Roderick on the Line

Ep. 171: "A Weiner-Shaped Hole"


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  hello I John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

  good how are you going I'm going i just [TS]

  had a lot of ramen really fast are you [TS]

  doing some podcasting today i have three [TS]

  podcast today [TS]

  wow I do like two back-to-back do you [TS]

  think that we have reached peak podcast [TS]

  go and we reach peak podcast from the [TS]

  first podcast came out that's all you [TS]

  haha i don't know you're you're you're [TS]

  on so many programs now [TS]

  yeah i'm hoping to be i'm hoping to took [TS]

  to like presage the peak post pogchamp [TS]

  podcast you maybe you'll be the last [TS]

  great podcaster would not be nice you [TS]

  should you should you should edit one of [TS]

  these and put it out put it together [TS]

  sometime that be fun for you it'd be [TS]

  nice to be remembered for something [TS]

  oh yeah he was the last great podcaster [TS]

  em everyone lets out last starfighter i [TS]

  don't know i don't want to edit a [TS]

  podcast I don't think neither do i em [TS]

  it's not nearly as sexy as it sounds it [TS]

  does sound pretty sexy I've always [TS]

  imagined lonely sandwich sitting in his [TS]

  lonely Garrett surrounded by screens and [TS]

  putting together you look nice today's [TS]

  back in the golden era the governor's he [TS]

  would spend hours and hours and hours [TS]

  yeah yeah I got faster over time but [TS]

  yeah he would [TS]

  he spent an improbably large amount of [TS]

  time on this lot of romance in it well [TS]

  so do you feel like you still have [TS]

  podcasting in your ya know do it i don't [TS]

  care how was your podcast reservoir [TS]

  right now is it full of great stories [TS]

  and great memories [TS]

  oh we had some times didn't we haha up [TS]

  what's easy with you because you always [TS]

  you always got a new angle you've always [TS]

  got a new thing [TS]

  yeah oh yeah always a thing you know the [TS]

  king of China's in Seattle today [TS]

  oh my god things are crazy right now [TS]

  yeah with the China has a king I didn't [TS]

  know that r is it not a king private [TS]

  from major premier Premier primary air [TS]

  from a overlay or a prime minister a [TS]

  chief chief chief poobah things are [TS]

  crazy and you got you got the addy I you [TS]

  get the pontiff [TS]

  coming to the east coast everybody's [TS]

  iphones are gonna be arriving late [TS]

  yeah i mean the traffic in seattle is [TS]

  already but the backing up from the Pope [TS]

  visiting all the way [TS]

  yeah well because yeah it's causing a [TS]

  major traffic jam back east and that [TS]

  just has a ripple effect santacon [TS]

  additive quality it's the to the [TS]

  butterfly and Charlie geometric [TS]

  butterflies [TS]

  yeah maybe one thing another thing now [TS]

  that's exciting and so-and-so YC there [TS]

  ah well there's a little thing you may [TS]

  have heard of I don't know if it gets [TS]

  all the way down to San Francisco but we [TS]

  call the Pacific Rim which is our the [TS]

  rim around the Pacific where you would [TS]

  basically where you would snap the lid [TS]

  on the Pacific if it came with a lid [TS]

  oh ok ok so it's a rim and we also call [TS]

  it it's like the ring of fire [TS]

  that's another word for it because it's [TS]

  a rim of volcanoes are in conference [TS]

  happening so it's some kind of rim [TS]

  conference this isn't the big rim [TS]

  conference they haven't had one of those [TS]

  in a while but this is some kind of [TS]

  trade deal where we're Seattle a city of [TS]

  700,000 people gets to pretend for a [TS]

  minute that anyone in China has ever [TS]

  heard of it or that it is that it even [TS]

  ranks in the top 80 cities in China [TS]

  I mean by the time you get down to [TS]

  chinese cities that have 700,000 people [TS]

  you're basically like at the level i [TS]

  mean like the 700,000 person cities in [TS]

  China are the ones that make straws [TS]

  Chinese amulet it's like drinking straw [TS]

  city drinking straw to do that electron [TS]

  they have specializations by different [TS]

  areas right and socially yet that i [TS]

  believe it is and so maybe from the [TS]

  straw district you from straw district [TS]

  or you're from paper clip down or you're [TS]

  from something like that you know car [TS]

  like you like turtle wax villa and if [TS]

  you live in Turtle Wax Villa that's a [TS]

  city of a million and a half people and [TS]

  everyone there worked works making [TS]

  turtle wax but [TS]

  just as we like to think that we won [TS]

  World War two even though by the time [TS]

  the first American arrived in Europe [TS]

  something like 80 million Russians had [TS]

  already died [TS]

  oh my god we also like to think that we [TS]

  are up [TS]

  Seattle is some kind of economic [TS]

  powerhouse of the pacific rim where it's [TS]

  just like you know there are 300 million [TS]

  Americans and their and that is a [TS]

  rounding error in the population of [TS]

  error that the video i think i did the [TS]

  video about deaths in world war two was [TS]

  all like visualized oh yeah that was [TS]

  interesting i liked I liked the guy you [TS]

  know that that kind of like take some [TS]

  data turn it into a a video podcast hope [TS]

  it goes viral [TS]

  I like that that business model that was [TS]

  very well made and it really makes the [TS]

  point that you're describing which is [TS]

  first of all you know we were not in the [TS]

  war super early [TS]

  no that's not a war happen before we got [TS]

  involved yeah we like we were on the [TS]

  sidelines kind of not really i mean we [TS]

  were cheering certainly but it wasn't [TS]

  clear like we don't want to cheer too [TS]

  loud [TS]

  we didn't want the other kids to feel [TS]

  bad that wasn't what is it how many was [TS]

  a 20 million Russians well it's hard [TS]

  it's hard to say because you really [TS]

  can't and i can count it right yeah this [TS]

  is the thing about Mao to its like the [TS]

  famine deaths like how do you count the [TS]

  famine deaths by the people that go in [TS]

  gulags yeah you you lose ten million to [TS]

  famine that's it's happening [TS]

  concurrently with the war it's happening [TS]

  because of decisions made by the same [TS]

  people but you really love it in you [TS]

  know that's it's a lot harder to count [TS]

  those two because everybody starves and [TS]

  they just sort of they know they wander [TS]

  off in a field and die and the census [TS]

  guys are really like standing there [TS]

  well this is a depressing page you think [TS]

  it's called World War two casualties on [TS]

  the wikipedia oh yeah that's a that's a [TS]

  that is a fun one isn't it because that [TS]

  they break it down [TS]

  I mean you know the number of people [TS]

  that died in the Ukraine alone or our [TS]

  belarus we just don't really think about [TS]

  the sacrifices that were made [TS]

  there and they were really making those [TS]

  sacrifices on behalf of Liberty they [TS]

  were just being sacrificed let's just [TS]

  call it what it is right this is that [TS]

  one of the columns is deaths as a [TS]

  percentage of the 1939 population m and [TS]

  it's sitting pretty [TS]

  poland 16 around seventeen percent of [TS]

  the population m amazing like like 16 [TS]

  people a lot of people dressing so well [TS]

  you know so I mean seattle in the grand [TS]

  scheme of things really doesn't matter [TS]

  to anybody [TS]

  don't talk crazy except for people who [TS]

  live in Portland you got coffee [TS]

  you got that you got grunge so that we [TS]

  can pnp Boeing oh god you got Boeing see [TS]

  Boeing matters people pay attention to [TS]

  Boeing got 13 coins not for much longer [TS]

  know what tell me [TS]

  well there apparently the building that [TS]

  13 coins in the 13th chords kind of its [TS]

  it's strange it's part of it is in the [TS]

  building that is currently occupied by [TS]

  the seattle times and that building is [TS]

  state but on either side of the Seattle [TS]

  Times building this plan to tear tear [TS]

  the other buildings down including most [TS]

  of the 13 coins and put in a residential [TS]

  tower got whoa i'm gonna move [TS]

  well there is a 13 coins there's a [TS]

  second 13 coins out by the airport so [TS]

  for 14 to 26 coin if the hey if they [TS]

  tear the one that were used to go into [TS]

  down we can always go i've started going [TS]

  out to the airport one anyway because [TS]

  it's it just taking somebody to dinner [TS]

  in the middle of the night out by the [TS]

  airport just has an extra layer of kind [TS]

  of greasy CD it just feels i'm going to [TS]

  13 coins was always meant to feel a [TS]

  little bit pornographic [TS]

  and then you need dislocate that to [TS]

  seatac and it just starts 2012 the amine [TS]

  yeah everybody's crossing on crossing [TS]

  their legs really open 24 hours [TS]

  yeah look at its menu you can get a [TS]

  steak Oscar at like four in the morning [TS]

  you can get veal parmesan for in the [TS]

  morning looking liver and onions [TS]

  no problem mmm steak Sinatra sir served [TS]

  on the trashcan lid will then wipes off [TS]

  with that I've seen you put away some [TS]

  food in that place [TS]

  oh hell yes you know I'm a little thing [TS]

  yeah I don't know this is ever really [TS]

  really come up in the mythology of John [TS]

  and I don't I don't say this is a high [TS]

  citizen you you finish everyone else's [TS]

  food and try and try again i don't want [TS]

  but the thing about me is I like a [TS]

  smorgasbord [TS]

  mmm burgas lord are you like a [TS]

  smorgasbord sports in the sense that if [TS]

  there is a plate if there's a hit on any [TS]

  menu if there's a sampler plate that [TS]

  isn't of like the fried cheese sampler [TS]

  yeah right like you go into a place and [TS]

  it's like--go appetizer sampler it's [TS]

  just like gross just undifferentiated [TS]

  golden-brown fried things [TS]

  yeah but i but i like to try a little [TS]

  bit of everything so if they're if [TS]

  there's ever like a you know one of each [TS]

  kind of oyster or one of each kind of [TS]

  stuffed pepper so you know I'll always [TS]

  get the always get the the sampler and [TS]

  and the best sampler ball is the little [TS]

  bit of food that everybody leaves on [TS]

  their plate at the end of a meal because [TS]

  you go around here like oh you add the [TS]

  lemon the lemon pasta and you had the [TS]

  you know you have calamari steak Supreme [TS]

  yeah you got a little bit of this a [TS]

  little of that and so but i but i but [TS]

