smack to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:20   people from Uruguay for for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:23   a nice i said i drive around seattle all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26   uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   every day let's be honest and the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   of people who are still crowing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   the superbowl two years ago in the form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   of some kind of logo on the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:38   their escalade yeah right sorry but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:42   always nice to Paraguay little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   shade you know what Paraguay has got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   lot to answer for who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48   but so what I'm saying is escalating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   that or or rather turning them turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   the dial up on that a little bit so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:55   it's not just bragging rights it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   just like in-your-face paraguay like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:01   actual disputes are resolved by by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:07   neighborhood stick fighting teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08   because i feel like as you ramp up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   violence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   you also have to have a corresponding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   increase in mistakes not just the stakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:18   for the team right those guys are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   to get more hurt then big you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:24   voluntary are volunteering to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   hurt than in a football game but they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:30   that because the pot the prospect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   greater that their success will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   people's lives also could be tied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:40   something like the passage of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:41   insurance bill right that would be sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   of a regional becomes kind of referendum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   like in California like if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   like the way ppl park you can go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   start your own initiative get people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   sign out right now and get people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   sign on it gets on the ballot you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:55   maybe this becomes a kind of public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   primary for certain kinds of big ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   precisely so people are like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   what I don't like rail transit in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:04   think it's a bad idea i think it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   expensive than the other people are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   rail transit is the only solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   modern urban expansion in cities i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:14   if you take it even smaller I mean even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   even on your local high school football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17   field you could work out whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   there should be a stop sign somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   who I mean kind of right on the football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:25   field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26   well I mean I to stop someone be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27   by me like if you're looking I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:28   you're not across the board a giant fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   of four-way stops oh no I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   them so i can guess which side you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33   beyond that's right oh so you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   like let's you know let's mount some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   yeah you've got to stop stoppers so then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:40   this is how the league's workout right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   you start down at the at really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   neighborhood level where it's like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   think that we need to spend the that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:50   know we need to float up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   million-dollar bond to paint all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   fire hydrants in the port a bright color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   so they don't get back over and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   opposition is like that is the ludicrous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   way to spend that money it's like stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   fight yet be any pushback from big truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   and then it work you work your way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   the you work your way up the ranks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   then your then you're basically on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11   county stick fighting team and your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   adjudicating like the school board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   budget and then just imagine how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:19   zoning stuff you get settled that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20   rights and net but then all the way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   to like I'm on the Palestinian team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26   we are deciding with this match whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:30   or not they're going to be any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   subtle I get everything on this tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   that's right and it's like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:37   agrees this is an intractable problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   we've been trying to solve it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   diplomacy we've been trying to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:42   with war we've been trying to solve it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   with you know terrorism and it we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:48   failed to solve it so does everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   agree stick fighting is stick fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   is the way that we solve all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   problems now it's like when subtlety and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   civility and adult conversation fails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   maybe it's time to pick up a stick maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   it's time thank you to pick up a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   and see that's another great catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   phrase and I feel like that maybe is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:05   league that at some point that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   phrase for the league got the stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   yeah you know what at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   you gotta pick up the stick huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   so but this is a lot of world-building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   in order to then distill it down temp to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:21   you know to write a script for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   romantic comedy publisher is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   meet-cute maybe people on different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   sides of the stick fight me course at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   the core of the movie there's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:30   this changes everything I don't know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   a rom-com this is this that's terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   well what other kind of movie is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   right i don't want to the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   hunger games is there's it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   hysterical and yet there's a rom-com at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   the center of it right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   everybody's just like oh that's so weepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46   and I think that's a tenant of of young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   adult fiction maybe you're thinking more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   like old adult fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   I mean when you and I were uh one when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   we were young adults was that was our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   young adult fiction that weepy i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00   know i think it's got a lot more energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   over time you got a lot more vampires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   and implicit intercourse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05   hmm there's no refresher course on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08   stick field although I have to say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   original Red Dawn film em and I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   that I even had to appellate isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   a shame the original but you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:19   there was that was pretty histrionic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   there was a lot of like there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   a lot of young men over emoting in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   movie I see if so many directions you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   can go and i know you're pretty busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   right now but I mean you know I'll i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   think it helps also think in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   the franchise right like they knew there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:36   was gonna be a whole bunch of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   entire game films you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   discovered in time they want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   more star wars movies if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   build a world then you you get to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   how that story is told so maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   first one the one that really get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   of the Avengers of stick fighting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   like there's just the one big movie with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   lots of big fights and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   but you could also have stuff like then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   go to a prequel that explains the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58   genesis of stick fighting and but from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59   the sprint from this primitive simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   days before GoPros right i see so I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   so we start somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   Waverly Graham and John you gotta grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   an early on with the dwarves and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08   hi-hats and all the other yea big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   characters in the stick fights yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   yo-yos the xylophones the stevedores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:14   they're only have to get that got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   ding-a-lings you got the backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   shanghai Sultan's that's right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   right and and so those guys are all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   like we fade in on the scenes yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:27   interview with the way i originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   imagined this was that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:30   yeah I think I was backstage at madison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   square garden or something i'm walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   around there's all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:34   tribes of people wandering around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   backstage in this cavernous environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   and i kinda just started to see them my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   eyes kind of unfocused and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   you know what if that group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   and I think we talked about this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   original stick fighting episode where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:49   was like the night that that girl that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   met with the nike swoosh tattoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   I was like the Nike that curl is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   branding herself for the rest of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   life with a nike and and so I was but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:03   was watching these people walk by and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   was like now what if every one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   people walking past was wearing a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:11   of a tunic that that Kennedy was a was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:20   call out to the Crusades right like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   come here come the Christians they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24   all got a ball got a big cross on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:27   chest and then here you know here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   the only this big dressing gowns like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   big dressing gown with my with it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   it with your emblem on it and so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:36   said instead of instead of a a lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   rampant you you got you got you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   tide logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   yeah and exactly but but in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   right like like Islam is a killer brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:50   but show but so is coca-cola slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:55   different kind of killer and so what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   that would have team Islam is pitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   against team coca-cola in the regional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:01   finals I don't think there's any reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   that can't happen i think as you advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   to advance to higher levels you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   think you're going to see some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   unusual pairings exactly i see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   Portland hog butchers vs former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:13   congressman mhm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:14   here come the Nebraska Methodists who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   and they are in a they are in a pitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   battle with the Chevy Volt right coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:23   off a huge huge win against the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   ladies trying to use expired coupons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   walgreens precisely so I would not want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   to face those ladies they are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   what their top they do not stay down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   well I murder should they're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   should be some kind of I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   the thing how do you handicapped because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   you don't want to put the cue the coupon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   ladies up against like the modern war we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:46   do this by i would i would love to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   that but what you do in boxing right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   do it by in that case by weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   yeah I guess it's my way and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   but you still figure out like who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:54   greatest pound-for-pound stick fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56   team right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   ok here's my question and I I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   this is so critical to to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:03   whole narrative but i'm still not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   exactly sure I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   I have a good idea of what a stick fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   is for or how it ends when it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   bunch of a 11 year old boys hitting each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:12   what is the goal or how do you win the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15   neighborhood stick fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   well that's the thing it because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   we are talking about really worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   talking about solving really weighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   disputes the the end has to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:28   there has to be satisfaction right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   we have to get we the people have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   satisfaction if I am pitting if I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:38   am watching nike go up against I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:43   because it's not just nike against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   adidas it's nike against no no that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   that's the kind of narrow thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   neighborhood stick fighting is gonna is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50   gonna just get rid of right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   mikey against apple or Nike against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   against paraguay and it's like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:59   the stakes right between nike and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   paraguay and if nike wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   nike tennis shoes beats paraguay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06   what does paraguay after seed to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:10   oh yeah kinda like when the two cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   go up against each other in the mayor's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   have a playful yet about sending oranges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:16   or or you know philly cheese steak or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   something like that to the other guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   right so but it has to be you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   that but something has to be selling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   get you're saying this works on two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:25   levels is what gets settled on the field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   with sticks and was consequently by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   extension being settled by that victory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   that's right and so we the adjudication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   of the stick ball was a stick fight so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   what ends up deciding the match in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:40   ring is does this does this result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:44   deliver satisfaction to the parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:48   involved do they feel satisfied so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:52   it's a case where it's like whack whack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   ow ok I quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   it's like wait a minute no a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2096">TS</a>]

