Roderick on the Line

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◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going

◼   ► great

◼   ► good all right stay up super duper how

◼   ► about you

◼   ► great let's wrap it up alright how many

◼   ► times when I'm talking about

◼   ► do-do-do-do-do thanks for tuning in

◼   ► again yeah thanks for coming to our

◼   ► normally complain about stuff like that

◼   ► we are super good right now we've got

◼   ► you know what wouldn't be finding that

◼   ► would be funny if we just had a week

◼   ► where everything was okay

◼   ► yeah how we imagine that any measure you

◼   ► know what nothing intolerable nothing I

◼   ► know it's I've got worse and worse

◼   ► months everybody was driving fine

◼   ► yep anything about Hitler one on the

◼   ► weigh-in today I passed you know there's

◼   ► a small traffic jam but not one that I

◼   ► was upset about because the the source

◼   ► of it was that a cop it pulled over a

◼   ► lime green lamborghini diablo oh that's

◼   ► okay

◼   ► and everybody else looks slow down to

◼   ► see it and I was like yeah of course of

◼   ► course

◼   ► oh my god said that person who whoever

◼   ► paid for that car probably got to choose

◼   ► from many many colors

◼   ► well yeah many many colors mean that

◼   ► they'll say let's see I mean you had one

◼   ► black and yellow red white

◼   ► ok but let's assume even you get three

◼   ► colors oh and you pick lime-green that's

◼   ► just you know that way you talk about a

◼   ► fuck you to everybody

◼   ► mhm did you notice i'm driving a

◼   ► Lamborghini Diablo did you notice man

◼   ► oh then that's a nice car to get pulled

◼   ► over and it's very luxurious well you

◼   ► know I can't imagine that you would ever

◼   ► get out of first gear in it in town and

◼   ► if you were the type of person that

◼   ► would drive one around town like that's

◼   ► the thing about a car like that right

◼   ► you know driving around town you drive

◼   ► it you get out of town you take it out

◼   ► on this number to say but the call was

◼   ► that with the road you going in Germany

◼   ► the steinberger said the rash tag the

◼   ► mainspring some wrangle the right gold

◼   ► there goes the recycle the original

◼   ► the ring shot at the nürburgring in

◼   ► nürburgring nürnberg yeah I have a

◼   ► couple friends who've driven on the nerd

◼   ► bird nürburgring our friend Marco Marco

◼   ► has driven on the Nurburgring in his m7

◼   ► tourism niners m12 yeah it's pretty nice

◼   ► guy i'm giving you believe it's a pretty

◼   ► nice car you never been in it

◼   ► no I I mean I don't even know that we

◼   ► need to address or something like that

◼   ► uh-huh I think they probably probably

◼   ► she wear something like inside-out

◼   ► sweatpants something that wouldn't want

◼   ► more of the seats i'm guessing

◼   ► inside-out sweatpants maybe a little

◼   ► sheep skin like ask chap that strips

◼   ► yeah you know everybody says oh assless

◼   ► chaps and then all the put the pendants

◼   ► early Ferb but what about it just a

◼   ► straight-up just that just the missing

◼   ► part of said it just lets it down at all

◼   ► like yeah like a little just little ass

◼   ► ass infront felt like maybe you don't

◼   ► want though the weight and performance

◼   ► characteristics of full-on chaps maybe

◼   ► you just want the part where you're

◼   ► asking normally stick out maybe you're

◼   ► modest you want to go to a parade and

◼   ► ride on the float but you don't want

◼   ► your butt cheeks out there

◼   ► yeah chaps are meant if you're on a

◼   ► horse who and your horse brushes up

◼   ► against another horse or a cow or a

◼   ► fence a with your horses want to do

◼   ► right horse is trying to knock you off

◼   ► as best they can John they're doing the

◼   ► best they can and if they see a

◼   ► low-hanging branch or a cow

◼   ► they're going to get up on it and hope

◼   ► that they can knock you off and that's

◼   ► why you have chaps on right to keep your

◼   ► pant legs from getting a braided or

◼   ► something I don't know why you wear

◼   ► chaps frankly I but there's lots of

◼   ► reasons I mean sorta like you're

◼   ► describing it's like so like why you

◼   ► would wear gloves there's all kinds of

◼   ► things you're gonna encounter that could

◼   ► take a chunk out of you brush let's say

◼   ► brush probably a lot of brushes by very

◼   ► coarse point yet parts pointy brush but

◼   ► what is the equivalent if you're riding

◼   ► around in marco arment m5 it you don't

◼   ► need to protect you

◼   ► you need to protect the car

◼   ► uh-huh and so you have some sheepskin

◼   ► reverse chaps which I guess we're just

◼   ► going to call ass chaps right over or

◼   ► like

◼   ► he's a loincloth chaps yeah yeah I think

◼   ► they'll be a skirt

◼   ► well except you don't want it on the

◼   ► side you want to be cool and breezy on

◼   ► the side you're not touching the car on

◼   ► the side just wanted you wanted in the

◼   ► back you wanted in the back to took to

◼   ► give a nice buff to the leather seats

◼   ► and not too much it's not too much to

◼   ► ask

◼   ► I don't know why you wanted in the front

◼   ► just for us a comfortable place to

◼   ► arrest your hands

◼   ► yeah I don't you want to look at

◼   ► somebody's while you're driving around

◼   ► in your BMW exactly exactly right so

◼   ► it's more of a it's like a ass

◼   ► it's a it's a it's a it's like a

◼   ► polishing rag on the bottom i get a

◼   ► modesty skirt on the front like Elega i

◼   ► knw burka

◼   ► yeah okay great name for a BMW by the

◼   ► way the burqa yeah we tried the new be

◼   ► taken out on this time Steinberg

◼   ► instruction so you're gonna get letters

◼   ► yeah i sure am I sure I wasn't gonna ask

◼   ► you about yes you get the Germans get

◼   ► Marc Armand over here i'll copy up ya

◼   ► know soon as soon as you've been

◼   ► traveling yeah I've done a lot of

◼   ► traveling I'm not done yet because as

◼   ► you know the life of an artist is the

◼   ► life of an eternal vacation basically

◼   ► I've just been on a I've just been on

◼   ► two major warm-weather vacations and now

◼   ► I'm going on a on a lengthy ski trip

◼   ► it's it i can't defend it

◼   ► really yeah i don't i don't produce

◼   ► anything worthwhile for the world right

◼   ► I'm yui marking don't feel like you need

◼   ► to defend that John I'm like a game

◼   ► designer except they don't even design

◼   ► games

◼   ► yeah it's true he has much value though

◼   ► right i mean you know what we write his

◼   ► paper hat my daughters like that a

◼   ► favorite video game right now is a game

◼   ► where you stare at this same area of a

◼   ► backyard of a house and try to make cats

◼   ► come into the yard

◼   ► I'm doing what you would never do in

◼   ► real life right and so the answer your

◼   ► way for cats to come and then you try to

◼   ► track the cats and then that gives you

◼   ► the opportunity i don't exactly

◼   ► understand claim to understand the game

◼   ► i know it is primarily about collecting

◼   ► cats you get like pictures of them and

◼   ► stuff but then also when you I think

◼   ► your reward for attracting cats it is

◼   ► you're given the opportunity to buy buy

◼   ► goods virtual goods inside the game that

◼   ► enables you to attract more cats

◼   ► oh sure sure she loves it uh-uh I'm

◼   ► wondering now that you say this I've

◼   ► always been very curious about

◼   ► birdwatchers

◼   ► oh yeah because they're out here i think

◼   ► it was a cover up front for something

◼   ► else

◼   ► well yeah me too but but the more I look

◼   ► into it the more it seems that they are

◼   ► just out for watching Birds gathering

◼   ► gather it was what they're gathering

◼   ► having watched a bird collecting the

◼   ► experience of having seen a bird

◼   ► yeah and different birds so they're like

◼   ► did you ever have you ever seen a

◼   ► spotted throated warboss yeah sure

◼   ► though the third row warthog yeah the

◼   ► war or wearing warbling bore blah grow

◼   ► long and the other person goes yes and

◼   ► then they both have collected having

◼   ► seen it over and that's very interesting

◼   ► to me and they're not in the

◼   ► birdwatchers of the bird photographers

◼   ► are different people too so they're not

◼   ► even watch they're not even collecting

◼   ► having taken a picture of a thing I've

◼   ► never had an opportunity to talk about

◼   ► this and i haven't actually thought

◼   ► about it that much but as you get older

◼   ► you start to realize that there are what

◼   ► you from isms for example use their

◼   ► existential euphemisms for example like

◼   ► it let's say you look for opportunities

◼   ► like for my wife i think i think going

◼   ► to the gym or going to yoga is very much

◼   ► about going to the gym and going to yoga

◼   ► that's always a part of it but but it's

◼   ► also that she's not with us like she

◼   ► gets an hour to herself or two hours or

◼   ► you're saying yeah I'm just like dad

◼   ► saying all we're out of milk