  I've learned over time you know you have [TS]

  to ask you can't just put your fork on [TS]

  somebody else's plate and also you wait [TS]

  until they're did they're clearly done [TS]

  this you're telling me there's a sort of [TS]

  like it like an ethics of them finishing [TS]

  yeah because a lot of people you know [TS]

  they want to eat at their own pace they [TS]

  object to somebody kind of you know [TS]

  and I have understandably they object to [TS]

  somebody like vulturing and for that I'm [TS]

  making like a bird of prey that and so [TS]

  but you but you do want to secure your [TS]

  rights to their leftovers before they a [TS]

  throw their napkin down on their plate [TS]

  because then you're like oh i was gonna [TS]

  see if you wanted that or a conversely [TS]

  the people that you know and again it's [TS]

  their right to do it it's their meal but [TS]

  if they want to take it home you can't [TS]

  really like can really lay claim to [TS]

  their leftovers if they're if they have [TS]

  a plan for them already [TS]

  you have to sort of politely call [TS]

  Shotgun yeah you have to sort of waits [TS]

  until a appropriate amount of time has [TS]

  passed [TS]

  um thankfully nobody smokes in [TS]

  restaurants anymore so you don't have to [TS]

  i mean the number of wonderful [TS]

  half-eaten veal parmesan is that were [TS]

  ruined by somebody putting their [TS]

  cigarette out in it it leads to do that [TS]

  I totally get that but their cigarette [TS]

  out right in the center of the plate and [TS]

  I would be like god i was i was trying [TS]

  to gracefully I your food without [TS]

  without you know going right up to it [TS]

  without going over so it is a technique [TS]

  but looking for instance this weekend I [TS]

  went camping with some friends and a one [TS]

  of the guys that was going with us owns [TS]

  a restaurant so it was sort of presumed [TS]

  by everybody that he was going to you [TS]

  know be the chef and he brought some he [TS]

  brought a pork Lowen he brought some [TS]

  Cajun shrimps he had some food prepared [TS]

  but I was a little bit like so I mean [TS]

  we're going camping know like where the [TS]

  wieners where's the right gonna want [TS]

  some wieners to it was like well i got [TS]

  this pork loin was like well yeah sure [TS]

  we're going to eat the pork loin and the [TS]

  cajun shrimp but it's a camping trip we [TS]

  ought to have a package of wieners and I [TS]

  started to feel like oh I see I mean I'm [TS]

  the only one that really feels like [TS]

  we're going into this half-cocked really [TS]

  we're going out into the woods [TS]

  and everybody else is like oh the poor [TS]

  i'm sure the pork loin will be fun like [TS]

  I'm sure it's fine too but there's I [TS]

  mean there's a winner shaped hole mmm [TS]

  that only a wiener can fill and and how [TS]

  do i have to pull it to have to pull [TS]

  this car over to its turn around and go [TS]

  back and at that point there's probably [TS]

  not like 7-11 you could go to pick up [TS]

  some wieners [TS]

  that's the problem right now you're [TS]

  talking about like let's go back down [TS]

  the mountain through over the river [TS]

  through the gate [TS]

  that's interesting your different kind [TS]

  of fancy because there's already gonna [TS]

  be there is the fanciness of the [TS]

  fortress but you're being met offense [TS]

  you're being fancy about the idea [TS]

  there's not that this is obviously the [TS]

  winter shaped hole here we gotta write [TS]

  write on it and you know the problem the [TS]

  problem [TS]

  the thing about a wiener is your stand [TS]

  around the campfire and everybody's [TS]

  drinking their single malt bourbon and [TS]

  half the people are smoking their [TS]

  natural man she sure roots and you can [TS]

  go over pull the winner out of a package [TS]

  without asking permission without doing [TS]

  any kind of song and dance you can stick [TS]

  it on the end of a sharpened stick and [TS]

  you can have a winner her but with a [TS]

  pork loin or some cajun shrimp [TS]

  you know you got to be part yet that's [TS]

  you gotta sign off on the whole dinner [TS]

  everybody's involved it's a big [TS]

  production you know part of camping is [TS]

  every once in awhile you look around [TS]

  here like well I'm not going to have any [TS]

  single malt whisky I'm not gonna maybe [TS]

  I'll have a little pull off of a Schrute [TS]

  but what I want right now is a burnt [TS]

  hotdogs [TS]

  uh-huh but you know it wasn't my camping [TS]

  trip it wasn't my I was just you know i [TS]

  was part of the most part of the [TS]

  Praetorian Guard yeah and so are the [TS]

  thing with camping also is a big part of [TS]

  camping is the go-along get-along part [TS]

  you will be helpful [TS]

  you want to be not a distraction right [TS]

  there's a whole element of like helping [TS]

  out and not being a problem when he's [TS]

  exactly right you do not want to be the [TS]

  guy that they're like [TS]

  yeah what are we going camping again i [TS]

  don't know let's not let's not invite [TS]

  the one guy that didn't help do anything [TS]

  right just set around complaining about [TS]

  there not being any hot dogs are the [TS]

  winners [TS]

  you don't wanna be that guy you want to [TS]

  be on it I mean and the thing is that in [TS]

  a situation like that you'll revert two [TS]

  basic types right and there's the you [TS]

  know there's the oh yeah right there's [TS]

  the cook who's making the pot of beans [TS]

  and there's the you know there's the guy [TS]

  that's willing the toothpicks for [TS]

  everybody i like to think of myself in [TS]

  that situation is being kind of a [TS]

  justice of the peace character huh [TS]

  it's like you know I'm here in case [TS]

  anybody wants to get married or anybody [TS]

  wants to resolve a dispute here to [TS]

  adjudicate that right and you know and [TS]

  and and and decide what the law of this [TS]

  region is and i think i think most [TS]

  people appreciate me in that capacity [TS]

  oh absolutely yeah yeah Roderick so long [TS]

  he's not here to like he's not here to [TS]

  school a lot of scrubbing of pots but [TS]

  just in case just in case of tree falls [TS]

  in the forest and somebody wants to know [TS]

  whether we heard it or not [TS]

  John's they're thinking about the big [TS]

  ideas I had a cool experience in [TS]

  portland that reasons that will be [TS]

  apparent i'm i'm reluctant to bring out [TS]

  i feel like i should share with you [TS]

  yeah yeah that's what I'm here for um [TS]

  there's a there's a group of people that [TS]

  whenever we're in the same time we go [TS]

  out to dinner the four of us and just [TS]

  one of those like you know it's one of [TS]

  those like you know what I could be a [TS]

  crowd just for people secret dinner do [TS]

  you do you have a name for yourselves [TS]

  yeah are you that the group or the no no [TS]

  it'sit's two guys and two girls were [TS]

  called nuts and cherries is in the name [TS]

  that's what Ozzie and their the nuts [TS]

  where the cherries [TS]

  it's good i don't know why international [TS]

  nuts and cherries and so nuts and [TS]

  cherries we decided to go out and get a [TS]

  nice dinner we're gonna blow the budget [TS]

  a little bit weird al couch oh ok so we [TS]

  got a reservation before i think it was [TS]

  like those early because went to a party [TS]

  you know the fest is going on campus i'm [TS]

  telling you this [TS]

  you don't have a gaucho is down in [TS]

  California this is this one is not as [TS]

  nice as the one in Seattle that you and [TS]

  I have been to right that one's much [TS]

  more I mean no I mean just in terms of [TS]

  the Interior it's more speed and one [TS]

  cialis more spacious but was you know we [TS]

  won't go there it's five-fifteen we go [TS]

  we have some drinks we get get [TS]

  appetizers we get steaks it was amazing [TS]

  and the service was incredible it was [TS]

  just it was so fun and you know big [TS]

  dinner right so this is the big event [TS]

  and we had so much fun nuts and cherries [TS]

  I mean when was last time nuts and [TS]

  cherries had convened nothing cherries [TS]

  to to me be four times a year usually [TS]

  mr. lucky twice here [TS]

  oh yeah okay supercell two boys two [TS]

  girls just platonic eating and was great [TS]

  and we went and then we go to this party [TS]

  and the party is really fine [TS]

  that's a nice people and were like what [TS]

  should we do next and where the nut says [TS]

  she says let's go back what I said are [TS]

  you saying what I think you're thinking [TS]

  what I think you're saying she's gonna [TS]

  come back [TS]

  whoa so we reconvened the other cherry [TS]

  was not available so we have a proxy [TS]

  cherry but doesn't she went back in a [TS]

  second state dinner [TS]

  you're kidding me i'm not as the [TS]

  greatest night of my life one of the one [TS]

  of the nuts [TS]

  oh yeah said let's go back let's go back [TS]

  it's almost it's almost eleven it was [TS]

