Roderick on the Line

Ep. 209: "Keep the Lines Right"


  [Music] [TS]

  hello hi john i'm marilyn is going [TS]

  pretty good pretty good reap was that [TS]

  deuce wasn't that needle come across a [TS]

  record reap rape no but speaking records [TS]

  today is the 10-year anniversary of the [TS]

  release of putting the days to bed the [TS]

  long winters most recent album [TS]

  mm that's not possible ten years and [TS]

  long winter [TS]

  oh i just got an email about it i still [TS]

  think that is your new record [TS]

  yeah i know it is the move that get [TS]

  technically that's that was ten years [TS]

  went by pretty quick yeah 10 years 10 [TS]

  years well you know one of the reasons [TS]

  that went by so fast is that they [TS]

  invented Twitter somewhere in the middle [TS]

  there [TS]

  uh-huh and then we were all just we're [TS]

  all just pastoralist before that just [TS]

  want around our fields tending are cheap [TS]

  and then we became digital digital's at [TS]

  first we just stopped attending the [TS]

  sheep as well yeah right [TS]

  the the herd was still there is the [TS]

  scented stationery paper [TS]

  mhm know the parlor the parlor part of a [TS]

  lot of time in the parlor yeah [TS]

  tapping out my pipe onto my brass pipe [TS]

  stand [TS]

  tap-tap-tap huh brass pipe stand with [TS]

  them but my you know put a little marker [TS]

  in my book and lay it down on the [TS]

  bedside table and then go upstairs to my [TS]

  steam-operated computer and log on to [TS]

  Twitter oh I'll someone hacked the form [TS]

  again I would see my few friends there [TS]

  that I thought were amusing [TS]

  mhm then mhm [TS]

  wave after wave [TS]

  hmm zombies yeah blood [TS]

  I am NOT super awake yet [TS]

  no me either this might be this might be [TS]

  a fairly pastoral episode I was very [TS]

  much in the process of waking up what [TS]

  this seems unusual that you would show [TS]

  up to the show in the same state that i [TS]

  have to show you [TS]

  yea-ah throat I yeah I've been listening [TS]

  to a cappella music which is you know [TS]

  it's calming me down [TS]

  mmm i may be just a coincidence but last [TS]

  night I worked pretty hard and have yet [TS]

  to succeed at getting my ringtone to be [TS]

  an acapella selection [TS]

  Oh any help with that I hope that can [TS]

  you uh huh yeah I don't know how to do [TS]

  it [TS]

  I innocence downloaded two apps called [TS]

  ringtone apps neither thing can help me [TS]

  I have to go back to the mainframe no [TS]

  notice we have to rewrite the encryption [TS]

  now i'm in okay and I don't don't want [TS]

  to do any of those i hate computers [TS]

  Maryland i'm very frustrated by them [TS]

  they're awful [TS]

  I don't talk about John but I'm not done [TS]

  that such a fan myself [TS]

  they're really awful yeah and so every [TS]

  the last two or three days has been it [TS]

  just seems like there's been a real [TS]

  uptick in in like everywhere you go on [TS]

  the internet now they are rude like [TS]

  everywhere you go something pops up in [TS]

  front of you hear you're expected to [TS]

  login i went on to and I did not mean to [TS]

  do this but I went on to pinterest on [TS]

  ice on a phone on a phone and the only [TS]

  thinking every furnishing your mood [TS]

  board i was somebody was saying like I [TS]

  want to I want a what was it [TS]

  oh they wanted the start somebody they [TS]

  were interested in small house culture [TS]

  mm you very hip too small house culture [TS]

  yeah i think so i think is in there look [TS]

  at that there's a TV show about it and [TS]

  it's a common of a regular feature on [TS]

  our local website you know the chronicle [TS]

  website that there because everything's [TS]

  horrible here and people are trying to [TS]

  live in like three hundred places [TS]

  smaller than my office families are [TS]

  living in you know like these little [TS]

  hipster cyber hobbles yeah yeah that was [TS]

  which are like the appeal of them i [TS]

  think the people is that you can [TS]

  organize everything you can kern knoll [TS]

  oh you gotta go ya Nolan board for that [TS]

  they have a whole pinterest page about [TS]

  my different knowing boards you [TS]

  yeah was actually the swedish word for a [TS]

  buffet [TS]

  why do people leave the chaos of it are [TS]

  pretty sure it's controlled to know [TS]

  yeah but a but yeah they like it feels [TS]

  it absolutely appeals to a certain [TS]

  sensibility you as a RV owner get this a [TS]

  little bit i have a friend who lives on [TS]

  a boat [TS]

  there's a certain you know you your life [TS]

  has to change when you live on a boat [TS]

  mm I mean have you known people live on [TS]

  boats it's a very different experience i [TS]

  have i've known people who lived on [TS]

  boats i went to a college went to a [TS]

  college with a guy who graduated from [TS]

  college he went and bought instead of [TS]

  renting his first apartment he bought [TS]

  like a really dilapidated old enormous [TS]

  motoryacht like the kind of motor yacht [TS]

  that that maybe FDR would have had a [TS]

  summit with the Tojo on although i don't [TS]

  think you ever met you know like a 1935 [TS]

  chris-craft 49 foot all what all would [TS]

  he can afford that it would have to be [TS]

  in horrible condition it was in horrible [TS]

  condition [TS]

  I mean I was a kid to me uh you know [TS]

  there's a certain things that are like [TS]

  the canonical example of like fanciness [TS]

  like a mercedes benz car [TS]

  Baked Alaska desert 40 foot yacht Oscars [TS]

  or feller [TS]

  yes right on Oscars or feller was about [TS]

  something that you only heard fancy [TS]

  people or try to get spinach and pearls [TS]

  well but two things you have to remember [TS]

  in 1991 like 1936 a dilapidated 1936 [TS]

  motoryacht 40-foot motoryacht 49 foot I [TS]

  think super-big that you know there was [TS]

  no there was no culture like there is [TS]

  now where everything is expensive it was [TS]

  just like oh right i mean people want is [TS]

  ruined the dollar was strong people [TS]

  weren't as rude as the dollar was strong [TS]

  but like in Seattle you could buy in [TS]

  1991 you could buy a house in the [TS]

  central district for like sixty thousand [TS]

  dollars so now that houses were 760,000 [TS]

  dollars so just apply retroactively Lee [TS]

  that same inflation deflation to get [TS]

  three or four 4944 probably about about [TS]

  60 bucks [TS]

  I mean it was I don't know I don't know [TS]

  how I don't know what you paid for but [TS]

  it's and handling fees if was cheap and [TS]

  also the the the other thing people [TS]

  forget about boats is that they are [TS]

  constantly changing hands because every [TS]

  spring somebody every spring you know a [TS]

  thousand people are like I want a boat [TS]

  and they buy a boat and then they [TS]

  realize it's a expensive leaky yeah scro [TS]

  smelling pole in the water it's like [TS]

  investing in entropy like II everything [TS]

  in your life is breaking a little bit [TS]

  all the time because really accelerated [TS]

  on public even if you are really really [TS]

  good about everything and you polish the [TS]

  brass and you keep the lines you know [TS]

  right and everything it's the Brask you [TS]

  get a learner's right but but but that's [TS]

  just that stuff that master and [TS]

  commander shouts that is the sound of [TS]

  the waves [TS]

  that's right you want to have the get to [TS]

  get the sails up you get them isn't [TS]

  mizzenmast bows and you get the whistle [TS]

  back elbows in the Wizzle back i can [TS]

  also like I used to but that no it'sit's [TS]

  I I have had several people in my life [TS]

  who lived on boats the father [TS]

  my primary lady friend in the nineties i [TS]

  lived on a boat and it was really it was [TS]

  quite interesting [TS]

  it was you know it's you know in a way [TS]

  it's a little bit like today we've got [TS]

  these uh this is I'm still waking up [TS]

  like we think about like okay this trash [TS]

  goes in the trash trash goes in the [TS]

  recycling the stretch goes in the [TS]

  compost you get we have three different [TS]

  giant receptacles for that and on a boat [TS]

  you've got like about as much trash room [TS]

  as you do at like a Hampton Inn like you [TS]

  don't you don't you can't have stuff you [TS]

  have to have like one of this thing that [TS]

  does lots of things you can have your [TS]

  DVD collection and stuff like that [TS]

  no you have to have one tool yeah one [TS]

  tool that's a screwdriver a saw [TS]

  bosun's mate both to get a buzz and mast [TS]

  buddy but I guess I'm trying to say is [TS]

  it's not since it is obviously hugely [TS]

  based on the amount of space you have [TS]

  which is next to nothing but if you want [TS]

  to be able to move around at all and [TS]

  then it's the accommodations and [TS]

  sacrifices like you have to have room [TS]

  for those tools like you don't you don't [TS]

  have you stuffed animal collection or [TS]

  something like that right well and and I [TS]

  think the key like my RV for instance [TS]

  you know I i was driving around it [TS]

  yesterday and and then I parked in front [TS]

  of the house and you know i'll drive [TS]

  around its next weekend or two weekends [TS]

  from now you know you getting the RV [TS]

  when you feel like it you go putter [TS]

  around that's be the RV that's the [TS]

  beauty of it but when you have a boat if [TS]

  you leave it unattended for two weeks [TS]

  maybe it's sink [TS]

  uh-huh maybe it's full of water rats now [TS]

  maybe you know like it the nature is [TS]

  more actively trying to kill a boat than [TS]

  any other thing I've been told by our [TS]

  mutual friend John Stark he said that [TS]

  the the greatest enemy of a homeowner is [TS]

  moisture and if you think about that [TS]

  your house is literally in water you [TS]

  know and it's not nice water usually its [TS]

  water its water that you basically [TS]

  you're sitting in a big piece of wood in [TS]

  water so that just just to start let [TS]

  alone keeping the brass shiny you know [TS]

  they're keep the brush I'm keeping a lot [TS]

  what does it keep the lines clean right [TS]

  yeah people's writing from I hold field [TS]

  momentous to keep the lines right people [TS]

  lives [TS]