00:35:01   hundreds of miles hundreds of square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   miles of forest just were transferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:07   from one organization to another 00 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   this brings up another interesting point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   then so can you hire out can you be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:15   the the Yankees and hire out like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   best team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   based on money or does it have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   people people who have a stake in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22   so this is that this is my feeling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   this is why I call it neighborhood stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   fights and not professional stick fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   because my feeling about professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   sports is as soon as it became free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   agency and sports were disconnected from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38   their region right it's all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   metaphor now you know you just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   beeping these baseball players just play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   for everybody at the end of their career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   they you know and they show up I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   Ichiro shows up at Safeco Field when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   they Yankees uniform if you can use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   phrase Utah Jazz without laughing Thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57   You a utah jazz I so i do feel like i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:01   feel like the point of the stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   fighting is your group you're vested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:07   group puts up your best fighters from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:10   within the group and if you know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   put the problem with that of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   that there are lots of groups who by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   definition are not going to have as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   of Fighters right like the like team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   coder is not going to put up its gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:26   probably have a lot of like big guys huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   but not a lot of like em tough guys I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   get you and so so you have to also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:35   able to use the strength of your group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   right like the coupon ladies who all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   way there they are strong they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   end it and they have to be able to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42   as a you know as a group strategy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:45   have to use their strategy right to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:49   this old so the game would have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   modified in the coupon ladies thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   point of the game might be that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   to get through the checkout and back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   home before the ramen boils over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   mmm using a neighborhood level it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   be something really lonely too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   on-the-nose it could be something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:05   simple as the ladies trying to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   expired coupons at walgreens vs let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   let's just say it walgreens employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   Oh interesting I mean there's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   many ways that this world couldn't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   them here i'm saying this helps me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17   because the thing is if they if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   really toss and it's a sanction sanction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   neighborhood stick fight and just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   the sake of argument let's say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:25   ladies with the expired coupons win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   right i mean i've really hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   doesn't happen but if they win then from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   and a corporate level walgreens has got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   to take expired coupons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   end of story if you wanna rematch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37   there's gotta be some kind of stakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   where the you know some skin in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   but I guess you're saying this goes way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   beyond the field and this I right now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   would say there are a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   where I would say listen stick fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   is my idea but it's not that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   actually gonna get down on the field and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52   stick fight I mean I'm up in the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   I'm up there counting the money i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   a stick fighter right I'm an impresario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   your steak lover but if you pitted value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:05   village management against an ad-hoc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:10   team of value village customers who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   tired of filling out there who are tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   of collecting 20 stamps on their stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:18   card to to get twenty-five percent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:22   only to arrive with their filled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   stamp card and find the promotion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   over and the and the dates you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30   it was only good for three weeks and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:33   you're now now the time that you took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   and all the effort the carrying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   stamp card around and pulling it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   getting it stamped you got set 20 stamps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   or something and it's like oh we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   honoring those anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44   value village does that every they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   that 15 times a year they also did your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:51   switcheroo they do a switcheroo they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   offer they're like hey are you filling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54   out our stamp card and you're like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   thanks we're like really I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   gonna put three stamps on it for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2338">TS</a>]