  1030 without even specifying what she [TS]

  meant everybody understood all everybody [TS]

  knew [TS]

  let's go back go back wow I don't [TS]

  mm I don't know how many more times my [TS]

  life I'll do that but I do not regret [TS]

  that you booked into the party who two [TS]

  trips to El Gaucho that's my really good [TS]

  is that may be the greatest thing ever [TS]

  that's deeply innovate now becoming [TS]

  clear it's not the kind of thing i do a [TS]

  lot [TS]

  no but i but i mean it's it's kind of [TS]

  its kind of revolutionary well you the [TS]

  whole idea you know it's like the [TS]

  hobbits right you have second breakfast [TS]

  but how many times you heard about [TS]

  somebody having second dinner [TS]

  well I have survived it all the time but [TS]

  not not in the same restaurants not you [TS]

  don't go back and drop another two [TS]

  hundred and fifty dollars [TS]

  it's not something I do all the time but [TS]

  you know has at least a [TS]

  once-in-a-lifetime thing i can highly [TS]

  and I like the idea of going with the [TS]

  same group of people if you can go only [TS]

  oh yeah [TS]

  everything about it is perfect and maybe [TS]

  even trying to say we could get the same [TS]

  way to our waiter was living [TS]

  haha but the waiter saw you come in the [TS]

  winter who would you know what the keys [TS]

  cash daddy's getting ready introduced us [TS]

  to our new server showed us a place we [TS]

  had we had a little bit Rocky IV and [TS]

  then don't have another dinner and your [TS]

  second dinner did you order you must [TS]

  have ordered different things i did i [TS]

  had different drinks and actually had [TS]

  maybe the same drink at the animal [TS]

  fashion but yeah I had a different [TS]

  dinner I i tried something a little more [TS]

  little more ambitious didn't see that's [TS]

  exactly what you do right you'd go you'd [TS]

  you reach a little bit i don't think the [TS]

  thing is I i have to tell you I had such [TS]

  a wonderful time I don't I can't tell [TS]

  you that I would do anything differently [TS]

  but if I were advising somebody who is [TS]

  considering we need a name for this [TS]

  yeah if you're going to do a tactical to [TS]

  dinner tonight [TS]

  I think they're I think there are ways [TS]

  to think about doing it i think the idea [TS]

  of like is gonna be the same place twice [TS]

  it's gonna be different places a [TS]

  different approach [TS]

  I think it might be novel to go and have [TS]

  exactly the same dinner twice i think [TS]

  that's an interesting idea to I mean I [TS]

  feel like hanging out with a group of [TS]

  people going to dinner early going to a [TS]

  party and then after after the party [TS]

  going out to like a late dinner that's [TS]

  something different we're talking about [TS]

  returning to the scene of the crime [TS]

  yeah yeah let's lay out some of the [TS]

  bullets on this I think it it doesn't [TS]

  have to be a fancy restaurant [TS]

  although i think that's kind of cool but [TS]

  it should be the same restaurant [TS]

  yeah we should be to the extent possible [TS]

  mostly the same group of people all the [TS]

  way up again not necessarily should you [TS]

  know it's this is America you can attach [TS]

  that tag one or two people in or out [TS]

  depending on how big the group is but [TS]

  now I kinda want to do it again so you [TS]

  go to an early dinner which makes [TS]

  perfect sense for the theater before the [TS]

  show before the like lets go lets you [TS]

  know 545 were having early dinner and [TS]

  you have a fantastic night out you don't [TS]

  want the evening the end let's go back [TS]

  let's go back let's have second dinner [TS]

  wow you know that so the equivalent [TS]

  innovation for me was several years ago [TS]

  I realized that when I was going out to [TS]

  italian food with friends with any group [TS]

  of friends four or more who we would [TS]

  walk in the restaurant and before we [TS]

  were even seated i would order a large [TS]

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  Rotter got a loss for the tip for the [TS]

  table so you walk in the way the world [TS]

  you know that the the heart disease is [TS]

  your first time dining at the John [TS]

  Carlos [TS]

  a little how we work here listen here [TS]

  let me stop you there [TS]

  let me stop you there bring so much [TS]

  money did it bring us and bring us a [TS]

  large pepperoni pizza and four menus and [TS]

  take our drink order whatever but please [TS]

  and thank you get that get that [TS]

  pepperoni pizza cooking because then [TS]

  you're sitting here looking at the menu [TS]

  here like what do I get do i get the [TS]

  antipasto do i get the what do I want [TS]

  this I want that what maybe I'll get a [TS]

  Joe's special and then just as the [TS]

  waiter comes back to take your order a [TS]

  large pepperoni pizza shows up it's [TS]

  perfect ya see [TS]

  god dammit this is the kind of [TS]

  innovation we need and dining yeah it's [TS]

  because it's so normative John you go [TS]

  anyplace there's a certain size the [TS]

  first i'm going with us [TS]

  why is there anything I need to know [TS]

  about yeah right what it what about your [TS]

  fucking restaurant is special [TS]

  what about this experience is special I [TS]

  don't need I don't need to be walked [TS]

  through the fact that you have a menu [TS]

  item to a little bit of how this works [TS]

  but I think everything here is locally [TS]

  sourced farm-to-table and one out of six [TS]

  plates is filled with poison [TS]

  yeah let me tell you a little bit how [TS]

  this works you shut up and go get our [TS]

  drinks bring us a large pepperoni pizza [TS]

  is this your first time waiting on [TS]

  that's so because the thing is nobody [TS]

  wants to order [TS]

  nobody wants to go through the whole [TS]

  like we can all agree on cheese bullshit [TS]

  everybody there tho except if you're [TS]

  dining with Ted Leo who's fuckin vegan [TS]

  but everybody else wants at least one [TS]

  slice of pizza right you just yeah you [TS]

  want to slice of pizza [TS]

  well I mean youryour there yeah so the [TS]

  pet large pepperoni comes everybody gets [TS]

  a slice of pizza a few of us have a [TS]

  couple of slices and then what do you [TS]

  have you have a you have a slice left [TS]

  over and then here comes your your main [TS]

  course [TS]

  here comes your here comes your veal [TS]

  here comes your if you're right it would [TS]

  be perfect [TS]

  it's like it's it's it's it's bananas he [TS]

  just you walk in you don't even have to [TS]

  make a show of it you just lean over you [TS]

  lean over to the guy you say brings a [TS]

  large pepperoni pizza [TS]

  there's so much room for innovation in [TS]

  these kinds of things we all know about [TS]

  things like you know let's have [TS]

  breakfast for dinner right like that [TS]

  tonight we're going to pancakes for [TS]

  dinner right doing some of the afternoon [TS]

  temps exactly what they don't make [TS]

  daughters at her school today today is [TS]

  breakfast for lunch day so she's getting [TS]

  pancakes and sausage from [TS]

  everybody's favorite meal but then [TS]

  there's also other ways you can go you [TS]

  can go into things like lets you know [TS]

  like for example I'm frequently of a [TS]

  mind especially with certain kinds of [TS]

  restaurants where I would just like for [TS]

  appetizers sure rather play that thing [TS]

  you do that let's have appetizers for [TS]

  dinner we do it all the time because the [TS]

  thing is here in seattle now and i'm [TS]

  sure this is true and been in certain [TS]

  parts of San Francisco you walk in and [TS]

  whatever the whatever the main courses [TS]

  are they are just scaled up appetizers [TS]

  and the appetizer just scaled down main [TS]

  courses a place you may instance a tapas [TS]

  you consider it a large plates [TS]

  restaurant [TS]

  yeah you you want to emphasize the tapas [TS]

  the appetite of the appetizer list is [TS]

  like tournedos of beef and you know [TS]

  seven kinds of croutons and one pickled [TS]

  pickle on top of something else pickled [TS]

  and you go [TS]

  none of that sounds great but but then [TS]

  you look at the main courses and it's [TS]

  like octopus tongue [TS]

  mhm pickled go I don't want that either [TS]

  you know what I will do what I want [TS]

  bring us the meatballs bring us the [TS]

  blanched spinach [TS]

  I'll try one pickled thing just to make [TS]

  you guys happy [TS]

  yeah just to just to make you feel like [TS]

  that this is still a thing that we're [TS]

  all experimenting with pickling pickling [TS]

  yeah so yeah we I went out to dinner the [TS]

  other night uh some guy was in town from [TS]

  out of town a Peter sagal of NPR was [TS]

  here in town and and some couple of [TS]

  couple of nerds a talking about to [TS]

  dinner [TS]

  seattle-based nerds and we went to one [TS]

  of those restaurants that's called like [TS]

  the whale and the and the purpose in the [TS]

  captain and the and the the the [TS]

  blacksmith and we sat down and it was [TS]

  the weight of the the server and the [TS]

  great Cormac McCarthy something that the [TS]

  server came over and said hi have you [TS]

  dined with us before [TS]

  let me tell you a little bit how would [TS]

  how this goes how this happens [TS]

  everything has been pickled today [TS]

  on the premises on the premises [TS]

  we picked it all out of the cracks of [TS]

  the pavement in our own parking lot and [TS]

  then threw in some brine for their the [TS]

  chicken takes an hour and a half because [TS]

  it's not actually a chicken that's [TS]

  question about the sides are they start [TS]

  family-style meant to be shared at and [TS]

  then so we just ordered you know we just [TS]

  ordered a bunch of food we were there [TS]