  I mean not that seems like something you [TS]

  should have on a t-shirt keep the lines [TS]

  right ones right well you might be [TS]

  something start trying to polish the [TS]

  brass and keep the lines right keep the [TS]

  lines right [TS]

  Star Trek Sanders that a ship sound I [TS]

  just made what you just made was the [TS]

  star trek or door openings but but we're [TS]

  thinking of that is that buzzing missile [TS]

  at suppose the middle as a business [TS]

  model that way to do more songs about [TS]

  ships motion visual mr. Ferris do it now [TS]

  keep the tracks and that's what they're [TS]

  there for [TS]

  Charlie bird should keep your arms right [TS]

  not December sound that was the [TS]

  decemberists yeah I believe that your [TS]

  little something like this [TS]

  corazon lyrics in his Twitter bio I [TS]

  don't know I haven't looked at collins [TS]

  Twitter bio and well okay I you know [TS]

  nothing would surprise me who we really [TS]

  are in a very very subdued have you had [TS]

  coffee at two coffees and two coffees [TS]

  and and and some pharmacists [TS]

  over-the-counter uh pharmacist for most [TS]

  used to be we would tend our herd [TS]

  yeah right i had some I had some of my [TS]

  friends recently introduced me to this [TS]

  sinus medicine so that gives me a little [TS]

  little energy but it has really kicked [TS]

  in yet [TS]

  be careful about listened acapella music [TS]

  it really really threw me off [TS]

  I used to sit at my at my feet frame [TS]

  computer [TS]

  mmm [TS]

  and do my tweet out there in the cold [TS]

  room set up there at the desk shit lines [TS]

  are right i would log on group or [TS]

  daughter we call handshaking and what is [TS]

  that handshaking in this when the [TS]

  mothers are talking to each other [TS]

  working some things out [TS]

  remember them the website will go to the [TS]

  website of Twitter and start to load you [TS]

  get coffee come back 20 minutes later [TS]

  and then I'd go on there and I read all [TS]

  the tweets that have been tweeted the [TS]

  following day when I all 20 of them huh [TS]

  and I would have I we go haha oh that [TS]

  person is amusing their run went quite [TS]

  well and then I was at thai food sounds [TS]

  quite toothsome I would put my hands [TS]

  together and a problem here we go here [TS]

  we go crack my knuckles on but the [TS]

  fingertips to the keyboard and say what [TS]

  witnesses haha hosted a lame-o shust [TS]

  could you pick it looking to you you big [TS]

  all those were the halcyon days [TS]

  uh-huh tweeting but then like all drugs [TS]

  uh-huh like teeth fell out yeah cheek [TS]

  sunk my seeks chunk week's challenge [TS]

  living on a boat can keep the lines [TS]

  right all of a sudden everything smells [TS]

  like mold and I have my greatest enemy [TS]

  is moisture i like i like the smell in [TS]

  your RV my family does not i like it i [TS]

  didn't notice it [TS]

  my family did I like the smell it smells [TS]

  like the seventies your talk about the [TS]

  motor oil and the the nascent it's gonna [TS]

  it's gonna it's gonna kind of enduring [TS]

  moist aspect [TS]

  mmm yeah I mean I guess every single [TS]

  kind of list thing about small houses [TS]

  yeah right my friend was saying small [TS]

  houses are what this is like this is the [TS]

  future and and so they were looking at [TS]

  like these little cute cute little cedar [TS]

  shingles little homes i was like want to [TS]

  get a well what I'm going to engulf an [TS]

  Airstream don't get a Gulfstream images [TS]

  are very costly that's like having a [TS]

  boat sky-boat described but if you get [TS]

  an air attack but for what it's worth [TS]

  the guy who lived on a boat in the [TS]

  nineties [TS]

  Elvis airplane my so-called streams that [TS]

  was his job he was using a Gulfstream [TS]

  salesmen really so love David Geffen dr. [TS]

  bill cosby he sold go ugh [TS]

  Gulfstream's to people when you're [TS]

  telling me that bill cosby owned his own [TS]

  gulfstream yeah yeah he so I don't see [TS]

  too much but he was he did a pre-owned [TS]

  gulfstream sales nice so you know if [TS]

  you're looking to get into a Gulfstream [TS]

  4075 comes out you are for [TS]

  he's how was it going to take to put you [TS]

  in a ghost ring today right sure he's a [TS]

  broker is he broke the brokers [TS]

  Gulfstream's behind the lines right I [TS]

  know guy a good pretty good pretty good [TS]

  friend in college whose job is to design [TS]

  custom interiors for boeing business [TS]

  jets is that affect my brother-in-law [TS]

  specializes in turns out electronics for [TS]

  boats he's eating not for electronics [TS]

  expert [TS]

  wow so if you want like because you know [TS]

  you know it's not just your DVD player [TS]

  and stuff he does that he does the sound [TS]

  but he does all of the like the stuff [TS]

  that makes the boat run the radars stuff [TS]

  you get the sonar you get the radars on [TS]

  ours you know my sister dated a guy for [TS]

  a long time who was a boat electrician [TS]

  but that's hard that's that's that's [TS]

  what Sam does yeah yeah and it's yeah [TS]

  you're right you're working confined [TS]

  spaces little TV let you get you get you [TS]

  just it's like writing checks because [TS]

  those both folks there to there used to [TS]

  people you know given the mizzenmast [TS]

  they're using everything costing more [TS]

  it's like staying at a resort when you [TS]

  live on a boat when you join the sense [TS]

  that you know you're not as much [TS]

  selection is going to cost a lot of [TS]

  ninjas laugh I yet if my mom uses [TS]

  because my dad had a boat right when my [TS]

  mom and dad were married all that makes [TS]

  sense to say that it if you need it [TS]

  apart you can go to the hardware store [TS]

  and get the part or you can go to the [TS]

  boat hardware store and pay 50 times [TS]

  more for the same part but it had a but [TS]

  it came in a package that said four [TS]

  boats and haha when I was when she was [TS]

  pregnant with me she said David who need [TS]

  to get rid of this boat because it was [TS]

  all he did right he was because he raced [TS]

  it he was a sailboat racer every weekend [TS]

  every sunny day he was out you know [TS]

  winter summer [TS]

  out racing is sailboat against other [TS]

  sailboats around you know when you look [TS]

  at the beautiful water and you see this [TS]

  flotilla of fast-moving sailboats like [TS]

  he would just love that just love to be [TS]

  in the mix and he and his is he trying [TS]

  to get the entire family to be as crew [TS]

  but as time went on he didn't he is his [TS]

  older kids didn't like to be captained [TS]

  you know what I'm saying [TS]

  huh and my mom didn't didn't prefer to [TS]

  be a part of a sailboat crew either so [TS]

  he you know then you just getting up [TS]

  early but I don't think she doesn't seem [TS]

  like she particularly relishes agreeing [TS]

  to take orders from people well and also [TS]

  the salt water spray and the Yoho that's [TS]

  all going to have that spirit right in [TS]

  my mom would preferred infinitely [TS]

  preferred to have been reading the [TS]

  French Lieutenant's woman on the dock [TS]

  and watch the cell local by just a hot [TS]

  perfect [TS]

  she's probably she's probably wearing at [TS]

  that point in time 1960 she's got big [TS]

  sunglasses on she's got her hair and a [TS]

  kerchief and she's a and probably [TS]

  wearing three-quarter length Capri white [TS]

  capri pants on there and she's watching [TS]

  the sailboat go by that's fine with her [TS]

  who dads out there with John TCAP but [TS]

  then when she got pregnant she said you [TS]

  gotta get rid of this boat this boat is [TS]

  a hole in the waterways shovel money and [TS]

  be it takes all your time and you know [TS]

  it's not something really we share it as [TS]

  a couple ditch the boat we had a kid on [TS]

  the way my dad sold the boat and [TS]

  immediately bought an airplane out here [TS]

  which is you know in his style so I grew [TS]

  up I grew up with the airplane [TS]

  I never had any I don't have any sailing [TS]

  experience and can only run a concept [TS]

  test on you because I I don't know much [TS]

  about things but it feels like you've [TS]

  got mostly you know you think about [TS]

