Roderick on the Line

Ep. 197: "Diamond Holes"


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  hello hi John [TS]

  hi Merlin how's it going pretty good [TS]

  it's very good but a while since we've [TS]

  talked [TS]

  yeah yeah we usually record on mondays [TS]

  like clockwork [TS]

  it's like clockwork although it wasn't [TS]

  always wasn't we recorded on tuesdays i [TS]

  think at one point [TS]

  yeah we're pretty clockwork hear you [TS]

  where we are in episode 197 of the show [TS]

  you're kidding me that's like flirty [TS]

  that's like 13,000 hours [TS]

  what does that mean does it mean when we [TS]

  get to 200 what's going to happen [TS]

  okay enough with the odometer I don't [TS]

  know I feel like a 2200 be one of us [TS]

  should die 100 in some kind of fiery car [TS]

  wreck and then then it's just whatever [TS]

  it's just complete you know like it's [TS]

  just a it's a box you say maybe you and [TS]

  me we do a film & Louise [TS]

  yeah when people love that you're pretty [TS]

  good driver [TS]

  uh yeah we stupid slowly direct the RV [TS]

  off a cliff [TS]

  almost there to hunt on hundred ninety [TS]

  seven episodes that's really something [TS]

  that's that's the best news I've had all [TS]

  day [TS]

  no I'm so glad it's good to hear your [TS]

  voice yeah it's nice to hear your voice [TS]

  whoo alright tell ya I'm back you know I [TS]

  yeah let's talk about ya back [TS]

  yeah that's true that's true mom's [TS]

  spaghetti uh-huh [TS]

  the whole incident that that's the last [TS]

  episode really set me back to some old [TS]

  eighties wrap em oh did you did you go [TS]

  through a little mode we know we've [TS]

  talked about Falco and I guess Falco was [TS]

  kind of slightly famous for the original [TS]

  german version of their commissar yeah [TS]

  thank you when Falco three came out you [TS]

  know my friend DJ maybe a cassette maybe [TS]

  a little maxell it had Falco three on [TS]

  one side and whatever the breakthrough [TS]

  Robert Palmer album was on the 001 was [TS]

  addicted to love and all yeah yeah yeah [TS]

  and boy it will that be 1984 I think [TS]

  happened oh man that was the soundtrack [TS]

  for me [TS]

  putting that in putting that in the [TS]

  jetta no i'm sorry the the rabbit didn't [TS]

  even have a car and put in other [TS]

  people's car when DJ's LeBaron Vienna [TS]

  calling the LeBaron that was a quiet you [TS]

  know that had Corinthian leather always [TS]

  at the one [TS]

  yeah the Chrysler Cordoba all the [TS]

  Cordoba had Corinthian leather but you [TS]

  know the LeBaron was built on the same [TS]

  platform maybe yeah yeah yeah don't get [TS]

  too deep into the Chrysler a markay [TS]

  you're gonna get a set from the French [TS]

  yeah now you're gonna get letters you're [TS]

  gonna get letters from the Chrysler fans [TS]

  remember the k-car around terrible that [TS]

  was you know I used to pick a car [TS]

  obviously for those of us who lived [TS]

  through that time the k-car was right [TS]

  about a universal joke an example of [TS]

  like the shitty car [TS]

  I mean that's like how long did they [TS]

  take on that name the cake are used to [TS]

  have with cars like like you have a [TS]

  charger or a barracuda or a comet and [TS]

  now this is the end k cart slice the [TS]

  cake card special k but I had a friend [TS]

  whose father was a bush pilot and their [TS]

  old car was like a 1968 Jeep pickup a [TS]

  which was like it's probably the [TS]

  burliest it was just 11 increment below [TS]

  being a military-grade truck you know it [TS]

  was a it was a it was huge [TS]

  it's not what we think of is as cheap [TS]

  scale it was like sort of vietnam-era [TS]

  jeep a half her like three-quarter-ton [TS]

  pickup and and he only referred to it he [TS]

  he never pronounce the J it was always [TS]

  the eep eep eep but his father at one [TS]

  point I decided to get a new car and he [TS]

  bought a cake are a k-car wagon out here [TS]

  and always laughing stock haha cake our [TS]

  wagon law [TS]

  oh no this is awful but they have panels [TS]

  and didn't have panels it was even it [TS]

  was even lower grade than that and it [TS]

  had [TS]

  manual transmission which I i challenge [TS]

  you to find a k-car well first of all I [TS]

  can't you find a k-car that still [TS]

  survives [TS]

  uh-huh but find one with a manual [TS]

  transmission even at the time it was [TS]

  like you get in the car to go what the [TS]

  hell is that what is that by that time [TS]

  and I mean I feel like the only reason [TS]

  to buy a manual at that point was just [TS]

  like save a hundred bucks [TS]

  mhm honest yeah this guy is he was going [TS]

  down the he was going down that the [TS]

  sheet he was just not taking any box now [TS]

  I don't want the undercoating no I don't [TS]

  want the I don't want the cloth uh you [TS]

  know the the cloth on the inside I don't [TS]

  want the cup I don't want to comment or [TS]

  I don't want our clock they put that on [TS]

  the fact that sucks my manager him know [TS]

  all that true clothes to go right [TS]

  um but but then you get in the thing and [TS]

  and it was like this totally wine d like [TS]

  zippy crazy little I mean it felt like [TS]

  you were driving a shoebox but but that [TS]

  the manual transmission just brought [TS]

  alive and all of a sudden you know he [TS]

  was beating like scirocco za off the [TS]

  line in this cake car and he drove the [TS]

  the the crap out of it but but it it was [TS]

  like at GTI level of acceleration in in [TS]

  1984 wow and i had to say you know what [TS]

  k car respect I can't up it but I can't [TS]

  say shit about cars anymore and I don't [TS]

  even know what we're do you direct your [TS]

  ire at that point [TS]

  yeah the Pacer that's not even a [TS]

  contemporary thing anymore [TS]

  yeah yeah you know i'm looking at this [TS]

  now and I mean at the time it struck him [TS]

  struck me as very much an American car [TS]

  but looking at it now I mean I'm not a [TS]

  car guy but it looks a lot like a cheap [TS]

  toyota corolla or something yeah it was [TS]

  it was there it was their import killer [TS]

  remember how every every third car was [TS]

  like all this this one's the import [TS]

  killer for all those years people buying [TS]

  these crappy Japanese car you really [TS]

  want this old-world American craftsmen [TS]

  shots right this one this is the one you [TS]

  know it gets gets good gas mileage this [TS]

  one and [TS]

  and it's gonna kill all those Japanese [TS]

  cars pouring into our shores didn't [TS]

  didn't kill them didn't kill I remember [TS]

  always thinking because because we were [TS]

  cheap in these matters so we would get [TS]

  you know whatever the delco am/fm radio [TS]

  with the buttons on it we never had [TS]

  anything to tricked-out but I remember [TS]

  thinking that the height of cool was [TS]

  like having a cassette player in your [TS]

  car [TS]

  no you know he's putting you put it you [TS]

  like it laughing we're going like [TS]

  sideways remember that course when I got [TS]

  my VW bus one of the first things I did [TS]

  was I went to the the audio place and [TS]

  have to put a little sony sony stereo in [TS]

  it [TS]

  yeah because you wanted to live but of [TS]

  course it was a VW so the windows leaked [TS]

  and the speaker's got all crackly did [TS]

  the engine ever catch on fire [TS]

  it's kind of like that's kind of [TS]

  signature signature moment I told you I [TS]

  told you I didn't change the oil enough [TS]

  and seized up [TS]

  yeah no tragedy I'm reading here the [TS]

  Chrysler K car platform they made them [TS]

  in all wheel drive which I have no way [TS]

  so look looking down here at the [TS]

  possible options you could get a 3.8 [TS]

  liter v8 or arms or v6 still a big motor [TS]

  you could get you your four-wheel drive [TS]

  there's even a four door limousine [TS]

  alright like that i had there was a [TS]

  convertible like I don't know where that [TS]

  is 2.2 litre turbo for turbo for that [TS]

  they put a mitsubishi motors in at one [TS]

  point [TS]

  come on this was a hell of a car now [TS]

  that I'm seeing it I just think a cars [TS]

  as being I mean you know they're even [TS]

  then kind of famously generic but also [TS]

  it was always the drivers that car [TS]

  oh right so we have memories are about [TS]

  being like stuck in a car of course it [TS]

  had no air-conditioning because they [TS]

  wouldn't pay for that and you're stuck [TS]

  in there with a bunch of teenagers [TS]

  waiting to drive you know I worked up [TS]

  the i worked as a canvasser on on the [TS]

  the for the public interest research [TS]

  group or pirg are you kidding that was [TS]

  almost my first grown-up job working in [TS]

  Boston [TS]

  yeah i was i worked in Washington DC for [TS]

  going on w fw part where they call it [TS]

  was us pirg [TS]

  this part and then it was sort of the [TS]

  era of the the campaign to pass the [TS]

  Clean Air Act em and support the Clean [TS]

  Air Act Clean Water Act we were working [TS]

  on a lot of Acts sure just like the [TS]

  Apostle Paul we had a lot of axe to [TS]

  grind down and so I moved over to the [TS]

  National Environmental Law Center still [TS]

  working kind of as a at that point a [TS]

  canvas manager i wasn't i was wrangling [TS]

  Canvassers that was the that was the [TS]

  opportunity that i had to chauffeur [TS]

  ralph nader around one afternoon that's [TS]

  right we should remind listeners that [TS]

  you had a rough period [TS]

  yeah and that I during those days we [TS]

  were driving k cars right like in the [TS]

  morning we would have a big meeting [TS]

  would be 80 kids all in the you know [TS]

  we'd get it pumped up everybody had [TS]

  their clipboard it was like all right [TS]

  let's go out there and fight for the [TS]

  environment and get the world the water [TS]

  on the air and the eagles in America go [TS]

  one time a the the Kennedy the Kennedy [TS]

  that had read kind of red curly hair [TS]

  mmm he didn't he didn't look like a [TS]