  Ken Jennings is one of the nerds and [TS]

  can't took the reins was just like okay [TS]

  we'll have the pick of pickled beets on [TS]

  top of cabbage will have the the pickled [TS]

  onions with the with you know pickle [TS]

  clams and he ordered like 15 things from [TS]

  the appetizer menu and it was great i [TS]

  mean it tasted like to basically tastes [TS]

  like you're eating a jar of mustard [TS]

  oh boy but that's and it cost one [TS]

  thousand dollars but that is how that's [TS]

  what dining is now you think it's cheap [TS]

  the pickle stuff got vinegar costs you [TS]

  know how long it took us to tell you [TS]

  about this have you locally sourced ill [TS]

  recently listened with fifteen dollars [TS]

  an hour is the law in Seattle [TS]

  mhm and it's a very expensive to employ [TS]

  our waiters to sit and explain how food [TS]

  for works to you it's not another this [TS]

  is cheap is your first time in seattle [TS]

  look-look we had to take this formerly a [TS]

  like that this former garage where [TS]

  actual cars were once worked on by [TS]

  people with skills we have to take [TS]

  everything useful out of it and and and [TS]

  then turn it into a pickling parlor and [TS]

  that's not none of this is cheap [TS]

  I feel like I just that now my am i'm [TS]

  just a buzz with ideas i feel like i [TS]

  could be a consultant today like I have [TS]

  so many ideas in my head like for [TS]

  example think about when you do dim sum [TS]

  and if you go to a dim sum place [TS]

  especially when they've got like a cart [TS]

  like you're never really done ordering [TS]

  until you just make them go away like [TS]

  you're just coming they're offering your [TS]

  new foods they're stacking plates i [TS]

  think the closest thing after that the [TS]

  we get is sushi [TS]

  well of course obviously got a buffet [TS]

  that's a different kind of animal but [TS]

  was sushi even today like i don't know [TS]

  why i first started getting eating sushi [TS]

  with people it was very normal to say [TS]

  like let's start out with writes this [TS]

  sure we'll bring you the edamame because [TS]

  so many people ordered at mommy to start [TS]

  that now most sushi restaurants just [TS]

  bring you some edamame just to like yeah [TS]

  we know you're going to order this it's [TS]

  now we just consider placing mind [TS]

  readers and I like the idea of starting [TS]

  out like with the pepperoni pizza and [TS]

  just building pepperoni pizza because [TS]

  just like the foundation we don't know [TS]

  what this building is going [TS]

  that's right it's the bits the basic [TS]

  level it's the ground floor and then you [TS]

  know it anymore when I go to get dim sum [TS]

  I feel like what's really happening is a [TS]

  like i'm climbing up on the side of of [TS]

  i'm climbing up on the side of like a a [TS]

  moving truck and a bit more tanjo is [TS]

  spraying instead of chrome directly in [TS]

  my mouth a spring msg just directly in [TS]

  my mouth is like I called secret salt [TS]

  you know I don't need to eat the mystery [TS]

  pork I don't need to put the buns in my [TS]

  mouth I could just I could just jump up [TS]

  there and say you know like I am chrome [TS]

  witness men and they could just [TS]

  you're going to Valhalla here's the msg [TS]

  IBM restaurant with spray msg is pretty [TS]

  good but if I was standing on a [TS]

  foundation of pepperoni pizza when that [TS]

  happened I was first would be grounded [TS]

  from electric shock and I you know and i [TS]

  would have to have some have some base [TS]

  layer of bread and cheese that msg could [TS]

  kind of soak into and I would I would I [TS]

  wouldn't have that like hallucinatory [TS]

  hour and a half after after the best dim [TS]

  sum meal where you just you know where [TS]

  you're like you're hearing colors and [TS]

  stuff [TS]

  oh you can like to smell truth yeah yeah [TS]

  because the msg was doing with your [TS]

  synesthesia little bra you get that [TS]

  pretty hard don't you [TS]

  you know i i've done a fair enough [TS]

  amount of research to know that the only [TS]

  people that will really stand up and say [TS]

  that msg has an effect on them it's like [TS]

  Jenny McCarthy level of craziness [TS]

  because all of the science people and [TS]

  all of the food people say no that's not [TS]

  true you do not feel msg but they're [TS]

  wrong [TS]

  yeah i'm a member of the cult of msg [TS]

  feelers and when I eat it I can fucking [TS]

  feel the feet I can feel the future I [TS]

  can control [TS]

  I i have spooky action at a distance I [TS]

  can make i can make i can make like [TS]

  Adams line up with each other is you [TS]

  access she's just obviously senses but [TS]

  eventually I don't want to put it too [TS]

  strongly gives you said there might be a [TS]

  nascent powers that you're not even [TS]

  aware of from day to day [TS]

  that's exactly right you get a window of [TS]

  possibility when you when you feel the [TS]

  msg things start to happen you're [TS]

  noticing things you never noticed before [TS]

  I can feel my hair you can feel your [TS]

  answers just like you really like all my [TS]

  god i have this all the time [TS]

  Yeah Yeah right well except that it also [TS]

  hurts a little bit like there's there's [TS]

  a it's it's like with all great powers [TS]

  comes from some kind of discomfort [TS]

  yeah right so so all of a sudden like I [TS]

  feel too much I here too much i kinda [TS]

  wanna go to sleep but I also I [TS]

  you know kind of want to drive a truck [TS]

  into a dust storm like it's a it's a [TS]

  very peculiar state and it's and it's [TS]

  especially destabilizing when other [TS]

  people try to tell you that it's not [TS]

  happening [TS]

  Yeah right right right you know not how [TS]

  you feel about beverages I think as you [TS]

  know I'm a multi beverage person i like [TS]

  i like multiple beverages sometimes at [TS]

  the same time you're talking about like [TS]

  a table where you have a sparkling water [TS]

  an old-fashioned an orangina a coffee a [TS]

  coffee and a cup of green tea all sort [TS]

  of a raid around with it could be [TS]

  surprised me but you know obviously [TS]

  bring the water I'm gonna want the water [TS]

  my big water traps will you don't have [TS]

  to order that no my standard go to UM [TS]

  for a time and nineties was I would have [TS]

  you know regular glass glass of water a [TS]

  coffee scotch and coke [TS]

  ooh ok well mine is a water a cup of [TS]

  coffee always with him and then a [TS]

  milkshake that if you can go into a [TS]

  place and have a cup of coffee and a [TS]

  milkshake with a water back then and [TS]

  then a pepperoni pizzas on the way then [TS]

  fucking order french dip and you got it [TS]

  covered right you order friendship with [TS]

  a side salad and you're gonna walk out [TS]

  of there and there's not going to be [TS]

  that thing of like oh I wish I'd had the [TS]

  mushrooms right well i always get the [TS]

  mushrooms [TS]

  well I used to get the mushrooms until I [TS]

  bit into a mushroom one time and it [TS]

  squirted hot oil on me that was a [TS]

  triggering thing for you know it now and [TS]

  now if you like to get warnings if we're [TS]

  up mushrooms are going to be discussed [TS]

  no no but about squirting hot squirting [TS]

  if mushroom show up on the table if [TS]

  listen if hot squirting is going to be [TS]

  discussed i do want to i do want some [TS]

  kind of warning or at least you know I [TS]

  want to be like in pig latin [TS]

  no one would be aware it's impossible [TS]

  possible conversations room a hurting [TS]

  square but look if if if if a ramekin or [TS]

  a a gravy boat of mushroom shows up and [TS]

  their sizzling in butter [TS]

  I know what I'm getting into what I [TS]

  don't want [TS]

  is deep fried mushrooms they already [TS]

  have they have lots of secrets and [TS]

  surprises [TS]

  yeah they appear to be like dry hot and [TS]

  dry and then you crunch into it you [TS]

  realize like oh the the whole miserable [TS]

  feeling would hit the inside here comes [TS]

  yeah that hurts the fungus is just [TS]

  soaked boiling hot oil and then it's and [TS]

  it won't cool down because it's inside [TS]

  this crust that's a dangerous fucking [TS]

  grenade slam that fucking milkshake [TS]

  yeah but once the hot oils hits you [TS]

  you're fucked I mean no milk shake in [TS]

  the world can take that getting together [TS]

  in Africa to get vanilla I can rotate i [TS]

  rotate milkshakes i will not get there [TS]

  are a lot of problems right now in the [TS]

  northwest and one of them is that I was [TS]

  also just recently in portland and [TS]

  there's a there's a the popular ice [TS]

  cream shop down there now is called [TS]

  something like yeah the Salton salt & [TS]

  straw [TS]

  yes it's straight it's pretty fancy it's [TS]

  pretty fancy and you and and they hand [TS]

  you a menu of like 14 different kinds of [TS]

  ice cream [TS]

  I can't wait like an hour it's nuts you [TS]

  gotta wait an hour and the ice cream [TS]

  flavors are salted licorice shoe-leather [TS]

  bananas flambĂ© with anchovies wooden [TS]

  comb and he'll eat shit you guys like [TS]

  come on one just one flavor too clever [TS]

  too clever by half [TS]

  yeah one flavor 11 flavor that is not [TS]

  for that it where it's not an experience [TS]

  I just we caught on somebody's twirly [TS]

  moustache [TS]

  I just want some fucking ice cream rose [TS]

  i will lead a scoop of vanilla right now [TS]

  except that your vanilla is laced with [TS]

  lavender I don't want lab I you know I [TS]

  have to tell you I don't want to sound [TS]

  touchy but I I think I have a bone to [TS]

  pick with people who are anti vanilla I [TS]

  think vanilla can be very very good [TS]

  it's vanilla is not vanilla vanilla is [TS]

  not boring when you get a really good [TS]

  like a you know what they're related the [TS]

  real vanilla bean taste to it [TS]

  God that can be so good even look at [TS]

  some of the Athena haagen-dazs the [TS]

  Hadassah what's called vanilla bean so [TS]