00:38:59   this purchase they're like okay go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   give me the stamp card and they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:02   stamps on it and then for like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   weeks every time you go into value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05   village like I got a stamp card they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   like great and they stamp it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   you finally get to 23 go in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   time you're like twenty-five percent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13   and they're like oh we that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   promotion ended my first on cheese so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18   it's not like a coffee cart thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:19   the stamp card you could go into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   coffee car with a stamp card from four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   years ago and they'll still give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:24   that espresso it's some kind of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:28   some kind of bullshit trick and so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   have written that I don't you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   demanding satisfaction I would be livid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   now if I guess I had to look on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   google for this this is a value village [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   is a thing it'sit's used clothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   that right that's right it's through its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:41   a thrift store but it's a for-profit get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   what you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:43   yeah but I noticed on the sciences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   donations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:45   dinner you can donate this is that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   so they value village is a is a funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   business model they do a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   switcheroo on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   they do a lot of switches on you but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   but the big one is like goodwill takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:59   your donations and they employ people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:03   and they have training centers and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   you know they are a nonprofit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   organization they're kind of a good will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   it seems to me the Goodman goodwill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   more I learn about goodwill more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:14   fascinating they seen because they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   like a charitable pyramid scheme where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   they want people to come and go oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   there's a lot of value to be had here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21   this is a nice vintage stationary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   say oh well you know if you're somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   who has a disability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26   you could also work here so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   training people isn't it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   like not a Ponzi scheme but a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31   of a pyramid scheme you you can i come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   in as a customer leaves an assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:34   manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   it's a and B and beginning helped there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   is so much going on behind the walls at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:40   a goodwill that I don't understand i met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   a woman the other day who was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   chairwoman of the Northwest Goodwill's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:49   and I was like I really love your stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   and she was appreciative but you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:55   see in her eyes that the stores were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:59   just a small fraction i totally buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:03   I totally by tip tip of the iceberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   yeah that is what's really going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   goodwill is like oh the store you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   to come into the store is how nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:11   that's very nice and that and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:14   there was just that sense where I go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17   suddenly felt like I was talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18   somebody from skull and bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   it's like oh I don't know anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   goodwill do I and she was like no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   really but that's great that's wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   keep coming in I was like whoa Jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:30   asked a question about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   related okay because there's 1 i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   always thinking about you get that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   got you check your mail and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   something in your mailbox and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   something that vaguely sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   charitable group for veterans are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   talking about your email or your mail my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45   p-mail we think we go out and get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   actual postal mail and to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48   in it like a bag and a plastic wrapper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   imploring you to help someone so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:54   have old clothes or there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   a big pickup of your old and broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   electronics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   x and something something is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   help veterans for people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   disabilities now my wife actually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   this I i don't feel right about I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   there's something weird going on I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   understand how they're making money by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   picking up broken computer monitors do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   you have any idea what these places are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   and how they're making money and how i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:14   pretty sure i'm being scammed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   so what what I have learned I guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   that there are secondary and tertiary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   markets for old junk there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:28   like sub economy and good will not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:33   processes your material and cells in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:37   their stores but they also now have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   very lucrative online business where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   they take the cream they used to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   end up out on the shelves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   yeah and now they sell it online but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   they also sell material that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   collect to other organizations and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:56   now they are collecting material they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   saying like no item of clothing is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   shite to donate to Goodwill because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:05   can weave it into a bathmat yes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   they take all the old garbage fabric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:11   that goes into some other economy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   send that somewhere sell it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17   I've told you anybody who spent much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   time travelling overseas you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   come you're walking down a path and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   comes a little lady from some village [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   out in the middle of nowhere and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   wearing a Chicago Bulls t-shirt or a no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:32   or a superbowl t-shirt with an XML cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:36   yeah or scary especially with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   the name of the team that lost that year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41   I'll because they make them and they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   to go somewhere you gotta get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   secondary or tertiary markets but value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   village is an actual for-profit company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:50   that lives in this nonprofit space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   competing against salvation army and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   goodwill which are which are like chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   nominally charitable organizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   valley village is just making a profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   for some people in a in the boardroom I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05   couldn't their webpage really makes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   sound a little like a charity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   yeah but they're not they're just making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   money and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   all the time people like backup to value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   village and drop off all their stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   feel good about it and i'm not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   sure if you can deduct that or not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:21   uh but the value village a culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:25   business culture pretty sure it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28   like it's basically the next level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:32   target see putting out an old CRT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:37   monitor that hasn't worked for years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   is broken and legitimately trash that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   actually dangerous to put in a dump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   I don't see any way you make money off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   that unless you put it on a barge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   send it to China and have people be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   children tear apart with your fingers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51   understand how you make money from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   and I think that is exactly what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   is copper right i mean there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   are there are whole villages their whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   provinces in China where it they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   they're just children that lived there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   there are no adults it's a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   kind of over the Flies situation they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   living in a world constructive old CRT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   monitors and you know and there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   one kid that has kind of a monocle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:17   he flips down in front of his eyes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:18   see and check the quality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   material quality and there's a kid that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21   was a top because it gives a confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   thumbs up in an odd number and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   bunch of ragamuffins their kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:27   indistinguishable from one another and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   then there's like the heroic girl as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:32   like Mad Max meets Dickens meets Dickens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   Mad Max meets think that's how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   that's how pula will picture i see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   franchise going to add Max meets Dickens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   and then and I'm sure that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   yeah they're harvesting the copper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   and all the you know all the memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   right that's what they're really harvest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   harvesting operand memory step in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:54   getting the data out well and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   memories right i mean you don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   many your memories are stored in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   this part of it this is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   computer maths that they don't teach a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   man i'm no donating another monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   that's what I'm saying have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   memories in that monitor well not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   anymore they're all there on China that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   there's some kiddo that it wearing a top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   hat in China that's like sorting through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   them got to pick a pocket or two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   he's a he's going to employ them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   next and the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   well probably their neighborhood stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22   fights over there already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   there and that's where they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   right that they started in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   CRT minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29   oh is that right that's the case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   cradle of stick fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   yep well spotted there's so much going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   on and understand John I have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:37   well me too and not particularly when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   supertrain technology starts ramping up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   and all that that hard impact plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   that all that stuff is made of can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   converted back into cooking on you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   just just just send people in each gram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   and just say congratulations you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   acquired your dick ends in china village [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   of CRT monitors has been acquired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   oh so I so I feel pretty strongly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:05   that all this is happening with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:09   that you know I kind of want to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   ahead of it not just for me but for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14   it's everything is getting harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15   understand you know i mean to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   your example of the thrift store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:19   i mean i-i don't know if this is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   but my sense was I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   probably mostly true that when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   spending a lot of time in three stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   in the early to mid eighties I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   was probably mostly as simple as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   people would die and their family would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   collect all their belongings and drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:37   them off at Goodwill because what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   you gonna do with all these old tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39   shirts somebody maybe laundries them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   maybe and then put some on a hanger two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   dollars shirts or two dollars all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   shirts two dollars long sleeve shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47   three dollars whatever but their shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   and they're all from problem guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   from people in the community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:52   my sense is it has not been that way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:53   years i think this collection centers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   jet that up to somewhere else they pluck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   out some of the stuff here to send the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:58   kindergarten people in New York this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   other stuff here gets turned into bath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   mats and but it all gets redistributed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:03   there's a lot of trucking involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   the donation business there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   trucking and a tremendous amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   sordin that I don't fully understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   like I always imagined we need a monocle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   they're seeing something we don't see ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   anyway that's why that's a garment or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   CRT monitor you cannot possibly have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:21   enough ppl highly-trained that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:28   that mean it has to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   it has to be like a sluice box right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33   seven different increasingly small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36   layers of likely the finest of a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:41   in like mining yeah exactly like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   the big screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:44   we're just gonna take everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45   smells like vomit stops here doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   mean it can't be used for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   that's right but it's but it stops here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   and we're gonna funnel all the vomit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   stuff over here and then at the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   level are all the things that we plug in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   and they start immediately to smell like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   smoke and we're going to find all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   over here and then on the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   that all right now all all the clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07   at least have been bombing tested and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   all the electronic stuff at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12   doesn't catch on fire so then that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   to another special group that can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   at stuff more closely and say alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   this doesn't smell like vomit but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   definitely has vomited on it uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   and so then maybe like this something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   like you and me we're looking at sighs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28   we're looking at color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:29   we're looking at brand we're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   the quality but we we may not be seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   the memories that are literally being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   mined out of old men shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   that's right and the thing is by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36   time that it by the time that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   millions and millions of items are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:42   filtered to the level that we can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   worried about size and color who think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   about all of the thing about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49   tons and tons of materials and memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:54   that have been that have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:58   screened and where did all that stuff go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:01   I mean it onto a barge to CRT town or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:06   alternately to what I imagine is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09   kind of garment village high up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:13   Vulcan mountains of Romania her foo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   where they are taking all that garment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   all that vomit garment and weaving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:22   online also memories don't weigh a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   and you think that even while some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   memories can be pretty heavy but you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   you take the corpus of data and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:30   probably goes into some kind of an AI I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   don't know if we're at that level yet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   mean i don't know how we even know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   at that level yet I feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   goodwill does not make any sense it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   doesn't make any sense and I do I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   like they're they're probably filled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:44   in fields like the plum st a coil fields [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:49   but instead of like oil derricks and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:53   Blake burning pit fires there are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:57   like The Velveteen rabbits with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:00   broken leg of people's memories just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:04   sort of limping hobbling across this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   plain have you ever seen a rabbit with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   broken leg me a living one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:12   yeah live rabbit that's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13   that sounds horrible it's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   because the thing about a rabbit bunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   wants to hop everybody wants to hop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   also rabbit legs are that's a big part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:22   of a rabbit their hind legs and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   making way the ears in the legs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   anybody's got a fat rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   well yeah and a you know rabbit's foot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   mean remember to remember when everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   had a rabbit's foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:33   it's just what she did I and I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:36   one and I never I never had 1i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   they used to be real feet from rabbits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:39   they were and my mom didn't want me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:42   have a rabbit's foot it was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   you got at the state fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   no no it's got a bad juju feeling to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47   yeah right but people had rather their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:48   key chains were rabbits feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   what is that about I'm just about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53   for the first time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   yeah yeah a lucky rabbit's foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:59   yeah that's what they were called I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   don't I test something like that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:02   today you get a dreamweaver not a dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   people it's called give me a catcher now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07   I don't think you do get a dreamcatcher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   I mean you know back then you would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   a Pepsi bottle that had been an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   elongated oh sure you melt it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   really long Pepsi bottle but anyway but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   the thing about a rabbit is its foot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   its leg is a big part of how big it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   but the rabbit knows when it's what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24   fully functioning the rabbit kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   keeps its feet kind of tucked underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   yeah so when a rabbit is just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   sitting there is justly with his little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31   nose going you don't realize how how big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:35   his coiled haunches are but when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   rabbit has been injured and one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   legs is is askew or dragging well then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:44   it's like oh my god this read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   that's a big part of that rabbit that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   not working right now and that is how i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   imagine most people's dreams are once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   they've been removed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   the vomit garments or the CRT what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58   most the memories have been liberated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   from clothing or context there like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   limp limp rabbit there like a wounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   rabbit and then just wandering around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   baked plane that smells like oil there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   and maybe they're just hanging onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   those because they know it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12   useful for something they're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   sure yet they haven't built the AI yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   and they don't want to get rid of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   these rabbits unless and until they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   like fully mind the markets not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   oh my goodness that's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:27   screenplay much worse shape play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:30   yeah I'm sure thinking about it though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:31   I'm thinking about I'm yeah yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:35   know what I gotta quit thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:35   the second-hand market it's a it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:38   strange and then like you got the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39   recycling thing that's not to beat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   recycling thing to death but like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   read a couple of things lately that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   me think that recycling is not as simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   to understand as we've been led to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   believe I don't think it is at all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   think it's basically garbage plus i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52   think it's like the premium garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   where the way I understand it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   you know like when you go to the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   or you go to the food court or you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   wherever and now there's like three four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   five different barrels they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:03   labeled differently it's on credit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   someone the other day where it was food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   only plastic bottles and trash and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:11   whatever whatever happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:12   compostable cups like that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   weird but you know sometimes at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   airport that will stay right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   put all your junk in here will be sorted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19   off-site trust me right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   and so I don't know I want to be I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   to be a game or about it but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   the thing is like it apparently it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   out there's not always a market that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   benefits groups say saving green bottles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:33   you heard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:34   yeah what up you go on well what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:37   I've heard I don't know if that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   but I mean I think there's I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   that there are some things that are kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:41   of perennial like there's a increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   small amount of money you can get for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   for example like cans i think the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48   they make money from Kansas mostly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:49   the deposit in a place like San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   Francisco ditto ditto for bottles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:53   supposedly I mean it was like to clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   those bottles and reusing them they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   not like coke bottles for not anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:58   right right and so but the story goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:02   and you tell me if you've heard the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:03   thing you know how you know entrées [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   into the corridors of power it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   understanding that maybe this month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   hey you know what it's actually there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:10   there's not enough money for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   transport all these green bottles so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   we'll take him to the dump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   wow I don't know if that's true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   that's what I hear I don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   job because all the money is in scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   and arbitrage like so many things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   life so I when I reflect on the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:25   I use my own recycling compost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:28   garbage bins which now Seattle has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   extended to recycling compost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:36   landfill garbage and well let that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:40   just we just introduced a new 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:43   yeah we have for now oh my god and man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   like mandated if you put food and food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:50   waste in the garbage now it's against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   the law they I get frustrated sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:57   with our neighbors well that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   gotten better but the the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   person who lived there and since moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   out I think she took a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   joy and willfully I'll i hate this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:08   think she was deliberately pushing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   buttons that she would take you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:10   thing about the computer and it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   sandwich of styrofoam you got like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   different pieces she would go in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   just stuff to giant pieces of styrofoam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   into the compost like that was a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21   Wow now what she doesn't know or doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   care about is like I i use the compost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   like we compost a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   yeah and we recycle a lot and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   thing the guy with the mustache that MPs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   are trash or you know puts are all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   our different buckets into his truck on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36   Tuesday mornings he's watching although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   he is rather he's watching us that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   know what I think he gets ding if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   bunch of plastic goes into the into its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   own homes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46   I think I think he's going to get notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   if he doesn't get it right and then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   then he just put it down you know new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   dealer and then he puts up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53   passive-aggressive sign on that says you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   check off what what I'm not taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:56   because you did it now I'm stuck with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   styrofoam in the compost for a week so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   so this is the thing when i think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   my own relationship to all these bins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   yeah I realized that I am I am presuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:08   that on the other end there is someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:14   with a master's degree who understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:17   my intention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   and hand sorts each thing that I send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:23   their way with the same care and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:27   that I have put into which bin to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   them in and how to arrange them who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   behind of the refugees correspondence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   yeah exactly because it's like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   some rule where I lids go in the garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:40   unless a lid is eight inches or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   inches across and then those lids go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:47   the recycling well I can't leave me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:51   I like a soldier's coffee lid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   yeah like a lid from a jar food so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   your lid it's it's basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   halibut fishing you know i had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   heard this if your lid is under 6 inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   yet to throw a wetback but if your lid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:05   is over six inches then it it's in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   special category of lids that go to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   get that and I imagine at the recycling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   plant the lids go by and there's someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   there paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:16   I you know with again with a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   jeweler's loupe and a and a and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:23   yardstick that's grabbing lids off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   conveyor belt is like the lids are mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   I'm the lid the lid person and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30   all they have a separate kind of man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31   they're sorting lids and they have plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   for all the lids and that because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34   thing is it's not by MIT it's not by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37   composition write a plastic lid that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39   over six inches and a metal lid that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   over six inches both fulfilled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   six-inch rule but they are made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   completely different stuff and so as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:50   far as I read the instructions both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   those lids are recyclable whereas a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   4-inch lid that's made of aluminum and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   4-inch little that's made a plastic both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   go in the garbage and so when I picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:02   the recycling center i think of it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   miraculous place it literally is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   the idea of super train came from a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:11   this like this temple where hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:15   trained people are going through our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:18   garbage and turning that garbage into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21   the Diamonds of remade repurposed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:30   basic materials but i but as you as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:34   say and as I think about it now of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   course that's not happening it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38   just going into the it's all going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   a freight car and just being dumped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   the ocean because the truth is if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:46   whole process is not confusing though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49   the more confusing this process is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   more likely it is they're actually doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   something with any of the stuff if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   use everything called recycling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:56   every throw stuff in there but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:57   pretty good chance a lot of stuff gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   thrown away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   thrown away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   right and I think about when we started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   doing recycling at my college circa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   nineteen eighty-six we clean up after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   party and we would have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   garbage cans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:07   this one is for aluminum cans right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   one's for clear bottles this one's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   green bottles this one's for brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:12   bottles because no reset back to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   sure the technology's changed or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   imagine it has but back then that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   wanted to go get the stuff recycled you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19   do the sorting yourself right there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   just just just pure acceptance at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:24   place it did that but you had to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25   bring the right stuff that's right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   delete things perplexing to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   what do you do what what do they do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   plastic to recycle it they melted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34   I keep thinking that that's what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37   that they that they melt it down and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   it back to its pure essence which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   know they make dinosaurs out of her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:42   you're like a playground equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   Yeah right there they make they make our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   higher our nation's highways something's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:50   not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:51   something something something feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   weird about this and this is why I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   is why i feel like the next technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:56   and if I were Elon Musk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:59   I would stand boy if I were here lon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02   must boy where would we start but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   the things i would be building i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   stop building a spaceplane i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:10   the spaceplane thing like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   billionaires got a space program right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   now and no billionaire it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17   has is working on cool public transit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:21   and I think what we need are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   billionaires that are working on public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   transit and affordable like housing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   the solution to the homeless problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:30   fewer billionaires that are working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31   space programs like one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:34   billionaire driven space programs i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:38   like we're covered in that area but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:41   fact that there there's not a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:42   billionaire that's working on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:45   shelters for homeless families feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:51   like grains balance but if I were Elon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   Musk I would be working on an a counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   we have really feel like this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:58   first principles of Roderick on the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   yeah like a countertop recycling thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:05   that's about this it's maybe bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   a sodastream smaller than a than a pony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:12   keg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   and it's the opposite of a 3d printer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   everyone's doing 3d printing now look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   that you can make it a gun or a keychain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   we're saying the opposite that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:20   saying that's right take what's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   there make it go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   that's right using 3d on printer you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   anything literally anything in the slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:29   anything that will fit in the slot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:30   put in the slot the Machine analyzes its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:33   composition and then goes about whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:36   process it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:37   it requires to either melt the metal or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   or the the hydro floor fluorocarbon sue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:44   for the chlorofluorocarbons apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:48   cooking oil in their absolute well why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   would you because that's what rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51   between coffee I don't drink and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   know coffee when I was a kid you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   put your grease into a folgers can my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   wife won't let out that allow that into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   the house because she's fancy well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   yeah you with your grease boy we it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04   becomes like a rabbit hutch like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   to wait for it to cool off a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:07   and then you put my wife will cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   top off of a Salter can pour it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   their like an animal and then what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:12   you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13   I don't know she wants me to throw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:14   away but in this case you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   maybe if I understand that this gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   the right level of sophistication it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:19   somewhere between the opposite of 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   printer in a microwave and let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:22   honest to dispose all but like you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   put grease in there because that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   be running somebody's car in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:27   neighborhood because there's a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28   collection center that decides what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   do with it based on area neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   allocations well so ultimately yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   right at the end of the at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   the the week you'd have a little brick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:39   of carbon probably a big brick of carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   you have a little brick of silver a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   little brick of platinum a little brick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   of a plutonium a little brick of my very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   small break of plutonium you have a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52   have a jar of cooking oil you have a jar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   of motor oil and and then you can either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:57   sell those on the market or you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   put them you can plug them into your 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   printers where you would then use all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:04   those materials again to to build your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   own you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   garter belts or or sure or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:12   was you're like an on-demand garterbelt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   yeah because what are the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:15   blocks of things oil right carbon value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:21   well yeah nursing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:25   right right family damn that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28   love love love love is always missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:31   ingredient right and so you so you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   you think about you you look over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   like hear the things i need this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   and I need the following materials to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:40   make those things and then here are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:41   things i'm throwing away this week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   these are the component elements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   those like I didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:46   neighborhood thing that we're almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   like you like right now we think nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:49   about having a place in Florida where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   all the water drains off into a pond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   like where there's also a way that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   the resources of your of your small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:57   neighborhood your block could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   reallocated on an on-demand basis so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01   talk about to take a penny leave a penny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03   two a penny penny if you need if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:04   need an on-demand aluminum garterbelt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   that could be delayed deliveries you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   this get this guy over here is taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09   all the course light maybe you got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:12   automobile that can run on french fries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13   and that could be sluiced out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   guy here plays a lot of online games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   right so the colors like guys like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   what am I gonna do with all these cans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   and two doors down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   there's somebody that's like what am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   gonna get the aluminum to build my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28   own myspace looking ongoing existential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   swapmeet leave a penny take a penny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   leave a penny take a pen mhm and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34   it's important to a lot of people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:35   take a penny leave a penny I say leave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   penny two a penny you say leave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   paycheck upending it starts with leaving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40   a penny you know em you know here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:45   another thing about me hard it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:46   be to build I feel like you on must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   should be thinking about by comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:49   not difficult it's going to take some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   resources it's going to take some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   it's going to take some adjustment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:54   going to take some retrofitting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   people are always doing stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:57   getting new windows or air conditioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   like how hard it'd be you get a tattoo a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   sluice and maybe that could be a 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   printer too so people are always coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   up to me at at Comic Cons and such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   yeah what is super train coming and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   like you know what I'm starting to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   to people like you know make your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:13   supertrain yes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:16   like when wet when is super train coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   what about now like super train starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   at home super super train is it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   last-minute party you know the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   it's a last-minute party in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   that it's going to be as good as what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   everybody brings so if you show up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:31   last minute party like this is losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   its like fuck you go out and buy some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34   ice like do that brings something to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37   you're saying supertrain is Stone Soup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   it's no I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:42   ah here's one thing I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   about it and I don't get too serious but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:45   i have been thinking about this a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:46   bit that like when I think i read what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:49   you say in your campaign and hear what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   you saying your campaign and like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   have the conversation probably not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:54   couple months ago about stuff like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   mean I'll put this in my words and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   you tell me if it's even near right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4018">TS</a>]