  Kennedy in the same way that Sonny [TS]

  didn't look like a core leone oh sure [TS]

  you know what I mean like guys not [TS]

  really even Italian [TS]

  mm how did he get the how was he doing [TS]

  he's got the undershirt but the hair [TS]

  doesn't match the hair does imagine that [TS]

  there's that there's the one Kennedy [TS]

  that's like this it was the son of [TS]

  robert maybe I think it needs were not [TS]

  above putting somebody in an attic no no [TS]

  that's right but this he was a [TS]

  charismatic guy he was a congressman [TS]

  right which one was he George Kennedy [TS]

  know you got blue net heat red Kennedy [TS]

  know make a 50x but he this Kennedy came [TS]

  one morning [TS]

  ok so it's so great if it turned out all [TS]

  along George Kennedy was like part of [TS]

  like a whole Hyannisport uh-huh [TS]

  crowd yeah the whole time [TS]

  uh let's see uh what was his name this [TS]

  is gonna drive me crazy and I'm ziana is [TS]

  it is an environmental Kennedy he was a [TS]

  yes he was an environmental Kennedy he [TS]

  was a up-and-coming Kennedy was a young [TS]

  Kennedy Jesus and I'm getting there [TS]

  ok i'm on the Kennedy family tree who he [TS]

  be a sibling of move let's see here this [TS]

  is it was it Joe Kennedy young Joe [TS]

  Kennedy Joe Kennedy no I think young Joe [TS]

  was the one who died in that horrible [TS]

  accident [TS]

  well young Joe had red hair noe's Joe [TS]

  John Rose Kathleen Eunice Patricia Bobby [TS]

  gene and Ed otherwise known as Ted know [TS]

  Ethel Skakel no was an apple [TS]

  anyway william cavendish mark with [TS]

  partington maybe maybe his maybe you [TS]

  know he married mary kathleen know it [TS]

  could have been it could've been liev [TS]

  schreiber and i always get them [TS]

  liev schreiber sargent shriver it's a [TS]

  common mistake anyway he came by one is [TS]

  not a cold day would you love to be [TS]

  named sergeant Shriver sargent shriver [TS]

  well that's the thing about wasps right [TS]

  they have the craziest names people with [TS]

  the first name [TS]

  mcgeorge what how do you enjoy the money [TS]

  what a terrific name how do you get the [TS]

  name mcgeorge is all they all have [TS]

  terrific name's George George come in [TS]

  now [TS]

  ok here we go we got sons of God sons of [TS]

  Ted no guys not a sign of Ted not a sign [TS]

  of Ted okay so you got a Robert Shriver [TS]

  William Kennedy Smith know he was a bad [TS]

  guy William Kennedy Smith he was a he [TS]

  was a date rape / always hear that [TS]

  George magazine guy is always that which [TS]

  magazine was was a John FK junior right [TS]

  John John John John uh-huh right [TS]

  no let's see here he was he was tall he [TS]

  was charismatic just to be clear I'm [TS]

  fine taking literally an hour to have to [TS]

  do this [TS]

  hi I'm just really enjoying the Kennedy [TS]

  family tree right now I feel like he was [TS]

  you know he came in he at the kennedy [TS]

  smile but he looked a little bit like [TS]

  Sonny Corleone e I it was nineteen [TS]

  ninety he was in office he was in office [TS]

  at the time he was he you know I'm [TS]

  seeing now how many redheaded Kennedy's [TS]

  there are if you want to if you want to [TS]

  really talk about redheaded Kennedy's [TS]

  yeah no ideal ideal anyway he came by so [TS]

  we were driving k cars a lot at that [TS]

  time and I came about was this is after [TS]

  the alaska court William Kennedy Smith [TS]

  no no we talked about William Kennedy [TS]

  Smith already that's not him I'm sorry [TS]

  was I was confusing him with patrick [TS]

  patrick joseph kennedy patrick joe' if [TS]

  can have a glass of Kennedy let's talk [TS]

  about Patrick I think it was Pat Kennedy [TS]

  Patrick always his idea to kind of like [TS]

  guide [TS]

  yeah yeah that but that's him oh no no [TS]

  no that's not know he's younger than I [TS]

  am he looks a he looks it looks like a [TS]

  Kennedy a little flesh easier than a [TS]

  typical Kennedy and somebody works for [TS]

  Kennedy yeah yeah but then when he when [TS]

  he starts when he starts pounding on the [TS]

  table you're like are there it is [TS]

  uh-huh there's the Kennedy him you know [TS]

  you know I the Kennedys have played in [TS]

  an outsized role probably in all of our [TS]

  lives but in my family's life i think [TS]

  the Kennedys were always a what were [TS]

  they they were always about a shadow [TS]

  that came across the land to Who I am [TS]

  for a lot of reasons [TS]

  yeah a lot I mean honestly I mean you [TS]

  know there's all you [TS]

  we know you grew up with friends you're [TS]

  Catholic friends I have like pictures of [TS]

  Kennedy and the Pope in the house right [TS]

  that does the thing that was actually a [TS]

  thing [TS]

  and there's a whole sense of like the [TS]

  camelot thing there's the sense of like [TS]

  what was lost with that but there's also [TS]

  that sense of like why can't our family [TS]

  be like this right we're so close and [TS]

  yet so far they're just they're just [TS]

  Americans just like us who they didn't [TS]

  you know they're not royalty how did [TS]

  they come to be royalty [TS]

  you gotta really be willing to rig an [TS]

  election you gotta pay off some southern [TS]

  sheriff's that helps a lot and you gotta [TS]

  yeah you have to you know what it is [TS]

  there so much in life that is the [TS]

  product of just ambition which is a [TS]

  thing that you either have a lot of a [TS]

  medium amount of none so what it takes [TS]

  to Scott your ambition you can be [TS]

  somebody who has a lot of ambition but [TS]

  yeah if you get Scott easily then take [TS]

  it kind of ties like a campfire [TS]

  I like that Scott your ambitions [TS]

  catching the ambition I I think about [TS]

  ambition all the time I think about my [TS]

  own ambition I think about other [TS]

  people's ambition you know you read that [TS]

  you open those magazines and it's like [TS]

  100 young people under 100 all those are [TS]

  really getting under my skin John and [TS]

  you go all right let's see what's going [TS]

  on here and it's like well 80 of these [TS]

  had rich parents but uh some of these [TS]

  people really did say never say die [TS]

  yep and you go and nobody even really [TS]

  encouraging them know we still work [TS]

  really hard they did this stuff that [TS]

  they needed to do they eventually got [TS]

  recognized but didn't even have a big [TS]

  impact there's no wonder it's another [TS]

  thing [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah they're just go go let's [TS]

  let's you know deep deep deep and I [TS]

  admire and I feel like it's I feel like [TS]

  it's another it's another trait like [TS]

  being able to throw a javelin hmm and we [TS]

  we all know not to we watch the person [TS]

  throw the javelin on the Olympics and [TS]

  you and you say wow that's great [TS]

  I but very few people say I wish I could [TS]

  do that and almost no one measures their [TS]

  measures the theirselves themselves or [TS]

  their performance against the Olympic [TS]

  javelin thrower like right I'm i'm not a [TS]

  javelin thrower I work in an office like [TS]

  a right that but to have a corresponding [TS]

  like a trait that's that's maybe [TS]

  just as as unusual or just as much a [TS]

  kind of not a product of environment not [TS]

  a question of how you were raised or [TS]

  educated but just something that you [TS]

  came onto this planet pre equipped with [TS]

  to sit in your basement laboratory and [TS]

  work on a thing until you have devised [TS]

  something as universally life-changing [TS]

  as the segway or you know like what like [TS]

  somebody who just as a single-minded [TS]

  dedication to either science or or [TS]

  business or whatever but we all we all [TS]

  kind of measure ourselves against those [TS]

  people right and you know in search our [TS]

  history and search ourselves like why [TS]

  did I not why am i not capable of this [TS]

  level of achievement but I really do I [TS]

  really do suspect that it's that it's a [TS]

  that it's a trait kind of like almost [TS]

  like the color of your eyes [TS]

  I don't know but you know like like not [TS]

  to not to dive too deeply into this but [TS]

  like you were in san francisco at the at [TS]

  the you know through the whole boom [TS]

  you knew all those guys they respected [TS]

  you and loved you and you know you were [TS]

  like you were like a a person unknown [TS]

  person in that time but you didn't and [TS]

  it's not like you were it's not like you [TS]

  were any less brilliant but you didn't [TS]

  you didn't decide to make an appt count [TS]

  all right I didn't actually realize in [TS]

  the chief well are just like you didn't [TS]

  student super achieve there are so many [TS]

  so many of those people that were just [TS]

  kind of wandering around the same chat [TS]

  rooms that you were who are like you [TS]

  know what you know what we need right [TS]

  now is an app that or you know were [TS]

  invented the app or invented the word [TS]

  blog or whatever [TS]

  yeah buddy you know the other thing [TS]

  about I like your javelin example [TS]

  because I think that's somewhat [TS]

  indicative of why this becomes [TS]

  complicated like you [TS]

  you've met you had good hamburgers and [TS]

  bad hamburgers in your life in any given [TS]

  month you've probably had a handful of [TS]

  hamburgers because this was really good [TS]

  this one is not the problem is your only [TS]

  probably aware of like one javelin [TS]

  person and that's somebody using the [TS]

  Olympics and see my look at javelin and [TS]

  go okay that's the thing i could do or [TS]

  like Fonzie with the snatching the coins [TS]

  office arm you know [TS]

  uh-huh si III disagree somewhat in that [TS]