  I'm gonna be good [TS]

  that's a good as ice cream [TS]

  you know up here in the northwest we [TS]

  have the we have to look alright that's [TS]

  the creamery that's the creamery and [TS]

  that tillamook makes ice cream and it's [TS]

  not it's not which it it's not like [TS]

  premium ice cream but it's ice cream [TS]

  that I support I support them mostly [TS]

  because it has a northwestern pedigree [TS]

  and they have like five different kinds [TS]

  of vanilla but there's one called [TS]

  old-fashioned vanilla and I just get it [TS]

  reflexively because if you put [TS]

  old-fashioned in front of something I [TS]

  just immediately feel like I'm at [TS]

  Farrell's ice cream shop and somebody [TS]

  with the with the arm garter and a [TS]

  bowler hat is coming over and [TS]

  rollerskating yeah it's your birthday [TS]

  and so I get that old-fashioned vanilla [TS]

  and the thing about vanilla ice cream [TS]

  for me the first two bites are ambrosia [TS]

  and then like everything it just sort of [TS]

  dulls your senses and it turns into a [TS]

  menu just like cream and lard in your [TS]

  mouth as fast as you can to try and get [TS]

  the to try and make the screaming [TS]

  stopped the promise Seattle has to do [TS]

  with shakes get to me fancy ice creams [TS]

  you can't get like a normal shape are [TS]

  they are sandals on [TS]

  oh no I think ninety-nine percent of the [TS]

  time when you go to when you go to get a [TS]

  milkshake in Seattle you have chocolate [TS]

  vanilla strawberry but then you have [TS]

  other up you know you can get raspberry [TS]

  which I sometimes will do I like a [TS]

  raspberry shake i like a blackberry [TS]

  shake i'll even get a peanut butter [TS]

  chocolate shake [TS]

  that sounds good coffee shake very good [TS]

  mint chocolate chip shake all of these [TS]

  are the classic Flav's don't sound like [TS]

  scott simpson here but there are the [TS]

  classic flat ass itch but you come in [TS]

  and you got you get your water you got [TS]

  your milkshake you obviously that your [TS]

  coffee there's a pepperoni pizza on the [TS]

  way you know what would you what would [TS]

  you like to see in dining technologies [TS]

  that is to encourage a certain cut way [TS]

  of eating or to open up the idea that [TS]

  this could be what you wanted to be what [TS]

  would you like to see when you go to a [TS]

  restaurant I want to see a big table [TS]

  where people have carved their names and [TS]

  probably large like like two large the [TS]

  tables too large but that's good because [TS]

  it's a picnic table style thing [TS]

  I'd like there to be a pipe organ [TS]

  haha and I'd like them to be playing old [TS]

  Harold Lloyd movies up on the brick wall [TS]

  and then the guy with the pipe organ is [TS]

  like scoring the movie I'd like there to [TS]

  be milkshakes that kind of come out with [TS]

  the pizza should be as long as you're [TS]

  going along on a wackadoodle 70 steams [TS]

  should be a phone on the table that you [TS]

  can pick up [TS]

  oh hello oh hello sure there should be a [TS]

  phone on the table and you can you call [TS]

  you could I mean here's another one i [TS]

  agree with you i like so far getting to [TS]

  shakeys you got Farrell's you got that [TS]

  trend of like the of the like [TS]

  prototypical Bennigan's TGI Fridays lots [TS]

  of antiques and shit on the walls and [TS]

  you can I talk on the phone that looks [TS]

  like shit what should be confident and [TS]

  shit you get a giant table i also like [TS]

  the idea first of all everything is okay [TS]

  like whatever you want if you want a [TS]

  weird way we'll make it that way if you [TS]

  want a weird portion size will make it [TS]

  will do the extent we can we will try to [TS]

  make that work and price it accordingly [TS]

  no restrictions there should be a [TS]

  minimal number of restrictions and it's [TS]

  not because the chef is is fucking high [TS]

  strong and doesn't like to marrek like I [TS]

  want to merge onto marrek em right [TS]

  that's another one because the other one [TS]

  I know this is going to be difficult [TS]

  like I looked at the 13 coins menu just [TS]

  now for like an hour not fantastic menu [TS]

  but like I you know it seems like you go [TS]

  to somebody's gonna get Danny's and [TS]

  everything's price like a Denny's you [TS]

  good with 13 coins are now got you [TS]

  everything is price that way i like to [TS]

  see some more variation where I could [TS]

  get in $80 tomahawk steak [TS]

  uh I could also get a pretty good [TS]

  three-dollar grilled cheese to top it [TS]

  with interesting i wonder how that would [TS]

  work i wonder if that would actually be [TS]

  a problem if your menu ginger gamut [TS]

  well i just i wonder if I want you know [TS]

  it's that the thing where people always [TS]

  buy the thing in the middle right [TS]

  I don't know if you'd ever sure every [TS]

  once in a while some some guy and [TS]

  oppressed shirt with a gaudy watch is [TS]

  going to order the $80 steak just to [TS]

  lord it over everybody right but how [TS]

  long were you can have that sitting in [TS]

  the fridge before that guy comes in [TS]

  oh you got to be so careful with that [TS]

  and I i have to tell you if it's a [TS]

  certain price and I don't want to be [TS]

  normal not normative here but if it's a [TS]

  certain price restaurant and they have [TS]

  lobster on the menu or they've got too [TS]

  many different kinds of seafood i will [TS]

  steer away from that you'll avoid the [TS]

  lobster but like what if you love kebabs [TS]

  but you're avoiding lamb [TS]

  what if you want a grilled cheese kebab [TS]

  like whatever it is you want i would [TS]

  love a place that would do to the extent [TS]

  possible try to make an interesting if [TS]

  we want to get if we win how about this [TS]

  what if you want the $80 tomahawk steak [TS]

  as an appetizer for the table [TS]

  whoa whoa right that diners Without [TS]

  Borders see i remember i remember back [TS]

  in the eighties before the world became [TS]

  standardized traveling back east through [TS]

  small towns and buy back east I mean the [TS]

  Midwest which at the time seemed like [TS]

  back east to me you'd go into these [TS]

  little towns and their be kind of like [TS]

  though there be a restaurant and the [TS]

  sign outside [TS]

  what's a restaurant group you know what [TS]

  i mean and i do is you should go it's [TS]

  unacceptable have a restaurant called [TS]

  restaurant that was called rosebud known [TS]

  informally by the former dead owners [TS]

  name sure was collecting pointers guess [TS]

  jeans they care that it's a restaurant [TS]

  and jeans been dead for a long time it's [TS]

  what I'd like jeans jeans wife's second [TS]

  husband actually loved his cigarettes [TS]

  but so you go in there and behind the [TS]

  bar there be a bar obviously where [TS]

  people would like white a paper hats [TS]

  were bustling it was fairly bustling [TS]

  place is full of farmers and there would [TS]

  be a ham there will be a ham and there [TS]

  will be a turkey and there will be a [TS]

  roast beef and you could make any kind [TS]

  of food with those combination of those [TS]

  things that would be nice right there [TS]

  would be simply ran out of that hand [TS]

  there's no more ham no more him until [TS]

  they had another hand and it just feels [TS]

  like from the from that combination of [TS]

  ingredients that the milkshake [TS]

  ingredients they have the ham the roast [TS]

  beef in the turkey they had the bread [TS]

  they had cheese and eggs you could make [TS]

  like 7,000 kinds of food you can make a [TS]

  ham sandwich but you can also make a ham [TS]

  steak [TS]

  I feel like that has been lost a ham [TS]

  steak so much has been lost [TS]

  yeah and now you walk into a place [TS]

  you're like well for the tonight we have [TS]

  tonight chef has prepared ham steak 444 [TS]

  okay first of all it's not fillet of ham [TS]

  heads and it's just it's just it's just [TS]

  yeah it's been picked a dollar signs no [TS]

  no dollar signs on the meddling Flav [TS]

  hand chef has a way of hand for price [TS]

  available on request [TS]

  AQ & and I and you know it's just like [TS]

  what the fuck am come on it's one of the [TS]

  it's one of the basic foods there ought [TS]

  to be him [TS]

  I mean it won't be him everywhere I told [TS]

  you I totally agree [TS]

  I don't want to know i don't want to [TS]

  sound like i don't want to sound like [TS]

  somebody that's like him everywhere have [TS]

  everywhere him everywhere and down and [TS]

  I've got like dancers on either side [TS]

  twerking him everywhere am everywhere [TS]

  ladies and gentlemen the ham targets I [TS]

  don't you know I had that I don't want [TS]

  that to be my legacy and everywhere so [TS]

  but you can get a scoop but here's the [TS]

  thing you can you got turkey got rescue [TS]

  and you get a scoop of macaroni cheese [TS]

  on the side or maybe a monkey dish [TS]

  that's right also yeah I want paper hats [TS]

  also lots of monkey dishes and ramekins [TS]

  abso-fucking-lutely i love all you know [TS]

  missing oh my god sauce [TS]

  what about sauces now sauces it seems to [TS]

  me like the ham the turkey maybe you [TS]

  don't have a ton of it but you could [TS]

  have a saucepan of like six sauces that [TS]

  could be deployed tactically on any meal [TS]

  that anyone ordered you and I have [TS]

  talked a lot about sauce and not enough [TS]

  though I still feel like I've got a [TS]

  sauce whole well yeah it's a few you do [TS]

  have a sauce whole I do too but I don't [TS]

  think I don't think other people care [TS]

  about sauce like we do I don't think [TS]

  they thought about it enough to get an [TS]

  education issue it's an education issue [TS]

  and the thing is you can't think about [TS]

  sauce you have to do about sauce in a [TS]

  sister you know what I'm saying like s [TS]

  the songs you have to you have to you [TS]

  have to live the sauce and that's how [TS]

  you know that you want the sauce the [TS]

  song yet the sauce has to come you have [TS]

  to go how their capers in this song [TS]

  los that the education part is important [TS]