◼   ► I'm happy to go to the store and get

◼   ► some milk uh-huh because you get a

◼   ► second to yourself and maybe you can

◼   ► smoke a cigarette

◼   ► yeah like my grandfather said I'm going

◼   ► out for a packet

◼   ► and he didn't come back for 15 years

◼   ► yeah or like that it's all it's a lot

◼   ► like that and so I don't know why but as

◼   ► I got older I started to think it's not

◼   ► that I can't imagine why someone would

◼   ► super watching it just it seems a little

◼   ► obscure it's one of those things like

◼   ► gorilla costumes are quicksand in the

◼   ► seventies where it came up so often the

◼   ► even as weird as it was like is that

◼   ► much quicksand in the world wait a

◼   ► minute you are really nailing something

◼   ► here have you talked about this before

◼   ► I've mentioned another place I'm not the

◼   ► only person there is actually her

◼   ► podcast a few years ago about what

◼   ► happened quicksand is quicksand was

◼   ► everywhere it was it was terrified of

◼   ► quicksand it seemed like it looked

◼   ► around every corner there was certainly

◼   ► a period probably half a year wherever I

◼   ► would avoid sand because given the

◼   ► exposure in the media

◼   ► I had to assume that there was quicksand

◼   ► out there I just didn't know about and

◼   ► also people Gorillaz it's so well about

◼   ► that was not true i expected that though

◼   ► and-and-and birthday party clowns oh I

◼   ► still never met anybody who actually

◼   ► looks forward to meeting a cloud

◼   ► no but we were going to believe your

◼   ► soul to build good John we were led to

◼   ► believe that there was a clown culture

◼   ► out there that somebody like and I've

◼   ► never met anybody who wasn't a clown who

◼   ► actually like the clown see I don't mind

◼   ► clowns but I had a traumatic clown

◼   ► experience as a child of God but i'm

◼   ► wondering how quick stand fits into the

◼   ► Bermuda Triangle a Bigfoot Loch Ness

◼   ► monster sure that the in search of era

◼   ► yeah like what how did quick same factor

◼   ► into that that's so interesting it seems

◼   ► it seems contemporaneous what you're all

◼   ► so you're telling this like there was

◼   ► this period where there has to be a

◼   ► reason why this was and maybe it was

◼   ► like post hippie like free new-age

◼   ► America was very interested in all kinds

◼   ► of like what do concepts about remember

◼   ► there's that period even before in

◼   ► search of there was that time life set

◼   ► of books but there's all this too

◼   ► interesting aliens about the you know

◼   ► the ETA is coming to visit us

◼   ► sure secret Nazi weapons shore

◼   ► underground or underwater kingdoms you

◼   ► got to get the Sasquatch yep right at

◼   ► the Bigfoot Loch Ness monster it was

◼   ► everywhere I think this is part of the

◼   ► appeal now that we're talking about it

◼   ► of the original Indiana Jones movie

◼   ► oh remember we all went into that he's

◼   ► got a lot of those elements yeah and

◼   ► where

◼   ► we were asked as ten-year-old kids 12

◼   ► year old kids we were primed to think

◼   ► that there were little you know little

◼   ► secret Mayan temples full of gold idols

◼   ► and and secret Nazi weapons in Nazi

◼   ► weapons you've also got sort of like a

◼   ► like the whole like religious cult

◼   ► supernatural component parties into the

◼   ► Nazis yes it's all it's all baked into

◼   ► the Bermuda Triangle scene now and they

◼   ► had snakes in that I don't remember

◼   ► there being quicksand but also you know

◼   ► quicksand is also a fetish there are

◼   ► quicksand fetishists really there are

◼   ► people who think it's kinda it's a sexy

◼   ► thing for some people

◼   ► I get that I get that I grew up with

◼   ► enough for something on TV and you're

◼   ► gonna want to masturbate to it

◼   ► eventually

◼   ► quicksand figures prominently in the

◼   ► princess bride in the princess bride

◼   ► Oh what's the idea that the heels you

◼   ► got the oh that's right yeah you're

◼   ► right

◼   ► yeah I don't understand i'm still trying

◼   ► to parse it is this is coming up more

◼   ► and more you know i was just on a cruise

◼   ► yeah and I we were invited to visit the

◼   ► bridge which I had never had never been

◼   ► invited to the bridge before and they

◼   ► didn't look at the computer but not it

◼   ► that's not huh

◼   ► no they're sailors up there in various

◼   ► uniforms who and there's a captain in

◼   ► our case he was a ship captain from

◼   ► Winnipeg which right away that should

◼   ► ring some alarm bells is a landlocked

◼   ► area John yeah they're yeah

◼   ► winnipeg doesn't know where a lot of

◼   ► doesn't doesn't have this to see in his

◼   ► veins

◼   ► nothing normally when you need to see

◼   ► Captain he's either from the Netherlands

◼   ► or from the Netherlands all right there

◼   ► off from the netherlands in other words

◼   ► or from Greece the whole the boats all

◼   ► the boats it's like they don't boats

◼   ► have their own delaware isn't a delaware

◼   ► of boats you always register in it but

◼   ► me or what is it is one place where

◼   ► everybody registers to think it's the

◼   ► bell whereas Nassau yeah something like

◼   ► that and then you so you get your boat

◼   ► and you act like it's from the Delaware

◼   ► of boats and then you hire some some

◼   ► tall blond guy to run your book because

◼   ► he's always a

◼   ► another lender yeah yeah the the

◼   ► Nederlanders grow up basically knee-deep

◼   ► in water and that's how they become ship

◼   ► captains because it's the only way they

◼   ► can on the water ya got the water get up

◼   ► onto a boat and your people dry out

◼   ► eventually

◼   ► the Greeks also there are a lot of

◼   ► islands there and they they're all

◼   ► Abbott sailors but this guy's Canadians

◼   ► oh ok i mean the kid obviously the

◼   ► Canadians have a lot of sailors but not

◼   ► from Winnipeg

◼   ► yeah but don't have any boats right one

◼   ► category well this is no you got to get

◼   ► that area on the east coast where they

◼   ► got a boat almost like there's no boats

◼   ► but you don't have sufficient votes to

◼   ► sellers not enough but I mean is there

◼   ► like a large amount of Navy I in say

◼   ► like that like whether we get the

◼   ► saskatoon is a place in Canada but

◼   ► there's no Navy there you get the Navy

◼   ► in Toronto I you're not gonna have a lot

◼   ► of maybe although there's a there's a

◼   ► there's a lake you have a lake Navy and

◼   ► heroin you haven't yeah you'd have

◼   ► thought the old heroin maybe but you

◼   ► know candy and Canada's Navy is very

◼   ► important because Canada needs to

◼   ► protect its Arctic sea ways

◼   ► Oh like way up there old boy that's that

◼   ► that is a gig I would not want

◼   ► well yeah except see this is the thing

◼   ► about the measure for the quicksand is

◼   ► probably not a lot of quicksand when you

◼   ► got that no don't know what's up there

◼   ► because it has frozen over quicksand

◼   ► well but that's the ice recedes there

◼   ► might be there might be a a lien a

◼   ► civilization that mean that's where

◼   ► you're going to find it

◼   ► Bermuda triangles yes a big foots quick

◼   ► ice quick guys

◼   ► quicksand Mayan temples it could all be

◼   ► up there so not a lot of territory

◼   ► there's a lot you know I think the

◼   ► coastline of canada is like the longest

◼   ► coastline in the world or something like

◼   ► that because it just is all crazy up

◼   ► there but as the chasm and abroad

◼   ► well also yeah no true Scotsman but the

◼   ► but all the nations of the world are now

◼   ► trying to scoot in and out of these

◼   ► canadian areas because the sea ice has

◼   ► receded and there's oil up there and so

◼   ► Canada's got a whole Navy that's all

◼   ► worried about that they're not worried

◼   ► about pot smuggling anymore because it's

◼   ► all coming from Canada

◼   ► anyway so this guy's for me a Winnipeg

◼   ► and here's the here's the rub are you

◼   ► ready ready here's why I got to go to

◼   ► the bridge because the captain who was

◼   ► 65 years old is an enormous wil wheaton

◼   ► fan

◼   ► oh interesting and he hears will

◼   ► weakness on his boat and he's like got

◼   ► me well we bring him to the bridge

◼   ► yeah exactly everything that whistle

◼   ► noise well so of course will has the

◼   ► communicator sound oh my god wait a

◼   ► minute okay own I believe I'm putting

◼   ► this together now

◼   ► oh my god and he's akiza kills you he

◼   ► was on the star trac yeah in the in the

◼   ► eighties that's correct or not you're a

◼   ► tease

◼   ► yeah it was in college he was on the

◼   ► star track and and he was he played he

◼   ► played Beverly Crusher and he was the

◼   ► guy with the crab face right yeah

◼   ► exactly like cats

◼   ► he i thought was the one to me talking

◼   ► penguin and smoke a cigarette in a long

◼   ► sort of a pipe

◼   ► oh yeah right that's the that's a guy's

◼   ► Balfour that's the name of the bartender

◼   ► it was in another color purple