  I would often see an obscure talent on [TS]

  TV and then think this is gonna be my [TS]

  ticket and for a while I thought it was [TS]

  stashing coins off my arm haha really i [TS]

  was a child right did you try that for a [TS]

  long time [TS]

  come on we got some rolls of pennies and [TS]

  I unrolled them and then I would see how [TS]

  many i could do and how what's your [TS]

  what's your top top run i don't remember [TS]

  i just pennies scattering all over the [TS]

  living room well I'm and now I'm also [TS]

  just perplexed by the idea that somebody [TS]

  wrote an episode of happy days that was [TS]

  mostly about snatching coins off your [TS]

  elbow [TS]

  well you remember that was this the jump [TS]

  the shark air this was doing I don't you [TS]

  know this might be a fever dream john [TS]

  i'm pretty sure there was an episode of [TS]

  happy and I don't even think it was like [TS]

  an eighties happy days i think it was [TS]

  still while she was wearing a white [TS]

  shirt i could be wrong but there [TS]

  whatsoever i was in ohio i do remember [TS]

  this and there was an episode that [TS]

  involved the ability to stack a bunch of [TS]

  coins that basically imagine that you're [TS]

  bending your arm so that your palm is [TS]

  almost on your shoulder facing up your [TS]

  forearms parallel with the ground you [TS]

  stack coins just above where your elbow [TS]

  would be and then you go snap and you [TS]

  see how many coins you can grab off of [TS]

  your elbow using your hand [TS]

  oh oh yeah I was always got involved in [TS]

  a competition about this is what I [TS]

  remember somebody wrote that somebody [TS]

  somebody spit balling that this could be [TS]

  cocaine this could very easily be [TS]

  cocaine [TS]

  it seems to me that this was this was [TS]

  one of those things where you're sitting [TS]

  around here like we got to come up with [TS]

  an episode we got to come up with [TS]

  another thing that's like what can you [TS]

  what can you do Henry Winkler and he's [TS]

  like well i mean i can stick a cigarette [TS]

  my nose they're like I don't think so [TS]

  have you ever seen this and he like snap [TS]

  the you know did this that the coins [TS]

  they were like that's it you know ok [TS]

  I've found a clip on youtube its back [TS]

  there still in Arnolds are funsies [TS]

  in the white t-shirt has not moved the [TS]

  black t-shirt the slimming black t-shirt [TS]

  so still in the white t-shirt and it [TS]

  looks like only a look at here's a video [TS]

  of henry winkler doing the trick today [TS]

  look at that you can still do it i guess [TS]

  so he seems like a very gifted guy but [TS]

  now I for those of you at home who were [TS]

  shouting at me about the Kennedys it was [TS]

  Joe Kennedy to electric bill that he was [TS]

  the oldest son of robert f kennedy so [TS]

  our F K's oldest boy born and 52 which [TS]

  means you know he was eight years old [TS]

  when his uncle was elected president he [TS]

  was there for the whole show you Ailee [TS]

  given that name again Joe p Kennedy to [TS]

  channel p0p Kennedy to tell this [TS]

  grandson of joe p Kennedy senior huh [TS]

  I you know I met the man he was a he was [TS]

  he was wonderful but a and he was a he [TS]

  was in the house of representatives and [TS]

  this isn't even on your rhetoric Joseph [TS]

  Kennedy to know Joseph people for the [TS]

  love of Christ I'll have the same name [TS]

  I know tube and then there's Kennedy p [TS]

  Kennedy to Kennedy Kennedy the Kennedy [TS]

  there's there's PP Kennedy with Kennedy [TS]

  i was just reading about reading about [TS]

  Rosemary's lobotomy you know Joe asked [TS]

  for that Joe asked that rosemary being [TS]

  lobotomized and he was already one he [TS]

  regretted in the rest of his life he did [TS]

  you know that was a fact [TS]

  yep you know a Hodgman met kick Kennedy [TS]

  Oh kick Kennedy Kennedy the gel second [TS]

  dick Kennedy was at the he was a [TS]

  p-channel Martin he was talking to [TS]

  somebody was like wow I've got this [TS]

  person today and and she's so dynamic [TS]

  and so like captivating and when she was [TS]

  so cute [TS]

  her name was kick who was that oh this [TS]

  is Kathleen Cavendish otherwise known as [TS]

  kick is it a younger kick [TS]

  well they're so yeah there's a [TS]

  contemporary kick my goodness there's a [TS]

  there's a millennial kick [TS]

  oh yeah she's got the job look at her [TS]

  yep she can be on a television program [TS]

  gtalk he talked to her for a while not [TS]

  realizing that she was a Kennedy and [TS]

  came away [TS]

  the experience thinking like wow what a [TS]

  dynamic person and then later on [TS]

  somebody's like oh you mean kick Kennedy [TS]

  it was like will you buy arms Yeah right [TS]

  right right as you know he's a Bostonian [TS]

  right [TS]

  Kennedy's don't I mean you know a little [TS]

  it's not it's not a real college town [TS]

  yeah so yeah so Joe Kennedy I didn't [TS]

  mean to derail though what we were [TS]

  talking about which was [TS]

  oh right the Kennedys when I didn't look [TS]

  like all World Records apparently the [TS]

  the world records called coin snatching [TS]

  and like all World Records has come a [TS]

  long way back in 1973 and all these all [TS]

  these are apparently held by people in [TS]

  great britain so maybe there's something [TS]

  about the coins they're making 73 the [TS]

  record was 39 coins right by 1985 you [TS]

  get up to 70 coins a man called Ian [TS]

  Gould as of April 1993 and I don't know [TS]

  how long ago this page is updated he's [TS]

  got 328 coins and is an amazing photo of [TS]

  him snatching coin [TS]

  this is incredible but then underneath [TS]

  it says the record for a perfect catch [TS]

  with no drops is 100 coins also by [TS]

  adding gold [TS]

  okay i mean i ordered what does that [TS]

  mean no drops twice the idea is you see [TS]

  is spray and pray right you just use me [TS]

  as you can you catch what you can't [TS]

  that's that seems pretty lame well so he [TS]

  puts five star explodes 290 coins fly [TS]

  everywhere he catches a hundred boy talk [TS]

  about venture capital my right but that [TS]

  whoa [TS]

  but but I was very impressive like 328 [TS]

  coins how many this is this begs the [TS]

  question how many coins can someone [TS]

  stack on their arm as a dude that's a [TS]

  whole different questions very [TS]

  interesting don't think i could even [TS]

  afford to do this done i don't think i [TS]

  have the cash reserve to be able to even [TS]

  attended let alone the arm strength i [TS]

  just want ya i want to see I want to see [TS]

  like basically the world record for the [TS]

  number of coins a person can stack on [TS]

  their body at any times and still be [TS]

  standing on their feet right I don't [TS]

  want you laying on the ground [TS]

  how many cars you can stack want you to [TS]

  be standing on your feet with your arms [TS]

  spread wide presents [TS]

  yes and then how many coins can you [TS]

  stack on this person [TS]

  prices for what it's worth I get the [TS]

  feeling from looking at google images [TS]

  Dean gould of the United Kingdom he's [TS]

  moved on from coins now he's all about [TS]

  catching bar coasters [TS]

  well so yeah right there they have a [TS]

  little bit more hang time I guess so I [TS]

  what's crazy for me here is that this [TS]

  world records for coin snatching has no [TS]

  there are no hyperlinks you can't meet [TS]

  Andrew gleed you can't talk about you [TS]

  can't go to see Chris Redford or like [TS]

  and you know Andrew gleed state in the [TS]

  running all the way through the nineties [TS]

  what if you got sick or something [TS]

  instantly was right in the running up [TS]

  until the early nineties you started in [TS]

  78 and he and Dean gould we're going [TS]

  head-to-head starting in the mid [TS]

  eighties when the first bitcoin jump [TS]

  happened [TS]

  that's right oh you like 130-2 how do [TS]

  you like 140 you really let me try 150cc [TS]

  like us [TS]

  yeah glee is like 151 then Google was [TS]

  like boom 46 interface dng cleat says [TS]

  you know it is far from done let's try [TS]

  217 217 gleed was the first one to go [TS]

  above 200 and then there was a prophecy [TS]

  one day there would be one who d 248 [TS]

  yesterday [TS]

  Stuart may who he just he's just some [TS]

  some some prodigy some kid that comes in [TS]

  off the street and then probably [TS]

  suffered an aneurysm or or ended up [TS]

  ended up as a chess checkers gotta shake [TS]

  ya and then gold comes back to 50 [TS]

  forever 328 suck it [TS]

  oh my gosh you know Stuart maybe being [TS]

  Stuart may is a little bit like being a [TS]

  slightly well-known podcaster well first [TS]

  of all nobody knows who you are and in [TS]

  2nd you have to explain why someone [TS]

  would know who you are and that makes it [TS]

  horribly awkward [TS]

  alright so you did what now well here's [TS]

  the thing is back in march of 1991 let [TS]

  me explain is in March was around the [TS]

  20th of Mark 1991 I put 248 coins on my [TS]

  arm I condom okay in yesterday that's [TS]

  your name may be uh huh [TS]

  I'm it been given more sing higher i was [TS]

  reading some article where it talked in [TS]

  invariably you end up talking to the i [TS]

  guess the same 100 people but it was [TS]

  they were talking to a teller right uh [TS]

  yeah of penance of Penn & Teller teller [TS]

  to me has always been the interesting [TS]

  one or the one that I wanted to know [TS]

  more about probably because he didn't [TS]

  talk and that makes you what to know [TS]

  more but he was saying kind of this what [TS]

  he had an origin story like like so many [TS]

  successful people I was like I was eight [TS]

  years old and and that they they had an [TS]

  offer for a magic kit on the Howdy Doody [TS]

  show and I i sent away for it with three [TS]

  boxtops an hour you know and half a [TS]

  pickle and they sent me the magic kit [TS]

  and it came and it was like totally [TS]

  shoddy and garbage it was like it was [TS]

  like the sea monkeys except made of [TS]

  cardboard right shut it did a trick and [TS]