01:06:59   like okay there's stuff coming right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   we are on the verge of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03   Technology going from m2 like wow we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:06   don't know what that's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   but what are the smart things we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:09   do to start preparing the way for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:12   could come along and what the example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   gave i think was having to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15   like we're not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   here's what we know what we know is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   we kind of want to use less oil and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   less people driving a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23   gas-guzzling car around that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   reached peak that shit like now what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28   next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:28   is it self-driving cars maybe isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   publicize it makes it like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   every sidewalk you put down will be torn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   up someday like how do you how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   make that easy to deal with in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   future so i'm trying to think more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:39   like what does that mean in like 125 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:43   years is it something that you can do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:44   125 year terms how do you start making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   fewer dumb decisions and more scalable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   roll packable fixable decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:51   yeah and and in particular it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:55   hard especially when you're campaigning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:59   for office but really hard in general to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:02   see your cell and we talk about this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   the time but to see yourself or to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   ourselves as in the middle of the stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:10   you know between hither and thither and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:14   so everybody wants a everybody wants a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   solution based on where we are right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:20   because it seems like this is always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   end of history and to to be running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:27   office and advocating in some respects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:31   for like hey what we should do right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   I mean with what we should have done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   seattle was build a transit network 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:39   years ago we didn't do it and we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:42   have built 20 years ago and we didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   it and we shouldn't even built a 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:45   years ago and we didn't but now we're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48   a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:49   everywhere you look there's a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   transportation technology about to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:55   online i mean really in every in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   aspect is I mean top of my head you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:04   the self-driving cars which is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:05   that one or two years ago I looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   what are you even kidding me and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   can't believe we're not doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:10   I mean just the data on how much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   decisions something like that could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   you've got stuff like drones right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   you've got not necessarily kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18   killed people in other countries but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:19   you've got smaller like kind of personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21   sighs you know remote controllable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:24   aircraft heavily unregulated right words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:28   from the other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:29   ok magazine what you can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   electric it right the ability to store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:33   electricity has vastly changed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   last five years and that's ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36   the whole game because five years ago it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   was like electric cars what if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   to drive 10 miles and now it's like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44   they're electric-powered things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:47   going to electric power things already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   work 99 percent of the trips that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:52   take would already be electric power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   so you have all these other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   electricity can do like all those weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   bicycles that people use to retrofit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01   little motors to like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   we're very quickly going to see bicycles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:08   that if you that our electric augmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:12   powered up hills so you ride your bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:15   you're having fun on your bike and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   you come to a big hill and you engage an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   electric motor that runs you up the hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   and it's not you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   technology exists now but it makes bikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   really heavy and awkward and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   and it's just going to be it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:31   be kind of seamlessly integrated and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   the people running around town on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   segways that we look at and mock and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38   like oh my God look at you with this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:39   know on the one you're silly a Segway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   like really that was a technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:44   was 10 or 15 years ahead of its time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:48   all the different permutations of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   the the kind of personal mobility a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:55   scooter platform skateboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:59   as the as batteries get better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:03   motors get more efficient and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   stuff gets better they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   incredible innovations in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:10   people just like hopping on a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   platform and it's whisks them two here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:15   and two there that always happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:19   then there's also all these advances in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   rail that are I mean either you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:25   big excitement of this train that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   keep saying they're going to build and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   they're not building of the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:31   vacuum tube train or the maglev train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:34   from San Francisco to Los Angeles the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:38   technology actually is there it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   how do you get the political will in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   money to build a this link right but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:47   could build it and have a train that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   goes from LA to san francisco in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:51   hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:52   haha that would be so amazing and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:55   it's so it's a question of like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   right here we are we're at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:58   technological level and is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:01   direction that we're going are we going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   to build that are we not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:04   are these little scooters that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   imagining and little skateboards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   little electric-powered kind of mobility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   devices with what direction are those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   going to take i can see that i can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:16   it but that doesn't necessarily mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   that that's where people i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21   definitely know that if tony hawk can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:26   invest in an electric skateboard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:30   goes up hills that is still that still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33   functions as a skateboard for a while at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   least you know like that's app that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:38   gonna happen and so so from from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:41   standpoint of like we we need to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   huge investment in transportation it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:47   it's really unusual and weird to be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:50   position to say like what we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:51   should probably do right now is put our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:57   finger in the dike make the short term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:01   investments to keep stuff running so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:07   that we don't really scare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:10   you up this transition and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   everybody put their heads together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:16   try and start seeing like what's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:18   what is the future really gonna look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19   like because I know at uber I know up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:22   the boardroom at huber those guys when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:25   they're not playing nerf basketball and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   like sexually harassing one another they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:31   are imagining in the very near term a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:35   world where there are no drivers when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38   we're sober is in control of a vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:42   network of of centrally controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:45   autonomous vehicles who and we all pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:49   out our phones and uber become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   synonymous with transportation and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:55   plot the phone and the car whisks up we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:58   get in it takes us where we're going it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4438">TS</a>]