  Maslow's hierarchy of airplanes you got [TS]

  you start out with like okay you have to [TS]

  have a place to live it's nice to have a [TS]

  place to live secure place to live so [TS]

  like in time you make it like a vacation [TS]

  rental or you may get a cabin maybe you [TS]

  get maybe you get a like with a strapon [TS]

  trailers that you put on the back your [TS]

  truck so you can drive around but it [TS]

  feels like there are these levels to [TS]

  this where you know maybe make [TS]

  be your model trains I don't know but it [TS]

  feels like you move up this ladder that [TS]

  might start with something fairly modest [TS]

  could start with a rowboat for all I [TS]

  know but like it seems like if you've [TS]

  got the most money most men will go up [TS]

  this ladder of you're going to like the [TS]

  second car camper boat boat that you can [TS]

  like stay on until eventually they get [TS]

  their plane if they can write well I [TS]

  think airplane is a special kind of [TS]

  person so there are right now like I [TS]

  have plenty of friends who and in fact [TS]

  some people who listen to this very [TS]

  podcast who are still in their youth of [TS]

  you who are already on the airplane [TS]

  track but you're saying they're even [TS]

  today despite hipster cyber hovels there [TS]

  are millenniums that are on the airplane [TS]

  track their millenniums who the airplane [TS]

  is there that was always the airplane [TS]

  and it will always be the air berlin so [TS]

  it wasn't for my generation [TS]

  well except they're so I never fully [TS]

  understood i grew up flying planes i was [TS]

  very immersed in Alaska airplane culture [TS]

  but I never fully understood it because [TS]

  I inherited the desire to sit on the [TS]

  dock reading the French Lieutenant's [TS]

  woman with my hair and a kerchief right [TS]

  like I would prefer to be reading a book [TS]

  to almost any kind of like a sport [TS]

  let's say and I like to travel and I [TS]

  like to adventure and I like to get in [TS]

  trouble and I like to do stuff but if [TS]

  it's something like hey we're going to [TS]

  spend 45 minutes trying to get this [TS]

  motor started so that we can drive this [TS]

  motorized thing over that dune and then [TS]

  we're going to come back over the dune [TS]

  faster and try and jump it six inches in [TS]

  the air [TS]

  my feeling about it is always like well [TS]

  yeah that sounds fun i hope you get the [TS]

  motor started when you do maybe I'll [TS]

  take a turn [TS]

  but if it was up to me I would leave the [TS]

  thing unstarted and why don't we all sit [TS]

  here on this dude and read you know it's [TS]

  just a difference in [TS]

  since I guess a difference in what you [TS]

  consider sporting maybe or maybe they [TS]

  don't like to read but whatever it is I [TS]

  might you know my dad and I would go [TS]

  flying because he loved to fly and he [TS]

  would get in that plane readers [TS]

  checklists and we'd walk around would [TS]

  take the chucks out and we'd pick the [TS]

  pup poke and we'd pull the ball the [TS]

  little flags and say do not remove until [TS]

  it's time to fly but you must remove it [TS]

  if you do want to fly all the little you [TS]

  know and then I'd sit and read the [TS]

  checklist out loud [TS]

  yeah you know carburetor heat and he [TS]

  would say on i would say 10 degrees of [TS]

  flaps and would say 10 degrees flaps you [TS]

  know it's like I see I like that part i [TS]

  put the book down for me if I got to [TS]

  yell things back and forth like that [TS]

  super fun super fun but but but you know [TS]

  of my own accord i would just sort of [TS]

  never embark on once I'm there [TS]

  yes absolutely like here we go but but I [TS]

  would never embarked upon the all the [TS]

  lead up to it and that's why me buying [TS]

  an RV is was kind of a surprise because [TS]

  like now I got a thing that now that I [TS]

  get up and basically I should have a [TS]

  checklist and somebody should be yelling [TS]

  at me [TS]

  why did I do this but so he loved he [TS]

  loved all of that and the floor and then [TS]

  the flying and and frankly the flying [TS]

  here's what the flying is me [TS]

  me and you look out the window but all [TS]

  he was just you know he was loved it and [TS]

  and and i would say let's go let's get [TS]

  let's really get down you know 500 feet [TS]

  off the ground looks like let's fly [TS]

  through a barn and he would say no [TS]

  that's dangerous [TS]

  I'm very comfortable up here at 3,500 [TS]

  feet and be like ah that's no better [TS]

  love adventure this is just were just [TS]

  like puttering along he's like yeah [TS]

  puttering along pretty soon we'll we'll [TS]

  lamb somewhere that I mean I you know [TS]

  like he really loved it and I think that [TS]

  that is a thing that a certain type of [TS]

  person just once loves you know and they [TS]

  they get their license then they give me [TS]

  least planes are they you know they rent [TS]

  them first and then they released their [TS]

  own and then bury their after a while [TS]

  they save up their money and they buy [TS]

  1954 cessna152 then they got their own [TS]

  plane and then they move up the the [TS]

  Maslow's hierarchy of planes was like [TS]

  huh [TS]

  now I want a supercar but now i want to [TS]

  172 now I gotta get a 185 she doesn't [TS]

  then walk through it once you're at that [TS]

  point i think that i can say for myself [TS]

  that applies to lots of different things [TS]

  whether like you start out by this one [TS]

  comic book and then you want to trade [TS]

  paperback there was a collective version [TS]

  or like I've seen it with people with [TS]

  things like where you know [TS]

  remote-control devices or people say all [TS]

  just I'll get this one little you know [TS]

  hundred-dollar drone off Amazon and then [TS]

  they're they're all in now but like this [TS]

  is true of everything right how many [TS]

  system how many drones are there right [TS]

  now that are sitting at the bottom of [TS]

  someone's closet will never be flown [TS]

  again right now [TS]

  yeah over 5,000 you think you think just [TS]

  you think as few as five thousand i [TS]

  think it's like a ThighMaster [TS]

  yeah right you i will get it you get it [TS]

  and you don't use it for a couple [TS]

  weekends and you forget about it [TS]

  I told every time I see a draw my god i [TS]

  want one of those drones but if I had [TS]

  one of those drones it would you know [TS]

  I'd end up in the top of the closet I [TS]

  don't have enough use for it and [TS]

  watching it go up and come back down [TS]

  isn't that interesting [TS]

  yeah but what is a trade paperback [TS]

  I first heard that term likely also like [TS]

  it's basically i think that the general [TS]

  term for is when you go to a bookstore [TS]

  you got the hardcover books and then [TS]

  you've got when it's like what's the [TS]

  word perfect bound like when you got [TS]

  like the square spine on something and [TS]

  like the less expensive version [TS]

  yeah so a trade paperbacks in comics are [TS]

  RTB sometimes called graphic novels if [TS]

  it's all one story is when you collect [TS]

  four or more issues of a run in this one [TS]

  addition if you're like me and you're [TS]

  kind of a cheapskate and you can do [TS]

  what's called trade waiting [TS]

  which means you wait until the trade [TS]

  paperback comes out there is another [TS]

  term there's the term for there's a [TS]

  really cheap pulpy ones so you got [TS]

  hardbacks you got trade paperback then [TS]

  you get the really puffy ones you get [TS]

  like it the checkout [TS]

  yeah you know what i mean yeah i think [TS]

  there might be like at least used to be [TS]

  like three levels [TS]

  um I'm just I'm just remembering there [TS]

  was a time when people treated their [TS]

  computers like the like highly [TS]

  customizable upgradeable put your you [TS]

  know poor all your money into having [TS]

  your computer be super fast and super [TS]

  smoking and cool and rad people still do [TS]

  that as it's actually had kind of [TS]

  Renaissance used to be that it's it [TS]

  that's easy to kind of be the case with [TS]

  Max bits i think always been the case of [TS]

  pcs that you can do all kinds of stuff [TS]

  to it and you can in fact make one [TS]

  yourself it's something our friend and [TS]

  Benjamin used to do for living as you [TS]

  can make them from scratch and sell them [TS]

  and then at a certain point I think that [TS]

  became something mostly people who are [TS]

  really into video games did because you [TS]

  get super tricked-out one remember for [TS]

  time you get like funny cases make it [TS]

  look steampunk or whatever and now now [TS]

  today with the ridiculous designation [TS]

  and apples hardware releases people are [TS]

  returning to something called making a [TS]

  hackintosh was when you you get parts [TS]

  and you make a make-your-own mcintosh [TS]

  because you can't do like serious like [TS]

  oculus rift style vr you can't do super [TS]

  high-end video games so people are [TS]

  resorting to making their own max at [TS]

  this point so intense emotion it's been [TS]

  a big deal for a long time back from the [TS]

  days when you get a computer kit and [TS]

  make it home to your pc days nineties [TS]

  and now today I think it's ink [TS]

  have a renaissance especially among [TS]

  linux and pc windows people [TS]

  wow that was really well articulated [TS]

  thank you have a good answer to that is [TS]

  I wake up a little bit down the lines [TS]

  right so do can you go because it seems [TS]

  to me like if you walk into any kind of [TS]

  Apple based enterprise like the store or [TS]

  the website [TS]

  uh-huh there's not a lot of you know [TS]

  they control those environments so that [TS]

  you there [TS]

  it's not like you can we go out the back [TS]

  door and and and say oh I'm just going [TS]

  to sit in the backyard for a while like [TS]

  it everything you do [TS]

  somebody's grabbing you by the hand and [TS]

  saying don't you mean over here on any [TS]

  and all my feels like it feels like [TS]

  everyone is on stage an apple store [TS]

  yeah if you go to a fries and just start [TS]

  wandering around the transistor I'll [TS]

  it's like whatever it's like a big radio [TS]

  shack that Apple it feels like you're [TS]

  looking at a performance [TS]

  yeah so I don't see anywhere in there [TS]

  where there is a there is a carefully [TS]

  like a vacuum-sealed bag with like [TS]

  customizable Apple parts like build your [TS]

  own right it seems very much like here [TS]

  you go like and then you get the [TS]

  headphone and then you get the you know [TS]

  then you could be a doily and then you [TS]

  go to checkout [TS]

  yeah so where would you if you were [TS]

  going to hackintosh the thing where [TS]

  would you get peace hackintosh parts [TS]

  um I don't know a lot about it and I [TS]

  know it's it's kind of a hobbyist sort [TS]

  of thing unless you are like a like a [TS]

  real if your computer engineering type [TS]

  it's less difficult but it's a lot of [TS]

  like following diagrams and buying [TS]

  certain parts and the particular [TS]

  difficult with mac stuff is our apple [TS]

  stuff is that there's all kinds of [TS]

  things that can change in the software [TS]

  that they probably will deliberately try [TS]

  to change to keep that from being a [TS]

  thing is there's been a over the years [TS]

  with this really boring over the years [TS]

  with Apple there's been this move to [TS]

  become more operationally efficient and [TS]

  be able to like get make a lot of their [TS]

  own parts or have their parts made for [TS]

  them and then to put them into a body [TS]

  that's increasingly lighter and thinner [TS]

  where it's very it's gotten very very [TS]

  difficult to service your own mac let [TS]

  alone alter its own sometimes you can't [TS]

  you can't even change the ram in it that [TS]