  I figured out the trick and on Christmas [TS]

  morning I showed all my relatives the [TS]

  trick and they all politely applauded [TS]

  and that hooked me on magic forever and [TS]

  you know I read those stories and I'm [TS]

  like oh yeah i did the same thing I got [TS]

  the magic kit from the Howdy Doody show [TS]

  and I learned the one trick and it made [TS]

  me want to become a consumer advocate [TS]

  yeah I got here because the valley the [TS]

  rough nature of magic I was like this is [TS]

  horseshit you know I did that the trick [TS]

  the the people in the family clapped and [TS]

  it gave me no feeling at all like it [TS]

  didn't it didn't fill up the void inside [TS]

  me it just you know the thing fell apart [TS]

  in my hands and I was like maybe I'll be [TS]

  a lawyer you know i didn't i didn't have [TS]

  that moment and multiple times over the [TS]

  course of my life right a thousand times [TS]

  I've held some Excalibur in my hands and [TS]

  tried to pull it from the stone and half [TS]

  the time did pull it from the stone and [TS]

  I was like yeah it was pretty good put [TS]

  it back in the stone for the next guy [TS]

  yeah sure that supply thing to do to put [TS]

  the seat down yeah what do you take this [TS]

  Excalibur you think it's yours you just [TS]

  leave it by the stone well with you know [TS]

  what do you get [TS]

  I feel like I feel like that's a little [TS]

  rude it would be like walking up to a [TS]

  water fountain taking a drink and turn [TS]

  it off the wall haha sure that excalibur [TS]

  was like I'm sure that people assume [TS]

  this was for me but I was taking every [TS]

  every flag I see [TS]

  the neighborhood were using that as a [TS]

  way of navigating around like you go up [TS]

  to the sword in the stone you take the [TS]

  left you know and then all of a sudden [TS]

  the sword is gone it's like I you see [TS]

  the stone with the kind of sword-shaped [TS]

  told me when you get there is the [TS]

  ultimate example of imperialism you just [TS]

  assumed if you find something and can [TS]

  take it it should be yours [TS]

  sure not only that but the ability the [TS]

  ability to steal something that used to [TS]

  be community property huh [TS]

  now make sure the king and make sure the [TS]

  King right you doing I'm the king now [TS]

  all of a sudden boom you're mr. big [TS]

  wheel and that and I'm sure that's what [TS]

  teller did with the with the fake magic [TS]

  box and like everybody's pulling swords [TS]

  from stones all around us and walking [TS]

  out into the world like well now i'm the [TS]

  king because I mean what it means what [TS]

  it meant of course was that teller then [TS]

  pursued 17 years of single-minded like [TS]

  learning card tricks and then we're [TS]

  making people making quarters appear in [TS]

  people's ears right yeah and then and [TS]

  then he's a genius and so so I'm [TS]

  wondering what is inside me or you or [TS]

  most people or or I guess it's a better [TS]

  asked what is inside them where it [TS]

  really was a switch and then they just [TS]

  knew what they wanted to do I mean I had [TS]

  that conversation with paul f tompkins [TS]

  one time when I was like yeah you know [TS]

  comedy seems like a doable thing I i [TS]

  like to make people laugh [TS]

  sure and my friends tell me I'm funny [TS]

  yeah and he said I have never wanted to [TS]

  do anything else and i have done only [TS]

  this my entire adult life from the time [TS]

  I was a young boy I wanted to be a [TS]

  comedian and I pursued it [TS]

  single-mindedly my my whole life and in [TS]

  a way he was saying he was saying no [TS]

  comedy is not a not a fun thing that you [TS]

  can just do and I was like okay that's [TS]

  received but at the same time he's [TS]

  absolutely right right I I mean I wanted [TS]

  to be a comedian when i was ten years [TS]

  old but I also wanted to be an astronaut [TS]

  and absorbed juggler whatever you also [TS]

  like whatever it is that you do and I'm [TS]

  trying to go too far into my other [TS]

  persona here but part of it is also you [TS]

  got [TS]

  there's gotta be something about the [TS]

  business of what you do not necessarily [TS]

  the economics and finance of it but [TS]

  there's gotta be something about the [TS]

  business of what you do that you find [TS]

  you are [TS]

  either really good at and/or enjoy doing [TS]

  like you know you arguing with the guy [TS]

  with the cigar in the role [TS]

  hundred-dollar bills bucket and pay for [TS]

  a gig like if you can't get with that as [TS]

  part of your job and that's gonna be a [TS]

  tough job for you right [TS]

  it's gotta be the thing is when things [TS]

  like we always notice this one thing [TS]

  about it we go like oh yeah you know I [TS]

  like to ride around in cars i'd probably [TS]

  be a great mechanic that's a while not [TS]

  necessarily I mean you like invoicing [TS]

  like there's a lot to it beyond just you [TS]

  know enjoying that field and I think [TS]

  comedy is definitely like that [TS]

  well my sister was walking around the [TS]

  party the other day as she sometimes [TS]

  does asking everybody the same question [TS]

  what that was about joy John yeah it in [TS]

  a way in a way she was saying to [TS]

  everybody [TS]

  what is the one thing that you [TS]

  unashamedly would say that you were good [TS]

  at like not you don't qualify it it [TS]

  doesn't have to be anything bigger or [TS]

  impressive but what's the one thing that [TS]

  you will say you know without shame I'm [TS]

  actually good at this writing get people [TS]

  say are you good at ping-pong yeah I'm [TS]

  alright ping-pong and maybe your killer [TS]

  at ping-pong maybe you can't play at all [TS]

  but must be like yeah i mean i can play [TS]

  yeah I'm fine a ping-pong yeah I'm [TS]

  pretty good at pool i guess you know but [TS]

  what's the one thing that you are just [TS]

  like yeah I'm good at that [TS]

  I'm actually good and she was going [TS]

  around and and getting like surprise [TS]

  answers like I'm actually you know her [TS]

  answer was I'm really good at [TS]

  snowboarding and skiing and everything [TS]

  else in my life photography you know [TS]

  dancing whatever I'm you know like yeah [TS]

  these are things that I'm pursuing [TS]

  photography is my passion but i will [TS]

  walk into any room in the world stand up [TS]

  at the lectern and say I'm fucking great [TS]

  skiing and you know and she's right and [TS]

  and so I'm standing next to her and and [TS]

  you know and there was a a like lot of [TS]

  different answers a I young lady I know [TS]

  well was like dancing and I looked and I [TS]

  was like dancing you dance and she was [TS]

  like yeah I'm a great dancer [TS]

  that's the one thing that I would say [TS]

  honey I never even seen you dance at [TS]

  which point my sister's boyfriend said [TS]

  I've never even seen Susan ski but these [TS]

  are the things that they're like this is [TS]

  the thing that I'm actually good and [TS]

  then so they turned to me and they're [TS]

  like what's the thing that you're [TS]

  actually good at what is the one thing [TS]

  you would say who and I was like uh huh [TS]

  ah ping-pong like I don't I don't even I [TS]

  don't even know talk talking [TS]

  extemporaneously is that a thing you can [TS]

  see it's just but it's also like I'm [TS]

  with you it's also just not how I think [TS]

  it's not how I think about myself and [TS]

  other people i think it's a difference [TS]

  and i'm not saying i mean first we agree [TS]

  with you that guy would be put on the [TS]

  spot like that I would feel the need as [TS]

  a funny guy to come up with some kind of [TS]

  an answer like I'm really good at doing [TS]

  the dishes at the last minute or [TS]

  something only I I honestly I couldn't [TS]

  clean and it's actually not how I think [TS]

  about myself it would be I would have to [TS]

  make something up [TS]

  well yeah and and I that's how I felt [TS]

  too like uh i don't i don't know ice [TS]

  extemporaneous speaking yeah right like [TS]

  a lot what is the thing where you walk [TS]

  into a room and you feel like you're [TS]

  fine [TS]

  I i can do that oh yeah i got if if you [TS]

  if you had a microphone right now and [TS]

  told me to go up on the stage and keep [TS]

  everybody keep everybody's attention [TS]

  distracted for 45 minutes while we will [TS]

  heed conduct this bank robbery across [TS]

  the street [TS]

  oh look at me like i would go up to the [TS]

  microphone be like excuse me everybody [TS]

  hi so anyway one time you know and i [TS]

  would like to do that [TS]

  what is that yeah i mean anything is [TS]

  there are way funnier people than me [TS]

  there are way more they're way smarter [TS]

  people than me like i don't i won't i [TS]

  wouldn't even claim to get up there and [TS]

  actually be entertaining for that 45 [TS]

  minutes but I could do it without [TS]

  without beer [TS]

  yes so what that does definitely that's [TS]

  unusual I feel the same way on that one [TS]

  yeah definitely unusual I think we're [TS]

  both probably pretty fun in the room [TS]

  were super annoying on a podcast but in [TS]

  the room I think we're both pretty good [TS]

  with people [TS]

  yeah pretty good pretty good people [TS]

  would be surprised to hang out with us i [TS]

  think yeah you're much less insufferable [TS]

  then you would guess I've seen this [TS]

  happen [TS]

  at one another when the long winters [TS]

  play in San Francisco Merlin generally [TS]

  comes to the show and then after the [TS]

  show everybody standing around writer is [TS]

  a lot of people there they're all [TS]

  they're all happy to be there it's a [TS]

  rock show they've seen their they've [TS]

  seen their favorite band or a band that [TS]

  they like that they don't get to see [TS]

  that often and they're socializing with [TS]

  each other and stand around the merch [TS]

  table and then you look across the room [TS]

  and there's Merlin and there are between [TS]

  six and ten people standing around [TS]