◼   ► well and he's the reason better but the

◼   ► Middle East is so unevenly defined well

◼   ► I didn't bring it up here but in any

◼   ► case this is so great we round out the

◼   ► guy from Star track is on his boat

◼   ► that's right and on the first thing he

◼   ► says when we walked onto the bridges he

◼   ► points to his captain's cheerios we had

◼   ► that modeled off of the enterprise and

◼   ► we all you know get courtesy chuckle

◼   ► he's super nice guy super nice captain

◼   ► he walks around as I say wills phone

◼   ► periodically he would get a text and it

◼   ► would make the communicator sound and

◼   ► the captain would like literally giggle

◼   ► what you mean this guy's like 280 pounds

◼   ► like sea captain all of his all of his

◼   ► staff

◼   ► I'm talking about like hundreds of

◼   ► sailors when he walks by they all cower

◼   ► I mean not because then I'm sure not

◼   ► because he's mean but because the it's

◼   ► the law of the sea right he's the

◼   ► captain

◼   ► that's a pretty big deal on a boat you

◼   ► don't step onto the bridge unless you've

◼   ► you know unless you like it's his boat

◼   ► it's his boat that's how that's how

◼   ► captioning works it's a pretty big deal

◼   ► i think yeah there was a there was a

◼   ► there's a button in in some of the

◼   ► public bathrooms it says you know in in

◼   ► better emergency push this button but

◼   ► don't push this button frivolously

◼   ► because it rings on the bridge but we

◼   ► will come rescue you and we will come

◼   ► rescue you

◼   ► hard as a former productivity expert

◼   ► have to tell you that is that is a

◼   ► category terrible idea

◼   ► well it's not like the captain's gonna

◼   ► come but it was just a moment just one

◼   ► song someone in the bathroom having a

◼   ► problem clean with an emergency but it's

◼   ► like it's their way of saying like if

◼   ► you're having an emergency it had better

◼   ► fucking be an emergency right we're

◼   ► gonna send sailors here but so many were

◼   ► walking around the bridge and and you

◼   ► know whenever people are there's not a

◼   ► very small group of us and people are

◼   ► asking and polite questions like what is

◼   ► this knob do and what's the you know

◼   ► what are what's this knob do like

◼   ► nobody's got nobody knows what to say to

◼   ► a sea captain and so so I said what's

◼   ► the weirdest thing you've ever seen come

◼   ► out of the sea and he says I saw sunfish

◼   ► which is an enormous fish are perfectly

◼   ► round fish that floats on the top of the

◼   ► floats on the surface of the sea and

◼   ► they're very rare nobody ever sees them

◼   ► wow I saw one and I didn't know what it

◼   ► was this is not a cryptozoological thing

◼   ► this is like that this has been

◼   ► legitimated by schools and stuff so he

◼   ► has seen one and it is this is guys

◼   ► spent 50 years on the sea or ever since

◼   ► I've seen a sunfish and I didn't know

◼   ► what it was a freak me out because its

◼   ► enormous right it's the size of a

◼   ► trampoline or something right and then

◼   ► he said I saw second one and I knew what

◼   ► it was by that point and I marveled at

◼   ► it was like okay weird creature of the

◼   ► deep and then I said I mean all these

◼   ► years staring out of the sea

◼   ► have you ever seen UFOs

◼   ► just just like that without any kind of

◼   ► like just I was just like all right sci

◼   ► fi star trek captain let's get down to

◼   ► the nitty-gritty you are standing on

◼   ► this bridge staring out at the open sea

◼   ► for years at a time

◼   ► let's hear UFO shit and at that moment

◼   ► all of his crew like all the junior

◼   ► officers were but they all stare at the

◼   ► shoes I was like oh the captain says

◼   ► I've seen lights over the Bahamas that

◼   ► behaved unlike a ship or plane

◼   ► mmm unexplained lights over the Bahamas

◼   ► you must when you're in like coming up

◼   ► in in whatever the Navy is in Canada you

◼   ► you must see all you must have so many

◼   ► hours you spend visually identifying

◼   ► what something is or what something

◼   ► could be you must get really good at

◼   ► that over its all you do I mean there

◼   ► were there were guys you would know you

◼   ► would know it would be like all day long

◼   ► you're inspecting hot dogs and selling

◼   ► there's a poodle there and you go I

◼   ► definitely know that this does not

◼   ► belong here

◼   ► yeah these guys are standing on this up

◼   ► with this like 200 degree view looking

◼   ► out onto a perfectly flat ocean and you

◼   ► can see to the horizon in every

◼   ► direction and that's all they do they

◼   ► just sit there and stare out and

◼   ► everyone smile they raise some

◼   ► binoculars to their eyes and they look

◼   ► out and see I don't know what flotsam

◼   ► jetsam huh

◼   ► and so when a sea captain tells me

◼   ► unexplained lights over the Bahamas and

◼   ► he says unlike a ship or a plane so that

◼   ► implies that they're kinda down in the

◼   ► ship area but they're not acting like a

◼   ► ship was like okay cat okay see Captain

◼   ► that's a good story and then I said

◼   ► what's the taller I said Jesse a rogue

◼   ► wave and he said I've talked two

◼   ► captains that have encountered rogue

◼   ► waves but I've never seen one so that

◼   ► was interesting that's in a way out of

◼   ► nowhere that's probably high massive

◼   ► wave out of nowhere just sitting on a

◼   ► calm sea and then all of a sudden whoa

◼   ► super wave and the last question he said

◼   ► was what's that what's the tallest see

◼   ► you ever saw and he said I was

◼   ► captaining a freighter I was Captain

◼   ► afraid or out of newfoundland i love the

◼   ► story already and he said I was south of

◼   ► Greenland

◼   ► during the perfect storm the outer most

◼   ► famous one for the movie the famous

◼   ► perfect storm and he said the bridge on

◼   ► that ship was 50 feet off the sea and he

◼   ► said I had to lean forward and look out

◼   ► look up out the window to see the crests

◼   ► of the waves my god I was like that's a

◼   ► good story sea captain I'm I'm really

◼   ► warming up to you i want to sit here on

◼   ► the bridge and ask you more questions

◼   ► but then they show up they shuffled this

◼   ► away

◼   ► shuffle shuffle the rest of us away but

◼   ► we'll wait and stayed behind to talk

◼   ► about the left

◼   ► I i stayed in the door to watch their

◼   ► exchange and the captain was like it was

◼   ► like to be in stand by me when he was

◼   ► just super fan i love that it was like

◼   ► and was like well you know it's been 30

◼   ► years since stand by me and they both

◼   ► marvel that bad

◼   ► well says he's gracious guy though I can

◼   ► be he handles the situation situation

◼   ► like that well she is amazing that such

◼   ► any such as a good fellow

◼   ► yeah so anyway that was very interesting

◼   ► but it can friend that you know what we

◼   ► were in the Bermuda Triangle while we

◼   ► were having this conversation that's not

◼   ► smart

◼   ► we were sailing through the Bermuda

◼   ► Triangle while I conjured up a alien

◼   ► stories from the sea captain and I swear

◼   ► all of his staff got really

◼   ► uncomfortable we start talking about

◼   ► UFOs what do you think that is I don't

◼   ► know maybe maybe the sea captain isn't

◼   ► supposed to be

◼   ► he's not he's not supposed to let there

◼   ► be anything that he doesn't control i

◼   ► can think of a lot of release a handful

◼   ► of reasons I mean what with other first

◼   ► reason if this is a movie was that it

◼   ► was something everybody saw and agreed

◼   ► with and it was a known thing that

◼   ► everybody lots of people had seen and

◼   ► you don't talk about cuz of America then

◼   ► the other one would be and we're pretty

◼   ► sure you didn't really see that and he

◼   ► keeps talking about a lot haha that's

◼   ► the kind of thing where somebody

◼   ► somebody somebody calls the Delaware

◼   ► boats to you know you know say yeah yeah

◼   ► yeah well I didn't get the sense that

◼   ► they were uncomfortable like here he

◼   ► goes again it was a night just like that

◼   ► huh but i do feel like they're there

◼   ► might be some America of the sea like

◼   ► first rule of

◼   ► be captaining is don't talk about see

◼   ► captaining where you're like yeah there

◼   ► are fucking aliens living under the

◼   ► ocean behind train hard to train if that

◼   ► were actually the rules of sea captain

◼   ► club haha no you just what you walk

◼   ► around behind another sea captain and he

◼   ► tells you nothing who you follow him for

◼   ► long enough so you get you get even

◼   ► realize that you guys that he was you

◼   ► the whole time

◼   ► ok because coming from inside the

◼   ► captain 00

◼   ► welcome back did you get to go to that

◼   ► weird island on haiti where the person

◼   ► got lost did you go to that we didn't go

◼   ► to Haiti this time it was a it was there

◼   ► was it was afraid little I i stayed off

◼   ► the st. Thomas because i had had a bad

◼   ► experience last time i went to st.