  I've had this [TS]

  very same experience with myself I keep [TS]

  trying to put all my hardware into us [TS]

  faster and lighter body [TS]

  yes but then it becomes increasingly [TS]

  difficult to service [TS]

  oh man and then they now she breaks down [TS]

  around the ram yeah sure little thicker [TS]

  in the middle of a war but you know [TS]

  worked up until then so how's your how's [TS]

  your family it's getting pretty good [TS]

  bandwidth although people around me have [TS]

  started to say that i am not remembering [TS]

  everything [TS]

  oh boy I i I've had this has been a [TS]

  tough year for me i'm starting to [TS]

  actually really really notice some [TS]

  problems did make me a little fearful [TS]

  are you using the right of octane of gas [TS]

  but look at low low great gas in there's [TS]

  a lot of water in that gap i noticed I [TS]

  noticed for a while when I would hear [TS]

  myself speaking on podcast i noticed [TS]

  something we've talked about this but [TS]

  something that I do occasionally which [TS]

  is I say something and I unintentionally [TS]

  say the opposite of what i meant to say [TS]

  mmm [TS]

  like I'm just kind of I'm used to being [TS]

  quick on my feet and fast tongue and so [TS]

  I could I feel like I could fly through [TS]

  this array of 50 different options and [TS]

  nowhere I just spin the wheel and that's [TS]

  one thing for me when I get that wrong a [TS]

  lot i just say the wrong thing [TS]

  oh dear you might say Thomas Mann what I [TS]

  mean John Locke there's lots of ways in [TS]

  which I can get a little confused but [TS]

  now also I noticed that actually almost [TS]

  like having aphasia like the words that [TS]

  come out of my mouth or like you know [TS]

  ma'am dogface to the banana patch em I [TS]

  don't think it's huge it's mostly in the [TS]

  morning it's mostly when i'm waking up [TS]

  but it is as we say in the computer [TS]

  industry is a known issue known issues a [TS]

  known issue I yeah you know I got a lot [TS]

  on movie and it requires that I'd be [TS]

  really you know really sharp all the [TS]

  time [TS]

  alright yeah i just i have to be really [TS]

  really sharp because it's just doing all [TS]

  the things you need to do for your [TS]

  enterprise [TS]

  yeah all my enterprises are all you know [TS]

  they all require that i really really be [TS]

  on top of the game you know from shirt [TS]

  on the dusk didn't think that [TS]

  operationally you got meetings to go to [TS]

  yeah yeah people even we gotta get keep [TS]

  the lines right well you have two lines [TS]

  right right i mean you know a lot of [TS]

  people are are feeding their family [TS]

  and when you start telling you feel the [TS]

  weight of that responsibility you do you [TS]

  start thinking about people feeding [TS]

  their families [TS]

  yeah right and then use it i'll tell you [TS]

  that business school can i afford to let [TS]

  to let it down to let those lines go [TS]

  slack for one minute get given all the [TS]

  people that are trying to feed their [TS]

  families [TS]

  so I can't afford to have a decrease in [TS]

  bandwidth I can't afford to to mistake [TS]

  thomas mann 44 Jeremiah lock when you're [TS]

  right we were working at that level and [TS]

  you confuse a Robert Robert man with [TS]

  that with a rabid I locked her Robert [TS]

  Byrne Robert Burns officers are talking [TS]

  like robert burns in the morning little [TS]

  bit now that's the thing is when you're [TS]

  operating at the scale you are in it in [TS]

  many ways much like a Walmart where he [TS]

  things that you change alter or get [TS]

  wrong at that scale have an impact [TS]

  butterfly flaps its wings Merlin yeah [TS]

  and pretty soon the price of sprite goes [TS]

  through the roof because your attention [TS]

  you want to memorize all the way down [TS]

  but fightin em I you know we've talked [TS]

  about this quite a bit down that that [TS]

  obviously like I never believed that I [TS]

  that I was mortal or even fallible and [TS]

  now you know over the course of [TS]

  obviously many decades you again that's [TS]

  between falta more in the Pope but yeah [TS]

  basically right like an infallible [TS]

  immortal being [TS]

  I'm sort of like blue penis man oh yeah [TS]

  right you can send ya right except he [TS]

  doesn't you know he's got a rest from [TS]

  what I can understand has a moral a [TS]

  there's a little bit it feels like [TS]

  there's some chinks in his moral armor [TS]

  easy on the ping-pong yeah yeah also he [TS]

  forget stuff like that Lori needs to [TS]

  breathe on Mars see that's it that's [TS]

  easy to forget because you're consumed [TS]

  with other things because a lot of [TS]

  people need to feed their families [TS]

  yeah I think ever since he became blue [TS]

  penis man he had I'm trying to avoid [TS]

  using some delicate medical terms but he [TS]

  has a certain distance from the feelings [TS]

  and needs of others [TS]

  I see [TS]

  I see you I'm saying yeah he's a [TS]

  spectral I feel like Billy Crudup for a [TS]

  brief period was he was going to be my [TS]

  actor ever get that feeling when you're [TS]

  like that guy have to keep my first of [TS]

  all amazing amazed that you can see had [TS]

  tested [TS]

  I'm amazed that you could pull that [TS]

  quickly that he was blue penis man the [TS]

  movie he was also in and I was in almost [TS]

  famous right that's kind of what he's no [TS]

  for use in almost famous but he was also [TS]

  in jesus son i love his voice a great [TS]

  movie no Jesus the Son that's Billy [TS]

  Crudup yeah that's told to write that's [TS]

  totally him and so Billy Crudup [TS]

  extremely handsome your dreams in your [TS]

  life when you feel like this could be my [TS]

  actor [TS]

  this is my actor I had everything about [TS]

  it burns it burns that his name who's [TS]

  the guy in the FI club movie [TS]

  yeah add members edward scissor and [TS]

  broadsides head were right ruddy-faced [TS]

  no I'll Roderick Roderick Kipling right [TS]

  runnymede right said fred to help he was [TS]

  that guy do you remember the first time [TS]

  that he appeared on the scene american [TS]

  history x people here the thing is he [TS]

  had like two giant very different movies [TS]

  come out it's not like the same day [TS]

  what were those well I remember he was [TS]

  in everyone says I everyone says i love [TS]

  you he was in everyone's i love you [TS]

  the Woody Allen movie and then he was [TS]

  also in i want to say my club i think [TS]

  was 98 but like he seems like he's was [TS]

  like a kevin spacey where it seems like [TS]

  he just suddenly came out of nowhere he [TS]

  was used everywhere within like a year [TS]

  he was recognized immediately as a very [TS]

  good actor was very work is versatile he [TS]

  was committed personal and committed out [TS]

  the first time I saw him was is he he [TS]

  played the attorney in the People vs [TS]

  Larry Flynt of course he was also in [TS]

  that done no spoilers movie is in the [TS]

  morn with the with the Buddhist I pretty [TS]

  one has a frog will come on he was in [TS]

  the defense for the history [TS]

  no he was only one with the with the [TS]

  richard gere remember interchange them [TS]

  up in that one is a who's away you can [TS]

  you remember the one he's a guy in jail [TS]

  and Richard Gere's defending him [TS]

  it's a witness for the prosecution never [TS]

  saw that either [TS]

  ah [TS]

  edward norton and norton Edward Burns is [TS]

  the guy in those other movies don't [TS]

  norton norton the mood Alice sewn he was [TS]

  also yeah I thought that's my god I [TS]

  Ackman or 10 norton norton norton and uh [TS]

  and billy crudup could have been that I [TS]

  mean you know Leonardo DiCaprio was [TS]

  never my actor [TS]

  yeah let's just let's just come right [TS]

  out and say it you know if you were if [TS]

  you were eight years younger [TS]

  it could be a maybe your little too old [TS]

  to be 22 have much respect for him [TS]

  especially when he was younger and had [TS]

  that hair good hair nice hair and I [TS]

  thought he did a very good job and [TS]

  what's eating gilbert grape yeah i did [TS]

  not like any of the subsequent things [TS]

  i'm gonna be easy [TS]

  I don't mind leonardo dicaprio movies [TS]

  oh I just him that he's never gonna be [TS]

  my god you should figure out where he's [TS]

  going with the facial hair [TS]

  I i find it troubling that every time I [TS]

  see him I think he seems like he's [TS]

  forever in facial hair transition and I [TS]

  don't think that's an enduring look for [TS]

  an adult man he still seems like a [TS]

  teenager to me even though I know he's [TS]

  in his forties he seems to me he feels [TS]

  like a townie to me he feels like [TS]

  somebody they went to a school that used [TS]

  to be prestigious finished without much [TS]

  you know acclamation and then kind of [TS]

  hung around for a while I see it out [TS]