  Merlin just trying to get part of the [TS]

  just trying to get into the accident [TS]

  including security security is it was [TS]

  watchin sorry there are actually there [TS]

  in the back but you know you're you're [TS]

  holding court a little i'll hold some [TS]

  Court you all court [TS]

  well I love to hold a little course and [TS]

  it's very fun people are people with it [TS]

  it's so show it's like this is it yeah [TS]

  right okay that's it [TS]

  holding court is that a thing okay you [TS]

  know what I'll do that [TS]

  yes you're holding her I was gonna say [TS]

  either I a having a near certainty that [TS]

  everybody in the room is very close to [TS]

  permanently hating you I'm great at that [TS]

  and i'm also also pretty good at being [TS]

  amusing in a certain context for up to [TS]

  90 seconds [TS]

  yeah that's something that seems a [TS]

  little too precious you're supposed to [TS]

  say something like I make great cookies [TS]

  yeah this is like I'm remembering now [TS]

  wonderful episode of the TV program The [TS]

  Simpsons where mrs. Hoover is Hoover [TS]

  think she has Lyme disease and so Dustin [TS]

  Hoffman comes in he's mr. Bergstrom [TS]

  remember he comes in and he's the nice [TS]

  teacher any ghosts around us all the [TS]

  kids like what they can do it doesn't [TS]

  matter how stupid it is like if you can [TS]

  make a face like you the best person in [TS]

  the world that and he makes all the kids [TS]

  feel good about themselves [TS]

  I could use a mr. Bergstrom today call [TS]

  me too i woke up I still I still John [TS]

  that is the only episode of the simpsons [TS]

  that still consistently makes me cry [TS]

  every single time i watch it gives you [TS]

  remember how it ends it ends with mr. [TS]

  mr. Bergstrom leaving on the train and [TS]

  he gives Lisa and note remember that it [TS]

  says i am lisa simpson for you are at [TS]

  least something [TS]

  mm okay i'll cut that out I got the [TS]

  quote wrong but it still makes me cry [TS]

  yeah I cry now you're Lisa Simpson i'm [TS]

  crying inside because I'm really good at [TS]

  crying inside i really want is I want to [TS]

  just come up coming right out [TS]

  say the first time I saw the simpsons I [TS]

  was a little rock arkansas and you'll [TS]

  notice that i pronounce it LOL wroclaw [TS]

  Ross that sounds pronounced little rock [TS]

  arkansas and I was like crashing on some [TS]

  guys floor and Little Rock and he said [TS]

  you ever seen the simpsons and it was [TS]

  nineteen ninety i think and now but it [TS]

  was already kind of a phenomenon project [TS]

  it was going on [TS]

  by this point and i said now I guess I [TS]

  haven't I mean I've seen life in hell [TS]

  yeah on the back page of many [TS]

  alternative newspapers and i think its [TS]

  response he was he's from Portland [TS]

  writer or limit for Portland area so [TS]

  he's probably phenom in the pnw at that [TS]

  point right yeah he went to read like [TS]

  with you know he was a his he was one of [TS]

  the alternative comic strip writers he [TS]

  was he had the one of the best strips in [TS]

  your local liberal throwaway paper for [TS]

  sure he was like I love life and I had a [TS]

  life and help look for the simpsons i [TS]

  love life and he'll how do you feel [TS]

  about zippy dependent um I enjoyed [TS]

  independent hit in head for its Dada [TS]

  humor huh I didn't always get zippy but [TS]

  i got i like the idea of zippy yeah [TS]

  right or bizarro yeah i like all those [TS]

  you got a lot of good stuff bizarre that [TS]

  you cut those and put it on the fridge [TS]

  sure of course those were like 20 [TS]

  remaining as it was called a homer [TS]

  those were those are like mini ted talks [TS]

  like the original bazaars original [TS]

  TEDTalk it was the original turns out [TS]

  coming through [TS]

  but uh but you know life in hell with [TS]

  the animatic one eared rabbit and that [TS]

  two little guys in fences that appeared [TS]

  to love each other and appeared to be [TS]

  gay with that guy Warren Jeff you know [TS]

  those were all wonderful character Jeff [TS]

  brothers lovers or both or both but so [TS]

  I'm in little rock arkansas and this guy [TS]

  sits me down i think probably puts a [TS]

  bong in my lap and then puts in a VHS [TS]

  cassette and forces me to watch between [TS]

  14 and forty VHS recorded Simpsons [TS]

  episodes I don't know that's the best [TS]

  way to do it all with starting at number [TS]

  one and all the way you know with the [TS]

  kind of VHS like sku problems along the [TS]

  top of the screen [TS]

  yep until I felt like I was in Clockwork [TS]

  Orange just like he got a little vika [TS]

  technique just like no not another one [TS]

  not another was like don't know you [TS]

  gotta watch the next one [TS]

  it's amazing and from from that [TS]

  experience right like I eventually left [TS]

  little rock in a daze may be dragging [TS]

  the bong I don't know I and from that [TS]

  point on I would if I if I stumbled upon [TS]

  a simpsons episode as I was flipping [TS]

  through the channels in a hotel I would [TS]

  greedily watch it yes I mean it's not [TS]

  like it turned me off the simpsons but [TS]

  also i pursued no methodical watching of [TS]

  the simpsons so so a lot of that mean [TS]

  there are a lot of people that presume [TS]

  that i have seen 1000 simpsons is like [TS]

  everyone else has but I have not [TS]

  yeah and I and I've seen I've seen [TS]

  because i went on the internet head and [TS]

  watched be a are they saying boo or [TS]

  burns i watch that like 40 times the [TS]

  light because i loved it i thought it [TS]

  was wonderful but anyway so no I don't [TS]

  remember the one and I'm always for [TS]

  something that's ok that's because [TS]

  they're like to remember the one and I'm [TS]

  like I don't remember [TS]

  no III [TS]

  help that I'm not that guy no you're not [TS]

  you're not you're not but like I want I [TS]

  I want to have what also so I did I went [TS]

  on the internet and i said i want to [TS]

  watch all the simpsons 'as at one point [TS]

  and the internet said you cannot they [TS]

  said you can buy a DVD [TS]

  oh yeah that was the way for a while [TS]

  here but you tell me now how would i go [TS]

  watch the simpsons they're not on [TS]

  YouTube are no they're on the cable you [TS]

  can see them on on I think FX x IC so i [TS]

  would have to have cable TV yet [TS]

  something [TS]

  yes that is something you need a TV to [TS]

  know about this is no you're no you're [TS]

  ok you're OK [TS]

  yeah i mean part of the problem is also [TS]

  the people that they're very people get [TS]

  very like not snippy but they're like [TS]

  well I've never seen Seinfeld murderer [TS]

  and like well okay you know I've never [TS]

  been to Paris [TS]

  well who goes next wait have you never [TS]

  been a pair of course I've never been to [TS]

  Paris [TS]

  oh merlin we need to go to Paris no no [TS]

  I've been like four places and I was out [TS]

  of the country a couple times you know [TS]

  let me ask you this [TS]

  yeah between the time you were boarded [TS]

  and the time you graduate from college [TS]

  how many houses did you have [TS]

  oh yeah that's a really good question [TS]

  well okay let me look for a minute set [TS]

  aside college because that was a box one [TS]

  right okay let's let's say the end of [TS]

  high school mostly probably 45 45 [TS]

  yeah I mean we yeah I mean it'sit's long [TS]

  sad story but college man up [TS]

  I can't I didn't excel spreadsheet one [TS]

  day of love where I live [TS]

  that's kind of thing i do I remember [TS]

  like my federal spreadsheet you remember [TS]

  that i can tell you exactly like you can [TS]

  see the trend on the cost of ephedrine [TS]

  ya know you had you had where to buy a [TS]

  federal down to like zip codes [TS]

  yeah I was like that that looks like a [TS]

  crazy in this american life guy like [TS]

  Wright and put his meat stickers in the [TS]

  in the notebook [TS]

  not today the today on the porch with 62 [TS]

  degrees [TS]

  the newspaper in eight ounces you sent [TS]

  me a jar of federal one time and I fear [TS]

  that I lost [TS]

  oh god I would kill for that right now [TS]

  or I fear that it was that it went into [TS]

  some kind of thing works like this is a [TS]

  bottle of undifferentiated pills that [TS]

  i'm not sure what I should have said [TS]

  I've given you some strange strange [TS]

  things [TS]

  yeah you don't have given you cold [TS]

  medicine i given you a faedron I gave [TS]

  you a bag and then a strap for a bag [TS]

  making another bag i think you another [TS]

  guy one time you gave me a few bags i [TS]

  gave you like your mom [TS]

  oh that's you gave me to give her a [TS]

  wallet which ended up being mine [TS]

  unbelievable years a handful of space [TS]

  pens must be so strange to be my friend [TS]

  one time you gave me a like a a little [TS]

  pouch for your cell phone that would [TS]

  strap onto the antennae back to bag so [TS]

  timbuk2 bag was a good that was a good [TS]

  pouch little pouch that and i think that [TS]

  i think actually when you gave me that [TS]

  you said I might want this back but for [TS]

  now let's not do that [TS]

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  to do with it but i can't throw it away [TS]

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  this is this is we talked about this [TS]

  before this is the good box problem [TS]

  yeah exactly right i think like we could [TS]

  put tic tacs in here [TS]

  yeah i could put what else can I put a [TS]

  first-aid kit a tiny perfect what about [TS]

  a sewing kit [TS]

  you know what you could do it would be [TS]

  you know it's small back in your small [TS]

  but if you're like me like I use this [TS]

  packing cubes like I mean loosen my in [TS]

  my suitcase I'm not an animal i got a [TS]