  John you have to be aware of the sauce [TS]

  and open to the sauce because here's [TS]

  what you're thinking if you're one of [TS]

  these people it's not that people are [TS]

  dumb where the people are unaware [TS]

  they're not educated there's kind of [TS]

  dumb and sort of unaware about sausage [TS]

  yeah so they're thinking if you've [TS]

  already gone through this you you you [TS]

  know this this is the thing people go [TS]

  sauces there's already plenty of sauces [TS]

  no there's not plenty of sauces go to [TS]

  the grocery store and try to get [TS]

  yourself some store made sauces and [TS]

  gravies how's that look at all have you [TS]

  ever have you ever bought a jar of gravy [TS]

  and I was like to all of the gravy's [TS]

  it's a literal abortion it's simple bad [TS]

  constant part of this one day I went and [TS]

  I tried about four envelopes from [TS]

  McCormick's and I tried some of this [TS]

  chicken tonight type of abortions and [TS]

  brought it home [TS]

  they were all awful i could have shat [TS]

  better sauce yep yep and you know it up [TS]

  for me I i have felt like the day that [TS]

  they can put gravy and a can or in a jar [TS]

  and have it even remotely resemble gravy [TS]

  is the day that I would go on a manned [TS]

  mission to Mars [TS]

  I mean sure this is the thing I the [TS]

  number one thing that is inhibiting me [TS]

  from going to Mars [TS]

  aside from not having been invited is [TS]

  the idea that i'm gonna get up there and [TS]

  there's going to be a you know it's [TS]

  going to be Thanksgiving and we're going [TS]

  to open up our bags of like gonna get a [TS]

  tube of Turkey to ya youtuber turkey [TS]

  dinner and I'm gonna be like yeah I'm on [TS]

  the way to Mars I'm a but I'm a historic [TS]

  pioneer and then you're going to take [TS]

  that first taste of gravy and it's going [TS]

  to taste like somebody burned a plastic [TS]

  bag and you're gonna say what the what [TS]

  the fuck get me back to earth [TS]

  you can make that noise I can't do this [TS]

  I can't do this they know about assault [TS]

  in the world can mask this terrible [TS]

  gravy has got to be paper hats [TS]

  it's got to be flexibility there should [TS]

  be sanitary that to me you don't need a [TS]

  ton of sauce we've covered sauces and [TS]

  gravies a little bit in the past i want [TS]

  to talk about it too much but who but i [TS]

  think a sausage gravy a nice brown gravy [TS]

  but now i'm told by our listeners that [TS]

  I'm overthinking the sausage gravy think [TS]

  that sausage gravy is actually trivially [TS]

  easy to make [TS]

  if you have you heard this uh well i [TS]

  would like to see it made [TS]

  well you go and look at a recipe it [TS]

  looks complicated but apparently it's [TS]

  pretty much as simple as crumble up some [TS]

  sausage put in some butter and cream and [TS]

  then you know its salt pepper and you've [TS]

  got sausage gravy but i don't see I feel [TS]

  like I want to fact check it a little [TS]

  bit but look but look at it seems like [TS]

  there should be a way like to have a [TS]

  restaurant that thing is it could be a [TS]

  big restaurant 13 coins pretty [TS]

  good-sized right [TS]

  yep you know why I'm gonna put the show [TS]

  that's the booths on my couch I can't be [TS]

  this is going away i'm so sad [TS]

  well it hasn't happened yet I mean [TS]

  there's a lot of things a lot of things [TS]

  that they say are going away and then [TS]

  they don't go away a lot of things that [TS]

  they don't tell you are going away just [TS]

  go away in the middle of the night that [TS]

  they tore down two blocks of businesses [TS]

  and apartment buildings on Broadway to [TS]

  build the new subway stop em [TS]

  Seattle is you know very excited about [TS]

  our big subway that is opening finally [TS]

  after after decades after 50 years of [TS]

  talking about internal or longer we [TS]

  finally now have our subway which goes [TS]

  from the University to downtown and it [TS]

  has three stops university one stop on [TS]

  capitol hill and then downtown so it's a [TS]

  three-stop train it cost 80 billion [TS]

  dollars to build i'll come on [TS]

  well maybe not 80 but is up there just a [TS]

  billion dollars to build ya a 400 people [TS]

  lost their lives [TS]

  what no nobody lost their lives anymore [TS]

  i'm so glad you finally out of that [TS]

  racing you can tell the truth you can [TS]

  speak the truth different ways but what [TS]

  they really what they did was they tore [TS]

  down two blocks of kind of you know they [TS]

  weren't the greatest businesses but it [TS]

  was it was it was one of those like [TS]

  stretches of businesses where there was [TS]

  the indian food restaurant there was the [TS]

  bong store yes but there was also the [TS]

  kitty cat bookstore [TS]

  there was the state-owned liquor store [TS]

  there were 4-5 business 45 storefronts [TS]

  where you could for awhile open a store [TS]

  that sold nothing but butane lighters [TS]

  and swords you can open a store that [TS]

  sold like African imports that was [TS]

  perpetually going out of business we [TS]

  call it the eternal flame right the [TS]

  store that we opened with a [TS]

  going-out-of-business sale and it was [TS]

  always going out of business [TS]

  ok like all those places where if you [TS]

  wanted to sell magic the gathering cards [TS]

  and have a fan of folding table where [TS]

  people could play cards in the middle of [TS]

  the day like you could open a store in [TS]

  one of these places they tore them all [TS]

  down including like an old apartment [TS]

  building and and the Minotaur the great [TS]

  coffee shop down the Godfather's Pizza [TS]

  where I used to sleep during the day [TS]

  when I didn't have a place to live [TS]

  normal down to build this subway and [TS]

  they built a huge fence around the hole [TS]

  2 square blocks so you couldn't see what [TS]

  was going on was like what's going on in [TS]

  there you know they're building [TS]

  something they're digging a big hole and [TS]

  then just the other day took the fence [TS]

  down to reveal that at least so far all [TS]

  they've built there is one of those [TS]

  municipal like west coast municipal [TS]

  style stuff subway tunnel entrance kiosk [TS]

  bulbs mean steps [TS]

  uh well because of the because of [TS]

  because Seattle as it has a geography [TS]

  that really is not at all suited to [TS]

  subways the only way to access the [TS]

  tunnel is by express elevator so there's [TS]

  nose-down know there's no escalate [TS]

  that's a terrible idea [TS]

  oh I know you need that for people with [TS]

  motion things though I don't want to [TS]

  only way [TS]

  express elevator because it's so deep [TS]

  under the ground so we're going to slide [TS]

  so here's how you access this thing you [TS]

  get on an elevator with a bunch of [TS]

  strangers [TS]

  and go down so deep into the ground that [TS]

  you can't even take a stair if you [TS]

  wanted to and that's that's their [TS]

  proposed like where we're all supposed [TS]

  to just be like fine with that but [TS]

  leaving that aside what what they have [TS]

  done is they took away they took away [TS]

  two blocks of businesses and and [TS]

  departments and my presumption was [TS]

  behind that giant wall when they were [TS]

  beavering away at digging their whole [TS]

  but they also had a plan to build a [TS]

  six-story building with apartments and [TS]

  ground floor retail in added at what is [TS]

  basically the busiest intersection on [TS]

  Capitol Hill certainly but one of the [TS]

  busiest intersections in the town and [TS]

  they took the wall down and it's just [TS]

  like it's basically a elevator door and [TS]

  so I see what you mean you mean like the [TS]

  kind of thing you'd see like in civic [TS]

  center [TS]

  yeah there's just this creepy elevator [TS]

  tip it's just an elevator door sticking [TS]

  out of a plaza [TS]

  oh that sounds very anticlimactic after [TS]

  all the wall it's terribly [TS]

  anti-climactic and I just look at it I'm [TS]

  like well what's gonna happen here now [TS]

  like what [TS]

  there's no commerce happening there's no [TS]

  no one can live here [TS]

  that's so depressing John it's basically [TS]

  cut one end of broadway off from the [TS]

  other end because you're gonna walk [TS]

  along Broadway you're gonna be looking [TS]

  at the shop windows you're going to come [TS]

  to this elevator shaft and you're going [TS]

  to look past it you're going to see two [TS]

  blocks of just baked plane there's no [TS]

  landscaping and as far as i can tell men [TS]

  and so you're going to turn around and [TS]

  walk up the other side of broadway and [TS]

  and you're not going to get done the two [TS]

  sides of broadway now we're not [TS]

  connected the two ends of it and huge [TS]

  missed opportunity to have like this be [TS]

  a thing and instead what it is it's just [TS]

  a big Plaza where occupy wall street is [TS]

  going to stand around handing out flyers [TS]

  and chanting and wearing a guy fawkes [TS]

  masks and like it's just a they thought [TS]

  that they were building some kind of [TS]

  Logan's Run minimalism but like shitty [TS]

  human beings are going to fill [TS]

  all that space with shittiness [TS]

  immediately the best thing that is going [TS]

  to be there is maybe somebody doing some [TS]

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  this not only we understand i mean i [TS]

  hereby can't tell how much this is john [TS]

  joking but the idea of like so there's [TS]

  an elevator people get in it they go way [TS]

  down to the subway is there are they are [TS]

  their constant elevator going up and [TS]

  down is there one elevator to go way [TS]

  down now they go way down now name it [TS]

  sounds a little bit like this corrosion [TS]

  by sisters of mercy [TS]

  mhm what we goin for uh well the song [TS]

  way down now i'll try this one [TS]

  we're down we're down now oh haha i like [TS]

  that we're down radar bae way down [TS]

  yahoo Rodin I said it not just type [TS]

  casey james even know what that is [TS]

  caseyjames sounds like a missing child [TS]

  except it's the casey james we're going [TS]

  to write a missing child casey james the [TS]