  I get what you're saying he's a rich [TS]

  town primal fear [TS]

  Oh prime farrier 1996 never saw that i [TS]

  would note that the Edward Norton was in [TS]

  no movies in 1997 well and so this is my [TS]

  question about Billy Crudup what [TS]

  happened to Billy Crudup I I thought you [TS]

  going to be the biggest star in the [TS]

  world and he had a lot of gravitas to [TS]

  doing now why the hell is Matthew [TS]

  McConaughey yeah when all these Oscars [TS]

  while Billy Crudup is what Mona la he [TS]

  was also in big fish put in that [TS]

  yeah that's pretty weird damn look at [TS]

  this April of it feels like these days [TS]

  everybody becomes a voice actor whenever [TS]

  you're wondering what someone's doing [TS]

  they're probably a voice actor know or [TS]

  Christian Oh voice acting or like a [TS]

  Christians banker [TS]

  I you know I was talking I was on I did [TS]

  this little of [TS]

  this little TV production the other day [TS]

  where I spent two days making these [TS]

  these videos for the visit seattle group [TS]

  where I had a talk show set on the back [TS]

  of a flatbed truck and we drove around [TS]

  and on the top of the total is what she [TS]

  was Jason Finn involved in this [TS]

  well I invited him onto the stage is a [TS]

  photo of you guys talking on the stage [TS]

  up on up on top of the so the the stage [TS]

  set was a desk and a couch and some [TS]

  potted ferns potted plants on a flatbed [TS]

  truck and then over the top of it we're [TS]

  in giant sort of old-fashioned lights [TS]

  not neon lights but like letter lights [TS]

  that have light bulbs in them you know [TS]

  like our like you have a single one in a [TS]

  coffee shop in Portland [TS]

  yeah that's right like the letter K is [TS]

  above the coffee shop mankind from from [TS]

  kurts coffee or something but now it's [TS]

  just yeah like hey we're cool but this [TS]

  was the the whole top of this thing was [TS]

  like it said hashtag hey Seattle across [TS]

  the top of the truck and there's a lot [TS]

  you know there was a lot that about the [TS]

  whole project that's that scared me a [TS]

  little bit like this is you know it may [TS]

  be is this corny or maybe is this going [TS]

  to be fun or is it like one of those [TS]

  corny thing that's going to be fun but [TS]

  it was you know it was fun we drove [TS]

  around town and we we parked in front of [TS]

  the space needle and then I had these [TS]

  Letterman like viewer mail cards right [TS]

  would read them and say hashtag k [TS]

  Seattle how do i find the best with over [TS]

  which is the best men's room in the [TS]

  space needle and then I would use my own [TS]

  knowledge and say you know funny [TS]

  none of the restrooms at the Space [TS]

  Needle are of the caliber that the [TS]

  gentleman is going to require turns out [TS]

  but this the restrooms at the you know [TS]

  the EMP are cleaned every 15 minutes so [TS]

  just hop on over to the EMP you know [TS]

  this type of thing where i'm given i'm [TS]

  giving advice to people who are coming [TS]

  to the city [TS]

  ok and over the people following you [TS]

  from place to place because they had [TS]

  questions uh the there was there was [TS]

  less of that but I did have guests [TS]

  come up and at one point Jason was one [TS]

  of the guests because i kept getting [TS]

  these questions like what's the best [TS]

  distillery in town where do i go to [TS]

  drink Washington wines how what kind of [TS]

  brew pub should I and I'm just like I [TS]

  don't have any answers to these my [TS]

  answer is fuck you go 2a or or even if [TS]

  i'm even if I'm not being like flip the [TS]

  answer is I don't know I honestly don't [TS]

  care if you if you really coming to [TS]

  seattle you want to know what the [TS]

  distilleries are I presume you can find [TS]

  that on the internet but ok I'll try and [TS]

  probably doesn't doesn't doesn't sound [TS]

  that could come off the back of a truck [TS]

  well it's not really like what you do if [TS]

  you're like doing tourists videos know [TS]

  you want Washington ones yeah they're 75 [TS]

  resources for that let me google that [TS]

  for help cool it for you but so i kept [TS]

  getting these questions so I was like [TS]

  you know what let me get my pal Jason up [TS]

  here because he's gonna even if he [TS]

  doesn't know he's gonna talk like he [TS]

  knows and he got up and then when he was [TS]

  like I don't know anything about the you [TS]

  know brewpubs anymore that's something I [TS]

  knew 25 years ago i'm like to worry [TS]

  about so we talked about some brew pubs [TS]

  that we knew about and yeah I was great [TS]

  and you know I actually at one point had [TS]

  Tim Burgess my opponent from the from my [TS]

  race for seattle city council how [TS]

  current sitting city councilman Tim [TS]

  Burgess he got up at one point and we [TS]

  also the singer for The Charlatans right [TS]

  now that's temperatures UK ok [TS]

  oh the point we so we you know we traded [TS]

  we traded the dozens a little bit and we [TS]

  we had some fun I was nice to see Tim [TS]

  Burgess again but all my way of saying [TS]

  that I was as in all film shoots the [TS]

  amount of time that you're up doing that [TS]

  you're on camera stuff is dwarfed by the [TS]

  amount of time you spend sitting around [TS]

  in a trailer with a bunch of its it's [TS]

  the load out all over again [TS]

  that's right you're back by watching [TS]

  Richard Richard Pryor on the video [TS]

  yeah so I'm you know I'm talking I'm [TS]

  talking to the makeup lady and I'm [TS]

  talking to the to the the Wardrobe lady [TS]

  and I'm talking to the the lady who is [TS]

  the second assistant cameraperson and [TS]

  I'm talking to the grip and the other [TS]

  grip in the key grip alley boy and in [TS]

  talking about all the [TS]

  things right everybody it's just like [TS]

  rock-and-roll you get a bunch of [TS]

  rock-and-roll people in there and right [TS]

  away you're telling stories like oh yeah [TS]

  did i ever tell you about the time that [TS]

  I you know that I met the guy from third [TS]

  eye blind in the restroom at the center [TS]

  house and lot of ladder is like no way [TS]

  I've got a story about that guy I've got [TS]

  a story about another guy and pretty [TS]

  soon you're just it'sit's the whole [TS]

  nature of the entertainment business i [TS]

  don't know if this is true in other [TS]

  industries [TS]

  oh yes its software people get together [TS]

  they're just like people people popular [TS]

  people know they're there they got their [TS]

  own house right so it's the IP next mark [TS]

  wahlberg not too long ago the little guy [TS]

  is really a smaller the guests [TS]

  he's not tall i would I think all act TV [TS]

  actors are small or a hit movie is the [TS]

  head sizes you this is why you should [TS]

  probably be on TV get off the truck and [TS]

  on TV that you have very very prominent [TS]

  head big head small body is you know TV [TS]

  design you're halfway there [TS]

  yeah that's right now I don't have time [TS]

  there's no small part of me [TS]

  they're only small actors but yeah but [TS]

  you can always tell an actor is small [TS]

  because when they have the romantic [TS]

  scene there like three inches taller [TS]

  than the than the lead actress [TS]

  yeah and of course as we know you cannot [TS]

  be a lead actress if you're taller than [TS]

  4 11 right or something like that yeah [TS]

  what a brand of Tarth right now and of [TS]

  torts she's very she's over six feet [TS]

  tall [TS]

  yeah she's just she's also the storm [TS]

  trooper who was the 10 she'sshe's this [TS]

  cheesy little trooper [TS]

  yeah yeah interesting i love her who's [TS]

  the actress who played the press [TS]

  secretary in the West Wing Allison [TS]

  Janney Allison Janney I want to move [TS]

  with her last night she's very tall I [TS]

  like her as an actor [TS]

  I'll also at this point recommend the [TS]

  movie Spy I was that the hilarious one [TS]

  well here's the thing i tried watch so [TS]

  we watch this little ones like [TS]

  Ghostbusters for the second time [TS]

  yesterday equally great the second time [TS]

  and I thought you know what i should [TS]

  give the spy movie a third spin because [TS]

  I think I didn't I couldn't make it out [TS]

  of the first act because that was ok but [TS]

  you get one starring the star of the [TS]

  gross yeah [TS]

  Sookie from gilmore girls and so big I [TS]

  so good it's so good i went to see spy [TS]

  first came out because you may know this [TS]

  about me [TS]

  yeah anything that has the word spine [TS]