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  i'm a bagman and so on until you are [TS]

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  back tom bombadil but that's a lord of [TS]

  the rings the writers that a habit [TS]

  that's a hobbit no it's not a hobby is [TS]

  that he's like an eternal family and [TS]

  Oakenshield he's got an eternal life and [TS]

  he's confusing enough that they is not [TS]

  he's not been included controversial [TS]

  character not to be [TS]

  ok but i do believe he's been sort of [TS]

  he's been xed out of shit like the [TS]

  poltergeist in harry potter just wasn't [TS]

  room for him there wasn't room for tom [TS]

  bombadil he doesn't advance the [TS]

  narrative and enough for it all [TS]

  yes and I think I think maybe he [TS]

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  enough to to to turn the time [TS]

  ok cell is not a Boromir right you [TS]

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  all know or yeah and forks works [TS]

  yeah right remember the one where where [TS]

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  elbow [TS]

  alright she's a she's not coming here in [TS]

  the mention marriage is a perfect [TS]

  yeah the one where Tom Selleck marries [TS]

  the the Kennedy oh I remember that there [TS]

  was dynasty [TS]

  yeah I remember that time anyway Tom [TS]

  Kenny was that was a game show host is [TS]

  that right [TS]

  Tom Kennedy I think wasn't in the Dirty [TS]

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  Lopez model guitar was a great guitar is [TS]

  it little i know it was big and nobody [TS]

  wanted it because it was weird and then [TS]

  dave grohl started playing them and all [TS]

  of a sudden you can't buy them for any [TS]

  amount of kidding no isn't that weird [TS]

  how that happens yeah it was just like [TS]

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  taking the cool things and making [TS]

  everybody kind of it not a little like [TS]

  and sg4 know it's BS LIC it looks a [TS]

  little bit like an SG that double [TS]

  cutaways ya see but look at the cutaways [TS]

  sharp sharp it looks like it looks like [TS]

  a Japanese guitar that wants to be [TS]

  either an es what is that any s3 [TS]

  combined with Rick it looks like that [TS]

  better than Rick styling to it it's a [TS]

  yeah it's there's a lot going on in a [TS]

  trini lopez it's just a little too sharp [TS]

  for my liking their work up there were a [TS]

  couple of different versions of it there [TS]

  was one that was really sharp and then [TS]

  there was one that was just a 335 body [TS]

  this is weird incident happened it's got [TS]

  a weird week all about the bridge but [TS]

  with the tailpiece it's got a [TS]

  strange-looking tailpiece and it's got [TS]

  all that it's got like a fender type [TS]

  head so the headstock is like yeah from [TS]

  a Firebird and it's got diamond shape of [TS]

  holes anyway nobody wanted him you used [TS]

  to be able to buy these things like [TS]

  homers car that's a reference from the [TS]

  simpsons it was they were like 700 bucks [TS]

  because they just didn't look like a 335 [TS]

  they just look weird right [TS]

  uh by the it to our eyes at the time [TS]

  they just looked strange i never owned [TS]

  one because i thought they were weird i [TS]

  was like ah I don't know shouldn't the [TS]

  f-holes look like f's yeah it's not even [TS]

  that Foles these Namdaemun holes the [TS]

  diamond tools and that's not what you [TS]

  get and though and the 335 with the [TS]

  weird headstock like I saw one time I [TS]

  saw a guy play a show you the the [TS]

  the the bass player of the Soundgarden's [TS]

  who had a band called hater and hater [TS]

  was an extremely good band i highly [TS]

  recommend if you can find haters first [TS]

  album that you get it because it's [TS]

  awesome [TS]

  hater but he was the lead singer of [TS]

  hater and he had a 10 I saw him at play [TS]

  a show one time we had a telecaster with [TS]

  a Fender neck [TS]

  I'm sorry a telecaster with a Gibson [TS]

  neck what a telecaster with the gibson [TS]

  neck now just picture it for a second [TS]

  and it was so wrong looking at it wasn't [TS]

  cool right you want to think oh that's [TS]

  cool [TS]

  it sounds like something your death but [TS]

  when someone's dad would make for them [TS]

  well you know it's not that wide at the [TS]

  widest fretboard it's got the the tuning [TS]

  pegs on either side big had started [TS]

  stock [TS]

  uh yeah it does it sounds like something [TS]

  that on Christmas morning you'd open up [TS]

  the wrapping [TS]

  he's like you wanted to get our feet are [TS]

  you got me a guitar and then you open it [TS]

  up and it's a it's a telecaster with a [TS]

  Gibson neck and it was just I was [TS]

  through the entire show i could not I [TS]

  could not eat I couldn't even get into [TS]

  the music because i was just looking at [TS]

  this guitar like no no no no no the neck [TS]

  is too heavy for the body know the [TS]

  square doesn't work with the round no [TS]

  sure jack use to refuse to refuse so you [TS]

  know but now I look at guitar I'm like [TS]

  oh god why didn't I by six of those yep [TS]

  i could someone for five grand [TS]

  yeah yeah you can ask anything for for [TS]

  stuff that's true you're asking 5 grand [TS]

  and getting five grand different store [TS]

  uh we got a lot of threads here magic [TS]

  guitars what were we talking about yeah [TS]

  you're what's special gift right so wewe [TS]

  did you have you thought more about [TS]

  obviously thought more about it [TS]

  have you arrived at an answer my special [TS]

  gift I mean this is so [TS]

  I wanted the 2a I wanted to be good at [TS]

  Magic right like so many of us who grew [TS]

  up in the seventies it seemed like magic [TS]

  is everywhere [TS]

  yeah and if you wanted to end up at [TS]

  somebody who wore a ruffled shirt and a [TS]

  big bow tie and maybe was on late-night [TS]

  television with rich little [TS]

  uh-huh it magic might be the way into [TS]

  that world right and I just wanted you [TS]

  know it seemed even now to be Ricky J [TS]

  and to be able to just go anywhere in [TS]

  the world with the deck of cards right [TS]

  and amazing to light people [TS]

  yeah I wouldn't that be wonderful but it [TS]

  requires that you practice and you have [TS]

  now what that's the problem I special [TS]

  and that's what does you see I'm if [TS]

  you're like me see I I think Ricky J is [TS]

  kind of like the he is to magic and I [TS]

  feel like him with magic and about [TS]

  krautrock or sometimes I enjoy it but [TS]

  I'm Way more interested in learning [TS]

  about it so like I love learning about [TS]

  Ricky Jay I watch every Ricky J [TS]

  documenting and I love his performances [TS]

  to like the documentaries he just spends [TS]

  hours a day [TS]

  shuffling cards that's what he does [TS]

  that's his thing although he has a [TS]

  mirror ever seen these in he just sits [TS]

  there and just does gorgeous things with [TS]

  cards all day long it's what he does [TS]

  yeah he's also really smart well see [TS]

  Matt and the that's confusing to me [TS]

  right he's really smart and he shuffles [TS]

  cards all day right it seems like a [TS]

  disconnect and I guess for me I all [TS]

  nobody ever explained to me that being a [TS]

  that being kind of good at everything as [TS]

  opposed to really good at one thing that [TS]

  that was actually a goal to have that [TS]

  that was something that you could shoot [TS]

  for and it turns out that my instinct is [TS]

  to be kind of good at everything we've [TS]

  talked about this before you can go deep [TS]

  on nothing go why don't I totally agree [TS]

  but but that's not a thing that there's [TS]

  really that much useful there's only a [TS]

  few people that are allowed to be public [TS]

  figures that are famous for that you [TS]

  have your George's Plimpton [TS]

  yeah you have your your your gorgeous [TS]

  videl I guess [TS]

  well and see this is this is the thing [TS]

  it's a very rich wasp being to be that's [TS]

  true it's a privilege thing [TS]

  yeah if you you know if you [TS]

  can just sit around and and and learn a [TS]

  little bit of everything isn't that nice [TS]

  for you but the rest of us have to get a [TS]

  job then you're always you're skating up [TS]

  against that word nobody likes della [TS]

  tante Oh dilettante right c-list right [TS]

  somebody who's uh who's pretty maybe [TS]

  broad pretty shallow and and that is a [TS]

  legitimate thing to be good at alpine [TS]

  math I'm in a sense an autodidact [TS]

  there's almost and i think you and i [TS]

  both are that might be good at words and [TS]

  good at word so so I mean one thing if [TS]

  if you say okay what are you good at [TS]

  it's like well all right arm that on any [TS]

  topic I can be [TS]

  conversent you cannot really throw at [TS]

  you or me a thing that we wouldn't have [TS]

  something to say about it even if and [TS]

  when it's not like we profess to know [TS]

  no but like you've heard something about [TS]

  everything I've heard something about [TS]

  everything if somebody says oh I am you [TS]

  know I work with bats i will say oh [TS]

  that's interesting have you ever heard [TS]

  of the bats that live under the bridge [TS]

  in austin and of course they have and [TS]

  now we're talking about it right and [TS]

  that is a whatever it is right it but [TS]

  it's but it's a I mean you could say [TS]

  it's a gift your gift gifted [TS]

  conversation list but that seems like [TS]

  something that a rich wife would you say [TS]

  about like the wife of a congressman I [TS]

  know [TS]

  yes you're right right and that is [TS]

  something that I maybe I would be good [TS]

  at idea the wife of an ambassador I [TS]

  would be a great wife of an ambassador [TS]

  you would be such a great wife you know [TS]

  you can be very polite you can you can [TS]

  definitely seemed like a really good [TS]

  listener and you know which for m1 sure [TS]

  and you know which fork to use a lot of [TS]

  the time most of the time you work from [TS]

  the outside in [TS]

  but so I'm let's say let's say my uh my [TS]

  network let's call her my wife [TS]

  let's say she is the ambassador to [TS]