01:13:59   hit it subtracts a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:02   bitcoins from are you know from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:05   online account we never even think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   it it's not even a thing that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   to it's not a transaction you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:12   it's all just happening you pull out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:13   your phone you just say out loud to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:16   google glass I need a car and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   one there in two seconds and it's run by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:20   uber that's absolutely what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:23   imagining they don't want drivers they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:26   want to eliminate drivers and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   and for most of us consumers we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:33   to be like this is great i just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:36   just walk over and sending a car and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37   appears and it takes me there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:38   don't have to talk to anybody and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   and I don't have to do a transaction it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   just takes it just at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   it's just another eel that's sucking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:46   me and at the end of the month my bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   gets paid automatically and and i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:52   working for the company store whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:53   but how do city's plan for that and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:56   do cities say like winter we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   to Bert ubi the we don't want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:01   controlling that infrastructure but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:04   they are working hard to build it if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:07   don't want them to do it we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:10   to get involved we would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:12   envision it and do it ourselves or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:15   or regulated and the results the results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   are mean with uber in particular the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:22   results are so fast the results are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:25   immediate and the results have such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:28   high positive impact on influential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:32   people with money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:33   mhm right and i don't mean to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   you know overly political but I am I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   blood poster of an article the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   where none of it the nut is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:42   it's difficult it's difficult to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   punctual when you're poor like how hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:46   it is just how much more friction there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:48   is to everything if you like the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   you have your own control over your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   and in this case your transportation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:53   like the more options for convenience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:56   and punctuality that you have I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:59   can get there early and get a coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:00   unless you're getting two buses that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   or may not have you know time transfers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   and stuff like that right well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06   unless you have to figure out who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:08   gonna watch your kids all right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   exactly yeah but you know the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:14   thing I keep thinking about 9i I campus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   I can't just thinking out loud is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:19   you know if you think about the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:20   that the infrastructure stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   succeeds over time I mean at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:25   it starts out being completely bananas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   and maybe even proprietary and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   eventually it becomes adopted and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   at some point it becomes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:32   wasteful or obviated inefficient out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:37   out of the times but you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:38   thinking about stuff along the lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:40   railroads and then the gauge of tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:44   right like at some point i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:47   i'm sure you know way more about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48   than i did but at some point in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:49   have railroads where everybody's cars to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:51   go everywhere we had to agree on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:53   certain age of track in order to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   rifles where you could have replaceable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:58   parts and having a assembly line to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:00   standardize things like what those parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   are in and the level of quality and each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:05   shit I mean look at the bricks in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:06   building like what if half the bricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   broke or the CAF the bricks were an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:11   eighth of an inch bigger on one side or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:12   whatever it there has to be some way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   standardizing whose lego set we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:16   to use for this I can go to any place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:20   America that has electric plugs and plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22   in a 1 10 you know the device and it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   just work unless something's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:26   wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:27   it seems like that's the part that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:28   trickiest it isn't that we need another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   billionaire to figure out what to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   with the existing LEGO sets we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   somebody who can create open lego sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   that will let new kinds of flexibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   emerge and I literally cannot think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   better analogy than that but whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   ends up happening with roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:44   it can't be suddenly just caters to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:46   people who moved to town in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:47   three years and have a nice car that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   they like to drive like that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   doesn't feel like the future that feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52   like the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:53   well and this is where this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:55   like I the other day I was driving along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56   and I and a mini van drove by me and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:59   was an apple maps minivan an apple maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:05   is now finally sort of getting around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:08   the three-dimensional mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:11   three-dimensional photographic mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   of the world that Google's been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:15   for a long time and it it a bit rattled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:21   me because I remember the moment in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:25   own life where Apple decided that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:28   their relationship with google because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30   remember the original iphones all had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:33   google maps absolutely and then Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   decided that they weren't sharing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:38   the metadata they were collecting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   apple and google was like no no all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:43   metadata is our proprietary stuff there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   was a time when the head can google is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   on the board apple right and and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:51   were those were heady days but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:55   Apple decided at from a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:58   standpoint it made more sense for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   to build their own mapping program from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:03   the ground up rather than just seed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:06   google all of the data that Google was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:10   collecting about where people went and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:11   what it was tied to and so what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:14   meant for us the consumers was that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:16   of a sudden our iphones no longer had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:20   google maps functionality and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:23   now all millions of beta testers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:28   apples garbage map program that it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:31   them six years to get to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:34   now it only directs me to the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   address one out of seven asking Brooks I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:39   know real talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:40   you've you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41   you've had bad experiences with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   maps like like demonstrable a bad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:46   was flatly wrong experiences with a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:48   yup where somebody says hey come to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   here's the event and here's the here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:53   the the address and i click on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   address and apple loads their map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:58   program and puts it puts up in somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   and I go to that pin and it is though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:04   is completely on the other side so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:05   interesting i I've had a handful of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:09   experiences but at reason i ask is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:10   because I i can have to say that of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:14   the things like all the Apple scandals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   and pseudo scandals over the years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18   antenna gate and stuff like that amongst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   normal people like in my family people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:23   in my family who are still five within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   the last three to five years users of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   apple products that is the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   that pretty much everybody seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   agree on is that the maps the maps were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:35   total shit and now they're mostly shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37   and they would they actually will go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   get and use google maps on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:40   yeah i mean i had to because I I because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:43   I showed up a half hour late to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   important appointments right i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:48   i remember that recent one where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:49   respect as a candidate you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   appear somewhere inside you totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52   wrong place yeah was supposed to it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   my first meeting with the Chamber of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:55   Commerce and I role in 45 minutes late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:58   drenched in sweat apologizing to him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:00   I'm like listen I'm serious candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   I'm not just a goofy musician that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:03   doesn't know how to find his way to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05   building in the center of town my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07   misled me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:08   yeah i'm going to my whole life yeah my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:10   phone told me that your office was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12   this the south slope of queen anne hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:15   in a in a in a flophouse rather than in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:18   the reindeer tower but thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:22   Apple ID materially but that that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   example yeah but so you know and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:26   that ultimately is its beta vs VHS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:29   and where we are right now is Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:32   Facebook and uber and presumably all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:35   the big-three car companies although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   they're really lagging in this but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:40   the tech companies recognize that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:41   that the self-driving car and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   intricate oh and the point of it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:45   the car the point of it is that once all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:48   cars are connected to one another in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:51   grid of central control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:54   then there are no more accidents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:56   then it's than the efficiency of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:58   Transportation everything just goes fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:01   and it's connected to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:05   fundamental premise of why Google Maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:08   my google was collecting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:09   information in the first place if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11   know where people are where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:12   going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   you know and what their history of going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16   places is you have massive knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:20   about them and not only that but your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:23   you also are charging them to move you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:25   around like it's a it's a incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:29   system of of knowledge and control and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:33   every one of those companies is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:35   to envision that future and and build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37   that system and when they roll it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:41   but that he's my analogy they want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   there Lego set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:43   I want to be there lego set and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:45   they roll it out from the consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:47   standpoint it's it's just going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   like hey uh any cars zip all this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:53   great the future is amazing and the fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:56   we've already acquiesced to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58   companies knowing you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01   geo-locating are photographs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:04   connecting it all to everything you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:07   to our amazon accounts and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:08   they know about us everybody's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   completely rolled over on that privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:13   stuff that we were so terrified about 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   years ago because of the convenience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   the fact that oh it's fine you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19   I go into amazon it just knows what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:21   wanted when I put to perturb and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23   that is when that is true of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:25   transportation also i mean it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:29   there's a lot to philosophize about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:32   right but from the standpoint of a city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   and the way a city runs you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:37   amazing to me is that out that I've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   in and sat in the boardroom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   Teamsters Union here several times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   talked to several different groups of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   Teamsters and in the short term they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:49   very interested in unionizing huber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:51   drivers and and because drivers are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:55   that's what the Teamsters are they must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:58   see that as a stopgap though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5038">TS</a>]