◼   ► Thomas not a there was nothing terrible

◼   ► about it i just had an enjoyable time

◼   ► uh-huh but I did go to st. Maarten which

◼   ► aisle which I like a lot and I had a

◼   ► very nice time in st. Maarten although

◼   ► my daughter barf

◼   ► wait a minute you brought your family oh

◼   ► absolutely haha the whole gang

◼   ► I I said part of your own merit of the

◼   ► seeds you never bring your family again

◼   ► well you know I i have my room which is

◼   ► provided for me by the choco cruise

◼   ► where I their death in steerage

◼   ► where is much more than they all have

◼   ► cabins right no kinds for normal people

◼   ► are normal you bring the entire

◼   ► complement of women in your life i did I

◼   ► got their break every woman i could

◼   ► think of all thrilled

◼   ► let's see there were 12 345 whoa five

◼   ► family ladies I didn't bring every woman

◼   ► i could think of that would be a hell of

◼   ► a weird cruise but I that spreads the

◼   ► stuff of nightmares look oh my god every

◼   ► single it says it's a bespoke cruise

◼   ► where every single person on there is a

◼   ► woman that you've wronged

◼   ► yeah right i mean i-i depending if there

◼   ► was a code of conduct that everybody had

◼   ► to agree to before we got on the boat

◼   ► maybe it could be fun cruise but if I

◼   ► but I get the feeling knowing the people

◼   ► that I've known they would all agree to

◼   ► the code of conduct with no intention of

◼   ► polling it absolutely not i would not

◼   ► sure and then we can you imagine the

◼   ► kind of breakout receptions that they're

◼   ► having it could be regional it could be

◼   ► a certain time

◼   ► I'm it could be a certain industry there

◼   ► there might just be people that you know

◼   ► work to pursue can they would have a

◼   ► meeting over here you know well I mean

◼   ► uh Lido deck on the leader or the ones

◼   ► that would bump into each other on the

◼   ► deck and go oh my god you look exactly

◼   ► like me what does that say oh my god

◼   ► he'd be like no no totally coincidence

◼   ► have the doc martin breakout room

◼   ► everybody free playing games in the

◼   ► basement when maybe look and they all

◼   ► have roadrunner tattoos

◼   ► what if he made you what

◼   ► oh god that we sell off so yeah that was

◼   ► fun and you know end of the family uh

◼   ► the family there were enough family

◼   ► members that they could entertain

◼   ► themselves and my daughter was old

◼   ► enough to go to the what she called be

◼   ► it was the preschool right they have a

◼   ► day of daycare preschool fun place for

◼   ► kids which which she mispronounced as

◼   ► the Aqua nuts who she was like I'm an

◼   ► Aquanaut take me to the Aqua nuts i was

◼   ► like aqua nuts that skeezy is exactly

◼   ► right and that's when our podcast turned

◼   ► into cute things the kids say about the

◼   ► soft-serve machine she ever discover

◼   ► that she knew all about it she knew

◼   ► about it long before we got on the boat

◼   ► was destination for us it was for me

◼   ► last year the up to get soft serve any

◼   ► time you feel like it but i only went

◼   ► there once this time I never want to

◼   ► johnny rockets a single time

◼   ► what I basically just sat on the sand on

◼   ► my balcony and calculated trajectories

◼   ► for 12-pound cannonballs for everything

◼   ► that we passed I was like can I hit that

◼   ► with the 12-pound cannonball could I hit

◼   ► that with a 12-pound cannonball I spent

◼   ► a lot of time doing that mhm uh but uh

◼   ► but yeah I was it was a you know next

◼   ► year I i want to turn this into an

◼   ► advertisement an unpaid advertisement i

◼   ► might add for the Joe Cruz but next year

◼   ► were where to buy out taking over an

◼   ► entire boat uh-huh and leaving from San

◼   ► Diego

◼   ► uh-huh and so it's gonna be bananas

◼   ► it's already bananas and so it's really

◼   ► it's actually a really good idea

◼   ► yeah it's it's gonna be it's gonna be

◼   ► totally crazy and we have discussed at

◼   ► length different stratagems to prohibit

◼   ► sea monkeys from turning it into a

◼   ► clothing-optional cruise because I know

◼   ► they're at least a hundred fifty of them

◼   ► that would take off all their clothes

◼   ► the moment they got on the boat we think

◼   ► so

◼   ► oh yeah well it's part of the you know

◼   ► it's part of the sex positivity of of

◼   ► the overarching doctrine of tourism

◼   ► which says hey you know like what's the

◼   ► matter why don't body shame me I want to

◼   ► be naked right now with this door she's

◼   ► my flip-flops the worst shoe of all and

◼   ► so I so I absolutely as soon as it was

◼   ► as soon as we even started talking two

◼   ► years ago about taking over whole boat I

◼   ► was like fucking nerd sex cruise

◼   ► watch out and so then we started all

◼   ► talking about it like what are we gonna

◼   ► do like is if this just turns into a

◼   ► total Pig pile right like a black guys

◼   ► sexperiment I'd be like how's that going

◼   ► to go over their kids on the boat I'm

◼   ► not sure that I want to go every night

◼   ► like there's a game room but what if

◼   ► there was one thing everybody was naked

◼   ► in the game taking 20-sided die up one

◼   ► another

◼   ► no I haven't done shower yeah i know but

◼   ► i think we've got I think we have we've

◼   ► covered that now we've discussed it sort

◼   ► of hope someone openly with everybody

◼   ► and said like it's family cruise you be

◼   ► making in your room but you always could

◼   ► have done that family cruise i bring my

◼   ► family as previously noted i'm not sure

◼   ► that makes it a family curse

◼   ► ah-ah-ah-choo call family family and

◼   ► that's a terrible word that gets used to

◼   ► mean too many different things by

◼   ► terrible people right

◼   ► I I you could bring kids on that I don't

◼   ► know if it's the best thing but you know

◼   ► and it's interesting because what that

◼   ► cruise seems to have become over the

◼   ► years is very much its own thing to wear

◼   ► it seems like an actual also credit

◼   ► folks who run it like you know

◼   ► especially with Paul goes through with

◼   ► the work that he does on that I mean I

◼   ► know he's not the only one there's a

◼   ► whole staff but I mean like my god it's

◼   ► just a huge amount of work to make

◼   ► everybody's happy as they can be made is

◼   ► staggering but it really

◼   ► seems like it's become something how do

◼   ► I put this in a nice way it's it's

◼   ► definitely still the Joker cruise right

◼   ► but it's kind of it's really about the

◼   ► folks who go on it now and Johnson

◼   ► doesn't really need to be there for it

◼   ► to be the Joe Cruz I've been saying for

◼   ► a few years now that the final the final

◼   ► iteration of this the final form he will

◼   ► who of the joco crews will be a where

◼   ► Jonathan has become a colonel sanders

◼   ► where he's he's just good he's gone into

◼   ► the illustration of himself

◼   ► I get it he's just a hologram he can't

◼   ► you know you can't wait but you could

◼   ► hire any a competent professional actor

◼   ► singer to have to be Jonathan could just

◼   ► be a guy comes around and seems pretty

◼   ► nervous you're not sure why yet do you

◼   ► remember in the late seventies early

◼   ► eighties when Ronald McDonald suddenly

◼   ► was a woman or look like a woman I've

◼   ► seen the hot japanese version a hot

◼   ► female japanese version of ronald

◼   ► mcdonald I don't remember is it like is

◼   ► it like mr. noodle where suddenly was

◼   ► christened channel with our I'm not sure

◼   ► I get that reference value and

◼   ► assessment street huh well of course I

◼   ► did Sesame Street was mr. noodle off the

◼   ► love of Christ this little late period

◼   ► inside its insight i mean with your

◼   ► child John inside of Elmo's World all

◼   ► segments where I think that was

◼   ► initially that nice guy from even shady

◼   ► past few years ago and then it was Bob

◼   ► Miller one I forget who came first

◼   ► builder when the wonderful talented you

◼   ► know actor and mine guy and then some

◼   ► point they brought in a minute miss

◼   ► noodle arm is noodle which is a

◼   ► Christian channel with the the wonderful

◼   ► actress and singer mr. noodle mr. noodle

◼   ► his problem he's having problems you

◼   ► never you never saw mr. noodle you are

◼   ► shooting can word confetti out of a

◼   ► cannon at me right now I have no idea

◼   ► what any of those words mean I'd

◼   ► recognize them as English birds really

◼   ► up from before my daughter was born I

◼   ► had one exposure to Elmo mhm and I was

◼   ► like no no no

◼   ► well he's pretty cute well but this is

◼   ► about that i'm basing all this on one

◼   ► exposure right little kids are really ok

◼   ► alright because i have memories a minute

◼   ► we were not a giant Elmo house

◼   ► okay you kids story you've seen on the

◼   ► show right

◼   ► I know what an elmo and he basically at

◼   ► the end he sings us and he sings a song

◼   ► about whatever the topic was and he

◼   ► always thinks it to the tune of jingle

◼   ► bells

◼   ► so you guys jacket jacket jacket jacket

◼   ► jacket jacket or like you know whatever

◼   ► she wants shoebox shoebox whatever is he

◼   ► sings this little song i do not find

◼   ► this cute i'm gonna keep are you know

◼   ► what nevermind you don't get out go

◼   ► ahead

◼   ► ok you know a before my dad's family has

◼   ► a little free penis

◼   ► no not that I've seen I haven't seen

◼   ► that episode that might be one of the

◼   ► Lost episodes

◼   ► never mind that you don't deserve this

◼   ► sweet story but because we've seen so

◼   ► many Elmo's and we always sing the

◼   ► jingle bells song with my daughter I saw

◼   ► something red she would point to it and

◼   ► say haha

◼   ► and that's how my daughter said read

◼   ► what she said haha tdawg models it was

◼   ► really cute

◼   ► also another key point to describe

◼   ► something as little she got a cute is

◼   ► that that it's cute we're big was ok

◼   ► what's big oh sure that any kids are

◼   ► awesome huh

◼   ► so mr. noodle 10 i have kept Elmo as I

◼   ► have kept Dora told me you always

◼   ► correct you chose correctly there my

◼   ► friend

◼   ► yeah well but at but Elmo to like I love

◼   ► elmo and Dora together into a category

◼   ► of thing that I never let pass the

◼   ► threshold and so I have no I have no

◼   ► idea what mr. noodle is oh I do not know

◼   ► the name of Nora's little monkey friend

◼   ► there Dora or whatever and though their

◼   ► little whiny voices and they're

◼   ► massively pedantic version of what a of

◼   ► like how to communicate with kids it's

◼   ► excruciating i do not have it in and now

◼   ► you know that I came downstairs this

◼   ► morning

◼   ► oh my God we're turning into a fucking

◼   ► dad podcast now our dad our dad jokes

◼   ► have been getting worse and worse at

◼   ► least mine have but now we're talking

◼   ► about our kids at that late but I came

◼   ► downstairs this morning and she was

◼   ► sitting at the table all by herself

◼   ► reading aloud from her dick and jane

◼   ► book all and I i bought the dick and

◼   ► jane book and said listen to it because

◼   ► there's all these like how to teach your

◼   ► kids to read app or whatever you know

◼   ► and I said I learned to read with Dick

◼   ► and