  France mm and I am her wife she little [TS]

  bit like a short kind of Jewish yeah she [TS]

  might be a little zaftig who but she's a [TS]

  great ambassador and she's working all [TS]

  the time doing ambassadorial things [TS]

  and i am hosting galas [TS]

  and i am hosting galas [TS]

  sure you know what i'm wearing a very [TS]

  becoming close and everyone who comes in [TS]

  and make them feel comfortable and I you [TS]

  know and I direct them to the the [TS]

  conversations that I feel like they [TS]

  would be interested in and I laughs [TS]

  appreciatively at their stories and I [TS]

  say oh you know a no this is the Duke of [TS]

  Ellington and here's that you know [TS]

  there's the count basie and aren't they [TS]

  aren't they [TS]

  spectacular let's talk about pop music [TS]

  like I'd be I'd be spectacular that but [TS]

  again it's a it's a job that doesn't [TS]

  that's not really a job right we don't [TS]

  appreciate ambassadors wives like we [TS]

  should and and that's not a that there's [TS]

  no job description for that except maybe [TS]

  podcaster but that was again as you say [TS]

  doesn't even seem like a job [TS]

  mhm not a real job now I I aspire I used [TS]

  to I used to think that I was really [TS]

  smart and in certain contexts like that [TS]

  could be the trees are not very smart [TS]

  I'm I'm fast I'm not smart i'm fast [TS]

  sometimes on a good day i'm clever the [TS]

  thing in the over the years that i also [TS]

  am proud of but something that I a I'll [TS]

  tell you what an aspiration of which i [TS]

  am proud is that I do aspire to be [TS]

  increasingly curious and I think that's [TS]

  a good aspiration now it is merely an [TS]

  inspiration i'm not as secure as I could [TS]

  be [TS]

  I said I remember a friend gave me a [TS]

  book about the juggalo street just for [TS]

  once or the Juggalos you're just talking [TS]

  about the juggalos and he gave me a book [TS]

  about understanding jugglers don't you [TS]

  understand them better have been cracked [TS]

  it [TS]

  I'm gonna it's their trip on my keys you [TS]

  know I feel like I understand them a lot [TS]

  better from having met George the dragon [TS]

  or whoever whoever that was impressive [TS]

  John who is that uh no judge the dragon [TS]

  steamboat so I didn't I tell you about [TS]

  this I I was hosting a series of [TS]

  conversations up here at bumbershoot who [TS]

  a couple years ago and I invited the [TS]

  dragon and I think he spells it [TS]

  r AG aan maybe who had who had directed [TS]

  his first film was a film about juggalos [TS]

  he himself is a juggalo and he wanted to [TS]

  dispel some of the misconceptions by [TS]

  doing a film about juggalos so he his [TS]

  name is the dragon right i think i don't [TS]

  remember exactly and then I on the other [TS]

  side of the panel i invited a a brownie [TS]

  who were the brownies were really in the [TS]

  news at the time everybody was talking [TS]

  about bronies yeah and this man [TS]

  presented himself as the world's [TS]

  manliest brownie he was a [TS]

  harley-davidson mechanic somewhere in [TS]

  the Midwest and also an avid brownie and [TS]

  so we bumbershoot flew them both out to [TS]

  have this big discussion with me and and [TS]

  it was a full house in a auditorium and [TS]

  we started talking about juggalos and [TS]

  brownies and both guys kind of gave [TS]

  their like you know the gym the dragon [TS]

  was just exactly as you would imagine [TS]

  juggalo it was like juggalos killer and [TS]

  awesome but will and then the world's [TS]

  manliest brownie was dead serious about [TS]

  brownie ism and how it makes everything [TS]

  better in the world and then it opened [TS]

  up to questions in the audience and [TS]

  right away I understood that there was [TS]

  tremendous hostility towards juggalos in [TS]

  the in the assembled crowd and hostility [TS]

  towards juggalos not just from young [TS]

  people but especially from older members [TS]

  of the crowd who were well-informed [TS]

  liberal people and so there were all [TS]

  these questions like how do you uh how [TS]

  do you respond to this and then [TS]

  extensive quoting of insane clown posse [TS]

  lyrics that were violent and misogynist [TS]

  and the dragon you know kind of was like [TS]

  yeah well that's the thing and I mean [TS]

  there's both temperature and then after [TS]

  a while it became kind of clear that he [TS]

  was under siege and I was moderating but [TS]

  you know to a certain extent like people [TS]

  would stand up and say I have a question [TS]

  for both guys and it's like okay let's [TS]

  hear from you and then they say well how [TS]

  the general reply to the following [TS]

  accusations was like wait a minute wait [TS]

  a minute wait a minute let's have some [TS]

  requests have you know everybody settle [TS]

  down but then the dragon made this kind [TS]

  of eloquent within two juggalo [TS]

  vernacular defense of juggalos by saying [TS]

  look there are all these mixed up kids [TS]

  in the world who can live live in [TS]

  violent drug addicted circumstances and [TS]

  we attract them the Insane Clown Posse [TS]

  attracts them by speaking to these [TS]

  matters and by but you know by [TS]

  presenting this kind of ugly reality [TS]

  which makes these damaged people feel [TS]

  like they're speaking the truth and then [TS]

  once they're in the juggalo family we [TS]

  domesticate them with our family [TS]

  mutually supportive love five that we [TS]

  have and in a way we are like we r d [TS]

  feigning this entire generation of angry [TS]

  damaged like violent kids who by you [TS]

  know by offering them a safe place in [TS]

  the world and up and up [TS]

  you know a pink cloud went across the [TS]

  audience and everybody was like huh [TS]

  and you should see people kind of [TS]

  looking at the floor and nodding their [TS]

  heads and wondering tornado black people [TS]

  nodding uh i think it feels like it was [TS]

  a Seattle event there we shall share a [TS]

  few black people change a couple of [TS]

  those nouns around and you can get away [TS]

  with anything with that pitch well yeah [TS]

  but but in and that's the thing right [TS]

  like everybody was nodding not in [TS]

  agreement but like did a general just [TS]

  score a point here right now I the bars [TS]

  low so yeah I mean sure about 10 points [TS]

  to juggle oh yeah are we try are we now [TS]

  forced to confront the idea that that [TS]

  juggling that the Gathering is some kind [TS]

  of sit some kind of peace situation and [TS]

  not just not just a thing where a guy [TS]

  will cut off his own lips for fourteen [TS]

  dollars just to show people that he can [TS]

  uh i would ask for [TS]

  little more than no I mean there are you [TS]

  gonna drink your faygo well I think you [TS]

  just did something strong shotgun it it [TS]

  take it into your nose i don't know i'm [TS]

  not a juggalo know but in the end in the [TS]

  end i have to say that the dragon was [TS]

  the more sympathetic of the to not [TS]

  because not because juggalo ism is more [TS]

  attractive than brownie ism but just [TS]

  because they're but because of the [TS]

  degree of self seriousness that was on [TS]

  display [TS]

  ok I mean he's not he the juggalo was [TS]

  not claiming that juggalo ism is going [TS]

  to sweep the nation and become the new [TS]

  way that we interact with one another [TS]

  and here is the brownie really was [TS]

  pushing that angle a little bit more i [TS]

  don't but i don't want to revisit that [TS]

  that whole panel but you learned a [TS]

  lesson about love I learned a lesson [TS]

  about it by about tolerance and [TS]

  acceptance [TS]

  yeah yeah maybe maybe I mean it's hard [TS]

  to be tolerant of a of people that are [TS]

  that are ugly [TS]

  it's mm harder it's there's something [TS]

  i'm not a very logical thinker but [TS]

  something in the little logic closet of [TS]

  my mind [TS]

  rings a little bit when we try to find [TS]

  the way to show how one person in the [TS]

  group didn't get treated as well as we [TS]

  would like [TS]

  and therefore things so I'm i mean i [TS]

  feel you could do that with practically [TS]

  any group because we're all sympathetic [TS]

  for people especially sympathetic for [TS]

  young people we are any decent humane [TS]

  person is very sympathetic but for any [TS]

  young person who feels like an outsider [TS]

  but but also i guess i feel like i'm a [TS]

  little i want to be somewhat careful [TS]

  about organizations that find ways to [TS]

  explain their ethos by saying we help [TS]

  outsiders feel like they fit in [TS]

  yeah but I thought part of that a [TS]

  hundred percent by but again all I'm [TS]

  saying is you just you change some of [TS]

  those around not the same name any names [TS]

  here but there's a whole lot of things [TS]

  that you could say you know well it's [TS]

  you know it's not really about states [TS]

  rights about youth pride that's true [TS]

  that's true but there's I [TS]

  that you know I in traveling around [TS]