  I'm sure I will you know it's right [TS]

  there on the 10 [TS]

  yeah if you if you open the distillery [TS]

  didn't mean to take your truck sorry [TS]

  about that it's alright but if you open [TS]

  the distillery in seattle and called [TS]

  it's why i would go in there and drink [TS]

  all the booze I'd fall right off the way [TS]

  that is like going to cut that ribbon it [TS]

  says spy [TS]

  yeah maybe there's some spy stuff yeah [TS]

  so I went to see the movie Spy and i [TS]

  laughed and laughed [TS]

  uh sighs funny I thought it was [TS]

  hi-larious that guy Paul Feig gets this [TS]

  cast of people the same you know some of [TS]

  the same like featured people you saw in [TS]

  the incredible bridesmaids he's got this [TS]

  cast of characters who can do straight [TS]

  in a way that's like rose byrne is a [TS]

  treasure [TS]

  she's so freaking fine yes yes and the [TS]

  actress this for whom this movie is a [TS]

  star vehicle mentality melissa mccarthy [TS]

  i fell in love with her immediately I [TS]

  thought that she was both hilarious and [TS]

  also great and so I i said this movie [TS]

  everything about this movie is done and [TS]

  this should be a dumb movie but it is [TS]

  not a dumb movie because it is totally [TS]

  carried by this tremendous actor and [TS]

  also like all the things that are all [TS]

  the things that are just on the cusp of [TS]

  being really corny and bad on the right [TS]

  side of that cusp so it's like haha [TS]

  that's pretty close too bad but it's [TS]

  actually great like peter serafinowicz [TS]

  at whom I adore as this like just this [TS]

  side of straight up sexual assault but [TS]

  so so funny in that role [TS]

  mmm great great parts well so I'm spots [TS]

  are you there you came for the spine [TS]

  stay for Sookie I came for the spicy [TS]

  savory Sookie I don't know what the [TS]

  second after that means little girls [TS]

  it's really good [TS]

  I you know I had a song on Gilmore Girls [TS]

  he told me that um I don't know I can't [TS]

  but was probably five fire island i'm [TS]

  pretty much are pushovers [TS]

  well when I don't know that the bump [TS]

  bump bump bump song adaptive that which [TS]

  can i when i was at a party two days ago [TS]

  the guy who owns the guitar store that I [TS]

  used to work at many years ago who's you [TS]

  know he's like [TS]

  he's that style of rock-and-roll where [TS]

  he still has a really big pompadour and [TS]

  he sells very high-end guitars now [TS]

  that's cool and he said I haven't seen [TS]

  you guys playing a long time and I was [TS]

  like well yeah the long winters haven't [TS]

  played in a long time you said the last [TS]

  time I want to see you play I really you [TS]

  know I really felt like I mean I don't I [TS]

  don't say this very often but I really [TS]

  felt like there was kind of a Dave [TS]

  Matthews five going on man i was like [TS]

  what and he said I mean in any kind of [TS]

  set that over his shoulder kind of his [TS]

  side I mean that's not really my thing [TS]

  but i really liked you [TS]

  it's like okay you're wrong and then [TS]

  your second wrong and then they've been [TS]

  through a little insult in there and [TS]

  yeah thanks that's thanks for the non [TS]

  compliment and he's a good pal but she [TS]

  was he trying to communicate with that [TS]

  there's a thing about rock and roll and [TS]

  I think that he was you know he's always [TS]

  been a rock in the like in the eighties [TS]

  he was in a lot of hair metal bands hair [TS]

  hair rock-and-roll bands but then he [TS]

  made the transition when he got into [TS]

  selling guitars to realizing that was [TS]

  cool was garage rock and garage rock is [TS]

  graduation is very seldom going to ever [TS]

  sell any records or b or anybody is [TS]

  going to care about it but it's also [TS]

  always going to be super cool who has [TS]

  got its got its cult it's got a call [TS]

  right and the the strokes were basically [TS]

  garage-rock who became a fairly big band [TS]

  for a while but even day were just a big [TS]

  indie band The Strokes never know the [TS]

  strokes were never like a huge pop band [TS]

  but he's he's garage rock is what school [TS]

  you know dang and what he was saying i [TS]

  think is that he detected that element [TS]

  in the long winters that is a little bit [TS]

  but there's a tiny tiny tiny element of [TS]

  of white dude groove in there just in [TS]

  the sense that that all of our pic [TS]

  strokes are not downstrokes right guitar [TS]

  the garage rock is just tank tank tank [TS]

  tank tank tank and every once in a blue [TS]

  moon the long winters will go James Gang [TS]

  Gang or whatever like i don't disagree [TS]

  with that point boy you could have [TS]

  picked a better band [TS]

  tell ya so when he throws dave matthews [TS]

  and it's like you say 40 million bands i [TS]

  think that's the nuclear option [TS]

  yeah including like Jimi Hendrix or [TS]

  whatever I mean there's there's so many [TS]

  so many ways that you could have said [TS]

  that and so I'm not sure whether he [TS]

  wanted to a little bit cut me off at the [TS]

  knees [TS]

  there's also an element where I feel [TS]

  like at the moment when he was at the [TS]

  show I did one particular thing that he [TS]

  thought dave mathews z and he planted a [TS]

  flag in his mind and then that was the [TS]

  lab and the flag was the only thing that [TS]

  he remembers right he like watered the [TS]

  water the ground what happens that you [TS]

  print on things like that you know i [TS]

  i've told you before the first time i [TS]

  heard bone area are not going on da more [TS]

  than shapes but I mean bring my heart [TS]

  shapes it reminded me of haircut 100 yes [TS]

  which makes almost no sense and I wasn't [TS]

  intended but to this day I still I still [TS]

  here a little bit of love plus 1 and I [TS]

  can't even tell you exactly what it is [TS]

  but that now that Kim I think about [TS]

  about 23 years ago and it still sounds [TS]

  like haircut 100 me [TS]

  yeah that's fine as I think that I'm [TS]

  printed on that but it was one of those [TS]

  like well that conversation is over i [TS]

  guess i'm going to water back over to [TS]

  the BBQ because there's nowhere I can go [TS]

  that's them's fighting words and he was [TS]

  like and I think he recognized you know [TS]

  he tried to laugh it off like her but [TS]

  but the damage was done but you know [TS]

  he's a guy in his fifties and where you [TS]

  know we've been friends for years sure [TS]

  it's not a problem but uh but the the [TS]

  point why that's very unusual that i [TS]

  lose a point maybe I'm losing my memory [TS]

  oh no so i was talking to my makeup late [TS]

  right [TS]

  physical bond that we're back on the [TS]

  truck now on my TV show with who and she [TS]

  and we started like a lot of production [TS]

  people in the northwest want to talk [TS]

  about a twin peaks because a lot of them [TS]

  work on twin peaks and B they want to [TS]

  talk about [TS]

  the TV show Baked Alaska be the one [TS]

  where the northern exposure northern [TS]

  exposure thing and because they all [TS]

  worked on northern exposure the ones [TS]

  that have been around for that took [TS]

  place in Alaska but was alaska right it [TS]

  was supposed to be in Alaska it was said [TS]

  in her was filmed in Seattle ok oh ok [TS]

  and a and in fact when it was on the air [TS]

  there was a there was a radio show in [TS]

  Anchorage a call-in radio show that [TS]

  would happen every friday morning after [TS]

  this after northern exposure aired which [TS]

  I guess was on thursday night and people [TS]

  would call in and they would all talk [TS]

  about all the inaccuracies of the [TS]

  program i'll play they would say like [TS]

  there was a red throated Warbler in the [TS]

  show and there that Alaska is outside of [TS]

  the range of the red-throated Warbler [TS]

  and they people would say like that's [TS]

  not the kind of grass that would be [TS]

  growing in Homer was in just like oh my [TS]

  god people that's not the kind of crap [TS]

  that would be growing in Homer yeah [TS]

  people would say that type of thing like [TS]

  that would never have asked that you [TS]

  know that guy would have been thrown in [TS]

  the in the water but they were so I of [TS]

  course was like you worked on northern [TS]

  exposure and my makeup lady was like [TS]

  yeah I was that i worked on the show [TS]

  from the beginning the entire run and i [TS]

  said okay let's let's get to the bottom [TS]

  of this was john corbett nice [TS]

  yes John Corbett was really nice ok [TS]

  that's good that's good news i remember [TS]

  at the time John Corbett was kind of [TS]

  hanging around the grunge scene a little [TS]

  bit Lykke a heat kinda post part owner [TS]

  of a club or something he come down he [TS]

  wanted to be in the scene [TS]

  oh and i remember a lot of the grungy [TS]

  assholes will be like hit in Hollywood [TS]

  guy with but you know me remember sure [TS]

  but it turns out John Corbett really [TS]

  according to the makeup lady and I think [TS]

  she would know my budget in Turner well [TS]

  this is the thing right i had a lot of [TS]

  thing for her just edging around yeah [TS]

  you don't go straight to Jeter will talk [TS]

  about Janine Turner first you want to [TS]

  walk around and say like what [TS]

  ask someone about a holy banker was he [TS]

  like yeah what about this time what'd ya [TS]

  that's interesting names again more [TS]

  games anyway what time and everybody's [TS]

  like yeah she's just said after one [TS]

  after the other like all they're just [TS]

  wonderful just a just the most wonderful [TS]

  cast the wonderfullest crew everything [TS]

  about the show was wonderful and I [TS]

  thought I was like whoa what about [TS]

  Janine Turner no no I'm like I you know [TS]

  I know that I know this I know this [TS]

  already i know this already but i want [TS]

  to hear say it hard things [TS]

  Oh for a long long time even when they [TS]

  were filming the show people would come [TS]

  and people come in sit at the bar and [TS]

  I'd be wiping a class with a towel and [TS]

  say what can I get your partner and they [TS]

  say give me a double and it's a hard day [TS]

  and they say a working on northern [TS]

  exposure might go tell me more [TS]

  how's that bill now that bill Corbett [TS]

  made salaries nice guy [TS]

  what's so uh so what you have going to [TS]

  put the put the double in front of them [TS]

  they just shoot it down then they'd say [TS]

  that Janine Turner em I'd go I'd lean in [TS]

  yeah I'm here for a partner because i [TS]

  had a real thing for her she was she's [TS]

  got she's got she takes all your boxes [TS]

  yes she does she's a very John Roderick [TS]

  a type of person including the clear the [TS]

  clear high maintenance pneus uh-huh for [TS]

  the just exudes right out of her butt so [TS]