  I the buyer by good my fellow senators [TS]

  to endorse the way down case James bill [TS]

  what you're going to protect the [TS]

  children from being abducted quote to [TS]

  quote the great sound [TS]

  love daddy passed hey now hey now seeing [TS]

  this corrosion he now [TS]

  oh is it a bank of elevators how many [TS]

  how many elevators are there extant I [TS]

  don't know if you've ever ridden a [TS]

  municipal elevator that just opens into [TS]

  a part i spent just under 49 years [TS]

  avoiding municipal elevator [TS]

  avoiding municipal elevator [TS]

  because I know it's just a moving toilet [TS]

  yeah well that's exactly right like if I [TS]

  municipal elevator people need them here [TS]

  and i'll get a pop of my thoughts [TS]

  sometimes but hey the elevators Bart [TS]

  elevators are out at civic center or [TS]

  wherever but like people just shit [TS]

  that's what they are they're just moving [TS]

  jitters [TS]

  I mean about an elevator in a city [TS]

  building where they lock the doors at [TS]

  night and they have cleaning crews those [TS]

  elevators most of the time don't work [TS]

  and are like yeah right people use them [TS]

  as bathrooms now [TS]

  picture an elevator that's just open to [TS]

  the world and and tell me even if they [TS]

  had 20 banks of them and even if they [TS]

  were the fastest self-cleaning elevators [TS]

  in the world are you its there's so many [TS]

  points of failure would you ever get on [TS]

  one I would not ever get on one how [TS]

  long's the ride [TS]

  kinda like 11 minutes haha oh I mean it [TS]

  was like an 11-minute elevator ride [TS]

  every day [TS]

  basically it feels like you would be [TS]

  with your standing there like my the [TS]

  chilean miner am I the chilean miner I'm [TS]

  gonna get on this elevator all i want to [TS]

  do is take a film average and I'm gonna [TS]

  get on this I'm gonna go down and then [TS]

  and then I'm gonna be down there they're [TS]

  gonna be drilling a hole and sending me [TS]

  like cheese sandwiches through a whole [TS]

  there's only one stop at the top ground [TS]

  level and there's one stop at the subway [TS]

  you're gonna get the satisfying king of [TS]

  making progress right is there a [TS]

  thermometer to show you when you get [TS]

  closer to the subway [TS]

  it's a really good question you haven't [TS]

  been on this have you what it's not open [TS]

  you should get a tour [TS]

  the thing is this is why would i would [TS]

  have loved a tour and when during my [TS]

  political almost came in second for an [TS]

  election you should be one of the first [TS]

  people in that elevator and now during [TS]

  my aspirin days there there were people [TS]

  who were already you know public [TS]

  officers who were given like advanced [TS]

  rides on the train and it looks amazing [TS]

  it looks really cool because Seattle has [TS]

  never had a subway and also since the [TS]

  subway only has three stops it's just a [TS]

  huge long tunnel that the train go [TS]

  really fast [TS]

  you know this that I gotta read about [TS]

  this this sounds read this sounds I got [TS]

  you know it sounds like I John you know [TS]

  me i do not use this word lightly I [TS]

  think this sounds like a boondoggle [TS]

  seattle is so characterized by [TS]

  boondoggles that I don't even know [TS]

  anymore whether you know I have to [TS]

  really resist the impulse to start [TS]

  saying things like Seattle gets what it [TS]

  deserves because it consistently votes [TS]

  against good practical things including [TS]

  me and it boats for like a kind of rule [TS]

  by committee process that produces half [TS]

  acid- but also mega mega expensive half [TS]

  acid- so it's like okay we've got the [TS]

  train which wich strokes like in [TS]

  nineteen visit rain feels like no I [TS]

  gotta tell you what you're saying like [TS]

  the outline of that is old trains trains [TS]

  are great subways are great [TS]

  yeah exactly it sounds to me like [TS]

  they're very attracted to these novel [TS]

  solutions that don't actually address [TS]

  the problem and here's the thing i feel [TS]

  like in 1967 when we when we proposed [TS]

  building a network of subways here and [TS]

  it was voted down by the voters in 1967 [TS]

  if we had used the technology available [TS]

  to us at the time to build a subway [TS]

  network we would have built up a [TS]

  perfectly good network of interconnected [TS]

  trains using 1967 technology we could [TS]

  have done it using 1912 technology and [TS]

  built up built a workable system but [TS]

  what ends up happening out here is that [TS]

  we don't do it don't do it don't do it [TS]

  and then when it's finally time to do it [TS]

  we decide on the one hand that that the [TS]

  people who are pushing for the subway [TS]

  are the people who are like still mad [TS]

  that we didn't do it 50 years ago so so [TS]

  in a way the plan is based on this like [TS]

  almost retro desire to do [TS]

  have to finally have the thing that we [TS]

  should have had but then other people [TS]

  attach themselves to it who are who are [TS]

  like well you know what tunnel drilling [TS]

  technology has really improved in the [TS]

  last 40 years and now we can build the [TS]

  real technologically advanced super [TS]

  version of this thing and so what was [TS]

  cool and quaint and good about the idea [TS]

  from 50 years ago now gets turned into a [TS]

  thing where it's like well modern [TS]

  technology requires that we put this [TS]

  thing's 500 feet underground which means [TS]

  that every time we build the station it [TS]

  cost another billion dollars so in order [TS]

  to keep prices down we can't build that [TS]

  many stations so we're only gonna have [TS]

  one station and it's going to be 500 [TS]

  feet underground indefinitely [TS]

  suddenly you're so many intellectual and [TS]

  practical steps away from a good idea [TS]

  yeah but it's still it's still kind of a [TS]

  good idea it's just there each one of [TS]

  those steps took off like twenty to [TS]

  fifty percent of the coolness [TS]

  yeah the coolness of the technology now [TS]

  is dictating the usefulness of the train [TS]

  which is only useful if it is accessible [TS]

  and the accessibility people who are [TS]

  like we'll wait a moment like like I [TS]

  don't even know if I would ever take the [TS]

  stairs but I'd like there to be some [TS]

  stairs [TS]

  that's just a comfort level thing I you [TS]

  know like I'd like to Baja to smell the [TS]

  fresh air [TS]

  I look up and see the daylight even from [TS]

  500 feet below like but they're like [TS]

  well you have to be a raging [TS]

  claustrophobic to find that a little bit [TS]

  unsettling [TS]

  oh my god or just get out you know I [TS]

  don't want to get on an elevator unless [TS]

  I really really have to let alone if [TS]

  that's my concentration three stories i [TS]

  will almost always take the steps [TS]

  yeah and that's the thing this the [TS]

  subway is not fewer than three stories [TS]

  and secondly since a couple there i [TS]

  don't know this is the same station but [TS]

  it looks like it's about i would [TS]

  estimate three others were 46 stories [TS]

  and 100 stories 300 this [TS]

  100 stories down three to seven hundred [TS]

  stories everything is you know that just [TS]

  the spitball to be against it to be [TS]

  getting nowhere but i don't think that [TS]

  that is that the mighty this other 1i [TS]

  sent you to who [TS]

  there's something look like they have [TS]

  escalators it's hard to do a podcast and [TS]

  you extensive internet research who [TS]

  Westhead house I think that you're [TS]

  looking this one that has no no see [TS]

  that's beacon hill so that's not even [TS]

  that's not the one the big wide one what [TS]

  is that construction of a brand-new [TS]

  someone that's the University of [TS]

  Washington so what you're looking for is [TS]

  the capitol hill station [TS]

  okay and I think you will find see that [TS]

  this this this one that you sent me from [TS]

  the University of Washington that looks [TS]

  like a decent subway station it's like [TS]

  45 stories underground got some elevator [TS]

  sure but they're escalators to the [TS]

  beacon hill one does not have well let's [TS]

  let's try to chase though the CD current [TS]

  number and see I'm trying to get [TS]

  thinking here of like the way that they [TS]

  built the essential subway system in san [TS]

  francisco and how even today people [TS]

  laugh at that because it's a diagonal [TS]

  line like that's the subways but but it [TS]

  actually does it is it does serve a [TS]

  purpose i mean it is extremely busy [TS]

  during the day and the stops are pretty [TS]

  saying like but they move a lot of [TS]

  people over that whatever that 22 23 [TS]

  miles and it does it [TS]

  I can't imagine not having it because [TS]

  now I mean now they're like try to get [TS]

  less and less stuff on market street [TS]

  because it's such a shitshow on market [TS]

  street right now i mean i think they [TS]

  recently passed a law about wasn't no [TS]

  private cars during the day or something [TS]

  you can't like make a left turn on there [TS]

  anyway there's all kinds of things are [TS]

  trying to do with that what a mess [TS]

  I mean it's all it's all a mess and I [TS]

  and I really don't wanna I don't wanna [TS]

  to slip into this posture of like [TS]

  Seattle just [TS]

  seattle just deserve what it gets [TS]

  because because something about the [TS]

  process of making decisions here is so [TS]

  irretrievably broken and has been for so [TS]

  long that it's just it's baked into it [TS]

  you know like you cannot propose [TS]

  something good here without it being [TS]

  ruined [TS]

  not not by any one person not by the [TS]

  big-money interests but just by a [TS]

  collective action of people here that [TS]

  that that combination of like a busybody [TS]