◼   ► name as my mother and father before me

◼   ► and she will learn to read from Dick and

◼   ► Jane that's nice can monitor dick dick

◼   ► sees spot spot runs go spot go o.o spot

◼   ► spot that's amazing you have read it you

◼   ► years and you still remember so much as

◼   ► a no go as well set up any a setup for

◼   ► the story because i heard this morning I

◼   ► came downstairs and she's sitting there

◼   ► all by herself at the table reading

◼   ► aloud from chicken chain and I was like

◼   ► there it is there it is all in a

◼   ► nutshell she'll be fine now she doesn't

◼   ► need anything else

◼   ► uh-huh she's been we've sent around the

◼   ► right path or even told what to read

◼   ► she's already erased from ready go now

◼   ► Dick and Jane is not a nice feeling

◼   ► though that's what I mean the whole

◼   ► reading thing is a nice feeling

◼   ► it's very nice but but so she recognizes

◼   ► what a dora is she knows what an elmo is

◼   ► too she has seen them

◼   ► she's seen them in the wild right you're

◼   ► walking through a you're walking through

◼   ► a target because a target boy daddy

◼   ► needs a spatula who and she goes what

◼   ► you don't get your spatula is a target

◼   ► you said from like that's not where you

◼   ► get spatulas no no I would love to talk

◼   ► about target we I love going to target I

◼   ► you call it charger no I don't call that

◼   ► are Jason's making any to I was that was

◼   ► funny for like an hour

◼   ► it's like your friends mom who always

◼   ► says thank you like stop doing that

◼   ► that's not funny anymore whose friends

◼   ► mom says thank you thank you

◼   ► what does that mean oh it's it's a lying

◼   ► or somebody says oh i don't know i don't

◼   ► really like Kim Kardashian that much and

◼   ► she goes

◼   ► thank you OIC a confirmative thank you

◼   ► right well I think we've talked about

◼   ► this before but that do you remember in

◼   ► the in the mid eighties when all of a

◼   ► sudden everybody was saying yeah it is

◼   ► oh yeah we discuss this i have I still

◼   ► have a lot of these tix I haven't gotten

◼   ► rid of and I don't want to delve into it

◼   ► too far because i still have a lot of

◼   ► terrible ticks that I'm not proud of you

◼   ► mhm mhm like the sniffing like always

◼   ► slipping not always sniffing you're

◼   ► always sniffing your coffee snapping

◼   ► you've done a hundred and ninety

◼   ► episodes of the show and you still don't

◼   ► clear your throat before you pick up the

◼   ► phone

◼   ► uh-huh what would that what would that

◼   ► even entail you don't you're talking

◼   ► about like before you pick up

◼   ► I don't know and honestly don't want to

◼   ► think about it too much I don't know

◼   ► what it would entail

◼   ► I love target i love and especially with

◼   ► the other day we got so much good stuff

◼   ► I can't tell you how much great stuff we

◼   ► got a target have you noticed that

◼   ► target that all the boy clothes and the

◼   ► girl closer lately sequestered from one

◼   ► another you do not want to fucking get

◼   ► me started on this the boy clothes all

◼   ► of cool cars and and rocket ships and

◼   ► skulls and crossbones and the girl

◼   ► closer just like oh no no we walk we

◼   ► walk right past there's no point and

◼   ► here's the other thing like I want to

◼   ► get actually I was gonna get my kid and

◼   ► we so my kid leaves things on the

◼   ► playground she forgets her jackets she

◼   ► forgot jacket jacket jacket you forget

◼   ► your jacket she forgets her water

◼   ► bottles were constantly retweet you know

◼   ► we're working on this right she's great

◼   ► otherwise but so I'm getting more like

◼   ► cheap jackets you know there are like

◼   ► strategy

◼   ► yeah i mean not cheap i mean but you

◼   ► know inexpensive because I figure you

◼   ► know i'm looking for an heirloom jacket

◼   ► and you can you walk into the girls

◼   ► section is like everything's pink la you

◼   ► longer it's all shit it's all you know

◼   ► they have cool belt they have cool belts

◼   ► that are fun if there's some cool

◼   ► underwear but then if you want anything

◼   ► decent you have to go to the boys area

◼   ► because they just assume that every girl

◼   ► is gonna dress like somebody falls down

◼   ► a well and wait to be rescued

◼   ► haha so goddamn annoying and it doesn't

◼   ► go to amazon i say okay I want to get

◼   ► her a new hoodie only together minecraft

◼   ► Cudi I want to get her a hoodie from the

◼   ► cat game i wanna get our machine hoodie

◼   ► I go and I do a search you don't you see

◼   ► under clothes you see men's clothes you

◼   ► see women's clothes and you see boys

◼   ► clothes unless you search for something

◼   ► really insipid and fucking pink and then

◼   ► you get TT he down here there's girls

◼   ► clouds got a ruffle and it's part of all

◼   ► people poop

◼   ► hehe my kids that dress i mean when she

◼   ► dresses like the other day like to go to

◼   ► target she wears like horizontal striped

◼   ► leggings with a foot if really

◼   ► ridiculously Felix loofah skirt and a

◼   ► captain america shirt and a headband

◼   ► with yours

◼   ► that's how my daughter dresses she rose

◼   ► whatever the fuck she feels like and

◼   ► it's unerringly hilarious but she rarely

◼   ► does is go I want to look like somebody

◼   ► from frozen

◼   ► it's just it's so i'm not against frozen

◼   ► it's just that I'm so tired of that

◼   ► anyway sorry Donald dad of a daughter's

◼   ► name that it you won't appreciate until

◼   ► you're there let alone let alone go to

◼   ► target to try to find a ray character

◼   ► but you cannot buy a whole big package

◼   ► Star Wars boys you can get three

◼   ► from fucking stormtroopers there's no

◼   ► ray well that that seems like that seem

◼   ► like a truly a cultural moment I was

◼   ► like oh we didn't want we didn't want to

◼   ► put rate characters out there cuz we

◼   ► don't want to spoil the surprise well

◼   ► the movie that the one the star of the

◼   ► movie is in the set now there's honestly

◼   ► a hilarious set of force awakens

◼   ► probably 12 inch size characters and

◼   ► it's got Finn it's got po it's got a

◼   ► console is on it's got a stormtrooper

◼   ► and it's got another storm trooper right

◼   ► oh yeah but there's no running there you

◼   ► know i have had an interesting insights

◼   ► to anonymous stormtroopers in delray

◼   ► leaving that aside which is which is

◼   ► incredible array is one of my favorite

◼   ► characters a contemporary cinema and I

◼   ► you know we're physically she perfectly

◼   ► embodies what that movie needed to be

◼   ► and it would not have been the same

◼   ► without her

◼   ► yep yeah she's the fan on the screen and

◼   ► it was perfect but i had had an

◼   ► interesting insight you know into the

◼   ► film you know III I hesitated to

◼   ► criticize the star wars movie at all

◼   ► because you know as much as I like it's

◼   ► like good reasons to not do that

◼   ► yeah as much as I like getting letters I

◼   ► i did not want to get any letters about

◼   ► this but i but I was this this was one

◼   ► of those things as i was walking I was

◼   ► walking along and all of a sudden like

◼   ► an acorn fell on my head and I said wait

◼   ► a minute why didn't they do it that way

◼   ► you know that feeling

◼   ► who when you're like we have sure why

◼   ► didn't they do it that way i feel that

◼   ► way about lots of things what was in

◼   ► this case in this case the hand solo son

◼   ► yeah right yeah not a fan whose name is

◼   ► a paco rabanne or whatever Allah Alonso

◼   ► it's funnier if I don't laugh but that's

◼   ► the perfect alonzo morningstar which is

◼   ► your name his name is a rilo kiley yeah

◼   ► friedrich von solution straße it um his

◼   ► first appearance in the film is in his

◼   ► guys right is his guys it's terrible

◼   ► error terrible Darth warmth or yes or be

◼   ► worse mark or whatever and you see him

◼   ► and he appears and you're like okay

◼   ► is the new bad guy who and then as the

◼   ► as the film progresses you see that he

◼   ► is not really in his full he's not fully

◼   ► in his in his he's not and he's not as

◼   ► full pokeyman yet

◼   ► yeah right like when when Darth Vader

◼   ► and the generals the high-ranking

◼   ► soldiers have encounters you see that

◼   ► they are terrified of him who but when

◼   ► they have no even though we were so

◼   ► effective in this movie's you understand

◼   ► that Darth Vader has a boss but still

◼   ► Darth Vader that everybody scared of

◼   ► everybody scared of Darth and you're not

◼   ► sure what his rank is right he's kinda

◼   ► feels like not a row but not but he's

◼   ► he's almost like a consultant like he's

◼   ► been brought in to make sure you rebuild

◼   ► this fucking death star and this is this

◼   ► needs to happen

◼   ► yeah right i mean it and I do not alter

◼   ► it further in in the way in a way that

◼   ► he is like he is he's a mini Emperor

◼   ► right but in the new Star Wars movie The

◼   ► the paco rabanne character does not have

◼   ► very much authority right the general is

◼   ► openly contemptuous of him and he

◼   ► doesn't really have a very good report

◼   ► but he's in this like amazing gas mask

◼   ► costume

◼   ► yeah I like this place so that was cool

◼   ► but then as the as the film unfolds the

◼   ► mask comes off and you see that he's

◼   ► just sort of a callow male model

◼   ► uh-huh it's not I mean it was very clear

◼   ► why Darth Vader wore the mask because he

◼   ► was hideous least disfigure yeah

◼   ► anything before you learned all the you

◼   ► know reckon details of it like you could

◼   ► tell that he was he was he was messed up

◼   ► in a number of ways

◼   ► yeah imagine he needed that to live

◼   ► probably the mask was breathing for him

◼   ► and the stormtroopers wore masks because

◼   ► it wasn't clear whether or not they were

◼   ► robots at first right totally right for

◼   ► the longest time we thought they were

◼   ► robots and then it turned out they were

◼   ► clones

◼   ► I mean they were there they were

◼   ► basically they were they were like nazis

◼   ► in world war two movie

◼   ► yeah just like generic people to be shot

◼   ► but as the film unfolds then the the the

◼   ► paco rabanne character uses his mask

◼   ► less and less until he just seems like a

◼   ► teenager running around very petulant

◼   ► he's always wearing a bandana

◼   ► it's like he just wears when he feels

◼   ► like it and and it's not

◼   ► explain what the purpose of it is except

◼   ► that it's just an affectation it's just

◼   ► like it's just like a have accepted

◼   ► covers his face

◼   ► why didn't they start the movie with him

◼   ► without his mask and that's why nobody

◼   ► respects him yet he's walking around in

◼   ► a cape he's obviously a Jedi but he's it

◼   ► using any single teacher at the very

◼   ► least four cents and if we don't meet me

◼   ► tonight Jennifer sorry I'm sorry I'm

◼   ► sorry I'm sorry I can't believe

◼   ► registered I'm so sorry

◼   ► it's no it's quite all right cutting

◼   ► that out on my own but there's actually

◼   ► you about Star Wars there's a there's a

◼   ► reason that he's there and that's

◼   ► because he has horsepower who write and

◼   ► but the generals are contemptuous of him

◼   ► because he can't quite lift them off the