  I've heard this for years and now here's [TS]

  her makeup lady I'm like lay it on me [TS]

  o.o awful just all the stories all the [TS]

  terrible stories that you hear about [TS]

  terrible actors doing things where they [TS]

  they hold up the whole filming because [TS]

  they don't like the nail nail polish you [TS]

  know a lot of like doing things on [TS]

  purpose that caused all the tech staff [TS]

  to have to stay and other for hours [TS]

  because of something you know like spill [TS]

  campaigned on the set [TS]

  kick it over because you're mad whatever [TS]

  just awful awful awful off allegedly [TS]

  just well yeah right [TS]

  allegedly except then my makeup lady [TS]

  says everything what she's been doing [TS]

  lately and i was like i said no i [TS]

  haven't really followed her career maybe [TS]

  I should google her like I did I did who [TS]

  did I google not very long ago [TS]

  marilu henner all maryland her like I [TS]

  was so in love with mention the colon [TS]

  cleansing yeah and then I googled it was [TS]

  and she had this pretty booming business [TS]

  of like I no swallowing copper pennies [TS]

  in order to get your colon to you know [TS]

  believe in raw yeah right that's all [TS]

  kinds of toxins in there [TS]

  yeah and the penny leave a penny leach [TS]

  the toxins out because just the toxins [TS]

  because it because of free radicals [TS]

  she's helping keep the lines right if [TS]

  you it you know what happens is a [TS]

  one-electron who causes metastasis it's [TS]

  called the call one hit three the [TS]

  one-hit ball takes exposure to that one [TS]

  electron just a northern exposure to [TS]

  that one electron and you poop super [TS]

  hard and he's like a bicycle inner tube [TS]

  comes out and get a coffee to do coffee [TS]

  enema what happens is that the penny [TS]

  makes an amalgam with all of the mercury [TS]

  oh you're saying it's science it's [TS]

  science [TS]

  so it's calistri it's physics it's a [TS]

  it's new monastics new monastics isn't [TS]

  its alchemist except alchemist across [TS]

  our crumbs brother used to swallow [TS]

  string of pit [TS]

  oh that's one of my favorite movies and [TS]

  yeah right you could I saw him one of my [TS]

  first trip to San Francisco I was [TS]

  walking down the street and I did like a [TS]

  quadruple take no it's really max right [TS]

  is out in the world [TS]

  oh yeah he would sit with his little [TS]

  bacon bowl and it was always like that's [TS]

  totally arc I think it's max no max is [TS]

  the other brother was gonna do a little [TS]

  brother did you ever know about the [TS]

  could snort a piece of the spaghetti and [TS]

  then pull it out the back of their mouth [TS]

  now I I've heard that that's the thing [TS]

  that can happen [TS]

  I've seen it I've seen it okay you're [TS]

  saying and it's not like it's not like [TS]

  the popcorn box this is like a thing [TS]

  no no I there was a I had a really good [TS]

  friend they could snort a piece of [TS]

  spaghetti and then reach into the back [TS]

  of his throat and we'll find the other [TS]

  and and pull it out and then floss his [TS]

  brain with a long piece of spaghetti [TS]

  which was the absolute top bar trick I [TS]

  ever saw and frankly Merlin I tried it [TS]

  many times i would think the spaghetti i [TS]

  would try and snorted into my nose [TS]

  because i really wanted to have the [TS]

  ability to do this I can do this Chevy [TS]

  the Chevy Chase cigarette inside the [TS]

  mouth flip huh [TS]

  and your mouth is big enough for that [TS]

  yeah I flipper flipper a cigarette in [TS]

  there found that blow smoke out of the [TS]

  filter and then i can flip it back [TS]

  around outside i was very cool trick but [TS]

  I could never gonna have the same [TS]

  respect today for those kinds of tricks [TS]

  the bar tricks right you just started [TS]

  doing nasal irrigation so I can just [TS]

  tell you that when you do the nasal area [TS]

  the sinus irrigation it comes out the [TS]

  other nostril and it comes out of your [TS]

  mouth so I believe there's a spaghetti [TS]

  pathway for sure there was and I mean [TS]

  it's just enough spaghetti is just soft [TS]

  enough i think that if you break it in [TS]

  there it's gonna find its way to your [TS]

  tummy but to do the trick you have to [TS]

  keep a little bit al dente you get like [TS]

  a number two but i'm not a noodle you [TS]

  get you get a look thin or a full [TS]

  spaghetti [TS]

  do you want to do like a look at link [TS]

  weaning know you wouldn't want to win [TS]

  you wouldn't want to be too soft but you [TS]

  seem like the type of guy that used to [TS]

  have a lot of zippo tricks did you have [TS]

  a simple trick I had some zippo tricks [TS]

  we we mentioned this a bit i had a few [TS]

  things I could do I was very lonely us [TS]

  on loan is the wrong word lonesome like [TS]

  I I was you know kind of a lonesome [TS]

  latchkey right and I would practice [TS]

  things a lot I could do I made up lots [TS]

  of skills for myself and then I would [TS]

  practice them for weeks [TS]

  knife-throwing oh yeah Oh knife-throwing [TS]

  Oh throwing all things [TS]

  oh yeah oh yeah but i would come up with [TS]

  games like could I bank this ball off of [TS]

  these two walls the same way three times [TS]

  over on that is some lonely kid stuff i [TS]

  had so that games that were designed for [TS]

  one lonely child I don't but you never [TS]

  worked on close up magic no Ricky Jay [TS]

  was a lonely kid who just got shot apart [TS]

  but then he found a problem you know [TS]

  that before the general cards for [TS]

  that before the general cards for [TS]

  45 years and now he's on the field and I [TS]

  can't get rid of him [TS]

  how did I want but so apparently janeane [TS]

  garofalo or whatever yeah and honest [TS]

  allegedly allegedly also true janeane [TS]

  garofalo oh I hear things about her [TS]

  see I don't just make the site were just [TS]

  being a bag on women as well there's [TS]

  lots of terrible man i just i don't want [TS]

  to leave that impression [TS]

  leonardo dicaprio you think he's [TS]

  high-maintenance probably you keep [TS]

  stating really young models from Sweden [TS]

  wow that's not a good look but uh [TS]

  apparently Janine is a rabid right-wing [TS]

  a cheater [TS]

  Janine Turner know who had briefly a [TS]

  radio show where she was like a shouty a [TS]

  like from easter she appeared with sara [TS]

  hammond hanging for sarah palin yeah [TS]

  dyed her hair blonde according to my [TS]

  makeup lady alcohol and was like shouty [TS]

  sarah palin shouter and I can only guess [TS]

  is like thrilled about the Trump and so [TS]

  like I think she was always like that [TS]

  and now has become you know more and [TS]

  more like that she's a rancher she has [TS]

  longhorn cattle [TS]

  oh yeah she has been engaged to alec [TS]

  baldwin and she has data troy aikman [TS]

  Mikhail Baryshnikov in sylvester [TS]

  stallone oh so my makeup lady says [TS]

  that's allegedly literally awesome [TS]

  she said she always wanted to have a [TS]

  baby with a sports person [TS]

  oh that's what my makeup lady said that [TS]

  ejects John whatever baby with a sports [TS]

  person [TS]

  Wow eugenics how well i mean we all kind [TS]

  of like are raised our generation like [TS]

  most before us for raised to think about [TS]

  like what like the stock of like you go [TS]

  to marry well you gotta marry expressing [TS]

  right you think she's trying to make a [TS]

  new baby [TS]

  mm-maybe so I mean you know there's [TS]

  nobody wants to do when she just down to [TS]

  clown with athletes or was she looking [TS]

  for something more long-term was like [TS]

  she wanted offspring that could throw a [TS]

  spiral I don't know I you know when you [TS]

  think about athletes on the lives [TS]

  they lead and particularly like [TS]

  successful ones and the sort of what [TS]

  would seem to be like the relationship [TS]

  between athletes and their why you don't [TS]

  talk about male athletes and their wives [TS]

  telling typically it you know it all [TS]

  kind of falls into a pattern like the [TS]

  baseball stadium with the live section [TS]

  kind of pans over there and you're like [TS]

  oh I see it's a kind of baseball wife [TS]

  job almost I don't got none of it I [TS]

  don't know anything about it I don't [TS]

  look at it and see anything that [TS]

  resembles anything that i know so i have [TS]

  to just put it into a category of like I [TS]

  don't know what it's like to be a bass [TS]

  player baseball player [TS]

  yeah I don't know what it's like to be [TS]

  married to a baseball player and I [TS]

  really don't know what it's like to be a [TS]

  retired baseball player who's living in [TS]

  a house in Florida has to be yeah and [TS]

  it's got a really big atrium or like it [TS]

  that you walk into the entrance hall and [TS]

  its really tall there's a staircase that [TS]

  kind of curves around and there's maybe [TS]

  a table with some sort of statue [TS]

  oh yeah I can see that in the instance [TS]

  foyer yeah the four year and it's not [TS]

  quite a statue of a of a of a guy love [TS]

  like her [TS]

  Hercules rat was holding the world and [TS]

  the world has neon sign on it that says [TS]

  the world is yours not quite that but it [TS]

  is some cuts that you probably don't [TS]

  have a study with your awards in it you [TS]

  got some photographs of hank aaron [TS]