01:23:59   well but that's not a thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01   want to talk about they do not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:04   talk about the fact that all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:07   groups right now are all working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:09   furiously to eliminate drivers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:14   eliminate all kinds of drivers and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   millions of jobs will disappear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:19   truck drivers bus drivers taxi drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:22   drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:23   I mean it's a it's a major job for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:26   middle-class people right it's all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:30   away and teachers don't want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:33   about it and they don't want to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:34   about it right now they want to they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   want to unionize uber drivers they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:39   to you know get out ahead of of what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:42   the short-term problem which is taxi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:46   drivers are unionized but uber drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:49   aren't but the near term problem which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:52   isn't even that far out which is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   y'all jobs are going away to be replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:59   by a you know a massive overarching grid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:07   and that is undeniably the future in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:13   lifetimes and we're not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:17   who controls it or or how it integrates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:23   and and as far as i can tell right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:26   there's like all these companies are be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   furiously beavering away because nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:31   wants to be the Betamax so they end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33   being kind of like the early railroad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:36   barons who saw the benefits of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   lines that only their cars could go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   right so what do you think I mean I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   getting that wrong but I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:44   rather than having a policy that pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:45   us forward their kind of forcing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   hand of all these different groups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   making better progress very quickly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:50   all the stuff they want to have happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52   uh who are you talking about now Oh in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:55   the case of somebody like uber I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:56   you know how he really put it this way i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:58   have i might be on mixed feelings about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:00   uber you know where I live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:01   yep um there's a lot of nights and days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:04   where I just don't get a cab and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:06   tried for years that's what there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:08   and so I mean I have to admit that I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   know I don't remember but it's driven me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   nuts for years that like on we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:15   hired a babysitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:16   it's date night 143 date nights a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:17   and literally in over three hours we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:20   cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:20   a cab you keep calling you keep calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:22   for getting mad because you keep calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24   but the thing is every single person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26   that dispatcher is sending them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:27   message that says go way the hell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29   into the western part of town where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   will probably even get a fair back if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   they see one person on the street on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:35   polk street they're gonna pick that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:36   person up before they even make it make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:38   it to the Panhandle so I mean the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   of my frustration is like I'd hate using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:43   over but like there's not that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:44   better stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   well I'm not to be somewhere on time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:47   i but I hate what they're doing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:49   can't believe what they get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:50   and in the short term like as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52   politician I have to be confronting uber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:56   right now and the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:58   yeah they're better service in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00   ways and and the cab companies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:05   playing catch-up and they're mad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:06   uber is not regulated the same way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:08   cab companies are and that's unfair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:11   uber drivers are treated badly relative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:14   to other professional drivers and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:15   has to be regulated and changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:18   setting aside all the safety stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   yet the privacy stuff that they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:21   horrible about to yeah and this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:23   as a as a as a as a aspiring politician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:27   this is all stuff that's right on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:28   table in front of us that we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:29   deal with in the next year or two but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:32   uber uber corporate does not is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:38   playing the short game they don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:41   they are just they're just trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   keep us all off balance until they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:48   eliminate drivers completely and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:53   are we're down here you know fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55   over bread scraps and the and the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5275">TS</a>]

01:28:01   technology companies are our way way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:05   ahead of this and they do they are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07   worried about you know that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:10   worried about the unions and they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:11   worried about this kind of regulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   because they are planning to roll out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   this massive other thing and the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:18   question is going to be in the in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:22   10 years when you walk down and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:27   an apple product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   on your person and that Apple product is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:33   your gateway you your your chip is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:39   apple-branded rather than google-branded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:42   and you want a car are you going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:48   access to every car or just the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:51   branded cars and are not so different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:55   from music in some ways like if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:57   stuff you wanna listen to is not on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:58   streaming service here and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5338">TS</a>]

01:28:59   going to hear it and that should be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:02   should give us pause because that is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:05   these companies have chosen to to handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:10   the world of music or the world of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:12   movies are a lot of the other services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   that we want like we we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:17   absolute the technology right now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   watch any movie ever and any TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:22   ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:23   but we can't because the because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:25   apertures are controlled by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:28   different companies and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:29   different rules and they you know and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:31   so we there is one possible future where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:35   you walk out there and whatever whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:37   the brand on the chip that's your portal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:41   is it doesn't matter because it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:44   are you familiar with the idea of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:47   common carrier so the railroads for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:51   instance are what's known as common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:53   carriers which means that they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:59   they have to carry whatever people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:06   to move around right the the railroads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:08   are private companies but but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:14   let the railroad can't say like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:16   we're not going to carry that boxcar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:18   full of stuff because we don't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:21   you know a woman's right to choose and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:23   that boxcar has birth control in it huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:26   right so they have the railroad if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   are if you're a business and you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:31   stuff moved around the railroads can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33   pick and choose within you know within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:37   pretty general guidelines they have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:40   this is why this is why when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42   environmentalists go to Burlington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44   Northern and say stop carrying those oil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   trains like Burlington Northern can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:49   choose to do that or or maybe to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51   sharper point on it you couldn't say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:54   refuse to carry replacement parts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   our competitors trains right that's them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:59   in some kind of specific antitrust II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:00   kind of aspect of this right yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:03   have to kind of move frayed around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   that's that that's part of the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07   trust and you know it ultimately and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:11   then this is the thing we've seen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:12   with cab companies over the over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:15   decades right cab companies routinely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:18   did not pull over and pick up people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:22   color who were hailing cabs and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   a big thing you know that continues to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:25   be a problem but was a major major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27   problem and you know and it's a and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:31   violates the law but what all of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:34   done by bleeps and bloops right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:39   let's say uber I mean because uber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41   drivers rate their passengers to right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:44   yeah so let's say that you have a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:48   rating and all transportation you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:53   then and and and and basically we we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:56   into this world where you where its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5516">TS</a>]

01:32:00   autonomous cars everywhere and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:04   get a car where it but also it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:07   something even more subtle than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:08   right where it could be something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   it's like it isn't it isn't simply just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:11   that we there's not a particular reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13   but there is an aggregate to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   algorithm of deciding who's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   efficient person overtime and best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   person to pick up em like this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   this is this is a common user this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:23   VIP this is somebody has a high rating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:25   this is somebody who tis good let's look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:27   at the most obvious one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:28   this is somebody who's leaving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:30   high-traffic area to go to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:32   high-traffic area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34   mm that's very desirable for anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:36   drives so for action so that stuff so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:40   we look at the future of Transportation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:42   and we think well a lot of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44   transportation systems are going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46   replaced supplanted by this private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:50   infrastructure that's being privately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:53   developed and is going to roll out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:55   terms of these private companies we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:59   in a way entering into and the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:03   potentially are entering into a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:04   realm where transportation is privileged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:08   and all of the all of the the potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:12   of it which is like true mobility for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:14   people true equitable mobility provided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:19   by this amazing technology of on-demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:21   cars we squander because we let it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:27   rolled out on a for-profit basis based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:31   on these pre-existing like what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:34   you know do you have a five star rating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36   do you have an almost almost like a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38   a credit score and there isn't any form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:40   of redlining some ways yeah right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:41   cars are you standing there trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:43   get a car in the rain and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:44   going by you going by you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   they're going they're off to pick up VIP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   customers and you're waiting for the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:51   know the ramshackle you're waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:55   the intel car or whatever you're waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:58   for the car that's branded right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5638">TS</a>]

01:33:59   branded by chick-fil-a to come get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:04   because it's the only one that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06   accept uncredited on you know one star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:10   past like that the chinatown bus like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:11   you you go to this court of last resort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:13   that's really consistent in its way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:16   is is not the most convenient thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:18   that's terrifying to me and that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:20   thing that I feel like only city's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:22   municipalities only governments can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:25   intervene and say no we are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:28   control this grid we are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:30   control this system this is a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:31   utility not a private enterprise because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:36   it has to it has to serve the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:39   good and that is more important than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:42   rewarding investors early investors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:46   because what we can see now is that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:49   is inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:50   this is a this is where this is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:54   transportation future and transportation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:56   is a public good and not it's one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5696">TS</a>]