  NIMBY Democrat yeah I don't like this [TS]

  person already you know what I mean like [TS]

  they just everybody's got to have [TS]

  everybody's gotta stand up at the public [TS]

  meeting and say their two cents and and [TS]

  and yet you know there's it never gets [TS]

  like at the end of the meeting they just [TS]

  adjourn until the next meeting no [TS]

  decision ever really gets made until [TS]

  it's just too late and then the decision [TS]

  gets made by somebody in you know by [TS]

  some buddy in an office somewhere who [TS]

  just had to you know just had to choose [TS]

  because the their breaking ground [TS]

  tomorrow i don't know i don't understand [TS]

  how how we could be on the one hand in [TS]

  this town screaming at each other about [TS]

  density and affordability and on the [TS]

  other hand to square blocks of [TS]

  businesses in the very central core of [TS]

  Capitol Hill have been reduced to an [TS]

  elevator shaft and there's no you know [TS]

  and and it's nobody's fault right [TS]

  there's nobody to point out and say what [TS]

  were you thinking [TS]

  why do what was there a public comment [TS]

  process [TS]

  oh yes there was 46 years we took public [TS]

  comments [TS]

  it's like oh can I see a record of those [TS]

  comments and you know it's like six [TS]

  years they held hearings where people in [TS]

  tin foil hats with like a like a dog in [TS]

  the front basket of their bike stood up [TS]

  and yelled about chemtrails [TS]

  and the city peep the city and county [TS]

  administrator's SAT there and took it [TS]

  never never hammered the gavel down [TS]

  never said this is not a productive [TS]

  process they just SAT and listened all [TS]

  those public comments and then they [TS]

  decided then you know they went back to [TS]

  their officer like you know we need an [TS]

  elevator shaft would not be cool and [TS]

  thinking about planning for the future [TS]

  mean this is a lot of instant [TS]

  restructure too so I guess you already [TS]

  said this sort of but it's a lot of [TS]

  infrastructure that will end up [TS]

  committing you to an increasingly costly [TS]

  and not very flexible way of growing [TS]

  system has no matter what you do it's [TS]

  gonna have to be 25 stories underground [TS]

  and disruptive to everything above it [TS]

  and then make an elevator nipple [TS]

  yep yep [TS]

  now if I were in charge em I would have [TS]

  just left that swords and butane lighter [TS]

  store because eternal flame [TS]

  well yeah because you can get your he [TS]

  could get your horoscope and a little [TS]

  scroll there after you about your magic [TS]

  gathering cards you could go over and [TS]

  and get some essential oils and filters [TS]

  for your faucet quote-unquote faucet [TS]

  filters [TS]

  that's right that's right that's right [TS]

  it's a water pipe personal package back [TS]

  only to see the sign [TS]

  yeah look at the sign that says right [TS]

  there we're going to open a restaurant [TS]

  you and me [TS]

  yeah I feel like opening a restaurant I [TS]

  feel like this is this is something i've [TS]

  been saying to my friends for many many [TS]

  years which is if you don't like working [TS]

  in a restaurant is the briefs the [TS]

  problem [TS]

  yeah why would you open a restaurant [TS]

  you're just giving yourself a job [TS]

  working in a restaurant cake we pay [TS]

  someone else to open a restaurant I feel [TS]

  like making food and selling food here's [TS]

  the only way to do it is to sell one [TS]

  thing which is to sell gourmet corn dogs [TS]

  ok if you become the gourmet corn dog [TS]

  king and all you sell his gourmet [TS]

  corndogs and let's say one of the things [TS]

  chocolate milkshakes gourmet corndogs [TS]

  and chocolate conversations all you sell [TS]

  yeah then you don't have to worry about [TS]

  anything you have to pickle anything you [TS]

  don't have to explain your menu to [TS]

  anybody [TS]

  gourmet corn dogs are expensive because [TS]

  they say gourmet so you can sure you can [TS]

  charge a lot more you can actually [TS]

  profit from your job right you can sell [TS]

  a gourmet corndog for what eight bucks [TS]

  what if we had a just what if we had six [TS]

  kinds of sauces and then some bread [TS]

  hmm so-so we call Johnny sauce and [TS]

  coming Johnny sauce Asian sauce really [TS]

  all about the sauce get a flight of [TS]

  sauces and whatever fucking bread nobody [TS]

  really cares it just is what it is [TS]

  locally sourced from a gravy [TS]

  what are the six sources of the six out [TS]

  of the wood called the parent sauces the [TS]

  God sauces [TS]

  yeah but you gotta best male pop you got [TS]

  ravioli owes what's your top sauce with [TS]

  my top sauce [TS]

  what's the tops off that at the six [TS]

  sauce at the top of the sauce chain [TS]

  yeah she said no sauce on top chef not [TS]

  too long ago and I don't remember them i [TS]

  think bolin 8-spoke mazes the top sauce [TS]

  that's that's a media tomato sauce [TS]

  yeah but it's more meat than tomato [TS]

  that's right cool isn't it [TS]

  see we can work all this out johnny [TS]

  sauces you come on in there and it's [TS]

  mostly about the sauce you get a cup of [TS]

  sauce and then maybe the spoons are made [TS]

  out of bread bread spoons [TS]

  you're right and we started this [TS]

  business I don't have three what they're [TS]

  gluten-free uh I guess they could just [TS]

  they could just use a actually usable [TS]

  spoon you know computing overusing just [TS]

  stick with the corn dogs but now [TS]

  yeah that's right gourmet corn dog how [TS]

  much would you pay for a gourmet [TS]

  coordinate tonight except a 675 what if [TS]

  it was nine bucks sure it's kind of the [TS]

  sauce that comes with the ramekin of [TS]

  homemade ketchup idea that pickled [TS]

  cucumbers know what gourmet corndog [TS]

  chocolate shake those are your options [TS]

  alright i'm in i guess would you spend [TS]

  nine dollars on a gourmet corner how [TS]

  gourmet would have to be I would try it [TS]

  at least once i would have to know to a [TS]

  fair certainty that Dad that it did his [TS]

  artisanal ingredients and I'm just some [TS]

  kind of a switcheroo know the hot dog is [TS]

  made a all locally sourced from within a [TS]

  hundred miles of here okay [TS]

  in court the cornmeal that goes into the [TS]

  corn dog part is from non-gmo corn [TS]

  that's heritage corn all heritage going [TS]

  against got everybody's got good [TS]

  insurance if any range farmers that's [TS]

  right native american heritage corn maze [TS]

  runners it's fried in artisanal pork fat [TS]

  which is then used to power the food [TS]

  truck that's right the pork fat is it's [TS]

  a it's bio diesel truck uh-huh and then [TS]

  the chocolate milkshake is made out of [TS]

  100-percent sustainably sourced cocoa [TS]

  where we have relationships with all [TS]

  those farmers all the cocoa farmers and [TS]

  I are you or is probably going to be me [TS]

  we have to go down to Central America [TS]

  all the time and meet with them your [TS]

  daughter could drive there [TS]

  that's right we'll drive there in our [TS]

  Jeep all that stuff shade-grown mm okay [TS]

  i was gonna say anything [TS]

  yeah and then we know we know the milk [TS]

  producers and and the cows all have [TS]

  names on Luisa that's right this is [TS]

  Luis's that today we're drinking Louise [TS]

  shakes asses and and you know and then [TS]

  the milkshakes are also nine dollars [TS]

  not exactly what I had in mind but i [TS]

  would i would invest in / eat there [TS]

  sometimes I would I would you would [TS]

  invest though that's what really matters [TS]

  not a lot don't have a lot of dough but [TS]

  i would put something into that you [TS]

  really care about is a passion project [TS]

  for John you can put you know what you [TS]

  could drive this up right next to the [TS]

  elevator nipple [TS]

  mm I feel like no I'm not passionate [TS]

  about this i feel that i do not want to [TS]

  be in the food service business I don't [TS]

  want to work at the shop and all I don't [TS]

  want to I mean I don't even want to sell [TS]

  vintage menswear which is a thing I [TS]

  actually am passionate about because I [TS]

  think I would be disappointed everyday [TS]

  guy would come in I see this all the [TS]

  time guy comes into the shop looking [TS]

  around I go hey how you doing nice to [TS]

  you know I caa1 looking for today [TS]

  just browsing ok the guy takes a jacket [TS]

  down off the rack and I kind of stand up [TS]

  from my stool and I go oh that's a cool [TS]

  jacket a Kennedy administration it's [TS]

  sold by by a kind of a venerable let the [TS]

  guys already paying it back up [TS]

  yeah I'm like okay so sit back down and [TS]

  look at the internet for a while and he [TS]

  walks around he picks up a thing and I [TS]

  see and i'm really into this and I stand [TS]

  up and go home [TS]

  wow did very nice choice like you have a [TS]

  really good I that is a pair of court [TS]

  upon Alton's but you know sold by brooks [TS]

  brothers and he puts him down and [TS]

  wanders around and then he comes and I'm [TS]

  just like Jesus question the bunny and I [TS]

  sit down on the stool again and then he [TS]

  comes over and he buys you know like a [TS]

  pair of chinese-made socks that i'm [TS]

  selling just because i have to you know [TS]

  I have to have something in there that [TS]

  actually sells and win Leiter cases [TS]

  yeah or then he comes off as i can use [TS]

  about through or whatever and I'm just [TS]

  like how nobody gives a shit about the [TS]

  stuff that I care about and and I have [TS]

  and I'm here to serve them perhaps [TS]

  already says anything about hugo boss [TS]

  and aren't something like that where I'm [TS]

  like oh fuck you know get out of here [TS]

  hit the streets [TS]

  mhm you're right it's a recipe for [TS]

  heartbreak [TS]

  that's the thing i don't need to be any [TS]

  more sad know [TS]