◼   ► ground and make them choke yet right so

◼   ► so he's it's some kind of thing where he

◼   ► is being groomed by the new emperor

◼   ► right but he's still a kind of a callow

◼   ► teenager and that's why nobody takes him

◼   ► seriously and then over the course of

◼   ► the film we in he inherits the helmet

◼   ► because something I get it right

◼   ► why why do it the the reverse way where

◼   ► we're set up to think like all this guy

◼   ► looks mean he's gonna be mean and then

◼   ► over the course the time were already

◼   ► trying to were already trying to buy the

◼   ► end of the first film we're already in

◼   ► this in this mode of like is he going to

◼   ► be as he savable is he going to be

◼   ► rescuing ball we didn't even set him up

◼   ► as like as like a guy who's bitterness

◼   ► turns him to the dark side increasingly

◼   ► who we already its he's already like oh

◼   ► he doesn't know whether it's bad or not

◼   ► I just feel like come on

◼   ► well I said something a lot of people

◼   ► have said about a lot of things related

◼   ► to star wars that i happen to agree with

◼   ► and we'll make the short because I just

◼   ► I can't handle the email but one of the

◼   ► great things about science something

◼   ► Syracuse and I talked about in terms of

◼   ► like why is how it's like fury fury road

◼   ► in some ways the first Star Wars very

◼   ► little is done to explain what

◼   ► everything means through is so much just

◼   ► pure action and exposition just based on

◼   ► what you're looking at right now that

◼   ► the exposition is that like there's

◼   ► these robots sorry that's just always

◼   ► that's all we have time to explain why

◼   ► there's so much story to get through

◼   ► here right

◼   ► right then like you know and you know

◼   ► there's all kinds of things that people

◼   ► spent years wondering about and so forth

◼   ► but like what you're describing here we

◼   ► didn't understand what Darth Vader was

◼   ► or how he was and we certainly don't

◼   ► understand what the force was other than

◼   ► there was a lot of hand waving about it

◼   ► some kind of cosmic force but we didn't

◼   ► know how powerful Darth Vader could be

◼   ► because we need how he can you know what

◼   ► his weaknesses work for that matter all

◼   ► we saw was that like oh my god you do

◼   ► not want to tangle with this guy is

◼   ► obviously a very scary i mean you can

◼   ► choke you

◼   ► you know right right but like you know

◼   ► the less we knew the more interesting he

◼   ► was one maybe don't I mean do you

◼   ► remember feeling like Darth Vader might

◼   ► have been a robot a magic robot

◼   ► absolutely very special on the first

◼   ► viewing like it seemed it

◼   ► yeah I always assumed the stormtroopers

◼   ► just because of their movements were

◼   ► whatever the galaxy far away version of

◼   ► human was oh you knew that there were

◼   ► humans inside the Stormtrooper right

◼   ► well they didn't move like robots if

◼   ► they want to Telegraph that the robots

◼   ► it seems they would have handled that

◼   ► differently so Cylons were post first

◼   ► Star Wars yes because Cylons were

◼   ► clearly robot sounds were clearly let's

◼   ► say a ripoff of Stormtroopers but that

◼   ► who were definitely robots

◼   ► yeah right and i think i think that i

◼   ► was i was coming at it from more of a

◼   ► like storm troopers were proto Cylons I

◼   ► see because because again what do they

◼   ► need to ask for masks are uncomfortable

◼   ► yeah oh and and it's never it's never

◼   ► specified like to the masks let them see

◼   ► a terminator style are the are the

◼   ► eyepieces giving them additional

◼   ► information we know we didn't know it

◼   ► doesn't let them breathe on foreign

◼   ► planets where there is an oxygen no

◼   ► don't no idea no idea i love target what

◼   ► we end up getting we got a lot of good

◼   ► stuff we've got some great clothes we

◼   ► did something we don't usually do which

◼   ► we got her got some branded franchise

◼   ► clothing for a property that's not even

◼   ► out yet but I'm all I can already tell

◼   ► we're going to like it so because you

◼   ► want to know you want to know what just

◼   ► happened to me

◼   ► no one well I was walking across the

◼   ► room and I accidentally unplugged my

◼   ► headphones

◼   ► ok and when I came back you had

◼   ► completely changed the topic code area

◼   ► all fast that almost never happens like

◼   ► that and I didn't hear the transition

◼   ► right so I was like coming back in plug

◼   ► in my headphones back it's alright says

◼   ► utopia

◼   ► yeah and you were just like anyway just

◼   ► as as if we had been talking about your

◼   ► daughter's clothes the entire time i

◼   ► love target we all kinds of stuff there

◼   ► we can get a spatula got a lot of good

◼   ► stuff what do we get what we can get

◼   ► some clothes for her

◼   ► we got all we got a little letter areum

◼   ► don't you know it's nice to get a target

◼   ► what time do you have a sensitive skin

◼   ► uh I mean it's you know if it doesn't

◼   ► get his feelings hurt like anybody right

◼   ► but I mean your attention but you're

◼   ► essentially a northern European I i know

◼   ► i don't want to say too much here but I

◼   ► i know that you you have to suffer in

◼   ► silence i know for example that your

◼   ► head sometimes is allergic to itself my

◼   ► head and face are both allergic to

◼   ► themselves

◼   ► okay and I cannot abide any kind of real

◼   ► perfume and I cannot use normal soap if

◼   ► I wash my clothes in typical normal

◼   ► laundry detergent i will get an enormous

◼   ► ba complete body heat rash that

◼   ► sometimes swells my skin up so that it

◼   ► is like an inch puffier than it normally

◼   ► is which is that's miserable it is awful

◼   ► it's terrible if somebody else washes my

◼   ► clothes I basically have to wash them

◼   ► again because if I put them on I will

◼   ► get them in everywhere the close touch

◼   ► my skin i will get this awful heat rash

◼   ► that that is like swollen and burns and

◼   ► doesn't go away i have to lay naked on a

◼   ► on a cool sheet and fan myself for the

◼   ► magazine and it is any picture kind of

◼   ► magazine has to be like well like it

◼   ► well now I don't get well anymore

◼   ► I I felt burned bite well yeah but i got

◼   ► it for a while and I was like twelve

◼   ► this is this going to be consistent with

◼   ► horizontal slats are going to get big

◼   ► greasy yeah i'm going to live in a

◼   ► shipping container hooray for me and

◼   ► then after children play into the stairs

◼   ► boob after a while I realized that it

◼   ► was they were just taking pictures of

◼   ► the same house from different angles it

◼   ► see it took me two years to figure that

◼   ► out you know I was a male cyclist door

◼   ► looks familiar that's a really nice deck

◼   ► wait a minute wait a minute why is that

◼   ► child has the same toys what this house

◼   ► as a garage with the same three toys

◼   ► every child in snow

◼   ► thank you there was absolutely no

◼   ► aesthetic variation and after like five

◼   ► is where Connor keeps his ball and this

◼   ► is kind of a little milk a reading nook

◼   ► a reading nook that shaped like the

◼   ► inside of a parachute not in any era are

◼   ► are crying the day and no over here we

◼   ► have our our mud palace and then those

◼   ► are real things that she's a documentary

◼   ► filmmaker and she's kind of videographer

◼   ► used to make apps now he's working on

◼   ► something you can't talk about you can't

◼   ► talk about it and tyler loves his little

◼   ► ball but here's what I get at target

◼   ► which is sheer free sheer free cheer is

◼   ► a laundry and sheer free cheer free has

◼   ► no no chemicals it has no stopping it

◼   ► has chemical don't know

◼   ► yeah I think you're free is just I think

◼   ► so i think a couple of guys go over a

◼   ► barbed-wire fence to the dumpster

◼   ► outside of a little suction facility

◼   ► nice and they get some bags of human fat

◼   ► and then they render it with lie and

◼   ► that is what cheer free is so it doesn't

◼   ► your clothes don't smell like any kind

◼   ► of perfume and your free get some skin

◼   ► in the game

◼   ► yeah it well yeah it doesn't make my it

◼   ► doesn't make my body attack itself

◼   ► interesting and introduces like anything

◼   ► kind of would call an antibody i don't

◼   ► know i think it might be homeopathy John

◼   ► you might be doing homeopathy i might be

◼   ► might take a little bit of human skin to

◼   ► make your skin not be bothered

◼   ► interesting but it's at such a micro

◼   ► dose that it literally can't do anything

◼   ► useful

◼   ► maybe it's micro dosing me with LSD and

◼   ► I'm just don't realize that my skin is

◼   ► so maybe you're in your maybe your

◼   ► friend Dick Cheney's bunker I wow I

◼   ► friends just sparkling to be one

◼   ► no no ever since we mentioned that the

◼   ► last time I asked loss again Fred I've

◼   ► had more Fred Durst mentions in my

◼   ► mentions then I ever wanted and I don't

◼   ► want to think about him I do not want to

◼   ► think about him but so I never know

◼   ► what's going to endure when we say it

◼   ► it's we might say that we may see

◼   ► something wrong like something that's

◼   ► not even correct we might say something

◼   ► I ironically like as a joke and that

◼   ► because what people remember it's a lot

◼   ► of responsibility it is a lot of

◼   ► responsibility to have such well to be

◼   ► fucking head phony award-winning podcast

◼   ► that's true so this keeps you so you eat

◼   ► you had a good experience with this and

◼   ► you can buy a big bottle of it at target

◼   ► and getting to target

◼   ► okay yeah I i went to the dermatologist

◼   ► right I've told you this story and the

◼   ► dermatologist said I don't know what

◼   ► your problem is you're allergic to

◼   ► yourself and I said that's a terrible

◼   ► thing to say to somebody that they're

◼   ► allergic to themselves and he said she's

◼   ► right before you sent someone to the

◼   ► fucking Mayo Clinic you don't just trust

◼   ► somebody other office with stuff like

◼   ► that yeah I don't want to be a boy in

◼   ► the bubble and he was like now you're

◼   ► just allergic to your ears skin oil i

◼   ► was like a skin oil he was like yeah you

◼   ► can't you know you have to just you

◼   ► can't just let it sit on your skin

◼   ► because it will just your body your body

◼   ► will go after it

◼   ► ah exchanged our story checks out come

◼   ► on give me something you know me

◼   ► something to write on man put your tap

◼   ► tap tap tap it a little so yeah so I go

◼   ► to target for that and that's great and

◼   ► specialist

◼   ► yeah what else did we get we were gonna

◼   ► get bowls i didn't like the bowls

◼   ► oh don't like their blah there's a lot

◼   ► of things we didn't buy their but we've

◼   ► never spent like four hundred dollars

◼   ► that we got a lot of stuff i go up and

◼   ► down the aisles you know did you know

◼   ► this about me that when I go into a

◼   ► store i have to go up and down every

◼   ► aisle every time it's not it's not it

◼   ► doesn't it's not OCD it

◼   ► no certainly not no no no no you're

◼   ► organized you got it you got away you

◼   ► like to do things i want to walk down