01:35:00   to sell cars into a thing but private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:04   companies don't own the roads and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:07   what ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:09   our future is going to look like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11   going to say like oh yeah we'll pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:13   pay for the roads with taxes but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:15   actual transportation system is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:17   be privately owned by these tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:20   companies in competition with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:21   and so cities have to get out of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23   they aren't no one is talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:26   and we're all arguing about whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:28   not to unionize uber drivers and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:31   arguing about what are you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   to put expect more express buses on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35   road and it's like you guys we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:38   be smarter than this but now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:42   thinking i guess and I'm I'm merely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:44   playing devil's advocate but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:46   about the position of pharmaceutical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:49   industry who you know well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:52   they're in the business of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:54   provide pharmaceuticals that help people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:58   have better health but in the interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5758">TS</a>]

01:36:00   of doing that they get things like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   patent where the only know only and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04   they can produce this allergy pill for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07   whatever it is 10 years and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:09   okay well now we're going to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:11   slightly change the capsule on this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:12   a different delivery mechanism a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:14   another 10 years out of that eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:16   that goes to generics now their case is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:17   going to be that there's a huge amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:19   of R&D in that is a huge amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:21   testing is a huge just ridiculous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23   development so you know do we set aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:26   that the argument that in that case they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   feel like that innovation is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:29   enables them to make those things do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:31   take into account how much of that is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:33   make your Peter hard versus how much it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:34   is to really help people with diabetes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:35   like where does what where are the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:38   in deciding what at municipal level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:41   we're deciding what private interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:43   can do in a common carrier kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:46   environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:47   I mean that thing I think there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:49   lot of cases to be made that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5809">TS</a>]

01:36:50   pharmaceutical and industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:52   I like a lot of our medical practice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:55   deeply broken and the and the capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:58   that is rife in it it like it not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:02   gives us poorer outcomes are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:06   medicine is worse or treatment is worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:07   that the time factor is you know is a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:14   extended by decades like you could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:18   that case and and and we should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20   making that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:22   but i think that transportation is in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:24   very different realm then Medicine just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:28   in the sense that like pharmaceutical I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:33   mean there is a huge difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:35   boner pills and and heart medicine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:38   yeah but the thing part of over success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40   I think has come out of the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42   make just repeat myself that they were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:44   product that people didn't even know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:47   much they wanted people who could afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:48   it and it makes it must make it harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:51   to regulate them since they are so over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:53   servicing the people who are in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:55   position of power to decide what's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:57   happen with it isn't that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5877">TS</a>]

01:37:58   struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5878">TS</a>]

01:37:59   yeah well and also its I mean the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:02   part of the struggle is how do you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:04   how do you get governments to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:08   kind of elasticity and smartness but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:10   think i think a better cop a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12   comparison is that when electricity was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15   first invented there were probably 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:20   different people trying to string up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:24   independent elect electric utilities in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:26   San Francisco who I mean there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:28   Edison and Tesla arguing about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:31   or not it should be AC or DC there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34   like that's to an elephant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:35   that's right look what it does to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:36   elephant there was a lot of private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38   enterprise and there was a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:39   argument of like well this was expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41   and when this is our proprietary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:42   knowledge but at a certain point cities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:45   realized that providing electrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:47   service was a common good and that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:51   couldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:52   we couldn't have 10 different electrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:53   networks we needed one and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:56   originally there were a lot of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:58   people bringing water to the city and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:01   then we had to make that a utility so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:05   there-there there's plenty of there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:08   plenty of models where you see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:10   something transitions from a competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:15   environment and this is why this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:17   argument for municipal broadband right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   that a certain point internet high speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:23   internet service passes beyond a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:27   threshold where it is just a where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:32   it's a luxury and it becomes a necessity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:35   and at the point at which it becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:38   necessity than city's needs to step in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:40   and make sure that because right now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5980">TS</a>]

01:39:41   seattle for instance comcast provides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:44   much better much faster and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:46   reliable internet service to the rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:48   neighborhoods into the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:49   neighborhoods and and you yell at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:54   about it and they go oh we definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5994">TS</a>]

01:39:57   are upgrading as we go and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5997">TS</a>]

01:39:59   stuff but they're not because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01   no incentive to write and so what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:05   see is more and more of our life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07   going online and those companies exhibit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:11   less and less of a and and innuendo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:15   the libertarian argument is like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:21   should they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:22   you know what why should they provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:25   public service there are for-profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:26   company and when you come up against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28   that attitude in a thing that becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:31   necessity then you say like well then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:33   we're going to take that away from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:35   no one had no business has an intrinsic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:37   right to the airwaves or really an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:40   intrinsic right to any thing that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:45   know that's just a that is just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:47   argument right it's just capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:50   isn't nature any more than anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:53   and so I mean my argument in seattle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:57   we need a municipal broadband the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6057">TS</a>]

01:40:58   should the city should supply internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:01   service the same way supplies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:03   electricity and water because internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:05   service is becoming equivalent to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:07   things in terms of that that it needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:11   be equally provided to every which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:12   sounds a little dramatic until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:14   really think about it but if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:16   if you think about the case of comcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:17   you can see those graphs on how I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:20   know if it's something that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:21   revenue enough subscribers but basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:23   in this past month the number of comcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:26   cable the cable cable revenue cable TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:30   revenue has now been equaled by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:32   broadband revenue so do you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:35   in our case like that you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:37   comcast or you can use your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:40   basically that's it's comcast that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41   that's really all there is in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:43   neighborhood period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6103">TS</a>]

01:41:44   yeah so I mean do we want to be subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:45   to the to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:47   with the whims of that a company who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:50   gonna be effective on a national level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:51   by different kinds of disruptions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:54   service would you want your local of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:55   electricity to you know be insensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:58   to what's happening and all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6118">TS</a>]

01:41:59   places that might and if the company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:01   running at something has a terrible time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:02   in the Northeast so now your service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:04   goes bad or something like that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:05   you want to in October sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07   firewall that service that is now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:10   become so much more than just a fun way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12   to put people on facebook it's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14   people conduct their business right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:16   is i mean it's it's absolutely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:17   necessity for rich and poor and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:19   poorest person in seattle is still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21   to have to log onto the internet to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:24   do you get off its I mean how do you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:26   do you do apply for jobs how to do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:29   yeah at the more stuff that we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6149">TS</a>]

01:42:30   online the more it becomes a public need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:33   a public good and and I think you'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:35   it with drones to there's there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37   argument that like what do you mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39   you know I invented this technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:40   drones and then five years from now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:44   our skies are full of unregulated drone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:47   traffic your we're going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:50   recognize that it's a municipalities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:52   it's ultimately like government job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:56   step in and say here are the regulations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:57   on drones and all of the drone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6177">TS</a>]

01:43:01   entrepreneurs are going to scream bloody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6181">TS</a>]

01:43:03   murder about it but if the drone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:06   entrepreneurs are not regulated then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:08   will be living in a in a Victorian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:11   environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:14   except instead of coal smoke its drone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6194">TS</a>]

01:43:18   noise as every you know as every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:22   different you know amazon's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:24   their drones around and UPS has got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26   their drones and and the city of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:28   Seattle's got their drones and the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:31   camera drones and then all the private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:33   drones and it's just like wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:35   no no no that's not we're not just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:38   it cannot be chaos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:42   it's like it so much like being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:44   ride your horse through somebody's yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:46   yeah it's like I no no there has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:48   some boundaries for like where that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:49   okay and that and and we're coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:52   of many many decades of lays a faire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:55   economics and many many decades of kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:58   of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6238">TS</a>]

01:43:59   ratcheting back big the idea of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:01   government does but ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:04   government is there to protect us and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:07   make collective decisions and as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:11   and there's a reason that the tech world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6251">TS</a>]

01:44:14   is libertarian it you know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:17   reason that libertarianism is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:18   core of the tech world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:20   well at least of the entrepreneurial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:21   part of that the entrepreneurial part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   yeah um and the and the pushback there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:26   all kinds of hippies making the code but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:28   for sure but if you want to be the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:30   to market and get the funding and be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:32   gorilla and you know the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6272">TS</a>]

01:44:34   blu-ray beach HD like you know what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:36   railroad my computer railroad to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:38   one that wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:38   yeah and and what that's going to do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:40   think is push us into a climate where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:43   there's a new brand there's a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:46   understanding of the importance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:47   government and the power of government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:49   and and technology is also going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:53   reform government and make it better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:55   what it does and and we're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:59   we're probably entering into a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:00   decades of of real tussle between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:05   between company like tech companies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:11   government as government seeks to assert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:14   that a lot of these technologies yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:17   were developed in your laboratories but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:19   now they constitute a public good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:21   now they need to they need to conform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:24   and and that's exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:28   it's very exciting because the prospect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:30   of autonomously driven electric cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:33   that truly are that truly have a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:36   equitability based in Brook baked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6336">TS</a>]

01:45:39   them like that is that's truly a social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:43   justice issue right people can finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:45   move around without the owner's expense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:50   of maintaining and parking and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:54   operating their jalopies I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:58   that's what those folks have in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6358">TS</a>]

01:45:59   no I don't think it is what they have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:01   mind at all but that is really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6361">TS</a>]