  McMansion any kind of oh yeah yanno [TS]

  McMansion mm which are think our [TS]

  three-car Garage probably get 35 the [TS]

  cargo you do you get a boat you get a [TS]

  fucking boat you get a boat or in the [TS]

  case of john travolta you get your own [TS]

  727 437 every have you seen his house [TS]

  that seems very costly he bought a house [TS]

  all he bought one of those because they [TS]

  are housing developments for pilots we [TS]

  wear these when I was in junior high [TS]

  there's no area where you could land [TS]

  your plane on this little strip and [TS]

  drive it down the road to your house [TS]

  where you can put in your own playing [TS]

  garage [TS]

  that's right dang i think they call it [TS]

  at play garage and a [TS]

  so John Travolta has one of these [TS]

  massive compound where he can park his [TS]

  own like proper sized jet I don't know [TS]

  which model of Boeing jet he has but [TS]

  it's a let's see here i think i can [TS]

  google that for you [TS]

  he's so-so from from from the air you [TS]

  can eat you just fly over and it's like [TS]

  a giant McMansion and it's got his plane [TS]

  parked out front his jumbo jet about it [TS]

  it's not a jumbo but it's like that's it [TS]

  that's a that's a consumer passenger jet [TS]

  its okay its path it's meant to have [TS]

  probably over 200 people on it right [TS]

  with the 707 so he's getting so it's a [TS]

  vintage he's got a vintage jet and I bet [TS]

  that my pal whose job it is to outfit a [TS]

  super you know boeing business jet with [TS]

  cool interiors with hot tubs and stuff [TS]

  hmm i bet you he's done voltage at night [TS]

  but it's very nice in there i have a [TS]

  friend whom you've met who has been a [TS]

  handler for visiting celebrities and [TS]

  luminaries and she has got some goddamn [TS]

  stories about John Travolta none of [TS]

  which i will share on the air except to [TS]

  say I bet the lot of interesting stuff [TS]

  happens on this point predators she had [TS]

  a lot of first first hand [TS]

  super-creepy travel to information [TS]

  allegedly what I want to hear this [TS]

  offline i had a friend whose job it was [TS]

  to fill up drew barrymore's ipod wow did [TS]

  he look at craigslist kind of thing how [TS]

  to get any good job like that [TS]

  well you know she's music supervisor and [TS]

  you know I knew a lot about cool music [TS]

  and worked in bars and clubs it was a [TS]

  booker you know there's that there's [TS]

  that class of people in the rock [TS]

  business who I have all been booking [TS]

  agents club a club managers music [TS]

  supervisor insiders they know you DJ not [TS]

  having one specific title they know how [TS]

  things go [TS]

  they know how things work they know how [TS]

  to keep the lines right they know how [TS]

  they know how things work and then [TS]

  within that they they keep up right like [TS]

  that when they were in college it was [TS]

  really easy they were just part of the [TS]

  college radio station they brought bands [TS]

  to their school [TS]

  they were really really into music [TS]

  because they and you were this guy you [TS]

  just loved music and you stay but it [TS]

  definitely stopped and then at a certain [TS]

  point it stops but the only probably [TS]

  about 10 years ago i'm like you're very [TS]

  current I was just looking at my friend [TS]

  and you know anybody out andy bailey [TS]

  said this website called up coming down [TS]

  to work we could go and say what shows [TS]

  you're going to and stuff like that it [TS]

  was way too like a social media site for [TS]

  you know live events like shows [TS]

  oh my god I can't believe how much stuff [TS]

  I used to do em even though I'm just [TS]

  saying like up until pretty much well [TS]

  you can guess when it ended 1260 shoot [TS]

  six rows a week [TS]

  I mean I don't know if we went to one a [TS]

  week but i think we definitely got 25 a [TS]

  month at least I mean there's a lot of [TS]

  nights we were in a multiple multiple [TS]

  nights a week getting you guys like to [TS]

  party you stayed upright until the bar [TS]

  and we would go rock and roll but yet [TS]

  but I'm John seems like you don't like [TS]

  what you're describing here is that at a [TS]

  point you can just atmospherically stay [TS]

  up-to-date just by being young but it is [TS]

  an effort to keep up after that you [TS]

  don't really want it you gotta keep up [TS]

  and also like like a lot of things your [TS]

  knowledge has an expiration date on [TS]

  bright like like it used to be used to [TS]

  think that this was the moment this was [TS]

  the mistake I used to make a lot which [TS]

  was that he was always want to know [TS]

  about your ability to detect 1956 Les [TS]

  Paul that's exactly right [TS]

  people are always going to care about [TS]

  first editions or they're always going [TS]

  to care about vintage glasses or they're [TS]

  always going to care about something [TS]

  that I care about and then you realize [TS]

  like Oh everybody in 1994 really cared [TS]

  about vintage classes because that was [TS]

  what we were doing but now warby parker [TS]

  makes any kind of glasses that you want [TS]

  they all look like vintage classes and [TS]

  their hundred dollars each and go fuck [TS]

  yourself you know like nobody cares that [TS]

  i'm walking around in a pair of 1959 [TS]

  fashion like he's saying you seem like [TS]

  basically the status like a beer can [TS]

  collect at this point exactly that's [TS]

  garbage right I got 40 cans of Billy [TS]

  beer ninety thousand dollars for him in [TS]

  1986 gonna get them again [TS]

  I feel like what's Billy beer whatever a [TS]

  what's Billy bears hardest beard again [TS]

  nobody cares man so uh so yeah like [TS]

  that's that's that it with music [TS]

  supervisors if you stop if you stop for [TS]

  a second [TS]

  you're completely irrelevant like three [TS]

  months later but so there are Hollywood [TS]

  people who want to be and I think drew [TS]

  Barrymore is probably not one of these [TS]

  people now but she was 10 years ago but [TS]

  their Hollywood people who are like I if [TS]

  I roll up on some place and I had my [TS]

  ipod over and say play some you know [TS]

  play some random selections from this [TS]

  while I'm in the club you want that [TS]

  music to be like right on the bleeding [TS]

  edge and if your Hollywood actor you [TS]

  probably can't keep that current so you [TS]

  hire somebody to be your social media [TS]

  consult or I'm sorry about your social [TS]

  media but you're going to be like your [TS]

  personal music supervisor supervisor [TS]

  they're probably also put movies on [TS]

  their you know Paul Allen has like six [TS]

  librarians why he has he has an entire [TS]

  library staff and i am actually pretty [TS]

  close to one of his librarians and she [TS]

  has been his librarian or over a decade [TS]

  and she flies around the world so that [TS]

  it's like Paul is going to be at Lake [TS]

  Como on Tuesday she needs to fly there [TS]

  on saturday and make sure that all of [TS]

  the media in his library at Lake Como is [TS]

  what he wants what he's into right now I [TS]

  get it I get it so that when he gets [TS]

  there but it also has to be somewhat [TS]

  comprehensive so if he says he gets a [TS]

  wild hair and decides that he wants like [TS]

  once and future king there better be a [TS]

  copy there may be a copy that right [TS]

  exactly like if he if he says like I you [TS]

  know I want to hear a ray charles play [TS]

  the want to see he hit somebody better [TS]

  be able to get that to him right away [TS]

  that but so you know she's there in his [TS]

  house curating his collection making [TS]

  sure his library both digital and really [TS]

  and real-world are all like [TS]

  sorted uh-huh but and she's been doing [TS]

  this for over a decade but she claims [TS]

  only two have met him personally like [TS]

  two times but she has a sense of his [TS]

  taste [TS]

  yeah she's his librarian or one of the [TS]

  very one meter having not met him it [TS]

  wasn't like she was going out in college [TS]

  or something she just she just knows [TS]

  yeah she's she knows him she's you know [TS]

  she's part of his hive mind like Paul [TS]

  Allen is at the center of it and he has [TS]

  a thousand people around him that [TS]

  function as extensions of his mind and [TS]

  imagination but like she's only met him [TS]

  in receiving lines basically where he [TS]

  walks through his Vulcan and shake [TS]

  everybody's hand but she's in his office [TS]

  30 minutes before he arrives like and [TS]

  she's not she's not the one that's like [TS]

  refreshing the white lilies she's up [TS]

  digitally you know she's like she's in [TS]

  the matrix seeing all the all the [TS]

  material [TS]

  uh-huh and that's a crazy job you know [TS]

  hundreds particularly since Poland is [TS]

  renowned for firing everybody that's [TS]

  close to him and she is like insulated [TS]

  by one level person so he is so Paul [TS]

  Allen's Chief Librarian there have been [TS]

  15 of them because he fires them the [TS]

  child is she's his media librarian or [TS]

  his you know she's the one that actually [TS]

  is doing some library in this some you [TS]

  know she's not administering she is [TS]

  functioning as a library she does she's [TS]

  a practitioner she's not just [TS]

  implementing yeah so she is a so she's [TS]

  somewhat insulated because if he comes [TS]

  in and once and future king isn't there [TS]

  he fires the administrator and she's [TS]

  just like I actually had it I had it [TS]

  here the administrator just told me not [TS]

  to you know not to put our dogs from his [TS]

  ipad advisor could explain a little bit [TS]

  why you left your last position on you [TS]

  know you know James on guard at the [TS]

  octopus which we were you know 60 miles [TS]

  of the Amazon making Peter Gabriel [TS]

  record [TS]

  and he wanted to be said I want to watch [TS]

  Zardoz wasn't there no way to get that [TS]

  that was abrupt em [TS]