◼   ► every aisle and see what's there

◼   ► how are you how are you going to how we

◼   ► gonna live with yourself if you go out

◼   ► of the store you didn't walk down the

◼   ► one I'll that had something who write so

◼   ► when I go to costco whatever I go to

◼   ► costco what's with the anyone who knows

◼   ► me there like please don't go up and

◼   ► down every aisle we're just here for the

◼   ► Trista 75-pound bag of peanut brittle

◼   ► especially accounting for how tall their

◼   ► shelves are it's one thing to just look

◼   ► at eye level but if you look at

◼   ► everything on the shelves at costco and

◼   ► account for the people who get the free

◼   ► samples

◼   ► that's gonna be a long day my friend

◼   ► what is it's always a long day you go in

◼   ► there and you're like do I need 47

◼   ► sharpies

◼   ► think about it think about it mm no do I

◼   ► need what how much do we really need in

◼   ► life

◼   ► well it's true but every every once in a

◼   ► while I was what was the last thing I

◼   ► went in there I thought I needed

◼   ► ah it was some kind of like always maybe

◼   ► one of those ladders that folds into a

◼   ► scaffold that folds into a like an

◼   ► origami ladder origami a ladder as seen

◼   ► on TV

◼   ► yeah and those are neat i was like maybe

◼   ► i need that or maybe i need one of those

◼   ► juicers that goes it's 5,000 rpm the

◼   ► turns a little turn bricks into a juice

◼   ► but and it ends up i get the same thing

◼   ► I get you know get spaghetti sauce and I

◼   ► get peanut brittle and then I'm out of

◼   ► there but i still have to go down every

◼   ► aisle don't have to but I mean right

◼   ► mm it's like you have to if I go in and

◼   ► somebody's like you are forbidden from

◼   ► going up and down every aisle I i can I

◼   ► can hang with that if I'm if I'm

◼   ► expressly forbidden i can i can go all

◼   ► right actually seafood and automotive

◼   ► and drinks and deli

◼   ► yep garden supplies oh yeah furniture

◼   ► for sure

◼   ► uh-huh i'll definitely office supplies

◼   ► and safe sorry yeah but socks and and

◼   ► bedding with the middle you got that big

◼   ► middle part like the middle part you

◼   ► know Scott has a lot of like for your

◼   ► staple type clothes they got to get

◼   ► pretty good socks again pretty good

◼   ► undershirts all my underwear was from

◼   ► costco until very recently when I gotta

◼   ► I gotta start getting underwear from

◼   ► this fancy place

◼   ► oh I get it I get internet underwear but

◼   ► Abbott is also the I heard the workout

◼   ► clothes I know how you love to work out

◼   ► there let's get one up close to get they

◼   ► probably have BMW pants and get there

◼   ► let me tell you about the underwear I'm

◼   ► wearing right now

◼   ► thank you it is lined are not lined it's

◼   ► knitted with microfibers of silver it so

◼   ► people can steal your identity

◼   ► no no silver is anti bacterial or anti

◼   ► like silver scares all the the what the

◼   ► living a biome the biome yeah it KITT

◼   ► scares the biomes and they get out of

◼   ► your underwear

◼   ► so the underwear is like a shirt silver

◼   ► I don't want to imply don't want to say

◼   ► it's impregnated with silver now that's

◼   ► that's all thinking but silver is shot

◼   ► three shot through with silver there you

◼   ► go shop through with silver so that and

◼   ► it feels just like normal underwear huh

◼   ► but it created your little secret it

◼   ► creates an inhospitable environment for

◼   ► all the things that might get in your

◼   ► underwear

◼   ► I don't get in there ok so this also i

◼   ► mean let's be honest that you got things

◼   ► like issues of contagion and older but

◼   ► also you keep your junk from becoming

◼   ► allergic to itself but with the silver

◼   ► I'm up I'm waiting I'm waiting to see if

◼   ► that's true but it but it feels like an

◼   ► act it's an extra layer of protection

◼   ► and emits a little secret like I'm

◼   ► wearing silver underwear

◼   ► yeah right and they're very comfortable

◼   ► i don't and and you know and maybe they

◼   ► protect my my nether regions from

◼   ► harmful rays are you worried about that

◼   ► and I'm worried about that are praised I

◼   ► I think about that I think about that

◼   ► yeah i'm very interested what can i say

◼   ► about this dad starts and start track

◼   ► are worried about harmful rays get a

◼   ► full rate all

◼   ► Oh John dad you get Joe that's awfully

◼   ► good thing all my goodness thanks I now

◼   ► everyone will be laugh-in yeah at that

◼   ► lay a wreath on that joke I solo most I

◼   ► lead f MA

◼   ► more like millennial Falcon berg

◼   ► millennial for work I knew that if I

◼   ► released the released the a joke Sam you

◼   ► okay with just come pouring out like a

◼   ► like a burst water balloon become more

◼   ► powerful than you can imagine

◼   ► so you know

◼   ► I don't know what to say exactly about

◼   ► this but I'm mm what's happening

◼   ► well I'm acquainted with someone who's a

◼   ► had and having problems with things like

◼   ► worrying about Ray's oh I'm trying to

◼   ► learn more about it than just haha

◼   ► chemtrails right and it's it's super

◼   ► tough and super interesting there are a

◼   ► lot of raised well but it's also like

◼   ► I'm trying to fly I can do this that's

◼   ► enough said about that except to say

◼   ► that it is very interesting very

◼   ► complicated i actually I came across an

◼   ► interesting thing on the reddit or

◼   ► somebody said you know you think about

◼   ► what people talk about especially what

◼   ► has come to but some people have called

◼   ► paranoid schizophrenia but some kind of

◼   ► like an effective thing but you know

◼   ► your things like people saying they

◼   ► think their voices right they think the

◼   ► queen is talking to them that they hear

◼   ► voices on the radio

◼   ► addressing them there are teams you know

◼   ► the there are actually people who do

◼   ► line hats with aluminum foil because

◼   ► they don't want thoughts and say its

◼   ► order to remove all these things that

◼   ► the sad part of this is the jokes that

◼   ► we make about this is that the horrible

◼   ► truth is that there are people that like

◼   ► believe that more than anything they

◼   ► believe in the entire world right and it

◼   ► is really interesting but there was i

◼   ► just i have a piece and i have read the

◼   ► whole thing yet but somebody's asking

◼   ► basically

◼   ► basically

◼   ► with what we now call schizophrenia with

◼   ► those particular symptoms

◼   ► what did people imagined before the age

◼   ► of electricity like you're saying

◼   ► there's so much thought now about like

◼   ► there are raised that are doing this

◼   ► there are ways of making you sexy see

◼   ► certain images insert and remove

◼   ► thoughts like the all lot of those in rh

◼   ► come down to electricity

◼   ► you know what I mean yeah like what

◼   ► people uh if you like hallucinate before

◼   ► we had electricity

◼   ► well you know they're spiritualism was a

◼   ► big was a big thing right there is a

◼   ► part of the parent schizophrenia is this

◼   ► i don't even know that's exactly the

◼   ► correct term forgive me I don't be i'm

◼   ► really trying not to be insensitive

◼   ► about this cuz you know it's it's close

◼   ► to home but I it's interesting because I

◼   ► a lot of it does involve the parent part

◼   ► of the schizophrenia is that there there

◼   ► it's this very very strong belief

◼   ► essentially that somebody's fucking with

◼   ► you right and that the conflict the

◼   ► complexity of your the way your mind is

◼   ► working is because something is

◼   ► happening

◼   ► well sure but wouldn't that just be

◼   ► Damon's right i mean before before it

◼   ► was the man like you bewitched or

◼   ► something yeah right i mean i don't

◼   ► think that there's anything specific to

◼   ► it being like other humans who are

◼   ► messing with you except that in the

◼   ► modern age that seems a lot more

◼   ► plausible been then

◼   ► Damon's right over people using like the

◼   ► sorcery right I guess sorcery would

◼   ► probably okay yeah that checks out

◼   ► Jack's out and a part of it also then is

◼   ► that I think the part that makes this so

◼   ► interesting scary is like the part of it

◼   ► is that it involves somebody who has

◼   ► malicious like ill will for you and is

◼   ► acting upon a person or a group is

◼   ► acting upon this with you know there

◼   ► they are after you and they are

◼   ► organized right and that they're doing

◼   ► it remotely and that they're doing it

◼   ► through some means of obfuscation which

◼   ► obfuscation is part of the very thing

◼   ► that is messing with you so I mean like

◼   ► when you I know maybe I'm being precious

◼   ► about but that's super interesting you

◼   ► break that down into parts can you

◼   ► imagine how excruciating that must be

◼   ► well it's all I believe that more than

◼   ► you believe anything in the world but

◼   ► it's the core of the protocols of the

◼   ► Elders of Zion I mean people have always

◼   ► attributed that kind

◼   ► of a malicious intent to the Jews or two

◼   ► I mean the Jews but and that's you know

◼   ► that was a convenient the Jews were

◼   ► convenient scapegoat for all that kind

◼   ► of paranoia for everyone in Europe for

◼   ► years and years and years decades

◼   ► hundreds of years so and you still see

◼   ► you still see paranoiacs everywhere

◼   ► attributing all that mind control to the

◼   ► bilderberg group or whatever

◼   ► yeah yeah wonder how who oh it was so

◼   ► would you put chem trails in that in a

◼   ► pile in the reckoning

◼   ► I mean the reason that I feel chemtrails

◼   ► is so remarkable is that it

◼   ► it's it seems much more like one of

◼   ► those conspiracies that isn't founded in

◼   ► an actual mental illness but is founded

◼   ► in the you know the pervasive American

◼   ► tendency that a tendency that the most

◼   ► ignorant people are the ones that are

◼   ► most certain about their beliefs right

◼   ► so the people all across the country are

◼   ► absolutely sure that Obama is trying to

◼   ► take their guns or whatever the fuck

◼   ► their current thing is right and

◼   ► chemtrails are just a part of that which

◼   ► is like they're so profoundly ignorant

◼   ► of how things work and so supremely

◼   ► confident that their interpretation or

◼   ► the interpretation of the radio a shock

◼   ► jock that they listen to you see this

◼   ► partly as somebody who's a little bit

◼   ► knowledgeable about aircraft well and

◼   ► how this guy works and how governments

◼   ► work and happy that you don't like like

◼   ► the have you ever worked with government

◼   ► you know the motivation

◼   ► what would be required to have chem

◼   ► trails be a project as big as they say

◼   ► and to keep it all a secret it's just

◼   ► hilarious and what is the benefit

◼   ► I mean what would the benefit of

◼   ► mind-control Pete there's so much mind

◼   ► control already that's just like right

◼   ► and you're just holding it in your hand

◼   ► you're soaking in it right but it's

◼   ► evident it's right in front of you

◼   ► there's no nobody's trying to do it in

◼   ► secret and there's no and nobody's

◼   ► controlling it like every at

◼   ► attempt that they make to exert some

◼   ► sort of i mean i do believe that it is