  America and in reading the news [TS]

  ravu over time you are forced to [TS]

  confront the reality that there are you [TS]

  know there are a lot of situations where [TS]

  you can't even you can't even fathom [TS]

  here you'll never be able to fathom did [TS]

  you read the thing of the day where [TS]

  where dad a dad with seven kids came [TS]

  into the room playing with his gun and [TS]

  like pretend pow-pow-pow no to his seven [TS]

  kids and killed his four-year-old [TS]

  daughter [TS]

  uh-huh a like bang bang bang pow and [TS]

  shot her right in the head and then took [TS]

  like wiped his hand in her blood wiped [TS]

  the blood across the face of his [TS]

  five-year-old slapped her in the face [TS]

  and said you did that and then ran and [TS]

  when the police arrived the initial [TS]

  story was that this five-year-old had [TS]

  killed her four-year-old sister and [TS]

  that's the one that that a good morning [TS]

  america ran with and so for a couple of [TS]

  days [TS]

  the story was this family tragedy until [TS]

  until the guy that dad finally walked [TS]

  into a police station because they were [TS]

  searching all over for him why did he [TS]

  run right and then and initially denied [TS]

  it and blamed it on his own other [TS]

  daughter and then the police were like [TS]

  wait a minute you seem a little bit not [TS]

  that cool and eventually confessed and [TS]

  it's like in watching that the oj [TS]

  simpson series that I've been kind of [TS]

  guilty watching I mean there's just one [TS]

  piece of evidence that pops up in that [TS]

  evidence is one piece of testimony [TS]

  that's so interesting which is that when [TS]

  they this i'm not an opinion one way or [TS]

  another pretty interesting when they [TS]

  called oj simpson to say that his [TS]

  ex-wife that he had very strong feelings [TS]

  about was dead he didn't ask how she [TS]

  died [TS]

  yeah and the thing is in that case you [TS]

  know if your five-year-old just shot [TS]

  your other kids it seems like you would [TS]

  more than anything you want to be there [TS]

  to like us out what's going on and it [TS]

  seems like you but but but what's [TS]

  interesting about that story too [TS]

  he is not the dad right like I whatever [TS]

  fuck that guy [TS]

  the that the terrible thing is that that [TS]

  five-year-old will one baby a [TS]

  twenty-five-year-old and how we could [TS]

  ever know how we could ever think about [TS]

  her challenges entering adult life [TS]

  absolutely you know and you just go ah [TS]

  there is no social service agency there [TS]

  is no church there is no let me not that [TS]

  many talk about groups know who her [TS]

  peers who exactly who's she gonna be [TS]

  exactly who is you know like apparently [TS]

  a Gary Ridgeway the Green Green River [TS]

  Killer Green River Killer apparently he [TS]

  has a child you know apparently Bundy [TS]

  fathered a child with somebody like [TS]

  these are people whose life experiences [TS]

  not is not comparable and and so and [TS]

  these are just like the ones that popped [TS]

  in mind but all across America there are [TS]

  and around the world there are people [TS]

  who have witnessed and been subjected to [TS]

  horrors that I just don't have any that [TS]

  there's no place for them to go and feel [TS]

  like anybody is ever going to get them [TS]

  and it's so different from from the our [TS]

  contemporary culture where everybody's a [TS]

  victim the there are really people who [TS]

  are who I mean what were she's 25 years [TS]

  old and a lot of the time I mean I dated [TS]

  a girl who had who had a on awful awful [TS]

  childhood [TS]

  yeah uh and she's an amazing person and [TS]

  an amazing mother like she overcame but [TS]

  but but how do you [TS]

  there's no institutional solution to [TS]

  that stuff you can't say if we had more [TS]

  money if the if Congress put more money [TS]

  into social services then then these [TS]

  people would be healed me and that's the [TS]

  whole thing I mean like it's easy to say [TS]

  fuck that guy or whatever but like and [TS]

  you know that that probably could have [TS]

  gone better but like also know that guy [TS]

  you think he meant to do that like the [TS]

  initiating incident I'm sorry to show [TS]

  empathy for somebody who is horrible [TS]

  but like imagine how that guy felt like [TS]

  I don't get that all the time like what [TS]

  if you leave your kid in the car [TS]

  there's all these kinds of things feel [TS]

  like you know it's game over yeah he [TS]

  accidentally shot his kid the most awful [TS]

  thing that could possibly happen to a [TS]

  person and it is in any panicked his [TS]

  fucked-up panic reaction was to look [TS]

  around and say here's a story that might [TS]

  work but then like he actually punished [TS]

  the he actually slapped and hit the [TS]

  five-year-old both to put blood on her [TS]

  and also like in some way to convince [TS]

  himself and the five-year-old that she [TS]

  was actually culpable like he's [TS]

  importantly and convincing himself like [TS]

  you did this pow right i mean broken guy [TS]

  but also he just shot is our daughter [TS]

  and then imagine what it ending in white [TS]

  man you know imagine imagine his wife [TS]

  comes home from work and she's probably [TS]

  supporting the family [TS]

  given the fact that he's there during [TS]

  the day shooting his kids she comes [TS]

  someone at you know like and this is the [TS]

  news there's TV cameras out front so [TS]

  compared to the worst thing that's ever [TS]

  happened to me [TS]

  there's no comparison right and I'm you [TS]

  know I'm not fit to judge so the jungle [TS]

  of guys telling me this story and i'm [TS]

  thinking about all these kids in [TS]

  Murphysboro Tennessee who's you know [TS]

  whose parents are like feeding them pop [TS]

  rocks and you know and disciplining them [TS]

  with a tractor and I just go well i [TS]

  don't know i don't it's me it's me I got [TS]

  nothing here [TS]

  yeah you know i got i guess i got [TS]

  disciplined by my mom going in a room [TS]

  and shutting the door [TS]

  stopping a choice since topping on my [TS]

  doors which had a lasting effect [TS]

  uh-huh maybe it's why I my house is full [TS]

  of toys now a little interesting and how [TS]

  to make you feel is what maybe that's [TS]

  why I collect on wrapped I'm sorry i [TS]

  well why collect still in box star wars [TS]

  figures [TS]

  hmm i don't really know can you tell me [TS]

  why the original Luke Skywalker Star [TS]

  Wars speak [TS]

  your had such a weird lightsaber little [TS]

  yellow one [TS]

  well you know the the one that where the [TS]

  lightsaber halfway up got smaller was a [TS]

  terrible designers and every kid help [TS]

  remotely well either broke offer bit off [TS]

  there was nothing more satisfying than [TS]

  biting the to my only note says perfect [TS]

  providing my OB one is is as the the end [TS]

  rip I ripped off of my Luke still has [TS]

  the full lightsaber today did you mean [TS]

  survived from when you were trouble [TS]

  summer of nineteen seventy-seven sent [TS]

  from kantar in the box you get you [TS]

  preorder it you get Luke r2d2 Princess [TS]

  Leia and i want to say to bacha I still [TS]

  high still have Luke still has his [TS]

  lightsaber did you also did you also get [TS]

  like a pepsi glass that had Sylvester [TS]

  the cat ornament that are be sure I'm [TS]

  not an animal up but you still have [TS]

  those big no-no uuid wasn't interrupt [TS]

  you when your husband's house but no let [TS]

  me write down memory lane because I i [TS]

  gobbled up my favorite wishes am manish [TS]

  exam one that I like to like Captain [TS]

  Marvel i had i think I'd like kool Kat I [TS]

  didn't really know what kool Kat was but [TS]

  had a cool cat class wasn't he the [TS]

  kiddos cap [TS]

  oh I think that's cheeto the cat you're [TS]

  thinking of okie dokie i love those [TS]

  those are great classes they were really [TS]

  and they're hearty those glasses the [TS]

  glasses like Latin and Aquaman that I [TS]

  loved and those glasses lasted into the [TS]

  nineties i was i remember going up to [TS]

  college and my friends were still like [TS]

  my friend Alan always got the Aquaman [TS]

  glass [TS]

  oh he would you take it down from your [TS]

  shelf did you ever have your own glasses [TS]

  and your own things at places like my [TS]

  grandparents always had a certain cup [TS]

  that I was it would use well I never [TS]

  went to very many other people's houses [TS]

  where they would have things like I had [TS]

  no grandparents no submission invite you [TS]

  to a conference [TS]

  yeah you know she smashed my toys in the [TS]

  closet [TS]

  you know I last two years ago was it two [TS]

  years ago I went to the conference on [TS]

  world affairs right and I felt like a [TS]

  really big wheel this two years ago I [TS]

  felt so good i was there at the [TS]

  conference on world affairs there with [TS]

  generals and scientists and and and old [TS]

  people basically everybody there was old [TS]

  except me and I was like this is it now [TS]

  I'm going to be comments on world [TS]

  affairs guy I'm gonna go every year [TS]

  yep event when I die they're gonna say [TS]

  he went to 40 conferences on world [TS]

  affairs and and was you know a treasure [TS]

  member of the community and then they [TS]

  did not invite me back [TS]

  yeah and sometime between last year when [TS]

  they didn't invite me back and now they [TS]

  realized that that the internet and [TS]

  email was not going to go away it was [TS]

  here to stay and so they compile the [TS]

  list of conference on world affairs to [TS]

  attendees and started sending them a [TS]

  compliment world affairs spam emails but [TS]

  they put you on the list to put me on [TS]

  the list [TS]

  oh that's emeriti and so the comments on [TS]

  world affairs just happened this past [TS]

  week and every day there was a like [TS]

  today in conference on world affairs [TS]

  news and thanks so much everyone and [TS]

  you're the past and here's where you can [TS]

  donate and all this and i'm just like [TS]

  fuck you a thousand times like I am NOT [TS]

  a enthusiastic Congress on world affairs [TS]

  alum i am a bitterly disappointed i [TS]

  think you're disgruntled John I'm [TS]

  disgruntled you know of all the things [TS]

  of all the places that I felt like I [TS]

  belonged [TS]

  finally someone had recognized that I [TS]

  belonged at a conference on world [TS]

  affairs [TS]

  maybe you were too real for them you're [TS]

  thought of that I feel like what they [TS]

  thought what they thought was that I was [TS]

  gonna that i was going to sing for my [TS]

  supper i was going to come and the [TS]

  generals and the and the captains of [TS]

  industry and the Titans we're going to [TS]

  at the end of the day [TS]

  relax to me shuckin and jivin with my [TS]

  guitar with a bunch of other a [TS]

  like the guitar players and that that [TS]

  was where I belong [TS]

  this is free with this for you played [TS]

  with the band yeah man and I can i turn [TS]

  my volume on my guitar all the way there [TS]

  because way no idea what they were doing [TS]

  right i love the stories they were [TS]

  jazzing and I'd write chance and so they [TS]

  don't know how to diminish anything but [TS]

  iono I the only thing I know how to [TS]

  diminish is other people at the cocktail [TS]

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