01:46:04   exciting possibility of it and we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:08   to ensure that that's how that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:10   how it rolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:11   out because I you know I mean if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:15   look at the if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6375">TS</a>]

01:46:16   autonomously driven cars that are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6376">TS</a>]

01:46:18   are rolling out right now there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:20   mercedes-benz got one that's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22   oh man this is really nice really luxury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:26   item these first cars that drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:29   themselves but really in a very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:33   amount of time we're going to realize i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:35   think as a group of people that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:36   taxi caps that all of them are taxi caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:39   and nobody's going to own their own one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:42   they're all going to be no I mean not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:44   push the analogy but no more than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:45   would own your own private train tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:48   exactly you don't owe you don't own your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:50   own Street you just you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:56   all owned collectively part of value is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:58   that the streets connect with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6418">TS</a>]

01:47:00   streets and if you're a super rich dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:03   and you only want to travel around in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:04   super luxury version of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:08   autonomous car then sure man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:10   maybe you have one that's your special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6430">TS</a>]

01:47:13   one that's great for you but 99% of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:16   are going to be so grateful to never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18   owned a car again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:20   I mean honestly the car driving right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22   now and and the cars in my family what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:24   we're all talking about this in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6444">TS</a>]

01:47:25   family a lot and and the consensus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:28   can we milk these cars until we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:33   need them and that's that's totally on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:34   my mind we have a leased car right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:36   and I i would love for it to be the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6456">TS</a>]

01:47:38   Carwyn yeah and and i think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:40   looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:41   I mean when I Drive by a car lot right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:42   now I'm like these are the last of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6462">TS</a>]

01:47:44   or you know there they'll keep making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:47   them but but people applied that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:50   like it's going to vary so much by area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:52   though because for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:54   ok like two places i've just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:55   recently Boston providence portland I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6475">TS</a>]

01:48:03   mean boy the needs of those cities can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6483">TS</a>]

01:48:05   be served in such different ways like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:08   the idea of not having a car is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:11   Providence is its mental like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6491">TS</a>]

01:48:13   it's like you know it's maybe not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6493">TS</a>]

01:48:15   much as in Florida in Florida is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6495">TS</a>]

01:48:17   completely mental like you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:19   a car period that's the way the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6499">TS</a>]

01:48:20   state is set up whereas here I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:23   will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:23   the reason we did this my wife needs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:25   to get to work in an efficient way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:26   still have a life but boy I we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:29   right on the bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6509">TS</a>]

01:48:30   I mean we you know if you suck it up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:32   little bit you can make it with public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:33   transit and a little bit of lyft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:34   uber but it's it's not it's not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:37   yet but i think it may be way closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6517">TS</a>]

01:48:39   than a lot of people you know in a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6519">TS</a>]

01:48:41   like Florida or you know Missouri maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43   it's coming some places faster than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:46   lot of people realize really i mean san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:49   francisco and seattle and portland will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6529">TS</a>]

01:48:51   be in la will be the first places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:54   well maybe for example since I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:55   going to mention this that I I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6535">TS</a>]

01:48:57   track down my reference on this but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6537">TS</a>]

01:48:59   know we have a huge problem in san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6539">TS</a>]

01:49:00   francisco i think it's problem of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:02   basically it's very easy i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6542">TS</a>]

01:49:05   it's money or its influence or it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6545">TS</a>]

01:49:06   lying but it's not that hard to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:10   disabled permit alright in san francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:13   at which means a you get to park where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:15   you want and be you don't have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6555">TS</a>]

01:49:17   for parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6557">TS</a>]

01:49:18   you can park in a meter space with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:19   disabled tech are the people who need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:21   those absolutely but the one count i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6561">TS</a>]

01:49:24   heard is that's there's something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:26   twice as many disabled permits as there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6566">TS</a>]

01:49:28   are extant metered spaces in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6568">TS</a>]

01:49:30   Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6570">TS</a>]

01:49:31   wow I mean how does that scale up I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:33   there's so much wrong with that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6573">TS</a>]

01:49:35   even know where to begin but like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6575">TS</a>]

01:49:36   it doesn't add up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6576">TS</a>]

01:49:38   I mean if it's it's sort of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:39   said with the like the train between LA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:41   and San Francisco like what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6581">TS</a>]

01:49:42   options drive for six to eight hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:44   yeah you can you can take a flight but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6584">TS</a>]

01:49:47   you end up spending more time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:48   airports and you do in the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:49   yeah it's completely inefficient when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:52   really there's there's these two places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6592">TS</a>]

01:49:53   here the solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:54   these are two cities that people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:55   get get from one to the other pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6595">TS</a>]

01:49:57   often more so than other cities is it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6597">TS</a>]

01:50:00   fast can you get to burbank that fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:01   no but once you get to LA you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6601">TS</a>]

01:50:03   burbank you'll be good that smile can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6603">TS</a>]

01:50:05   accomplished lots of different ways we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6605">TS</a>]

01:50:06   don't need a train between every city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:08   but like there's somewhere like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:09   no-brainer and I feel like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:11   all of this is late-stage capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:14   right if you zoom out just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:18   and say okay let's not presume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:20   capitalism as currently practiced is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:24   natural system that that God imposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6624">TS</a>]

01:50:29   upon its just you know what it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:31   thought technology let's just assume for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6631">TS</a>]

01:50:33   a minute yeah we know is really we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:35   it really is but let's act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:37   it's not for just a second yeah let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:38   zoom out and see it for what it is which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6638">TS</a>]

01:50:42   is at an overlay it's an attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6642">TS</a>]

01:50:45   resolve a problem with a system and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6645">TS</a>]

01:50:50   you can see all of the ways that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6650">TS</a>]

01:50:52   currently failing it is failing to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6652">TS</a>]

01:50:57   the problem of getting from San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6657">TS</a>]

01:50:58   Francisco to LA for instance that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:00   problem and it is a problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6660">TS</a>]

01:51:03   technology's there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:05   technologies we could employ but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:08   currently the technologies and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:10   regulatory environment and our concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:13   of private property and the and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:16   stuff working together is making it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:19   very increasingly difficult not easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:23   it is harder to get from San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6683">TS</a>]

01:51:24   to LA now than it was in 1964 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:30   imagine if you'd said that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:31   back then i can read a bunch era if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:32   you'd said it's actually going to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:34   longer and be more resource intensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6694">TS</a>]

01:51:35   like all of the highways that we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:39   completed here here we are nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:40   sixty all of these highways that we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:42   completed that make it easy to get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6702">TS</a>]

01:51:44   place to place and these brand new jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:45   airplanes that are allowing us to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:47   from place to place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6707">TS</a>]

01:51:48   let me give you a little glimpse of 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:51   the highways will be exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:53   and the airplanes will be exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6713">TS</a>]

01:51:56   same except there will be hundreds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6716">TS</a>]

01:52:00   thousands of more people using them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:02   we're not going to be using the planes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6722">TS</a>]

01:52:03   you invented this year we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:05   using planes you invent we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6725">TS</a>]

01:52:06   still be using the 757 Yeah Yeah Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:08   right like like the the brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:11   playing the top-of-the-line jet airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:13   of 2015 is a minor series of minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:18   improvements over this plantation as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:20   Eastern in pain points while you can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:22   you know and the highways to and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6742">TS</a>]

01:52:25   internal like you could drive your 1959 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:28   Chevy from San Francisco to LA in 1959 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:32   and and now and it would take you longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6752">TS</a>]

01:52:34   now it would be worse even if the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:36   was pristine and so if you zoom out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6756">TS</a>]

01:52:39   little bit and you say ok let's start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:41   thinking a little bit bigger and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:43   capitalism is gross okay fine it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:47   everybody calm down it's fine i'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:48   communist I'm not trying to take away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6768">TS</a>]

01:52:50   your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:50   fuckin house I don't want to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:52   doctor zhivago apartment out of your out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:55   of your family home just hush-hush but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:59   can we can we step back and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6779">TS</a>]

01:53:02   capitalism is an idea it's a thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:03   technology and a lot of irregular a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:06   of the government regulation we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:07   that is also badly designed is badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:11   designed in conjunction with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:13   capitalistic problems like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6793">TS</a>]

01:53:16   regulation responded to the capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:19   and the capitalism response to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:21   regulations and that's an unholy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6801">TS</a>]

01:53:22   relationship and like let's zoom out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:25   little bit and just start to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:27   some of this stuff a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:29   calmly and purposefully and imagine what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:35   a better system we could make with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:38   minor modifications and some of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6818">TS</a>]

01:53:40   like some of that is we have to put caps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6820">TS</a>]

01:53:44   on how much people can make we really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:47   you can't just invent an app that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:52   can't just invent angry birds and become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:54   a billionaire I don't care i understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:58   how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6838">TS</a>]

01:53:59   I understand that you write angry birds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6839">TS</a>]

01:54:01   and it becomes a smash and then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6841">TS</a>]

01:54:03   cutting you sell your company for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6843">TS</a>]

01:54:05   billion dollars but you zoom out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6845">TS</a>]

01:54:08   little bit and you realize that's busted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6848">TS</a>]

01:54:11   that's busted angry birds is great it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENFljXg/6851">TS</a>]

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