◼   ► plausible

◼   ► I believe that the narrative that the

◼   ► that the that there is some connection

◼   ► between drugs and guns and inner-city

◼   ► violence that feels like it was seeded

◼   ► by you know seated in some ways

◼   ► unintentionally the results were

◼   ► unintentional in enough to the scale

◼   ► that they were but like the way that the

◼   ► CIA was drug running and paying for

◼   ► Nicaragua and giving getting black

◼   ► plates

◼   ► well and i think is aids-like and

◼   ► introducing crack as like the dudes like

◼   ► don't disposable e directly to play

◼   ► crack into ghettos idols reasons I don't

◼   ► think they're clever enough i don't

◼   ► think anyone at the CIA is clever clever

◼   ► enough to orchestrate it but I to

◼   ► orchestrate what happened but I do but

◼   ► there's enough stuff that has been

◼   ► documented and the and that narrative of

◼   ► like black power was real it was having

◼   ► a transformative effect and then it was

◼   ► completely like wiped off the face of

◼   ► the earth by this seemingly like like

◼   ► blood wave of drugs that came into the

◼   ► inner cities and the CIA is meanwhile

◼   ► dealing drugs to fund their covert

◼   ► operations just like there's just too

◼   ► much going on there to dismiss it

◼   ► wholeheartedly and here's here's why I

◼   ► think is that I mean there was a time I

◼   ► guess when there were a lot of rumors

◼   ► and you know and understand like the

◼   ► what we knew about what the CIA did

◼   ► before the nineteen seventies was it was

◼   ► more like what we know the NSA does now

◼   ► which is we assume everything but who

◼   ► knows but you know it was it will be

◼   ► years before we learn a lot about what

◼   ► the CI had done years earlier so for

◼   ► example like let's say you heard a rumor

◼   ► about the extent to which the CIA wanted

◼   ► to disrupt humiliate and potentially

◼   ► kill Fidel Castro and it's if you heard

◼   ► you would hear that you might have heard

◼   ► these stories that are so outlandish

◼   ► never going to make his beer trying

◼   ► make his beard fallout yeah like but the

◼   ► thing is that apparently they did huh

◼   ► yeah right i mean this is true didn't

◼   ► like trying to poison his food they're

◼   ► all these different kinds of things

◼   ► aren't shit man look what happened with

◼   ► that with all the guys in people in

◼   ► Russia being poisoned you know like that

◼   ► guy who was basically poisoned by Putin

◼   ► it's like well it doesn't take that many

◼   ► stories where you go up geez like this

◼   ► really is like three days of the Condor

◼   ► it's really this is bad but all of those

◼   ► things you can see you can picture a guy

◼   ► sitting in his desk with a mustache and

◼   ► he's like he's got an assignment he's on

◼   ► assignment because i'm fairly specific

◼   ► assignment to like disrupt with pride

◼   ► bet for a long time a lot of CIA was

◼   ► causing chaos disrupt disruption and

◼   ► lack of trust in a given government

◼   ► yeah right before you say like we're

◼   ► gonna send in troops a lot of it might

◼   ► have been like something as simple as

◼   ► make the electricity go off a lot so

◼   ► people don't trust the government it

◼   ► would be that's an operational thing I

◼   ► could see people doing at ground level

◼   ► except you can picture you can picture

◼   ► five people in a in a meeting room where

◼   ► they closed the door and goes and then

◼   ► they totally flip some switch and the

◼   ► the cone of silence comes down and

◼   ► they're like okay here's what we're

◼   ► going to do but you can't picture five

◼   ► people in a room imagining the scope of

◼   ► we're going to we're going to turn

◼   ► colombian cocaine into a weapon to

◼   ► destabilize the Black Power movement

◼   ► it's just too it's too

◼   ► there there are too many things that

◼   ► have to happen that where the logical

◼   ► explanation is much it is much simpler

◼   ► to say simpler and more cost effective

◼   ► and more secretive way to do it that

◼   ► didn't require all of those contortions

◼   ► is is seeding contrails with chemicals

◼   ► the best way to do whatever it is you

◼   ► think these people are trying to

◼   ► accomplish is that the most effective

◼   ► way to do that

◼   ► yeah i'm at nana's it's bananas and also

◼   ► liked the story of the Colombian drug

◼   ► cartels that where they came up

◼   ► organically and found a market for this

◼   ► product and it it you know and there was

◼   ► a like that is a story Simon and we know

◼   ► that the CIA in Iraq

◼   ► did with them but there wasn't it's much

◼   ► more plausible that was just capitalism

◼   ► working then that anyone in the CIA had

◼   ► a big plan right and no soldiers came

◼   ► back from Vietnam and they've gotten

◼   ► hooked on heroin in Asia and that was

◼   ► that seems much more organic and natural

◼   ► and and plausible than that they were

◼   ► intentionally hooked on drugs by the CIA

◼   ► trying to ruin the inner city and so

◼   ► there's too many steps in a lot of those

◼   ► conspiracies for it for it to fort for

◼   ► me to believe that five guys in her in a

◼   ► cone of silence had the wisdom to

◼   ► foresee all of this stuff they're just

◼   ► in their line and keep it a secret all

◼   ► those all of those steps five guys could

◼   ► not cause that to happen by the rebels

◼   ► so there's a guy with the mustache and

◼   ► short-sleeved white shirts smoking of

◼   ► cigarette and he's got an idea and it's

◼   ► never been

◼   ► he's he never has the authority or the

◼   ► budget to pull off a big idea

◼   ► no one could ever say chemtrails and

◼   ► then have access to the black budget to

◼   ► create it right he'd have to take it up

◼   ► to the head office the head office is

◼   ► going to say well we've also we're

◼   ► trying to source trying to foment a

◼   ► revolution in the following six

◼   ► countries and we're trying to make

◼   ► Castro's beard fallout you know will

◼   ► give you a million dollars exploratory

◼   ► funds or whatever but you know so that's

◼   ► the that's the main stumbling block with

◼   ► most of those conspiracies like back

◼   ► trace it to the to the guy in short

◼   ► sleeve shirt that had the diabolical

◼   ► idea and then tell me there's any

◼   ► organization in the world where he can

◼   ► where he can get a powerpoint

◼   ► demonstration up where they give him the

◼   ► the six hundred million dollars to pull

◼   ► off his scheme you know right its and

◼   ► you'll find nobody finds out and nobody

◼   ► finds out why don't you like the way he

◼   ► the army cheated like the Chief of Staff

◼   ► of the Armed Forces doesn't have the

◼   ► authority to and the director of the CIA

◼   ► you know they have access to this money

◼   ► but they don't that it's not like some

◼   ► kind of

◼   ► situation where they just sweep into a

◼   ► room and say here's the plan

◼   ► you know they're there bureaucracies so

◼   ► that's the that's the number one thing

◼   ► that causes me to say 99% of the

◼   ► conspiracy theories would require I

◼   ► would require a Blofeld mhm and there's

◼   ► there just aren't any Blofeld's that we

◼   ► know of

◼   ► well I mean I sergey brin alright just a

◼   ► magic word no that's okay okay we're

◼   ► gonna do that thing where you from the

◼   ► internet

◼   ► oh please this is the story of James

◼   ► Tooley Matthews i sent you a link in the

◼   ► robot 1797 he was the first person

◼   ► documented with what we now called

◼   ► paranoid schizophrenia

◼   ► oh and the guy who tended to him was

◼   ► this guy John Haslem who wrote a book

◼   ► about what happened with this fella and

◼   ► the thing that he believed was

◼   ► tormenting him and you'll see that the

◼   ► illustration that was made of this thing

◼   ► called the air low which is the thing so

◼   ► in the pre active electricity age

◼   ► this is the machine that was causing all

◼   ► this trouble so I thought you'd enjoy

◼   ► this but also would like to read you the

◼   ► name of the others lot of people of the

◼   ► book that John has them wrote about this

◼   ► because it's probably my favorite title

◼   ► of a book ever

◼   ► this is often 1810 john hasn't wrote a

◼   ► book was later shortened to

◼   ► illustrations of of madness the full

◼   ► title original title illustrations of

◼   ► madness exhibiting a singular case of

◼   ► insanity and no less remarkable

◼   ► difference in medical opinions

◼   ► developing the nature of an assailant

◼   ► and the manner of working events with a

◼   ► description of tortures experience by

◼   ► bombs bursting lobster cracking and

◼   ► lengthening the brain embellished with a

◼   ► curious plate haha i love the word is

◼   ► ailment mhm so the heirloom as

◼   ► illustrated here as well as messing with

◼   ► this guy the torments included induced

◼   ► by the Rays of the heirloom included

◼   ► lobster cracking well which is a

◼   ► circular saw you get the lobster

◼   ► cracking under the circulation of the

◼   ► blood was prevented by a magnetic field

◼   ► stomach skinning an apoplexy working

◼   ► with nutmeg grater which involved the

◼   ► introduction of fluids into the skull

◼   ► his persecutors bore such names as the

◼   ► middleman who operated the heirloom the

◼   ► glove woman and sir Archie who acted as

◼   ► quote unquote repeaters or active

◼   ► warriors to enhance Matthews treat

◼   ► torment or record the machines

◼   ► activities and their leader a man

◼   ► bill or the King what you know as you

◼   ► describe that and and this has been true

◼   ► i think of is like an HBO show

◼   ► well yeah Wow actually start writing

◼   ► that script but uh but his description

◼   ► of his tormenters is it equips nicely

◼   ► with how I would describe a some of the

◼   ► cast of voices in my own head like there

◼   ► are like characters or invoices not like

◼   ► hearing voices but like points of view

◼   ► that you can punch of you that have

◼   ► distinct personalities yeah from one

◼   ► another right where were you

◼   ► you're walking along in here and you're

◼   ► quietude and some voice says uh it's you

◼   ► know a dummy over here

◼   ► yeah it's it's imperative that we do the

◼   ► following thing and some other voice

◼   ► says what

◼   ► that's the dumbest idea we've ever had

◼   ► and after a while II you have to

◼   ► acknowledge that these are separate they

◼   ► have separate viewpoints that and they

◼   ► have personalities enough to express

◼   ► them right here

◼   ► yeah but but i never i do not locate

◼   ► those things outside my body and that

◼   ► whatever their torment it just it seems

◼   ► like a heated discussion there they

◼   ► aren't like and and in a way I don't

◼   ► separate myself from them except at

◼   ► curiously like who are your dogs not

◼   ► telling you to go out and kill the

◼   ► people in your mail route or something

◼   ► right

◼   ► but but the different personalities that

◼   ► he describes in that you know just their

◼   ► character their character names their

◼   ► kid their player character named feel

◼   ► very familiar right that the one but the

◼   ► one that's leading the whole thing named

◼   ► bill for the king and over the king and

◼   ► LOL or the King you know uh that the

◼   ► various other sort of sort of traits